Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Peace Prize winner, economist, best-selling author, and former chief economist at the World Bank joins us to discuss the current economic slowdown and what it means for the future of the world's largest economy.
00:01:10.000And I think It was a little bit predictable, though, and in fact I probably, if you asked me, I would have said that I did not think the turmoil was over, and that I think it's going to go on for another year, year and a half, two years, the economic slowdown.
00:01:28.000Well, we did ask you that, and you did say two to three years, going from memory, and that it would deepen.
00:01:34.000Did you think it would deepen this fast?
00:01:37.000You can't predict exactly when these kinds of events happen.
00:01:42.000Yes, I actually did think it would be happening roughly around now.
00:01:47.000Basically, what's been happening is the cumulative effects.
00:02:21.000I was just breaking there for some stations that left us.
00:02:25.000And let's make sure and talk about your new book also before you leave us today, because that ties into all of this.
00:02:33.000Why were you, five, six, seven years ago, talking about, in fact I remember first interviewing you about six years ago, you were bringing up the fact that there was no accountability, that they were Leveraging these asset-backed securities, these debt-backed securities.
00:02:51.000I remember four years ago you came on the show, you were talking about problems with mortgages and the real estate bubble in the United States.
00:02:58.000I mean, why were you talking about this years and years before anybody else was really talking about it?
00:03:04.000Well, the problem is that much of the news, much of the views on what's going on in the financial markets comes from those who are making money out of the financial markets.
00:03:16.000So if you were, you know, one of the people in Lehman Brothers, one of the people in AIG, you're going to be talking up the economy.
00:03:25.000You're going to say how wonderful the thing is, go buy my shares.
00:03:28.000And in fact, the head of Uh, Lehman Brothers, uh, last April, uh, was quoted as saying, you know, we've turned the corner.
00:03:37.000The economy is, you know, is on the uptick.
00:03:40.000And the same thing goes for the President and the Secretary of Treasury.
00:03:48.000Not only have they been telling the American people, they've been going around the world.
00:03:52.000I talked to senior government officials all over the world, and they said, you know, we just had a private meeting with the Secretary of Treasury, and he said, you've turned the corner.
00:05:50.000We don't bring you the economists who have been wrong, the ones they like to put on TV all the time, though you're on television sometimes, but it's about 90% disinfo in my opinion.
00:05:59.000You were getting into the red flags you saw years ago, and then going into this war, and why you've been ringing the alarm bells about really serious financial problems.
00:06:13.000Well, what I was saying is that there are several things, both about the war and the way that it was financed, that should have been a cause of concern.
00:07:06.000When we had an economic downturn back in 2001, we had a surplus of 2% of GDP, and that gave us a lot of ammunition to use to try to remedy the problem.
00:07:22.000Now, this year and next year, we're expected to have the largest deficit in America's history, in one year hitting half a trillion dollars.
00:07:33.000The second problem was that the war is, in my judgment, Largely responsible for the increase in the price of oil was back in 2003, it was $23, $25 a barrel.
00:07:48.000Futures markets understood that there was going to be increases in demand from China, from other places, but they believed that there would be a concomitant increase in supply from the Middle East.
00:08:00.000The war changed that equation and now we have Oil, $100 a gallon.
00:08:07.000Now, normally, if a country is spending so much more money abroad as we were, importing oil from Kuwait, from Saudi Arabia, from other countries, it's going to weaken the economy.
00:08:41.000The housing bubble led to a consumption boom.
00:08:44.000Savings in the United States went down to zero.
00:08:47.000It sustained the economy for a while, but we were living on borrowed money and borrowed time, and it was just a matter of time before something happened.
00:08:55.000And so when I looked at what was going on, how the economy continued, in spite of the high oil prices, in spite of the war, It was clear to me, and I saw the housing bubble, and I saw what was happening to savings rate.
00:09:10.000You didn't have to be a genius to say that there were problems around the corner.
00:09:15.000In fact, I saw that number in January of 2007 that was the highest.
00:09:21.000Debt ratio for the average American and lack of savings rate, both, since the depths of the Great Depression.
00:09:33.000And that by itself should have been a sign of a problem, but there were even other signs.
00:09:41.000Housing prices were getting higher and higher as part of this bubble.
00:09:47.000Most Americans' income were stagnating.
00:09:50.000In fact, median income adjusted for inflation was declining.
00:09:55.000And again, you don't have to be a genius to say, look it, Americans can't spend more and more if their incomes are going down, more and more on housing, if their incomes are going down and down.
00:10:11.000And the banks, in spite of the fact that the housing prices were getting so out of line, increased the fraction of the value of the house that they were willing to lend against.
00:10:26.000And they were actually having loans where you didn't even have to pay the interest on the loan.
00:10:35.000Now expanding from there, where do you see this going?
00:10:41.000I mean, how do you see the government, the Treasury, the private Federal Reserve, this whole international order dealing with this?
00:10:49.000Because I've seen Financial Times of London articles saying, look, other contractions, other speculation bubble, implosions have been manageable and have even been some opportunities for people that weren't in debt and people that did save, both the local level or the international level.
00:11:09.000It didn't matter where you were geopolitically.
00:11:11.000Now, they're talking about this being a financial black hole that, if it continues, might even make the Treasury become insolvent.
00:11:21.000Well, this is clearly the most serious problem since the Great Depression, and in some ways worse in terms of the financial institutions
00:11:35.000The reason, in part, is that while some of the same problems that have occurred then and have occurred since then, excessive leverage, pyramid schemes, bubbles, have happened before, the so-called innovation of Wall Street, the financial innovations,
00:11:55.000created, it was supposed to manage risk, it created risk, and created a kind of non-transparency that is so great that no one knows exactly what the magnitude, what the nature of the risk they face.
00:12:12.000In fact, that's now coming out where these companies say, we can't show you your books, we don't even really have them.
00:12:18.000I mean, it's just, you know, the companies are saying they can't extrapolate how these algorithms are even working, what these computer systems are doing, who owns what debt, how it was leveraged.
00:12:30.000Exactly, and that's why no one trusts anybody else.
00:12:35.000Who wants to buy Lehman Brothers when you don't know what its liabilities are?
00:12:39.000Well, that's my question, because you won one of your two Nobel Prizes for coming up with these asymmetrical models, or looking at certain strata, something they hadn't done, so you're an expert on this.
00:12:50.000Exactly, and what I cautioned about, I wrote about these problems of asymmetric information, the fact that Some people know things that others don't know, but this is in some ways a double problem, because not only do others not know, say, what Lehman Brothers May know.
00:13:11.000Lehman Brothers doesn't know what it ought to know.
00:13:13.000Which makes it even harder to say, if you have a fire, no one has a full blueprint of even the building.
00:13:20.000So that's where we are in this crisis.
00:13:23.000And that, of course, means that no one's willing to lend to anybody else.
00:13:27.000And that, of course, restricts credit.
00:13:30.000So we have a crisis of trust, not just with the public and the banks, but with the institutions themselves, which sounds like the That's just about as bad a scenario as... Well, it's particularly bad because, you know, our financial institutions are based on trust.
00:13:45.000I mean, you put your money in the bank and you trust that you can get your money out.
00:13:50.000If you didn't trust that, you would never put your money in the bank.
00:13:52.000So trust is absolutely essential for the functioning of our financial markets, functioning of our economy.
00:13:58.000And then there's another level of trust.
00:14:00.000You know, outsiders, those in other countries, have to have trust that the American economy is working well.
00:14:08.000They have to have trust that when the President says everything is going well, it is.
00:14:15.000This administration has really burned that trust.
00:14:19.000You know, the president said, oh, there's no problem, just a few too many houses have been built.
00:14:24.000Well, if that's the level of analysis that the leader of the United States is giving about what that nature of economic problems, No wonder everybody around the world is losing a certain amount of confidence.
00:14:35.000Well, in fact, in the past, if a president said all is good, the market would go up.
00:14:39.000Now, if McCain or even Obama or even Bush, anyone seen as a leader, says, you know, we're going to make it out of this, it's okay, markets go down, which shows almost a terminal Loss of trust.
00:14:50.000Now, going back to this asymmetric data, where people can't see around the tree to the other side to see what's on the other side of it, I mean, projecting forward, which you've really been good at, where do you see this going?
00:15:02.000How do you see this on the good side unfolding versus on the bad side unfolding?
00:15:07.000Well, there's always some uncertainty about what the government is going to do, and I have to say that the uncertainty has increased because there's clearly now an additional element of uncertainty with the government saying, we're going to pick winners, we're going to decide who we bail out and who not, and so if you have your money in the wrong firm, you won't get bailed out.
00:15:36.000Boy, is that scary to people outside, because they're now making not only an economic bet, they're making a political bet on whose friends are the Bush administration or the Fed, and what their judgment about whether there is systemic risk or not.
00:15:52.000Well, let me ask you, who are those friends?
00:15:53.000Is it Chase Manhattan, Citibank, Bank of America?
00:15:58.000What we do know, for instance, you know, question Why was it that we bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?
00:16:06.000One story that one hears is that there were a lot of investors abroad, some with close connections with one of the firms that the Secretary of Treasury was at before, and so there are the rumors that that may have played an important role in the decision to bail out Fannie Mae.
00:16:35.000You know, how would American taxpayers feel that if the reason they put billions and billions of their money at risk was to help some people in other countries, not to help with the American economy?
00:16:51.000Well, of course, they're always going to say, if we lose the confidence in the American economy, where will we be?
00:17:10.000Some stations will not carry this, but others will.
00:17:12.000And you can go to Infowars.com and pick it up as well.
00:17:15.000Here we go with Joseph Stiklitz, two-time Nobel Prize winner.
00:17:21.000Okay, this is so important, I want to continue.
00:17:24.000Now, I don't consider myself technical or to be some economic whiz kid, but I do read what you write, I do read what hundreds of others say, because this is so important, obviously.
00:17:36.000But let's go down from the level of knowledge, say, I have, or somebody who's somewhat informed, down to just very simple.
00:17:44.000I understand people listen to you, so you've got to be very technical and explain out why you're saying what you're saying.
00:17:50.000But just in layman's terms, I was asking, what's the good side, what's the bad side?
00:17:54.000I mean, what do you, from past research, from seeing what's going on now, I know so much of this is secret that you're saying, I can't see through a brick wall, but your best dead reckoning Where do you see us in 12 months, 18 months?
00:18:09.000I see, certainly over the next 12 months, the basic pattern that we've seen for the last 12 months continuing.
00:19:03.000It could be certainly in the dozens of banks.
00:19:06.000Do you think it's more rotten than you previously thought as we kick in more doors and see what's behind, you know, deeper levels of this?
00:19:15.000It is a little bit more rotten than I had originally thought.
00:19:21.000But, you know, one aspect of what has been going on is everybody realized that There were, what they called, trillions of dollars in open positions where people were betting against other people.
00:19:35.000And you had to ask the question, what were they doing?
00:19:40.000They said that they were trying to manage risk, but what risk were they trying to manage?
00:19:45.000And, you know, why do some people think that they were smarter than other people, that they knew that the exchange rate was going to go up, or the exchange rate was going to go down, interest rates go up, or the interest rate goes down?
00:19:57.000Now what you know is, We have a lot of people making such big bets.
00:20:04.000And you have a lot of volatility in the economy.
00:20:06.000There are going to be some big winners and there are going to be some big losers.
00:20:09.000And there's also, you can follow back who the consistent winners are and find out who's getting illegal inside information.
00:20:28.000So the point I want to make though is that Given the level of volatility, there are going to be more financial institutions that are going to be in deep trouble, and given the lack of transparency, there's going to be hard-to-get liquidity, and so I think we can see more problems ahead.
00:20:50.000What I am particularly worried about, though, is what I call the real economy.
00:20:54.000That's what I wanted to bring up when we come back to the full audience.
00:22:25.000I mean, basically, when the financial system starts getting weak...
00:22:29.000It is in a position to provide credit, to provide loans, to provide mortgages, and that means in turn that housing prices are going to fall further, businesses are going to contract, unemployment is going to grow, and it's a downward vicious cycle.
00:22:51.000We've emerged from every other downturn, so I don't want to be excessively pessimistic, but You have to be in fantasy land to say everything is fine.
00:23:03.000And even to say that we have turned the corner.
00:23:06.000I think we are still in the downward phase of this economic cycle.
00:23:47.000Not just a little excess investment, a little bit Too high interest rates, it's basically in the basic institutions of our economy, the financial institutions, and it's going to be a difficult road getting out, and it's particularly difficult because for the last five years, especially as the war has gone on, we've been a debt economy.
00:24:16.000Yeah, go back into that, because I interrupted you with a break earlier about your book, the facts you're laying out, the $3 trillion war.
00:24:30.000I mean, as I mentioned, this is the first war that we have put totally on the credit card.
00:24:36.000In fact, it's the first war since the Revolutionary War that we had to turn to foreigners to finance.
00:24:42.000Because 40% of our national debt is now being financed by foreigners.
00:24:47.000We had to borrow $850 billion in recent years per year from foreigners.
00:24:57.000Here we have the richest country in the world that can't live within its means.
00:25:01.000Households have been borrowing at an unprecedented level.
00:25:04.000We mentioned before that national savings rate, the household savings rate was the lowest since the Great Depression.
00:25:13.000And the federal government has been piling up debt because it's been borrowing not only to finance the war, but to finance its other operations.
00:25:24.000So with all that debt, and at the same time, the financial institutions which manage the debt, having such trouble, we are in trouble as an economy.
00:25:38.000And you're saying the biggest financial threat since the Great Depression may be even bigger.
00:25:43.000Is there some internal bank warfare going on?
00:25:46.000People using the lack of confidence, using connections to go and basically sabotage and overtake?
00:25:55.000which clearly that was an overreaction in my humble opinion, and then going and taking that over.
00:25:59.000I mean, is any of this also market forces inside Wall Street using this to their advantage?
00:26:05.000Well, part of the problem is, as I said before, that there is such a lack of transparency that it does give anybody who has something to that information a big advantage over others.
00:26:20.000But you mentioned that you thought $2 may have been too low for bearer stirrings, but the fact of the matter is...
00:26:29.000We, the taxpayers, do not know, yet months after the bailout, how much we are at risk for that bailout.
00:26:37.000That's another point, is we don't know what we're signing on to.
00:26:40.000We know it's trillions all together, but I mean, so it's a time bomb.
00:26:46.000We've just got about two minutes left with Joseph Stiglitz for folks listening exclusively at InfoWars.com and some of the stations that carry it, and then he'll be hopefully back with us in the future as things unfold, because he's one of the most important guests on this subject that we could hope to have, and we're very thankful to have him.
00:27:01.000The new book is The $3 Trillion War, The True Cross of the Iraq Conflict.
00:27:06.000Mr. Stiglitz, I'm going to let you go here in just about two minutes, but I wanted to ask you about some solutions.
00:27:15.000You know, you put forward quite a few ideas to keep this from happening.
00:27:21.000I mean, if you were the economic king for a day, if you were both the Fed Chairman and the Treasury Secretary, which kind of Paulson really is, he's telling the Fed to do right now, that's been reported.
00:27:32.000What would you do right now to stabilize this, to build confidence back in and to stop the implosion?
00:27:39.000Well, the first thing the economy needs, I go back to the real economy, and it needs a stimulus.
00:27:47.000But it needs a stimulus that really works.
00:27:49.000So we have to increase aid to states and local governments who are facing a big shortfall of revenue, and they're going to cut back expenditures, cut back investment, cut back basic programs for Americans.
00:28:06.000We need stronger unemployment insurance.
00:28:09.000With unemployment growing, we need to have some confidence that if you lose your job, no fault of your own, that you're a little bit better protected than we've been.
00:28:25.000More investment in our infrastructure.
00:28:27.000If anybody visits an airport in Asia, Europe, you realize what state our airports are in.
00:28:39.000New Orleans levees, the Minnesota bridges are all emblematic of what has happened to our infrastructure.
00:28:46.000So, I would take advantage of this particular time to try to stimulate the economy in ways to provide the basis of our longer-term economic growth.
00:29:01.000If our economy is growing, then we will be better able to manage some of this financial turmoil.
00:29:07.000But if our economy is going, as I believe it's going to go into a downward direction, it's going to be much more difficult to manage.
00:29:18.000And the problem is, the President is still talking about everything being fine in the economy.
00:29:40.000Well, it's clear that they've not taken into account, they didn't anticipate these problems.
00:29:48.000And they're not responding to the problems, partly because the problems are of their own making, and they want to hide their head in the sand and say, oh, everything's fine.
00:30:02.000Our recipe, tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, let markets run wild, is a recipe for long-term economic growth and stability.
00:30:16.000Mr. Stiglitz, we're going to let you go in about 60 seconds, but I want to come back to the full audience right now and plug your personal website.
00:31:32.000We can bring them here and tell you this.
00:31:34.000I mean, you heard Stiglitz say, worse than the Great Depression is what we're facing.
00:31:40.000And then you look at the on the ground situation.
00:31:47.000I keep repeating this because 90% of the American people live in urban areas, that means in cities and built-up suburbs.
00:31:56.000Of the 10% that live in what you can call rural areas, the last census, 10%, about half of them, or 5% of the public are somewhat self-sufficient, and most of them say they're self-sufficient when asked in the wider survey.
00:32:13.000They have a farming supplement that's part of the Larger census, they have a business census, what we all talked about on Constitutional, that is a side issue.
00:32:37.000The problem is, is they were not economically self-sufficient.
00:32:41.000They had mortgages on their farms, and so they were driven off their farms at shotgun point, at police gunpoint.
00:32:48.000And I don't want to be enemies with the police here.
00:32:51.000The point is, the police are going to be used to take your farms, your ranches, your... I mean, these are going to be your families and neighbors.
00:32:57.000This is where you're getting your food, cops.
00:33:11.000They will literally be doing all of this just to get their food.
00:33:16.000And remember, none of this had to happen.
00:33:18.000You just heard the former head of the Treasury policy, the chief advisor of Ronald Reagan on economics, Dr. Paul Greg Roberts tell you this.
00:33:27.000You just heard Stiglitz, two-time Nobel Prize winner for economics and peace on.
00:33:36.000So they'll tell you what's really going to happen.
00:33:37.000The hacks they put on CNBC and MSNBC and Fox Financial and all this.
00:33:43.000They'll tell you everything's great, everything's wonderful.
00:33:44.000What scares me is they're finally getting to the point of admitting everything's not wonderful.
00:33:50.000And I'm so busy that about 80% of the money I got in this world is just in a business account just to run this company for a few months.
00:33:58.000And I'm going, you know, I need to take that out of that account and put it in another account just to run this business.
00:34:04.000Should I even be on the air right now when Yahoo's talking about bank runs going on?
00:34:10.000And when the Seattle Times is talking about bank runs, and people are starting to advise bank runs, I realize that I've tried to be fiscally responsible and had enough money to run this place four, five, six months.
00:34:27.000Thank God for the money bomb we did, but I'm trying to expand to a TV show, building another studio right now with six cameras, which are all professional, just to put out better information, better package information for people.
00:34:41.000That's another reason I didn't go to New York.
00:34:43.000I can't fly me and my whole crew up to New York just to give a speech and hang out with a bunch of people.
00:34:49.000I'm trying to be frugal here with your money that you bought my videos and books and materials from.
00:35:09.000I mean, I want them now, because we barely got the servers we need right now, and there are going to be companies going under left and right.
00:35:25.000I'm just saying, folks, we are in an emergency situation.
00:35:28.000We're in the middle of a typhoon, and I'm the captain on my little ship, and I'm saying, batten down hatches, You know, get those sails down so they don't rip off.
00:35:55.000This isn't a... I just had a Nobel Prize winner on and I said, this is a bottom issue of us having to be raped, but this didn't originate from the economy.
00:36:09.000And that's why it's such a dog and pony show to say, oh, some people that lied on their mortgage forms, they caused that.
00:36:16.000No, the banks decided two years ago, a year and a half ago, to stop issuing unlimited fiat to the bottom.
00:36:28.000Because they'd already gotten us In 2007, at the start of the year, it was announced that in 2006 we had become a net debtor nation, individually, greater than even in the depths of the Great Depression.
00:36:39.000And at that point, they flipped the switch, they had gotten us in debt, they had bankrupted us, and now it was time for receivership.
00:36:46.000That's while banks, quote, make their money.
00:36:49.000They issue fake liquidity on a ballot sheet, or now a computer, but the real assets are the farms, the ranches, the companies, the intellectual properties, the technologies.
00:36:58.000The military companies, the media companies, the infrastructure, the commodities like gold and silver and timber and uranium and bauxite and nickel and all of these things, and oil, and all its derivatives.
00:37:15.000That's what they do during these implosions, and then they got everything they have in shipping and real assets.
00:37:20.000Now they're going to come in with a police escort, and enough they are going to take... I meant to ask Dick what Roberts was talking about, how they plan to take the pension funds.
00:37:29.000Bush changed the law in 2004, and Congress voted for it.
00:37:37.000You can go pull the vote up, but I remember it was the vast majority in Congress voted for it.
00:37:41.000To say your money in a pension fund, money they took from you out of your check is not yours and that companies and the government can take it.
00:37:50.000That's why Roberts just said they're planning to take your pension funds.
00:37:53.000That's why I've been screaming for four years they're going to take your pension funds.
00:37:56.000Newspapers have written a few articles about me and blogs going, he fear mongers and says they're going to take the pension funds with no evidence.
00:38:41.000Now, you just heard the father of Reaganomics, the former head of the Treasury, tell you that.
00:38:48.000Now, before they did this takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and we had guests on, Bob Chapman, Ted Anderson, Roberts and others, we talked about how they were going to drive down oil, they always do that anyways in the fall, then it starts going up again in the spring and summer, they were going to drive down gold, drive down silver, We laid all that out, that there would be some type of correction, and then it would race back up in the winter.
00:39:09.000Now, it was a bigger correction than I thought it would be, which is quite frankly a buying opportunity, so I'm going to try to take a meager amount of capital and put it in some gold.
00:39:20.000I believe it's hit bottom, and as you see them bailing out trillions of dollars, and talk of the Treasury going insolvent, and talk of Great Depression from Nobel Prize winners, and then the mainstream media is talking about bank runs, it is smart to have 5, 10, 20% in silver, in gold, in palladium, in platinum.
00:39:39.000And I believe that people should do this.
00:39:42.000I mean, I bought gold at 280 bucks an ounce, and I bought gold at a thousand dollars an ounce, and I feel good about every purchase, and I haven't sold any of it.
00:39:57.000And when the bottom finally falls out, This fantasy land is going to end, and gold now should be rated with inflation up close to 3,000 an ounce, not 22 or 2,500 like it was a year ago.
00:40:08.000Now, I don't know if it will ever go there.
00:40:12.000In this Alice in Wonderland, they may start claiming pigs can fly, and they may elect a horse president.
00:41:14.000And I really don't see a financial world where gold and silver And other commodities wouldn't go back up.
00:41:23.000A lot of other commodities are still ballooning.
00:41:26.000Because they're calling those bubbles, but they really aren't bubbles if it's based on a devalued dollar.
00:41:30.000And everything the Treasury is doing, everything the Federal Reserve is doing, is signaling the dollar is kaput.
00:41:36.000And so I guess it wouldn't fully plunge.
00:41:39.000They bolstered it with the threat against Russia and the muscle flexing.
00:41:42.000People said, okay, America isn't dead, but how long can that trick continue, Ted?
00:41:48.000Well, it's not going to continue very long because we've got institutions right now that are just so big that the United States government can't bail them out without printing just buckets and buckets and buckets full of money.
00:41:59.000I mean, you watch what's going on out there.
00:42:00.000That Federal Reserve System with that Open Market Committee is dumping cash into the Treasury like there's no tomorrow.
00:42:06.000And they're just, you know, every time, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and now we've got Lehman Brothers.
00:42:13.000We're now, what, a year and a half into this?
00:42:38.000The Bilderberg meeting, and we also had infiltrators into the Istanbul two years ago, and then obviously got a lot of intel out of Virginia, Chantilly outside D.C.
00:42:49.000And those bastards said three years ago, they said, plus, god hardly that's three years ago, plus, they said, we're going to implode the housing market and start a domino effect to consolidate.
00:43:01.000So there's no doubt they engineered this, and I want the people to know that, Ted.
00:43:06.000Well, right now, liquidity is everything.
00:43:08.000Anybody that has something that's a value that's not tied to the U.S.
00:43:11.000currency, they're going to have something.
00:43:13.000But anybody that has their money in the bank, they have it in the stock market, they have it in all these different paper-type investments, they're going to get wiped out.
00:43:20.000And that's going to put people in the position where they have to hand over their homes, and hand over all these other real assets like you were talking about.
00:43:28.000And they didn't triple Johnny Law the last 20 or 15 years for nothing.
00:43:32.000They didn't triple the cops for nothing.
00:43:46.000I've got people that are crying to me that they leveraged themselves long in the marketplace when silver and gold was going up, and now they've got margin calls.
00:44:03.000You can see the thing melting around you.
00:44:05.000Yeah, you know in reality, the dollar is birdcage liner and rest in peace.
00:44:10.000They may re-dollarize or do something new or tie it to carbon taxes, but regardless, I mean, for the next decade or so, and that's what every major economist is saying, that dollar is going downhill.
00:44:37.000It is most definitely a major buying opportunity, and right now, the walking Liberty Halves We're looking at those at $10 a piece right now.
00:45:08.000Those ones are the ones that are up around $215, $220.
00:45:11.000I mean, the silver, without a question, is the one that take the most hit on the downside, and it'll also be the one that rebounds the fastest.
00:45:20.000And that Walking Liberty half, I couldn't even get them.
00:46:53.000They're washing the people with the puts.
00:46:54.000The people that are short in the marketplace, they're forcing them out.
00:46:57.000And it throws some gyration into the marketplace, but that doesn't affect the physical market.
00:47:02.000People that are actually trying to buy this stuff and take possession are having a real hard time accumulating it because there's not anything available.
00:47:08.000That's the crazy part about this whole thing.
00:47:11.000People that were holding all the economy so bad, they're now having to cash it in, too.
00:47:15.000Yeah, but right now Alex, there is not a lot of supply.
00:47:18.000I try, I mean look at Kitco's front page, look at everywhere, just type in... Well look at this, gold falls as dollar strengthens, but then yesterday the dollar was dropping.
00:47:27.000So it's that same thing we saw for a year going into the Great Depression where it's just like a seesaw or a roller coaster.
00:47:34.000Well, if anybody has any bit of brains in their head, they're going to know that they have to have something.
00:47:38.000They're going to have to have their food, they're going to have to have their guns, and they certainly need their gold.
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00:54:08.000Best Buy, one of the most successful retailers out there in trouble.
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00:56:33.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
00:56:40.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:57:36.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:57:42.000Well, for the next 30 minutes of the show, we're joined by Cindy to check in with us once a month or so with her historic campaign against the treacherous Nancy Pelosi.
00:57:53.000It is treacherous to claim that she was with anti-war, pro-peace people, folks that are against murder.
00:58:00.000It's treacherous to then get into power and enthusiastically actually expand the war and cheerlead for it.
00:58:09.000And you've got 90 plus percent in polls in the San Francisco Bay Area of the district she's in against the war.
00:58:58.000Well, it's good to have you here with us.
00:59:01.000There's so much to talk about, but how about instead of me throwing questions at you, talk about what you think is most important right now.
00:59:08.000Well, these past days I've been really sorry that I didn't Major and economic.
00:59:17.000So I've been trying to really focus on that and try to get a handle on what's happening.
00:59:25.000And I know what the government is doing is not the best correction for what's happening with our economy collapsing.
00:59:34.000And I think that, you know, the major issue around the whole economy is And people don't acknowledge this.
00:59:42.000You don't see anybody in mainstream America on the news or are candidates for president in the two major parties, which I call the monopoly now.
00:59:54.000I used to call it a duopoly, but why even pretend that it's, you know, there's any difference in it?
01:00:01.000But they don't talk about how our military economy is collapsing, this country, like it collapsed All other empires before it, and they're not talking about decreasing military spending, or bringing our troops home from Iraq or Afghanistan, or closing our bases around the world, which are just basic imperialism.
01:00:28.000They're talking about bailouts, and stimulus, and all these Keynesian things that that haven't worked for a long time because that they're designed to make the rich richer and disappear our middle class.
01:01:16.000And I just don't understand how people think that continuing failed policies is going to make a correction in the economy.
01:01:26.000And instead of blaming Republicans, or instead of blaming George Bush or whoever, You know, we can go all the way back to the Clinton administration for a majority of what's happening today, but we really need to get down to business and we don't need false hope or false change.
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01:04:25.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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01:05:43.000Say he didn't want foreign entanglements like Clinton had done.
01:05:46.000but then went forward, but Pelosi saying, send me there, I'll end the war.
01:05:49.000Make me the Speaker of the House, and we know what she did.
01:05:52.000So we're talking about real change, not fake change, and we saw that in a press conference last week with Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and others.
01:06:03.000Well, you know, I was in Norway last week when they did that press conference, and I think that it's really important to support third-party or independent candidates.
01:06:14.000I could really just walk into this office here in San Francisco if I would just endorse Barack Obama, but I'm not going to sell out my principles, And I'm not going to sell out humanity to endorse somebody who I don't think will be good for the country or good for the world or really have any policies that differ from McPalin or the Bush administration.
01:06:38.000So I think that it was very important.
01:07:03.000If you endorse Barack Obama, the party, I guess, locally has let you know that they might even let you take Pelosi's seat or not try to block you, then it would be a shoe-in because you're very, very popular.
01:07:17.000especially with people in the San Francisco area, but all across the country.
01:07:20.000but But you can't support Obama, because then you'd be compromised.
01:07:24.000He is supporting and expanding the war, continuing the conflict.
01:07:29.000Well, you know, not only that, he is just A very conservative Democrat, and there's not very many things that he differs with on McCain.
01:07:39.000And yes, I have had pressure from even people on my own staff to come out and endorse Obama.
01:07:48.000I don't pander to people, and I don't change what I know is right in my heart to get votes, or to get money, or to go forward.
01:07:59.000If win or lose on November 4th, I'm going to win or lose with my integrity intact.
01:08:04.000And then we can, you know, just like Ron Paul, I don't agree with everything he says, but you know, he is a man of integrity and principle, and he won't sell out his principles for votes for money.
01:08:17.000And how successful was he in raising money and raising awareness over the primary season?
01:08:23.000So I think that People recognize and they want leadership.
01:08:27.000They want leadership with integrity and they want leadership with courage.
01:08:31.000Well, I want to bring up a tough subject.
01:08:34.000I was out in the countryside over the weekend visiting family and uh... some family was visiting and they were uh... some families visiting family that i was visiting were sitting around the dinner table and and one of them was aware that i like you and interviewed you and it's a you know military family most of them are in the military and he said well that she and lady you know she's got a right to say what she wants but what she did is make her son to death count for nothing
01:09:05.000She's taken away the sacrifice he made and I just said no.
01:09:09.000I don't want to speak for her but I would imagine that she would say that I'm trying to stop other people's sons and daughters from needlessly being killed and instead of him dying for a lie, dying in a fraud, I am making his memory stand out as a testament to the crimes that have been committed so that his life does mean something and so that he didn't die
01:09:35.000For a lie that, by the way, he didn't support and wrote to you in letters.
01:09:45.000You know, George Bush is the one who has abused our military and sent people over to die for lies, to kill innocent people for lies, to destroy a country for lies, or to be wounded for lies and deception.
01:10:00.000And, you know, it's not a reflection on Casey or the military is the reflection on the leadership that have done this.
01:10:09.000And I believe that Casey did die for nothing.
01:10:12.000You know, he died, he was killed by an Iraqi insurgent who wanted Casey out of his country.
01:10:18.000And I don't blame that Iraqi insurgent, I blame the system who sent Casey and his comrades to Iraq for no reason except for profit and imperial greed.
01:10:30.000So, you know, you answered it absolutely correct, and the reason I fight so hard is to make Casey's death count for something positive, but also for, you know, our children and grandchildren, so they won't have to go through this.
01:10:43.000Now, I'll be damned if I let the neocon elite, which Nancy Pelosi is part of that, send our country, or neoliberal, I think her and Obama's views would be more like neoliberal, allow them to take our country to a path of total destruction.
01:11:15.000How do we ever get to the point where you're not supposed to question the government, you're not supposed to be involved, and we all know the greatest expression of patriotism is to engage in dissent.
01:11:40.000Well, it's an absolute genocide, and the America that they love is an America that tortures people, imprisons people without, you know, habeas corpus, which has been a basic right for centuries.
01:11:53.000This is a country that buys on people without warrant.
01:11:57.000This is a country that is impoverishing people to increase the wealth in the bottom line of the one percent of this country and that you know if this is the country that they love then their values are seriously messed up well it certainly is in fact i mean it's so asinine the lie is so big it's hard to even articulate it i'm
01:12:24.000I mean, to be butchering and systematically dismantling the entire Bill of Rights, the Constitution, everything good about this nation, everything that made us great, not that we've ever been perfect, but better than most, and then to claim that they're doing it for America.
01:12:38.000This is just more dirt if we don't have our morals.
01:12:41.000And we've had our name destroyed worldwide and then we're trying to salvage some of America and then they tell us we hate America because we love freedom and liberty and not attacking innocent countries and not killing a million two hundred thousand Iraqis in the last six years and Not torturing children and raping and the White House memos about torturing children.
01:13:05.000They're saying we're bad because we're against that.
01:13:10.000Well, I think it's because we recognize that humanity and love for humanity aren't just contained within the borders of the United States.
01:13:21.000People in Iraq and Afghanistan and wherever, they deserve and they want security.
01:13:27.000And peace and prosperity as much as Americans want for their children.
01:13:31.000And so that somehow makes us anti-American because we're pro-humanity.
01:13:36.000But the real true values of this country are the values that we are fighting for to not disappear, not be forgotten, not be shoved down the memory hole of this neo-con ruling elite.
01:13:51.000And as long as we're alive, that's not going to happen.
01:13:57.000And we appreciate your show and other shows that are independent from the mainstream because you know the mainstream media and the corporate media here are really trying to shut us out, to not allow us to present our vision because our vision is so alternative to what they want.
01:14:16.000Exactly, that brings me to another issue and I want to plug the campaign and the different ways folks can get involved but the inventor of the internet Over in England and others are calling for basically restricting it, certifying websites, internet to governments, the newspapers are imploding, TV ratings are plunging, alternative media is surging.
01:14:40.000And the mainstream has been discredited and they're angry at us, the alternative.
01:14:45.000They discredited themselves and so they're not just trying to shut you out of mainstream television and print, they're also trying to shut down and restrict the web.
01:14:54.000And that's really common in other countries because I travel extensively and you have to register websites and you have to know that if you're on the internet that there are some sites that they're going to block.
01:15:35.000Nancy Pelosi can be on all the shows everywhere, you know, promoting her book or promoting her corporate malignant vision for America, but we can't demand equal time, and that's just something That they've been working on very hard for the past few decades.
01:15:56.000But then that's the other problem is the Fairness Doctrine, and I would be for it if they're going to have Nancy Pelosi on, you're a real candidate against her, you should be on those shows.
01:16:04.000But the point is they would then use that to shut me down and say, well, since Pelosi doesn't want to come on your show, you just can't talk bad about Pelosi.
01:16:12.000You know, kind of like the quote campaign finance reform that just doubled the amount corporations can give but restrict citizens.
01:16:27.000Well, that's why it's so important for people to support us financially.
01:16:31.000If you can't come out to San Francisco to help, we are of course having an influx of people from all over the country here coming to help us.
01:16:39.000Just like Camp Casey, people came from everywhere to help.
01:16:42.000Except for San Francisco is much nicer than Crawford, Texas.
01:16:45.000So, you know, I invite everybody to come out.
01:16:48.000But if you can support us financially, anything, $5, $10, $25, up to the maximum donation of $2,300, that helps us get our message out.
01:16:57.000All we need to be able to do is buy airtime on TV, buy airtime on the radio, get billboards, get my face up on buses, spread our message to San Francisco.
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01:17:49.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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01:22:45.000Make it fair and just have it say, Nancy Pelosi basically said she wants to continue the war, and Cindy Sheehan says that she wants to end the war and have a few questions like that.
01:23:01.000And then pull, say, 2,000 San Franciscans.
01:23:44.000Well, we definitely will check into that, because that is something that we want to do, and we agree with you.
01:23:49.000When a poll comes out, and there have been some spot polls done here that haven't been what they call a sampling, a good sampling.
01:24:00.000I have overwhelmingly beaten Nancy Pelosi in those polls, so I think that that, like you said, would garner a lot of media attention, a lot of donations.
01:24:11.000Well, see, I didn't know you'd already been beating her in spot polls, which is common sense.
01:24:15.000You need to have those polls out ahead in case they cheat you.
01:24:18.000That'll be ammo in the recount or showing the machines are fraudulent to say, look, I won in this poll.
01:24:24.000I mean, your consultant may be getting sold, and I'm not saying they're not a great consultant, I don't know who they are, your consultant may be getting sold on larger, bigger packages, they try to sell you, but I'd call up Angus and Reed, I'd call up Mason Dixon, I'd call up Zogby, I'd spend five grand apiece, I'd get three different polls, but I would not let them insert their own questions.
01:24:47.000They are out of control, but make it fair so everybody can read the questions.
01:24:51.000When you put the press release out, Nancy Pelosi said that she went in the Warb and then have a quote.
01:25:38.000Even though her stamp on the issues of war, accountability, the environment, labor, everything that these people hold dear are, you know, exactly opposite of what they believe, that they're endorsing her because it is just a big Democratic machine town.
01:25:55.000So we have to overcome that, and it has to be more issues-based.
01:25:59.000And again, you have that ruling order where you've got 90 plus percent against the war, everybody loves you in San Francisco, but the machine loves the power.
01:26:08.000Right, and it just, you know, the machine just exists to perpetuate itself.
01:26:12.000And they'll run over anybody who gets in its way, even if it's somebody that does have integrity and courage, and who is right on all the issues that San Francisco cares about.
01:26:23.000And Nancy Pelosi is wrong on all of those issues.
01:26:25.000So that's what we have to have the money to be able to get out to the 8th District.
01:26:31.000But like I said, there's just people pouring in from all over to help us.
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01:31:13.000We have Cindy Sheehan back on with us.
01:31:21.000Folks, you can call us on our local line.
01:31:25.000She'll be with us about 10-15 more minutes this segment for questions about the campaign, about the two parties, about how once you get off their skin color or their sexual gender, There's really no separation.
01:31:37.000It's just different flavors of the same corporate lies.
01:31:40.000888-201-2244 is the number here in my studio.
01:32:18.000If we don't stand up, we don't build movements, and the two parties have a 9% approval rating, they're being discredited.
01:32:26.000This is an important process, and that's why I just thank you for what you've done standing up to these people just in a dogged fashion.
01:32:34.000So, what's the different basket of tactics and things listeners can do to help you?
01:32:40.000Well, we're downloading the voter rolls onto Google Docs.
01:32:46.000They'll be able to go into our website and pull out a list of maybe ten voters in San Francisco that they can phone bank or they can send messages to.
01:32:58.000Things like that that aren't very expensive that people from around the country can do.
01:33:01.000We will be here in San Francisco doing a lot of phone banking.
01:33:08.000A lot of door-to-door contact with voters, and like I said, anybody can go on our website, cindyforcongress.org, cindyforcongress.org, and just donate anything that you can.
01:33:23.000Our campaign is supported by total grassroots donations.
01:33:28.000We haven't received or taken one PAC contribution.
01:33:35.000One corporate contribution, and we've raised over $400,000 so far.
01:33:40.000And if we could just have $100,000 more dollars between now and November 4th, we would really be able to blanket this city with our message.
01:33:50.000Well, I would also keep a little bit back for lawyers and enforcers.
01:34:29.000And this election, you know, won't be over one way or the other on November 4th, like you said, where if it turns out that, you know, somehow Nancy Pelosi got more votes than us, we will challenge every vote.
01:34:42.000We will challenge that we have a hotline for people to call if there's any kind of voter suppression or voter fraud or any kind of hanky-panky.
01:34:50.000I have seen myself on the voter rolls at the Department of Elections How they scrub people off the voter rolls.
01:34:58.000So we also have to do a lot of voter registration and a lot of education about the right to vote and the right to have your vote counted.
01:35:20.000It'll be torture for her up in Congress.
01:35:22.000But to send this great patriot up there who will ring the alarm bells and ask the serious questions.
01:35:28.000And Cindy, I know you're going to be busy, but election day and the day after, whatever happens, please tell your folks to put you in for this show so that we can have that, you know, as that breaks, whatever's happened.
01:36:39.000And when we educate people and are able to talk to them, they change their minds and they say that they're going to vote for me.
01:36:46.000So the word on the street is very positive.
01:36:48.000And of course, like I said, we're battling, we're battling this almost, you know, undefeatable machine here in San Francisco.
01:36:59.000But it's not like I am just Sarah Smith running against You know, Joe Jones in Montana.
01:37:06.000This is Cindy Sheehan running against Nancy Pelosi.
01:37:10.000This is Cindy Sheehan, you know, the voice of the people, running against, you know, the Speaker of the House.
01:37:16.000And I think that this will fundamentally put a wound in the system.
01:37:22.000And everybody in Congress, when we beat Nancy Pelosi, when we beat her, not me, when we beat her, everybody in Congress is going to say, whoa, our jobs are now performance-based.
01:37:33.000And we're going to have to be responsive to our constituents, not our corporate lobbyists.
01:37:38.000Well, it's a true David vs. Goliath scenario, and it shows how controlled the corporate media is, and the good job they're doing, keeping the people uninformed, that a lot of people in San Francisco wouldn't know that Pelosi was supporting the war in her statements, in her votes, in her actions.
01:37:57.000But you're right, as soon as the facts are presented, you even get those that weren't supporting you.
01:38:03.000It's all a fight here to get the word out.
01:38:04.000Give us the phone number so people can call and donate.
01:38:45.000It's a win-win situation for the people.
01:38:48.000Well, there's some people on YouTube that edit together my show to make it sound like I'm being incongruent, or engaging in doublespeak.
01:38:55.000You know, I talk about election fraud, I talk about rigged voting machines, and then I say, go out and vote, go out and be involved, go out and poll watch.
01:39:04.000I'm saying, don't let them take our process, and don't go quietly into the night, and go out there everywhere you can and expose this.
01:39:10.000We've sent a bunch of people to prison.
01:39:13.000The American people in like seven, eight years, I've seen the polls, have gone from maybe 10% knowing there's election fraud to over 90% in national polls.
01:40:32.000This is not, maybe not pertinent to your particular race, but it was something that I noticed about the Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, when they were running together, it was about six or eight months ago.
01:40:49.000Yeah, when they took that drink, when they were all taking the drink, Hillary was like, whew, yeah, is this all I got to do to be president?
01:41:00.000And Barack Obama was like, if you look at the film footage, I mean, I'm sure you guys are a lot smarter than I can ever be.
01:41:25.000Hiding under... Isn't there something in the Koran about... Yeah, when you're in amongst the quote enemies, keep yourself at low... There you go.
01:41:38.000He is bought and paid for by powerful corporate interest.
01:41:41.000The president is a puppet now under the COG system to say, you know, to get into him being a Muslim, to get into him not being a Muslim, to get into him this or that.
01:42:13.000It doesn't matter if Barack Obama is a Muslim or not.
01:42:16.000And if he is, he sure does a good job of hiding it or being in the closet, because he sure has been very vocal in support of Israel and taking down Muslim countries for Israel.
01:42:29.000You know, I think that even if he was a Muslim, it wouldn't have, you know, it wouldn't make that much difference.
01:42:35.000It's not supposed to make a difference.
01:42:37.000You know, I wish that we didn't hear about religion and politics, that we're not voting for the Pope of America, we're voting for the President of America.
01:42:46.000And it doesn't really matter to me, and it shouldn't matter to other people, what religion anybody is.
01:42:56.000They just use that as a Political football.
01:43:00.000It's just a wedge issue, and Palin was totally just to pander to the religious right in this country, who don't, you know, the Jesus that I grew up with.
01:43:20.000Well, look, I mean, it's a fraud as well.
01:43:23.000I mean, this should insult Christian conservatives.
01:43:26.000You know, the fact is McCain isn't for the issues they want, and so all they're doing here Is, as you said, just using her to add some novelty.
01:44:07.000Cindy, I just wanted to, in fact, I've been battling something called chemtrails for many, many, many, many years.
01:44:15.000I've been on all radio shows, haven't been on Alex's yet, but he knows a lot about them.
01:44:20.000And the thing with the chemtrails in the Bay Area in California, Transcends all the politicking.
01:44:26.000Yeah, remember when Arnold wanted to spray the pesticides?
01:44:29.000Yeah, the brown apple moth butterfly, that is an isocyanate, extremely toxic, but...
01:44:33.000Pelosi, in fact, and all the other people out there that, in fact, are supposed to be our elected officials, ignore this.
01:44:39.000This particular issue transcends all of it.
01:44:42.000Yeah, what he's bringing up is what Kucinich wrote about in a bill, I think, six years ago, the declassified weather modification and other classified programs.
01:44:51.000What would you do in Congress to look into that, Cindy?
01:47:54.000And I'm going to have open phones throughout the show, more of the economic news, a bunch of big military developments too, between Israel and Iran, the U.S.
01:48:04.000We're going to cover all that and then get back into your calls at 888-201-2244. 888-201-2244.
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01:49:42.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
01:49:49.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:49:52.000- In Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers' ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
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01:52:38.000Cheney goes to Ukraine and says, stick behind us, don't worry about the Russians and their government falls apart.
01:52:44.000Basically a pro-Russian group is pretty close to taking it over.
01:52:49.000So the elite is not omnipresent, they're not all-powerful.
01:52:52.000They're trying to be with this casual society, technological straitjacket, technological dehumanization grid that they're putting into place.
01:53:21.000Teach the pleasure of gay sex to children as young as five, say researchers.
01:53:26.000How about you don't teach anything about sex to children because perverts always want to do this as an excuse to get involved with your children.
01:53:37.000It's about teaching children that having children is bad, that sex is somehow bad, that marriage is stupid, that abstinence is stupid, so they can corrupt them.
01:53:48.000I mean, they want to teach 2nd, 3rd, 4th graders about things that I didn't know about until I was 12 or 13, and then that destroys their innocence and sexualizes them.
01:53:56.000They've got studies in Europe and the U.S.
01:53:59.000where they put up anti-smoking billboards, and smoking gets worse.
01:54:03.000People think it's rebellious, they want to do it.
01:54:37.000They have a death education class in big schools, and usually some girls every year in every school, they go home and kill themselves.
01:54:44.000Again... And then it says here, teach the children how great, quote, gay sex is, and how a queer lifestyle, that's a term they use.
01:54:54.000They've taken that derogatory term and made it a good one.
01:54:58.000How about you keep your hands off the kids, perverts?
01:55:00.000So I'm going to cover that after I cover the foreign war news.
01:55:04.000Before I end this hour, I've done three hours now without a single plug for the 19 films I've directed and produced, and the one film I've produced, I've made 20 films total.
01:55:20.000It covers how the Continuity of Shadow Government carried out the attacks, how the different intelligence agencies were tied in, how the hijackers were just government patsies.
01:55:34.000And I hope you will go to InfoWars.com and for your library, your collection, but most importantly, so you can make copies of them and give them to people and show them to folks.
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01:58:06.000We better give up all our rights or little Al Qaeda gremlins will get us, but they're everywhere.
01:58:11.000I'm going to get into a bunch of news right now and then your phone calls.
01:58:16.000But I didn't really properly plug at the end of that last hour my films.
01:58:23.000I mean, Truth Rising really is a great video.
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02:00:14.000Okay, let's look on the foreign front here.
02:01:02.000Ukraine's ruling pro-western coalition, that's the new fad, is to have a 25-year-old blonde as your Prime Minister.
02:01:12.000Ukraine's ruling pro-western coalition has officially collapsed.
02:01:17.000The Speaker of the Ukrainian Parliament says President Viktor Yushchenko has been involved in a long-running dispute with Prime Minister Yulia Taimo Yashchenko.
02:01:32.000She's an attractive lady that dresses like an elf.
02:01:37.000The President's R-Ukraine bloc left the coalition earlier this month.
02:01:43.000Parliament now has 30 days to try to form a new ruling coalition.
02:01:49.000If those efforts fail, Mr. Yashchenko can dissolve Parliament and call a snap election.
02:01:56.000The R-Ukraine party pulled out of the coalition on September 3rd after the bloc sided with the pro-Moscow opposition party of regions to pass several laws that Mr... Well, we'll come back and cover all this.
02:02:42.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
02:02:49.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
02:02:53.000...Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
02:04:34.000I was shocked when I discovered I could be inhaling these additives that can lead to coughing, wheezing, and shortness of breath, headaches, nausea, irritation of the skin, and mucous membranes.
02:06:22.000I said I'd do that, so let me just do that.
02:06:28.000So, Dick Cheney, after basically arming and ordering through Israel the sneak attack of a historically Russian enclave, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, on 888, forty days ago or so,
02:06:45.000Travels around to Poland, to Ukraine, to the Czech Republic, to a bunch of other countries ringing Russia, former possessions of the brutal Soviet regime, and the governments all start basically falling apart, or on the edge of falling apart.
02:07:03.000So this is not looking too good for the United States.
02:07:06.000This is what hubris and arrogance and really a kind of self-destructive attitude is generating Ukraine's ruling pro-western coalition has officially collapsed.
02:07:15.000The Speaker of the Ukraine Parliament says, we read part of that, I officially declare the coalition of democratic forces in Ukraine's parliament dissolved.
02:07:25.000Parliament speaker announced on Tuesday, this has been long expected, but for me it's extremely sad, he told the chamber, I would not call this a political apocalypse, though it is true that it is another change of democracy, I hope we can overcome it.
02:07:41.000Now remember, Yushchenko's government, the most powerful guy in parliament, the president has wanted to kick the Russians out of their lease of Ukrainian Black Sea port.
02:07:56.000They've wanted to saber-rattle, move weapons systems into Ukraine, which they've done, and it's to menace Russia, and it is causing a major rift, because the Ukraine's trading with Russia more than anybody.
02:08:12.000And then after that they're trading with the European Union in Europe, and so they don't want this to happen, and so by the United States pressing this, or the people that run the United States, it's endangering our relationship with all of Eastern Europe.
02:08:28.000But hey, our currency's going bankrupt, all the big banks are going under basically, we're on the tab to pay for it all, and I guess this is people's idea of prosperity and happiness.
02:08:40.000Meanwhile our government gave Pakistan nukes and they've had Pakistani forces now are shooting at US helicopters.
02:08:53.000The attacks on our troops are now killing more people in Afghanistan than they are in Iraq.
02:08:59.000The killing has really expanded there.
02:09:02.000All of this is just swarming around and You can say what you want about it, but out of this global crisis we see the push for world government.
02:09:13.000Oh, we had a World War I, we need a League of Nations.
02:09:16.000Oh, we had a World War II, we need a UN.
02:09:19.000We need a global government to stop all of it, and that's what's being called for by all the saviors out there.
02:09:26.000The people criticizing the neocons and the neolibs, their bosses, are, oh, this is just terrible, we need to have a more responsive international order to the people and help the poor.
02:09:36.000But that's just the more kindler, gentler New World Order stratagem.
02:09:42.000In other news, New York Sun has this report that I'm showing folks on PrisonPlanet.tv.
02:09:54.000New book details mishaps that have likely delayed Iran's efforts to go nuclear.
02:10:02.000Israel and America are intensifying a clandestine war on Iran that has run hot and cold since the Islamic Revolution in 1979, but has grown more urgent as Iran races to obtain an atomic bomb.
02:10:38.000But the United States is mad that Iran isn't Getting one, really.
02:10:45.000It's just the public can't find Iran on a map, but they think that it needs to be attacked.
02:10:56.000Now see how that headline says, races to obtain an atomic bomb.
02:11:00.000But the New York Sun knows that's a lie, so then they, in the next paragraph, knowing that most people won't literally understand what that meant, that by the next paragraph they say, that's the claim.
02:11:13.000But it's sold as a fact, kind of like scores of AP and Reuters headlines, and New York Post headlines, and CNN and Fox headlines.
02:12:27.000Well, this is no new news from this Israeli or from the New York Sun.
02:12:31.000Cy Hirsch reported four years ago, about a year after we reported from our sources, and others reported, that U.S.
02:12:40.000Special Forces backing three separate Sunni groups, one of them headed up by the number three in Al-Qaeda, for the U.S.
02:12:50.000have been running pinprick terror attacks police station schools uh... nuclear scientists killing them black ops and and and and now bombing mosque blowing up dams bombing dams and then bush comes out middle last year i guess over a year ago now man times flying on the white house dot gov and says yes it's true We have special forces working with and enlisted the groups in Iran.
02:13:36.000What you want to believe is mindless little fake conservatives that suck your thumbs and think open borders and gun control is conservatives.
02:14:06.000While President Bush and other Western leaders have warned of the seriousness of the threat that Iran may obtain a nuclear weapon, Little reporting his service in the West and the efforts in the shadows to stop the Iranians.
02:14:17.000So first they say they're trying to get a bomb, then, oh, it's just a claim, and then, oh, little has been said about how we're trying to stop them from getting the bomb.
02:14:27.000So now they reintroduce it as fact again.
02:14:32.000While President Bush and other Western leaders have warned of the seriousness of the threat that Iran may obtain a nuclear weapon, little reporting has surfaced in the West on the efforts in the shadows to stop the Iranians.
02:14:42.000Mr. Bergman himself has had to skate a close line in this area, in part because of military censorship in Israel, where some of the reporting has been withheld from publication pending rulings by the Israeli Supreme Court.
02:14:54.000Nonetheless, the Israeli journalist compiles a picture that suggests that the West has some has had some success in the war to stop the Iranian bomb.
02:15:04.000Mr. Bergman reports, for example, that in January 2007, Iran determined that some of its nuclear suppliers in Europe were fronts for Western intelligence agencies, specifically Britain's MI6.
02:15:18.000And Mr. Bergman writes that between February 06 and March 07, at least three planes belonging to the Revolutionary Guards crashed in Iran.
02:15:25.000And Iran keeps saying, our planes are blowing up.
02:15:29.000While carrying personnel connected with the security of the nuclear project.
02:15:35.000Now again, it's not a nuclear program.
02:15:37.000That's admitted, but they're still killing these people.
02:15:39.000And that's... And Iran can't fight back in any way.
02:15:42.000In fact, they've said if Iran even shoots one bullet back if they're attacked by the U.S.
02:15:46.000and Israel, that will be called terrorism.
02:15:49.000And they will go on the news and say, Al Qaeda, for no reason, has snuck attack us.
02:15:53.000It won't matter if we've just seen three days of bombings of Iran.
02:16:38.000And Mr. Bergen writes, between February of 2006 and March of 2007, at least three planes belonging to Revolutionary Guard crashed in Iran.
02:16:45.000The secret effort appears not to be limited to modifying equipment.
02:16:48.000On January 18th, 2007, an Iranian expert on electromagnetics, who worked in an enrichment facility, died in his apartment.
02:16:56.000The author quotes the deputy director of the Islamic Atomic Energy Commission, Eli Levati, as saying in a closed forum that operations against Iran gained time for us and have doubtless caused significant delays in the project.
02:17:10.000So this is just them acting like they've had a covert victory against a program that doesn't exist.
02:17:15.000Because they got their butt kicked in Lebanon and other places.
02:17:21.000Let's just skip this break and I'm going to finish up with this news and then I'm going to go ahead and start going to the calls because I'll never get to Jeff, Phil, Misty, Mark, Kitty, Gilbert, Dave, Vinny, Ryan, Buck, Tom and others if I don't start going to your calls.
02:17:39.000You just read this and it's just complete crap.
02:17:44.000And it goes on to say they're killing Iranian terrorists, and that's what these doctors that work in the plants are, they're terrorists.
02:19:07.000What's really happening is I'm losing all composure because I'm on the air so much and I'm on the air behind the scenes that everyone is seeing everything now.
02:19:16.000Total transparency is the new radio show here.
02:19:19.000Kind of the first time this has been done, I think.
02:19:59.000Skinner tortured his son to death over several years in a small box and is hailed for it.
02:20:05.000And know that you've got to get evil people to run a criminal government.
02:20:12.000And so a lot of their frontline people and a lot of their technocrats and even high-level people are part of pedophile guilds.
02:20:21.000And so what they're doing is they're legitimizing that parents can't talk to their children, can't dry their children off in England with a towel without being government registered to touch their child.
02:20:32.000So see, they make everybody else a pedophile for no reason.
02:20:34.000And then they teach the children in the U.S.
02:20:36.000and England how to not just have gay sex when they're six, seven years old, but how to do things like inserting giant, dangerous implements in themselves.
02:20:51.000And I can't even... I mean, there's recordings of what, in Massachusetts, they teach elementary school students that I actually played on air about ten years ago and a few affiliates dropped us.
02:21:00.000I mean, it was small children brought to a college dormitory and put in beds.
02:21:07.000And then the school taught them how to have sex with each other.
02:21:11.000Whether it's heterosexual, homosexual, whatever, it shouldn't be going on and it's wrong.
02:21:15.000But I have to say, it is the, quote, gays that are pushing homosexual sex.
02:21:21.000And so it seems that because that's a protected group, they're allowed to engage in pedophilia.
02:21:36.000my on screen i'm holding an article that reads teach the pleasure of gay sex to children as young as five say researchers
02:21:54.000Yes, we are shifting from Israeli, U.S., British, and Al-Qaeda, Wahhabis, killing and murdering Iranian police, killing doctors, nuclear experts, blowing things up, and our government brags about it in newspapers.
02:22:12.000And now we've shifted gears into This, and this is going on in the U.S., this is going on in England, I covered this a decade ago, and I can't even really read this on air, even though it's out of a major newspaper.
02:22:26.000It's homophobic to say you shouldn't teach children as young as five that it's wonderful to have gay sex.
02:22:34.000Now, if you teach them heterosexual sex, that's pedophilia, but because they're a protected group, they do teach this.
02:22:44.000And just God help us, just God help us.
02:22:47.000Children as young as five should be taught to understand the pleasures of gay sex according to leaders of a taxpayer-funded education project and it goes in to say that millions of dollars, six hundred thousand pounds just in one program is being taught in fourteen primary schools.
02:23:02.000The parents are told it's part of a stop bullying and prejudice aimed at homosexuals and then in it five-year-olds that have never even heard of sex, who are totally innocent, have their minds ruined.
02:23:12.000And again I mentioned earlier The Feds in this country, in England, started suicide education in 1990, and then every school that did it saw suicide start.
02:23:22.000And they teach little girls, so you don't do this, we'll show you how you strangle yourself, or how you eat three bottles of Tylenol.
02:23:30.000Did you know girls kill themselves by going and getting all these different bottles of cold medicines, and then it will kill you.
02:24:10.000Robin Page, BBC presenter, said that rural communities deserve the same rights as homosexuals and that word homosexual is illegal if they choose.
02:24:19.000They have special social network, social services boards This is not a joke.
02:24:24.000This is not satire if you're watching this.
02:25:10.000And God Almighty, folks, we've played the tapes from the classrooms.
02:25:14.000Where they bust the seven, eight, nine-year-olds to college dorms and put them in beds together, and then they teach them and have them, yeah, it's open pedophilia.
02:25:24.000Selectively, the only government can practice open pedophilia.
02:25:29.000That's why you've had so many Homeland Security State Directors, Deputy Directors caught, because the whole government isn't bad.
02:25:34.000All the police aren't bad, all the military isn't bad, the whole system isn't corrupt yet, so they keep busting their own people.
02:25:41.000Texas Youth Commission, giant rape rooms, public rape-rape-rariums, coined a term, I mean literally, it's just, it's just, hell has been released!
02:25:51.000Alright, for the last 32 minutes or so I'm going to take calls.
02:25:53.000Right into the break, the behind the scenes.
02:25:55.000Just go to InfoWars.com if you're an internet listener and you can tune into those exclusive screens to hear the behind the scenes.
02:26:01.000Everybody else will continue after this break, but I'm just doing this when we run out of time.
02:26:20.000Well, I had a comment about what you and Cindy were talking about before you lost her, and movies I wanted to recommend.
02:26:27.000First, real quick, I wanted to tell you, I know who El Marco is, if you're interested, but we were talking about not wanting to mix religion with the political aspect of it.
02:26:40.000I understand... Hey, what do you mean you know who Marco is?
02:27:50.000And then they kind of leave in the same direction as them and are friendly on video with each other.
02:27:54.000But we want to know who the guys in disguises are who were with them.
02:27:59.000We know Al Marko goes over and then tells the police knowingly, hey Alex is saying kill Michelle Malkin when he knows it's not me saying it.
02:28:10.000Well, watching Michelle Malkin's videos, she was doing a lot of set-ups, making somebody go out there and talk to some unknowing, you know, college kid who thinks he's a communist or something, and getting him to spill their guts, and making fun of it with a video on her posting.
02:28:25.000No, no, she admitted that she got, quote, attacked the day before, too.
02:28:28.000It was all about setting up provocative actions.
02:28:31.000And then going, oh my God, I call for putting everybody in camps, and then I go to real hardcore liberal things, and they don't like me, and then go...
02:28:39.000I recognized him right away as a guy that I used to rent a room to years ago.
02:28:45.000And I watched all the videos up close, listened to them, and it's exactly how the man acted, saying, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't me, it wasn't me, no, no, no.
02:29:56.000I remember him talking about something about El Marco way back in the day.
02:30:00.000Well, you have to understand, their people have tried to set us up with this info.
02:30:04.000You sound credible, but just write me up something with some proof or give me his contact info, because we caught him other days following us, trying to do stuff.
02:30:15.000I have a video of us at a party I threw like 10, 12 years ago.
02:31:32.000So Jeff, send me that info, okay buddy?
02:31:35.000I will, but Alex, aside from all of Alex Jones' excellent movies, I think people should go check out a movie series called The Illuminati, and another movie called Rings of Power.
02:31:46.000And I think it would be a mistake to disregard the spiritual implications of what's happening.
02:31:54.000I don't have to explain to you how evil these people are, but it is really a spirit war.
02:32:00.000Aren't those like 10 and 20 part series on YouTube?
02:32:06.000I think I've seen a few of those and even linked to them, so don't think that we're disregarding something just because you don't hear us, the particular show you tune in to cover something.
02:32:15.000Listen, I appreciate your calls, Jeff.
02:32:46.000You better get the videos on DVD and make copies of them.
02:32:48.000You better spread the files around while you can.
02:32:51.000We're going into a major depression, probably.
02:32:53.000I mean, my God, it's getting worse faster than I thought it would.
02:32:58.000And I'm here, eat, drinking, and sleeping, literally eating on the air, because I'm, you know, working all the time, you know, even during breaks now.
02:33:07.000I've somehow got to live here, and it's just getting more and more serious.
02:36:34.000That's the kind of thing where it's in the stack and I don't get to it.
02:36:38.000I mean, I did mention it a month ago, but yeah, and saying, look, just anything that's anti-government, anything that criticizes the government, aids the terrorists, take it off.
02:36:50.000The Deputy Attorney General, in 2003, in California, under Bill Lockyer, he was in the newspapers, including the Baltimore Tribune, no, Baltimore, the Oakland Tribune, Oakland Tribune.
02:37:09.000I remember, I read it on air over and over again, it was such a big deal, I read it over and over again on air.
02:37:16.000He said, in the piece, That we're banning all protest against the war in California, and he's a Democrat, because the war is against Al Qaeda.
02:37:27.000And so if you protest a war, this war, you're for Al Qaeda, saying Saddam was Al Qaeda.
02:37:33.000And they're really getting ready for something, folks.
02:37:36.000I mean, I get up here and I say, you should appreciate our videos, you should appreciate the access you have to them.
02:37:42.000Folks, you better go eight, five, six hours a day You know, on message boards, on blogs, sending videos to newsgroups and to Lists and MySpace.
02:38:09.000I know he's busy watching videos he's posting on InfoWars.com.
02:38:13.000Let me give you just a 30 second synopsis, because I have to do this on air, even though I have calls, 50 of them or something.
02:38:20.000On air I was telling you, they're sending it to Aaron at Infowars.com right now.
02:38:26.000Remember Lieberman a month ago said that he wanted YouTube and Google to ban anything that was pro-terrorist?
02:38:31.000That means if you're against the war, you're pro-terrorist.
02:38:33.000Or if you show the troops killing children, you're pro-terrorist.
02:38:37.000They're saying that that's now being implemented and that YouTube's banning all these accounts that show troop atrocities and things like that, which we know they do.
02:38:46.000And so that's a big story we need to get on, the Violent Radicalization Act passing the House.
02:38:50.000And he says NuffRespect has a new video out on it.
02:39:52.000And my question, this is going to sound really crazy.
02:39:55.000With the events, with the economy, and the banks, and maybe even possibly the running of the bank, If one were to want to leave the United States, I mean, there's going to have to be a time if you plan to leave, or you just stand up and fight, but if you leave, you have to leave before there's too much of a crisis.
02:40:15.000Well, they've also passed international laws where they can steal your money for leaving the country, but only big bankers can all leave and have private islands and keep all their money, but you can't really keep much of it.
02:40:26.000But yeah, things are shaping up to where That, you know, evacuation may be needed.
02:40:37.000Rocky Mountain News reported eight years ago, they built giant crematoriums.
02:40:41.000And you can argue whether the Nazis had crematoriums or not, but we know they had them for burning dead bodies, but people claim they didn't.
02:40:47.000The point is that the governor said, we built all these big ovens to burn people during a bio-attack.
02:40:52.000I mean, the black-op government's very, very sick.
02:40:55.000And they're eugenicists and they want to get rid of us.
02:43:15.000that's up to you i mean it's just the banks are so untrustworthy i mean i i think spreading risk is the way to go i think that's good let me ask you about internet too the poll of things happen the way they do the way they're anticipating it to uh...
02:43:32.000i live in an area where where i can't get you on the radio either get it on the internet or i call and like that What about a little pilot program where I was, if there was no internet, like I can copy your show now, I can put five of your shows on DVD.
02:43:47.000I've been asking for six months to have a phone system and then people can listen to free for it and then have sponsorship to pay for it.
02:44:12.000And I want a phone system here where we have like a sponsor who you hear a recording at the first of it when you call so that we can pay for it.
02:44:22.000That's how radio actually started in Europe.
02:44:27.000was phone systems and you called in and you subscribed and uh... they had uh... newsreaders there into a big speaker and you know into a uh... a phonograph and and and and and elites paid for that and companies paid for that.
02:44:38.000It was a contelligence and uh... we are going to put that in.
02:44:44.000And we are going to try to develop a private network for people to get through to.
02:44:48.000The problem is, here's how they're going to shut the web down.
02:44:52.000They're going to build Internet 2, demonize the first Internet, tax it, regulate it, let the hubs fail, start bringing in filtration, which already the major cable companies are doing, Time Warner, Comcast, others.
02:45:12.000The two big carriers have more than half of Canada's customers are saying they're only going to give you a few thousand sites you can visit.
02:47:54.000Well, a lot of people get their claims thrown out, but, but, but, but, I mean, it's no doubt that in England especially, uh, I mean, you just, they do whatever they want.
02:48:04.000Well, the thing is, is I had proof that it happened.
02:48:08.000I had their own admissions, and I got a phone call asking me what I wanted monetarily, and then said that they would be willing to- Stay there, we're gonna talk behind the scenes.
02:49:08.000I didn't finish earlier with Internet 2.
02:49:11.000So they have ways of picking it apart, shutting it down, restricting it.
02:49:15.000Culling groups, regulating, ending net neutrality, taxing it, but also, then they can launch a cyber attack, they've conditioned us with the movies, claiming terrorists did it, and then, oh, only the new, stronger, better Internet, Internet 2, with registration and sign-on and all this, it, it will keep you safe.
02:50:23.000It was at the School of America, actually, and when I got back, a week and a half later, they threw me out of my bank, and they didn't want to tell me why, and I had done business with them for like seven years.
02:50:36.000Oh yeah, you get army spooks on you if you go to that Fort Benning, Georgia deal.
02:50:41.000They're now saying it's terrorism if you touch the fence and you'll get like 20 years in jail.
02:50:46.000That's where they train people how to torture, how to rape children and all the rest of it.
02:52:14.000But for some reason, when I'm looking at them on screen, I tend to go to them faster.
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02:55:36.000I had Nobel Prize winner Joseph Sticklitz on with bombshell economic news saying this may be worse than the Great Depression.
02:55:43.000And I had Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on about all the bankruptcies and bank closings.
02:55:48.000And I cover all the bank runs at the start of the show, and that retransmission starts now on the Internet at one place.
03:00:54.000We've just tried to use any tool we can to expose the enemy.
03:00:57.000Well, put me down as the first person on your list to get one of those phone lines because I, you know, they're not going to stop me from listening to what you've got to say, man.
03:02:59.000Well, I'll tell you what, I'll blab my mouth while you eat for a minute, but real quick, shout out to the guy that was wondering where to put his gold.
03:03:03.000You were trying to be nice to him, but no, do not put it in the safety deposit box, because as far as I know, it's written in the Patriot Act that they can come in and take it.
03:03:20.000First thing is, I watched his deal on the History Channel the other night, and you were on it.
03:03:24.000I'm surprised you haven't talked more about it.
03:03:26.000But I'm sitting there and I'm just getting absolutely irate because of all the inconsistencies that the so-called experts had.
03:03:32.000Yeah, I mean, listen, they've aired that two-hour hit piece more than, I don't know, I think I've heard it's aired like ten times or something.
03:03:39.000It airs every month for like the last year, sometimes multiple times daily, so it's probably twenty, thirty times.
03:03:46.000They would show the popular mechanics, yellow journalism, Hearst people in glistening steel, stainless steel, huge windows and fine suits.
03:03:55.000Then it would say expert and then they'd show a physicist that wouldn't say expert and blow the video out in the wrong frame rate with their head all like that.
03:04:04.000I mean, it was ridiculous, man, it was ridiculous, because every single point that they try to make from the so-called expert, I mean, me, the novice that I am, I could easily rip that to shreds.
03:04:12.000But it also makes people go, wait, you mean, and they know not to trust the media.
03:04:17.000So, see, it's gone to the point of backfiring.
03:04:19.000People know it's a bunch of scum liars and twisters, and so they're going, my God, a two-hour special, saying these people are liars, I better look into it.
03:04:44.000Oh, by the way, they've refused to debate me.
03:04:46.000Popular Mechanics will not debate me, but I called in on the show once.
03:04:49.000When they were on there, and I brought up things like, you say that NORAD never said they intercepted a plane but one time in their history, but here's Reuters, the same expert you used, the head spokesman of NORAD saying 160-something times in the year before 9-11.
03:05:02.000And then they said 25% of the building was scooped out, the final NIST report.
03:05:06.000The NIST report discredits them, because now it says 25% was not scooped out by the North Tower falling into the 47-story building, Building 7.
03:05:15.000But see, people just hear, a government report discredited it.
03:05:19.000But if you actually read the Warren Commission, it discredits the Kennedy.
03:05:22.000If you actually read the NIST report, it discredits 9-11.
03:05:44.000A frickin' child could figure that out.
03:05:47.000The other thing I wanted to ask you is, you know, the day of Ron Paul's get-together there, we had the third-party candidates and Bob Barr dissed him.
03:05:53.000Did you hear about Adam Kokesh, the guy from Iraq Vets Against the War, going in there and telling him to his face that he was pulling his endorsement of him?
03:06:42.000Hey, I was calling about our monetary system.
03:06:45.000I had served a petition on my Congressman Earl Blumenauer here about why is America's money privately owned and not publicly owned as mandated by the United States Constitution.
03:06:54.000I've got all these books and videos and stuff sitting around and I've seen them and burned them and passed them around so I took all those down there to him and dropped them off and I was calling in just to say, maybe there's other folks listening, got some of those same books.
03:07:06.000I had Hanson on the IRS, Congressman George Hanson, to harass our people.
03:07:12.000Give them as much information that is from their own kind, from their own congressman, and just start putting these people on the spot.
03:07:18.000Well, it's every person you wake up, every person you confront, and I appreciate your call.
03:07:25.000That's why it's hiring SWAT teams, hiring more cops, building more prisons, passing laws for the general public to ensnare us, to go out and eat out our substance, to harass our people, as Declaration of Independence says.
03:08:06.000Ironically, there was another caller just called in about the Show that was on the History Channel had you and Burmese and his bunch calling us all liars and thieves and, you know, communists and etc.
03:08:26.000The main thing I saw was as a filmmaker that they shot us in a different frame rate, made our skin yellow, blew out the video.
03:08:33.000I mean, when you look at the interviews with Dylan especially, his head fills half the screen, it's all yellow, and it looks like he's like this.
03:08:44.000I mean, they just pulled out every stop.
03:09:17.000And I said, Hersh Publishing isn't involved in this, are they?
03:09:19.000Because I knew they owned part of history.
03:09:20.000And they said, I promise you, they are not.
03:09:26.000I mean, that's the thing, is that they're a pack of liars, man!
03:09:30.000Hey, another thing, ironically, there was a guy called in, said that he had been calling in listening to your show, and every day, I tried to get a hold of you, When I saw that show advertised, because I have no way to record it, I wanted to let you know it was coming on.
03:09:53.000I hadn't seen it, and I even tried to email Weldon.
03:09:57.000He's a friend of mine, and my computer was having problems, so I couldn't get through that way, and then I tried to call every day, and then I hear people calling and saying that they're listening to the phone Well, that cuts us callers out that really need to get a hold of you.
03:11:09.000I don't mean to plug it on the air, but hey, just let me really quickly... Well, there are Illuminati sponsors, so it's... Let me tell you real quick.
03:11:24.000I'm trying to do all this stuff, and I don't care about any of it anymore.
03:11:27.000All I'm doing... I'm devoted to myself.
03:11:29.000I spent all my money two weeks ago on a video camera.
03:11:32.000I'm trying to go around, capture conversations with people, and show Some more people do more of what you're doing because you can't do it all on your own.
03:11:39.000And, you know, honestly, it's like... Another thing I wanted to say, too, and it's too bad that we're not on your radio broadcast, but there's people out there listening on the Internet right now in places of influence, places of power, politics, you know, in media, and they know we're sitting there listening to this show, and they're watching all these little news stories drop to the bottom of the river.
03:12:34.000In the rebroadcast coming up in 15 minutes is Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
03:12:38.000Right now on the show I was covering all the economic collapse data, the banks, the runs on banks and What's happening with the big brokerage houses going down?