A plane carrying 7 members of Congress makes an emergency landing in New Orleans. Willie Nelson cancels an interview with Dennis Kucinich. Ron Paul and 7 other congressmen make it back to Washington, D.C.
00:00:27.000I would have loved to have given people a chance to tell their friends, family, neighbors to tune in.
00:00:35.000But I said last Friday I was going to call Willie Nelson over the weekend.
00:00:40.000And try to get him on as a guest this week to speak out against an attack on Iran and of course to support Congressman Dennis Kucinich and his co-sponsors who this Friday are going to be before the House Judiciary Committee bringing forward evidence of the crimes of George W. Bush.
00:01:25.000So I have that when I don't even have time to prepare for this, because I literally called Nelson about 45 minutes ago.
00:01:30.000I was in the middle of getting ready for the normal show, trying to set him up Thursday, Friday, or next week, and he said, well, today's better.
00:01:37.000So Willie Nelson will be on with us from the tour bus coming up in about five minutes.
00:01:49.000Remember with Payne Stewart in 2000, the famous golfer, the aircraft, the Learjet depressurized, all aboard were killed.
00:01:58.000It's a high mortality rate when this happens.
00:02:01.000This happened with the congressman and seven other congressmen out of Texas when they took off from Houston and then had to do an emergency landing.
00:02:11.000Ron Paul was scheduled to be on tomorrow.
00:02:15.000I wonder if this little snafu will get in the way of that, to be talking about the Iran war, what's happening with the economy, and a lot more.
00:02:22.000But Congressman Ron Paul is scheduled tomorrow.
00:02:24.000We're also lining up Dennis Kucinich tomorrow or Friday.
00:02:30.000We don't like to announce these big guests until we pretty much introduce them onto the show for you to ensure that that happens, but a lot of important information as we continue to track things here for you.
00:02:40.000Trey, my producer, has landed another gigantic guest for two weeks from now, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
00:03:05.000Houston, a Continental Airlines flight carrying seven members of Congress from Houston to Washington was forced to make an emergency landing after it lost cabin pressure.
00:03:14.000Yesterday afternoon, Flight 458 was bound for Reagan National Airport.
00:03:19.000It was diverted and landed safely in New Orleans, a spokesman for Representative Ted Poe told 11 News.
00:03:25.000Poe and fellow congressmen Nick Lapson, Ron Paul, John Carter, Ciro Rodriguez, Solomon Ortiz, and Henry Culliar were aboard the flight, said Poe's press secretary.
00:03:38.000Ironically, the seven congressmen were trying to get back in time for a Tuesday night vote on an aviation safety bill.
00:03:45.000A spokesman for one of the representatives said there were 118 people total aboard the plane.
00:03:52.000Alright, I'm going to take you out with a little 10-minute report that's up on Infowars.com of Dennis Kucinich eloquently asking you for support for his impeachment move, which definitely puts his life in danger.
00:04:04.000Let's go ahead and go out to break with Congressman Dennis Kucinich.
00:04:08.000I want to thank you for the support which you have given to my efforts to hold this administration accountable for taking us into a war based on lies and for the destruction of the rule of law and the destruction of cherished constitutional principles.
00:04:27.000Because of your support, this Friday in Washington, D.C., I will make a presentation before the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives, at which time I will make the case that this President has violated his oath of office, violated United States law and international law, has separated
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00:09:33.000The White House, Pat Robertson, even a lot of Democrats are saying Iran is going to get a nuclear weapon that they've sworn to attack Iran.
00:09:43.000The White House has told Israel, go ahead and attack, and that if Iran fights back in any way, that nuclear weapons may be used against them.
00:09:54.000Every major oil company and different brokerage house predicts that gas prices will at least double, probably triple.
00:10:01.000That will assuredly send us into a depression.
00:10:04.000But Pat Robertson and others, I have a clip of them, say that doesn't matter, we have to go ahead and attack Iran.
00:10:10.000There is a gentleman named Dennis Kucinich, congressman, who's been on with us the last few weeks and will be coming on later this week, who Friday will boldly be before the House Judiciary Committee bringing forward evidence of crimes and lies by the Bush administration.
00:10:29.000to try to get the committee to vote to bring impeachment to the full house, to the floor.
00:10:34.000Then if the House votes for it, that is an indictment.
00:10:37.000The House acts as the grand jury, then it goes to the Senate as a trial.
00:10:42.000The crimes of the Bush administration dwarf probably by 10,000 times, and I mean that literally, the crimes of Richard Milhouse Nixon.
00:10:55.000We must bring impeachment charges, because if we don't, they are going to have the political capital to fail forward and start World War III.
00:11:06.000Joining us is Willie Nelson for the rest of the hour.
00:11:10.000Later in the hour we'll be taking your phone calls specifically on impeachment and on the Iran situation.
00:11:17.000The inside scoop from Congressman Ron Paul, people inside the CIA and others, is an attack in October, September or October, probably in September, as an October surprise for the election.
00:11:28.000And I'm just very honored to have Willie Nelson joining us from Council Bluff, Iowa, where he's going to be playing tonight.
00:12:39.000But I just look at the courage of Dennis Kucinich, definitely putting his life in Well, first of all, Dennis Kucinich is a great friend of mine and I've supported him ever since I've known him.
00:12:53.000impeachment and find out if you're supporting him, and if so, why?
00:12:57.000Well, first of all, Dennis Kucinich is a great friend of mine, and I've supported him ever since I've known him.
00:13:06.000I've always admired the way that he stood up for the little guy and told it like it is, and to hell with the consequences. .
00:13:18.000You've got to admire a man that has that kind of nerve.
00:13:21.000I wrote the song you just played a while ago, Whatever Happened to Peace on Earth.
00:13:28.000I wrote that for Dennis Kucinich's campaign.
00:13:32.000It pretty much tells where we are today.
00:13:39.000These days, there has to be a price tag on it or else we wouldn't be going around the world killing people overall.
00:13:45.000I love the way Dennis is handling the impeachment thing.
00:13:51.000I think he's got, what, 54 impeachment charges against George and there's probably another 54 laying around out there if he wants to go get them.
00:14:05.000Instead of Congress didn't act, he would add more, and he has.
00:14:09.000He did pressure them, the Democratic Congress that was supposedly elected to punish Bush's crimes and end the war, now becoming very transparent that they're in the same military-industrial complex, hip pocket of those special interests.
00:14:23.000But he was able to get the Judiciary Committee to hear his charges coming up this Friday, and I just wanted to put the call out For everybody to call the House Judiciary Committee and to call all of your members of Congress and tell them, look, it's admitted that the wiretapping of U.S.
00:14:42.000citizens without warrants each counts a felony.
00:14:45.000It's admitted that lying about WMDs in Iraq, and it's come out, we have the White House documents that they knew they were lying, those are felonies.
00:14:54.000Willie, give us your sense on all these crimes that have been committed by the White House and why you're supporting impeachment.
00:15:07.000Okay, uh... Uh, what... The main thing that bothers me, I think, is the fact that, uh, anyone in this country can get by with murder, uh, if they happen to be the President of the United States, have, uh, all of the government behind them.
00:16:27.000You know, the guy's going to be out of office in a while, and I'm sure there's a lot of people who are going to follow him around and try to charge him with all kinds of things, even after he leaves office.
00:16:35.000But the point that you brought out, the fact that we're so close to a war with Iran, and that anything this guy does between now and Election Day could spark it, I think an impeachment hearing between now and then might slow the guy down.
00:16:52.000It might get the attention of the world and us on Trying to stop a guy who's really intent on starting a war.
00:17:33.000Now you were right, that is the second article of impeachment is falsely, systematically, and with criminal intent, conflating the attacks of September 11th with A mispresentation of Iraq as a security threat, as part of a fraudulent justification for the war of aggression.
00:17:52.000And we now have the memos, the White House memos and others, where they knew Iraq had nothing to do with it.
00:17:58.000Of course, they knew that from day one, being the authors of the attacks, the 9-11 attacks.
00:18:01.000But that they were going to go out and sell the public on this, and now, conservatively, there's a million dead Iraqis because of this.
00:18:08.000I mean, this is Nazi-level, World War II-level crimes.
00:18:53.000You've got to bring in the guys pulling the strings.
00:18:55.000And that's going to be harder to do because it looks like the closer we get to impeachment, all of the guys out there pulling the strings are ready to throw George under the bus and let him ride all the heat.
00:19:07.000But I don't think that's That's enough.
00:19:10.000I think we have to go further than that and dig deeper and go back and find out who all is involved here and make them all come to step up to the bar and tell us why they did what they did.
00:19:23.000I'm going to skip this break for the folks watching on PrisonPlanet.tv and for the radio folks out there, and then we're going to go to break at the bottom of the hour and come back and take some phone calls.
00:19:36.000I really cannot overstate how much courage that Congressman Dennis Kucinich has, and we all need to be praying for him and supporting him and demanding, not just that Congress support impeachment, but that the media pay attention to what's happening.
00:19:57.000Willie, I mean, that's another big area here.
00:20:00.000Our press wasn't perfect back in the 70s, back in 73, 74, but at least they did cover the investigation and the movement towards impeachment with Richard Nixon.
00:20:09.000I think that's the missing link here, is that the media, you're seeing almost no coverage of what Congressman Kucinich and all of his co-sponsors are doing.
00:20:20.000Well, yeah, that's another problem that we have, is getting the message across, because the media people seem to be happy just telling the other side.
00:20:47.000Not all the media is laying down, rolling over, and there's a lot of good people in radio that are speaking out and a lot of people on the internet.
00:20:58.000I think we have more ways to fight back today than we did 50 years ago.
00:21:04.000So I think with you doing what you're doing and all the other guys chipping in, every little bit helps.
00:21:11.000And if we keep pointing out what's going on, And if we keep putting cameras on them, if we keep telling people what they're doing, maybe we can stop them from doing something really bad between now and election day.
00:21:24.000Well that's my point, and the point that you and many others have made, is that there is this incredible danger, if they've got the will to orchestrate a 9-11 style attack, if they have the will to carry out all these chemical and biological and radiological tests on the people, Or the will to ship in these dangerous narcotics for our school children, and then run the phony war against it.
00:21:46.000They're capable of doing anything, and you're right, we can't just remove the puppets.
00:21:50.000We have to, once and for all, smoke the dark spiders, the corporate chieftains, out of their holes that have been engineering all this.
00:21:59.000You're absolutely right, and I think Dennis is taking a giant step forward in giving that a chance to happen.
00:22:09.000Every time he steps up there and reads another article of impeachment.
00:22:13.000We're going to come back, because right now we're behind the scenes for folks on the internet.
00:22:16.000We're going to be back in about a minute and a half to the full audience, Willie, and I want to get back into what's happening with Iran and Iraq and get your take on that.
00:22:24.000But shifting gears into the economy, you know, you've been involved with Farm Aid and so much more, aware of how this international bank, central banks, operate.
00:22:33.000We've got the IMF and World Bank documents where they admit they are engineering Well, I can see where they've done it with the farmers.
00:22:39.000consolidate wealth and basically repossess America, come in and buy all of our companies, Anheuser-Busch, real estate, car companies.
00:22:47.000Willie Nelson, what's your take on that?
00:22:50.000What's happening right now with the economy?
00:22:51.000Well, I can see where they've done it with the farmers.
00:22:55.000We used to have 8 million small family farmers out there, and through various techniques, illegal and whatever, they have taken back over 6 million of those small family farms, and they've done it by doing exactly what you said.
00:23:11.000They dropped the prices on everything, putting farmers out of business all over the world, just so they can pick up the land and use it to their advantage.
00:23:20.000The big corporations want to do it all.
00:23:22.000They want to put all the small family farmers out of business, and I still think that this whole thing, our entire economy that agriculture is the bottom rung on our economic ladder and the farmer is our backbone of that economic ladder.
00:23:39.000So we have to bring the farmer back, the small family farmer.
00:23:42.000We have to start thinking locally sustainable agriculture.
00:23:46.000Take away our needs for importing, like T-Bone Pickens said, $700 billion worth of oil every year from foreign countries.
00:23:58.000We could be making it ourselves out of wind, solar, biodiesel, ethanol.
00:24:27.000And when the war is over and we've won it, let's remember how we done it so we don't have to do it again.
00:24:42.000You know, I love rodeos, and I go to four or five a year, and it's great to go to a rodeo where Willie Nelson's playing, because instead of having a bunch of pro-war propaganda wrapping the flag, you get a real patriot, a real Texan who really loves liberty.
00:24:57.000And to see tens of thousands of people at the Austin Rodeo, Star of Texas Rodeo, sing along to that, instead of going to, say, the Teague Rodeo with my family, where my family's from out in East Texas, and I mean, we're talking 20 minutes of government worshipping, war worshipping,
00:25:13.000Stuff, but it was totally hollow and nobody was even buying into it There and we're back live with Willie Nelson take your calls in the next segment and also later before he leaves us Get some into his solutions with agriculture and trying to save the family farm because his farm aid This year is coming up as well and give out some of his websites for you again Willie It's just wonderful and precious to be having this time with you.
00:25:41.000Jesse Ventura, since you last came on the show and went public for 9-11 Truth, Jesse Ventura came on the show and then told me behind the scenes, he goes, look, I want to come out for 9-11 Truth.
00:25:51.000You gave me films years ago when I was in Texas visiting with Willie Nelson and Kinky Friedman.
00:25:56.000When I saw him at an event, he said, but now I've looked into it.
00:26:28.000We do know that there are some strong people in this country and around the world who will stand up for what's right, and it's always gratifying to see a guy jump up and say what he thinks, to stand up for what he believes is right.
00:26:41.000I can see more and more people doing that these days, and it is very gratifying.
00:26:47.000I don't think that the ring knockers, the establishment individuals thought that we would have this much courage or that this many prominent people like Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and so many others, Martin Sheen, right before he died, George Carlin.
00:27:12.000I mean, I know I'm kind of in awe here.
00:27:15.000It's just we have to realize how positive it is that there are a lot of good Americans and others standing up.
00:27:22.000Well, yeah, and when you look at it for what it is, it's no big deal.
00:27:26.000It's somebody did something wrong and somebody needs to be outed for it.
00:27:31.000And once you look at all the facts and see the pictures and And you hear all the stories, it doesn't take a German scientist to realize that, hey, we got hit by some inside people there.
00:27:46.000And we need to find out quickly so it doesn't happen again.
00:27:50.000Yeah, I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh, it's so horrible, but just, I mean, it's so obvious, it's so simple, and you're saying the emperor has no clothes, and more and more people are saying it.
00:28:00.000Willie, what has the response been like, since you came on my radio show twice, and then on, of course, Free Speech TV and Democracy Now!, and, you know, questioned the official fable, what has the response been like from your fans, from your supporters, and your detractors?
00:28:14.000Ninety-nine percent in favor of what we've been saying, and a hundred percent of ours believing that we have the right to say it.
00:28:23.000There's nobody that said, hey, shut up.
00:28:29.000There's been a couple that didn't quite believe it and couldn't believe that we could do something like that, but I think the more we find out about what we are capable of doing and what we have done in the last couple hundred years, it's no stretch of the imagination to see that, hey, you know, we did this, we did that, of course we can do the Trey Tower, it's no big deal.
00:28:53.000In fact, if you look at the British manuals on how to spread smallpox to the natives by giving them... That's not a rumor, folks.
00:29:00.000We have the manuals that then was taught to the colonists who did it.
00:29:04.000Or then when you look at the Tuskegee Experiment, or all the things that are still going on, or all these neocon warmongers, Well, no, you can't.
00:29:30.000But in the meantime, a lot of people are dying and suffering, and that's why I think it's so urgent that Dennis Kucinich keeps doing what he's doing, keep hitting them on that sore spot.
00:29:45.000If he keeps dropping water on that sucker, eventually it'll crash through and we'll find out the truth of what really happened.
00:29:52.000But I think Dennis has got to keep pounding on impeachment.
00:29:55.000I think that's the key to stopping anything really horrible coming up between now and, as you say, September, October.
00:30:04.000Just a moment ago we went... Willie, this is kind of a split show now because I've also got hundreds of thousands viewing on the internet and tens of thousands watching on television.
00:30:25.000We're going to be taking calls when we get back into the main segment at 1-800-259-9231.
00:30:31.000Again, Willie, getting back to the fact that the people are rising up, that has now cornered the rats that staged the attacks, and I'm trying to figure out their psychology and what they're going to do.
00:30:45.000And most of the experts I talk to, Ron Paul, Ray McGovern, so many other people, Dennis Kucinich, people inside.
00:30:53.000Ron Paul said last week before the House, he said, look, the shoe's going to be dropped in the fall.
00:30:58.000They're intending to go ahead and start World War III.
00:31:02.000And I guess try to bring us into martial law.
00:31:04.000And we're here, I guess just with genuine communal horror, wanting to stop it.
00:31:15.000I guess we need to ask everybody who's prominent and has large followings to speak up.
00:31:19.000What are some of the other ideas you have, Willie, to try to turn this around right now?
00:31:26.000The only thing we can do is just to keep our words and thoughts out there in the atmosphere, and let people around the world know what we're thinking, and let's be open-minded of what they're thinking, and let's put our heads together and come up with ways to stop it, because, you know, we are smart enough to do it.
00:31:46.000We can figure, we do know, we're standing here today telling everyone what we think is going to happen.
00:31:56.000I think we elect a guy who is thinking about peace rather than war.
00:32:06.000We have to become a department of peace and we have to spread peace around the world instead of going around the world starting wars over all.
00:32:17.000Well, you're absolutely right, Willie, and it's not just starting wars about oil.
00:32:20.000It's also about, as you know, the hundreds of billions of dollars per year in no-bid contracts going into black holes, and it's the silencing political opposition at home.
00:32:30.000And that's what in his consent list, in his articles of impeachment, how the president, they have policy reports saying, how do we shut down demonstrations?
00:32:42.000How do we train local police to shut down free speech?
00:32:45.000So I want to come back to the full audience in about ten seconds and pose that question to you, and then to the audience, what their ideas of stopping all of this.
00:34:57.000They're going to do it again, but the Iranians are not a pushover.
00:35:00.000They're $65 million instead of $23 million.
00:35:03.000They've got more high-tech weapons, and they're going to block the Strait of Hormuz, and Bush has moved the aircraft carriers in close so they can be hit.
00:35:19.000They want a war to bring us into a depression, to fully consolidate what's left of the free market, and bring us into total tyranny.
00:35:28.000Now, I've had top analysts on Scores of them the last two weeks all agreeing that is the attack profile of the New World Order and the puppeteers controlling George Bush and his cronies and they own the Democrats as well.
00:35:42.000And this may have been an attempt on Ron Paul's life with him and seven congressmen and sudden total depressurization.
00:35:49.000They barely got the plane down when it took off from Houston last night and we know they've killed a lot of congressmen and senators.
00:35:55.000We've got to be praying for Dennis Kucinich.
00:35:58.000Before we go back to your calls, and again folks, I want to hear your ideas for solutions, how we can stop this war, what type of stunts can we pull that are peaceful, banner hangs, whatever, calling into Congress.
00:36:11.000Here's the number to the White House, I mean to the House switchboard.
00:36:54.000And by talking about how these murderers kill people, that may preempt them from going after Kucinich.
00:37:00.000And I've talked to him on air, he said a few weeks ago he knows he's in danger, he knows these people are serious, but he says He says this is a spiritual thing.
00:37:08.000He says he's crossing that line and that he's doing the right thing and putting his trust in the Creator.
00:37:12.000I've never heard Kucinich talk like that, so, I mean, you know he's at a high level there.
00:37:17.000When you start fighting evil at these high levels, because I've done it myself, not at that level, but I've, it's a line you cross.
00:37:23.000I hate to get mystic here, but Willie, I mean, do you know what I'm talking about here?
00:37:27.000Well, yeah, there is that line that I think, you know, you and I We not only crossed it, we leaped over it a while back.
00:38:05.000And we just need to realize and really pray for and just in our core, in our spirit, know that Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul and others are really facing the Dragon down at point blank range and need our support.
00:38:20.000And so does Willie and everybody else that's out there speaking out.
00:38:24.000Willie, before we go to some calls, and again the number is 1-800-259-9231, I want to hear your ideas for solutions or ways to stop this war.
00:38:33.000Willie, any other ideas you've got to try to stop this attack on Iran?
00:38:40.000Well, first of all, I think impeachment is good.
00:38:42.000We have to do that to get people to realize, hey, these guys are bad and we have to stop them before they do.
00:38:49.000And they're thinking that we won't do it.
00:38:52.000They're thinking that they have plenty of time between now and election day to do what they already have planned to do.
00:38:59.000Whether we can stop them or not, I don't know.
00:39:03.000God help us if we can't, because Once we bomb Iran, then all hell breaks loose.
00:39:13.000America is not the same America as we knew it the second afterwards.
00:39:19.000And not only that, we will bring down hardships not only in ourselves, but people all over the world.
00:39:26.000Not to mention just the price of a gallon of gas.
00:39:36.000Well, you're absolutely right, and for those who don't understand the globalist mindset, it's problem, reaction, solution, or order out of chaos, as Bush has said in speeches.
00:39:45.000And they believe by getting us into a crisis so bad, where our military is being defeated, And that's probably going to happen in the first stages, just like they invited the Japanese attack and ordered the ships and planes to stand down, and that's now been declassified.
00:40:00.000They plan to get us into a war that's so bad that a lot of Americans are going to say, well, I didn't support the war, but dammit, we're in a crisis and I've got to get behind George Bush, and then he may end up being like FDR and just staying in office.
00:40:13.000And I think that is a One of the things that's being stolen most out there these days is gasoline.
00:40:20.000analysts are talking about eight ten dollar uh gallon gas martial law in america and they've now put that on the books well yeah you know now one of the uh one of the things that's being stolen most out there these days is gasoline farmers have to watch their tractors people are stealing gasoline because it is so damn expensive and they uh it's down to push and shove they need a gallon the gas to get from here to there
00:40:49.000and at some point people will do anything uh and when it comes down to food uh that's the next thing on the list they'll do anything to feed their family so we are in for some tough times and And then we have to try to somehow educate the public that they have orchestrated this.
00:41:06.000I mean, I have the banking documents, you have them, you've been fighting this since before I was born, where the banks, well you grew up, you know, with your family being farmers on a farm in Texas, pretty close to where my family's from, on my dad's side, and everybody knew back then they were predatory.
00:41:21.000How did they train Americans not to question the establishment and not to question banks?
00:41:26.000I mean, when did Americans start losing their sense, Willie?
00:41:30.000Well, when they started controlling the media and when they started telling us from early morning until late and dark how well things were going and how things were fine and we shouldn't worry about a thing that, you know, Big Brother's taking care of us.
00:41:45.000And now we see what Big Brother was doing while we had our backs turned.
00:41:49.000He was taking over, stealing everything that we had.
00:41:53.000And now they know that we're waking up to them with Congress with a 9% approval rating for the first time in U.S.
00:41:58.000history, and so they're trying to put a police state into place so that we can't have a counter-revolution against their revolution.
00:42:08.000Willie, do you have any message to the people in government, to the police and others, about some of the things we're going to be facing in the near future?
00:42:16.000I mean, I've had state police calling in saying, I thought you were nuts, but now the feds have come in and told us, yeah, get ready for martial law and you've got to do what the president says.
00:42:25.000Do you have any message to them, Willie?
00:42:27.000Well, except that we have to just, you know, there's no magic words that I can say that will stop it, but I do think all of us together can figure out a way to combat it and keep it from being as bad as it could be.
00:42:42.000I think if we are aware of what's going to happen, that will Keep it from having such a great impact that it would if we were just sitting around blind, not knowing that anything was going to hit us.
00:42:53.000At least now we can try to block it one way or another.
00:42:58.000If you expose false flags, self-inflicted wounds, government-sponsored black ops, then it takes the power away to where they can't stage it anymore.
00:43:08.000And if you discredit the current system, then it loses the people's acquiescence.
00:43:13.000They have to have you to go along with it.
00:43:15.000It doesn't mean you have to go out and physically fight them with a rifle.
00:43:18.000It means you just have to not go along And basically, in a lot of cases, to the police and military, just sit on your butts.
00:43:24.000Don't go out and kill innocent Iraqis.
00:44:29.000And they can't blow up every congressman's airplane.
00:44:32.000The answer here is all of us to say, look, we know what you're up to, shadow government, and just come out with your hands up, attention criminals, the game is over.
00:45:25.000And a lot of people want to try to over-intellectualize it and say, well then what's the specific action?
00:45:29.000It's just getting your heart right, getting your mind right, and saying no.
00:45:35.000Yeah, from this moment on, you just have to say, okay, maybe I went along with their stories up until now, but I'm not going along with them anymore.
00:45:44.000You know, you've lied to me once, that's too many times.
00:46:02.000The first one, I want to tell you how grateful I am, Alex, for you advertising Shea Lazine.
00:46:08.000I feel like I'm 34 years old now, like you.
00:46:11.000And the most important point I want to make is any congressman that doesn't support or vote for impeachment for the ones that we're speaking of should be fired and put out of office.
00:46:27.000I mean, because they're very well aware of the same thing that we're aware of.
00:46:32.000It's come to the point that this is extremely serious.
00:46:36.000Well, just looking at this politically, it would gain the Democrats incredible political hay and ensure their victory across the board if they would do it, but they won't.
00:46:44.000That's because they're scared, they're blackmailed, or they're on the take.
00:47:13.000Willie, I've been a part of your life since 1973, from three days in Atoka to Austin to Panther Hall to the Sportatorium.
00:47:25.000Thanks for all the nights you've given us, and we really love you.
00:47:32.000I was born and raised here in Texas, and I'm going to be moving out of here next month, and I'm going to go north and go up into the mountains and see what happens.
00:47:42.000My heart's pretty sad right now, but that's what I'm going to do.
00:47:49.000I'm glad you remembered Atoka, because you remember how dusty that was.
00:48:07.000I was wondering if I was going to have trouble finding the location and the set, and I was driving down the interstate, and I looked over to the left, and a few miles over there, I saw this huge dust cloud.
00:48:17.000I said, oh, I think we've found a token.
00:48:23.000All right, Adam, good to hear from you.
00:48:24.000Scott in Arizona, you're on the air with Willie Nelson.
00:48:33.000You've done a lot of great concerts in your time, as far as live aid to support the farmers.
00:48:39.000I was thinking it would be great to do something like a 9-1-1 Troop concert, donate the money to the families that lost their loved ones, the firefighters that were out there, and also to support Dennis Kucinich.
00:48:52.000What he's doing and it would be great to do that and get a lot of publicity.
00:48:57.000I would agree to both of those things in a minute.
00:49:04.000Willie, I'm totally freaking out right now.
00:49:06.000You know, you gave me your cell phone number and other contacts and I haven't called you in five months because you're one of the few people I'm actually starstruck by and I was kind of nervous stumbling around calling you this morning to come on the show.
00:49:16.000I have been dreaming of inviting you to New York this year for the anniversary, getting some haul, just having you speak or play your acoustic guitar, and we know the first responders, the heads of the victims' family groups, or to even have a benefit here in Austin for the firefighters and police, but I know you're so busy and you've already done so much for 9-11 Truth, but since the caller brings it up, Maybe I should talk to you off-air later today about doing something like that.
00:49:46.000Because I think we're talking about solutions or a free concert somewhere as a media event to say a no attack on Iran, yes to impeachment deal.
00:49:57.000It'd probably be like Woodstock, Willie.
00:50:00.000I think you're right and I think people want to find a way to speak out and let their voices be heard and that's what you and I need to do is to give them a way to do that.
00:50:12.000We'll find a hall or a field or something somewhere and we'll go over there and we'll give people a chance to stand up and Talk about what they believe in.
00:50:22.000I just want to thank Scott, calling from Arizona, who I don't know from Adam, because I just, I just can't, I can't ever ask for things from the celebrities I know, just because I don't want to feel like I'm bugging them, but Willie gives so much, this is just incredible, for all the stations.
00:50:38.000Well thank you, and I want to say to Scott, before you take off to the mountains up there, hang around a little while, and watch all this stuff come down, and you know, if something happens really bad, I'll go to the mountains with you.
00:50:51.000but i think i must end here and i think that i would skip this break to here we go behind the scenes willy nelson willy uh...
00:51:00.000speak of the devil You know, you've got your great places out with the Perdonals and stuff.
00:51:05.000My wife's even instinctively saying, we've got to get a place out by Fredericksburg or Johnson City.
00:51:09.000Women always have that instinct, and she's never been like this.
00:51:14.000This morning, she's saying, we've got to go try to buy some land or a house.
00:51:17.000I want to get the hell out of this city.
00:51:19.000And all the women I know are talking like that.
00:51:22.000That always tells me something when the women think something really bad's coming.
00:51:44.000If you just lost your home and your job and you're out on the streets, you're in a depression.
00:51:50.000If it hadn't happened to you yet, Uh, God bless you because hang on, there's some bad things going on out there and hopefully it won't hit you, but we are in a depression.
00:52:00.000Uh, there's a lot of people suffering right now in this country and have been for a long time.
00:52:05.000And the fact that we're just now talking about a possible, uh, depression, uh, is, uh, it shouldn't let everybody know that, hey, we must be in one if we're talking about it.
00:52:17.000We're on air for the viewers on the internet right now, Willie, so we're not really behind the scenes, but when is a good time for me to call you to talk about this idea of doing some type of anti-war slash 9-11 truth?
00:52:35.000I mean, we've only got a few months, so obviously we want to set it up as quickly as possible.
00:52:40.000I mean, if you really want to do that, You know, whether we do it somewhere in upstate New York, because it's near New York, or whether we do it somewhere outside Austin.
00:52:49.000I mean, if you're really serious about wanting to, and I know you always step to the plate, if you really want to do that, we need to get on it.
00:52:56.000Well, yeah, and there's two or three things, two or three options there, and we need to figure out just exactly which one we want to do, where we want to do it, because you say, as you say, we're running out of time.
00:53:09.000We don't have too much time to figure out what we're going to do, but I'm ready to go to New York or Austin anytime.
00:53:16.000It might even be good to... Denver's totally booked up, but people do anything for Willie Nelson.
00:53:23.000I'm going to cover Denver and the microwave guns and the police state and the free speech zones.
00:53:27.000I'm also probably going to go to the RNC, but I've already booked for Denver.
00:53:31.000Maybe if we had some type of event in a field or somewhere, or someplace outside Denver or in Denver if we could, that might put...
00:53:42.000I'd heard you might be even playing in Denver in association with the DNC.
00:54:58.000Willie, we've only got about five minutes left in this segment and four minutes in the next and I'm going to let you go because you're very busy and have your own XM radio show coming up today.
00:55:06.000Before we take a few final calls and talk about the depression that we see unfolding and really hurting the farmers and ranchers more than ever, fire out some of the websites, your peace organization, some of the groups that people can get involved with you in to really try to be the change we want to see in the world.
00:55:24.000FarmAid.org is the big address for people.
00:55:29.000We're doing Farm Aid on September 20th up in Boston, and if we can call attention to that and bring as many people as we can to rally around us up there, that would be great.
00:55:42.000Well, my heart's beating, and few things excite me anymore, Willie, because I've seen quite a bit, not as much as you, but I've actually got butterflies.
00:55:51.000Did you get butterflies and excited when we just spontaneously, because of a caller, decided to do some type of truth rally?
00:56:00.000Well, you know, I'm always looking for excitement, and if it's doing something that I love to do and believe in, well, it doesn't get any better than that.
00:56:12.000I love to play music and I love audiences and crowds, but there's also something that's gratifying about saying what you believe.
00:56:24.000Again, Willie, I know you hate people telling you how great you are, but let me tell you, I just love you to death and love your courage and your passion and your spirit.
00:56:31.000You know, the time I got to meet you in person, it was really intense to be around you in person.
00:56:38.000You're just an amazing individual and I just wish to God we had more people like Willie Nelson.
00:56:44.000Give out the Peace Institute website as well.
00:56:50.000Willie Nelson, PRI.com, Peace Research Institute, and farmaid.org.
00:56:58.000Just stay in touch and let's put our heads together and see what we can do to get peace in the world and also in doing that we'll not only help the family farmer, we'll help everybody else.
00:57:14.000Dennis Kucinich going into the belly of the beast this Friday in the Judiciary Committee in the House presenting the crimes of the Bush administration.
00:57:22.000This is just unparalleled in history and there's almost no media coverage.
00:57:27.000Demand there be coverage of this and we salute Willie Nelson for stepping up to the plate today to come on the air and try to bring attention to this and no doubt it will.
00:57:40.000I've been a long time fan and I'm just kind of getting into the prison planet and everything that goes with it.
00:57:48.000Don't you guys think that the whole mess that this country and the world is in right now all has to revolve around energy?
00:57:59.000I think we need to make huge leaps for energy.
00:58:02.000I don't think these baby steps that we're taking, I really have a feeling that Otis T. Carr And Ralph Ring, and I don't know if you've heard of Gordon Novell, but I think they're on to something that all the governments of the world don't want us citizens to know about.
00:59:00.000Well I know you've always been standing up to the man.
00:59:02.000When is a good time for me, and again, I'm not going to even try to push you to how to set it up or what to do, I just want to somehow be involved and help you in any way, when should I call you, what tomorrow or something, or when's a good time for me to call you when you're on the bus, on the road, to try to get some idea of what we should do in New York or Austin?
00:59:25.000Why don't you do a little research yourself on Austin and New York, and I will too.
00:59:29.000We'll check my itinerary and call me tomorrow and we'll figure out something we can do.
01:01:00.000In the last three or four minutes we've got, sir, earlier you were trying to get into, when we went to break, energy dependence and systems to get off of it.
01:01:08.000They're demonizing ethanol, but that's from corn.
01:01:11.000You're talking about the cooking oil and trash and the pig farms and the chicken farms.
01:01:16.000You're talking about systems that use the waste we're just dumping in rivers right now to create cleaner burning fuels.
01:01:24.000In closing, Willie Nelson, that's a way to create a new economy as you have said as a visionary and you've got all the evidence to re-energize the family farm and try to save what we've got left and get us off of the oil.
01:01:41.000We have the resources, and I think the secret is to keep it local and sustainable.
01:01:47.000If you have something around you that farmers grow that you can use, use it.
01:01:53.000Anytime you import something, it costs more and it pollutes the environment.
01:01:57.000Anytime you can buy it locally, you're getting healthier food because you know where it's coming from.
01:02:03.000So I think the important thing for us to do is to make sure that we support our local Agriculture, our local economy, and not become dependent on bringing in everything from around the world.
01:02:14.000Because you look at your table where you ate breakfast this morning, and everything on your plate probably came from 12 to 1500 miles away.
01:02:25.000It could have been done outside your back door by farmers that you know.
01:02:29.000Now just 70 years ago, I would guess, growing up in North Central Texas, that everything on your plate every morning was from right there in the little town you grew up in.
01:02:37.000In Napa, Texas, we had our own chickens, and we had eggs, and we grew our own beef, and we had hogs out there that we grew, and we had a garden.
01:02:48.000So we pretty much were self-sufficient, and I think Probably out of necessity because of the high prices of everything.
01:02:56.000We're going to have to get back to that kind of living again.
01:03:00.000And honestly, I think it will be good for us to go back to the basics and be able to take care of ourselves without having to depend on somebody on the other side of the world.
01:04:21.000Willie, I am completely blown away by this interview, and I sense destiny here, something big, and I pray that this does happen, and we just appreciate all your time.
01:04:31.000I'll say bye to you off air here in just a moment, and I will talk to you in the morning, sir.
01:04:36.000You're going to be playing tonight in Council Bluff, Iowa.
01:04:40.000Is that sold out like most your shows, or can folks go to that?
01:04:44.000Well, I think it's a casino, so it's probably pretty well sold out.
01:04:49.000But if you're around here close, you might come over.
01:04:53.000But it's a small venue, so it's probably pretty well sold out.
01:04:58.000Alright folks, that is basically it with Willie Nelson.
01:05:02.000You can just Google Willie Nelson or go to WillieNelson.com and find out other tour dates.
01:05:07.000He is a man who needs to be supported as well as Congressman Dennis Kucinich.
01:05:11.000Again, Willie, just I love you to death and I want to thank you and your family for all your time and I will call you about 10 a.m.
01:08:26.000Getting major attention against the war, against attacking Iran.
01:08:30.000Boy, black ops are going to try to stop that.
01:08:32.000We have an amazing individual on air with us today he is William Pepper and I appreciate him rescheduling from last week as I wanted to do close to a full hour with him I mean if I tried to go over his bio this guy has seen it all another incredible guest and he is just a stalwart spending millions of his own money as a prominent lawyer to literally be a gumshoe for years tracking the murder of
01:08:58.000First MLK, then RFK, JFK, and he's got lawsuits in there right now to expose the MLK murder.
01:09:05.000He's in there exposing the Bobby killing, and he's just got the floor for the next hour.
01:09:09.000Whatever this man wants to impart to us, knowledge-wise, I'm just so honored to be able to talk to people like Mr. Pepper.
01:09:19.000I am so honored to be able to talk to people like Willie Nelson.
01:09:23.000We've got Mark Cornkey coming up, and St.
01:09:24.000John Hunt, the son of the CIA black op commander who ran the operation to kill Kennedy.
01:09:38.000Please, in a nutshell, you don't like to talk about yourself, but some people know who they're listening to, your depth and breadth of experience and knowledge.
01:09:46.000In a nutshell, tell us about your life, and then get into, of these three murders, we just had Bobby's murder anniversary last week, assassination last week, just whatever area you want to get into.
01:09:58.000Well, that's a pretty deep well, Alex.
01:10:04.000I guess I began Well, I grew up probably like you did, and many others, as a son of America.
01:10:14.000Hard-working, middle-class parents who had been immigrants from Ireland and infused with the blessings of this republic and the dream, came here, struggled, went to public schools, happened to be a baseball player.
01:10:35.000And that enabled me to take examination to private school and went into private school late in my secondary education.
01:10:47.000Then went on to Columbia on a scholarship and took two degrees there and played sports there.
01:10:54.000Went to Cuba in 59 with one other member of the Columbia baseball team to play in a sports festival.
01:11:01.000And, uh, these things started to open up one's eyes because the pictures, and I spent a fair amount of time with Castro and with Guevara as a young ball player and spoke the language, so I had an opportunity to learn a bit about what was really going on, what was behind that revolution, and why America had supported dictatorships for almost 60 years before the Castro revolution.
01:11:31.000So, what started as a 12-year-old who could only find black kids to play baseball with in the heat of the summer required me to go into the ghetto and see for the first time how those people lived and had raised questions in my mind about what was going on socio-economically in the society, then carried on through the Cuban experience and then eventually I went to London
01:11:58.000And met a number of developing world, potential developing world leaders who had different perspectives also on America.
01:12:08.000I was at LSE and that was where, of course, the Rockefellers sent David early on in order to understand a bit about the world.
01:12:27.000It was regarded as the place to go in terms of becoming aware of the world.
01:12:35.000But that led me into reform politics, thinking that perhaps one could manipulate a system and make it a little bit better.
01:12:46.000So I came back to the state, led a reform movement in Westchester County, New York, and became fairly, a very young guy, became fairly controversial.
01:12:56.000With that, then, Bob Kennedy asked me to run his campaign in Westchester, which was a heavily Republican county.
01:13:04.000And, um, and when he ran for the Senate in 1964, so I became his citizen's chairman.
01:13:10.000And, um, uh, at that, at that point in time, eventually, um, this led through, uh, one human rights positions, head of the Director, Director of the Commission on Human Rights for New Rochelle.
01:13:23.000It was called the Little Rock of the North.
01:13:25.000And the only way we could stop it from burning was to put bodies in the streets and around country clubs of people who were discriminating against blacks in terms of housing and education and certainly the skilled trade unions.
01:13:40.000The Electrical Workers Union still held their meetings in Italian in that city at that time.
01:14:53.000We were hit once going into a, um, uh, into play coup, uh, C-130 on the way in, uh, and had a rough landing and I hurt my back and had to go back into Saigon.
01:15:05.000And, uh, first time I'd come out of the country and I was, um, bit, um, I, I just angry.
01:15:13.000Uh, some friends took me to a, uh, a party and, uh, uh, Vietnamese, uh, she'll attached herself to me.
01:15:21.000uh... that evening and drew from me what i really was feeling and seeing out there and next morning i was uh... summoned into uh... into the crediting officers uh... office commander madison uh... told me that he thought that uh... they were worried about me and i could lose my life out there i was wasn't attending their briefings and so i got i should probably go on home i'd probably uh... probably got hurt my back anyway and
01:15:49.000And I told him I gathered, they were uncomfortable with my presence, but I wanted to go into a place called Tainan before I left.
01:15:59.000And he said, what do you want to go to Tainan for?
01:17:19.000He almost threw up at the Atlanta airport on his way to the Caribbean when he thumbed through it and he saw the photographs that I published.
01:17:28.000And when he got back, he asked to meet with me.
01:17:32.000And that, of course, started a relationship the last year of his life.
01:17:37.000I had been in the South in civil rights work at various times in the 60s and And on the Selma March and events like that.
01:18:22.000You could, I mean, Martin Luther King believed what he was saying and was a very deep man, was he not?
01:18:28.000oh yeah there's there's no question about it I committed the last year of his life to working with him.
01:18:35.000He asked me to head the National Conference for New Politics, which was an umbrella organization to go over all of the peace and poverty groups and potentially mobilize for a third-party ticket of himself and Ben Spock.
01:19:07.000And when he was speaking, I was passed a note that said, you better get him out of here as soon as he finishes speaking or we're going to take him hostage and embarrass him before the world.
01:19:21.000Uh, and one of the first Black Caucus, supposedly Black Caucus groups that was formed, but what we didn't realize at the time was that Black Caucus was largely being led by Blackstone Rangers and others who were on the pay of the federal government and who were there strictly for the purpose of Yeah, they want to radicalize things to then discredit.
01:19:46.000You know, we're going to skip this break with William Pepper because I want to have plenty of time to talk to him.
01:20:00.000In the next four minutes, let's finish up kind of your awakening, then his murder, and then you're in a big lawsuit right now.
01:20:05.000We can get into that or talk about Bobby.
01:20:07.000Whatever you want for the rest of the hour, please continue.
01:20:10.000Well, they killed Martin, of course, on April 4, 1968.
01:20:18.000He delivered his speech against the war on April 4, 1967, called me very late that night, delivered it at Riverside, called me very late that night and said, now you've got to have to stay with me on this.
01:20:28.000It's going to get tough because they're all going to reject me.
01:20:31.000And by that he meant all of his so-called former friends from the civil rights movement, because they were afraid they were going to lose their federal funding.
01:21:08.000He said, you've got to come down here on a Sunday and take the pulpit, and you've got to speak to my people, and you've got to tell them why I have to oppose this war.
01:21:16.000And I said, Martin, I thought he'd gone around the bend.
01:21:18.000You want a white kid from the North to come down and talk to your people?
01:21:30.000You've got to explain to them why I have to do what I'm doing.
01:21:34.000And he was adamant about it, so I went down, I took the pulpit at Ebenezer Baptist Church, and I want to call it preaching, but I spoke to those folks, and I think at the end of it they had a better picture of why Their beloved pastor had to come out against this war.
01:21:52.000And this is an example of the grip of brainwashing the American people were, when even black folks whose preacher was Martin Luther King, who'd seen churches bombed and people shot and dogs put on children, still buying in to the lie.
01:22:08.000And then people say, you know, ask people to be leaders and stand up against evil.
01:22:11.000But then when it really gets tough, people get deserted.
01:22:19.000It's kind of like the rejection of the Prophet in his own time.
01:22:22.000And that was going on, but we continued throughout 1967, and of course the 100 cities burned between 1967 and 1968, so there was enormous paranoia, anti-war activity, and enormous economic deprivation in the inner cities, causing great disruption, turbulence, and so the The military in particular was very, very ill at ease.
01:22:49.000They started to develop a plan in 1967 to eliminate King because he was giving credibility to the anti-war movement like no one else had.
01:23:02.000He was bringing in white liberals from the North and he was potentially threatening all of the bottom lines of the major corporations that We're making fortunes on that war, as they do on all wars.
01:23:16.000And so he really became increasingly intolerable, and that led to his death.
01:23:22.000And when they killed him, Spock and I, Ben Spock and I, went down to the memorial and then to the funeral in Atlanta.
01:23:30.000And Bobby asked me to come up and talk to him about the presidential campaign, because he had declared that he was going to run.
01:24:11.000Worked very close with Martin Luther King.
01:24:15.000He's doing so much, there's no way to cover it all.
01:24:18.000He's involved in lawsuits, exposing the MLK assassination.
01:24:21.000He, for years, most of the evidence we have of MLK being killed in the open and shut case, he went and proved.
01:24:27.000Let's try to condense that down and talk about your lawsuit that's taking place right now.
01:24:31.000Well, we had Of course, in terms of the King case, when we became aware, in 1978, Abernathy asked me to go up to the prison and interrogate James.
01:25:56.000But we didn't know what role he might have played.
01:25:59.000So I then started to go into Memphis on my own in 78 and started to snoop around.
01:26:05.000And that snooping around, of course, has continued for about, well, it's now 30 years, although it's virtually done.
01:26:11.000And I lived in the streets, went into shelters and befriended homeless people and drank in the bars because those are the people who really knew what happened.
01:26:24.000And I started to get a picture of What really happened there, and Ray kept asking me to represent him, and I kept refusing.
01:27:01.000Yeah, and the jury took seven hours to find him not guilty.
01:27:05.000Had a fraction of the evidence that then emerged where people started calling and providing information.
01:27:11.000I did a first book called Orders to Kill, which developed all the evidence we had Let's briefly skip ahead now and then go back, but I want to plug your new book now before we forget.
01:27:24.000Yeah, well, the second book, and the paperback of it has just come out, is called The Act of State, and that brought the evidence up to a trial that we held in 1999.
01:27:39.000I represented the King family, and we tried a case over 30 days with 70 witnesses.
01:27:49.000One of the people that I uncovered as being a key player in the assassination at the local level, a fellow called Lloyd Jowers.
01:27:58.000We brought an enormous amount of evidence to bear.
01:28:01.000And against Jowers, it took that jury 59 minutes to find that, of course, that Ray had nothing to do with the killing and that responsibility lay 70% with the government of the United States.
01:28:15.000And the government of Tennessee, and Memphis, and 30% with Jowers, who was a minor player in the whole thing.
01:28:24.000But of course, that verdict was, and that result, and that evidence is buried to the present time.
01:28:31.000CNN is presently running a documentary, they call it an investigation, that they did with the total distortion and disinformation, which didn't deal with the evidence in the trial at all.
01:28:42.000Didn't reveal to the people that we subpoenaed.
01:28:45.000All the prosecutors tried to get them to appear and they ran for cover and got the Court of Appeals to give them protection so they didn't have to testify and be embarrassed.
01:28:54.000But CNN ignores all of that kind of information and there is an effort, as you know, Alex, in so many areas of public life in America where there's been public wrong doing to cover up and to spread for all time on the history books the official story.
01:29:13.000And I found Fox News with its cartoonish ridiculousness gives CNN then cover because they can act more credible but in a lot of ways puts out even more dangerous propaganda because it's slicker.
01:29:25.000Yes, you're absolutely right about that.
01:29:32.000But I do want to digress with William Pepper because there's so many things I want to bring up.
01:29:37.000So when we get back to the full stations in three minutes, we'll continue.
01:29:40.000But behind the scenes with PrisonPlanet.tv viewers and InfoWars.com audio stream listeners, we're going to keep talking to William Pepper right now.
01:29:47.000Yeah, William, I'm sorry to break that up.
01:29:50.000Only some stations and people pick up these behind-the-scenes, three-minute breaks.
01:29:55.000I just don't want to waste time with you.
01:29:56.000We'll come back and pick up with where you were at in three minutes.
01:29:59.000But right now, I want to digress, because your knowledge is so wide-ranging.
01:30:02.000Obviously, Bush wants to go into Iran.
01:30:04.000A lot of people in Congress, Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, they say it's green-lighted.
01:30:08.000I have, obviously, sources in the CIA, as you do, who are saying, oh, it's green-lighted.
01:30:13.000They're intending to do it in September or October, barring a miracle.
01:30:18.000A. Do you think that we're leaning towards that?
01:30:21.000That it looks like the Globals are going to do it?
01:30:54.000We even talked about opening a services section in Tehran.
01:31:00.000Yeah, it's a perfect replay where they're now saying Iraq had nukes, now you changed the last letter, now Iran has nukes, and it's the same fake detente, the same fake diplomacy, when we now have all their declassified documents.
01:31:23.000There's no question that they want to do this.
01:31:26.000I think the question is only one of timing.
01:31:29.000They may well wait until after the November election to see if McCain wins.
01:31:34.000If McCain wins, then they may leave it to him because it's pretty evident that he's playing with the same deck and he's got the same mindset.
01:31:44.000If Obama should win, there's more of a question mark there, so I think I would not be surprised to see it launch before Obama took office and he'd be saddled with the results of that attack on Iran.
01:32:20.000Well, I feel tremendously distressed by the fact that the most powerful forces in the country really are the mainstream media, corporate media, because they just continually hide and dumb down the American public and distort and influence it.
01:32:41.000So in your view, we are definitely entering a long, dark night.
01:32:44.000Let me get your take on that right now.
01:32:46.000They are enormously facilitating the demise of this republic and the end of democracy in the republic.
01:32:53.000There is just no serious mainstream criticism at all that one can look at.
01:33:02.000So in your view, we are definitely entering a long, dark night.
01:33:05.000Let me get your take on that right now.
01:33:07.000We're going to get back into the murder of MLK and big new developments there, R.C.
01:33:15.000RFK, JFK briefly in the 25 minutes we have left with our guests.
01:33:19.000But I do want to briefly digress and we were just talking behind the scenes for internet listeners and viewers, for the full radio audience.
01:33:27.000We were talking about are they going to go into Iran and he was saying, well it looks like they're leaning towards that.
01:33:32.000And he mentioned Cy Hirsch and others.
01:33:34.000Our sources in Congress say the same thing.
01:33:37.000Ron Paul, who isn't one to shoot his mouth off, said last week before the House that we're basically going to go into martial law and total tyranny because that's all the preparations he sees.
01:33:46.000He says colleagues walk around giggling and talking about nuking Iran like children.
01:33:51.000A mass mental illness Kind of one of those Bible verses about, you know, giving over to craziness.
01:33:59.000Mass lunacy has now taken us, and he was getting into that, finishing up.
01:34:05.000Do you see any way of changing this and going into this long, dark night that's going to make the 60s look like a tea party?
01:34:14.000I'm afraid at this point in time, short of a very serious mass uprising in awareness, I don't.
01:34:23.000KBR was given this contract for $385 million over a year, February ago, to build effectively a concentration camp-like facilities in every state of the Union and to refurbish some existing facilities so they could be used.
01:34:43.000The excuse was that they needed these places for illegal immigrants, which is absolute nonsense.
01:34:50.000Uh, when you talk about putting them up in Maine and Vermont and places like that, we're talking about illegal immigrants.
01:34:56.000Well, Rex84 in the 80s, the original plan by Oliver North and Poindexter, as you know, serving a scholar, said they would use it as a cover, saying it was for foreigners, but it was really for dissidents.
01:35:07.000Yeah, I think there's no question about that, and they are anticipating at some point a roundup, which is an excuse for the Declaration of Martial Law.
01:35:16.000I think all of the seeds have been sown.
01:35:33.000There are some independent jurists and some independent courts.
01:35:36.000I think they're going to run roughshod over them.
01:35:38.000They just need an excuse to declare martial law.
01:35:42.000And, you know, an attack on Iran, Or some type of false flag operation here in the United States would give them that excuse.
01:35:53.000So I think we may not be terribly far away from that.
01:35:57.000If they don't need to go to that extreme, if they can continue to dumb down the population and to minimize any kind of effective dissent, they're going to do that, of course.
01:36:34.000Yes, I think increasingly as middle class people become alienated, As they did during the Vietnam War, by the way, when their children were being drafted.
01:36:45.000Now, the alienation is not a draft, but it's going to be a loss of jobs, inability.
01:37:10.000And they're taking every other major city department over there for brainwashing.
01:37:14.000I mean, and on their own battle plans, basically turning America into fenced-in cities and checkpoints where we're all slaves.
01:37:22.000Yeah, I think that the signs are there that the preparations are being raised for the purpose of taking those steps if they have to take them.
01:37:34.000He brought in the Orlando Air Reserve into Washington, brought them in, nationalized, brought them into Washington several months ago now.
01:37:45.000And he did it very quietly, but in anticipation of serious unrest in the Capitol arising and having enough forces.
01:37:54.000They didn't have enough forces to put down what they anticipated Martin was going to do in May, June of 1968 in Washington with the encampment.
01:38:05.000So they were never going to be able to let that...
01:38:36.000So they have the tyranny system idling and now they're starting the juggernaut rolling.
01:38:41.000I do with Congress with a 9% approval rating and 70 plus percent of the troops against the war and what I see I don't see it being a popular martial law like with Hitler.
01:39:47.000We're going from one to another, and then if you're saddled with Iraq as well, and a declining economy, with the economy going into the toilet, This place is going to be on fire.
01:40:11.000Every analyst, liberal, conservative, mainline, father of Reaganomics, Joseph Sticklitz, Nobel Prize winner, yourself, you all say the exact same thing because there's no other way to analyze this.
01:40:22.000And then I have some of the troops sending me threatening emails with their MySpace handles in uniform, not the majority saying, yeah, we're going to kill you too.
01:40:29.000And they're laughing and think it's funny and cute.
01:40:32.000Don't they know it's going to ruin their mother's and father's pensions and our whole, don't they know that they're going to get, that this whole corporate global system isn't their friend either?
01:40:42.000Don't they understand that they're not going to get a cakewalk?
01:40:45.000That they're bringing destruction down on themselves?
01:40:48.000Or are they just so unknowledgeable about common sense and history that they have no idea?
01:40:53.000They are unknowledgeable and they're continuing to be dubbed down.
01:40:57.000They're continuing to be fed the propaganda.
01:41:00.000And that's the great crime of the corporate media in this country.
01:42:14.000I keep imagining that, keep thinking that Rod Serling's gonna walk out in front of things and tell me it was all a Twilight Zone episode.
01:42:22.000- Yeah, it feels unreal, doesn't it? - It does.
01:42:25.000Well, we've only got about 18 minutes left, and just in a nutshell, what they did to Martin, what you discovered, and your book, all the Bobby stuff coming out, I mean, it's open and shut, isn't it? - Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that If we can move on, the King case has basically been solved.
01:42:44.000There are a few loose pieces that I'm taking care of, but it's basically done.
01:42:48.000Bob Kennedy, the Kennedy case is actually easier.
01:42:52.000I was asked by Sirhan a long time ago to get involved and refused.
01:43:01.000You know what happens when you get... I was working on the King case and now I would jump into that and they would say, Here he is, this conspiracy nutter, and it wouldn't... It was just not the thing to do.
01:43:11.000Finally, we basically finished and the King family was satisfied because they really understood finally how Martin was killed and why he was killed.
01:43:22.000They gave me some of the new information, the new evidence on the assassination of Bob Kennedy.
01:43:32.000There is just no question that Sirhan did not kill him and could not have killed him.
01:43:38.000And so I've taken that case on full score now and we're going to press forward and using similar tactics I used in the King case, eventually we're going to be able to put under oath all of the evidence that will show that Bob Kennedy was not killed by Sirhan.
01:44:23.000Never closer than three to five feet in the front of him.
01:44:27.000He started shooting, the first shot appears to have been simply a blank cartridge that flared up and distracted everybody, and then he got a second shot off, and then his arm was pinned to the table, and he kept pulling the trigger and bullets went all over the pantry.
01:44:44.000But while all that distraction was going on, Bob was hit.
01:44:49.000The assassin hit him from behind, and it's quite clear That Sirhan didn't do it.
01:44:55.000It's also quite clear that he hasn't got any recollection of what happened that he was hypnoprogrammed.
01:45:01.000And this has been now analyzed by a number of people, including a psychologist who spent over 20 visits with him when he was in San Quentin.
01:45:10.000So we've got a task ahead of us to look at the whole psychological aspect of this.
01:45:16.000And the hypnoprogramming that we strongly believe was done to this guy to set him up the way that he was set up.
01:45:33.000And we're going to get this evidence out finally.
01:45:35.000We've just had the benefit of acoustical evidence that has been
01:45:41.000uh... revealed and confirms what we have from other uh... other aspects of evidence earlier very clearly indicating that thirteen shots were fired that two weapons were used because there's a acoustical difference between the sound of uh... of the of the discharge and it's a remarkable uh... because their hands gun of course only had eight bullets in it that uh... you know the number of shots that actually were fired indicating quite clearly a second gun And another assassin.
01:46:11.000So all of that is scientifically indisputable.
01:46:17.000One of the guys involved is the former president of the Association of Forensic Scientists of America, Robert Joling.
01:46:24.000So I think, and Phil von Prague is the guy who did the acoustical work, so I think we're going to go forward with the Bob Kennedy case and eventually We'll reveal that he was assassinated by forces other than a lone gunman, once again.
01:46:40.000And we're probably going to see the same people at work in this assassination, the same forces at work.
01:46:48.000In this assassination, determined not to let Bob Kennedy become president.
01:46:52.000What do you think of the news footage the BBC has gotten where it shows three known CIA guys all spinning images, dancing around right before he's killed, out there, and you can watch the body language, directing people too, looking like they're on a rabbit hunt or something.
01:47:11.000Well, I know Shane O'Sullivan quite well, and Shane did that piece, and he's also written a very detailed book.
01:47:19.000A lot of his information is very, very good and solid.
01:47:25.000I think I've got to look much more closely at that aspect of it, because I think some doubt has been thrown up with respect to some of the identities.
01:47:37.000But when we're talking about the acoustics, when you have the head of the National Forensics Association and others, this is open and shut.
01:47:47.000I don't think there's any question about that.
01:47:49.000But we're going to have to go through, Alex, the bureaucracy of the judicial system in the state of California, which is going to try to block us on technicalities.
01:47:58.000They're never going to deal with the merits of this case.
01:48:02.000They're going to try to stop us on the basis of timeliness, statute of limitations issues, you know, the usual kind of technical opposition that, when you don't want anything to come forward on the merits, you put all these technical issues up in front.
01:48:24.000And, unfortunately, a number of the members of the bench out there We're prosecutors in that office at the time.
01:48:31.000Well, as you said, we have the coroner, one of the top in the country, saying he was shot repeatedly in the back of the head.
01:48:45.000People say this is 30 years ago, 40 years ago, 45 years ago.
01:48:49.000People are saying, why does this stuff matter?
01:48:51.000It matters because the same Even as Bruce Willis finally woke up seeing some of my films when Rick Linklater gave them to him a few years ago, he said, oh my God, the people that killed Kennedy are in control now.
01:49:01.000He even said that then in Vanity Fair after we broke it before he went public.
01:49:06.000So, I mean, even if somebody like Bruce Willis can wake up, the general public should be able to wake up.
01:49:12.000But you've been around a lot of these elitists, a lot of these big power brokers in your life, and talked to folks that have also been around them.
01:49:17.000What is the mindset of the type of people that will stage terror attacks in the U.S.
01:49:22.000to blame it on enemies and launch wars, who will kill presidents, who will kill people running for president?
01:49:30.000I mean, obviously it's money and power and control, but what really drives them at the end of the day?
01:49:36.000I think at the end of the day, they are driven by the things you mentioned.
01:49:41.000They're driven by money and they're driven by power.
01:49:44.000They are, in many ways, the agents of a corporate industrial military complex that dominates public and increasingly private life in this country.
01:49:56.000And they get rewarded when they perform in a compatible way as public servants.
01:50:03.000They often end up on the boards of directors of many of these situations.
01:50:08.000You know, I mean, former head of American Express indicated that 5,000 people run this republic.
01:50:14.000And he said, you know, they meet at a place called the Bohemian Grove.
01:50:23.000And they usually sidle up there about once a year.
01:50:27.000And they make...critical decisions are made up at the Bohemian Grove by representatives of these people.
01:51:06.000Yeah, well I think they basically dominate public life in this country, and every aspect of it, and every major corporation and financial institution is dominated by them.
01:51:22.000You know, when Jack Kennedy came into power, There had been developed before he came in a plan for the invasion of Cuba.
01:51:34.000And that plan was a false flag operation that was to involve alleged Cubans in committing terrorist acts on American soil to justify the invasion of Cuba.
01:51:52.000When that plan was put on Kennedy's desk, he said, Oh my God, these guys are nuts!
01:51:58.000The name of that plan was called Northwoods.
01:52:05.000Let me stop you and just interject a question.
01:52:07.000I want you to get into Northwoods, Mr. Pepper.
01:52:09.000I saw one little frontline blurb before it was even declassified about him being upset about invasion plans that had provocations.
01:52:16.000Then years later in 2000, Northwoods ABC, Baltimore Sun, as you know, come out with it.
01:52:23.000But it looks from history, and you know more about it than I, that Kennedy was kind of a hawk, and believed in mom and apple pie, and kind of naive in a way, you know, super patriot, PT boat and the whole nine yards, and that now I've had others like yourself say that when they brought in this plan to stage terror attacks to him, that's when he said, I'm tearing up the CIA, we're getting out of Vietnam, and you guys are fired.
01:52:47.000You know, Jack Kennedy in many ways was an adolescent right straight into the presidency.
01:52:53.000He was bright, he was well-intentioned, but he was naive.
01:52:57.000And he couldn't believe that some of these things that were being proposed to him.
01:53:03.000And of course the Bay of Pigs, which he eventually was saddled with and had misgivings about, but nevertheless let go forward to a point.
01:53:13.000Which taught him a great lesson, and that's when he fired Dulles from the CIA.
01:53:18.000But the interesting thing, Alex, about the Northwoods plan, that was one of the first, I think, confrontations that he had with Lemnitzer, who was the admiral who drew it up.
01:53:29.000And what I learned fairly recently is that the name of the golf course Where the chaps at the Bohemian Grove play.
01:53:47.000And they brag that they cooked up the Manhattan Project, Star Wars, all of it, at the Grove at the Chalet, which our hidden cameras have infiltrated.
01:54:14.000In fact, he has knowledge about all the things we cover here, and then he'll always have a little more for you.
01:54:18.000And he was just pointing out that Operation Northwoods has the same name as where they hatch all this stuff, the golf course outside Bohemian Grove, where they pick up their male and female prostitutes as well.
01:54:27.000And I've been there and seen it with my own two eyeballs.
01:55:30.000These things, unfortunately Alex, cost a great deal of money and I'm having to try to earn funds out of regular legal, corporate, other international legal work that I do to try to pay for it all.
01:55:42.000So it's not a very It's not very easy to do that.
01:55:47.000The main book that I have virtually completed now is the book on Hugo Chavez-Frias, the President of Venezuela, who has been, of course, the thwarted side of the Americans and their efforts.
01:55:59.000I meant to get into that with you last time you were on.
01:56:02.000We've got to set you up to come on and talk about, you know him well, the real Hugo Chavez, because that is obviously so important to what's happening geopolitically.
01:56:10.000And that leads me to my final question for you.
01:56:13.000Do you get death threats and people ask, well, why is William Peppersill alive if he's done all of this?
01:56:18.000I would venture to say they don't want to make you a martyr.
01:56:20.000They don't want to put an exclamation point behind everything you've said and done.
01:56:24.000They don't want to highlight the work because you've already done your body of work and continue to do it.
01:56:36.000I think they should have hit me early on in the King work.
01:56:41.000And that no one would probably have noticed and that would have been the end of it.
01:56:46.000But when the King family got involved and they became really a part of the work that I was doing and in support of it, then it became very difficult for them at that point in time.
01:56:59.000And since then, I think they believe if they can just shut things down, whether it's a 9-11 work that I've encouraged or Or my support of Chavez, back and forth from Venezuela, and the Sirhan case.
01:57:15.000If they could shut them down and use any other means, they'd try to do that rather than kill.
01:57:21.000The question is, yes, they're death threats all the time, but they're not... I don't take them as being serious.
01:57:28.000I think in many ways, if they could let people like me and people like you go about the business of dissent in a controlled way, So that we're not really impacting on... It creates the illusion of liberty and then they say, oh see, they're just nuts!
01:58:22.000I've never had one, but somebody, one of the readers has organized a website called ActiveState.org, and so that's the name of the second book, so there is a website there.
01:58:55.000I've never had one, but somebody, one of the readers has organized a website called ActiveState.org, and so that's the name of the second book, so there is a website there.
02:00:40.000Finishing up with William Pepper, author, researcher, exposed the murder, assassination of Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and of course 9-11 being an inside job.
02:00:52.000And we've got him for about three more minutes.
02:00:54.000We're going to get him back up in the next few weeks to get more into actually prosecuting the criminals.
02:00:59.000We're trying to do that through the Congress.
02:01:01.000He was bringing up some other way to do it.
02:01:37.000The prosecution of the war criminals in Washington, I think, is essential.
02:01:42.000Vince Bugliosi, of course, has come out with a book now advocating the prosecution of George Bush for murder, and he builds a case for a murder prosecution inside the United States Based upon the fact that over 4,000 soldiers have died on the basis of false pretenses and lies, and were sent to their deaths.
02:02:02.000He's talked about a domestic prosecution.
02:02:05.000I'm, uh, and certainly that should go forward.
02:02:08.000My interest would be more in a prosecution of international criminal law with respect to the number one crime, the war of aggression.
02:02:17.000Secondly, crimes against humanity and contravention of the torture statutes and the torture convention.
02:02:27.000It involves about 15 to 20 people in that administration, all of whom played a role.
02:02:33.000And there is a research team now, both in England and Oxford, where I've been involved in, and over here, that are developing a bill of indictment for that purpose.
02:02:44.000Now, it may be futile to submit that to the new Attorney General next year.
02:02:54.000Because that will probably, that prosecution will probably never happen in the United States.
02:02:58.000But that has to be done procedurally before any foreign prosecution can commence.
02:03:04.000And that's what I think will probably happen, that there will be foreign prosecutions of these people eventually.
02:03:11.000Well, I believe the prosecution should be done right here in the Republic, but if it's totally controlled and the Congress is cowed through threats, intimidation, and collusion, I think to internationally display the crimes to then trigger prosecution here is the avenue to go, plus the international order Let me tell you Alex, I know a few foreign judges, magistrates and foreign judges who were chafing at the bit to actually undertake the prosecution of these people.
02:03:36.000and to hamstring the New World Order and kind of use its own mechanisms against itself is a good thing.
02:03:42.000Let me tell you, Alex, I know a few foreign judges, magistrates and foreign judges, who were chafing at the bit to actually undertake the prosecution of these people.
02:03:57.000That's how much anger there is over what this crowd has done throughout the world.
02:04:03.000Well there's even a lot of elites that know this is reckless, this is Hitlerian, and it's endangering the whole planet, and everything is spiraling into a black abyss.
02:04:12.000William Pepper, thank you so much for spending time with us.
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02:08:40.000Trying to get his sons out of the car so they couldn't kill him.
02:08:46.000as they'd sworn to do further on the edge ladies and gentlemen greater the intensity I think you just heard the berth earlier of, uh, you know how Big Pharmaid isn't really announced?
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02:09:32.000But to all of you who've stood up for liberty and freedom going back thousands of years, the only reason we have any liberty or freedom is because of those men and women.
02:11:36.000And again, there are no accidents, technology like that especially.
02:11:39.000You've got to remember, with the level of redundancy in the work that's done, Uh, my question would be, with depressurization failure of the aircraft, hey, did they scramble two fighters the way they're supposed to to check on the plane?
02:11:52.000Well, they're just reporting it was a very serious total depressurization.
02:12:22.000The reason I was kind of being facetious there is remember any other time the FAA has had an incident like this or a transponder failure?
02:12:29.000600 times a year, fighter aircraft that are owned by the trillion dollar Air Force of the United States, multi-trillion dollar Air Force, go up and inspect or assist in whatever way they can to observe the aircraft to see if there's injury or damage.
02:12:45.000And to help the pilots out by being able to instruct them.
02:12:48.000My curious question is here, they never did that once during 9-11, we know the story there.
02:12:53.000But in a situation like this, it would be policy and precautionary.
02:12:58.000And it was contrary to such when they failed to launch any aircraft in 9-11.
02:13:04.000In this situation, this would be normal, this would be standard operating procedure, to have a couple of planes lift off the air.
02:13:11.000And since we're in this war of terrorism, and a war of terror where we now don't care about Osama Bin Laden, we don't protect the borders of America, we aren't securing the country at all other than cavity-searching Graham at the airport for plastic bottles of cosmetics.
02:13:27.000Woo-hoo, that's protecting the country.
02:13:29.000Meanwhile, are we maintaining this standard with the Air Force on standby and ready to go?
02:13:56.000But they were going to a committee meeting Today, dealing with it, and he was going to be leading with those other six congressmen a fight to expose the corruption.
02:14:08.000That is actually in the KHOU Channel 11 out of Houston TV report.
02:14:13.000I mean, he's going to criticize the airlines and billions of dollars in cheating they're involved in, and his plane depressurizes.
02:14:21.000My God, he better make sure that he stays on course, and pardon the pun on that, but you know what I mean?
02:14:26.000Stay on flight, stay on target, you're taking flak, that means you're hitting the proper target.
02:14:31.000When you know you're over the target, when you can feel the plane bucking from the air defense fire, you know what I mean?
02:14:38.000So for everybody out there listening, the best thing we can do right now is to everybody, everybody out there listening, no matter where you are, We need to give Ron Paul's office a support.
02:14:49.000You know, call in one form or another.
02:15:02.000Well, the other thing I would say is this.
02:15:03.000Now, and this is something that we had as a policy.
02:15:06.000I've flown millions of miles, of course under a dozen hundred.
02:15:09.000Actually, your listeners know because they helped with this.
02:15:12.000Under virtually thousands of names, okay, back in the day.
02:15:17.000And because of this, we were able to speak to millions and millions and millions of people, and travel to 48 of the 50 states, pretty much with impunity.
02:15:25.000And we got the message out and around, but there was a given point where people said, well, you can't fly anymore.
02:15:29.000Well, we understood the risk of that, but we continued anyway, and progressively, there were more and more restrictions and things, of course, were thrown in there to try and stumble things up.
02:15:40.000But there is a point, and I would say this of most any candidate like Ron Paul, where flying is not an option.
02:15:47.000And I would say this of many people right now, flying is not an option.
02:15:55.000But for any of our key personnel, anybody out there listening, all of you people that are friends or allies of those individuals, We're going to need drivers.
02:16:07.000He drives in a bus, and I have a bad feeling.
02:16:10.000I, of course, am going to be driving to the Denver Convention, even though that's going to take about a day and a half, two days, just because I'm going to really, especially with these body scanners, with your scanning your naked body, I mean, just everything is going to hell in a handbasket.
02:16:24.000And I think this was divine intervention, because a lot of times when they have these depressurizations, Well, let's focus again on making sure we give the right support where it's needed.
02:16:32.000And again, everybody out there listening can do a little bit.
02:17:01.000We'll help you in any way that we can.
02:17:02.000Well, we're going to have Ron Paul on tomorrow, and I guess flooding their lines is fine, maybe even with a political donation or something when we call, but the main thing is I think letting the enemy know that we are fully aware of their activities.
02:17:14.000And Mark, do you have any doubt that this wasn't either a message or an attempted murder, and that I think divine intervention was involved?
02:17:21.000Well, I think more or less it was probably something that was intentionally engineered.
02:17:24.000I mean, number one, the problem is, uh, we've always argued this is why aircraft are dangerous, is because, uh, like the Kennedy, young Kennedy, when he was assassinated, uh, in his personal aircraft, the pilot is not watching the plane 24 hours a day.
02:17:39.000The crew and the pilot may have no clue what's going to happen.
02:17:43.000On the other hand, in some cases, the pilots are even flat out told, well, either cooperate with this situation or You know, it's the old mafia routine.
02:17:52.000They did this when they got rid of Terrigios in Panama.
02:17:55.000The pilot was basically told, I mean this is one of the rules in Central America, either, you know, go down with the plane, or they wipe out their family, the cat, the dog, and everybody else.
02:18:05.000Yeah, what they do is they send you photos of your children playing in the backyard, and they say, I'm going to rape this one for weeks before I slit their throat, and I've had them threaten my children, I know they've threatened your children, and you know what?
02:18:16.000We're just committed, you bastard scumbags!
02:18:18.000We know you're murdering trash, and you're going to be defeated!
02:18:21.000And we're gonna hunt them down and do to well, let's put it this way, we're not going to lower ourselves to their standard, but we're going to do to them what needs to be done to properly incarcerate, to try, and to bring to light.
02:18:33.000This is the one thing they're terrified of, is they've always thought they've always, they operate complete shadows.
02:20:25.000One of the most important things that people can do to accelerate the process of bringing up the proficiency and the expertise of those people coming in is standard operating procedure.
02:20:35.000Now this means, first of all, knowing to train the individual and how to accelerate his or her program.
02:20:42.000Knowing how to organize the five-man fire team.
02:21:01.000But the force strength will be in place where it's needed, when it's needed.
02:21:06.000A concept of this goes back even well before Korea, but it was called the Regimental Combat Team Complex, or concept.
02:21:14.000And what they did is basically were able to, if everything had been trained properly, take many different units, reorganize them accordingly, put them where they needed to be, bring them back out of the action, reorganize and structure them for the next issue that might need to be dealt with.
02:21:29.000The fire team and the squad, plus the effective training of the individual, is what accomplishes this.
02:21:35.000And that's what the other side is terrified of.
02:22:13.000What about the general public just having plans of evacuation if need be, where they're going to go, having friends, having food, having water, having the firearms, making sure they're in operation, just basic stuff, even below, you know, militia.
02:22:27.000Even that is part of the, yeah, even that is militia preparation.
02:22:31.000They just don't, most people don't realize the M word's attached.
02:22:33.000And people need to ask themselves, Now, what do you do if they got a truck grabbing certain people at certain houses?
02:22:56.000It's, what are you going to do when they come to your neighbor's door first?
02:23:00.000We have to be prepared to work together and to stand together.
02:23:04.000The most common mistake made is, and of course now people would say, well, I don't know my neighbor.
02:23:09.000Well, maybe you do need to find out more about your neighbor.
02:23:11.000Now, if you don't think your neighbor's that trustworthy, but you've got a lot of other people that you're going to be evacuating to, then obviously you need to DD the AO, as they say, get out of the area of operation as quickly as possible.
02:23:22.000Best still is, as the indicators are in place, we leave before it happens.
02:23:27.000Yeah, let's talk about signs, because you will see this, you will see the propaganda in the days before preparing, you'll probably see a trigger event.
02:23:36.000Well, example, we just had down in your neck of the woods, Igor talking about his Red Brigades.
02:23:56.000We'll go back to the main transmission.
02:23:58.000Get back to Al Gore down here with their million man, oh, ten million, excuse me, the secret police are one million, so that's eleven million.
02:24:34.000We are trying every avenue, as the founders did, to peacefully Energize the public, the military, and police to join the Republic and realize they have been overtaken and brainwashed by the New World Order crime syndicate, but we will defend ourselves.
02:24:48.000So interestingly enough, we've got Igor right down there in your neck of the woods talking about this, these new Red Brigades, the new spies, the eco-freaks, the eco-police.
02:24:58.000Now, I'm a conservationist, and I understand full well preservation of life.
02:25:02.000And I love the planet, but there's a basic rule here that these characters are just another re-engineered version of all the rest of the nonsense they keep proposing.
02:25:10.000A national police force, a national spy network, rodents everywhere watching over everybody else.
02:25:17.000Real quick, for part of your reading assignment, find the book, The Fabian Freeway.
02:25:32.000By the way, Oxford was mentioned at the end of the last hour, I will point out.
02:25:36.000Uh, beware there, because Oxford is the core of Fabian Socialism and their agenda for world domination.
02:25:42.000Literally world domination, they brag about it.
02:25:45.000If you haven't seen George Orwell standing in front of the twelve, the picture of the twelve wise men, which is a stained glass at Oxford, and if you don't understand that those are the critters who were orchestrating global entities such as the League of Nations and fabricated World War I. Mark, I totally agree with you, and then they have the false left system as what we run to out of the staged fascist system.
02:26:07.000In fairness to Pepper, though, some of the people that go through that system see the big picture and don't like it, and then turn against it, and I think he's one of them.
02:26:16.000And try to move away, but the problem is, is the machine itself is, hopefully through osmosis, Like sticky, sticky material on a fly trap, try to pull you back in in one form so you don't get too far away.
02:27:14.000They were, in fact, it was anticipated that the American Revolution would probably start around 1765 based upon the abuses and the train of abuses that preceded.
02:27:24.000What took place is because of the money change and a number of other actions, the British were able to stall that off.
02:27:30.000In other words, they appeased to a degree, and they realized, wait a minute, well, the stove's getting a little too hot, we don't want them to figure out what's going on, we're boiling the frog too fast.
02:27:39.000So they backed off, but then a chain of abrupt abuses came into play to include the occupation, and in fact the forced housing and feeding of British troops on colonial soil, on American houses.
02:27:52.000This is part of a long, progressive occupation.
02:27:55.000And we're seeing a replay of all of it.
02:27:58.000In 1775, the forces then tried to confiscate the arms.
02:28:48.000And this is one of the things where we said, what do you do when your neighbors attack?
02:28:52.000Number one, if at all possible, you organize virtually so that you are working together.
02:28:57.000When a foreign invader, and a foreign invader can be the federal forces askew, if an individual, if any kind of enforcement agency, is acting, and it is an obvious, apparent, you know, it'd be apparent beyond a shadow of a doubt... In a rogue fashion!
02:29:14.000When they are acting, and they are violating, when you see them beating women, when you see them shooting people, Arbitrarily, which is one of the things that you are going to see.
02:29:23.000This isn't going to be a kind of sort of.
02:29:25.000I'll give you another example here real quick.
02:29:57.000And not only that, it's right in your face.
02:29:59.000So again, here's the thing is, we already knew because it came from military personnel, it came from law enforcement, it came from peace officers around the country who were becoming thoroughly disgusted with what they saw.
02:30:09.000And this is just one example of where you go from behind the scenes, out of the shadows, and it creeps like a goo into the public eye.
02:30:19.000The Founding Fathers warned everybody about this.
02:30:21.000We had, for instance, and this is another thing people aren't thinking about this, but this is coming, Alex.
02:30:33.000A writ of a tainter is where, if I can't get Alex, I grab his wife and his kids and his mom and his dad, and I dig up even his old relatives, and I torture or I abuse them.
02:30:45.000They advertise it, they torture your children until you come turn yourself in!
02:30:50.000Exactly, and this is an indirect violation of the premise, the whole core and foundation of our process, the way we of the West would operate traditionally.
02:31:01.000And the antithesis of our form of government and our psyche.
02:31:11.000And that's one of the things here that's interesting is that, again, for people who are wondering about that, get yourself a pocket Constitution.
02:31:17.000You can get them from a number of different sources, witten printers, but citizens' rule books.
02:31:22.000You will find a copy of the Constitution.
02:31:24.000You will find in it that there shall be no writs of a tainter.
02:31:30.000This is where, again, it's also the term was corruption of the blood.
02:31:33.000In other words, even if Alex did something ten years ago, we're going to blame his sons, his daughters, his granddaughters, and everybody will be charged with the same crime.
02:31:43.000They can't punish your family house for what you've individually done.
02:31:48.000And again, this is part of the whole concept of Western jurisprudence, developed in England, perfected in the United States, and brought forward.
02:31:58.000In fact, if you rebelled against the king, they would come and clap your whole family in irons.
02:32:02.000But the Magna Carta, which was hard, that was paid for in blood, 1215 at Ronnymede said no.
02:32:09.000Exactly, and tied into that is what happened here.
02:32:12.000We fought a war for independence, which took us to the next step, scraping the table off and breaking all of the chains.
02:32:20.000This is critical to the overall concept of American justice, in that all of the, well actually it's also critical to the enemy occupying and destroying our system.
02:32:28.000And I want to point this out, Mark, we stand on the shoulders of the British people who did fight against that, and then now we stand on the shoulders of 1776.
02:32:39.000We're all connected to each other, and I do want to point out that it was almost 50% in the Parliament against attacking the colonies, but the King came in and demanded that they vote for war.
02:32:49.000So we all I also had friends in England.
02:32:51.000There were people there who understood fully what was wrong about what was being done.
02:32:55.000In fact, even... Let's go one step further.
02:33:08.000You know, one of the most important things here.
02:33:10.000Years ago, the king could take the whole family.
02:33:13.000He could grab the wife, he could grab the kids, but he could grab the grandma and grandpa.
02:33:16.000And when I said digging up bodies, that's not an exaggeration, people.
02:33:21.000One of the things was desecration of graves.
02:33:24.000Much in the same way that you would draw and quarter a person and take their body parts and put the skulls on the bridge of London.
02:33:32.000On London Bridge, and then take the body parts and spread them all over the countryside?
02:33:35.000They would do this also with family members' remains.
02:33:39.000In fact, Cromwell had the king dug up and cut up, and then I believe he was dug up too, and beheaded.
02:33:46.000And another example, remember, even for people who are wondering about this, even in the movie Braveheart, you see an example, remember, where he had to go?
02:33:54.000They desecrated the graves of his brother and his father.
02:33:58.000And so he went and dug up the grave of his wife and moved her body so she could not be desecrated by the enemy?
02:34:06.000This is stuff that sounds so bizarre, but it is the nature of your enemy.
02:34:10.000Well, Prima Noctu is also in there where they would demand, you know, with your virgin wife on the honeymoon, they would try to impregnate her, quote, breed them out, and then they would even pick people that were their, you know, unofficial sons and give them power to be go-betweens with the local slave class.
02:34:29.000And again, people are going, well, that's back then, really?
02:34:32.000There's a whole issue here, and we need to spend a couple of days on all the networks talking about the straw man, because the straw man is where Americans have been put back into bondage, and it's the admiralty law of our enemies who are the bar members, the British Accredited Registry.
02:34:54.000These creatures of the bar are loyalists who have come back in to re-bond, re-indenture the American people.
02:35:01.000We are no different in the battlefield today as we were in 1775, and they are using the Declaration of Independence as a checklist to go step-by-step.
02:35:46.000How to start and train a militia unit.
02:35:50.000This is a single PM manual, part of the several manuals that are the latest family going out all over the country to all of our new people.
02:35:57.000And it's PM 8-94, How to Start and Train a Militia.
02:36:43.000Now, you can send check or money order to Nancy, last name K-O-E-R-N-K-E, that's who the check or money order is made out to, Nancy, K-O-E-R-N-K-E, and the address is P-B-N, P.O.
02:38:58.000If you're going to have it signed, the only thing I ask is print out the name you want it signed to so that I can read it so I can make sure I script it properly for you.
02:39:07.000You don't have to send a name and you don't have to have it signed.
02:39:10.000Mark, before you leave us for the next 25 minutes or so, there's a few things.
02:39:14.000My uncle last week, when you were on with us, he wanted to know, just in a nutshell, how you dealt with seven years of false incarceration and came out even stronger and more eloquent, not even near broken.
02:39:26.000But before we do that, people misinterpret what I'm about to say, because they love to, but you understand it, you've dealt with it, you've lived it, so I want to bring this up to you.
02:39:35.000I don't want to sit here and tell people, go join the militia, so that they go fall into the hands of feds trying to provoke the terror.
02:39:50.000We're here in town and they're taking hundreds of Austin cops back to brainwash them about how to set up a police state here.
02:39:57.000We've got an Israeli intelligence running around killing people in Austin, there's no doubt of that.
02:40:02.000I mean it's just open messages to everybody.
02:40:06.000And Aaron goes, who just got out of UT two and a half years ago, he's been here ever since, he's like, oh my god, I remember when I was just part of an anti-war group, I come walking out on the street and this guy runs up and goes, I'm an Israeli, I'm anti-war, but don't think the government doesn't know who you are, let's attack George Bush.
02:40:22.000And he just said, get the hell away from me, but then saw the guy at other meetings trying to stir stuff up.
02:40:27.000Of course, I mean, they're trying to create fake groups or get idiots to go out and do something violent.
02:41:13.000A militia person wears a suit and goes down and speaks at city council.
02:41:16.000They're also ready to defend their country from enemies foreign and domestic.
02:41:19.000They're ready to help in floods or fires or emergencies.
02:41:23.000We don't creep around and hide in the bushes, but people also do covertly have other subgroups and cells that train in case we were ever invaded, say, by the Russians.
02:41:32.000And so anybody that tells you to creep around and let's do something illegal or let's go burn down the sheriff's department, that is a fed.
02:43:13.000If you go into the Old Testament, even with regard to Moses and how he moved the people, there was a point where his father, remember his father-in-law came in and said, you're exhausting yourself.
02:43:30.000You have to assign, and you have to work with smaller increments of people.
02:43:34.000And this is why the people will be divided, and that's where you see the whole numerical issue come forward about how best to govern the people and how to operate.
02:43:43.000Well, the same is true with militia formations.
02:44:08.000But the bottom line is that the concept of how best to manage a group of people or groups of people was laid down in the Old Testament nigh on how many thousand years ago.
02:44:31.000In fact, sometimes, this is what's interesting, if you go through some of the text, you know, different books, it's reinforced three times over.
02:44:57.000um most important here is again you can work with your brother your cousin your uncle uh...
02:45:03.000dad okay dad's working with his his sons his sons work with their grand you know with his grandsons you know these people there is no doubt now again your training as individuals let me give you some real quick answer get airsoft Why should you get Airsoft?
02:45:17.000I'm abbreviating because we've only got so much time.
02:45:20.000You can go to CenterfireSystems.com, buy an Airsoft 45 for $6.95.
02:45:26.000It does everything a 45 does when it comes to operation, even drops a magazine.
02:45:31.000You can fire indoors all day, absolutely quietly, and practice at marksmanship, not piddle around and just pop on the curtains.
02:45:39.000You can actually lay out a range, And have a copy of an AR-15, a copy of an H&K pistol, a copy of a Smith pistol, a copy of a .45, and with Airsoft and with little targets, you can actually practice all of the basic skills over and over and over again.
02:45:58.000I haven't had time in the last, really, ten years to shoot every week, every day like I did growing up, but I was trained, you know, all the guys are old World War II vets.
02:46:05.000This is almost, people freak out when they say this, but I was shooting .410s when I was four.
02:46:10.000I remember he was taking me out to shoot.
02:46:49.000If you can within a quarter inch group, guess what Alex?
02:46:51.000You'll have any AK-74, M4, or any rifle.
02:46:54.000That's my point though, is with that basic training I was given.
02:46:58.000I had no idea I was being given the training that made Davy Crockett and made the people of the Alamo and everything else, but that's what America was, and that's why when we went to war it was so powerful.
02:47:08.000Now we're losing those skills is what I'm saying.
02:47:26.000I can take five of those rifles, I can put five people on a little range in the basement.
02:47:31.000I can teach them basic pistol and rifle marksmanship without any fear of anybody being injured.
02:47:37.000I will teach them to the point where it becomes second nature.
02:47:40.000The next tier is to take them to a conventional range, saving ammunition by wasting most of my time where I would be consuming ammo, teaching people basic pistol craft.
02:47:51.000And by the way, folks, this isn't about the bravado and uniforms and outfits.
02:47:55.000It's just quiet, serious, happy, hidden in plain view, gearing up to defend your families from the aggravated felons the police and military are hiring en masse.
02:48:03.000Oh, and by the way, I think we should be very proud, though, of the fact that we are all in the militia.
02:48:08.000In fact, everybody, we don't have to apologize.
02:48:11.000No, no, I'm not saying be quiet with everybody else.
02:48:13.000I mean, you know what I mean, not waving guns around, acting foolish, because we've seen a lot of that.
02:48:39.000Most people don't want to be responsible.
02:48:41.000They want to be two-year-old children sucking on something constantly, staring at a boob tube, and having somebody else run everything they do.
02:48:50.000And I think militia training also should start with people going out and hiking up, you know, ten-mile hikes up hillsides.
02:48:57.000This is where, again, step one is we're teaching basic rifle marksmanship.
02:49:01.000People get a chance to get out and get physically active.
02:49:04.000We get into the weapons phase, we now have basic training and are familiar with the form, feel, and basic operation of the weapon we're going to graduate to.
02:49:14.000Now, even if you don't have those weapons, here's another advantage.
02:49:17.000You now have familiarity with an arm that you may capture or acquire in the future.
02:49:23.000One of the other reasons that even though people say, well they're just toys, Airsoft is such a cheap Vastly advanced training aid that you couldn't go out and build if you wanted to do it.
02:49:35.000Well, that's how I'm already training my four-year-old daughter, my five-year-old son, is that you just give them the little plastic, you know, safer dart guns, the airsoft you're talking about, and they're in the house shooting targets all day and don't even know they're being trained for firearm use.
02:49:50.000And that's right, and you can do it all day without anybody knowing.
02:49:52.000Now, step two is, again, equipment and gear.
02:49:55.000Remember to tailor the equipment that your person is going to go, I need an assault vest, I need to have what they're using in Iraq.
02:50:01.000What they're using in Iraq is not effective for most of the terrain or battlefield of the United States.
02:50:06.000Hate to tell you guys, most of the junk that's being used over there is specifically engineered for the battlefields of the desert.
02:50:14.000And for a specific and unique environmental condition.
02:50:18.000Deserts are just like tropical rainforests.
02:50:23.000We live in a temperate environment, so your equipment has to be tailored and engineered, plus camouflaged, to meet the needs of the battlefield that you are looking at right now, that you're living in.
02:50:34.000Well, that means you're wearing, if it's in the city, you're wearing a t-shirt with a A jacket that's got all the pockets you need, ready to be slipped right over, and pants so you blend in.
02:50:44.000That's what I forgot about a lot of the mainline militias running around the city in camo and commander outfits.
02:50:49.000The militia needs to be able to be covert or overt, whatever it needs to be.
02:50:53.000Mark, let's talk behind the scenes about that.
02:50:58.000Again, Mark, for the web, this will all be up.
02:51:00.000It's live right now, but it's also going to be posted on YouTube and PrisonPlanet.tv.
02:51:04.000All the members are watching right now.
02:51:06.000Mark, I know you don't like to get into this, but we need this specifically so people don't get burned out there.
02:51:10.000You know, they have these federal traps waiting for people, where you get to the militia meeting and it's led by a fed, as you know about a third of them are, and they say, let's go do violent things, let's get ready with pipe bombs, and everybody goes to prison.
02:51:21.000We're doing legal, lawful, above board training, really civil defense, To defend against tyranny, to prepare to protect our country.
02:51:29.000What are the tell-tale signs to look out for?
02:52:19.000When I plug the bugger on the other side, he's carrying 40mm grenades, he's carrying grenades and pyrotechnics, I'm gonna strip off his carcass.
02:52:26.000I'm gonna strip him bare butt naked, I'm gonna let the dogs chew on what's left of him.
02:54:21.000Alright, the government is hiring aggravated felons and illegal alien aggravated felons, mashing them against us, openly trying to murder us and put us into camps en masse, and forcibly inject us in nerve gas our cities, and the founding fathers said the militia is to defend against the criminal government, that was in the Supreme Court brief last month, and against common street thugs.
02:54:41.000So we're here talking about what is the law, what America is.
02:54:44.000If you're against the militia, As a lot of, Mark says, pot-licking neocons are.
02:55:25.000You'll find Equipping for the New World Order Part 1 and 2 on YouTube and in other places where other people have posted and want to say thank you because it's publicly available.
02:55:46.000When it comes to what you need to get the job done, you're going to have to figure out what fits your wallet, combined with what it is that ergonomically works with your age group, which is something I address.
02:56:17.000If something happens and they get separated, basically you're going to have to instruct them on what to do or how to deal with this, even if they're a small child.
02:56:26.000Well, everybody now, especially most of us living in these urban centers, you need to have a place where you meet your wife and children, especially if they're older children, and then if that place doesn't work, a backup secondary place.
02:56:36.000If I don't meet you here in an hour, I'll meet you here in 24 hours or here in three days.
02:56:40.000Progressive evacuation to move away from the epicenter of the threat, and a threat can be Government trying to create a police state.
02:56:48.000Yeah, remember, we have a rogue government that blew up buildings on 9-11.
02:56:51.000They're not playing games, they're not nice, and they're not going away.
02:56:55.000So focus on moving away from the objective.
02:56:57.000Again, one of the things I did, go to YouTube and punch in Equipping for the New World Order Part 1 and 2.
02:58:26.000I want to come back and talk about your time in prison and how you psychologically dealt with being set up and then being put in there and came out stronger on the other side.
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03:01:49.000Real quick, uh, from the movie you just had the music from, uh, you know, Starship Trooper, the line where the commanders are heading towards the planet.
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03:03:29.000I remember growing up in Dallas and, you know, having three or four guys corner me and start beating the hell out of me.
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03:08:36.000White House CIA advisors, historians, Nobel Prize winners, the black op is upon us.
03:08:43.000They really plan on gutting it all and going for broke and killing the country once and for all.
03:08:49.000They try to wrap all their criminal agendas in the American flag, but they're being defeated.
03:08:52.000The true patriots are rising to the occasion in the final, last ditch.
03:08:57.000That means the last ditch in our defenses.
03:08:59.000The Alamo here, as the New World Order comes up over the parapets.
03:09:04.000We're joined in the next 40 minutes, Dennis Kucinich scheduled.
03:09:07.000We're going to be calling him to talk about impeachment.
03:09:10.000We had Willie Nelson in a barn-burning interview in the first hour.
03:09:15.000That's why I've abbreviated some of the guests today, because I said I'd call him last week to get him on to call for impeachment, and I just didn't get around to calling.
03:09:23.000So I call him this morning, and he goes, let's do it right now.
03:09:26.000So we had him on, and then I didn't want to ask him about doing some big 9-11 truth movement thing, because kind of at a subconscious level, I don't want the work.
03:09:34.000Or the craziness, or people wanting to be involved, and all the nuttiness of it.
03:09:39.000The caller asked him, he said, sure I'll do it, and then I asked him off air, and he said he wants me to basically organize it and run it.
03:09:45.000I said, do you want to organize it and run it?
03:09:46.000He goes, oh Alex, you tell me and call me tomorrow, what you want to do.
03:09:49.000But he's the expert, I'll talk to him, we'll know something in the next few days.
03:09:54.000I want a gently, gently catchy monkey.
03:09:56.000I don't want to run this into the ground or people don't bug Nelson or besiege him or try to hijack what we're doing here and then kill the whole golden goose.
03:10:07.000This is really going to be great for the 9-11 truth.
03:10:25.000John Hunt, who I'm also excited about.
03:10:27.000You know, it'll probably be out early next year, middle of next year, because I want to take my time making it.
03:10:32.000The tentative title is Black Sunshine, and why?
03:10:34.000Because it was a broad, you know, Main Street, sunny day that it happened, but it was a dark light of the New World Order that carried out the killing.
03:10:42.000So darkness on that, you know, that bright winter day.
03:10:45.000So Black Sunshine is the poetic term that I've come up with.
03:10:48.000It may be named something else, but...
03:10:50.000We've got some more interviews to do, it's Cinema Verite, no voiceover, Jim Mars is in it, a bunch of other people, but central to it is St.
03:10:57.000John Hunt, son of E. Howard Hunt, when you see Mission Impossible, Ethan Hunt, that character's named after his father, CIA section chief, black op commander, overthrew a bunch of countries, we knew he was photographed as being one of the tramps, we knew he was involved always, and then before he died he admitted on video and on audio that he indeed had been involved in management Of the hit against JFK, and he's got his new e-book out.
03:11:21.000It was too hot for any of the publishers to handle, though he may put it in book form, paper book form soon.
03:11:27.000But he has his new book out with a lot of incredible stuff, stuff that's never been covered before in his new book, and we'll tell you how to get that today at his website, the e-book.
03:11:44.000It's great to be back on, and I remember what a great time we had down in Dallas, and, you know, working hard to uncover the truth and bring it to the American people and to the world in general is what you're here for, brother.
03:12:05.000John, for those that haven't heard you the few times you've been here, or on Coast to Coast AM and a few others, or Rolling Stone that broke it all a year ago or so, why don't you break down who you are, your dad, and then go through the basics and then tell us about the book and some of the things that people never heard before on the radio.
03:12:21.000Okay, well, in a nutshell, my father is E. Howard Hunt.
03:12:26.000He passed away January 2007, and it's long been, he's been a suspect for many, many years that he had some involvement in the JFK assassination.
03:12:40.000Now, everybody knows E. Howard Hunt as being the co-conspirator, the organizer of the Watergate Break-in under President Nixon.
03:12:48.000He worked as one of the plumbers, which was Nixon's secret black ops team with Gordon Liddy.
03:12:54.000They went around the country breaking and entering, firebombing, and all manner of illegal activities.
03:13:05.000Earlier in his career, my father had been Chief of Psychological Warfare during the Guatemalan The Guatemalan overthrow in 1954 of Arbenz, and later on in the early 60s he had hand-picked the members of the new presidential government for the Bay of Pigs.
03:13:29.000He was involved in the Bay of Pigs, which was the failed operation to overthrow Castro.
03:13:37.000This is just one of the many CIA secret operations that the American public was not privy to, contrary to our Constitution, which allows for us to be in control of this agency.
03:13:55.000In fact, we're not in control of this agency, and later on, at a very advanced stage, my father Confess to me of his knowledge and his role in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
03:14:08.000Now, the things that he told me, I got an article that came out in Rolling Stone Magazine, that's how the story broke, and then Alex, you were one of the first, I think the first radio station to break this nationwide after the Rolling Stone story came out in April 2000.
03:14:30.000And basically what my father told me was that he was a benchwarmer in a group of contract CIA agents, Cuban expatriates, that were working under Cuban expatriates, that were working under the protection of the CIA and of President Johnson and of the FBI to assassinate President Kennedy because he was viewed as soft on communism.
03:14:59.000He was viewed as being a danger to the true and secret desires of the military-industrial complex way back in 1963.
03:15:11.000So, what's important about this little window of history here is that this, I believe, was the first stab at the American Constitution and the first time that the secret government really had stepped in and taken control of this country in a well-carried-out coup d'etat, which my father was a part of.
03:15:33.000In my book, as you mentioned, has just come out as an e-book on my website, stjohnhunt.com, I supply all the handwritten memos and the photographs and the notes that my father wrote to me on his deathbed in Miami, Florida when I flew down there and he confessed his knowledge and his involvement in the assassination of President Kennedy.
03:15:56.000So the reason this is important is because we all have to understand that this kind of stuff has been going on a long time.
03:16:03.000It's going on today, even bigger and worse than ever, and thank God we have people like you, Alex, to bring out the truth.
03:16:13.000This book has been shopped to various publishers on the East Coast of New York, and people are just scared to take this on.
03:16:23.000So I went ahead and published it as an e-book, which you can get on my website, stjohnhunt.com.
03:16:53.000This is kind of the coup de grace, and no, they won't touch it, because they've got so much hinging on the myth And selling the myth that they told the truth about the JFK killing being a lone assassin, I'm surprised they didn't say the Tooth Fairy did it or that Kennedy bumped his head on the side of a car like they said Budo did when there's video of her being shot in Pakistan.
03:17:15.000I mean, now they feed us even bigger lies, but this is one of the big ones, one of the big icons, if not the biggest, just as big as 9-11 in the psyche.
03:17:23.000So if that falls, so many of the other dominoes fall.
03:17:26.000Yeah, this was really the first, you know, one of the biggest lies that was fostered upon the American public.
03:17:33.000And of course, you know, the mindset back in 1963 was, you know, we were still a country whose citizens were rather innocent to this kind of internal intrigue.
03:17:45.000And it was just so natural for the New World Order government, which I believe started back then, to step in and take control by assassinating President Kennedy and then putting in Lyndon Johnson.
03:18:02.000My father, I have in my book the detailed conversations that I had with my father.
03:18:08.000I have photographs of the conspirators.
03:18:14.000It's 131 pages, but it's got a bounty of memorandums and handwritten notes, the photographs of the conspirators.
03:18:24.000I have some personal family photographs in there of my father and myself and our family at different times of our lives.
03:18:34.000And it's also a very personal memoir about my relationship with my father and about my lifelong struggle to find the truth of my father.
03:18:44.000Because starting in 1970, 1971, 72, when Watergate broke and my father was arrested for his role, he served 33 and a half months in federal penitentiary for his involvement as one of the co-conspirators in the Watergate break-in, as he served 33 and a half months in federal penitentiary for his involvement as one of the co-conspirators in the Watergate break-in, as well as
03:19:07.000Um, it was just shortly after that that I saw a, a poster on a telephone pole in Oakland, California, where I was living at the time, uh, with a picture of one of the tramps.
03:19:17.000Um, now the tramps, for those of you who don't know, uh, were three, um, supposed hobos that were arrested within minutes after the, uh, the assassination there in Dallas, um,
03:19:29.000They were behind a parking lot and a picket fence in a railroad yard, and they were discovered there, and then they were paraded through downtown Dealey Plaza and taken, booked, and then released, and all the records of their bookings were somehow lost or destroyed for the next 40 years.
03:19:52.000We'll be right back and we will get into more detail on the key info that you are covering.
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03:24:23.000John Hunt is our guest, who would have ever thought that after the death of E. Howard Hunt, talk about an incredible past, swashbuckling, intrigue, black operations, overthrowing governments, and yes, honchoing the assassination of John F. Kennedy, his son now with audio, video, all of it, releasing a book right now at his website.
03:24:48.000John, again, tell people how they can get the book.
03:24:51.000Well, they can go to my website, which is stjohnhunt.com, and that's spelled out S-A-I-N-T-J-O-H-N-H-U-N-T, stjohnhunt.com, and there'll be a prompt there to click to order the book.
03:25:05.000The book's only $12.95, and I guarantee anybody that gets this book is going to be just thrilled with the information I'm providing.
03:25:12.000And by the way, I need to send some people, when we get the time, out to interview you in another interview for the film we've decided, showing where they tried to run you off the road and where they broke into your place to try to steal your notes.
03:25:25.000You know, the fact of that even shows more evidence of how real this is, all the things that have happened to you in the process.
03:25:31.000Yes, just after I came out with this information, or when I was in the early stages of processing this information, and I was making phone calls to my friend Eric Kettergaard from Rolling Stone Magazine.
03:25:51.000I had TVs, DVD players, CDs, money and things.
03:25:57.000That was all left alone, and what they went through was all my files in my office.
03:26:02.000All my paperwork had been gone through, and the files were just strewn all over the room.
03:26:09.000The break-in looked like a professional job because there was no broken windows.
03:26:14.000There was no damage to any of the door jams.
03:26:16.000It was, to me, obviously a very wonderful...
03:26:20.000well-planned and carried out break-in by people that do this kind of thing all the time.
03:26:26.000Later, a few days after that, I was run off the road on a very lonely stretch of coastal road near Eureka, California, a road called Samoa Boulevard that runs right alongside the Pacific Ocean.
03:26:44.000But I've always felt strongly that this information I have is of extreme importance historically and very significant and very relevant even today, 45 years later.
03:26:57.000What I have to offer in my book is a detailed account of what I put together from all of my father's conversations, from the tape recording he sent me, where you can also hear this recording of his voice on my website.
03:27:13.000You can click it and you'll hear my father in his own real voice confessing his involvement and some of the key players in the assassination.
03:27:23.000Now, you know, people have all thought the assassination of JFK was a huge conspiracy and how could this conspiracy involve so many people?
03:27:34.000In the 50s and 60s, there was an elite group of CIA The CIA officers that headed a very secret black operation section called the Executive Action Committee.
03:27:47.000And the Executive Action was a euphemism for the assassination of unfriendly foreign leaders.
03:27:53.000And the people that were involved in this were Cord Meyer, he was the Chief of Station of Great Britain.
03:28:00.000He also personally hated Kennedy because his ex-wife had been a mistress to JFK for Corbier was also the handler.
03:28:08.000We have the national security documents of the Clintons.
03:28:15.000Yeah, Bill Harvey was also one of the chief operatives for the Executive Action Black Op operations to assassinate unfriendly foreign leaders.
03:28:29.000He was stationed over in Italy and Rome and there's a memo that has surfaced Well, they always use go-betweens.
03:28:38.000Harvey to his CIA bosses suggesting that they use Corsican hitmen for any assassination of foreign leaders rather than using the American mafia.
03:28:57.000And these were an elite group of CIA operatives that were very familiar with how to put assassinations together, how to carry them out, and how to cover their tracks or cover their asses after the assassination was over.
03:29:10.000Antonio Vecchiano was the vicious leader of Anticastro Alpha 66, who worked as a contract agent for the CIA.
03:29:18.000He was handled by David Phillips, and he met with Oswald in Mexico in 1963, according to my father.
03:29:29.000John Hunt straight ahead, and then we're scheduled to have Dennis Kucinich popping in with the big impeachment hearing coming up in less than 48 hours.
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03:33:39.000Huge news on Willie Nelson in article format coming out in the next 30 minutes or so by Kurt Nimmo at InfoWars.com.
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03:33:51.000People have been lobbying me to try to get Ventura out to a 9-11 event, try to get Willie Nelson out to one, try to get Charlie Sheen out to one.
03:33:59.000I already got Charlie Sheen out to one, and I just had never asked.
03:34:02.000But a caller called in and said, why don't you do it?
03:34:04.000And Willie Nelson said, yeah, I want to do that.
03:34:07.000But I'm not going to... You see, Willie Nelson's going to do what he wants.
03:34:10.000He has the band, he has the tour buses, he has the millions of dollars in equipment.
03:34:14.000They are the ones that are going to choose where to do a venue.
03:34:17.000Now they want me to advise them and be part of picking who comes and speaks.
03:34:30.000Not Alex Jones, and certainly not some of you out there.
03:34:34.000So don't, uh, well you can't stop him from doing it, he's doing it, you can't, so you can, people can try to take it over, do whatever they want to do, it's not going to work, so good luck.
03:34:42.000Go ahead, just like people tried to take over my LA thing, it didn't work.
03:34:45.000I'm just, I'm tired of, I want to fight the New World Order, I want to have a big media event, I want to get it on C-SPAN, I want to get TV coverage to try to stop the war.
03:35:07.000John Hunt, I'll have him back up next week if you can do it for a full hour to take your calls because I love the different directions callers take us.
03:35:14.000In the last 5-6 minutes we've got left, St.
03:35:15.000John, other key points you want to make?
03:35:19.000Well, some of the key points covered in my book are the handwritten memo that includes the admission, finally, that my father wrote down that he and Frank Sergis had been lifelong friends.
03:35:35.000Now, this is key because He'd always maintained that he never met Frank Sturgis until he put together the crew for the Watergate break-in.
03:35:43.000Now, why this is important is because Frank Sturgis and my father were accused of being two of the three tramps in Dealey Plaza.
03:35:52.000And, of course, my father denied his entire life that he ever knew Frank Sturgis until the 70s.
03:35:58.000Well, Dealey Plaza, of course, was the Kennedy assassination.
03:36:01.000And now in this book, I reveal in a handwritten memo that, in fact, my father did finally admit that he had known Frank Sturgis during that time.
03:36:10.000So this book just chips away a little bit.
03:36:30.000Yeah, Alex, I want to make available to you the entire 10 hours which I have available to you to do what you want with it.
03:36:39.000Well, as soon as September's over, all we're working on is the JFK thing.
03:36:43.000We're working on some now, but Burmess got us to help him with his film, and that's got to be done for September 1st, so everything's insane.
03:36:50.000But we're going to send Rob out there for a week with you if that's okay to interview you.
03:36:54.000get copies of all this, interview you there in Northern California, and we've got some other interviews we're going to do, so absolutely.
03:37:05.000Well, it really is, but on the broader scale and the larger scale, The JFK conspiracy is just a part of the entire conspiracy of the New World Order to dupe the American public and to basically rob us of our rights and to establish martial law, which we're just a hair's breadth away from.
03:37:30.000Well, it's the same crew, and then you look at the presidents and people that come after, and the heads of the CIA and the heads of Congress are the people involved in running the black op that day in Dealey Plaza back in 1963.
03:37:45.000So it is just a repeat over and over again of the same nightmare.
03:37:54.000And I mentioned that Rick Linklater showed some of my films to the Die Hard star, Bruce Willis, and he went from being a Neocon follower to now, I told you before it was in Vanity Fair, he came out and said, yeah, the same people that killed Kennedy are involved in running things today in 9-11.
03:38:11.000So there it was confirmed, behind the scenes, Bruce Willis had woken up.
03:38:14.000The neocons freaked out and tried to deny it and said, we talked to one of Bruce Willis' friends.
03:38:46.000John, I just really want to thank you for coming on with us.
03:38:49.000I want to set you up next week for an hour to open you up to the listeners so they can ask you questions, and get out your website one more time.
03:39:46.000I want to thank you for the support which you have given to my efforts to hold this administration accountable for taking us into a war based on lies And for the destruction of the rule of law and the destruction of cherished constitutional principles.
03:40:04.000Because of your support, this Friday in Washington, D.C., I will make a presentation before the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives, at which time I will make the case that this President has violated his oath of office, violated United States law and international law,
03:40:26.000Has separated our nation from our Constitution and has taken us on a course that has been so profoundly anti-democratic that it has threatened the core of our nation.
03:40:42.000Because of your support, I've been able to advance this series of matters right to the table of the Judiciary Committee.
03:40:56.000Because of your support, I've been able to create an opening where we're finally getting a chance in Washington to discuss the abuses of power, to discuss a war based on lies, to discuss the whole architecture.
03:41:51.000You know that Vice President Cheney, with the permission and blessing of President Bush, held secret meetings with leaders of the oil industry, where they laid out maps of Iraq, far in advance of the attack on Iraq.
03:42:11.000You know and I know the war was about oil.
03:42:15.000And if we can force the Vice President of the United States to have to testify We can get the information that's necessary to be able to prove that not only has U.S.
03:42:26.000law been violated, but that the public trust has been under a continuous assault by an alliance between the White House and the oil companies.
03:42:41.000Ladies and gentlemen, you can watch the rest of him eloquently lay it out on his congressional website.
03:42:46.000We have links to it up on InfoWars.com.
03:42:48.000Now, I want to be clear, we only have him for a little while, Congressman Kucinich.
03:42:53.000I got Willie Nelson on the show today.
03:42:54.000I called him and said, Eddie, you want to come on and support Mr. Kucinich's impeachment?
03:42:58.000He said, absolutely, let's do it today.
03:43:00.000And I'm getting a lot of other prominent people.
03:43:01.000Ron Paul on tomorrow, though his plane almost went down yesterday.
03:43:06.000He's going to be on tomorrow talking about some other issues.
03:43:09.000So I'm trying myself in my own little way to get as much heat on the Judiciary Committee as we can.
03:43:14.000And Congressman, very brave man, our champion up there right now, leading the pack in the fight against tyranny.
03:43:23.000Well, I think you're already doing it in getting people involved to sign a petition.
03:43:27.000But, you know, this goes a little bit further.
03:43:29.000The best defense of a country is an informed citizenry.
03:43:32.000So people should read the articles, and if there's anything I missed in the 35 articles, I'd be happy to hear from people.
03:43:42.000And furthermore, if we have discussions around the country on this, if people start getting together in groups and talk and have a Have a discussion.
03:43:53.000A constitutional caucus is going on everywhere where people talk about what's the meaning of the Constitution?
03:43:59.000Why should someone who's President of the United States be held accountable to the law?
03:44:03.000What happens when there are untruths told in a democracy that result in war?
03:44:08.000We need a discussion about this because the discussion will increase awareness and increased awareness will help protect our country from tyranny.
03:44:18.000Can you go over the process and what we're going to be seeing Friday?
03:44:22.000First of all, I want to say to you, Alex Jones, that you are one of the people who has been keeping the public informed to the point where we've had such a public outcry that the hearings have been brought forward.
03:44:37.000I don't know that it could have happened without you.
03:44:39.000Because it's like, unless we get people who are really demanding That an airing of these charges be held, it wouldn't happen.
03:44:47.000So on Friday, what's going to happen is this.
03:44:51.000I will present the articles to the committee and talk about why I believe the committee should move to a formal hearing and of course with taking testimony under oath of both the President and the Vice President.
03:45:10.000I think it's really important For the American people to know once and for all, if in fact there were deliberate lies told that took this country into war.
03:45:21.000We know now that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction.
03:45:24.000But people knew back then, in October of 2002, that Iraq didn't have the weapons.
03:45:32.000They knew that Iraq didn't have the intention or capability to attack the United States.
03:45:35.000It had nothing to do with 9-11 or Al-Qaeda's role in 9-11.
03:45:38.000And yet they led the people of the United States, and led the Congress in particular, To believe otherwise.
03:45:44.000And this, to me, constitutes a grave offense.
03:45:46.000And this is one of the primary reasons why I push this, right to the point of where we finally opened up the doors to the Judiciary Committee, and at which time I'm going to be putting on the table something that everyone said was off the table, articles of impeachment.
03:46:03.000Well, we're looking at several major issues here, and I'd like you to, as quickly as you can, address those in the time we have, Congressman Kucinich.
03:46:10.000Who needs to be in all our prayers, ladies and gentlemen.
03:46:12.000This is very dangerous what he's doing.
03:46:15.000Needless to say, we all need to be supporting him right now with phone calls, letters to the Judiciary Committee, to their congressmen and women, to the media.
03:46:23.000A. The media is involved in a huge cover-up of this, other than maybe Keith Oberman mentioning it a little bit.
03:47:44.000And if anyone's listening right now and there's a show that you tend to watch, whether it's on the big networks or on the cable networks, call them.
03:48:39.000I mean, we better see this on television.
03:48:42.000Right now, it looks like we're not going to be unless it's C-SPAN.
03:48:45.000Well, you know, this is something that really depends on the people.
03:48:49.000And if the people have a strong enough outcry, I think you can create something that will be different than what the networks are currently planning.
03:48:57.000Congressman, how were you able to even get it to this point?
03:48:59.000I mean, they were saying that couldn't be done, and you've done that.
03:49:06.000You're one of the people with your listeners who have helped to raise public awareness to the point of where I think the speaker had to understand that there needed to be an airing, whether or not it would be a formal hearing only on the impeachment articles.
03:49:21.000I think, you know, the fact that we were able to open the door is a big event.
03:49:25.000And it gives us, for the first time, a chance to talk about impeachment in front of a congressional committee.
03:49:30.000I think that it happened because of the people, because everyone started to get involved.
03:49:34.000And, you know, that gave me a great deal of encouragement to hang in there.
03:49:38.000But there's a lot of people out there.
03:49:39.000You know, we've had close to 50,000 people sign that petition.
03:49:43.000And we have more people who are giving... I just got a box of petitions, just a full box.
03:49:51.000It weighs about 25 pounds of petitions from all over the country.
03:49:55.000People who are demanding that the House take action.
03:49:59.000They can go to your website, can't they?
03:50:02.000Yeah, I have a website that I think you already have been talking about.
03:50:05.000But again, Please, call the media and tell them that they ought to be covering this because this is a matter of public interest.
03:50:15.000And, you know, at last, this is about our Constitution.
03:50:17.000This is about whether or not we stay a republic and whether or not we have principles that are bedrock principles that protect our freedoms.
03:50:32.000If a government will go to war based on lies, and will raise the budgets of a military to the point of where there isn't room for anything else, and just keep building, and it's not based on the truth, you know, we all will defend our country in a moment of need.
03:51:08.000What time is this scheduled for on Friday?
03:51:11.000I've been told 10 o'clock is when the committee will start.
03:51:15.000So, again, I am so grateful for the Alex Jones Show, because you, you know, great Americans.
03:51:24.000I'm also grateful that Mr. Paul was okay.
03:51:26.000I saw him on the floor of the House today, and you know, he's a very cool head, and he said, as a former flight surgeon, he kind of understood what happened when there was a decompression.
03:51:34.000But I'm glad he was okay, because when I heard that some of my colleagues that were on a plane that was in trouble, let me tell you, it gave me a lot of pause.
03:51:40.000But he's okay, and I'm Looking forward to working with him, not only to reclaim our civil liberties, but to stop a war against Iran.
03:51:50.000Congressman, in closing, I know you're a busy man.
03:51:53.000I'd like to try to get an update next week on what happened Friday from you or from one of your aides, but in closing... No, call me.
03:52:07.000I mean, if we can get this out in front of the people, it could certainly be a way of short-circuiting the attack, but looking forward into that, do you think currently They really are still planning to go into Iran or to bomb Iran?
03:52:22.000I mean, all the signs that we're seeing would point to that.
03:52:27.000There was a very important column in the New York Times last week by Benny Morris, who is a professor of Middle East Studies, and it was out of Jerusalem.
03:52:38.000And he really, more than anything, identified that the period between the inauguration and The, not the inauguration, between the election and the inauguration of the president is the period to keep an eye on for a possible attack.
03:52:58.000And we know that there are people in Israel who are pushing it.
03:53:01.000We also know that there are people in the U.S.
03:53:04.000And we have to push back in the cause of peace and justice.
03:53:08.000And I'm always hopeful that the American people, given the facts and having the awareness, We'll stand up and defend the Constitution, and stop aggressive war, and stop the catastrophe from being visited on the world.
03:53:24.000Okay, Congressman, the website is Consentage.House.Gov.
03:53:28.000Well, that's my government website, and of course I have the personal one, which I think you have.
03:54:00.000Well, there's so many of these websites.
03:54:02.000What I'll do is, before the show ends, I will plug all those.
03:54:05.000But just Google Dennis Kucinich and you can find them all there.
03:54:10.000Congressman, thank you for everything.
03:54:11.000I just want to let you know in closing, I talked to Willie today.
03:54:14.000A caller called in and said, why don't you guys have an anti-war, you know, anti-attack Iran And Willie said, Alex, you organize it, so I want to invite you and Jesse Ventura now.
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