Alex Jones Show - August 22, 2008


20080822_Fri_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

57 minutes

Words per Minute

156.37619

Word Count

9,062

Sentence Count

706

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

The International Forecaster's Bob Chapman joins Alex to discuss the recent events in Georgia and Russia, the new NIST report on WTC7, and much, much more! Subscribe to Extraterrestrial to get immediate access to all new episodes.


Transcript

00:00:03.000 All right, folks, we are strapped in over at PrisonPlanet.tv with a live video feed.
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00:00:22.000 And you get to see Alex's crazy eye in the video camera right now.
00:00:26.000 Joining us for the next half hour is TheInternationalForecaster.com's own Bob Chapman.
00:00:34.000 Oh Alex, I love it when he stops by.
00:00:37.000 And really I want to get his take on global events from Georgia to Russia to even this new NIST report on WTC7.
00:00:45.000 Thanks for joining us, Bob.
00:00:47.000 Well thank you for having me again.
00:00:49.000 Well, it's always a pleasure, and you've become quite a regular on the show because you have such great analysis.
00:00:55.000 I really want to get your take on the last week's activities with Georgia and Russia.
00:01:01.000 I mean, the mainstream media is still saying Russia attacked Georgia, they're the aggressors, the bear is back.
00:01:07.000 Meanwhile, there's been a slight de-escalation in the fighting over there.
00:01:11.000 Where do you think this is all headed, Bob?
00:01:15.000 Well, first of all, Georgia, or I should say the United States and Israel were the attackers.
00:01:21.000 And when Russian forces were brought in, they ran.
00:01:25.000 I don't know about the Americans and the Israelis, but I know the Georgians ran.
00:01:31.000 And so they invaded.
00:01:33.000 Yeah, they invaded South Ossetia.
00:01:36.000 There's no doubt about it.
00:01:37.000 A little 12-year-old American girl went on Fox and said, hey, we were in South Ossetia.
00:01:41.000 Georgia attacked us.
00:01:43.000 It's pretty much admitted in a lot of these mainstream articles, but it's during the bottom or the middle of the article, and then they just blatantly say that Russia is the aggressor no matter what.
00:01:55.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:01:57.000 That's unfortunate, but in a way it's fortunate in as much as the public knows different, and all they're doing is losing more credibility.
00:02:05.000 The question is where we're going.
00:02:06.000 Well, first of all, this is going to put a dent in NATO.
00:02:09.000 I don't think that George is going to be an immediate candidate for NATO.
00:02:16.000 I think NATO has lost a lot of credibility by standing by and allowing this to happen.
00:02:26.000 The Russians were peacekeepers and it was blatant invasion what went on.
00:02:33.000 I mean, I can't think of what they were thinking of in Washington and Tel Aviv, never mind in Georgia.
00:02:41.000 And so I think other nations in the area are going to be more reluctant to deal with the United States, NATO, Israel, Georgia, etc.
00:02:55.000 And so Russia is going to make big inroads.
00:02:59.000 Last Saturday, I can't think of the name of the country, but Turkmenistan signed a deal with Russia to send their natural gas via Russian pipelines.
00:03:17.000 That was the gas that, we'll call it the American Consortium, wanted to send through Georgia's south To Turkey, and then on to Haifa.
00:03:30.000 And so the second pipeline for gas is kind of out of the question now.
00:03:36.000 Now I understand that Kyrgyzstan wants to divert their oil from the way that they're shipping it through Russian pipelines as well.
00:03:47.000 And so that's oil that will not be coming down through the Caspian Basin.
00:03:51.000 That could have been eligible to the other pipeline.
00:03:54.000 Well, is that going to affect the price here in America, Bob?
00:03:58.000 Sure.
00:03:58.000 You do believe it's going to affect the price here.
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00:07:33.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
00:07:40.000 It is the Alex Jones Show.
00:07:42.000 I am Jason Bermas, sitting in.
00:07:44.000 It's one last week.
00:07:45.000 I'll be here until next Thursday, and then it's back to New York for me.
00:07:48.000 We're going to be covering the DNC with live feeds over at InfoWars.com of Alex Jones and others on the InfoWars team.
00:07:56.000 Really looking forward to it.
00:07:58.000 But right now we're talking to Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com, and we were talking about No, I really don't.
00:08:05.000 There's multiple sources.
00:08:06.000 how America seems to be losing control of these pipelines, and you think that this is going to affect the price of gas in this country.
00:08:12.000 No, I really don't.
00:08:14.000 There's multiple sources.
00:08:16.000 It'll affect the ability of oil companies from the Netherlands, England, France, and the United States from getting more supply, and that could be an issue with all the problems that are going and that could be an issue with all the problems that are going And the diminishing exports of oil from Mexico.
00:08:41.000 So, But I don't think at this point all of that is a factor in the big picture of oil.
00:08:50.000 And so I discount that.
00:08:54.000 Oil, it's the fundamentals more than anything else.
00:08:57.000 Yes, there has been excessive speculation and that's been taken care of by the market itself.
00:09:05.000 And part of that was the Um, inability of speculators to continue to be able to borrow as much money as they'd like to, and that's called a deleveraging process.
00:09:15.000 And it was natural that a correction should have taken place.
00:09:19.000 Unfortunately, they took gold and silver down with them, although they have rallied back somewhat, as have the commodities.
00:09:28.000 But I think both groups are looking for a bottom in here.
00:09:33.000 And I had previously said I expected somewhere between 1 and 120 on oil as a support level, and I think that's what we're getting.
00:09:43.000 To go on with the situation with Russia and others, I think Russia was underestimated.
00:09:52.000 I don't think that Zbigniew Brzezinski thought that Russia would move on Georgia, which they did.
00:10:00.000 And they are showing no fear, if you may.
00:10:05.000 And I think the relationship with NATO is over.
00:10:08.000 I think the Israelis are going to suffer from this in as much as the Russians were very cooperative in helping them try to discern what was going on in a nuclear basis with Iran.
00:10:24.000 And that'll all be shut down.
00:10:27.000 So Israel isn't going to have that opportunity in the future because of their actions and the aggression that occurred by Georgia.
00:10:36.000 They had been training and supplying weapons along with the United States for the last six years.
00:10:42.000 And their efforts didn't turn out too well because they had as good as equipment in Georgia, if not better than what the Russians had.
00:10:52.000 I think that foreign policy is going to change tremendously.
00:10:56.000 I think Europe has seen that the U.S.
00:11:00.000 has gone off with Israel, and what I would call another cockamamie idea, and they've made fools out of themselves again.
00:11:08.000 And Europe's saying, hey, you know, these guys supply one-third of our gas to Western Europe, I don't think we ought to go along with these insane ideas anymore.
00:11:20.000 And so I think America has lost great credence with the Western nations in Europe.
00:11:27.000 And Europe's concerned, and they should be, not only because of the gas situation, but Russia is the neighbor.
00:11:34.000 And if things get nasty, they're going to get hit first.
00:11:38.000 I think this could lead to the breakup of NATO as well.
00:11:42.000 And maybe something would replace it, but I think NATO is pretty much done for.
00:11:49.000 So you think NATO is going to break up?
00:11:50.000 I don't think most people have seen that yet.
00:11:53.000 So you think NATO is going to break up?
00:11:54.000 Because it's surrounding Russia on the U.S.' 's behalf right now, and now we have this conflict?
00:11:54.000 Why?
00:11:59.000 I mean, do you see a restructuring of that Russian region altogether, South Ossetia, Georgia?
00:12:05.000 Well, that could be.
00:12:06.000 That could happen.
00:12:07.000 It all depends on how hard the U.S.
00:12:10.000 pushes.
00:12:11.000 Like, if in the Ukraine, if they decide, Ukraine decides to put some heat on Russian shipping, which they have a 17-year lease left, then Russia's just going to take them over.
00:12:28.000 They're not going to fool around with them.
00:12:30.000 And any other And you don't think someone like NATO would get involved?
00:12:35.000 The country in the area that causes problems, they're going to bowl against them.
00:12:40.000 The US, with the help of these NGOs, these fronts by George Soros, those are non-governmental organizations, they've really corrupted the political system in many of those former Soviet countries.
00:12:55.000 And they, Soros and the CIA, etc., MI6, have been able to Essentially appoint their own people to run those governments.
00:13:08.000 And that's going to change because I don't think that the people in Ukraine are going to want to tangle with the Russians, nor in any other Baltic state.
00:13:17.000 And so I think the Americans have lost credibility.
00:13:21.000 I think NATO will break up.
00:13:23.000 I think the Americans are going to be asked to leave Germany.
00:13:27.000 And so there's a lot of things going to happen through the stupidity of these people.
00:13:32.000 Well, so do you think that this is really just another indication of the decline of the American empire?
00:13:38.000 Do you really think that America is not going to go kicking and screaming and try to set off another attack or another conflict?
00:13:47.000 Do you really think that they're just going to back off?
00:13:51.000 Well, I think there's a good chance of another conflict.
00:13:54.000 There's several spots, and Kosovo is one of them.
00:13:59.000 It's a transit point for narcotics from out of Afghanistan by the CIA to Western Europe and the rest of the world.
00:14:08.000 And that could be a catalyst.
00:14:13.000 You could also have an eventual extension into Iran, but I rather doubt it.
00:14:21.000 I think that just the winding down of what's going on in the Middle East is going to hurt American foreign policy.
00:14:30.000 But I don't really look at things in that light.
00:14:34.000 I look at them in the light of who's behind the scenes running the show.
00:14:39.000 And it's obvious, even though you hear all of this thunder and lightning about Barack Obama, the Illuminati wants Mr. McCain in there.
00:14:48.000 And it's very important to watch out for who the vice president candidate will be.
00:14:54.000 And if they are elected, Mr. McCain is an elderly man, like myself, I might add.
00:15:01.000 And he might be asked to step down, which he would, for this vice presidential candidate.
00:15:07.000 So it's very important who this candidate is.
00:15:11.000 Whether they can control that candidate or not.
00:15:15.000 Or whether they have to go the assassination route like they do with John Kennedy and others.
00:15:20.000 And so, it's very complex.
00:15:23.000 And it's hard to reach out into the future and come up with solutions or answers because there's so many things that could happen.
00:15:33.000 But they're all bad, and that's unfortunate.
00:15:36.000 And so, I see Russia becoming a greater industrial, economic, and financial power.
00:15:44.000 And they do hold a lot of U.S.
00:15:48.000 government securities, probably something in the vicinity of about $160 or $170 billion.
00:15:59.000 There are others like China who own more, but that's a pretty heavy hammer.
00:16:04.000 And as you just saw, China used underage athletes, overage athletes, in the competitions in some of the categories.
00:16:14.000 And quickly, the others at the competition said, oh, no problem.
00:16:19.000 We believe what China's telling us.
00:16:22.000 And the real reason behind that is that China probably told them, if you don't shut up, you're going to eat a lot of paper.
00:16:28.000 And so they've got a hammer over the United States financially as well.
00:16:33.000 And I think America's in deep trouble.
00:16:36.000 And the world is, for that matter.
00:16:39.000 And the adversaries will be the BRIC nations, which China, Russia, India, Venezuela, and so on.
00:16:46.000 Well, we talked about China really early in the show, and I'm glad that you shifted gears there.
00:16:50.000 I really want to get your take on where China is headed.
00:16:54.000 I mean, we had Benjamin Fulford on in the first hour.
00:16:57.000 You know, he was defending the military police state that is China, you know, that they don't have a separation.
00:17:02.000 He was denying that they were still harvesting organs there.
00:17:06.000 He said they were on the verge of ending one-child policies.
00:17:09.000 Obviously, China is being introduced to the rest of the globe through having the Olympics there this year.
00:17:17.000 I mean, are the Chinese emerging?
00:17:17.000 What is your take?
00:17:20.000 Is this it?
00:17:21.000 Are they the next dominant power in the world?
00:17:25.000 Could be, but they're emerging as a communist power.
00:17:28.000 And the people who are in the party make all the money.
00:17:31.000 And they're going to continue to do the dastardly things that they've done in the past.
00:17:35.000 Not that those, quote, capitalists that we see on Wall Street are any better.
00:17:40.000 But the point here is that they are what they are.
00:17:44.000 And they're going to continue to harvest organs and have one child.
00:17:48.000 And that's understandable.
00:17:52.000 For them, because the population is so large, and the ability to feed and allow them to work is difficult.
00:18:00.000 And the reason China has emerged, I think the main reason, is to bring down the economies of Canada, the United States, and Western Europe to the level Perhaps halfway down to China, and China moves up halfway.
00:18:17.000 So relegated to a second world nation, right?
00:18:20.000 Instead of a third world nation, they wring us down.
00:18:23.000 Well, I'll become second world nations, if you want to put it that way.
00:18:26.000 But the second reason is free trade and globalization.
00:18:31.000 All the transnational corporations will take Walmart, General Electric, particularly IBM.
00:18:37.000 They're making a fortune on this.
00:18:41.000 Export from China to the United States or India to the United States.
00:18:46.000 And that's the second most important reason.
00:18:50.000 And that's what's going on is going to continue to go on unless we stop it.
00:18:54.000 And how do you stop it?
00:18:55.000 You stop it through legislation implementing a reassessment of our policies and trade and implementing tariffs on goods and services.
00:19:09.000 And that's the only way we're going to stop it.
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00:24:13.000 Fox News has learned that some American terrorism investigators fear certain suspects in the September 11th attacks may have managed to stay ahead of them.
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00:24:29.000 Whether it's because they're in intelligence services or what they were doing, I will defer to the Department of Justice and the FBI.
00:24:36.000 there was a report on the george washington bridge that there had been a van stopped there that had explosives mdocs limited an israeli based private telecommunications company It is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an Amdocs record of it.
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00:25:24.000 What about this question of advanced knowledge of what was going to happen on 9-11?
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00:25:35.000 All right, folks, there it is, fabled enemies.
00:25:37.000 And now, jumping back to Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.
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00:26:49.000 In what respect?
00:26:50.000 Financially?
00:26:51.000 Just to prepare, I mean not only financially, but I know that we support storable foods on this show.
00:26:56.000 It just seems like the price of everything is skyrocketing.
00:26:59.000 First of all, I want to say one last thing.
00:27:01.000 The reason for what you saw in Georgia was a distraction.
00:27:06.000 And the distraction was because the economic and financial condition in the western world is dreadful.
00:27:13.000 And they needed to do something, just like they did with Iraq, when they did it, to get people's minds off watching their budget, their inflation, their lack of buying power, etc., and get it focused over in Georgia, and it blew up in their face.
00:27:28.000 So I just wanted to fit that in.
00:27:30.000 I am a great believer, and have been for many years, of having dehydrated, freeze-dried foods filled to the clean water, a method to defend your family, and I think that's very, very important.
00:27:43.000 It's very important to get rid of your credit card debt, in particular, of all debt, revolving debt, Your automobile debt if possible, and then if you have money left over after having done that, then you can think about investing in gold and silver related assets.
00:28:01.000 And that's my take on that.
00:28:04.000 I am very suspect of the banking system.
00:28:07.000 I think there's going to be lots and lots of problems.
00:28:10.000 We have three sites that we recommend.
00:28:12.000 If you email us, we'll send you the site so you can look into the condition of the bank that you're in.
00:28:20.000 And that's very helpful for people.
00:28:23.000 And I think it's a very Basic insurance policy to do these things and if everything goes okay, then that's fine and you can eat the food and probably gain a lot of weight.
00:28:38.000 Yeah, absolutely, and you know, you're only going to save yourself some time and some heartache.
00:28:45.000 I mean, obviously, we are a nation that is just totally and completely dependent on debt, and the way to protect yourself is to get yourself out of that debt before these terrible things do occur.
00:28:55.000 Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com, thank you so much for joining us.
00:29:00.000 We're going to have Richard Gage in the next and final half hour.
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00:32:25.000 Hey, Jason.
00:32:30.000 Yes, sir?
00:32:31.000 We do have Richard Gage.
00:32:32.000 Excellent.
00:32:32.000 Okay.
00:32:33.000 I just love this country stuff that Alex plays sometimes.
00:33:00.000 I guess it's not country, I guess it's a little classic rock.
00:33:03.000 But we are back, it's the Alex Jones Show, I am Jason Burmas, and joining me is one of the founders of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, one of my friends, Richard Gage.
00:33:12.000 He's done just an incredible amount of work to try to expose the lie.
00:33:16.000 That is 9-11, especially in the field of controlled demolitions of 1 and 2 and 7.
00:33:22.000 And now we have this official NIST report, which literally flies in the face of reason.
00:33:27.000 I'm sure that you tuned into the press conference yesterday, Richard.
00:33:30.000 Let's just get your take off the bat.
00:33:34.000 Yeah, I sure did, Jason, and it's great to hear your voice again.
00:33:37.000 NIST laid out the official story That we have a thermal expansion of long-span beams that broke their connections, specifically at column 79, on a few floors, leaving it unbraced for three or four floors.
00:34:00.000 And then, of course, it collapsed, causing a north-south and east-west progressive collapse that brought the whole thing down like a house of cards in about six and a half seconds.
00:34:14.000 And that's the official story, but the 47-story skyscraper brought down to a pile of four stories due to normal office fires.
00:34:26.000 No contribution by the collapsing debris from North Tower.
00:34:32.000 No contribution much at all from diesel fuel fires.
00:34:38.000 These are normal office fires, which for the first time in history have brought down a skyscraper due to fire.
00:34:45.000 Never before, even though we've had longer-lasting, much larger, and much hotter fires, we haven't lost one skyscraper.
00:34:54.000 And all of a sudden, this one is completely leveled, symmetrically, smoothly, with a sudden onset, not characteristic at all to destruction by fire, which is a gradual process, asymmetrical collapses when they occur in wood asymmetrical collapses when they occur in wood frame buildings.
00:35:14.000 Um, but very characteristic of classic explosive controlled demolition.
00:35:24.000 Absolutely.
00:35:25.000 Absolutely.
00:35:26.000 I just want to head back to two points that they now had to admit that the diesel fuel tanks, which was the initial, I guess, explanation on the news that these fuel tanks ignited, they exploded, and that's what brought it down.
00:35:38.000 No way that had anything to do with it.
00:35:40.000 Then they go on, you know, Popular Mechanics' little hit piece before they wrote their book and said that they had photographs and video that no one else had and it showed that 25% of the building was scooped out up to 10 stories of this skyscraper.
00:35:53.000 Now they've recanted that statement and now said that the damage caused by World Trade Center 1 and 2 had little to no significance on this building actually falling.
00:36:03.000 Now they also admit Which just shocks me that more people aren't picking up.
00:36:06.000 They didn't have any debris from World Trade Center Building 7 to actually study, and this was all done with computer models.
00:36:13.000 But from what I've seen of the computer models, it's not like they put in a steel beam with the physical properties of a steel beam.
00:36:19.000 It looks more like, to me, they built a wireframe based on the blueprints of the building and then just animated it in a way that it would support their hypothesis.
00:36:30.000 Yeah, that's what it sure looked like.
00:36:31.000 And the animation that they showed us in the press conference yesterday...
00:36:38.000 Uh, was not even, uh, it didn't, it didn't even complete.
00:36:42.000 They just showed, uh, kind of the initiation of collapse, uh, uh, around column 79.
00:36:48.000 They didn't show, and perhaps they couldn't show, I don't know, the whole building collapsing.
00:36:52.000 It's interesting that once again we have a, a, a stopping at the initiation of collapse like they did for the Twin Towers.
00:37:00.000 They said, uh, admitted later they have no explanation in the Twin Towers how the progressive collapse happened.
00:37:08.000 They can't explain the whole collapse.
00:37:12.000 No, instead they invented a new term called global collapse, which they used for the first time ever in that 10,000-page NIST report on 1 and 2, and now have used again in this new report on World Trade Center Building 7.
00:37:24.000 Yes, and they didn't even mention that the building came down at virtually freefall speed.
00:37:32.000 In other words, there's 40,000 tons of structural steel in this building designed to resist its load for the life of the building.
00:37:41.000 And yet, in order for this building to come down at freefall speed and symmetrically, what you have to do is take out all the columns on a given floor within a tenth of a second of each other, and then synchronistically timed floor by floor.
00:38:00.000 If your timing is off by fractions of a second, controlled demolitions begin to fail.
00:38:07.000 They tip over.
00:38:08.000 Because the law of nature is such that mass falls toward the path of least resistance.
00:38:16.000 And there will always be a natural, organic process, such as a fire collapse, falling to the side because of that.
00:38:27.000 Yeah, it's just insane that it would go through the path of most resistance, and in that model that you're talking about, you can actually watch that on YouTube.
00:38:35.000 NIST has put together a three and a half minute video on behalf of themselves, of course, and then they're showing pieces of that in the CNN footage.
00:38:42.000 But like you say, this central column apparently, through thermal expansion, detaches.
00:38:47.000 I believe it was on the 17th floor, they said, or 13th floor.
00:38:52.000 Well, one of those floors, and then the sides of that center start to collapse in, and like you said, they don't show the facade of the building or the entire structure fall down, but they say that because it was the internal structure first, that's why you see the roof line go, and then that pulled the facade of the building down with it.
00:39:11.000 Now, I've seen fires of just a small steel-reinforced building.
00:39:17.000 It came out about a month, month and a half ago.
00:39:19.000 I think it was about five or six stories long.
00:39:21.000 Yeah, this is an engineered process.
00:39:23.000 Now, wouldn't we have chemical evidence of cutter charges in an explosive-controlled demolition?
00:39:23.000 It can only be that.
00:39:28.000 base of the building, in other words, the steel structure, remains standing, Richard.
00:39:28.000 Yes.
00:39:32.000 Yeah, this is an engineered process.
00:39:35.000 It can only be that.
00:39:37.000 Now, wouldn't we have chemical evidence of cutter charges in an explosive controlled demolition?
00:39:43.000 Yes.
00:39:44.000 It turns out that Dr. Stephen Jones, physicist, finds in the dust this evidence.
00:39:52.000 And before we get to that, because he's looking at the molten metal found in the basements of not only World Trade Center 7, but 1 and 2.
00:40:02.000 So, where does all of this molten metal come from?
00:40:06.000 Seen by the World Trade Center structural engineer, Leslie Robertson himself.
00:40:10.000 Seen by structural engineer Abul Hasan Astani, who had unfettered access to the Fresh Kills landfill.
00:40:16.000 I mean, Ken Holden at the FEMA hearings literally talked about the molten metal dripping from Building 6.
00:40:22.000 And not to mention Ken Holden before FEMA.
00:40:25.000 I mean, Ken Holden at the FEMA hearings literally talked about the molten metal dripping from Building 6.
00:40:30.000 Okay, this was in that entire ground zero area, and we know that molten metal, especially steel and iron, cannot be formed from jet fuel fires or fires that are less than 1,800 degrees.
00:40:44.000 In fact, it takes around 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit for this process to begin, correct?
00:40:49.000 Yeah, that's when steel begins to melt.
00:40:51.000 But it's true that molten stuff is easily 3,500, 4,000 degrees.
00:40:57.000 And so where in the world could that come from?
00:41:00.000 Well, first, they deny that it even exists, the molten metal.
00:41:05.000 John Gross denies that the Moulton Medal exists.
00:41:08.000 He and Cheyenne Thunder yesterday didn't even address the issue.
00:41:14.000 There were dozens of witnesses.
00:41:16.000 Well, we have photographs of it.
00:41:18.000 Where could it come from?
00:41:19.000 Well, one unusual cutter charge that can be used to be placed in a linear-shaped cutter-charge device is thermite.
00:41:30.000 And in this particular patented device, it can eject in millionths of a second.
00:41:35.000 Very, very high-tech stuff.
00:41:38.000 And it turns out that its byproduct, thermite, is molten iron.
00:41:45.000 And it turns out that this is not melted steel, it is molten iron that melted through the steel beams, the ends of which were horribly corroded, as documented actually by FEMA in their Appendix C, in their report, which came out in May of 2002.
00:42:02.000 That report It specifies that they have very little faith in their best hypothesis.
00:42:12.000 It has only a low probability of occurrence.
00:42:15.000 And so, by the time that report came out, though, they had scrubbed the steel from the site, systematically.
00:42:27.000 99.99% of the steel, structural steel from World Trade Center 7, was sent to China for recycling.
00:42:36.000 This is against the law, basically.
00:42:39.000 This is a crime scene, and this is illegal removal of evidence.
00:42:44.000 Yeah, it's a heinous act of treason.
00:42:46.000 Yeah, it's a heinous act of treason so that no real independent investigation can be done where they can give you, basically put out on an AP wire before the building even goes down.
00:42:55.000 The official reason why it's going down, and now seven years later, that reason has been confirmed with literally no science.
00:43:02.000 For instance, they said they looked at the possibility of explosives being used at the World Trade Center to bring it down.
00:43:09.000 However, in their little three minute video, they said that was discounted because there was no videotapes that showed the decibel levels that would have been possible to bring this building down.
00:43:19.000 Now, we know if they used these thermate or thermite cutter charges, the decibel levels wouldn't have been that high.
00:43:25.000 That's right.
00:43:28.000 It's quieter.
00:43:29.000 Thermite is an incendiary.
00:43:31.000 Now, and so they said that, well, it would be a bomb that would be ten times the loudness of a rock concert.
00:43:38.000 Well, when I'm talking about a bomb, we're talking about hundreds of cutter charges, really high-tech cutter charges, which don't leave behind wires and blasting caps in traditional... That's right, no deck cords, no blasting caps.
00:43:52.000 So that disinformation that was on the History Channel last summer, where the guy's like, well, we didn't find no deck cords, no blasting caps.
00:43:58.000 Well, Thermite takes care of that, doesn't it, Richard?
00:44:02.000 Don't tell me he just dropped off.
00:44:04.000 I'll call him right back.
00:44:07.000 I mean, this is from the horse's mouth.
00:44:08.000 Richard Gage is a very dedicated individual.
00:44:11.000 He knows what he's talking about.
00:44:15.000 He has gone through a lot himself.
00:44:16.000 This is a personal odyssey.
00:44:18.000 People don't do this because they want to believe it.
00:44:21.000 They do it because it is the right thing to do.
00:44:24.000 In light of this evidence, we know we have been lied to about 9-11, and again, our entire foreign and domestic policy has been set up based on this lie.
00:44:34.000 And World Trade Center 7, folks, it is the smoking gun.
00:44:37.000 It's what I carry around on my phone.
00:44:39.000 Most people still don't even know that it went down.
00:44:42.000 Okay?
00:44:43.000 They don't know what it's housed... I mean, when you have the largest CIA base outside of Langley, Virginia, the largest Secret Service office in the world, the FBI, the SEC, the DOD.
00:44:55.000 Let me explain.
00:44:56.000 Kroll does not run security on that building, okay?
00:45:00.000 A national security apparatus does.
00:45:02.000 So if this thing was brought down in a controlled demolition and all, I mean all, of the evidence shows that it was, it can only be members within our own government that did this.
00:45:13.000 Richard, I'm sorry they cut you off right there.
00:45:16.000 Please go right back to where you were.
00:45:18.000 That's okay, because I didn't need to hear what you just said.
00:45:22.000 The architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth are not conspiracy theorists, and so we don't point fingers, we just ask for a real investigation, which would, if it were under oath and with subpoena power, and appropriately commissioned, we would have answers to the kinds of questions that you're raising.
00:45:47.000 Did we drop him again?
00:45:48.000 Alright, well I guess that we just can't get Richard.
00:45:51.000 Listen, we'll try to get Richard on sometime next week.
00:45:55.000 I apologize to him for our phone difficulties, but Richard Gage, Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, they are really top of the line.
00:46:03.000 I guess I'm going to try to take phone calls then in the last 15 minutes or so.
00:46:07.000 Let's see who's dropped and who hasn't.
00:46:09.000 First in line is Rachel in California, if she's still there.
00:46:12.000 Rachel, are you with us?
00:46:14.000 How are you doing?
00:46:14.000 Yes, I'm here.
00:46:15.000 I'm fine.
00:46:16.000 I just had two quick things I wanted to say.
00:46:19.000 Sure.
00:46:19.000 One, I'm the person that made the petition for you to get on the Howard Stern Show.
00:46:25.000 Oh, excellent.
00:46:25.000 Sure, I contact you on MySpace every once in a while.
00:46:28.000 You do a lot for this movement.
00:46:29.000 You do what you can.
00:46:30.000 You take your personal power and try to pursue the truth.
00:46:34.000 Well, thank you.
00:46:36.000 Anyways, I just wanted to give the URL so people can go there and find it.
00:46:44.000 The easiest way to get to it is just to go to my website and it's www.freewebs.com slash California 911 Truth.
00:46:58.000 Give it out again.
00:46:59.000 Okay, it's freewebs.com slash California 911 Truth.
00:47:06.000 Alright, thank you so much Rachel.
00:47:07.000 I'm going to jump to the next caller.
00:47:08.000 Let's jump to Sherry in Texas.
00:47:11.000 Sherry, are you still there?
00:47:12.000 Yep, still here.
00:47:14.000 Hey, I just wanted to point out that if you don't know physics, which I don't know physics.
00:47:21.000 I'm terrible at that kind of thing.
00:47:23.000 And a lot of Americans are just really bad at science and being able to understand all this stuff.
00:47:29.000 If you don't understand that, then you can even just look at the economic factors involved.
00:47:34.000 You know, who owned those buildings.
00:47:37.000 I'm not going to say any names, but if you look it up, you'll know.
00:47:41.000 Um, who owned those buildings, and who was, you know, if you follow the money, you can kind of figure things out.
00:47:47.000 Well, sure, I mean, Larry Silverstein takes out a $200 million lease right before the attacks.
00:47:53.000 He has a $20 million clause for terrorism.
00:47:55.000 He ends up pulling in billions.
00:47:57.000 Right.
00:47:58.000 Exactly.
00:47:58.000 And also, they only set apart, what, $16 million to investigate the buildings, you know, just falling from fire for the first time ever in history.
00:48:12.000 And then for Homeland Security, they got like, what was it?
00:48:17.000 Billions and billions and billions of dollars.
00:48:19.000 They have to set up the infrastructure.
00:48:20.000 They don't want an actual investigation.
00:48:22.000 Exactly.
00:48:23.000 And like George Carlin said, they don't investigate themselves.
00:48:25.000 Absolutely.
00:48:25.000 They don't want to.
00:48:26.000 And that's from Life is Worth Losing.
00:48:29.000 Actually, that's from The Confrontation.
00:48:30.000 But in Life is Worth Losing, he just goes through the whole thing.
00:48:33.000 He says, listen, this is a big club and you and I ain't And it's the same big club they beat us over the head with every day to tell us what to believe.
00:48:41.000 I thank you so much for the call.
00:48:43.000 Let's jump to Eric in Wisconsin.
00:48:46.000 Eric, are you still on the line?
00:48:49.000 He did drop him.
00:48:51.000 Alright, let's go to then Helen in Florida.
00:48:53.000 Helen, are you with us?
00:48:56.000 Yes, does no one remember on PBS Larry Silverstein actually saying I thought there was enough death.
00:49:04.000 I decided to pull the building.
00:49:06.000 We played that clip earlier today at a terror storm and I'd also like to point out that in the recent BBC documentary they had Larry Silverstein's quote saying, you know, to pull the building and they showed part of it but then they talked to Chief Daniel Nigro and he said, look, if he was talking about pulling the firefighters he would have had no say.
00:49:27.000 He would have had no say in what I do with my department.
00:49:29.000 So he debunked Larry Silverstein's lie that in fact they were pulling the firefighters.
00:49:34.000 No, he was talking about a controlled demolition of the building.
00:49:37.000 He slipped up on national television.
00:49:39.000 Thank you for bringing up that point, Helen.
00:49:41.000 Alright, let's jump to Jeff in Minnesota, who may be our last caller of the day.
00:49:45.000 We got one more segment after this.
00:49:47.000 Jeff, what's on your mind?
00:49:48.000 Alright, I got a couple things I want to plug right now.
00:49:51.000 One thing that's going on, Dennis Kucinich, he's trying to get a million signatures to bring to Congress.
00:49:58.000 Is that Kucinich.us?
00:50:00.000 That's Kucinich.us.
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00:50:02.000 Everybody needs to go there.
00:50:04.000 Kucinich.us.
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00:50:06.000 I've plugged it before.
00:50:07.000 He's a great guy.
00:50:08.000 Stay on the line, Jeff.
00:50:09.000 I'm going to let you plug your other stuff when we get back.
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00:53:24.000 Hey, Jason.
00:53:35.000 Yeah.
00:53:38.000 Did you want to bring up Richard Gage again here?
00:53:40.000 He just called back in.
00:53:41.000 Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:42.000 Let me just finish with Jeff and then I'll give Richard Gage the floor at the very end.
00:53:47.000 Okay, excellent.
00:53:47.000 Alright, sounds good.
00:53:48.000 Thank you.
00:53:50.000 Alright, folks, we're back!
00:53:52.000 Richard Gage called back, so we're going to give him the floor at the very, very end, the last two minutes to talk about how you can get involved in this whole thing.
00:53:59.000 But right now we've got Jeff in Minnesota.
00:54:02.000 We've given out Cassinish.us.
00:54:04.000 That is in support of the impeachment, I assume, Jeff?
00:54:08.000 Yes, it's impeachment, persecution, everything he's been fighting for.
00:54:13.000 I mean, his little slogan is, make December the day before the world changed, the day the world changed.
00:54:23.000 September 10th, he wants to get that million signatures.
00:54:28.000 And the other thing, I'm up here in Minnesota, so we got convention coming here so we're going to get a little taste of the police state.
00:54:36.000 Oh absolutely, well you also have the Ron Paul convention so I really think a lot of things can be done.
00:54:41.000 You know I gotta let you go because I have to go to Richard Gage but I encourage anybody that is going to that Ron Paul convention or Just to the RNC to man up with a camera and get ready for some thick and hairy stuff.
00:54:52.000 I don't think they're ready for as many people are going to show up to this alternate convention with Jesse Ventura, Ron Paul, Amy Allen, and others.
00:55:00.000 Alright, we've got Richard Gage back on the line.
00:55:02.000 I'm sorry we dropped you twice, Richard.
00:55:04.000 In the last couple minutes of the show, why don't you just tell people how they can get involved?
00:55:08.000 I know that you're constantly looking for more architects and engineers to join the cause.
00:55:12.000 Tell people how they can do that.
00:55:14.000 Yeah, it is so easy to do something relative to 9-11 Truth.
00:55:19.000 The American people have to be woken up, and we've made it pretty easy.
00:55:23.000 If you go to the website, AE911Truth.org, all people have to do is download this letter, this three-page letter that I've written, and attach it.
00:55:33.000 It's a PDF.
00:55:34.000 Attach it to an email that your listeners, I'm asking them, all of them, all of you, to Write an email to every architect and engineer that you can find, attach this letter, and say, hey, I'm not technical.
00:55:50.000 Please, review this.
00:55:53.000 Why are there 435 architects and engineers demanding a real investigation when there's only a half a dozen to a dozen that actually support the official conspiracy story?
00:56:03.000 Please, check it out and let me know.
00:56:06.000 That is easy.
00:56:07.000 We also have the DVDs online at our website.
00:56:12.000 You can listen to it, you can purchase it.
00:56:15.000 We have materials, cards that you can hand out to people on the street, banners that you can put out in front of architecture offices, architecture schools.
00:56:25.000 Hundreds of architects and engineers demand a real investigation.
00:56:28.000 It's extremely important that Americans wake up because we are promised another, and far worse, 9-11 by members of the Bush administration, the media, and the Congress.
00:56:40.000 Uh, this is extremely disturbing.
00:56:42.000 We've witnessed, as I mentioned, the controlled demolition of our democracy through this legislation, such as the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the forthcoming Homegrown Terrorism Act.
00:56:53.000 We cannot afford to wait any longer for the next 9-11 and whatever legislation it might bring under the guise of a false flag attack.
00:57:03.000 Will it be Iran?
00:57:04.000 Will we lose an aircraft carrier?
00:57:07.000 Let's not wait.
00:57:08.000 Let's wake people up to the reality that every war has started with such a false flag operation in order to bring us in.
00:57:17.000 And we have to use this new report as fuel to the fire, right Richard?
00:57:21.000 Yes, this report, as ridiculous as it is, from NIST on the World Trade Center 7 collapse by normal office fires, can be used and people will not buy it.
00:57:32.000 They need to be shown that this 47-story building was brought down symmetrically at free-fall speed.
00:57:39.000 All right, Richard, thank you so much.
00:57:40.000 It's Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth.
00:57:43.000 Remember, the rebroadcast comes in at about 90 seconds.
00:57:46.000 We had Benjamin Fulford, Jonathan Elinoff, Shane Geiger, Bob Chapman, and of course, Richard Gage.
00:57:51.000 We went over the World Trade Center 7 NIST report ad nauseum.
00:57:55.000 Barack and McCain going down to Ground Zero.