In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg is joined by documentary filmmaker, musician, and Bill Hicks' producer, Kevin Booth, to discuss the war on drugs and the push for legalization of marijuana.
00:00:00.000For the next 52 minutes, we're joined by documentary filmmaker, musician, good friend of mine, Kevin Booth, also Bill Hicks' producer.
00:00:16.000His program, of course, American Drug War, has aired, I don't know how many times, forty times or something, last time I heard, on Showtime.
00:00:27.000We happen to have the DVD available at Infowars.com.
00:00:31.000Two-hour film and three hours of extras for $19.95 and you fund the filmmaking work of Kevin Booth.
00:00:39.000But he's here because we've got the election coming up and there's different initiatives around the country to try to decriminalize Some of the drugs the government uses to get involved in our lives that they tend to ship in as well.
00:00:53.000And we also have an expert joining us later in the interview, friends with Kevin.
00:00:57.000We've got the founder and executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, a New York City based non-profit organization working to end the war on drugs.
00:01:05.000He's considered one of the most outspoken advocates of drug legalization.
00:01:08.000Kevin, I appreciate you sub-setting him up for the show today.
00:01:11.000When is he scheduled to join us on the transmission?
00:01:14.000As soon as he gets out, he's on an Amtrak heading for his office right now, so as soon as he can get off of the train, so it'll be in the end of the hour.
00:01:27.000Tell us, well, I mean, number one, let's get into some of the initiatives that are going on right now.
00:01:34.000Well, this is Proposition 5 here in California, and it's basically just, it's
00:01:44.000Put it this way, the drugs are, the prisons, the massive prison guard unions, which I don't even cover in my film, which are very powerful out here, are working hard to stop this thing because what they try to do, which they've been very successful with in my film covers, is they make one single category out of non-violent drug offenders and rapists and murderers and they try to make it
00:02:12.000So if you get caught growing a pot plant that you're gonna go and sit in jail with some guy who murdered and raped everybody.
00:02:20.000Well, that's because, what, eighty-something percent of drug users only smoke marijuana.
00:05:29.000I mean, we've got the vast majority of the public in every poll saying decriminalize marijuana, at least.
00:05:35.000And all these states are trying to decriminalize it, but the feds rove around attacking people.
00:05:40.000I mean, I don't see how they're going to get away with this drug war forever, so now they're trying to tie marijuana in with terrorism.
00:05:46.000Yeah, that was like one of the things that Bush did, you know, right around the creation of the Patriot Act, and coming out with that campaign that's in my film, the Nick and Norm campaign, where if you buy marijuana, you support terrorism.
00:06:01.000I think it's true, because it is true.
00:06:06.000The guys at the dinner table going, oh, it's just because I smoke a little weed.
00:06:09.000What's funny about it is that I actually got the copy of that film, because I think the guy that plays Nick is actually a struggling actor out here in L.A., and some guy from an editing studio had his actor reel, and we were like, look at this actor's acting reel, and he was like Nick from Nick and Norm, and like fell over, dying laughing.
00:06:42.000Tell the story about how you're flying around the country on the speaker's circuit, all these universities, institutions, people want to hear from you, with your award-winning film, and how they're trying to stop you from coming to the universities.
00:06:55.000Well, first of all, I want to say the biggest conspiracy right now are the people making money off bottled water.
00:07:01.000If you travel as much as I do, the biggest scam going at the airport right now is, uh, give us your bottle of water on this side of this thing, and then you cross through this thing, and then you go, here, you can buy another bottle of water from us, and then they throw all these bottles of water in this giant thing, and they probably Move them around back and re-consolidate them and sell them to you.
00:07:18.000I swear, I was like, what are you going to do with all that water?
00:07:21.000Are you going to give it to prisoners or something?
00:07:38.000And somebody there on the faculty, some woman on the faculty started passing around an email to everybody Telling them that she was very upset that they were bringing me in as a speaker and that the young students didn't need to be exposed to something this controversial right before an election.
00:07:55.000And then tell them the ultimate piece of evidence of your evil.
00:07:58.000She said, I discovered that Mr. Booth had worked on Ninja Bachelor Party.
00:08:09.000I mean, it's you and Bill Hicks acting stupid, you know, acting like you're going to ninja Ninja bachelor parties is like, that's my own Bill Ayers moment, right?
00:09:32.000The kids come to my show later and they thought that I had set them up because I'm like the cool guy that gets up there and I'm like, how many people in the audience do drugs?
00:10:00.000There are these bigger and bigger organizations forming, filled with former narcotics officers and others, that go in public saying it's all complete bull.
00:12:11.000But no, he'll come on as a guest, I believe, for sure.
00:12:14.000What is the system going to do when, like, 98% of the public has smoked marijuana at one time or not in their life, but they're still putting everybody in jail for it?
00:12:25.000I think they're getting ready to have the 20 million man march somewhere, or something like that, that's going to mark the 20 millionth marijuana arrest or something taking place in March.
00:12:35.000Well, my mom remembers going to the University of Texas back in the mid-60s.
00:12:39.000If they caught you with marijuana, it was like 50 years in prison.
00:12:43.000I just got back from Tulsa, Oklahoma, where some guy met his best friend, got six years for like a half a bag.
00:12:51.000Meanwhile, it's really in the histories that they grew tons of not just hemp for rope and sails and cloth, but they grew the type of marijuana that actually has THC in it all over the colonies, they exported it all over the world, and that for stomachaches, all the same things it's medically used for today, that was one of the apothecaries that they gave to the barbers or the doctors.
00:13:13.000But barbers were like, for those watching, kind of like mainline, general, kind of like a nurse that you'd go to.
00:13:18.000Then they had doctors that were few and far between.
00:13:21.000But that was one of their favorite remedies was marijuana.
00:13:29.000They've got copies of the old manuals where it talks about have them smoke the bud, the sexual organ of the plant, That has the better effect.
00:13:40.000And then you can read where, even when he was president, you see George Washington's doctors for toothaches saying, smoke this in your pipe.
00:14:30.000And then you move into the The cannabis thing, and they're like, oh, we got this Marinol pill, or it's like taking one would be like, you know, it's just nothing.
00:14:38.000Well, remember Rush Limbaugh over and over again said he would defend those cocaine laws against blacks, where if it was crack cocaine, you get 20 years, but if it was a lawyer with powdered cocaine, you get a month or whatever, or probation.
00:14:51.000And Limbaugh still defends that, even though he was caught taking 100 plus Oxycontins a day.
00:14:56.000And what's even more ridiculous about that law Is that powdered cocaine is four times stronger than crack.
00:15:03.000As far as like how much cocaine in it.
00:15:04.000Crack is actually like poor man's coke.
00:15:07.000You know, it's actually kind of like a rip-off really.
00:15:10.000They mix it with baking soda and it actually has very little cocaine in it.
00:15:14.000I know it's addictive but it's just, you know, but that's what makes it classic.
00:16:23.000Let's get into the numbers, and they vary year to year, but it's always massive, of what prescription drugs and alcohol kill and cigarettes kill versus the devilish Mary Jane.
00:16:34.000Well, the numbers in my film are that tobacco kills about 450,000 a year, half a million a year.
00:17:30.000You know, and then marijuana, basically, It is physically impossible for marijuana to shut down your heart or to stop your respiration.
00:17:40.000If somebody could physically, you couldn't smoke enough to OD.
00:17:44.000Suppose like you melted it down into some substance and you drank it down like cough syrup, 10 pounds of marijuana.
00:17:52.000The worst that would happen is you would fall asleep.
00:17:54.000You'd probably wake up and maybe like trip and crack your head on the refrigerator while you're trying to like... The worst you're going to do is raid 7-Eleven for Blue Bell Dutch Chocolate.
00:18:20.000It's a way of, so it's not so much smoke, but vapor, and it's better for your lungs.
00:18:26.000It just puts it in this superheated chamber, and then a lot of these higher end vaporizers, what it does is it shoots the vapor into a plastic bag, and then you inhale the vapor from the plastic bag, I actually tried that in Amsterdam, and it's just very, very cool, because really, smoking anything is not good for you.
00:18:46.000Yeah, it's hot, there's the tars, it parches your throat.
00:18:49.000That's why people use water pipes and all those types of things, it's all about trying to cool the smoke and not having this hot, burning thing.
00:18:56.000The ultra-weed heads now supposedly have those big vaporizers, but in a room, like a chamber.
00:19:03.000Yeah, I mean, you know, you can buy all kinds of stuff and it's big business, big business.
00:19:08.000I'll tell you what the big business right now is this fake urine, synthetic urine.
00:19:16.000And there's things called the Wizenator, you ever seen a Wizenator?
00:19:20.000And that's to get around the drug test, right?
00:19:24.000I'm not going to explain what it is over the radio here, but people can Google Wizenator.
00:22:17.000The whole war on drugs, for those that don't know, is about cutting out their competition at the border and sending troops in to kill growers of coca and other things in Columbia.
00:22:28.000And then domestically, it's about putting you in jail.
00:22:35.000I've even heard G. Gordon Liddy laughing on radio going, eh, we're spraying your weed with poison, go ahead and smoke it, you're going to get cancer.
00:22:45.000But that's, I mean, but really that's what anybody who thinks this is either a conspiracy theory or that thinks drugs are like, but drugs are bad, but drugs are bad, you know, this is not funny to joke about.
00:22:56.000You just need to keep telling, you gotta know though that the people that are doing this are getting rich off of it, and that's what's propelling it all.
00:23:03.000You know, that's... Well, it's like from Chicago to Dallas where the cops throw fake chalk in your car and just take it because they want it.
00:23:11.000I mean, I've read Seattle Post-Intelligencer articles where the majority of bars are now owned by cops.
00:23:16.000They go sell drugs to themselves in the bathroom, then they seize your bar, and then it's so corrupt the cops then hand the bars to their buddies.
00:23:25.000But Alex, we got a brand new Humvee out of it.
00:26:05.000And they're all pushing for global domination.
00:26:08.000And somehow they convinced the public that didn't exist and that government was loving and didn't have any avarice or any, you know, bad aims.
00:26:15.000I mean, have you been watching the news where they're just announcing world government to be run by the private banks and it doesn't matter, they're the ones that engineered it and it's all over the news.
00:26:22.000Even the New York Times reports they're just keeping the money for the shareholders and $500 million bonuses for CEOs.
00:26:29.000You have to ask, though, that what kind of a world are they going to have for themselves if they turn this entire planet into a giant toilet?
00:26:37.000Well, they believe that that actually secures their power.
00:26:44.000Because that makes us easier to manage.
00:26:46.000They don't want upright, strong, good people with good morals.
00:26:49.000They want just a bunch of, you know, globalist controllers and a bunch of evil, backstabbing scum down on the bottom all fighting with each other over diminishing resources.
00:27:42.000Yeah, so is Cheney, where they can, you know... Well, Cheney likes girls, he likes boys, but... I'm serious, I mean, you know, for a Michael Jackson win, it's where you can do what you want.
00:27:55.000Do you think she's for real, or do you think they just picked her knowing that she was going to make everybody just so... I mean... No, no, she's meant to make McCain lose.
00:28:04.000That's why they ran a guy who's a cancer patient.
00:28:34.000But I mean, you know, Our own people are drinking the Kool-Aid on this Obama guy.
00:28:40.000I'm just saying, though, that do you think they created Sarah Palin, or do you think they just picked her because knowing how it was really going to go over?
00:28:51.000Well, that's how they pick you, is you've already been compromised, you've already gone through the system, they already know your modus operandi, they already know your type, and then they select you.
00:29:03.000So the answer is both, Kevin, in my humble opinion.
00:29:23.000Do you think she's really like that, or do you think that's just part of this whole act that they've portrayed to make you hate this person?
00:29:29.000No, there's nothing to do in Alaska but shoot a caribou out of helicopters.
00:29:33.000Right, so you really think that's really her?
00:29:35.000Oh yeah, she's got the husband that's all into it.
00:29:52.000I watch them eat bugs up in the light at night.
00:29:54.000And, you know, I'll close the door and cut one in half and I can pick up its little bloody body and dig a little hole and bury it, put a little cross there, you know.
00:30:02.000I mean, I don't like... As I've gotten older, And more maternal, I guess.
00:30:08.000But at the same time, people will say, don't hunt, it's evil.
00:31:20.000I mean, how do they get that in their head that they can shove cameras down our throats and put them in restaurant bathrooms, but we're not supposed to film them?
00:32:18.000CNN will be shooting with 44 cameras at each location simultaneously, 20 computers at the site, combined with New York's office hardware.
00:32:25.000We'll process and project an image into the studio.
00:32:27.000The subject will see Mr. Blitzer and other CNNers on TVs at the locations so they can communicate with them properly.
00:32:35.000And I say it's just going to be like Princess Leia, but full size.
00:32:40.000Too bad they couldn't have like a giant Obama standing on top of the Empire State Building, addressing the world.
00:32:47.000Well, that's what they're doing over Dallas and other places with all these big flying saucers.
00:32:51.000If you look at the phenomenon, most of those are high-powered holograms, which the Pentagon even admitted in the 80s they were developing to fool people.
00:33:00.000Look, I guarantee you, they're going to have Jesus pop up and tell everybody to take the microchip and they're going to do it.
00:33:07.000It'll be like in Monty Python, a big, TAKE THE CHIP!
00:33:20.000Bin Laden, on the eve of this election, like every other election, is going to pop up with a new video for us.
00:33:25.000And the government, of course, can announce that beforehand for us to get the media all hyped.
00:33:28.000I mean, how staged does this have to get?
00:33:30.000I know, actually, I've got a friend of mine, T-Sean, he's a writer at Saturday Night Live, and I kept telling him, I was like, you guys should do a, you guys gotta do like a Ben Laden press release skit, you know, it would be perfect, you know, but have it where they're in a cave and it looks just like the White House press room with an official Al Qaeda flag, an official Al Qaeda logo behind them and everything like that.
00:33:57.000And you could have the McCain character dressed up in a tribal thing, I don't know.
00:34:04.000Well, I mean, when the Intel Center that uploads these keeps uploading the video with their logo in the same video layer as Al Qaeda's logo... They really think we're stupid, Kevin, I tell you.
00:34:20.000You know, we laugh about it, but The big thing is they're getting ready for bioweapons releases.
00:34:27.000And if people don't think people running our government won't kill 30, 40 million of us, you've got another thing coming.
00:34:33.000Do you think it's a bad thing that so many young kids have gotten enthusiastic about Obama?
00:34:40.000Yeah, it's bad because, see, they're taking all the discontent and making people think it's different because the guy has a different colored skin.
00:35:04.000But the American people have never seen a scam they didn't love, so you know.
00:35:10.000I mean, Kevin, they're openly taking all the bailout money and giving it to none of the in trouble institutions and just hoarding it all and giving it to themselves as bonuses.
00:35:18.000And the New York Times even reports, I've got the quotes right here, New York Times Came out yesterday.
00:35:27.000I'm not talking about legal insider trading by corporate officers that financial press follows.
00:35:32.000I'm talking about the ministers and executives and it just goes on into all of it.
00:35:38.000And it's got the New York Times here with the quotes.
00:35:41.000It's got them recording the Goldman Sachs executives just bragging about how it's a great opportunity for them to consolidate and buy up more banks and give themselves record bonuses.
00:37:27.000And so now they're saying, OK, maybe we'll take $50 million of the multi-trillion, it's not $100 billion, and maybe we'll give $50 billion to banks that actually have mortgage trouble.
00:37:48.000Here's the JP Morgan CEO as recorded by the New York Times in a banking teleconference.
00:37:55.000And they're all over the news saying this.
00:37:57.000He says, What we do think is it will help us is perhaps a little bit more active on the acquisition side or optimistic side for some banks who are still struggling.
00:38:08.000And I would still assume that we are Done on the acquisition side, just because of the Washington Mutual or Bear Stearns mergers.
00:38:15.000I think there are going to be some great opportunities for us to grow in this environment, and I think we have an opportunity to use the $25 billion in that way, and obviously depending on whether recession turns into depression, or what happens in the future, you know we will have that as a backstop.
00:38:34.000And then he goes on to say they're not going to give any of it to people in loans.
00:38:39.000We've got to do this to get credit going, and they're literally just giving themselves bonuses.
00:38:43.000Goldman Sachs England, just that division, is giving $14 billion in bonuses to their executives.
00:38:51.000Out of the money directly that England gave.
00:39:16.000Well, what do you think is going to happen?
00:39:18.000Do you think, though, that if it comes out and everybody finds out that Obama was a big scam or that everybody becomes quickly disillusioned with the whole Obama thing?
00:39:29.000Don't you think now with all these younger people motivated that We could be closer to some sort of revolution.
00:39:36.000Yeah, and that's why they got the army ready, and the brigades deployed, and the microwave guns.
00:40:41.000Of course, all caused by the drug war.
00:40:43.000Even Mexico is saying decriminalize now, because they are now admitting that that's what's destroyed their country.
00:40:49.000Yeah, didn't even the drug lords agree to some change in the Mexican drug laws?
00:40:56.000Yeah, because the whole society is falling apart.
00:40:58.000I mean, look, the British used drug prohibition in China to bring it down, because they could ship the opium in and then buy off the cops and locals.
00:41:07.000Again, folks, all these drugs would be dirt cheap and be looked down on societally, but you make it illegal and all the bling, then everybody wants to do it.
00:41:14.000I mean, they know what they're doing, folks.
00:41:18.000When they lost alcohol prohibition, they then criminalized drugs.
00:41:22.000Maybe our society's got to just Crumble a little bit for everybody to readjust or something.
00:41:48.000I mean, I just... Again, our government is a rancid, maggot-covered pile of dead meat.
00:41:55.000So what do you think we should do to take the country back?
00:41:58.000We should just point out that it's a pack of criminals running things and delegitimize it so they have no clout so it just grinds to a halt.
00:42:05.000I mean the best thing we can hope for is just a collapse.
00:42:09.000Instead they want to have a controlled collapse to give them total power.
00:42:14.000So we need to have We need to have a system where that doesn't happen, Kevin.
00:42:19.000I'm going to have to have you back up next week, briefly, Kevin, with the guest, because the guest you wanted to set up, Ethan Nadelman, probably got his time zone scrambled, so he never called in.
00:44:46.000I'm joking to the listeners out there.
00:44:49.000I have been more relaxed this week though.
00:44:52.000When are you going to come out to California?
00:44:54.000You know, everybody asks me to come out there, Kev.
00:44:56.000I need to come out there and see, before he moves, he's going to Europe, Tommy Pallotta, I need to see Sheen, I need to see you, I need to see a whole bunch of folks out there.
00:47:04.000And all the delusional, fake do-gooders that back it up in everything they do.
00:47:09.000When they really trashed out a good country, and I've just had enough of it.
00:47:13.000This financial looting thing has really gotten me.
00:47:16.000I hope folks will go to Infowars.com and get American Drug War, filmed by Kevin Booth.
00:47:20.000Two hour film, three hours of extras, really about two or three films in one.
00:47:23.000Endgame, Terror Storm, just all the great films we carry and have made at Infowars.com or 888-253-3139.
00:47:32.000Uh, Kevin, in the last few minutes, tell me about the proposition out in California so the criminal goons that run the government can't grab the people and the non-violent marijuana heads and put them in the slave systems.
00:47:44.000Okay, well, it's known as NORA, the Non-Violent Offender Rehabilitation Act.
00:47:49.000It's, uh, Proposition 5 will cut state costs and it's, um, It's being backed by a lot of good people and it's being fought against by some really bad people.
00:48:03.000Yeah, the people who are profiting from running the prison.
00:48:05.000The parasites, the pot-bellied demon creatures.
00:48:08.000Absolutely, and really, they are going to lose a lot of money if they can't keep all these Um, non-violent drug offenders behind bars for years and years and years because that's how they make their profit.
00:48:20.000Well now they're shifting into the fake environmental stuff.
00:48:22.000You'll get prison time for a little battery falling out of your car in the backyard.
00:48:28.000If you don't live in California, but you know someone who does, make sure that, tell them to vote yes on Proposition 5 because I'll tell you, Uh, you know, if you just watch mainstream TV as I do, uh, it's kind of getting its butt kicked, in my opinion.
00:48:42.000These, these little, uh, heroin dealers who rape your children!
00:48:46.000No, it is, really, and it has that, uh, that Feinstein woman on here, who's actually, you know, she's actually on the right side of several issues, so it's a very, very sneaky... Demonstein?
00:49:13.000The government made all the stuff, the base ingredients of meth illegal, so the scum that makes it has to then find all these other sub-ingredients, so then it's full of all these toxins and poisons.
00:51:44.000I want to physically attack them and their dog.
00:51:47.000And then the rest of the time, these people always get a dog and always attacks their niece or attacks the dog or kills the neighbor's cat or kills their own dog.
00:52:03.000And I'm just getting tired of these people with their dogs attacking all of us and then making excuses about it.
00:52:10.000Well here in California what you have is that people have a pitbull that attacked or killed something or somebody and instead of putting it to sleep they don't have the heart so they take it to one of these rehabilitation shelters and then some unlikely dumbass comes and he adopts it And then takes it to an off-leash park where it comes and practically kills you.
00:52:28.000You know, I actually found Ruttiger down by AXS TV.
00:52:31.000And then I took him in and then Hank had him and then kept him and gave him to you.