Dollar devalued and speculation in commodities as the global currency is dying to make way for the New World Order. Oil continues to rise despite Saudi output increase pledge, the Supreme Court is set to announce a ruling on the Second Amendment, and gold and silver continue to rise in price.
00:00:26.000If you read the actual OPEC report, it is dollar devaluation and speculation in commodities because the global currency is dying to make way for the New World Order.
00:01:34.000I watched yesterday the Saudi oil emergency meeting and they kept saying it's currency, it's currency.
00:01:41.000But you'll never get on our news because they can't tell the people the truth because this is being done by design and the public would get mad if they found out their criminal government did this, Ted.
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00:07:47.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:07:59.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:03.000We're going to be talking to an individual who for more than 50 years It's coming up on 50 Plus.
00:08:12.000We've been fighting the New World Order.
00:08:14.000We've been having icons on the show, like G. Edward Griffin and many others, but I really can't think of anybody when it comes to really delving deeply into the New World Order and exposing so many dark secrets that we now just take as commonplace knowledge.
00:08:29.000So much of it was pioneered and rediscovered because it was all there in the ancient documents and text by Jordan Maxwell.
00:08:36.000So we'll be talking to him in just one moment.
00:08:38.000Before we go to Jordan, uh, you can pre-order my new film, 9-11 Chronicles, Truth Rising, Part 1, Truth Rising.
00:08:47.000And the way the world's going, who knows, there'll be a part 2.
00:08:50.000Uh, but it's got Willie Nelson in it, it's got Governor Jesse Ventura, it's got video interview with George Carlin, who died last night, of course, in Southern California, of heart failure, uh, talking about how the government wouldn't have an investigation in 9-11, they wouldn't investigate something they did.
00:09:10.000Martin Sheen, it's got the head of democracy now saying 9-11 should be investigated, Building 7 should be investigated.
00:09:19.000Michael Moore is saying it could be an inside job and that firefighters have told him there were bombs in the buildings.
00:09:26.000We've got to expand the description that's up on the InfoWars.com shopping cart, because it mainly gets into how we confront Schwarzenegger, and how we confront Lynne Cheney, and how just all these people get confronted, hundreds of people.
00:09:38.000Barack Obama, I mean, the list goes on and on.
00:09:43.000Both presidential candidates, Barack Obama and, of course, John McCain.
00:09:48.000With We Are Change and 9-11 Truth and everybody.
00:09:51.000The video of, of course, We Are Change L.A.
00:09:56.000basically taking over Bill Maher's show.
00:10:01.000So, it's a story of people standing up, taking action, having a great effect, confronting Bill Clinton, Hillary, Bill Clinton blowing up, admitting Bohemian Grove, admitting Bilderberg, meltdowns, the media saying kill us, arrest us, but Woven through this is the firefighters, police and military and EMTs dying of the dust.
00:10:22.000The government documents where they knew it was going to kill them and decided not to give them health care.
00:10:40.000So, the official release date is July 4th.
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00:11:09.000The DVD is being mass replicated right now.
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00:11:33.000I'm really excited about having Jordan Maxwell on the show.
00:11:37.000I kind of woke up to the New World Order on my own, or kind of on the John Birch Society route.
00:11:44.000I wasn't part of the John Birch Society, but read stuff like Nondare Call a Conspiracy, The Private Federal Reserve, and then I learned about Ron Paul 15 years ago and got a radio show and was kind of a mainline conservative Republican who was anti-New World Order.
00:11:58.000Then I found out that that party was controlled.
00:12:00.000I mean, even as late as nineteen Ninety-eight.
00:12:42.000Doesn't matter, we're all Johnny-come-latelys.
00:12:45.000You know, in this short life we have, the point is we can all move forward, take action.
00:12:50.000And then I remember Chris Athanas, in about 98, 99, putting Jordan Maxwell videos on.
00:12:56.000Local access and I remember watching those and looking into it and I already knew a lot of Egyptian history and other history and so I knew it was accurate because I'd already independently learned it but never put it into thought of what was happening today.
00:13:08.000So he really helped wake me up to a larger world and larger view and Jordan Maxwell continues as a preeminent researcher An independent scholar in the field of occult religious philosophy.
00:13:19.000His interest in these subjects began far back as 59.
00:13:22.000He served for three and a half years as the regional editor of Truth Seeker Magazine, America's oldest free thought journal since 1873.
00:13:30.000His work exploring the hidden foundations of Western religions and secret societies creates enthusiastic responses from audiences around the world.
00:13:38.000He has conducted dozens of intense seminars, hosted his own radio talk show, guested on more than 600 radio shows, and written, produced, and appeared in numerous television shows and documentaries, including the two-hour special for CBS TV Network, as well as the internationally acclaimed five-part Ancient Mysteries series, all devoted to understanding ancient religions and their pervasive influence on world affairs today.
00:13:58.000His works on the subject of secret societies, both ancient and modern, and their symbols has fascinated audiences around the world for decades, considering the rapidly moving events of today and the very real part these hidden religious agendas play in our modern, war-torn world.
00:14:15.000He feels that controversial subjects are not only interesting to explore, but too important to ignore.
00:14:20.000His extraordinary presentations include documents and photographs seldom seen elsewhere.
00:14:24.000Now, we can argue about our interpretation of what Jordan says, but I agree with the info he brings out.
00:14:30.000I may even disagree with some of his interpretations on certain things.
00:14:35.000But regardless, we should all have debates about these subjects.
00:14:39.000He gets into astrotheology, sexual symbolism and world religions, foundations of modern day religion, secret societies and toxic religion, world mysteries, ancient modern, ancient symbols and occult emblems, ancient sciences and technologies, hidden Bible teachings and mysteries, the sun and the history of politics and religion, the story hidden Bible teachings and mysteries, the sun and the history of politics and religion, the story your church doesn't want you to know, secret societies And we may even hold him over a little bit into overdrive today, but I wanted to properly introduce him.
00:15:53.000And yeah, it's true that I was interested in these subjects as far back as when I was a teenager, and even earlier.
00:16:03.000When I was a kid, I used to ask my parents and ask the adults around me questions and Uh, they just will look at me with glassy eyes and they have no idea in the world what I was talking about.
00:16:15.000And consequently, I, I just never understood why people weren't interested in the things that I was, you know?
00:16:24.000And so at 18 years old, I moved to California and, uh, by myself ended up in Los Angeles with $9 in my pocket.
00:16:47.000Somehow or another, I lived through all of it, but I was fascinated with how much people don't know, and how much people don't care to know.
00:16:55.000And I hear people today say, why doesn't the government tell us the truth, and why doesn't these educational institutes really tell us the truth?
00:17:05.000I think it's because they, the Illuminati, know that we, generally speaking, don't want the truth.
00:17:15.000Now, I've had Jordan Alitas come up to me, I mean, high-level members of government and others, and say, Alex, and they always say, this is off-record, right?
00:17:23.000And I'm a journalist, so it has to be off-record.
00:17:26.000And they say, look, the slaves don't want to know.
00:17:56.000And he said, you can't handle the truth.
00:17:59.000How important is it to tell people the real truth?
00:18:03.000Because what you're doing, and I've learned this the hard way, what you're doing is you're putting your life on the line.
00:18:10.000For people who will be entertained for a while hearing you, but they will go on with their regular lives as they always have, watching basketball and doing what they normally do, and life will go on.
00:18:24.000Of course, you had the big mouth and was telling people something that they weren't supposed to know, so you end up in trouble, maybe even end up dead or in prison.
00:18:36.000The Internal Revenue finds a bad comma on your tax records and now you can go to prison and that way they'll shut you up.
00:18:45.000And all because you were trying to help your fellow man who, while you're sitting in prison, they're out at the kids' baseball game because they were just entertained by you.
00:18:53.000Jordan, I think what you're saying is people don't need to take this for granted.
00:18:57.000They need to appreciate your work, my work, so many others, because it's dangerous and it's valuable.
00:19:14.000But I want to do this interview a little bit different than other interviews, because you don't like talking about yourself.
00:19:18.000I want to make you talk about your history, your awakening, because I found talking about people's awakenings tends to wake others up.
00:19:24.000Your journey, and then I want to get into the basics of the New World Order, their greatest secrets, kind of Jordan Maxwell's greatest hits.
00:19:35.000I want to understand your life, your awakening, and then where you see the New World Order going, and we'll take calls.
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00:25:28.000And I've done what I have done with nothing for so many years because I have always appreciated the people who made themselves available for me by doing tapes and records and lectures and teachers who I could go to to learn.
00:25:47.000the things that my heart was burning to know.
00:25:50.000And I would attend all the lectures I could, read everything I could get my hands on, because I wanted to know, and I really appreciated those people many years ago that were there out on the front lines like you are today, making the information available so that I could learn.
00:26:10.000And so that's what I wanted to do with my life at 19 years old, is to gather up as much information as possible and make it available to all that wanted to hear.
00:26:22.000And so I was very idealistic about that.
00:27:00.000And so I later on discovered that no, most of the time people do not want to know the truth.
00:27:09.000They will look at something, see that it's wrong, and then prefer to, as Churchill said, every now and then you'll stumble on the truth, but then you'll pick yourself up, brush yourself off, and go on, act like you never saw it, and just go on and live your life, and go to the ballgame, and have a good time.
00:27:27.000And one day, what comes around, goes around.
00:27:31.000One day, what you should have looked at, you should have been concerned about, Well, when it comes to you, finally, and you finally have to see what you, you know, what you could have seen years ago, but you didn't want to.
00:27:46.000Well, that's what I wanted to do, is to make this kind of information that I was interested in available to everyone.
00:27:56.000As far back as 19... I think they were founded in 1959 in Belmont, Massachusetts, where I used to Send research articles to Belmont back in 1961, 62, and 63 to the Bird Society as they're just getting going.
00:28:14.000I was doing a lot of research on my own on fascism, Nazism, communism, all of the different movements of the bankers, etc.
00:28:24.000So I was just sending in articles and sometimes I'd see some of my work being incorporated into their literature.
00:28:32.000And then I began to connect with all kinds of researchers and writers, and the more I learned, the more I realized how much I don't know.
00:28:43.000And I realized, too, that most people don't want to know, and that's what really frightened me, because now we're faced with something that is just absolutely beyond most people's ability to even grasp.
00:29:00.000And I have no words for it because I know that this country and this republic cannot be saved as long as there's a flaw in the thinking of the people.
00:29:14.000Look at your decisions in life are only as good as your information.
00:29:19.000And if you are not willing to look at all of the truth, then you don't have it yet.
00:29:25.000And as long as you don't have it all, any attorney will tell you before going into court.
00:29:30.000If you don't have everything going for you, then just don't go.
00:29:34.000Don't even try, because you're not gonna win, because you don't know the facts yet.
00:29:53.000The forces of globalism are destroying national sovereignty worldwide.
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00:33:11.000We're going to talk more about his awakening, his process of awakening, that journey, and then we're going to get into Basically, the biggest secrets he discovered, the bottom line on how it works, and what the Globalist New World Order, Occult Kingdom, Occult Theocracy's master plan is, with Jordan Maxwell.
00:33:38.000A lot of books, very old books that he owns the copyright to, that really break down how they run and control things are there available at jordanmaxwell.com.
00:33:49.000Before we end the show, we'll also get out a number where you can call and get some of those books and videos.
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00:34:01.000You know, I took off last week and went with my family to the Texas beach to spend a few days with them.
00:34:08.000And while I was out on the beach, I wrote notes.
00:34:11.000About 20 pages of notes of what I thought was most important in life.
00:34:17.000And one of the things I wrote in here is that I was really thinking about what makes me up, who I am.
00:34:23.000And I thought about being a young man and being ego-driven and wanting to be tough and good-looking and wanting to get in fights with bullies and, you know, kind of those base type things you do when you're young, but that's normal.
00:35:07.000I'm totally separate from my, quote, mind.
00:35:10.000I can pull back, look at myself, warts and all.
00:35:14.000I can analyze what makes humans tick, how we operate, the basic engineering, the basic genetics, what our true values are, what we're truly meant to do.
00:35:24.000And at the final equation, laying down your life for your neighbor means that you save yourself.
00:35:32.000Because when you have that attitude of laying down your life for your neighbor, when you do have courage, when you do care about others, when you're not greedy and filled with hate, when you're not just self-centered, you truly are conscious and can now use your brain, and you understand that in a society where we care about each other, and that means sometimes fighting against evil.
00:35:49.000That doesn't mean just laying back and being a wimp.
00:35:52.000That you have a better society, a dynamic system.
00:35:55.000No, but we're reaching towards something better.
00:36:00.000And being there, you know, at the beach, laying in the sand, watching my children play and build sandcastles, and seeing God's beautiful creation, you know, the firmament.
00:36:10.000You know, just looking at how wonderful this world is and how Madison Avenue has trained us to feel inadequate, to be unhappy, to not see how great things are, but to not also be able to see all the evil that's in the world at the same time.
00:36:22.000People are basically blind to the beauty and blind to the ugliness.
00:36:26.000They've been stunted and kind of shrunken down.
00:36:28.000They're looking at the world through a Through a straw.
00:36:33.000They're seeing such a limited perspective.
00:36:35.000And I have a desire to see them have pleasure.
00:36:58.000And it's painful to realize that a lot of them don't want to do that, and they want to be caught in snares, and they want to be killed, and they want to have fluoride put in their water, and they want to be injected with cancer, and they want to give their kids mercury shots, and they don't want to know the truth.
00:37:13.000And I wanted to ask Jordan this question, or make this statement and get his take on it.
00:37:18.000And I wrote here in a little book that That I realize that the instinct to want to build something better for the tribe is a human instinct, and to realize that the human community is bigger than just yourself, and that I want to pass better things on to people, and that all the good things we have is because other good people before us pass them on to us.
00:37:43.000And there's always been this struggle of good and evil within our own species.
00:37:47.000It's being directed and controlled from above, and you can debate what that intelligence is.
00:37:52.000And Jordan gets into that, but certainly, for those that have studied, it's there, and the elite know it's there, and communicate with it.
00:38:01.000With both sides of it or whatever it is.
00:38:27.000I do feel it, but is it a facsimile in my mind or is it real?
00:38:31.000The bouncing back from the future, the information I've already put out, I can feel the good it's created and I can feel it tangibly coming back at me from the future and I know that I stand on the shoulders of those in the past and I can feel myself with my ancestors and others looking back into the past and into the future.
00:38:52.000And if you really want to get down to what makes Alex Jones tick, at the end of the day, when Jordan was just talking, I was going to share this later in the week, it's that I want to make things better for those in the future.
00:39:05.000I live on through their pleasure and their pain and their exaltation and the births and the deaths and the lives that were all part of a larger species, like a cell in a larger organism and the new world order knows that and tries to block us off from ever becoming truly human and communing with our own species in the universe jordan i didn't mean to spend five minutes because i want to hear everything you have to say but i i wanted to say that to you because when you talked about wanting to know wanting to warn others having this drive this instinct
00:39:35.000and i absolutely am a kindred spirit with you on that point is that i have this desire to warn people and to know and to learn more myself well alex i'm so happy that you said those said those things because that's exactly what i was going to say I'm older and more tired than you are, so you said it so much better than I would have said it.
00:40:00.000Precisely what you said is exactly what I feel.
00:40:04.000When I was younger I was filled with the zeal for knowledge and wisdom and understanding and questioning everything and talking to all the adults that were out there writing and speaking publicly.
00:40:18.000I loved knowledge and I loved the idea of helping my fellow man.
00:40:33.000And the older I grew, the more I loved talking to audiences and helping them to understand.
00:40:39.000Because, you know, like the Apostle Paul says, do you not teach yourself when helping others?
00:40:45.000So I was learning and I was trying to transmit all the things I was learning to other people.
00:40:51.000Well, when I took my work publicly back in 1988, I decided to go public and instead of the little Mickey Mouse venues that I had been speaking at, the little Mom and Pop bookstores.
00:41:08.000I had been speaking at little venues, small little venues around Los Angeles as far back as 1961 and 62.
00:41:18.000I was giving lectures in libraries and little small groups.
00:41:23.000Uh, ladies home groups and all these little, uh, venues on secret societies, Bible codes, Knights Templars, uh, Nazi fascism, all of the different secret societies that were operating and how they were connected behind the scenes in European bloodlines.
00:41:42.000All of that back in the 60s, early 60s, but it wasn't until I was introduced to the work of Myron Fagan, Anthony Hilda put out the records set on Illuminati, that was in late 66.
00:41:59.000Well, I got a copy of it almost right after they came out.
00:42:22.000When you get so close to a problem and you understand the different sectors of it, you can be called a master of understanding the New World Order.
00:42:29.000As Jordan said, you realize how much you don't know.
00:42:33.000And so I would imagine you discovered thousands of things that Myron Fagan didn't know, but that was the last piece, or the master key, the Rosetta Stone, that the tumblers flipped, and then you went, because I know your research, to a whole new level past him, but we have to understand that it was that step that brought you to the next level, and then you bring others, and then you learn more from new people, and then we just
00:43:00.000That's exactly right and so I was then caught on the track of Illuminati as a philosophical concept.
00:43:11.000And so I was living in UCLA libraries, USC, Berkeley, I was all over the state and going to, I personally went to all of those because we didn't have the computers and the technology we have today.
00:43:26.000So I personally spent years at UCLA's research library, general research.
00:43:33.000Uh, USC, I used to spend days and weeks and months at USC and the stacks late at night photocopying documents from old books.
00:43:45.000And so, the more I learned, the more I knew how much I didn't know.
00:43:49.000And I was fascinated with every day I was learning things, and it was as if the Spirit was bringing me people and bringing things to me, because it was as if the Spirit in the universe knew that I wanted to know, and that I was eager to learn, and so I was meeting all kinds of interesting people.
00:44:14.000And then, like I said, about 1988, I had a nervous breakdown because I lost my wife, I lost my family, I lost everything.
00:44:24.000But those things happen in life, but I wasn't ready for it, and too much of it came too quickly, and it just overwhelmed me, and I just broke down.
00:44:34.000But when I came out... Did you lose your wife because of the research?
00:45:04.000She doesn't, she doesn't want, she used to tell me all the time, why don't you just get a job and be like everybody else and just go along to get along?
00:45:12.000And I said, my God did not bring me into this world to go along to get along.
00:45:17.000My God brought me here to be who I am.
00:45:22.000I have a high respect for the concept of the divine force in the universe that men call God.
00:45:29.000I believe that certain people are brought here purposely to do work.
00:45:35.000And so I have a very high regard for spiritual things.
00:45:41.000But not for the whorehouse churches that are Illuminati-controlled.
00:45:44.000Yeah, not for the corporations, silly bull that we call the religions today, jumping around on stages with their diamond rings and their effeminate haircuts and jumping around, falling down.
00:46:05.000If you were to go to a particular school for 40 years and study one subject for 40 years and one day come out of that 40 years of study and can't even read or form a sentence correctly and cannot hold an intelligent conversation with your fellow man, What kind of a school is that?
00:46:29.000That you've spent all your life in and can't even read?
00:46:32.000Well, the same thing is true with so many Christians who have been Christians all their life.
00:46:38.000And spent all their life pursuing a church teachings and have no idea in the world what certain words mean, the etymology of words and terms and symbols, corporate logos, flags, poetry, where concepts have come from.
00:47:03.000Well, I mean, that's the issue and They have Benny Hinn and all those guys and it's turned out they get government financing to start them off to make it look stupid, to actually turn spiritual people off.
00:47:16.000And I've noticed, I want to get your take on this, that the Illuminati, the Globalists are all Whether it's Ted Turner, Maury Strong, Prince Philip, David Rockefeller, they're all deeply occultic, deeply into this Illuminati religion of killing their fellow humans for the greater good of Gaia, but then they finance all the atheist groups to tell people there's nothing.
00:47:41.000So they really want to turn people off from a true spiritual experience, don't they?
00:48:49.000Uh, one of the, uh, gods that has been used to represent Satan is out there in TBN's courtyard.
00:48:56.000The very symbol that the Christianity has used for the devil is sitting in TBN's courtyard.
00:49:03.000But, consequently, nobody reads, nobody questions... They also have copies of the Babylonian altar in some of their TV shows with plants sitting on it, right in front of everybody, the one that was at Ishtar's Gate.
00:49:44.000Everywhere you go, you see sexual symbols, occult stuff, demonic symbols... And Crouch admittedly has all his homosexual mistresses, but then he speaks out against gay people on his show, and then publicly has all his male mistresses.
00:49:58.000And look it, I used to be, my friend died, but A very bright guy who was just an interesting man, lived down in Balboa Island.
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00:50:15.000He was very wealthy, but just to have something to do, he worked at a liquor store on the island, Balboa Island.
00:50:22.000And he used to tell me, I'd go down and sit on the wharf and talk with him about theology and religion.
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00:51:22.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:54:12.000here said a joker to the thief there's too much confusion i can't get any relief i can't get no relief jimmy hendrix had tapped into what was really going on
00:54:28.000i love the part of this song that says there are many here among us who think that life is but a joke nobody They are... The mind is an incredible thing.
00:54:47.000If they willfully want to be stupid and want to be in denial, their mind will engineer itself to build into that reality.
00:55:07.000I can have the Chicago Tribune admitting Don Cora Halliburton kidnapped over a million women and children, put them in slave camps, sell them to people to make snuff films.
00:55:47.000If somebody's attacking me, I want to stop it.
00:55:50.000But see, these cowards are so cowardly, they could have a lion ripping their guts out and they'd probably deny it and go into a blackout and say, a lion isn't tearing my guts out.
00:56:00.000Boy, I can't comment on it, because you said exactly what I'm thinking.
00:56:03.000That's precisely the point, that the public has left their sanity.
00:56:05.000cutting his hand off and he's sitting there humming happily in his mind and they say, oh, he's left us, I'm afraid.
00:56:52.000I didn't see the Lees doing a bunch of partying, but with Tilton and some others, I mean, I saw incredible stuff that I won't even say on air in our neighborhood.
00:57:05.000I mean, every time you turn on television, the place is just crowded with people and they're just enjoying it.
00:57:12.000And what, it just blows my mind on this is that you see thousands and thousands of people, you know, coming to these churches to listen and they're learning nothing.
00:57:48.000People who cannot read, they don't think, they don't question anything.
00:57:52.000It's just, and that's why the entire human race is going under, because the human family have lost their ability to even think.
00:58:03.000Now, Jordan, we gotta start the next hour, and it's only a 60-second break, 70-second with the tag, so stay there.
00:58:10.000I really wanna get into whatever it is you wanna cover, whatever areas you wanna cover when we get back.
00:58:15.000I wanna bring up a few controversies, a few issues, uh, as well, uh, with you, and you've agreed, he's agreed to stay 20-30 minutes in the next hour, uh, after that, so we've got him another hour and 20 minutes at least.
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00:58:58.000Whitman, EPA director on the 18th, made a statement.
01:00:07.000Jordan, J-O-R-D-A-N, Maxwell, M-A-X-W-E-L.com. Links up on Infowars.com. - - Continue the rest of the hour with us, and then for internet listeners and TV viewers at PrisonPlanet.TV, we'll continue about 20, maybe 30 minutes uninterrupted in the overdrive time to take phone calls.
01:00:29.000We'll do that off my phone system in my studio.
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01:00:41.000This is another short break and a long one's coming up, Jordan, but I'm going to go ahead and skip this break to note the network so we can continue to 20 after.
01:00:50.000You know, I never get into infighting.
01:00:52.000I never really talk about groups fighting with each other.
01:00:55.000People tried to even get us to, you know, pick fights with each other.
01:00:58.000They tried to get other people to do it.
01:01:00.000I've noticed you never get involved in all that.
01:01:03.000Uh, Jordan, but you have pioneered so much of the research that is now the mainstay of a lot of people out there.
01:01:11.000And then I get people emailing me saying, what's going on with Jordan Maxwell and this researcher?
01:01:16.000What's going on with Jordan Maxwell and that researcher?
01:01:18.000And then I go look it up and find out you've said nothing or done nothing.
01:01:22.000And that's how the Disinfo people, they're key at getting us to fight with each other.
01:01:27.000But just on record, I mean, tell me about some of the people you woke up to the New World Order, some of the people you educated, who then kind of took your work and then added on to it or did their own thing.
01:01:37.000I mean, go through some of the folks that we could say that you first met or that you woke up.
01:01:43.000Well, I mean, a classic example is back in 88 when I first started going public.
01:01:50.000I had a family that I was very close to out here and one of the boys, I mean one of the girls in the family, her name was Gloria.
01:02:18.000And so I suspected nothing, and she asked if she could photocopy all my documents and materials that I was working on, and I told her, of course.
01:02:25.000So I gave her boxes upon boxes over a two-day period.
01:02:29.000There was a photocopy shop in the building I was in, so she just spent all day, all afternoon and all evening photocopying all the research materials and documents and everything that I had.
01:02:42.000And later on, about a year later, I get a phone call from a mutual friend that knew both Gloria and myself, and said, Jordan, you know, there's a new book out with all of your work in it.
01:03:14.000I said, yeah, anyone could have done it, but it was me that did it.
01:03:18.000And consequently, you know, now it's a big book out there, Bloodline of the Illuminati, which Fred Springmeier got from Jordan Maxwell and never even said thank you.
01:03:27.000I mean, I gave John Rapoport a job, but he didn't have a job and sat for hours with John Rapoport and told him about my work in San Diego when I brought him in and hired him to work with me.
01:03:40.000Later on, he creates a book called The Secret Behind Secret Societies.
01:03:46.000And of course I work with Richard Hoagland and Zachariah Sitchin around the world five times, and I met the company of Truth Seekers.
01:03:55.000And Zachariah I have the highest respect for, a wonderful man.
01:03:58.000And Richard Hoagland, still a great friend of mine.
01:04:01.000But I've worked with so many people, and then when I hear uh... lecturers like uh... Jim Mars and Tex Mars, especially Jim Mars talking about Illuminati and secret societies.
01:04:12.000I think, hell, I was talking about that stuff back in sixty-two.
01:04:16.000I was talking about that forty-five years ago.
01:04:19.000But Jordan, I mean, that's also a sign of your success and Myron Fagan's and others that we do want other people to go out and put the information out.
01:04:31.000But I can certainly see in a case where You think somebody went and got your material and then put it into a book and gave you no credit?
01:04:38.000Uh, that is, uh, bad, but, I mean, at the same time, um... Well, hold on, we're gonna continue on through this break for folks on the internet talking, and we'll come back for everybody else in a sec.
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01:07:58.000Okay, to be clear, Jordan has always been a very magnanimous, very friendly, very helping, generous person.
01:08:08.000And I've talked to him on and off there.
01:08:11.000His main point is, and I'd like you to say it in your own words, is that it's not only that people take a lot of his work and don't give him credit, it's that he then gets emails and posts about, oh, this person came out with this and Jordan took it.
01:08:25.000Uh, and I think that's and then people start fights up between people and I was just talking to Jordan.
01:08:30.000He's saying he won't be doing very many interviews in the future.
01:08:33.000It was hard to get even get Jordan on.
01:08:54.000Specifically on your own words, you were telling me during the last little behind-the-scenes interview we were doing for the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers that yes, that people make these fights up.
01:09:07.000And I think it is people in the government and disinfo.
01:09:09.000to get researchers fighting where people will then say, Jordan Maxwell took this guy's research, and you're laughing because you were around 40 years before they even showed up.
01:09:19.000You were around before I was a zygote in my mother's womb.
01:09:23.000You were doing this 40 years before other people popped up on the scene.
01:09:30.000I've said that even to audiences, that some of the people that are out there talking today about this subject of secrets, societies, the Illuminati, Bible codes, Knights Templars, international banking, all of that stuff I was talking about back in the 60s, all of that stuff I was talking about back in the 60s, Like I said at the beginning, I used to send a lot of articles to the Birch Society way back in 60, 61.
01:09:59.000I was giving a lecture in downtown Hollywood in East Hollywood to a Christian group the day that John Kennedy was assassinated.
01:10:09.000I was giving a lecture in downtown Hollywood on secret societies and occult religions in 1963 when Kennedy was assassinated.
01:10:21.000I've been talking about this stuff for 48 years.
01:10:25.000I mean, let's briefly talk about some of the shoulders that you and others stand on so that we can stand on yours in this fight against tyranny and lies and fraud and dehumanization and greed and control.
01:10:58.000And I've always said, and I'm famous for saying that, that I'm not the world's foremost authority on anything.
01:11:05.000I'm just an ordinary man interested in extraordinary knowledge.
01:11:10.000Well, I think the key here is though, you codified so much of it, and before you came along, you'd have to go read a hundred high-level Masonic books, you'd have to go to the libraries, look at the real meanings of gods.
01:11:21.000So what you did is, that knowledge was there, but that was kind of their internal knowledge, and so you did bring to the world so much of what's going on today.
01:11:32.000I've seen online A little, you know, people trying to create a controversy between you and David Icke.
01:11:37.000Tell me, I mean, just to set the record straight, because people try to stir up stuff between you guys, let's set the record straight.
01:11:44.000Well, I appreciate that, because I've been wanting to talk about this for a long time, because there is a lot, I get a lot of emails and phone calls about, well, you said this about David Icke, or David Icke said that.
01:11:56.000First of all, I don't have any problems with anything David Icke is talking about.
01:12:01.000As a matter of fact, I gave him a lot, and he's gotten a lot from me.
01:12:07.000But I did, in point of fact, myself, in 1992, I brought David Icke to America.
01:12:15.000And I was in San Diego at the time and a young lady named Alice Ferguson came to my office in San Diego with a man, a friend of hers, named David Griffith.
01:12:29.000And Alice Ferguson, David Griffith, came to my office.
01:12:32.000I was pretty much running a company down in San Diego.
01:12:36.000called Truth Seeker Company, and she asked me if I would help bring her friend to America, who was doing, who was very interested in all my work, and he was trying to do the same thing in England.
01:13:06.000and I'll get you because they didn't have a place to live.
01:13:08.000They were over here to promote David Ike, and they didn't have a place to live.
01:13:11.000They were staying with some friends in San Diego, so I got them both an apartment.
01:13:15.000I gave them both $3,000 apiece to buy furniture for their apartments.
01:13:20.000I gave them both a job for $2,500 a month, plus they both had the credit cards for the foundation, the corporation, and so I financed her, Alice Ferguson, and ultimately David Ike Alice Ferguson, and ultimately David Ike to come to America, to go to Australia, to go to Canada, and all of that cost money to fly all over the world and to set up lectures for David Ike.
01:13:49.000And eventually, Alice Ferguson talked with Bonnie Lang, the lady who was running the company, and a couple of other women in the office, and they decided that, why don't we just fire Jordan Maxwell, get rid of him, and bring David Icke in to take his place?
01:14:07.000I got fired by the same people that I tried to help and bring David Icke to America.
01:14:13.000I got fired so that David could take my job.
01:14:17.000But after they fired me, they found out that David was not interested in sitting in an office running a company like Jordan Maxwell.
01:14:24.000So then the company went downhill from there because I was gone.
01:14:27.000And they had already fired me, and David didn't want the job.
01:14:32.000And so they just cut their nose off to spite their face.
01:14:35.000And so the truth-seeker company is now defunct and is no longer around.
01:14:39.000Of course, at that time I was helping, because I had access to the corporation funds, I was helping Richard Hoagland, Zachariah Sitchin, as I said, John Rapoport had no job.
01:14:54.000I called John Rappaport, gave him a job, got him started again, and he went out and wrote a book on my work called Secret Behind the Secret Societies.
01:15:04.000So, you know, and, of course, I don't know if we were on the air at the time when we were talking about the Fritz Springmeier with the bloodlines of the Illuminati.
01:15:15.000All of that was taken from me back in 1988 by Fritz Springmeier's girlfriend, Gloria Mescarella.
01:15:22.000So all of these people that I have, you know, and, of course, I was giving lectures in the motion picture studios and all the different recording studios back in the 70s and 80s.
01:15:35.000I was going around to motion picture studios at night and...
01:15:40.000And, uh, just the working class people in the studios would give me a pass.
01:15:44.000Yeah, I know, uh, some say that they took the idea of the Matrix from you.
01:16:06.000But what I do know Is that there's that directly from my video with one of my first videos ever done was called the basic slide presentation and if you get my basic slide presentation that's the one that made me famous all over the world and and it was a two-hour video
01:16:27.000Out of that, at the very beginning of the basic slide presentation, and get that, and watch it, and then get the movie, Da Vinci Code.
01:16:37.000And it is exactly, word for word, exactly in the Da Vinci Code, at the beginning of the movie, they introduce Tom Hanks as the world's foremost researcher in occult societies and secret societies, and he comes up on the stage, This is in the movie "Da Vinci Code." And he comes up on the stage and he's got a screen and a slide projector.
01:17:03.000And on the screen, being projected on the screen, is the symbol on the back of the dollar bill with the pyramid.
01:17:10.000And he walks in front of the projection, so some of it is being projected on him.
01:17:16.000And he's now pointing to the pyramid, the all-seeing eye, et cetera, and talking about the Illuminati and secret societies on the dollar bill, et cetera.
01:17:25.000That came directly out of my Basics Live presentation, period.
01:17:39.000Of course, the whole idea of Da Vinci Code was a rip-off of Bajie Lee and Lincoln.
01:17:44.000The entire movie, Da Vinci Code, was an absolute rip-off of the British writers Bajie Lee and Lincoln and their book that appeared about 15 years before the movie called Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
01:17:58.000And so the producers of Da Vinci Code ripped off Major Lee and Lincoln's book uh... holy blood holy grail and made it into a movie and uh... and act like they would they came up with something new and there was a lawsuit in England because of that so I'm not the only one that's been ripped off and lied to and cheated and left for dead there's a lot of good people out there.
01:18:22.000You've made such a contribution to fighting the New World Order Jordan that I don't normally even air laundry on the show but it's important that That you'd be recognized for the work you've done, and some people appreciate the work you've done.
01:18:35.000Now I want to shift gears for the rest of this hour into the biggest secrets, the biggest issues.
01:18:41.000Big, broad, you know, basic info, and we can go back into more detail.
01:18:46.000Okay, then let me say, then, if you're up for that, just remember that when you ask for something, you know, make sure you're ready for it, because You know, make sure what you ask for you're ready for because it might be something that you weren't expecting.
01:19:21.000So we're not, this show, you can talk about anything you want.
01:19:25.000The only person that controls what's on this show is Alex Jones, and the guest he has on, and all my guests can talk about whatever they want.
01:19:33.000The callers can talk about whatever they want.
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01:23:53.000If you're an InfoWars.com, Internet Stream listener or PrisonPlanet.tv subscriber, Everybody else, we'll continue after the next break with Jordan Maxwell.
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01:24:10.000Okay, Jordan, should we start at the end with the globalist master plan, the New World Order, what they want to build on Earth?
01:24:18.000Sometimes that's the best way to start, or should we start at the beginning?
01:24:21.000Well, I'll tell you what, start at the beginning and let me say this.
01:24:25.000I don't really want to get into the political part of this because we don't have a whole lot of time left.
01:24:32.000And besides, everyone who needs to know already knows how bad off we are.
01:24:38.000I'd like to talk about some subjects that maybe we don't know.
01:24:41.000Okay, but I do want to get your take on what their final master plan is.
01:24:45.000I mean, I know what your view is, but also I want to get your latest take, your latest analysis on what their endgame is.
01:24:51.000But sure, go ahead and start at the beginning.
01:24:54.000Okay, well, then everybody should get a piece of paper and a pencil and write down a couple words I'm going to give you.
01:25:01.000Because I believe these are key words to open up a can of worms that you will not believe.
01:25:07.000It's going to open up a whole world of research to you that you've never known existed.
01:26:20.000It's a whole secret order that has been in operation for a thousand years.
01:26:26.000It is the whole story behind America, England, and those things which are going on on the earth today.
01:26:34.000And if you don't understand Hanseatic League and Teutonic Zionism, you're never going to figure out the name of the tune and how this thing is being played.
01:26:44.000And I've been looking at this for 48 years, and I'm telling you that unless and until you have the whole story, You're not going to get to the bottom of anything, because like I said in the beginning, the first hour, your decisions in life are only as good as your information, and the really extraordinary information has never been allowed to be given to the people.
01:27:07.000So I'm just getting you started into a truly arcane, occult research.
01:27:13.000Well, on the Teutonic Knights that really grew into the Templars and vice versa, after they knocked out the Templars, there was still the Teutonic Knights.
01:27:20.000I only know about the Teutonic Knights because I read That's right.
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01:33:22.000And when the retransmission continues, I'll get into Barry Jennings, Deputy Head of Emergency Management, New York, talking about explosions in the buildings, dead bodies, in Building 7 before either tower collapsed, destroying the 9-11 Commission Report.
01:33:35.000Huge video up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
01:33:40.000The Supreme Court is set to rule that there is no Second Amendment today.
01:34:05.000They've already said they're going to do it, and you're going to watch them do it, and that way it neutralizes people.
01:34:10.000It's all about deception, all about word games.
01:34:12.000They play so many They've trained whole cadres of people compartmentalized to carry out the lies, but they don't see the larger part of how they're destroying themselves.
01:34:21.000We'll be back with Jordan Maxwell in just one moment.
01:34:23.000Be sure to visit his website jordanmaxwell.com.
01:34:26.000And let's just go 30 more minutes into the next hour.
01:34:28.000He says he's feeling good and can do it.
01:34:30.000And we're going to be taking your phone calls coming up in the next hour, but not yet.
01:34:35.000We'll get that number out at the end of the main radio broadcast.
01:34:37.000It'll be internet only for the last 30 minutes with Jordan Maxwell.
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01:36:53.000He was talking about the Teutonic Zionist.
01:36:57.000And again, separately from Jordan Maxwell, because I've been a big reader.
01:37:02.000I can confirm what he's saying because I happen to read Heinz Hobel, Order of the Deathshead, Scheer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, two of Hitler's books, Mein Kampf and then the New World Order.
01:37:15.000I happen to know that they believe in Teutonic Knights.
01:37:20.000Mainstream history teaches you the Templars became the Teutonics, but Really, they were the tree from which the Templars rose, and when that tree was cut down and ran to Northern England or to Scotland, the real heart of it grew back up.
01:37:47.000That's why I said, put the two together.
01:37:50.000The Teutonic Zionism, which is Semitic Zionism, it's Teutonic Zionism, and Hanseatic League.
01:37:59.000And again, the word is H-A-N-S-E-A-T-I-C.
01:38:04.000Hanseatic League and Teutonic Zionism will begin to open up a can of worms that you're not going to believe.
01:38:11.000Well, tell us about the Hanseatic League.
01:38:13.000Well, as a league of German bankers and thinkers, philosophers, but especially bankers and commercial enterprises in Germany under the Second Reich, which was under Kaiser Wilhelm and even way before that, Uh, before the German nation came to be a nation.
01:38:34.000So it's a whole confederation of, of bankers, thinkers, philosophers who were basically put together.
01:38:41.000They created the modern education system.
01:38:52.000They merged with the British-German aristocracy.
01:38:55.000And again, I'm not absolving the modern, corrupt, murderous Zionists.
01:38:59.000The point is, I have found that they are actually their plaything, and that they are married in with the Rothschilds, and every time I knock down that final door, this is a Germanic death cult that believes they are the true Zionists.
01:39:17.000So let's move on, because... I mean, all I try to do, though, is report what I really find in history, I don't.
01:39:23.000look at who owns the big pharma companies look at who owns the military and then and then it's got to be a debate about the catholics or it's got to be a debate about the but then the catholic system uh you know is trying to set up the new rome and it's hooked in with the teutonics is it not oh of course it is of course it is but then but then i say it's only part of it i mean i'm saying zionists catholics all of it the protestants but see no they want to keep us compartmentalized divided and conquered don't they You're right.
01:39:51.000That's why I was saying earlier that when you go on my website, there are three books that are showing.
01:39:57.000I have other e-books, but once you hit one of the books that are showing, it will take you to the whole e-book section.
01:40:04.000But on the one in the middle, it's called Symbols, Sex, and the Stars, Which I was so taken by when I first found this book in an old bookstore.
01:40:13.000I was just absolutely mesmerized by how much information is in there so well easily to read and explain.
01:40:23.000About where things come from in the world theology, where it developed, what the words meant, the etymology of the words, and where the concepts and ideas have come from.
01:40:35.000It's called Symbols, Sects, and Stars.
01:40:40.000I gave it to my friend so he could publish it.
01:40:43.000And then the second one, which was so extraordinarily important, I asked and got the copyright to own it also.
01:40:53.000I not only loved the books, I wanted to own them so I could put them out all over the world.
01:40:58.000It's called Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy.
01:41:03.000And once you understand how Masonic Astronomy and is connected to the Stellar Theology of the ancient world, Then all of the words and terms you're hearing in religion and philosophy and astronomy all begin to make sense.
01:41:19.000And that's why the Olympics this year are going to be on 888 at 888 in the day.
01:41:24.000That's why NASA did the shoots on certain days at certain times, admittedly occultic.
01:41:31.000That's why Ronald Reagan only gave speeches in an exact second, on an exact day, with a certain color tie, looking a certain direction, and would walk out and hail his arms in an occultic fashion before he did it.
01:41:44.000They really believe this, and they believe that by extension all the power they have, they believe it's real, and they believe they're communing with entities, don't they?
01:41:52.000That's exactly right, and the mere fact, I mean, you know, by their fruits you shall know them, the mere fact that they are the power Tells you that there very well might be something in fact legitimate about it.
01:42:07.000That there very well might be an occult hidden dark force in the universe that we call the occult magical system that we put into movies like Matrix.
01:42:21.000But there is, in point of fact, a legitimate, de jure, real, magical system operating on the Earth.
01:42:30.000Now, let's be clear, for atheists out there, if you go research your atheistic founders, you will find they're funded by a cultic and theophics, you know, different societies, and that the world leaders who are telling you not to believe anything, they are obsessed with this, aren't they?
01:43:01.000You know how many people go to the Washington Monument and see the Washington Monument?
01:43:06.000And are so proud to stand there and have a picture taken with the Washington Monument, never realizing that the Washington Monument is a phallic symbol for the phallic worship in Egypt.
01:44:13.000So I want to take this opportunity to say, anyone who goes on my website, understand there is at least 48 years of knowledge and work that I have put into my website of stuff that you will never be privy to know even exists.
01:44:31.000So when you go to my website, don't just look at the homepage and a couple of pictures.
01:44:36.000Go all through it, and especially on the audio video page and the links page.
01:44:44.000I don't put links on my website to take up room.
01:44:48.000I put them on because they are very important to me.
01:44:51.000Now Jordan, I want to move quickly here.
01:44:54.000You also told me privately that you may not be doing radio much longer.
01:44:58.000Two Sundays from now, You're going to be joining us for the full two hours, and if you really are talking about hanging up your hat here, I want to get you up even sooner back on this show.
01:45:09.000I mean, you say you're ill, you don't feel well, you're losing the drive, but I hear that drive reigniting once we get you on air.
01:45:16.000Any ballpark on when you may hang it up?
01:45:19.000I get excited in my spirit when I'm in the company of someone like yourself, Alex, that appreciates
01:45:28.000uh... the work and appreciates the time and the effort and the and and all the that comes with it because i have become so despondent and so dejected over all the years of of uh... seeing things people are saying about me which are not true they're saying that i'm an enemy of so-and-so you shouldn't let them get to you they're mad but you're you're getting flat because you're over the target jordan and that people are jealous of you they try to stir up fights
01:45:56.000Just you need to know you've done a lot of great work, you're still doing great work, and if they know they're getting to you, they're only going to go ten times crazier.
01:46:03.000And look, I've got people threatening me and threatening my family, and I know it's happened to you, and you've got people banging on your doors, saying they're going to kill you and the cops won't help you.
01:46:12.000That's why we've got you here to try to get you support, but don't let them get you down.
01:46:17.000I mean, I know you're 70-something years old and got cancer, so it's easy for me, you know, 30-something years younger to sit here and say this, but that's why we got you.
01:46:25.000You got rare books, important material.
01:46:27.000Folks, go buy his stuff at JordanMaxwell.com.
01:46:30.000Jordan, I've known him for many years, interviewed him many times over the years, never heard him like this.
01:47:31.000Absolutely, and consequently, but the powers that be know that you're putting it out, and they're going to deal with you.
01:47:37.000You're going to have your family in threats against your life.
01:47:40.000And threats against your home, and you're fighting something on the front lines while other people are just viewing your work as entertainment.
01:47:49.000So many people will listen to me and watch videos, which I've never put any of my videos... That's right!
01:47:56.000One of the biggest comic book companies has put out a whole line of comic books called New World Order, and they are giving you credit, Jordan.
01:48:02.000Yeah, I know, that comic book company did, because I think they had to, lawfully they had to, because it was based on me.
01:48:10.000But, you know, if you go on my website to the To the e-books.
01:48:14.000Those free e-books are very, very important.
01:48:16.000That's why I put them on the home page.
01:48:18.000And, of course, I have another box called Endorsements and Emails.
01:48:22.000A lot of interesting stuff on there that people have sent me, and I just put it out in the public.
01:48:28.000So I'll let you see what other people have sent me.
01:48:31.000Then Downloadable Documents, the Photo Gallery, and, of course, just general research boxes.
01:48:37.000I've got tons of stuff on there, but what really bothers me Is that I would love to be able to do radio and talk to the world and tell the world what I really know Well, why don't we have you back up later in the week for like two hours to really... You can say whatever you want here, Jordan.
01:49:51.000Yeah, let's talk about their master plan if they win.
01:49:55.000Well, I think the human race, and this is going to be a painting with a very broad brush, but it's based on many years of looking at the subject from every conceivable angle.
01:50:07.000And I've traveled all around the world, from Egypt to Europe, to quite literally around the world, talking to people, lecturing on the subject, and I've learned so much from others and other areas of the world is very rewarding to travel and hear other foreign people what they think and see how things work in their country and I'm totally convinced that the human race is being mutated according to a scientific method
01:50:35.000we know that there have been experiments done as far back as the 1920s and 30s of trying to crossbreed animals with humans The Germans were doing that.
01:50:51.000You know, I know exactly what you're thinking when it comes to this economy.
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01:54:06.000The full power of my subconscious mind.
01:54:10.000Thousands of times more powerful than my limited cerebral cortex.
01:54:14.000In my bones, I know they're waging war against the species.
01:54:19.000And then lo and behold, I go to their own documents.
01:54:22.000They vitriolically say they're poisoning us, killing us, euthanizing us right now.
01:54:27.000With the nutrition we've been getting, we should be living to 130.
01:54:31.000They are waging war on us, and I, you know, I hadn't even gotten into Jordan Maxwell's own research on this, and I say, what's the master plan?
01:54:38.000And he says to dumb us down into a new suboid species, and you read the eugenicists, you read the government plans, they are now doing it, inserting us into a matrix, you're being sucked into your iPhones, sucked into your video games, you're already interfacing, you're already... I've got to have you up very soon, Jordan, to do a whole show on this, and how they admit they're doing it, And I've had elitists tell me, Alex, you warned them, and look, they don't even care.
01:55:17.000They're chemically attacking all of you.
01:55:20.000This is their own admissions, and Jordan, we're going to call you back in just a moment on your line because we're going to end the show, the main show.
01:55:28.000We're going to do 30 more minutes with you, but in closing, I want to thank you for coming on the main show, and I want to ask everybody to visit JordanMaxwell.com.
01:55:36.000Anything else in closing you want to say to the main audience?
01:55:38.000Yes, the material that's on my website is there for the moment.
01:55:44.000So you need to understand it may not be there tomorrow.
01:55:48.000So you better get whatever's on there because I'm always under attack, always.
01:55:53.000My website is being cut down, shut down.
01:55:56.000So I'm just saying, go on my website to jordanmaxwell.com and get whatever you can now because who knows what tomorrow is going to bring.
01:56:03.000Are you for people taking the stuff and creating mirrors of it?
01:56:49.000You have to go to those streams to get the rest, the final 30 minutes, commercial-free with Jordan Maxwell at InfoWars.com right now.
01:56:59.000Also, PrisonPlanet.tv, you can watch streaming live right now for the next 30 minutes, and then we'll also archive that this afternoon for everybody else.
01:57:06.000An amazing interview with Jordan Maxwell.
01:57:09.000People kept saying, get Jordan Maxwell on.
01:57:10.000I tried to get him on, he said he wasn't doing interviews anymore, and then he graciously came on.
01:57:14.000So here he is, he's on, and he'll be on more in the next few weeks with us.
01:57:20.000I do want to tell all of you that Truth Rising, the people taking action, waking up to 9-11, exposing that lie can expose the rest.
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01:59:03.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
01:59:10.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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02:02:23.000Aaron, finish up with your other points on eugenics.
02:02:25.000I was going to rapid-fire a Margaret Singer quote and then finally a Richard Dawkins quote.
02:02:30.000Margaret Singer, the most merciful thing a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.
02:02:35.000Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.
02:02:38.000Eugenics sterilization is an urgent need.
02:02:41.000We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock.
02:02:44.000Eugenics is the most adequate and thorough avenue to solution of racial, political, and social problems.
02:02:50.000And Richard Dawkins has this kind of open thought of, uh, what if eugenics came back?
02:02:56.000In the 1920s and 1930s, scientists from both the political left and right would not have found the idea of designer babies particularly dangerous.
02:03:04.000Though, of course, they would not have used that phrase.
02:03:06.000Today, I suspect that the idea is too dangerous for comfortable discussion, and my conjecture is that Adolf Hitler is responsible for the change.
02:03:14.000Nobody wants to be caught agreeing with that monster, even in a single particular.
02:03:19.000The specter of Hitler has led some scientists to stray from ought to is and deny that breeding for human qualities is even possible.
02:03:27.000But if you can breed cattle for milk, horses for speed, dogs for skill, why shouldn't you breed humans for mathematical, musical, or athletic ability?
02:03:35.000I wonder some 60 years after Hitler's death, Why we might at least venture to ask what the moral difference is between breeding for musical ability.
02:03:44.000And the problem is with breeding, you're talking about exterminating most of the puppies or kittens that are born.
02:03:48.000You're talking about the state having this incredible control.
02:03:51.000And in special breeds, you get more mental illness, more inherited diseases, and the elites that are bred, most of their children are born retarded or had serious mental illness problems.
02:04:02.000But do they give up this system of control?
02:04:04.000No, they've only intensified it down throughout the last hundred plus years.
02:04:09.000And now they're practicing their eugenics upon us through the vaccines, through the chemtrails, through the entire system.
02:04:15.000Aaron, I want to have you back up in a couple weeks again for a whole other discussion and other areas of eugenics because this is the governing system, the ideology of the New World Order.
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02:06:45.000We live in a world of vanishing privacy.
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02:08:33.000And he also campaigns for the legalization of marijuana, the decriminalization.
02:08:39.000You got 80 plus percent of drug users only use marijuana.
02:08:42.000They need to keep it that way, so that, uh, they need to keep it illegal so they can SWAT Team Raid more people and fill more prisons while the government has been caught hundreds of times shipping in heroin and cocaine and laundering the money.
02:08:54.000Did you know it's legal for foreign drug money to be invested in the New York Stock Exchange?
02:08:58.000And the former head, Richard Grasso, when he was head of the New York Stock Exchange, was in Reuters going to the FARC, communist guerrillas, and saying, invest your cocaine money with us.
02:09:06.000I'm going off on a rant here about the decriminalization of marijuana.
02:09:10.000They need to keep it illegal because, what is it, 86-87% of people only smoke marijuana that use illegal drugs.
02:09:49.000You're going to be with us for the next 50 minutes.
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02:09:55.000The last 10 months or so since you were on with us, a lot has happened.
02:10:00.000Top Italian former presidents, German defense ministers, Japanese diet members, the best actress.
02:10:08.000So many prominent people have gone public for 9-11 Truth.
02:10:11.000Give us your take on the evolution of it and why 9-11 Truth is so important.
02:10:15.000Why you took the step of speaking out, Mark.
02:10:17.000Yeah, I think it's great to see, you know, like you said, as time goes on, more and more people are coming forward as they gradually become aware of the facts.
02:10:28.000Obviously, you know, through online research and through the amount of books and magazines that have come out now, you know, enough authors have come forward and stated their opinion.
02:10:37.000And I think what's really important now is You know, obviously, people early on, shortly after the 9-11 attacks, were kind of pigeonholed as conspiracy theorists.
02:10:50.000But now, that label, it never did apply, but it's less applicable now than ever, simply because the people who are coming out in favor of 9-11 truth are too credible to ignore.
02:11:05.000You know, in the last few years, we've had the formation of things like Scholars for 9-11 Truth.
02:11:10.000Which includes architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth, pilots for 9-11 Truth.
02:11:17.000We have former people who worked in government, including the current administration, who are coming out and saying that they don't believe the official story.
02:11:27.000So it's just a case of, you know, as more people become exposed to it, as the media blackouts and mainstream media continues, mostly via the internet, people are becoming connected and becoming aware of these facts and voicing their opinion.
02:11:44.000You know, it's never too late for anybody who feels strongly about this issue to come forward and voice their opinion because I think As time goes on, people will be surprised to find out that if they are no longer worried about expressing their skepticism of the official story regarding 9-11, they will find out that there are a lot of people out there, you might refer to them as a silent majority, who also feel very much the same way.
02:12:14.000They are either too afraid or too reluctant to come forward and also express their doubts in the official story.
02:13:35.000It was a modern-day version of the Warren Commission, as far as its attempt to silence witnesses and suppress truth-tellers.
02:13:45.000And, you know, when things reached that point, and that commission was shown to be the impotent vehicle that it was, I just felt compelled to, in my own small way, say whatever I could as far as what I thought the truth was.
02:14:02.000Well, Mark, that isn't in your own small way.
02:14:05.000It's not just that you're a celebrity or a well-known sports figure.
02:14:10.000It's that people resonate with the courage of a Willie Nelson or a Mark Stepnowski or a former German defense minister or a former governor.
02:14:19.000They resonate And they know that person has a lot to lose.
02:14:32.000The Chicago Tribune Four months ago, reported as well as Associated Press, the NSA declassified that Israel did attack the U.S.' 's liberty to try to sink it, to blame it on Egypt to start World War III, as they've now tried, the U.S.
02:14:49.000It's now come out, Cy Hirsch at a big media event, and he did admit in New Yorker Magazine that Cheney, he just said a staged provocation, he said this is the provocation to have U.S.
02:15:00.000Navy SEALs dressed up like Iranians on blue PT boats attack US ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
02:15:07.000So, government-sponsored terror, the fact that Gulf of Tonkin was staged, that's all coming out now, and people say, well that was seven years ago, you know, 9-11, why are you so concerned?
02:15:17.000Well, because Black Ops is going to continue to stage terror attacks as a pretext for control if we don't step up and expose that they're behind it.
02:15:49.000To try and instigate an attack on them so we would be justified in responding.
02:15:54.000I remember also last year, the big Noborzinski appearing in the press practically coming right out and saying, you know, we had to worry about the current administration putting together a false flag terror op to stimulate war with Iran.
02:16:14.000This is a guy who is now Barack Obama's main foreign policy advisor.
02:16:19.000So again, we have these people coming out in mainstream media within the last year with these scenarios that have come and gone that have involved false flag terror.
02:16:31.000So I just think in this day and age, people are becoming a little bit too hit to what's going on They understand ahead of time.
02:16:40.000Similar to what happened in Spain when you had the false flag terror attack there with the train.
02:16:44.000The people within days came out in the hundreds of thousands and said, we know you did it.
02:16:48.000And it turned out it was the intelligence operation.
02:16:52.000Hopefully we are reaching that point now in North America.
02:16:55.000If you call it critical mass or whatever you want to.
02:16:59.000Hopefully through, you know, the work that you do and statements made by 9-11 truthers like myself and the many others around the world.
02:17:09.000You know, we have people, a politician in Japanese Parliament came out wanting to have another investigation.
02:17:17.000We're having a march in Canada to Ottawa to culminate on September 11th where they're going to present a petition at Parliament Hill for a new 9-11 investigation in Canada.
02:17:30.000So I think, you know, worldwide you are seeing people come around and, you know, waking up to the fact that this was a false flag operation, you know, to have a certain effect on the American public.
02:17:40.000The question now is, you know, are the people who live in America going to be smart enough to look into the right sources of information to kind of emancipate themselves from this media blackout that's going on?
02:17:57.000I think if people continue to turn off their TVs, give less credence to mainstream media, corporate media, and instead, you know, read online, read books, read magazines, anything out there that's going to give the true story of 9-11 truth, this is what's going to mobilize the population in America so that when another false flag terrorist attack occurs,
02:18:26.000Whatever it is, whether it's bioterror, whether it's a mini-nuke somewhere, people will see it for what it is and not be railroaded into a certain mindset like they were after 9-11.
02:18:39.000We're talking to Super Bowl champion two-time Mark Stepnowski, five-time pro bowler, and he's, again, going public, not because it's fun, but because it's his duty, and I would venture to say because he just said it, he knows that if we don't expose the tool of false flag, that mechanism, he knows that if we don't expose the tool of false flag, that mechanism, this military-industrial complex is going to keep doing Just like in England, how they hunt pheasants.
02:19:18.000They've been caught over and over and they're going to continue to do this if we don't expose it.
02:19:25.000And that's why the courage of now thousands of prominent people that have gone public for 9-11 truth and now all these architects and engineers and physicists is unstoppable.
02:19:36.000We're going to come back and talk about the fraudulent new NIST report with Mark Stipnoski and then we're going to take your phone calls.
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02:24:08.000I remember sitting around watching the Cowboys play.
02:24:12.000Rooting for Mark, and now I'm rooting for him in a much more important way, and that is his courage.
02:24:18.000Speaking out for 9-11 Truth, there's a ballot initiative in New York to get a new investigation going, or expose that, a grand jury.
02:24:24.000There's a lot of different initiatives.
02:24:26.000There's marches going on, events coming up in New York next week that I hope folks go to.
02:24:33.000Let's talk about that ballot initiative first, and then I want to get into the NIST report, Mark.
02:24:39.000Yeah, obviously, since we're coming up on the anniversary of 9-11, there's a lot of activities going around to highlight the fact that the official story is untrue.
02:24:53.000This is a way for, I mean, it's obvious that, like I said earlier, that we're not going to get a proper investigation through government channels.
02:25:02.000But this is a way for the people of New York City to create a new 9-11 commission and investigation of the events, which would have subpoena power.
02:25:25.000And now these petitions will be submitted to the New York City Clerk and New York City Council.
02:25:32.000And with a sufficient amount of signatures, this being above $30,000, they will be able to present this and then it can become an issue, a topic on the ballot.
02:25:46.000I believe it would be part of the 2009 ballot for mayor, the election of mayor in New York City, where citizens can vote for themselves.
02:25:57.000They can make their voices heard that they think it is necessary as citizens of that city, as voters of New York City, to demand a new investigation, one that actually has some teeth.
02:26:15.000We need lots of grand jury-type public investigations, both governmental and non-governmental, to draw this out publicly and continue to expose it.
02:26:24.000Everything is a step, to use a football analogy, for more yards to get a new set of downs towards the touchdown, bringing these criminals to justice.
02:26:33.000And even if we never bring them to justice by sending them to prison, By publicly convicting them in the court of public opinion, and by educating the public about false flag terrorism, it breaks that tool that the black ops continue to use.
02:27:03.000Well, just by signing that petition, just by signing your name on that piece of paper, you are, in effect, saying, look, I don't believe in what the government is telling me.
02:27:13.000I don't believe the lies that I'm being told in corporate media.
02:27:17.000You know, I demand a new investigation.
02:27:20.000This is one way for people to have their voice heard, people who otherwise Might feel powerless.
02:27:26.000There's a lot of people in New York City.
02:27:28.000If a lot of them mobilize, it might be surprising what could actually happen.
02:27:33.000But, you know, I urge listeners of your show who either live in New York City or have family or friends there to let them know about this.
02:27:42.000They can look it up on www.nyc911initiative.org and find out anything they would like to about this movement.
02:27:52.000But I think that Yeah, right now it's moving along very nicely, and should it succeed in any degree, it'll be a big step forward.
02:28:17.000Look how far we've come from myself, two months before the attack, saying I think they're going to attack the World Trade Center and blame it on their asset bin Laden.
02:28:25.000Because I saw them preparing the public, introducing bin Laden.
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02:32:44.000We're bringing up the NIST report and how they've had to change how physics works and so a lot of scientists and physicists and architects that weren't involved and didn't believe it was an inside job are now looking going, You're saying jet fuel made 2600 degree pockets of stuff five weeks later?
02:33:23.000Yeah, I mean, this coincides with the Bush administration's technique from day one.
02:33:31.000They have actively sought to discredit science and to really argue with scientific belief.
02:33:39.000You know, it doesn't matter whether it's the EPA, the FDA, whatever it is, you know, there's been an active warfare on the part of the Bush administration against science.
02:33:51.000And this is another clear-cut example of that.
02:33:55.000They know marijuana doesn't kill one person a year.
02:33:57.000It's a miracle drug with thousands of patented real things it does for cancer, glaucoma, but they're still SWAT teaming people every day where I live looking for marijuana.
02:34:09.000No matter how much Evidence you present, no matter how authoritative that evidence is, no matter who it comes from, as far as, you know, credible scientific or medical establishments, it will just be written off by propaganda.
02:34:24.000You know, it really isn't in full war.
02:34:26.000You can present any kind of factual evidence you want to support your theory, but again, you know, corporate media, the Republican or Democratic Party, they'll just write it off with propaganda.
02:34:39.000But that is starting... I'm sorry, go ahead.
02:34:41.000I'm sorry, but that is what we are seeing right now, which is another by this NIST report trying to come out and explain why something that's never happened before did happen, namely three steel buildings collapsing because of fire in one day.
02:34:54.000They do have to stretch the realms of reality.
02:34:57.000You know, they do have to contradict science and offer an alternative view, which is completely bogus, which is why I'm glad to see that people with People who are experts.
02:35:09.000People, you know, whose backgrounds are in this field are coming forward and saying, look, you guys are just straining any credibility you have here to the breaking point.
02:35:40.000Then a couple of them get peer-reviewed by major, major peer-reviewed, I mean, not just side journals, big marquee, you know, Super Bowl-level journals.
02:36:08.000So there we see another example, you know, just like the Office of National Drug Control Policy is part of the executive branch, and they are the ones who constantly spew forth misinformation about the drug war, we have NIST, which is also an executive branch administration, you know, leading the charge about the lies regarding 9-11.
02:36:29.000Well, like you said though, more and more people are tuning out of mainstream media.
02:36:33.000It's exponential, and instead of them reporting some of the truth or trying to act more credible, it seems like they're getting more shrill, more cartoonish, more ridiculous, piling lie on top of lie.
02:36:45.000I don't know what the tactic is there, but it doesn't seem to be working, Mark.
02:36:49.000Well, it reminds me of the old quote about, and I can't remember who said it, but it's just the old quote about truth coming out, you know.
02:36:56.000First, when you are a truth teller, you know, in this age of universal deceit that we live in, where those of us are trying to commit a revolutionary act by telling the truth, You know, it becomes evident that we will be attacked.
02:37:16.000Actually, the first method is to be written off and ridiculed, and that was the case early on after September 11th.
02:37:21.000We were all pigeonholed as conspiracy terrorists, and we were out of our minds, so that was the ridicule.
02:37:26.000Then you had the vicious attacks, and now it's becoming obvious that You know, the 9-11 truth movement is based on truth and facts and evidence.
02:37:40.000Yes, and that's... You know, I just want to follow up by, again, with that famous quotation, the third stage of the truth being accepted is that people will accept it.
02:37:49.000So I think now we are in the second stage.
02:37:51.000You know, those first few years we were attacked and vilified.
02:37:56.000Now we are being attacked and vilified.
02:37:59.000Hopefully we are coming close to that third stage where there will be mass acceptance of this truth and people won't be afraid to put aside their cognitive dissonance and step out and accept this new paradigm of reality that we all have to see around us.
02:38:18.000I don't blame a lot of people who don't want to look at the facts, because every night when I go to bed, I look at how innocent my children are, I look at how good my wife is, and I just think, God, there are really evil people in this world, and they really are in control, and I've really gotten their face, and man, I've been threatened, and this is dangerous.
02:38:33.000Then I realize, you know, I just can't let the world go on like this.
02:38:36.000I've got to do my job, whether it has an effect or not.
02:38:39.000But the truth is, when good people do get involved, I believe as Thomas Jefferson said, you know, that we can't overturn evil.
02:38:45.000Evil only wins when good men and women do nothing.
02:38:56.000And there's another quote I'm butchering, paraphrasing, but truth goes through three stages.
02:39:02.000First it's laughed at, then it's ridiculed, then it's accepted as universally true.
02:39:08.000And people who said the world was round were laughed at, and now we know it's round, Mark.
02:39:13.000For me personally, You know, again, I think we should all just do what we can.
02:39:19.000You know, different people have different amounts of time, different resources, be they financial or whatever.
02:39:26.000But I just felt, personally, as an American citizen, it was my duty to speak out.
02:39:31.000You know, I was asked to do a newspaper article for my hometown.
02:39:38.000And it was just one of those deals, uh, where are they now?
02:39:41.000What are they doing now that they're retired?
02:39:43.000And I just, again, I felt compelled to at least let people in Erie, Pennsylvania, my hometown, who read the paper No, that somebody who came from there doesn't believe in the official story of 9-11 and wholeheartedly believes that they too should seek out the truth for themselves.
02:40:02.000What type of response, I mean I know overwhelmingly it was positive, but what type of negative responses did you get and then what was it like with your moral courage to go through that and not recant?
02:40:13.000Well, you know, the reaction overwhelmingly was positive.
02:40:17.000I mean, I don't spend a lot of time in my hometown anymore, and I know that there were people who wrote in letters saying, you know, what's wrong with this guy?
02:40:27.000But like we discussed earlier and now that we are, you know, coming up on eight years after the fact, people are coming, I'm sorry, seven years after the fact, people are becoming aware of what actually happened that day.
02:40:40.000You know, the initial shock value of that psychological operation is wearing off.
02:40:44.000People are getting a chance to see what really went on behind the scenes.
02:40:48.000So I didn't really suffer much fallout at all.
02:40:52.000You know, it was just, again, Regardless of how many people might write in, there's always going to be a few, you know, who will just personally attack you.
02:41:01.000I experienced the same thing when I spoke out against marijuana laws.
02:41:04.000You know, you have people saying that you're not a good role model, you know, that you're a proponent of drug use and everything else.
02:41:11.000Yeah, but you go to a football game and there's liquor ads everywhere, which no doubt is bad for you, but then, you know, these guys with the whiskey bottle, how dare you be with that marijuana?
02:41:23.000Yeah, again, people have blinders on with certain respect to the war on drugs, just like they do with 9-11.
02:41:31.000So I just wanted to, again, for people in my hometown who might know who I am or what I stand for, at least they might know enough about me to know that I'm not just some guy spouting off, that I might be a guy who actually does have educated opinions.
02:41:46.000And it might be worth their while to follow up on what I said, because they might learn something.
02:41:51.000Let's take some calls from Mark Stepnowski.
02:41:53.000Mark, before we do that in the last 15 or 16 minutes, any other points you wanted to add?
02:41:58.000Anything else you wanted to point out?
02:42:00.000Well, I would just like to tell people that they should make a personal commitment in their life to continue to educate themselves on these issues.
02:42:07.000You know, the easiest thing in the world is just to pigeonhole something and write it off, put a label on it, and say, I don't have to look into it any further.
02:42:15.000You know, they'll just categorize it as something they don't want to know, and then just move on.
02:43:56.000I mean, we see now in a Dutch newspaper talk of an attack on Iran as imminent.
02:44:05.000I'm so glad to see that you're at the Democratic National Convention, because people seem to think that if we get a Democrat in office, there's going to be big changes.
02:44:12.000But the Democratic Congress has already signed off on a preemptive nuclear attack against Iran.
02:44:19.000I don't know how anybody can expect anything to the contrary, should Democrats be in power.
02:44:25.000Yeah, and again, we're not bashing either party, folks.
02:44:28.000The point is, is that the corporates have taken over everything, and until we recognize that both parties have been taken over, we can never set about fixing the real problem if we're in that controlled paradigm.
02:44:37.000Again, five-time Pro Bowler, two-time Super Bowl champion, Mark Stepnoski is our guest, former Dallas Cowboy, Houston Oiler.
02:44:46.000Let's go ahead and talk to Hi Alex and Mark.
02:44:56.000I give you a lot of credit for what you're doing.
02:44:59.000I'm involved in a situation here now where I'm experiencing my friend and girlfriend of 12 years is being soft killed as we speak.
02:45:08.000She has a brother that's in the State Department.
02:45:10.000She gave him a copy of The Road to Tyranny in about 2002.
02:45:13.000And ever since then, her family's really been against us.
02:45:18.000She was an experimental guinea pig back in 1958 and had her thymus radiated.
02:45:23.000She's always had lifelong allergies and actually a victim of sexual abuse when she was a child.
02:45:28.000Her mother brought foster kids into the house.
02:45:30.000On July of this year, she finally found out that she had a lot of thyroid problems and a lot of hormone deficiencies causing some memory problems.
02:45:38.000About a month later, her brother came home from where he works in the State Department, coerced her into going to lunch with her.
02:46:02.000So because she was a 9-11 truther, she's been stuck in a mental ward and we're starting to see this happen like the old Soviet Union.
02:46:09.000I'm gonna get your name and number off air and then we'll have you on as a guest so I can see some documents and confirm this.
02:46:16.000But we have seen calls, it's in the new film Truth Rising, all the major cable channels saying, kill Alex Jones, put them in FEMA camps, they're terrorists, Taser 9-11 truthers, send them to Gitmo, and they're serious.
02:46:30.000Mark Sipnosky, I mean, they're getting scared of us now.
02:46:37.000Yeah, whether it's Geraldo Rivera, or Bill Maher, or any of these guys who You are in a position where they have a show on corporate media and the only way they're going to continue to maintain their show is to spout the lies of the current administration, you know, the corporate party line.
02:47:00.000Yeah, well, again, you know, it's, uh... I think Sinclair Lewis said, when fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
02:47:10.000Yep, that's what Ron Paul said and got in trouble.
02:47:14.000He's saying evil people will use that.
02:47:16.000Yeah, I mean, if that's not what we're seeing right now, I don't know what we're seeing.
02:47:21.000Because, you know, we are looking at, again, the corporate ownership of both political parties.
02:47:28.000Again, you're wrapped in a flag carrying a cross.
02:47:31.000Supposedly, in defense of religion and freedom, they are trying to ramrod a whole system of laws through that is to the detriment of everybody.
02:47:42.000You got it, and it has nothing to do with Christianity.
02:47:45.000Adam in Texas, you're on the air with Mark Stipnoski, go ahead.
02:48:27.000I think, again, like we saw with Geraldo Rivera and like we saw with Bill Maher, there's going to have to continue, and we are change people who do it everywhere, there has to continue to be a breakthrough into mainstream media of 9-11 truth.
02:48:42.000Again, it's become obvious that we're not going to have a top-down solution to this problem.
02:48:48.000You know, the censorship is coming from top-down.
02:49:11.000What's the term, I'll tip my tongue, where the ball is moved by running, you know, just a foot at a time, a long battle down the whole field?
02:50:38.000Well, what I was thinking was, if you're playing defense, and that's what the 9-11 thing is all about, we're defending ourselves against those guys.
02:52:11.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
02:52:17.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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02:54:12.000Mark, do you have a personal website or is there a site you want to plug or something you want to say here at the end?
02:54:19.000Well, again, I would just, you know, for those of Those of us in Canada, I would just like again to bring up the march that the 9-11 Truth Society of Vancouver has orchestrated.
02:54:34.000It's going to culminate in Ottawa on September 15th.
02:54:37.000I believe today they're in Sudbury and Toronto, Ontario.
02:54:42.000These 9-11 Truthers have been traveling across the country to get petitions.
02:54:47.000They're going to march from Montreal to Ottawa.
02:54:51.000And arrive on September 11th with all the signatures that they get nationwide on this petition, and this is for a new 9-11 investigation in Canada.
02:55:00.000Because what people forget is 9-11 was, it was obviously portrayed as an attack against America, but it was a worldwide crime.
02:55:09.000There were citizens, I believe, from over 80 countries in the World Trade Center.
02:55:14.000And it totally freaks out the global controllers when we're out marching, when we don't shut up, when we don't stop.
02:56:14.000People appreciate someone who's willing to come forward.
02:56:16.000I think as time goes on, people are realizing how sanitized and censored mainstream media is.
02:56:23.000And whether somebody is a 9-11 truther who tells the truth or a politician who's willing to give up the talking points and just, you know, speak truthfully, people appreciate that because it's so rare.
02:56:53.000Thank you for taking my call, and thank you for keeping the truth sacred.
02:56:57.000I believe that if the truth can be told so as to be understood, that it will be believed, and that's what you do so well, Alex, and I'm proud.
02:57:05.000I'm a proud InfoWarrior, working to wake up anyone with a pulse and an attention span, and it gives me a true sense of purpose and a real feeling of patriotism.
02:57:14.000And I intuit that we have critical mass, and given that the news report is laughable, it's just a matter of time before we have resolutions.
02:57:23.000God bless you guys, and thank you so much.
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03:00:01.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
03:00:07.000Well, he testified before the House Judiciary Committee on a preliminary hearing on whether they should hear full hearings, evidence on moves to impeach George W. Bush.
03:00:21.000The President And I wanted to have him on today to talk about that and go over his evidence.
03:00:27.000He is, of course, needs no introduction, best-selling author, the prosecutor who successfully nailed the Manson family to the wall and a bunch of other famous cases, a great legal mind, and the jury's in.
03:00:39.000People believe, even they had Bob Barr and others up there, that he was the most effective and most powerful in the hearing last week.
03:00:50.000He's so focused on trying to prosecute Bush and trying to get impeachment or some type of grand jury to move for indictment that he wasn't aware of this.
03:01:02.000On ThinkProgress, there's no doubt I made phone calls last night and this morning.
03:01:07.000Cy Hirsch, Seymour Hirsch of the New Yorker Magazine, highly respected, White House sources, Congressional sources, probably the greatest living investigative journalist who broke five years ago that U.S.
03:01:18.000Special Forces were in Iran with Wahhabist Al Qaeda-type groups attacking the Iranian Shiite government as a pretext to overthrow it or start a war.
03:01:27.000He broke, along with the Times of London the same day, the story about the White House memo.
03:01:32.000He broke this two years ago, or a year and a half ago, the plan to fly U.S.
03:01:46.000Major breaking news, and so I want to read a little bit of a report after the break to him and play a few minutes of Cy Hirsch talking, but then pooh-poohing, saying, well, they just planned, you know, he just proposed, Cheney in a meeting, getting seals to have a bunch of arms and have a clash with destroyers and have them shoot at each other and some people could die.
03:02:06.000But, you know, that's the high school annex.
03:02:08.000So we kind of pooh-poohed it, and I find this to be really disgusting in a way.
03:02:13.000Vincent Bugliosi, I hate to, you know, Bushwacky here with new info, but I'm going to cover the sources for you after the break, but what do you think about this?
03:02:22.000I'm so focused on getting George Bush in an American courtroom, being prosecuted for murder and taking the nation to war in Iraq on a lie, that I literally, other than reading headlines, do not have time to read the daily newspapers, so I'm being exposed to this for the first time, but I'd like to hear it.
03:02:42.000I'll tell you what, John, Move that to 2 minutes 20 seconds in when when when her starts talking on the stage that is the best place to Start this and we and we're gonna go to break and some stations join us after the break So that's that's good.
03:02:57.000We'll have all our full audience then.
03:02:59.000But just now, let me give you the background.
03:03:01.000Cheney neocons consider killing Americans in pretext to attack Iran, ThinkProgress, and other publications.
03:03:06.000In the video here, taped to the campus of Progress Journalism Conference earlier this month, month the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh reveals how the neocons convened around Dick Cheney and brainstormed ways to kick off World War IV as they finally call their pet project to take out the Muslims and foment a contrived clash of civilizations.
03:03:28.000Now, I went and checked the conference website at the university.
03:03:38.000We're trying to get a response because he has a responsibility to tell us the other eleven provocations they were planning.
03:03:47.000Okay, and it's also come out that right after This meeting was right after they had the event, where they claimed that the PT Iranian boats in the Strait of Hormuz came out and wanted to attack the ship.
03:03:58.000Turned out they were over a mile away, and there was a fake radio transmission.
03:04:04.000It was obviously an Anglo with a ridiculous fake Muslim voice going, Eastern voice, Persian voice going, we are going to blow you up in one minute.
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03:07:52.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
03:07:55.000During the break, because we already played it last hour, I played the audio, part of the audio, of the full video that's up on Infowars.com right now.
03:08:10.000And And again, you hear Cyrus talk about, he's written a little article that mentioned they wanted provocations, but not what they were, and that the New Yorker editors said, oh, well, that's not newsworthy that they were discussing this.
03:08:23.000I mean, that's like saying President Bush and Dick Cheney were discussing Kidnapping children, or cutting babies out of women's wombs like Charlie Manson.
03:08:32.000But they didn't do it, so we're not going to talk about it when they clearly have staged other provocations.
03:08:39.000This is just incredible, and I know Vincent Bugliosi, famous prosecutor who did prosecute the Manson family, hence the mention of Charlie Manson, doesn't like to get into things he hasn't fully vetted or looked at yet, but I put in the audio during the break.
03:08:53.000Give us your preliminary take on that.
03:09:04.000By people, I mean the Bush administration.
03:09:07.000But I would like to have either a transcript of this meeting that took place between Cheney and who else, or someone having written the minutes or a memo on the meeting.
03:09:18.000It would be a little stronger if we had that.
03:09:20.000But it's totally consistent with the Manning memo that I talk about.
03:09:26.000In my book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, where Bush himself, not just Cheney, but Bush himself is talking about how to provoke a war, which Tom was saying, I agree with you 100% that this is relevant, even though they didn't go ahead and do it, because it's reflective of their state of mind.
03:09:44.000And that's very important in a criminal trial, their state of mind, that they are willing To deliberately deceive the American public in taking this nation to war.
03:09:53.000And it also shows premeditation for dastardly deeds.
03:09:58.000So whether they go ahead on it or not is not relevant.
03:10:01.000The relevant thing is what's their state of mind that they're very willing Well, Vincent Bugliosi, we're going to get into your book, we're going to get into the Manning Memo.
03:10:10.000I want you to spend some time on that first, since it does dovetail.
03:10:13.000But as a famous, highly respected prosecutor and legal scholar, if I met with ten guys and discussed twelve different crimes, and were seriously thinking about implementing them, isn't that a crime in and of itself?
03:11:41.000And by the way, we're not talking about the Downing Street Memo.
03:11:43.000That's a totally different memo, and it's kind of ambiguous.
03:11:46.000If I prosecuted Bush, that would be offered, but it's not strong enough to go to war, I mean, to go to trial on.
03:11:51.000Yeah, that's telling the British, fix intelligence, we're going to lie.
03:11:55.000Yeah, but there was no source for that, and it's a little ambiguous what fixing the evidence means.
03:12:01.000It could mean creating evidence, which would be very, very serious, or it could mean cherry-picking, which is a lot weaker.
03:12:08.000But the Manning Memo, this is January 31st, 2003, Bush met with British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
03:12:15.000In the Oval Office for two hours with six of his top aides, including Blair's Chief Foreign Policy Advisor, David Manning.
03:12:24.000After the meeting, Manning prepared a five-page memo stamp, quote, extremely sensitive, unquote, in which he summarized, Alex, what was said at the meeting.
03:12:34.000And among other things, he said that George Bush, not Blair, but Bush, Uh, was so worried about the failure of UN inspectors to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that he talked about three possible ways to quote, provoke a confrontation, unquote, with Hussein, one of which Bush said was to quote, fly U-2 reconnaissance aircraft over Iraq, falsely painted in United Nations colors.
03:12:59.000And Bush said that if Hussein fired upon them, uh, he'd be in violation of UN revolutions and that would justify our going to war.
03:13:07.000Now, here we have Alex, George Bush, telling the American people, telling the world, that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country, but behind closed doors, this small man was talking about how to provoke Hussein into a war.
03:13:25.000Now, if Bush honestly, and let's italicize the word honestly, If he honestly believed that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country, which is the main reason he gave the American people going to war, by definition, the thought of provoking Hussein into a war would never, ever have entered his mind.
03:13:43.000I was on the Dennis Moore Show a couple weeks ago.
03:13:47.000Dennis fell hopelessly in love with the Republican Party at the time of 9-11, and I poked fun of him in my book.
03:13:52.000And I said, Dennis, you're defending George Bush at his trial for murder, and the prosecutor calls David Manning to the witness stand to testify to what your guy said on January 31st, 2003.
03:14:04.000Other than trying to hide beneath the consul table, Dennis, what would your response be to David Manning's testimony?
03:14:15.000No matter how long that recess uh... went on for ten minutes an hour a week uh... or a year there's no answer to the manning uh... memo other than guilt it clearly shows george bush uh... wanted to take the national war on a lie uh... the fact that they didn't implement that is not relevant uh... it's relevant in that we couldn't prosecute it on that alone but it shows that he lied when he told the nation that he believed that hussein was an imminent threat to security this country because if you believe that
03:14:44.000He never, by definition, would have been talking about how to provoke Hussein into a war.
03:14:48.000And he then had his surrogates go out and produce, excised, as you covered in the hearings last week, before the judiciary, false, dummied-up reports that had then been brought to Congress and before the United Nations.
03:15:01.000So he had his surrogates all over, pushing a line, and then took us to the war.
03:15:06.000Yeah, in fact, on June 16th, I got a call here in L.A.
03:15:10.000from a very conservative Republican congressman from the South who voted for the war, was one of its most vocal supporters.
03:15:19.000I'm not giving his name right now because he's running for re-election, but he told me that come November, he wants to be on my side, hopefully when George Bush is indicted for murder, in any event.
03:15:30.000He heard the tape on the book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, and he called me, and he said, Mr. Boyle, I want to tell you that I'm convinced now that George Bush misled Congress, he didn't mention the American people, to mislead Congress into war.
03:15:45.000I've given several copies of the book to colleagues, including John Conyers, who called me, by the way, about a month ago, or three weeks ago, I forget how long ago, but anyway, he said he was reading the book, and he'd gotten a copy of the book.
03:15:59.000And he said that, um, where am I here on the story here?
03:16:04.000I'm talking about this Republican congressman.
03:16:09.000He said he's given them a copy of the book, asked them to read it, and told them, read the book, we were lied to.
03:16:17.000He felt very bad himself that he was susceptible to that lie.
03:16:22.000And I told him, uh, Congressman, do not feel that way.
03:16:25.000You were not, as he learned in the book, you were not given the information that you were supposed to be given.
03:16:31.000Well, Bush, on the evening of October the 7th, 2002, from Cincinnati, Ohio, this was his first reference to Hussein in Iraq being a threat to the country.
03:16:43.000He told the nation that, um, that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country.
03:16:50.000Either by his attacking us with weapons of mass destruction or giving those weapons to a terrorist group to attack us.
03:16:57.000And he said this attack can happen quote, on any given day unquote, meaning the threat was imminent.
03:17:03.000The big problem for George Bush is that the evidence shows that what he told the American people was the exact opposite Of what his own CIA had told him just six days earlier in a classified October 1st report, that Hussein was not an imminent threat.
03:17:21.000Now we get into the issue of deletions.
03:17:44.000He said, uh, he said, I, not referring to me, but he said, um, I'm about to have an aneurysm.
03:17:51.000Now, I don't know if that was a Freudian slip or what have you, but I told, uh, I told Congress that in this October 4th, um, uh, unclassified version of the, of the classified report, it was called the white paper.
03:18:09.000This is what the Bush administration did.
03:18:11.000They had an unclassified summary version of an October 1st report to give to Congress and the American people.
03:18:16.000And in this unclassified version, the conclusion of U.S.
03:18:21.000intelligence, we're talking about 16 U.S.
03:18:23.000intelligence agencies led by the CIA, the conclusion of U.S.
03:18:27.000intelligence that Hussein was not an imminent threat to the security of this country, Was completely deleted.
03:18:35.000Every single one of those all-important words was taken out.
03:18:50.000Those that don't understand, they premeditatedly edited the 16 agencies reports, created a fraud, and then put it forward as 16 anonymous agencies saying he is a threat, when they said he isn't an imminent threat.
03:19:09.000intelligence agencies was that Hussein was not an imminent threat to security to this country, but the white paper that was given to Congress just seven days, just seven days before Congress voted on whether to authorize George Bush to go to war, October 11th.
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03:24:14.000But continuing with the absolute evidence that, I mean, you use the number of 100,000 dead in Iraq, but most of the big, the lands at study and You know, other international respected groups who are non-partisan have said that it's closer to a million now.
03:24:31.000I mean, two and a half years ago it was six hundred plus thousand dead.
03:24:43.000Of course, but by the way, Alex, in my endnotes, a lot of times people don't read endnotes, but my endnotes are a little different than a lot of people.
03:24:51.000Some of my endnotes go on for 20, 30 pages in my book on the Kennedy Fascination.
03:24:55.000I have an endnote that goes on for 60 pages, I think, with about 30 footnotes.
03:24:59.000I'm not dropping names here, but Johnny Carson said, Vince, I read all your endnotes.
03:25:03.000But the only reason I mention that now is I do mention what you say about the estimates being as high as one million, and that was about a year ago.
03:25:11.000So I'm using a very conservative number in the main text of a 100,000.
03:25:17.000Summarizing what I'm saying up to where we left off, we have Bush then telling the nation on October the 7th that Hussein was an imminent threat to the security of this country and he was telling millions of unsuspecting Americans the exact opposite of what his own CIA had told him just six days earlier.
03:25:36.000Uh, that Hussein was not an imminent threat.
03:25:38.000And then I was pointing out to you that, on October the 4th, the Bush administration put out an unclassified summary version of this classified report, so they could give it to Congress and the American people.
03:25:48.000And this report was called the White Paper, and in that White Paper, uh, the main conclusion of the October 1st classified report, that Hussein was not an imminent threat, was completely deleted.
03:26:00.000So, Congress and the American people did not see that.
03:26:03.000There were two other things In that classified report that Congress and the American people never saw, and the Republican Congressmen saw it for the first time in the book.
03:26:14.000One, the conclusion, it was an erroneous conclusion, that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
03:26:20.000We subsequently learned that they were all destroyed in 1991 at the end of the Persian Gulf War.
03:26:25.000That conclusion was stated in the Classified Report as an opinion, with the words, we assess that, or we judge that, Hussein has weapons of mass destruction.
03:26:36.000The white report, or the white paper, the words, we judge that, we assess that, were deleted, and that opinion was stated as a fact.
03:26:44.000The words were, Hussein has weapons of mass destruction.
03:26:48.000Also, there were several very important dissents in the area of nuclear weapons in the Classified Report.
03:26:56.000All of those dissents were deleted from the white paper.
03:27:00.000This is extremely powerful evidence that Bush took this nation to war knowingly and deliberately on a lie, under false pretenses.
03:27:07.000And therefore, under the law, under the law, he's guilty of murder for the death of over 4,000 young American soldiers who have died so far fighting his war.
03:27:16.000Not your war, Alex, or my war, or America's war, but his war.
03:27:20.000One of the key issues that I knew would come up, if there's going to be a prosecution, and there very well could be after he leaves office, right now he has temporary immunity, is whether there's jurisdiction to prosecute George Bush.
03:27:33.000And I spent a great number of hours at the L.A.
03:27:35.000County Law Library, the 9th Circuit Library, trying to establish jurisdiction.
03:27:38.000I was unable to establish jurisdiction for the well over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, children, and babies who have died in his war.
03:27:46.000Bush is guilty of those murders, but I couldn't establish jurisdiction for them.
03:27:50.000But I was able to establish jurisdiction to prosecute Bush for the murder of the over 4,000 young American soldiers.
03:27:57.000And I established jurisdiction for the Attorney General in Washington, D.C.
03:28:01.000acting through his Department of Justice.
03:28:03.000We're only talking really about one prosecutor there.
03:28:06.000attorneys around the country, but they're not going to bring an action against Bush without the consent of their boss.
03:28:11.000But on a state level, I established jurisdiction for the Attorney General, Alex, in each of the 50 states.
03:28:18.000Plus the approximately 950 district attorneys in counties within those states to prosecute Bush for the murder of any soldier or soldiers from their state or county who died fighting Bush's war in Iraq.
03:28:32.000So with over or approximately 1,000 prosecutors out there in this land of ours, and with all the evidence of guilt that I present in my book, The Prosecution of George Bush for Murder, I don't think it's unreasonable to believe, Alex, that there's at least one prosecutor out there that's courageous enough to step forward, maybe there's many more, step forward and say, this is the United States of America.
03:28:57.000The evidence of Bush's guilt is clear, so I'm going to go after him.
03:29:01.000And when we talk about 1,000 prosecutors, before Bush passes away, that number may go up to 7,000 or 8,000 prosecutors, because there's no statute of limitations for the crime of murder.
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03:33:16.000He's Vincent Bugliosi, best-selling author.
03:33:18.000Books he's written have been made into films, TV shows, you name it.
03:33:22.000Mr. Bugliosi, getting into the mind, you know, you've studied criminology, you've been death-threatened before, you've dealt with these type of individuals.
03:33:30.000We know that psychopaths, the controlled psychopaths, go for positions of power throughout history.
03:33:36.000Comparing the mind of Charlie Manson and other psychos you put away with George Bush, with Cheney, with the neocons, with their nasty mindset, give us your analysis on their mindset.
03:33:51.000Well, I don't know if I have an authority on the mindset.
03:33:54.000You know, I had to prove that the defendant committed the crime, and that there was no legal justification for him to do so.
03:34:02.000We certainly got into the mind in the resolution of that issue.
03:34:07.000But motive is not an element of the corpus delicti of any crime.
03:34:11.000So I've actually put people on death row without knowing for sure why they committed the crime.
03:34:16.000All I knew is that they had done it, put someone in their grave six feet under, and they had no legal justification for doing so.
03:34:22.000Asking me kind of to compare Manson with Bush.
03:34:26.000Manson obviously was a very evil person.
03:34:30.000Let me get that off the hook here so we're not interrupted.
03:34:33.000Manson was a very evil person who wanted to kill as many people as he could and I knew that if he was not stopped he would have killed as many people as he could have.
03:34:46.000Someone who knew Manson a lot better than I did, because he lived with him.
03:34:50.000He said, Ben's death... Death is Charlie's trip.
03:34:56.000So I would classify Manson as being a very evil human being, who placed no value on human life, and he had a passion for death, blood, and murder.
03:35:11.000He certainly doesn't want to kill anyone.
03:35:15.000But he's a despicable human being who couldn't care less when people do die.
03:35:21.000He's extremely arrogant, extremely self-centered, and one of the emotional underpinnings for this book, basically, is the fact that, and we're getting into this issue now, that he couldn't possibly care less about the fact that his own people were being killed or the death of innocent Iraqi civilians.
03:35:44.000One of the emotional underpinnings from my book is the fact that the evidence is overwhelming that throughout the hell on earth that Bush created an Iraq with over 100,000 people dying horrible violent deaths and hundreds of thousands of their survivors crying out hysterically and having terrible nightmares over what happened to their loved ones.
03:36:01.000This guy, George Bush, has smiled through it all.
03:36:05.000In fact, we see a photo of Bush and six or seven other people smiling.
03:36:08.000Alex, who has the biggest smile on his face right in the middle of the war, George Bush.
03:36:12.000The evidence is very clear and anyone that tries to dispute it is just going to be looking like a fool.
03:36:18.000That while young American soldiers, 18, 19 year old kids, Alex, who never had a chance to live out their dreams, were being blown to pieces by roadside bombs in Iraq, Bush was having a lot of fun And enjoying life to the very fullest.
03:36:35.000I'm talking about running, bicycling, joking with friends, slapping backs, dancing and swiveling his hips like Elvis to blaring music.
03:36:42.000Almost always appearing to be in the very best of good spirits.
03:37:03.000And then he lied and said, oh, I haven't been playing golf since the war started.
03:37:07.000And it turns out he's playing every week.
03:37:09.000So it's also the endless lying and just the arrogance, thinking we're all idiots.
03:37:15.000Yeah, you look at a photograph of people like, or presidents like Roosevelt, Truman, LBJ, and Nixon, a photograph of their faces during the time of war, their respective wars, and the photos reflect the grimness of the war.
03:37:33.000Unlike any other president in American history, during a time of war, Bush has regularly and routinely had a lot of fun and been in high spirits.
03:37:43.000You can say what you want about Nixon or LBJ, but they obsessed in the war room and tried to figure things out and got ulcers and lost sleep and these weren't even very moral people in many respects, but they took it serious.
03:37:57.000LBJ told one of his aides, Jack Valenti, that every time in the morning when he'd read the casualty reports, it was like drinking carbolic acid.
03:38:05.000And for your audience out there, I would tell them that they don't have to take my word for this, or the photographs in the book, and they're not gotcha photos, they're photos showing Bush having an absolute ball.
03:38:15.000Bush himself has had no hesitancy at all in saying things like this, Alex, over and over again.
03:38:22.000And while I'm quoting Bush, these are just some quotes that are in the book, while I'm quoting him, try to think, I'm asking your audience, you try to think of, at the very same time he's uttering these words, all of the death and the horror and the suffering and the screaming and the mutilations and beheadings that are taking place in Iraq, while he's uttering these words.
03:38:54.000Alex, if I killed one person, even accidentally, like in a car accident, I'd never have another perfect day for the rest of my life.
03:39:01.000And I'm telling you, this guy has been having a ball, enjoying himself to the utmost throughout this entire war.
03:39:07.000And I say this, that even if George Bush was only guilty of making an innocent mistake in taking this nation to war in Iraq, not murder, as I firmly believe, With all of the death, horror, and suffering he has caused, what type of a monstrous individual is it who could be happy with his life?
03:39:49.000Well, he's a bicycling friend of Bush, and I think he was the head of Bush's media campaign, or one of his strategists, I think he was the head of it, in the 2004 re-election campaign.
03:40:01.000He told the New York Times in 2005, right in the midst of all the horror and atrocities going on in Iraq, he said he'd never seen the President more calm, relaxed, and happy.
03:40:12.000And to me, this is almost unprecedented.
03:40:20.000I don't believe he's lost one wink of sleep over all the deaths that he's caused in Iraq.
03:40:26.000Well, what about the working out three hours a day and taking two-hour naps and then says he doesn't even read the newspaper?
03:40:33.000Oh yeah, probably even more telling than all of this.
03:40:37.000My wife and I, during a seven-year period, I work seven days a week, I get to bed around two in the morning, wake up at ten, she says, you work from morning to morning.
03:40:45.000We had our 50th anniversary and we took three days off in the desert during a seven-year period that Bush was president.
03:40:52.000If it hadn't been for the anniversary, probably wouldn't even have taken those three days off.
03:40:57.000Now the only reason I mention that is that I'm, you know, a cypher, a complete nobody, I'm just an author.
03:41:03.000During that same period, you know how many days George Bush took off for a vacation?
03:41:17.000So I take three days off and I'm nothing.
03:41:19.000He's the President of the United States.
03:41:22.000And I was told by the CBS radio guy who follows the White House that up until January 1st, 2008, he had taken off 908 days on vacation.
03:41:32.000Here's someone that's not particularly bright at all.
03:41:35.000Everyone agrees, even his supporters, that he has an extremely low amount of knowledge.
03:41:41.000If you were to take the average person and put them in the presidency with Bush's lack of knowledge, what would that person do if he loved America?
03:41:48.000He'd work round the clock trying to get as knowledgeable as he could so he could represent this country in the best possible way.
03:41:55.000To bring it to a better condition than it presently is in.
03:43:08.000With respect to Bush's monumental crime in this case, here's my Uh... view and I view it more as a fact than as an opinion.
03:43:16.000Because George Bush is a conservative Republican and so are they, anything he does, anything at all, including murder, Listen, I have people in my message board on Infowars.com, and they come in and go, yeah, the government stages events to get us into war, it's good.
03:43:33.000Yeah, cops are tasing people to death, it's good.
03:43:36.000I mean, it seems like it's not just Bush and his psychopathic or sociopathic activities.
03:43:41.000The whole society, and I've always seen myself as, you know, a mainline conservative slash libertarian, But it's not just George Bush.
03:43:48.000It's a lot of these Republican followers.
03:43:50.000They think it's cute and funny to be evil.
03:43:53.000They think it's cute and funny Iraqis are dying.
03:43:55.000They post on their blogs pictures of Iraqi children with their feet blown off and talk about nuking them and turning them into a glass parking lot.
03:44:03.000They really are demonic, psychopathic camp followers.
03:44:07.000Now, they wouldn't actually want to go blow the kids' feet off.
03:44:09.000They'd throw up at the sight of real blood.
03:44:12.000But it's like some kind of Some type of stunted bloodlust.
03:45:32.000With these right-wingers, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, he was savaged by the right-wing media, including the liberal New York Times and Washington Post.
03:45:44.000The monstrous Ken Starr, with federal funding, conducted a seven-year, $70 million effort to destroy the Clinton presidency.
03:45:57.000They tried to drive him from office for doing nothing.
03:46:00.000And here's George Bush, responsible for, like you say, probably over one million murders, and they don't want to do anything at all.
03:46:08.000And I say this, uh, Bush and his people have gotten away with thousands upon thousands of murders, and we, America, the American people, cannot let him do this.
03:46:18.000And this is why I'm not going to be satisfied.
03:46:20.000I may not succeed, but I'm not going to be satisfied until I see this guy in an American courtroom being prosecuted for first-degree murder.
03:46:27.000And if the jury convicts him, Alex, as you know, it'll be up to them to decide the appropriate punishment.
03:46:31.000One of their options being the imposition of the death penalty.
03:46:34.000The other options being life imprisonment and life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
03:48:12.000Talking about Clinton's Alleged crimes vis-a-vis Bush's as you know at the hearings Friday in Congress.
03:48:19.000There was a professor from Northwestern Mr.. Presser.
03:48:22.000I don't know his first name, but anyway.
03:48:24.000He was denouncing all the horrible things that George Bush did but had no trouble with what?
03:48:30.000No all the horrible things he said that Clinton did but had no trouble with what George Bush did and I just said mr.. Presser I You apparently think it's worse what Clinton did, lying to the American public about consensual sex.
03:48:47.000And you feel that's worse than George Bush lying to the American public about going to war and all the death, horror, and suffering that has resulted from it.
03:48:56.000And I said, I would ask you this question, Mr. Presser.
03:48:59.000What previously recognized form of logic would allow you to reach a conclusion like that?
03:49:51.000My publisher said she had never seen another book in her over 30 years that had been totally blacked out by the mainstream national media, up until a New York Times article about two weeks ago pointing out the blackout.
03:50:09.000It got so bad that ABC Radio refused to take money from my publisher.
03:50:14.000To take out a radio spot on the news, on their network for the book, Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.
03:50:22.000But despite that, the book, because of people like you and incredible word of mouth, And that's because they know they're complicit going along with it.
03:50:29.000this week but it's because of people like you that have given me a voice but the mainstream national media has not want to talk to me about this book they don't want to talk about Bush being prosecuted for murder and that's because they know they're complicit going along with it we'll be right back with your phone calls and Vincent Bugliosi are you tired of hearing that a cure for cancer is coming but it will be available sometime in the future at At LaysMedInc, the future is here.
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03:54:41.000We have one of the most successful prosecutors in U.S.
03:54:44.000history, Prosecutor Manson, among other unsavory people, let's put it lightly.
03:54:50.000Vincent Bugliosi, he has the new New York Times bestseller, despite a total media blackout, in mainstream control, corporate media out of fear, and their complicity in all this, and they have a stake in the whole establishment, basically, the military industrial complex, in covering this up.
03:55:06.000But despite that, it is number 9 on the New York Times bestseller list, the prosecution of George W. Bush for murder by Vincent Bugliosi.
03:55:49.000Mr. Berlusconi, has there ever been a successful prosecution of somebody of Bush's status?
03:55:55.000And if this trial ever does come to court, will those that choose to prosecute him, will they live to see the verdict?
03:56:07.000Well, those that choose to prosecute him live to see the verdict that, well, you're saying there'd be a whole trial, and then before the verdict, after the trial, but just before the verdict, someone's going to step forward and kill them?
03:56:20.000Well, I would think that, you know, somebody that doesn't take on this type of job would have great concern.
03:56:29.000Well, I'm looking for a courageous prosecutor out there.
03:56:33.000About two weeks ago, not even that long, maybe a week and a half ago, the publisher sent out Uh, a copy of my book, Prosecution of George Bush for Murder, to each of the 50 state attorney generals in this country, with a cover letter from me, asking the prosecutor to read the book, and if they agree that the evidence of Bush's guilt is clear, and that there's jurisdiction that they proceed against him, they can't prosecute him right now, but they can commence the criminal investigation of him.
03:56:59.000And I offered my services to the prosecutor in whichever way he or she sees fit, which would range from being a consultant all the way up to and including being appointed a special prosecutor.
03:57:12.000I certainly would not be averse to prosecuting George W. Bush for murder, and I can tell you right now that unquestionably I would seek the death penalty against him.
03:57:21.000I mean, here's a guy, by the way, who is very much in favor of the death penalty, probably had the highest execution rate In the history of any governor, 152 cases came across his desk when he was governor of Texas.
03:57:33.000And by the way, he would give press conferences and then giggle and laugh about it and talk about how they begged him.
03:57:38.000I mean, if you're going to execute somebody, you don't make jokes about it.
03:57:41.000No, of course, but he signed off on 152 of 152, even signed off on a death warrant for a young man who was mentally retarded.
03:57:50.000So I would seek the death penalty against him.
03:57:53.000I got to think there's at least one courageous prosecutor out there, and I'm going to be looking for him.
03:58:59.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
03:59:05.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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