On today's show, we are joined by AJ in Maine and Alex in Dallas, TX to talk about the latest in the financial crisis and the need for change. We also discuss the recent events in Dallas and other major cities, including the recent mass arrests of critics of the Obama administration, and the possibility of martial law being declared.
00:00:58.000First of all, I know that money is the root of all evil, and I'm wondering if this whole bailout thing is kind of taking everyone's eye off the ball as far as the other issues that are going on right now.
00:01:09.000Well, money is not the root of all evil.
00:01:13.000Yes, as far as everyone's scared of, you know, losing their retirement, the stock market crashing, you know, everyone's more concerned about... Yeah, they're terrorizing, saying, give the private banks government power, total immunity, and let us steal trillions of dollars more from you, because this is the final phase.
00:01:47.000It's a crisis of confidence, both in the markets and with the government, and so you've got 90-something percent against it, but the elite shows its colors and says, you know what?
00:01:59.000But as far as, like, the organization, as far as the real matters, like the 9-11 Truth Movement and, you know, this Iran-Russia thing and the presidential election, Isn't there any way for an organization to come together and get some big lawyers behind them, kind of like what the ACLU does, and really push for that?
00:02:21.000There's no magic silver bullet, but certainly grand juries at the state level where these crimes have been committed in Dallas and Houston and LA and New York and DC, they can be calling for indictments, handing down indictments for all these different criminals.
00:02:37.000That would slow the system down if we had local justice, but we don't.
00:02:42.000I mean, the only other option is the whole fear of that, like you were talking about, the violence and, you know, the militias and all these, like, secret things that are going on right now and these riots and them declaring martial law.
00:02:54.000I mean, that's totally out of people like ours control.
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00:08:23.000You know, I just wanted to bring up a couple quick points.
00:08:26.000You know, I've been listening for quite a while, and I think that a couple things that people need to do simply is vote.
00:08:33.000Contact your congresspeople, as I have about voting no.
00:08:36.000On this bailout, I've contacted, I live in Vermont currently, but I contacted Barack Obama, which is where I'm registered to vote, and I let all my senators and representatives know to vote no on this, and I think that's something that people need to do.
00:08:54.000They admit that around 5 to 9 percent, depending on the poll, are for it, 90 plus percent against it.
00:09:00.000Another testament, this government is rogue, this government is criminal, because they are planning to pass it.
00:09:05.000Yeah, and I'm sitting at home today watching, as it doesn't pass in the House, as it has not passed, that, you know, watching the stock market just take a tumble, it's like 500 to 600 points down at points.
00:09:21.000I think this goes to show exactly a lot of the things that you've been talking about, and gold is like the only thing that went up.
00:09:32.000So, I think people need to take stock in some of the things, not just that you say, but that other people in the same community say, and people need to listen to.
00:09:39.000Well, what have we said here that hasn't come true?
00:09:44.000The globalists say what they're doing.
00:09:46.000I mean, we got it almost three years ago out of Bilderberg that they were going to stage an economic collapse triggered by the subprime mortgages and blame it on the people.
00:09:57.000I mean, we didn't just say there'd be a collapse in a few years.
00:10:00.000We said exactly what would happen because we were getting it from the global rulers.
00:10:05.000And so, again, We have all these declassified army documents about how they like to stage terror attacks, so of course we talk about the government staging terror attacks.
00:10:16.000We're only going off what they say and what they do.
00:10:23.000Thank you, and I just, like I said, I've been in my mom's ear constantly, because my mom and dad support Obama, even though they're in their seventies, which would make them fit more the camp of McCain.
00:10:36.000The global architects, the social architects, the social engineers, they know that the people are mad, so they give us something on the surface that looks different.
00:11:39.000I made a sign that said 9-11 was an inside job, and the other side said, Save America for Paulson, and they were great.
00:11:48.000But the thing that I noticed, they did a poll after the debate, I think they said locally there at the event 36% were pro-Obama, 22% for McCain.
00:11:57.000I think that leaves about 44% undecided.
00:12:00.000And I was talking to Chris Matthews, and I said, I think the undecided are the people that are true conservatives that wanted Ron Paul to get in there, or somebody other than McCain.
00:12:10.000Democrats up in the Northeast cross party lines to go vote for McCain to get the weakest candidate possible for the Republicans.
00:12:17.000And I think that if these 44% of the people get up and go and vote on Election Day, we could possibly have a, you know, a great turnout for either the constitutional party candidate, Chuck Baldwin, or right in for Ron Paul.
00:12:58.000Didn't want to sign the front, but he did sign the back.
00:13:00.000Well, Save America, arrest Paulson, but I love your sign.
00:13:04.000No, I mean, I try to not bash police, though I do do it, because the culture's out of control, the orders they're giving are unconstitutional.
00:13:11.000And a lot of police really are awake right now, more than even the general public, because they know what's going on behind the scenes.
00:15:35.000I wonder if these Obama police and prosecutors and sheriff's department people realize that they're opening themselves up for serious felonies.
00:16:26.000It looked like that it was going against, but that's very interesting.
00:16:31.000And I was going to say, I haven't heard anyone say this yet, but debt is extremely maxed out on every aspect.
00:16:41.000And there's a lot of talk now of going to gold, but wouldn't the bankers love to get paid back all that debt in gold?
00:16:49.000Well, how are they going to physically, if you've got gold buried under the old hickory tree, or silver, how are they going to physically squeeze that out of you?
00:16:57.000The point is... I mean, if we made the dollar, like, gold again, or... They put the Amaro in and it was based on gold.
00:17:05.000Sure, well that's not seriously being discussed.
00:17:08.000They're talking about re-monetizing the debt with a new regional currency that will be fiat as well.
00:17:15.000So there's just not enough gold and silver to make the currency be backed by that.
00:17:19.000I know some of the economists from the Austrian school have called for that, but that's really not being seriously discussed.
00:17:30.000Here is the headline, House Votes Down Bill to Bail Out Financial Markets.
00:17:37.000And so the stock market was already plunging.
00:17:39.000It's going to plunge even further as the private Federal Reserve, involved in insider trading, Through the Plunge Protection Team.
00:17:49.000You watch, they are now not going to basically pump money into the market today.
00:17:54.000And then it will plunge even further and they can say, see, we told you so.
00:17:59.000House votes against $700 million rescue plan.
00:18:03.000Washington House lawmakers voted 205 to 228 Monday against approving the historic $700 million financial rescue plan.
00:18:11.000A sharp blow to the administration and a bipartisan rallying efforts for leaders in Congress who warned the country's on the brink of economic collapse unless it's passed.
00:18:20.000With elections approaching, some lawmakers, both Democrat and Republican, may feel nervous about voting for a plan that will risk so much taxpayer money and can't promise success.
00:18:29.000But the President has lobbied hard to approve the plan, and U.S.
00:18:32.000officials also have stressed the dire consequences of action.
00:18:36.000And there is a bunch of language we've been scanning over the bill about immunity for those involved in the financial structure for their crimes.
00:18:45.000Critics say the plan does not adequately address problems such as job loss and distressed housing market that underline current economic weakness.
00:18:53.000officials have hoped that the plan would ease the credit crunch and restore confidence in markets, even as the markets plunge around the world.
00:19:02.000Those in favor of the rescue plan may have been trying to treat the most manageable symptom, the frozen credit market, if not the actual disease.
00:19:10.000A vote in the Senate was expected Wednesday, and the President would have followed with speedy signature.
00:19:16.000Earlier today, doubt emerged over whether enough representatives would vote in favor of the plan, as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appealed to colleagues in the earlier afternoon, stressing representatives will continue to monitor financial issues and pursue additional strategies.
00:19:31.000She said it's imperative that the measure on the floor receives bipartisan support.
00:19:37.000So, we'll continue breaking down the latest economic developments as they unfold on the other side of this quick break.
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00:21:13.000investigators believe that there are Israelis, again, very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
00:21:19.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:21:23.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
00:26:08.000This is actually incredibly positive, what's happening right now.
00:26:13.000To have wall-to-wall fear-mongering, every major TV news show, Almost every radio talk show, the newspaper is saying, we need the bailout, we need the bailout, we need the bailout.
00:26:24.000Oh, it's not perfect, but it's the best thing we've got.
00:26:27.000Pushing it, and pushing it, and pushing it.
00:26:54.000So they're able to freeze him out of the presidential run to where he couldn't get that nomination, but now everybody remembers what Ron Paul said in the debates and all over television and in Congress to such an extent that Chuck Norris has written an editorial.
00:27:08.000Paul would point them out and I would choke them.
00:27:11.000Chuck Norris is defecting from being a neocon minion now.
00:27:16.000I've been told by folks that know Chuck Norris well, who I know that know him up in Dallas where he lives, that he is a closet patriot.
00:27:23.000Looks like he's taken the step of recusing himself from the neocons, just like we've seen Bruce Willis do.
00:27:32.000We told you here with director Rick Linklater that made a movie with him, that on the set he gave him a bunch of my videos, and Bruce said about a year and a half ago, I'm no longer a neocon, I've woken up to the left-right paradigm, and the people didn't believe it on this show, and then he went in Vanity Fair and talked about government-sponsored terror, and how the government killed Kennedy, and how he didn't trust Republicans or Democrats now.
00:27:52.000So Chuck Norris waking up, Bruce Willis, the point is they're canaries in the coal mine.
00:27:59.000If Chuck Norris were granted one wish, he would walk through Congress with Ron Paul and watch as Paul, the Republican representative from Texas, pointed out the corrupt politicians.
00:28:09.000One by one, Norris would grab each crooked congressman and choke him unconscious.
00:28:13.000I keep sticking them in a pile, piling them up to the martial arts star, who at 68 looks as young and bluff as the Walker, Texas Ranger.
00:29:04.000And so Congress has said no to the bailout.
00:29:07.000Now they'll probably totally spike the stock market and say, okay, you better pass it.
00:29:13.000Then they'll try to pass it and then maybe buoy it back up because the private Federal Reserve puts tens of billions a day into the stock market.
00:34:00.000So, uh, that's not going well on news of the Congress saying they're not going to give the private banks that caused all these problems a free ride.
00:34:09.000Bob Dacey will be with us for the rest of the broadcast, about an hour and twenty minutes of it.
00:34:14.000For the next five minutes, I wanted to bring Ted Anderson on, not to say, see, I told you so.
00:34:20.000In fact, for those watching me on PrisonPlanet.tv, they can see me dancing around with the music.
00:34:24.000I'm making myself be positive, I'm making myself be happy, I'm making myself not be negative here, because I'm very very upset about what's happening.
00:34:33.000This could turn into a road warrior type economic collapse, because the fact that we're 90 plus percent urban, no longer agrarian, 7 million people according to different studies that have been done by universities, 7 plus million starved to death during the decade of depression.
00:34:50.000And this is very predatory of what's being set up.
00:34:52.000This has been engineered by design, and then they want to, through the crisis they create, create a world dictatorship of the banks.
00:35:00.000And Henry Kissinger and others called for that last week.
00:35:03.000There were stories up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.net by Steve Watson on that, with their quotes and videos of them saying it.
00:35:11.000How many years have we said they'll create a world economic crisis based in the U.S., then offer a new global economic order to deal with the last scam they ran?
00:35:19.000A new Ponzi scheme for the old one now coming to an end.
00:35:23.000So we're at a very important crossroads.
00:35:25.000And I thought the House was going to pass the economic bailout of the bankers, the takeover bill, the criminal stick-up bill, but it didn't.
00:35:34.000And I said last week, if that didn't happen, then they would just plunge the market, because the Federal Reserve has been propping it up for years with our tax money every day, with the Plunge Protection Team, the Committee on Open Markets that they set up back in the 80s.
00:35:46.000And that they would then let it crash, then pump it back up when people finally acquiesce.
00:38:26.000We got problems, but at least we're not billing out the banks.
00:38:29.000We are going to see the dollar fall, and it's going to become... I doubt it a bit if we're still trading Federal Reserve notes even ten years from now.
00:38:37.000And folks, I know you like to procrastinate.
00:38:40.000Oh, they'll try to have them, Amaro, within four years, I believe, a lot of experts believe.
00:38:44.000I'm looking right now at the gold numbers from CNBC and gold is up $27 plus today at $9.04.80.
00:40:00.000I'm making some buys right now while gold is only at $8.75 because I believe it's going to explode next week whether they do the bailout or not.
00:40:10.000And boy was Ted Wright, it's up $27 from the close Friday.
00:40:17.000And so, Ted, you're saying you've got gold at how much below spot?
00:40:57.000I would say it's one of the best buys I've ever done.
00:41:00.000Except for that one time on Monday I locked in, and gold shot up eighty-some bucks that day, but I don't know, that's the only time gold's ever done that in history.
00:41:09.000And right now, it's up thirty bucks, this whole thing's melting down, and we don't know what the market is going to carry forward to the rest of today.
00:41:16.000That's right, and the futures show it only going up as well, and so I think it's safe to say that, well, gold's broken the psychological of nine hundred and is sailing up On its way towards $1,000.
00:41:28.000Ted, how long do you think until it potentially hits $1,000?
00:41:31.000Well, you know, obviously if we break through that $900 level, we could see $1,000 in three days.
00:41:37.000I mean, we went $85 up in one day, and then we're up over $130 within two.
00:41:43.000And folks, you know, I've bought gold and silver over the years, a little bit here, a little bit there, and invested it and done things with it.
00:41:49.000And I bought gold when it was $264, and it was $300 when it was $400, $500, $600, $700, $800.
00:41:53.000I bought gold from Ted when it was $1,000.
00:41:55.000Did I sell it when it went down to $800 and something?
00:41:58.000I kept it because it's my insurance policy.
00:42:03.000We could be in a depression next week, God forbid, but in the future, every economist we have on says within two to three years, the worst depression we've ever seen, And now is the time to move out of dollars.
00:42:15.000Now is the time to get out of the bank and get out of paper, because this derivatives bubble that is over one thousand trillion, over a quadrillion, it is not going away, period.
00:42:25.000So you are insane if you don't move into gold and silver.
00:42:28.000And if you are moving into gold and silver and metals, you are even more insane not to get it from Ted Anderson right now, who has it in his vault, who got it When gold was down $30, okay?
00:42:42.000He made a major buy, Thursday and Friday made buys.
00:42:46.000Ladies and gentlemen, he has the gold, he has the silver, but here's the problem.
00:42:50.000Ted's told me he's having trouble getting the gold and silver in these really good coins because, and there's a lot of articles about real scarcity in gold.
00:42:58.000They're trying to suppress it and can't suppress the price.
00:43:02.000But they're suppressing it from where it should be at above $2,000 for inflation from 1980 numbers.
00:43:06.000But physically in this market, in the real market, they're running out of gold and silver.
00:43:17.000When you watch that volatility, it means that the futures market is bouncing up and down.
00:43:21.000But that's all paper, and it's all credit and leverage.
00:43:24.000I mean, for God's sakes, there are only 10 cents on the dollars there to back the trades that are going through.
00:43:30.000And when that goes down and that goes up, that doesn't affect the physical market.
00:43:33.000Like you, Alex, people are buying this stuff and they're holding on to it.
00:43:36.000Just because they paid a thousand bucks for it doesn't mean they're willing to sell it when gold's down in the $780 range.
00:43:43.000And now it's just bouncing right back up again.
00:43:46.000In fact, from $780 to $905, it just went up again.
00:43:47.000We're talking about a massive increase here.
00:43:49.000We're talking about a $125 increase in the last two weeks.
00:43:51.000We're talking about a massive increase here.
00:44:00.000We're talking about a $125 increase in the last two weeks.
00:44:04.000Most of the countries around the world quit coining gold and silver coins back in World War II.
00:44:11.000I mean, yeah, you got the Eagles, you got some, you know, the Canadian Maple Leaf, and this kind of adds a little bit of supply to the market, but it's nothing in comparison to what it used to be like.
00:44:21.000The supply of gold and silver is drying up, especially silver.
00:47:08.000It's at $907 right now, or up right at $30 today.
00:47:12.000Okay, he's with us until the end of the show.
00:47:14.000Coming up later, I'm going to go to your calls on the economy and what's happening, and we'll cover things as they develop.
00:47:20.000Bob Dacey really is an expert on the Federal Reserve in the now decade-plus that he has been studying what's going on and what has been happening, and I'm pleased to have Bob Dacey in studio with us.
00:47:33.000Bob, it's good to have you here, my friend.
00:47:35.000Alex, it's been a while since I've been in here.
00:47:38.000That's right, and folks know Bob has sat in on quite a few shows and done an excellent job, other than speaking too softly, and my guys didn't turn his mic up, but he is just awesome.
00:47:47.000We've got about three or four minutes before break, but let's go ahead and get into your bottom line take on what's happening with the banker bailout.
00:47:55.000Well, I've got to tell you something, Alex.
00:47:58.000I was betting on them voting for this thing anyway.
00:48:00.000I mean, I called my congressman and my senators every single day for the last week, and very calmly, like I always do, explained why there's no way they should vote for this, and I'm sure it was going on all over the country, but I'm trying to figure out, and I don't understand, this is one of these anatomical anomalies.
00:48:17.000How did A creature without a spine walk erect and then develop a spine and actually develop some cojones and actually vote the right way.
00:48:28.000I'm actually thinking that this gigantic amount of pressure that we the people put on these creatures actually might have had an effect.
00:48:36.000I'm a little concerned that they're going to try to pull something else out of the hat before, you know... No, they're going to crash it and say it's our fault.
00:48:44.000I mean, that's why they blame it on the subprime.
00:48:47.000Well, it's always our fault, but the thing that people have to understand, and this is the bottom line, and Alex is right about this, they're not really trying to fix anything.
00:48:56.000I mean, they are trying to tank the economy one way or another.
00:49:21.000And by the way, I haven't pointed out in weeks that the Bush's specialty, all of them have different criminal specialties, but it's all about raiding SNLs, blowing out savings and loans, robbing banks, you know, being bank directors.
00:49:33.000I mean, that's the Bush specialty, and McCain's specialty.
00:50:12.000I'll give you a great example of Main Street versus Wall Street.
00:50:14.000The logic must have been so ridiculous that even the congressman must have been able to figure it out.
00:50:19.000What they're proposing to do, according to Bernanke, was to buy this stuff back, all these bad mortgages, at what their market value was in more normal times.
00:50:29.000So you've got a $100,000 mortgage that's worth $60,000 now, and they're going to take taxpayer money and spend $100,000 on it.
00:50:39.000And if we're going to be complete socialists, why be socialists for the billionaire bankers?
00:50:43.000I mean, if we're going to do this, if we're going to be paying interest on this, this is a credit card, then we might as well be able to buy the crap.
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00:52:19.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:54:09.000Okay, Bob, you've got a lot of notes there, a lot of news and points you want to make, and I want to get the calls coming up in the next hour.
00:54:38.000But this thing goes back way over a hundred years.
00:54:40.000Cecil Rhodes, the super-rich guy from way back in the good old days, 1890s and whatnot, he was the one that went over to South Africa and he founded De Beers, just super-rich, kicked a bunch of Africans off their land, the Metabiti tribe, and got their Got their gold and stuff and all that.
00:54:58.000This guy was one of the super rich guys back then and when he died he had a will and in his will he set up the Rhodes Scholarship.
00:55:05.000You just think that's for a bunch of smart people.
00:55:07.000Well no, the Rhodes Scholarship program was set up as a recruiting ground for elitists and his fondest desire according to his biographer was to gradually absorb the wealth of the world into the hands of the few.
00:55:22.000And from the Rhodes Trust and all that came financing for the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London and its cousin over here in the United States, the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:55:35.000And this is not something which is debatable.
00:56:09.000And it goes on to say it refers to a purported conspiracy in which a powerful and secretive group is plotting to eventually rule the world via an autonomous world government, which would replace sovereign states and other checks and balances in world power struggles.
00:56:22.000And it goes on to say it's an imaginary theory, but then when you start reading it, it gets into Cecil Rhodes' book, Cecil Rhodes' will, a New World Order set up for the British Empire with the United States and Anglo-American establishment.
00:56:35.000Then it goes through all the books written by the elites and the real groups they set up to do it, and all the presidents that have called for it and prime ministers.
00:57:03.000And when Cecil Rhodes puts it in his will, and by the way, one of the things in his will was he wanted to recruit people through this Rhodes Scholarship Fund of what he called unctuous rectitude.
00:57:41.000And it doesn't matter if you have North American Union documents.
00:57:44.000It doesn't matter if you have presidents calling for world government.
00:57:47.000It doesn't matter if all these corporations are calling for it.
00:57:49.000They just respond to us by saying it doesn't exist.
00:57:52.000And Wikipedia basically says it doesn't exist, but then goes on to show all the elitists saying it does exist.
00:57:58.000You know, there was a book written a few years ago about, what was it, trying to Oh, it was taking over all these countries with economic means.
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01:00:10.000Bob, you've got a lot of notes and comments and news articles you want to go over concerning the bailout that, at least for this round, failed today in the House.
01:00:18.000A big shocker, but the polls show around five to nine percent, depending on which poll.
01:00:23.000And we've got a bunch of them up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
01:00:27.000Also, hundreds of top economists Have written emails, letters, they've gone on TV, they've gone on radio, they've said it's a big scam, they've said that these are criminal acts committed by those in the banking structure.
01:00:38.000We played some congressmen and women commenting on this during the debates earlier in the first hour.
01:00:44.000I had a congressman on from Texas who said they basically declared martial law in the House, saying the normal rules were suspended.
01:00:51.000I mean, these are some crazy times that we're in the middle of right now.
01:00:56.000I think that what they were trying to do, Alex, was just too over the top.
01:00:59.000I mean, I looked at the so-called improved bill, the 110 pages of garbage that they posted last night on the internet, and they had basically four things they promised us idiots that they were going to do.
01:01:12.000One of them was to make sure that the executives didn't get paid too much.
01:01:16.000You know what kind of a nonsense that is relative to the amount of money they were talking about?
01:01:19.000You're talking about a few million here or there instead of billions and billions and billions with the shareholders.
01:01:25.000But the larger issue is they said, don't worry, an independent commission made up of Paulson and the chairman of the Federal Reserve and the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission, the guys that literally did the bank robbery.
01:01:39.000Yeah, you're going to have Paulson, and you're going to have Bernanke, and you're going to have a couple of other executive branch people are going to oversee it.
01:02:14.000And we're talking about trillions of dollars here.
01:02:15.000Yeah, and they also said that they were going to make sure that in several years from now, if the enterprises that they're going to buy for way more than they're worth, Start making money that they're going to have to like, no, they didn't say they were going to have to pay it back.
01:02:29.000They said the president was going to have to make a proposal that they pay it back.
01:02:34.000So I mean, when you ask the girl to marry her, that's a proposal.
01:02:37.000She doesn't have to say yes, does she?
01:02:46.000You've got a $100,000 mortgage on a house, right?
01:02:49.000The thing is now, the house that holds it up is only worth $60,000 now.
01:02:52.000Because like in California, they said that real estate has dropped 40%.
01:02:55.000So you've got a $100,000 mortgage with a $60,000 house.
01:03:00.000Bernanke said that the point of all this was to take the $700 billion and buy these things for more like what their normal market value would be, i.e.
01:03:08.000So if you buy something that's worth $60,000, how in the world are you going to make any money on it in a few years so you can pay us back?
01:03:15.000It is a total crock, and I think even the Congress people were able to figure that out.
01:03:21.000Well, I think they know, getting millions of phone calls.
01:03:23.000I mean, per congressman, they said it was thousands and thousands, and they said, out of congressmen on First Hour, saying, out of several thousand phone calls against, five, count it, five were for it.
01:03:35.000Yeah, those were probably the guys that are members of the Federal Reserve Board.
01:03:37.000But that's kind of like TxDOT handing over our roads to the private company, Centra.
01:03:41.000They'll have a meeting with 1,200 people, and there'll be three or four there for it, and they're all TxDOT employees, and then they say, okay, we're voting against what the people want, we're going to hand it over to Centra.
01:03:50.000And I've got a story on that I'm working on right now, Alex, too, about the Stafford Superhighway.
01:04:09.000You know, we've been working on the Trans-Texas Corridor for a long time, and our typical TV shows had a lot to do with it, and our work in The New American has had a lot to do with stopping the Trans-Texas Corridor.
01:04:19.000Pasture came out a few months ago and said it was dead, which it really is.
01:04:24.000But there's a new deal coming out in Arizona which is obscene and it's huge.
01:04:30.000They're trying to kick 450 people out of their houses because their houses are in the way of a hub they want to build and the Canamex route going through Arizona.
01:06:27.000Hey, Bob Dacey, doesn't it seem to you, though, like no matter what crap the government puts out and the corporations now, no one's buying it?
01:06:34.000I mean, we've done quite a bit of good waking people up.
01:06:37.000Is it possible that people like Alex Jones, working 18 hours and 20 hours a day for all these years, for all this time, have actually started to have an effect?
01:06:47.000Is it possible that we're pushing back against these people and they're getting a little nervous?
01:06:52.000Is it possible that we are actually winning this thing?
01:06:55.000Is it possible that someday we'll be able to arrest them and try them?
01:06:59.000They're going to get full due process.
01:07:39.000Now, I believe they lost control here.
01:07:40.000I believe they were trying to pass it.
01:07:42.000I'm going to say that when we get back.
01:07:43.000We're going live to the full audience right now.
01:07:46.000PrisonPlanet.tv viewers get to see all the silliness that goes on, but here we go.
01:07:54.000Alright, I'm in a good mood right now.
01:07:56.000media government cover-ups you want answers well so does he he's alex jones on the gcn radio network and now live from austin texas alex jones all right i'm in a good mood right now i'm getting that because they clearly this is not staged My instincts, my gut.
01:08:28.000It's like asking a good police detective, well why is it your hunch he committed the murder and nine times out of ten it turns out they were right.
01:09:02.000I know that I've interviewed a congressman on air, several others I've seen giving interviews, have been saying, and the polls show, around five to nine percent, any way you cut it, 90 plus percent are against this bailout package.
01:10:37.000So we should talk about, and we're opening the phones up in about ten minutes, we should talk about what Bob Dacey today, who really has been studying and writes articles for New American Magazine and hosts this TV show for nigh on, is it a decade yet?
01:10:49.000We just finished our ninth year, I can't believe it.
01:10:52.000So, bottom line, this is being devalued, but not as fast as the bankers would have liked.
01:10:57.000If this bailout would have passed, the dollar would have gone down.
01:10:59.000Gold probably, the more I think about it, probably would have gone up either way.
01:11:03.000Now, look for the dollar to stay the same, though it's dropping.
01:11:08.000I would think it would stay the same, saying that, you know, as much damage has been done, it wouldn't drop any more for now.
01:11:14.000I would think it would have gone down further if they would have passed this, but gold regardless is why a lot of crazy things are going on.
01:11:20.000What is the establishment going to do now?
01:11:24.000Because they had the Republican and Democratic leadership in the House and in the Senate, in the Executive with the Republicans, and most of these governors on both parties coming out and saying we had to have it.
01:11:36.000Most of the TV coverage said, well the people don't want it but you need it.
01:11:39.000And so the news spin over the weekend was, we know the people don't want it, but you don't know what's best for you.
01:11:50.000Paulson came out yelling, fire in the theater, he should be You know, you've got free speech, but as the Secretary of the Treasury, who's committed most of these crimes, and let all this happen, and been involved in it, in conflict of interest, giving tens of billions a week to Goldman Sachs that he just ran a few years ago, he needs to step down, he needs to resign.
01:12:09.000Now, I don't think he should be arrested, even though in his power position, he yelled fire in the theater.
01:12:38.000If there is a depression out of this, they already set all this up and let us into this.
01:12:43.000They need to get the blame for saying a depression would come if this didn't pass.
01:12:48.000If the stock market tanks by a third today, which is shaping up to lose ten percent at least today, it looks like, if that happens, they are the ones that did it.
01:12:58.000They caused the previous economic activities and set up the system that's now causing this, and they then grandstanded and said, Pardons, give us unlimited political power, create a fourth branch of government above all the rest of the government, make the private Federal Reserve governmental, it's always been private basically, give them governmental powers, or Armageddon, fiscal Armageddon.
01:13:30.000I don't know how the market isn't going to completely tank.
01:13:33.000And plus, you notice, they're not in there with the Plunge Protection Team, it appears, with the Federal Reserve dumping money into the market to prop it up.
01:13:39.000So these bastards are in control, and they're doing it any way you cut it.
01:13:43.000Well, you know, one good thing about all this, and people of my ilk have said for years and years and years that the salvation of this country in terms of politically has never been through the executive branch of the government.
01:13:55.000The House of Representatives has always been the place that it's kind of like we have to rely on them, unfortunately.
01:14:01.000And in this particular case, it looks like massive pressure on the part of the people of the United States has finally gotten the House to pay attention.
01:14:11.000And, you know, although I would be a lot more comfortable if they would conduct an investigation And start indicting some of these people because, you know, Nancy Kaptur herself, Democratic representative, she said yesterday that there's criminal behavior going on here.
01:15:32.000This is your dollar relative to like 1913 or 1911, you know.
01:15:37.000When the Jekyll Island meeting took place and they started forming the Federal Reserve, this is what they've done to your dollar over the last several years.
01:15:45.000Because literally, I mean, two cents back then... But while it was worth something, they took it and bought up real assets.
01:15:52.000And the bottom line is, all this is, it's a giant scam.
01:15:56.000It's theft of your hard work, your hard labor.
01:18:49.000You know, I mean, it's like, I have said before that... Because they're probably going to crash the economy and blame it on us.
01:18:54.000I don't know, but recently I thought that, you know, we've been fighting this delaying action going back and back and back and back.
01:19:00.000And the last couple of years to this NAFTA Superhighway fight that we've been on, I feel like we've been going forward and making them retreat.
01:19:07.000And here's another little victory for this.
01:19:09.000I don't know whether it's going to be a Pyrrhic victory for us.
01:19:11.000Oh, no, Alex is getting some more of his money out.
01:19:13.000Hey, Alex, I dare you to burn that $100 bill.
01:20:09.000In Arizona, you've got a situation where the Attorney General, under the guise of saving an Air Force base, is kicking people out of a residential area.
01:20:26.000With eminent domain, you've got to pay the suckers, see?
01:20:29.000But with this procedure, they have just made sure that nobody in the subdivision can get a permit to do anything, therefore the house is worthless.
01:20:37.000And if they have to move, nobody's going to buy it.
01:20:40.000And this thing is sitting literally in between... If those people don't move off right now, well, they'll just send a SWAT team in!
01:20:46.000Yeah, it's sitting between a Canamex corridor location and a big... Those don't exist!
01:20:52.000...a multimodal hub That's supposed to be on the other side of it, and they're kind of in the way.
01:20:57.000And what's interesting is that the Attorney General of the state, who wants to run for governor, has imposed this building moratorium, this permit.
01:21:04.000You can't get a permit to do anything in this area.
01:21:47.000But anyway, this story is something else because it's a human interest thing where they're kicking people off their property without even having to pay for it.
01:25:24.000Remember in Austin several years ago, out west of here, they said, okay, no more development, we've got to protect the... And then they let her take the restriction off ahead of themselves as arch criminals, and the mindless yuppies dance around loving being conned.
01:25:36.000They drove down the price of everybody's stuff out there, and then they get a bond for us to buy it.
01:25:41.000And the farmers wouldn't give their land up, they sent SWAT teams.
01:25:44.000And then after the price was down, they bought it, and then all of a sudden, a few years later, all these rich developments are popping up out there.
01:25:50.000Well, that same idea out here, except for these guys are in the way of the Canamex Corridor development.
01:25:55.000And it's a real interesting story, and I think that, you know, the human interest part of it is like, okay, how would you like it if you had a house, and you had a fire, and you couldn't get a permit to rebuild your kitchen?
01:26:34.000Yeah, that's freedom for the New World Order.
01:26:36.000The American people laughed and giggled about dead Iraqi children, now they can be slaves.
01:26:39.000And the same thing they're doing in Texas, they're doing over there, they're couching it with all the local politicos as some sort of a economic development thing, and you peonic homeowners are in the way, and they try to make it a local issue, when they know full well it's not.
01:26:54.000And John McCain is the one that was behind all this.
01:27:32.000And by the way, when states started blocking it, Bush has signed an executive order to start grabbing people's land and grabbing the roads.
01:27:39.000Yeah, and of course our local governor here in the state, you know, Totally trashed.
01:29:21.000Anyways, I had a caller yesterday, said that he wanted to come down to the studio and arrest Webster Tarpley, because he was criticizing, uh, Lord Obama.
01:31:42.000Everybody's posing and looking and I'm just trying to ignore it and work out.
01:31:47.000But I just thought about these guys all act so tough, everybody's just so into their image and nobody's going to screw them and they're bad ass and all this.
01:31:54.000And you know, like men will walk around a corner and you're trying to walk somewhere and then when you try to get out of their way they kind of go...
01:32:02.000And, you know, as a man, I'm not thinking about that kind of stuff because, you know, back when I was a teenager, I was.
01:32:09.000You know, I was into, you know, fist-fighting and being tough, and I thought that was really important.
01:32:12.000Later, I figured out it's important not to get into those situations.
01:32:15.000But the point I was making is, these men are so into image and acting tough and acting savage and full of, you know, bravado and machismo or, you know, they're macho.
01:32:34.000Anyways, the point is that they cower to cops.
01:32:36.000They cower to having their rights violated.
01:32:38.000They cower to bankers robbing them and stealing them blind.
01:32:41.000I mean, a real man gets really mad about being a slave and his children being slaves and corrupt elites, and then somehow we've been taught... Oh, we're going back live.
01:33:48.000You're not a guy that gets into being a tough guy.
01:33:50.000But you know, your whole family, military folks, cops, people like that.
01:33:52.000And, you know, you're people that really do love America, so as a real patriot, you're actually fighting the new world order.
01:33:57.000Not all these fake conservatives that, like I was talking about during the break, they go to the gym and they walk around looking at everybody and acting tough and swaggering, but if somebody's violating their rights, they literally start peeing down the side of their leg.
01:34:10.000If somebody pushes them around, or the IRS does something, they crap their pants, and they live this life of cowardice to government, and they rationalize that the government isn't corrupt, and the government isn't bad, and they cower in fear of what their neighbors would think if they were to come out and fight the New World Order.
01:34:25.000And they, you know, we need you to be real men out there, and real women, and just stop being so stupid, and stop... I mean, you know, these good old boys will get mad if their neighbor parks in their parking space.
01:34:37.000But they could care less if somebody's putting sodium fluoride that eats holes in their brains in their water.
01:34:41.000I mean, Bob, you get the point I'm making?
01:34:43.000I completely understand the point you're making.
01:34:45.000And today in my store, we always talk politics in the store.
01:34:49.000A customer comes in, listens to us talking about the proposed terms of the bailout.
01:34:53.000And he just comes up to the front and he says, hey, they're not going to let those executives have any of that money.
01:36:05.000That's your problem, you know too much.
01:36:07.000Well, you've been around long enough to know my story.
01:36:09.000I saw when my dad came back one day from the IRS, he used to be talking about it, and he said, I've always paid, I have a CPA, and they sat across the table from him in Dallas, and they said, we're white-crawler criminals, we're going to take everything you have.
01:36:40.000They didn't even own this creek behind their house, but the city gave them $2,000 a day fines.
01:36:44.000While I was covering him doing this to other old people, my grandpa went back there, cleaned it out, had a heart attack, and basically later killed him.
01:36:50.000And so that's the kind of thing, I mean, you know, in America, you're not supposed to have some bastard from the city making your grandparents clean out city property so they can try to steal their house.
01:36:59.000Or you're not supposed to, I remember going to ranchers' and farmers' houses after I got on air, when the city was stealing it for environmental reasons, giggling and laughing that they were going to sell it all to developers later.
01:38:06.000They're in this to be studs and to be leaders.
01:38:09.000And they get sick of hearing Alex Jones' name.
01:38:12.000Hey folks, I'm not Bernanke taking your money.
01:38:15.000And that's what's wrong about this, is we're a nation of second-guessers.
01:38:19.000And it's fine to second-guess if you're on the field.
01:38:21.000But they're sitting up in the peanut gallery, bitching and complaining, and they haven't walked a mile, or a hundred miles, or a thousand miles in our shoes, Bob.
01:38:31.000I wish I could go back in time and get a hold of Of Paul Revere and Patrick Henry.
01:38:38.000Al-Qaeda Revere, according to the government?
01:38:39.000Paul Revere and Patrick Henry, and take a look at them and see whether or not you are both of those guys reincarnated.
01:38:48.000Bob, you need to quit being so nice to me, please.
01:38:50.000Oh man, I tell you what, you know... You know, it actually makes me feel bad, though, because I realize I'm not doing a good enough job, I don't work hard enough in this fight, and I'm just doing my... Well, here's another one, here's another one, Alex.
01:40:13.000But Bob, before we do that, there were some other things in your list.
01:40:16.000I mean, run through the gamut quickly of your points, because they're so good.
01:40:21.000The point is, in order to understand this, you have to understand that the powers that be are not trying to fix anything.
01:40:30.000If you think, like the press says, that they're trying to fix the economy, they're not trying to fix the economy.
01:40:36.000They're trying to affix themselves to your wallet, transfer all their bad debt to you, And abscond with the goods.
01:40:44.000If you think that the leaders of the House, the leaders of the Senate, the people in the Federal Reserve, the executive branch, Bush and crowd, you think they're trying to help you, you are so off base, you're never going to get it.
01:40:57.000I mean, even Ben Sargent, who we can't stand, you know, he's a cartoonist for the American Statesman.
01:41:03.000He draws some pretty good cartoons every once in a while.
01:41:05.000He had a cartoon the other day where you had this This used car salesman, which was the Treasury Secretary, trying to sell us used cars, as is!
01:41:16.000You've got to take the whole thing, and that's all there is to it, and this woman is looking at the used car salesman, and Bush is standing behind the used car salesman, and the woman says, aren't you the same guys that sold us the Patriot Act as is, and the Iraq War as is?
01:42:46.000I want to say that this, you know, back about three years ago I went to Baylor University for the New American.
01:42:51.000They were talking about this free trade of the Americas.
01:42:54.000And I was talking to the heads of the economics department at Baylor, the business school people.
01:42:59.000They had a little get-together before the conference.
01:43:02.000The head guys, the deans of the schools.
01:43:04.000And I was a reporter and I was talking to them about economics.
01:43:07.000That's when Lord Fox and Yeah, but that was after Fox.
01:43:11.000That was the follow-up meeting to that meeting in Baylor.
01:43:14.000And I was talking to him about economics, and I'm not an economist, but I mentioned that I believed in the Austrian school of economics, Ludwig von Mises, or whatever, von Mises, however you pronounce it.
01:43:26.000And these guys looked at me like they literally Hadn't even heard the term.
01:44:55.000Ted Anderson is in the Minnesota studio, but he is not coming to the microphone.
01:45:00.000I don't know why they have the studio in a separate room in the control room, but he's obviously on the cell phone or playing TiddlyWinks or something's going on.
01:46:12.000And people, I mean, just about everybody has a stake in either money in the bank, or they got money in the stock market, or they're looking at the annuities, or, I mean, you name it.
01:46:24.000I mean, there's so many different investments that are out there.
01:46:27.000You've got IRAs sitting in mutual funds, or you're sitting in... Well, Ted, I'm not going to trust gold and silver in my personal possession.
01:46:52.000We've exposed the This exposes the weaknesses and the manipulation of what the Fed's been doing, and now it's just hitting mainstream and everybody's waking up to this fact.
01:47:03.000And gold and silver is in short supply, so people should know, listening, that when the general public, I was going to say public, finally, fumbling public, finally figures this out, Katie, bar the door, you're not going to be able to probably get gold or silver at any price.
01:47:20.000I mean, that is a real potential we're looking at, Ted.
01:48:24.000You bought gold at what, and it's now being offered at what?
01:48:26.000Well, I mean, when we worked on it, it was trading right in that $8.79 range last Friday to $8.82.
01:48:33.000I can't remember exactly where it closed at.
01:48:37.000But I was able to accumulate a position at the same British Sovereigns I offered on your show on Friday at the same exactly price that I'm offering them today.
01:48:47.000Same with the French Franc and same with the Silver Coins.
01:48:50.000I mean, I'm holding that deal because I was able to get in there and do something.
01:49:12.000In the depression of the 1930s, we went through this deflationary depression because there was no way for the Federal Reserve System to get the money into the economy fast enough to replace the money that was being defaulted on.
01:49:27.000Every time there's a default in the economy, that money supply disappears.
01:49:45.000When inflation starts rising and the tax base starts to drop, And the United States Treasury is going to have to pay out unemployment benefits and all these different... No, no, the economy is wonderful and so long.
01:49:57.000Just hand over your firearms, everything will be fine.
01:50:51.000Government is best that governs lease.
01:50:54.000Uh, by the way, that Liberty sticker, I like them, but they took my 1984 to 1776, the answer 1984 to 1776, and they didn't, on their bumper sticker, didn't give me credit.
01:54:37.000What that is, is that's the Health and Compensation Act to take all of the dying first responders who are missing right now and give them a little bit of a platform to maybe survive.
01:54:46.000Yeah, and Congress keeps saying no to that because you can't give the firemen and police any help, you know.
01:54:51.000Hey, but listen, we got 219 Congressmen.
01:54:56.000In fact, Truth Rising, I should add, tells that story and shows that you guys valiantly in Congress with Kucinich and others fighting for that.
01:55:06.000The plug is, we've got to get on to loc.gov, find the congressman that didn't vote, yes, and call them, because we've got a couple of days, Congress is in session, we can get this thing passed.
01:56:09.000Well, I need to plug things, so that's what pays the bills, plus they're great products.
01:56:13.000In fact, speak of the devil, I'm just going to do that here at the end of the show.
01:56:16.000Bob Dacey, you know, go in there with Trey, and let's get you set up in about two weeks from now for two hours to come in and talk about all the stuff you're doing, because you're doing a lot.
01:56:24.000You have a lot of original research, and I got so ecstatic on that kind of trip, the endorphins in my brain, with the House voting this down, that I kind of got off skilter.