On this October 6th 2008 edition of the Global Conspiracy Theories podcast, Alex Jones is joined by David Icke to discuss the collapse of the global financial system and the role played by the International Banking Syndicate. The collapse in the stock market has sent the Dow Jones and S&P 500 plunging 10,000 points in a matter of minutes.
00:01:56.000Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this October 6th, 2008, worldwide broadcast on the AM and FM dial, simulcasting on multiple satellites, the Internet at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com, global shortwave and the podcast right at 100,000 people a day, downloading that six days a week.
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00:02:38.000Okay, he was on with us about three weeks ago, and it was only for an hour, and so I wanted to get him up for two hours to talk about the nature of reality, the International Banking Syndicate, the Crime Syndicate, engineering the collapse that he and others detailed To a great extent.
00:02:57.000David Icke will be with us in the third and fourth hour today.
00:03:00.000He'll be with us coming up at one o'clock Central Standard Time.
00:03:24.000I don't have to tell you that the markets are in absolute free fall going down to 10,000 points today.
00:03:35.000If you listen to the radio shows we did last Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday, we stated that of course the markets are going to plunge.
00:03:49.000They needed to get the immunity For the crimes of the international banks, the brokerage houses that carried out the Ponzi scheme with the fake liquidity that they're going to leave us holding the bag with.
00:04:04.000In the provision, it makes the Federal Reserve dictatorial through the Secretary of the Treasury, the private Federal Reserve.
00:04:11.000It allows them to seize any homes they want, revalue mortgages up or down.
00:04:16.000It allows them carbon taxes of all different types.
00:04:21.000It allows them to hand Your tax money over to foreign corporations and none of it can be second-guessed or even reviewed.
00:04:31.000It says at the discretion of the Treasury Secretary, he can create a flim-flam group chaired by himself to push recommendations and propaganda.
00:04:41.000And so global markets are headed straight down right now.
00:04:44.000The stock market plunging and just unprecedented.
00:04:49.000Last week when the public One, not to go along with it, the establishment reacted by savagely, savagely attacking the market and driving it down 1.2 trillion.
00:05:11.000Well, they've just outdone that today.
00:05:15.000The market is down 400, 400, 443.55, 443.55, and plunging fast.
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00:09:01.000So while we see the stock market plunging uh... six hundred plus points today after the bankers got their empowerment immunity takeover bill Understand, at least the good news is thousands to one, according to members of Congress, phone calls against it last week, even after the White House said, depression, depression, and then didn't have the Plunge Protection Team prop up the market last Monday when it went down over a trillion dollars.
00:09:28.000Well, the same thing's happened today, after the bankers got their power, because this is part of a consolidation.
00:09:33.000And David Eisenhower talked about that, he's been writing about that for Plus 20 years, how the main power of the New World Order in the physical realm is their banking fraud, their fractional reserve system.
00:09:43.000But I want to first talk, the man who needs no introduction, about the incredibly positive thing.
00:09:49.000Because as the enemy moves against us, as they try to destroy the middle class and slave the people so they've got to go to the government for their food, So that there can be a financial collapse, riots in the streets, so they can use the military on us as they're now announcing in mainstream news to be the saviors, so we accept a militarized banana boat economy.
00:10:07.000The positive news that, this isn't hype when I say it, there is an awakening so huge it dwarfs anything a month ago, or anything a year ago.
00:10:39.000On the left, the left is waking up and breaking the paradigm and breaking the controlled tiny box reality and seeing the wider universe around them.
00:10:48.000So there is a consciousness shift in information analysis and it is the hundredth monkey.
00:11:18.000Let's break down the shift, what's happening, the positive, and then get into your analysis on the banking global takeover, then we'll get into the nature of reality itself.
00:11:27.000Well, the thing is, Alex, that I've been a kind of barometer of this because I've been doing it for so long, and when I started talking about these things in Britain in the early 1990s, well, it was just extraordinary the scale of uh... abuse and uh... and ridicule that came my way but as the years have passed uh... died gradually change.
00:11:51.000And then since 9-11, and another shift after the invasion of Iraq, I've seen it explode.
00:11:56.000And what we're seeing now is something I talked about a long time ago.
00:12:00.000When something is covertly manipulating along a road to change society in a certain way, there comes a point where it has to break the surface where it can be seen, because what it wants to change starts to happen in front of people's eyes.
00:12:18.000And this, and what we're talking about today with the finance and everything, is putting in the face of people what they have, and I understand why, what they have tried so hard to deny was reality.
00:12:31.000And therefore, they're finding it more and more difficult to look the other way and say, no, no, let's change the subject.
00:12:39.000And all this together, and there's a consciousness awakening as well very clearly, People are waking up and expanding their consciousness on a scale never before in a time that I've known anyway.
00:12:51.000And together it's bringing people to a state of awareness where they are seeing What is actually happening now?
00:13:03.000People are coming out listening to this information in vast numbers.
00:13:06.000They're listening to programs like yours in vast numbers.
00:13:09.000What we need to do now is start to get together, drop the fault lines between left and right and center and progressives and all this other stuff and religion and all the rest of it and come together and cross the street and start engaging with this system.
00:13:24.000And by engaging, ironically, I mean Disengaging with it, ceasing to allow it to enslave us, ceasing to cooperate with our own enslavement, because as I talked about last time I was on the show, there are six billion people plus now being manipulated.
00:13:41.000There is, at the core, a relative handful doing the manipulating.
00:13:45.000I see a way out of this, but we have to come together, and it's starting, and I'm extremely optimistic, because now we're in this window of time where The problem is they're blatantly in front of us.
00:13:59.000The game is more and more blatantly in front of us, and that is engaging and focusing people to the understanding that doing nothing is no longer an option.
00:14:09.000It's a great time of opportunity, this.
00:14:11.000And they only are able to control us by us ourselves, keeping ourselves in that box, in self-regulating to where we're afraid to speak up, or afraid to talk to neighbors, and so we just go and watch the television.
00:14:27.000But again, that is starting to break up.
00:14:29.000That is starting to shift, and it's so beautiful to see.
00:14:32.000Before we get into the larger shifts in society and how there's only probably less than a hundred global masterminds, a few thousand technicians under them who really get the full structure of the New World Order, there are tens of millions worldwide who have organically reverse-engineered what they're doing to a stunning level.
00:14:53.000We're able to predict what they're going to do.
00:14:55.000And that's really starting to threaten them, and that's why they're talking about bringing in total dictatorial martial law to try to suppress it.
00:15:03.000I see that act of desperation as a huge failure.
00:15:05.000But let's get into the economics first, and break down what we're seeing with the banker takeover, how they're proposing a world banking system out of the crisis they created.
00:15:20.000I've been so focused on everything that I've been traveling and moving constantly for about 10 days, two weeks, but I have heard the idea that this banking crisis is like bad for the bankers and is not what they wanted.
00:15:56.000So, just because Merrill Lynch is absorbed by the Bank of America or this bank that goes down and its clientele is taken over by this bank.
00:16:05.000It doesn't matter because the names on the doors are changing, the masks on the face are changing, but you own the game!
00:16:14.000And if you own the game, you can manipulate the game because you're controlling the rules of the game.
00:16:21.000So what we're looking at is And this has been long predicted, and this is one of the real powerful things, Alex, at this time.
00:16:28.000And why it was so important to get this information out about the game and how it's played and what the goals are over the years gone by, because that gives credibility when people look at it and say, hold on a second, this was predicted, this is not just happening now.
00:16:45.000And this really does start to take power from Uh, the way they manipulate, giving us the impression that, oh no, this is just a problem that's just come out of nothing.
00:16:54.000It's been planned for years, and the plan is...
00:16:57.000For a centralization of power in every area of our lives and every area of global society including politics, business and all the rest of it.
00:17:09.000They want a world central bank that dictates to the whole of the global financial system, the whole of the global banking industry and their families are going to control that.
00:17:22.000Diversity is the worst nightmare of the dictator.
00:17:25.000You look at any tyranny, if you want to centralize power, it's no good having lots and lots of points of decision-making and diversity of decision-making because you can't centrally control that.
00:17:36.000And just look at the way society's gone through the centuries.
00:17:43.000Because you can only control from the center in the hands of a few if your center holds the power that affects vast numbers of people eventually everyone as they plan so the more and more diversity there is in the banking system Alex the less power you're going to have over it because there are going to be banks and Financial systems that you're not going to control to the extent that you want you want to take them out
00:18:07.000you want to centralize a Power you want to remove as much as you can the number of names the number of the amount of diversity And that's why the high-level private central banks that are not your regular Main Street banks issued over a thousand trillion liquidity to other banks and institutions and changed the rules so they could sell derivatives and get into all this fraud because now the elite above get to orchestrate the consolidation.
00:18:34.000They get to send the tax money to the central small inner sanctum or coterie of banks so that they can manipulate the consolidation.
00:18:42.000And in the IMF and World Bank documents, in their own statements, in what Kissinger said last week, what was in the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times of London, they all are saying that.
00:18:53.000The Financial Times of London said, actually, this is good for a few megabanks, and they're the ones that changed the rules.
00:19:00.000Meanwhile, you have all these people in alternative media running around saying, oh no, it's an accident.
00:19:04.000It's key for the establishment, the controllers, to sell that lie, so they don't get the blame for what they've orchestrated, so they can play the part of the savior, setting up the World Banking Cartel, which we buy carbon credits from, which are a tax on human breathing, Not all the real environmental problems we have so they can regulate our everyday life with carbon checkpoints and carbon audits of our homes and bureaucracy and one-child policy.
00:19:31.000Yeah, you see, this is a big point to get across.
00:19:35.000People, and I understand why, because that's what they're led to believe, they see private banks and they see the central banks in the different countries as but the same families control both sides.
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00:24:28.000All right, folks, we're back live with David Eich, our guest for the Balance of the Radio Show today.
00:24:38.000We'll open the phones up towards the end of the show in the next hour.
00:24:42.000The key here is that the unprecedented action out of the open of the president...
00:24:48.000All the major leaders of the two parties, the Treasury Secretary is saying, there's going to be a depression, financial abyss, you've got to pass this Banker Bailout Bill.
00:24:57.000And you read the bill, immunity, unlimited power, they can do whatever they want, commit basically any financial crime they want, and it doesn't say $850 billion, doesn't say $700 billion, it says $5 trillion, if you really read the fine print, as Bloomberg Financial and others reported.
00:25:12.000So they are the ones terrorizing the market to plunge.
00:25:16.000Then they forced through the bill, and last Friday we had the congressman on.
00:25:39.000They implode the economy, the welfare checks stop going out, things break down, there's riots, the military saves us, the precedent is set.
00:25:46.000So just amazing how they're right out in the open doing all of this, David.
00:25:51.000Yeah, because we've reached that point, Alex, where it has to break the surface to become the changes in society that they've been working covertly for for so long.
00:26:01.000This is the key, in terms of America, for what's happening on so many levels, in my opinion anyway, and I've been writing this for years.
00:26:09.000And what I said was that they're going to use America, or are using America, to destroy America.
00:26:15.000Because they want a world government A world government cannot possibly have total global power while there's any superpower with massive military and financial might that has, through that, the ability to say to the world government, excuse me, we're not doing that, we're not accepting what you're dictating and telling us to do.
00:26:39.000So what they've been doing, and it's been so blatant to me, is that they are using America to destroy America.
00:27:28.000But people like China are holding massive amounts of this.
00:27:32.000And I found it very interesting, you know, that Henry Paulson as chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, which was massively involved in this subprime scam, then becomes Treasury Secretary.
00:27:45.000He has apparently made at least 100 visits to China discussing financial matters with the Chinese authorities.
00:27:53.000And here's China picking up more and more of this debt.
00:27:58.000I was warned ages ago by various insiders, watch for the time when China becomes a big economic and military power, because that's when...
00:28:20.000We want the assets, please, for the debt that we hold.
00:28:23.000Then you've got potential for conflict between the two.
00:28:27.000And I was told a long time ago that It's leading to a conflict involving China, the third world war, to bring in finally this whole structure of world government, world central bank, world army, microchip population, world currency, and all the rest of it.
00:28:42.000So all these things are moving as one unit.
00:28:45.000They appear to be, to most people, unconnected.
00:28:48.000As you look at the invasion of Iraq, and Afghanistan, and the finances, all moved by one flow of energy.
00:28:57.000That was also meant to demonize the name of the U.S., to put the sins of the new world order on the U.S., like they used the Soviets previously to carry out their dirty work.
00:29:04.000They also need a global economic crisis that can be blamed on America to set up their world government.
00:29:11.000And now, all over the financial papers the last two weeks, they propose the private banks becoming the world government.
00:29:20.000I was reading a piece when I was traveling about the head of the IMF saying that the IMF should become the central coordinating, basically, police force for the global banking system.
00:29:32.000There's the open suggestion now of this world central bank that we've been talking about for so long.
00:29:40.000And so what we're looking at is Ironically, while America is getting this flag, while America gets the thinker pointed at it, actually, although it's firing the bullets, if you like, in places like Iraq and Afghanistan and what have you, the gun's being loaded in Europe, and there in Europe, you know, in the centre of the secret society web, Europe is basically going, who me?
00:30:07.000I've got nothing to do with it, it's America!
00:30:10.000Got a break when I come back long segment.
00:30:12.000I want to hear your solutions how to combat this now I say expose is really behind it a but what else can we do?
00:30:19.000We're on the march the Empire's on the run Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network I am so frustrated.
00:30:31.000I can't seem to remember anything anymore.
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00:34:41.000David, I want to finish up with the economy and get into the nature of reality, but there seems to be a shocking of the conscious.
00:34:47.000And I've seen that in some psychological tests they've done at major universities studying rodent psychology, which is very similar to human group psychology, in these controlled mazes.
00:34:58.000Shocking, yelling, noise, heat, cold on rats, till they finally just go into a catatonic state and shake in the corner.
00:35:05.000And, you know, having CBS News come out and say, Mercury is good for your brain, taking mercury shots helps your brain cells.
00:35:27.000And then tens of thousands, just finishing up this statement, tens of thousands get sick from melamine on purpose in the milk because it shows on a protein test, if somebody tested that it has high protein, and then it turns out it's in a bunch of food lines here in the U.S.
00:35:44.000where most of the food additives and drugs get made for the U.S.
00:35:47.000and now in China, same for Europe, and they admit it's killing hundreds of Chinese that drank too much and it attacks your kidneys, gives you cancer, and the FDA comes out yesterday and says, actually, it's good for you.
00:35:59.000So it seems like they're almost lying to be caught, as you said, to surface and shock everyone into just kind of submitting.
00:36:29.000When you put it all together, Alex, when you put all the shocks, all the constant instructions, all the do's and don'ts, All the punishments for increasingly fine detail little things like I talked about last time, people being fined in Britain for feeding the birds, people being fined for putting a card in their car saying it's for sale when it's their own car.
00:36:53.000What it is like is exactly like the laboratory rat because of course when you Uh, when they're doing those experiments, um, when the rat goes down certain channels, it gets the shock.
00:37:04.000After a few shocks, it doesn't go down that channel anymore, and you can take the shock equipment away, it still won't go down that channel, because it's been programmed not to do that by, by the carrot and the stick.
00:37:14.000It's okay going down this one, we'll leave you alone.
00:37:41.000In England and the U.S., if an adult is at the park, and I, you know, when I was single, went for walks at the park all the time, or jogs, the police come over and ask, are you a pedophile?
00:38:14.000It's something that is very important for people to appreciate, that we've been bombarded with shocks on purpose so that we will become subservient and we will give our power away.
00:38:28.000And I'll tell you a wonderful example, which really was encapsulated in one headline.
00:38:32.000When the tasers started coming out, when we started giving out, I'm not saying all police are like this.
00:38:38.000But now they've gotten us conditioned to daily deaths.
00:38:40.000Yeah, I've met a few policemen who, if they had a brain cell, it would die of loneliness.
00:38:46.000And we're giving these people 55,000 volts of electricity to shoot at people.
00:38:50.000Now, there was an article in the newspaper which was looking at this when they first came in, and the headline encapsulated exactly what we're talking about here.
00:38:58.000It said, I'll do anything you say, officer.
00:39:16.000But what we mustn't do, and when we get into the nature of reality and the true nature of who we are, as opposed to the false identity we've been sold from cradle to grave, Then you lose the fear, and you lose this subservience.
00:39:30.000You know, someone with an expanded consciousness, who looks in the mirror and realizes that what they're looking at is what they're experiencing, not who they are, they don't fall for this stuff.
00:39:41.000And that's why this awakening, and it's an awakening from an hypnotic trance, that's what it is.
00:39:47.000Calling it an awakening is a very good term, because that's what it is.
00:39:50.000It's like someone in an hypnotist stage show having the fingers clicked and they wake up from the trance.
00:39:57.000Most of humanity is in an absolute hypnotic trance that is put in from cradle to grave by constant repetition of a fake reality.
00:40:08.000And when we wake up from this, then we will not be subservient.
00:40:12.000Then we will cross the street and start to engage with this.
00:40:15.000And by the way, the first step is the biggest.
00:40:18.000Once you realize you are in a hypnotic state with your literal brainwaves from the television, the average American now, the average Brit, they've done studies, we've posted them on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:40:44.000And what David is telling you is absolutely true.
00:40:48.000Yeah, well when you start to look at what reality is, then this conspiracy takes on a whole new depth, and indeed you get closer and closer to the foundations of it, because the foundations of it, it plays out as banking scams, it plays out as political scams, it plays out as engineered wars, all of which are absolutely vital for us to know about, because you can't cease to be a slave until you realize you are one and what the game is, so that's vital information.
00:41:13.000But alongside that, We need to understand not just what the prison looks like, but how we open the door and indeed stop the door finally slamming shut.
00:41:22.000And to do that, we need to understand reality because the core people, behind the people, behind the people, the shadow people as I call them, they understand the nature of the reality that we're experiencing.
00:41:34.000And they have worked tirelessly and endlessly to manipulate the structure of society and the information allowed to circulate in society to keep the people in total ignorance of the very reality that they're experiencing.
00:41:50.000And how can we possibly be free in a world that we don't even know what the world is?
00:41:58.000We don't know the nature of the reality we're experiencing.
00:42:00.000If we don't start to get an understanding of that information, then again, just like the banking system, we're pawns in a game where someone else knows the rules and we don't.
00:42:11.000And that's why this whole area of Who are we?
00:42:16.000What is the nature of reality is so absolutely vital, because it offers the key to the door.
00:42:21.000And that's why it's my prime focus now, because this is where the key is held to open the door to this prison cell that they're building by the minute.
00:42:31.000Now to simplify that, they are trying to shock us now and intensify the amount of outrageousness Well you know when they say Cadbury cakes filled with melamine are good for you, they're doing that because some even greater horrors and intensification of the tyranny is coming and they're trying to acclimate the mind to where we're so shocked that we're basically numb and so what you're saying
00:42:55.000And you're absolutely right from my perspective and my life and studying history and philosophy and sociology and what's happening is once you realize you're being manipulated, once you understand you're being programmed, once you understand that's going on, then you start looking and then it's a progression of levels as you become more and more aware and that's what the enemy is in a race to block and stop.
00:43:20.000Yeah, when you expand your consciousness, your energy field starts to vibrate quicker and quicker and quicker.
00:43:28.000As you close your consciousness and you become a prisoner almost entirely of the five senses in how you see reality, you see possibility, and the five senses decode reality in sense of limitation i can't the five senses are telling us all the time how powerless we are how how many things we can't do how limited we are as you expand your consciousness that dramatically changes
00:43:58.000so if you can hold people in a low vibrational state because everything is vibrating energy uh in different forms then you are literally we we use these truisms as throwaway lines in our everyday life you are literally closing the minds of people so anything that will slow us down vibrationally is is and fear is the biggest one um will make us more and more closed-minded and have a more more limited
00:44:27.000view of possibility in our own selves.
00:44:29.000And we're being bombarded to that end by food additives, by additives in drink and water, by all the shocks that you're talking about, by all the things that create the laboratory rat scenario.
00:44:42.000And, of course, when we're in fear and when we're in stress, what do we say?
00:44:53.000And the more you do, the more the five senses dominate your reality.
00:44:58.000And where do the five senses look, Alex, to get a fix on who we are and what's going on in the world?
00:45:03.000they look outside into this world and then madison avenue tells the women they're ugly and inadequate so they get even more depressed and and and and don't realize what incredible dynamic creatures they are men think they need to be manly and start fights and only like football and not be good parents all of it is to hamstrings but let me throw out a historical example of of of horizons and and expanding your vision The elite, of course, have suppressed a lot of history.
00:45:32.000But they know that we are, quote, made in the image of the Creator.
00:45:38.000And that's why a science fiction writer like Jules Verne or H.G.
00:45:41.000Wells or any of these people, they could expand just their imagination and almost everything they wrote about and talked about has now manifest because what the mind imagines in steps it is able to later construct through this group community, this mass organism That we know of as humanity.
00:46:00.000So that's why the elite know to stop a true renaissance to the stars, they have to make us petty, small, hateful, to turn against each other, and fearful of taking action.
00:46:15.000When I say we've got to take action and go out and warn the people about the New World Order or they're going to enslave us, that isn't fear.
00:46:21.000I'm saying we have a positive way to stop this, but things will be bad if we don't.
00:46:28.000That's just telling people the lay of the land.
00:46:31.000They use a false fear of keep your mouth shut and everything will be all right.
00:46:38.000Because I've been very successful in different ways than you have.
00:46:40.000You've been successful in other ways than I.
00:46:41.000By getting people moving, by being a cold bucket of ice water when they're in a trance, I am able, with the information, to shock them into waking, and then they find people like David Iy.
00:46:56.000I mean, the biggest aspect of this whole conspiracy, Alex, in my view, is that they have manipulated humanity into a false sense of identity.
00:47:08.000It's a sense of identity that looks in the mirror in the morning and says, that is me.
00:47:17.000when we are consciousness having an experience as Chuck Jones and Ethel Smith.
00:47:23.000And if you identify who you are with the vehicle, then you are going to identify yourself with the reality of the vehicle, which is limitation, I can't, powerlessness.
00:47:36.000We need to start to understand that the prime, bottom line, foundation of this conspiracy is to put us in this fake identity where we identify with being human as human is what we are.
00:47:56.000Now, when near-death experiences have these now in their millions recorded experiences of leaving the body when the body dies and then coming back again when the body is revived, they tell extraordinarily common stories of what they experienced in the intervening time where their they tell extraordinarily common stories of what they experienced in the intervening time where their consciousness massively expanded, where they were seeing the past, the present, and the future at the same time, where there was no time, where there was no sequence of events even, where they had this amazing where there was no sequence of events even, where they had this amazing ability to
00:48:33.000See, what the body does, Alex, I had this...
00:48:37.000I was sitting in the bath a few months ago, and I had this vision in my mind, and it went like this.
00:48:42.000First of all, there was swirling energy, and I knew immediately that was symbolic of consciousness.
00:48:47.000Then an eye appeared in the energy, and...
00:48:52.000And in front of the eye appeared a telescope, and on the end of the telescope was the Earth and this universe.
00:48:59.000And then, this is the crucial point, the telescope morphed into a human body.
00:49:05.000And what the human body is, it's like a, well it is a biological computer, but what it does... It's your narrowly focused consciousness.
00:49:16.000frequency range of reality, which scientists call visible light.
00:49:21.000People think when they look out of their eyes that they're seeing everything that exists in the space they're looking at.
00:49:26.000They are looking at a tiny, tiny frequency range of the mass and matter that mainstream science says exists in this universe, and there's a lot more than they've discovered yet.
00:49:38.000The electromagnetic spectrum is 0.005% of that, and visible light is a fraction of the 0.005%.
00:49:47.000That is the only frequency range that our eyes decode and our brain and genetic system decodes.
00:49:54.000And sharing the same space as this, if you like, television station, which we call physical reality, or endless other realities, just like in the space that I'm sitting in now.
00:50:05.000All the radio and television stations broadcasting to California are in the space that I'm occupying.
00:50:12.000They're not interfering with each other.
00:50:13.000They're not aware of each other unless they're really close on the dial.
00:50:18.000And we are experiencing a frequency range which we decode into this reality.
00:50:25.000And the physical body, the body computer, locks us into that frequency range.
00:50:31.000So when we leave the body and these near-death experiences experience this, we leave that limitation, that focus, that television station, and suddenly we expand to the full magnitude of who we are.
00:50:42.000What the conspiracy is about, because at the core the shadow people understand this, is hypnotizing us from cradle to grave to believe that we are the vehicle which is focusing our consciousness to experience this reality and that we are as limited as that vehicle perceives the world.
00:51:02.000That is how you can turn humanity, infinite consciousness, infinite expressions into a herd of sheep.
00:51:09.000When we break that understanding, when we move our point of observation from, I am Chuck Jones, I have no power, to I am infinite consciousness, Having an experience and I can take that understanding that power and I can change this reality because I know that we got a brain is that I am Then we have to break right now.
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00:52:59.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:54:35.000All they want us to do is Keep on forcing and fighting They don't want to see us live together All they want us to do All they want us to do is Keep on killing one another It's a bracket It's a bracket
00:55:05.000What an amazing discussion with David Icke.
00:55:07.000During the breaks, we're doing some behind-the-scenes talking, but I'd like to keep it congruent with the full audience.
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00:55:16.000Those are separate from many others, including Genesis, and hear the expanded interview there or watch on PrisonPlanet.tv.
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00:55:45.000But the most important thing is the materials are waking people up and people Are more ready to receive this information than ever before.
00:55:53.000Another great place to find out a lot of shocking information, which regardless will open your horizons, make you question, and regardless of whether it's all correct or not, it is extremely positive to question.
00:56:05.000And I see that's the genius of David Icke, and I really agree with him on 98% of what he covers.
00:56:10.000I just haven't been able to tangibly prove the other 2%.
00:56:13.000My gut tells me, and I hope for God's sake it's probably true, but the point is, is that I stick to what I can prove more in this plane of existence, because I've found that's more successful with people who aren't further down the research line.
00:56:25.000Everybody should visit davideike.com, just google David Icke, and of course you spell his name, I-C-K-E, and he's got a lot of great books and videos available there at davideyke.com.
00:56:39.000Okay, David, we've got about four minutes until this segment, so we're already being into the second hour.
00:56:44.000You were getting into the nature of reality when I had to cut you off for the break there and how we are limited down to just this level of life, but everybody knows in their gut and everything else that there's something more.
00:56:56.000You know when somebody's looking at you in a restaurant, you know when you're in the woods and somebody's over the next hill.
00:57:01.000I mean, there's so much more to all of this, and the enemy is obsessed with it, and they're into dark energy, and they're into torture and blood and death.
00:57:09.000I mean, the best example in the last few months is a sickening artist like Damien Hurst who sells a bucket of maggots, you know, a jar of maggots, saggots for 4 million pounds or a crystal devil skull for 100 million pounds or 98 million pounds or images of razor blades and blood and tortured babies for 20 million pounds.
00:57:30.000And the elite go and buy this and they say, we're buying this because we are worshipping this.
00:57:39.000Everything in the end comes down to a vibrational state.
00:57:45.000The lower it is, the more limited you are.
00:57:48.000The more narrow-minded, I would say narrow-banded you are, the more you expand your consciousness, the more the energy vibrates quicker.
00:57:58.000We are experiencing a band of frequencies.
00:58:01.000Now, our consciousness is vibrating too quickly to interact with it.
00:58:05.000If my consciousness tried to interact with this book on this table in front of me, I couldn't pick it up, just as Radio A couldn't interact with Radio 2, because they share the same space, but they're not close enough on the dial to interact with each other.
00:58:18.000So consciousness takes on an outer shell that is vibrating within the frequency range it wants to interact with.
00:58:25.000Therefore, because I have that, I can pick that book up because they're operating in the same frequency range they can interact.
00:58:31.000The whole basis of this conspiracy, Alex, is to manipulate us to identify who we are with the physical vehicle we are using to experience this reality because that sees everything in terms of apartness.
00:58:46.000He sees everything in terms of limitation.
00:58:48.000And once you're in what I call body consciousness, which basically filters reality through the five senses, you're into a state of powerlessness, of limitation, of icon.
00:58:58.000And crucially, you're in a state of seeing everything as a part, which is the perfect vehicle, the perfect landscape, to bring about divide and rule to different religions.
00:59:28.000Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
00:59:29.000How do the American people know that 9-11 wasn't staged, wasn't engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C.A.R.?
00:59:37.000The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door!
00:59:45.000Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
01:00:51.000Finishing up with the nature of reality and then expanding into not just the positive reality and love and light and goodness, but then we're going to get into the dark side and what makes up the enemy.
01:01:05.000Well, this is the key, and this might, you know, shock a few people when they think about it, but this reality that we are experiencing as solid walls and an apparently solid world is just an illusion.
01:01:19.000The only place it exists is in our heads, and it is what I call the holographic internet.
01:01:27.000I'm in this room now, and if I look around, the wireless internet is in this room, but I can't see it.
01:01:35.000But if I get a computer and I tune it into the wireless internet, suddenly I have a complete worldwide collective reality called the World Wide Web, which can be accessed anywhere in China, They'll fire walled off to a large extent.
01:01:49.000Australia, South America, London, anywhere in the world, people can tap in through that computer into the same collective reality.
01:01:57.000What they make of it is their unique spin, but it's the same reality.
01:02:01.000And if you said to people, tell me about the internet, they'd say, well, it's graphics and websites and colors on a screen.
01:02:23.000But the only place that television exists in that form is on the screen.
01:02:26.000Everywhere else it is electronic circuits and frequency fields which the television decodes into those pixels.
01:02:33.000What we do through this physical vehicle, what we call physical anyway, is we're decoding a reality on exactly the same principle, though fantastically more sophisticated, as the wireless internet.
01:02:45.000And this is where we get our collective reality from.
01:02:47.000Now this is vital to the conspiracy, Alex, because If you know this and the people don't, then you can manipulate the way they decode reality to fit what you want those people to do.
01:03:01.000What is that stage hypnotist doing on a stage?
01:03:03.000He is manipulating the stoogiest sense of reality.
01:03:07.000In other words, the way they decode reality.
01:03:09.000So he'll give one, for instance, a potato and he'll I'll eat the potato, but he beforehand will have programmed the brain, the decoding system, to believe that it's an apple.
01:03:20.000So as the message goes from the taste buds to the brain, as an electrical signal, the brain decodes that not as a potato, but as an apple.
01:03:29.000You try telling that guy he's not eating an apple, because he's tasting it.
01:03:33.000I went to stage images shows when I was researching all this, and I watched it happen.
01:03:37.000I watched people reel back with fantastic smells.
01:03:41.000Well it shows predictive programming and they have those TV shows where they really do it and they found in studies that the population is more suggestible, massively more suggestible than they were just 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago.
01:04:01.000We're being programmed by TV to be more suggestible and now everything's like You know, Times Square, where they're taking over reality with blimps and with TV screens, and where everything is becoming this Minority Report world.
01:04:18.000And because they know that this information I'm talking about now, they understand this at the shallow people level, and they are programming just like hypnotists.
01:04:28.000They're programming the decoding system of the brain to decode reality, this wireless Internet, this holographic cosmic Internet, if you like, we call the physical world, to decode it in a way that suits them in terms of limitation, in terms of how we see ourselves.
01:04:46.000We're all these individual biomechanical machines marching around the surface of a giant planetoid covered by oceans and a thin ribbon of atmosphere who are all individually experiencing just a very narrow band of reality and then they're even trying to program that narrow band and use our social conditioning to keep us in very small parameters, David, correct?
01:05:09.000They're trying to isolate us in the body consciousness vehicle, which has an ability to think for itself.
01:05:16.000It's not just like an ordinary computer.
01:06:00.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:06:03.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers' ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:08:20.0008 0 4 0 8 don't wait until it's too late get the t.com big brother mainstream media government cover-ups you want answers Well, so does he.
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01:08:50.000I asked David Eicher earlier to plug some of his books and videos, and he said, nope, I'm not going to plug them.
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01:09:18.000I'm running more of a news organization, so my needs are greater.
01:09:21.000So that keeps me back on the, you know, straight and narrow of just trying to fund this operation.
01:09:26.000Now, he's just traveling around the world, speaking to huge crowds of people and writing books and making videos every year, and we just really appreciate him.
01:09:33.000David, I was asking you the question for the InfoWars Internet audience, now we're back on the main audience, about the mapmakers of the mind.
01:09:40.000It's also dangerous if we unlock minds.
01:09:45.000Or people unlock their own minds by us pointing out that they're locked.
01:09:48.000And then the New World Order has set up lots of spiritual traps, or lots of, you wouldn't even call it spiritual coding traps is what I would call them, of false rabbit trails, which are meant to suck people into very dangerous cults, very dangerous Eastern organizations, all sorts of New World Order stuff.
01:10:05.000Because the New World Order knows this, they're into it, so they've made it all very dark, and they capture people that break up through the control matrix, and they're swimming up, And the New World Order captures them in...
01:10:21.000I'm showing people, you know, here's the mass-controlled consciousness that believes the Federal Reserve is federal, and the government loves you, and everything's fine, and melamine plastic's good for your kidneys, and poison's good for you.
01:10:31.000You know, they're down here, but more and more are breaking through, swimming up, so the New World Order's created lots of false solutions, and lots of, I mean, it's very sophisticated, and then they infest the, you know, consciousness crowd, and knowing that people are going to escape, they're there to capture them.
01:10:48.000How do people protect themselves from that?
01:10:51.000Well, this is the bottom line of what they're doing, Alex.
01:10:56.000You can call it soul, I call it infinite consciousness, expanded consciousness, whatever you like.
01:11:00.000The idea is to keep that from imposing or infusing its level of wisdom and awareness and love and the understanding that everything is one through the physical vehicle computer into this reality.
01:11:16.000It wants to isolate the computer and then into what I call body consciousness, which also includes the lower auric field, the electromagnetic field.
01:11:24.000And then have us manifest evil through it using us as a puppet.
01:11:29.000Yeah, the thing is that once you disconnect from, if you like, higher levels of awareness and you become encased in body consciousness, you're looking outside of yourself for information to get a fix on life, yourself, the nature of reality.
01:11:45.000What you learn at school, what you learn through the media, what you learn from bankers and politicians and all the rest of it.
01:11:50.000In other words, what they're doing is isolating the computer from our consciousness, what you would call soul, and then programming the computer with the reality that suits the agenda.
01:12:01.000Now, as people awaken, there are, what I've called in my books, endless cul-de-sacs, which are being set up, little mouse traps.
01:12:10.000to take people away from the full magnitude of expressing the full power and awareness of who they are into things like the New Age and into other things where they can be, if you like, yeah, put it in a cul-de-sac.
01:12:23.000I mean, I've called the New Age in my books the last cul-de-sac before the gold mine because it takes people away from understanding that they are the power.
01:12:32.000And again, it hands power to other people, some guru or some New Age guy or whatever, just as the religions in all their forms are about the people handing their power and their belief systems over to others.
01:12:47.000We are infinite consciousness We're all expressions of the same consciousness That's why the fighting between it is so idiotic and stupid and ridiculous But that's what happens when you lose that understanding of unity and you see everything in in a partners because you're caught in the in the body body computer so what we need to do is to move our point of observation of the world and ourselves from i am ethel smith in the computer i am the computer to i am infinite consciousness having an experience through this computer
01:13:14.000in this tiny frequency range we call the the physical world and everyone else whose eyes i look into are the same consciousness as me having a different experience yeah back into myself and that's the incredible thing is that just in a meat and potatoes way let's say there is no consciousness about this which we know is a lie but through genetic consciousness it's all a mirror
01:13:35.000I understand that I am all those that came before me, and I am passing on through my children, everybody that came before me and who I was, and I realize I'm going to love my children's grandchildren, who I'll never meet, or their great-grandchildren, As much as I love my children, or I love myself, in fact, more so, and so why would I want to commit a crime against the genetic code?
01:13:57.000Why would I want to commit a crime against humanity when I'm related to all these people, whether they be black or white, Chinese or German, and I realize that, and then I ask myself, how, why does the New World Order revel They know the Mercury is damaging the genetic code.
01:14:12.000They know the GMO is attacking and actually mutating the human species.
01:14:16.000They know they're attacking the Earth.
01:14:17.000And then they give us fake environmentalism when we rebel against that and then use it to control us more.
01:14:24.000Now we've talked about the positive side, the enemy.
01:14:27.000They understand this system, but the controllers, the shadow behind the throne, The power behind the throne, they have made the conscious decision to revel in darkness and destruction.
01:14:41.000Well, let's just go one point, which kind of relates to this, but relates to what you just said.
01:14:46.000Take consciousness to be the most brilliant computer programmer in the world.
01:14:52.000And he's sitting at his desk in front of a computer, symbolic of the body, shall we say, and he's trying to get his genius through that computer into the reality on the screen, this world.
01:15:04.000If that computer is destabilized, if it's not working, if it's got viruses, if it's not decoding properly, if it's got various things wrong with it, if it's electrically imbalanced and its decoding system is distorted, I don't care if that guy in that chair Symbolic of our true self, our true consciousness is the best computer programmers ever lived.
01:15:28.000He's not going to pass that genius through that computer.
01:15:30.000So this conspiracy, Alex, is about attacking the vehicle, the decoding system, to make sure that it is inefficient and imbalanced and doesn't operate to the true efficiency and magnitude that it possibly We could.
01:16:08.000Because they're talking now about connecting the human brain to a computer, and you can work the computer through your thoughts, is because they're two computers, one more sophisticated by stunning margin than the other, but that's what they're doing.
01:16:21.000So the idea is to attack the vehicle, the computer, on every level they can.
01:16:27.000That includes programming it through words and repetition of lies, like Bin Laden was behind 9-11 and all this stuff.
01:16:35.000And eventually, repetition is a wonderful mind manipulation technique and programming technique.
01:16:41.000And the computer then starts reading reality to fit the programming.
01:16:44.000Once you introduce consciousness, those programs start to break down and that's when people start to wake up.
01:16:50.000No, I was just going to agree with you.
01:16:55.000That's why, when you study eugenics, publicly they say it's about making the race better and getting rid of the bad, but real eugenics, at the PhD level, they say, no, we've got to mutate and dumb down the mass of people, so we in the future, and this is a hundred years ago, you know, all the top eugenicists, and we put it in the film Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, all the proof, there's a bibliography of it, whatistheendgame.com, they say, we really want to wreck humanity, so we can greedily control it for ourselves, because they'd rather rule in hell than serve in heaven.
01:17:56.000And they're affecting this energy field that we're living in in the lower levels around the Earth, which we can operate in as humans in this world.
01:18:05.000And they are infiltrating it with all this electromagnetic pollution, which is designed to disrupt the ability of the computer to access higher consciousness.
01:18:47.000All the programmed brains that are broadcasting the evil, you're also away from those.
01:18:52.000And it's the incredible peace of being out in the middle of nowhere.
01:18:57.000Yep, you know the computer talks, consciousness knows.
01:19:01.000That's why when you go into the silence and you quieten your mind, you can get incredible insights that you can't when the mind chatter is going.
01:19:08.000Because the computer mind chatter never really stops.
01:19:11.000Everyone listening to this show will understand what I mean.
01:19:46.000Yeah, there was a line in that which encapsulates what we're saying here.
01:19:49.000It said, keep them busy, busy, busy back on the farm with their other animals.
01:19:53.000They're trying to keep our mines occupied constantly.
01:19:56.000because the mind chatter is occupied by that level of entertainment that we get on the television, what passes for it, the news, the televisions that are on, off the radios, all the time, mind chatter, mind chatter.
01:20:09.000And that holds us in body consciousness reality, because it's dealing with words, which is a body consciousness decoder.
01:20:16.000Okay, David, I want to ask you advice about myself personally.
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01:25:29.000Well, first of all, in terms of where we're going with this, we need to get a blank sheet of paper.
01:25:38.000I'm not talking as some guru who's on a mountain and telling you how to do it.
01:25:45.000I'm telling you what's happened to me over the last 20 years.
01:25:50.000It's a simple thing, Alex, but my goodness me is it powerful in how it pans out and plays out and changes in your life and everything.
01:26:00.000Once you look in the mirror and you identify what you are looking at with the vehicle that's allowing you to experience this frequency range we call the world, and you move your sense of identity to, I am infinite consciousness, I am all that is, has been and ever will be, not that time exists outside of this reality, it's another figment of our manipulated imagination.
01:27:48.000And I tell you what, when you get to this level of consciousness, Alex, something that would change this world overnight because of all that would come from it, if people started making decisions not based on what is right for me in the circumstances before me, and that turns out often not to be right for you anyway, but what is right End of story in the circumstances that I face.
01:28:18.000What do I need to do to pursue that version of what is right?
01:28:21.000And if we did that, there'd be no hunger, there'd be no conflict, there'd be no child abuse, there'd be no environmental abuse, there'd be none of this stuff.
01:28:29.000We'd be in a completely different level of consciousness, and therefore we'd be in a completely different level of experiences of this world.
01:28:38.000As Albert Einstein said, You cannot solve problems with the same level of consciousness that created them.
01:28:45.000And because we've got caught in body consciousness and not the high soul consciousness, if you like, that we really are, therefore we bring a political party in with a certain level of consciousness and we replace it with another with the same level of consciousness.
01:29:00.000We interact with the world with the same level of consciousness and then we wonder why the world never changes for the better because the same level of consciousness that is creating the problems, then returns to create more problems.
01:29:13.000We have to move into an expanded level of awareness of who we are, the nature of reality, the illusory nature of reality that we live in, and then we can have a paradise here, because illusions only control you when you think they're real, and that's the key to this conspiracy.
01:29:30.000It's been persuading people that this illusion that we're interacting with, and we can have great fun and joy with, is actually real.
01:29:37.000And once you buy that one, you're in body consciousness, and you're in the slammer.
01:29:44.000And we're at a time now with this awakening when we can open the door and transform this world.
01:29:54.000David, I don't want to turn this into a massive extravaganza.
01:30:01.000No, I tell you, you want to go into the dark stuff, I'll tell you about that.
01:30:04.000Well, well, well, the thing is, well, I mean, I know that you've got a lot of things to do, but I would love, and I promise you we would end it then and also give you a break later.
01:30:14.000What if we did 20 minutes into the next hour?
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01:31:59.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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01:33:42.000But I do want to take some time out and take some calls before the show ends as well.
01:33:47.000David, during the break, when we were still talking for the internet audience on PrisonPlanet.tv, we were discussing, you know, I was saying, well, the elite are like a cancer, though.
01:34:09.000And I can't imagine having the knowledge of the wonders of being good and being loving and doing all that and then making the conscious decision to be dark and wicked.
01:34:21.000And as good guys, how do we stand up against them?
01:34:23.000Well, they are locked into such a depth of their own body consciousness.
01:34:31.000That's why there's other connections to that.
01:34:37.000But they're so locked into that level of reality that that's why they're so good at manipulating it, right?
01:34:44.000They're almost like soulless beings who have lost such contact with these higher levels of awareness that basically, if you look at the way they operate, they operate through intellect.
01:35:52.000And it's why I've been saying for years, if you see what they would do on the basis of what you would do, then you've lost the plot because they're not the same because of what I've been talking about.
01:36:10.000But, you know, these people interact on a human level with entities that operate just outside of visible light.
01:36:19.000You know, as I said right at the start of this chat today, I'm sitting here in California and all the television and radio stations broadcast in California are sharing the same space that I'm sharing now.
01:36:31.000They're not on top of each other like a chest of drawers, they're sharing the same space because they're vibrating at different speeds.
01:36:36.000Now when you get two stations that are very close to each other, There's close enough interference, interference symbolic of interaction, and these entities that these people worship in their stupid, sick and horrific rituals are to interact with these entities that operate just outside of visible light, just outside of human sight.
01:37:01.000And what these entities do is they feed off low vibrational human energy, which is fear, stress, all these different expressions of low vibrational energy.
01:37:12.000And this, Alex, is where the age-old term of sacrificing young virgins to the gods comes from.
01:37:18.000What are young virgins symbolic of in that term?
01:37:24.000I've understood this by talking to people who've taken part in these things overwhelmingly against their will.
01:37:30.000What these entities do is they are there at the ritual, and they put these children and other people, too, through horrific rituals, and they build them up to a state of absolute terror.
01:37:44.000And this is releasing this really low vibrational energy of terror, and it also puts an adrenaline in the bloodstream, which the human elite drink like a nectar.
01:38:00.000So when they do the sacrifice, the entity automatically...
01:38:04.000or entities that they're doing the ritual for, which have various names in different parts of the world, they absorb this energy like an energetic sustenance to them, while the human level of it, they drink the blood which has this adrenaline in.
01:38:20.000And this is one reason, there are many other reasons, why they do these rituals.
01:38:26.000And so a mass creation of this energy, a mass version of this ritual, we call wars.
01:38:36.000We call credit crunches and banking collapses because of all the stress and fear energy that is released by the people in the face of these things.
01:38:46.000So on one level, it's not the only reason they do it, but on one level they're manipulating fearful stress creating terror creating event to actually elicit that energy low vibrational energy from the people why so it's not just a very evil and enjoy it it is a psychic war and they're polluting everything with the gloom and doom yeah that bring in everything
01:39:10.000or as i said earlier they they they all massively locked into low low low vibrational consciousness There is almost no light there at all, and that's why they act like they do.
01:39:22.000You know, we've had this age-old theme, Alex, through the centuries and thousands of years right across the world in ancient accounts about the soulless ones.
01:39:33.000And, you know, Christians would talk about demonic entities, and the Muslims would talk about the gins and stuff.
01:39:40.000These are all different names for the same thing we're talking about here.
01:39:43.000Well, I've talked to top psychologists who study the serial killers, and they describe it as if they're dead.
01:39:49.000They have no emotion, nothing in life, but there's like a burning light.
01:39:53.000They only feel alive while they're torturing a child, while they're doing something particularly horrible, and so they become total slaves to it.
01:40:02.000Yeah, and they're also slaves to something else.
01:40:07.000Now, this is another important thing to start connecting some dots here.
01:40:11.000Why is this human elite obsessed with interbreeding, with each other, and not interbreeding outside of itself?
01:40:21.000Because if you really break it down to the level that we're talking about today, Alex, Well, the Egyptians said they were gods, and they had to keep that bloodline in the family.
01:40:31.000Yeah, but what's the obsession with bloodline?
01:40:36.000When you procreate, you are in effect downloading two hard drives, called DNA and whatever, onto one hard drive, which we call the new child body computer.
01:40:50.000The child's body is a computer like everyone else.
01:40:53.000Now, that means that these bloodlines, when they interbreed, what they're holding is, in effect, a software program, a certain vibrational field, which is the fusion of the two aspects of the same genetic line, i.e., the same, you know, aristocracy or royal family, whatever.
01:41:21.000The Elite Bloodlines in physical form within this reality, they are vibrating to a particular frequency which, because it's a hybrid, has a vibrational sympathy with these entities operating just outside of visible light, human sight, and therefore that
01:41:43.000vibrational connection allows these particular bloodlines to be possessed, another ancient theme right up to the present day, by these entities much more powerfully and efficiently in terms of controlling their mental and emotional processes than they can with the rest of the by these entities much more powerfully and efficiently in terms of They can with the rest of the population.
01:42:04.000You've got a human bloodline, which is a hybrid bloodline with a certain type of DNA which they interbreed incessantly and have over the centuries to hold.
01:42:14.000This allows a vibrational connection with these entities which allows the possession of these human forms by these non-human entities.
01:42:22.000And then you've got the secret society network, which manipulates these human elite bloodlines that we talk constantly about into the positions of power, and indeed their gophers into the positions of power.
01:42:34.000And what we're actually doing is putting, or they're doing, is putting these entities into those positions of power.
01:42:41.000But because we look at them with our five-cent sight, we decode only the human level, so that's all we see.
01:42:49.000But if you could tease out your visual acuity and see a wider range of frequencies as you look at these people, you would see anything but a human entity overshadowing it.
01:43:01.000And this is what these bloodlines are about, having vibrational compatibility with these entities which they worship, these gods that they worship.
01:43:23.000They did some other ritual over behind the trees that was the real ritual, and they did the mock human sacrifice of the child, and that's in their own literature.
01:43:31.000Now Macy's has come out with all of this Bohemian Grove, the Knights of the Illuminati, 666, you know, the Uh, you know, the hell group.
01:43:42.000I mean, now they're really throwing it in our face.
01:43:45.000And we always know that through the popular fashions, they telegraph what's coming in the future.
01:43:50.000Why are we seeing all the skulls and death and now Illuminati clothing?
01:43:55.000Yeah, because they understand, because they are so entrapped in computer-level reality, they understand this stadium.
01:44:04.000And so what they're doing is trying to pull all the time, as we talked about in this chat today, They're trying to pull humanity into a sense of reality that operates in the same stadium.
01:44:16.000And that's what the Roman Colosseums were all about, the blood and death.
01:44:22.000They are absolutely terrified of this awakening, which they knew was coming, and they know is now here.
01:44:31.000They're terrified of it, and they're desperately pushing this agenda forward, not least the microchip.
01:44:37.000Because the real idea of the microchip, yes, it's for electronic tagging, and the computer knows where everyone is, yes.
01:44:44.000But I've been given chapter and verse by a CIA scientist about this many years ago now, 10 years in fact, 1997, 1998.
01:44:51.000The idea is to hijack the body computer through the microchip so they can externally manipulate us vibrationally, physically, mentally, and emotionally from a distance, either en masse or isolating us as individuals.
01:45:06.000And the reason that they, there's many reasons for the same thing, but a major, major reason for wanting a world DNA database is, It's because we all vibrate, although we vibrate within a certain frequency range, we all vibrate on our own unique signal as well.
01:45:22.000And if you know someone's DNA through the technology they have, they can work out that unique signal and target it.
01:45:29.000It's what the whole conspiracy comes down to in the end, and everything else is playing it out.
01:45:35.000Well, we knew from the Army plan that was written up in the 80s and classified in 2000, In February, we know in there that the Army says that through FADS, through security, through prisoners, through Alzheimer's patients, and through having law enforcement be forced to take chips, they could then force the public to do it.
01:45:56.000And now if you want to be a fighter pilot, you're going to have to have it.
01:46:01.000They are preparing the public that if you want to have a job, you're going to have to have basically this little wire port into your brain.
01:46:08.000And the Army says that by 2025, all of us will be, this is what they say, and this is where the movie The Matrix came from, was from the DARPA, exactly, from the DARPA reports, and this is in my book, Descent into Tyranny, they say that they're going to put us all in tanks to be in the hive mind, so that movie is the plan.
01:46:31.000Well, the Hype Mind is something I've been writing about for a long, long time, and you can only put people... Because, you know, when I talk about, you know, infinite consciousness, I'm not talking about everyone being a clone and acting the same.
01:46:43.000Infinite consciousness is infinite possibilities.
01:46:46.000Yeah, tie it into the bigger picture, not into the narrow band.
01:46:52.000You're not just saying this, the official army prospectus says this is the plan for full spectrum dominance because there'll be no more war, we'll all be safe if we're in these tanks.
01:47:05.000You can't make stuff up that's weirder than last year, the British ten year prospectus talked about having a neutron bomb.
01:47:12.000Us, if we resist them, having to kill masses of us, flash mobs.
01:47:17.000I mean, people think David Icke is weird or off the charts.
01:47:21.000If you read what DARPA and the Pentagon and their head futurist, Mr. Marshall, are saying, it's all even stranger than David Icke.
01:47:29.000Oh yeah, I mean, you know, the rabbit hole goes much deeper than any of us have got yet, but the thing is, Alex, as you were saying, and I was pointing out, the infinite consciousness is all possibility, so expressing your uniqueness, your maverick, your unique spin on life is actually expressing the infinite consciousness.
01:47:49.000That changes the controlled paradigm, so we're taking it over cell by cell.
01:47:54.000So, when you talk, as you just have about those documents, you know, the tanks and everyone becoming a hive mind, they can only create a hive, and they can't get to consciousness.
01:48:26.000And people should not for a second underestimate the incredible, extraordinarily amazing magnitude of what's going on.
01:48:37.000Yes, we need to know what the manipulation and the conspiracy is doing, so we streetwise do it, and there are enormous numbers of people who still don't realize they're slaves, who need that information to realize that they are, then they can do something about it.
01:48:56.000Check it out and then put it into action.
01:48:58.000It doesn't mean you'll be a master of this overnight.
01:49:01.000Just start questioning the system, stop watching TV, love your family, eat healthy, go out and warn people, expose the bankers, and that leads you on the path to expanding your horizons.
01:49:11.000David Ike, what an amazing individual.
01:49:13.000We're going to skip this next break as well for the Internet listeners.
01:49:25.000You both express yourself so eloquently.
01:49:27.000I've been wanting to talk with both of y'all for a while.
01:49:30.000And, you know, talking about the dynamics of these vibrational frequencies, you've covered it pretty good.
01:49:37.000What I think we have coming toward us, those that are truth-rising, such as the both of you and your listening audience, is that we're approaching a point of separation.
01:49:49.000They've kept by keeping us in fear, they've brought us down to their low life vibration that you've expressed so eloquently.
01:49:56.000And by us raising our vibration frequency by getting above their fear that they're trying to perpetrate us and keep us beat down, we will be able to raise our vibration frequency to a point that they won't be able to exist because they are so low life and dishonest and You know, they create the killing field, they've contaminated the planet, you know, the food, the water, everything, you know, and they operate with no conscience.
01:50:22.000And I just feel like we're approaching that point of separation where they won't be able to function in their thought forms in a higher vibration.
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01:55:08.000We don't come here to then ignore the fact that we're here.
01:55:10.000I would say this to people who awaken, quote, spiritually, you know, we don't come here to awaken our consciousness and then ignore the fact that we're actually here because we've opened our consciousness.
01:55:22.000Consciousness has to express itself to make the changes in society.
01:55:49.000Just for you to listen to the audience, one way through my own personal experience of raising my personal vibration and recognizing it as it happens is the feeling of goosebumps.
01:55:58.000You know, that's just a surge of vital energy coming into every cell of your body, head to toe.
01:56:45.000Alright, twisting the arm of David Icke, DavidIcke.com, and when this radio show ends on the AM and FM dial in three minutes, you'll have to tune to InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com on those streams or PrisonPlanet.tv to see us go live into overdrive right now.
01:57:02.000Uh, Ashore in Oklahoma, you're on the air with David Icke.
01:57:08.000Yes, um, Mr. Jones, I've been listening to you for about three years now.
01:57:14.000I have quite an extensive notebook of notes that I've been keeping relative to many of your shows.
01:57:20.000This one in particular struck my interest because you're speaking of vibrational energy, which you've been referring to as frequencies.
01:57:28.000I've been studying that phenomenon for some time now, mainly through ancient languages.
01:57:35.000And, uh, for example, I am of the belief, based on extensive research, that what you refer to as the New World Order and the current economic crisis is actually a transformation of the Beast of Mammon that will re-emerge as the Neo-Roman Empire.
01:57:53.000And one of the reasons I say that is because of the calendar that Western culture and most of the industrialized world lives by is the same calendar that was implemented by Julius Caesar in 46 B.C.
01:58:06.000And that what we are experiencing now is, in fact, the culmination of the prophecy relative to... Alright, stop right there.
01:58:17.000Again, my websites are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
01:58:20.000When David leaves us in five minutes, I'm going to cover the latest economic developments in overdrive only at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:58:28.000But in the 30 seconds we've got left, the main transmission, David, That we have to end this in just a few minutes, because other shows are coming up, and I've got to get off the line.
01:58:39.000Well, we're just going to go into retransmission now, but bottom line, David, they are trying to recreate empires they've had previously, and I'll ask you right now, as we go into overdrive, why they are doing that.
01:58:51.000Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, into overdrive, right now.
01:58:56.000David, I'm going to let you go in just five minutes because I've got to get off this network line, but network, I'm fine to be here for five minutes, I know that.
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01:59:50.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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02:03:07.000Aaron, finish up with your other points on eugenics.
02:03:09.000I was going to rapid-fire a Margaret Singer quote and then finally a Richard Dawkins quote.
02:03:14.000Margaret Singer, the most merciful thing a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.
02:03:18.000Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.
02:03:22.000Eugenics sterilization is an urgent need.
02:03:24.000We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock.
02:03:28.000Eugenics is the most adequate and thorough avenue to solution of racial, political, and social problems.
02:03:34.000And Richard Dawkins has this kind of open thought of, uh, what if eugenics came back?
02:03:39.000In the 1920s and 1930s, scientists from both the political left and right would not have found the idea of designer babies particularly dangerous.
02:03:47.000Though, of course, they would not have used that phrase.
02:03:50.000Today, I suspect that the idea is too dangerous for comfortable discussion, and my conjecture is that Adolf Hitler is responsible for the change.
02:03:58.000Nobody wants to be caught agreeing with that monster, even in a single particular.
02:04:02.000The specter of Hitler has led some scientists to stray from ought to is and deny that breeding for human qualities is even possible.
02:04:10.000But if you can breed cattle for milk, horses for speed, dogs for skill, why shouldn't you breed humans for mathematical, musical, or athletic ability?
02:04:19.000I wonder some 60 years after Hitler's death, Why we might at least venture to ask what the moral difference is between breeding for musical ability.
02:04:27.000And the problem is with breeding, you're talking about exterminating most of the puppies or kittens that are born.
02:04:32.000You're talking about the state having this incredible control.
02:04:35.000And in special breed, you get more mental illness, more inherited diseases, and the elites that are bred, most of their children are born retarded or had serious mental illness problems.
02:04:45.000But do they give up this system of control?
02:04:48.000No, they've only intensified it down throughout the last hundred plus years.
02:04:53.000And now they're practicing their eugenics upon us through the vaccines, through the chemtrails, through the entire system.
02:04:59.000Aaron, I want to have you back up in a couple weeks again for a whole other discussion and other areas of eugenics because this is the governing system, the ideology of the New World Order.
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02:09:18.000And he also campaigns for the legalization of marijuana, the decriminalization.
02:09:23.000You got 80 plus percent of drug users only use marijuana.
02:09:26.000They need to keep it that way so that they need to keep it illegal so they can SWAT team raid more people and fill more prisons.
02:09:33.000Well, the government has been caught hundreds of times shipping in heroin and cocaine and laundering the money.
02:09:38.000Did you know it's legal for foreign drug money to be invested in the New York Stock Exchange?
02:09:42.000And the former head, Richard Grasso, when he was head of the New York Stock Exchange, was in Reuters going to the FARC, communist guerrillas, and saying, invest your cocaine money with us.
02:09:50.000I'm going off on a rant here about the decriminalization of marijuana.
02:09:54.000They need to keep it illegal because, what is it, 86-87% of people only smoke marijuana that uses illegal drugs.
02:10:32.000You're going to be with us for the next 50 minutes at the bottom of the hour.
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02:10:39.000In the last 10 months or so since you were on with us, a lot has happened.
02:10:42.000The top Italian former presidents, German defense ministers, Japanese diet members, best actress, so many prominent people have gone public for 9-11 Truth.
02:10:54.000Give us your take on the evolution of it and why 9-11 Truth is so important, and why you took the step of speaking out, Mark.
02:11:11.000Obviously, you know, through online research and through the amount of books and magazines that have come out now, you know, enough authors have come forward and stated their opinion.
02:11:21.000And I think what's really important now is You know, obviously, people early on, shortly after the 9-11 attacks, were kind of pigeonholed as conspiracy theorists.
02:11:33.000But now, that label, it never did apply, but it's less applicable now than ever.
02:11:40.000Simply because the people who are coming out in favor of 9-11 Truth are too credible to ignore.
02:11:47.000You know, in the last few years we've had the formation of things like Scholars for 9-11 Truth, which includes architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth, pilots for 9-11 Truth.
02:12:00.000We have former people who worked in government, including the current administration, who are coming out and saying that they don't believe the official story.
02:12:10.000So it's just a case of, you know, as more people become exposed to it, as the media blackouts and mainstream media continues, mostly via the internet, people are becoming connected and becoming aware of these facts and voicing their opinion.
02:12:28.000You know, it's never too late for anybody who feels strongly about this issue to come forward and voice their opinion, because I think As time goes on, people will be surprised to find out that if they are no longer worried about expressing their skepticism of the official story regarding 9-11, they will find out that there are a lot of people out there, you might refer to them as a silent majority, who also feel very much the same way.
02:12:58.000They are either too afraid or too reluctant to come forward and also express their doubts in the official story.
02:13:23.000But what made you decide to take that leap?
02:13:27.000I just, you know, I got tired of waiting for the channels of government to move along in a proper fashion.
02:13:36.000You know, like a lot of people, I had hope, it turns out to be false hope, in retrospect, but I had hope at the time that maybe the 9-11 Commission would be legitimate.
02:13:52.000You know, the safeguards are in place in constitutional government.
02:13:56.000I thought that they would kick in and operate in the manner in which they're supposed to.
02:14:01.000And we would see a proper investigation, you know, with relevant witnesses and Evidence.
02:14:10.000And, as we all know, none of that really came to fruition.
02:14:18.000It was a modern-day version of the Warren Commission as far as its attempt to silence witnesses and suppress truth-tellers.
02:14:29.000And, you know, when things reached that point and that commission was shown to be the impotent vehicle that it was, I just felt compelled to, in my own small way, say whatever I could as far as what I thought the truth was.
02:14:45.000Well, Mark, that isn't in your own small way.
02:14:49.000It's not just that you're a celebrity or a well-known sports figure.
02:14:53.000It's that people resonate with the courage of a Willie Nelson or a Mark Stepnowski or a former German defense minister or a former governor.
02:15:02.000They resonate And they know that person has a lot to lose.
02:15:17.000The Chicago Tribune Four months ago, reported as well as Associated Press, the NSA declassified that Israel did attack the U.S.' 's liberty to try to sink it, to blame it on Egypt to start World War III, as they've now tried, the U.S.
02:15:51.000So, government-sponsored terror, the fact the Gulf of Tonkin was staged, that's all coming out now, and people say, well, that was seven years ago, you know, 9-11, why are you so concerned?
02:16:01.000Well, because Black Ops is going to continue to stage terror attacks as a pretext for control if we don't step up and expose that they're behind it.
02:16:18.000It's been just one instant after another.
02:16:21.000We saw last year where Bush and Tony Blair had the plan to send U.S.
02:16:28.000military planes over Iran disguised as U.N.
02:16:32.000planes to try and instigate an attack on them so we would be justified in responding.
02:16:38.000I remember also last year there was a big new Brzezinski appearing in the press, practically coming right out and saying, you know, we had to worry about the current administration putting together a false flag terror op to stimulate we had to worry about the current administration putting together a false flag This is a guy who is now Barack Obama's main foreign policy advisor.
02:17:03.000So again, we have these people coming out in mainstream media within the last year with these scenarios that have come and gone that have involved false flag terror.
02:17:16.000So I just think in this day and age, people are becoming a little bit too hip to what's going on.
02:17:35.000Hopefully we are reaching that point now in North America.
02:17:39.000If you call a critical mass or whatever you want to.
02:17:43.000Hopefully through, you know, the work that you do and statements made by 9-11 truthers like myself and the many others around the world.
02:17:52.000You know, we have people, a politician in Japanese parliament came out wanting to have another investigation.
02:18:00.000We're having a march in Canada to Ottawa to culminate on September 11th where they're going to present a petition at Parliament Hill for a new 9-11 investigation in Canada.
02:18:14.000So I think, you know, worldwide you are seeing people come around and, you know, waking up to the fact that this was a false flag operation, you know, to have a certain effect on the American public.
02:18:24.000The question now is, you know, are the people who live in America going to be smart enough to look into the right sources of information to kind of emancipate themselves from this media blackout that's going on?
02:18:40.000I think if people, you know, continue to Turn off their TVs, give less credence to mainstream media, corporate media, and instead, you know, read online, read books, read magazines, anything out there that's going to give the true story of 9-11 truth.
02:19:02.000This is what's going to mobilize the population in America so that when another false flag terrorist attack occurs, Whatever it is, whether it's bioterror, whether it's a mini-nuke somewhere, people will see it for what it is and not be railroaded into a certain mindset like they were after 9-11.
02:19:23.000We're talking to Super Bowl champion two-time Mark Stepnoski, five-time pro bowler, and he's, again, going public, not because it's fun, but because it's his duty, and I would venture to say because he just said it, he knows that if we don't expose the tool of false flag, that mechanism, he knows that if we don't expose the tool of false flag, that mechanism, this military-industrial complex is going to keep doing Just like in England, how they hunt pheasants.
02:19:48.000They beat pots and pans, they have beaters who push the birds out on a wedge so the hunters can shoot them when they get driven out.
02:20:01.000They've been caught over and over and they're going to continue to do this if we don't expose it.
02:20:08.000And that's why the courage of now thousands of prominent people that have gone public for 9-11 truth and now all these architects and engineers and businesses is unstoppable.
02:20:19.000We're going to come back and talk about the fraudulent new NIST report with Mark Stepnowski and then we're going to take your phone calls.
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02:25:01.000Speaking out for 9-11 Truth, there's a ballot initiative in New York to get a new investigation going, or expose that, a grand jury.
02:25:07.000There's a lot of different initiatives.
02:25:09.000There's marches going on, events coming up in New York next week that I hope folks go to.
02:25:16.000Let's talk about that ballot initiative first, and then I want to get into the NIST report, Mark.
02:25:22.000Yeah, obviously, since we're coming up on the anniversary of 9-11, there's a lot of activities going around to highlight the fact that the official story is untrue.
02:25:36.000This is a way for, I mean, it's obvious that, like I said earlier, that we're not going to get a proper investigation through government channels.
02:25:45.000But this is a way for the people of New York City to create a new 9-11 commission, an investigation of the events, which would have subpoena power.
02:26:08.000And now these petitions will be submitted to the New York City Clerk and New York City Council.
02:26:17.000With a sufficient amount of signatures, this being above 30,000, they will be able to present this, and then it can become an issue, a topic, on the ballot.
02:26:29.000I believe it would be part of the 2009 ballot for mayor, the election of mayor in New York City.
02:26:37.000Where citizens can vote for themselves, they can make their voices heard that they think it is necessary as citizens of that city, as voters of New York City, to demand a new investigation, one that actually has some teeth.
02:26:58.000We need lots of grand jury-type public investigations, both governmental and non-governmental, to draw this out publicly and continue to expose it.
02:27:07.000Everything is a step, to use a football analogy, for more yards to get a new set of downs towards the touchdown, bringing these criminals to justice.
02:27:16.000And even if we never bring them to justice by sending them to prison, By publicly convicting them in the court of public opinion, and by educating the public about false flag terrorism, it breaks that tool that the black ops continue to use.
02:27:46.000Well, just by signing that petition, just by signing your name on that piece of paper, you are, in effect, saying, look, I don't believe in what the government is telling me.
02:27:55.000I don't believe the lies that I'm being told in corporate media.
02:27:59.000You know, I demand a new investigation.
02:28:02.000This is one way for people to have their voice heard, people who otherwise Might feel powerless.
02:28:09.000There's a lot of people in New York City.
02:28:11.000If a lot of them mobilize, it might be surprising what could actually happen.
02:28:15.000But, you know, I urge listeners of your show who either live in New York City or have family or friends there to let them know about this.
02:28:24.000They can look it up on www.nyc911initiative.org and find out anything they would like to about this movement.
02:28:35.000But I think that You know, right now it's moving along very nicely, and should it succeed in any degree, it'll be a big step forward.
02:29:00.000Look how far we've come from myself, two months before the attack, saying I think they're going to attack the World Trade Center and blame it on their asset bin Laden.
02:29:08.000Because I saw them preparing the public, introducing bin Laden.
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02:33:28.000We're bringing up the NIST report and how they've had to change how physics works.
02:33:43.000And so a lot of scientists and physicists and architects that weren't involved and didn't believe it was an inside job are now looking going, you're saying jet fuel made 2,600-degree pockets of stuff five weeks later?
02:34:07.000Yeah, I mean, this coincides with the Bush administration's technique from day one.
02:34:14.000They have actively sought to discredit science and to really argue with scientific belief.
02:34:22.000You know, it doesn't matter whether it's the EPA, the FDA, whatever it is, you know, there's been active warfare on the part of the Bush administration against science.
02:34:35.000And this is another clear-cut example of that.
02:34:39.000They know marijuana doesn't kill one person a year.
02:34:41.000It's a miracle drug with thousands of patented real things it does for cancer, glaucoma, but they're still SWAT teaming people every day where I live looking for marijuana.
02:34:55.000you present, no matter how authoritative that evidence is, no matter who it comes from, as far as credible scientific or medical establishments, it will just be written off by propaganda.
02:35:09.000You can present any kind of factual evidence you want to support your theory.
02:35:14.000But again, corporate media, the Republican or Democratic Party, they'll just write it off with propaganda.
02:35:22.000But that is starting... I'm sorry, go ahead.
02:35:25.000I'm sorry, but that is what we are seeing right now, which is another, by this NIST report, trying to come out and explain why something that's never happened before did happen, namely three steel buildings collapsing because of a fire in one day.
02:35:39.000They do have to stretch the realms of reality.
02:35:41.000You know, they do have to contradict science and offer an alternative view, which is completely bogus.
02:35:47.000Which is why I'm glad to see that people with, uh, people who are experts, people, you know, whose backgrounds are in this field are coming forward and saying, look, you guys are just straining any credibility you have here to the breaking point.
02:36:24.000Then a couple of them get peer-reviewed by major, major peer-reviewed, I mean, not just side journals, big marquee, you know, Super Bowl-level journals.
02:36:51.000So there we see another example, you know, just like the Office of National Drug Control Policy is part of the executive branch, and they are the ones who constantly spew forth misinformation about the drug war, we have NIST, which is also an executive branch administration, you know, leading the charge about the lies regarding 9-11.
02:37:13.000Well, like you said though, more and more people are tuning out of mainstream media.
02:37:17.000It's exponential, and instead of them reporting some of the truth or trying to act more credible, it seems like they're getting more shrill, more cartoonish, more ridiculous, piling lie on top of lie.
02:37:29.000I don't know what the tactic is there, but it doesn't seem to be working, Mark.
02:37:32.000Well, it reminds me of the old quote about, and I can't remember who said it, but it's just the old quote about truth coming out, you know.
02:37:39.000First, when you are a truth teller, you know, in this age of universal deceit that we live in, where those of us are trying to commit a revolutionary act by telling the truth, You know, it becomes evident that we will be attacked.
02:37:59.000Actually, the first method is to be written off and ridiculed, and that was the case early on after September 11th.
02:38:05.000We were all pigeon-holed as conspiracy theorists and we were out of our minds, so that was the ridicule.
02:38:10.000Then you had the vicious attacks, and now it's becoming obvious that You know, the 9-11 truth movement is based on truth and facts and evidence.
02:38:23.000Yes, and that's... You know, I just want to follow up by, again, with that famous quotation, the third stage of the truth being accepted is that people will accept it.
02:38:32.000So I think now we are in the second stage.
02:38:34.000You know, those first few years we were attacked and vilified.
02:38:40.000Now we are being attacked and vilified.
02:38:43.000Hopefully we are coming close to that third stage where there will be mass acceptance of this truth and people won't be afraid to put aside their cognitive dissonance and step out and accept this new paradigm of reality that we all have to see around us.
02:39:00.000And that's really, I don't blame a lot of people who don't want to look at the facts, because every night when I go to bed, I look at how innocent my children are, I look at how good my wife is, and I just think, God, there are really evil people in this world, and they really are in control, and I've really gotten their face, and man, I've been threatened, and this is dangerous.
02:39:17.000Then I realize, you know, I just can't let the world go on like this.
02:39:20.000I've got to do my job, whether it has an effect or not.
02:39:23.000But the truth is, when good people do get involved, I believe, as Thomas Jefferson said, that we can overturn evil.
02:39:40.000And there's another quote I'm butchering, paraphrasing, but truth goes through three stages.
02:39:46.000First it's laughed at, then it's ridiculed, then it's accepted as universally true.
02:39:52.000And people who said the world was round were laughed at, and now we know it's round, Mark.
02:39:57.000Well, yeah, and just, you know, for me personally, you know, again, I think we should all just do what we can.
02:40:03.000You know, different people have different amounts of time, different resources, be they financial or whatever.
02:40:10.000But I just felt, personally, as an American citizen, it was my duty to speak out.
02:40:15.000You know, I was asked to do a newspaper article for my hometown.
02:40:22.000And it was just one of those deals, where are they now?
02:40:25.000What are they doing now that they're retired?
02:40:27.000And I just, again, I felt compelled to at least let people in Erie, Pennsylvania, my hometown, who read the paper, No, that somebody who came from there doesn't believe in the official story of 9-11 and wholeheartedly believes that they too should seek out the truth for themselves.
02:40:46.000What type of response, I know overwhelmingly it was positive, but what type of negative responses did you get and what was it like with your moral courage to go through that and not recant?
02:40:57.000Well, you know, the reaction overwhelmingly was positive.
02:41:00.000I mean, I don't spend a lot of time in my hometown anymore, and I know that there were people who wrote in letters saying, you know, what's wrong with this guy?
02:41:10.000But like we discussed earlier, now that we are coming up on eight years after the fact, people are coming, I'm sorry, seven years after the fact, people are becoming aware of what actually happened that day.
02:41:23.000You know, the initial shock value of that psychological operation is wearing off.
02:41:28.000People are getting a chance to see what really went on behind the scenes.
02:41:31.000So I didn't really suffer much fallout at all.
02:41:36.000You know, it was just, again, Regardless of how many people might write in, there's always going to be a few, you know, who will just personally attack you.
02:41:44.000I experienced the same thing when I spoke out against marijuana laws.
02:41:47.000You know, you have people saying that you're not a good role model, you know, that you're a proponent of drug use and everything else.
02:41:55.000Yeah, but you go to a football game and there's liquor ads everywhere, which no doubt is bad for you, but then, you know, these guys with a whiskey bottle, how dare you be with that marijuana?
02:42:07.000Yeah, again, people have blinders on with certain respect to the war on drugs, just like they do with 9-11.
02:42:15.000So I just wanted to, again, for people in my hometown who might know who I am or what I stand for, at least they might know enough about me to know that I'm not just some guy spouting off, that I might be a guy who actually does have educated opinions.
02:42:35.000Let's take some calls for Mark Stepnoski.
02:42:37.000Mark, before we do that in the last 15 or 16 minutes, any other points you wanted to add?
02:42:42.000Anything else you wanted to point out?
02:42:43.000I would just like to tell people that they should make a personal commitment in their life to continue to educate themselves on these issues.
02:42:51.000You know, the easiest thing in the world It's just a pigeonhole something and write it off, put a label on it and say, I don't have to look into it any further.
02:42:59.000You know, they'll just categorize it as something they don't want to know and then just move on.
02:44:40.000I mean, we see now in a Dutch newspaper talk of an attack on Iran as imminent.
02:44:48.000I'm so glad to see that you're at the Democratic National Convention, because people seem to think that if we get a Democrat in office, there's going to be big changes.
02:44:56.000But the Democratic Congress has already signed off on a preemptive nuclear attack against Iran.
02:45:03.000I don't know how anybody can expect anything to the contrary should Democrats be in power.
02:45:09.000Yeah, and again, we're not bashing either party, folks.
02:45:11.000The point is that the corporates have taken over everything, and until we recognize that both parties have been taken over, we can never set about fixing the real problem if we're in that controlled paradigm.
02:45:21.000Again, five-time Pro Bowler, two-time Super Bowl champion, Mark Stepnoski is our guest, former Dallas Cowboy, Houston Oiler.
02:45:29.000Let's go ahead and talk to Tim in New York.
02:45:34.000Then we'll go to Adam, Tim, Casey, Victor, and others.
02:46:07.000She's always had lifelong allergies and actually a victim of sexual abuse when she was a child.
02:46:12.000Her mother brought foster kids into the house.
02:46:14.000On July of this year, she finally found out that she had a lot of thyroid problems and a lot of hormone deficiencies causing some memory problems.
02:46:22.000About a month later, her brother came home from where he works in the State Department, coerced her into going to lunch with her.
02:46:46.000So because she was a 9-11 truther, she's been stuck in a mental ward, and we're starting to see this happen like the old Soviet Union.
02:46:53.000I'm going to get your name and number off air, and then we'll have you on as a guest if I can see some documents and confirm this.
02:47:00.000But we have seen calls, it's in the new film Truth Rising, all the major cable channels saying, kill Alex Jones, put them in FEMA camps, they're terrorists, Taser 9-11 truthers, send them to Gitmo, and they're serious.
02:47:14.000Mark Sipnosky, I mean, they're getting scared of us now.
02:47:21.000Yeah, you know, whether it's Geraldo Rivera or Bill Maher or any of these guys who You are in a position where they have a show on corporate media and the only way they're going to continue to maintain their show is to spout the lies of the current administration, you know, the corporate party line.
02:47:44.000Yeah, well, again, you know, it's, uh... I think Sinclair Lewis said, when fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
02:47:54.000Yep, that's what Ron Paul said and got in trouble.
02:49:10.000I think, again, like we saw with Geraldo Rivera and like we saw with Bill Maher, there's going to have to continue, and we are change people who do it everywhere, there has to continue to be a breakthrough into mainstream media of 9-11 truth.
02:49:26.000Again, it's become obvious that we're not going to have a top-down solution to this problem.
02:49:32.000You know, the censorship is coming from top-down.
02:49:55.000What's the term, I'll dip my tongue, where the ball is moved by running, you know, just a foot at a time, a long battle down the whole field?
02:51:22.000Well, what I was thinking was, if you're playing defense, and that's what the 9-11 thing is all about, we're defending ourselves against those.
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02:54:38.000way since i got both final segment march and not market you have a personal website or is there a site you want to plug or something you want to say here at the end
02:55:02.000Well, again, I would just, you know, for those of us in Canada, I would just like again to bring up the march that the 9-11 True Society of Vancouver has orchestrated.
02:55:17.000It's going to culminate in Ottawa on September 15th, I believe, today there in Sudbury and Toronto, Ontario.
02:55:24.000These 9-11 tutors have been traveling across the country to get petitions.
02:55:30.000They're going to march from Montreal to Ottawa and arrive on September 11th.
02:55:36.000With all the signatures that they get nationwide on this petition, and this is for a new 9-11 investigation in Canada, because what people forget is 9-11 was, it was obviously portrayed as an attack against America, but it was a worldwide crime.
02:55:52.000There were citizens, I believe, from over 80 countries in the World Trade Center.
02:55:57.000And it totally freaks out the global controllers when we're out marching, when we don't shut up, when we don't stop.
02:56:41.000You know, be honest with people, have facts to back up your point of view, and I really think that being the case, there's nothing for people to fear.
02:56:49.000Hey, think about Charlie Sheen, especially with his baggage.
02:56:57.000People appreciate someone who's willing to come forward.
02:56:59.000I think as time goes on, people are realizing how sanitized and censored mainstream media is.
02:57:05.000And whether somebody is a 9-11 truther who tells the truth, or a politician who's willing to give up the talking points and just, you know, speak truthfully, people appreciate that because it's so rare.
02:57:18.000Absolutely, that's what matters in this world is conviction and honor and duty and goodness and Mark Sipnoski and many others have got it.
02:57:25.000I just love to be part of this brotherhood, this sisterhood of man, of people that stand up and have courage.
02:57:31.000Real fast, Norman in North Carolina, you've got about 30 seconds.
02:57:35.000Hello gentlemen, thank you for taking my call and thank you for keeping the truth sacred.
02:57:40.000I believe that if the truth can be told so as to be understood that it will be believed And that's what you do so well, Alex, and I'm proud.
02:57:48.000I'm a proud InfoWarrior, working to wake up anyone with a pulse and an attention span.
02:57:52.000And it just, it gives me a true sense of purpose and a real feeling of patriotism.
02:57:57.000And I intuit that we have critical mass, and given that the news report is laughable, it's just a matter of time before we have resolutions.
02:58:05.000God bless you guys, and thank you so much.
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03:01:57.000Well, I don't... How my nuanced or complex?
03:02:01.000Well, I'm trying to say it that way because I haven't had too much time to fully, constantly follow what you're doing, but every few months I see something you've said or done, and it seems diverse.
03:02:09.000I don't want to say contradictory, and so by that I meant you can actually flesh it out for us.
03:02:16.000Well, what's the point that sticks with you?
03:02:20.000You know, again, over the years, I know people's views change, too, and kind of go through changes, and so, I mean, tell us your view on the police state versus terrorism, kind of the whole New World Order, Henry.
03:02:41.000Well, I think it's part and parcel with the Bush administration.
03:02:46.000And I think a lot of it doesn't do anything to combat terrorism domestically or outside of America.
03:02:57.000The fact that the Washington Post had to brief America that Homeland Security finds it okay to detain your electronic media, your laptop or anything, your iPod, when you come into an airport in America, a foreigner or an American citizen, and they can take your laptop or whatever and download the information, distribute the information to all the intelligence agencies at an off-site location, And hold on to that information and your computer or anything else for as long as they feel.
03:03:25.000Enough Europeans complained that finally the Washington Post broke this story.
03:03:30.000A lot of Americans, myself included, did not know that they could do that.
03:03:37.000How taking my laptop away from me is going to stop the anger that is engendered by people in the world when we go into their countries and push them around.
03:03:52.000And so checking my laptop or reading my email Or being able to tap my phones easily.
03:04:01.000I don't know what that is, how that's going to help ease down terror in Saudi Arabia or, you know, anger felt in Egypt or Morocco.
03:04:10.000Well, we know it isn't, but it's going to allow the military-industrial complex to train the American people.
03:04:14.000They have no liberties or freedoms and condition us to line up and put our hands up and have no Fourth Amendment.
03:04:20.000And that's too bad, because a lot of Americans will start to think The thing I really hate is when someone says, well, I've got nothing to hide.
03:04:48.000And again, you know, this is just, if you're in the big business, If you really need the rails greased to get things going, and you don't want government in the way of pushing things through, and one of the ways you kind of clear the path is to scare the living hell out of people.
03:05:06.000And when the going gets rough, the average get conservative, and that's the story of America.
03:05:10.000And a lot of Americans who hate this country or can't stand that country, they get their information from Sean Hannity, yet they can't find All right, Henry Rollins, stay there.
03:06:46.000Some US investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the US.
03:06:50.000terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the united states some u_s_ investigators believe that there is really is again very much engaged in spying in and on the u_s_ i'm aware that uh...
03:07:02.000some israeli citizens have been detained lodges connections to the c_i_a_ hijackers ties to the f_b_i_ the saudi arabian connection the israeli intelligence network warnings and war games the shadow government and much much more Fabled enemies.
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03:09:30.000We were getting into His views on the whole police state and what's happening, and we were going over the fact that having you line up and have them kidnap your laptop without a warrant, that's all part of setting a precedent that there is no Bill of Rights or Constitution and using the threat of terrorism as a pretext.
03:09:46.000Henry, what do you think about government-sponsored terrorism like Gulf of Tonkin, or the Reichstag, or the USS Liberty, or the Maine Operation Gladio, Operation Cyclone, I mean, I'm not defending the Soviets, but it's been now declassified that the U.S.
03:10:03.000actually funded the Muslims, Mujahideen, to attack the Russians first to get them to come into Afghanistan.
03:10:08.000Zbigniew Brzezinski just published a book last year bragging about that.
03:10:12.000I mean, your take basically on that whole angle of society.
03:10:19.000I think it's basically all the same thing.
03:10:45.000We're the largest seller of arms in the world.
03:10:48.000And now that the thing in Iraq has the threat of cooling down in 2011, the powers that be are reheating the Cold War so we can just keep fighting somebody.
03:11:02.000And they have such contempt for the American people that they tell us on the news that Russia snuck attack Georgia when it's the complete opposite.
03:12:59.000And if you get in the way of business, You know, Paul Mullivan and other companies pull the rats, and Roger Ailes isn't going to have that, Rupert Murdoch isn't going to have that, and even the sissies over at CNN aren't going to have that.
03:13:12.000So killing is our business, and business is good, and would you say the U.S.
03:14:18.000Henry, fire out some of the websites people to visit, because we're on in places like Austin, Texas, and places like Buffalo, New York, and St.
03:15:38.000I mean, everyone likes to read books, and I'm a fairly voracious reader, but... Well, that's the problem.
03:15:43.000Everybody actually doesn't, as you know.
03:15:44.000Well, it's true, but, you know, I think people who listen to your show, or you, you know, you want to know if you pack a book open and you read it.
03:15:51.000Yeah, a lot of Americans don't read, and they don't read enough, and hopefully that changes.
03:15:57.000Well, the point is, I try and read a lot, and never have I had a book have the same impact on me.
03:16:06.000Like, a book about a country is never as relevant as my trip to that country.
03:16:09.000And so basically, knowledge without mileage is a bunch of bull to me.
03:16:26.000And so I kind of like the Indiana Jones version of things, where you just kind of get in there and, you know, you walk through it and you see what happens.
03:16:33.000And I do that in Central Asia, the Middle East, Southeast Asia, on my own every year.
03:16:41.000So, how many countries do you visit a year on average?
03:16:54.000Scandinavia, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and then the aforementioned countries.
03:17:00.000Where do you see our future going in this nation?
03:17:02.000I see it as an empire teetering on the brink of collapse, the dollar devalued, both parties incredibly decadent and delusional, the lies have never been more blatant.
03:17:58.000We don't want to play with you anymore.
03:18:01.000Maybe it'll take the whole world convening some kind of I don't know, but I do think that there's enough positive, progressive people in America who are into things like the reality of global warming, and the fact that we can pursue alternative fuel sources, that we don't have to drill ourselves out of every possible energy shortage.
03:18:25.000And I think that will eventually prevail, because there will be no real way to sustain These fake wars.
03:18:34.000I mean, the war in Iraq, the invasion and occupation of Iraq is quite unsustainable.
03:18:38.000There's just not the money or the manpower.
03:18:40.000I mean, I don't know where they're going to grow these people.
03:18:42.000But that shows the delusional aspect in Vietnam, one terror, World War II, one terror.
03:18:47.000There's guys starting their fifth terror, and they're completely, you know, 18 times the record suicides previous, like you said.
03:18:55.000It's not just that it's unsustainable.
03:18:56.000It seems like the elite have literally... I mean, we had evil elites before, but they were somewhat realist.
03:19:01.000It seems there's a delusion or a megalomania.
03:19:05.000Yeah, well, I think you have a handful of crazy people.
03:19:10.000You know, those who used to get laughed at in D.C.
03:19:13.000Like, you know, the eight neoconservatives from back years ago.
03:19:21.000well all of those guys and and you know they waited on the sidelines who a lot of the bush administration certainly through the clinton administration and they got their game together like project for new american century and all that they did not sleep they planned very well trembling maniac i'm stealing that it's all yours and and and and and and and they had their moment they jumped in and here we are with no money uh...
03:19:46.000they they have nothing but contempt And our name is destroyed!
03:19:50.000Our name is destroyed and Karl Rove tells the New York Times, I control reality and we're history's actors and you just watch us.
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03:24:41.000My point is that you're somebody who loves liberty and freedom, You're speaking out against censorship of the web.
03:24:49.000I'd like you to briefly talk about that before you leave us.
03:24:51.000But then you talk about, you know, these hillbillies that want to attack a country but can't find it on a map and they want to Well, I think you should have a gun in your house if you want to defend your family.
03:25:01.000I don't think any family, you or me, needs an assault weapon.
03:25:03.000We have an armed population, and we have a tyrannical government as a check and a balance against them.
03:25:09.000Well, I think you should have a gun in your house if you want to defend your family.
03:25:14.000I don't think any family, you or me, needs an assault weapon.
03:25:18.000If I was a policeman in your town, and I know I'm going up against people with bullets that can go through my door, through my body and through the body of my partner, and I am not given ceramic-plated body armor, which stops an AK-47 round.
03:25:34.000I've got a real problem with that, and I don't think any citizen What are you going to shoot with a gun?
03:26:21.000Or, you know, take the rifle out of anyone's cold, dead hand.
03:26:24.000Well, I mean, I see your point there, but here's another issue.
03:26:27.000The sun has no spots on it, it's cooling down, the earth goes up and down in temperature.
03:26:32.000I have no doubt we need cleaner fuels, that the oil companies are corrupt, but just to then say, well, we need a global tax to stop global warming, I've got a lot of issues with that.
03:26:44.000I mean, when I go on tour now, I pay money to compensate for the carbon footprint my bus leaves.
03:26:53.000And so, when I take my tour bus out on the road, I'm doing damage.
03:26:58.000And so I compensate for that by, you know, sending money to this outfit my road manager hooked me up with, and we're going to be... Yeah, buying credits.
03:27:06.000Well, I mean, the central banks have said they want us to buy carbon credits from them, and it's just a global tax, Henry.
03:27:11.000I'm not saying... I know you want to do good and want to reduce the fuel you're using, and I'm all for that.
03:27:46.000Malthus said that we're all going to die of starvation.
03:27:49.000And the Industrial Revolution momentarily proved him to be wrong.
03:27:54.000And now, as soon as you give more people more food, they breed more.
03:27:58.000There's a lot going on with food systems in the world, and the unsustainability of soils, and the dangerousness of artificially produced nitrogen.
03:28:07.000And the fact that we're breeding these animals so hard and so fast that, you know, they're mutating, and you're eating strange meat, and, you know, your E. coli is going zoonotic more than... Oh, I agree.
03:28:19.000I mean, now they make... Clone beef is in the population.
03:28:25.000I mean, you're reading a book, and now reading a book is evil?
03:28:29.000I was reading Jihad by Ahmed Rashid and the man sitting next to me called me in to Homeland Security and I was deemed a person of interest for reading a New York Times bestseller put out by the Yale University Press.
03:28:46.000It's an interesting time we're living in.
03:28:48.000I just bought that guy's new book too, Descent Into Chaos I think it's called.
03:28:57.000Give us a one minute rant on how they're trying to shut down the free web.
03:29:01.000Well, I think they're trying to regulate web speeds and accessibility.
03:29:06.000I think the short of it is that the man is afraid of you having access to information, lest you start questioning his actions or maybe learning history so you're doomed not to repeat it.
03:29:17.000And so I think that the net is wildly informative and they don't want that.
03:29:21.000They want you to believe the bumper sticker like Boycott France or anything that comes from the mouth of Rover.
03:29:26.000Or, you know, any of these Fox bastards.
03:29:29.000And so it's just too much freedom for them to deal with.
03:29:32.000Well, I agree, and I've seen some of the rants you've done where you break down the internet, too, and how they're trying to regulate.
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03:31:54.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
03:32:00.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
03:32:04.000In Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers' ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
03:33:53.000He goes, yeah, my favorite's Terror Storm.
03:33:58.000He goes, yeah, I've seen the first Terror Storm, then I got some of your other videos, and then a girlfriend of mine, a friend of mine in Austin gave me the second edition, and I really like that one.
03:34:09.000And the phone was ringing, he had to go to another radio interview, so next time we get Rollins on, we'll get a plug, an endorsement of my videos from him on air.
03:35:38.000It's infuriating that we have all these great tapes and they just go stale.
03:35:42.000So you're like, get them up, get them up, get them up.
03:35:44.000And all the cool people we met and all the interesting things they said.
03:35:47.000And then on top of it, this whole Malkin incident and how they just lie and say that you said things like, kill Michelle Malkin, which is utterly ridiculous, completely untrue.
03:35:57.000And we proved it now with angle after angle.
03:36:00.000And Malkin with her internment camps, I couldn't believe how many times I've said that.
03:37:37.000We don't know his name, but we can see him from multiple video angles.
03:37:41.000The real hoax is that Michelle Malkin is supposed to be this cute little woman, and, you know, she's always preaching not to go off of, you know, diversity and not to judge You know, based on race and stuff.
03:37:55.000Well, this crowd is going off the fact she's a woman, yet she's pitching these horrible ideas of internment camp, defending murder of puppies, when nobody cares about dead Iraqi children, dead Iraqi adults.
03:38:08.000She's saying FEMA camps are good, torture's good, makes jokes about it.
03:38:12.000And that's not just something you shouted at her in the crowd, as though free speech wasn't your right, as though you're not supposed to confront horrible, monstrous ideas.
03:38:19.000But on YouTube, there's just endless clips, hours and hours of her pitching her book, The Case for Internment, and paralleling it with the Japanese internment.
03:38:30.000And now arresting whole groups of Americans, whole races, whole religions.
03:38:34.000Criticize the government, go to a camp, and then I'm not supposed to say, I don't like you pushing me to go in a camp when it's clearly a talking point?
03:41:07.000So, so, so, tell us what we'll see on this video.
03:41:10.000Uh, well, we did our best to compile all our video angles as well as some of the YouTube angles, uh, so you can really see what's going on, who's shouting what.
03:41:18.000Uh, you can see Alex comes up, you know, he's, he's, uh, challenging her ideas, but he's using an even tone.
03:41:29.000Because I don't get in people's space when I'm arguing with them.
03:41:31.000Yeah, and you know, the thing about editing is you watch these moments, moment by moment.
03:41:35.000And the moment she decides to walk away and end the friendly conversations, when you call out Cheney and his terror thing, Cheney's, uh, government-sponsored terror.
03:41:44.000Yeah, I bring up, it just came out that Cheney wanted to stage terror, and it was like I'd shown a cross to a vampire.
03:41:49.000I notice nobody wants to talk about that.
03:41:50.000Oh, they don't want to talk about that, no.
03:41:52.0009-11 Truth is, uh, you know, it's cuckoo stuff, but You know, Cheney having meetings about shooting Navy SEALs to start a war with Iran, that's, you know...
03:42:20.000She puts her chin up, closes her eyes like it was mind control, and turns.
03:42:25.000That was actually the moment she leaves.
03:42:27.000That's also the moment that Mr. Pajamas steps up and starts becoming the bodyguard.
03:42:33.000I found out that they had never met before, but they have, you know, friendly blogs.
03:42:37.000Yeah, there was a whole constellation, or pilot fish, following the, you know, the main wart.
03:42:44.000And then you had some local blogs who were affiliated with the guys dressed up like jesters who ran up, hey, we're with Alex Jones, and later are yelling, F Alex Jones, and then are friends with Malcolm's people.
03:42:55.000What's the whole canard of, was it a...
03:42:57.000A thought-out stage conspiracy of six people or nine people.
03:43:02.000I don't think any of this was planned.
03:43:03.000It's just that they're disingenuous, won't take free speech.
03:43:06.000Well, it was her supporters, and they did stand over me screaming, Mr. Kilmichael Malcolm.
03:43:22.000So, so that's the point is that, is he, first I said kill Michelle Malkin, now I've proven I didn't say it, but now it will prove they're not with you.
03:43:30.000Yeah, first it's Alex Jones is your buddy, then it's kill Michelle Malkin, then it's Alex Jones is a corporate stooge, then it's F Alex Jones.
03:43:40.000I mean, these guys are... And then as they walked off, they went, F you, we punked you, we got you.
03:43:46.000That's the missing... I still don't know.
03:43:49.000uh... i was told by some of the other locals that they are allied neocon bloggers uh... who are allied with little green footballs looking at the left pajamas media and certainly that's true of the photographer he goes by the name uh... and he's the guy who sees them say killer he goes to cops and says Alex Jones is saying and he was following us again the next day looking at the left dot com yeah because he has when we were photographing him running to the police he has pictures of us running after him and
03:44:18.000We were just trying to find out why he's following us and why he's telling lies.
03:44:39.000They thought they were gonna go and make fun of a leftist protest that really stood for nothing.
03:44:43.000But see, it turns out, the day before, it looks like it's the same green shirt guys, but in different shirts, starting the F.U.
03:44:50.000Fox they put on TV, and then Malcolm reported she'd been attacked before, and then they screamed, kill, kill.
03:44:55.000So it looks like Whether she knows it, she's got protectors that go around with her screaming, kill, kill, so they can then say that in a meeting.
03:45:03.000Yeah, just stage provocations as a way of life, basically.
03:45:52.000But it's up to you, ladies and gentlemen.
03:45:54.000Will you get the video and send it to every neocon?
03:45:58.000By the way, when people start calling WBAP about this Mark Davis, he is still going on air saying, I edited video and then I did say killer.
03:46:06.000And folks, I do not want to spend your money showing them.
03:46:08.000I want to make new TV shows, radio shows, get big guests for you, break news.
03:46:15.000It's easy to sound tough and say, I'll sue, I'll sue.
03:46:17.000I mean, I've sued people four times and won every time.
03:46:33.000I mean, this is just trashy, evil people, folks.
03:46:35.000And they're so used to an audience they can lie to and deceive and just get away with all of it.
03:46:40.000They lay revel in how stupid the general public is, Aaron.
03:46:45.000it's really arrogant because we have him on video these guys in the green shirt and his buddy saying kill michelle malkin while you're trying to have a conversation with malkin about her internment camps it's just it's outrageous now you've done a masterful job uh these are not just our cameras other people's youtube cameras they're i mean we are showing you in the next few days if you get some rest we'll do a part two is There's so much you couldn't put it all in ten minutes.
03:47:09.000We want to keep it down to one bite of ten minutes.
03:47:12.000But there's a bunch of stuff going up for members.
03:47:14.000The Tom Morello interview, the interview with Jerome Corsi, really powerful stuff at the DNC, Cindy Sheehan.
03:47:24.000A bunch of other exclusives for Prison Planet.
03:47:27.000TV members, don't forget the new film Fabled Enemies is out.
03:47:30.000And I've noticed since we crossed this line with Fabled Enemies, to really criticize the intelligence agencies that were involved, I'm noticing the heat is just, it's like somebody flipped a switch.
03:47:40.000Well, all these bloggers seem to work for the same people as well.
03:47:43.000Yeah, well, it's not going to work, folks.
03:47:46.000Every time we get attacked, we only get bigger.
03:49:55.000It's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
03:49:59.000But the good news is Liberal, conservative, libertarian, every big wig I talk to, former German defense ministers, former Italian presidents, members of the Japanese government, Hollywood people.
03:50:12.000It doesn't matter who it is I run into.
03:50:14.000Rage Against the Machine, you know, mainline neighbors down the street, people at church, they all know the government's criminal and out of control, and the lies and fraud you've been selling aren't working anymore.
03:50:29.000By the way, this video also gets into Her past statements.
03:50:33.000She's always saying, did you read my book?
03:50:50.000I mean, I normally don't judge a book by its cover, but didn't she just seem troll-like and demon-like and hateful?
03:50:55.000I mean, she was a really disgusting person.
03:50:58.000And she had a certain look on her face.
03:51:01.000And I mean, she thought that arrogant hate of us and dismissing us like we were just grovel and quail, like shrinking violets, you know, at her not liking us.
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03:57:43.000I'll tell you what was inspirational, Richard, was the fact that Jesse Ventura wouldn't shut up and talk about 9-11.
03:57:52.000You know, I made a comment right after his speech that Don Wheat earlier gave a very fine speech, but the most powerful moving speech was given by Jesse Ventura.
03:58:02.000That's right, because we all know that 80% of people there are 9-11 troopers anyway, so why should we be muzzled, huh?
03:58:41.000All of this is about growing the Movement of Liberty, waking people up, and I'm just so glad that Ron Paul was able to make it with Carol in such dire straits.
03:58:49.000We're going to come back in about 60 seconds for five more minutes with Richard Reeves and George Butler.
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03:59:00.000So we'll talk to them when we get back for five more minutes.
03:59:03.000Then I've got an expert joining us from Germany about the situation between the United States and Russia.