Jason Burmess fills in for Alex Jones at the Democratic National Convention in D.C. on August 26th, 2008. After the show, they run into Michelle Malkin and get into a crazy confrontation. This was the second incident of its kind since a conservative media reporter got into an altercation with a protestor attending the protest on Sunday.
00:00:12.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:22.000We are locked and loaded today, August 26, 2008.
00:00:28.000Not only from the command center here in Austin, Texas with me, Jason Burmess, filling in for Alex Jones, but Alex Jones himself over at the DNC.
00:04:16.000But soon the attention was diverted from the peaceful protest by an altercation between a member of the conservative media and a citizen attending the protest.
00:04:24.000This was the second incident of its kind.
00:04:26.000On Sunday, protesters took exception to a Fox News reporter trying to question Ward Churchill.
00:04:31.000Controversial. See, Ward Churchill wasn't even there at the time.
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00:10:18.000I have never come to Denver, I've been here many times, but I've never come here to cover a big political event, especially a huge national security event like this one.
00:10:25.000We have covered Canada, we have covered Austin, Texas, the Fortune 500, we have covered Seattle.
00:10:33.000Just earlier this year, they had the Security and Prosperity Partnership, North America's Reunion Summit in Ottawa and Montebello, and some of our We're
00:11:03.000of the Fortune 500 they had in Austin in 1999 there were these huge cops they weren't the little meth head you know dirty leg anarchist running around you could tell they were cops starting fights I went up to them and said stop it officers Austin police ran across and said stop it Jones and then we backed them off there so my own town the cops tried it and so we see We've seen this other places.
00:11:23.000So, I came in here saying, well, I've seen it happen.
00:11:28.000Well, I have to say, everywhere I've been, and I've seen all these videos of Denver beating people up and, you know, I've criticized those.
00:11:34.000But I have to say, very professional police.
00:12:53.000See, when I protested in the 60s and 70s, I'm a bit older than you.
00:12:58.000And then, or we didn't schedule it to tell people where we were going to be.
00:13:01.000And another thing we didn't do is we got to get on a radio show like he does for an hour or two.
00:13:07.000Exactly! You don't talk about yourself.
00:13:12.000We're against the cams, we're against the wireless wiretapping.
00:13:14.000Instead it's, we're clowns, we're the best, we're not lying.
00:13:18.000He's talking about himself, he's talking about his group, he's talking about his cocktail parties and pedicures.
00:13:23.000No, he's bragging about, look, it's all about their personal power trip, how they get to meet these Hollywood people, and how they get to go meet Sean Penn.
00:13:31.000But let me tell you what they've done to us.
00:14:27.000Ward Churchill, the guy that said that everybody was Adolf Eichmann's and deserved to die in the towers, the daycare kids, the secretaries, the food preparers, the waitresses, they're there.
00:14:52.000I've been making a film for several years about the police state.
00:14:54.000So I've been to a bunch of other events, and in our film we're going to show that they were restrained unless something else happens to the police in the next few days.
00:15:10.000Slapping and hitting the $10,000 camera.
00:15:13.000So they're just, you know, anybody basically who doesn't walk around with methamphetamines and doesn't have tattoos all over them and devil tattoos.
00:15:20.000And I'm not even bashing those people.
00:15:33.000All right, let's cut in and go back to some news, and then we're going to go back to the Malkin clip, because he just talked about Ward Churchill, and I ended the segment with Ward Churchill before we cut out a little bit.
00:15:42.000And there's another article that is trying to say that Alex is a racist.
00:16:06.000And then in the background of the picture, on the DNC Mint article, is a gentleman who Alex did get an altercation with during the Malkin confrontation, which we're going to play a segment of probably in the next minute or so.
00:16:19.000Uh, but Alex actually talked to him this morning and he had no idea that Malkin was Bill O'Reilly's host.
00:16:24.000This guy was totally out of it, has no idea what's going on in the world, and they made up and made friends.
00:16:30.000So that was pretty interesting, but let's, uh, let's read the quote, okay?
00:16:36.000First of all, uh, Fox News reporter trying to question Ward Churchill.
00:16:39.000No, she was not trying to question- Michelle Malkin was not trying to question Ward Churchill.
00:16:43.000What she was doing was taking pictures of the demonstrators, the anarchists, the- the- The ones with no purpose.
00:16:50.000The ones that have no idea about geopolitics.
00:16:52.000They think everything is black and white.
00:16:54.000They do you really honestly believe anarchy is going to work?
00:17:03.000So, of course, today it was radical Alex Jones from the group 9-11 Truth, which believes that the September 11th terrorist attacks were planned by the U.S. government, verbally confronting Malkin, a conservative columnist and Fox News contributor.
00:17:16.000More than a Fox News contributor, she's the host for O'Reilly when he's out, okay?
00:17:28.000He said, recreate 68's Sanchez, who pushed his way into the crowd of TV cameras to yell at Joe and said, Michelle Malkin is a true patriot!
00:17:38.000And Alex Jones, of course, Glenn Spagnuolo said that he's the true agent provocateur.
00:17:44.000No, Alex has a style of confrontation with these people, which is no nonsense and not gonna back down.
00:17:51.000But, you know, again, they try to portray him as a racist.
00:17:53.000Look, you show me one racist thing Alex Jones has ever done, and don't give me that mexophobia crap, okay?
00:18:00.000No one has anything against Mexicans here.
00:18:03.000We have a problem with our economy being taken over by a North American union By devaluing the dollar, putting it on parity with the Canadian dollar, and then bringing up the peso as you let all sorts of illegals come into this country because you want a one conglomerate North American Union.
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00:28:24.000Some of those people think that they're doing the right thing.
00:28:27.000But they're not doing the right thing.
00:28:28.000Because they're going along with these...
00:28:31.000Look, Tom Martino has it pretty dead on while he's interviewing Alex and he's saying, well what are these Recreate 68 people trying to achieve?
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00:33:43.000I just have one caution, I guess, and sort of something to throw out there for people to chew on a little bit.
00:33:50.000I've followed Alex's work for Five, six years, and sure, initially it was quite a big shock, you know, some of the stuff that was revealed, but as he points out, over time you become, you know, somewhat desensitized to even the most egregious stuff that they're trying to pull, right? Sure.
00:34:08.000And we also haven't seemed, on some levels, to have slowed up their progress.
00:34:14.000In other words, a lot of these agendas that, you know, have been revealed to people and people have sort of woken up to, They're still going ahead with, regardless.
00:34:24.000So, one of the things I want to throw out as a proviso is, as a group, and as a community, and I use those words loosely, we need to start talking a little bit more about where it is we want to go, and what the next phase of this quote-unquote revolution is going to be.
00:34:41.000Sure, well, alright, let me tell you what I think the next phase of this revolution should be.
00:34:45.000I mean, Ron Paul Uh, you know, is having his alternate convention.
00:34:48.000He's also starting his own group to try to get people into local politics.
00:34:54.000If you're, if you're man enough, if you're up for it, you think you can win a congressional seat, that's the way to go.
00:34:58.000We have to get good people in, into, uh, Congress, into your state senate, into local government.
00:35:03.000I mean, if we could go governor, that'd be great.
00:35:05.000If we go senate, that'd be even, actual senate, that'd be even better.
00:35:08.000But we have to start small and start somewhere and really be a voice At these meetings, and if we have people that don't cow down to quote-unquote special interest groups, then I think that we have a better shot.
00:35:21.000I mean, I think that's got to be the next step.
00:35:23.000I mean, for me, my next step is, you know, doing radio and movies to wake other people up, and hopefully other people can use their talents in the political arena.
00:35:33.000I mean, I'm not saying that I'm opposed maybe five, ten years down the line to getting into politics, but I hope it's somebody else.
00:35:39.000I know it's a job that weighs on you heavily.
00:35:43.000And the temptation is right in front of you.
00:35:46.000I mean, ultimately, we have to take the special interest out of politics.
00:35:50.000They're on a break over at Martino's show, and they're still having problems with the feed for some reason, but I'm getting it no problemo.
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00:36:13.000We're here on the other side of the river in Lakewood, Colorado.
00:36:15.000We caught some good things you want to hear about from the public broadcast.
00:36:19.000Their idol, Ted the Idiot Turner, in town.
00:36:24.000And he's walking around, going to the convention, getting all the free food and everything.
00:36:29.000And that means Hanoi Jane could be not too far behind.
00:36:32.000But also, public broadcast putting out information about some Alleged plot against some candidate when they said they had rifles in their car.
00:36:44.000You're talking about the Nancy Pelosi incident, right?
00:36:47.000No, in Oak County, and he sent an envelope full of white powder, and it went to a campaign headquarters.
00:36:53.000There's a kind of degeneracy of these public broadcasters in this area, and apparently they can't even stir up the anticipated riots that they were trying to...
00:37:03.000Well, they definitely failed on that, and Rabbi, thank you for the call.
00:37:06.000Uh, yeah, they didn't get the riots they wanted.
00:37:08.000Not enough people were fooled by Recreate 68. Okay, you're not calling for violence.
00:37:21.000I mean, you got people in full gear right here.
00:37:24.000And the plot he's talking about, I don't know a lot about.
00:37:27.000I just heard it on the mainstream media, so, you know, take it with a ring of caution, supposedly.
00:37:33.000Somebody Was in the same hotel as Pelosi and some other Democrats, and I think Pelosi was the main target apparently, and they saw him walking in with rifles in his bag.
00:38:15.000I was wanting to know if you can get ahold of Alex and ask him if they're jamming his computer somehow, where he can't get his feed, because I'm getting it great here in Missouri.
00:38:23.000All right, here's how you got to do it.
00:39:25.000I wanted to ask you, have you heard about anything going on with the deal that Alex is going to put together with Willie Nelson?
00:39:32.000Yeah, it's in, I think, the third week of October.
00:39:34.000I don't know if any tickets are on sale.
00:39:36.000I don't want to give away too much of it if he hasn't given away too much of it yet, but it is locked and loaded and ready to go, and I'll be flying back to Austin for it, so it should be a great event.
00:39:46.000You know, you're going to have to get your tickets quick because it's not a huge venue, but it should be pretty interesting.
00:40:58.000Alex has a lot of controversial stands on things, but oddly enough, when he came here expecting to see a lot of provocative tours in the crowd, mainly he'd been sponsored by police or others to give justices or for his actions.
00:41:10.000He said the police and Denver were very organized, polite, and very on top of it, and they were provoked by some of these idiotic protesters from Recreate 68 and other groups who had no idea what they were protesting and just looking for publicity.
00:41:25.000I mean, in technical, there was one case last night after the riots.
00:41:29.000two waves of them, about 11 o'clock at night, videotaping police trying to drink apple juice and eat nut bars.
00:41:37.000And the guy walks over and he goes, come on, man, we're working, we're tired, leave us alone.
00:41:42.000And I just said, hey, we're working too.
00:41:44.000And he said, he was kind of mad at first, he goes, all right, I'm from Hawaii originally, hang loose.
00:41:49.000You don't have Austin cops doing that, you don't have New York cops doing that.
00:41:52.000So I have to say, now I have some Denver cops with a bicyclist, 20 feet away, you can hear them crack.
00:42:31.000And so now I think they basically are going to be, or anarchists not affiliated with them by the hundreds, but they're running around like banshees.
00:42:39.000But we're going to now be tracking them and trying to document what they're doing.
00:42:44.000Again, we've caught other anarchists working for the feds.
00:42:47.000I'm not saying all anarchists do or all of them are bad.
00:45:30.000He defeated five state attorneys, four police, and a judge.
00:45:33.000Four times he brought him back, sent him to jail.
00:45:35.000They finally, the judge said, this is his charge.
00:45:37.000Also, when they're making you pay fines, traffic fines to the court, they're making you violate the Constitution, because the Constitution says, I don't know.
00:45:59.000I don't have a computer Oh I gotcha Alright well thank you for the call Helen I hope people check out that information I've heard a couple cases where people have tried to just pay with Gold and silver and they don't want to accept it And then they do beat it But it's a long and strenuous process I think you've got to pick and choose your battles.
00:46:16.000Maybe this is the battle that you want to pick and choose, though.
00:46:19.000I mean, I do speak every once in a while over at Freedom Law School.
00:46:22.000Those are anti-IRS and tax protesters, federal income tax.
00:46:26.000And, you know, they've got a lot of great information.
00:46:54.000I mean, this film, rather than taking a look at the physical anomalies, is really going to take a look at this international intelligence organization.
00:48:35.000Really broke up Recreate 68 into, like, this pitiful Uh, you know, sub-anarchist group that doesn't have the power to shut down free speech at the DNC.
00:48:44.000Alright, let's jump to yet another caller.
00:48:48.000Hey, I want to touch a few important areas, if you don't mind.
00:48:52.000Sure. First of all, did you know that Michael Turdoff was the sole person responsible for both the Anthrax in America investigation and the 9-1-1 events?
00:49:10.000He was under John Ashcroft in the criminal division of the Attorney General's office.
00:49:17.000Absolutely. It's actually in my new movie, Fabled Enemies.
00:49:19.000We don't talk about the anthrax, but we do talk about him shutting down the FBI investigations into the funding of the whole thing, and when Robert Wright tried to tell his story because he was tracking all of this Islamic terrorist money.
00:49:33.000He was basically told, Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch, that they weren't interested in his conspiracy theories.
00:49:38.000And we all know that Mr. Chertoff was later promoted to the head of Homeland Security.
00:49:42.000Right. And I just want to basically remind people that he kept dragging his feet.
00:49:51.000He would not talk about the progress of either investigation.
00:49:56.000There has been no official DOJ investigation of either one.
00:50:02.000Because Bush pulled him out of the bureaucracy and it was basically a, you know, the president's investigation based on the fact that he could run it the way he wanted, not necessarily...
00:50:21.000Look at the investigations that they did in the public.
00:50:23.000Even the congressional investigation, which is highly compromised right off the bat because you have Porter Goss And Bob Graham heading it off.
00:50:30.000Two of the people who are having breakfast with Mahmood Ahmed.
00:50:33.000They have 27 pages redacted in it related to the foreign government sponsorship of these guys who were trained in our country at US bases, man.
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00:55:09.000A few weeks back, it might have been about a month back, you guys did a, on InfoWars.com, you guys did a story on Tillman again.
00:55:16.000Okay. And I was just reading through that and Kind of the insinuation of the article is that Tillman had been assassinated by his own group.
00:55:33.000Point blank, I mean, look, if it was a misfire, if it was just friendly fire, you would think maybe it would be, I don't know, 5, 10, 15 yards away, but the ballistics It shows where he was hit.
00:55:48.000It was like less than five feet, literally point-blank range in the head.
00:55:51.000So, I mean, his parents have those questions, but continue.
00:55:56.000No, well, the thing is that I was in First Ranger Battalion, so that was Second Ranger Battalion, but I went through school and everything with Pat, and so I have a little bit more information on stuff, and I'm not sure where all the information's coming out about, you know, that he was first.
00:56:15.000I heard he was, like, You know, 50 feet, then I heard he was, you know, 50 yards.
00:56:23.000Well, the thing is, is that, you know, they try to say that they took, you know, they took his, uh, his diary and stuff and everything that he was writing and all that stuff, but I mean, to be honest with you, whether or not it was Pat or whether it was me or anything, we are briefed when we go over.
00:56:40.000You actually aren't allowed to write about Anything that you see over there, there's certain things that are, you know, considered sensitive.
00:56:50.000Sure, it's just like your mail is vetted and you get the news that they want you to give you, that you listen to the Army radio station.
00:56:57.000You're not, I mean, you're not hooked into even CNN or MSNBC or any of that disinformation.
00:57:01.000You're just given what the military tells you and you're not even supposed to write back letters that tell your position, correct?
00:57:25.000Whether or not it was Pat, whether it was me, whether it was another guy, they're going to take that information if they find out that you have that information.
00:57:33.000So what happened was, after his death, they go through his stuff, And if they find, you know, census stuff talking about emissions, then they're going to take that stuff.
00:57:42.000And that's something that everybody knows before.
00:57:44.000I mean, if I got caught writing about emission, whether it's past, present, or future, and we weren't, you know, debriefed and told, like, you can now write about this, then it's always basically going to remain in that, you know, sector basically as top secret.
01:00:31.000And before we take a couple more callers, and hopefully Alex will be with us in the second segment, we're going to have Mike Rivero coming up of WhatReallyHappened.com after that.
01:00:41.000And I want to let people know that Cindy Sheehan caught a phone bugger in the act at the DNC.
01:00:50.000from the report posted by Cindy Sheehan at the Francisco Bay Area Independent Media Center.
01:00:57.000The most troubling thing that happened, though, when I arrived back at my hotel, we got back early because the altitude and sleeplessness were starting to take a toll on us.
01:01:04.000We did not march after the rally, so we decided to rest before the next event at 7 p.m.
01:01:09.000As I walked toward my room, I noticed that the door was open with the security bolt blocking the complete closing of the door.
01:01:15.000I knew immediately that I had not left the door open, and I double-checked to make sure It was the right room, because as a frequent traveler, I have never been known to forget my room number.
01:02:06.000By the way, if you don't know the call-in line, not that I'm hurting for callers, but if you want to call in, the call-in line is 1-800-259 9231, that's 1-800-259-9231.
01:02:52.000He's just a no-name reporter for them.
01:02:54.000Basically what he did was he inserted himself right in the center of a big crowd of people and the outrageous thing for me was to see at 21 seconds in the video either a Fox News person or provocateur Holding a child and inserting himself in the screaming child in between the camera people that were being attacked.
01:03:43.000No, no, you're not going to be able to play it, but somebody out there might be able to edit the video and, you know, get the audio out of it, but there is unmistakably a man holding a five-year-old child and inserting himself in between the converging mob.
01:04:20.000Hopefully, uh, hopefully we can have somebody edit this up, or, I mean, it's tough on radio folks, uh, you know, to play something like this.
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01:08:21.000You can watch all this stuff live over at Infowars.com via Justin.tv.
01:08:25.000We're going to get to Mike Rivero hopefully in the next segment.
01:08:29.000He's waiting patiently on the line what really happened dot com But I want to I want to reiterate that this recreate 68 group keeps saying oh, we're not violent We never called for violence, but again get on your computer right now go to recreate 68 dot com slash Shield book dot PDF they are still hosting a ridiculous anarchist violent shield book Where they're saying remove barriers?
01:08:58.000Basically, provocateur cops use trash cans.
01:09:02.000They have people dressed up in ridiculous armament.
01:09:07.000So for them to say that they're not the violent group, well, they're hosting a very violent PDF on their site.
01:09:52.000And of course, for all the great JustinTV folks, you can always tune in to the radio show.
01:09:56.000After I'm gone for continual coverage and some of the best guests out there, and Jason Mermin's doing a fabulous job of sitting in, I just want to add before I give you a rundown of what happened yesterday, it was incredible, that Fabled Enemies is coming out in just five days.
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01:10:24.000Now, Let me just break down what happened very succinctly and I need the listeners help Encountering this because if we don't counter this this will be added to the false legend or the false Background they've attached to my identity.
01:10:39.000Let me just break down for everybody exactly what happened yesterday First we well we've been all over town, but the first time we engaged the anarchists and Recreate 68 was around noon or so everybody heard here on the show.
01:10:52.000We're peacefully interviewing anarchists streaming live We're good.
01:11:08.000police on horses riot police they start shoving me pushing me saying that i'm causing the disturbance and so i i just say you know what you want to violate my first amendment you want to do what the cops aren't doing the cops weren't valid my first amendment i said fine i'm just gonna leave and as i left left They shoved me some more, so I shoved one guy back.
01:11:28.000And as soon as I shoved him, they went, oh, look, he shoved him!
01:11:30.000So these are provocateurs of the worst type.
01:11:33.000Then, last night, or in the evening, about 6 o'clock here, 7 o'clock central, we go down by the Denver men, where they were going to go surround it.
01:11:43.000They have the federal police with their machine guns behind it.
01:11:46.000They have the Denver police around it.
01:11:47.000It's about 300, recreate 68 people, maximum.
01:11:51.000I mean, I take 200, we'll recreate 68. An anarchist.
01:11:54.000Pretty much, I'd call it an anarchist group.
01:12:18.000They'd start hitting me with a flyer, and they'd hit me with their knuckles.
01:12:21.000And then this went on and on, and I'd be in a crowd just peacefully videotaping, not even talking, and they'd come up and, oh, sorry, you know, run into me and start laughing, going, Alex Jones, Alex Jones.
01:12:30.000I mean, they hate the fact that I've exposed that they're just clowns who get all the media attention because they act like these geeky clowns, and then it discredits everybody, Jason.
01:12:40.000Absolutely. So then all that happens, and then I've been there about 15 minutes in the main crowd, down from this park right in front of the Denver Men.
01:12:51.000We are changed, whoever he is, you know, that's Michelle Malkin right over there.
01:12:55.000So I go over to her, and at first I'm polite, but I go, you called for internment camps, you called for torture.
01:13:00.000And quote one of her bodyguards, one of the other bloggers she works with, it's linked on her site, comes over, he literally says, I'm big!
01:13:25.000And then, there were like these four court jesters, they were even dressed up in like clown hats, who were like little neocon frat boys, and they started going, Kill Michelle Malkin!
01:13:36.000And then they started screaming, Alex Jones said, Kill Michelle Malkin!
01:13:40.000And they were wearing like ridiculous berets, and like putting their arm around you, and they were basically just trying to distract the issue.
01:13:50.000Some of the allied neocon bloggers, there were about, I'd say, 12 of them, or maybe more total, with Malkin and other people and some other cameras, and they were doing some feeds as well.
01:13:59.000But the point here is, they expertly started screaming, kill Michelle Malkin, and then they'd say, look, he said kill Michelle Malkin.
01:14:09.000And the Denver Post bit on it, said I said kill Michelle Malkin.
01:14:12.000Doesn't matter that all the videos are archived at InfoWars.com for free.
01:14:15.000You can see it from multiple camera angles, other people's angles.
01:14:53.000Now it's admitted, the Marines admitted it was a real puppy.
01:14:56.000She said it was a robot puppy that we staged and it was fake.
01:14:59.000And instead, the Denver Post and others, some other papers, Instead of them coming out and saying, and Alex Jones confronted her about how she denied the Marines killed that puppy, it was Alex made up that they drowned a puppy.
01:15:12.000So see, I'm on all these videos in front of the news saying, threw the puppy off the cliff, threw the puppy off the cliff, so they build a straw man of me saying that they drowned the puppy, that way I can now be a liar because Marines didn't drown the puppy.
01:15:28.000So see, this is the type of disinformation.
01:15:30.000So now, Radio stations all over the country, print media.
01:15:33.000It's Alex Jones assaulted the poor innocent Michelle Malkin.
01:15:38.000Alex Jones made up stuff about drowning puppies.
01:16:02.000They were shoving on Aaron, and the next time he shoved me, I did shove him, and then he played like it was really a hard shove and went, oh!
01:16:10.000And I fell back, and they said, he pushed me!
01:16:13.000So, I mean, these people are despicable.
01:16:16.000They're obviously trained in this, but imagine their own people screaming, kill Michelle Malkin, and then screaming next, he said, kill her!
01:16:27.000I talked to Paul Watson about an hour and a half ago, Paul went on Tom Martino, a top show here in Denver, and Paul has now identified, and yes, it's clear, they're the ones screaming it, and they tried to frame me with it.
01:17:33.000They act like complete and total morons.
01:17:36.000so that all of the demonstrations are discredited, so that the media can give them 90-plus percent of the coverage internationally.
01:17:46.000These clowns get it, and man, when we show up on public streets, they get pissed because they do not want us to get any of the media attention.
01:17:54.000Frankly, I don't even like going down around these things.
01:17:56.000They've got demonstrations going on right now and not even going to.
01:17:59.000We could go in there right now and basically have them attack.
01:18:30.000And I'm telling you, Malcolm's people and the Recreate liberals, They all behave the same, just different rhetoric.
01:18:38.000You know, they're saying a little bit different issues, but the disinformation, the spin, the games, it's all about deception.
01:18:47.000And I guess that's why we're getting all the attention here, and really shaking all these groups up, is because, as George Orwell said, in a time of universal deceit...
01:19:22.000The Denver Police, as far as I can tell, are not in on the provocateuring.
01:19:26.000We know other police departments have, we know the Feds have, but they don't need to now.
01:19:30.000They just bring in this foundation group of Recreate 68, 300 of them, that act like clowns, discredit all the protesters, and then lie and demonize everybody.
01:19:39.000Absolutely, Alex, and we'll be back after this with yourself and Michael Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com.
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01:24:08.000I mean, there's just too much thunder and lightning going on with Alex Jones live at the DNC right now, and we've got Michael Rivera also patiently holding on the line.
01:24:17.000Let's get Michael's take on the DNC and see if he has any questions for Alex.
01:24:21.000Yeah, I'm definitely there, and I've been following on the videos and the online streams with what Alex is going through with Michelle Malkin and with this Recreate 68 group.
01:24:32.000They used to call themselves rent-a-ruckus, and they are pay professional disruptors.
01:24:37.000And they're basically following the same model that the FBI used to do back in the COINTELPRO days, back in the 60s, when the goal was to make pro-peace, anti-Vietnam War demonstrators look as bad as possible for the media.
01:24:49.000And, you know, the tactics have not changed.
01:24:54.000You know, this group, in fact, you know, we need to find out who pays for them and who runs them.
01:24:59.000But in all probability, they've at least been trained by some of the old COINTELPRO people from back in the 1960s, because they're acting exactly like the FBI informants used to do.
01:25:09.000Let me just throw this out, and I'm going to let you go.
01:25:12.000Coming up in about an hour and a half is a 9-11 Truth March, so I'll call in live with that.
01:25:17.000We'll also have the live feed up on InfoWars.com.
01:25:20.000I want to thank Mike Rivera for coming on.
01:25:22.000Mike, I need your help, and I need everybody else's help.
01:25:25.000Getting the videos out that show that I didn't say kill Michelle Malkin, and that her people said that, and then said, look, he said killer.
01:25:32.000I mean, this is really a sick hoax they've now put out.
01:25:35.000It's being picked up by a lot of radio shows and things.
01:25:37.000And they just get away with this over and over again.
01:25:39.000Well, they obviously haven't gotten over that much yet, but they're totally discredited with most people now.
01:25:43.000But it's just so dastardly and so sick.
01:25:45.000So I'd like to get Mike Rivera, WhatReallyHappened.com's analysis of that end.
01:25:52.000Because both Michelle Malkin and her cadre and the anarchists were using the same tactics of just totally lying and making stuff up.
01:26:03.000Well, like I said, that's definitely a tactic that comes out of COINTELPRO, and I've already put up your videos at whatreallyhappened.com to get the story out, to basically just show, let people decide for themselves.
01:26:14.000You know how the confrontation with Michelle Malkin went?
01:26:18.000It's very obvious she was just trying to ignore you and blow you off in the whole situation.
01:26:22.000But yes, these Render Ruckus people, you know, they're following...
01:26:28.000They said Michelle Malkin is a great American and started attacking me.
01:26:35.000Yeah, but again, it's the same tactics from COINTELPRO and I would not be surprised if this group does have direct links to the U.S. government.
01:26:45.000I mean, they've sat there and parroted saying we're not a violent group.
01:26:48.000Well, again, they are hosting a quote-unquote shield book dot pdf on recreate dot 68 dot com slash shield book where they're literally calling for people to mask their face, wear helmets, bring shields, and throw red paint.
01:27:01.000Regardless, regardless, I've had them rough me up and everybody else up.
01:27:06.000I'm going to let you guys get back to work.
01:27:07.000I'll call in later with another report.
01:27:08.000All right, thanks for joining us, Alex.
01:27:09.000And remember, you can see the live video stream right now over at InfoWars.com.
01:27:13.000Kind of revolutionary radio, eh, Mike?
01:27:16.000Absolutely. And we're seeing a whole revolution right now, where the old corporate media and government control of information is definitely on the wane.
01:27:24.000And the internet and alternative media, well, we're transforming the world just as dramatically as Gutenberg did with movable type.
01:27:31.000And the ruling structures are reacting exactly the same way now that they did way back then, but in the long run, the truth is going to get out, the people are going to realize that there are other sources of information that are more accurate, and they're just going to turn their backs on the, you know, on the government and the corporate media because they're going to recognize it's just been a lot of lies and deception and control.
01:27:51.000I'm with you 100%, and I kind of wanted to get your take on them announcing Joseph Biden as the Democratic nominee for Vice President.
01:28:00.000He's got ties to the Bush administration.
01:28:03.000He knows full well about the New World Order, speaking about it, writing articles about it in the Wall Street Journal.
01:28:09.000Why do you think they chose this guy, and was it a smart move on their behalf?
01:28:13.000I think it was a smart move in the context that if Obama had not named an ardent pro-Zionist as his Vice President, then Hillary would still have funding and support to challenge his nomination here at the convention.
01:28:29.000But since the Zionists and Israel are going to get what they want anyway, regardless of whether it's Hillary or Biden, then I think Hillary's support has kind of evaporated.
01:28:39.000And I know we started this convention with indications Hillary might still try and grab something during the floor vote Wednesday, but this morning we're beginning to see indications that her support isn't there, that a lot of her delegates have abandoned her and gone over to Obama, and that she just is not really going to be able to mount a significant challenge Of course, she's still a woman very much driven by her anger, and everybody's working to try and calm her down.
01:29:03.000But I think that was a big reason that Obama went with Biden.
01:29:07.000I think Obama knew, as did most of us, that if he actually named Hillary as his vice president, he was not likely to survive his first term in office.
01:29:15.000So he went with the safer choice, which was Biden.
01:29:18.000And Biden has really been vying for the presidency now in the last two elections in the Democratic primaries.
01:29:24.000He's a guy that's well aware of what's going on in the world, and he ain't a good guy.
01:29:28.000I mean, he knows about the RFID technology.
01:29:30.000He asked Roberts about it when he became a member of the Supreme Court.
01:29:35.000So, you know, I'm very suspect of Joseph Biden.
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01:33:28.000You can watch the live streaming video over at Infowars.com.
01:33:32.000And we have Michael Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com on the line.
01:33:37.000Michael was gracious enough to give me an interview for my upcoming film, Fabled Enemies, that hits PrisonPlanet.tv on August 31st and chips out September 1st.
01:33:46.000From the, uh, bunker here in Austin, Texas.
01:33:49.000So I want to play, uh, trailer two right now for that, and, uh, talk to Michael about his participation in the film.
01:33:57.000News has learned that some American terrorism investigators fear certain suspects in the September 11th attacks may have managed to stay ahead of them.
01:34:06.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis, again, very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. Whether it's because they're in intelligence services or what they were doing, I will defer to the Department of Justice and the FBI.
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01:35:25.000Mike, why don't you tell people about your...
01:35:27.000I mean, you interviewed yourself for it.
01:35:29.000I wrote the questions down, but your participation in it and the topics that we discuss.
01:35:35.000Well, basically one of the problems with living out here in Hawaii, and I know it's going to come across as very kind of weird for people that I would have a complaint about living out here in Hawaii, but we are very far from the mainland.
01:35:45.000It makes it very difficult to get over there to attend public events and to be interviewed.
01:35:50.000So what we generally do is, again, as you indicated, you wrote out the questions.
01:35:56.000I set up my own camera in my living room and basically shot myself responding to the questions.
01:36:05.000And you did a masterful job of editing it all together, so it leaves out all the times I stammer and stutter and lose my place in the script.
01:36:20.000This is, you know, a huge, huge scandal, and because of what you were saying before, the mainstream corporate media has lost the battle for the minds of America.
01:36:30.000The high ground is now on the Internet and the alternative media, and because of that, people are understanding, first of all, that there is something that needs to be looked into there, that we already know we were lied into the war in Iraq, and now everybody's saying, what else have we been lied to about?
01:36:46.000And they're willing to accept That they've been lied to about a lot of things.
01:36:51.000They're willing to accept that the government spends huge amounts of money to deceive them.
01:36:56.000And I want to kind of get back to what's going on in Denver right now, because this whole Recreate 68 group is supposed to be, you know, coming back from, you know, the Chicago 7 and the 68 Democratic Convention.
01:37:09.000And that may be more appropriate a name than they want to let on, because what most people don't know Is that Rennie Davis, Tom Hayden, and the others who became The Seven were being funded by federal money.
01:37:22.000It was channeled to about $192,000 in federal money, $85,000 from the Carnegie Foundation, acting as a conduit for CIA, was all run through a front group called the Chicago Student Health Organization.
01:37:35.000And basically, these radical, violent groups are creations of the government That are used to justify, first of all, marginalizing dissent, and eventually, you know, increase police presence and crackdown, you know, on those darn dirty hippies, to quote Ronald Reagan.
01:37:55.000And I remember when I was in college, and this is giving my age away here, but through their campus informants, and for you young kids listening to this broadcast, yes, the FBI has informants on every college campus in America.
01:38:10.000And using those informants back in the 60s, they organized a multi-campus peace march against the Vietnam War, ostensibly to take place in front of the Disneyland theme park in Anaheim.
01:38:21.000Once the march was underway, the organizers, again, the FBI undercover informants, got everybody cranked up and angry and said, they're ignoring us, let's go inside, left the turnstiles, went into the Disneyland park, caused a lot of property damage, the newspapers were there taking pictures of it,
01:38:38.000the National Guard showed up, The next day it was on every newspaper in America how those darn peace marchers had trashed Disneyland, totally discredited the anti-war movement, and allowed the Vietnam War to continue for another two years, 60,000 Americans dead, complete military political disaster, all on orders from the Nixon White House and carried out by the FBI, and they're still playing the same dirty games today.
01:39:03.000I have to agree with you there, and I think that the only reason that they didn't get masses there Under this Recreate 68 guise is because of the work that Jonathan Ellenhoff over at We Are Change Colorado did, because of the work that Alex Jones did, exposing them so that they were kind of marginalized.
01:39:20.000Instead of thousands, there were hundreds.
01:39:21.000But that doesn't stop Fox News for showing the hundred protesters that got arrested, for showing their gross tactics, where they're, you know, Actually, we've got one.
01:39:31.000We can't play it here, but Griff Jenkins and Fox News actually try to interview some of these people, and they are physically assaulted.
01:39:36.000The cameraman is physically assaulted, pushed out of the crowd, so is the anchorman.
01:39:43.000This makes the true voice of dissent and the real issues look like they don't matter, and the people that are for these issues are just crazies, and that's what they want to put forth to the American people.
01:39:55.000Well, I think the bottom line is, you know, it worked back in the 1960s.
01:40:01.000As you said, they didn't get the crowd there they wanted to get.
01:40:04.000And Fox News can put this on the air, but it doesn't mean anybody's watching.
01:40:07.000And we already know that Fox News viewership is in decline.
01:40:10.000The major newspaper readership is in decline.
01:40:12.000The audiences are coming over to your show, my show, your website, my website.
01:40:17.000Our numbers are continuing to climb at a time when most big city newspapers are having to let staff go.
01:40:22.000So the bottom line is they're still playing the games by the rules that worked back at the height of the Cold War before there was an Internet, and they don't get it, that they're dealing with a population that is far more sophisticated, far more educated, far more suspicious and skeptical.
01:40:36.000Absolutely, and you know all the papers are still saying that Russia is the aggressor, the bear is back.
01:40:53.000And that poor little Georgia, when we in fact know that, you know, U.S. and Israeli special forces were in Georgia for quote-unquote drills, they were moving in all this equipment, and then they attack South Ossetia, and the Russians come in to basically stop the ethnic cleansing.
01:41:09.000They actually get a 12-year-old American girl from San Francisco out of there.
01:41:12.000She goes on Fox News, she lets the cat out of the bag, and then the next day I watch Saakashvili I think so.
01:41:23.000But then he really shows his true colors in the final segment when he relays that he's part of the New World Order.
01:41:30.000By that verbiage, he says, this is about the future of...
01:41:33.000Uh, Europe, this is about the future of the New World Order, and Russia doesn't want that.
01:41:37.000So, you know, Saakashvili is under their thumb.
01:41:39.000I mean, for instance, he's been trying to get into NATO, he sent the third largest amount of troops into Iraq, uh, for our benefit, something like 3,000 troops out there.
01:41:47.000So, I mean, it's a very thin veil that is being exposed because of sites like yours and ours.
01:41:54.000Yeah, absolutely, and you know, it's interesting.
01:41:56.000Just today, the U.S. government has announced they will rebuild Georgia's military.
01:42:01.000I mean, that's basically an admission That this whole war by Georgia against Russia was our idea to begin with, because we're going to go in there and use taxpayer dollars to replace everything that was lost.
01:42:33.000We've been sponsoring everything that all you guys have done for the last six years.
01:42:38.000And we're honored to have a few other servers out there promoting a lot of your links and backing up everything that you've got to say.
01:42:49.000And we've got over 235 of our staff members here that are, I mean, just totally 100% behind what you guys are doing.
01:42:59.000And I'm located Right outside the Gunnison Mountains, right on the backside of Aspen, Colorado.
01:43:06.000And so, I got a lot of friends and everything down there that got a lot more info on this.
01:43:14.000Well, you know, I went down to Denver in February and I was quite shocked to see what a beautiful city it was and how aware a lot of people were.
01:43:21.000I was on like the mainline radio station there with a guy called Uncle Nasty, who everybody seemed to know.
01:43:26.000And, you know, he was agreeing with us.
01:43:44.000I mean, the skills that you have with WhatReallyHappened.com.
01:43:47.000I mean, you've put together a website now that has been up for, what, something like over a decade that has consistently had great information.
01:43:59.000I absolutely agree, and even if they don't want to bother with the website, the most important thing people can do is just talk about what they're thinking and feeling and knowing With everybody around them, because when you speak out, you're going to give other people around you the courage to speak out.
01:44:15.000And one of the biggest lies the government is trying to put out all the time is that people who don't agree with the government are a fringe minority, they don't matter, they're kooks, you don't want to hang out with them.
01:44:25.000That's the reason for this Recreate 98, is to make people who don't agree with the government look bad.
01:44:30.000But every time you speak out, you're going to find yourself, you're in a room of people who really do think the same way you do.
01:44:36.000And they were all staying silent because they thought they were the only one.
01:44:39.000So when you speak out, you let them know they're not alone, and you give them the courage so that they go and speak out.
01:44:47.000Absolutely. And we've got Alex Jones back on the line from the DNC.
01:44:50.000Alex? Yeah, I just had Fox News call me.
01:44:54.000Fox TV, Fox Radio, and ask why I'm saying kill Michelle Malcolm.
01:44:59.000They said, why did you say murder her?
01:45:01.000And I told them, I said, be very careful.
01:45:03.000And they said, well, it's already happened.
01:45:05.000If you just type into Google a bunch of news sources, Alex Jones says kill Michelle Malkin.
01:45:10.000I need all the listeners' help to contact all these blogs, all these news sites, and let them know because they are really going to try to demonize us all with this new hoax.
01:45:20.000This is what you do when you say torture's good, secret arrest is good, secret camps are good, the Marines didn't kill the puppy.
01:45:27.000This is what you do when you're a pile of crap, is that you lie and say that somebody is calling for I think so.
01:45:45.000launch huge hoax say Alex Jones said killer because they can't respond to the real facts Mike Rivero I mean I need everybody to hit this hard I'm begging you for help to analyze this because you're well respected because they're really trying to give us all a black eye with this with a new huge hoax but we can we can really catch them with their pants down I mean what do you recommend uh Mike Rivero I mean I mean, I need everybody's help here.
01:46:07.000This is a huge hoax they're launching.
01:46:10.000Well, I think what you're doing is absolutely the right thing.
01:46:12.000I've already got the Michelle Malkin video up on my website.
01:46:14.000I'm going to go back and add some commentary to it.
01:46:16.000Yeah, everybody needs to go out and start posting stories saying, once again, the corporate media is caught in a lie.
01:46:24.000They're claiming that Alex Jones said, kill Michelle Malkin.
01:47:17.000They're so used to an American people that are dumbed down to believe anything.
01:47:21.000And I think this is why the mainstream media is imploding.
01:47:23.000And even their little allied blog sites.
01:47:25.000Because, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if these people weren't hirelings Because, I mean, hell, we know Homeland Security is the main advertiser.
01:47:32.000Literally, Homeland Security, I was on Michelle Malkin's website last night, is her main and almost sole advertiser.
01:47:38.000So they're frickin'government-funded right in front of everybody, running around saying I'm calling for her death.
01:47:43.000She already had nutcases after it happened last night, come up to me on the street and start threatening me for being mean to that sweet little Michelle Malkin.
01:47:49.000These people have slandered and libeled and defamed me.
01:49:17.000Maybe I'll do a poll on the website if people think I should spend the money they've donated or given to us by buying products to sell them.
01:49:23.000I just am so – I can't believe how evil these people are.
01:49:26.000Every time I think they won't sink lower, they sink lower.
01:49:38.000gentlemen all right mike rivero what what is your assessment of the situation well one of the problems that we're dealing with is you and i and alex and all of the nine eleven truth is the people come to our website we are moral Citizens, we have spent our entire lives believing that you tell the truth, that you give other people a fair shot at the First Amendment rights that everybody is supposed to be heard.
01:50:02.000Unfortunately, we get this mindset called the true believer, and these are people who truly believe they know what's best for the country over anybody else, and this gives them a right to play by a different set of rules, to lie, cheat, and steal, sometimes even murder.
01:50:16.000Because they serve a higher purpose, or a higher law, or a higher...
01:50:20.000whatever it is they want to come up with.
01:50:22.000But they really convinced themselves...
01:50:24.000That everything that they do along these lines is really okay because it's for a greater good that they themselves have defined as the direction the nation should go in.
01:50:33.000And this is what happened when we had Nixon with his best and brightest, and they were breaking the laws left and right.
01:50:38.000They did the whole Watergate break-in, the sabotage of the Democratic primaries, because they truly believed they were what's best for the country, and therefore they were justified in breaking the rules to All right.
01:53:18.000If everyone starts hearing about the Secure Sleeve, it'll destroy our plan to steal credit card numbers at the mall with my new RFID reader.
01:53:24.000I know, but these are our friends, Clyde.
01:53:26.000They promised not to tell anyone else.
01:54:17.000Final segment with Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com.
01:54:21.000We've been talking about Recreate 68, the DNC, the Provocateurs, Michelle Malkin and Alex Jones.
01:54:27.000We played some of that on the show in the first hour and of course they're trying to say that Alex Jones called for Michelle Malkin's death when of course he didn't call for her death.
01:54:35.000He called for people to realize that she is saying put Americans in internment camps, trying to deny that our soldiers kill puppies, Folks, they kill a lot worse, okay?
01:54:44.000They really do feel like they're above the law, especially the Blackwater types.
01:54:48.000I mean, there's video out there of troops listening to Elvis as they gun down the cars behind them with, uh, you know, they have no idea who's in those cars.
01:54:57.000Those cars are hundreds of yards away, and they literally open machine gun fire, and that's what's really going on.
01:55:04.000We have Blackwater now openly, uh, opening up A security and intelligence arm.
01:55:10.000It's not just, you know, about them marching down, helping troops or helping quote-unquote private investors.
01:55:16.000Now they're going to be quote-unquote gathering intelligence.
01:55:18.000I mean, this was an intelligence op from the beginning in order for them to have their own privatized armies that will come in and kill us if necessary.
01:55:28.000We're seeing a tremendous amount of abuse within our own country and it's very obvious.
01:55:34.000That a government that is willing to simply ignore the rules of international, of warfare, international law of warfare, they're not going to be respecting their own laws here in the United States, and we've seen that with Bush declaring the Constitution to be a blankety-blank piece of paper.
01:55:48.000We certainly have seen the very real-world ramifications of his attitude.
01:55:53.000The First Amendment is now confined to free speech zones.
01:55:58.000The Fourth and Fifth Amendments are all but gone.
01:56:14.000They don't have to prove reasonable cause.
01:56:16.000They can just say we're investigating anybody we feel like, anytime we feel like, and just go in on fishing expeditions to try and find something we can use to bludgeon them with or intimidate them with to keep them in line and going along with what the government says.
01:56:31.000When the government is hunting through your life to find things they can use to control you with, that is a dictatorship.
01:56:36.000I'm with you 100% and obviously is a dictatorship and the bill that you're talking about, you know, Some false left-right guys like Russ Feingold and Ted Kennedy, yeah right, he's on our side, are speaking out against it.
01:56:49.000But this one literally says that they can create a profile on you, go and conduct interviews with your neighbors, not representing themselves as law enforcement, FBI, Homeland Security, or anything, just representing themselves as a normal person, and seeing if the neighbors want to throw you under the bus, and then if they do want to throw you under the bus, they're going to be an FBI asset, a Homeland Security asset, and it is Literally a new Stasi force they're going to use on American citizens who are not suspected of doing anything, Mike.
01:57:18.000Yeah, that's absolutely it, and you named them correctly.
01:57:21.000It's the whole new Stasi, or if you prefer, it's the Gestapo, and that's exactly what it is.
01:57:25.000And all I can imagine is that our president's grandfather must have filled George's head full of all kinds of good stories about his German business partner and what great ideas he had.
01:57:37.000Did you know that Adolf Fellow almost pulled it off and you really ought to give it a try and see if you can make it work because that sure seems to be what he's doing.
01:57:45.000Well, what do you feel about Obama going to Berlin and talking about quote-unquote global citizenship and in the future The global citizen will have to do more, not less, Mike.
01:57:56.000Well, before I was doing this, I was working 60 hours a week to barely push out 24 G's a year to, you know, rent a house and maybe be able to eat all week.
01:58:08.000I would agree with you, and this gets back to that quote from George Bush, where he's talked to that divorcee who's working three jobs, and he's saying, well, that's fantastic, that's truly American, you know, and then he makes jokes about, are you getting enough sleep?
01:58:20.000And, you know, our entire political leadership, Republican and Democrat, they seem to view Americans as just a population to be flogged to work harder and taxed more.
01:58:29.000They really do view us as an unending source of wealth.
01:59:07.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
01:59:14.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. Yes.
01:59:21.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:59:24.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:59:36.000Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
02:00:27.000I am Jason Bermas, subbing in for Alex until Thursday.
02:00:30.000Alex has been joining us throughout the show.
02:00:32.000You can watch live streaming or archived streams from the DNC over at InfoWars.com.
02:00:38.000Red Beckman, a legendary patriot, will be joining us at the beginning of the next segment.
02:00:44.000Mr. Beckman is the author of many books, you know, on the 16th Amendment never being ratified, on the IRS, and You know, the illegalities of a federal income tax, so we're going to be getting into that shortly.
02:00:56.000But before that, I would like to play my Joseph Biden teaser trailer that we played, I believe it was on Friday, but Joseph Biden, just named to the Democratic vice presidential nominee, and of course knew about the Pakistani funding of the hijackers in the United States, the same hijackers that were trained at U.S. bases.
02:01:20.000Senator Joe Biden, who had also met with the head of the Pakistani ISI, would have harsh words on the Senate floor.
02:01:28.000And the word should go out to those who pretend that they wish to be our friends, that they're going to have to make some very difficult choices.
02:03:02.000Fabled Enemies drops August 31st on PrisonPlanet.tv.
02:03:05.000We're going to be putting out a couple more teasers and one more trailer on continuity of government later on in the week.
02:03:11.000I guess before we go to the next segment with Red Beckman, author of The Law That Never Was, The Fraud of the 16th Amendment, and more, we'll take one more caller.
02:03:31.000The first thing with Mike Rivero, he was talking about how the whole idea of discrediting the movement using the anarchists.
02:03:40.000Sure. And I agree with that, but even if they can't discredit the movement like they did in the 60s, it still provides cover, I think, for the police to get away with just about anything they want.
02:03:51.000Because, well, I'm sure you probably already covered this this morning.
02:03:55.000I didn't hear the first part of the show, but I'm sure you're aware that they've already had, the police have already been using batons and pepper spray, you know, at the Denver Convention, right?
02:04:07.000I mean, if you go to loosechange901.com, we posted some of the crazier stuff in the first day over there.
02:04:13.000And then, on top of that, I mean, the police, Although, you know, you may say they've been violent, and those instances have been pretty restrained.
02:04:20.000Daytime. If you watch the hundred protesters or so that got arrested, they were anarchists, they were provocateuring the police, the police weren't hitting on them.
02:04:29.000You know, I'm no fan of them being in black uniforms or whatever, but they haven't broken out the rubber bullets, they haven't broken out the microwave guns, which make you feel like you're on fire and run away.
02:04:38.000So I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt before absolute chaos erupts.
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02:08:57.000Well, I've been very much involved ever since I got out of the military in 1952.
02:09:08.000While I was in the military, I got quite an education as to how our government was functioning at that point.
02:09:17.000And I didn't like what I'd seen and what I heard, but I was laboring under the same handicap that most Americans are, because I had gone to a government school, graduated from high school, a government high school.
02:09:34.000And so for many years, I tried to make the system work the way they taught me in those government schools.
02:09:43.000And eventually I came to the point where I understood that I had been miseducated, I had been propagandized, I had been...
02:09:55.000I've taken advantage of my gullibility and the fact that we put way too much trust in government and so for the last 35 years or better I have been very much an activist in trying to inform my fellow Americans of the precarious situation that we're in and of course it is becoming more precarious Yes.
02:10:37.000so gratifying it was so exciting for me because uh...
02:10:43.000it was the greatest response i've ever had from a talk show and i've done many many i guess hundreds of them over the years and uh...
02:10:53.000I found that there are more frustrated, angry Americans today than we've ever seen in a long, long time.
02:11:05.000Probably never before have we seen so many frustrated Americans, and they're frustrated because they don't know what to do to clean up the mess that has been created for the political quagmire that we're in.
02:11:23.000That gives me a little more reason for being optimistic.
02:11:27.000I've always been an optimist, and I've always been solution-oriented.
02:11:33.000I didn't become active in the freedom movement until I understood the answers and where we had gone astray and how we had been miseducated, misled, and to where I was able to communicate with my fellow Americans as to Absolutely.
02:12:02.000Bring back the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and I'm so warmed to hear that you had a great response.
02:12:07.000I mean, Alex Jones has just done an incredible job in waking up the masses to this false left-right paradigm.
02:12:13.000I want to get into how you became an author.
02:12:40.000I have a little different observation to make.
02:12:47.000Back in the 70s, we started using television.
02:12:53.000We produced television specials back in Montana, and we really shook up a lot of people, a lot of politicians and such.
02:13:05.000And people kept telling me, they said, you have to write a book, you have to put this down in a book where people can read this information.
02:13:15.000And of course, that was the last thing I ever wanted to do was write a book.
02:13:20.000And then I had an experience where a fellow came to one of our seminars.
02:13:27.000We had several hundred people there, and this fellow was a hard money man.
02:13:35.000He had a very large business, a gold and silver business.
02:13:45.000And then he told me, he said, I go to every international monetary conference there is, and he said, I've never heard anyone that could hold an audience like you.
02:13:58.000And he says, I've heard the best speakers in the business.
02:14:02.000And here I had been trying to get someone to ghostwrite for me, and I hadn't had any luck at that.
02:14:09.000And so I thought about this for several months, and then I told my missus, I said, You know, I said, Charlie told me that I can hold an audience better than most people, and I said, if I sit down and if I write like I speak, then perhaps I can hold the attention of a reader.
02:14:33.000And I sat down and I wrote the book Born Again Republic in about two weeks.
02:14:39.000And I didn't know anything about book printing or anything, so I made some mistakes, but I I think so.
02:15:03.000And, of course, I published a couple, three more shortly thereafter.
02:15:08.000One book, I let it go out of print, and that was due unto the IRS as they would do unto you.
02:15:16.000I may have to go back and reprint that one because we're still getting calls for it.
02:15:25.000And then, of course, I printed the book, The Church Deceived, which is still in print and will stay in print.
02:15:32.000And the iris and the black robe cover-up.
02:15:37.000And I wrote the book, Walls in Our Minds, in 89, 90 is when I first published it.
02:15:45.000In 97, I published the book, Why the Militia, and that book, it sold well, but it hasn't gotten near the coverage that it should, and because it has some tremendous ideas and thought in there, and I explain the Constitution in our system, our political system is designed by the founders.
02:16:15.000I explained it as no one has ever explained it.
02:16:19.000And, um, so, um, you know, I, I started with the television and we had great results with it.
02:16:30.000Uh, we, we had, uh, programs on the satellite, uh, in 1986 um, and that worked quite well, but the, it became too expensive and, uh, We just haven't produced much in the way of television now for some time, other than a DVD that I produced last year with Pat Shannon.
02:17:09.000The television is very effective, but it got too expensive for us to run the television like we did back in the late 70s and the early 80s.
02:17:26.000But in the late 70s, it was so interesting because we didn't have cable, we didn't have satellite.
02:17:32.000And in Montana, the only thing that people could get was their antenna, and they had to be in range, and there'd usually be just two channels, one or two channels at all.
02:18:50.000going to see a lot more of this kind of thing, where people are doing their research, they're doing their homework, and a lot of them out there, they know the IRS.
02:20:20.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
02:20:35.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
02:24:30.000I'm not sure if I'm digging that one either.
02:24:31.000I'll tell you, the Sunday show had some hot bumper music.
02:24:34.000Anyway, we are with Red Beckman, a legend in the Patriot movement, and he is the author of Born Again Republic, The Law That Ever Was, The Fraud of the Sixteenth Amendment, and Personal Income Tax.
02:25:07.000The IRS is a domestic terrorist organization today.
02:25:13.000And they were created by the federal judiciary.
02:25:17.000And the federal judiciary, the founders of this country, they were more concerned about the federal judiciary being a problem.
02:25:31.000They did not see the legislative and executive branches being that much of a problem, but they really understood how dangerous the judiciary would become, and Thomas Jefferson addressed it quite strongly.
02:25:46.000And really tried to advise us to be very careful and very protective of our rights because the judges would take the power and misuse it.
02:26:03.000Now, I just looked in my book here, Why the Militia, and here's one of the things that I said.
02:26:14.000We were taught We were taught the U.S. Supreme Court would interpret the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
02:26:21.000The nine justices of the Supreme Court are all lawyers and government employees.
02:26:28.000These nine lawyers have a paycheck that is evidence of a conflict of interest.
02:26:33.000Anyone who would trust nine government-paid lawyers to protect their freedoms from government is suffering from a bad case of propaganda poisoning.
02:26:45.000Well, I absolutely agree with you there.
02:26:47.000I mean, we've put, really, the government's power into such a consolidated few people's hands, and now with, you know, with 9-11, I mean, we just passed such nightmarish legislation that it was really the beginning of the end, not even the beginning of the end, but really the last death march for the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and even this week it's gone even further.
02:27:06.000They've announced that they now will be spying on citizens with no provocation, no cause, no suspicion whatsoever, and then they're going to be doing uh...
02:27:15.000cold interviews now representing themselves as fbi cia iraq's homeland security with their neighbors and then their neighbors want to turn on them then the law from a little bit of scratch and they can be part of the new stasi force in america uh...
02:30:10.000Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
02:30:11.000How do the American people know that 9-11 wasn't staged, wasn't engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C.A.R.?
02:30:19.000The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.
02:30:27.000Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
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02:33:06.000I hear the train a-comin' It's rollin' around the bend And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when I'm stuck in Folsom Prison You know, these criminals love to put people in prison enforcing their IRS codes when in fact the 16th Amendment was never even ratified.
02:33:28.000We're going to be going over that with Red Beckman in just a moment.
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02:33:44.000We already know that we're being raped at the gas tanks, that food prices have already gone up.
02:33:48.000Uh, I remember a couple months ago BJ's was restricting the amount of, uh, rice and grain that you could buy.
02:33:53.000I never thought in America that I would live in a place where they are rationing out food at stores that are supposed to be capitalist.
02:34:42.000I'm the co-author of The Law That Never Was, Volume 1. Bill Benson is the other co-author involved in that.
02:34:53.000In 1980, the summer of 1980, it was June of 1980, we had a conversation.
02:35:02.000I had a conversation with a gentleman in Montana, and we got to talking about the problems we've got in this country and one thing or another.
02:35:39.000And so we discussed it and I said, well, I said, with the track record that the politicians have for truth and telling us the opposite of truth, I said, we just about have to know that there's something wrong with the 16th Amendment.
02:35:58.000And this gentleman says, well, we better find out.
02:36:01.000And so There were some small business people and ranchers and farmers in Montana that kind of formed an ad hoc type of committee, I guess, and they called themselves the Montana Historians.
02:36:19.000And they started the process of checking out the state archives in the different states, the 48 states that we had in 1909.
02:36:32.000And, er, 1913 is when we had that many.
02:36:37.000We didn't have 48 states in 1913 when the 16th Amendment was proposed in Congress.
02:36:45.000Anyway, by 1983, in fact, by the fall of 1980, we knew when I wrote the book Born Again Republic, my first book, we knew that the 16th Amendment was a fraud.
02:37:04.000And, uh, but by, uh, January of 1983, we, uh, uh, those, uh, hard-working people up there in Montana did a, uh, a fantastic amount of work.
02:37:17.000Uh, one of the fellows was from Wyoming, even, that got involved, and, uh, they wrote a lot of letters and collected all these documents.
02:37:28.000We were We were just novices and amateurs, and we never realized that the courts would immediately say, oh, you've got to have it certified.
02:37:40.000All your documents have to be certified.
02:37:43.000Well, that was just part of our education.
02:37:50.000I was subpoenaed into a case in Fort Worth, Texas in March of 83. And, um, that was the first, I think, that the U.S. Justice Department knew, uh, what we had done.
02:38:04.000And, um, and of course, uh, then in 1983, um, or 84, I guess it was, uh, no, 83, uh, I was subpoenaed in a case in Chicago, and we tried again, and the judge told us that our documents weren't certified, and therefore they did not have to take them as evidence.
02:38:26.000And they sent a young family man to jail.
02:38:30.000And it was a blatant obstruction of justice.
02:38:38.000It was blatant on the part of the federal judge.
02:38:44.000He took his orders from Washington D.C., I'm sure.
02:38:56.000Bill Benson was working with the defense attorney as a paralegal, and Bill Benson, the defense attorney, Andy Spiegel, he agreed that we needed to send somebody to the states to collect the certified documents on this.
02:39:18.000And of course, the judge had more or less said that we had to have somebody go to the states personally and collect all of this documentation.
02:39:27.000And we could not have found a better man to do the job because he was a criminal investigator, had been a criminal investigator for the Department of Revenue for the state of Illinois.
02:39:39.000And when he went out to the states, he didn't take no for an answer from anybody.
02:39:46.000And he just stayed on this thing like a bird dog.
02:39:54.000Um, by Christmas Eve of 1984, uh, he called me from, um, uh, Olympia, Washington, and said, I've got the last state.
02:40:05.000And, uh, what a, an emotional thing that was.
02:40:09.000And, of course, then we published, uh, The Law That Never Was, Volume 1, in April of 1985.
02:40:17.000Of 80, yeah, 85. And, uh, so that's been out now 23 years.
02:40:22.000And, um, The Justice Department and the Federal Judiciary have obstructed justice, and this is a felony.
02:40:34.000They have not allowed this evidence to be brought by us to the Federal Grand Jury.
02:40:43.000We have not been able to use it in the defense of criminal cases, and it's been a real demonstration of judicial criminal activity and criminal activity on the part of justice department attorneys it is uh...
02:41:03.000it's going to go down in history as uh...
02:41:07.000being an example of how evil and how criminal uh...
02:41:13.000government can become if Yes, the people don't maintain control of government.
02:42:45.000I don't put out books without a solution.
02:42:48.000And so this is what we've got to get to.
02:42:52.000We've got to get the American people to recognize, you know, an alcoholic, he really can't be helped until he recognizes that he's got a problem.
02:44:04.000I was just looking at the Denver Post here.
02:44:08.000They have a picture of Alex and someone talking, and Alex is doing the talking, yet they say radio host Alex Jones gets an earful from demonstrator Nick Brown during Freedom March protesting the war in Iraq.
02:44:25.000Yeah, this is the guy who took the bullhorn and just started bullhorning Alex's face while Aaron was trying to get an interview with provocateur and false left paradigm idol, Ward Churchill, who equates all those people that died in the World Trade Center to Little Eichmann's.
02:44:41.000They're not Little Eichmann's, my friend.
02:46:52.000I mean, I hope it doesn't come to that where there's rations, bread lines, you know, 29 all over again, but in this new technocracy, it's going to be much worse.
02:47:00.000All right, let's jump to another caller.
02:47:40.000It seems very obvious and very, very lame is really the word that best describes it.
02:47:46.000Well, it's not very effective, but it's going back to their old school book of disinformation and just trying to equate him with the anarchists, with the people calling for other people's deaths.
02:48:23.000I wanted to talk to you about Internet, too, but I guess maybe that's a little bit off-topic, too.
02:48:30.000And I want to make a suggestion, and I'd rather do that while you were there, rather than Alex, because, you know, Sometimes he doesn't take too well to his suggestions, but it's not really suggestions.
02:48:52.000When you say Netflix, Netflix contacted us about loose change, so loose change could be on Netflix.
02:48:57.000The problem with that is there are all sorts of legal issues.
02:48:59.000I think Jones would be able to get around those legal issues.
02:49:02.000I'm pretty sure Endgame is also available via Netflix because it was put out by the disinfo company, Gary Badley and that group, which is also pretty big.
02:51:19.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
02:51:35.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
02:51:46.000Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
02:52:01.000Are you fed up with all the side effects of chemicals in your shampoos and detergents?
02:52:06.000Even fragrances can signal some 4,000 separate ingredients.
02:54:14.000Final segment with Red Beckman, patriot legend and author.
02:54:21.000And, you know, we just continue pushing on in the Info War.
02:54:24.000You know, we're presenting the DNC live and unadulterated.
02:54:27.000We're getting as much press as possible.
02:54:29.000Michelle Malkin has now commented on michellemalkin.com on Alex Jones'confrontation.
02:54:34.000Desperate to salvage the fizzle demonstration, 9-11 nutball Alex Jones started barking at me and attempting to make a scene and incite a riot.
02:54:42.000No, he wasn't trying to incite a riot, and no, he wasn't part of that fake demonstration of anarchists.
02:54:48.000He happened to be walking by, and he saw you there.
02:55:26.000I've gotten pretty good at identifying propaganda when I see it and reading between the lines in the newspapers and that type of thing.
02:55:37.000The one thing I wanted to mention today was that we need to communicate with the veterans.
02:55:43.000I've been told that there's over 30 million U.S. veterans of military Uh, service in this country.
02:55:52.000And when we went into the service, we took an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
02:56:01.000They didn't tell us anything about the domestic enemies.
02:56:04.000We weren't educated as to the fact that all great nations are always destroyed from within, just as is happening to us right now in this country.
02:56:16.000And, uh, we were not taught that the domestic enemies are by far the most dangerous.
02:56:23.000And the ones that we really have to pay attention to.
02:56:27.000And, and of course your videos of Alex Jones and, and, and all the different people out there.
02:56:33.000We're trying to communicate with American people how dangerous these domestic enemies are.
02:56:39.000Uh, the oath does not say that the military, that they have to obey Without question.
02:56:49.000The orders of the so-called Commander-in-Chief.
02:56:55.000We're supposed to be looking at what the politicians and such are doing.
02:57:02.000We're supposed to be able to have a working knowledge of the Constitution for the United States of America.
02:57:08.000And when we see domestic enemies violating the Constitution, Do something.
02:57:17.000And we need to communicate with the American veterans in this country.
02:57:22.000Because they have been misguided, misled.