In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg talks about the dangers of government censorship of the internet, and how the government is trying to shut down freedom of speech and access to the internet. He talks about how governments around the world are trying to censor the internet and shut down free speech.
00:00:26.000why do i have comment wars dot and dot t_v_ news dot u_s_ johns report dot com Why do I have that?
00:00:41.000Well, it's because our servers get attacked, our servers get hacked, we also just have regular technical difficulties.
00:00:49.000As we get more and more traffic to the websites, it gets harder and harder to keep them up and to be in the format we have with lots of photos and graphics and images.
00:01:30.000But this is probably just a technical problem and we're working on it.
00:01:37.000The bigger issue is the internet itself is under attack and free speech on the web is under attack by governments worldwide, by corporations, and it is happening now.
00:01:58.000And it's the incremental restriction and phasing out of what is the Internet today, the creation of new networks that are highly controlled, whole governments like Australia preparing to filter out basically all alternative news, quote, free government wireless networks provided through your tax money, nationwide, in Europe and the United States, openly announcing that basically any alternative news sites will be banned.
00:02:26.000It will be a consortium of approved sites.
00:02:31.000And then once that intensifies, Google and YouTube and others, they can intensify their censoring, which they already do with Wanted Abandoned, because you won't have a choice, you won't have anywhere else to go.
00:02:45.000We can get around hacks and denial of service attacks and massive traffic, But we cannot get around government censorship without a political answer.
00:03:00.000I mean they announced eight months ago in Canada and the United States that Time Warner and Comcast are only gonna let you visit a couple thousand websites when you surf the web.
00:03:14.000Out of the hundreds of millions that are out there.
00:03:18.000They say there's tens of billions of pages, but hundreds of millions of sites Run by hundreds of millions of people true diversity of thought and debate can find the best in man the worst in man on the web And I noticed about six months ago Time Warner cable if I type a URL wrong in on my Time Warner Cable internet Roadrunner at home Or at the office it
00:03:48.000takes me to an error page on Time Warner site And I've talked to IT people, that's because your traffic is running over their routers, well now it's running through them through a filter.
00:04:01.000And I've got a bunch of mainstream news reporting the facts that we were already aware of, but for anybody doubting it, they're now admitting it, that all of this snooping and all of this filtering and all of this tracking slows the web down and screws up the internet.
00:04:17.000Then they force you on the internet too, and that's their stated plan from public internet to consortium meetings from London to Tokyo to Austin, Texas.
00:05:09.000Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
00:05:11.000How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?
00:05:13.000Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C.A.R.?
00:05:18.000The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
00:05:43.000Paul Hill is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
00:05:46.000And if the government has not told the truth in five years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of the...
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00:08:18.000Governor Jesse Ventura called me two days ago and said, I want to come on and thank your audience for helping out Senator Dean Markley.
00:08:28.000Put the call out here and over $40,000 came into the campaign allowing them to buy the TV ads.
00:08:33.000They have a good shot of winning and the ads are now airing starting today.
00:08:39.000But he had a funeral he had to go to yesterday, so we're going to have him on, but not for electioneering in the next hour.
00:08:47.000Because there's a lot of other election subjects and other issues I want to, while Ventura's still in the U.S., talk to him about.
00:08:55.000Maybe he can give you a few tidbits, too.
00:08:57.000About inside info on 9-11, you know, he's been going around the country Investigating 9-11 going to government buildings going to facilities and He told the stories on camera but with the agreement that We wouldn't release it at least for a few months until this pilots done and aired on true TV And again,
00:09:21.000I know a lot but behind-the-scenes stuff on that I'm not really at liberty to get into but We'll see how much he'll say on air about that.
00:09:32.000So, second hour we've got former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura popping in back with us.
00:09:39.000Then Bob Chapman and the International Forecaster on this Thursday edition, the 30th day of October 2008.
00:09:55.000The fact that they're going to have police at checkpoints pulling people out of their cars and threatening them that if you don't violate your Fourth Amendment and your Fifth Amendment against self-incrimination, if you don't engage in this ritual of destroying America with us in the name of everyone's safety, then we're going to take your blood.
00:10:15.000We've had top lawyers, state officials on to cover this in the last six months or so since the Fed started it in San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, Houston.
00:10:27.000We've had them on the show, and they've gone over the evidence and the facts in the court cases, but these aren't real warrants.
00:10:34.000They just swear out these blanket warrants at checkpoints, and they're doing this in Indiana and Colorado, going back seven, eight years.
00:10:45.000First place we ever saw it was in Tucson and Phoenix, about, because it was in 2000.
00:10:52.000I would read the Tucson paper and the Phoenix paper on air back in 2000.
00:11:00.000I think that was 99. And people wouldn't believe it.
00:11:27.000And they took them to the Austin hospitals and told them to take blood, and they said...
00:11:31.000Well, some of the hospitals said no out of the gate, even though they had agreements with them.
00:11:35.000The nurses and doctors on the call said, that's unethical, and I'm not going to do that.
00:11:39.000They got a few of them to do it, but then the Austin hospitals, private ones, and then even the city hospitals said, I put out memos, what, I think a week ago, saying, we're not doing this.
00:12:53.000We need to get the sloshing drunks off the roads.
00:12:57.000But you go down here, and you, downtown Austin, and you, because that's where some of the good restaurants are, I'll go down there and eat maybe once a month or so, and there are drunks everywhere.
00:13:08.000Stumbling around, falling down, getting in their cars, I mean, all you gotta do is put five or six cop cars down there and sit outside bars and watch the drunks come stumbling out, but no!
00:13:19.000No, we're gonna have federally funded checkpoints all over the country on every holiday where you get to pull through and have cops shine flashlights in your face.
00:13:41.000Josh Bush local activist here in Austin a member of the steering committee for Texans for accountable government Will be popping in in the fourth hour today to talk about this and some other issues But I remember in 99-2000 going on air and reading Articles out of the Denver Post articles out of different parts of the country and listeners I couldn't believe it.
00:14:12.000I had people emailing me saying, you're a liar.
00:14:16.000The police aren't taking blood at checkpoints.
00:14:50.000Let me tell you who is really number one in North America, and that's Mexico, baby.
00:14:56.000And so I'm not knocking the, you know, I'm not being hypocritical here going, look at you, Mexicans south of the border, a bunch of drunks.
00:15:03.000I guess it takes drunks to know drunks.
00:15:09.000I mean, you go down to Mexico, until recently, now they're all paramilitary, sharp-eyed, you know, black-uniformed, but before it was the pot-bellied, drunk, corrupt cop.
00:15:24.000But you go down to Mexico, it is just drunkenness everywhere.
00:15:29.000And we got probably 40 million illegal aliens in this country, and it's just on a Friday night, a Saturday night, Anywhere in Texas, it's just drunk illegal aliens driving around like maniacs everywhere, smashing into each other, smashing into everybody.
00:17:03.000Instead, you're going to come stick bloodsuckers in my arm.
00:17:08.000And then you're going to argue, well, you know, we've got to get those drunks off the road and people know not to blow now.
00:17:15.000Well, you know, my liberty, my freedom, that precedent shouldn't be set where you can take things out of my body without due process.
00:17:26.000And so, what you do is you get them falling down drunk on the videotape, or you use the passive breathalyzers they've got now, and you just take them to jail.
00:18:03.000The illegal drugs are shipped in by the criminal groups in the government, openly.
00:18:07.000The deadlier, even deadlier, pharmacological drugs are pushed on the kids by the systems, by the schools.
00:18:18.000And then the alcohol is advertised everywhere, and in Hollywood, and in culture.
00:18:24.000I remember being 12 years old, you know, oh, I want to play baseball with my friends, and I'd be at a party with the 16 and 18 year olds, and there'd be beer bongs, everybody getting drunk.
00:18:49.000And so the issue here is responsibility individually.
00:18:53.000You're not going to stop people from making stupid decisions.
00:18:56.000You're not going to stop bad parents from not controlling their children.
00:19:00.000And if you try to set the state up to do that, you're going to create a tyranny a hundred times worse than anything any individual or group can create.
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00:21:53.0006 8 6 2 2 3 7 the answer is at 1 800 6 8 6 2 2 3 7 a day unlike any other in the long course of American history a terrorist act of war against this country the enemy struck America on September 11th But who is the enemy?
00:22:16.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
00:22:23.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:22:33.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
00:22:44.000Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
00:24:56.000Only five full days until the election.
00:25:01.000And you turn and run And in six days we'll know who the supposed winner is, unless it goes to the Supreme Court.
00:25:11.000You notice, since we got the electronic voting machines and all the corruption, suddenly we hear about martial law and military on the streets, and elections have to go to the Supreme Court, and elections officials go to prison for stealing elections in Ohio.
00:25:27.000I mean, we're living in a very corrupt society, and corruption has gotten to the highest levels of government.
00:25:32.000It's been operating with impunity for decades, and it's going to seed now.
00:27:25.000That's up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.
00:27:29.000Gordon Brown's terror claims for ID cards are Buncombe says GCHQ expert.
00:27:37.000They had a whole bunch of the police commanders, the spy grid controllers, the security experts in the government.
00:27:46.000Come out and say, this is George Orwell, this is to control the population, this is an enslavement grid, and this is just the latest of a long line.
00:27:54.000People always say, well, if something this bad was happening, people in government would blow the whistle.
00:27:58.000You know, government's made up of good people and bad people, just like general society, and we learn about this.
00:29:01.000First, the $700 billion rescue for the economy was about buying devalued mortgage package securities from tottering banks to unclog frozen credit markets.
00:29:10.000Then it was about using 250 billion of it to buy stakes in banks.
00:29:14.000The idea was that banks would use the money to start making loans again.
00:29:18.000But reports surfaced that banks might instead use the money to buy other banks.
00:29:32.000Automakers. Even Congress has approved 25 billion in low-interest loans for them.
00:29:38.000We'll come back and tell you the rest of the story, because it's not 700 billion, it's 5 trillion conservatively, and you're going to pay every dime of it in tax money.
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00:32:27.000People ask why I have Infowars.com, Infowars.net, PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, TruthNews.us, JonesReport.com, MartialLaw9141, Marshalllaw911.info What is TheEndgame.com?
00:32:57.000Well, it's the poor man's way of having redundancy instead of having big giant server farms and CDNs back when we couldn't afford those.
00:33:11.000We went with each side having its own server that way Separately, if things got attacked, they were spread out.
00:33:17.000For days like this, when InfoWars.com has now been down two and a half hours, but you can still visit PrisonThePlanet.com, InfoWars.net, PrisonPlanet.tv, JonesReport.com, TruthNews.us, and others.
00:33:37.000But that isn't the issue, InfoWars.com being down for a few hours.
00:33:40.000The issue is The attacks on the internet to shut it down, to restrict it, to curtail it.
00:33:51.000And finally the public is not in denial.
00:33:54.000Just six months ago people emailed me when we wrote stories at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com about MySpace being a Trojan horse for internet censorship was one headline.
00:34:04.000Got picked up a few years ago all over the country.
00:34:06.000Reported on in, you know, major papers like the San Francisco Chronicle.
00:34:09.000People said, oh, it can't be true, oh no, they're not really planning that.
00:34:12.000You know, we had all the quotes and documents and now it's like, yeah, they're trying it, yeah, we gotta stop them.
00:34:19.000So that's the bigger issue, is that the alternative media is kicking behind in on the New World Order and their lies and fraud and propaganda, and they're losing more and more credibility, so they're moving to try to block it right now.
00:34:31.000Already at many libraries and universities worldwide, not just in the U.S., And government wireless systems that are, quote, free.
00:34:55.000We don't have a place in Internet 2. We don't have a future unless we stand up and expose this and speak out and boycott.
00:35:02.000Comcast already tried in Canada to restrict people down to a few thousand websites, so did Time Warner and several Texas towns this year as a beta test.
00:35:09.000People protested and they backed off for now!
00:35:35.000It says anything the government deems offensive, radical, anything that stirs up trouble, anything that is combative, anything that discredits the government.
00:35:46.000Tony Blair, before he left office last year, said we need to restrict the web.
00:37:05.000But first, making news this morning, and the federal government will make internet censorship compulsory for all Australians.
00:37:11.000The Daily Telegraph says controversial websites on euthanasia and anorexia could be banned, and that would put our level of net censorship alongside places like China, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea.
00:37:22.000A poll on Sunrise this morning asked, should the government censor the internet?
00:37:26.000Now, 20% said yes, a whopping 80% said no.
00:38:20.000And we're not gonna turn it, people say, oh, that's negative.
00:38:22.000No, it's positive to address the real problems here, and to face the facts, and to make preparation for it, and not live in denial.
00:38:32.000I just read to you out of the AP, where they're taking trillions of dollars and giving it to themselves as bonuses and giving none of it to the people, and we're paying the bill for it.
00:38:40.000They're not jump-starting the economy, they're the ones killing it!
00:38:46.000Look, I know a lot of people out there haven't studied history, but if you had, you'd be horrified, because this happens 99% of the time, tyrannies come to the fore, and they take over and loot everything, and destroy the middle class.
00:41:17.000Would knock us back to zero, but nobody else and knock us out of the top 100 the first day fabled enemies came out It was number one on Google.
00:41:25.000It was number one the second day, and they just erased it They just knocked it completely out of the top 100 Now about eight months ago before they would have public view counts on Google video Because they got caught over and over again censoring it to keep you off the front page where you could reach people that weren't in the choir they would Go in there and just knock you off, but it was obvious.
00:41:50.000The only way you can see your numbers now on Google Video is if you upload it.
00:41:53.000So we uploaded Fabled Enemy so we could internally see what the views were.
00:42:20.000So they're in there right now doing it.
00:42:22.000And then three months ago, Senator Lieberman sends an open letter to Google and YouTube, owned by Google, and says, We want to give you a list every day of what we want banned.
00:42:38.000Anything anti-American, anything quote against the troops, anything that shows the terrorist, that means anybody criticizing them, we want it banned.
00:43:58.000We're free of charge from the Commonwealth Government and has been for quite some time.
00:44:02.000We don't see that there's a case for forcing it on everybody at an ISP level.
00:44:07.000Dal, my understanding of that is that the people around the world spend their days and nights working out clever ways of getting around that, so kids can get around those pretty simply.
00:44:17.000There are ample ways to get around these types of censorship systems, and for that matter, children enjoy pushing boundaries.
00:44:26.000And when children have got the degree of technical sophistication that they do these days, it will be fairly trivial to get around any kind of censorship system that the government tries to enforce.
00:44:37.000The only alternative would be making the system so restricted that it would really be unusable.
00:44:43.000Okay, so why do you think the government is pushing for this, Dale?
00:44:48.000First and foremost, they went to the election last year promising that they were going to do this, and now they're determined to follow through.
00:44:55.000There's also the issue that the government needs the support of the Green Senators and Senator Fielding and Xenophon, who's an independent and from family first, to get any controversial legislation through the Senate.
00:45:10.000Senator Fielding from Family First has already said that, for example, he wants access to certain adult material, which would be most pornographic websites on the internet, blocked for all Australians.
00:45:25.000When the liquor-running cartels wanted to quadruple, or even more, the price of liquor, they went and lobbied, and this is mainline history, paid local Christian groups across the United States to go out and lobby for prohibition.
00:45:44.000It corrupted the police, created federal police forces, and you know the rest of the story.
00:45:50.000Just like they use, quote, moral do-gooders to ban narcotics.
00:45:55.000Soon as they lost prohibition in the 30s, they then went and banned cocaine and heroin and things like that, which before were available at all your major stores and A lot less people.
00:46:06.000What is it, about 25% of what currently use it?
00:46:34.000You're not going to stop people going to that.
00:46:37.000Now remember going back about 15 years ago the big push by Al Gore?
00:46:42.000We got to put internet in all the schools, but then internet censorship had to come and government approved filters.
00:46:50.000You know, why don't you go to private industry?
00:46:51.000Why don't the schools buy the internet filters they want from the hundreds of companies?
00:46:55.000No. The feds put out a filtration system and then what came out?
00:47:01.000In the name of stopping Plagiarism, starting in the sixth grade, in the name of looking for violent tendencies.
00:47:08.000The children all do their papers now in English class on word processors, and that goes to central databases and to government files, and what your children write is kept and analyzed and used.
00:47:19.000They even have them write, under federal grants, journals on mommy and daddy.
00:47:26.000And they told mommy and daddy, oh this is just a database to see if your child's plagiarizing, or if there's any violent talk.
00:47:31.000No. It's under, in one of them nationwide, a B.A.T.F.
00:47:37.000The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives now.
00:47:55.000Another way they plan to attack the web is staged hack attacks, false flags, Shutting down whole systems of banking and industry and claiming how CIA did it?
00:48:07.000You see, they don't like the fact that PrisonPlanet.com or the Huffington Post or any other alternative site of the thousands of varieties and flavors out there could go to the Senate banking website and get the blacked out bailout plan that was most of over ninety percent blacked out And then that bubbled up through the alternative press.
00:48:28.000The mainstream media wouldn't cover that it was all secret.
00:48:30.000And people asked Perino, the White House Press Secretary last week, well, why is it secret who's been given the money?
00:50:19.000Because that's how we're able to tell you By reading the Banker Bill a month ago, wasn't the mainline media that told you that it gave them dictatorial powers?
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00:51:48.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
00:51:55.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:52:05.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
00:52:17.000Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
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00:54:02.000When they passed that banker takeover bill, simultaneously passing banker takeover bills in Europe and England, what did they do?
00:54:13.000In unison on all the TV news shows and in the newspapers, they even sent Federal Reserve bankers out all over the country to speak to the business groups locally.
00:54:22.000They said, this is to get the economy back going.
00:54:25.000We're going to have a depression if we don't, this week, buy these mortgages.
00:54:31.000Well, we just went and got the Senate bill, and by the way, for days they wouldn't post it.
00:54:36.000We finally got it, and it had those lines in there about no one can review this, no one can investigate it, no branch of government can even look at it, no one can question.
00:54:45.000It can be in the tens of trillions of dollars.
00:54:49.000Bloomberg properly reported five trillion, Ron Paul reported five trillion.
00:55:57.000This is bank robbery right in front of you.
00:56:00.000And who guards these banks in New York, in D.C., in London?
00:56:03.000Riot cops in black masks with machine guns thinking they're guarding everybody from Al-Qaeda when the guys that run Al-Qaeda are inside those banks.
00:56:14.000Literally. Carlisle Group and the Bin Laden family and the Queen of England owning Carlisle Group.
00:56:19.000These are degenerate, evil pieces of trash.
00:56:23.000They're like villains out of a James Bond movie.
00:56:29.000But in the real world, James Bond works for the villains.
00:56:32.000He works for Chaos, or Dr. Doom, or whatever the name is this week, or Dr. No, or Goldfinger.
00:57:00.000First, the $700 billion rescue for the economy was about buying devalued mortgage-backed securities from tottering banks to unclog frozen credit markets.
00:57:10.000I told you, you'd never get any of it!
00:57:13.000All you're going to get is a SWAT team raid, folks.
00:57:37.000Pay dividends, give employees a raise and executives a bonus, or just sit on it.
00:57:41.000Insurance companies now are getting a piece.
00:57:43.000Many automakers, even though Congress has approved $25 billion in low interest rate loans for them.
00:57:48.000Three weeks after becoming law, and with the first dollar of the $700 billion yet to go out, officials are beginning to talk about helping a few scrapped homeowners keep the foreclosure wolf from the door.
00:57:59.000As the crisis worsens, the government reaction keeps changing.
00:58:02.000Lawmakers in both parties are starting to gripe that the bailout is turning to be far different from what the Bush administration sold Congress.
00:59:44.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:48.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:54.000I talked to Senator Dean Barclay's office this morning.
00:59:59.000$47,000 has come in from the radio interview we did Monday.
01:00:11.000With Governor Jesse Ventura and former Senator Dean Barclay who he appointed for a month after the tragic death of Paul Wellstone.
01:00:18.000Now we're not going to panhandle too much here today.
01:00:21.000Governor Ventura just told me through Dean that he wanted to thank everybody because he said that's why he got out of politics is he can't stand raising money but the other two shysters raised Over 30 million.
01:00:33.000Now he's raised almost that much, and he's got the TV ads on today, and he has a chance of winning.
01:00:38.000So we're going to talk about that in 30 minutes when Dean comes on.
01:00:41.000We're going to talk about a host of other issues about the election and 9-11 with Governor Ventura while we have him for the first 30 minutes before Dean Barkley.
01:00:58.000You know, Alex, you got loyal people out there.
01:01:01.000You got patriotic people that saw the opportunity and rather than sitting on their hands, they had an opportunity to do something about it.
01:01:32.000You've got to go at the foundation of it.
01:01:33.000And the one thing I've learned is the only way to truly change the system in many ways, you have to become part of the system to change it.
01:01:41.000And that's what we've got to do at all local, statewide, as well as federal elections.
01:01:48.000Well, we've got Dean coming up in about 30 minutes to join us.
01:01:52.000But first off, I wanted to read you part of an AP headline.
01:01:55.000Uses for the $700 billion bailout money ever-shifting.
01:01:59.000And they go on to say, first, the $700 billion rescue for the economy was about buying devalued mortgage-backed securities from tottering banks to unclog frozen credit markets.
01:02:07.000Then it was about using Well, you know, Alex, that's undescribable.
01:02:35.000I mean, how do we throw these people in jail?
01:02:38.000I guess that's what it's gonna have to get down to.
01:02:41.000Something, somebody's gonna have to come forward and start putting people in prison for things like this.
01:02:47.000I mean, to me, that's unbelievable, but I suppose they covered their butts.
01:02:51.000They probably gave it to them with no strings attached, so there's no legal recourse.
01:04:48.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
01:04:55.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:05:06.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:05:17.000Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
01:07:57.000Well, it's been a great job to have a governor of Interimby such a great job.
01:08:10.000His third visit with us in just the last few weeks.
01:08:14.000But he's off shooting a bunch of TV pilots and about to go back to Mexico, but we'll really enjoy it when he gets back.
01:08:19.000During the break, the governor was just absolutely, you know, I mean, he's aware of it in the press, but those headlines even shocked him more that we were reading about the bankers getting hundreds of billions of dollars and then saying it's secret who they're giving it to, but then they themselves are admitting And I just read some of the headlines here, that they're giving billions of it to themselves, per institution, as bonuses for their executives.
01:08:46.000And then the White House and the Treasury Department have released the documents, but they're 90% blacked out.
01:08:52.000Governor? Well, Alex, I haven't seen this, you know.
01:08:56.000If this is all true, and I have no reason to believe it's not true, I'm speechless over that.
01:09:09.000When I was governor of the state of Minnesota, we did nothing under the table.
01:09:13.000There wasn't anything going on, you know, that the public didn't have a right to know about.
01:09:17.000In fact, when I left office, we turned every document of my entire four years over to the Minnesota archives, where anyone can go there and read anything, including bad emails, if they want to read about them.
01:09:29.000But I mean, this is not what our government is supposed to do.
01:09:35.000You know what, I'm to the point now, I'm urging everyone to vote against every incumbent.
01:09:42.000It's the only way we can survive this, is to vote all incumbents out of office, to turn the whole thing over and until something of that magnitude happens, we're going to continue to have this going on.
01:09:56.000Well, you're right, and then, let me just bring up a speed on this, because the mainstream media has not been covering it.
01:10:02.000This is from the past bill section 8 of the portion of 1937, the bill.
01:10:11.000Decisions by the secretary pursuant to the authority of this act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion and may not be reviewed by any court or law or any administrative agency.
01:10:24.000That's what it says right in the bill?
01:10:27.000Yes sir, that's section 8 and this was first reported by The Huffington Post, dirty secrets of the bailout, 32 words that none dare utter, but then it was picked up by mainstream media after that.
01:10:39.000Wow. I, I, I, you know, like I said, the only way we can do it is to take back our government at the ballot box.
01:10:46.000You gotta vote all the incumbents out of office, is my opinion.
01:10:50.000That's, that's the way it needs to, it needs to, it has to be done.
01:10:55.000Well, I mean, this is what happens over and over.
01:10:56.000Whether you like the guys or not, Alex.
01:11:01.000If they're on board for this type of behavior of government, then we need a complete flushing of the toilet, to put it into blunt terms.
01:11:14.000I mean, that's definitely what's in there.
01:11:17.000Wow. Yeah, you know, well, thank goodness we got you out there reading it over the radio, because I haven't had time to look at that stuff.
01:11:25.000I'm so involved in all the things that I'm doing, and I'm caught off guard with it, Alex, like I said.
01:11:30.000That's what's in there, and that's how the operation of our federal government's operating today.
01:11:35.000We most definitely better have a revolution and take our government back.
01:11:43.000This happens in history over and over again, where governments just go completely deceit, and the last official act of any dictatorship is to loot the treasury.
01:11:52.000This is what happens in third world countries.
01:12:08.000So what you have happening here is they're trying to turn us into a third world country where there will be only the wealthy and there will be only the poor.
01:12:16.000Well, I'm here Googling these terms because I want to find the video of Perino, the press secretary, saying, yeah, it's all secret, you're not allowed to see it.
01:12:28.000And you can, for listeners out there, you can just Google banking bailout documents blacked out, and then you can see on the Senate website where they posted them, and it'll say the top title and it's all blacked out.
01:12:42.000What's the purpose of even posting it if it's blacked out, Alex?
01:12:47.000particular or but it's blacked out yes haha well i just read the associated press where they uh...
01:12:57.000haven't doled out one bit of this to uh...
01:12:59.000any banks are actually in trouble or any mortgages and and and the the banker heads are on the news saying we're just gonna sit on the money and just keep it and the minutes of paulson's meetings he has every week Well, you know, like I said, if that's the case and that's how secretive...
01:13:21.000To me, this somehow has to be against the law.
01:13:25.000Unless, of course, like you said, they specifically stated in the bill that no one could Yes.
01:14:07.000well i think it's the over-the-top nature i mean who would imagine that in the u_s_ of a you would have corrupt bankers running everything looting It's really over a trillion dollars directly into their own pockets as bonuses.
01:14:21.000I mean, who could imagine that they would terrorize the public and say, we're going to have a depression, we have to have this bill this week to prop up these mortgages, and then now they say we're not spending it on the mortgages.
01:14:33.000Yeah, well, see, to me, who is ultimately to blame for it?
01:15:11.000See, I can't believe this either, and so I don't blame you for having trouble believing it.
01:15:15.000They were threatened with physical martial law if they didn't pass it.
01:15:20.000Well, you know, they had a chance to prepare for it because I saw that at the Republican Convention in St. Paul because I got a first-hand visual of what truly martial law will look like.
01:15:51.000I had to drive completely through the city to the south side, exit on the street there, double back, and then six, eight blocks away from the event, you had to get out of your cars.
01:16:04.000You were met there with your identification and all that, the stuff you wore around your necks.
01:16:10.000Then you had to walk three blocks to the first checkpoint, and this was a place with these temporary metal fencing, not even fencing, they're almost like metal walls that they put up.
01:16:22.000And that went in a complete circle, unbroken.
01:16:25.000You know, they also charge peaceful demonstrators under the State Terrorism Act.
01:16:29.000Well, and you could only walk on designated streets that they allowed for anyone that wanted to protest.
01:16:36.000And what they did is they designated them off the side streets so that it wouldn't be in the front of the building, so therefore the news media didn't have to photograph any type of protest going on because they were all shuttered over to the side of the building on these other streets, and you watch the protesting, it's hilarious.
01:16:55.000It's like they're walking down streets that do a little U, but it's all encased with fence and barbed wire and razor wire.
01:17:03.000So, you know, here's your protest area.
01:17:06.000And what's interesting about that is, excuse me, but these are public streets paid for on the public domain by public dollars.
01:17:14.000And our First Amendment of the Constitution states that you have every right to civilly gather and protest anywhere in the public domain.
01:17:23.000But again, they use 9-11 as the pretext to sell us this is all for your safety.
01:17:27.000Exactly. Well, that overrides the First Amendment, is that, well, public safety comes first, and the argument they give you back is on free speech.
01:17:37.000You're not allowed to go into a crowded movie theater and yell fire.
01:17:42.000That's not free speech, and that puts people in danger who will then panic.
01:17:47.000Yeah, well the greater danger is this tyrannical government.
01:18:19.000Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday, that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told That there would be martial law in America if we voted no.
01:18:45.000We've got a week, we've got two weeks, to write a good bill.
01:18:49.000The only way to write, to pass a bad bill, keep the panic pressure on.
01:18:54.000And that was the day they passed it, and I interviewed him and another congressman, they were threatened with physical martial law, then they get it, Well, you know, Alex, you know, I'm learning of this right now.
01:19:14.000I'm as dumbfounded and shocked as anybody who would hear that, you know.
01:19:18.000The only thing I wish, I wish they'd name the names.
01:19:22.000Who exactly are the people who were threatened with martial law, and who were the people who threatened them?
01:19:33.000All right, we'll tell you who said it when we get back.
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01:24:11.000Minnesota Post, why are key details of documents from the bailout secret?
01:24:16.000And I just clicked on that article there.
01:24:20.000This should be a much bigger scandal and a much bigger deal.
01:24:23.000And to answer the Governor's question, we had both the congressmen on, Republican and Democrat, who were told about the Marshall Law, and under House rules, they can be suspended.
01:24:34.000These were in committee meetings, and they were told this is being told in secret, and they're not allowed to say who said it.
01:24:40.000So again, Governor Ventura, as you kept saying when you were down here for a couple days with us, wherever you have secrecies where you have the corruption, the cover-up of 9-11, the cover-up of Kennedy, I mean, that's the big evidence of the cover-up, and now with the banker bill, they're making it secret, but what leaks out is they're just gobbling the money up for themselves.
01:25:00.000Well, again, you know, I'm simply hearing what you're telling me, Alex, and to me this is, you know, people should be going to jail over this.
01:25:11.000Because again, all public money in the public domain should be out in the open and whatever bills that are passed and what it's spent on, it should be clearly labeled with a complete paper trail so that anyone can audit it, anyone can go through it and be able to obtain and understand where the public money goes.
01:25:36.000If our people are voting for this, then clearly We're out trying to do a TV show and basically what it's about is it's showing both
01:26:07.000sides of a conspiracy and the problem we're running into is getting no cooperation from the government whatsoever in any way, shape, or form.
01:26:17.000And that's about all I can go into for now except to state that, you know, when people act guilty, then they wonder why other people think they're guilty.
01:26:26.000And if you behave in a certain manner that leads to suspicion and not openness, well, then that's what breeds suspicion and conspiracy and things like that.
01:26:39.000When you're not open, you know, if people tell you there's no conspiracy but then they behave otherwise, well then, how can you have any other way of thinking than that they're obviously not being truthful and are covering up for something?
01:27:21.000You wouldn't operate that way in your own private household.
01:27:24.000So why on earth would we find it acceptable to operate that way as our government?
01:27:29.000I mean, unless you're a fool, you're not going to give huge sums of money to, say, Uncle Ben without him telling you what he's going to use it for.
01:27:51.000Because they've been able to be blatant ever since 9-11.
01:27:56.000I mean, they were so blatant with not answering questions, not forming an investigative committee until two years later it was stonewalled.
01:28:06.000I've never figured that one out, having been the leader of a state.
01:28:11.000And, in fact, when the bridge fell in the water here in Minnesota, I don't know if they're getting an accurate report, but they actually commissioned three separate reports to happen so that all three could be compared to each other to determine, you know, from three different entities what happened with the bridge.
01:28:31.000I don't know if they'll be honest or dishonest, but I can't understand how as an elected official or the head of a state, the head of a country, or the head of anything, that when you have a disaster happen under your watch, why you wouldn't immediately have a full-scale investigation?
01:28:49.000Because the most important part is to learn what happened so you could prevent it from ever happening again.
01:28:55.000Instead, they actively cover Well, there you go.
01:29:16.000You know, hey, Alex, you know what they call that in Hollywood lingo?
01:29:21.000What? Out in Hollywood, that's called failing your way to the top.
01:29:38.000I had the opportunity to speak to my 90-year-old grandmother at some length here recently, and she was talking about the Great Depression, and we were talking about the gas prices, the food prices, this economic uncertainty we're in, these, you know, really kind of perilous times, no one knows where we're headed or where we might end up, and she was reminded of the Great Depression and how in those days folks who lived in the country did okay because they had chicken and eggs and they could grow gardens and can their food,
01:30:00.000but how difficult it was for people who lived in urban areas or in the cities because they didn't have the landscape for gardening or the know-how, they didn't have the chickens and the livestock, We're good.
01:30:53.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
01:31:00.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis, again, very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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01:32:49.000We're going to have Senator Dean Barkley riding shotgun with us for the rest of the hour.
01:32:54.000Then, one of our financial experts, Bob Chapman, joins us in the next hour.
01:32:58.000We'll talk a little bit in the fourth hour about police all over the country under federal funding warrantlessly taking blood at checkpoints of those that refuse to violate their Fifth Amendment rights and blow in the breathalyzer.
01:33:11.000We'll also take calls in that hour, in the next two hours.
01:33:16.000Well, you know, like I said, Alex, I get focused on the job that I'm doing, and I sometimes don't pay attention to everything going on.
01:33:37.000Many, like regular Americans do, you've got your life to lead, and you don't have every waking moment to peer at the government.
01:33:44.000You have to have some type of trust with them.
01:33:47.000And if these things, as I've heard on your show today and on the main, and what they're reporting is true, then to me the government is completely violating their trust with us.
01:33:57.000And when we get to the point where we have to sit and watch every move they make, and every move they make is done in secret so it doesn't matter.
01:34:07.000Well, my only thing that I can tell all your great listeners out there, and they indeed are that, is that vote against all incumbents.
01:34:14.000It's time to clean house and get these people out of office and take our government back.
01:34:19.000And I know it's a shameful segue, but we got an opportunity in Minnesota to do it.
01:34:24.000And again, I want to thank all the listeners out there for giving us the opportunity for Dean Barkley, because, ladies and gentlemen, I was 10 points behind with a week to go when I ran for governor of Minnesota.
01:35:24.000I said, you know, all this talk of change out of the Democrats, I said, it's a bunch of malarkey.
01:35:29.000Because I said, we've had Democrats, Democrats and Republicans, Republicans have been in charge since my life began, and there's no major change involved.
01:35:40.000Anybody that believes big changes are going to happen is fooling themselves.
01:35:44.000The only way you're going to get true change is to start electing independent people that are not part of these two political gangs.
01:35:51.000Well Governor, I actually disagree with you on a slight point, a caveat here, an addendum.
01:36:14.000You're not going to see change for the better, in my opinion.
01:36:17.000well we're not starting a revolution without you governor and being involved your supporting the markley who got you under politics with your campaign uh...
01:36:26.000right you'd be to the governorship i mean this is all really exciting and i appreciate you reaching out to our audience and i appreciate the audience i mean i mean everybody just gave five bucks which i guess they did forty seven thousand dollars whatever's come in You can see it up at SenatorBarclay.com.
01:36:42.000I just want to restate the facts because there's more to it, Governor, and then we're going to let you introduce Dean and let you go here.
01:36:48.000But to be specific, you were 10 points behind going into the weekend, but you still won because 30-something percent, you will remember the exact numbers, were undecided.
01:36:59.000We have 37 percent In the polls, undecided now, and Dean Barkley is closing the gap in those polls.
01:37:06.000He's doing radio and TV all over the state as an independent up there, so I've got my fingers crossed here.
01:37:13.000Well, and let's remember, Minnesotans did it before.
01:37:16.000As you said, Alex, they did it with me exactly 10 years ago, and believe me, the people are twice as angry today as they were 10 years ago.
01:37:25.000When I did it, it was retaliate in 98, and we're now, we can double retaliate in 08, because the people are even more angry.
01:37:34.000And that's the true way you can vent your anger, is by electing people that they don't want in there, people that aren't going to shade out everything, and people that aren't going to fall victim to their political careers, because that's what it all comes down to, is these people saving their political careers.
01:37:54.000They like the positions they're in, and they will say and do anything to keep them to anyone who will keep them in their lives.
01:38:17.000even if they're from the state, because they vote on national policy and the power of one senator With a bully pulpit to speak out and to expose what's happening.
01:38:29.000Let's bring up Dean Barkley and then let the governor go here in a moment.
01:38:31.000Okay, plus a senator can investigate on their own, too, with something.
01:38:35.000A senator can start a senatorial investigation, which is terrific, and one senator can do that also.
01:38:51.000Dean, that was the question I was going to ask you here.
01:38:53.000We had congressmen on a few weeks ago who were threatened with martial law but were not allowed under House rules to say who threatened them with that.
01:39:00.000As a senator, I mean, what are you going to try to do?
01:39:04.000You've already been there for a month before appointed, but if you get elected next Tuesday, what are you going to do to expose all this secrecy?
01:39:24.000You know, we need a good dose of honesty and truthfulness in Washington right now.
01:39:27.000There's so much stuff going on right now, it's unbelievable.
01:39:32.000Well, I was just going over with Jesse what's happening with the banker bailout bill being secret, but the parts that are public, they're giving tens of billions per bank in bonuses from the bonus money Well, that's what it is.
01:39:46.000The banker bonus is what the bailout was, and they're just openly admitting they're keeping it for them personal selves.
01:40:25.000I mean, without your listeners, I would not be on the air.
01:40:28.000I mean, we made a TV ad on Tuesday right after the show.
01:40:31.000We had enough money to do that, and now we're starting to air it tonight.
01:40:35.000We're going to unveil it at 3 o'clock this afternoon.
01:40:37.000If it wasn't for your listeners, this would not be happening.
01:40:40.000So we've got a shot at this in Minnesota right now, because unfortunately, a lot of people don't think you're credible, unless they see you on television.
01:40:46.000Well, that's going to happen right now, and, you know, every dollar that we're getting from now until Tuesday is going in to increase that buy.
01:40:54.000So, you know, if people want to help out even more, we certainly would take it to increase the buy we've already made.
01:40:59.000SenatorBarclay.com, www.senatorbarclay.com, and give out that number.
01:41:05.000Yeah, the phone number if you want to call, and if you don't have internet access is 763- Well, I wish I would have known how close this race was earlier,
01:41:34.000but you know, it's hard to pay attention to everything, but it is an important Senate race.
01:41:38.000Your competitors have got 30 plus million, and you'd only raised $50,000 in the previous few months before this, and you'd already gotten within 10 points of them with that.
01:41:48.000Imagine what this 40-something grand is going to do.
01:43:20.000He's going to, you know, push to decriminalize drugs.
01:43:23.000People are going to say, oh well, you know, it's all over, New World Order.
01:43:26.000Look, it's over when the fat lady sings, folks.
01:43:29.000We're fighting, we're waking people up.
01:43:31.000I mean, everything the New World Order is doing is so unpopular right now, and we just have to stand up.
01:43:36.000And just the, just the reflex, just the action.
01:43:40.000No, I couldn't have said it better myself.
01:44:05.000Our founding fathers didn't quit against all odds.
01:44:07.000They fought Uh, you know, to give us what we have now, and that's the least we can do, is to keep some freedom, you know, keep some honesty and integrity, uh, you know, in our government, and turn it around.
01:44:17.000We've got the greatest form of government in the world, but, you know, we've lost our way because we've let them get away with it.
01:44:23.000Now it's time to stand up, quit bitching about it, and do something about it, and we can start by electing me.
01:44:28.000That'd be a start, but that's just the start.
01:44:31.000We've got to do something to turn this country in a different direction than it's heading right now, because it's heading in the wrong direction.
01:44:45.000I know you headed up his campaign and got him to run.
01:44:50.000Tell the story of that campaign briefly.
01:44:53.000Yeah, well it all started when I ran to get the Independence Party Minnesota Major Party status in 1996.
01:45:00.000I ran for the Senate there to get the 5% vote total we needed to become a major party.
01:45:04.000And Jesse, I recruited To be the honorary chair of that campaign in 1996.
01:45:11.000And while I was marching in my hometown, Fourth of July Parade in Annandale, Minnesota, Jesse marched it with me, or walked it with me, and I noticed that everybody was cheering for him and ignoring me.
01:45:22.000And at that point in time, the lightbulb went on, and I said, I wonder if this would equate to political popularity.
01:45:27.000And I turned to him and said, you know the wrong guy's running, you're running next.
01:45:30.000He laughed at me at the time and said he didn't want to go to Washington.
01:45:44.000So I want people to understand that, you know, you're the brains, you're the mind that basically hatched this originally, and that scared a lot of incumbent governors that In a bad way, spurred Schwarzenegger to run, but, you know, regardless, it showed people what can happen and that these people are not invincible.
01:46:03.000So I sure hope that you win next Tuesday.
01:46:06.000When are we going to get some new polls out to see if things are continuing to narrow?
01:46:10.000Oh, I'm sure they're going to be out in the next few days or not.
01:46:12.000At this point in time, I don't think the polls matter in Minnesota, you know, whether I go up a couple or not.
01:46:17.000The fact is, in Minnesota, they're predicting a historic voter turnout.
01:46:22.00080%, which is 20% more than Ventura's was, and his was a historic high.
01:46:27.000Yeah, that's the key, because you got 37% undecided.
01:46:32.000Absolutely. And if they're undecided, it means they're not enamored by Al Franken or Norm Coleman or the Democrat or the Republican.
01:46:38.000And that's why this TV campaign was so critical, to give, you know, like I say, a lot of people base your viability on I'm seeing you on television, and that's why I've been trying so hard to do that.
01:46:50.000It's probably sad that we have to say that, but it's true.
01:46:53.000We did the same thing with Jesse ten years ago.
01:46:55.000We started running his first TV ad the Thursday before the election, and that's exactly the same time frame we're doing here.
01:47:02.000And I think the same thing can happen again.
01:47:04.000And like Jesse said, I heard earlier, people are so much more angry now than they were ten years ago.
01:47:08.000And he was ten points behind on the Friday, eight points behind the day of the election, and he won by how many points?
01:47:15.000He won by, he won by 2 points, 37 to 35. He went from about 26-27% in the polls to 37. Well, I mean, you got Congress with a 9% approval rating.
01:47:29.000How could people not vote for somebody who's basically lined up with Ron Paul?
01:47:33.000Well, you know, people sit there and play these mind games with themselves.
01:47:36.000I'm sure the vast majority of Minnesotans like what I'm saying and would like to vote for him, but somehow they start thinking, well, I don't know if he's going to win, so if I vote for him, my worst enemy, which could either be the Republican or the Democrat, might win, and I can't have that, so I'm going to hold my nose and vote for my second choice out of fear, rather than who they want to vote for.
01:47:57.000And that's what Minnesotans are going through right now.
01:47:59.000If they're going to buy into that again, they're going to actually, for once, vote for someone that they can believe in, rather than against someone who they fear.
01:48:07.000If they vote for what they believe in, I'm going to win.
01:48:09.000If they vote the other way, I may not.
01:48:11.000Well, people get the government they deserve, I guess, but one thing listeners can do also, even if you don't live in Minnesota, pick a talk station, listen to it online this afternoon and throughout the weekend, and call into talk shows on whatever issue they're talking about, and then it'll be the election, and bring up Senator Dean Barclay.
01:48:27.000And say, look, he's against the Baker bailout, but the others are for it.
01:48:31.000And just say, Senator Dean Barclay, you know, SenatorBarclay.com.
01:48:35.000And I think, you know, that's effective right there.
01:48:37.000I mean, look, we're in this fight, we're fighting as hard as we can, And, uh, you know, I'm just trying to find a silver lining in this whole election, which is a nightmare.
01:50:31.000He's been there for a month before, appointed by Governor Ventura.
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01:54:12.000So we go right to the head of the line and bump someone else's ads off.
01:54:16.000So, uh, we got, you know, we have a great opportunity to maximize this buy that we're going to do.
01:54:21.000And obviously every dollar we raise between now and Tuesday is going to go to bump more of their negative ads off and give the positive ad and get people at least, you know, the feeling that I can win this.
01:54:30.000Cause if they get that feeling, I will win.
01:54:33.000Tell us the, um, The gist of the new ad?
01:54:37.000That's basically my two opponents up on a big pedestal, up there with their big smug smiles on there, you know, pretending to know what the middle class is all about, and I come on right in the middle of it, and I just give a heart-to-heart message.
01:56:28.000Well, you certainly did do that, and I'm going to be watching the Minnesota senatorial race very, very closely.
01:56:36.000And again, I want to thank the audience one more time.
01:56:40.000You know, Ventura, the whole time he was here, he was just like, oh man, Dean Barkley's a great guy.
01:56:44.000You know, I think about how I should have run, but I, you know, I just, I'm just so sick of politics and the corruption and begging for money.
01:56:51.000You know, maybe I should, you know, I thought about running.
01:56:53.000I just, you know, I'm old now and, you know, I, I, you know, it's like going into prison.
01:56:58.000What he said to do it, but he said, but Dean's doing it.
01:57:01.000Man, if we would have just had more money and he wasn't even really asking me, he was just talking about it, pontificating in the car and at the hotel about it.
01:57:08.000And then, uh, I was like, wait a minute, Dean Barkley, he called Ted Anderson last week, the owner of the network.
01:57:13.000And Ted said, Hey, do you want to have this guy on?
01:57:15.000And I said, yeah, but never got around to it.
01:57:33.000I mean, your listeners could be electing the next U.S. Senator from Minnesota, but it'll be more than that.
01:57:39.000It'll be the hope that this is the beginning of a change in Washington.
01:57:43.000And your listeners, I thank all of you.
01:57:44.000I mean, I couldn't be doing this without you.
01:57:46.000And I thank you for every dollar that you've sent in, because it's going for a good cause.
01:57:50.000Absolutely. Senator Barkley, thank you for spending time with us, and I know you're going to pop in Monday on the eve of the election and after the election on Wednesday to give us your take on how it all went, whether win, lose, or draw.
01:58:03.000We stood up, we took action, we did the best we could, and that's why we're winners overall and on the side of right and justice.
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02:00:12.000The next hour we're joined by none other than Bob Chapman who joins us at least once a week.
02:00:17.000We always appreciate his great analysis.
02:00:19.000Ran the biggest gold brokerage firm in the world.
02:00:22.000Had the largest newsletter in the world.
02:00:24.000Was business partners with Gary Allen who wrote None Dare Call a Conspiracy in the early 70s.
02:00:29.000The tens of millions of, I know, I mean just millions of those books.
02:00:33.000My memory says 4 million, 5 million, I can't remember.
02:00:35.000The point is, millions of the book went out, woke up so many people, including myself, been involved in the fight, you know, back when G. Edward Griffin started out, worked with him, a real icon, and we just appreciated him coming on.
02:00:48.000First thing I want to talk about, Bob, I want to break down the economy this hour and take calls on that issue.
02:00:54.000The InternationalForecaster.com, people can learn more, but AP is reporting, like you wrote it or something, that the bankers are keeping the money and using it for personal bonuses, that it's over a trillion, and that they're blacking out all the documents,
02:01:09.000not even letting people know who's getting the money, but then the banks are so arrogant, they openly brag and say, yeah, we're taking it for bonuses, and in England it's the same thing, just Goldman Sachs England branch, 14 billion dollars, 7 billion pounds, Well, loan from the from the four hundred million dollar mail out over there i mean bob this is this is just the the the corruption issues off the charts in our face why why are they so arrogant
02:01:37.000because they run the world and they are the Illuminati and they do what they want to do.
02:01:43.000And nothing is said about the money that went from Lehman's office in New York, in London, to New York.
02:01:52.000Uh, the day before they went down, and that money, as far as I know, has disappeared.
02:01:57.000Uh, switching gears and going back to, uh, the banks, they've received $163 billion.
02:02:03.000And as you say, it's a big bonus time.
02:02:07.000And not only that, half of that money over the next three years will be used in order to pay dividends to the shareholders.
02:02:16.000and some of the biggest shareholders are people who are on their boards or offices of their corporations.
02:02:21.000And in addition to that, they can use that money as they see fit.
02:02:29.000Now, the government has told them that they should use the money to expand loans.
02:02:34.000They are going to use that money to bolster their balance sheet.
02:02:38.000And at the same time, they could go into the markets and speculate with it, such as buying from time to time when instructed by the Treasury Department, Or the Fed?
02:02:52.000To buy the Dow Jones Industrial Average and make it go up 900 points in one day?
02:02:58.000Those are some of the things that they can do.
02:03:01.000And so the whole thing is a giant scam.
02:03:35.000And they received $122 billion, and nobody knows where it went.
02:03:40.000They also raised $20 billion in stock.
02:03:46.000In May, so they received $143 billion, and they said that they didn't have any serious problems when they told the people that they should buy their stock and their debt.
02:03:59.000And now we find out that not only did they have problems that they didn't admit that were hidden, but they were, in fact, bankrupt.
02:04:07.000And now we've already poured in this $123 billion from the taxpayer, and now They want more money, and they won't tell you where the money went.
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02:07:52.000In 1648, Six years of Paul Watson working for me, six plus years now, he has never IM'd me saying, I want to come on the radio, I have a major breaking story.
02:08:03.000He writes stories, he runs the website, he does customer service, and then I always have to drag him on air.
02:08:09.000Because, you know, Paul doesn't like the limelight.
02:08:11.000He IM'd me and he said, I've got a major exclusive story, can you get me on the air right now?
02:08:16.000So I said, well, 20 minutes and Bob Chapman will ride shotgun with us.
02:08:19.000And that just came in, and I said, Colin, 20 minutes, bottom of the hour.
02:10:52.000They're doing exactly what you're saying they're doing.
02:10:56.000And you say to yourself, how do we stop it when you have a Congress that goes along with the program because they're all well paid off or they're compromised?
02:11:11.000We can try to change Congress by getting rid of the incumbents, with the exception of a handful, including Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, who stands up against these people.
02:11:23.000But other than that, if that doesn't work, there's only one thing left to save our Republic.
02:11:32.000Well, Bob, Syrians were reaching out to Israel wanting to sign a peace and energy deal.
02:11:46.000I mean, who wouldn't want to trade with Israel, the richest country out there?
02:11:50.000And they're about to sign the peace deal yesterday.
02:11:53.000So two days before that, a sneak attack crossed their border, landing in a village and shooting a bunch of people, including children.
02:12:01.000And then this stupid statement about, oh, it was the number 10 in Al-Qaeda or something, when they admittedly have Al-Qaeda attacking the Iranians.
02:12:09.000And the Iranians sit there and take all these stage attacks.
02:12:14.000clearly they're trying to escalate crises.
02:12:18.000And that's to becloud the financial and economic issues.
02:12:24.000They get people thinking about something someplace else while they go in and do what they want with taxpayer money, not only in the United States, but virtually throughout the world.
02:13:16.000Yeah, we've basically, you know, my girlfriend's Chinese and she sometimes does translations from Chinese media because there's a ton of information that comes out in Chinese media which just never makes it into English language media.
02:13:31.000And the reports are, and this is in the top Chinese magazines, News outlet which is so who calm and they cite French media news sources and there's a there's an intense debate about this in China right now and the story is that the Rand Corporation recently presented a Proposal to the Pentagon in which it lobbied for a war to be started with a major foreign power
02:14:01.000in an attempt to Stimulate the American economy and prevent a recession.
02:14:08.000And basically, people in China are freaking out about this because they're saying that it's likely that it's either going to be China or Russia.
02:14:18.000Well, and we always learn about this months later, but we know about the sneak attack on Russia.
02:14:23.000and again folks about ten thousand nukes total lambs and they're openly on nato's announced that they have a preemptive strike that they may sneak attack russia and and and and russia comes out as well we're going to defend ourselves the media spends that it's just rushes threatening to blow the u_s_ to kingdom come that's why the russians are moving back into cuba they're moving into venezuela they've moved nukes into venezuela they're in the gulf of mexico bob japan It's all there.
02:15:40.000Yeah, there's high levels of CFR interlocked, and basically everything they recommend is policy.
02:15:45.000This is the kingpin think tank for IBM, the Defense Department for everybody.
02:15:50.000Right, and it's got interlocking trustee connections with the Ford, Rockefeller, and Carnegie Foundations as well.
02:15:58.000Now, one of the top directors of RAND at the moment is Frank Charles Carlucci III, is the former Defense Secretary and the former Deputy Director of the CIA.
02:16:11.000And some of your listeners will remember the fact that he was also chairman of the Carlisle Group from 89 to 2005, which, of course, covered 9-11 and its aftermath.
02:16:25.000And let's explain that they are the ones that lowered defense stocks, saying it was all over after the Gulf War in 91, that literally bought up the majority of them.
02:16:46.000So apparently now Rand and the Carlyle Group are not amused at the fact that the stock market is crashing and they want a new war to reinvigorate it.
02:16:58.000I mean, that's evil enough, but why can't they pick Venezuela or something?
02:17:02.000Why does it have to be Russia and China?
02:17:04.000This is the thing, Alex, because the proposal directly states and stresses the fact that this new war that they want cannot be with a smaller country on the scale of Afghanistan or Iraq.
02:17:19.000In fact, with the analysis that the Chinese media are doing, They entertain the possibility that it could be North Korea, but it was ruled out because Rand wants something bigger, a bigger scale than an attack on North Korea would be.
02:18:22.000And then there is another very important factor.
02:18:25.000If we're having a depression, which there's a good possibility that we will, uh, this will take many people off of the streets, and it will put those people into the battlefield, and many, many of them will get killed, and... And it will unify the American people during the implosion of the economy, going into the New World Order, it'll be shut up, we're in a war.
02:18:51.000You know, this part of the culling process here as well, they want to wipe out as many people in the world as they can, and this is part of that process, like we saw in the wars since the turn of the century, World War I, World War II, and any other intermediate wars, we'll call them.
02:19:13.000Paul, when we get back, I'm going to give you the floor for the quick segment to read over the details uninterrupted, those key points you made and any others.
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02:24:04.000Chinese mainstream media, as well as French mainstream media, but no English language media whatsoever, are reporting that the RAND Corporation has presented a proposal to the Pentagon, which basically asks that the $700 billion We're good.
02:24:31.000be used to finance a new war against a major foreign power under pretext that that would reinvigorate the stock market and the economy.
02:24:42.000Now the targets of that new war are and China.
02:24:49.000Also mentioned was Iran and another Middle Eastern country.
02:24:54.000And even Japan was mentioned as a possibility for the reason that Japan holds the most U.S.
02:25:03.000So Rand is lobbying the Pentagon to attack Russia or China, but they stressed in the proposal that the war could not be against a small country like Afghanistan or Iraq.
02:25:17.000And, in fact, the analysts for the Chinese media said that North Korea could have been a target, but ruled it out because the proposal directly stresses that it has to be a large, influential foreign power.
02:25:32.000Now, Paul, be sure and make the point that Rand is at the highest level of decision-making.
02:25:37.000I mean, they are the most important think tank.
02:25:40.000Executive action militarily, they're the ones that commissioned 20 years ago at least to have MIT come up with what they call the control grid over the American people now.
02:26:06.000They proposed having Delta Force and police train and the military do drills in cities 20 years ago to condition us for the future military occupation.
02:26:15.000And now, Bob Chapman, what concerns me most is we have all these world leaders saying, huge military crisis coming in the new year that will be very unpopular.
02:26:26.000And I guess they already snuck attack Russia through Georgia Do you think they're really that out of control?
02:26:34.000They say, we've got the power, why not go for it?
02:26:36.000I mean, just totally evil on the face of it.
02:26:40.000Well, I think that because of these cryptic messages from Powell, as an example, that others already know about this who are in the inner circle, so to speak.
02:26:51.000And I think he was trying to give a warning, like Eisenhower did at the end of his term.
02:27:00.000And I believe that they are going to do it.
02:27:05.000I don't see anywhere else they've got to go.
02:27:07.000I mean, if you look at what's going on worldwide, the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve are, through swap agreements or loans, are supplying every government in the world with money to keep them afloat.
02:27:28.000financial fear, whether it's in brokerage houses, investment banks, or insurance companies.
02:27:33.000But how do you attack people who've got intercontinental ballistic supersonic missiles?
02:27:39.000Well, they obviously are willing to give up cities like New York, maybe even Washington, and other major cities to take out Moscow and other large Russian or Shanghai, Chinese cities. Look, if they go after Russia, China is going to get involved.
02:28:10.000Well, yeah, I mean, the special forces are going to...
02:28:17.000the ground ribs are going to start using nukes anti-personnel nukes and then the chinese and russians are just gonna pull them out it'll escalate to the highest level of destruction and uh...
02:28:32.000uh... happened at the people Well, this isn't the 19...
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02:33:08.000So merrily rejected It was an inside job Like it always is Talk it up To business as usual Remember last Friday A CNBC host Big head of a huge investment firm Time to pull up the PrisonPlanet.com article *music*
02:33:37.000Paul, do you have that article in the name of the investor?
02:33:47.000It wasn't an article, it was a YouTube clip.
02:33:50.000No, I know that, but you posted it and I don't have it in front of me.
02:33:55.000Give me a minute, I'll find it for you.
02:33:58.000Alright, I'm going to go back to Bob Chapman before you finish up and we're going to let you with more information pop back in.
02:34:03.000We're going to let you get out of here and finish the article and come back on later.
02:34:07.000But Bob, how could this elite think that they could start wars with Russia and China or sneak attack them a month and a half ago?
02:34:14.000I mean, we've always had corrupt evil people running things for the last 60, 70, 80 years, but it really seems like they're divorced from reality.
02:34:26.000Yeah, we've said that over and over again, and that's the only conclusion, uh, why people would do such things.
02:34:34.000Uh, I think there's another aspect to this that most people wouldn't notice in this warfare.
02:34:41.000And you mentioned the situation in Georgia and South of Cynthia and, and the other province there.
02:34:49.000And yes, that was a baited attempt to bring Russia into a full-blown war, which didn't work, at least for this side, so to speak.
02:35:01.000But after that, we had the credit crisis, which has been going on for more than a year now.
02:35:08.000But all of a sudden, money was being pulled out of Russia.
02:35:14.000And the Russian stock market got beat up very, very badly, like China had before that.
02:35:26.000They had gold in foreign exchange reserves, I would say perhaps three months ago, of just under $600 billion, which is the third largest in the world.
02:35:38.000And the figures I get in this morning, for the weekend of October 24, was $484.7 billion.
02:35:47.000So I think that the people within the Illumina structure have been not only from the United States but from Europe.
02:35:56.000Have been waging financial war on Russia for the last few months.
02:36:00.000And I think that's part and parcel of this.
02:36:04.000This morning on CNBC's Squawk Box, Jeffrey Sott of Raymond James, a huge firm, stated that Paulson and the Illuminati of the country are responsible for the economic chaos in Russia.
02:36:17.000He's one of the directors of that multi-billion dollar company.
02:36:20.000Here he is talking about the Illuminati running all this.
02:36:22.000we are less so at least you're getting back to the play we can start to look at fundamentals and that's good news and what what happened i think i think you're in a liquidation phase i think kursin had exactly right i think there's a bunch of wrong-footed moves by i think paulson uh... in the illuminati of the country if you will and i think we're paying for right now
02:36:45.000And they're saying stuff like that all over TV, and all these fiction TV shows are about the evil New World Order coming over, and trying to take over, and Biden's calling for a New World Order twice yesterday.
02:36:59.000I mean, they're just out in the open, Bob!
02:37:02.000Yeah, and they know we know it, and your program and programs like yours have been responsible for the word getting to the public, and for that gentleman to have said what he said on that program.
02:37:16.000I mean, when Ed Griffith and Gary Allen and Alan Stang and I started back in the early 60s, I mean, nobody talked about the Illuminati except people who had studied it.
02:37:29.000Now the world knows, and that's wonderful.
02:37:37.000Well, bottom line, the New World Order always wants to keep the West down.
02:37:40.000Any independent Western nation not under the control of the Anglo-American Dutch system.
02:37:47.000So, Britain and the U.S. openly funded the Bolsheviks, murdered 60 million people, got control of it, the Russians threw that off, and then we have this fake right-wing propaganda that, oh, they're still commies, they're gonna get us.
02:37:59.000Meanwhile, you know, the government's really funding communism here.
02:38:02.000And now they're going after Russia as hard as they can.
02:38:05.000I'm not saying Russia's run by good people either.
02:38:06.000The point is they're nothing compared to the New World Order.
02:38:08.000So they're trying to start a war with them because they can't have a unipolar world with sovereign individuals.
02:38:15.000And it's because they hate the people of the West.
02:38:28.000Uh, they've only been hoisted on their own petard, as far as I know, twice in the last thousand years, which was in 1348 and then in the early 1600s.
02:38:46.000Well, with Templars and then it was the collapse of the Lombard system in 1348, which that year was accompanied by the Great Plague in Europe, which wiped out half the population, and then the fall of the Hanseatic That was out of Germany?
02:39:06.000Germany and Italy, yeah, with the Hanseonic Knights.
02:39:28.000Paul Watts is going to be back the last 20 minutes of the show after his big article at PrisonPlanet.com was posted and we're so conditioned to accept evil now that, oh, the Wren Corporation, it's just big international news, no one knows in the U.S. or England.
02:39:40.000We're over here in our little bubble cocoon.
02:39:42.000Oh, it's all over the major papers that they know the U.S. is planning to sneak attack them, but it's not the U.S., it's this criminal group.
02:39:49.000And they've got all their deep underground bases and the rest of it they've been building for 50 years, God help us.
02:39:53.000Paul, run through those facts one more time and some other caveats you didn't add.
02:39:57.000You know, the good news is, uh, Mike, you're putting in the article, you mentioned him during the break to make sure and point out, Fox Fallon, they ordered him to attack Iran, he said no.
02:40:07.000They had two previous commanders of CENTCOM say no.
02:40:11.000And so the good news is, even their, and he was a CFR New World Order guy, they're still not suicidal.
02:40:16.000They're still not, you know, start World War III.
02:41:16.000I mean, these people already own the world.
02:41:18.000Why do they have to run around and start World War III?
02:41:23.000They know better what is good for us than we do.
02:41:27.000And so they must be the imperial leaders in the future and we must be their slaves.
02:41:34.000And that's really what it boils down to in the final analysis because most of them have far more wealth than they could ever spend in a hundred lifetimes.
02:41:42.000And so it's really power and shaping the world the way that they want it to be shaped.
02:41:49.000And us taking our place in their future world I mean, goodness gracious, we've seen so many books and expostulations on the subject in the last hundred years of people who are connected to these secret societies and they've cried out and said what they want to do and they're going for it.
02:42:11.000And if they don't subject us this time, they know it's all over because there's too many people like us out there who are not going to let them do it again.
02:42:34.000The troops are going to see people on the news begging them to come in.
02:42:38.000Then there's going to be staged insurgencies and real violence and then the troops are going to have to fight for their lives against the American people and then that will be on the news and set the precedent and then international forces six months, a year, Two years.
02:42:53.000And this has all been drawn out by these Rand bastards and even the stuff that's declassified.
02:42:58.000And I mean, they say, what cold-bloodedly dominates for Wall Street and the far and backs?
02:43:04.000I mean, Thomas Barnett, the head of the Naval War College, he openly says it's on C-SPAN.
02:43:10.000You are seen literally as like a gallon of oil on the ground, a barrel of oil.
02:43:15.000You are seen as a human resource They are all about the cold-bloodedness of it.
02:43:20.000I think they're higher than us because they're cold-blooded.
02:43:22.000And as the PNAC documents say, we got the power, we got the nukes, we got the space-based weapons, we got the particle beams, a lot of other secret stuff.
02:43:30.000And they say, we're gonna impoverish our people, we're gonna attack other nations, we're gonna sterilize people, we're gonna put poison in the water, we're gonna do it.
02:43:40.000Because we're dominant, and that's the way it is.
02:43:43.000And they're gonna set it up where you beg for it, folks.
02:45:16.000But my whole point is, the police and military and government people, whether they know it or not, they're really in the same boat as us.
02:45:24.000And that's what's so sick about this trick of the New World Order, is they always play one phase off against the next, when it's really a war against all of us.
02:45:32.000Right, and, um, you know, they get their paycheck.
02:45:36.000And that has a lot to do with the way they, uh, you know, they act, up to a certain point.
02:45:41.000And, you know, I've talked to generals who say, you know, 90% of the military will not shoot their own people.
02:45:48.000And if the other 10% do, the other 90% will shoot them.
02:45:52.000And so the same applies to law enforcement through public employees.
02:46:00.000They're just not going to do that in America.
02:46:02.000Maybe in some countries they might, but they're not going to do it in America.
02:46:06.000And it's where I think they're missing the boat in that they're bringing foreign troops.
02:46:10.000It is the worst conceivable thing that they can do.
02:46:13.000Yeah, remember, we were the kooks, the weirdos, warning of that when we had the documents and sources.
02:46:59.000According to reports out of top Chinese mainstream news outlets, the Rand Corporation recently presented a shocking proposal to the Pentagon.
02:47:07.000In which it lobbied for a war to be started with a major foreign power in an attempt to stimulate the American economy and prevent a recession.
02:47:16.000A fierce debate has now ensued in China about who that foreign power may be, with China itself as well as Russia and even Japan suspected to be the targets of aggression.
02:47:27.000The reports cite French media news sources as having uncovered the proposal, in which Rand suggested that the $700 billion that has been earmarked The
02:48:05.000Ronald L. Olsen, Counsel on Foreign Relations, Luminary, and former Secretary of Labor, and Carl Bildt, top Bilderberg member and former Swedish Prime Minister.
02:48:15.000Carl Lucci was chairman of the Carlisle Group from 1989 to 2005, and oversaw gargantuan profits the defense contractor made in the aftermath of 9-11, following the invasion of Afghanistan.
02:48:28.000The Carlisle Group has also received investment money from the Bin Laden family.
02:48:34.000Reportedly, the RAND proposal brazenly urged that a new war could be launched to benefit the economy, but stressed that the target country would have to be a major influential power and not a smaller country on the scale of Afghanistan or Iraq.
02:48:49.000The reports have prompted a surge of public debate and tension in China about the possibility that a new global conflict is on the horizon.
02:48:58.000China's biggest media outlet, Sohu.com, that's S-O-H-U.com, speculated that the target of the new war would probably be Russia or China, but that it could also be Iran or another Middle Eastern country.
02:49:12.000Japan was also mentioned as a potential target for the reason that Japan holds the most U.S.
02:49:18.000debt. North Korea was considered as a target, but ruled out because the scale of such a war would not be large enough for random requirements.
02:49:27.000The reported RAND proposal dovetails with recent comments made by Joe Beden, Co., I would just add specifically, Powell, name the date.
02:49:50.000I would add, don't forget the sneak attack on Russia through Georgia.
02:49:55.000And I would just add the fact that the Pentagon said last week, no, Tuesday, they need a huge crisis In fact, I think Steve wrote an article about that.
02:50:08.000I mean, I got children, man, and I just want all the punks in government to know I don't appreciate your evil.
02:50:15.000I mean, it isn't enough to steal everything and to urinate all over the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but you gotta go start nuclear wars.
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02:54:13.000is the norm for governments to kill tens of millions of people.
02:54:19.000Close to three million Iraqis are confirmed dead in the last 18 years of liberation.
02:54:24.000Half of those dead under the hands of the new world order in the last five and a half years alone.
02:54:31.000And you foolishly sat there in your easy chairs calling them subhuman.
02:54:37.000Saying that they weren't people and that it was funny and cute.
02:54:41.000If you think the New World Order cares about you one bit more than they care about those Iraqis, you got another thing coming.
02:54:49.000In fact, they feared those Iraqis because they were old world, separate from the New World Order.
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02:56:30.000About why the elite is doing this and the fact that they are going for broke, and one of the few things that can turn this around in your educated opinion, give us your analysis.
02:56:39.000Well, we've got a shot here at the election and in Congress, and that is removing the incumbents.
02:56:49.000If it happens, Other than that, I don't see anything on the horizon.
02:56:54.000The Illuminists control the politicians, the bureaucrats, most everything.
02:57:01.000There is a faction within the military, and certainly in the retired military, that could act and take over the United States government.
02:57:12.000And I think that's probably our only hope in the interim between now and perhaps the next year.
02:57:20.000And if that doesn't materialize, then it's going to be exactly the way Alex has said it's going to be, and I have for such a long time, unfortunately.
02:57:32.000And so that's where it's all headed, and those are our shots.
02:57:37.000otherwise you're gonna have to fight all to be clear here that i am never You know, in history, it's not good to have the military take over.
02:57:46.000But it's already done that, the military for the executive that's controlled by foreign banks.