Alex Jones Show - August 15, 2008


20080815_Fri_Radio


Episode Stats

Length

30 minutes

Words per Minute

154.1735

Word Count

4,710

Sentence Count

408

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

Ron Paul goes on Alex Jones. Dr. Corsi is blackballed by the corporate media. Michael Chazodowski, Jonathan Ellenhoff, and Bob Chapman join the show to discuss the latest developments in Ukraine, Russia, and the Ukraine crisis.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:02.000 You want answers?
00:00:04.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:13.000 Alex Jones.
00:00:23.000 Welcome, my friends, welcome to this very important Friday edition, the 15th day of August 2008.
00:00:30.000 We're gonna be live here for the next three hours and 59 minutes, 18 seconds.
00:00:36.000 We are going to have wide open phones throughout the day.
00:00:39.000 Professor Michelle Chossodosky, expert on what's happening with Poland, Georgia, Ukraine, Russia, will be joining us for 30 minutes coming up at the Middle of this hour, then Jonathan Ellenhoff, they're reporting that they're going to be putting people in a little makeshift FEMA camp as they did at the RNC in 2004 that we covered.
00:01:02.000 He was able to successfully sneak in to the facility and get video of that.
00:01:08.000 Jonathan Ellenhoff, we are Change Colorado, now with something like 500 members.
00:01:14.000 Really exploding that one chapter.
00:01:17.000 And then, of course, popping in with us multiple times weekly to track all the economic and geopolitical developments, as well as Russia, Bob Chapman with us in the fourth hour today.
00:01:25.000 So, Michael Chazodowski, Jonathan Elimov, and Bob Chapman all on the show, on the transmission for you today.
00:01:34.000 Huge developments with the Russian escalation, kicking off the old Cold War, but in a hotter, more dangerous, more accelerated way.
00:01:47.000 Thank you.
00:01:48.000 Russia, Poland risk attacks because of U.S. missiles.
00:01:52.000 Now, that is the Associated Press headline.
00:01:58.000 A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a U.S. missile interceptor base exposes the ex-communist nation to attack, possibly by nuclear weapons, the Interfax News Agency reported.
00:02:12.000 Also, top geopolitical author, U.S. risking nuclear war with Russia.
00:02:18.000 Neocons up nuclear war anti with Poland missile shield excellent analysis from Kurt Nemo and Infowars.com So Paul Watson's done a story top geopolitical author US first nuclear war with Russia.
00:02:31.000 That's a prison planet calm and Covering the same story, but from different perspective and angle neocons up nuclear war anti with Poland missile shield Infowars.com Kurt Nemo Russia seizes arsenal of US weapons in Georgia Dow Jones News is reporting.
00:02:51.000 Russia keeps up its blockade of strategic Georgian city.
00:02:56.000 Obama fanatic slam author for questioning 9-11 truth.
00:03:01.000 Well, the New York Times also slammed myself.
00:03:04.000 Yours truly, this radio talk show host and investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker.
00:03:12.000 So a huge We'll be going over that.
00:03:21.000 Dr. Corsi, when I saw this last night, saw this story in the New York Times, another one today, bashing him for going on the vicious, evil Alex Jones show.
00:03:31.000 I mean, I am blacklisted, folks.
00:03:33.000 I mean, they have Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, just scores of publications on an almost daily basis now.
00:03:46.000 Ron Paul goes on Alex Jones!
00:03:49.000 Dr. Corsi goes on Alex Jones!
00:03:53.000 I mean, you talk about being blackballed to the blacklist.
00:03:55.000 Man, I am proud to be numero uno!
00:03:59.000 The black sheep, the wicked devil, according to the corporate whore media.
00:04:05.000 And Corsi's publicist calls us today and said, he's not coming on now.
00:04:09.000 We had a scheduling problem.
00:04:11.000 He'll just have to be on next week.
00:04:13.000 Well, I said, Trey, that's a complete bull.
00:04:15.000 That's political.
00:04:16.000 I said, you call...
00:04:18.000 Scorsese's always asking to come on.
00:04:21.000 I could use another word, but we like having him begging to come on.
00:04:24.000 Because he knows it's a big show.
00:04:25.000 But he'll tell you, bigger response here than any other show he goes on.
00:04:28.000 That means TV, Fox, Glenn Beck, any of it.
00:04:31.000 Because we've got active listeners.
00:04:32.000 Not just millions, but active listeners.
00:04:35.000 But we talked to Scorsese this morning.
00:04:37.000 going to tell you that the behind the scenes intrigue going on here.
00:04:42.000 But look, first I've got to cover Russia and what's happening there.
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00:08:00.000 Government cover-ups.
00:08:02.000 You want answers?
00:08:04.000 Well, so does he.
00:08:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:31.000 Okay, we're going to break down what's happening with Russia right now.
00:08:35.000 Then we're going to look in more depth into that with...
00:08:38.000 into more depth into that subject with Professor Michelle Chassidashi coming up in about 25 minutes.
00:08:44.000 Russia, Poland risk attacks because of U.S. missile shield.
00:08:50.000 Now, my detractors, whenever I read one of these AP articles, they go out and create YouTube videos and things saying that I don't want to talk about myself here, but we have to.
00:09:00.000 This show is coming under so much attack now from the mainstream media, the New York Times, Fox News, CNN.
00:09:08.000 We're coming under such incredible attack from operatives on the internet and their fellow travelers and well-meaning idiots that are sucked into it that I just have to, I guess, caveat mention here that I'm reading the Associated Press.
00:09:23.000 What they do is they edit this together with me saying other incendiary things out of the news and then make it sound like I'm saying that Russia's nuked us or launched missiles at us.
00:09:33.000 There's the famous case of ABC News, and it was December 31st, 1999, and I'm on Michael Trudeau's radio show, back when he had a show on the station, one of the hosts here.
00:09:51.000 I was co-hosting throughout the day with continual coverage now, and she runs in and says, ABC News is saying a missile's been fired from Russia.
00:09:58.000 And I ran out, and there was ABC News and Peter Jennings saying, yes, NORAD is saying a missile has been fired from Russia, out of Chechnya.
00:10:08.000 We don't know if it's intercontinental ballistic or theater missile, intermediate range, but NORAD is on the highest alert.
00:10:16.000 And I come back on air and say, okay, this is what ABC News said.
00:10:23.000 And then, people knowing, the government knowing, their operatives knowing, and plus people that are just flat out jealous of me for some reason, knowing the public has no memory, knowing they have no grasp of that, months later said,
00:10:39.000 look, Alex Jones claimed nukes were launched from Russia against the U.S. Thirty minutes after they announced that some missile's been fired, we don't know if it's a nuke, we don't know if it's conventional, we don't know what range missile it is, they came out with a weird press conference with Russians at NORAD,
00:10:57.000 uh, and the Pentagon, the, uh, SAC-based commanders, was there in Colorado Springs, came out and said, okay, it was a Scud missile launch in the Chechen War that got high enough up Uh, to look like an ICBM, no problem.
00:11:14.000 And it turns out that was probably some type of weird drill or test of NORAD while the Russians were there.
00:11:20.000 In fact, that leaked out in the media that that's probably what it was to show the Russians, see, we can even see one of your scuds being launched.
00:11:26.000 And they were all laughing and joking and smiling during the press conference like it was some type of joke on the public.
00:11:31.000 Something went on there.
00:11:34.000 Doesn't matter.
00:11:34.000 People misrepresent it.
00:11:35.000 And I hate to even give my ideas.
00:11:37.000 They're gonna do it anyways.
00:11:38.000 They've already done this last week.
00:11:42.000 There are people saying I made up that there's even a war over there in Georgia.
00:11:45.000 I mean, and you laugh at that, but remember the general public doesn't know where Russia is.
00:11:50.000 They don't know anything.
00:11:52.000 And so the government and their operatives, they target people who don't know any better.
00:11:59.000 They target people who have no grasp of reality.
00:12:03.000 Now, I shouldn't have prefaced this.
00:12:05.000 It doesn't matter.
00:12:06.000 I just realized when I cover the Associated Press that It could be edited together later, and it probably will.
00:12:12.000 It shocks me on YouTube.
00:12:14.000 I mean, they'll edit me together saying I hate America, death to America, when I was quoting neocons, and then they'll go say I said that, and then people buy it.
00:12:24.000 I mean, they revel in deception.
00:12:28.000 They revel it.
00:12:29.000 But those that practice this deception, that's the reason the newspapers are down by over 60% circulation, why TV's imploding, Why mainstream news admits that they're losing all credibility and most of their viewers, because the public may be dumbed down, a large segment of them, the majority. But even the dumbed down public doesn't trust you anymore.
00:12:50.000 So you're spoiling your own dirty little nest and uh...
00:12:56.000 it's just incredible.
00:12:58.000 People then also say, well you say the mainstream media lies, you say the mainstream media distorts, you say they spin, they abscond with the truth.
00:13:06.000 Why do you then quote them so much?
00:13:08.000 Well, there's different types of propaganda, different types of media.
00:13:14.000 And we look at media from different angles.
00:13:17.000 And so we can look at Russian, German, Dutch, Japanese, Iraqi, French.
00:13:23.000 We can watch the raw video feeds and then we get a clear picture of what indeed happened.
00:13:27.000 It takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of research, it takes a lot of hard work.
00:13:34.000 But we told you day one that Georgia attacked Ossetia.
00:13:41.000 Now that the details are out, it turns out for weeks the Georgian military was just randomly shelling civilians in Ossetia to turn the water off.
00:13:54.000 So it was already siege over there.
00:13:56.000 And then Georgian peacekeepers with the UN force made up of Russians, Europeans, Western Europeans and the contingent from around the world and Georgians, the Georgians opened fire inside the bases.
00:14:12.000 They ran a sneak attack.
00:14:13.000 I mean, it's now admitted they came up behind their fellow peacekeepers in the same uniforms and stabbed them in the backs, not figuratively, literally.
00:14:24.000 Grabbed the mouth in the kidney, rotated, slit the throat, choking them with tourniquets.
00:14:31.000 That's now confirmed.
00:14:34.000 When, uh, Russian peacekeepers would run out of their barracks once they were under bombardment, the Georgians were set up inside their own base.
00:14:42.000 But the Georgian peacekeepers had already gotten together beforehand, this is the prim meditatedness of it, and mowed them down as they were running out of their buildings.
00:14:52.000 I mean, a total covert sneak attack.
00:14:57.000 A coup d'etat against Ossetia.
00:15:01.000 In violation of the 1992 Accords.
00:15:06.000 And then U.S. Special Forces, trainers, Israelis, Ukrainians, backing up Georgians, went house to house in scores of towns and cities, murdering people en masse.
00:15:16.000 And now the numbers are coming out.
00:15:17.000 It's well above 2,000.
00:15:22.000 Little towns, villages, stand-alone farmhouses.
00:15:25.000 They go in, the video's all over the foreign, European, and Russian news, never on the U.S. news.
00:15:31.000 And it just shows dead bodies.
00:15:33.000 We have a Fox News clip where he's got these Americans on who happen to be over there visiting.
00:15:37.000 And he says, so the Russians were attacking and killing you.
00:15:39.000 And they go, no, no, the Georgians attacked us.
00:15:42.000 Thank you, Russia, for saving us.
00:15:44.000 They were coming door-to-door, killing us.
00:15:45.000 We barely got out.
00:15:46.000 If the Russians wouldn't have come in, they would have killed us.
00:15:49.000 And they go, oh, we gotta go to commercial.
00:15:54.000 And they come back and say, that's what Russia wants you to think.
00:15:58.000 Shepard Smith, or whatever his name is, Hammerhead's name is.
00:16:03.000 The guy's got the eyes on the side of his head.
00:16:07.000 Poland risk attack because of U.S. missiles.
00:16:14.000 A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a U.S. missile interceptor base exposed the ex-communist nation to attack possible by nuclear weapons.
00:16:22.000 Interfax News Agency reported.
00:16:24.000 You can read what the top general said two days ago.
00:16:27.000 We reported it here two days ago and yesterday.
00:16:29.000 You can just go read the full Russian transcript or watch the video translated.
00:16:33.000 It's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:16:38.000 But he laid out, look, here's the NATO doctrine.
00:16:40.000 He read from it.
00:16:41.000 They say since 2000 they have a preemptive strike on Russia.
00:16:44.000 They're encircling us with what they call a missile defense shield, but it's an anti-missile system so that if they begin nuking us or bombing us from the air or using cruise missiles and we try to strike back, This destroys the concept of mad and the Russian general said we would like to go back to mutually assured destruction where of Any one party sneak attacks the other They will then be destroyed by reciprocal attacks But now you're rolling Anti-missile systems
00:17:15.000 in right up to our borders so that you can sneak attack us and if we try to counter-strike You've got anti-missile missiles Surface-to-air Anti-missile missiles.
00:17:28.000 And they said, please, we don't want this doctrine.
00:17:30.000 We don't like it.
00:17:31.000 You're encircling us.
00:17:32.000 You're sneak attacking us.
00:17:33.000 He looks totally grave.
00:17:35.000 This isn't an act.
00:17:36.000 I mean, they're being legitimate.
00:17:38.000 You watch our generals.
00:17:39.000 They're a bunch of primping, arrogant, lying scum, on average.
00:17:43.000 Nothing but lies comes out of their mouth.
00:17:45.000 And I've been analyzing Russia, folks.
00:17:46.000 They've been doing nothing but telling the truth.
00:17:48.000 I have a responsibility to come here and tell you, I've been studying this six, seven hours a day.
00:17:53.000 Two, three hours in the morning.
00:17:54.000 Three, four hours at night.
00:17:56.000 I got a staff of a few people looking all this up.
00:17:59.000 Well, I mean, it is a fact.
00:18:00.000 The Russians are being truthful.
00:18:04.000 And the United States and NATO and Israel are lying about everything.
00:18:08.000 It is incredible.
00:18:10.000 I mean, the Georgian president went on TV Friday and said, we're under attack.
00:18:15.000 A sneak attack by Russia for no reason.
00:18:17.000 And our news all announced it.
00:18:19.000 For five minutes when we first put the TV on.
00:18:23.000 During the show.
00:18:25.000 And all the headlines said, Russia attacks Georgia.
00:18:27.000 I said, wow, Russia's gone to Georgia.
00:18:29.000 I know U.S. forces were there.
00:18:30.000 I know they were trying to take over an area, but man, this is incredible.
00:18:33.000 And then five minutes later, we were able to get it right and go, wait a minute, all these articles have been at the bottom after a sneak attack by Georgia.
00:18:39.000 But Mikhail Shashvili, he goes on TV and says, we're under attack, help us!
00:18:45.000 Oh, it's horrible!
00:18:46.000 Oh my God, out of the blue, no reason, sneak attack!
00:18:53.000 Meanwhile, he's still saying Russian forces are in the center of the country when they pull back as they said they do.
00:18:58.000 He's lying there.
00:19:00.000 Nothing he says has any connection to reality.
00:19:04.000 And I see a scared Russian general.
00:19:07.000 And by scared, you know, he's a big old, big guy, old man.
00:19:10.000 He's saying, look, you're encircling us with weapons.
00:19:13.000 NATO's doctrine is a sneak nuke attack on us, and that is their doctrine since 2000.
00:19:18.000 He said, stop it!
00:19:20.000 Stop encircling us with nukes!
00:19:24.000 What do you think caused the Cuban Missile Crisis?
00:19:26.000 When the U.S. moved nukes into Turkey.
00:19:29.000 But our media was so controlled, no one was ever told that.
00:19:32.000 Folks, I love my children.
00:19:34.000 I don't want World War III.
00:19:37.000 And they're now escalating in Poland, escalating in Ukraine, saying they may start fights on the Russian border.
00:19:44.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is war against Russia!
00:19:48.000 We'll be right back.
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00:23:55.000 Headline, top geopolitical author, U.S. risks nuclear war with Russia.
00:23:59.000 We're going to play that clip later.
00:24:01.000 Russia says Poland risks nuclear attack because of U.S. missiles being moved in around them.
00:24:06.000 Let's go to the Russian top foreign minister in a press conference yesterday.
00:24:12.000 You'll hear it translated into English.
00:24:14.000 And I'm just going to play about four minutes of this.
00:24:16.000 He's totally truthful.
00:24:17.000 Everything he says is the truth.
00:24:19.000 We verified it independently.
00:24:21.000 And even in the mainstream news, in the bottom of the articles, they admit all this, but they lie in the tops of the articles.
00:24:26.000 Here it is.
00:24:31.000 I'm sure Saakashvili can no longer be a responsible partner in talks because everything this man has been saying recently doesn't correspond to a single fact.
00:24:40.000 As for the political assessments he makes based on lies he tells daily, they're absolutely disturbing.
00:24:46.000 I'm sure he is a provocator.
00:24:48.000 The man who traitorously gave orders to start the mass shelling of cities with multiple rocket launchers, to make artillery strikes and airstrikes on civilian areas of Tsiganvali, speaks from TV screens showing off with an EU flag in the background saying he was defending American values here.
00:25:05.000 I believe it is obvious to everyone that these statements are cynical.
00:25:09.000 Those who try to defend him understand that it is a losing game.
00:25:14.000 Who is the contact person in Georgia then?
00:25:16.000 That Georgia remains a party in the talks, if you do not see Saakashvili as a negotiator?
00:25:23.000 Sometimes this question has no answer at all.
00:25:26.000 For example, yesterday, a need emerged to have another conversation with the Georgian Foreign Minister Saakashvili, who had been in contact over the last days on the phone.
00:25:35.000 Yesterday it took several hours to get her at least on one of the phone numbers of the Georgian Foreign Ministry, who talked with her.
00:25:42.000 So we have communications channels.
00:25:44.000 And my deputy is in constant contact with his counterpart in the Georgian Foreign Ministry.
00:25:48.000 So we keep talking.
00:25:51.000 Mr. Lavrov, concerning Georgia's territorial integrity and the future status of South Ossetia and of Khazia, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, when speaking with the BBC, said that it could be discussed.
00:26:04.000 So the issue is not out of the scope of discussions?
00:26:07.000 Absolutely. You know, Michael Kalaich Sakhaševili, when he...
00:26:13.000 Of course, when Mikhail Saakashvili became president for the first time, his means of coming to power in Georgia was quite original.
00:26:20.000 Not through elections, it was in 2003.
00:26:23.000 From his first days as president, he has been saying his goal is to reinstate Georgia's territorial integrity.
00:26:29.000 In other words, to settle conflicts in South Ossetia and Abkhazia that go back to the past and deep into history.
00:26:36.000 You can see how it has all been developing.
00:26:38.000 But what caused the situation in recent years originates from decisions by the first president of an independent Georgia after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
00:26:46.000 It was Mr. Gamsakhurdia who issued a motto, Georgia for Georgians.
00:26:51.000 He sent Georgian troops to Sukhumi and Tskhinvali when he was annoyed by the Abkhazian South Ossetian protest against his decision to abolish their autonomies.
00:26:59.000 The war started.
00:27:01.000 You know what happened next?
00:27:02.000 The Georgian troops were dislodged.
00:27:04.000 And peacekeeping mechanisms were agreed then with the help of Russia, who paid with the blood of their soldiers for that.
00:27:10.000 Peacekeeping and negotiating structures and mechanisms were agreed.
00:27:14.000 We hoped that would allow decision-making that would help preserve Georgia as a single state.
00:27:19.000 At the same time, they provided for the rights and freedoms of South Ossetians and Abkhazians, based on the principles of autonomies.
00:27:25.000 The fact that Mr.
00:27:26.000 Saakashvili has tried many times to get rid of these negotiating mechanisms, violated agreements reached in this framework, and made attempts to settle the conflicts by force speaks for itself.
00:27:37.000 As for methods today's leader of Georgia uses to fulfill his mission of gatherer of Georgian lands, I have brought a quotation with me.
00:27:45.000 One of the journalists told me that Saakashvili was speaking live on February 25th, 2006.
00:27:50.000 He said, "I will not give orders to launch a military operation.
00:27:53.000 I do not want any people to die because the repercussions of blood spilled in the Caucasus will last not only for decades, but for centuries.
00:28:01.000 We will reach the goal through talks and consultations.
00:28:05.000 So it's clear he told a lie.
00:28:07.000 But one thing he got right.
00:28:09.000 The consequences will last for centuries, not decades.
00:28:12.000 So we can now start counting centuries from August the 8th, 2008.
00:28:17.000 The wounds Saakashvili has inflicted are deep, and the healing process will be long.
00:28:22.000 What we've kept telling Mr. Saakashvili all these years is that he should learn to speak patiently and respectfully to the people whom he considers to be his citizens, whom he considers to be his compatriots.
00:28:33.000 He has definitely failed to do that.
00:28:35.000 You know what he has done instead?
00:28:37.000 Mr. Saakashvili is causing great damage not only to South Ossetians and Abkhazians, but also to Georgians, his own people, if ethnic terms are to be used.
00:28:46.000 What did he do for the Georgian state as a result of this adventure?
00:28:50.000 Before that, Georgian enclaves in South Ossetian territory, in spite of all the problems and difficulties.
00:28:56.000 Georgian people used to live there.
00:28:58.000 The peacekeeping forces included a Georgian battalion alongside a Russian and South Ossetian one.
00:29:04.000 He was really present in South Ossetia.
00:29:06.000 He could have used it to increase trust and dialogue and communication on how to settle those problems together.
00:29:12.000 Such an agreement was reached at the Joint Control Commission a year and a half ago on forming a joint South Ossetian working group to develop the settlement plan.
00:29:21.000 Then he just cancelled that agreement.
00:29:23.000 He could have worked honestly within the existing format, which would have definitely taken a long time, but it was the only way towards any kind of resolution.
00:29:29.000 All right, we'll be right back with Michelle Chosodosky, and I'm going to finish up some of these clips as well.
00:29:34.000 We'll be right back.
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