On this episode of the Information Pack Radio transmission, Alex Jones talks about the recent pepper spray incident at the Rage Against the Machine free concert in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, and how the mainstream media is covering it up.
00:00:12.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000Well, we have a power-packed interview.
00:00:33.000Information pack radio transmission for you today on this Wednesday the third day of September 2008 Coming up in one hour spoken word artist Punk rock star you name it Henry Rollins will be joining us to talk about internet censorship the new world order and much more Then William Engel doll will be joining us a global expert on us Russian relations us NATO
00:02:12.000The Ralph Nader interview, we did the video of that.
00:02:16.000The Cindy Sheehan behind-the-scenes interview that nobody's seen or heard.
00:02:20.000We got some little bit of Sean Penn stuff.
00:02:24.000We got the Brolin information as well, and I've only got two guys, Rob Jacobson and Aaron Dykes, and I showed up this morning, and guess who was here all night?
00:02:35.000Guess who got here at 9 a.m. yesterday, and guess who was here this morning, Aaron Dykes, because he's on the case!
00:02:43.000He ended up doing research and putting together, I said, yeah, take a few days, make a video exposing Michelle Malkin, how they set us up.
00:02:51.000He's done that it's uploading to YouTube right now the guy has been working for 26 hours straight and I told him I said do not do this anymore But he said look I can't help it once I started the investigation of this.
00:03:08.000It's more true than what we'd even said originally We have them now Now, there are hundreds of YouTube videos alone of Michelle Malkin confrontation, videos edited to make it sound like I'm saying killer, major setups.
00:03:22.000I'm asking you, when this goes live on YouTube in the next hour, to go absolutely ape with it.
00:03:30.000I don't want to go into details here, but Michelle Malkin's company has been calling people associated with her, have been calling affiliates I'm on, Genesis, Emmis, other outlets, and trying to get me kicked off the radio.
00:03:46.000Now, that's laughable that Genesis would do that, but who knows with Emmis?
00:03:51.000And, you know, I've been getting calls from executives, you know, did you say killer?
00:03:55.000The whole issue is, you know, did I say killer?
00:03:58.000Because obviously, I would be a super loose can of them running around saying kill women in the streets, even though she says put us in camps and torture people.
00:04:08.000Well, I didn't say that, but their deception is quite thick.
00:04:13.000And I guess I'm going to have to sue Tom Davis, because that son of a bitch, excuse my language there, is still going on his radio show on WBAP.
00:04:21.000He fills in for Limbaugh, still saying I said killer.
00:04:24.000People call in and say, but it isn't on the video.
00:04:26.000And he says, well, Alex edited that out.
00:04:31.000Doesn't matter if the Dallas Morning News retracted it, removed it.
00:04:35.000You know, you've got people nationally on the radio saying I should kill this woman.
00:04:39.000And they mean to pin it on me, and so this video really exposes it A to Z from our cameras, other cameras, other perspectives, and it's going live any minute now, but the next hour it'll be up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
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00:08:56.000I knew behind the scenes that Ron Paul's got some mainline Republicans in his staff, which is fine.
00:09:03.000You know, they're kind of libertarian bent, but they're scared to death of 9-11 truth, and I knew that Ventura had been encouraged not to talk about 9-11 truth.
00:09:14.000But that he'd said, look, I'll talk about whatever I want to talk about, and then he was still invited to the rally for the Republic.
00:09:20.000And I never brought this out three weeks ago when I was I guess four weeks ago when I was first aware of this, talking to Ventura and talking to others, it just came up.
00:09:33.000And he gets up last night and says, yesterday afternoon, and says, you know what?
00:09:39.000A lot of people don't want me to talk about this, but I'm going to talk about it 9-11.
00:09:45.000I was talking to Ted Anderson that was in one of the VIP boxes, because he's a sponsor of it, and he said the John Birchers were squirming in their chairs.
00:09:54.000Look, there's over 200 examples of false flag stage terrorism that are declassified, and 9-11 official story is a fairy tale, and if we don't grow some cojones in this country and start telling it like it is, we're going to lose this.
00:10:46.000You know, I was criticized by the ADL for saying this more than a decade ago.
00:10:52.000I've been criticized by Southern Poverty Law Center.
00:10:56.000I have been criticized on national radio for claiming that Mossad protected top Nazis.
00:11:04.000Well, I just know it's mainline history, but you've got to read, you know, big thick textbooks on the subject.
00:11:09.000It's admitted even in mainline history books.
00:11:11.000You see, the Zionist, there's really three different groups of Zionists, but the classic Zionist, the original Zionist, you know, founded in the last 150 years, They thought some guy was the messiah and followed him and then he died.
00:11:25.000That happened over a hundred years ago.
00:11:28.000They actually wanted to force the Jews out of Europe and so they, early on, supported Hitler.
00:11:35.000And some of his top propagandists and people who were allowed to run synagogues in Berlin and art houses and movie houses right in the middle of it all were Zionists.
00:11:45.000And they would make Jews pay them a million in some cases, equivalent of $2 million a day.
00:11:54.000We're talking tens of millions back then.
00:12:08.000But regardless, a lot of money to get out of Germany.
00:12:11.000And they got laws passed, Zionist lobby.
00:12:14.000People always ask, why didn't Roosevelt let Jews into the U.S.?
00:12:21.000And why don't the Jewish groups criticize him for, predominantly the Zionist groups criticize him for not letting Jews into the U.S.?
00:12:29.000Well, it's because they were the ones lobbying to keep Jews out of the U.S. because they said in all these public writings, a cow in Palestine is worth more than a hundred Jews.
00:12:42.000And there's other quotes of, a dog in Palestine is worth more than a hundred old Jews.
00:14:25.000Uh, you know, uh, about the Germans, and the Germans are visiting, and while all this intrigue's going on, uh, at the, uh, British Lord's house, and how they're assessing when he's out of the room, which paintings they're going to take as soon as they took over England.
00:14:40.000I mean, that was exactly what the Nazis were doing.
00:14:43.000See, see, I exposed the Zionists, and I exposed the Nazis.
00:14:47.000I forgot I have a guest holding and I apologize.
00:14:50.000I looked at this headline here, Israeli Mossad let Nazi Mingala get away, Associated Press.
00:14:58.000And the notorious death camp doctor, but because he was CIA, they let him go.
00:15:04.000Well yeah, Klaus Barbie ran the first cocaine and heroin shipments after World War II into the U.S. and trained the CIA.
00:15:41.000Well, uh, last night We were at the Campaign for Liberty, and there was about eight of us with We Are Change.
00:15:48.000You know, we had the Ohio and the Colorado chapters up here.
00:15:52.000And we heard on the local radio station that Rage Against the Machine was going to do an impromptu concert at the end of a concert already going on at the state capitol.
00:16:05.000So we took half our team and rushed down there in time to get...
00:16:08.000Now let's be clear, there was already a permitted one and they said, hey, we'll just add a rage on for a few songs and the police said nada.
00:16:15.000Right. From what it appeared, the permit lasted until 7 and they were going to start at about 6.15 and we got there at about 6. As soon as the last performer was on, they cut the power to the stage, the state patrol padlocked the generators.
00:16:35.000And then they said Rage couldn't play, blocked him from getting on the stage.
00:16:40.000was right in the heat of that, getting the footage of the cops telling him That's Anthony Yasha with We Are Change Minnesota.
00:16:49.000Yep. And so they ended up going in front of the crowd off the stage after not letting them play and singing through a megaphone to the crowd.
00:17:02.000And then, of course, everyone was upset through this whole thing knowing that the police weren't So then, uh...
00:17:32.000Instead of it being an impromptu concert, it turned into an impromptu rally going down to the Xcel Energy Center.
00:17:39.000And, um, most, uh, everyone was peaceful through the protest, um, but St. Paul requires permits to be there.
00:18:14.000And the police were giving dispersal orders as the crowd was walking through.
00:18:20.000And there was obviously some people, uh, just standing there trying to, you know, just, uh, you know, protesting.
00:18:30.000And... We got the footage of all this.
00:18:32.000Here we got Anthony and Jeremiah right on the police line watching the police officer pull the pin on the tear gas, throw it into the crowd.
00:18:43.000And after they gave a dispersal order.
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00:24:21.000Right now, we're talking to Nick We Are Change, Minnesota.
00:24:31.000Nick, was something else you were going to add about what you saw last night with the police?
00:24:39.000Yeah, um, it was just, uh, the footage that we get up will speak for itself.
00:24:45.000I mean, just, unprovoked attack by police.
00:24:49.000Um, they tear gassed the crowd just at when they were expressing a First Amendment right.
00:24:54.000Uh, nobody that we saw or recorded was doing anything Awesome, and for ease of access, folks, you better believe it'll be up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com as soon as possible.
00:25:22.000In fact, as soon as we can see this video, and I've already seen some news reports about it, Yeah, we'll do, Alex.
00:25:42.000you have 90% of the American people wanting to control the borders and both parties say no, you have tyranny.
00:25:47.000When you have upwards of 80% of the American people not wanting any gun control and the Bill of Rights says don't have it, victim disarmament.
00:25:56.000But the government still does it, you have tyranny.
00:25:59.000When you have close to 80% being against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, but it intensifies and expands year after year, you have tyranny.
00:26:08.000And so the establishment knows the majority of people are against the government, the government's illegitimate, it's criminal, and so they're going to go out and try to have a chilling effect and intimidate people not to demonstrate, not to protest, and at any provocation they're going to open fire with rubber bullets, sound cannons, microwave guns,
00:26:25.000Pepper spray, mace, helicopters shining lights on you, beat, police beating you with an inch of your life, being tasered, they're gonna hang up signs saying electroshock use in this area, you know, inside their little FEMA camps.
00:26:39.000This is about a message of stay in your house, shut up, and take what we're gonna do.
00:26:47.000Federal handbooks over a decade ago we ran across said the black uniforms, the black mask are for intimidation.
00:26:53.000And they talk about how when an officer then wears that outfit, they take on that archetype.
00:27:00.000And then now police chiefs openly admit, yeah, we wear black to intimidate you.
00:27:06.000This is a rogue government that is completely and totally out of control, doing what it wants, when it wants.
00:27:13.000And the fact that I would be oh so happy the police You know, they didn't provocateur, or they didn't attack women with billy clubs in Denver.
00:27:22.000I mean, they did run over and threaten us to turn our cameras off once, but we stood up and then they backed off.
00:27:37.000I actually saw cops opening doors for people.
00:27:40.000I saw some police smile at us and wave at us.
00:27:43.000I... I had some cops say, keep it up, Alex, and I...
00:27:46.000Saw them put up with a lot of baloney from some of the anarchists that were rushing them and trying to provocate and throwing things at them.
00:27:53.000I saw manly restraint, which then allowed the First Amendment to flourish and didn't stall out.
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00:33:49.000It gets into who carried out the attacks, how the intelligence agencies Nextest in together.
00:33:56.000How they all came together as a nexus.
00:33:58.000You know, when you first see the film, it starts out from the perspective of the official story, saying, oh, we're told these hijackers did this.
00:34:06.000Some people watch the first five minutes and are like, what in the world?
00:34:09.000This is saying they were really hijackers?
00:34:10.000No. It goes with the official story and then shows how that's impossible and really breaks it down in a way that no other film has done.
00:34:19.000So again, ladies and gentlemen, Fabled Enemies available at InfoWars.com right now.
00:34:25.000You can also call toll-free to get the DVD, 888-253-3139.
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00:36:03.000And the sponsorship money comes in, the videotape money comes in, and I literally throw it like coal into a steam engine's furnace.
00:36:13.000I mean, it comes in and it gets thrown right back into that engine.
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00:37:40.000On the subject of the police state, there's no doubt the police are engaged in the provocations.
00:37:45.000One group of anarchists, after they were blocked from protesting, did smash some windows and turn some things over.
00:37:52.000Of course, Fox News was on hand for that.
00:37:54.000And those groups are foundation funded and have now been used as a pretext to crack down on everyone.
00:38:02.000This is shameful and before you roll your eyes, police and military have been caught in Canada, in England, in Australia, in Italy, in Russia, in the U.S. staging provocateur actions.
00:38:19.000Real anarchists, foundation anarchists that go out and stir up trouble, who are inadvertently funded by the government and don't know it, and then cops, crushers, anarchists attacking other police.
00:38:29.000But I wanted to play some of Democracy Now!
00:39:20.000You're watching Free Speech TV, and we are here with Amy Goodman, who was recently released.
00:39:25.000Tell us what happened with you and the other Democracy Now!
00:39:28.000producers. Well, Malia, I was arrested a few hours ago.
00:39:32.000I was actually on the convention floor talking to delegates at the Republican National Convention from Minnesota and Alaska, because Sarah Palin, the governor, has been nominated to be vice president.
00:39:43.000And I got a call on my cell phone that two of our producers, Sharif Abdel-Kadous and Nicole Thank you.
00:40:00.000went up to the police officer and asked to speak to the commanding officer.
00:40:05.000They put me in handcuffs behind my back.
00:40:08.000Uh, they forced me down on the ground.
00:40:10.000Um, they, although I had all of my ID, you know, to get me onto the floor of the convention, you need top security ID. I had my democracy now ID very clearly marked.
00:41:17.000We come from New York, where the police have paid out hundreds of millions of dollars as a result of the kind of activity that we're seeing some of here, after the Republican National Convention in 2004, when police just round up people wholesale.
00:41:34.000Sheriff Odokudus and Nicole Salazar heard a commotion downstairs by 7th and Jackson here in St. Paul.
00:42:23.000I said, sir, we were not responsible for that, meaning he was talking about a whole other time in his life.
00:42:28.000I said, I am sorry that at some point in your life you were hurt like that, but that does not justify doing this to our reporter, to our producer.
00:44:50.000I'm defending her, even though I saw her at the Ralph Venter event, and she pushed past me, and was like, Alex Jones, no way I'm talking to you, and ran off.
00:44:58.000Well, that's okay, you don't give me access, that's fine, I'm still going to report the facts of what happened to you.
00:45:52.000I've seen them come over and say right in front of the cameras, we're going to arrest you if you don't stop demonstrating on the sidewalk.
00:45:57.000And then the press comes over and says, You know, I'm yelling on the bullhorn, the police just threatened to arrest me and, you know, we don't leave.
00:46:06.000And the reporter comes over and says, is that true?
00:46:51.000You think I enjoy fighting these evil, powerful people?
00:46:58.000No, I do it because I have to, ladies and gentlemen.
00:47:02.000Now let's talk about somebody who's got a lot of courage.
00:47:04.000Here's Jesse Ventura yesterday talking about how people didn't want him to talk about 9-11 being an inside job, but he did it anyways at the rally for the Republic.
00:47:12.000And hey, I can support Ron Paul and them even though they shy away from this.
00:47:16.000I don't expect them to buy into everything we say or do, but they invited Jesse and encouraged him not to talk about it, and he did.
00:47:58.000When I was going through underwater demolition SEAL training, when I got to the demolition phase, I had a Chief Warrant Officer who taught me that there is no dumb question.
00:48:14.000That if you don't understand something, you are not out of line for asking a question.
00:48:22.000And I think that when you ask that question, you have every right and deserve to get an honest answer.
00:48:36.000Well, here's my question that I want you all to- two questions I want you to think about today.
00:48:43.000Number one, why has the United States Department of Justice not charged Osama Bin Laden for 9-11?
00:48:58.000Now, they charged him when he blew up our embassy in Africa in 98. Why the biggest terrorism act in history have they failed to officially charge him for?
00:49:12.000Why have they not convened a grand jury, presented their evidence, and got an indictment?
00:49:24.000Second, second, go to the internet and go to the FBI website.
00:49:32.000And go to their international list of top ten terrorists.
00:49:52.000Nothing! Now, when the FBI was pressed as to why 9-11 wasn't included, Their response was, we don't have enough evidence.
00:50:06.000Now people, if you're like me, that is extremely disturbing.
00:50:13.000We fought two wars, we've changed our entire foreign policy, and we've had the Patriot Act put on us, all supposedly because of Osama Bin Laden.
00:51:18.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:51:35.000Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
00:55:27.000We'll play more later of Tom Morello, one of the founders of Rage Against the Machine, who we had a chance to talk to behind the stage, backstage, last Wednesday night at a Ralph Nader rally that had more than 5,000 people and I think about 8,000.
00:55:44.000Tom Morello, they call me the mic watch.
00:55:47.000I think that's, you know, it's, it's, it's, When the media speaks of terrorism, it tends to be in the context of lone bandits from Middle Eastern countries, where most of the terrorism that actually occurs in the world is government sponsored.
00:56:03.000Whether it's the Bush administration or the Putin administration, terror is something that's not unfamiliar to government.
00:56:10.000just because they have Humvees and satellite tracking doesn't mean that it's not terrorism.
00:56:19.000It's nothing new that governments will, from Gulf of Tonkin to the main in the Spanish-American War, it's embedded, unfortunately, in the DNA of American politics.
00:56:38.000We'll do anything to get what we want at the end of whatever imperialist objective we have at the end of the day.
00:56:44.000I'm here tonight to support the Open the Debates event, and because it's very hard to say no to Ralph Maynard when he calls you on your cell phone and says, I'd like you to come play my event.
00:56:55.000I've always supported Ralph's politics as someone who's been able to To expand the goalposts and add ideas to political discourse that are ones that are not normally found in the Republican or the Democratic parties.
00:57:11.000Even though my girlfriend said to me, that Ralph Nader, he's trouble!
00:57:15.000I was like, you know what, he's trouble and that's why I love him.
00:57:18.000I've been trouble myself for much of my life.
00:57:21.000But I'm very happy to come here and support this, open the debates at that, and continue to pressure for issues that are very important to me, which are social and economic justice, ending the war, and environmental policy that is sane.
00:57:36.000The thing I appreciate about Ralph is that he's uncompromising, unlike most politicians.
00:58:33.000Is being exposed that just went live on YouTube.
00:58:35.000I need your help getting that out to everybody stay with us Thank you for listening to GCN be sure to visit GCN live.com today Do you like being a puppet, sir? Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
00:59:01.000How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?
00:59:03.000This was the engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trollateral Commission, the CFR.
00:59:08.000The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.
00:59:17.000Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
01:00:51.000Some of you out there with a very diverse audience might not know who he is.
01:00:55.000But we'll get out some of the websites and tell you about his tour later.
01:00:58.000Uh, that is going around the country and the world right now, but I wanted to get his take on web censorship, how they're trying to censor and shut down the web.
01:01:06.000He's really been fighting against that and I agree with him there.
01:01:09.000His kind of complex and nuanced view on terrorism, the police state, uh, we'll be talking to him here in the next 30 minutes.
01:01:17.000Henry Rollins, thanks for coming on with us.
01:01:26.000Well, I don't, uh, how am I nuanced or complex?
01:01:30.000Well, I'm trying to say it that way because I haven't had too much time to fully, constantly follow what you're doing, but every few months I see something you've said or done and it seems diverse.
01:01:39.000I don't want to say contradictory, uh, and so by that I meant you can actually flesh it out for us.
01:01:45.000Okay. Well, what's the point that sticks with you?
01:01:49.000You know, again, over the years I know people's views change too and kind of, uh, The police state in America?
01:02:26.000The fact that the Washington Post had to brief America that Homeland Security finds it okay to detain your electronic media, your laptop or anything, your iPod, when you come into an airport in America, a foreigner or an American citizen, and they can take your laptop or whatever and download the information, distribute the information to all the intelligence agencies at an off-site location.
01:02:50.000And hold on to that information and your computer or anything else for as long as they feel.
01:02:56.000Enough Europeans complained that finally the Washington Post broke this story.
01:03:00.000A lot of Americans, myself included, did not know that they could do that.
01:03:05.000I don't know how taking my laptop away from me is going to stop the anger that is engendered by people.
01:03:17.000In the world, when we go into their countries and push them around, and so checking my laptop, or reading my email, or being able to tap my phones easily, I don't know what that is, how that's going to help ease down terror in Saudi Arabia, or anger.
01:03:38.000Well, we know it isn't, but it's going to allow the military-industrial complex to train the American people.
01:03:44.000They have no liberties or freedoms and condition us to line up and put our hands up and have no Fourth Amendment.
01:03:49.000Right. And that's too bad, because a lot of Americans will start to think...
01:03:55.000The thing I really hate is when someone says, well, I've got nothing to hide.
01:04:20.000If you're in the big business, if you really need the rails greased to get things going, and you don't want government in the way of pushing things through, And one of the ways you kind of clear the path is to scare the living hell out of people.
01:04:35.000And when the going gets rough, the average get conservative.
01:04:39.000And a lot of Americans who hate this country or can't stay in that country, they get their information from Sean Hannity, yet they can't find this place on a map, nor can they program their own VCRs.
01:04:51.000And these are the people who want assault rifles.
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01:05:24.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there were Israelis, again, very much engaged in spying Either you
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01:08:58.000Radio talk show host, he is Henry Rollins.
01:09:01.000We were getting into His views on the whole police state and what's happening, and we were going over the fact that having you line up and have them kidnap your laptop without a warrant, that's all part of setting a precedent that there is no Bill of Rights or Constitution and using the threat of terrorism as a pretext.
01:09:16.000Henry, what do you think about government-sponsored terrorism like Gulf of Tonkin, or the Reichstag, or the USS Liberty, or the Maine Operation Gladio, Operation Cyclone?
01:09:30.000I mean, I'm not defending the Soviets, but it's been now declassified that the U.S. actually funded the Muslims, Mujahideen, to attack the Russians first to get them to come into Afghanistan.
01:09:39.000Zbigniew Brzezinski just published a book last year bragging about that.
01:09:42.000I mean, your take, basically, on that whole angle of society?
01:09:48.000I think it's basically all the same thing.
01:10:15.000We're the largest seller of arms in the world.
01:10:18.000And now that the thing in Iraq has the threat of cooling down in 2011, the powers that be are reheating the Cold War so we can just keep fighting somebody.
01:10:33.000And they have such contempt for the American people that they tell us on the news that Russia snuck attack Georgia when it's the complete opposite.
01:12:29.000And if you get in the way of business, You know, Paul Mullivan and other companies pulled their ads, and Roger Ailes isn't going to have that, Rupert Murdoch isn't going to have that, and even the sissies over at CNN aren't going to have that.
01:12:42.000So killing is our business, and business is good, and would you say the U.S. has been the best at doing business?
01:14:44.000all those trips were really informative you know when you get out there and that these parts of the world you can uh...
01:14:49.000you know learn quite a bit you've got one hell of a wanderlust don't you Yeah, I mean the world is interesting to me, and I have the means, I mean I can get out there and go, and so I do it.
01:14:59.000And that's what informs my opinions, and what I do on stage, what I write, what I photograph.
01:15:06.000And I read, I mean you read, I mean everyone likes to read books.
01:15:13.000Everybody actually doesn't, as you know.
01:15:14.000Well, it's true, but, you know, I think people who listen to your show or you, you know, you want to know, you get back a book open and you read it.
01:15:22.000Yeah, a lot of Americans don't read, and they don't read enough, and hopefully that changes, but...
01:15:26.000Not only that, you're saying we read...
01:15:28.000Well, the point is, I try and read a lot, and never have I had a book have the same impact on me.
01:15:36.000Like, a book about a country is never as relevant as my trip to that country.
01:15:39.000And so basically, knowledge without mileage is a bunch of bull to me.
01:15:56.000And so I kind of like the Indiana Jones version of things where you just kind of get in there and, you know, you walk through it and you see what happens.
01:16:03.000And I do that in Central Asia, the Middle East.
01:16:07.000Southeast Asia, on my own, every year.
01:16:11.000So, how many countries do you visit a year on average?
01:16:34.000Teetering on the brink of collapse, the dollar devalued, both parties incredibly decadent and delusional, the lies have never been more blatant.
01:16:46.000And B, where do you see the future of this nation?
01:16:48.000Well, I agree with what you said, but I'm optimistic in that I think America is going to have to hit a very hard bottom line.
01:16:57.000I mean, we're going to have to fall on our collective butts very hard.
01:17:00.000And it's like a cocaine addict who might take another million dollars worth of coke for this person to find out that coke is not the answer.
01:17:08.000And so maybe another million foreclosures.
01:17:11.000And finally, even Kudlow and company will have to admit that all is not well in America.
01:17:18.000And so maybe that's what it's going to take.
01:17:20.000Maybe it's going to take more countries in the world just basically starting embargoes on America.
01:17:40.000But I do think that there's enough positive, progressive people in America who are into things like the reality of global warming and the fact that we can pursue alternative fuel sources, that we don't have to drill ourselves out of every possible energy shortage.
01:17:55.000And I think that will eventually prevail, because there will be no real way to sustain these fake wars.
01:18:04.000I mean, the war in Iraq, the invasion and occupation of Iraq, is quite unsustainable.
01:18:09.000There's just not the money or the manpower.
01:18:10.000I mean, I don't know where they're going to grow these people.
01:18:12.000But that shows the delusional aspect in Vietnam, one terror, World War II, one terror.
01:18:17.000There's guys starting their fifth terror, and they're completely, you know, 18 times the record suicides previous.
01:18:54.000And, you know, they waited on the sidelines through a lot of the Bush administration, certainly through the Clinton administration, and they got their game together, like Project for a New American Century and all that.
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01:22:00.000Yeah. It is now time to reign in evil and bring them to justice.
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01:24:41.000I think you should have a gun in your house if you want to defend your family.
01:24:44.000I don't think any family, you or me, needs an assault weapon.
01:24:49.000If I was a policeman in your town, And I know I'm going up against people with bullets that can go through my door, in through my body and through the body of my partner.
01:25:00.000And I am not given ceramic plated body armor which stops an AK-47 round.
01:25:51.000Or, you know, take the rifle out of anyone's cold, dead hand.
01:25:55.000Well, I mean, I see your point there, but, I mean, here's another issue.
01:25:57.000The sun has no spots on it, it's cooling down, the earth goes up and down in temperature.
01:26:02.000I have no doubt we need cleaner fuels, that the oil companies are corrupt, but just to then say, well, we need a global tax to stop global warming, you know, I've got a lot of issues with that.
01:27:15.000I mean, Malthus said that we're all going to die of starvation.
01:27:20.000And, you know, the Industrial Revolution momentarily proved him to be wrong.
01:27:25.000And now, as soon as you give more people more food, they breed more.
01:27:28.000You know, there's a lot going on with food systems in the world, and the unsustainability of soils, and the dangerousness of artificially produced nitrogen, and the fact that we're breeding these animals so hard and so fast that, you know, they're mutating.
01:27:43.000And uh, you're eating strange meat, and uh, you know, your E. coli is going zoonotic more than, uh...
01:27:59.000Uh, I was reading, uh, Jihad by Ahmed Rashid, and, uh, the man sitting next to me, uh, called me in to Homeland Security, and I was deemed a person of interest for reading a New York Times bestseller put out by the, uh, Give us a one minute rant on how they're trying to shut
01:28:31.000Well, I think they're trying to regulate web speeds and accessibility.
01:28:36.000I think the short of it is that the man is afraid of you having access to information lest you start questioning his actions or maybe learning history so you're doomed not to repeat it.
01:28:47.000And so I think the net is wildly informative and they don't want that.
01:28:51.000They want you to believe the bumper sticker like boycott France or anything that comes Well, I agree, and I've seen some of the rants you've done where you break down the internet, too, and how they're trying to regulate.
01:30:17.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
01:30:24.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:30:34.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:30:45.000Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
01:31:00.000You ever have one of those days where everything goes right?
01:31:04.000First, I get the best parking space at work.
01:31:06.000Tonight, I have a date with a very lovely Rachel.
01:31:10.000And today, I gave a killer presentation in Sydney, finalized a contract in London, and demoed our new product in Boston.
01:35:08.000It's infuriating that we have all these great tapes and they just go stale.
01:35:13.000So you're like, get them up, get them up, get them up.
01:35:15.000And all the cool people we met and all the interesting things they said.
01:35:18.000And then on top of it, this whole Malkin incident and how they just lie and say that you said things like, kill Michelle Malkin, which is utterly ridiculous, completely untrue.
01:35:27.000And we proved it now with angle after angle.
01:35:30.000And Malkin, uh, with her internment camps, I couldn't believe how many...
01:35:34.000And we've got them touching me first, uh, we've got them elbowing me first, and then I do it back, but that's okay for them to elbow and push me, I just can't do it back, cause I did it harder, I said, don't touch me, okay, that's it, I'm gonna push ya.
01:35:45.000Uh, you know, you're an elbow, I'm gonna elbow you right back.
01:37:07.000We don't know his name, but we can see him from multiple video angles.
01:37:11.000The real hoax is that Michelle Malkin is supposed to be this cute little woman, and, you know, she's always preaching not to go off of, you know, diversity and not to judge.
01:37:25.000Well, this crowd is going off the fact she's a woman, yet she's pitching these horrible ideas of internment camp, defending murder of puppies, when nobody cares about dead Iraqi children, dead Iraqi adults.
01:37:38.000She's saying FEMA camps are good, torture's good, makes jokes about it.
01:37:42.000And that's not just something you shouted at her in the crowd, as though free speech wasn't your right, as though you're not supposed to confront Horrible, monstrous ideas.
01:37:50.000But on YouTube, there's just endless clips, hours and hours of her pitching her book, The Case for Internment, and paralleling it with the Japanese internment.
01:38:00.000And now arresting whole groups of Americans, whole races, whole religions.
01:38:04.000Criticize the government, go to a camp, and then I'm not supposed to say, I don't like you pushing me to go on a camp when it's clearly a talking point.
01:40:37.000So, so, so, tell us what we'll see on this video.
01:40:40.000Well, we did our best to compile all our video angles, as well as some of the YouTube angles, so you could really see what's going on, who's shouting what.
01:40:57.000I also didn't even get in her space, because I don't get in people's space when I'm arguing with them.
01:41:01.000Yeah, and you know, the thing about editing is you watch these moments, moment by moment, and the moment she decides to walk away and end the friendly conversations, when you call out Cheney and his terror thing, Cheney's, uh, government-sponsored terror.
01:41:14.000Yeah, I bring up, it just came out that Cheney wanted to stage terror, and it was like I'd shown a cross to a vampire.
01:41:19.000I noticed nobody wants to talk about that.
01:41:21.000Oh, they don't want to talk about that, no.
01:41:22.0009-11 Truth is, uh, you know, it's cuckoo stuff, but, you know, Cheney having meetings about shooting Uh, Navy SEALs to start a war with Iran.
01:41:32.000That's, you know, nobody can talk about that.
01:41:50.000She puts her chin up, closes her eyes like it was mind control, and turns.
01:41:55.000That was actually the moment she leaves.
01:41:57.000That's also the moment that Mr. Pajamas steps up and starts becoming the bodyguard.
01:42:03.000I found out that they had never met before, but they have, you know, friendly blogs.
01:42:07.000Yeah, there was a whole constellation, or pilot fish, following the, you know, the main wart.
01:42:14.000Uh, and then you had some local blogs who were affiliated with the guys dressed up like jesters, who ran up, hey, we're with Alex Jones, and later are yelling F-Alex Jones, and then are friends with Malkin's people.
01:42:25.000Well, it's a whole canard of, was it a, a thought-out stage conspiracy of six people or nine people?
01:42:32.000I don't think any of this was planned, it's just that they're disingenuous, won't take free speech.
01:42:36.000Well, it was her supporters, and they did stand over me, screaming, kill Michelle Malkin.
01:42:44.000Uh, it may well have been, you know, we don't have that proof in the video, but the point is they won't stand up for free speech, they won't defend those ideas.
01:42:52.000Yeah. So, so that's the point, is that, is he, first I said kill Michelle Malkin, now I've proven I didn't say it, but now it's, well, prove they're not with you.
01:43:00.000Yeah, first it's Alex Jones is your buddy, then it's kill Michelle Malkin, then it's Alex Jones is a corporate stooge, then it's F Alex Jones.
01:43:39.000And he was following us again the next day, looking at TheLeft.com.
01:43:42.000Yeah, because he has, when we were photographing him running to the police, he has pictures of us running after him, and we were just trying to find out why he's following us and why he's telling lies, trying to set up to the police.
01:43:53.000We have on tape another 9-11 truther filmed him setting up Alex Jones to the police.
01:43:59.000Look, they got Homeland Security as their sponsor.
01:44:09.000They thought they were going to go and make fun of a leftist protest that really stood for nothing.
01:44:14.000But see, it turns out, the day before, it looks like it's the same green shirt guys, but in different shirts, starting the F.U. Fox they put on TV, and then Malcolm reported she'd been attacked before, and then they screamed, kill, kill.
01:44:25.000So it looks like, whether she knows it, she's got protectors that go around with her screaming, kill, kill, so they can then say that in the media.
01:45:20.000It's about a 60-40 split right now, but it's up to you, ladies and gentlemen.
01:45:24.000Will you get the video and send it to every neocon?
01:45:29.000By the way, when people start calling WBAP about this Mark Davis, he is still going on air saying, I edited video and then I did say killer.
01:45:36.000And folks, I do not want to spend your money shooing them.
01:45:38.000I want to make new TV shows, radio shows, get big guests for you, break news.
01:45:45.000I mean, it's easy to sound tough and say, I'll sue, I'll sue.
01:45:47.000I mean, I've sued people four times and won every time.
01:46:03.000I mean, this is just trashy, evil people, folks, and they're so used to an audience they can lie to and deceive and just get away with all of it.
01:46:10.000They lay revel in how stupid the general public is.
01:46:14.000Aaron? It's really arrogant because we have them on video, these guys in the green shirt, and his buddy saying, kill Michelle Malkin, while you're trying to have a conversation with Malkin about her internment camps.
01:46:53.000Uh, a bunch of other exclusives for PrisonPlanet.tv members.
01:46:57.000Don't forget the new film, Fabled Enemies, is out.
01:47:00.000And I've noticed, since we crossed this line with Fabled Enemies, to really criticize the intelligence agencies that were involved, I'm noticing the heat is just, it's like somebody flipped a switch.
01:47:10.000Well, all these bloggers seem to work for the same people as well.
01:47:14.000Yeah, well, it's, it's, it's not gonna work, folks.
01:47:16.000Every time we get attacked, we only get bigger.
01:49:25.000It's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
01:49:30.000But the good news is Liberal, conservative, libertarian, every bigwig I talk to, former German defense ministers, former Italian presidents, members of the Japanese government, Hollywood people, it doesn't matter who it is I run into, Rage Against the Machine, you know, mainline neighbors down the street, people at church, they all know the government's criminal and out of control, and the lies and frauds you've been selling aren't working anymore.
01:49:59.000By the way, this video also gets into her past statements.
01:50:04.000She's always saying, did you read my book?
01:50:20.000I mean, I normally don't judge a book by its cover, but didn't she just seem troll-like and demon-like and hateful?
01:50:26.000I mean, she was a really disgusting person.
01:50:28.000She had a certain look on her face, if you will.
01:50:31.000And I mean, she thought that arrogant hate of us and dismissing us, that we would just grovel and quail like shrinking violets, you know, at her not liking us.
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01:56:38.000Let's go to George Butler and Richard Reeves.
01:56:41.000They're in the Genesis Crows announced up in Minneapolis, St. Paul, in Burnsville to be precise.
01:56:47.000Hey guys, give us a quick synopsis of what you've seen.
01:56:50.000Okay, Alex, last night on September 7th, Rally for the Republic was held in the center in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and it was called the Target Center.
01:57:03.000There were 15,000 people there, and it was crazy, and Ron Paul gave an inspirational speech.
01:57:14.000I'll tell you what was inspirational, Richard, was The fact that Jesse Ventura wouldn't shut up and talk about 9-11.
01:57:22.000You know, I made a comment right after his speech that Don Weed earlier gave a very fine speech, but the most powerful moving speech was given by Jesse Ventura.
01:57:33.000That's right, because we all know that 80% of people there are 9-11 truthers anyway, so why should we be muzzled, huh?
01:57:42.000We absolutely weren't, and 9-11 Truth is highly represented here at the Rally for the Republic.
01:57:47.000So there's no shortage of 9-11 truthers.
01:57:49.000There's no shortage of people wanting liberty and to uphold the Constitution.
01:57:55.000So it's really been a great time here so far.
01:57:58.000We've really gotten a lot of people fired up and we've brought in a lot of neocons and woken them up and it keeps growing every day.
01:58:05.000Our movement just keeps growing every day.
01:58:06.000And C-SPAN's been carrying it all live on C-SPAN 2. That's a big victory right there.
01:58:12.000All of this is about growing the Movement of Liberty, waking people up, and I'm just so glad that Ron Paul was able to make it with Carol in such dire straits.
01:58:19.000We're going to come back in about 60 seconds for five more minutes with Richard Reeves and George Butler.
01:58:24.000They're there co-hosting live radio shows, four Genesis and live feeds there, and doing a fabulous job.
01:58:30.000So we'll talk to them when we get back for five more minutes.
01:58:34.000Then I've got an expert joining us from Germany about the situation between the United States and Russia.
01:59:07.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
01:59:14.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:59:24.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:59:35.000Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
02:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:21.000We are talking to Richard Reeves, who has gone to Bilderberg with us, and I've known him for about 10 years, I guess about 8, 9 years.
02:00:41.000He also drove us in the RV and did a great job with the live video feeds.
02:00:47.000He was the camera guy there, getting attacked quite a few times.
02:00:50.000And, of course, George Butler, who's been a guest on the show and a talk show host here on Genesis as well, grew up there covering it live.
02:01:00.000The new Michelle Malkin video, our piece on her trying to set us up is out.
02:01:10.000I mean, these are hyped up events, aren't they?
02:01:13.000Oh, absolutely, and the Michelle Malkin thing was a setup, and I haven't seen this new video clip you're talking about, but I'm sure it really illustrates exactly how the setup occurred.
02:01:22.000And speaking of being attacked, I was attacked on Monday by the anarchists up here.
02:01:26.000I was trying to give Terry, one of our cameraman friends from Austin, our location, and they heard me giving the address, and all of a sudden they thought I was a cop, and so they started to attack me, and I thought for a minute, wow, a repeat of Denver, only worse.
02:01:39.000Well, so the anarchists, again, attacking you.
02:02:08.000Well, it was definitely a tense moment there because they, you know, they'd singled me out there for a little bit and I was right there in the midst of them.
02:02:14.000They told me I better leave, so I just started backing out and I got out of there and later on I got back in and got some more photographs.
02:02:20.000See, I'm glad I didn't go because I'm tired of backing off.
02:02:22.000I'd have just beat the hell out of them.
02:02:40.000You know, Alex, what you've been saying for years, I just went, I just came out of the Xcel Energy Center, which is the GOP, you know, convention center, and it's surrounded by all kinds of barriers and fences, and there were more police and security than there were people this morning when I was there.
02:02:57.000Well, listen, I would like to get you guys on tomorrow in studio to give us a real report on what's happened.
02:03:03.000I got a big guest coming up after the break, or if you guys want to hang around, For 30-40 minutes while this guest is on, I'd like to get a real report from you guys about what you've seen and hear more, but anything else, George?
02:03:14.000Well, we're going to be covering the GOP now in St. Paul, and like I said, I went in there this morning and looked at the center and everything else, the Xcel Energy Center, and we intend to set up maybe in a park there this evening sometime and maybe do a live broadcast, but we don't have any plan for sure.
02:03:32.000Well, Alex, let's set up with your show for tomorrow because we didn't know we were going to be invited to be on the show with you.
02:03:38.000Ted just kind of put us in here and threw us on the air with you.
02:03:49.000You're getting a tour of the broom closet, I'm told.
02:03:51.000We're getting a full tour, that's right.
02:03:52.000You know, Alex, you've always said about this police state, but this is the first convention I've been to with as much military and police.
02:04:00.000I mean, secret service cleared me through the southwest gate, you know.
02:04:04.000But then you had to go through more of the government.
02:04:06.000Then I went through another airport deal through all the scanning and all that later on.
02:04:11.000There were several different layers of security here.
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02:08:02.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
02:08:09.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:08:20.000He's an economist and writer and author of the best-selling book on oil and geopolitics, A Century of War, Anglo-American Oil Politics, and The New World Order, which has been translated into French, Arabic, Koran, German, Croatian, Turkish.
02:08:34.000He completed Seeds of Destruction, The Hidden Agenda of the GMO.
02:08:39.000So I want to get him to talk about that.
02:08:40.000He's with us for the rest of the hour.
02:08:44.000He has written on several political and issues like the economy, geopolitical, energy, agriculture, World Trade Organization, and he contributes regularly to a number of publications, including the Asia Times, Asia Inc., Japan's major publications.
02:09:02.000His bio just goes on and on, and we'll give you some of his websites and places you can check out what he is talking about.
02:09:10.000So it's really great to have you on with us, sir.
02:09:15.000Again, he has a degree in politics from Princeton University, graduate study in comparative economics, University of Stockholm.
02:09:22.000He worked as an economist for the Free Lance, journalist for the New York and Europe, and it just goes on and on.
02:09:29.000He also covered subjects like the collapse of the USSR in 97-98 for Well, Russia Today talk about how close this was coming to nuclear war, something that some top Air Force generals and others have concurred and said.
02:10:03.000Now, I kind of babbled through your bio because it's so lengthy.
02:10:06.000Tell us a little bit about yourself, what's most important to know, and then break down what's currently happening from a historical and economic perspective and bringing us up to the current escalation with Russia.
02:10:18.000Okay. Well, I'll try to do it succinctly here.
02:10:22.000Basically, I've spent the last 35 years or so since the early 70s when the The first oil shocks hit, and then we had a simultaneous food crisis.
02:10:35.000I've worked as an economist and a researcher and as a freelance journalist in New York at that time, and then over here in Europe, and have been following these events.
02:10:48.000And what struck me again and again and again were the parallels that kept repeating themselves.
02:10:54.000And as I dug deeper, I began to Understand more about the networks of power that operate in our world today.
02:11:02.000And it goes back to a term that many people use and very few people really understand the meaning of it.
02:11:12.000And the term was invented, actually, by a British geographer.
02:11:19.000Not a geopolitician, but a geographer named Sir Alfred Mackinder in 1904.
02:11:24.000And he laid out a speech To the Royal Geographic Society called the Geographical Pivot of History.
02:11:30.000Now, this may sound like an off-the-track remark, but I'll bring it right back to what's going on today in Georgia and the Central Asia and the Caucasus.
02:11:40.000In that speech, he said, there are land powers and there are sea powers.
02:11:45.000England is a sea power if we control the crucial choke points of the world's oceans.
02:11:52.000And we have to make sure That there is no land power that can challenge our hegemony.
02:11:59.000The only land power that could do that is Eurasia.
02:12:02.000Now, by Eurasia, he meant everything from Western Europe through Russia and on to China and India.
02:12:10.000And he said if a country controls Central Europe, by which he meant basically Germany, France, Poland, and so forth, If Central Europe, who controls Central Europe, is able to control what he called the Heartland.
02:12:27.000Now, the Heartland for Mackinder was essentially Russia, Russia and Ukraine, which is really historically, intimately tied to the history of Russia, culturally.
02:12:37.000And if you control the Heartland, Russia, then that power is able to control what he called the World Island, which meant all of Eurasia, including China and India.
02:12:50.000Including also the Middle East, although that was really a little bit before the extent of the oil reserves in the Middle East were known.
02:12:58.000And if you control the world island, you control the whole world.
02:13:03.000Now, Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, all of the post-war American foreign policy strategists, Brzezinski, who's the prime foreign policy advisor of Mr. Obama today, They are schooled in the tradition of Sir Alfred Mackinder.
02:13:19.000American post-war politics has been based on this geopolitics.
02:13:23.000Drop an iron curtain across Europe, separating Western Europe from Russia, the Soviet Union at that time.
02:14:07.000And that speech was delivered in Fulton, Missouri.
02:14:11.000Churchill was a Brilliant master of political manipulation.
02:14:16.000He once said that the truth in times of war is too important.
02:14:19.000It has to be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies.
02:14:22.000Well, he was pretty good at that bodyguard business.
02:14:24.000And he played a game of poker with Harry S. Truman down there in Fulton, Truman's home state, and graciously lost to Truman.
02:14:33.000So Truman was feeling pretty perky up against this great war hero, Churchill.
02:14:39.000And the U.S. More and more got drawn into this idea of creating this Cold War boogeyman image of communists under every bed, and hiding in the State Department, and who knows what.
02:14:53.000And this Iron Curtain essentially kept Western Europe and Russia separated for the good part of 50 years.
02:15:02.000And Stalin used the posturing to help build up his whole apparatus of control as well.
02:15:08.000Then you had the world simply divided, and at that time China was very much integrally tied to Stalin's Soviet Union until the 60s.
02:15:23.000So you had a whole section of the world that was separated off, but that state of permanent tension, that national security state, I'm just Completing and preparing for publication a new book called Full Spectrum.
02:15:43.000I mean, you're really into all the very same subjects I'm into, and a much greater scholar.
02:15:48.000And of course, who wouldn't be into wanting to know what the shadow government's doing, the COG's doing?
02:15:52.000So let's spend some time in this hour getting into the new book.
02:15:57.000There's so many things I want to talk to you about.
02:16:00.000You've also written about confessions of an ex-peak oil believer.
02:16:04.000How you got suckered into that, but there's a lot of sophisticated propaganda there.
02:16:08.000But yeah, let's now telescope it down to what's currently happening.
02:16:12.000Okay. Let me take your time, take your time.
02:16:15.000Okay, what we've had since the end of the collapse of the Soviet Union, Gorbachev threw in the towel, raised up the white flag of surrender and said, okay, our system has failed miserably.
02:16:30.000Yours has been a brilliant success in the West, and we can't compete with you anymore in the arms race, in the missile defense, the Star Wars, in Afghanistan, one thing after the other.
02:16:45.000So we want to peaceably reorganize our society and come into the Western market system.
02:16:53.000And part of the negotiation was that James Baker III, was the secretary of state under father bush at that time
02:17:21.000East Germany and West Germany, would be allowed to continue to be a member of NATO and not be neutral, like Finland or Sweden or Switzerland, Then the United States would not extend the borders of NATO eastward into the former Poland and the former countries of the Warsaw Pact.
02:17:41.000Well, beginning 1991, the U.S. began negotiating and propagandizing and enticing the former Warsaw Pact countries around Russia.
02:17:57.000And then a few of them that wouldn't join, like Ukraine and Georgia, well, the State Department and the U.S. Intelligence Services, they organize what they call color, what's called in the East, color revolutions.
02:18:10.000And you had in, the first one was in Serbia against Milosevic.
02:18:14.000The State Department, the National Endowment for Democracy, which is a, was the president of it, said one time, we do what the CIA used to do, only as an NGO.
02:18:26.000They use U.S. taxpayer monies to upset regimes that are not playing on the same sheet of music as the Washington administration in any given situation.
02:18:40.000So, Georgia, the Republic of Georgia, which is a very, very sensitive, tiny little country right on the border of Russia in the southern part of the Caucasus, And Ukraine, which really goes back a hundred centuries, back into the old days of Kiev Rus, culturally and so forth, it's indistinguishable from Russia.
02:19:03.000And, of course, all the natural gas pipelines to Western Europe that are so vital for the Russian economy, most of them flow through Ukraine.
02:19:12.000So, the Color Revolution put Mikhail Saakashvili, educated at Columbia University Law School in New York, Groomed and trained by the U.S. State Department.
02:19:24.000And he was brought in as a 37-year-old to come in and be President of Georgia on the promise that he would bring Georgia into NATO.
02:19:34.000And the same thing with Yushchenko, who just underwent some problems with his government in Ukraine today.
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02:24:14.000William, before we go any further, fire out a list of your books, whether...
02:24:18.000website people should visit or people want to learn more about your research sure uh...
02:24:23.000the first one is called a century war angle american oil politics The second one is called Seeds of Destruction, the Hidden Agenda of Genetic Manipulation.
02:24:34.000That's available at www.globalresearch.ca.
02:24:39.000The third one is just in final preparation, type setting, and so forth.
02:24:45.000It's due to be out, I would say, end of September, early October, and that people can go onto my website.
02:24:51.000The title of that, and that goes into the background, the little-known background of this whole military drive of the Pentagon, Since the end of the Cold War, to simply literally place military bases in every corner of the world.
02:25:06.000Well, General Curtis LeMay wanted to nuke everybody.
02:25:09.000Yeah. It's called Full Spectrum Dominance, Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order.
02:25:15.000Okay, well, we're going to cover that.
02:25:19.000I can't think of a better term, a better name.
02:25:21.000Let's finish up with what just happened in Russia, and then we're going to get into all that.
02:25:25.000Okay, the website that people can go to for more information on all of this is www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net Or just Google my name and you'll come to it eventually.
02:25:51.000So you brought us up to the color revolutions, putting these puppets in, giving them weapons, giving them arms.
02:25:58.000The evidence is pretty clear now, but you're closer to the conflict than I am, that the U.S. basically gave the order to Well, I think if the U.S. didn't verbally give the order,
02:26:28.000and I have no court proof that they verbally gave the order, they gave every encouragement and every indication to Saakashvili in Georgia that if he marched into South Ossetia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the two breakaway provinces, they fought a bloody, bloody war with Georgia.
02:27:31.000Over here in Europe, the media coverage is a little bit more honest, although there's heavy pressure from the State Department to tilt the news of the European governments.
02:27:43.000But how do you tilt the news that Georgia launched sneak attacks on two Russian ethnic provinces?
02:27:50.000Yeah, well, they just omitted that fact in CNN.
02:27:55.000I was totally astonished when I watched it.
02:28:06.000At a certain point, you run into what's called the Grievous Principle.
02:28:11.000A general in the Greek Civil War, General Grievous said that if you do covert operations at a certain point and scale them up beyond a certain point, they become so obvious that they lose their effect and they backfire on you.
02:28:27.000I think there's a very real risk of this, but...
02:28:45.000Well, I think the point is, this is a giant on a feet of clay, and this is...
02:28:51.000The elites The Council on Foreign Relations, really, back in the 1930s, in the end of the 30s, with the Rockefeller Foundation money, decided to map out the future American empire at the end of the coming war.
02:29:06.000This was before the German panzers rolled into Poland, keep in mind.
02:29:11.000And they were already planning how America would run the world after the war.
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02:33:08.000I've got to get him up for like two, three hours at a time.
02:33:10.000I'm really impressed with this guy's research.
02:33:13.000I've read quite a few of his articles in the past, and just for some reason never got him on.
02:33:17.000He writes for Global Research, obviously, and Michelle Chosodosky and that great crew over there.
02:33:23.000Maybe I'll twist his arm a little bit into the next hour so we can go through all these subjects.
02:33:27.000I mean, he's an expert on how they radicalized the Muslims, used them to encircle Russia on the Brzezinski model.
02:33:34.000And going into the future, they've always had this plan.
02:33:38.000They needed to use Al-Qaeda as a pretext to get into the Middle East, get into Central Asia, and then revert back to their Cold War.
02:33:44.000Now, to be clear, I'm not defending Vladimir Putin.
02:33:47.000I'm not defending any of these people.
02:33:48.000They have their own strategy, their own corruption, their own...
02:33:51.000But they're not the global dominant system.
02:33:54.000They're not the ones setting up free speech zones and devaluing the dollar and building FEMA camps here in the United States.
02:34:00.000And they're not the ones that snuck attack Russia-controlled areas or demilitarized peacekeeping zone.
02:34:08.000So that's why we have our guest on with us, and we'll plug your website and everything else before you leave us again, so listeners, be sure and be patient and wait for that.
02:34:20.000Now, Mr. Engdahl, please continue breaking down what you were covering with this policy of encirclement.
02:34:38.000Why this policy of starting a war with Russia continue?
02:34:43.000Very simply, Alex, if you go back to what I said at the beginning of the program with Alfred Mackinder and Russia is the heartland.
02:34:51.000Brzezinski said it in his 1997 Foreign Affairs article in his book The Grand Chess Game.
02:34:58.000Explicitly, American policy is that we can allow no nation or group of nations to emerge as a potential competitor.
02:35:06.000Now, that's a pretty arrogant foreign policy for a nation that preaches democracy, in my view.
02:35:11.000But this is raw power politics, and their view is, and has always been, I maintain, since the end of the Cold War, for Washington, for the Pentagon elite, and the military-industrial complex, The Cold War never ended, not for a heartbeat.
02:35:28.000They have quietly remodernized, revised, and upgraded their entire nuclear submarine fleet, their missile delivery systems, everything else.
02:35:39.000But the key to the whole thing, the key to the whole shebang, and bringing Russia to its knees, listeners should realize the significance of Russia.
02:35:49.000They went through hell under the Yeltsin era.
02:35:52.000Washington, the Bush administration...
02:35:55.000That was the British-U.S.-backed Anglo-American oligarchs.
02:36:00.000Putin's the big enemy because he threw them out.
02:36:03.000Yeah. Well, what you had was a dollarization of Russia under Yeltsin.
02:36:08.000Essentially, the U.S. State Department kept Yeltsin filled with vodkas, enough to get what they wanted.
02:36:15.000And they allowed these oligarchs to plunder the country and become dollar billionaires.
02:36:20.000but they had to be dollar billionaires, not Deutschmark billionaires or French franc billionaires, and therefore dependent on dollar-related interests in London and in New York.
02:36:34.000And, of course, these oligarchs, if you have the billion-dollar carrot wave in front of your nose, there are very few people that I know would say, oh, no, I'm not interested.
02:36:45.000So they sold out their country and plundered the thing, And Yeltsin told the oligarchs, he sat them down and said, look, you backed my election bid to become president, and I'll make an agreement with you.
02:37:08.000If you stay out of internal Russian politics and repatriate a share of your ill-gotten gains from plundering Russia, I'll leave you basically alone.
02:37:41.000And what happened is, in 2004, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, one of the oligarchs who owned something called YukoSoil, he got a little bit greedy, and he was, at that time, labeled the richest man in Russia. He made a deal to buy Sibneft, another major Russian oil company, and entered into negotiations with Father Bush.
02:38:07.000He brought Father Bush, then with the Carlisle Group, over to Moscow to negotiate selling 40%, it was said in the Russian press, 40% share of YukoSoil.
02:38:19.000to either Chevron, Condoleezza Rice, Rice's old company, or to ExxonMobil.
02:39:30.000They're about to hand over 40% directly to the Anglo-American oil companies.
02:39:36.000Right. And that would give the U.S. a major, major foothold because British Petroleum had already cut a deal with TNK, another Russian oil company.
02:39:47.000A major foothold in privatizing and taking over the crown jewels of the Russian economy, oil and gas.
02:39:54.000Well, Khodorkovsky did something else.
02:39:56.000He crossed the Rubicon with Putin, because he started using his money to bribe members of the Duma, the parliament in Russia, before the elections, and was on his way to change the law regarding the ownership rights of subsurface minerals, meaning oil and gas, so that private companies could build oil and gas pipelines, and he was working with Dick Cheney and people in Washington to do all this.
02:40:22.000And he was a consultant at Carlyle Group.
02:40:27.000Mikhail Khodorkovsky, this Russian oligarch, was a consultant to this most powerful private equity group in Washington called the Carlisle Group, where George Bush Sr. was an advisor, as well as James Baker and numerous other scallywags that have done their deeds over the years.
02:40:50.000Well, Khodorkovsky was out to make himself president with his money and essentially turned Russia over to his friends, his pals in Washington and New York and London.
02:41:02.000And suddenly he got off his plane in one of his oil projects in Siberia and was met by FSB, the Russian state security, and he's been in prison ever since.
02:41:13.000That's how they deal with things in Russia.
02:41:16.000You may say this isn't quite the niceties of law, this, that, and the other thing.
02:41:19.000To my mind, I don't know that I would do it much differently if I were in Putin's shoes.
02:41:24.000He was about to sell out the country, illegally buy up the Duma and make himself president, and give the whole thing, probably bring Russia into NATO, and poof, there would be it.
02:42:08.000Oh, I have to say, I mean, he's tired of Russian men dying at age 55. They're actually trying to get a breeding program going because the country's dying, to get the young people to have children.
02:42:17.000I mean, this is the opposite of a eugenics agenda.
02:42:20.000We see from the Russian government the opposite of the Anglo-American eugenics model that we live under.
02:42:26.000Well, the eugenics model is what I write about in the Seeds of Destruction, the real project with the genetically modified seeds.
02:42:33.000to my mind, is a Rockefeller Foundation project for precisely that.