Webster Tarpley joins Alex on the show to talk about the Democratic nomination and why he thinks John McCain is a better choice than Barack Obama for the White House. He also gives his predictions for the outcome of the election.
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00:00:59.000Webster, finishing up with what you expect to see in this election.
00:01:03.000I know you think that the greater of two evils is Barack Obama.
00:01:06.000I myself see it as a huge distraction, but I understand you're saying his star appeal, and I agree, will bring people into the fold to support the corporate fascism and give them the grassroots cover they need.
00:01:18.000So I agree with you he's the most dangerous candidate.
00:01:21.000I just psychologically have divorced myself so much from the two parties, and fully understanding they're puppets that I can't even really see Obama, I guess as many other people see him.
00:01:32.000But in closing, in the three and a half minutes we have left in this opening segment, other key points you'd like to make?
00:01:38.000Well, I would say first of all, if you get Obama with the Democratic Congress, you will have the full fury of the fascist corporate state, in terms of that economic austerity,
00:01:49.000Killer austerity, genocidal austerity that I talked about, under green, polar bear, snail daughter auspices, third world solidarity, and possibly even this other question of reparations to that ethnic group, which would also be a very explosive recipe.
00:02:08.000If you get McCain, I would say you get a tired old lame duck, who is going to be a lame duck from the first moment he gets there.
00:02:16.000He'll be quacking in his In his inaugural address.
00:02:20.000And he will be faced by a very hostile Democratic Congress, giving us gridlock.
00:02:24.000This is the best outcome we could get under that scenario, would be the gridlock.
00:02:29.000So, in this sense, McCain is actually a lesser evil than Obama.
00:02:33.000The Democrats try to scare you with McCain.
00:02:36.000They tell you that he's going to put in these fascist judges.
00:02:38.000Well, the Democrats can filibuster those judges if they want to.
00:02:43.000With Mrs. Clinton, I think you get a much more open-ended This is somebody who responds to public opinion through triangulation, but she does respond, and her history during the primaries has been to move more and more towards New Deal positions, at least verbally, and that's what we've got to work with at this point.
00:03:04.000And this would also allow a solution that would not be McCain and not be Obama.
00:03:10.000The merit of Mrs. Clinton is that she's not McCain and she's not Obama, and I think there is going to be a movement to try to Get her nominated and perhaps even to change the outcome of the convention.
00:03:22.000But I think the principle idea is you've got to build a movement.
00:03:27.000The way you build a movement is figure out what the financiers want most and oppose them.
00:03:34.000I would not say that the state is always the enemy.
00:03:38.000I would say financier oligarchs, feudal aristocrats in the more distant past, financiers, finance oligarchs, bankers,
00:03:48.000are the enemy and if you look at the origin of the modern state under somebody like John Gagliazzo Visconti in Milan in the fourteen early about fourteen hundred uh... if you look at it louis the eleventh of france in the fourteen seventies fourteen eighties and henry the seventh of england the earl of richmond the guy who got rid of richard the third what you see there is an alliance of the king that is the state with the bourgeoisie the cities And the peasantry against what?
00:04:16.000Against feudal oligarchs who are already transforming themselves.
00:04:21.000Into banking oligarchs and financiers.
00:04:23.000Well, Webster, my point is that big states are the most abusive throughout history.
00:04:29.000The corrupt come in to suck out of it.
00:04:32.000And then look at what the oligarchs always want.
00:04:35.000They always want a big state as their tool to control populations, destroy middle classes, wage war on the bourgeoisie using the commie terms.
00:04:44.000We'll be right back with Webster Tarpley and your phone calls, right here on the one, the only, Genesis Communications Radio Network.
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00:05:05.000And then look at what the oligarchs always want.
00:05:07.000They always want a big state as their tool to control populations, destroy middle classes, wage war on the bourgeoisie using the commie terms.
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00:08:05.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:09.000Okay, we've got Webster Tarpley with us for the rest of the hour.
00:08:20.000An in-depth interview today with him on the economy, the election. - I mean.
00:08:26.000Almost happened in Russia in future actions.
00:08:33.000Before we go any further, Webster, is there anything else you want to add concerning the geopolitical climate we're in right now before we go to calls?
00:08:44.000I think right now you've got to also look at the situation in Europe because one of Brzezinski's main goals, of course, is to play Europe against Russia, too.
00:08:52.000Normally, Europe would gravitate towards Russia right now because of the oil The natural gas, the epicenter of the current world economic breakdown crisis, the Bush economic depression, is of course London and New York.
00:09:05.000They've been hit hardest, and other people have been hit hard because they've gotten into bed with London and New York.
00:09:12.000There's a whole school of opinion in France, Germany, Italy, on the continent that it's time now to orient towards the Russians, East-West trade, oil for technology, mutually beneficial economic development.
00:09:26.000And what he wants to use is that cordon sanitaire, or that unsanitary cordon of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, and Ukraine to begin cutting off the natural gas.
00:09:39.000The Russians, of course, are going around that by building a pipeline down the middle of the Baltic so that they can deliver guaranteed energy without the Ukrainians and the Poles skimming or cutting it off or provoking or the rest of this stuff.
00:09:52.000Remember, we have to thank, ironically enough, in this terrible situation, we have to thank Sarkozy, of all people, and Merkel for blocking the attempt by Brzezinski to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO as members, or at least get that going, at the last NATO meeting back in April.
00:10:12.000Remember, Obama wants Georgia in NATO, the Washington Post want them in there.
00:10:17.000We've got to say no, no NATO membership for this bandit.
00:10:24.000The other thing is, the Italian position right now, the Italian government is Berlusconi.
00:10:30.000This just shows you what kind of a situation we're in.
00:10:34.000Berlusconi, of course, is this dirty character that everybody knows, but he's also a friend of the Russians, and the Italians have gone very, very far in this East-West trade, oil for technology kind of stuff, and they've got a history of building You know, huge automobile plants, right?
00:10:52.000The Togliatti Fiat plant that built all those Ladas that are still running.
00:10:57.000The Italians are saying, the Foreign Minister Frattini is saying, we cannot transform the European Union into an anti-Russian bloc.
00:11:22.000We had, oh, 500 people in an auditorium with Dario Fo, Nobel Prize for Literature and probably the most read playwright in the world today.
00:11:31.000There's an anthology also called Zero with essays by all sorts of people, among them yours truly.
00:11:39.000So Giulietto Chiesa is leading a publicity effort in Europe to try to show people that Georgia is this a bunch of pawns of Brzezinski.
00:11:50.000So there's also a lot of work to be done vis--vis the Europeans, trying to get them to break away.
00:11:57.000In other words, don't become a lemming for Obama like those poor Germans at the victory column near the Ziegelssohler in the middle of Berlin.
00:12:07.000Don't go with that, but rather dump Obama.
00:12:10.000I'm very glad to say my book, Obama the Postmodern Coup, is coming out in a German edition in the KOPP, which will be hitting the newsstands fairly soon, in time for the Frankfurt Book Fair, among other things.
00:12:28.000I'm also coming out in Japan, because there's another place.
00:12:31.000The Japanese ...have said very clearly, it was a successful summit of Prime Minister Fukuda with President Hu of China.
00:12:38.000The Japanese Defense Minister said, the biggest threat to us is chaos in China.
00:12:43.000This is a way of saying, dear Big New, we will not be a staging area for your attacks on China.
00:12:49.000In Taiwan, the KMT, the Kuomintang Party, has made a comeback, kicking out the US puppets, the DPP, Green Party, or Democratic Progressive Party.
00:12:59.000Get rid of them, put in people who are reasonable, who realize that their future is a rapprochement with China and mutually beneficial trade.
00:13:08.000Okay, well I'm sure I've got to stop you there because I want to give some time to callers.
00:13:12.000I have to say, everything you're saying is accurate about what's happening in the world.
00:13:15.000I don't disagree with about 95% of what you're saying.
00:13:18.000The problem is, there's more to all of this.
00:13:23.000It is a fact that the CIA Back the Communists against the Japanese in China.
00:13:30.000It is a fact now declassified that the CIA, and David Rockefeller's written editorials in the New York Times saying this, wanted the Communist Chinese to come to power so that they could use them in China.
00:13:43.000It is a fact that Armand Hammer and the Rockefellers and the big foundation monies pumped billions into Russia from its founding, overthrowing the czars, for British intelligence in 1917 right through into the 80s.
00:14:00.000And you're right, they attack with both sides, and they're always trying to gobble up republics.
00:14:04.000I mean, you know, they basically attack from all angles, from within, from without, always creating a neo-mercantile system which leaves all nation states weak and vulnerable and basically starving and infighting with regional and religious conflicts.
00:14:19.000I just want to point out that we're not saying China's good or Russia's good or anybody's good here.
00:14:26.000It's that you have this evil global corporate management system that was developed out of London, the city of London.
00:14:37.000I just don't want to oversimplify this where America and England and Israel are the bad guys and everybody else are the good guys.
00:14:44.000All these countries are engaging in oppression and corruption.
00:14:48.000That's the nature of society and I'm just trying to get people to see the bigger picture of how these big tectonic forces are colliding into each other.
00:14:57.000Well, let's look at the heart of the world problem right now is this mass of derivatives, this cancerous mass of kited derivatives.
00:15:05.000And that was a financial weapons system by the central banks while the dollar was still the world reserve currency.
00:15:10.000They made a mad dash to buy up all the real infrastructure of the world, buy up the defense contractors, media of the world, to set up their global corporate empire off of the yoke You know, like an egg off of the sustenance that was the United States.
00:15:25.000Now they want to leave us holding the financial bag for that collapse while they've moved into safe havens, then bring in a third world police state here and use the United States as a military enclave to produce modern Hessian soldiers for the new global corporate state that has shucked any connection to any original nation state.
00:15:47.000But remember now, if we use my estimate of 1 quadrillion, it's probably 1.5 quadrillion, or maybe a lot more.
00:15:55.000Well, it's 6,000 trillion that we know of.
00:15:58.000Well, yes, but I'm saying 1... Well, you want to say 2 quadrillion.
00:16:03.000Fine, 2 quadrillion is ballpark, perfectly good.
00:16:44.000I'm saying now the New World Order, the Anglo-American Empire, as you call it, is moving to that transcendent point where they sit above all the nation-states with their private intelligence networks in Russia, in China, in Israel, in the U.S., just playing us all off against each other.
00:17:01.000I don't believe that they have total world control.
00:17:10.000Dominant up to a point, but fading fast.
00:17:13.000And Obama is really a flight forward, a desperate bid to give this a facelift, to give it a new lease on life.
00:17:19.000And if you block Obama, you're going to be dealing with a severely weakened imperialism.
00:17:23.000under conditions of much greater difficulty in organizing mass extensors.
00:17:27.000Okay, I'm going to skip this break for people behind the scenes watching on PrisonPlanet.tv and listening on the exclusive Infowars.com streams.
00:17:34.000And then at 24 after, I promise, no more pontificating by myself or Webster.
00:17:40.000Steve, Rico, Elliot, Cliff, Jeff, and many others.
00:17:43.000We're going to go right to you in about five minutes.
00:17:45.000But, okay, how does it affect the American people?
00:17:48.000Let's be centered on ourselves for a minute and take the local regional view for North America.
00:17:53.000What is better for the American people?
00:17:56.000For the empire to crumble and fall apart or for us to mindlessly support it?
00:17:59.000Obviously, I believe mindlessly supporting it, they will only rape us that much more financially and physically, and so it is good to let this fall apart.
00:18:09.000I would go with the populists, those prairie farmers back in 1890 meeting in Omaha, and they formulated the Populist Party program, which basically said, A mass movement needs to take over the government and turn it against Rockefeller, Morgan, and the Wall Street group, and I don't think that has changed.
00:20:01.000I don't see that as the meaningful distinction.
00:20:04.000In other words, right now, you've got the question of foreclosures.
00:20:09.000If you leave this to the market, or if you leave it to the stuff we've got in place right now, we're going to have millions and millions of people thrown out of their homes, and we're going to have Millions and millions of domestic refugees and homeless.
00:20:48.000You can do it with a law that simply says derivatives are illegal because they are.
00:20:52.000As they were up until the early 1990s, or my method, tax them out of existence.
00:20:58.000Put a 1% Tobin tax or... And because they're blind shorting, naked shorting, and there's no real money behind it, they won't even belly up for a 1%?
00:21:11.000Well yeah, we're paying, you know, I don't know what the sales tax in Texas is, it's 5% in Maryland, and you don't pay it on groceries.
00:21:18.000In Virginia it's 5 to 7 and you pay it on groceries.
00:21:48.000The United States government, using sovereign economic powers, can tax JPMorgan Chase and say, well, you have 500 million... Well, you said the Tobin tax, and that was introduced as a world tax.
00:22:00.000I have a better way to do it, which is to not just to tax foreign exchange transactions, But to tax all financial turnover.
00:22:16.000If you want the market, that speculation will get even worse.
00:22:19.000Because even the regulatory regime we have, which is a joke, will be gone.
00:22:24.000They'll be gouging you without surcease.
00:22:27.000What you've got to do is to say, alright, you want to speculate, you're going to pay a 1% Well, you can also make it illegal to engage in all this leveraging where they don't even put money in.
00:22:40.000talking about government action dictated by the people against the financiers that's all it comes down to take over the government use it again example webster look at look at government education and what it's done before we didn't have government education of the smartest was a given Now I hear people in stores talking about Russians attacking Georgia in the U.S.
00:22:59.000This is a political watershed that you've got to be aware of.
00:23:06.000And this was by the folly of Johnson, by the Vietnam War, and all the rest.
00:23:11.000What we've had for 40 years after that is the rule of the reactionary Republicans.
00:23:15.000It's the social engineering is what we've had.
00:23:17.000We've had the eugenicist Carrying this out while the bleeding-heart liberals run around saying, help the poor people.
00:23:23.000This is all relevant, but the thing you've got to focus on is production.
00:23:28.000I'm telling you this, any government system you come up with, no matter how well-meaning, will be hijacked by the oligarchs, and it always is.
00:23:34.000Well then, it sounds like we live in a hopelessly fallen world.
00:23:37.000No, if we remove a lot of the taxation mechanisms against us, I'm all for taxing them, but you notice we'll never get that, then... It has been done in the past, and the New Deal was essentially that, and it can be done again.
00:23:49.000Okay, we're coming back to the main transmission right now.
00:23:52.000I want to come in with intro music, folks.
00:24:59.000Steve in Chicago, you're on the air worldwide as we blast out on AM and FM dial across the country, global shortwave at WWCR, the internet at Infowars.com, and of course with now more than 60,000 people a day pulling our free podcast.
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00:25:23.000Webster Tarpley continuing With your analysis, let's get the take of the callers.
00:25:29.000Steve, in Chicago, you're on the air worldwide.
00:25:33.000Well, first of all, I want to say I'm talking to two fine men.
00:25:37.000Secondly, I think that you guys have been turned around backwards on this situation with Russia.
00:25:43.000You didn't even report that last month, it was July 25th, that Putin had threatened the United States with stationing atomic bombers in Cuba.
00:26:13.000I have been saying for the last However many months since this was said, I talk about that every week.
00:26:19.000I talk about their foreign minister saying, if you keep moving weapon systems and troops and training and destabilizing in Poland and in Czech Republic and in Georgia and in Ukraine and in all these areas and in the stands and moving your military in, we're going to start moving nukes near you.
00:27:08.000I can't stand communists or leftism or any of this stuff.
00:27:12.000I'm here trying to give you a real geopolitical view into this.
00:27:15.000Did Georgia not blow the hell out of an entire city and massacre a bunch of Russian troops and peacekeepers out of a clear blue sky where they've been since 1991 in a ceasefire in two areas that have always been part of Russia?
00:28:03.000media line, this is CNN, this is what Bush says, this is what Zalmay Khalilzad says at the United Nations, what McCain says and what Obama says, and it's a big lie.
00:28:18.000The Russian peacekeepers were there under a signed agreement with the Georgian government from 15 years ago.
00:28:23.000And let me add, the Georgians had already been taking pot shots at the Russian troops and citizens, beating people up, killing them in the outlying towns around Ossetia.
00:28:32.000Ethnic cleansing, that's why the Russians had to come in in 1992-93.
00:28:34.000And then let me expand, they shut the water off to Ossetia a month ago and already had them under siege.
00:28:43.000And they basically had a campaign of bombings and assassinations building up to this.
00:28:47.000So it's a cynical, orchestrated plan by Georgia.
00:28:50.000Now, the Russians see it coming, and they say, fine, you want to attack?
00:28:55.000And the minute they attack, they took the bridge and the tunnels.
00:28:57.000But look, Steve, I don't think... I would also add, ultimately, beyond all the details, you want to have your children incinerated in a thermonuclear fireball for the sake of that bandit, that little Hitler, Saakashvili?
00:30:06.000All the media at the footnotes, if you'll just read the bottom of the articles, admit Georgia ran a sneak attack, and he's saying we're making stuff up?
00:30:14.000Robert Kagan, the neocon Robert Kagan in the Washington Post yesterday says, We're not interested in the details of how this started.
00:30:21.000In other words, the massacre of 2,000 people in the middle of the night.
00:30:28.000Well, the Russians had to move in there, or it would have set a precedent for them to start leveraging into Russia proper.
00:30:34.000Imagine, this is direct killing of Russian soldiers.
00:30:38.000Attacking police bases, military bases, blowing the daylights out of them, midnight sneak attack, admitted, then CNN shows the Georgian missile launchers firing and says they're Russian, that's now come out.
00:30:50.000I mean, they treat the public like they're complete idiots, and I guess some of them really want to be lied to.
00:30:56.000This is the same media that brought you 9-11, and the Iraq War, and Obama, and now they're trying to bring you this.
00:31:02.000And also the ones two years ago when the Israelis invaded Lebanon.
00:31:06.000We were supposed to sympathize with the Israelis.
00:31:08.000Yeah, they called that a Lebanese attack.
00:31:14.000Alright, so this is, it's just a fraud, and the first Gulf War, and now the second Gulf War.
00:31:20.000Oh listen, listen, I had a news guy at the local radio station do a show at Syndicated on Sundays, kind of argue with me, and he was going, you're saying Georgia attacked?
00:31:29.000And I'm just going, you know what, I can't deal with this anymore.
00:32:05.000I was going to say, it seems the more things change, the more they stay the same.
00:32:10.000Like, take for example the illegal alien situation.
00:32:15.000In the late 60s, early 70s, all these radical groups were always funded and controlled by big foundations, big money.
00:32:30.000And they were actually encouraged to have problems, to create problems, should I say, so that basically the police would come, the state would come.
00:32:48.000We take on that, and I'll give you a counterpoint or another statement or question after that with Rico in Toronto, then Elliot, Jeff, Cliff, and others.
00:32:54.000We've got to move quick with calls, though, because I want to get a lot of your questions in.
00:33:03.000We were just talking to Rico on the Infowars.com behind the scenes You go to Infowars.com, those specific exclusive streams of the behind-the-scenes.
00:33:16.000He brought up how the big foundations fund La Raza, Mecha, the radical black separatist groups, all of this to get us all fighting with each other and so then they can radicalize peaceful groups So those groups never get true equality or freedom or economic mobility.
00:33:31.000They get neutralized, bitter, and filled with hate.
00:33:37.000This is an absolutely critical theme, and you're absolutely right.
00:33:40.000If you look, first of all, at Obama, he is more than anything else a product of the foundations.
00:33:45.000His mother was an operative for the Ford Foundation.
00:33:48.000Obama has worked for the Gamaliel Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, Gun Control, the Woods Fund, the Annenberg Foundation, playing black parents against the black teachers' union.
00:34:01.000His friend Bernardine Dorn gets huge money from the MacArthur Foundation.
00:34:05.000My research for my next book, which is Barack H. Obama, the Unauthorized Biography, reveals that the Weathermen were actually founded with a Ford Foundation grant.
00:34:16.000Certainly, Floyd McKissick Stokely Carmichael, the worst firebrands, Rap Brown, these characters, the people who opposed Martin Luther King with their incendiary rhetoric, all foundation-funded.
00:34:29.000And as you correctly point out, the worst provocateurs of the Hispanic community, the people who talk this insanity about carving up the United States, they're also foundation-funded.
00:34:39.000Obama has friends like Khalidi and a bunch of others.
00:34:44.000This is a foundation-funded, pro-US wing, of the PLO, among the Native Americans.
00:34:50.000You got a guy like Ward Churchill, who is essentially in the same corner.
00:34:55.000The pervasive activity of these foundations is one of the things that's destroying American society.
00:35:02.000Obama is somebody who says he was a community organizer for the Gamaliel Foundation.
00:35:07.000What he's really saying is, I was a poverty pimp for the foundation world, where the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation dominate.
00:35:15.000This is One of the principal things about Obama, this is what he comes from.
00:35:20.000His world, that stuff about the bitter clingers, the people who cling to religion and guns, and anti-trade, that is the foundation, trilateral point of view.
00:35:30.000You cannot have a president who hates the American people.
00:35:33.000In the case of Obama, he does hate the American people, and therefore he's going to attack This austerity program, with great gusto.
00:35:41.000Unlike Carter, who probably had some Christian scruples about it, Obama will have nothing of the sort, because he's been worshipping in a Ford Foundation church, that Reverend Jeremiah Wright, with Dwight Hopkins as an operative of the Ford Foundation, Reverend Otis Moss got through college with the Ford Foundation, this whole James Cone, black liberation theology, is again, the Ford Foundation Union Theological Seminary School of this stuff.
00:36:06.000And it is designed to perpetuate racial conflict.
00:36:11.000Absolutely, and they fund all these groups, they do it to get everybody at each other's throats, and then the racial tension becomes real, and then it's a dynamo which just builds up force and strength.
00:36:27.000My second point, something you had brought up a couple weeks ago when you were talking about the anthrax letter that the Bush enemy received.
00:37:20.000But you just look at every country and just the thousands of revolutions and all the subterfuge and backstabbing and Machiavellian activity and elites and cloak and dagger.
00:37:29.000And then somehow they taught the American people the last hundred years that none of that exists, everything's fine, go back to sleep, and if we say anything on this show, It's just start looking around you and realizing that when these elites get out of control and these warlords and these banker warlords start fighting with each other, the oligarchy as Webster calls them, when these moneyed noble interests start battling with each other, we don't matter in the equation.
00:38:02.000Only body who knows rich people knows they want even more.
00:38:05.000They want power, they want control, and to deny that there are people that want power and control is to deny history.
00:38:10.000Webster, I want to go to calls quickly, but how did we get to the point, do you think, of the average person, they're now coming out of this delusion and this mesmerized smokescreen, but people to say, oh there's no subterfuge, there's no corruption, there's no influence, there's no behind the scenes, you're a crazy dangerous conspiracy theorist.
00:38:28.000How were they able to inculcate that in people's minds?
00:38:32.000Well, it's a long process of degradation.
00:38:34.000I think that the central question is probably the deindustrialization of the United States initiated by Volcker, under trilateral Carter and Brzezinski auspices, and then continued with the union busting of the Reagan years, the systematic decline in the standard of living.
00:38:51.000So it's about minus two-thirds of what it had been Uh, around 1966.
00:38:56.000And so people are having to work twice as hard just to keep the illusion going, and so they physically are just disconnected, saying, I don't care.
00:39:05.000There's also the, more recently, Obama could not have broken through if the Democratic Party had not been in chaos.
00:39:13.000Pelosi came in with the mandate of stopping the Iraq War, and she brought the... And instead she's ruled with an iron fist, saying no.
00:39:20.000And what we then had is, as soon as that was in power, then Al Gore comes out of the woodwork with his demagogic, fake, global warming campaign.
00:39:29.000To break the momentum against Bush and against the Iraq War, and then by the end of that year you've got Obama deployed into a chaotic Democratic Party.
00:39:39.000Let me stop you, because I want to go to Elliot, Jeff, Cliff, and others, and DJ, but before we do that, I wanted to last hour get into the eugenics angle, which you're a real expert on, Webster.
00:40:39.000The reason for the Trojan War was that there were too many people.
00:40:43.000Too many people were oppressing the breast of Mother Earth, and therefore we had to have the Trojan War to kill off a lot of them.
00:40:51.000In terms of the global warming, I don't need a climatologist to say that this is a fraud.
00:40:56.000As a historian, I can look back to the medieval warm period, 1100-1200.
00:41:02.000When you have grapes growing in England, grapes growing in... What about Iberia Maxim 8,000 years ago, which brought us into the Bronze Age, and the first city-states?
00:41:13.000I mean, it was 10 degrees hotter on average then.
00:41:15.000They have the high scores, there's no doubting it.
00:41:17.000We are well within the band of fluctuation of historical memory.
00:41:22.000The other one, of course, is we have a little Ice Age, around 1600 to 1625, which corresponds to the Spera Minimum and the Maunder Minimum, In the sunspot cycle, it is basically determined by solar activity.
00:41:36.000That's at least a major input, not by human activity at all.
00:41:40.000And in that Little Ice Age, you had the ports of Northern Europe, the ports of Germany and the Netherlands frozen with ice, icebergs.
00:41:47.000So the idea of being a climatologist means you're a charlatan and a fraud, because it's a discipline.
00:41:59.000It's a fake science invented by Al Gore, and all during the Clinton years, if you didn't agree with Al Gore, you would be fired.
00:42:07.000Now come on, he claims he invented the internet too.
00:42:09.000He certainly is the pimp pusher of it, but the Club of Rome in the early 60s said they would use threat of a fake Ice Age or global warming to bring in global taxes.
00:42:18.000And remember, Aurelio Pache, the co-founder, was an old fascist.
00:42:23.000And the other one was Alexander King, who once admitted that the purpose of this was genocide in the third world.
00:42:28.000He said, you know, the reason we preach this, after all, is to block development of the third world.
00:42:35.000And that's in the British Commission on Population, 44 to 49, which was rolled into State Department Memorandum 200.
00:42:42.000Yes, and beyond the 200, remember that this was all institutionalized under Carter, under Muskie, as Global 2000 and Global Futures, under Brzezinski, Trilateral, Rockefeller, So you basically got Kissinger as a puppet of Nelson Rockefeller, Brzezinski as a puppet of David Rockefeller, and that's pretty much the way the thing is run.
00:44:10.000I was on Jordan Maxwell's side, and then I went to one of his lengths.
00:44:14.000And yeah, in In 1983, these two guys, research expert David Dodge and former Baltimore police investigator Tom Dunn, they were in the Belfast Library on the coast of Maine.
00:44:27.000They found a constitution from 1825 And, uh, there was actually a missing, there's a missing 13th Amendment in our Constitution.
00:44:36.000It was ratified in 1819 and has not been repealed.
00:44:40.000There were more than 30 original broadsheets made and quite a few of them are still around.
00:44:48.000Well, I mean, like, it's titles of nobility and honor.
00:44:51.000It says, if any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honor, Yes, speak of the devil.
00:45:05.000John, I sent you that clip from C-SPAN of former Secretary of State Colin Powell telling the reporter that he's a knight commander, order of the bath.
00:45:18.000Yeah, retain any present pension officer or emolument of any kind, whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power Such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States.
00:45:29.000Yes, I'm saying you can't be a foreign agent, basically, which makes sense, and I have a... If I may, I have a question about... Now, I know what you're talking about, and it does exist, and I wrote about this in 1996 in Executive Intelligence Review.
00:46:55.000When Queen Elizabeth II was here in town last year surveying her lands, they had a White House function.
00:47:03.000They were announcing who they were, and much of the administration coming in were being announced by their British titles and giving fealty to the Queenie.
00:47:13.000So I hope that answers your question, Elliot.
00:47:29.000My question is this, Mr. Tarpley, is I read a report several months ago here where China sent word to Illuminati operatives that if they tried to indeed, you know, make any type of move toward China, and it's, shall I say, their friends, which will be Russia and Iran did or friendship packs they have and old obligation deals.
00:47:51.000What will be the next move for the Illuminati now that Bush more or less has gotten punched in the mouth by Putin over this Georgia fiasco and the fact that China plainly stated that any aggression made toward China and the people running the Illuminati would be assassinated?
00:48:13.000Yeah. - I mean, I'm like, I mean, there's two questions there.
00:48:15.000What do you think of Benjamin Fulford, the former Forbes writer who meets with Rockefeller on video and says he's been told by the Asian elite, the mafia, that they know about the population reduction plan and the bioweapon attack plan that Cheney talks about in the PNAC documents, September 2000, Rebuilding America's Defenses.
00:49:27.000The elites are obsessed with the occult.
00:49:29.000The British system, let me finish, please, is masonic, and they really are into this, and they really do govern a lot of what they do according to it.
00:49:38.000Sure, but now you're talking to Scottish Rite Freemasons of London and, you know, God knows other institutions, that they have the Club of the Isles and all sorts of other things.
00:49:48.000But again, this Bavarian thing, this is the crazy part.
00:49:51.000This is what the British themselves put out to say.
00:50:01.000There is a history of secret societies in China.
00:50:04.000For example, Dr. Sun Yat-sen, when he wanted to do the Chinese Revolution in 1911, turned to something called the Red Door Society, the Hongmen Society.
00:50:16.000However, I think this stuff now is, you have to look at this with tremendous skepticism, and here's why.
00:50:23.000Suppose we have the Turkmen Islamic Party setting off some stunt in Beijing now for the Olympics.
00:50:32.000If that's terrorism, either Mexico City 68 or Munich 72 style, you're going to have a wave of international sympathy with China.
00:50:43.000Suppose now the Anglo-Americans have come up with a dialectical or two-phase false... Hold on!
00:50:50.000We're going to do three minutes behind the scenes exclusively at the InfoWars.com streams and PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:51:04.000If you get the US and the British using this Turkmenistan, the tip, the Turkmenistan Islamic Party, And Commander Sayfula that we've seen, pulling a stunt in Beijing, with wet work, with the bodies, then you're going to get international sympathy with China.
00:51:22.000Now suppose, in a second phase of a false flag, to magnify the world effect.
00:51:28.000It's like going from 9-11 to anthrax, which is something, you know, 9-11 is for people in big cities only, high-rises, but anthrax is for anybody who gets the mail every day.
00:51:37.000In other words, everybody in the world, practically, You can imagine a second phase.
00:51:43.000Now suppose the US and the British strike in Beijing.
00:51:46.000And then they say, um, the Chinese secret societies have given a press conference and they come forward and say, that's it.
00:52:01.000We're going to bring down the internet.
00:52:03.000We're going to destroy world financial transactions.
00:52:06.000We're going to paralyze the world through the internet with logic bombs, denial of service, cyber warfare, and so forth.
00:52:14.000This would then begin to turn world hatred and resentment against China in a very, very strong way.
00:52:21.000So, I think if anybody believes that there are omnipotent Chinese secret societies, I don't think they are.
00:52:27.000And everybody knew about the Anglo-Americans being genocidal, you know, going back to this Kissinger Memorandum of 1974 or Or the Carter administration.
00:52:38.000Now, John D. Rockefeller III has been very, in his lifetime, very adamant about this stuff.
00:52:44.000So I don't think it makes any particular sense that there is this war of the secret societies.
00:52:50.000I think this is the kind of a story that I would approach with the greatest care and skepticism, because it lends itself to this kind of a false flag scenario.
00:53:03.000We know that Japan and China under the feudal system was run by secret hereditary societies, and they are dominant in many areas of life today, and so I think to pooh-pooh the reality of it is wrong, but also to give it omnipotence, as you said, I think is to overplay something that is not... Remember, suppose if you had some group saying, you know, we're the new Red Door Society, and we're destroying the Internet, Then the U.S.
00:54:16.000Before we jam in, a few final calls from Webster Tarbley.
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00:55:32.000And in it, it's just a couple sentences long, Ulrich Leutmann at Commerzbank said in a note that he expected the dollar to rise, quote, like a phoenix, quote unquote.
00:55:44.000And he also said that in a very short period of time, quote unquote, sentiment turned by 180 degrees.
00:56:26.000Generally speaking, manufacturing employment in this country is really on its last legs.
00:56:31.000So this contraction, which is expressed in growing unemployment and growing unreported unemployment, those who have given up in despair, we'd have to look at things like freight car loadings and truck loadings.
00:56:58.000The Plunge Protection Team, of course, as everybody knows, props them up with the help of Helicopter Ben Bernanke.
00:57:04.000They've now got the entire Wall Street, be it JPMorgan Chase, Citibank, and Goldman, and Lehman Brothers, and Morgan Stanley, and Merrill, and UBS.
00:57:16.000They're all getting huge injections of Federal Reserve liquidity, and the question is, you know, how long before that becomes generalized hyperinflation on the German 1923 model.
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