Ray McGovern is a former CIA analyst who debriefed people like Dick Cheney and others in the early days of the 9/11 attacks. He now writes for the Wall Street Journal and opines for the New York Times.
00:00:02.000First three hours of the program, you can go over to Infowars.com and listen to it for free.
00:00:06.000I do want to make one point to the last caller.
00:00:09.000Hopefully he is still listening in before we go to Ray McGovern.
00:00:13.000Just because somebody's African-American does not mean that they can't be part of this globalist system, a part of this, quote-unquote, New World Order.
00:00:21.000Let me read you something off the Harvard University website, the Gazette News, from September 27, 2001.
00:00:29.000Now this is basically two and a half weeks after 9-11 because you did just mention people like Martin Luther King Jr., a great man.
00:00:37.000But then you mentioned people like Al Sharpton and other people who were under suspicion.
00:01:29.000I don't think getting McCain into office is probable or possible unless, you know, the elitists really want that and they rig the voting machines to do so.
00:01:37.000All right, without further ado, we're going to bring on Ray McGovern, the 26-year CIA analyst.
00:01:43.000He debriefed people like Dick Cheney and others.
00:01:46.000In the eighties, his latest editorial, is attack on Iran off the table, and he really goes after the Washington Post for really putting a downswing on it, like it's a bad thing that the attack on Iran may be off the table both here and in Israel.
00:02:05.000Now, Ray, before we get into this editorial, election day is a week away.
00:02:10.000I interviewed you a little over two years ago, right in the run up to the 2006 election, And we talked about the Democratic Congress getting in and possibly emboldening them.
00:02:21.000Two years later, we're not out of Iraq.
00:02:23.000I mean, obviously there are Democrats that I want to see in.
00:02:26.000I'd love to see Cindy Sheehan take Pelosi's seat.
00:02:28.000Oh, man, that would be a huge triumph.
00:02:31.000But give me your take on the election right now.
00:02:35.000Well, if I take five steps back, Jason, I say to myself, wow, I thought it was going to be a choice between a McCain type person and Mrs. Clinton.
00:02:53.000That would have been a real, real problem for me.
00:02:56.000I never thought that I would have a candidate running who has said sensible things about Iraq.
00:03:04.000I had said less than sensible things about other things, but certainly, in my view, you have to look at what the alternative is, and I noted your advice to people in your own decision to support my good friend, Cynthia.
00:03:25.000However, I would ask people to reflect on what that could mean, because that happened once before.
00:03:50.000It's just that the reality is such that they're very troublesome things and they intrude, and I just still can't get over it.
00:03:57.000But I think my problem with Barack, though, is this.
00:04:00.000He does talk about a de-escalation in Iraq, but that's been on the table for some time now, and it never seems to go through.
00:04:06.000And we had Webster Tarpley on a couple hours ago, and he really talked about how Obama is talking about possibly an invasion or a bombing of Pakistan to go after the remnants of the Taliban or Al-Qaeda and bin Laden.
00:04:20.000And that could cause a whole new situation in the Middle East and Eurasia.
00:04:26.000Yeah, Jason, again, I know Webster, I think what one has to do is be really careful about taking campaign rhetoric as a sign of real intention.
00:04:38.000I mean, look at what Obama has said about Israel, for example.
00:04:42.000I mean, it's almost sickening how the candidates reply among themselves to tell the American public who loves Israel the best, Joe Biden.
00:04:53.000Trying to outdo everyone else by saying, yeah, we all love Israel, but I love Israel with a passion, you know?
00:05:01.000So you expect that kind of rhetoric from Obama, from anybody.
00:05:05.000And when he talks about Afghanistan, for example, he has to sort of show the American people how tough he is, that he is up to the task, particularly military task.
00:05:21.000But I would fully expect, and I've been wrong about these kinds of things before, but I would fully expect that were he to be in office, that the people that he would gather around him would tell him what a feckless exercise not only Iraq but Afghanistan that the people that he would gather around him would tell him what a feckless exercise not only Iraq but Afghanistan has been, and that history dictates that no one wins this kind
00:05:48.000I'm not willing to address what Obama says about these things as though they should be taken at face value.
00:05:56.000So you do think that he's somewhat genuine and there's a possibility that these aggressions in the Middle East will subside after he's elected and he puts in an administration that you feel would de-escalate the war?
00:06:10.000Well, yeah, I have, you know, the notion of the candidate who says, you know, a hundred years, no problem.
00:06:18.000Coming into office turns my hair on end.
00:06:22.000I don't think that a fellow who's made his reputation by crashing airplanes and getting shot down has shown any real acuity with respect to policies to be crafted or followed.
00:06:37.000And so it's a matter of compared to what, finally.
00:06:40.000And, you know, when I look at the Democratic candidate, When you look at the debates, there's a fellow with a cool head, easy and eager to learn, and I think he's teachable.
00:06:54.000I think he will probably avoid the mistakes of predecessors who thought they could come into Washington and diss the people in the press and others with whom you really have to work out a compromise so that they will give you half a chance to have your message heard.
00:07:14.000It's going to be not a very hard act to follow.
00:07:18.000I mean, these eight years have been a disaster for our country.
00:07:21.000And just as my friend Bobby Gates, the Secretary of Defense, just as he followed Rumsfeld and had like a two-year honeymoon, so too, I think, whoever replaces Bush, presumably if it's the favorite contender, That he will have a honeymoon period where people will just so delighted to listen to a person who just conceivably might tell the truth on occasion.
00:07:49.000That if he's of a mind to, and hopefully is, he can change these crazy policies.
00:08:03.000When John McCain comes out and talks about a hundred-year war, or he talks about us being the enemy, I mean, I think you can kind of see the senility in his face.
00:08:28.000It's almost like they're throwing the election.
00:08:30.000I mean, do you really think that McCain has a shot at winning this?
00:08:37.000You know, this is not my field of expertise, Jason.
00:08:41.000My opinion in this area is not worth anything more than the next person's.
00:08:46.000But, you know, there are so many variables and so many shenanigans that have been played over the last couple of elections.
00:08:54.000That I would encourage anyone who is as afraid as I am of Palin and McCain to make sure that not only that their vote is taken, but that their vote is counted.
00:09:04.000Alright, well let's jump to this Iran situation.
00:09:07.000You wrote this editorial, you know, we've discussed Iran at length on the radio and TV interviews with you, Infowars, and myself.
00:09:16.000Do you really think right now we are off the table with Iran?
00:09:19.000It looks like there will not be a war of aggression out there?
00:09:26.000And I say that as one who for three years was saying that chances were at least equal and probably greater than equal that Bush and Cheney to fulfill their promise to Israel would, quote, take care of Iran.
00:09:44.000Well, there are a bunch of things that have changed.
00:09:47.000One is that the senior uniformed military in this country Have shown a little guts for a change.
00:09:54.000We had Admiral Fallon resigning after saying, we're not going to do Iran on my watch.
00:10:00.000Resigning rather than letting himself be on the receiving end of the idiotic order to start a war with Iran and risk the fortunes and lives of all those troops he has in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in the Gulf.
00:10:13.000He didn't want to put himself in that position and so he in effect quit by going to the press and saying, We're not going to do Iran, that would be crazy.
00:10:22.000Now, Admiral Mullen, Mike Mullen, who came in, I was an army officer, so it's really hard for me to say these good things about Navy admirals.
00:10:33.000But Admiral Mullen, man, I think he's got guts that we haven't seen.
00:10:38.000He goes back from Israel and says it would be very foolish to open yet a third war, a third front in that part of the area.
00:10:48.000And then we later learned that we learned this from the Israeli press.
00:10:52.000I mean, you don't learn anything like this from the American press, what I call the fawning corporate media.
00:10:59.000We learned from the Israeli press that when Mullen was there, he braced his opposite numbers in the Israeli leadership and he said, look, don't even think, don't even think of any tricks in the Persian Gulf or anything that would provoke the Iranians so that they would attack you.
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00:16:11.000We're with Ray McGovern, 26-year CIA veteran, and he's discussing with us the Military personnel who have returned home and said, no war with Iran, and you were just discussing a gentleman who just returned from Israel and said the same thing, right?
00:16:26.000Yes, this was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Jason Mike Mullen, an Admiral, who was out there in June, actually, and told the Israelis, not only do we not want a new war with Iran, but don't even think about trying to provoke one by doing something to let the Let the boom go up.
00:16:48.000Now, what I was trying to say is he did something incredibly gutsy, something that no U.S.
00:16:54.000statesman has done in 41 years, and that is he raised the incident of the U.S.
00:17:01.000this Liberty ship that was deliberately attacked by Israel on the 8th of June 1967, with 34 crewmen killed, 174 wounded.
00:17:13.000It was an incredible attack, and we have bulletproof evidence that it was intentional.
00:17:20.000Exactly why the Israelis did it is a matter of speculation.
00:17:23.000You're talking about the USS Liberty, of course.
00:17:40.000Ben Mullen knows, as a naval officer, what happened back on that terrible day, June 8th, 1967, and that Mullen was not going to let it happen again.
00:17:50.000That's about as direct, that's about as clear a message as you can send to the Israeli leaders.
00:17:56.000And right after that, right after that, we saw a slight attenuation of the propaganda out of Israel and out of the United States with respect to what a terrible threat Iran is or was, but really isn't.
00:18:10.000Now, the next big factor that has made it unlikely that we will be striking Iran by air is Russia, the Russian bear.
00:18:20.000We talk about the bear market, well, I'm talking about the Russian bear who has it up to here now with his nose being tweaked.
00:18:29.000What happened was the Russians saw Israel and saw us, that is Cheney and Elliot Abrams and those types in the White House, As being behind that idiot Saakashvili's attack on South Ossetia.
00:18:45.000Well, the Russians are up to here and they said, look, you know, not only are we going to repel this attack, and they did so brutally out of all the debris for that, not only are we going to repel the attack, but don't even think about Georgia becoming part of NATO or the Ukraine.
00:19:00.000And besides Israelis, if you thought that you could use Georgian air fuels to attack Iran, Look at the map, you folks.
00:19:09.000If it were the only feasible way without flying over Iraq and other countries who would deny overflight permission, coming down from Georgia would have been quite feasible.
00:19:21.000And that, according to some reports, is what the Israelis had in mind.
00:19:37.000And again, we intelligence analysts look at all sources, and we saw a very sharp fall off of all the warnings out of the White House about how bad Iran is, how it's supplying our opponents in Iraq, and how it's developing.
00:19:50.000They all fell right off in early August, and it's still pretty far down.
00:19:55.000Two other factors I've mentioned briefly.
00:19:59.000You know, AIPAC, the American, Israel, political something committee, they drafted legislation.
00:20:10.000Actually, this is not so bizarre, they do this regularly.
00:20:14.000They drafted legislation which formed the substance of bills in the House and in the Senate, which amounted to calling for President Bush to blockade Iran, an act of war, okay?
00:20:27.000Now, traditionally, when the Israelis draft this kind of legislation, they put the word out and a hundred representatives, you know, co-sponsor the thing, like, you know, like before you could say Jack Robinson, okay?
00:20:44.000Grassroots folks inundated their representatives with calls, with emails, with I think they also didn't want to fall victim to what I call the Hillary Clinton factor.
00:20:55.000withdrew their sponsorship of that bill because they were afraid that indeed the president would be encouraged.
00:21:02.000Here's Congress telling him to make an active war on Iran.
00:21:06.000I think they also didn't want to fall victim to what I call the Hillary Clinton factor.
00:21:10.000You know, Hillary actually thought it would be a smart political move when she voted for the war against Iran.
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00:25:03.000We're discussing the upcoming election.
00:25:06.000And he just mentioned that Hillary Clinton was a bit of a warmonger against Iran.
00:25:11.000I mean, she's pretty much said everything was on the table.
00:25:14.000I want him to finish up his point on that.
00:25:16.000And then I want to get His take on this coming international crisis that people like Joe Biden, Colin Powell, and now a key member of the Pentagon advisory panel are talking about.
00:25:28.000I want to know whether he thinks this is a reality.
00:25:42.000The business about the attack on Iran being off the table, probably, I'll just finish up by saying that it was a grassroots effort, but many of the congressmen who actually had co-sponsored the bill withdrew that co-sponsorship, and I think it wasn't altogether altruistic.
00:26:02.000I think they were thinking about two years from now, when they're running again, and there's a wider war still, and they voted for it.
00:26:10.000What I call the Hillary Clinton effect would set in.
00:26:13.000You'll recall that back in October 2002, she thought it was the politically smart thing to do, to vote for a war.
00:26:21.000Turned out to derail her attempt to be president.
00:26:24.000It will derail the attempts of others to be representatives or senators if they voted for a wider war, and that's why the whole thing was squashed.
00:26:33.000This is the first time in recent memory that I've seen a grassroots effort able to defeat Uh, legislation not only proposed by, but drafted by AIPAC.
00:26:45.000And the last thing, of course, is the financial crisis.
00:26:48.000I think everybody kind of realizes that we're running out of money.
00:26:51.000We're spending billions in Iraq and Afghanistan every week.
00:26:56.000So where do we get the money to get involved in a war with Iran, which is not at all like Iraq or Afghanistan, but rather a very Very strong country with lots of armed forces that dwarf in effectiveness what Saddam Hussein had before we attacked Iraq.
00:27:18.000So do you think there's a chance of this international crisis that Biden and Powell and other people in the Pentagon are now talking about in the first months of his presidency, if he gets in?
00:27:29.000Well, Joe Biden is not one of my favorites.
00:27:32.000He kind of runs off the mouth without thinking about what he's going to say.
00:27:36.000And we're also dealing again here with the political rhetoric rather than reality.
00:27:42.000My guess is that Biden was just trying to draw a parallel between Obama and JFK.
00:28:03.000Yeah, it's always politically good to compare your candidate with John Kennedy for whom lots of people have continuing respect, including myself.
00:28:13.000And we all know, at least those of us as old as I am, that Kennedy was confronted.
00:28:18.000He was young and he was confronted by Khrushchev.
00:28:21.000He was actually confronted by the CIA.
00:28:24.000He was confronted by our military when they decided to go through with that Bay of Pigs foolishness and then expected Kennedy did it to bail him out by sending the Air Force in to save these guys.
00:28:37.000And so he was beset by all kinds of challenges, not only from Khrushchev in Vienna in May of 1961, but also the Bay of Pigs before that.
00:28:48.000And, you know, there was the Berlin, the trouble over Berlin access and everything else.
00:28:53.000So my guess, and it's only a guess, is that what Biden was referring to is, look, you know, Initially, braced and shocked by all this, he came through, and even when the challenge to us in Cuba with the Russians sending missiles down there, when that happened, he was able to handle that in a cool and collected way, but a strong way, and he made the Russians back down.
00:29:18.000That's the memory most of us have of JFK, but I think it's nothing more than that.
00:29:22.000I don't think Biden has any special... As a matter of fact, Given his record, he certainly has no special foresight or insight into what's going to happen over the next half a year.
00:29:47.000First of all, I want to make one comment about what they're saying about Barack will be tested.
00:29:52.000I think they realize they need to warn everybody, and what they're going to stage is more false flag terrorism, but they need to brainwash the people and spill it in their minds first.
00:30:01.000And the one disagreement I have is about some footage that was used in a film, and better footage could have been used.
00:30:09.000I happen to personally know the guys from vthepentacon.com.
00:30:15.000And they actually have even newer testimony other than the two Pentagon police officers on site at the CITCO that said the plane came in a different route on 9-11 than what the government's official fairytale said.
00:30:28.000And they have Lloyd the cab driver now.
00:30:31.000They've gone out and they've seen the cab that was staged on the south side fly over.
00:30:37.000And even Lloyd's wife agrees that it was a Northside flyover.
00:30:40.000They've got a whole lot of new information.
00:30:42.000Yeah, you know, I like those guys and I like what they do.
00:30:45.000I just feel like focusing on one issue like that one, we're never going to get the 84 tapes that are still classified, you know, out to the public.
00:30:55.000I mean, God bless them for their research.
00:30:57.000We went out to DC with them two plus years ago.
00:31:05.000We interviewed the first guy with a camera on the scene, Bob Pugh, where you saw his footage all over the AP.
00:31:09.000I just think that that issue It's just, it's more of a, you know, we already know they allowed whatever happened at the Pentagon to happen.
00:31:16.000I mean, that was something I've discussed with you years ago, Ray, is that Normanetta now, on six or seven different occasions, speaks about with, you know, whatever hit the Pentagon, we had about twenty...
00:31:26.00020 minutes beforehand to do something about it.
00:31:29.000We had, you know, 120 miles out, 100 miles out, 50 miles out, 20 miles out, to the order still stand.
00:31:34.000So I think that that's a more compelling issue, and to really focus on minutiae like that at this point is kind of, you know, it's counterproductive.
00:32:09.000Well, I'll tell you what, right now I'm looking at Infowars.com and he's got something on the right that says, listen to the Alex Jones Show live on your cell phone.
00:32:29.000I mean, when you literally have a staff, and I'm not part of that staff, I'm a staff of one, but when you have a staff like Alex of ten people and two of those guys work in the newsroom and they're also your main editors, I mean, they're also your main cameraman, it is tough to do everything, but we do need your help.
00:32:46.000Alright, let's jump to yet another call.
00:33:08.000And I know Alex Jones had Chief Osvedo on about that.
00:33:13.000He was saying how he wants to have a dialogue and engage the public, but we've been trying to contact him for the last four months.
00:33:18.000So what we were going to do was on Halloween night at 9 o'clock on 4th and LaVaca, We're going to stage a protest to try and get him to actually come down here and explain how that program is supposed to prevent drunk driving, but it doesn't prevent it at all.
00:33:31.000Okay, so what time is that going to take place?
00:33:34.000It's going to be at 9 o'clock on Friday, on Halloween night.
00:33:49.000Hey, listen, Mr. McGovern, I was going to ask you and correct me if I'm wrong to mention that you were slightly dismayed by the fact that Hillary didn't get the nomination.
00:34:00.000Not dismayed, just really, really, really, really, really happy that someone who did something crass for political purpose, and as a result 4,200 U.S.
00:34:12.000servicemen are killed, That it turned out to be just the opposite of what she expected.
00:34:19.000The war turned sour, and the person who was against the war from the beginning won the nomination.
00:34:26.000That should be an object lesson to all people who make important decisions based on their ambitions to be president, or whatever.
00:34:33.000Well, I certainly agree that, you know, to see Hillary go down is a good thing, and that is a victory if that's the case.
00:34:42.000Uh, my thing is, is a little bit larger point.
00:34:45.000I was left dumbfounded because I was, I guess I had become intellectually lazy that, you know, Hillary was going to be given the nomination and we would just continue as we had because I figured that Bush was going to create this police state.
00:34:55.000If he's going to leave it, he's going to leave it to someone that's going to continue on that thing.
00:35:00.000And I think while we were all sleeping, and maybe you could speak to this, or maybe you disagree, that this thing that Tarpley talked about, I used to think he was a windbag, really, but I got to listen to him.
00:35:09.000This whole Obama thing and the fascism thing, he's on to it, and I think that maybe we've sleptwalked through this, and we're going to get a dictator that everybody loves.
00:36:17.000I mean, obviously you're in support of them.
00:36:20.000Well, you know, compared to what sort of thing?
00:36:23.000And you're quite right, we're going to have to wait and see.
00:36:27.000But I'm less concerned about the global aspects that seem to trouble so many people.
00:36:34.000If adopting a global perspective means Going back and realizing that the new guidelines for war, for example, was set up after World War II and resulted in the Charter of the United Nations, which prohibits any country from conducting a preventive attack or a, quote, preemptive, end quote, attack of the kind that Bush and Cheney have done.
00:37:04.000You're not allowed to attack another country Unless there's an imminent threat to your country, and nobody argues there was an imminent threat, this crew thought they could change not only international law as contained in the UN Charter, but national law, because as you know, once the Senate approves such a charter, and it did something like 95 to 2, once the Senate approves it, it becomes law of the land.
00:37:30.000And so a war of aggression is just not a really good thing to do, and to be Obama is focusing in on this kind of thing, that we would have a modicum of respect for the law.
00:37:40.000Well, I hack my hats off to that kind of perspective.
00:37:43.000All right, let's jump to Ryan in Kentucky.
00:37:48.000Let's talk about the recent news, the public health emergency for anthrax, botulism, and smallpox until 2015, and how that could possibly play into the future.
00:38:00.000And also on how the Coast Guard is actually the agency in charge of a biotech or a pandemic flu relief.
00:38:10.000Well, to be honest, I don't really know much about this new warning.
00:38:14.000Maybe you could send that over to erinainfowars.com.
00:38:17.000I mean, again, some things slip through the cracks here.
00:39:23.000We cannot stay there legally past the 31st of December.
00:39:28.000Uh, we will stay past the 31st of December, but we will incur the opprobrium of the whole world and the Iraqis.
00:39:38.000So, it's just a matter of time, and it's just a matter of setting the timetable for withdrawal.
00:39:45.000Now, if we linger on like we did in Saigon and in Barentsvier and South Vietnam, then it's going to be a case of picking up the residual American presence off the rooftops of the The billion-dollar embassy we've just created there in the Green Zone, and it's going to be a horror.
00:40:15.000So all we have to do is disavow any intention to grab more than our share of the oil, disavow any intention to build permanent military bases, And just say, okay, you can take this for real, international community.
00:40:33.000And then and only then, you know, will the Arab League countries, India, Pakistan, the West Europeans, they'll come in behind us and help us exit as gracefully as we can.
00:40:43.000Because they like us now, they all hate us by now, but they're interested, they're more interested in stability in that area than we are.
00:40:50.000And of course, they're also interested in getting a portion of the oil.
00:40:55.000It's just a matter of whether we linger for two, three, four more years and take the kinds of casualties that we've had since the surge, or whether we, in a more enlightened way, say, okay, Malachy, we understand the pressures you're under.
00:41:08.000We're not going to press you to stay any longer than you want us, and just help us exit in as graceful a way as is possible.
00:41:14.000That's the answer, and for those who, you know, think that we have to stay there to referee A civil war between the Sunni and Shia, I mean, that just doesn't parse for me.
00:41:26.000I don't want one American young man or woman to perish because we're refereeing a civil war.
00:41:32.000And that's pretty much what it comes down to right now.
00:41:37.000Ray, you just talked about the oil, and I was just wondering your opinion on whether or not this current economic crisis is going to continue to drop the price of oil by the barrel.
00:41:48.000How is this going to affect the oil industry?
00:41:50.000Do you think that they're just going to subside on their massive profits they've taken in the last four years for a little while?
00:41:56.000Do you think they're doing this to maybe make the economic crisis a little less worse?
00:42:07.000The price of oil fluctuates depending on how big a threat there seems to be in the Persian Gulf, and I think the oil companies are seeing, what I reported earlier, that there's less likely to be a wider war there, and that the U.S.
00:42:23.000Now, the problem remains, because, as I said to countless audiences, one of the most important factoids in the international situation is that the world is running out of oil.
00:42:35.000And, you know, so in a very real sense, you could look at the attack on Iraq.
00:42:40.000All right, Ray, I do have to let you go.
00:42:49.000The answer is coming, but it will be a bit.
00:42:51.000Yeah, let the guys go, and I'll just rant for the last 10 minutes.
00:42:54.000Now, the problem remains because, you know, as I've said to countless audiences, one of the most important factoids in the international situation is that the world is running out of oil.
00:43:08.000And, you know, so in a very real sense, you can look at the attack on Iraq.
00:43:12.000Alright, Ray, I do have to let you go.
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00:45:01.000I was shocked when I discovered I could be inhaling these additives that can lead to coughing, wheezing, and shortness of breath, headaches, nausea, irritation of the skin, and mucous membrane.
00:47:15.000So that led me onto you guys and now everywhere I look I can see things that Alex is talking about, he's been speaking about for months and I'm trying to tell people.
00:47:27.000Well, what other videos do you have out there?
00:47:30.000I mean, it's one thing to step up to somebody and talk to them.
00:47:34.000You know, you can get a light to start to switch on, but when you hand them an info bomb like the movie that, you know, No End in Sight that brought you out, maybe you should be making copies of that, or Iraq for Sale, or my films, Loose Change, Final Cut, Fabled Enemies, Alex's films, Endgames.
00:47:50.000First, you have to educate yourself and get the information.
00:47:53.000Then, I always tell people, the next level is to set up a little burner, something that you can copy this information to, and then, you know, get a point of interest with somebody.
00:48:02.000In other words, an agreement point, somewhere where you can relate to them, and then hand off the DVD.
00:48:07.000That's how you're going to reach the masses.
00:48:13.000I did notice a couple of weeks ago in Glasgow, where I live, a private car with a like a kind of rig on the roof, like a roof rack type thing, but there was this big object sticking up from it, and it really resembled the machines they used in New York, the sound detectors, is that it?
00:48:32.000Oh yeah, well what those are, and I thank you for the call because I've got a couple other ones, those aren't sound detectors, those are sound wave weapons and they're using those not only in domestic cases with the National Guard like they did at the DNC and the RNC in 2004, but they're now using it for military applications and when they point it at you and fire it literally feels like you're Whole body is aflame, and you just want to move the quickest possible.
00:48:56.000There's different levels, different frequencies.
00:49:23.000The Status of Forces Agreement is dead in the water, according to what I've read.
00:49:27.000The Iraqi representatives know that it's political poison, and with this not being ratified, it's like basically we can't stay there without this agreement.
00:49:40.000Without our forces being subject to their law.
00:49:44.000In other words, you know, you rape or murder somebody, we lock you up and we put you on trial.
00:49:48.000Yeah, but that seems to me like it's going to be political rhetoric.
00:49:51.000I don't think there's going to be any nuts behind that at all.
00:49:53.000Just like Ray McGovern says, we're not leaving at the end of January.