Jesse Ventura is a former Minnesota Governor and star of Hollywood alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger and many others, including The Predator and The Running Man. He is also working on a new TV show, The Revolution Without Me, which he is working on with Alex Jones. Jesse also talks about the $700 billion government bailout, the police state, 9/11, and much more.
00:01:10.000I guess the economy right now, of which I'm paying, I think all of us are paying attention to it, trying I guess to figure out The dilemma is does a bailout work or doesn't it work?
00:01:25.000You know, you hear two sides to the story and it certainly puts you in a predicament of picking the lesser of two evils, which means you're still picking evil.
00:01:37.000They are terrorizing the public with the President and others saying, do this or there'll be a depression.
00:01:43.000Stuff like that from a Treasury Secretary and a President itself is firing a theater.
00:01:48.000And then if you read the bailout plan, it gives them total immunity.
00:01:51.000It allows them to basically be separate from the government with no oversight.
00:01:55.000So really, I think the $700 billion itself is a distraction compared to the new powers it gives the Treasury.
00:02:01.000Okay, well, I'll trust you on that one.
00:02:04.000I've been involved in other things the last week or so.
00:02:07.000If that's the case, then I fully do not support the bailout.
00:02:12.000I think it's ridiculous because this bailout, if it indeed happens, should come with so many rules and regulations that it's as sound as anything you can imagine.
00:02:22.000You can't be just taking money and handing people blank checks and telling them to fix it, because that leaves virtually no accountability.
00:02:30.000It's kind of like how the war was run in Iraq.
00:02:42.000We have We have Henry Paulson, who still has a big stake in Goldman Sachs, directing tens of billions of dollars a week into his own company.
00:02:54.000Well, you know, I guess the best answer to that, Alex, is that we've forgotten that the Constitution today is a thing of the past.
00:03:02.000It's a document that doesn't exist anymore, which says there will be a separation of powers into three separate divisions.
00:03:10.000And as I look at the country today, I see that that isn't happening at all.
00:03:15.000You know, that we aren't a separation of power anymore.
00:03:18.000There seems to be no checks and balances whatsoever, which is what the forefathers tried to put in when they created the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, was that making it a system of checks and balances.
00:03:32.000The problem is we've allowed people... I mean, I kind of laughed the other day when I heard Ralph Nader refer to George Bush as King George.
00:03:57.000You know, this is a bailout of wealthy, and their argument is that these are the people that provide the jobs so that it will have a trickledown effect to all of us, which I have to assume there will be some correctness to it, but again, how do you bail out the top and trust what they're going to do?
00:04:19.000You know, clearly, I find it very interesting that the very people that wanted to deregulate everything are the ones now leading the socialist bailout.
00:04:31.000Governor Jesse Ventura will also talk about his book that's been on the New York Times bestseller list, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.
00:04:39.000He is our guest for the rest of the hour after this quick break.
00:04:52.000You know, clearly, I find it very interesting that the very people that wanted to deregulate everything Absolutely.
00:05:04.000Governor Jesse Ventura will also talk about his book that's been on the New York Times bestseller list, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.
00:05:11.000He is our guest for the rest of the hour after this quick break.
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00:05:49.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:06:12.000Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
00:06:19.000You know, as a father and a husband, one of the enjoyable things in my life has been walking in at night and checking on my children, checking up on my wife, making sure she has the things she needs, but mostly providing for my family and knowing that they're secure, that they feel comfortable every day in their little skins.
00:06:34.000They don't have to worry about the oddities of the world taking over and wrecking their lives.
00:06:38.000I've always wanted to be a good provider.
00:06:41.000And I'm not going to change that now just because the economy's in upheaval, and because there's a lot of political and social uncertainty, and I hear about global famines, and I see the escalating prices in gas and food and oil.
00:06:52.000Electricity's going to go way up, I'm told, this winter.
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00:07:58.000Governor Jesse Ventura is our guest for the rest of the hour.
00:08:06.000There's so many issues to be discussed and to talk about.
00:08:10.000But finishing up with the bailout, you know, the internationalists that run the banking system created these trillions in derivatives.
00:08:17.000They tied it to our bank accounts, our 401Ks.
00:08:20.000Now they're saying, come in and invest in this, or basically it's all going to implode.
00:08:26.000And these are the same interests that have all been moving offshore.
00:08:30.000And so, just in closing, any other thoughts on what's currently happening with the bailout that they are set to vote on in the Senate today, Governor?
00:08:39.000Well, you know, again, we have to watch.
00:08:42.000My thing to tell all the American people is be vigilant, man.
00:08:46.000If you're not holding people's feet to the fire, you're going to get bad government.
00:08:50.000And that's the problem in this country as a whole, is that we sit back, we live in our own little worlds, and we don't pay attention to what's going on with the nation.
00:09:00.000And then by the time it catches us, we're basically caught with our pants down because we haven't paid attention at all.
00:09:06.000You know, maybe the good thing that will come out of this whole bailout issue is that it will finally get the American people to rise up, take their heads out of the sand, and start paying attention, Alex.
00:09:19.000Yeah, I don't want to go back to ancient history, but I sure wish you were running for Senate.
00:09:23.000I don't blame you for not doing that, because you've got some other ways of getting the word out to the people staying in the fight, and we appreciate you not going back to Mexico to surf.
00:09:32.000We know that's probably quite beguiling, but let's get into the fact that you are doing a pilot, and I know you're doing some other stuff, but I don't know how far you can go, Governor.
00:09:44.000Well, I've got possibly two, three pilots in the hopper, but I always like to tell people that I don't discuss them in great detail until the first check clears the bank.
00:09:57.000That's because these are TV shows, you know, and I'll be straight out front.
00:10:01.000I do get paid when I do pilots like anyone else.
00:10:06.000You know, you've got to earn a living.
00:10:10.000But the pilot that we're doing now with the True TV Network, which is the formerly Cork TV, is going to deal with conspiracies.
00:10:20.000Conspiracies are fascinating to me for going on 20 to 25 years or better now, you know, starting off with the murder of John F. Kennedy and watching it evolve into everything else and now into the 9-11 conspiracies.
00:10:35.000So I think it's very intriguing stuff and even for people that don't believe or don't want to or whatever it may be, it's still very compelling and interesting and to me it's truly better than anything like Tom Clancy could write or anything like that because in many ways real life has more intrigue and mystery than what anyone could make up in their own minds and write it down as a fiction writer.
00:11:02.000You know, Alex, I have my own imagination, so I don't really need to see somebody else's imagination or read about it.
00:11:09.000But I do like, I love history, and it disturbs me greatly when history is not recorded correctly or if history is misled, because then generations from now, people will never get a clear picture over what went on And so, you know, delving into conspiracies, I think, is just great intrigue and great dramatic television.
00:11:33.000And not only will it hopefully inform you, hopefully will entertain you at the same time.
00:11:40.000Well, I know that the networks are very interested in this, because I've been approached many times with similar ideas by the networks, delving into the secret meetings, infiltrating them, basically exposing what's going on underneath the rocks of government and corporations.
00:11:59.000And I can't think of a better person than the former underwater demolition and Navy SEAL individual, and a former governor out there running around covering all of this.
00:12:12.000Wait, Alex, let's not cheat me either.
00:12:17.000Now that Sarah Palin's out there, I'm also a former mayor.
00:12:22.000And former radio talk show host and movie star and professional wrestler.
00:12:27.000Well, you know, that's going to be the intrigue of the show.
00:12:32.000As I said in the press release, you know, I've been a mayor, I've been a governor.
00:12:37.000Now I'm going to get a chance to be a detective and to be able to go seek out the truth and hopefully go question people and get some answers.
00:12:45.000I guess, you know, if I could... What's gonna happen in this show somewhat, I guess, for lack of any other better way to put it, I'm going to become somewhat of a Michael Moore of television, I guess, for this pilot.
00:13:16.000Alex, when I was going through underwater demolition training, when we got to second phase, which was land warfare and demolition, when I went through, I had an instructor back then during the demolition phase at San Clemente Island.
00:13:31.000And this instructor was a chief warrant officer, and he impressed me very strongly, with no reservations whatsoever, that there is no such thing as a dumb question.
00:13:42.000Especially when you work with demolition.
00:13:45.000Because not only can you kill yourself, you can kill your teammates along with you.
00:13:50.000And so, I've gone through life with that premise in mind, that there is no dumb question.
00:13:56.000A question certainly isn't dumb to someone if they don't understand it.
00:14:06.000Well, that's the way that I've gone through life, and that's what the essence of this TV show is going to be, simply that there is no dumb question, and every question deserves an honest answer to it.
00:14:18.000So, I'm going to be out and about asking some, you know, solid questions that I certainly don't consider dumb, and I don't think most people in America would either, and we'll see what kind of answers we can Well that's what I was going to say, is that that's what quote conspiracy theory is, is the mainstream media and the dominant corporate culture.
00:14:39.000Anytime you say, hey I think this bailout might not be a good idea.
00:14:43.000They've been calling that a conspiracy theory.
00:14:45.000Or, you know, I think that we need to question government more, or have more checks and balances, or there might be some corruption in government.
00:14:54.000So basically, Anybody questioning the official paradigm is called a conspiracy theorist.
00:15:02.000And we've seen the same thing, you know, going back to Galileo when he said that the Earth was orbiting the Sun, not the Sun orbiting the Earth.
00:15:11.000And is that what's so suspicious about 9-11?
00:15:14.000Is that you just ask questions and they stonewall and act so suspicious, Governor?
00:15:20.000Well, and to me, that's the question we're going to try to pursue.
00:15:25.000Why, if what they've told us is true, then, you know, there's that old quote, the truth will set you free.
00:15:32.000Well, why would you have any fear of telling the truth?
00:15:36.000Alex, I'd love to tell this story, if I may.
00:15:38.000When I was running for governor, at the time it was very much in the early part, where there were six or seven candidates and they were holding debates throughout the state of Minnesota.
00:15:47.000We're much different than Texas, where in Texas you get one debate.
00:15:51.000Up in Minnesota, generally, you might get 12 to 13 of them.
00:15:55.000And when we were at this one particular debate early on, we were seated alphabetical, so naturally I'm over on the far side.
00:16:04.000I'll never forget all the seven or eight other participants in the debate came in with stacks of papers and spin papers and all this stuff, and I sat down with nothing.
00:16:16.000And I remember there was a black woman, a civilian sitting to my left, and she quietly handed over to me a legal patent pen.
00:16:24.000And I looked at her and I handed it back and I said, no thanks.
00:16:28.000And she said to me, well, don't you think you'll need that?
00:16:32.000And I whispered back to her, I said, when you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory.
00:16:38.000And she looked at me and smiled and nodded.
00:16:40.000She fully understood what I just said to her.
00:16:43.000So in these debates, I didn't need all that stuff because in essence, every question I was going to be asked, I would simply tell the truth.
00:16:52.000And if you do that, you don't need a good memory.
00:16:55.000And so, that's what we're taking forward here, and people who will stonewall 9-11 will lie.
00:17:03.000If what you're saying is true, then simply tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may.
00:17:10.000Well, Governor, I mean, take the new NIST report.
00:17:12.000They have now retracted their previous five reasons Building 7 fell, that 47-story structure, for those that don't know, that was hit by nothing that day.
00:17:22.000And they've retracted that it was bad building construction.
00:17:26.000They have retracted that a fuel oil tank blew up and did it.
00:17:30.000They have retracted that the North Tower fell and gouged out 25% of the south face of Building 7.
00:17:36.000And now they're saying a new phenomenon.
00:17:38.000This is like seeing a leprechaun in your backyard.
00:17:43.000Thermal expansion did this with 1,200, 1,500 degrees.
00:17:48.000Cool fires made it symmetrically fall.
00:17:51.000So they're just counting on the public, not looking at the evidence.
00:17:54.000And I'm here to tell everybody, and I want to get your take on this, the new NIST report has completely and totally backfired on them.
00:18:03.000Well, the last report I saw, and correct me if I'm wrong, the last report I saw from them on Building 7 stated that they said that the fuel in the building, the diesel, was not responsible.
00:18:17.000They said the fire that destroyed the building was basically furniture and papers burning.
00:18:24.000Yes, and they say it's never happened before.
00:18:26.000That was their final line on the report that I saw, and Alex, I looked at it and started laughing.
00:18:33.000I thought, wait, how could they possibly?
00:18:35.000They're telling me that papers and furniture could cause a steel-structured, girdered building to uniformly collapse in seven seconds?
00:18:46.000Alex, if that's the case, then what is being done?
00:18:49.000Because clearly, in that era of time, when that building was built, there were probably hundreds of others built throughout our country and the world.
00:18:59.000Shouldn't there be steps taken to ensure public safety if merely a fire with furnishings and paper can cause the total collapse of a 49-story skyscraper?
00:19:17.000Federal agencies then put out new guidelines last month telling them to build buildings differently and major engineering firms and groups are now suing the federal government saying this isn't true, this isn't reality, and they're saying if this is the case then a BIC lighter would be able to burn down a building and we don't need controlled demolition companies anymore.
00:20:12.000Governor Ventura, I don't want you to go too far on the pilot.
00:20:15.000You told me some of it behind the scenes, and boy, let me tell you, is it going to be powerful.
00:20:19.000But the particular angle you're going to be going at, I think is very effective and hasn't been done yet, you know, even by a lot of alternative media, much less the mainstream.
00:20:32.000Well, you know, that's one of the things we're looking forward to, and I'm not going to spring it right now, because, you know, this is the mechanism we're going to go after it as.
00:20:41.000And I hope that it is, because one thing I've always been accused of, good or bad, is they've always told me when I was a mayor or governor that no matter what issue came up, that I always had a unique perspective on how I view an issue.
00:20:56.000And so, we're going after a little different perspective of 9-11 here, and I think it will be very entertaining as well as back-finding, and I think people are going to find it very, very interesting if we see the light of day.
00:21:12.000Alex, I've already warned every people, all the people that I'm working with at The True Network, I've warned them that I still give it only a 50-50 chance that this show will see the light of day.
00:21:25.000Well, I don't want to insert myself into the mix, but yeah, the exact same TV show was pitched to them right as it was turning into true TV.
00:21:33.000We even have the intro trailer to the pilot that was made.
00:21:39.000I never really talked about it on air because I figured it wouldn't see the light of day.
00:21:43.000But I think in the last year and a half, so much has changed, Mr. Ventura.
00:21:48.000And frankly, you bring a lot more gravitas than Alex Jones does.
00:21:50.000You know, movie star, governor, you know, all these other issues.
00:21:54.000I think I mean, I had the executives tell me at three different networks, including the one you're working with, and I know you're working with several others too, it's the same deal, and I had them tell me, they go, look, we know this is what people want, we know this will get ratings, but then from up above, you know, up above programming, even above, you know, the vice presidents, were the big money people saying, we're not going to have that anti-New World Order stuff on here, we're not going to legitimize it, and that's why the mainstream media is being delegitimized.
00:22:24.000Well, all I can say is my show coming up has nothing to do with the New World Order.
00:22:34.000Yeah, you know, this is just a case of, you know, there's a lot of questions that still loom out there, and we're going to give both sides of the issue.
00:22:45.000I want people to understand that, too.
00:22:48.000We're not just coming at this show with the perspective in mind that, okay, this is what we're going to promote, this is the way we're going.
00:22:56.000We are going to the people that, like at NIST, that do these reports, they will have the opportunity to defend what they say.
00:23:04.000And ultimately, it will end up the viewer.
00:23:07.000The viewer will see all things, and ultimately, the viewer will have to make up their own mind as to what they do or do not want to believe.
00:23:17.000Well, Governor Ventura, my whole point is this, to make it clear.
00:23:20.000I think this is an idea whose time has come, and I frankly can't think of a more perfect person than yourself, very imposing and intelligent, basically stomping around, going after bad guys and investigating things.
00:23:36.000Let me ask this, Alex, so everyone, all your listeners will be clear.
00:23:40.000Do you remember the great film, Philadelphia, with Denzel Washington and Tom Hanks?
00:23:46.000Yes, the film with... Where Tom Hanks is the lawyer who contracts AIDS, and then goes to Denzel, who's kind of this slipshod lawyer who advertises on TV that we always see, and seeks him out to defend him in this major, major case.
00:24:03.000Well, the part I took home from that more than anything is also the attitude I'm going to bring to this show, so that all your listeners will be clear on this.
00:24:13.000There's a scene in there where Denzel Washington turns and says these words.
00:24:18.000He says, explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old.
00:24:25.000He makes that statement, explain this to me like I'm a six-year-old.
00:24:29.000Well, that's the aspect I'm taking forward on this.
00:24:33.000Explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old, so that we will all be able to hopefully clearly understand what these people are talking about, because I think for the most part, most of us feel that if it were explained to a six-year-old, we would be able to grasp it.
00:24:51.000Let's talk about, you told me that it was great meeting Karen Johnson out in Phoenix when you were there visiting, when you went to the 9-11 truth event and spoke there.
00:25:03.000And I love the video of the media trying to attack you and you throw it right back at them and say, you explain it to me because the official story doesn't answer any of the real questions and even the 9-11 Commission says they weren't allowed to even do their job.
00:25:18.000Well, I'll tell you, there's some dedicated people is the first thing I want to say.
00:25:24.000Well, I'll tell you, there's some dedicated people is the first thing I want to say.
00:25:30.000You know, Senator Karen Johnson, to me, to me shows tremendous courage because she's a current elected official who is making no bones about the fact that she feels that the 9/11 investigation was completely botched and that there certainly should be a second investigation done, even though at this point in time it would be exceptionally difficult because, as I stated earlier, there's no evidence.
00:25:57.000So nobody can go there and get anything scientific you know, isn't made available to anybody.
00:26:04.000But the people out there are super dedicated people, and they're coming from all walks of life, which is the thing that I'm really noticing, and that really makes me feel good.
00:26:16.000Not only do you have a strong group of young people, whom you would expect, you know, I, I grew up in the 60s, so I know what it's like for young people to bolt from the status quo.
00:26:28.000I grew up in the generation that we used to say, don't trust anyone over 30.
00:26:35.000And, you know, so you've naturally got young people that are heavily involved.
00:26:40.000But then there are also professional people out there who are involved, people who you wouldn't expect to be involved, who have taken time and studied it a little bit.
00:26:50.000And I think that's really the thing that needs to happen in this country.
00:27:51.000Maybe it's because they don't want to believe anything else, but that isn't the attitude to have, and that's not going to do us any good, because, you know, you can stick your hole in the head, but it doesn't mean things are going to go away and they're going to be right.
00:28:04.000The only way that happens is by people being involved, paying attention, and doing a little detective work on their own, and understanding that you cannot trust the mainstream media today, and you cannot trust our government today.
00:28:20.000Absolutely, and it's the denial that there could be corruption or there could be a problem that has allowed the corruption to take over.
00:28:26.000History shows you're always going to have corrupt groups and criminal organizations and elites trying to take over and set up empires and abuse the average person's rights and liberty and property.
00:28:38.000And so to deny Alex, let me throw this out for a minute.
00:28:42.000that exists in history or in this country is the greatest folly, and we're about to reap the whirlwind on that front.
00:28:50.000Governor, we're going to break in a moment, and we'll get back on it.
00:28:53.000Alex, let me throw this out for a minute.
00:28:55.000The other thing I find so mind-boggling in this whole affair of 9-11 is the fact that we will so quickly believe that 19 Islamic radicals with box cutters could do what happened that day, but we totally throw out that us on the Christian but we totally throw out that us on the Christian side could never do something like that. - Okay.
00:29:18.000In fact, let's keep talking about 9-11, then I want to get into your book, and I want to talk about what's coming up in Austin with yourself and William Nelson and I, and a lot more, and maybe take a few calls at 1-800-259-9231.
00:29:51.000In fact, let's keep talking about 9-11, then I want to get into your book, and I want to talk about what's coming up in Austin with yourself and William Nelson and I, and a lot more, and maybe take a few calls at 1-800-259-9231.
00:30:43.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
00:30:49.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:30:53.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings in war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
00:33:26.000And Willie Nelson at the same time and a bunch of others that I'm not at liberty These are the stories you hear in Whispered Conversations.
00:33:32.000It blows me away that this is actually happening.
00:33:34.000But so Jesse doesn't think I'm kidding him.
00:35:00.000He asks the questions others won't consider.
00:35:03.000Have you been there for the ceremony with the cremation of Carys?
00:35:08.000Frankly, I don't think that's something I need to talk to you about.
00:35:11.000He explores the places others only talk about.
00:35:15.000You're beginning to sink deeper into the rabbit hole now.
00:35:17.000He takes us through the doors others won't enter.
00:35:21.000Okay, I'm beginning to imagine what we're going to discover.
00:35:33.000In this first ever adrenaline-fueled docudrama, Alex Jones uncovers America's darkest secrets.
00:35:40.000You need to answer real questions instead of lies.
00:35:43.000It is the X-Files, unscripted, all the more frightening, because it is real.
00:35:49.000Alright, it goes on from there, but Governor Ventura, what do you think of that?
00:35:56.000You got me hooked, I'm ready to watch.
00:36:00.000You know, my wife, last night I was telling her about this and she just got so excited.
00:36:04.000Frankly, I think you're going to do 20 times better because you're going to be the producer.
00:36:09.000And I know you don't want to give us too many hints, but if it gets picked up, what are some of the areas you're going to get into?
00:36:16.000Obviously, JFK, because isn't that what originally woke you up more than 30 years ago?
00:36:21.000Yeah, you know, there's certain aspects to the JFK murder that can still be looked at even today.
00:36:28.000There's certain things that could be done which could shed a great deal of light as to what went on, you know, 40 some odd years ago.
00:36:37.000You know, I have the tape of E. Howard Hunt saying he ran the operation.
00:36:42.000Well, there's things of that nature, but there's other stuff, too, out there that I will get into.
00:36:49.000But JFK, you know, it could lead us to many, many different things that, you know, people have questions about and that there are conspiracies of.
00:37:01.000You know, there's a lot of interesting things that deal around Scientology and that religion.
00:37:07.000Hey, how about you crash the Scientology church or crash Skull and Bones?
00:37:30.000I want to ask you something. - Skull and Bones, now that's like the secret society at Yale University?
00:37:36.000university yeah it's a homo erotic uh...
00:37:40.000germanic death cult where they well robert de niro got it right in his uh...
00:37:45.000the big film of the good shepherd and they do satanic rituals i've actually snuck into one of their meetings that they had separately in california the skull and bones that's what they do absolutely well isn't isn't george bush part of that Yes, it's very Christian.
00:38:08.000Well, let me tell you, Bohemian Grove that I snuck into, I'm sure you've heard of that in Northern California, the mainly right-wing Christian leaders go there and they bus in male prostitutes.
00:38:16.000I mean, I'm not... I know you're not attacking them either for their sexual preference, but why are they so hypocritical, Governor?
00:38:22.000Well, I don't know nothing about that, but it's hypocritical if it's true.
00:38:26.000I mean, Alex, sometimes you go to places that even I don't know exist.
00:38:31.000Governor, do you have a computer in front of you?
00:39:13.000Well listen, you know a lot about stuff I don't know about, and you're in a very powerful position.
00:39:18.000And kind of like two years ago when I gave you Terror Storm, I would love to just be an unofficial advisor and just, I mean, I could send you so much stuff that's admitted, sir.
00:39:28.000Well, like I said, we're going to do this first pilot, and then we go, let's get this one on the air, and once this one's on the air, hopefully we will be brought into series, and at that point we'll be looking for a lot more stuff to educate and entertain the people on.
00:39:45.000Well, I publicly groveled to Lord Ventura.
00:39:56.000Right now, my focus is to do this pilot and make it as good, entertaining, to give people knowledge and to make people question some things and give them enough facts to the ability to raise some questions and ask them and not be afraid to do it.
00:40:13.000We're supposed to be in a free country.
00:40:17.000We're supposed to have the First Amendment here.
00:40:20.000where we can talk, and again, and I know this has been said many times, but people need to always remember, the First Amendment is to protect unpopular speech, not popular, because popular speech doesn't need protection.
00:40:37.000Mark Twain said in the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot anymore.
00:40:46.000And you really are a great patriot, one of the biggest names to go public for 9-11, and it is becoming more and more mainstream thanks to you and so many others.
00:40:55.000What is it like to see the phenomenon of government-sponsored terror becoming more and more accepted, sir?
00:41:01.000Well, you know, we've got to wait and see.
00:41:04.000Let's see the chips fall and let's see the education take place.
00:41:11.000Hopefully that's what this show will help to do.
00:41:13.000As I said, I've got my fingers crossed that the courage will be there and that it will get on the air.
00:41:22.000The True Network, I think, has seen, somebody told me, 90 million homes today or 100 million homes.
00:41:39.000I mean, Jesse Ventura, conspiracy investigations, it doesn't get any better than that.
00:41:45.000Getting back into 9-11, there are so many facets to it, but some of the areas that they can't ignore is the White House lying and saying, we never heard of plans to fly planes into buildings.
00:41:55.000What gets me the most, Alex, is when I watch Condoleezza Rice testify at state.
00:41:58.000and had Operation Bojinka and other cases where things like this had developed.
00:42:03.000We also have the war games that morning, just like on 7th.
00:42:06.000What gets me the most, Alex, is when I watch Condoleezza Rice testify at the state, we had no idea they would take planes and use them as missiles into buildings.
00:42:18.000And then you find out that, yes, they did.
00:42:21.000They even had, as you said, practice things that that had happened within the government, and what would they do?
00:42:28.000How can they sit back and look at us and say they were so naive that they didn't have any idea that this type of situation could happen?
00:43:05.000Yeah, Governor, a lot of weird stuff going on here on our end, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence that somebody cuts our digital lines only when you're on the show.
00:43:15.000Well, maybe it's coming from my end, too, because, you know, I wrote about that in my book.
00:43:19.000You know, the house that I lived in at the time I was Governor, it turned out that there's pretty big, strong evidence that my lines were capped there.
00:43:30.000And after all, Alex, let's remember, our Democrats gave the President the ability to do that again.
00:43:35.000president the ability to do that again.
00:43:38.000When I was in Denver for the DNC, I was going to meet with Cindy Sheehan, and she was doing a big event with Ralph Nader, and I was invited to that.
00:43:48.000And I'm going to meet her, and when I meet with her, she goes, guess what I just caught?
00:44:10.000Well, you know, we have a system set up where, as the governor in your private home, they give you this red phone that, even if it's knocked off the hook, it will ring automatically the local police, who will come running, which is a good idea.
00:44:25.000You know, you don't even have to speak into it.
00:44:27.000If the phone is knocked off the hook, that sends a message right to the local police, and they're coming.
00:44:35.000But when they install that, We always had weird clicking on my regular phones and it was so bad it became laughable where my in-laws would automatically state, well, I guess if you're out there, we're talking again.
00:44:50.000And then when I ended being governor, we found a little transformer type thing out on my deck one day that a friend of mine said, who used to do that for the phone company when ordered to, said that that had something to do with, you know, a listening type device.
00:45:06.000And then the guys who came out to then rewire my phones back up after the red phone was taken out and all this other stuff, they came up just baffled.
00:45:17.000They said, we've never seen phone wiring like this in all the years we've worked on them.
00:45:22.000So that's all I can go on, Alex, is that it was a very strange situation, to say the least, my four years in office.
00:45:30.000Well, you know, you've told this story, but you never got into much detail here.
00:45:33.000Can you briefly get back into one of your first days at work?
00:45:37.000You go to the Capitol and there's 23 CIA people in your office, but they won't tell you who they are.
00:45:43.000They won't tell... Well, no, they weren't in my office.
00:45:49.000Yeah, and let's put it in the right thing.
00:45:53.000They requested, quote, requested that I come down and interview with them.
00:45:59.000You know, I don't want to say they ordered me to because there was no one that said I had to, but I, being former military and, you know, new to the job, I felt that I guess this is my obligation if the CIA wants to talk to me and I'm the governor of the state of Minnesota, I certainly should talk to them.
00:46:18.000So, when it arrived, I went down into the bowels of the Capitol, into this closed room, and I sat in a chair, and they were in a big half-moon circle around me.
00:46:29.000Let me also say, they were very professional.
00:46:41.000I guess the scariest thing about it, Alex, was this.
00:46:45.000As I looked around the room at these 23 people, I saw my neighbors.
00:46:51.000And what I mean by that is, you would never guess in your wildest dreams that these were CIA operatives, which is their job.
00:47:00.000So, obviously, they recruit and they do it very well, because some of the people I looked at would look like the old retired guy down the street that would sweep a step.
00:47:11.000Others were younger people, others were professionals, others were blue-collar.
00:47:16.000They came with an entire cross-section of what you'd call America.
00:47:25.000And then, of course, I was a little belligerent, being who I am, and I said before I answer any of your questions, I have a few for you.
00:47:34.000One of them was, I asked them why they were operational within the United States when When their orders are that they're not to be operational.
00:48:22.000And half would say at all what they did.
00:48:25.000If they did tell me what they did, how would you know that was the truth? - So how did it end? - It was much like when I went through Sears school, survival, escape, resistance, and evasion, when I was a frog man.
00:48:37.000Well, when they interrogate you there, my actual rate was storekeeper, which is supply.
00:48:42.000So I would tell them I'm a storekeeper, I work in supply.
00:48:45.000I hand out blankets and requisition parts.
00:48:49.000Although I was actually a Navy SEAL, never worked in supply at all.
00:48:53.000But in those days you had to go up in rank with a regular Navy rank.
00:50:07.000Because that's what their job is to do.
00:50:10.000Gather intelligence, present it to the government, so that the government can then make a determination in an educated movement on how they want to react to it.
00:50:19.000Well it's hard to believe, Governor, it's hard to believe that we are already right up to the final segment and I know you've got to go.
00:50:28.000Maybe I can twist your arm for five more minutes in the next hour so we have time to take four or five calls on the other side.
00:50:33.000Plus I want to get into the awesome events coming up and plug the book.
00:50:37.000We'll be back in three minutes with Governor Jesse Ventura.
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00:54:14.000for their descent and Let me tell you, the best part about my job is that I get to see people really wake up.
00:54:23.000To government-sponsored terror, to corruption, to so much, and to see people all over the planet waking up, and to know that we are on the real cutting edge.
00:54:31.000And that I get to associate with people like Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura, and the former German Defense Minister Andres Van Bielow, and the Italian President.
00:54:38.000Former Italian President's gone public saying it's an inside job.
00:54:41.000People like Bill Christensen, CIA Section Chief in Berlin, who says it's an inside job.
00:54:47.000Bob Baer, who says it's an inside job on this show.
00:54:51.000The guy that made Syriana about CIA black op commander.
00:54:54.000You know, we are going against the flow, but we're starting to turn people around and wake them up.
00:54:58.000Governor Ventura, your book has been on and off the New York Times bestseller list.
00:55:03.000If anybody hasn't gotten it, they need to get it in bookstores everywhere.
00:55:06.000Don't start the revolution without me.
00:55:08.000That said, I am looking forward to hanging out with you for a day and a half.
00:55:59.000In fact, I would tell you this and I hope I don't offend the rest of the Texans, but if I were to ever move to Texas, Austin would probably be the prime place where I would look because I love the blues and I love I love Stevie Ray Vaughan, and the whole Austin area down there is a magnificent area.
00:56:21.000It's fun to come and visit, and I'm looking forward to coming to the 26th.
00:56:24.000Well, if you like Double Trouble and the fabulous Thunderbirds, Jimmy Vaughan is going to be playing at the event, and he is a listener of the show.
00:56:38.000Yeah, Jimmy was up at the Ron Paul thing here.
00:56:42.000That's right, he told me about that, absolutely.
00:56:45.000Jimmy and I talked at the Ron Paul convention, the counter-convention up here in the Twin Cities at the Target Center.
00:56:51.000Well, it's a small world, and I'm just honored to be associated with people like you and Mr. Vaughn and others.
00:56:56.000God, it's exciting to be on the side of good.
00:56:58.000I feel sorry for those that are involved in corruption and bad, because I guess they don't have a conscience or they just don't care, because I love being part of the good guys.
00:57:23.000They paid their hard-earned dollars to get my butt kicked.
00:57:26.000Growing up in Dallas, watching you on TV, we liked you, and we were rooting for you to kick Hulk Hogan's butt.
00:57:32.000Well, you know, when you put it that way, Alex, then you're not always on the side of right and justice, because I know you're no one has to...
00:57:44.000Hogan was supposed to be the all-American boy, not me.
00:57:46.000No, you know, people understand that, that that's, you know, in the world of pro-wrestling, you're... And much like politics, I think they parallel.
00:57:51.000ever jesse but you know you're not really a villain so we know that was just having some fun people people understand that that's you know in the world of pro wrestling you're and much like politics i think they parallel i talked about this at harvard the fact that uh...
00:58:08.000what you play in the wrestling ring may be nothing like what you're like in real life And I think many of the politicians are that way.
00:58:15.000What they portray to you in public is nothing like they really are behind the scenes.
00:59:33.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
00:59:39.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:59:42.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:00:19.000I got a story about Building 7, why it collapsed.
01:00:21.000After Towers 1 and 2 collapsed, it felt so depressed it just gave up.
01:00:27.000Well, that's as good a conspiracy theory as the government story, Governor.
01:00:29.000I agree, you know, I haven't looked at that yet, but if there's any witnesses that heard that being said from the building, I'd sure like to hear about it.
01:00:42.000Well, even better than that, let me throw this one at you.
01:00:44.000Yeah, another thing, JFK's assassination, it's very telling that they lock up evidence for 75 years after the event.
01:01:11.000And he talked about the FBI guys came in, put his fingerprints on the gun, walked off, and then said on the news his fingerprints were on the gun.
01:01:18.000And then I was going to go back and interview him again, and he got ran off the road that day and almost killed at ninety-something years old, so now he can't do the interview.
01:01:25.000So this is not a joke, ladies and gentlemen.
01:01:35.000Okay, as an old Navy person like Jesse, you know, my father served in the Navy, my brother served in the Navy, I served in the Navy, my uncle served in the Navy, my other uncle served in the Marines.
01:01:46.000And his brother's Jackrabbit served in it.
01:01:49.000Yeah, my point is that, well, for one thing, I'm glad that Jesse's getting a new project started off with a more broader view of just our conspiracy theories so we can actually go through these things.
01:02:02.000One by one, and I hope it does take off on the ground.
01:02:06.000The other thing is that I'm glad other people are waking up, but you know, I've been doing this since 1979, just telling people, you know, getting the looks, getting the stares, you know, since I was in the Navy.
01:02:18.000So it's a hard road battle that we have to keep going, you know, and just not give up.
01:02:24.000Yeah, what about going the distance, Governor?
01:02:26.000I mean, you know, the truth will out if the good men stand up, won't it?
01:02:31.000Well, you'd like to believe that, Alex.
01:02:33.000You know, we live our lives believing those things, but I guess I'm a realist, too.
01:02:38.000I've already come to the realization that in my lifetime, the Minnesota Vikings will never win the Super Bowl.
01:02:45.000No, and I say that in the fact that you're fighting a very, very difficult battle here when you're fighting people that want to censor things and won't allow the truth to come out, and when they have the power to where they can take things, put them away for long periods of time.
01:03:06.000All of Rudy Giuliani's papers now are locked up for 25 years.
01:03:51.000I've got a pilot to get off the ground and possibly two more.
01:03:55.000And there's a whole lot of other stuff I could do in the next year or two before I would even entertain anything in 2012.
01:04:03.000And so next you're just going to be working on the pilot coming to Austin on the 26th in the backyard with Willie Nelson, myself, Jimmy Vaughn, and others.
01:04:10.000And then hopefully I'll be doing two more pilots and then at some point I will go to Mexico, Alex.
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01:11:02.000I'm trying to do stuff during the breaks, and it's just turned into a total insane asylum here at the office, but I'm exhausted after that interview.
01:11:17.000I've got another one coming up, but a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that I know that I can't tell anybody about.
01:11:25.000You've got the Depression coming on and all these neat things happening.
01:11:28.000For those of us in the fight against the New World Order, we're gaining so much ground right now, but also the enemy is just expanding.
01:11:35.000That's why we're gaining ground, because people are finally figuring out the reality of what we've been talking about for so long.
01:11:44.000Yeah, I have him in bug inventory with a lot of my videos and materials and stuff.
01:11:47.000He's already got a lot of them, but I need to just, I need to give him a crash course in all this stuff.
01:11:53.000Because he's a great guy, but, um, like with the bailout and a few things, he wasn't, you know, he didn't trust him, he wasn't for it, but he wasn't up to speed on a lot of it.
01:12:22.000Yes, you've been talking about neo-feudalism and I'm really starting to see the parallels now with what you're saying.
01:12:31.000You had a guest on there before talking about how these government agencies basically have put a letter of marque Honest, you know, and you think about like a cop or the Ministry of Transport, every time you go down the road, they're standing at the side looking for a handout.
01:12:48.000You know, it really does look like we're going back into, you know, imperial British rule to me.
01:12:55.000You know, things like these marine recruiting centers, they're nothing more than Oh, I meant to ask Ventura about the Army announcing they're going to use Northcom in regular operations against the American people.
01:13:15.000There were so many questions that I had mentally thought about, but forgotten to get to with Ventura on air.
01:13:25.000But I can have him in studio the Sunday he's here.
01:13:29.000Because the Willie Nelson doesn't go on stage until like 10.30 at night.
01:13:33.000We're giving our speeches at like between 9 and 10 and at the event and he's here all day.
01:13:38.000He comes in the day before that and I'm going to be taking him around town and he's staying basically with us but I need to get him on air and ask him questions like that because he's got a military background.
01:13:51.000A lot of people listen to Ventura that won't listen to me just because they know Ventura and don't know myself.
01:13:56.000But, no, I'm glad you bring that point up.
01:13:59.000Well, someone had asked him at one of his book signings when he was kicking around the idea of running for office, would he abolish the Federal Reserve?
01:14:04.000And he said, that'll get you a bullet in the head.
01:14:07.000I, you know, I understand because I'm not the one with the CIA target on my forehead.
01:14:12.000Yeah, Ventura, it knows a lot more than he lets on him there was pretty disturbing that they just surrounded in his office and i mean that you're just a group we've got all they are i mean i had people tried idolize it well what what they do is they wouldn't do it with ventura but with others other governors mayors they bring them shatchels for a hundred dollar bills and i've interviewed the san antonio police chief i tried to buy off other officials i tried to buy off
01:14:36.000There's a huge, covert, black-op government all around us, and that's evidenced by the former mayor of Minnesota, who kept quiet about it for many years and just now wrote about it.
01:14:46.000Alex, I wanted to ask you, do you have any information on the history of the symbol of the dollar?
01:15:29.000They know the history of the pound and the lira, but the dollar bill symbol just suddenly appeared at the beginning of your republic.
01:15:38.000And nobody really knows what the origins of it are, although they make some assertions it's associated with the Spanish, you know, gold bullion or something like that, which really doesn't make sense.
01:16:09.000I do want to know, like, what role did, like, he did have to do with, like, all the... Well, I shouldn't have said it loud and clear, because it's kind of hard to understand you now.
01:16:32.000Uh, I just wanted to ask you a quick question on history.
01:16:33.000Like, what, you know, what, uh, what kind of, what kind of role, like, African, African society played on, like, the, uh, the Freemasons and stuff?
01:16:54.000Yes, there are several branches of history, but you had esoteric ancient mystery religions based in the Tigris Euphrates in Babylon, based in the Nile Delta in Egypt, and based in Greece.
01:17:13.000And they basically all worshipped the planets, and they had similar names for the planets.
01:17:18.000And, you know, they had a God of the Harvest, and a God of the Sun, and a God of the Winter, and a God of the Crocodile, and a, you know, God of this and God of that.
01:17:26.000And they worshipped the reproductive cycle in the male and female reproductive organs.
01:17:32.000A dome, or capital, is worshipping a heaping stomach of a woman with a chastating baby.
01:17:39.000uh... the obelisk or towers are the male phallus or the male sexual organ member and uh... then that got passed on and then you had the dark ages that came after the fall of rome in four ten and before that the sacking and burning of alexandria and the library there and so one of the only groups that actually kept
01:18:08.000All of that written down and documented and had private libraries kept by the Levitical Guild or the Levitical Priest of the family of the tribe of Levi, a subgroup of the Hebrews.
01:18:24.000Or what is known as the Jews today, they kept all those ideas.
01:18:29.000And the Torah is the Old Testament, but then you have the Talmud and several other books that came after that, that are kind of like the Orthodox Jews New Testaments, separate from the Gentile New Testament, and in those you just see codified The history of Babylon, Greece, Egypt, and those ideas, systems of governing, systems of mathematics, things that were very, very valuable, propaganda tricks that had been learned.
01:19:00.000And so that's why our entire culture is, I'd say more than 80% of it, orbits around Judaism,
01:19:09.000I mean, that's where Christianity comes from, that's where the Masonic Halls come from, that's where all these basic systems come from, because only the Jews had the most complete records of governing systems and systems of control than all the other esoteric religious stuff, that before they had their own monotheistic system, but then later in their history they adopted, at least in their oral traditions and written traditions,
01:19:40.000The entirety of pre-Christian history.
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01:19:58.000And so, people wrongly say that all of your Masonic systems are Jewish mysticism.
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01:22:42.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
01:22:49.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:22:52.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:27:24.000He's not running off to Mexico for half a year like he normally does.
01:27:28.000Again, we can have him in studio coming up to Sunday the 26th, but that's a little too much for us to go to the show and then drag him over to do the speech.
01:28:36.000And I'm probably, if the show goes, I was kind of begging the question on air, we've already talked, I might end up being the Igor sidekick.
01:32:35.000I was shocked when I discovered I could be inhaling these additives that can lead to coughing, wheezing, and shortness of breath, headaches, nausea, irritation of the skin, and mucous membrane.
01:35:11.000Monday night, and I listened to you talking about Obama and what they want to do here in Missouri, being as I am from Missouri.
01:35:18.000I tried to tell my sister-in-law about that last night, how they're wanting to stifle freedom here in Missouri, and anybody who makes any kind of derogatory comments in writing or on the news media about Obama.
01:35:29.000She absolutely went completely ballistic, Alex!
01:35:33.000She said, where did you get that from?
01:35:36.000And I said, well, I heard it on the radio when this Alex Jones even had comments in the Kansas City News.
01:35:44.000And she just completely left me and said, all that is is nothing but barroom talk.
01:35:52.000Well, it was on a bunch of TV stations there.
01:35:55.000They had the sheriffs and prosecutors on there saying that if you talk bad about Obama and they decide that it's a lie, they're going to come arrest you.
01:36:02.000And now they backed off and apologized in the newspapers yesterday, so I didn't even cover it.
01:36:07.000But I mean, I guess she thinks that The bankers aren't trying to cheat us either?
01:36:13.000I mean, I guess Obama's trying to... Well, Alex, let me tell you something, my friend.
01:36:17.000These people are, like you're always saying, they're living in complete denial.
01:36:21.000They are dumbed down from years of watching the news media, and all they think about watching on TV is Comedy Central or Jimmy Kimmel, poking fun of all this.
01:36:31.000As far as I'm concerned, these comedians, they're no better than our federal government or Wall Street.
01:36:39.000I've been watching more TV lately, more news, and they have the men and the women just smiling with these fake smiles, and just fluffing everything.
01:36:49.000And then the comedians, you'd think, are actually criticizing the politicians, but they're making it a joke!
01:36:57.000I mean, that's why I could have played the clips of Sarah Palin sounding ten times stupider than Miss South Carolina, but we never did it because It makes for good radio, but it's not a laughing matter.
01:37:09.000Joke, Alex, when you were talking to one of your callers there Monday night, I can't pick you up very good during the daytime anymore, but one of your callers was advocating cutting the TV cables, and my friend, you done wise by telling people not to get involved with violence.
01:37:25.000The time of violence, Alex, as far as I'm concerned, is already here.
01:37:29.000The people in Columbia, Missouri, crime is just completely skyrocketing out of control, Albert.
01:37:55.000Look, we had a well-behaved, orderly Christian nation on average back in the 1920s and in the 30s.
01:38:02.000Today, if we have a real depression, which it looks like is a foregone conclusion, you're not going to worry about the New World Order and the police.
01:38:09.000The demonic public, the yuppies particularly, are going to be just, look out, Katie, bar the door.
01:38:16.000Well, they have these churches completely dumbed down to you, Alex.
01:38:19.000They turn these churches into nothing but country clubs, sir.
01:38:24.000Well, it's on record that the Feds secretly pay 26,000 preachers to give anti-American speeches and tell people to turn their guns in.
01:38:32.000Yes, we all know all about that, Alex.
01:38:58.000Well, you know, the sad thing about it, you were talking, you were talking to one of your guests on there, the guy that was talking, Deacon Chapman, is that his name?
01:39:09.000He is a very smart individual, but I'll tell you what now, if it ever comes down to what he's at, you know, was talking about guerrilla warfare and all this, I live right down, not too far from Whiteman Air Force Base.
01:39:54.000The troops, mainly, although they're hiring illegal aliens and felons, are on our side.
01:39:58.000A lot of the police in major polls, and we've covered those yesterday with Colonel Roberts on air, are actually on our side.
01:40:04.000They had a poll like a year ago, a major national one, where 99% of police said they were pro-Second Amendment and wouldn't confiscate guns.
01:40:12.000So, by and large, as I get a little bit more wise, it's the corrupt system.
01:40:18.000By and large, the police aren't even the big problem, though they're where the rubber meets the road.
01:40:22.000They do a lot of really bad things under orders, and some of them are a bunch of right-head nuts.
01:40:27.000But they're not... a lot of them aren't stupid.
01:40:31.000Or if they were stupid, they'd get street smart working on the streets, and they know a scam when they see one.
01:40:36.000The problem is, the military predominantly will not fight back against the American people if things break down.
01:40:43.000You know, they may try to maintain order, but if things turn into a shooting war, or arrest people, put them in FEMA camps, that's going to break down pretty fast.
01:40:51.000They tried to use New Orleans for a few years as a laboratory of that.
01:40:54.000The problem is, things will break down, and people will be starving to death, and they will beg to turn their guns in for food.
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01:46:22.000All right, so Hegelian Dialectic, basically what it is is they guide us into a crisis or conflict that lead us to some sort of predetermined solution.
01:46:33.000So what I'm seeing with respect to this bailout is I'm listening to media and I'm talking about alternative media, patriotic media, mainstream media.
01:46:42.000I'm starting to hear noise about replacing the system.
01:46:45.000The system is dead, we've got to replace it.
01:46:48.000And their answer is a global government run by the bankers, the very people that engineered it.
01:46:53.000Well, I'm not hearing... I always listen to the media carefully.
01:46:56.000And I'm not hearing... You mean the mainstream TV or the financial publications?
01:47:24.000And they want to bring in a new monetized Mero with the regional currencies, and you'll have to have a national ID card to track your carbon credits, which they're now announcing.
01:47:34.000So if I could read, I just have a little quote out of a book I've also heard you mention many times by the Club of Rome called The First Global Revolution.
01:47:48.000I mean, it really tells you everything there.
01:47:49.000You might have to read it 20 times, but that tells you everything you need to know.
01:47:53.000Here's a very short quote, if I can read it.
01:47:57.000Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead.
01:48:03.000Democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead.
01:48:07.000The complexity and the technical nature of many of today's problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time.
01:48:18.000They're telling us, our Congress, and the people are too stupid to make decisions about their financial future.
01:48:23.000And they know the public thinks in 24-hour news cycles, and so the public, some of them, I'm glad to say the majority aren't being fooled, now think that Congress caused the stock market to plunge 700 points, and now believe this is all a new problem, and then they have the other lie that it was all caused by subprime mortgages, which then again blames the public.
01:48:45.000So if democracy is inefficient and can no longer, is no longer... Sir, Richard N. Haas, in the same Club of Rome documents, says we'll use fake environmentalism to take their rights and stage terror.
01:48:56.000I mean, these guys are... I mean, you could take the quote from David Rockefeller about how we, you know, don't want people running their own countries, we want bankers running it.
01:49:16.000And then the PR population thinks that the big Texas oilman, Boone Pickens, is putting up air-powered deals in the panhandle of Texas and into other states.
01:49:29.000But really, it's all about grabbing the water supply.
01:49:47.000Okay, so for those people out there, and I know a lot of people you mentioned, I try and get through this material that everybody brings up, at least try and scan it, and we got Carol Quigley's Tragedy of Hope.
01:49:58.000The big thousand page plus monster that who can get, I can't get through it.
01:50:03.000What I found was Cleon Skousen wrote a nice little hundred and fifty page summary of that book called The Naked Capitalist.
01:50:11.000Which really summarizes what Quigley was saying in his book.
01:50:14.000Explaining that the bankers created communism and fascism as consolidation combines.
01:50:21.000It really goes through all the main points that Quigley was trying to make.
01:50:24.000So for people, if you can find it, it took me quite a while to find the Navy Capitalist.
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01:52:18.000Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
01:52:25.000The enemy struck America on September 11th.
01:52:42.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
01:52:49.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:52:52.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:53:04.000Get the DVD at InfoWars.com or see it in super high quality along with hundreds of other titles at PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:53:11.000Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
01:53:19.000Attention, this is an extremely urgent self-reliant news bulletin.
01:53:23.000If you have ever wanted to produce your own cheaper-than-dirt survival food, this is going to be the most important message you will ever hear.
01:53:31.000This network has just learned of a new video course that reveals the secrets of how to safely prepare and store all types of survival foods in an event of social unrest and food shortages here in the U.S.
01:53:42.000Grain shortages and hunger are spreading across the globe.
01:53:45.000Will troops guard the food supplies in the U.S.
01:54:41.000Everything that super-rich collectivists do must be accomplished in an atmosphere of propaganda and deception.
01:54:47.000Otherwise, they keep running into a groundswell of resentment and resistance as they try to compel middle-class Americans to give up their independence Their property and their constitutional prerogatives.
01:55:24.000They want to create revolution, violence, and extremely serious social dislocation at the bottom, while simultaneously creating an ever-increasing pressure at the top for monolithic powers by demanding that the executive branch of a federal government be given massive power to, quote-unquote, solve all these problems.
01:55:44.000I mean, we're watching this happen as we speak.
01:55:49.000The executive branch is trying to, this is about a power grab more than it is about money because they're already spending the money.
01:55:55.000So what we're seeing here, you read these quotes, we're seeing this being enacted as we go through this.
01:56:07.000Now I hear you, and you're absolutely right, and that's the historical fact, and that's what we try To get people to think about here, and I appreciate your call, Scott.
01:56:17.000Bernard, Steve, Mark, Mike, Kevin, and others, our next guest is only going to be with us for 20 minutes.
01:56:23.000That's why on InfoWars.com, on the audio streams, and for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, we're going to go back live like we did with Jesse Ventura earlier.
01:56:32.000We are going to skip the five after break.
01:56:34.000Everybody else will be back after that.
01:56:36.000So we'll have a five-minute segment when our guest is scheduled to be calling in in the next five, six minutes.
01:56:41.000And then we'll come in with them and skip that segment, that break.
01:56:45.000And so we have a full 20-something minutes with our guest today.
01:56:49.000So I'm excited about that because more and more we see people really breaking the left-right paradigm and getting the big picture.
01:57:02.000We're also going to continue with phone calls the last 40 minutes of the show, and get into the latest economic developments, what's happening with the stock market, what's happening with commodities, oil, gold, silver, today as well.
01:57:16.000And the Senate is set at 7 o'clock Eastern tonight to vote on the quote, bailout package.
01:57:21.000Now again, as the caller said, the money isn't even a big issue.
01:57:31.000But compared to the fact that they want to get immunity, and compared to the fact that they want to give even more power to the Treasury, and the fact that they have the mainstream media trying to bully the American people into going along with this, this is not going to save the economic system.
01:57:53.000And so we do live in very, very, very interesting times right now.
01:58:01.000And we've, you know, people that understand that this is not, quote, capitalism.
01:59:44.000Well, we really do have an icon, we really do have an icon, not just a cult icon of martial arts and Hollywood films not just a cult icon of martial arts He's also an author, political activist, a real conservative.
02:00:12.000And I tell you, he's been getting even more hardcore against the things that threaten the Constitutional Republic.
02:00:43.000I don't want to waste any time with any more introduction.
02:00:45.000He is one of the few people that doesn't need one, kind of like Jesse Ventura, the governor on with us last hour, coming down to an event I'm putting on, Willie Nelson, coming up later this month on the 26th.
02:00:55.000Chuck Norris, it is great to have you, sir.
02:01:16.000You know, it's so complicated, Alex, you know, and unless you really delve into that to find out exactly what it's going to do, it's a very difficult situation to determine.
02:01:26.000And I just hope If they do pass the bill, that it's not in vain.
02:01:31.000We're not going to waste another trillion dollars unnecessarily.
02:01:37.000I'll tell you, that's why I wrote this book.
02:01:42.000I really did a lot of research because I am so worried, like so many people in America are, about the future, about the direction our country's heading economically, and our national debt, and immigration, and all these issues we're facing.
02:01:56.000You know, and doing all the research on this book here, and finding out that the Founding Fathers had a vision for America, and it was not corrupted by greed and power.
02:02:08.000And the politicians are so disconnected from the will of the people.
02:02:13.000We've got to do something about it, Alex.
02:02:18.000That's why in this book here, I just give eight major problems America's facing.
02:02:23.000And I give my own common sense solutions to solving these problems.
02:02:26.000You know, the first chapter deals with the, I believe we've forgotten our roots and have drifted from the principles and belief that our country is founded upon.
02:02:34.000You know, and then the second chapter is about our national debt, you know, and then the third one is about our nation's borders and the illegal immigration and going all the way down to them.
02:02:43.000I think we lost our moral compass in America, the evaluation of human life, feeling of our children, and actually I talk about our health problems also.
02:02:53.000You know, I think we have a huge serious health problem here in America.
02:02:57.000Yeah, you talk about the trans fats and other chemicals in the food.
02:03:01.000I mean, even if you try to be healthy and eat that stuff, you're going to get sick because it's deadly.
02:04:25.000And a good example of that is in 2005, I went researching this book, I found out in 2005, over 6,000 taxpayers, making over $250,000 a year, paid absolutely no taxes.
02:04:38.000So we have a broken system here in the country.
02:04:40.000In fact, it was unconstitutional until 1913 to even tax our people, and then in 1913 we had the 16th Amendment that made IRS legal.
02:04:51.000Well, Chuck, I know you're very well educated, because I know a lot of Dallas police and state police and folks that know you, who years ago, before I ever actually confirmed it, said that you were aware of some of the work that I do and Ron Paul and others.
02:06:02.000But the thing is, when I was in Korea, Alex, we have hundreds of orphanages over there in Korea.
02:06:09.000And so America was sending over thousands of dollars in food, aid, medical and money And only 10% of what was sent over there reached the orphanages.
02:06:22.00090% went into the pockets of corrupted politicians over there.
02:06:25.000Well, remember after 9-11, when even the Red Cross and others and United Way got over $5 billion, and then they said every dime would go, but then they kept half of it, and then gave some of the money to gun control groups.
02:07:10.000The problem we face is we get different rhetoric from the two parties, but when it comes to action, and I know you're a loyal person and been quite a bit loyal to the Republicans.
02:07:18.000Because at least on their platform they were better, but I mean, that's what I'm saying.
02:07:23.000What's your take on how both political parties now seem to be going in one direction, you know, 91% of the American people in Gallup polls want to control our borders, or 70 plus percent don't want to be in Iraq, or on and on and on, or 90% don't want the bailout.
02:07:41.000You know, truthfully, when the Republicans were in control of the Congress in those first six years of Bush's, you know, they ran us into the ground.
02:07:54.000So the Democrats said, well, we'll change everything.
02:08:07.000And like you heard, Alex, if I had one wish, to give me one wish, I'd like to line up all the members of Congress and have Ron Paul walk with me down the line and say, OK, which one's corrupted?
02:08:23.000And the ones he points to as corrupted, I'll just choke them unconscious and stick them into a pile.
02:08:29.000You know, kind of an off-center joke for me.
02:08:32.000Well, I saw that in the Cleveland Plain Dealer and he said, I'd keep sticking them in a pile, piling them up so the martial arts star, who at 68 looks as young and buff as in his Walker, Texas Ranger glory days, the ones that are honest, they stay.
02:08:49.000And that's my next point, and you get into some of this in the book, but you say that you're aware of some of the things I cover and what Ron Paul gets into.
02:08:57.000Chuck, a lot of conservatives listen to you.
02:09:00.000I'm aware like you are, or like I am, that the party has been taken over by these multinational corporations, by the foreign lobbyists, by the special interests.
02:09:09.000I was asking you about the Globalist, the New World Order, the North American Union, the Army Times.
02:09:14.000I know you're a big supporter of the military.
02:09:16.000But if we support the military, we've got to keep them doing jobs that are constitutional.
02:09:20.000They're announcing NORTHCOM is now going to have active-duty brigades in the U.S.
02:10:35.000That's the problem is that they're given these unfunded federal mandates.
02:10:40.000They're not allowed to do their constitutional jobs, like control the borders.
02:10:43.000And we have 800-plus sanctuary cities that are bankrupting the city, county, state governments.
02:10:48.000And then the police go out and squeeze and squeeze with asset forfeiture, seizure, and things that violate due process.
02:10:55.000And most of the police I talk to personally, they don't like what's happening, but they're basically being given these orders.
02:11:01.000I mean, are we coming to the time When we need more and more police organizations to say no to unconstitutional actions like, are you aware, because it hasn't gotten a lot of attention, not just gun confiscation in New Orleans, the governor, who needs to be impeached in Illinois, a month ago, and I can play the clip if you want to hear it, said that they want to use the National Guard for gun sweeps and gun confiscation in the entire state of Illinois.
02:12:03.000I mean, he said, "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people.
02:12:08.000It's an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives." I really believe the government is dominating our lives, Alex.
02:12:15.000I believe that they are dictating everything that they feel we should do, rather than us dictating to the government what should be in our best interest.
02:12:37.000a few months ago, my wife and I, and we walked into the House chamber, and here's 435 congressmen They're screaming at each other across the aisle.
02:12:48.000And I'm watching this, I can't even hear myself think, and they're screaming about some bill.
02:12:52.000And I'm thinking, here's 435 congressmen looking like 8th graders, screaming at each other, and not getting anything resolved.
02:13:02.000And finally the House Speaker said, OK, that's enough, time out.
02:14:05.000And we're going to bail ourselves right into bankruptcy in our country.
02:14:09.000Chuck, a lot of people respect you on both sides of the aisle.
02:14:12.000The American people, I mean, everybody I know loves Chuck Norris.
02:14:15.000And for people listening, I know you're a smart guy and I know you try to hold back and be an even-headed guy and be restrained.
02:14:22.000But tell us, here in this interview with the six minutes we've got left, Bottom line, what you think the individuals could do, because we know the foreign interest have seized Washington, both parties.
02:14:33.000I know you know that they're hiring felons for the military, illegal aliens for the military.
02:14:38.000They're turning mercenary forces loose that are now not even based in the U.S.
02:14:43.000They signed a deal earlier this year for NORTHCOM to use Canadian and Mexican troops in the U.S.
02:14:47.000If you're not aware of that, I can give you the mainstream stories.
02:14:50.000Congress has been told they're not involved in that.
02:15:11.000But, you know, the thing is, what I'm really concerned about is our people in America who work week to week and make a living from paycheck to paycheck.
02:15:21.000And all of a sudden that becoming, you know, where they can't live from paycheck to paycheck.
02:15:26.000That's why I'm so in favor of the fair tax concept, Alex, because the thing is there's $13 trillion in offshore accounts.
02:15:34.000You know, that's where the super rich are hiding their money.
02:15:37.000And so if we had a fair tax, the super rich could bring their $13 trillion back into our economy and give our economy a huge boost.
02:15:45.000The 3 million manufacturing jobs that are being outsourced to other countries They can all come back because they're not going to be taxed to death.
02:15:52.000You know, we got income tax, employment tax, capital gains, estate, corporate property, social security.
02:16:05.000I have to say with this book, it is, I don't want to say eclectic, but it's a great mix of health, patriotism, ways to fix America.
02:16:14.000It also gets, you know, some into your Martial arts history and before you leave in about four minutes, I just want to bring it up now or my listeners will kill me.
02:16:23.000Just a few words from you about what it was like actually knowing Bruce Lee and being his best black belt and then starring in films with him.
02:16:32.000Well, you know, Bruce and I became good friends.
02:16:34.000He was back in New York when I won the world title in 1968.
02:16:37.000And then, you know, we started working out together in L.A.
02:16:41.000and then he left for Hong Kong to pursue his movie career.
02:16:44.000I didn't hear from him for a couple of years, and then he called me out of the blue and said, Chuck, I've done two movies and they're really successful.
02:16:50.000I want to do a movie now with a fight scene in the Colosseum in Rome, and I'd like for you to be my opponent.
02:16:57.000So kiddingly, I said, well, Bruce, who wins this fight?
02:17:05.000You want to beat up the world champion, huh?
02:17:07.000He says, "No, I want to kill the world champion." But you know, I have to tell you-- - Who would have really won?
02:17:12.000I mean, no holds barred. - I don't know, I was a professional fighter.
02:17:16.000But the thing is, Bruce was an incredible martial artist.
02:17:19.000And you know, you never want to say you could do something unless you proved it, you know.
02:17:23.000But I have to tell you, I've done 23 movies and 203 episodes of "Walker, Texas Ranger" and I've never gotten one encouraging review in all the years I've done in the entertainment world.
02:17:35.000Now I write a book, but I felt patriotism, and I've got three five-star ratings.
02:17:39.000One moment, Laura Berenger wrote, not being a huge Chuck Norris fan, I wasn't sure what to expect.
02:17:45.000Having just finished it, I have to confess that I was quickly drawn in and captivated by the contents of the book, and actually pleasantly surprised by its insight, depth, research, genuineness, Practicality and motivating nature.
02:17:58.000This is not just another political diatribe.
02:19:51.000Listen, I'd like to get you up some time for 45 minutes or so to take calls, and just in closing, I didn't know that you'd... I mean, I've been told by some police years ago that you were aware of stuff, and they've given you some of my films.
02:20:02.000I didn't know if that was the case, but you have heard the show before?
02:20:05.000Oh, yeah, I did, yeah, because I've been in Austin quite a bit.
02:20:09.000And so, you know, I catch your show when I'm down there.
02:20:12.000What do you overall, I mean, I'm trying to get your view overall of the types of things I talk about are a real conservatism.
02:20:18.000Yeah, I tell you, what you're talking about, Alex, is right on.
02:20:22.000I mean, we got some serious issues in our country, and you're addressing them, and that's what I appreciate about your show.
02:20:28.000You do address the issues that we're facing right now, and a lot of people aren't aware of it.
02:20:34.000That's the problem, you know, and that's what's good, is that you're Keeping people abreast of the problems we're having in our country.
02:20:40.000Well, I know you've got more interviews coming up.
02:20:41.000There's no chance of keeping you over.
02:21:05.000You know, I lean conservative, but I'm an independent guy.
02:21:09.000So am I, but that's what I'm saying is that even though I've disagreed with a few people you've supported or a few things you've done, I've known your heart was right, and I've known you've known things that I didn't have from my perspective, and so I've just always known that you were a good guy and against the globalists, and I would just love to have you... You know, I tell you what, I'm only two hours away from you.
02:21:29.000My ranch is right near College Station.
02:21:32.000And so I'm only a couple hours away, so one day, Gene, and I'll drive down.
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02:24:01.000I was talking to Chuck Norris during the break.
02:24:04.000A little bit of a matter going on on the web, but we cut it off.
02:24:07.000Point is, I forgot to add, and he wanted me to add, that 100% of the proceeds that he's getting, his 20% or whatever, from the publisher, goes to his Kickstart Foundation for children.
02:24:20.000And I know that's a good foundation he has.
02:24:22.000He's really into having real charities.
02:24:24.000You heard him attacking charities that don't actually do what they say they're going to do.
02:24:28.000But, I mean, this is just his book sale, and so this is a pure charity, kind of like Paul Newman and his foods.
02:24:36.000I had that in my stack, you know, quotes about him, you know, by him saying, hey, I don't see myself as a philanthropist or some kind of angel.
02:24:43.000I believe you need to put back into the soil what you take out.
02:24:46.000But, yeah, Black Belt Patriotism really is a great book.
02:24:50.000And Chuck Norris is wanting to support the Republicans because he thought they were better than the Democrats.
02:24:55.000Now he's really waking up, and he's a supporter of Ron Paul, and he told me off-air and on-air that he's been listening to the show for years, and then he said we ought to get together sometime, and people like him don't just say that.
02:25:18.000I mean, because what's exciting to me is if I just had Chuck Norris on, talking about just Bruce Lee or himself, or just talking about movies, that'd be interesting, but that's not what the show's about.
02:26:22.000And especially when they write a great book like Black Belt Patriotism, and then getting people like Chuck Norris to be on the show and supporters of the show, people like Jesse Ventura, Willie Nelson, Charlie Sheen, Richard Linkletter.
02:26:59.000Point is, I know Tommy's listening every time I mention him.
02:27:03.000Anyways, and I had him on, and he just starts going off with, hey, I gave your videos, you know, Terror Storm and Martial Law to To Bruce Willis, when they were making a movie here together in Austin, and Bruce came back a month later and said, I'm totally woken up.
02:27:22.000I'm no longer for the Republicans or the Democrats.
02:27:29.000And Michelle Malcolm, the same one that said the Marines didn't throw the puppy off the cliff, and that I was a liar, and the same one that had her minions try to set me up in Denver and failed there again miserably.
02:27:56.000Bruce Willis is on vacation, Turks and Caicos, in a fishing boat, does an interview with Vanity Fair, and says the same people that killed Kennedy are running things down, and basically 9-11, involved with 9-11, and I'm not involved in any of the parties anymore, and they're all evil.
02:28:13.000I mean, Bruce Willis was like the number one front for the neocons, and he was not a bad guy.
02:28:18.000And let me tell you, this guy was about number two.
02:28:44.000And then that woke him up, and then his son brought him Loose Change 2nd Edition, and that made him go public, and he went public on this show.
02:28:50.000And I had him on about his book, and he just says during a break, he says, now let's talk about 9-11.