On this episode of Prison Planet Earth, Alex Jones talks to Iran's Press TV about the upcoming presidential election and what it means for the future of the country and the world. He also talks about his experience being on Iran's International Press TV and why he decided to come on the show.
00:01:58.000Again, it is also on around the world so that is coming up and again you'll be able to watch it all uninterrupted at prison planet dot tv i have to Multitask a lot with what I do to be able to maximize getting the word out.
00:02:17.000Would I love to go speak in your city or go speak in England or go speak in Croatia or Russia or Japan as I've been invited?
00:02:24.000Would I love to be able to take my children to the Pacific Northwest and see whales as my wife dreams of doing?
00:02:30.000But every day I can sit here in the bunker reading, researching, doing radio interviews, doing TV interviews and having a huge effect.
00:02:40.000And so that's why I'm doing this and that's why I can't come up to say Kansas City, KCXL invited me up there to speak to crowds.
00:02:47.000Last time I was there was about a thousand people.
00:02:49.000I can't do the things I want to do because we are affecting the biggest amount of change here over AM and FM, over the interviews I'm doing, over PrisonPlanet.tv, and with all of you that are taking the audio of this show and putting it all over the internet, on the file sharing networks, everywhere else.
00:03:10.000Okay, I'm ready to go ahead and go to him.
00:04:38.000Well, you know, we're so happy for having you on the show.
00:04:41.000Not just me, like everybody here is so happy.
00:04:44.000And the other day I was talking to Mr. Trey and I was telling him how wonderful you are and how we really appreciate your being on our show.
00:06:00.000By the way, by the way, about the show that we have on Wednesday, I have to talk to the transmission department, and then as soon as we know that the, I mean, the, I mean, we can, we'll be able to book a studio, I'll let you know.
00:09:56.000We're joined from London by Dr. James Boyce, assistant professor of international political studies at Richmond.
00:10:01.000The American International University in London and founder of the Resolute Group from Austin, Texas.
00:10:06.000We're joined by Wayne Slater, author and senior political writer with the Dallas Morning News, co-author of Bush's Brain, How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential.
00:10:15.000By the phone, we're joined from Austin, Texas again by Alex Jones, investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, owner of InfoWords.
00:10:26.000Welcome to the show, but straight to our first pick, Agence France-Presse, Obama in command on eve of U.S.
00:10:33.000Barack Obama is huge on the threshold of history on Monday, as polls gave the Democrats a solid lead over John McCain on the last day of campaigning for the most dramatic U.S.
00:10:45.000But McCain, who has no room for error in the tense battle for a handful of toss-up states About to confound the pollsters and wrench victory from the African-American Obama's grasp on Tuesday.
00:10:59.000The 47-year-old Democrat stressed the historic nature of his quest to be America's first black president, striking an optimistic tone as thresholds gave him a white leap and heaped further pressure on McCain.
00:11:11.000He said, quote, This is a defining moment in our history, Obama wrote in an article published Monday in the Wall Street Journal.
00:11:17.000Tomorrow, I ask you to write Our nation's next great chapter.
00:11:23.000If you give me your vote, we won't just win this election together.
00:11:27.000We will change this country and change the world.
00:11:30.000McCain, a 72-year-old former prisoner of war in Vietnam, was defiant.
00:11:34.000My opponent, he said, quote, is measuring the drape to the White House, he said, as he wrapped up a frenzied day of campaigning with a midnight rally in Miami.
00:11:43.000The Mac is back, he said, quote, and we're going to win this election.
00:11:48.000And of course, the polls give it all to Obama.
00:11:50.000New Wall Street Journal NBC News poll put Obama at 51% of 43%.
00:11:54.000CNN's latest poll on Sunday had Obama with a 53% to 46% edge.
00:12:00.000The Washington Post ABC News poll gave him 54% to 43%.
00:12:04.000Rasmussen said he was at 51% of McCain's 46%.
00:12:18.000Well, I think the polls really indicated Barack Obama's year.
00:12:22.000I just got off the plane, I spent almost a week with Barack Obama, before that a week with John McCain, and the Obama campaign is very, very confident.
00:12:32.000What we're seeing here is a remarkable, not only campaign by Barack Obama, if he happens to win tomorrow, and I think the expectations are he probably will, but we're seeing a redefinition of who votes for Democrats in America.
00:12:47.000Barack Obama is actually winning right now in some Southern states, something that no one has done and no Democrat has done since 1976, when Jimmy Carter, a fellow Southerner, won.
00:12:58.000You see Barack Obama challenging in a state like North Carolina, part of the Old South, where 40% of the registered voters have already voted, most of them are Democrats, and if Barack Obama wins there and in Virginia, as well as the other states that he's expected to pick up
00:13:15.000It not only will be a victory for the first African-American, an historic victory, but also a rather astonishing reconfiguration of the electoral map, which shows that the South, long Republican territory, might become part Democrat territory starting tomorrow.
00:14:00.000The incredible support that we're witnessing for Barack Obama in almost every poll with leads of 10%, many of them, the smallest only about 5%, show that people don't like the policies of George W. Bush.
00:14:14.000The problem is, and most pundits are predicting a very short honeymoon, including his running mate Joe Biden, For Barack Obama, because he's going to come in, he wants more defense spending, he wants more wars, he wants to go into Afghanistan and expand things.
00:14:28.000Pakistan, he's for the warrantless Fourth Amendment destroying, wiretapping, spying on the American people.
00:14:35.000He's gotten three times the Wall Street money that John McCain has gotten, four times the Goldman Sachs.
00:14:42.000So he's going to be put in tomorrow by the public's outrage and by a media that's been giving him most the attention.
00:14:48.000It's clear that the establishment knows they've ridden their Republican pony as far as they can.
00:14:53.000They want a new, fresh horse, Barack Obama, to give them left cover, to pacify the left, so he can move in, bring in a global carbon tax, acquiesce to the banks who are literally just looting the country of not 800 billion, but trillions of dollars, giving it to themselves in bonuses.
00:15:09.000Barack Obama is probably going to be elected tomorrow, but he's also going to be a huge disappointment for the American people.
00:15:15.000You have a lot of conservatives voting for him because they're so sick of George Bush, but you also have about 30% of the U.S.
00:15:21.000population saying that they're not totally decided, that they don't like either candidate.
00:15:26.000You have Congress with an 11% approval rating.
00:15:29.000Both parties are universally hated now at higher levels than we've ever had in history.
00:15:34.000And so what's going to happen is Barack Obama is going to come into office probably, 95% chance I would say, all the polls show that, and then people are going to see that it's a different face, different rhetoric, a better speaker than George Bush, but that the global corporate institutions that control our executive branch are really in control, and so you're going to see a major crisis here in the United States as things intensify.
00:15:58.000All right, you covered a lot of ground.
00:15:59.000We'll be talking about that, the choices American people have, whether or not the two are true agents for change, either Obama or McCain.
00:16:08.000No other choice, as facts speak for themselves.
00:16:11.000But New York Times goes, Obama is up, and fans fear that jinxes it.
00:16:16.000Let's get a doctor's voice for his speculation.
00:16:18.000Plus, do you see any of this jinx could be nothing Other than the Bradley effect.
00:16:23.000Do you see the Bradley effect simply people not voting black on election day despite all the polling?
00:16:28.000Well, certainly the Bradley effect is something which the Obama campaign are greatly fearing.
00:16:39.000This idea that people could be saying one thing to the pollsters and something else to themselves in private.
00:16:46.000It's certainly got to be fighting away the heart of darkness at the Obama campaign.
00:16:51.000I think, however, that as your polls have revealed, there is enough of a gap between the two candidates at this point.
00:16:58.000There should be sufficient to see Barack Obama coast to victory tomorrow.
00:17:03.000Whether it will be the landslide, which some people had forecast, I think is unlikely.
00:17:08.000We will have to wait and see exactly what the figures emerge.
00:17:11.000But I think it's telling today that we see John McCain very much on the defensive in states that he should have sawn up months ago, and Barack Obama very much on the offensive, campaigning in those states which George Bush took relatively easily in 2004.
00:17:27.000We see John McCain traveling some 3,000 miles today to try to shore up his base, whereas Barack Obama appears to be taking it relatively easy, traveling just under a biome, all reckoning some 700 miles, very much to try to energize the Democrats and get them out to vote.
00:17:42.000Wayne, well, of course, we have McCain saying Obama is perhaps measuring the drapes of the White House Well, he should be, according to the polls.
00:17:52.000But do you see that broadly affect the race factor, changing all the polls come November 4th, that is hours away?
00:18:00.000Yeah, I think Dr. Boyd has it exactly right.
00:18:05.000If this were a close race, if in fact Barack Obama were leading in the polls, In the battleground states and nationally, by one or two percentage points, then I think the potential of the Bradley effect, where people, as he said, might telepolster that they would vote for Barack Obama, but secretly, when they actually go to vote, would not vote for an African-American, then I think the Bradley effect might have an effect.
00:18:30.000But all indications are that even though this race is narrowing to some extent, and is expected to narrow in terms of the voter turnout, that the The margin of victory by Barack Obama, in the key battleground states especially, where he is expected to win by more than 2 or 3 or 4 percent, probably obligates the Bradley effect here.
00:18:54.000If that happens, if in fact some voters are going to not vote for him because he is black, there's no question about that.
00:19:01.000But if he's able to overcome that, it will be a rather remarkable moment in American politics.
00:19:07.000We had slavery in this country 140 years ago.
00:19:12.000And now that we have an African-American who could win the presidency of the United States, you know, 140 years since the 15th Amendment, which allowed the former slaves to vote, is an extraordinary moment.
00:19:26.000So while few Americans may vote against Barack Obama because he is black, The indications are that there is a phenomenon here which is bigger than that, and that it's likely, though I'm not going to predict absolutely, but likely to sweep him into office tomorrow.
00:19:43.000All right, let's take a look at this C-word of change.
00:19:47.000Both campaigns have been talking about change.
00:19:50.000Obama says the change we need, that their change is not authentic, and well, here is what he wrote.
00:19:56.000Again, in the Wall Street Journal, this is a defining moment in our history, and then he said, tomorrow I ask you to write our nation's next great chapter.
00:20:05.000If you give me your vote, we won't just win this election together, we will change this country and change the world!
00:20:13.000Alex Jones, last time Bush said, I'll change the world after 9-11, we need to change.
00:20:17.000What change does Obama really mean, both inside the U.S.
00:20:31.000And Barack Obama has openly called for a million-person youth corps, youth brigades, out-enforcing as intelligence spies.
00:20:40.000He's called for a three million-person environmental squads.
00:20:44.000He's called for shutting down, quote, bankrupting the coal industry that supplies forty-nine percent of all of our power.
00:20:51.000Yeah, he's going to bring in big government.
00:20:53.000I mean, he's talking like he's the Messiah.
00:20:55.000He's running TV ads where he's already sitting in the White House.
00:20:59.000And so what he's going to bring is a lot of grassroots support just because the public thinks they're getting political change because he looks different.
00:21:08.000But instead they're going to get change, the whole George Bush agenda, on steroids.
00:21:15.000That's why You have Barack Obama unpopular on almost every issue.
00:21:20.000The only reason he is popular with the people is because he's from a different party and they're hoping for some type of real change and they're not going to get it.
00:21:29.000What they're going to get is what his running mate called for twice last week, a new world order where the very private banks that have orchestrated the derivatives collapse for a vertical integration, a consolidation They are now openly calling for a world government run by a select group of banks out of London, England that will set and control world taxes, world regulations, stock markets.
00:21:55.000We will buy our carbon credits directly from a private group of central banks.
00:22:01.000And so that is the change that Barack Obama is talking about.
00:22:05.000He is talking about Bringing in more control, more of the same.
00:22:09.000That's why he's getting more corporate contributions and more defense contributions and more big money contributions than John McCain.
00:22:18.000The establishment positioned John McCain to win the Republican primary because they knew they were basically running a political corpse just like the system ran Bob Dole in 1996 against Bill Clinton.
00:22:29.000And so we're all talking about Oh, the first black president.
00:22:32.000While we're all talking about these little side issues, we should, as an American people, talk about the fact that Barack Obama has lied about every major issue.
00:22:43.000He has turned around and stabbed the American people in the back.
00:22:47.000He got the nomination claiming he was going to end the spying, end the police state, end the war, and now Biden and others.
00:22:56.000We're not going to end any of it, basically.
00:22:58.000It's going to be very unpopular, but this is what we're going to do.
00:23:00.000We are going to see more of the New World Order, Neocon agenda, and we document it all at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:23:08.000And so you're going to see massive resistance form in the next few years.
00:23:12.000After the honeymoon is over, and as the United States goes into this orchestrated depression, you're going to see Barack Obama become incredibly unpopular, and we're going to see all sorts of resistance at every level here in the United States, and that's what I'm concerned about, because the left was all against George Bush and his globalist agenda, but now, because Barack Obama is set
00:23:34.000to be launched in there with this whole messianic you know vision talking about he is the one he is coming to save the earth Newsweek calling him the president of the world you know the whole world saying he's this wonderful sweet loving person if you look at what he really is doing he's bringing tyranny and an end to the free market, a crony capitalist system where a select group of interbanks and corporations loot the United States like we saw with Boris Yeltsin and the oligarchs in Russia.
00:24:01.000The United States is being looted from pillar to post by the transnational criminals.
00:24:06.000Joseph Sticklitz on CNBC yesterday called for a world government run by the banks.
00:24:11.000They are coming out against the people.
00:24:13.000All right, let's see if James L. London agrees.
00:24:16.000Well, can I just add, as a political scientist, it's a real honor to be on the show with Wayne Slater tonight, but let me see if I can add some sort of political dimension to that from an international perspective.
00:24:30.000You're going to hear an awful lot over the next 24 hours and moving in through the interregnum until the inauguration about change.
00:24:37.000Change is what we've heard from Barack Obama, of course, over the last 22 months or so.
00:24:42.000But history will dictate that in every presidential election, whilst people talk heavily about change, what you get a great deal of is actually continuity.
00:24:49.000any president coming into office is going to be forced to continue a whole raft of issues.
00:24:55.000And what often changes is the rhetoric.
00:24:57.000Now the rhetoric, as I'm sure many people realize, is important.
00:25:02.000The rhetoric of George Bush really put people's backs up here in Europe, in London, and his whole tone was very aggressive and his demeanor was seen to be very much at odds with the European perspective.
00:25:15.000I think Obama, the change he will initiate, will be one of tone and of an approach, a much more inclusive, multilateral, almost Clinton-esque, I think, approach to foreign policy, which will be much more in keeping with a European perspective.
00:25:30.000And as a result, I think, very much ease America's position in the rest of the world vis-a-vis the countries with which it is tempting to form alliances, both militarily and financial.
00:25:40.000Whoever becomes president has got a series of uphill challenges to face with.
00:25:44.000One could almost ask who would want to be president at this point.
00:25:47.000You've got the war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, and a financial crisis, which is clearly going to dominate their time in office.
00:25:55.000So whatever the candidates promise or pledge on the campaign trail, they're really going to face an uphill struggle in just trying to manage on a day-to-day basis And all these promises about spending and youth movement, I think, will take a secondary place once Obama, if he is installed in the White House, comes to pass.
00:26:15.000Of course, you've been in the planes of both campaigns, but you have had the chance of being in the planes of the two only major campaigns.
00:26:22.000Now, we will be talking about the third parties as well, but does this change?
00:26:42.000I'm sorry, I thought you were going to break there.
00:26:45.000No, look, there's going to be a change.
00:26:46.000Now, it may not be the kind of change that Alex would anticipate, but there's going to be a change.
00:26:52.000There's a difference between Barack Obama, Democratic Party, this approach, and John McCain.
00:26:57.000And part of that change, as Alex said correctly, was this nation is sick and tired of George W. Bush, eight years of the Bush administration, and by extension, the attitude that the rest of the world has about America.
00:27:14.000That much of Europe, much of the rest of the world, doesn't particularly have use for us.
00:27:19.000That the preemption policies with respect to the war of George Bush administration, the economic policies at home, which both Democrats and Republicans have shared to cause big problems, that all of that together has created an environment for significant change.
00:27:34.000You're going to see in a Barack, we'll talk, as you say, more specifically later, but we're going to see an approach in terms of an outreach to Europe and the rest of the world that is more robust than we have seen certainly under the Bush administration.
00:27:47.000But we're also going to see an effort to deal with the economic crisis in a way that is somewhat more sensitive to middle-income Americans, not simply low-wealthy.
00:27:59.000At the same time, there's going to have to be a recognition that capital in the United States, which was part of the problem in terms of a few greedy operators, is going to have to be tended to.
00:28:12.000So there's going to be an element of continuity in the way the Barack Obama administration, if there is one, You know, runs the White House.
00:28:22.000It's approached here in the United States.
00:28:25.000I should say that one area where it will be exactly the same, I think, is if in fact Barack Obama is challenged.
00:28:34.000And Iran is a perfect example of what some Republican conservatives and John McCain and Barack Obama's own running mate suggest.
00:28:44.000Could be an early challenge, a testing of this young president.
00:28:49.000In the event something like that happens, I don't think people ought to be fooled.
00:28:54.000This president would act pretty much like John McCain would act, George Bush would act, a traditional United States president would act, and that would be very strongly to protect United States interests.
00:29:06.000So we have only just a few seconds left to the end of the first half, but something people haven't heard, over 20 parties, third parties, so-called third parties, running.
00:29:17.000But even Americans haven't heard the names of most of these, and they do not know the candidates.
00:29:22.000When we come back, we'll discuss the third parties, why it's only blue and or red, and then the change on the lips of both Barack Obama and his rival, John McCain.
00:32:53.000Fine Friends just hours before the first Tuesday, after the first Monday in November, constitutionally when the Americans are supposed to go to the polls and choose the 44th president of the United States of America.
00:33:07.000We're taking a look at all the controversy surrounding the election, how the world views the election.
00:33:12.000From London, we're joined by Dr. James Boyce, Assistant Professor of International Political Studies at Richmond, the American International University of London, and founder of the Resolute Group.
00:33:21.000From Austin, Texas, we're joined by Wayne Slater, author and senior political writer of Dallas Morning News, co-author of Bush's Brain, How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential.
00:33:29.000By the phone, from Austin, Texas, by Alex Jones, investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, owner of Infowars.com.
00:33:38.000But let's take a look at the website of a few other parties called third parties in the U.S.
00:33:44.000Constitution Party, the Socialist Party USA, the Peace and Freedom Party, the Party of Principle against the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, And of course, the Green Party says the real difference between Democrat and Republican parties.
00:34:04.000Do they represent your interests and values?
00:34:07.000The Democrats talk about the different policies, positions, and priorities we'd see from a Democrat in the White House versus a Republican.
00:34:15.000Most Democrat and Republican politicians, including Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Bush, hold Similar positions on major issues, and that's why we need a real choice to oppose a party that gives power to we the people instead of powerful corporations.
00:34:28.000Then, the site brings up a list of different issues and say where they happen to be the same.
00:34:33.000It says issue, Green Party, Republican, Democrats.
00:34:36.000And it talks about major issues like invasion and occupation of Iraq, where it says Green Party opposes, but Republicans and Democrats both support.
00:34:43.000And when you go to the details, it says even invasion of Iraq, most Democrats, if not Barack Obama, they supported that, they actually signed the authorization, and also still support the Patriot Act, invasion of Afghanistan, these are what Republicans, Democrats, they're all the same, Kosovo War, military budget, Israeli occupation of West Bank and Gaza, global warming, reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, a right to choose, national health,
00:35:11.000Insurance, it goes on and on and on, simply saying they're both the same.
00:35:16.000We've had Alex Jones already saying that, but Alex, back to you, if you have any more comments on whether or not to protect Republicans.
00:35:25.000At the end of the last segment, I was unable to finish what I was saying, so I'd like to finish that, but that dovetails, that connects in to your latest question.
00:35:34.000You know, both your guests are admitting that we're seeing continuity.
00:35:39.000Whether John McCain gets in, or whether Barack Obama gets in, you're going to see continuity.
00:35:43.000And that's because the big multinational corporations, the globalists, who openly own both the major parties, are in control of both of these men.
00:35:53.000And until the 1990s, you could get a third party in the debates.
00:35:58.000You could get other parties in the debates, and then the people could make a choice watching the presidential debates.
00:36:04.000That's why you had Ross Perot getting close to 30%.
00:36:07.000Since then, this private corporation, the Debate Commission, at the pressure from the Republican and Democrats, has closed the debates.
00:36:14.000And so, we need to have larger debates.
00:36:18.000The first debate should have 5, 6, 7, 8 different candidates.
00:36:21.000They should be real debates, not just questions and answers.
00:36:25.000You have the mainstream media here in the United States gives almost no attention to third parties or alternative parties, especially if they have any clout.
00:36:33.000And so we have a constriction in the amount of choices the public has by the controlled corporate press, you know, that's owned by the same banks and bomb makers that own the two major parties.
00:36:44.000And so that's the issue we're dealing here with.
00:36:47.000And Barack Obama He's only different from John McCain and George Bush cause medically and that's why Wall Street's giving him more money than anybody else because they believe he can neutralize the left to support these wars.
00:36:59.000He's talked about needing to have conflicts with Russia.
00:37:02.000He came out against Russia with what happened in Georgia when Georgia is now admitted in the State Department admits snuck attack the Russian held area of Ossetia and Abkhazia.
00:37:12.000We have all of this going on, and we have Barack Obama, no different from Bush when it comes to the banker takeover bill, known as the bailout.
00:37:22.000So the point I'm making here is Congress has an 11% approval rating.
00:37:28.000Now, in fact, that was a few months ago.
00:37:36.000I'd like to hear your guest speak to this.
00:37:38.000The reason they have the lowest approval rating in history in the United States is because the people have figured out that both parties are controlled by the same interests.
00:37:46.000They just hate George Bush so much that they're giving Barack Obama a chance.
00:38:02.000So does that mean that the Americans are, right now, aware of the fact that Democrats and Republicans, as Alex suggests, well, simply are no different, and they're not the ones they want in office?
00:38:15.000I think that there are not distinct differences between the parties.
00:38:18.000Both candidates tend to, in this great race, tend to run towards the center.
00:38:22.000But instead of being a recognition, as Alex suggests, by the American public that they're owned by corporations of the corporate global elite, I think it's more the fact that Americans are simply not happy with their political institutions at all because they didn't do anything.
00:38:38.000They basically have become more polarized.
00:38:40.000The institutions of government, the way we elect people, the shape of our districts, producing different candidates and different office holders, And the rest of it has invited a kind of polarized, gridlocked, deadlocked in places like Washington, where you have, certainly under George W. Bush, a polarized environment where very little gets done.
00:39:09.000There's not a sense of compromise, there's a sense of my way or the highway.
00:39:14.000And for normal Americans, who are looking at their savings at home, or looking whether they can pay their mortgage, or they want to send their kids to college, And they watch these guys up in Washington, whether it's in the White House or in Congress, simply having such difficulty solving problems.
00:39:30.000That, I think, is more than anything else what has contributed to the lowest rating.
00:39:36.000Let us also take a look at the so-called third party.
00:40:22.000Let's have Wayne end this and then I'll get back to you.
00:40:24.000Very, very briefly, it is democratic in a sort of small way, but you're right.
00:40:29.000Institutionally, it works against the interests of a truly vigorous Yeah.
00:40:34.000different approach, which a third-party candidate has to do.
00:40:38.000And as Alex said, the most recent example of a vigorous third-party challenge, Ross Perot, happened because he was offering something truly different from the other two.
00:40:48.000You saw Teddy Roosevelt a century ago, who was offering something really different.
00:40:55.000But the institutions, I think Alex is right, the institutions, the mechanisms of the way we do it, including the Electoral College, which has been with us for a long time, does militate against the advantage of a third, more inventive, vigorous, interested, and different more inventive, vigorous, interested, and different approach to our government.
00:41:28.000I'd like to come back, actually, to what Alex was saying, because I think there is a popular misunderstanding about the American political system.
00:41:34.000We talk about two parties, but I think you could make a very valiant claim that there are actually 50 parties, because the national party system in the United States is very, very different than it is here in England, for example.
00:41:45.000People are much more powerful at a local state level, which allows someone like Barack Obama to come forward and to defeat the sort of like the candidate of choice for the party, which would have been Hillary Clinton, for example.
00:41:58.000I'd also pull issue with this idea that third parties are not important in American politics.
00:42:04.000As Wayne rightly points out, we can think about the progressive movement, the Bull Moose Party of Theodore Roosevelt in the 20s.
00:42:11.000We can come forward to think about the Dixiecrats in the 40s.
00:42:15.000Alex talked about this idea that only until the 1990s could you have a party of a third party coming through to challenge me.
00:42:23.000But Ross Perot, of course, actually challenged in the 1990s.
00:42:26.000And if Alex is worried about the influence of big money in American politics, well, the only reason that Ross Perot was able to stage his remarkable third party success in which he achieved 19% of the electoral popular vote in 1992 was because he was a billionaire.
00:42:44.000So if Alex is worried about big money in America, I think Ross Perot is an interesting and perhaps contradictory choice to hold up as an example.
00:42:54.000What I'm saying, that's a misrepresentation.
00:42:56.000I was talking about the last time there was a true, strong third party challenge.
00:43:02.000I wasn't discussing Ross Perot's money or how Ross Perot got into that position.
00:43:07.000I was talking about the attempts since then to further freeze third party Candidates and parties out of the larger discussion and out of the media and a circling of the wagons by the two-party dictatorship that we have in this country.
00:43:26.000The American people, it isn't that nothing's being done in Washington.
00:43:29.000Thousands of pieces of legislation are being passed, okay, at the state and federal level.
00:43:34.000The people are frustrated because 91% in every major Gallup poll want to control the border.
00:43:39.000Both parties say no, because the corporations want cheap labor and to drive down the wages.
00:43:44.000The American people, 75% or higher, don't want these wars.
00:43:47.000But both parties are still for it and still push it.
00:43:51.000On issue after issue, the Congress only has a 9% approval rating because the people understand that special interests are in control of the process more and more.
00:44:02.000They've always been there, but more and more, that's happening.
00:44:06.000So that's why this country is moving towards revolution.
00:44:09.000That's why the Army Times reported they have NORTHCOM, regular army brigades, pull it up yourself on Google, ready to, quote, deal with American insurrection.
00:44:18.000Because the American people understand that both parties are controlled.
00:44:23.000And you're right, they're hoping Barack Obama will do something different.
00:44:27.000They're hoping that it's all just rhetoric, that he's basically going to be lockstep with what George Bush did.
00:44:32.000Because George Bush was lockstep with what the last president did.
00:44:35.000Because it's a military-industrial complex that is using America as the engine of world government And the engine of empire for the Anglo-American establishment.
00:44:45.000So that's what we're dealing with here and so instead of just talking about the horse race, Barack Obama and of course John McCain, the supposed maverick, I'm pointing out that it's like a Don King boxing match where he owns both the fighters.
00:44:57.000Or it's like a horse race where all ten of the horses are owned by the same person.
00:45:14.000Our senators, until the 17th Amendment in 1913, were appointed by the state.
00:45:18.000They were appointed by the legislatures.
00:45:21.000Because the Senators were creatures of the state, so you couldn't have an all-powerful federal dictatorship.
00:45:26.000And so now our popular vote is counted at the state level, and then it goes up for the number of electoral votes that that state has representing its congressional districts.
00:45:38.000And then, and they've never gone against this, the Congress then goes with the popular vote.
00:45:44.000So it's the same system of state power, and that's what we're dealing with here, and that's why I am against a, quote, popular vote, because that allows more federalization and more control.
00:45:55.000Imagine if our senators were still creatures of the states.
00:45:58.000The states are being turned into vassals of the feds.
00:46:01.000This is empire, and we need to turn this around.
00:46:16.000And op-ed news is if the world could vote in the U.S.
00:46:21.000And of course, many believe Obama's international experience would go a long way in helping repair damage caused by the unpopular U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, with recent opinion polls from more than 70 nations favoring him, a resounding 3-1 over Republican John McCain.
00:46:37.000So Wayne Slater, what to say for the world's three-foot broad?
00:46:43.000Basically, I have to tell you that many American voters, if they knew that the rest of the world wanted Barack Obama, it would not be a positive for Barack Obama.
00:46:52.000On the other hand, there is a general sense, and I think Barack Obama is going to pull the troops out of Iraq.
00:47:01.000I think he's going to reposition some troops into Afghanistan, as he promised.
00:47:07.000And there is going to be a very active effort to reach out to the rest of the world in a way the Bush administration has not done.
00:47:15.000This is going to be a change, a difference.
00:47:18.000Now, maybe some critics don't think that's enough, but this administration is going to do that.
00:47:24.000I have great confidence that if Barack Obama is elected tomorrow, you're going to see a different America in terms of its relationship with the rest of the country, including the Middle East.
00:47:35.000Wayne, let me ask you this then, real fast.
00:47:38.000What is going to... Why, then, is Joe Biden and others saying, get ready for him to do something internationally?
00:47:46.000You know, you're kind of an insider of the Democratic Party.
00:47:48.000I mean, you've been flying around with Obama.
00:47:50.000All these leaders, including in Europe, have said a major crisis on the 21st and 22nd of January when he is inaugurated.
00:47:56.000Colin Powell said it on Meet the Press.
00:47:58.000Can you please enlighten us and tell us what this major international crisis is going to be that Joe Biden says his running mate is going to be very unpopular with the left?
00:48:07.000Sounds like going into Pakistan to me.
00:48:30.000Somebody's going to rattle their sabers somewhere.
00:48:33.000But I do think that most forces, whether they're in the Middle East or elsewhere, whether it's North Korea, understand that there is a continuity, whether you like it or not, in the United States.
00:48:45.000And any challenge of this president, whoever it is, is going to be met by this government.
00:48:51.000Absent that, we're going to see a different approach and attitude.
00:48:56.000I agree, it's going to be a velvet glove and that's why the corporations want him, because he can sell the world on accepting a couple more wars.
00:49:08.000Let's talk about continents right now, of course, the Middle East as well.
00:49:16.000Let's talk about transatlantic relations, let's talk about Latin America, let's talk about the Middle East, Iraq and Afghanistan, of course, briefly, but broadly.
00:49:26.000Well, I think it's interesting that the article you initially referenced talked about Barack Obama's international experience.
00:49:33.000I would have thought that if Barack Obama had a weakness, it was his lack of an international experience.
00:49:38.000I do hope the paper wasn't referring to his brief but glorious European tour, which saw him come to London and Berlin earlier in the summer.
00:49:47.000No sort of experience to debate upon whatsoever.
00:49:51.000John McCain arguably has a far greater international experience in dealing with the press and with the international leaders, so I think that's a little bit of a misnomer on that account.
00:50:01.000In terms of how he's going to deal with things, as I said earlier on, Tony's going to have an awful lot to do with this.
00:50:07.000I think he will be more prepared to take an aggressive stance with Pakistan and their perhaps inability... Does that mean a new war?
00:50:18.000I think it means taking on a slightly different approach with regard to Pakistan.
00:50:23.000I think what Obama will do will be to shift quite rightly the focus away from Iraq towards the battlefront in Afghanistan and to hopefully try and alleviate the pressure which is on the British troop contingent in that part of the world.
00:51:15.000I think one of the main complaints against American foreign policy is the idea that it doesn't have an exit strategy because it doesn't intend to ever leave.
00:51:22.000And I think there is a major problem there.
00:51:24.000I think the main shift is going to move away from Iraq towards Afghanistan.
00:51:28.000But I do think that as Armies after armies and centuries after centuries have discovered, the British included, Afghanistan is very much a black hole into which a number of Western powers have sunk, and I fear the United States is just going to be the latest in a long line.
00:52:03.000They have announced that they're going to have a small group of private central banks running the world's finance, controlling everything through new international agreements, and Bush's legacy is going to be to demonize true conservatism, demonize the United States, And then basically set us up for the next phase of the New World Order globalism based out of Europe.
00:52:22.000And so, you know, basically I want it on record that George Bush is not from Texas.
00:52:26.000George Bush is not a real conservative.
00:52:28.000George Bush was a globalist puppet who was put in there to make everybody have rage and hate the United States so the establishment could then give us their new savior, their new world leader, their new world president, as Newsweek calls him, Barack H. Obama.
00:52:43.000And he is there to fool the world, and I'm telling you, we're in for hard times, ladies and gentlemen.
00:52:48.000Just get ready, and Afghanistan, and Pakistan, and encircling Russia, and that sneak attack that NATO and the U.S.
00:52:56.000did through their proxy in Georgia, and the nerve of our media, that shows how reckless they are, to come on our TV sets and say Russia snuck attack them.
00:53:04.000I mean, we're in a lot of trouble, and I'm telling you, They have told us, Powell listed the days this is supposedly going to happen.
00:53:12.000And I'm telling you, they're going to try to make him look like a tough war hawk.
00:53:16.000They may even do some more stage Gulf of Tonkin stuff to basically christen, have an inaugural terror event or something so that Barack Obama can pose as a savior.
00:53:27.000All right, we have about a minute left.
00:54:04.000And with respect to going actively again war, the American people have no appetite for an active military expedition now after this debacle in Iraq.
00:54:17.000This administration will be governed by an American attitude in terms of the public.
00:54:21.000It will really be designed in engaging the rest of the world in a positive At least in a communicable way.
00:54:42.000We'll have a special coverage of that.
00:54:44.000From London, we're joined by Dr. James Boyce, assistant professor of international political studies at Richmond, the American International University of London, and founder of the Resolute Group from Austin, Texas, by Wayne Slater, author and senior political writer of Dallas Morning News, co-author of Bush's Brain, How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential.
00:55:03.000He's also been in the playing of both campaigns for the past Thanks for having me on.
00:55:54.000Come up on air, tell us what you thought of that.
00:55:58.000It was quite interesting to be on, you know, international... Yeah, I'm on Russian, I'm on British, I'm on Japanese every week now, pretty much, and a lot of these things they have me on by phone, so that's good.
00:56:12.000They're driving me down to the studios all the time.
00:56:14.000But I found the Iranians are just incredibly fair to the United States.
00:56:17.000I mean, people think of Iranian TV as just America-bashing.
00:56:57.000Ladies and gentlemen, I'm glad we could do that simulcast here on the Genesis Network to our AM and FM affiliates, Global Shortwave, Satellite, the Internet, and the rest of it.
00:57:04.000If you're listening at InfoWars.com or watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, you would have been able to see and hear the entire Transmission.
00:57:12.000By tonight, they'll also have one of their top new shows, worldwide and in Iran, will be up there in their archives.
00:58:16.000The torture, the secret arrest, the Military Commissions Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, the end of posse comitatus, the Patriot Acts.
00:58:24.000You're not going to see any of that repealed despite the fact that they're going to have the House, the Senate, and the Executive.