In this episode, we continue our series on election fraud from the primary election in Florida and recount in New Mexico. Beth Harris and her organization, BlackBoxVoting, is dedicated to exposing election fraud in every county across the country. They are fighting to make sure that every election is fair and free from election fraud.
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00:01:19.000Let's break down the rest of the story.
00:01:24.000As they say, people can find out more at blackboxvoting.org.
00:01:29.000They can also go to Amazon and other places and buy the great film, Hacking Democracy.
00:01:33.000If you don't have HBO, it's airing every couple days on HBO.
00:01:36.000Watch it and understand it's far worse than even that film covers.
00:01:40.000But again, we need more Americans like Beth Harris and her cohorts going out digging through the trash.
00:01:46.000Always finding bad stuff at these voting systems companies, at the counties where the voting's happening.
00:01:51.000Go through the fraud we saw in the primary, what you see it building up to now, other facets, other areas we haven't gotten into, and then most importantly, solutions.
00:02:00.000I mean, the positive news that I've got for everybody here today is this.
00:02:09.000Ten years ago, you'd see polls, almost no one thought there was election fraud.
00:02:13.000Now, over 90% in major polls say they know it's a fraud.
00:02:17.000And so the good news is, the establishment is not selling the lie that they're not engaging in an orchestrated takeover.
00:02:23.000So before you leave us, let's get into that, or you can tackle that positive thing now, but let's continue to expose what's happening, where you see things going, and then, as I said, solutions.
00:02:33.000Yeah. Well, every election that we've looked at, we've found Let me put it this way.
00:02:39.000The best scenario we find is that we have to disclaim any opinion on the results because there's not enough information and it's not even gettable to find it.
00:02:54.000And in many situations where we go in, we see actual fraud.
00:03:01.000But if we don't get control of this situation, it's going to be like inoculating it so that it gets more and more resistant to citizen oversight, where they'll get better at it and they'll be more skillful.
00:03:13.000You know, we still see things where they have gigantic typos in the wrong date on the memory tape, pull tapes that they rig, you know?
00:03:20.000There's a tape that they had in Volusia County in 2004 where they accidentally did a typo while they were rigging the tape, and they dated it 16,000 years in the future.
00:03:30.000You know, and you still see a lot of that now, where it's just so clumsy, you can't believe it.
00:03:35.000But, trust me, they're going to get better at it, and they're going to get more skilled.
00:03:39.000And so, we have to ultimately take back control of the whole process, or it's just going to be harder to catch.
00:03:48.000Like any criminal, you know, they learn from their mistakes.
00:03:52.000In New Mexico, I was mentioning earlier, with the voter list, they simply handed out the wrong voter list.
00:04:01.000Voter lists missing lots of names, and then afterwards said, oops.
00:04:38.000The people sign off on certifying the election, and because they couldn't figure out what the numbers are, the canvassing board signed off on blank pieces of paper.
00:04:49.000I mean, these people need to go to jail.
00:04:52.000You know, I mean, we would not get away with it.
00:04:55.000Imagine sending in a form to the IRS and just leaving it blank and signing it.
00:04:59.000And saying, well, I didn't know the numbers, so I signed it.
00:05:03.000You know, it's ridiculous what we put up with.
00:05:07.000But, yeah, pretty much everywhere you look, you find these...
00:05:13.000You find things that you certainly can't explain, and they're completely not acceptable, or You can't even find the information because it's hidden.
00:05:23.000So, the question you asked is, what can we do about it?
00:05:27.000Well, we have a system that we're going to be putting out this election.
00:05:33.000We put the first video out this weekend, this last weekend.
00:05:39.000And it is the first effort to really get citizens in the field on election night Looking for things, because one of the things that kind of gets my goat is people call me up and they say, you need to research this, and you need to investigate that.
00:05:54.000And I'm thinking, you know what, America?
00:05:58.000If you don't get out there and do the same kinds of things that I'm doing, I'll help you.
00:06:32.000And then you would get back four or five days signed after the election what was clearly, as an auditor, a fake computer tape Right.
00:07:02.000to the warehouse where it's held, and you catch them with the trash running out suspiciously weeks later, right when you pull up to throw it away, you grab it away, they say no, the bag rips open and it's all gone.
00:07:24.000Not only in terms of date, but they had different votes on them.
00:07:28.000That's what I was about to say, is that not only are they giving you a fake tape, you go and catch them and basically tackle them like in a movie, and there are the real tapes showing it was an election fraud.
00:07:39.000I mean, and then they look so guilty when you're back at the central area.
00:07:46.000Yeah, and the thing is, Um, if we get out in the field and if we...
00:07:51.000What I'm telling people to do this election is, if you're already a credential observer or you're already a poll worker, take another 30 minutes, take a snapshot or a camera and get evidence of what that poll tape result was before it ever left the polling place.
00:08:09.000Now, if you are not a credential observer and not a poll worker, these things are supposed to be put on the building For a few hours.
00:08:18.000They're supposed to stay there for 24 hours, but they usually stay there for 6 or 8 hours.
00:08:22.000So even after the polls close, get your video camera, spend 90 minutes.
00:08:26.000Don't just sit in front of the TV and think, well, Bev Harris is going to get it.
00:08:30.000Because I'm telling you right now, I'm not going to get it.
00:08:32.000I can't be in all those places at once.
00:08:35.000And we're not going to pull this over the tipping point with just Bev Harris.
00:08:40.000We've got to have citizens out there and just tell yourself, You know, instead of sitting in front of the TV, I'm going to spend 90 minutes out in the field, I'm going to grab my camera, and I'm going to get copies of what these things were before they were posted.
00:08:52.000Hey Bev, I've had crazy listeners sue me twice saying, I didn't sue this government person, or I didn't do this investigation.
00:09:00.000I don't just have them calling me up and emailing me saying, I better do this and that.
00:09:04.000I have them, and of course it gets thrown out, suing me because I'm not doing enough.
00:10:19.000It's the videotape taken by an Austin citizen, Kathleen Wynn, in Ohio, in that tape, Hacking Democracy, that resulted in two women being sent to a year and a half in prison.
00:10:42.000Well, Kathleen Wynn, she went up there, and she was asking questions about this recount they did, and she asked how they chose the random poll of the 3% of the precincts, and they said, our random is our random.
00:10:57.000Which, of course, is a violation of state law.
00:11:00.000Well, they selected it, and they made sure that what they selected was specific areas that happened to match, as opposed to all the other areas.
00:11:10.000And then, when those matched, they said, OK, no more recount.
00:12:07.000What they say is, There's no basis for confidence in the results.
00:12:12.000We disclaim any opinion on the accuracy.
00:12:16.000In other words, if you can't see it, then the only proper response is to disclaim any opinion on the accuracy and to declare that there's no basis for confidence.
00:12:32.000Vicki Karp and others here in Austin, Texas.
00:12:34.000She heard my show I guess four or five years ago.
00:12:36.000Yeah. Or longer and we were covering election fraud and she didn't really believe it but she went and checked into it and found out that it was true and now she's had a big effect and there's so many other people out there taking action.
00:12:48.000What are some other things people can do in this election?
00:14:23.000There's something wrong with this system.
00:14:26.000And the New York Times, you can't get more mainstream than that, interviewed a member of the Election Assistance Commission, you can't get more government than that, and the Election Assistance Commission admitted, we will be voting on machines that are defective.
00:14:41.000And the New York Times even wrote, and it can't be fixed before the election.
00:14:46.000But by the way, they're spinning it that they're defective.
00:14:50.000No, they're doing what they're meant to do, carry out organized, secured, sequestered fraud.
00:14:58.000And for folks that think that this just started 10 years ago or 8 years ago in 2000, before After the election, you would hear, well, wait a minute, this county really went for this person, or this state really went for that person, but Voter News Services, the secretive...
00:15:11.000Group of top media people, they would just announce who had won, and over and over again it was fraud, and then that was proven.
00:15:20.000And so because the public was exposing that, that made them move in with these military industrial complex front companies, that's who they are, with young CIA guys with shaved heads guarding the facilities, and that's who it is.
00:15:32.000I've talked to the Colliers and their daughter and others, and I've seen it myself.
00:15:35.000And so they tried to move in with something they could control easier.
00:15:38.000People think, well, it's just the touchscreen or the purely electronic that are built for somebody to hack in and change 5,000 machines in 60 seconds or whatever, as they're designed to do with no record.
00:15:54.000This has been going on a long time, and that's why you can have, on every issue, the people 80-90% against both parties You know, you can have 1,000 calls to every call for the bailout, but still they pass it, because the system and the politicians, and I've talked to high-level ones, they know.
00:16:17.000I mean, we have to, unfortunately, get past our rosy and happy view of what we thought we were, because we aren't.
00:16:26.000And then, we have to do what Americans are so good at, which is roll up our sleeves and tackle this monster, and make sure that we get control back.
00:16:43.000It's not about what candidate gets in.
00:16:45.000We have to take back control, or we will always be at the mercy of You know, some magical, some candidate who comes and waves a magic wand.
00:17:00.000And, you know, I've had the idea for more than a decade to have paper ballots, and the way you get that is you sign a petition to, you know, basically bring it to a vote at the city council, at your level.
00:17:16.000And in there you have it funded to have this special election be done with paper ballots.
00:17:21.000And so then it's funded, and then you watch it, and then everybody goes out and monitors for fraud, and it'll be there.
00:18:16.000And be able to have the courage to look.
00:18:19.000And that's why I want people out in the field on election night.
00:18:22.000And by the way, you will be told that you can't videotape.
00:18:25.000So what you do then is you videotape them telling you you can't videotape.
00:18:30.000And you say, why are you hiding the information?
00:18:34.000And then you put it on YouTube and you show there, you know, anybody who tells you you can't get evidence of your own election needs to be exposed.
00:18:43.000Well, also, state and federal laws say that you can videotape, and the press is supposed to have access to that.
00:18:49.000But bottom line here, final segment of Bev Harris coming up, they know that we know.
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00:23:14.000And people, they tell me not to laugh about the ridiculous stupidity, unbelievableness that we see.
00:23:22.000I feel like, you know what, if you don't, if you can't laugh, and you can't have the courage to look, you can never solve the problem.
00:23:29.000So it actually is just, you know, doctors in an emergency room sometimes laugh too, because otherwise they lose their sense of balance.
00:23:38.000And by the way, one other thing, if folks cannot get out in the field, don't have a video camera.
00:23:45.000You know, we don't do this often, but I will tell you that black box voting won't be around for another four years if we don't get Yeah, it's not cheap.
00:24:07.000I was about to say, for me to just make a film and fly four or five places with two or three people, I mean, this is, even staying in hotels that aren't that nice, it is bankrupting.
00:24:19.000And go to blackboxvoting.org, buy the books, buy the videos, she's written books and put them out for free.
00:24:25.000We have this tendency to give it out for free, and because it's free, people don't even appreciate it.
00:24:55.000We need you to support what we're doing, because it's very expensive to do this radio show.
00:25:00.000It's very expensive for her and what she does, and absolutely, at the end of the day, I want to thank everybody that has supported Bev Harris.
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00:26:14.000That film exposes the fact that the government carried out the attacks, and if you call that negative, that's fine.
00:26:19.000You know, there's nothing I can do here other than tell you it's the facts, and we're not safe.
00:26:24.000You can deny it all day, but they still carried out the attacks, and they're still in power, and they're going to carry out other crimes, like controlled financial implosions and other things.
00:28:00.000I guess the economy right now Well, let me throw in my two cents.
00:28:27.000They are terrorizing the public with the president and others saying, Okay, well, you know, I'll trust you on that one.
00:28:54.000You know, I've been involved in other things the last week or so.
00:28:57.000If that's the case, then I fully do not support the bailout, and I think it's ridiculous because this bailout, if it indeed happens, should come with so many rules and regulations that it's as sound as anything you can imagine because you can't be just taking money and handing people blank checks and telling them to fix it because that leaves virtually no accountability.
00:29:20.000It's kind of like how the war was run in Iraq.
00:29:27.000We were lied to about Well, you know, I guess the best answer to that, Alex, is that we've forgotten that the Constitution today is a thing of the past.
00:29:52.000It's a document that doesn't exist anymore, which says there will be a separation of powers into three separate divisions.
00:29:59.000And as I look at the country today, I see that that isn't happening at all, you know, that we aren't a separation of power anymore.
00:30:08.000There seems to be no checks and balances whatsoever, which is what the forefathers tried to put in when they created the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, was that making it a system of checks and balances the problem is We've allowed people.
00:30:24.000I mean, I kind of laughed the other day when I heard Ralph Nader refer to George Bush as King George.
00:30:48.000You know, this is a bailout of And their argument is that these are the people that provide the jobs so that it will have a trickled-down effect to all of us, which I have to assume will be some correctness to it.
00:31:04.000But again, how do you bail out the top and trust what they're going to do?
00:31:10.000You know, clearly, I find it very interesting that the very people that wanted to deregulate everything are the ones now leading the socialist bailout.
00:31:21.000Absolutely. Governor Jesse Ventura will also talk about his book that's been on the New York Times bestseller list, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.
00:31:29.000He is our guest for the rest of the hour after this quick break.
00:31:52.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
00:31:59.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:34:56.000There's so many issues to be discussed and to talk about.
00:35:00.000Finishing up with the bailout, you know, the internationalists that run the banking system created these trillions in derivatives.
00:35:07.000They tied it to our bank accounts, our 401ks.
00:35:09.000Now they're saying, come in and invest in this, or basically it's all going to implode.
00:35:15.000And these are the same interests that have all been moving offshore.
00:35:19.000And so, just in closing, any other thoughts on what's currently happening with the bailout that they are set to vote on in the Senate today, Governor?
00:35:28.000Well, you know, again, we have to watch.
00:35:31.000My thing to tell all the American people is be vigilant, man.
00:35:35.000If you're not holding people's feet to the fire, you're going to get bad government.
00:35:39.000And that's the problem in this country as a whole, is that we sit back, we live in our own little worlds, and we don't pay attention to what's going on with the nation.
00:35:49.000And then by the time it catches us, we're basically caught with our pants down because we haven't paid attention at all.
00:35:56.000You know, maybe the good thing that will come out of this whole bailout issue is that it will finally get the American people to rise up, take their heads out of the sand and start paying attention, Alex.
00:36:08.000Yeah, I don't want to go back to ancient history, but I sure wish you were running for Senate.
00:36:12.000I don't blame you for not doing that because you've got some other Well, I've got possibly two,
00:36:36.000three pilots in the hopper, but I always like to tell people that I don't discuss Great detail until the first check clears the bank.
00:36:46.000That's because these are TV shows, you know, and I'll be straight up front.
00:36:50.000I do get paid when I do pilots, like anyone else.
00:37:00.000But the pilot that we're doing now with the True TV Network, which is the formerly court TV, is going to deal with conspiracies.
00:37:07.000Because conspiracies have fascinated me for going on 20 to 25 years or better now, starting off with the murder of John F. Kennedy and watching it evolve into everything else and now into the 9-11 conspiracies.
00:37:23.000So I think it's very intriguing stuff.
00:37:27.000And even for people that don't believe or don't want to or whatever it may be, it's still very compelling and interesting.
00:37:35.000And to me, it's truly better than anything like Tom Clancy could write or anything like that.
00:37:42.000because in many ways real life has more intrigue and mystery than what anyone could make up in their own minds and write it down as a fiction writer.
00:37:51.000You know, Alex, I have my own imagination, so I don't really need to see somebody else's imagination or read about it.
00:37:58.000But I do like, I love history, and it disturbs me greatly when history is not recorded correctly or history is misled because then generations from now people will never get a clear picture over what went on.
00:38:14.000And so, you know, delving into conspiracies, I think is just great intrigue and great dramatic television.
00:38:22.000And not only will it hopefully inform you, hopefully will entertain you at the same time.
00:38:29.000I know that the networks are very interested in this because I've been approached many times with similar Similar ideas by the networks, delving into the secret meetings, infiltrating them, basically exposing what's going on underneath the rocks of government and corporations.
00:38:48.000And I can't think of a better person than the former underwater demolition and Navy SEAL individual and a former governor out there running around covering all of this.
00:39:03.000Wait, Alex, let's not cheat me either.
00:39:06.000Now that Sarah Palin's out there, I'm also a former mayor.
00:39:09.000Absolutely. And former radio talk show host and movie star and professional wrestler.
00:39:17.000Well, you know, that's going to be the intrigue of the show, as I said in the press release.
00:39:24.000You know, I've been a mayor, I've been a governor, now I'm going to get a chance to be a detective and to be able to go But going after harder issues?
00:39:54.000I'm going to go ask questions, people, and I think my credibility precedes me to where they can't take me lightly, and I'm going to go simply ask questions.
00:40:04.000And Alex, when I was going through underwater demolition training, when we got to second phase, which was land warfare and demolition when I went through.
00:40:13.000I had an instructor back then during the demolition phase at San Clemente Island, and this instructor was a chief warrant officer, and he impressed me very strongly, with no reservations whatsoever, that there is no such thing as a dumb question, especially when you work with demolition.
00:40:54.000Mainstreet. Simply that there is no dumb question, and every question deserves an honest answer to it.
00:41:07.000So, I'm going to be out and about asking some, you know, solid questions that I certainly don't consider dumb, and I don't think most people in America would either.
00:41:18.000And we'll see what kind of answers we can get from people.
00:41:21.000Well, that's what I was going to say, is that that's what, quote, conspiracy theory is, is the mainstream media and the dominant corporate culture.
00:41:28.000Anytime you say, Hey, I think this bailout might not be a good idea.
00:41:32.000They've been calling that a conspiracy theory.
00:41:35.000Or, you know, I think that we need to question government more, or have more checks and balances, or there might be some corruption in government.
00:41:43.000So basically, anybody questioning the official paradigm is called a conspiracy theorist.
00:41:50.000And we've seen the same thing, you know, going back to Galileo, when he said that the Earth was orbiting the sun, not the sun orbiting the Earth.
00:42:00.000And isn't that what's so suspicious about 9-11, is that you just ask questions and they stonewall and act so suspiciously?
00:42:07.000Well, and to me, that's the question we're going to try to pursue.
00:42:14.000Why, if what they've told us is true, then, you know, there's that old quote, the truth will set you free.
00:42:21.000Well, why would you have any fear of telling the truth?
00:42:25.000Alex, I'd love to tell this story, if I may.
00:42:27.000When I was running for governor, at the time, it was very much in the early part, where there were six or seven candidates, and they were holding debates throughout the state of Minnesota.
00:42:36.000We're much different than Texas, where in Texas you get one debate.
00:42:40.000Up in Minnesota, generally, you might get 12 to 13 of them.
00:42:45.000And when we were at this one particular debate early on, we were seated alphabetical, so naturally I'm over on the far side.
00:42:53.000And I'll never forget, all the seven or eight other participants in the debate came in with stacks of papers and spin papers and all this stuff, and I sat down with nothing.
00:43:05.000And I remember there was a black woman, a civilian sitting to my left, and she quietly handed over to me a legal patent pen.
00:43:13.000And I looked at her and I handed it back and I said, no thanks.
00:43:17.000And she said to me, well, don't you think you'll need that?
00:43:21.000And I whispered back to her, I said, when you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory.
00:43:27.000And she looked at me and smiled and nodded.
00:43:29.000She fully understood what I just said to her.
00:43:32.000So in these debates, I didn't need all that stuff because, in essence, every question I was going to be asked, I would simply tell the truth.
00:43:40.000And if you do that, you don't need a good memory.
00:43:43.000And so that's what we're taking forward here.
00:43:47.000And people who will stonewall 9-11 Well, Governor, I mean, take the new NIS report.
00:44:01.000They have now retracted their previous five reasons Building 7 fell, that 47-story structure, for those that don't know, that was hit by nothing that day.
00:44:11.000And, uh, they've retracted that it was bad building construction.
00:44:15.000They have, uh, retracted that a fuel oil tank blew up and did it.
00:44:19.000They have retracted that the North Tower fell and gouged out 25% of the south face of Building 7. And now they're saying a new phenomenon.
00:44:27.000This is like seeing a leprechaun in your backyard is a new phenomenon.
00:44:31.000Never before seen, thermal expansion did this with 1,200, 1,500 degrees, uh, cool fires made it symmetrically fall.
00:44:40.000So, They're just counting on the public, not looking at the evidence, and I'm here to tell everybody, and I want your take on this, the new NIST report has completely and totally backfired on them.
00:44:52.000Well, the last report I saw, and correct me if I'm wrong, the last report I saw from them on Building 7 stated that they said that the fuel in the building, the diesel, was not responsible.
00:45:06.000They said the fire that destroyed the building Yes!
00:45:13.000And they say it's never happened before.
00:45:15.000That was their final line on the report that I saw.
00:45:18.000And, Alex, I looked at it and started laughing.
00:45:21.000I thought, wait, how could they possibly?
00:45:24.000They're telling me that papers and furniture could cause a steel-structured, girdered building to uniformly collapse in seven seconds.
00:45:35.000Alex, if that's the case, then what is being done?
00:45:39.000Because clearly, in that era of time, when that building was built, there were probably hundreds of others built throughout our country and the world, shouldn't there be steps taken to ensure publicization Well, let me tell you.
00:46:05.000federal agencies then put out new guidelines in the last month telling them to build buildings differently, and major engineering firms and groups are now suing the federal government saying this isn't true, this isn't reality, and they're saying if this is the case, then a Bic lighter would be able to burn down a Bic lighter.
00:46:31.000I said that from day one when I read this.
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00:50:48.000Well, the part I took home from that more than anything is also the attitude I'm going to bring to this show, so that all your listeners will be clear on this.
00:51:04.000Gosell Washington turns and says this word.
00:51:08.000He says, explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old.
00:51:13.000Yes. He makes that statement, explain this to me like I'm a six-year-old.
00:51:18.000Well, that's the aspect I'm taking forward on this.
00:51:22.000Explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old.
00:51:25.000So that we will all be able to hopefully clearly understand what these people are talking about.
00:51:30.000Because I think for the most part, most of us feel that if it were explained to a six-year-old, we would be able to graduate.
00:51:38.000aspect. Well, I want to get more into 9-11.
00:51:40.000Let's talk about, you told me that it was great meeting Karen Johnson out in Phoenix when you were there visiting, when you went to the 9-11 truth event and spoke there.
00:51:52.000And then I love the video of the media trying to attack you, and you throw it right back at them and say, you explained it to me, because the official story doesn't answer any of the Well, I'll tell you, there's some dedicated people is the first thing I want to say.
00:52:19.000Senator Karen Johnson, to me, shows tremendous courage because she's a current elected official who is making no bones about the fact that she feels that the 9-11 investigation was completely botched and that there certainly should be a second investigation done, even though at this point in time it would be exceptionally difficult because, as I stated earlier, there's no evidence.
00:52:46.000So nobody can go there and get anything scientific.
00:52:50.000You know, it isn't made available to anybody.
00:52:53.000But the people out there are super dedicated people, and they're coming from all walks of life, which is the thing that I'm really noticing and that really makes me feel good.
00:53:05.000Not only do you have a strong group of young people whom you would expect.
00:53:10.000You know, I grew up in the 60s, so I know what it's like for young people to vote from the status quo.
00:53:17.000I grew up in the generation that we used to say, don't trust anyone over 30. You know, I remember that famous quote.
00:53:24.000And, uh, uh, you know, so you've naturally got young people that are heavily involved, but then there were also professional people out there who are involved, people who you wouldn't expect to be involved, who have taken time and studied it a little bit.
00:53:40.000And I think that's really the thing that needs to happen in this country.
00:53:45.000I had a guy the other day just look at me and smile and he's at the golf club and he said, I don't believe any of that conspiracy stuff.
00:53:53.000And I looked at him and I said, well, what knowledge do you actually have?
00:53:57.000What have you done to study it at all?
00:54:00.000Are you simply going on what the television has told you and what the government has told you and you just blindly accept that today?
00:54:08.000And this guy was a Vietnam veteran, Alex.
00:54:10.000I would expect him to be a little bit more cynical, you know, in light of the fact that I don't know.
00:54:44.000That isn't the attitude to have, and that's not going to do us any good, because, you know, you can stick your hole in the head, but it doesn't mean things are going to go away and they're going to be right.
00:54:53.000The only way that happens is by people being involved, paying attention, and doing a little detective work on their own, and understanding that you cannot trust the mainstream media today, and you cannot trust our government today.
00:55:09.000Absolutely, and it's the denial that there could be corruption or there could be a problem that has allowed the corruption to take over.
00:55:16.000History shows you're always going to have corrupt groups and criminal organizations and elites trying to take over and set up empires and abuse the average person's rights and liberty and property.
00:55:27.000And so to deny that any of that exists in history or in this country is the greatest folly, and we're about to reap the whirlwind On that front, Governor, we're going to break in a moment, and we'll get back on air.
00:55:43.000Okay, Alex, let me throw this out for a minute.
00:55:45.000The other thing I find so mind-boggling in this whole affair of 9-11 is the fact that we will so quickly believe that 19 Islamic radicals with box cutters could do what happened that day, but we totally throw out that us on the Christian side could never do something like that.
00:56:08.000In fact, let's keep talking about 9-11, then I want to get into your book, and I want to talk about what's coming up in Austin with yourself and William Nelson and I, and a lot more, and maybe take a few calls at 1-800-259-9231.
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01:02:37.000because it is a real all right it goes on from there but uh...
01:02:43.000uh... governor and her what do you think of that europe you've got the work that ready to walk you know my wife last night i was told her about this and she's got so excited because i i have frankly i think you're going to do twenty times better because you're going to be the producer and i know you don't want to give us uh...
01:03:00.000i mean too many hands but but even gets picked up i mean i what the water some of the areas you're gonna get into obviously jfk Isn't that what originally woke you up more than 30 years ago?
01:03:11.000You know, I have the tape of E. Howard Hunt saying he ran the operation.
01:03:32.000Well, there's things of that nature, and then there's other stuff, too, out there that I will get into.
01:03:38.000But JFK, you know, it could lead us to many, many different things that, you know, people have questions about and that there are conspiracies of.
01:03:51.000You know, there's a lot of interesting things that deal around science.
01:04:23.000Now that's like the secret society at Yale University.
01:04:26.000Yeah, it's a homoerotic, uh, Germanic death cult where they, well, Robert De Niro got it right in his, uh, Uh, big film, uh, The Good Shepherd, and they do satanic rituals.
01:04:38.000I've actually snuck into one of their meetings that they had separately in California.
01:04:44.000The skull and bones, that's what they do?
01:04:46.000Absolutely. Well, isn't, isn't George Bush part of that?
01:04:54.000That's what I'm trying to figure out, how can that be Christian?
01:04:57.000Well, let me tell ya, Bohemian Grove that I snuck into, I'm sure you've heard of that in Northern California, Well, I don't know nothing about that, but it's hypocritical if it's true.
01:05:20.000Governor, do you have a computer in front of you?
01:05:53.000You better let me just stick to what I know about and focus on that.
01:05:57.000If you get me off track with all this other stuff, I won't know whether I'm coming or going.
01:06:01.000I know, well listen, you know a lot about stuff I don't know about, and you're in a very powerful position, and kind of like two years ago when I gave you Terror Storm, I would love to just be an unofficial advisor, and just, I mean, I could send you so much stuff that's admitted, sir.
01:06:17.000Well, like I said, we're gonna do this first pilot, and then we go, let's get this one on the air, and once this one's on the air, Hopefully we will be brought into series and at that point we'll be looking for a lot more stuff to educate and entertain the people on.
01:06:34.000Well, I publicly groveled to Lord Ventura.
01:06:45.000Right now, my focus is to do this pilot and make it as good, entertaining, to give people knowledge and to make people question some things.
01:06:56.000Give them enough facts to the ability to raise some questions and ask them and not be afraid to do it.
01:07:03.000We're supposed to be in a free country.
01:07:06.000We're supposed to have the First Amendment here, where we can talk and again, and I know this has been said many times, but people need to always remember, the First Amendment is to protect unpopular speech.
01:08:29.000I mean, Jesse Ventura, conspiracy investigations, it doesn't get any better than that.
01:08:34.000Getting back into 9-11, there are so many facets to it, but some of the areas that they can't ignore is the White House lying and saying, we never heard of plans to fly planes into buildings when there had been hundreds of government drills and plans, and they'd even had Operation Bojinka and other cases where things like this had developed.
01:08:52.000We also have the war games that morning, just like on 7th.
01:08:57.000What gets me the most, Alex, is when I watch Condoleezza Rice testify in state.
01:09:03.000we had no idea they would take planes and use them as missiles into buildings.
01:09:07.000And then you find out that yes, they did.
01:09:10.000They even had, as you said, practiced things That that had happened within the government and what would they do?
01:09:19.000How could they sit back and look at us and say they were so naive that they didn't have any idea that this type of situation could happen?
01:09:31.000I'll tell you what insults my intelligence.
01:09:33.000I'm in Austin, Texas, the main networks in Burnsville, Minnesota, and we have problems about three times a year, and it's when we have somebody big like Jesse Ventura.
01:09:42.000In fact, the last time it happened was when he was on, and you probably can't hear it, Governor, but somebody's cutting into the line.
01:09:47.000John, I want to switch to the other ISDN right now.
01:09:50.000Okay? I don't know if you're hearing that crackling, but...
01:09:54.000Yeah, Governor, a lot of weird stuff going on here on our end, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence that somebody cuts our digital lines only when you're on the show.
01:10:05.000My end, too, because, you know, I wrote about that in my book.
01:10:09.000You know, the house that I lived in at the time I was governor, it turned out that there's pretty big, strong evidence that my lines were tapped there.
01:10:28.000You probably didn't, but it was in the Denver Post.
01:10:30.000When I was in Denver for the DNC, I was going to meet Uh, with Cindy Sheehan, and she was doing a big event with Ralph Nader, and I was invited to that, and I'm going to meet her, and when I meet with her, she goes, guess what I just caught?
01:10:42.000She goes in her room, she's already been checked in, she goes out and eats, she goes in, the door's cracked, there's a guy in a suit, over her phone, putting a device in it, he screws the top on and runs out of the room past her, I mean, and then of course, you talked about what happened at your house, Tell folks about that again.
01:10:58.000I Well, you know, we have a system set up where, as the governor in your private home, they give you this red phone that even if it's knocked off the hook, it will ring automatically the local police who will come running, which is a good idea.
01:11:14.000You know, you don't even have to speak into it.
01:11:17.000If the phone is knocked off the hook, that sends a message right to the local police, and they're coming.
01:11:24.000But when they installed that, we always had weird clicking on my regular phones, and it was so bad it became laughable where my in-laws would automatically state, well, I guess if you're out there, we're talking again, you know, and that type of thing.
01:11:39.000And then when I ended being governor, we found a little transformer-type thing out on my deck one day that a friend of mine said who used to do that for the phone company when ordered to said that that had something to do with, you know, a listening-type device.
01:13:24.000They always addressed me as my title governor.
01:13:27.000You know, all the formalities were there.
01:13:30.000I guess the scariest thing about it, Alex, was this.
01:13:34.000As I looked around the room at these 23 people, I saw my neighbors.
01:13:40.000And what I mean by that is you would never guess in your wildest dreams that these were CIA operatives, which is their job.
01:13:49.000So obviously they recruit and they do it very well because some of the people I looked at would look like the old retired guy down the street that would sweep his step.
01:14:48.000They avoided the question pretty much, and I said, your mission statement says you're not to be operational in the U.S. What are you doing here?
01:14:57.000And then I said, I want to go around the room and I'd like for you to tell me your name and what you do.
01:15:03.000Well, I got about half and half on both.
01:16:17.000It's like when I went home that day and I called my friend Dick Marcinko, you know, the creator of SEAL Team 6 and a 30-year Navy SEAL, and Dick dealt with the SEAL.
01:16:54.000might win what's going on in the country, because that's what their job is to do.
01:16:59.000Gather intelligence, present it to the government, so that the government can then make a determination and an educated movement on how they want to react to it.
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01:21:07.000Let me tell you, the best part about my job is that I get to see people really wake up.
01:21:12.000To government-sponsored terror, to corruption, to so much, and to see people all over the planet waking up, and to know that we are on the real cutting edge.
01:21:20.000And that I get to associate with people like Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura, and the former German Defense Minister Andres Varmilo, and the Italian President.
01:21:28.000Former Italian President's gone public saying it's an inside job.
01:21:31.000People like Bill Christensen, CIA Section Chief in Berlin, who says it's an inside job.
01:21:37.000Bob Bayer, who says it's an inside job on this show.
01:21:40.000The guy that made Siriana about CIA black op commander.
01:21:43.000You know, we are going against the flow, but we're starting to turn people around and wake them up.
01:21:48.000Governor Ventura, your book has been on and off the New York Times bestseller list.
01:21:52.000If anybody hasn't gotten it, they need to get it in bookstores everywhere.
01:21:55.000Don't start the revolution without me.
01:21:57.000That said, I am looking forward to hanging out with you for a day and a half here in Austin.
01:22:02.000For those that don't know, I'll go ahead and announce the details.
01:22:49.000In fact, in I would tell you this, and I hope I don't offend the rest of the Texans, but if I were to ever move to Texas, Austin would probably be the prime place where I would look, because I love the blues, and I love Stevie Ray Vaughan, and the whole Austin area down there is a magnificent area.
01:23:10.000It's fun to come and visit, and I'm looking forward to coming the 26th.
01:23:14.000Well, if you like Double Trouble and the fabulous Thunderbirds, Jimmy Vaughn is going to be playing at the event, and he is a listener of the show.
01:23:29.000Jimmy was up at the Ron Paul thing here.
01:23:34.000Jimmy and I talked at the Ron Paul convention, the counter convention up here in the Twin Cities at the Target Center.
01:23:41.000Well, it's a small world, and I'm just honored to be associated with people like you and Mr. Vaughn and others.
01:23:46.000God, it's exciting to be on the side of good.
01:23:48.000You know, I feel sorry for those that are involved in corruption and bad, because I guess they don't have a conscience, or they just don't care, because I love being part of the good guys.
01:24:13.000They paid their hard-earned dollars to get my butt kicked.
01:24:16.000Growing up in Dallas, watching you on TV, we liked you, and we were rooting for you to kick Hulk Hogan's butt.
01:24:22.000Well, you know, if you put it that way, Alex, then you're not always on the side of right justice because I was a villain.
01:24:33.000Hogan was supposed to be the all-American villain.
01:24:35.000may not be i know it was by i know everybody everybody liked i mean they're saying you're probably the best villain ever jesse but you know uh...
01:24:43.000You're not really a villain, so we know that was just having some fun.
01:24:46.000No, you know, people understand that, that that's, you know, in the world of pro wrestling, you're...
01:24:52.000All right, folks, Alex will be back live tomorrow, Friday.
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