Alex Jones explains why we are the dumbest, most ignorant people on earth. Big Brother and the media are covering up the truth, and we want answers. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones talks about it.
00:00:12.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:41.000Hello ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us today the 11th day of August 2008.
00:00:48.000We have several important guests lined up for you today that I will tell you about after the break.
00:00:54.000For now, defiant Putin accuses US of helping Georgia as fighting escalates amid fears of Georgian invasion.
00:01:04.000Now, mainstream Israeli newspapers are reporting and bragging that Israeli forces have been involved in the entire arming, training, and sneak attack on Russian forces Thursday night into Friday morning.
00:01:19.000The average American that I talk to or I hear on talk radio or the majority of the news stories I see in print frame it as if Russia premeditatedly out of a clear blue sky attacked Georgia.
00:01:34.000Now, I'm not even taking sides in all of this, but the insulting nature of how the media, they may start coming on the news and saying the sky is red and water is black and, you know, birds don't fly but pigs do.
00:01:52.000I mean, they treat us like we're so stupid.
00:01:59.000I have been in four or five convenience stores in the last few days, restaurants, Uh, in newsrooms of, uh, radio station.
00:02:09.000I have been all over the place, and I ask people...
00:02:13.000Well, I was in a TV news studio last night, and I ask them, I say, uh, what do you think happened with, uh, Russia?
00:02:21.000And they said, oh yeah, Russia's attacked Georgia.
00:02:24.000I mean, it's just, even people in news don't know.
00:02:28.000And that's why we are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
00:02:33.000You know, I joked around about it Friday, but sure enough, it's in blogs, news stories, people on the street think that Russia has attacked the U.S., the state of Georgia, and the southern United States.
00:02:43.000It's sometimes the ignorance, the mindlessness, the lack of connection to reality of the general public, and the self-satisfied smirks on their faces while they waddle around like Miss South Carolina, not even knowing what country she's in.
00:03:03.000Because the establishment knows they've had a hundred years to brainwash and brain damage and dumb down the public with chemicals and biologicals and the schooling that we are a very dangerous nation.
00:03:17.000We are a nation of mental retards with a criminal elite of pedophiles with nuclear weapons.
00:03:25.000Can you imagine a science fiction nightmare novel Where there is an imperial government with degenerate pot-bellied pedophiles running giant military forces and nuclear weapons with a retarded population as their servants.
00:03:39.000Well, you have just described the United States there.
00:03:41.000Now, does that mean there aren't 50 million, 60 million awake, intelligent, smart people out of 300 million?
00:03:50.000No, there's certainly good people in this country.
00:03:53.000But we have really I don't want to get off into a rant about it.
00:04:33.000They just snuck attack with thousands of troops and hundreds of tanks and jets and blew up an entire city of 70,000 people.
00:04:42.000The numbers of dead are more like 5,000 now, and then our media spins it and says, 5,000 dead in Georgia, thousands dead in Georgia as Russia attacks.
00:04:55.000It's Ossetia, and they weren't killed by the Russians.
00:04:57.000But hey, when you got a lobotomized, drooling idiot public...
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00:08:00.000He's the t-rex of political talk Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network If
00:08:36.000you go to InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, you can see, I think, the most complete coverage anywhere from the most sources, from different angles, that you will find anywhere on the internet or on TV or radio.
00:08:54.000It's all available, video, audio, radio, text, French news, British news, Georgian news, Russian news, and, of course, U.S. News, which is like Disneyland, for lobotomized rhesus monkeys.
00:09:11.000And so, the BBC, by the way, is just as bad, just engaging in lying, deception, wordsmithing.
00:09:18.000Even though I know the Global Crime Syndicate is completely wicked, it still amazes me what they get away with.
00:09:34.000Of course, he's got some hit songs out there, one of them about Ron Paul.
00:09:37.000She's going to be at the Rally for the Republic coming up in early September, early next month.
00:09:44.000She'll be popping in for a 30-minute visit with us in the next hour.
00:09:49.000Professor Michael Chossodosky, expert on the Caucasus and Russia, and he's been talking about the US planning to attack Russia through Georgia for the last few years.
00:10:00.000He's going to be joining us coming up in the third hour today.
00:10:03.000And I'm also working on getting Lindsey Williams on today or tomorrow, because he talked about the U.S. trying to start a war with Russia, and he said that's what his oil company executive sources told him, and that oil prices will begin plunging in the next few months.
00:10:20.000And we've seen what has happened there, so very, very interesting lining him up for the show as well.
00:10:30.000I do want to open the phones up and give you a chance to talk about really any subject you'd like, but I would imagine that you would want to discuss what's developing in the Caucasus in northern Georgia on the border with Russia, 1-800-259-9231.
00:10:48.000Also, the best reportage we've seen, the most accurate from the integrated news we've been tracking and putting together, is the Russian television.
00:10:59.000And among them is their English-speaking Russia Today, which is their international media arm, similar to the U.S. and CNN.
00:11:17.000They are saying exactly what they're doing and what they intend.
00:11:21.000Am I saying that Putin isn't corrupt or that Russia doesn't do bad things?
00:11:24.000No. In fact, we've been critical of Russia.
00:11:27.000Most governments are evil and corrupt.
00:11:29.000But Russian media is telling the truth.
00:11:32.000Meanwhile, our media is engaging in almost universal lying and twisting and spinning.
00:11:42.000It's just so incredible to know that the criminals running our government launched 9-11, to know it comes out in mainstream news on MSNBC and The New Yorker magazine and everywhere else that Dick Cheney Wanted to stage terror attacks just a few months ago, creating fake Iranian patrol boats and having Navy SEALs attack U.S. ships in the Strait of Hormuz, blaming it on Iran and hardly, you know, we push it here, it comes out in a few mainstream outlets and that's it.
00:12:11.000It's just so incredible to know that now the crooks running our government have premeditatedly armed Georgia Whose military budget has gone up 30 times what it was just five years ago.
00:12:28.00030 times according to Jane's Weapons Quarterly.
00:12:31.000According to CIA Factbook and other groups that look at that.
00:12:34.00030 times what it was just five years ago.
00:12:38.000And U.S. advisors Israelis attack, sneak attack, a Russian province of Ossetia.
00:13:15.000It's so embarrassing, and it just means it's just going to get worse.
00:13:19.000I mean, we've got a lunatic government that's so arrogant and it's got so many super weapons that they're just, they're saying, hey, let's have a nuclear war, Russia!
00:13:28.000That's what the neocons say in the PNAC document.
00:13:30.000That's what William Crystal and Fythe and the rest of them say is, well, we got more nukes and we got better weapons, so a nuclear war is desirable.
00:13:39.000These little bastards, they get to jump in the underground railway facilities that are all the major cities and they get to go out to the different Bunkers for 5,000 and 10,000 and 20,000 people.
00:13:59.000But you've got these jackasses that are on power trips, and they just don't know when to stop.
00:14:05.000And they've got a supine, servile, drunk on entertainment and drugs population.
00:14:14.000Who literally suck their thumbs when they wake up in the morning, suck their thumbs after breakfast, suck them all day watching sports and entertainment and infotainment and the soap operas and are just, it's unbelievable.
00:14:28.000And let me just tell you something, yuppies.
00:14:30.000You think it's funny to giggle and smirk and laugh and buy into lies and say so what and have an arrogant so what attitude?
00:14:37.000I've run into people saying, so what if we attack Russia?
00:14:50.000Yeah, I was at the radio station yesterday, and one of the people there was telling me this, very arrogantly in the hallway, going, whatever, Alex, I'm hearing your show, so what if we attacked them?
00:15:52.000Can't you get that through your malfunctioning brain?
00:15:56.000If they'll attack a country with 20,000 nukes and a 500,000 man army alone, With 500 and something bombers and a thousand something fighter jets and all the rest of it What are they gonna do to you little man?
00:16:19.000What are they gonna do to you haven't you figured that out yet that when you allow great tyranny to rise and stomp on countries and kill a million to Iraqis and when you allow all of this stuff to unfold That you are inviting destruction of yourself That you're not safe?
00:16:55.000The Russians are now moving into central Georgia.
00:16:58.000Why? Because the Georgians are remashing and General Petraeus announced yesterday they're gonna fly in 2,000 Georgian troops right into the front lines To quote, engage the Russians.
00:17:12.000And now those aircraft are being loaded up.
00:17:14.000I wonder if the Russians are going to blow those out of the air with Hind helicopters.
00:17:17.000Because the Russians are saying, anybody that reinforces the Georgian military that's still attacking us is going to be shot at.
00:17:27.000Let's see, our military is so drunk on picking on the Arabs that can't shoot straight and don't have any logistics that they're so drunk on a million tube blood, you know, Painting skulls on their tanks, playing heavy metal music that maybe they want to go ahead and go up against the Russians.
00:17:44.000So they can shoot a couple of tactical nukes in there and have a nice little nuclear war.
00:17:49.000Yeah, you'll be able to act real tough, won't you, good old boys?
00:17:54.000Defiant Putin accused US of helping Georgia as fighting escalates amid fears of ground invasion.
00:18:00.000Great article by Paul Watson up on PrisonPlanet.com.
00:18:03.000Civilian genocide, dead Americans, the cost of the U.S.-Russian proxy war.
00:18:10.000You want to find one article that basically gives it all to you, this is the one.
00:18:14.000Swarms of Russian jets bomb Georgian targets all over the country, sinking Georgian ships that were trying to launch missile attacks on Russian ships.
00:18:25.000Petraeus, U.S. is flying Georgian troops into battle zone.
00:18:31.000Former Georgian, former minister, foreign minister, many Americans in Georgia training military.
00:18:37.000Cheney threatens Russia over Georgia and says that there will be a response and must not go unanswered.
00:18:45.000So here come the USC-130s with more Georgian troops out of Iraq, and while they tell the Russians, stand down, stand down, this is not an assault, See, that works on the American people when they're CPS-ing your kids, or dragging your kid off for drugs they shipped in, or they say, oh, it's all right, everything's going to be all right, stand down.
00:19:05.000You know, they tell everybody, oh, stand down, we're not going to attack you, then they attack you.
00:19:09.000That's what they always do, but the Russians aren't buying it.
00:19:15.000Again, Russia sinks a Georgian ship trying to attack Russian Navy ships, Jerusalem Post.
00:19:21.000Kurt Nemo wrote a great story, mass murderers in South Ossetia.
00:19:27.000Israelis should be proud of themselves.
00:19:30.000Multiple mainstream Israeli publications are reporting, like Ynet News is not ashamed of the role Israel is playing in arming and training Georgia's ministry.
00:19:41.000In fact, according to Ari Egozoi, Israel is involved with Georgia specifically to May I have everybody's attention please?
00:20:02.000I've come with a message of information Do you like being a puppet, sir?
00:20:09.000Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
00:20:10.000How do the American people know that 9-11 wasn't staged, wasn't engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?
00:20:18.000The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.
00:20:27.000Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
00:20:57.000It's now time to take the revolution to the next level.
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00:21:15.000Is this a flaw for the enterprise, or is our monetary unit we call the Federal Reserve Note forcing us into perpetual debt, ensuring inflation and higher taxes?
00:21:23.000These questions and more can be answered by reading G. Edward Griffin's book, The Creature from Jekyll Island.
00:25:40.000For the Ossetians, the Georgians, being played off against each other by the No, they want the great game.
00:26:03.000All day wants us to do is Keep on fucking this party They don't want to see us live together All day wants us to do is Keep on killing one another Top ranking Did you mean what you said?
00:26:50.000favorite Bob Marley song Let me put it out there very clearly, succinctly, the facts.
00:27:03.000Thursday night on the eve of the Olympics, into Friday morning, a massive attack on scores of towns in the major city in Ocetia, destroying almost every building in the city.
00:27:16.000Leveling them, bombing them, fighter-bombers strafing, helicopters attacking, more than 100 tanks, more than 200 armored vehicles, close to 10,000 troops, the Georgian military backed up by Israeli and U.S. Special Forces, mercenaries,
00:27:34.000of course, tankers out of Ukraine, that's been confirmed, just absolute sneak attack, trying to slaughter the Russian population so that they will never Basically, come back.
00:27:46.000So they'll leave into Russia and never come back.
00:27:49.000And they would go in, house to house, with the families hiding in their cellars.
00:27:53.000They would go in, hear the children and women inside, throw a hand grenade in.
00:28:05.000Imagine, that'd be like people in Austin, Texas, or say Oklahoma City, sleeping in their beds, and suddenly, a military from Three sides attacks you, starts bombing your city, bombing the hospitals, bombing the TV station, the radio stations, bombing the government buildings, bombing the police stations, bombing the Russian military base, rolling in, taking the city, going house to house, slaughtering everyone, and then, boom!
00:28:34.000Comes out on the news at about 11 a.m. Central, more than 12 hours into the attack, headline, Georgian president says Russia attacking.
00:28:45.000And Americans around the water cooler.
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00:34:04.000I have some audio clips I want to play from Russia today, which, according to all the evidence we have, are the most accurate news reports out there.
00:34:14.000But, uh, just recapping what's happened.
00:34:16.000The United States and Israel For the proxy state of Georgia with Israeli mercenaries, U.S. mercenaries, and Ukrainian mercenaries, also U.S. troops by the thousands have been there training with them, Marines and Army, but we don't know if they're involved in the frontline assaults.
00:34:34.000But you have this multinational force, basically NATO, expanding into Eastern Europe and Central Asia.
00:34:44.000They're in the Black Sea, trying to link up with the controlled areas they have in Iraq.
00:34:50.000To make it very simple, long story short, the United States, Israel, and NATO have premeditatedly attacked a Russian enclave and Russian forces that have peacefully been living with the other Georgians who had always been part of Russia, but was taken after the fall of the Soviet Union.
00:35:11.000And there were some areas the Soviets took that weren't under their control previously, like Eastern Germany, like Poland, many other areas they had no business being in.
00:35:20.000Georgia's always been part of Russia for hundreds and hundreds of years, but I digress.
00:35:25.000The point here is, there has been a premeditated sneak attack on Russia, killing thousands of civilians in an attempt at genocide to clear out Ossetia.
00:35:36.000They also had tried to attack Uh, another, uh, quote, breakaway republic that has been under the control of the Russians, uh, since they, quote, lost control in 91. They were back in control in 93 as part of a U.N. agreement, uh, in a demilitarized zone.
00:35:51.000This was a out-of-the-blue sneak attack.
00:35:54.000The Russians had seen the buildup in the last few weeks and were asking the U.S. why they were building up forces, why the Georgians were building up on the border.
00:36:01.000So the Russians had moved forces up to their border with Georgia.
00:36:07.000So that when the sneak attack took place, they were able to go in and repulse the attack.
00:36:11.000The entire time that the Georgian forces were slaughtering everyone in Ossetia, they were squeaking and squawking about how dare the Russians shoot back at us.
00:36:23.000They should just basically take their body armor and walk out on the street and let us kill them.
00:36:26.000And the women and children should just line up and let us kill them.
00:36:33.000And then they continued to attack for the last two days as the Russians pushed them out of the city.
00:36:38.000Even Saturday night, the Georgians were lying and saying they still controlled Ossetia, and that they defeated the Russians while simultaneously calling for ceasefires, and saying they weren't shooting at Russians, even though there was all the live news footage coming out of them with their rocket-propelled, self-propelled missile batteries and tanks still firing at the Russians.
00:37:02.000But they know the audience they're playing to, a complete dumbed-down Western Europe and U.S. They then try to engage Russian ships in the Black Sea.
00:37:13.000The Russians have been firing back at them.
00:37:16.000The Russians have been going in and now attacking Georgian military bases that are supplying the Georgian military that is still engaging them.
00:37:24.000They've also been basically hunting, seeking, seeking destroying the different Georgian forces as they regroup for counter assaults on the Russians Repulsion attacks that they launched trying to repel and successfully repelling the u.s.
00:37:40.000Backed Israeli backed Georgian forces But the bigger issue here is that there are u.s.
00:37:47.000Mercenaries Ukrainian mercenaries and Israeli mercenaries involved in all of this Israel's Ynet News is not ashamed of the role Israel plays in arming and training Georgia's military in fact according to Ari Egozai, Israel is involved with Georgian specifically to gear its military up for confrontation with Russia.
00:38:09.000For the past seven years, Israeli companies have been helping Georgian army to prepare for war against Russia.
00:38:31.000The head of their military is an Israeli.
00:38:34.000His door was always open to the Israelis who came and offered his country armed systems made in Israel.
00:38:41.000A source told Ynet News, compared to countries in Eastern Europe, the deals in this country were conducted fast, mainly due to the Defense Minister's personal involvement.
00:38:51.000So, see, Israel is in such control of Georgia that the head of their military is an Israeli, former.
00:39:02.000Former Israeli, no such thing, and is their head defense minister.
00:39:05.000Some of the military hardware sold to Georgia includes remote piloted vehicles, automatic turrets for armored vehicles, anti-aircraft systems, communication systems, shells, and rockets.
00:39:17.000According to Israeli sources, former Israeli Brigadier General Gahl Hirsch gave the Georgian Army advice on the establishment of elite units such as the Saret Matakal, ... and on retirement, and gave various...
00:39:35.000and on rearmament, and gave various courses in the field of combat intelligence, fighting in built-up areas, so they could run a shrink attack on a civilian city.
00:39:46.000Saret Matakal is the main special forces unit in the Israeli Defense Force, molded after the British SAS, and specializes in counterterrorism, deep reconnaissance, and intelligence gathering.
00:39:59.000Oh, counter-terrorism attacking South Ossetian civilians in a bloody sneak attack.
00:41:06.000Ari Egozai writes that Israel's foreign ministry worried about angering Russia with such military sales, but Georgian minister Temer Yacobazvali said the Israelis should be proud of themselves for The Israeli training and education received by the Georgian soldiers.
00:41:32.000Yacob Bajali is a Jew, so their foreign minister is Israeli, too.
00:41:43.000This is reading from the Israeli newspaper.
00:41:46.000We are now in a fight against the great Russia, he said, and our hope is to receive assistance from the White House because Georgia cannot survive on its own.
00:41:55.000It is important that the entire world understands what is happening in Georgia now will affect the entire world order.
00:42:01.000It is not just Georgia's business, but the entire world's business.
00:42:06.000More and more it appears, not only, and again, it doesn't appear, it's a fact, there was over a thousand Marines, hundreds of Army Special Forces, they admit Marines and Army Special Forces are currently there, training them, advising them.
00:42:19.000Not only Increasing their military size in the last five years by 30-fold.
00:42:26.000The U.S. has heavily been in there for the last ten years, but really accelerated the last five years.
00:43:12.000And if I sound like I'm at a loss for words, it shows incredible bravado, chutzpah, arrogance, just incredibly self-confident to have the United States and Israel arm Georgia the teeth and have them sneak attack and mass murder towns and cities and engage in classic genocide,
00:43:38.000going house to house, throwing hand grenades in on families, And then to have Israel involved in all of this, it's just, it's out of control.
00:43:49.000It is completely and totally out of control.
00:43:52.000And they are trying to start World War III, and now the Russians have poured in, and of course they're not stopping.
00:43:58.000They have to destroy the Georgian military.
00:44:00.000Because they're going to continue to launch sneak attacks on the Russian border.
00:44:05.000I mean, what would the United States do if a country, say Canada, attacked, let's say, Buffalo, New York.
00:44:24.000Went into Buffalo, went into Rochester, went house to house killing families, shooting women and children, video of them running over children in the streets.
00:44:34.000Just hunting down and killing ethnic Russians.
00:44:41.000Same thing they use the Muslims to do In the late 90s against the Serbs and when the Serbs fought back there were counterattacks launched against them and the media said how dare Serbia attack the innocent Kosovo And then you have Israel bragging that they have a thousand mercenaries former Israeli military That's all these mercenary groups
00:45:11.000are. Blackwater and the rest of them, they are just government operations, folks.
00:45:17.000But the governments then get plausible deniability.
00:45:20.000I mean, this is even more, that's why they had Delta Force, was because it was separate from the Pentagon and under, under Executive National Security Council control.
00:45:29.000Well now, it's just, they just command Blackwater and they can use guys from death squads in Latin America, South Africans, Americans.
00:45:36.000British, Israelis, but now it's just big Israeli merc groups, which are just surrogates for the Israeli and U.S. government, in there running a vicious terrorist sneak attack, and the average American's been taught, now, oh yeah, we sneak attack people.
00:46:15.000This is truly the United States being the bad guys.
00:46:19.000I mean, it's not enough that we attacked Iraq when they had nothing to do with 9-11.
00:46:25.000Killed a million two hundred thousand people so far.
00:46:28.000But then shriek and horror as Russia defends itself from an attack and I'm no fan of the corrupt Russian government I mean it but when they're the good guys When our government is so evil and Israel is so evil that the Russians are the good guys it just flabbergasts me All right.
00:47:30.000I mean, it's one thing when crimes get committed once a war starts, but, or to have two militaries lined up and they start shooting, but to have a midnight sneak attack on civilian centers and run around killing police stations full of police, I mean, this is incredible.
00:47:46.000This is an absolute Worst thing you can do in war is a premeditated sneak attack.
00:48:09.000if you're saying it's true, then Americans need to unite, come together, and with one voice tell the media And tell their elected officials that we are not going to get involved, because do you realize that if we got involved in this conflict, that the draft, in my opinion, would be obviously started, and we would get drafted off to go fight in this war with an entangling alliance?
00:50:04.000These were almost purely Russian enclaves, where in the 1991-92, The Georgian military again attacked and tried to commit genocide against ethnic Russians.
00:50:14.000So, the Russians came in, the U.N. came in, they set up enclave areas so that the Georgians couldn't kill them.
00:50:21.000Well, the Georgians, backed by the U.S. and Israel, launched a sneak attack Thursday into Friday morning.
00:50:50.000Now the Russians have poured in and are kicking the butts of the Georgians and the U.S. and the Israelis and are pushing them back.
00:50:57.000Now they do mean to suck us into a war.
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00:54:21.000Make no mistake, the U.S. and Israel, as well as NATO, who are running this attack on Russia, think that they're going to win either way.
00:54:38.000Because if Russia would have backed off, as they did when they handed Kosovo over to the Muslims.
00:54:44.000As they did in 79, six months before Russia invaded Afghanistan, they funded the Mujahideen to attack Russian outposts again on the border with Afghanistan.
00:54:55.000That's in the history books, but the average American thinks the Russians just attacked Afghanistan out of nowhere.
00:55:02.000And it's just because they watch Rambo, folks.
00:55:19.000They think all of this, all of this stuff is real, and you just can't help them, and you're never going to be able to help them, and we're going to be enslaved.
00:55:30.000Unless the minority of us that can still think somehow get involved, but I said I'd take your calls.
00:55:49.000The neocons knew that either that would happen, or Russia would pour in, and then they could lie in the media to the dumbbells and start the Cold War back over again.
00:56:02.000And that's basically what they're doing.
00:56:05.000then say, oh my God, look at this big crisis.
00:56:07.000And then if they want to attack Iran, Russia will be diverted by what's happening now.
00:56:11.000Yeah, it's almost like you're a conspiracy theorist for saying Georgia attacked Russia.
00:56:23.000But anyway, the Georgian president was on Wolf Blitzer yesterday.
00:58:17.000Well, we've got coming up at the 8 after for about 30 minutes, Amy Allen, great musical artist who's fighting the new world order.
00:58:27.000Coming on for about 25-30 minutes, but then I'm going to continue with your calls, we're going to take some right now, and a bunch of audio clips from the conflict, and that is Among Them.
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01:01:50.000Yeah, and I mean, I listened to a guy from Chatham House last night.
01:01:55.000And he was backing up the company, you know, the neocon line that, oh, well, Georgia was just trying to eradicate some terrorists, of course, and all this.
01:02:05.000And so that tells me the neocons aren't acting alone.
01:02:08.000They're just being the bad cop for, well, Chatham House's Royal Institute of Economic Affairs.
01:02:17.000So we're talking about the highest power of the Anglo-American establishment is behind this, and that means that they're taking America down.
01:02:24.000Because they know they can't control America.
01:03:00.000And so what they're going to do, if this goes down like they planned, and this is why I can't believe the Anglo-American establishment is doing this, because they're killing themselves.
01:03:09.000Those, the Chinese and Russians, are going to hunt the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and the Bushes and, you know, all the weak-kneed guys that have caused the war since about the 1700s that have, you know, run this whole place.
01:03:22.000And they're gonna exterminate the families to the third cousin.
01:04:33.000The whole deal about it is we're ripe to be absolutely destroyed because of the arrogance and the pride of such a stupid and fat and lazy people.
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01:08:56.000Get up, get up Start a revolution, start a revolution If I could get up, get up Start a revolution, start a revolution If I could get up that money That's a little bit of Amy Allen's song, Revolution.
01:09:14.000She's even got the Ron Paul Revolution song as well.
01:09:17.000She's had big hits and Grammy-nominated songs going back many years.
01:09:23.000And really, her bio is so lengthy, it's probably better just to bring her up and let her tell you about herself.
01:09:33.000Amy, thanks for coming on with us today.
01:09:45.000Well, I got a record deal about seven years ago on Elektra Records and I did an album and the title of the album Called, I'd start a revolution if I could get up in the morning.
01:10:15.000But on my website, there was a big banner that said, start a revolution.
01:10:21.000And there was many political people on there, you know, a lot of politically minded people on there, talking about revolution.
01:10:27.000And then, 9-11 happened, and the CIA called and said, you know, due to national security, we can't have you talking about starting a revolution.
01:10:36.000So, they pulled that, and then shortly thereafter...
01:10:40.000To be clear, and they admittedly have called TV networks and others, the CIA called Elektra Records, one of the biggest out there, same folks that bring you Metallica, and they said, uh, do not put her music out.
01:10:53.000Well, it was, it was, it was, do not talk about revolution, more specifically.
01:10:59.000It wasn't necessarily about the music.
01:11:01.000They didn't like what I was talking about.
01:11:02.000They didn't like what the message boards were talking about.
01:11:04.000They didn't like the message of the board.
01:11:33.000continue so i mean you were already awake then out of the gates but now you're really awake well yeah there was that and then i would help off if i couldn't you know find another label for many years uh...
01:11:44.000so i did you know i've i wrote in thong for um...
01:11:48.000other artists tonight you know i think that i thought that they couldn't really move i couldn't find anyone else and i'm happy i'm happy not finding any other label i would I'm happy to be independent and be able to say the message I want to say, which is why I'm excited I could do the Ron Paul song.
01:12:03.000Because if I was with any major label, they wouldn't let me do a political song.
01:12:07.000And that's really, you know, where it's at.
01:12:50.000There's just no way I could not wake up.
01:12:53.000And my first song, you know, my first single, That they did release, um, on MTV, the I'd Start a Revolution song.
01:13:00.000Um, that song that they did release, it was all about, like, I'd start a revolution if I could get up in the morning, so I couldn't leave that hanging.
01:13:07.000Like, I had to actually wake up and do something with my life and actually do something about the oppression and injustice and, uh, comment on it, because I just couldn't sit by and do nothing, you know?
01:13:34.000But I, you know, which is why Rob Paul would be a perfect president with his non-interventionist foreign policy.
01:13:41.000But I'm scared that we're going to get involved and then, you know, people are going to just do a fear vote and vote for McCain because we're in a war.
01:13:56.000They kept talking about, in open Republican memos, and of course in strategy papers and in editorials, McCain's advisors said that a war would help him, or a terror attack would help him, and then had to step down for speaking the truth openly, what they were talking about.
01:14:12.000But the New World Order loves to throw curveballs.
01:14:16.000And then having U.S. and Israeli backed Georgians, also backed by Ukraine, sneak attack Russians and Russian citizens and kill them in mass, thousands and thousands.
01:14:31.000And now Russia entering the country and widening the conflict because they have to stamp out the Georgian military that's still firing at them.
01:14:38.000But the bigger issue is the fact that our media has put out the hoax that Russia attacked Georgia.
01:14:45.000Yes. That's the hoax that is truly unbelievable, that that's what's going on.
01:14:50.000And the internet censorship thing that you're talking about, the videos and the thing that you're doing about getting people to step up and expose the censorship, I just think it's brilliant.
01:15:08.000I mean, like, last night you were talking, yesterday you were talking about how, you know, the average American thinks that Georgia's thrown peaches, you know?
01:15:57.000I used to not be sober years ago, and in my life now I'm sober because I want I'm sober, I'm focused, and I want to wake others up and to shine my light and bring beauty and love and hope, and that's really what my new record is about.
01:16:25.000Tell us about the big rally for the Republic coming up that you're going to be one of the key people at.
01:16:36.000It's going to be at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota, September 2nd.
01:16:41.000We are going to rally for the Republic, quite literally.
01:16:46.000And we're going to have a 40-minute set, and there's going to be some surprises that I actually can't even talk about, but really, really fun stuff.
01:16:57.000And I'm really excited and honored to be there and to be a part of it, part of the revolution, because that's really what it is.
01:17:04.000Well, we know who is going to be there.
01:18:28.000They think Being patriotic is about not having freedoms or liberties, not having a First Amendment, living in a military dictatorship, and being used two or three, four tours, and they're totally committed to this evil.
01:18:43.000See, they signed on to torture, they signed on to preemptive war, to sneak attacks, and so now, morally, they have to sign on to every evil Or admit that they're doing wrong.
01:18:55.000See, now evil has become good to them.
01:18:58.000Now, they're only about 30% of the troops, and we have all the polls and the numbers, but 30% of the troops are what you would call, the only way to describe them is hell's misfits.
01:19:10.000I mean, these are psychopathic demons who have an ideological overlay to their mental, you know, schizoid, dysfunctional way of life.
01:19:23.000I mean, I don't have another way to describe it, but, you know, those that have any soul have been committing suicide, and that's why there's, what, suicide rates 18 times what it's ever been in our military.
01:19:35.000I mean, America's basically over as we know it.
01:19:37.000Right. The only question is, the country's on the gurney.
01:19:41.000Can we have an electroshock with the defibrillators to the heart to get it back going?
01:19:46.000The neocons are fighting with us, the patriots, to try to pull our hands away with the defibrillators.
01:19:53.000And, uh, it's all up to us who's gonna win.
01:20:18.000The Chinese government has begun a campaign of economic threats against the U.S., hinting liquidation of its vast holdings of U.S. treasuries, responding to Washington's trade sanctions, forcing the Yan revolution.
01:20:28.000Communist Party bodies are warning that Beijing may use its 1.33 trillion reserves as a political weapon, causing bond yields to spike, hammering the U.S. housing market, and throwing the economy into a recession.
01:20:39.000Russia, Switzerland, and several other countries have reduced their holdings due to this threat.
01:20:43.000Economist Ambrose Evans Pritchard published the report, China Threatens Nuclear Options Here we go.
01:21:58.000Oh Our beloved Republic is on her knees.
01:22:02.000The forces of globalism are destroying national sovereignty worldwide.
01:22:06.000But in Liberty's darkest hour, there is hope.
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01:22:11.000It is essential that patriots worldwide accelerate their fellow man's understanding of the New World Order Master Plan.
01:22:17.000We have a short time frame to fully awaken and energize the people to meet this threat.
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01:23:01.000It is now time to reign in evil and bring them to justice.
01:23:05.000Through the authority that has been delegated to us, it is time to destroy the destroyers.
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01:24:37.000We have woken up tens of millions more Americans and people worldwide about the private Federal Reserve, about the inflation tax, about what American values are really all about, not preemptively attacking innocent countries.
01:24:52.000That's why what happened with Ron Paul is so important.
01:24:58.000I should add, Jimmy Vaughn, at least last time I checked, is also the blues legend, gonna be playing at the event.
01:25:04.000And they told me some of the other people that are pretty much signed up, but they're having to just finish a few of the details.
01:25:10.000And believe me, if you heard who, you'd want to go.
01:25:13.000But the tickets are selling out fast, by the way, at rallyfortherepublic.com.
01:25:18.000Going back to Amy Allen, who, again, is an award-winning musician in her own right, who Put together the Ron Paul song that you just heard there.
01:25:30.000Amy, I mean, can you comment on or flesh out the point I was making or add to it or disagree with it?
01:25:37.000That the Ron Paul revolution is all of our revolution and it's really succeeded because more people now than ever know about liberty.
01:25:46.000You know, back to your internet censorship, you know, not only is the Ron Paul video been completely, you know, hacked, On YouTube, but on so many different websites, whether it be Dig, if someone puts it up, Dig pulls it down.
01:26:01.000You know, there's so many different websites that are censoring it.
01:26:04.000It's just unbelievable to have witnessed it time after time after time.
01:26:10.000We have MySpace officially told us that they let us have a MySpace account, but they don't let our bulletins go out.
01:26:16.000But about 80% of the time they don't go out.
01:26:19.000Sometimes they do go out, or people copy our bulletins and send them out themselves, but Then people make videos on YouTube saying we're lying about this.
01:26:27.000Comcast admits in Canada, along with the other big company, that they're going to restrict the web down to just a few thousand sites and don't give you a choice.
01:26:35.000And people don't call that censorship?
01:26:37.000And they're talking about getting rid of the old free open internet?
01:26:50.000And you know what, Ron Paul, you know, when everyone did that march in DC, you know, there's 20,000 people that marched, and I just think, I'm really hoping it sent a message to the oppressors that, you know, we're here, and that we're not going away, and our numbers are just going to keep growing, and we're not going to sit back and watch our country lose our sovereignty, lose our freedoms, lose our liberties, without people standing up for it.
01:27:14.000And I think that Ron Paul is really giving our nation hope, you know, and that's really Thank God.
01:27:21.000Seriously. Well, Amy, what I want to do is I want to get you up for a full hour to take phone calls in the week before the event, and I do want to try to maybe, if you've got the time, be a field reporter for us just once or twice during the event on the 1st and 2nd.
01:27:43.000I can't think of a better person Absolutely.
01:27:57.000behind the stage and in front of the stage and in all the booths and the entire convention area there at the Target Center, I would just love to have you give us a few reports while you're there.
01:28:12.000Tell folks how they can find out more about your music.
01:28:15.000Okay, so I never really finished about the election thing.
01:28:18.000In order to get my music out that I'd spent two years recording, I had to re-record it.
01:28:24.000So I re-recorded it as a duet, and the duet is called Scott and Amy.
01:28:30.000So I lifted the re-recording restriction, and I got a chance to re-record all that.
01:28:35.000So that, they can go to ScottAndAmy.com to get that album and listen to that.
01:28:39.000And they can go to AmyAllen.com and get...
01:28:46.000Well, you've already had great success, and you're going to have even greater success in the future.
01:29:01.000And you are a total revolutionary, because art, you know, really is the One of the greatest powers we have out there, one of the greatest tools we have to awaken people, and there's a lot of pressure, we know, on artists to conform to the establishment, but you're blaming...
01:29:20.000Managers and labels won't touch artists that are political.
01:29:26.000And you know, some people were saying to me, Amy, you know, it's just like some, you know, move for your career, and it's like, are you out of your mind?
01:29:32.000This is like, for my career, I mean, I live in Hollywood, you know, they, they don't, they don't, uh, they're not very, uh, they're pretty liberal.
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01:34:57.000The whole Hollywood system itself is in crisis.
01:35:00.000And the old mainline media Well, I think that what's really interesting and what nobody talks about,
01:35:27.000and I've just continually forgot about it, but in In Hollywood, in West Hollywood specifically, in the gay community, there is a big movement for Ron Paul.
01:35:38.000And you just don't see it in any of the media.
01:35:41.000They just say, you know, that the gay community is for Barack Obama, for Hillary Clinton.
01:35:45.000But that's just not, this is not the case.
01:35:48.000There's a huge gay community in Hollywood that wants their freedom, wants their liberties, wants the government to stay out of their business.
01:35:56.000And the Ron Paul music video Everyone from the light to the camera to the wardrobe to everything, you know, the entire production was all volunteered by the gay community.
01:36:08.000And they really fought hard and they really, um, they're the ones that pushed me into doing it.
01:36:15.000I mean, they're the ones that got me involved and started telling me, like, all this stuff about Ron Paul and about, you know, just got me really aware of what was happening.
01:36:22.000And then we saw the distortion in the media that he hates those people.
01:36:37.000Absolutely. They want to behave like if we do become successful, or if we are able to fund ourselves, that somehow is wrong, that we should be living under a bridge somewhere and broadcasting over tin cans with a piece of string.
01:37:04.000No, we need to become the establishment.
01:37:33.000Yeah. And that's what's so exciting about you, Amy.
01:37:36.000Well, yeah, and the fact that, you know, I try and tell artists all the time, you know, they can be independent, they can start their own record companies, because the more artists start their own record companies and start their own and be independent of the major labels, then we can actually get, you know, we can have a movement of people with free thought and a free voice to say what they want, because you just don't have any freedom when you're a slave.
01:38:03.000Exactly, the military says over and over again that the biggest battlefield is the mind, and it is.
01:38:08.000The real revolution is in music, is in news and information, is in art, in films, and that's the revolution that they're most scared of, not this one-dimensional, let's have a physical shootout with the police.
01:38:20.000No, let's take over the country with our ideas, and we already have turned that corner, We are kicking their butts.
01:38:38.000And so we need to press our advantage now, uh, before it's too late.
01:38:42.000I mean, you know that, that, that, uh, the Republicans, you know how they had their, sort of, their little riot, um, in the House the other day?
01:38:49.000Yes. And it wasn't on any of the news stations.
01:38:52.000I mean, they're standing on chairs, the Republicans, they're Having their own little revolution in the House.
01:39:35.000And for days, you know, tourists were walking by and watching the Republicans just have their own, they called it the second Boston Tea Party.
01:39:43.000I mean, they were just standing up for energy prices, you know, for the energy crisis.
01:39:48.000And they were saying, you know, Nancy Pelosi, Wanted everyone to go on vacation before voting on the energy crisis situation.
01:39:56.000And so, what I'm saying is that there was kind of like a mini-riot by the Republicans.
01:40:02.000And that should have been covered, and they should have been given the political support they needed, but they weren't.
01:40:07.000But now it's not a total secret, because at least we have a growing alternative media, and that's the difference.
01:40:12.000We're still the underdog, but we can double-check them.
01:40:15.000We can expose Uh, what they're doing, and really short-circuit them and sabotage them.
01:40:23.000Amy Allen, I really look forward to talking to you more in the near future.
01:40:27.000Thank you for your tireless work for Liberty.
01:41:27.000But it wasn't Russia that launched a sneak attack on U.S. forces.
01:41:31.000It was the other way around, ladies and gentlemen.
01:41:33.000And so I wanted to play Mikhail Shalakeshvili, the Georgian dictator, Shooting his mouth off about a new world order, about a world order, saying, this will decide the world order.
01:41:56.000And of course, two weeks ago, Barack Obama called for a new world order, and we've got Gordon Brown calling for it, British Prime Minister, and all these presidents and the yuppies will just laugh and say, put a tinfoil hat on, baby!
01:42:10.000The conflict underway in Georgia over its pro-Russian breakaway region of South Ossetia is ringing alarm bells the world over.
01:42:17.000Analysts say it risks major consequences for a region that's become a test of the post-Cold War balance of power.
01:42:24.000Georgia is the West's main ally in the Caucasus.
01:42:27.000When he led a revolution in 2003, Mikhail Saakashvili, American-educated, English-speaking, was welcomed by Western powers as a fresh, reform-minded leader, one who's made NATO membership his priority as president.
01:42:42.000Saakashvili's surprise move to retake South Ossetia from Russian-backed separatists is a gamble seen as relying on continuing Western support.
01:42:52.000Support could melt away if the attempt to reintegrate separatist South Ossetia comes to be seen as reckless provocation of Russia, determined as it is to prevent NATO's expansion on its western and southern flanks.
01:43:05.000This Khan nation is right now fighting for its survival, but we are also fighting for world peace and we are also fighting for future world order.
01:43:14.000What is at stake here is world order, and what is at stake here are basic principles of international law.
01:43:20.000Violence is endangering regional peace.
01:43:23.000Civilian lives have been lost, and others are endangered.
01:43:28.000This situation can be resolved peacefully.
01:43:33.000We've been in contact with leaders in both Georgia and Russia.
01:43:51.000Folks, notice how they always vaguely, civilians have died, and I've got these reports at the BBC headline, thousands of civilians dead in Georgia after Russian attack.
01:44:03.000And then you read the article and it says, you know, SETI killed by the Georgians, but it doesn't matter.
01:44:11.000That's why the first day they were reporting on the news that Russia had attacked Georgia, Everybody got it set in their mind that that is what had actually happened.
01:44:20.000And then now it's set in the back of your mind, oh, they're the bad guys.
01:44:25.000A deliberate sneak attack on the eve of the Olympics, targeting civilians and Russian military bases and police stations.
01:44:36.000And Bush is running around, McCain's running around, Obama's running around, all saying it's a horrible provocation by Russia.
01:44:44.000This is the equivalent of if I walk up to you with a hammer and I claw you in the face with it a couple times and then you fight back and there being news cameras on it, the news reports that the person fighting back against the hammer is the person engaging in the assault as they treat the public like complete and total low-grade morons.
01:45:14.000All right, let's go ahead and take calls here.
01:45:29.000The American people, all of us, have been so apathetic and ignorant and dumbed down.
01:45:35.000You know, the other day on TV, I don't watch TV very seldom, but it came on real quick, that program Deceive the Nation, I think it is, with Bob Schaefer.
01:45:48.000It was Karl Rove, was on his program doing an interview with this guy when all this stuff is going on in Russia.
01:45:55.000And obviously we know the main Headline has been this ordeal with Edwards and his big affair and stuff.
01:46:01.000It is absolutely, like you say, unbelievable and incredible the stuff that is going on and American people still run around just going, you know, like, oh yeah, okay, and business as usual.
01:46:23.000Now, remember, about a year and a half ago, I refused to fly to Fox News because I've been in the car repeatedly going to a studio to be interviewed by Fox News.
01:46:41.000Geraldo Rivera has already announced he's going to me, and then they just decide to not go to me and cover some woman who's missing in some tropical island, some new one.
01:46:50.000Uh, and, you know, I didn't particularly care.
01:46:53.000In fact, I didn't even want to particularly go on there, even though all this evidence has now come out where she did tell her lawyer they're gonna kill me if they say it's suicide.
01:47:02.000But then her mother's lawyer is saying they don't want the documents released and the photos, you know, with her client list and the rest of it.
01:47:09.000But I was going to go on there and talk about that.
01:47:11.000I mean, that at least is more important than John Edwards isn't murdering women, John Edwards isn't, and I'm not a Democrat.
01:47:17.000Folks are listening for the first time going, oh, he likes the Democrats, he's defending John Edwards.
01:47:21.000No! I mean, you have Brandi Britton, one of her girls, the D.C. madam, who gets busted at her $500,000 house.
01:47:30.000She shoots her mouth off and says, I've seen some of the most powerful men in America, how dare the local police charge me?
01:47:35.000I'm going to talk to the press and I'm going to trial.
01:49:42.000And it's like this, it's like demonic, and you're, and they get this weird look in their eyes and like pull back from you and look at you real strangely.
01:49:49.000It's like you're the one that's bad even telling me about problems.
01:53:14.000I think it's the next freedom to fascism.
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01:55:07.000This is what you do when somebody bordering you sneak attacks you and blows an entire city into rubble.
01:55:18.000Our country is in the wrong and Israel, it turns out, took me a few days to learn all this.
01:55:22.000I mean, I knew the U.S. and NATO were using it as a front.
01:55:25.000A bunch of Israeli newspapers are bragging that their defense head, their defense minister in Georgia is an Israeli, former Mossad.
01:55:34.000Their foreign minister is an Israeli military chief, former Mossad.
01:55:38.000And I'm reading here out of Israeli newspapers.
01:55:41.000Basically, Georgia is some type of weird satellite of Israel, more than it is even NATO or the U.S. Because they were there It turns out ten years ago and then brought the U.S. in in the last seven years.
01:56:01.000But I guess Israel was a big part of, uh, I mean, the folks that set up Israel were a big part of setting up Russia in 1917 till Stalin took it away from them.
01:56:11.000Oh, man, this is so bad, ladies and gentlemen.
01:56:13.000I mean, I guess Israel's trying to retake Russia or something for the Zionists.
01:57:22.000And yes, I'm sure that Ahmadinejad's not a nice guy, and I'm sure Putin's a bad guy too, but they don't have anything.
01:57:31.000Last time I checked, Putin's trying to sell oil and gas to people in building factories, and he's got national TV ads saying that Russians need to breed and have more children, and the government doesn't say vaccinate children.
01:57:48.000And they've been speaking out against the New World Order.
01:57:52.000And saying they want to have their own New World Order.
01:57:54.000Now, I'm not saying Russia's good, but I'm telling you this, folks, they are not the big boy New World Order.
01:58:00.000Power corrupts absolute, power corrupts absolutely.
01:58:03.000There is no doubt about that in history.
01:58:07.000So, any government tends to be corrupt and bad.
01:58:09.000But this, that's happening now, with Iraq and Afghanistan and the attack on Serbia, All of this is about encircling Russia and Russia is sick of it.
01:58:20.000I mean, you don't think Russia reads the PNAC documents where Dick Cheney says they want to attack Russia?
01:58:26.000Russia knows that the U.S. gave nukes to Pakistan to menace India and Russia.
01:58:33.000I mean, the criminals running our government are handing out nukes and sneak attacking Russians.
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02:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:23.000Professor Michelle Chossodosky, who's one of the head people over at globalresearch.ca, one of the best sources of accurate news and information on the web, He's about to be joining us.
02:00:39.000Then, in the next hour, we got him, Lindsey Williams.
02:00:42.000He said on this show about two and a half weeks ago that the U.S. was going to start a war with Russia.
02:00:59.000Professor Chossudovsky also has been writing for years about the encirclement of Russia.
02:01:05.000And so we got about three minutes for a break now, and we'll come back in the next segment.
02:01:08.000He's got the total floor to break down the history, the encirclement, and how he believes this is building towards confrontation with Iran, with two more aircraft carrier groups going into the Gulf.
02:01:20.000But before, you know, your bio is so lengthy, Professor.
02:01:23.000You've worked at so many high levels of international organizations.
02:01:26.000You're an expert on Russia, on the Caucasus.
02:01:31.000So tell us a little bit about yourself, and then get into what's really happening.
02:01:34.000Well, I'm a professor of economics and director of the Center for Research on Globalization, which is based in Montreal, and I'm the author of my most recent book, entitled America's War on Terrorism.
02:01:49.000I mean, we are really at the crossroads, I think, of a very serious crisis, because the war and the caucuses, in effect, it's not intended in any We're good to
02:02:33.000go. Redirected against civilian targets, including residential areas, hospitals, and the university.
02:03:07.000Because in Tbilisi you have a whole contingent of U.S., NATO, and Israeli military advisors.
02:03:20.000In fact, one of the press reports even confirmed that Israeli advisors accompanied the infantry divisions which crossed into South Ossetia.
02:03:31.000And other reports confirmed that there are up to more than 100 U.S.
02:03:38.000And just prior to these events, Georgia and the United States conducted military warcraft, military war games, in other words, war games.
02:03:52.000In fact, they took place in the two or three weeks prior to the August 7 attacks.
02:04:01.000And, of course, the usual disclaimer, these war games have nothing to do with the situation in South Ossetia.
02:04:07.000But immediately when these war games were completed, what happened was that they started shelling the provincial capital of South Ossetia, and this resulted in...
02:04:31.000We'll have 15 minutes with you on the other side.
02:04:33.000So a classic provocation at the university, water treatment plant, other facilities that already turned the water off a month before the South Ossetia to break them down.
02:04:42.000Then a sneak attack on civilians to create a provocation to suck the Russians in.
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02:09:03.000We're talking to one of the chief global research writers, Professor Michelle Chosodosky.
02:09:09.000Let me tell you who we have on this show.
02:09:12.000People who have accurately, over and over again, predicted and and and charted what is going to happen in the months and years to come.
02:09:22.000This is a guy who's always been accurate about government-sponsored terrorism, about the economy, about what's happening in the Middle East, Central Asia, Russia.
02:09:31.000Now, for those who just joined us, he went over the sneak attack, which, as I said in the first hour, we concur, was meant to draw Russians in.
02:09:40.000The Georgians knew that they would be repulsed.
02:09:44.000You know, some are saying it might have been a test of Russian resolve, but I think they knew what response they were going to get.
02:09:51.000And now it's meant to draw Russia in, just like in 79, six months before the Soviets invaded, Operation Cyclone, they attacked the Russians to get the Russians to come into Afghanistan.
02:10:05.000That's not taught on, you know, television and mainstream media, but it's in the mainline textbooks.
02:10:10.000Just like they attacked the Serbs, Using Albanian Al-Qaeda.
02:10:16.000The media says, oh look at the Serbs viciously attacking.
02:10:19.000Professor, I want you to cover what's really happening now from the point of why they've launched the attack.
02:10:24.000But first off, the first two or three days I had people arguing with me in radio newsrooms, at TV stations.
02:10:32.000I happen to be at Well, the mainstream media often contradicts its own assessments and figures because I I looked carefully at
02:11:02.000the reports that came from the BBC, and the BBC said at least 1,400 deaths in South Ossetia, and they reported essentially the air and artillery bombardments, leaving the capital without water, et cetera, et cetera.
02:11:55.000Something which the Georgians implemented on their own volition.
02:11:59.000And now we have the Russian president, Russian generals, and others openly coming out and saying they know the U.S. is behind all of this.
02:12:10.000This is a huge geopolitical escalation, led by a vanguard of Ukrainian and Israelis, and they're involved in the shooting.
02:12:18.000Please continue with why they've launched this provocation now.
02:12:22.000Well, I think it's the most serious showdown in Russian-U.S.
02:12:27.000relations since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.
02:12:31.000What they want is, first, they want to confront Russia more generally in the region, not only in the Caucasus, but in the Central Asian Middle East region, where, of course, Russia also has oil interests.
02:13:12.000Following the completion of these war games, which took place off the northeastern Atlantic coastline out of Norfolk, Virginia, these were war games which were entitled Operation Brimstone.
02:13:31.000They involved the participation of Britain, France, Italy, and Brazil.
02:13:39.000And upon completion of the war games, the entire Joint Task Force sailed for the Persian Gulf.
02:13:48.000And they said very explicitly Operation Brimstone, the objective is aimed at training for operation in shallow coastal waters, such as the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz.
02:14:06.000and allied combat capabilities as a warning to Iran.
02:14:10.000That's very explicit, because usually when they have these war games, they say, This is Shoria or whatever, you know, they invent the name of a country.
02:14:30.000But in this particular case, they say very explicitly, these war games are intended to prepare for a naval blockade of Iran, which is tantamount to a declaration of war.
02:14:45.000Well, a blockade, Professor, as you know, a blockade is the most ancient form of warfare, or total warfare.
02:15:01.000But I, again, I think what's happening now is that you have the events in Georgia, and They evidently are distracting Russia from the broader military agenda of the United States and coalition forces because Russia is also firmly opposed to these war
02:15:31.000threats directed against Iran, which are illegal.
02:15:35.000I mean, there's absolutely no reason to attack Iran.
02:15:39.000Even the CIA's national intelligence estimate last December stated very clearly that Iran does not constitute a threat to global security, so that, in effect, why are they attacking Iran?
02:15:52.000Because Iran has 10 percent of global oil and gas reserves, and that is five times those of the United States of America.
02:16:10.000Have military cooperation agreements with Iran.
02:16:15.000They are members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which is a military alliance.
02:16:25.000Iran is an observer member of the SCO.
02:16:29.000So what we're dealing with, potentially, if, let's say, if the United States goes to war against Iran, Together with a number of coalition countries, including France, Germany, Italy, and it seems Brazil is also prepared to go along with it, because they sent a warship for the war games in Virginia.
02:16:56.000Well, sir, we've seen this over and over again in history.
02:16:59.000This is how wider regional conflicts and, of course, the first two world wars began, are all these alliances.
02:17:05.000And, as you said, the sneak attack on these Russian enclaves, the numbers are well above 2,000 coming out now, all these buildings collapsing on people, vicious sneak attack, the demonization of Russia, this is almost like it's a prelude towards wider demonization and clashes with Russia.
02:17:25.000Meanwhile, going back six months ago, the Russian foreign minister continues to threaten even nuclear weapon usage against encircling forces, moving military hardware, missile systems, radar, encircling the old Soviet Union.
02:17:39.000So it does appear that the PNAC plan of finally engaging Russia in a world war will happen.
02:17:46.000Do you think the neocons are strongly considering having a nuclear war?
02:17:51.000Well, I think that there are people in the Bush administration who are sufficiently diabolical and crazy and insane that they would, and also, I mean, you've got General Petraeus as well, that they can, and you've got the U.S.
02:18:09.000Congress, which are going along with this, that we could have a war on Iran.
02:18:15.000A war on Iran, as I've mentioned previously in many writings in the last three, four, five years that we've been covering Iran, is that...
02:18:37.000It would attack U.S. military facilities in Iraq, in the Persian Gulf, in the Gulf states, and so on.
02:18:44.000It's going to block the Strait of Hormuz.
02:18:46.000And it, of course, is also part of this coalition, which really—and you can well imagine what that implies.
02:18:56.000you think they're getting ready to hit i've i've never made any kind of predictions uh...
02:19:02.000i've always i've pointed to the fact that that these war plans are real and war plans are real and we have to take them seriously but we're not pretty too too when uh...
02:19:14.000to when and if those decisions will be taken it will that will take place there are lots of countervailing uh...
02:19:21.000uh... forces within within the united states military Fortunately, there are people in there who are sane and who understand that this is a suicide policy by the neocons.
02:19:33.000But on the other hand, we must understand that in the U.S. military, you obey orders.
02:19:38.000And if some wacko in the White House, let's say Cheney or Bush, press the button, well, then the whole command structure actually goes into full play.
02:19:53.000He is Professor Michel Chossodowski, GlobalResearch.ca.
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02:24:31.000Yeah, we'll send in Israelis and Ukrainians and Marines to blow the hell out of Russians.
02:24:39.000And we'll tell our idiot public they attacked us and they'll believe it!
02:24:45.000Well, if you think we're gonna sit around and let them destroy our country, Yes, sir.
02:25:09.000Well, things are happening at this very moment, as we documented at globalresearch.ca.
02:25:37.000I think we must understand that Georgia is a NATO-U.S.
02:25:41.000outpost. In 1999, Georgia became part of a military alliance with NATO.
02:25:53.000It also had extensive bilateral military cooperation with the United States as well as with Israel, and there's been a buildup.
02:26:05.000And in fact, I think that Georgia's role has been very clear from the outset.
02:26:11.000It's to confront the Russians, not necessarily to confront them in any meaningful way militarily, but it's an act of provocation and essentially it serves to create instability in that entire region.
02:26:37.000It's very important from the point of view of the oil industry in the region because Georgia is the transit country for what is called the BTC pipeline.
02:26:56.000It sounds like a bacon sandwich, but it stands for the Baku-Tbilisi The Ceylon Pipeline, which brings Caspian Sea oil to the Mediterranean.
02:27:10.000And what the United States wants to do is to break Russia's role in that region, destabilize, and ultimately also, as I said, distract Russia from supporting Iran in an upcoming Either in terms of an embargo on trade in the Persian Gulf or a military attack, which has been in the pipeline for several years now.
02:27:40.000Professor, let me throw in one more question here.
02:27:41.000I noticed starting on Friday, throughout the weekend, there was also a concerted effort by British financial assets, New York financial assets, and European Union assets to put pressure and drive down Russian markets as well.
02:28:21.000We just posted a very interesting article by Mike Whitney which says, you know, watch it because Vladimir Putin could start dumping the Fannie Mae and, you know, Freddie and Fannie Mae.
02:28:38.000Professor, is this not, I mean, in historical perspectives, and I'm somewhat of a history buff because it's so interesting, but From your perspective, your educated perspective, is this, in the scale of military affairs, not an extremely reckless move, an escalation we're seeing?
02:28:55.000I think it is reckless on the part of the NAOCONs, because they are overstretched, and any military analyst will confirm that.
02:29:09.000It's not comparable to any other period in, let's say, in recent history.
02:29:16.000The United States is overstretched in Iraq.
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02:33:00.000The End The neocons did a bad, bad thing.
02:33:10.000But they know they have a zombie public that'll believe anything.
02:34:19.000But after they're done plunging them, then they're gonna jack them right back up again.
02:34:22.000Now, he could be right, or this could be cyclical, because they always jack them up to an all-time high in July, then lower them down in August into the fall, and then start raising them back up in the spring into summertime.
02:34:34.000So it'll go from $1.50 to $2.00 during the summer, and then back down to $1.50, and then it'll go to $2.50, and then back down to $2.00.
02:34:40.000Then it'll go to $3.00 during the summer, and then back down to $2.50.
02:34:42.000Then it'll go to $3.50, and then back down to $2.50.
02:34:45.000Then it'll go to $4.50, and then back down to $3.85.
02:35:37.000So time will tell on this, but Lindsey Williams' predictions are getting a little too uncanny now.
02:35:44.000I think he's a moral good guy, and I think, I mean, I know he worked for Atlantic Richfield, I know he put out info that was accurate about Prudhoe Bay, that's been independently verified by Congress, but now he says this former oil company executive, it doesn't leave much to the imagination, we know what company he worked for, he's listed the man's name before, but doesn't want it said now, calls him up and says, you and your family are basically gonna be dead, we're gonna kill you if you don't shut up.
02:36:10.000But you can go out and tell people that this is our master plan.
02:36:15.000And he got this call when his hour-long speech he was giving, that we promoted here years ago on DVD, when he would be a guest on, made it on YouTube and Google, number one video for weeks on end.
02:36:49.000People that have that attitude, life is incredible, it's beautiful, it's dynamic, it's horrifying.
02:36:54.000It's all there, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and we're on the edge of major global crossroads.
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02:37:02.000We kept telling you they're gonna try to start a war with Russia, start a deal with Iran, and they may just do it, boys and girls.
02:37:09.000America out there preemptively attacking nations, and the neocons have said, yeah, we don't have the military to do this conventionally, but we may use nuclear weapons preemptively.
02:37:19.000And now they're menacing Russia, who has nukes.
02:37:24.000And I agree with Chossudovsky, that's what I've been saying week after week here.
02:37:27.000The escalation that we're seeing Just with Iran makes the Cuban Missile Crisis look tame, and now this new situation, as I said Friday, dwarfs the Cuban Missile Crisis.
02:37:39.000Now, all Americans were concerned about that and were watching and listening then.
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02:39:42.000It is so important to get the word out about who released Stage 9-11, because when you realize we got psychos, Now, don't just blow up a ship or kill some Marines and blame it on somebody.
02:39:52.000They will fly hijacked remote-controlled jets into buildings.
02:41:08.000I mean, they're creating chimera species and letting them out in open air to spread into the biosphere, with all sorts of plants and animals dying all over the U.S. and Canada.
02:41:20.000They're just nanotechs being released.
02:41:23.000I mean, you know, hadron-heavy colliders to cross the streams, as they say, and all the Quantum mechanics physicists say, well, it could destroy the earth, but that's a low probability we're gonna do it.
02:42:03.000PrisonPlanet.tv members will be able to watch it in high quality.
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02:42:07.000Again, here is the fabled enemies, but it doesn't do justice to it without the video, but here's the audio to fabled enemies.
02:42:18.000The relationship between Bin Laden and the CIA was essentially He was one of the assets, one of the people they could turn to.
02:42:27.000They wanted something done, they went to Bin Laden.
02:42:29.000In the early 1980s, Bin Laden worked with operatives from U.S. intelligence, the Pakistani military, and Arab states.
02:42:37.000Is it not true that the United States government paid $300 million to the Bin Laden family for the construction of the military camps?
02:42:50.000At basis, though, I really think that these were more CIA assets, people that were recruited, like all of the folks I've been issuing visas to.
02:42:59.000Then we have that mysterious suitcase with all of the hijackers' names and all of this incriminating evidence.
02:45:51.000Mainstream news, and we cover BBC, AP, Reuters, and people write articles saying we all wear tinfoil hats because we don't like turning humans into animals.
02:46:27.000By the way, the big genealogy sites have done studies, they found basically the same numbers.
02:46:32.000MSNBC reported on it back before the last election in 2004, that only about 3% of the population is closely related to the British royalty in the West.
02:46:43.000Well then why is it that every one of them, Barack Obama, John McCain, John Kerry, George Bush, they're all related?
02:46:50.000George Bush and John Kerry, George Bush Jr. and John Kerry, Are related on every side of their family.
02:46:57.000Their third cousins, six cousins, nine cousins.
02:47:00.000And people say, well, how does that work?
02:47:02.000Because everybody's related to everybody.
02:47:03.000It's like all Boston Terriers are related to Boston Terriers.
02:48:23.000Instead of getting 60% presidential race voting turnout and 8% on average locally, we need to get 80% local and realize the enemy has seized the presidency.
02:48:35.000What I've recently done, I've formed these committees of safety and it's an educational thing with like DVDs that you're putting out to educate our neighbors and the committees that Okay.
02:48:51.000We'll work with our state legislators because they're the ones that live right in our hometowns.
02:48:56.000And the whole thing that we're focusing in on is revitalization of the constitutional state militias.
02:49:05.000We have a lot of history here, 250 years of colonial and state militia acts, and it just needs some life breathed back into it.
02:49:16.000The structure of it should be grassroots up.
02:49:20.000Electing our officers from right within our neighborhoods up instead of top down.
02:49:27.000And you've got to have a code of conduct to shut out provocateurs.
02:49:31.000And at the same time, it'd be even good to get, say, a mayor to be a militia commander to make it more establishment so the media has trouble demonizing it.
02:52:18.000If everyone starts hearing about the secure sleeve, it'll destroy our plan to steal credit card numbers at the mall with my new RFID reader.
02:52:25.000I know, but these are our friends, Clyde.
02:52:27.000They promised not to tell anyone else.
02:54:19.000close to New Orleans, way back up in the woods among the evergreens.
02:54:24.000There stood a log cabin made of earth and wood, where lived a country boy named Johnny B. Goode, who never, ever learned to read or write so well, but he could play a guitar just like a ring and a bell.
02:54:35.000Tom in Alaska, you're on the air worldwide.
02:54:45.000Um, up here in Alaska, we're sitting on the oil, the nukes, and a bunch of Russians right next door.
02:54:51.000Um, I called before about the Barstow Mine-Out Broken Arrow No.
02:54:54.0006. All this stuff seems to be coming into play right now.
02:54:58.000And, you know, I'm really not sure where we're going to go, but we had trying to take this back politely through the process, which we're being locked out of through the voting machines.
02:55:17.000No, because I hold no religion, because God has no religion, and I love Jesus Christ.
02:55:23.000And I do feel as though false teachers will be cast into the deep ocean, and that's why I had a couple other guys call up and talk about this Kent Hoved and Dr.
02:55:46.000No fluoridation, no tobacco, no alcohol, dry powder, a lot of food stocked up, well water, and you know, you start getting into all this stuff, and you're so knowledgeable, but then you won't even look into Kent Hovind's age of the Earth, which proves that 6,000 years ago, Dinosaurs walked with people and conservation of angular momentum of space.
02:56:33.000You see, you listen to me every day and then I'm quote, you know, everything to you.
02:56:37.000I'm just an average guy with trying to bring you the best guest and, and, and trying to study what's happening and try to be accurate and do the best job we can.
02:57:10.000I just try to shy away from all of these religious, you know, infighting and things that are going on.
02:57:16.000I mean, that's what you opened up with, was saying that That you don't know why I don't, quote, you know, get involved in this big debate about evolution and the rest of it.
02:57:28.000I've exposed that the evolutionists came out of eugenicists and believe that humans basically need to be exterminated, the vast majority of us, and that they're very, very bad people, and that they're dehumanizing humanity and claiming we're all just basically mackerel fish, you know, and that old people need to be killed and all the rest of this sickening stuff.
02:57:47.000I made a film about it called Endgame and then I got bashed by all the Darwinists because I criticized him as the father of the modern eugenicist movement with his cousin Galton and I don't even get into evolution in the film.
02:58:04.000I just cover what else they believed and how social Darwinism Uh, saying the elites have a right to kill us and enslave us because might makes right.
02:58:12.000The fact that they're in power means that they're able to do all this.
02:58:16.000Uh, and then I get bashed by the evolutionists when I didn't even get into evolution.
02:58:20.000I said social Darwinism, an offshoot of evolution, uh, evolutionary theory, which says we're all basically animals and the elite needs to kill us.
02:58:29.000Uh, so I'm just not gonna get off into Uh, these debates with people.
02:58:34.000I'm just gonna keep covering the news.
02:58:36.000We're gonna do that when we get back with more calls than Lindsey Williams.
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03:00:08.000Social Darwinism is the most wicked ideology ever invented by government and elitist control freaks.
03:00:18.000Elitists had always thought they were God, always thought they were better than the commoners, and through feudalism they sought to They starve and enslave their populations as a mode of control, social control.
03:00:30.000And I made a film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, where I show you the social Darwinism, the Planned Parenthood, the eugenics, the poisoning of your food and water.
03:00:40.000And so I fully engage them in a frontal assault.
03:00:43.000Something you don't hear all the mainline Christians and all the people that don't really teach the gospel, they just argue and fight all day about evolution.
03:00:51.000I don't argue with how God makes things or how God produces things or interpretations of the Bible.
03:01:11.000You need to, you know, get into the whole evolution debate.
03:01:14.000Well, I'll decide where and when I want to fight an issue.
03:01:17.000And the social Darwinists that came directly out of Darwinism About 110 years ago, when they formed the social Darwinist idea out of the just 50-year-old Darwinian theory, really about 40-year-old Darwinian theory, is abhorrent.
03:01:33.000And the elites say, we're in power, we're in control, because genetically, we are the best, we are the elite.
03:01:39.000And so it's our right to kill and steal and murder and poison whoever we want, because we are carrying out evolution And we are carrying out a positive evolution of the elite over the slaves.
03:01:51.000And the slaves don't deserve to breed, they deserve to die.
03:01:55.000Now, if that isn't attacking Darwinism, I don't know what is.
03:01:58.000Now, I'm not debating whether Darwinism itself has any merit, or whether species selectively change, or whether you breed two big people together and you get a bigger child.
03:02:06.000You know, breeding, I believe in that.
03:02:08.000I believe, obviously, in a lot of the basics.
03:02:11.000But if things just suddenly fish turn into monkeys, no, I don't believe that happens.
03:02:16.000I mean, the Darwinists have had to admit they've been wrong about most things they said.
03:02:20.000And they're having to admit things don't change over millions of years.
03:02:22.000A lot of times they change in a matter of a few thousand years.
03:02:25.000So, the Darwinists have got a lot of their stuff wrong from what the real scientific community says.
03:02:31.000But I think Christians, and this came out actually, were baited a hundred years ago by scientists who didn't like Christianity, who wanted to make it look bad, And so it was basically professors and scientists that wanted to get some preacher, you know, who didn't even have a college degree, into some debate with them to make them look like idiots.
03:02:52.000Now, have the Darwinists created Piltdown Man and all these fake creatures and animals and primates and fake Homo sapiens skeletons?
03:03:11.000You can call in about those issues, you can call in and bring it up if you want, but I am not going to be your champion.
03:03:17.000I am not going to be a champion, you know, for the Seventh-day Adventist, or a champion for the Protestants, or a champion for the Catholics, or...
03:03:25.000And all these groups, you know, write me and call me and say, we need you to be a champion for This Seventh-Day Adventist break-off group, or the Jehovah's Witnesses, or the Southern Baptist, or the...
03:04:00.000I am here to point out that the U.S.-backed, Israeli-backed forces attacked the Russians last week, and it's a very dangerous escalation.
03:04:07.000I'm here to talk about the devaluation of the dollar to put political pressure on Congress to free up oil supplies and to strengthen the dollar.
03:04:16.000I am here trying to fight for the Second Amendment.
03:04:19.000I'm here trying to defend our borders and sovereignty, because it's part of the globalist plan to break down our borders.
03:04:26.000I am attacking whatever their main programs are.
03:04:31.000I am attacking their main operations and trying to mobilize the people, not to follow some particular, you know, specially cut ideology, but to just get people to look around them and think for themselves.
03:04:45.000Okay? That's why we'll have guests on that don't agree with each other.
03:04:48.000That's why we have callers on that don't agree with each other.
03:04:51.000That's why we're having a college discussion.