Alex Jones talks about the JFK assassination and the Inaugust day protests, George Norrie getting picked up on the Syfy Channel and much, much more. Alex Jones is a conservative radio host and host of the Conspiracy Theories podcast. He is a frequent contributor to the New York Times and other media outlets.
00:01:56.000It's the recession leading into depression, but again, because George has myself and others on, and took that show in a new direction five years ago, to about 30% New World Order news and information, when you didn't basically get any of that before, it has actually grown.
00:02:17.000But a side issue, just wanted to plug that, and also say we want George Norrie To have his new national TV show picked up permanently that's been airing all this week.
00:02:28.000The last one airs tonight at different times across the country and the world on the Sci-Fi Channel.
00:03:28.000But he will not compromise on the show, exposing 9-11 and JFK and other things.
00:03:35.000So he's, you know, said to me here on air, on other places, that he doesn't even know if it will be picked up, but that pilot has been shot and should be airing the next three or four months or so.
00:03:48.000So that's exciting on that front as well.
00:03:58.000You know, I said I'd get into Mark Cuban yesterday, and, uh...
00:04:05.000the Securities and Exchange Commission charging him civilly, but then, sending out with Martha Stewart, it then led to criminal.
00:04:15.000And, uh, my involvement in the story, loose change final cuts involvement in the story, And so I'm going to write a note here today and try to get into that.
00:04:22.000I mean, I got into some of it yesterday, but not as much as I had wanted to.
00:04:27.000It is an important story of persecution and attacks on free speech.
00:04:33.000But when we get back, I haven't even gotten into the news and I'm going to cover it.
00:05:02.000I've told you for a long time it's important to be self-sufficient, and today that's more important than ever.
00:05:07.000We need to be independent, and food and water is the key.
00:05:10.000You'll never have to stand in a bread line if you have your own bread.
00:05:13.000You'll never have to go to the Superdome and beg for FEMA to take care of your family in any emergency if you simply prepare.
00:05:19.000Our elected representatives wanted a good old boy bailout for special interest, so they ignored your screams not to do it.
00:05:25.000They turned off the telephones and email.
00:05:26.000They voted to print $850 billion at least out of thin air.
00:05:30.000This money now owns the American and European banks.
00:05:33.000The exploding inflation that is now guaranteed will slash your life savings to nothing and blast the cost of necessities, particularly food beyond many Americans'reach.
00:05:42.000In pre-Nazi Germany's superinflation, the cost of a loaf of bread doubled every two days until it reached over 4 billion marks.
00:05:54.000The private banks merging with our government are refusing to loan grocery stores enough money to restock their shelves.
00:06:00.000The stores have less food but jack up prices to stay in business.
00:06:03.000Whatever happens in America, we need to be prepared and be ready.
00:06:08.000One third of Americans have to choose between buying food and paying for other necessities.
00:06:12.000My friends, whatever it takes, get prepared, get self-sufficient, get food.
00:06:16.000For everybody out there listening, it's very important for you to understand that by having a supply of storable food, the government, the new old order has a lot less control over you.
00:06:24.000And so it's a mindset, a mindset of self-sufficiency and preparedness.
00:06:28.000No one is going to take care of your family in the final equation but you.
00:06:31.000You know eFoodsDirect.com is still able to ship storable food that's safe from E. coli, salmonella, genetic alteration, or Chinese imports.
00:06:38.000And they do it at almost half the cost of last year's grocery prices.
00:07:41.000Consumer price drops record 1% in October to the lowest since the last year of World War II.
00:07:50.000SAIC Dong Feng said to buy GM Chrysler assets.
00:07:57.000That's the Chinese government-controlled big two Chinese automakers.
00:08:03.000Chinese car makers are also seeking government aid, L.A. Times, but again to buy U.S. automakers' factories.
00:08:11.000Port of Los Angeles security under control of Chinese President's son, Canadian Free Press.
00:08:21.000With Hillary coming back into the White House in multiple fronts, Secretary of State, or she's going to be the czar over socialized health care.
00:08:29.000Get ready for the parade of CHICOM generals.
00:08:52.000And he said, yeah, it was Paulson calling up threatening martial law.
00:08:58.000As if we needed Inhofe from Oklahoma to tell us that.
00:09:04.000Again, when this came out five weeks ago, and the congressman, one of the congressmen we interviewed about it, wouldn't talk about it under House rules.
00:09:13.000I said, well, we know you're in the meeting with Bernanke and Paulson.
00:09:41.000You can't buy it, you can't find it most places, but the price goes down.
00:09:45.000Only in La La Land, but we're in La La Land.
00:09:49.000Alarm bells ring as Hillary offered leading role in American healthcare overhaul.
00:09:56.000Paulson supports FDIC foreclosure prevention plan, but then you read deeply into the facts, it's another bait and switch where they just keep the money, and then maybe if the Treasury feels like it later, if a bank renegotiates a mortgage, then maybe they might give them a little bit of money.
00:10:16.000Blackwater gunboats will protect ships on the west coast and east coast of Africa.
00:10:24.000There's now pirating going on every day off of Nigeria, but mainly off of Somalia.
00:10:32.000They're on the horn, and they grabbed a Saudi oil tanker, as you know, yesterday.
00:10:38.000Three times the size of the biggest U.S. aircraft carriers.
00:11:57.000While the border stays wide open and millions of illegal aliens are released from prison, hundreds of thousands just in Texas a year, Houston Chronicle, who are aggravated felons.
00:12:21.000Los Angeles Times, anti-war groups fear Barack Obama may create hawkish cabinet.
00:12:27.000And it goes into how they are stacking it with Republican and Democrat hawks from both the Bush administration The first Bush administration, the second Bush administration, and the Clinton administration.
00:12:39.000Absolutely. What do you think is going to happen, ladies and gentlemen?
00:12:44.000You are going to witness big problems.
00:12:50.000You are going to witness very serious Increase in saber-rattling, going into Pakistan, expanding the force in Afghanistan, staying in Iraq, encircling Russia.
00:13:34.000Weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
00:13:40.000Donald Driver's dad, beaten by Houston police after a dispute, Sports Illustrated, and they admit here, they pulled the guy over, he argued, so they beat him into a coma, and witnesses said, they said, you're now going to see Jesus, and then cram some type of drugs in his mouth, Uh, and then, uh, took him to jail, and then they took him out in a coma out of a jail cell.
00:14:54.000You think you're going to get away with it?
00:14:55.000Well, You are going to get away with it.
00:14:57.000You are going to get away with everything you do.
00:14:59.000You've got the power, and I mean that, until everything collapses.
00:15:03.000You see, because there's bigger thugs above you, who are conscious thugs and criminals, and they are getting away with stealing the five trillion in the last five weeks.
00:15:15.000And they're going to take a lot more, and you're going to pay the taxes for that, and your family is, and you're going to pay in your dollar being devalued, and you're going to pay when this whole economy completely collapses.
00:15:25.000So just keep smiling, keep smiling, keep smiling.
00:15:29.000Keep laughing and joking and giggling and making excuses, all of you.
00:15:34.000The yuppies, the government bureaucrats, the CPS workers.
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00:20:24.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
00:20:31.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:20:41.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
00:20:53.000Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
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00:22:09.000I can't seem to remember anything anymore.
00:22:12.000What? Seriously, my memory and attention span is terrible.
00:24:07.000This world is ruled by violence, but I guess that's better than I say.
00:24:13.000From the Broadway to the Milky Way, that's a lot of territory indeed.
00:24:22.000And a man's gonna do what a man's gotta do.
00:24:25.000And a man's gonna do what he has to do.
00:24:32.000Alright, ladies and gentlemen, Jim Mars and Robert Grodin coming up in the next hour.
00:24:37.000We'll have open phones after that, and Gerald Rund is popping back in again in the last 30 minutes of the show today.
00:24:44.000We'll talk about solutions and getting active on the streets.
00:24:47.000We've got the In The Fed folks on tomorrow.
00:24:49.000It is the 45th anniversary of the shadow government really taking over fully and saying, hey, President, you don't run, jank, squat, bang, you're dead.
00:25:03.000Alright, I went over a lot of the news.
00:26:01.000In the last year, we've seen video and book sales go down massively to what they were, you know, five years ago.
00:26:10.000You know, it's gone all the way back to when this was a much smaller operation, and I thought that was bad at InfoWars.com and, you know, the online video and book store.
00:26:21.000But then, in the last month or two, it's even dropped below that.
00:26:28.000And I'd say it's about half of what we were selling just three months ago.
00:26:33.000Normally in the late summer, early fall, that's a dead time.
00:26:36.000That was bumper crop for us, and you know, we need the money to operate.
00:26:42.000We actually have 15 people working for me now.
00:27:10.000Shutdowns, just things closing their doors.
00:27:13.000Newspapers are trying to sell out right now.
00:27:15.000The Austin American Statesman, been up for sale for a year, can't find a buyer.
00:27:20.000And it's not just the internet overtaking it, it's all being compounded by the economy.
00:27:26.000So a lot is happening, and into this gap comes the Chinese government that backed and funded and controls SAIC and DongFeng, the two big companies said to buy GM Chrysler assets.
00:27:41.000This is all over the largest Chinese newspapers, government newspapers.
00:27:45.000Under the sway of the global financial crisis, Shouldn't use their term, the globalist criminal consolidation by design, the economic warfare of the elite.
00:27:53.000So under the sway of the global financial crisis, the globalist economic warfare, the U.S. auto giants, General Motors, Chrysler, LLC, are tottering on the brink of collapse.
00:28:02.000Japan's Toyota Motor was previously rumored to buy them out, but now Chinese car makers SIC and Dongfeng are also said to have plans to acquire the two U.S. auto companies.
00:28:13.000Reports of 21st century Business Herald today!
00:28:18.000On November 15th, a senior official in China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology and state regulator of China's auto industry told reporters that the auto manufacturer giants in China, such as Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation, or SAIC, and Dongfeng Motor Corporation have the capability and innovation to buy the assets of the two crisis-plagued American automakers.
00:28:43.000Let's break down what's really happening here and what this is a larger Part of him will get back.
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00:32:23.000sorrow through his day I am the man of constant sorrow I've seen trouble all my days I've seen trouble
00:32:44.000So what does this mean that the Chinese automakers, and I don't think any of this is by accident, this is all happening right now, see the big foreign banks that leveraged the dollar, that devalued the dollar while they bought real assets that created 1.5 or 1,000 500 trillion or 1.5 quadrillion dollars in fiat.
00:33:11.000They went over and dumped hundreds of billions into Chinese automakers.
00:33:16.000Hundreds of billions into third world countries all over the world to leverage out the United States.
00:34:34.000Let's put into the cappers the comprehensive annual financial report 60 plus percent of the money put in there all of that money is taken offshore and Then it comes right back, but that's not enough Americans then have to buy the cheap Chinese Stuff or the Japanese?
00:34:53.000Because it's better in that case You know, they have to.
00:34:58.000Early on, they could have demanded quality, but they didn't.
00:35:00.000And American companies, again, strategically, by design, were already moving overseas.
00:35:07.000And so now, all those VCRs, all those DVD players, all those video games, all those baubles and ice chests and clothes that you bought from China, or Indonesia, Or Mexico, it's all coming back here to buy factories and roads and infrastructure and mines and timber.
00:35:39.000And you read in the LA Times that not only are the big two Chinese automakers basically government-controlled, they're going to the government saying, hey, cut the gas tax so we can sell more cars.
00:35:53.000And, uh, give us big tax breaks and tax incentives and government money to build more factories here in China and over in the United States to buy them out.
00:36:06.000You know what the government's saying?
00:36:07.000Absolutely. You want five hundred and something, Bill?
00:36:19.000Chinese car makers also seek government aid.
00:36:22.000Reporting from Shanghai, America's big three aren't the only car makers turning to government with a hat in hand.
00:36:29.000Hit by a dramatic slowdown in sales, Chinese auto executives are cutting production, shelving plans to export to the U.S., and all of Detroit looking for Beijing for a little help.
00:36:39.000Unlike the heads of General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Corp., and Chrysler, who were in Washington this week, Pleading for $25 billion in aid, it's loans.
00:36:47.000Chinese automakers generally aren't in dire financial straits.
00:36:50.000Rather, they're begging for cash on loans, Chinese managers say.
00:36:54.000They're pushing for policy changes such as lower consumption taxes, pump prices, that might help jumpstart sales.
00:37:00.000And then it goes on for more money for factories and things like that.
00:38:58.000The Navy and the CIA that launder all that, so that's not enough for them.
00:39:07.000But, I mean, you guys are all going to have big houses in Maui and, you know, even your mercenaries and million dollars in the bank, you know, even your minions, but everything's going to collapse around you and you're going to destroy your whole society.
00:39:39.000Meanwhile, we're getting our lunch eaten, and you have destroyed America, and it is being consumed, absorbed by the New World Order, then strip-mined, just being looted, gang-raped, just like a hundred and fifty years ago, the ten European powers with the U.S. went in and divided and raped China.
00:40:07.000There's all these well-meaning fools that salute the flag and wear their uniform and cry about the government and put their hand in their chest.
00:41:07.000Chinese car makers also seek government aid, so they're coming in and buying things up.
00:41:18.000i'm gonna go to your calls I'm going to go to your calls, and then I'm going to get into Paulson coming out and saying, hey, we're going to have martial law if you don't do this.
00:41:35.000That's now confirmed by Senator Inhofe.
00:41:37.000Paulson was behind a bailout martial law threat.
00:41:40.000But just in closing on the cars, it is a national security issue.
00:41:46.000But you see, national security is only used to destroy America, destroy the family, tax the middle class, chumps out of existence.
00:41:55.000It's only used to put sodium fluoride in the water and force vaccines on kids to give them autism.
00:42:00.000It's only used to ram through GMO crops that kill most of the rats and guinea pigs it's fed to and are killing us right now.
00:42:07.000It's only used to carry out the narcotics trafficking, the government-controlled narcotics trafficking.
00:42:13.000It's only there to protect their criminal activity.
00:42:17.000Imagine, since 47, tens of trillions of dollars in secret operations Powerful men doing whatever they want with total anonymity and total power.
00:42:28.000Gee, are you surprised we're going into total corruption?
00:42:39.000But if we had real national security, we'd say, you know what, we're not going to buy five B-2 bombers for a hundred billion bucks plus.
00:42:52.000We're going to give $100 billion to the automakers.
00:42:56.000Or, we're going to give $100 billion to two new start-up companies for whoever will sign the contracts and do the deals to build it.
00:43:06.000Now, obviously, that's not a free market.
00:43:09.000Okay, but we don't have a free market.
00:43:11.000I mean, if they're going to give $5 trillion in five weeks to the bankers to go invest it in China, and by the way, Curt Nemo just sent me an article he just posted, Bank of America by stake in China construction.
00:43:27.000They're taking the five trill, and they're not just leveraging and buying other healthy banks and insurance companies in the U.S. They're buying not just the roads and the ports.
00:43:41.000They are taking your money and sending it to China to come back and buy Ford And Chevy and Chrysler.
00:43:52.000Bank of America buy steak and China construction.
00:44:40.000So go ahead and watch your SWAT team cop shows cops and feel powerful, and go ahead and FBI feel powerful and train to confiscate our guns, and go ahead and just do everything you're doing, because it's all going to collapse.
00:44:50.000When they're done with this, we're going to be a giant third world cesspool.
00:44:53.000And the cops are going to be in giant gunfights with criminal gangs.
00:44:56.000Because once societies go banana republic, like Argentina's already done, or Brazil, or Mexico, once it happens, the gangs don't respect you anymore.
00:45:05.000They're going to move in and take over.
00:45:08.000And the cops are going to hide out in their police stations.
00:45:12.000I mean, there have been days in Brazil where a hundred and something cops get killed.
00:45:16.000There's days in Mexico where twenty or thirty get killed.
00:47:10.000The firearms that are slated to be banned very soon were running $200 to $300 above what they cost five weeks ago, when the last show came through.
00:47:41.000Don't buy gift cards, because I've got a story circulating today.
00:47:46.000I don't know if it's absolutely true or not, but it makes sense.
00:47:49.000If these companies go bankrupt or shut their stores down, how are you going to use a gift card?
00:47:53.000No, that's already happening everywhere, like linens and things.
00:47:56.000I saw a report about, you know, they're closing all their stores.
00:47:59.000I mean, it's hundreds of chains are going under, or vastly reducing stock.
00:48:05.000And again, this was all publicly done when the President and Obama, during the campaign, and the Treasury Secretary and the Fed Chairman, all said we're going to have a depression.
00:48:18.000Yeah, and another thing, too, what I'm doing is there are some things that, I mean, when you're into the Patriot movement or preparedness, it never ends.
00:48:27.000And that's what scares a lot of people away.
00:48:29.000It's a lot of investment, but it's buying insurance for your future security.
00:48:36.000There's calculators out on the web where you can calculate your tax refund.
00:48:42.000That's a little bit the government dribbles back to you.
00:48:45.000And if you have a credit card, if you still have credit, use it to get what you need now.
00:48:55.000Well, I was about to say, I hate to tell people to go out and max out credit cards.
00:49:00.000I've hated to do that too, but guess what?
00:49:03.000There's not going to be any bill collectors when this comes around.
00:49:06.000Well, there's a good chance that could be the case, but the bottom line is they're going to come after the little guys for debts, but the big guys can do whatever they want.
00:49:14.000I mean, if you're going to steal, folks, the moral is shoot for the moon.
00:49:19.000I just encourage everybody, Alex, to get prepared.
00:49:23.000This is in-game time, you know, referencing your movie that you put out.
00:49:27.000What are locals in your area, Garrett, of Mississippi saying?
00:49:32.000When I started working at this major company three years ago, tomorrow, People thought I was nuts when I started telling them about 9-11, Road to Tyranny, and different things like that.
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00:51:23.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
00:51:30.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:51:41.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
00:51:52.000Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
00:54:48.000I don't want my wife carrying a gun around her purse because I've got little kids and they've been taught not to be around guns and they're locked up.
00:54:54.000But kids come over to the house and I just...
00:56:02.000Good. Yeah, this is with respect to the auto industry comment.
00:56:07.000I agree that cars are designed to have engineered obsolescence, I mean, but I think that's across the board, you know, because I've seen a lot of problems with foreign or domestic, you know, it's just...
00:56:20.000Yes, Japanese are not as good as they were 10 years ago in my experience in mechanics I talked to, and as soon as Ford and GM and Chevy go out, Yeah, but I've had Fords now since the later 90s and I've never really had a problem with them.
00:59:21.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:25.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:30.000We've got two of the leading JFK researchers with the 45th anniversary coming up this weekend.
00:59:35.000Joining us in the next hour, then continual open phones and all this other important world news like Senator Inhofe identifying who threatened the Congress with martial law five weeks ago to pass the bailout.
01:00:16.000I've just started listening to you in the last two, three weeks.
01:00:20.000And, well, I'm sort of coming out of the grieving process, if you will, in terms of, I guess, realizing a lot of the things that, as Everybody else has been told and I'm finding out that much of it is false.
01:00:41.000And it sort of gives you a sense of, you know, not being attached to something.
01:00:47.000But having said that, there's an awful lot of information that you guys have been sharing with us.
01:00:54.000And having said that, I started talking with other people.
01:00:59.000But naturally there seems to be some, you know, obvious resistance.
01:01:05.000And I guess what I'm trying to find out is, is there a site or a resource where a person or group, you know, regional places where, you know, people can meet?
01:01:20.000Or communities where they can talk and interact and, you know, share ideas and so on?
01:01:26.000You've always got to, you know, Beware, and by that just be dubious.
01:01:36.000It's the nature of the web, but you can find great people.
01:01:39.000There are the Ron Paul meetups around the country.
01:01:42.000There are a lot of other organizations.
01:01:45.000They're going to have the In the Fed group going out and protesting the Fed coming up.
01:01:51.000That's going to be in Chicago as well, where you live, and 38 other locations, or 37 other locations around the country.
01:01:59.000There are 9-11 truth groups in every major city.
01:02:04.000There are, you know, all sorts of organizations and groups where you can meet like-minded people and then go to a group setting and find out, you know, who you'd like to work with or who you'd like to be involved with.
01:02:15.000It's kind of like looking for a church.
01:02:16.000I mean, you've got to go and check them out.
01:02:48.000You know, I'm old enough where I read that book in the 70s, and it's so weird how it What goes around comes around again.
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01:07:16.000And Robert Grodin and Jim Mars will both be there.
01:07:19.000Jim has a cold, but he's still doing the show today.
01:07:23.000He's having a bad connection on his phone line, so we're bringing him up here in just a few minutes.
01:07:28.000But so much is happening for the 45th anniversary.
01:07:32.000There's all these different hit pieces on Discovery Channel, History Channel, coming out that are really becoming comical.
01:07:38.000Robert Grodin and Jim Mars, I can't think of two people.
01:07:44.000More prominent than these two men when it comes to the JFK investigation movement.
01:07:50.000People that have brought forth more information, done more research, investigated as long, been intimately involved with the case itself than Robert Grodin and Jim Mars.
01:08:04.000I mean, Robert Grodin brought out the Subruder film and a bunch of other key information.
01:09:10.000That's what jumped out at me is they said that if they would have fired from the Knoll, it would have gone through Kennedy's head on the side and hit Jackie.
01:09:26.000Also, they acted like all the Secret Service testimony about the car, which they grabbed, hid, you know, tore out, refurbished, acted completely guilty.
01:09:36.000So I, specifically, because you're one of the leading experts on this, we're going to talk to Mars in a moment.
01:09:40.000Since you've seen the program, I refuse to be interviewed by him, by the way, for a 9-11 truth film he's making, because what his specialty is, is doing quack Scientific reenactments to try to flim-flam the public, kind of along the CSI line.
01:09:59.000But there were hundreds of comments within minutes of the show ending on the Discovery Channel website and literally 97% of them, it was over 100 comments I saw, and three of them were agreeing with the show.
01:10:10.000People were like, this is so one-sided!
01:10:13.000You know, I never really thought that it was You know, more than a lone gunman, but now I do.
01:10:21.000So, Robert Grodin breakdown inside the shooter car.
01:10:25.000Well, the whole thing was some fraud to begin with, but you just mentioned about Jackie would have been hit, you know, based on what they showed.
01:10:35.000First of all, they had the bullet hit nearly four inches too far to the front from where it actually did hit, number one.
01:10:43.000They had the president's head angled about 30 degrees too far.
01:10:48.000If you were looking at it from the top, from up above.
01:11:05.000But then again, considering they've done three other shows in the past that were even just as dishonest as this, perhaps even more so, It's not surprising.
01:11:16.000Well, go over the car, because they ran off and refurbished that and hid that.
01:11:23.000There were reports of bullet holes all over it, the windshield.
01:11:30.000One thing that they said, one line that they used in the show is, A shot would have had to go through the windshield, and we know that didn't happen.
01:11:37.000Well, we don't know that it didn't happen.
01:11:39.000There's a half a dozen witnesses that said it did happen.
01:11:42.000One person actually stuck a pencil through the hole itself.
01:11:47.000So, there's just lots and lots of problems with it.
01:11:50.000Grossly dishonest, and this is basically an Empire Strikes Back type situation.
01:11:55.000It's the government, through these idiots, trying to convince us of another lie.
01:12:04.000I mean, what they did with the President's limousine.
01:12:08.000Well, yeah, as soon as the car was at Parkland Hospital, the Secret Service gave orders to swab out the car.
01:12:16.000They got a bucket, they got sponges, and they were cleaning out the car, destroying the crime scene.
01:12:20.000And they even admit that on the TV show!
01:12:23.000Yeah, but it didn't seem to bother them.
01:12:28.000They take the testimony of two witnesses, Well, the whole way they took the Chrysler back to the factory, the way they refurbished it in a week, the way they were so secretive about that, I mean, right there is the guilt.
01:12:50.000Going to Jim Mars, Jim, when I called you Sunday night with my mouth hanging open halfway through the TV show, I said, are you watching this?
01:13:00.000You said, no, I'm taping and I'm watching the Cowboys get their butt kicked.
01:13:03.000Have you had a chance to see inside the shooter car produced by Laurel and Hardy?
01:13:11.000And it's just as bad as I thought it was going to be.
01:13:14.000And that's why I didn't even bother to watch it, because I have, through my own personal experience, having co-produced a program for Discovery and having dealt with several producers, We're good.
01:13:27.000I hate to say this, but there's so many people who think that if it's on the Discovery Channel, it must be right, and yet I'm here to tell you when it comes to Kennedy assassination, when it comes to UFOs, when it comes to other strange things, the Discovery Channel will not run the truth.
01:13:46.000Their attitude is, for example, on UFOs, we'll buy a program from you if you ridicule people who see UFOs.
01:14:02.000And this show was just, well, it's, it's, it's so ludicrous.
01:14:06.000It's, uh, and, and as Robert has said, nothing they did was correct.
01:14:13.000Uh, but the main thing is, and, and without getting into technicalities, uh, they said every, they built this wooden frame and put some seats in it and said this represents the car.
01:14:24.000And they said, we've got these dummies and we've got this jello for brains and we're going to take a shot and we're going to see if this doesn't prove Oswald did it.
01:14:36.000And they said everything is exactly the way it was in November of 1963.
01:14:52.000Oswald didn't have a telescopic sight for accuracy.
01:14:55.000He had a cheap 12-point sight, and he was not shooting at a stationary target.
01:15:01.000He was shooting at a target moving laterally downhill away from him with a tree intervening in the line of sight, and yet we're told he hit twice out of three shots within six seconds.
01:16:04.000but just but the point is is that just because they can set up everything and take all day to do it and make a shot that hits the side of the dummies head uh...
01:16:14.000that that part of that group that just proves they could do that it doesn't mean on the wall made uh...
01:16:21.000to get out of three shots in six seconds what about what their uh...
01:16:25.000robert groden just brought up and i mean i'm no master poobah like you guys that know every inch of this thing study it continually I've been at the Knoll many times and I knew that the Grassi-Knoll shot was coming, you know, more from the front than it was from the side.
01:16:42.000But they say in the show the guy was basically straight on at the side and then would have blown Jackie's head off.
01:16:50.000No, it is ridiculous and it does not even match the known medical evidence, which was apparently, and by all of the best evidence, Kennedy was struggling.
01:17:01.000in the right temple area in the hairline as he was leaning to the left with his chin down, which then took out the right rear portion of his head.
01:17:11.000Every doctor at Parkland said he had a huge gaping exit wound in the right rear portion of his head.
01:17:18.000Robert wrote in his new book, and I think you should put it out even quicker.
01:17:35.000Shot from the front, no question about it.
01:17:37.000One thing I've got to say, and everyone seems to be walking on eggshells with this one here, and I'll mention it, and I know that you would.
01:17:46.000I know you'd have no objection to this.
01:17:47.000The man who the producers picked as their so-called expert on the assassination was Gary Mack, the archivist of the sixth floor.
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01:23:57.000My integrity meant more to me than the money that they offered me, which at the time, I believe, if I remember correctly, was $180,000 a year.
01:24:06.000Unbelievable. When did they offer you that?
01:24:15.000I'm looking at a copy of a publication called Cover-Ups, October 1982, and the editor and publisher is Gary Mack, the same Gary Mack who was on the program Sunday night and who is now a curator at the Sixth Floor Museum.
01:24:33.000And on the front page of Cover-Ups, Edited and published by Gary Mack, we have a picture of what has become known as the Badge Man.
01:24:41.000And this is a figure firing a rifle or some weapon that is taken from the Mary Mormon photograph, which he published right here on the cover of Cover-Up.
01:24:50.000And the figure is to the north of the southwest corner of the picket fence on the grassy knoll.
01:25:04.000Now, on Sunday night's program, he takes us far to the west of the corner of the fence, the totally opposite direction of where this badge man photograph is, and makes a big deal out of saying, there's nothing here, folks.
01:25:18.000We've checked, and there was no shot from the grassy knoll.
01:25:22.000Has Jerry forgotten that it was his own work and his own story that points out the badge man who's in the opposite direction of what he pointed out Sunday night?
01:25:33.000Absolutely. Just watching his body language.
01:25:36.000They all had guilty smiles on their faces.
01:25:49.000Robert? Well, hey, let me add something here, too, that you probably don't know, Alex.
01:25:54.000And I'm not even sure if Robert knows this.
01:25:57.000But the point is, is that any time you do a study of what happened in Daly Plaza, You've got to have absolutely 100% accurate data about the topography of Dealey Plaza.
01:26:11.000You've got to have the distances right.
01:26:13.000You've got to have the elevations right.
01:26:15.000If it's off even an inch somewhere, then a few feet out, you're going to be off by a mile.
01:26:24.000So how do we know what the topography and what the numbers are for Dealey Plaza?
01:26:29.000Well, in May of 1964, the Dallas County Surveyor Robert West and his associate Chester Brenneman were hired by the Warren Commission to do survey work in Dealey Plaza based on every frame from the Zapruder film.
01:26:44.000And they did their job, and they did all the distances, and they did all the elevations, and both of those men years ago told me, and I can verify this because I have a copy of their original plat map, that the Warren Commission altered They're numbers.
01:27:21.000Chester Brenneman, the man who was just mentioned by Jim a moment ago, testified that his numbers and his measurements were changed.
01:27:31.000And he was scared out of his wits because he was afraid that something was going to happen to him if he were to speak out about it.
01:27:39.000Eventually he did, and what Jim says is absolutely correct.
01:27:43.000One thing that is for sure, too, is that the way they positioned the model in the show the other night was way off, absolutely way off, both for angle and for position.
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01:31:52.000Well, Jim had brought up the subject and he's absolutely right.
01:31:57.000Chester Brenneman went on record, and actually there are sworn affidavits by him saying how they changed the numbers, they altered the directions, they altered the I think.
01:32:12.000the measurements, which throws everything off.
01:32:15.000You'd think that, say, a quarter of an inch difference in the back of the president's head might not be so much, but it really is because, as Jim pointed out again, when you go backwards, the farther away you get from the target, the greater the distance becomes. Now, when they fired the shots, they fired three shots at the dummy's head on the show.
01:32:40.000The first one was from the front, and it was a soft-nosed bullet, and it literally ripped the entire head off.
01:32:50.000That never happens in real life, no matter what.
01:32:54.000You know, you might have a great deal of damage, but it never blows the entire head completely off.
01:32:58.000Because the skin is all bound and connected with tissue to the bone, so it may be like a big pop balloon, but still the head doesn't completely blow off.
01:33:10.000Second one fired from the front was a Carcano type bullet, and it entered the head approximately three and a half to four inches too far to the front of the head at a head that was angled far more to the counterclockwise than it should have been.
01:33:29.000That's why when it exited, it exited from the side instead of the back.
01:33:34.000The present was hit much farther to the rear of the head, although it came from the front, it hit on the side.
01:33:40.000And that's the semantics of the whole thing.
01:33:45.000The third shot that they fired was from behind.
01:33:49.000They hit four inches too high, and the damage on the prosthetic dummy that they were using was totally dissimilar to the actual autopsy evidence.
01:34:01.000The autopsy photographs and the description of the Dallas doctors does not match at all.
01:34:06.000Well, what happened to the dummy in their show?
01:34:08.000And of course they never bothered to mention that.
01:34:11.000And then they, and I want both of you to comment on this, they wouldn't show the Subruder film, they would show a computer rendering of it, which in reality, because I went and pulled up the film, was different.
01:34:38.000of the audience that's absurd it's absolutely ridiculous we see more gruesome stuff than that on t.v.
01:34:45.000every day and in movies every day and here we're talking about the single most important piece of evidence that we've got and they pretend that it's not important enough to show that that's absolutely absurd they know darn well that when you compare the Zapruder film or the uh...
01:35:01.000mormon photograph to the to their recreation that they don't match at all jaleck yeah uh...
01:35:10.000number one we don't even have to trust the uh...
01:35:14.000statements of just a problem and and uh...
01:35:16.000and which by the way was confirmed to me also by the dallas cali surveyor or westy he also told me if they had altered their numbers but we don't have to trust their testimony chester bruneman allowed me to make a copy of their original plat map And all you have to do is compare their graph numbers with the Warren Commission Exhibit 884, and you can tell that they're not the same.
01:35:45.000They altered it, but here's something else.
01:35:47.000Also, on their map, they took note of the two yellow marks on the curb.
01:35:54.000Uh, that's a whole interesting thing, which happened to bracket right where the headshot was.
01:36:00.000And many people, particularly, uh, sniper experts, feel like that these two yellow paint marks, uh, were distance indicators for shooters to know exactly where the distance was where the headshot was to take place.
01:36:15.000They also marked the area of a bullet shot on the curb on the south side of Elm Street.
01:36:21.000They also made a notation That where the first shot struck in the limousine up on Elm Street, they said this area hid behind tree for any shot from the depository as of this date, May 1964.
01:36:37.000All of these notations were deleted by the Warren Commission when they published their map.
01:36:43.000I mean, that's evidence of guilt right there, is the continual ongoing cover-up at thousands of different points.
01:36:50.000I mean, it's just one huge saga, but going back to the psychology, and I want to ask both of you this, both Robert Grodin and Jim Mars, probably the two most nominal people on the JFK assassination and the ensuing cover-up, Going back to one of your former colleagues, how did they get him to join the dark side?
01:37:07.000I mean, Robert was talking about Empire Strikes Back.
01:37:10.000It's like this guy was Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader.
01:37:50.000i was there when she did it well uh...
01:37:53.000you know he's one of the top guys and now at the little brainwashing museum for that he's the official story there and school kids for every day and the college students in the police and the rest of them uh...
01:38:02.000you know in the police academy work and then robert you're out there better your rain or shine and generally on the grass you know when you run into him what do you say to him over the years We rarely do run into each other.
01:38:16.000When we do, I guess we're as courteous as we can be.
01:38:22.000It's changing very rapidly because the sixth floor has done everything that they can through the years to try to get people on the other side of the issue out of Dealey Plaza.
01:38:35.000I mean, I've been arrested, I've been thrown in jail, I've been ticketed 80 times, harassed over 400 times, one time they even sent in Homeland Security with machine guns to try to get rid of me.
01:38:53.000trying can you imagine what the founding fathers would say they could see all of this this country and look how guilty they acted uh...
01:39:01.000and we're sure a major researcher you know you and jim i were the big advisors and the course yourself there on the ground for the j_f_k_ film you written all these books you're the guy that brought the subruder film and all of this but not the cops are sorry we're just gonna rush to it anybody else can stand out here saying what they want but you robert groden you can't Jim Mars, have you ever been harassed out there?
01:39:26.000Of course, I don't go and hang around Dee Dee Plaza much myself.
01:39:31.000I did that enough years and years ago.
01:39:34.000In fact, I have a photograph that I took from the 6th floor window before they built the 6th floor up there.
01:39:43.000If you go to the Sixth Floor Museum, you'll notice that they claim that we're not trying to make any statement here.
01:39:49.000We don't take a position on what happened to Kennedy, but they have plexiglassed off that whole corner there and put boxes up and left the window a little bit open, and they've set the whole sniper's nest stage there as is to say, well, here's where it happened, folks, and here's what it was.
01:40:07.000But of course, nobody from the public, in fact, In fact, they wouldn't even let Oliver Stone go up and film from the sixth floor window.
01:40:16.000Because when you stand in that window and you look down to the street, you realize that there's a tree blocking the line of sight.
01:40:28.000Well, let me just throw something in real fast.
01:40:30.000You know, back 20-something years ago, that's what woke up Colonel Craig Roberts.
01:40:37.000Well, I don't know of any firearms expert,
01:40:58.000an expert in sniping, Who buys the idea that Oswald was able to squeeze off three shots in six seconds with this really bad Italian war rifle that had a misaligned scope.
01:41:11.000People don't pay any attention to that either.
01:41:14.000Ronald Simmons of the Army's Ballistic Test Center told the Warren Commission they had to put three metal shims under the scope of the Oswald rifle just to make it accurate enough to test.
01:41:28.000That brings up You know, to both of you, but first, Robert, the Dallas Morning News a month ago came out and said, oh, evidence, you know, that this isn't the bullet that did it, or we've now had Los Alamos Laboratories come out and the Army did tests, and so we're seeing sectors of the government coming out and overturning what had done previously.
01:41:48.000A, what do these new developments mean, and then B, how is this coming from the government of all places?
01:41:56.000Well, you know, People like Jim and myself have always realized that the issues of the ballistics evidence were invalid.
01:42:06.000The way they were testing, the type of testing they were doing, could prove a negative, but could never prove a positive.
01:42:14.000Yet the Warren Commission claimed that it did in fact prove a positive, and it never did.
01:42:19.000What they dealt with was the makeup of bullet fragments.
01:42:26.000of the makeup they tested for something like twenty odd different uh...
01:42:31.000pieces of metal types of metal the only one of all of them became even close with antimony and it wasn't even right on they said that since one of all of these different elements match close close enough they said it came from the same bullet in fact nothing could be farther from the truth If they found nothing, they could prove that it did not.
01:42:54.000But the test itself never proves that it did.
01:42:58.000But now the government is finally admitting that.
01:43:01.000And people that have been convicted on that kind of evidence are now having their cases totally reviewed all over the place.
01:43:07.000Well, I was bringing this up to the director of the film, as you said, who specializes in these fraudulent science hit pieces.
01:43:19.000Well, I think, Alex, you're missing the point here.
01:43:37.000I think the point of a program like this on the Discovery Channel It's People like you and like Robert and people who know the case,
01:44:04.000they know that's not going to sway our opinions.
01:44:08.000What they're hoping to do, and it's the same thing they do with their control over the corporate mass media, which is to put out soundbites and headlines and these special channel programs, hoping to keep the controversy going.
01:44:25.000They're going to have a whole new generation of Americans who don't know squat about the assassination, and they watch the Discovery Program, and they go, oh, well, I guess it is possible that Oswald did it all by himself.
01:44:38.000And the case continues in controversy, which has been the method of cover-up from the get-go.
01:44:45.000There's never been a lack of evidence.
01:45:22.000But then when they go on our news they say it doesn't exist and then we always have a debate about whether it exists or not instead of having a debate about do we want to be under this North American Union.
01:45:34.000You know, it's propaganda and disinformation and what they do is they just confuse the average member of the public.
01:45:43.000But in spite of all that they do, in spite of the power that they have over the press, the control over the press, the disinformation they put out, still 90% of the American people or greater always believe that there was, in fact, a conspiracy.
01:46:00.000part of the debate, the biggest part that people are not really sure of for the people out there is whether Lee Oswald was part of this conspiracy or not.
01:46:09.000But they understand that there was a conspiracy.
01:46:12.000even the government admitted that nineteen uh...
01:46:14.000nineteen seventy nine I'm sorry, you know, when the House committee, when the House Assassination Committee wrote their report, the last official word on this, they said that there was a conspiracy.
01:48:15.000The point is, they tried to frame him, and so that's why he ended up getting off.
01:48:19.000You know, even if you think somebody's guilty, you can't frame them, folks.
01:48:22.000And so all Grodin did was go and document that was a fake photo.
01:48:27.000Right. Well, you're right about the EDTPA that was in the blood samples.
01:48:32.000There was also blood spatter evidence there, too, which proves Oh, by the way, as far as blood spatter evidence goes, on the show that they used, they were talking about blood spatter, which they never actually get a chance to really test.
01:49:03.000Since the shadow government killed JFK, and they are striking back with all manner of flimsy propaganda, that if you know where to look, you find out that it's literally a facade.
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01:52:52.000I've got a brand new book out right now, just hit, and it's already rising up the charts at Amazon.com called Above Top Secret.
01:53:01.000And in there, I tackle 25 of the biggest mysteries, conspiracies going on right now, and including a whole chapter on who killed JFK.
01:53:10.000Now, if you want to get behind and get to the highest levels of who's behind the Kennedy assassination, you need to read my also recent book, The Rise of the Fourth Reich, which I believe is available on Alex Jones'site.
01:53:24.000And then for those of you listening who have a copy of my book, Crossfire, I am going to the conference in Dallas this weekend, and I'm going to have a number of new subject and name index for Crossfire.
01:53:40.000And once you have this, you'll be able to move through there.
01:53:43.000You'll find out things that you either forgot or never knew.
01:53:47.000For example, there was an attorney who overheard Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald plotting to kill Governor Connolly and reported this to the Texas authorities weeks before the Kennedy assassination.
01:54:05.000It's in Crossfire, and with the new index, you can find everything you want to find.
01:54:10.000Absolutely, and folks, do go to InfoWars.com and get his Rise of the Fourth Reich book, because if you want to understand, we're not saying they're German Nazis running America.
01:54:19.000We're saying those ideas came from England and the United States, that COG form of shadow government.
01:54:25.000That is who is in control today, and that's why they're setting up this fascist system.
01:54:31.000So please get Well, my website is JFKMurder.com.
01:54:55.000Virtually everything that I've got is on there, that which is still available.
01:55:49.000The other photos, I mean all the others, I guess you just have the sources?
01:55:54.000Well, there's absolutely no single point for all of these things.
01:55:59.000The different things came from different places.
01:56:02.000And through the years, when I became known as the photo guy in the Kennedy case because of my release of the Zapruder film on Goodnight America, People started coming to me.
01:56:15.000They wanted to see if I could find more stuff in their photographs and their films.
01:56:20.000And I always did the work for them for free.
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01:57:45.000Food prices are skyrocketing so fast, there seems as if there may be no end in sight.
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