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00:08:34.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
00:09:07.000And our guest is Alan Watt of CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
00:09:12.000Again, for the next hour and 51 minutes now.
00:09:16.000I know that we have Don in Costa Rica, Jimmy in Kentucky, Dustin and others holding over from the last hour.
00:09:22.000But Alan can speak to any subjects you want to call in about.
00:09:24.000If you want to talk to Alan Watt, it's 1-800-259-9231.
00:09:26.000I have a lot of questions I want to ask Alan.
00:09:30.000I want to have discussions with him and try to bring both of our knowledge of the New World Order and all of our knowledge together to a higher level.
00:09:37.000Because to defeat the enemy, you have to know who they are and what their agenda is.
00:09:41.000But we will start going to your calls in T-minus 20 minutes when we come out of the bottom of the hour break.
00:09:47.000We're going to get to everybody who is patiently holding.
00:09:51.000But, Alan, last hour I had a caller call in, Mike from California, saying, well, they're saying they plan to kill 80% of us.
00:10:01.000And I was explaining to him that it's incremental.
00:10:03.000First, they've got to socialize us, get us under government control, being regulated, being tracked, being traced, in government schools, where they always, you know, have things more far advanced than they are for the adults.
00:10:17.000This is all part of, like programming, bringing in the new model, you know, flushing out the old info, putting in the new, reducing the language, semantically reducing the language, Drugging, poisoning, sterilizing the population.
00:10:34.000But out of the gates, I wanted to ask you, because I've seen a lot of this in their Club of Rome planning, UN planning, biological diversity assessments.
00:10:46.000In the university-level documents they're putting out, what the RAND Corporation is saying, what the British Ministry of Defense said last year that I know you covered extensively, as we did here, where they admit that there's a global elite, they're waging war against the individual, that they're putting in robotic aircraft so they can replace humans, even refusing to say nerve gas large cities.
00:11:07.000So can you walk through how, from the pieces we have, and I know you've researched the same stuff I have and even more in some cases because I hear you, I read you, I know it's all on target because it's from the enemy's own manual.
00:11:19.000So for listeners, this is not our opinion here.
00:11:23.000They explain a lot of it, but then you have to, it's all compartmentalized and partitioned, you have to put it all together.
00:11:30.000And they're not clear on time frames, but they want to use global war, global famine, controlled bioweapons releases, to train us with each terror attack, each bioweapons release, being bigger, to live in a more and more controlled society in the name of keeping us safe, to get us finally in that totally controlled technological enslavement grid.
00:11:51.000Yes, well, as far as bringing the population down, it's already happening.
00:11:57.000weapons they have and they say they're racing to do this to save the earth.
00:12:02.000So can you break down how you see that unfolding and where you see it going, Alan Watt?
00:12:07.000Yes, well, as far as bringing the population down, it's already happening.
00:12:11.000It's been happening for 50 years and their own statistics prove it.
00:12:16.000I've read reports this last week or so from official reports on the sterilization of males The CBC television, Canada, that's the BBC version of the Canadians, came out with a documentary called The Disappearing Male, where we're now at 85% or more sterile.
00:12:35.000Now the West is dying from Russia to Japan to the United States.
00:12:39.000First world is dying at about 3-4% a year, but to be clear, you mean they've slowed down the global growth?
00:12:46.000Oh, absolutely, and there's more girls being born than boys now because the boys have been attacked in the womb by bisphenol A and phthalates, which literally alter the biological makeup of the male.
00:12:59.000It attacks his endocrine system at the age of seven weeks as a fetus.
00:13:03.000And we're seeing them today, the feminine males.
00:13:07.000They're much slimmer, they have no shoulders.
00:13:11.000Let's not glaze over that, and this is again, main government documents, CBC broadcast, what Alan and I have already covered, but there it was, codified, the baby boys are dying in the womb, en masse, being targeted, if they make it out, I don't want to even say they're feminine, they're an emasculated male, whose literal glands do not develop.
00:13:34.000Yeah, and also on that same documentary, They said that 10 years ago they could take sperm samples from young healthy males in college around the age of 18 and they had 60 million The new normal is 10 million per milliliter.
00:14:17.000They've been studying this for 50 years, and it's only now they're releasing what they've always known for the last 50 years.
00:14:24.000And you have to go back 50 years to the writings of Charles Dalton Darwin, who came up with his book, The Next Million Years, where he outlines, on behalf of the elites, the different techniques of doing this very thing, sterilizing the population, primarily targeting the males, And reducing them drastically.
00:14:52.000And the big mainstream media make no big deal about it.
00:14:54.000Explain that, because you do that very well.
00:14:56.000I mean, they state it's silent weapons for quiet wars.
00:15:00.000They slowly turn up the ambient chemicals.
00:15:03.000The frequency pollution, what's in the water, the food, so that we slowly get used to the neighbors, the kids dying of cancer, the old people dying early.
00:15:12.000We slowly get used to everybody not being able to have babies on the block, except for the new third world populations that come in that haven't been under the chemicals.
00:15:19.000But then you take third world groups that have been here a generation, they're just as sterilized as blacks and whites.
00:15:25.000I mean, we're under hardcore attack right now.
00:15:43.000And he taught at a university in New York for a while.
00:15:49.000They work for the United Nations, and he wrote about this necessity as well of vastly reducing the population.
00:15:55.000They're using the same techniques, in fact, that they've been using on animals and basically animal management and the forestry commissions.
00:16:03.000They target primarily the males to bring their population down drastically.
00:16:26.000We're seeing all the other side effects.
00:16:29.000As the sperm count drops and the endocrine system is severely attacked in young men, their IQ level is dropping as well, which also explains why they can't catch on to the big picture of what's happening around them.
00:16:43.000They literally don't have the ability to see what's happening.
00:16:47.000And that again ties in with the big planning committees who discussed this with Charles Galton Darwin, he didn't do this on his own, he spoke on behalf of the big think tanks and foundations that worked on behalf of the British elite at the time.
00:17:03.000And, uh, they talked about the necessity for dumbing down the people, especially the male, because the male was their main target.
00:17:10.000They said that the men will never, ever accept this new world order.
00:17:15.000This regimented system from birth to death.
00:17:18.000And that's why they project and riddle in the boys.
00:17:21.000That's why they target them for a fist fight.
00:17:22.000They go to jail now instead of doing, you know, being allowed to do their normal male activities.
00:17:28.000I mean, that'd be like arresting a baby pronghorn.
00:17:31.000You know, a juvenile pronghorn for, you know, for challenging other males out on the grassy plains of New Mexico.
00:17:39.000All normal human activity is made criminal.
00:19:01.000Well, what's interesting too, one of the main chemicals that is a synthetic hormone The very things that Charles Galton Darwin was talking about and advocated was bisphenol A. Now bisphenol A was understood, it was discovered in the 1800s and in the 1930s the chemical companies in the US
00:19:23.000Had done extensive experimentation with it, and they found that it was an endocrine disruptor that literally would attack male growth in the womb.
00:19:33.000So, what did it do with this bisphenol A?
00:19:35.000They make it mandatory to use it to sterilize all babies' bottles.
00:19:39.000That's right, there's hundreds of types of plastic, but they find this one type of sterilizing rats and guinea pigs, and so they make sure there's universal adoption of that.
00:19:51.000And then, of course, they put it into the bottles themselves, and with heat, it leaches very quickly from the plastic feeding bottles for babies, and it's in the little teats they use, too, the rubber teats.
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00:25:36.000You hit your target in the womb, preferably, if you want to stop major natural changes from occurring.
00:25:41.000You get in there first, and you cause abnormal changes.
00:25:45.000We've been under attack from so many areas, including the inoculations.
00:25:48.000Now Bertrand Russell, Lord Bertrand Russell, another member of MI5, who is now declassified again, along with Koestler, and many other big writers of their time, who led big international meetings, He said himself that they'd also use the needle to make people very placid.
00:26:07.000Those are his words in one of his books.
00:26:09.000And they have been using inoculations.
00:26:11.000They train the public who are taught to trust their masters and have trained them that everything they pump into your body is for your own good.
00:26:29.000Yes, and once again, these inoculations literally have targeted the immune system of people.
00:26:37.000There's hardly a person in the Western world with an intact immune system.
00:26:42.000I thought about this years ago when I looked at the fads that the medical sciences have gone through, and they do go through these strange fads.
00:26:51.000And back in the 50s, at the same time as all this was mandated to go into effect, with the food and so on, they also started tonsillectomies and removing adenoids.
00:27:02.000As a matter of course, with all children in Europe around the age of 4 or 5, it was the done thing to do, and every mother brought in their child and they'd become their adenoids and their tonsils.
00:27:41.000And not only that, what really staggers the mind too, I call this the Matrix, because you swallow the world that's being presented to you.
00:27:48.000And everything in it is pretty well false, or a deception, or a cover.
00:27:53.000Now, again, the CBC in Canada did an incredible documentary a few years ago called Phagocytes.
00:28:02.000Now, phagocytes are viruses which are man-made, which can attack and destroy other viruses, any other viruses programmed, literally programmed to destroy, or bacteria.
00:28:15.000And the Russians, the Soviet system, were using them from 1917 onwards, and all through the period up until the 90s, the mid-90s, the West, they knew about this, of course, in intelligence agencies, they knew about this in the military-industrial complex.
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00:28:45.000Because special viruses can be programmed like computers from 1917 and they did not need antibiotics in Russia.
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00:36:28.000Alan, I said I was particularly having you on today, and we appreciate your time, to take calls so we can go in different directions than you or I would normally focus on.
00:36:40.000I'm, you know, pretty much on the same page with you and your research, because we just go to their own source documents with the chemical dumbing down, the biological attacks, What they're setting up, but I want to go to the calls, and we've been interrupted by a few breaks, and my seconding everything you're saying, but I can't help myself, it's all so accurate.
00:36:59.000I want listeners to know this isn't a joke.
00:37:13.000But going from the up close view to the wider view, just in a general gestalt, what their time frame is, what the world's going to look like, what their endgame is, Alan Watt from CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
00:37:29.000Yeah, they want to manage the takedown of society, and at the same time, they want a unified world to come out of at the very end with the survivors.
00:37:40.000with a new system, a standardized world system, where they can literally replace all the old types with better, genetically enhanced types that'll serve the elite better.
00:37:51.000Now, we know that the elite themselves are not going to dumb themselves down Charles Galton Darwin was very explicit about that in his writing, so was Arthur Kessler.
00:38:01.000He said we, the elite, must retain our survival capabilities because we will be guiding planet Earth, but the rest of the people will not need theirs because the state will be making all the decisions for them.
00:38:13.000So that's what they want to come out at the very, very end.
00:38:15.000A placid, compliant, genetically enhanced, more productive species, but a far reduced, more efficient population.
00:38:23.000And when you tie that in with the Department of Defense's think tank study for NATO, which was echoed by the U.S.
00:38:30.000military's one, it's like they're identical, they see nothing but riots starting around 2010-12.
00:38:37.000To do with food and various other things, necessities really, and escalating for 30 years.
00:38:43.000Now that ties in with the timelines that the United Nations has talked about for their new global society with the reduced population.
00:38:51.000They say in their own documents now there'll be a vastly reduced population by the year 2030, 2035.
00:38:57.000So we're looking at a long-term business plan that's going to reduce population During that time, they will be putting big money into genetic enhancing of specific people.
00:39:12.000To serve them better new strains, and at the end, as the old man dies off, they'll bring in the new type.
00:39:18.000In fact, the old man will be unable to even procreate and reproduce.
00:39:21.000So they'll bring in the new type, and this will be the reason for bringing in the new type.
00:39:55.000And they do expect, like Brzezinski says, they expect the media to do the reasoning for them.
00:40:00.000And unfortunately for most folk, that has happened.
00:40:03.000And that's why we see all the pre-programming.
00:40:06.000I mean, the The Pentagon back in 2000, as you know, said we'll use Hollywood, we'll use movies, we'll use security, we'll use the call for Alzheimer's patients, we will use the fad-driven PR.
00:40:20.000Peer pressure system, public relations system, to sell the public on taking microchips.
00:40:28.000And they talk in all these government white papers and documents.
00:40:32.000I think I'm going to play that clip later, Dr. Coffman talking about it, from the document about how most people don't even have their own thoughts, how we're pathetic slaves.
00:40:42.000I mean, they're really doing this to you.
00:40:45.000I just feel so sorry for the yuppies and people who are so arrogant and so into themselves being powerful.
00:40:50.000They've been trained to laugh at us, and then they wonder why their son, you know, is sterile, or why they are sterile, or why they're so unhappy, or why their wife has breast cancer at 40.
00:41:02.000And it's all engineered, and they just sit there dying, still loving the line.
00:41:08.000The trick was, and it's been written about too, is to make a generation believe that they were on the cutting edge, that no other society has ever had before in history, and that all information is out there, and it's all true, and therefore, in other words, there's nothing you can tell them.
00:41:27.000They truly believe Everything that we've been told.
00:41:29.000An arrogance, a haughtiness, a self-false satisfiedness that they're members of the elite.
00:41:42.000So, I mean, it's got to be tens of thousands, more than tens of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands.
00:41:47.000And they always tell the town or city, even though they may have been there 15 times over the years, You are the first city to have this drill.
00:43:24.000And I say to them, I say, well, don't forget there are going to be central computers to program that chip, which means you're not going to be in control of your own mind anymore.
00:43:48.000But in a war, you've got to Well, the good news is there are more people than ever that do want to hear, that do want to know, and it's so three-dimensional, and even four-dimensional, how it's all interlocked, and after decades of study you can get a map of it in your own mind, you can articulate it, but still
00:44:19.000It's so hard to articulate the subtleties to people.
00:44:21.000The globalists in their own documents articulate it, and try to articulate it.
00:44:26.000And because the public can't see it as one-dimensional or two-dimensional, they'll just throw it out of hand, saying, that's too complicated for anyone to run, when it is being run, and they say they're running it.
00:44:38.000They say, and that's the key to the term they're using, of governance.
00:44:42.000You see, the new system that's already here, it's been here for a long time, is a system that, to the public, appears to be something called democracy.
00:44:52.000In reality, you have a powerful government run by foundations which, in turn, are a front for the ancient establishment, the very wealthy rich establishment.
00:45:03.000They fund the non-governmental organizations that appear to speak on behalf of the public.
00:45:09.000In reality, they're speaking on behalf of the very foundations that fund them.
00:45:13.000That's the new type of governance they're talking about.
00:45:21.000And in the Soviet Union, they had NGO groups with their leaders appointed from the Politburo.
00:45:29.000We have the exact same system here as they merged the two systems together.
00:45:33.000That came out from the Ford Foundation during the Reeves Commission.
00:45:38.000And with Norman Dodds, the senator, they said that they were blending the Soviet system seamlessly with that of the West.
00:45:46.000The Club of Rome said they favored the collective system more than any other system because it's easier to control the people.
00:45:54.000So it is here, and they're using the Sovietized system with the NGOs, and governance literally means That those groups with the power and the voice, who get the voice, and the media is too happy to listen to them, they are the new type of government.
00:46:09.000This is the new Soviet that has been brought in.
00:46:12.000If you don't belong to a big group, you have no voice whatsoever, and these big, well-funded NGOs... And they call them stakeholders.
00:46:18.000The individual has no voice, but all these subgroups, who then have heads, who are globalists, Who speak for them and really control them, they are stakeholders.
00:46:30.000And we see all this nomenclature now coming in and replacing everything.
00:46:37.000Alan, I want to go to calls here, but just in closing before we do that, the plan, the official UN documents, as you know, and government documents say they want to reduce this by 80%.
00:46:49.000And everything we've seen up till now is just testing the soft kill weapons, testing how to sell the public, how to not have the public notice that people are dying all around them, uh, you know, how to try to cook the numbers and spend things.
00:47:02.000But we know there's been hot kill going on in Iraq, hot kill in Serbia, Afghanistan, Africa, Latin America, where, you know, large portions of populations are being killed, 10, 20, 30, 40 percent in some cases.
00:47:13.000The hot killing, the fast killing in the West, um, When are they going to start launching those?
00:47:22.000I think fairly shortly they have big plans to standardize the world quickly.
00:47:27.000What they're doing, and that's exactly what they're doing, they're eradicating all older cultures that haven't gone along and accepted this very vague term of democracy.
00:47:36.000They haven't accepted World Bank running their system.
00:47:40.000They haven't accepted basically the British style parliamentary system.
00:47:45.000Because this whole world system was born in London, England.
00:47:52.000John Dee wrote about the creation of a world empire based on the British system.
00:47:56.000And it's now come out that the Crown, MI5 and MI6 run the whole Parliament, spy on it.
00:48:02.000They kill any member or set them up against a line.
00:48:05.000It is totally ceremonial, just like the Congress.
00:48:08.000Yes, and after World War II, there were big talks at the United Nations and wanted to set it up that those colonial countries would not be pulled out of Britain until they had set up in those countries a mini British type system of government.
00:48:29.000And they wrote hundreds of books from Quigley's to others bragging about the system, but you go to Wikipedia or to the mainline Encyclopedia Britannica, and they say the New World Order doesn't exist!
00:48:38.000Doesn't matter if it's taught at Princeton and Harvard and Oxford and they admit the system of world governance through the shadow roundtables, they will just still laugh at us and say it doesn't exist!
00:48:49.000That's right, even though the historian for the Council on Foreign Relations, which is part of the Parliamentary Government, Carol Quigley himself, wrote his big book on it, The Anglo-American Establishment and Tragedy and Hope, and he outlines in there their whole agenda.
00:49:27.000Another odd thing, too, was back in the 90s... I don't know if it... I think it's the same in the U.S., but politicians in Canada and the British Commonwealth countries They made a law to treat the politicians and their families in special military hospitals.
00:49:44.000And I thought at the time, well, what's all this about?
00:49:46.000Aren't the hospitals that we have good enough for them?
00:49:50.000And I realized, too, what it is, is all these coming plagues that are scheduled to come out, they do have treatments for them.
00:49:57.000They do have the real antidotes to them.
00:50:00.000And I think they've been giving the politicians and the families these particular antidotes.
00:50:04.000And so in other words, they've got the case.
00:50:29.000And a lot of you listening will continue to laugh.
00:50:34.000God forbid, as you're burying your children, your wife, your husband, from what your masters are going to do to you, maybe then you'll fight back.
00:50:42.000Then you'll be facing the drone aircraft and the Swords and the brainwashed chip troops, but we can still get into their deep underground bases, even after this happens, and probably beat them.
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00:52:28.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:54:19.000You know, I've done a lot of hit pieces.
00:54:21.000I've gone on a lot of national TV shows where they tape you for days or hours and then cut up what you said.
00:54:28.000They never let you put out your real evidence of a 9-11 minute inside job or the New World Order.
00:54:35.000And, you know, the key is the mainstream media has lost all their credibility.
00:54:38.000They've been caught putting out their disinfo forever.
00:54:41.000And, you know, I said I'd do this first History Channel thing and others, and I did them.
00:54:46.000I mean, it's a stacked deck, but this newest one, Alan, was a guy that specializes in hit pieces on JFK researchers and others, and really puts out ridiculous pieces where it's not even based in reality.
00:55:05.000You know, the very foundations of it aren't.
00:55:08.000And he's doing a big piece for National Geographic.
00:55:13.000I don't think I'm going to do that interview.
00:55:14.000No, I'm not going to be interviewed by it.
00:55:15.000And they just can't believe that I don't care about going on their national TV show so that I can have them stack the deck and do that.
00:55:28.000I mean, again, the culture is so sick wanting to be on TV, Alan.
00:55:34.000It's true, it's interesting as well to recognize that Professor Carl Quigley himself mentioned that that was a technique they used in mainstream media because they often called on him to bring on with a guest who was coming out with a theory of the world being manipulated and they'd bring him on to try and repudiate the guest.
00:55:55.000So that was part of his function, and he admits that in his own book, that they try and stack the deck and make the person look ridiculous.
00:56:02.000You gotta go on TV, here he is, government historian, who's writing a book for the government, laughing at how he would go lie to the American people and say this didn't exist.
00:56:12.000I mean, how do they get these guys to do this against their fellow man?
00:56:16.000Many people out there are so easily bribed.
00:57:30.000Okay, I just wanted to talk a little bit about global warming and supposedly it's caused CO2, which a lot of people call greenhouse gas, but if you want to find some information on it, You could better find it by looking up industrial gases on the internet.
00:57:52.000And you'll find all the uses that industry uses CO2 for.
00:57:57.000So my plan to stop all talk of global warming would be simply just to outlaw the sale of CO2.
00:58:08.000And when you do that, the first people to raise a stink about it would be the soft drink industry.
01:00:42.000And as the Club of Rome said, Richard N. Haas has the CFR writing for them, he said, it's about making humans the enemy and the state is the solution to deal with the enemy.
01:00:53.000So it's about making us bad, Alan Watt?
01:00:56.000Yes, that's in the book The First Global Revolution, and that's put out by the Club of Rome.
01:01:02.000And they said that back in the 70s, they were looking at a way to unite the planet and allow the public to be dominated, to allow themselves to be dominated.
01:01:11.000And they said that they hit upon the idea of making man the enemy of an environment.
01:01:16.000And to say that global warring was caused by man, that would fit the bill.
01:01:40.000What we know, too, is that the Club of Rome is not just a think tank, it's the premier think tank that creates strategy for the future and hands it to governments to put into policy.
01:01:52.000Meanwhile, you have all these well-meaning liberals and mainline people and having global warming parties and getting involved in knifing tires of SUVs.
01:02:16.000He puts it on his website and pulls it off.
01:02:18.000And I'm getting hundreds of emails every day, Alan, saying I'm a liar.
01:02:21.000I mean, they had openly, and then I was watching PBS Sunday, a show called Fueled, and they had a roundtable on PBS with Robert Kennedy and others saying, we're going to take everybody out of work and have them work for the environment.
01:02:37.000Can you imagine all these dumbed down, fluoride heads, sterilized, running around, literal zombie creatures, coming after us that know what's going on, because the government gives them a little uniform?
01:02:50.000That is right, and what the Club of Rome also said about that agenda was that the only time that the public will allow themselves to be completely ruled 100% is during a war scenario, and therefore they'd have to make a war scenario to do with the environment and man against the planet, and then they would change all of society by the laws they would then introduce.
01:03:47.000I'm still in a lot of your flex analogy.
01:03:48.000The indoctrination of children at kindergarten now is terrifying because they're going to grow up to be real staunch enviro-Nazis.
01:03:58.000And you can see it all coming, what's been planned.
01:04:01.000They always go for the youngsters to train them for their role when they're adults.
01:04:05.000Well, you saw these articles in the New York Times and others where, I'm glad my three-year-old and five-year-old rebuke me for taking a hot bath.
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01:06:29.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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01:07:58.000*thud* He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:09.000They have trained the public down the line, as you know, to believe that what they believe is reality, and that the general public is with the elite, and as you were saying, that the general masses Well-being is the same well-being of the elite or that we're all together.
01:08:30.000We're all going in the same direction.
01:08:36.000The public's also been trained not to have respect for themselves and to imagine Hollywood people as like gods who float around on clouds and elitist with eggheads in fancy suits on TV no more than they do.
01:08:48.000When in truth, once you really know what's going on, you watch the eggheads, the experts, they're putting out false disinfo on purpose that isn't even meant to make sense.
01:09:26.000I'm going to raise a point that never gets raised in terms of the global climate change debate, and it's one that really gets under my skin because I've researched it extensively, and that is heating of the ionosphere using electromagnetic energy from projects such as HAARP, one of many.
01:09:45.000I think over 60 countries now are heating the ionosphere.
01:09:48.000And I don't see how we can even have a discussion about climate change and so forth without including this in this quote-unquote debate.
01:10:07.000It takes you about five seconds to figure it out if you look it up.
01:10:11.000What we see when we experience this ionosphere heating With electromagnetic energy is severe changes in jet stream, increase in volcanics, increase in earthquakes.
01:10:23.000Now my understanding is that HAARP went operational approximately sometime right before 2004.
01:10:30.000And right after that we had the dramatic earthquake tsunami in Indonesia.
01:11:43.000The government now admits they're... I'm watching one right now.
01:11:47.000Just finishing this thought for folks that don't know what Donna knows, that don't know what Alan knows.
01:11:51.000I'm just throwing this out because it's so important, and I meant to make the point today, and I'm glad you called in on synchronicity or serendipity, whichever one.
01:11:58.000The point here is, is that, just finishing the thought, they are clearly, as Secretary of Defense Cohen said in 97 in Army Times in the April issue, They do have weather weapons.
01:12:15.000They do have tectonic earthquake weapons.
01:12:21.000So finish up your comment, and then I want to get Alan Watts' take on that.
01:12:25.000Okay, well, there is a misconception about missile defense shield.
01:12:29.000What the mainstream puts out there is that missile defense shield are these interceptors which fail nine times out of ten.
01:12:38.000And in fact, missile defense shield is pulsed energy, electromagnetic energy, into the ionosphere.
01:12:44.000And I'm leaning toward thinking that the chemtrails that I'm witnessing right now outside my window have something to do with that.
01:12:51.000So what we have here is this shield of energy being created by antennas such as HAARP, and you say HAARP, and you've got this horrible stigma just like you have when you say chemtrails.
01:13:01.000But it's a very real thing, and it's impacting everybody, everything, every living organism.
01:13:06.000Well, governments admit that they use antennas to manipulate the atmosphere, and that's in thousands, literally thousands of mainstream newspapers have reported on that.
01:14:24.000Now, there are technologies, no doubt about it.
01:14:27.000This ties in with technotronic warfare that Brzezinski talked about in his book, Between Two Ages.
01:14:32.000You say, shortly, a technique will be used on the public, and it will affect their minds, very placid, etc.
01:14:38.000And they can also use it to put thoughts right into your head, if necessary, by using a secondary beam.
01:14:45.000The United Nations signed a document with all the countries that had HAARP technology in the 1970s.
01:14:52.000You should look into that as under-weather warfare.
01:14:55.000And the whole idea was dreamed up in the 50s with Teller, who was the inventor of the H-bomb.
01:15:02.000He said if they can doze the atmosphere with barium salts, aluminum oxide, and others, he said we can make it very conductive and it will help with this ELF frequency.
01:15:13.000cover vast distances, and they could use it either for altering the weather, weather modification, or they could cause global warming with it, or freezing.
01:15:23.000One or the other depends on the type of frequency they hit it with.
01:15:26.000And it could also affect the mindset of a target population.
01:15:30.000So this is actually in the treaty at the United Nations from the 70s.
01:15:36.000They're using it extensively across the world.
01:15:38.000And by the way, the Baltimore Sun, eight years ago, did a big report admitting that DARPA is testing antenna arrays across the United States.
01:15:49.000And it said to calm the American people, we put off these waves, we love you, we're the government.
01:15:56.000Yeah, I've got photographs from Canada, the States, and Europe.
01:16:00.000They're putting up these strange antennas.
01:16:02.000They look like tall lampposts with a windsock on the end of it.
01:16:08.000I've seen this construction and photographs of construction where they have massive thick cables going into the bases of them and this is part of the Technotronic series set up where they can control crowds during and whole populations during times of crisis.
01:16:24.000They can make you literally zombified and very placid if they wish to.
01:16:40.000Well, for the people that think they're going to enforce this system, most of them aren't going to be part of the Brave New Future either, are they?
01:17:01.000Because the true sciences are kept back from the public, and even from professors.
01:17:07.000There's much higher levels of technology and science existing.
01:17:11.000And we know this from Nick Biggage, who had a documentary on television on the Wendy Mesley Show, where he demonstrated the obsolete technology, little handheld remotes that the CIA used back in the 1950s, where they could put thoughts directly into a target's mind.
01:17:30.000By the way, they had said Ted Stevens was beating his brother But it looks like Senator Stevens is going to be Senator Stevens.
01:17:39.000Looks like he's beating, that's Nick Begich's brother, Mark Begich.
01:17:44.000So it looks like he's winning right now in that highly contested Senate race.
01:17:49.000Just a program note, you're absolutely right.
01:17:52.000They've suppressed a lot of technologies.
01:17:54.000Anything else you wanted to add there?
01:18:31.000Crops that had been planted weren't getting any bigger.
01:18:34.000And when I noticed it myself, with regard to my indoor plants and my outdoor flowers and so forth, these are plants that are potted, mind you, not even in the ground.
01:18:43.000Everything these elites do is about playing God.
01:18:46.000Total matrix dominance, total... I mean, they have all these terms, but go ahead.
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01:24:26.000So on that side, it's saying it's a Catholic conspiracy.
01:24:29.000Then you have the new angels and devils.
01:24:31.000Uh, coming out, uh, with, uh, you know, all these big actors like Tom Hanks, where it's the Catholics fighting the Illuminati, and I can tell you what that is.
01:24:42.000That's about making it factionalized, or divide and conquer, where now people will fight about which group is it really when the New World Order controls both groups.
01:25:18.000We're just stating the facts of what it is today.
01:25:21.000And for some reason, groups out of Israel fund the idea that if you don't only talk about Catholics being the source of all evil, that you are in their employ.
01:25:34.000That's right, even though in Israel itself there is a Masonic Lodge there, where some of the Muslim leaders attend, along with the Jewish leaders and leaders from the Western world.
01:25:45.000There's been articles in the paper here from A Jewish leader in Toronto with his regalia on, his Masonic regalia, going off to that particular lodge representing Canada.
01:25:54.000So, you understand, you should say that ISIS had a thousand faces.
01:25:59.000Well, you see, this is the organization with a thousand faces and fronts.
01:27:12.000That's throwing it in your face, and we're seeing that everywhere, Alan.
01:27:16.000Explain to people what predictive programming is.
01:27:19.000Yeah, predictive programming is a technique developed in London for the BBC by Tavistock Institute.
01:27:26.000Where they experimented on, first of all, mental patients, and then they expanded it into the general population by surveys and tests, etc.
01:27:34.000And they found out that, mainly through fiction, because your sensor part of the brain is down, you don't expect to have to make decisions on information, you're being entertained, your sensor is down, and therefore all of the messages that are wrapped into, generally, a fight and flight scenario, where the hero gets chased, there's a lot of chasing going on, and your adrenaline's up,
01:27:56.000And so now when we talk about it, they're comfortable with it because, oh, everybody knows about that.
01:28:13.000Everybody knows the CIA deals the drugs.
01:28:15.000Everybody knows they put cancer viruses in the vaccines.
01:28:18.000I mean, a lot of people don't even deny what we're saying.
01:28:21.000They just go, okay, yeah, everybody knows that.
01:28:23.000That's right, but they don't realize that they now have opinions and conclusions, and they have no idea how they arrived at those opinions.
01:28:39.000Listen, I really appreciate what you and Alan are doing, and other people like you in the alternative media, because you're the only ones I hear speaking the truth these days.
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01:31:29.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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01:35:00.000There are just very wicked focus control freaks that run the planet.
01:35:03.000They say it's their right to do this to us because sh-trivel offense they're in control or not and i like them in the cancer no cancer can take over a body cancer is quote dominant the tissues of the body but it it it ends up killing the host and it is the same thing with a globally uh...
01:35:19.000i don't think they're in total control they've lost their minds they're crazy they they say there's no such thing as a genetic mutations when they create chimera cross species creations they just say well man's a natural mutation and so anything we make as a natural mutation So all their talk about the environment's a bunch of bull.
01:35:35.000They don't even care about themselves at certain levels.
01:35:38.000A lot of them are very nihilistic, and openly state, we have this in Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, that they might want to just destroy the Earth for fun.
01:35:47.000You know, it's like Nero burning Rome, or Caligula marrying his horse, or I mean, throughout history, these guys go crazy.
01:35:55.000So there is some megalomania going on here.
01:35:58.000But this is just a huge institution of evil.
01:36:01.000And they select more evil people into their ranks as the older ones die.
01:36:05.000And to them, I mean, it's a great honor that Zbigniew Brzezinski brags that he supported Paul Pott and helped him kill 2 million people.
01:36:12.000He's very proud of that, and they honor him when he walks on stage anywhere.
01:36:27.000Uh, Alan, in closing, before we take a few final calls, but in closing for your comments, I want folks to go to CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com, uh, get some of the audios, uh, the CDs that are there, support you, listen to the...
01:36:39.000It's got all the interviews and stuff you do.
01:36:40.000There's a lot of different variants and flavor and ideas covered there.
01:36:44.000But I want you, in closing, to speak to the enemy's mindset.
01:36:48.000I mean, was I accurately, from your position studying it, was I accurately trying to articulate their mindset?
01:36:54.000Yes, what they've found with psychopaths, like Hitler, he said that the German people could not conquer the world, they did not deserve to live under his own theory, the Darwinistic theory.
01:37:04.000And you find with Israel, Israel had to drag the Prime Minister Beginoff, when he had the Samson Complex, when he said, well, if Israel goes down, we will take the world with us.
01:37:14.000That's a standard psychopathic response, complete nihilism, if they cannot win and get their way.
01:37:20.000However, most of them at the top, have utter faith in their own abilities and their money and power to buy the sciences they need to help their own survival.
01:37:29.000And so they pin everything on higher sciences, which are kept quiet from the public, to pull themselves through.
01:37:37.000Same thing with Hitler and his super weapons, but they do have the underground bases.
01:37:42.000I mean, in Switzerland or in Russia, they have underground bases for the whole population of food.
01:37:46.000Here, we're told they don't exist while they're in the Congressional Office, Budget Office.
01:37:50.000They admit it exists, but, you know, they tell us the dumbest people on Earth.
01:37:54.000Or the most mind-controlled people on Earth, I should say.
01:37:56.000And so they're also very confident because they have those facilities.
01:37:59.000Yes, they have the total faith in forward planning and the unlimited financing that can be taken from the taxpayer and funneled into building their safe houses.
01:38:11.000and their underground bases, and they're well stocked up as well.
01:38:14.000Margaret Thatcher talked about that when she was in power because she was spending incredible amounts of the taxpayers' money on building these things for the elite.
01:39:04.000Uh, but, so he did back off of it, and then notice, you have trillions being stolen by the bankers, but they claim he stole, you know, a stock, selling his own stock, $700,000, and he's worth, you know, like $5 billion, uh, uh, selling some stock of some little, little company.
01:39:19.000But again, the public will think of him as rich.
01:39:21.000He owns a basketball team, just like they burned Martha Stewart.
01:39:25.000So none of the bankers, Kashkari or Paulson, they won't get in trouble.
01:40:07.000They had James Goldsmith, Sir James Goldsmith, who tried to pull Britain out of the EU.
01:40:12.000He was popular enough and famous enough to get a massive following.
01:40:16.000And he died from a pancreatic cancer that killed him within two weeks of diagnosis.
01:40:22.000And of course, there's more than just that.
01:40:24.000We have the guy that was going to get us out of Iraq and England, who was going to beat Gordon Brown, and ooh, something happened to him real fast.
01:40:32.000Kelly, he said they'll find me in the woods with my wrist cut.
01:40:39.000And sure enough, they did, but they found no blood.
01:40:41.000But you know, their standard MO, they're utterly ruthless at the top.
01:40:45.000And those who join their circles and join their fraternities and take oaths do put themselves at risk.
01:40:54.000Most of them think they'll never have to recount for it or stand up for it.
01:40:59.000But they do know if they cross the line, their life can be forfeited.
01:41:03.000What do the elites think of us, Alan, from your study?
01:41:07.000I always liken it to the sadist breaking the legs of the cow and down it goes and then it kicks the cow because it can't get up.
01:41:18.000In other words, they've dumbed us down, they've poisoned us, they've dropped the IQ, they've literally bioengineered us until we were almost transsexual as we are today.
01:41:28.000And they laugh at us, they laugh at the mess we're in, and they have this complete disdain for us, in fact.
01:41:35.000That's right, they laugh at us wallowing in our excrement on the ground with broken legs, drooling in pain, and they say, look at how ugly they are!
01:41:49.000It was made in Germany during World War II, where some psychiatrists were explaining to schoolchildren why they had to kill off the feeble-minded.
01:41:58.000And they showed you the most extreme examples of deformed people with very low IQs.
01:42:03.000And I thought, this is exactly the same technique.
01:42:05.000They're conditioning the whole public.
01:42:07.000They're conditioning the victims to accept their own demise.
01:42:24.000Um, yeah, I just, I actually, first of all, your show is amazing.
01:42:29.000You have unbelievable insight, and I hope the general public knows what you know.
01:42:41.000Um, my question to you is, um, I have a situation going on where I'm prescribed the painkillers and, uh, my doctor decided to drug test me and apparently I came up positive for certain things that were not prescribed and did not come up for what they prescribed me.
01:43:06.000After that, they urine tested me, and then I went and had a blood test done.
01:43:15.000After that, I'm just kind of wondering why they are trying to make this a criminal procedure.
01:43:29.000Well, number one, I appreciate your call, but we've got to jump here.
01:43:32.000Look, everything is designed to trap the average person.
01:43:35.000And so nice people always say, why are they setting me up?
01:43:45.000So they put out drugs as their excuse to legalize slavery again instead of it being an illness or a problem or something you need to be gotten off of.
01:44:52.000They run both sides of the drug industry, legal and illegal.
01:44:55.000And you would not have the excuse to build up the massive police forces, always under the guise of recruitment, to fight the drug war, if it wasn't for them putting out the drugs themselves.
01:45:05.000And we know for a fact, and I've read articles from some of the top ex-special forces men who were involved in bringing the drugs into the country.
01:46:13.000Every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, live there, on the moat of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.
01:46:39.000of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot there is a global meltdown coming It is a global depression.
01:47:07.000And one world currency and one world financial system is the endgame.
01:47:14.000China said last week they want one global currency.
01:47:17.000France said yesterday or the day before that they want one world order, a new world order, at the end of this event.
01:47:27.000I'm at a proposal for an expanded so-called free trade zone from Alaska to The tip of South America.
01:47:34.000It's a plan from the business elites, the political elites, that will cost more American jobs, cost American sovereignty, but it would fulfill the President's father's vision.
01:47:44.000This time, a new world order with business at the helm of trade and economic policy, effectively surrendering the sovereignty of the United States.
01:49:59.000How do we know, how do the American people know that 9-11 was the stage, was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR, and Bilderberg Group, sir?
01:50:34.000The 21st century is going to be a new century.
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01:54:05.000A world in which there is a very real prospect of a new world order.
01:54:09.000It is a new world order with significantly different and radically new challenges for the future.
01:54:25.000A world in which there is a new world order with significantly different and radically different.
01:54:31.000The question is, will they build untold millions as they did in the last century?
01:54:44.000It is not the elite cockroaches that determine that.
01:55:17.000the elitist control freaks that are scared of free humanity they are scared of your dynamic human spirit and they need your They think they can suppress you.
01:56:14.000The first problem in history, which is good, decent, average, to the folks, is that we have trouble grasping.
01:56:19.000of matters to you folks is that we have trouble grasping.
01:56:24.000We look at the world with our eyes, and we think that other people think like we do.
01:56:28.000But history shows that it's not the case.
01:56:30.000There are dangerous individuals who are preachy and hateful, that nothing matters to you, that are jealous of the freedom you got, that are jealous of the love you have.
01:56:36.000They hate you because you're not miserable like they are.
01:56:37.000And they think that they're going to be able to continue to enslave us.
01:57:54.000I stand before the creator of the universe.
01:57:57.000And I ask the creator of the universe, as our founding mother did in 1776, to lead God to give us the power and the first time of the understanding and the will to stand against your entire agenda, including your final plan of world population including your final plan of world population reduction of 80% that Henry Kissinger penned in 1776.
01:59:16.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
01:59:22.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:59:26.000Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much much more.
02:00:26.000It is Tuesday, October 28th, 2008, one week from Election Day.
02:00:31.000And we've been talking to Webster Tarpley in the past hour.
02:00:34.000We're taking your calls right now, and, uh, In these last, in these five minutes before we go to the next segment, uh, Webster, and take more callers, I want you to go over those three points.
02:00:44.000Now, obviously, your agenda is to stop Obama at all costs.
02:00:47.000What are the other two big points that we have to get by on this election?
02:01:06.000Uh, tremendous, crushing, brutal economic austerity within the first 12 months, and an international confrontation, probably with false flag or some form of aggression in the first 6 months.
02:01:18.000Secondly, anybody who voted for the bailout has to be punished.
02:01:22.000You gotta vote against any elected official.
02:01:48.000We do not want the presidency, the Senate, and the House of Representatives in the hands of the same people.
02:01:53.000The monstrosities of the Bush era are largely in the period of one-party Republican rule, which is from about January of 2003 to about January of 2007.
02:02:04.000That's the Republican one-party state, and that's what gets you the Iraq War and a lot of other things going with it.
02:02:12.000As far as these third parties go, Cynthia McKinney, Rosa Clemente is somebody that I've known from broadcasting in New York City.
02:02:20.000She needs to develop a much more aggressive critique of Obama.
02:02:26.000Nader has probably attacked Obama more than others on the idea that Obama betrays the black community, doesn't care about them, uses them.
02:02:36.000Bob Barr's running mate, Wayne Root, is somebody who graduated from Columbia in 1983, and points out that he was in the same year and the same department as Obama at Columbia College, and nobody ever heard of Obama.
02:02:50.000There's no sign that Obama ever attended Columbia during those years.
02:02:55.000I think that's when he was recruited by Brzezinski.
02:02:59.000So, if you're in a state where it's clear that it's going to go one way or another, if you're in a state like You know, I guess Texas is pretty much, you know, a lost cause for Obama.
02:03:10.000Then you can think about trying to make a statement with these third-party votes.
02:03:15.000You've got to do what's congenial for you.
02:03:17.000And some people, obviously, you know, are going to want to support them.
02:03:21.000And maybe out of that, some of these third parties can come out with a permanent infrastructure and some government funding.
02:03:46.000I mean, you don't think that John McCain has a shot in either of those two states, do you?
02:03:49.000No, but this is a very, very close election, and I do believe that any place where you have blue-collar workers, The group that's undercounted are the Puma Democrats, the Reagan Democrats, the Hillary Clinton Democrats.
02:04:03.000It's about 25% of the Democratic Party.
02:04:08.000They will not vote for Obama, and I think it's going to be a surprise.
02:04:12.000The whole Appalachian area, in particular, is fundamentally hostile to Obama because they have a class instinct.
02:04:19.000They can see that Obama is a class enemy.
02:04:22.000He's somebody who's coming to impose crushing austerity in the name of the Wall Street banks.
02:04:33.000Everything that he's got has been given to him by these bankers.
02:04:36.000All right, Webster, we're going to take some other calls on the next segment, and in about, I think, 20 minutes, it's going to be Willie Nelson on the tour bus, the legendary country music icon here at InfoWars.com, PrisonPlan.com.
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02:08:18.000I am Jason Burmas, sitting in with Webster Tarpley, our guest, and we've got callers on the line.
02:08:23.000We're discussing the bailout, the elections, you know, Webster's books, Obama, the post-modern coup, and what is it, Obama, the presidency, H2O?
02:08:45.000You know, one person from the 9-11 truth movement who has, I think, completely understood the profound change, the phase change that we've gone through, is Phil Berg.
02:08:54.000And Phil Berg, I believe, will be at the Supreme Court here in Washington, the United States Supreme Court.
02:09:00.000attempting to argue his case, which has been defeated.
02:09:06.000It's a direct interlocutory appeal to the Supremes that Obama is not a natural-born citizen, that he was, in effect, born in Kenya and naturalized as a citizen of Indonesia, making him an illegal alien.
02:09:19.000And people who were concerned about illegal aliens better start with this one, or it's going to be a lost cause any other way.
02:09:26.000So, Berg is waging a valiant struggle, and I urge people to support him.
02:09:30.000He's got a website called Obama Crimes, and you can go there and give him a contribution, encourage him.
02:09:39.000He's got 70 to 80 million hits on this website in about two months.
02:09:44.000And this is an example of somebody who learned the lesson of 9-11, which is covert operations by the intelligence agencies designed to manipulate public opinion are bad, whether they're left cover, like Obama, or the right-wing racist war on terror stuff from 9-11.
02:10:03.000Not to get off on a tangent before we go into calls, but you just mentioned the Kenya's citizenship thing, do you think that's something that might come out after this man is already president and will, like, automatically amend the Constitution?
02:10:16.000No, I think there are a lot of things that are held over Obama's head for control.
02:10:19.000In other words, the whole Resco complex, the whole sewer and cesspool of corruption with Tony Resco, Nadhimi Aouchi, Al Samari, these characters from Well, from Chicago, but also from the Eastern Mediterranean.
02:10:39.000Obama's got these three convicted felons that are his godfathers.
02:10:42.000I'm sure that the feds could indict Obama at any time, but they're holding that over his head.
02:10:47.000If people are interested in Obama, the unauthorized biography, I do that in comparison to Harry S. Truman, who was controlled, among other things, in the same way.
02:10:56.000With Truman, it was the Pendergast machine in Missouri that he came out of.
02:11:01.000Truman could have been indicted at any point that the bankers decided that he wasn't obeying them.
02:11:08.000I'd rather think that the hope of the ruling elite is to keep the citizenship issue as yet another means to beat him over the head if he starts getting rambunctious in office.
02:11:25.000I just wanted to talk about Michelle Obama when she gave that big speech where she was wearing that teal shirt of some type.
02:11:33.000Right smack in the middle of her shirt was a sun symbol.
02:11:36.000Sure enough, today on the Drudge Report, there's a picture of her from yesterday on Jay Leno or maybe a few days ago and sure enough she's got a sun symbol right on her shirt.
02:14:43.000It's more how the mind works, how you're able to plant certain words.
02:14:48.000So, you know, certain part of the brain activate to move a certain manner.
02:14:52.000And these people are especially, you know, agents that are recruited by intelligence organizations like the CIA and the NSA, when they're going to be speakers, are taught these techniques that are there To basically corral people, to convince them, to persuade them to do things.
02:15:10.000In particular, though, there's also the emotional need.
02:15:14.000In other words, when somebody joins what amounts to a fascist mass movement or a neo-fascist mass movement of the Obama type, They're doing this for the satisfaction of immediate emotional needs.
02:15:27.000Part of it is the hatred for Bush, Cheney, and the neocons, which I can understand, which in some ways I share, has blinded people, and that's where you have to part company.
02:15:37.000They've lost all criteria of judgment, as long as you're something other than Bush, Cheney.
02:15:42.000There's also this question of alienation.
02:15:56.000We need the healing touch of the beatific personality, the one, the Messiah, the Mahdi, Barack Obama.
02:16:05.000There's a passage in Mein Kampf by Hitler where he talks about the fact that if you're a worker and you're in your factory, you're living an alienated life where nothing really belongs to you emotionally.
02:16:17.000But if you go to a National Socialist Rally, then you feel fulfilled nationally, racially, and in all these other ways.
02:16:24.000And there's a very similar dynamic in these Obama mass meetings, right?
02:16:35.000Hitler says, the bigger the crowd, the more easy it is to control.
02:16:39.000The more people that are there, the more you can brainwash them, and the more undifferentiated.
02:16:45.000In other words, what you want is the massy mass.
02:16:47.000Not people who are there as consumers, or workers, or housewives, but just the mass.
02:16:53.000And when you've got the mass, especially at night, he says, at night is better because people are more irrational, then you can get them in the palm of your hand, and you're not convincing them with arguments, you're convincing them with an emotional experience which is irrefutable.
02:17:08.000Yeah, like the hive-like mentality of being around all these things and just going with the flow.
02:17:14.000When you get a mass movement of this sort under depression conditions, after all the tremendous damage done to the society by Bush and Cheney, this is where it gets really, really scary.
02:17:24.000What we need is some time to build an alternative.
02:17:35.000I advocate return to New Deal methods.
02:17:38.000They worked before, they will work now.
02:17:40.000But it's going to take a discussion process to get people to understand this, and they're also going to have to see in the course of this depression that a lot of that, the free market, Friedmanite, von Hayek, Austrian school, simply doesn't work.
02:17:52.000But right now the main thing is to stop Obama so that you have at least a breathing space to try to get some kind of an alternative together, which you don't have right now.
02:18:02.000Well, you were just talking about schools of philosophy, so I just got to ask you, Have you seen the Zeitgeist Addendum yet?
02:18:08.000I'm not interested in this stuff because of this vulgar attack on religion, which I think is just useless and pointless.
02:18:15.000You gotta remember, the British intelligence is running a huge attack on Christianity, with Christopher Hitchens, with this awful Darwinian character, Dawkins.
02:18:44.000The problem with Darwin, and the problem with Malthus, and anybody who follows them, is that it assumes that the universe is entirely random, and that it's a matter of indifference whether there's development or higher energy states, or whether there's not.
02:19:00.000So, therefore, Darwin has to assume that all the progress in evolution, which undoubtedly is there, there's no doubt about evolution, and the progress towards humanity from lower life forms, that's all clear.
02:19:13.000But he says this is the blind watchmaker.
02:19:15.000This is all a matter of just chance, interaction, and it could happen or it could not happen.
02:19:22.000The Darwinian-Malthusian universe is not the universe that you see.
02:19:26.000The universe that you see is a Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz.
02:19:30.000We're gonna be back after this with more calls.
02:19:32.000if you will, a built-in bias in the physical order of things in favor of development and higher energy states, because that's what you see.
02:19:41.000Wes, can you stay one more segment with us?
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02:25:03.000Webster, I respect your research and the books, and I agree with you that we want no Obama, punish those who voted for the bailout, and no to fascism, but I think the suggestion that by voting for McCain is going to be anything but Obama is just Falling into the false left-right dialectic, you know, of paradigm, left-right paradigm, that both candidates are puppets of the New World Order.
02:25:26.000Chuck Baldwin, whether he gets in or gets not, at least you're voting for something that's not going to be more the same, where there is no, Obama is going to be defeated and that's going to be a difference.
02:25:38.000The idea that the big deal, that the New Deal worked, As an answer to the economic problems in the past, I think it's a fallacy.
02:25:44.000If we just simply end the Fed and stop being interested for use of our own money, that that would be an answer.
02:25:49.000And I think there's a book Dan Hopsicker wrote called Barry and the Boys, the CIA, the Mob, and America's Secret History.
02:25:56.000It had a picture on the photo on the cover of Barry Seale, CIA drug pilot, that it was in Mexico prior to the JFK assassination.
02:26:06.000He's seated with Portagoss and several other well-known CIA agents.
02:26:11.000Portagoss, of course, was named director of CIA by Bush.
02:26:14.000These people connect to Clintons and the Bushes right up through.
02:26:18.000Your point, sir, is that this thing continues, that this Leviathan has been around for 30 or 40 years at least, at least this want of the Bush regime and the shadow government continuity of government program, and you don't think it's going to end, right?
02:26:31.000Yeah, to say no Obama, anything Obama, as if that is any sort of an answer, misses the point of all this research.
02:26:52.000They vary in political quality, quite obviously.
02:26:54.000But it is essentially the backlash out of the Democratic Party against the Obama-Howard Dean seizure of power, and one of the benefits here is that there's an openness to New Deal.
02:27:05.000Now, this candidate that you've mentioned, the problem there of course is That this is pure, reactionary, Republican, Herbert Hoover economics.
02:27:16.000This is the kind of thinking that made the Great Depression as deep and as destructive as it was.
02:27:22.000There is no debate, really, about what effective economics are.
02:27:52.000Government is dominated by Wall Street.
02:27:55.000If you look at somebody like Greenspan, is that the Federal Reserve is an independent power?
02:28:02.000In essence, their operational arm, their think tank arm, where a lot of their ideas come down to.
02:28:08.000A lot of this is people looking for reasons not to mobilize, essentially to do nothing, and to say, well, I'll just vote for this one third-party candidate and leave it at that.
02:28:18.000That's really choosing, I think, a very facile way out of it.
02:28:24.000All right, well, let's certainly take another call then.
02:28:25.000All right, let's jump to John in Ohio.
02:28:37.000But I think my approach would be that we have to show the overlap between these neocon fascists to the Bush-Cheney group, the McCain group.
02:28:48.000And the Obama, because I think if I'm going to vote for somebody it's going to be from a genuine left, a WSWS.org or a workers org type of real left point of view.
02:28:59.000The fake left has been the favorite of the CIA all the way back to the Vietnam War, where they preferred to have a fake liberal cover.
02:29:08.000On right-wing propaganda, anti-communist, pro-war, Vietnam War propaganda.
02:29:14.000What I'd like to say, though, is I think we can show the overlap between, and compare Obama's reality, he is every bit as much of a warmonger and then some as Bush and Cheney around the world.
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02:33:08.000Alright folks, we're back at the Alex Jones Show.
02:33:23.000I'm Jason Bermas and I keep my promises.
02:33:26.000I said at 1.30 we were going to play Willie Nelson on the bus with Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones and I keep my promises so that's coming up Momentarily in the long segment right now, but first I've got to thank our great sponsor, New Vitality.
02:35:55.000I think this year there's more reason to vote.
02:35:59.000People will get up and vote against something more than they will for something.
02:36:04.000This year they're voting against Well, specifically, you were talking about, you were starting to allude to, they went too far with 9-11, but in your own words, because it has backfired with 84% in major polls believing they're being lied to about it.
02:36:19.000In some polls, about 60% believing it's an inside job.
02:36:22.000In polls five years ago, 36% saying inside job.
02:36:25.000Wait a minute, Alex, I've got to interject.
02:37:07.000Willie, what response did you get for going public for 9-11 Truth?
02:37:11.000Well, I had a lot of people that agreed with me, and, uh, I had a lot of people that didn't.
02:37:16.000Uh, I'd go on people's shows, like Amy Goodman, and she's, uh, you know, she wanted to hear my views, and her and a lot of her listeners, uh, agreed that there is something there.
02:37:41.000Well, this is a paradox, because, because every, I mean, most people I run into, you know, privately will say, you know, I know something's going on, or even publicly.
02:37:48.000Now, I do run into kind of the neo-con, 30%, you know, pro-war people, and you're watching a football game, aren't you?
02:37:57.000And, you know, with that kind of, and I'm not saying football, but, you know, that particular group, that's your Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh.
02:39:04.000They will not believe that our country, the great country that they all served and went through World War II and all of this, they will, they refuse to believe our country to be evil.
02:40:40.000I agree with Willie, because I love my mother and father-in-law dearly, and I respect them, they're terrific people, but they just will not accept that our government would be evil.
02:40:53.000How do you get past that denial, Willie?
02:40:56.000I mean, I didn't get folks to break out.
02:42:20.000Not one person got to look at the actual crime scene, which is backwards to what normally is done.
02:42:26.000That's what causes, for me, the light to go on.
02:42:30.000Because when they start doing a crime scene the exact opposite of the way it's supposed to be done, that tells you that there's ulterior forces involved here.
02:43:03.000That's the exact opposite of the way it should be.
02:43:06.000The investigation should always take priority.
02:43:09.000And even if they use the excuse, well, we were searching for bodies, there could have been alive people in there, which you can accept, it still doesn't relieve them.
02:43:19.000They could have removed that medal and put it somewhere to wear later.
02:44:03.000They came in, they cleaned up everything, they took all the video cameras away, and they dared anybody to say anything.
02:44:09.000Yeah, and so now there's no way to prove or disprove anything?
02:44:13.000Well, Willie, isn't that right there historically, especially in a criminal investigation, a cover-up is generally seen as an evidence of guilt or that there should be a massive investigation.
02:44:26.000Anytime you cover up evidence or take evidence away, you have an agenda there.
02:44:31.000You're trying to stop people from knowing what happened.
02:44:34.000And I really do believe that's what happened.
02:44:36.000So I think the cover-up's the biggest piece of evidence that it is an inside job.
02:44:41.000That certainly plays a huge role in it.
02:44:43.000What's your take on how they blocked the funding for the firefighters and police and emergency workers from all that deadly dust?
02:44:50.000Why wouldn't Congress... I mean, we've been to Congress, made a film about it, and they just say, no, we're not going to take care of it, even though all the CAT scans in hospitals say it's killing them.
02:45:02.000And this firefighter uses a 600 number.
02:45:04.000The official government reports a few months ago say it's over 1,100 have done.
02:45:11.000Well, first of all, there's a long list of things that we can talk about that we don't like about this government and what it's doing and what it has done.
02:45:23.000And it goes back further than the Bush administration.
02:45:29.000It goes all the way back to other administrations a long time ago when this country started going the wrong way and started doing things around the world thinking that we were the world's policemen.
02:45:43.000And also we were the world's resource gatherer.
02:45:49.000If there was something over there you had, we're gonna come get it.
02:45:53.000We'll make you a deal you can't turn down.
02:45:56.000So, that's been going on as long as I can remember.
02:45:59.000Long as I've been watching our government operate.
02:46:01.000So, this is just one more time, I think, that they're stepped over the line doing things that they... As far as I'm concerned, that's not what I hired them for.
02:46:11.000They work for me, they work for you, they work for Jesse, and they're screwing up.
02:46:15.000Well, I think that, like you said earlier, the people are finally really getting fed up, and I don't think they're gonna go back to sleep again.
02:46:21.000I think... I think the revolution's on.
02:48:34.000I remember growing up that that was what we were all taught was going to happen one day.
02:48:39.000I go to church and they say, well you've got the Prince of Peace, Jesus, he's going to come and there's going to be peace on Earth for a thousand years.
02:49:26.000Living on, you know, ten houses and six yachts and going off and starting these big corporations where they screw me and you out of money and they go overseas.
02:49:38.000Now, I want to see one of those guys get out there and have to grow his own potatoes.
02:49:42.000We have to stop electing Democrats and Republicans.
02:49:46.000And we have to start electing and destroying the system they've created that is so corrupt within itself that we're a two-party dictatorship now.
02:49:55.000Politics in America today is identical to pro-wrestling.
02:50:00.000And what I mean by that is, in front of the cameras and the public, we all hate each other.
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02:54:47.000We're going to have Ray McGovern, the 26-year CIA analyst, the veteran, on to talk about the current election, on to talk about his latest article where he really denounces the Washington Post, I believe, for their little editorial page.
02:55:03.000Oh, it looks like the war with Iran is off the table with both us and Israel.
02:55:08.000And he really goes over that, how that's not a sad thing, and he does hope it's the truth, and I doesn't understand their attitude towards it.
02:55:14.000But in this segment, I want to, uh, I want to read this article out of the, uh, National Post.
02:55:20.000Now, this is a big, uh, paper out in Canada, and, uh, Jonathan Kaye, I guess, this, uh, guy who writes for them for many years, wrote something about the, uh, 9-11 truth movement, and then he had to write this.
02:55:32.000Jonathan Kaye on the humbling frustrations of debating 9-11 truthers.
02:55:37.000Write a column denouncing the 9-11 truth movement.
02:55:40.000These are the people who dismissed the official 9-11 explanation as White House-filled lie.
02:55:44.000One truther's sect believes the American government, or rogue elements within it, planned the September 11th attacks under a false flag.
02:55:51.000Another concedes Al Qaeda's involvement, but insists the plot was known to the warmongering Bush administration.
02:55:56.000Other truthers favor more exotic explanations, featuring missiles, remote-controlled airliners, the Mossad, mini-nukes, and even space weapons.
02:56:03.000What they all have in common, I've learned, is a hate-on for journalists who blithely dismiss them as nutbars, as I did a few weeks ago in a blog post about ex-liberal candidate and unapologetic truther, Leslie Hughes.
02:56:17.000Normally, I confess these are the sort of correspondence I delete from my inbox without much guilt.
02:56:21.000As with all conspiracy theorists, see this is what I don't like, debate is pointless, since they have no chance of convincing me, nor I them.
02:56:29.000Why waste my time parsing their arguments?
02:56:31.000But see, he admits he won't be swayed no matter what.
02:56:33.000But something about the Truth or Email, I got aroused my interest.
02:56:37.000For one thing, there was a lot of it, which perhaps should not surprise me.
02:56:40.000As the Post's Adrian Humphries reported last week, 39% of Canadians either reject or doubt the official explanation for the 9-11 attacks.
02:56:54.000Secondly, many of these messages, a majority in fact, were lucid and coherent, well-written even.
02:57:00.000Some of the senders had letters after their names, and even email addresses contained the domain names of recognizable universities.
02:57:08.000Conspiracy theorists they may be, but they're certainly not sub-human weirdos who try to convince me the Holocaust never happened, nor the anti-social paranoiacs who send me Weekly updates about their decade-long litigation campaign against their ex-landlords.
02:57:30.000Something that hit home when I read this stinging comment in a message from Winnipeg area writer Dallas Hanson.
02:57:36.000Take a look at the mound of evidence suggesting a black op.
02:57:39.000I'm sure you're a smart guy, but posturing as though that you've got all the answers to 9-11 and defaming those who question the explanation we've been given is a little much.
02:57:47.000September 11th wasn't a black op, but Hansen is right that, like mainstream journalists, I overplay my intellectual hand when it comes to 9-11 and just about everything else besides.
02:57:59.000I could lie to Mr. Hanson and my readers and tell them I've read the U.S.
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03:02:05.000Yeah, I wanted to speak to, well, I really was calling to speak to your last guest, but I want to speak on some of the points that he made, some of the bashing of Barack Obama.
03:02:15.000First I want to talk about him saying that Ralph Nader was stepping up, saying that Barack Obama, the group in the black community and things like that.
03:02:25.000The first thing about that I want to say is, Ralph Nader doesn't speak up any time.
03:02:31.000The way issues go on in the black community and the injustice is done by people in this country.
03:02:35.000I've never heard of Rob Neddard speak of...
03:02:48.000Well, I mean, I'm not speaking of black...
03:02:51.000I'm black, so I'm going to tell you, like, some of the things that go on, like with the June 6th, Sean Bale killing, and just all kinds of... So are you voting for Barack?
03:03:02.000I've never heard him speak up, and he's been on Al Sharpton's show, so it's not like he hasn't had a chance to speak on those things, but when he's on Al Sharpton's show, and that's about as much in the black community as much as you can get.
03:03:15.000I mean, the big opportunity is you can get to speak to the black community.
03:03:19.000And also, when it comes to Barack Obama, you know, not caring about the black community, guys like Professor Charles Oventree, Dick Gregory, Martin Luther King III, these are some of the most prominent people in the black community, and they're not part of the New World Order.
03:03:35.000Matter of fact, these people are some of the most anti-New World Order people you can get if you ever listen to Dick Gregory.
03:03:40.000Yeah, but I don't know how that translates into Barack Obama being anti-New World Order.
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03:07:00.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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03:08:51.000I do want to make one point to the last caller.
03:08:54.000Hopefully he is still listening in before we go to Ray McGovern.
03:08:58.000Just because somebody's African-American does not mean that they can't be part of this globalist system, a part of this quote-unquote New World Order.
03:09:06.000Let me read you something off the Harvard University website, the Gazette News, from September 27, 2001.
03:09:15.000Now, this is basically two and a half weeks after 9-11, because you did just mention people like, you know, Martin Luther King Jr., a great man.
03:09:22.000But then you mentioned people like Al Sharpton and, you know, other people who were under suspicion.
03:10:13.000I don't think getting McCain into office is probable or possible unless, you know, the elitists really want that and they rig the voting machines to do so.
03:10:22.000Alright, without further ado, we're going to bring on Ray McGovern, the 26-year CIA analyst.
03:10:28.000He debriefed people like Dick Cheney and others.
03:10:31.000In the 80s, his latest editorial Is attack on Iran off the table and he really goes after the Washington Post for really putting a down swing on it, like it's a bad thing that the attack on Iran may be off the table both here and in Israel.
03:10:48.000You're welcome Jason, glad to be with you.
03:10:50.000Now, Ray, you know, before we get into this editorial, election day is a week away.
03:10:55.000You know, I interviewed you a little over two years ago, right in the run up to the 2006 election, and we talked about the Democratic Congress getting in and possibly emboldening them.
03:11:06.000Two years later, we're not out of Iraq.
03:11:08.000I mean, obviously there are Democrats that I want to see, and I'd love to see Cindy Sheehan take Pelosi's seat.
03:11:13.000Oh, man, that would be a huge triumph.
03:11:16.000But, give me your take on the election right now.
03:11:20.000Well, if I take five steps back, Jason, I say to myself, wow, I thought it was going to be a choice between a McCain type person and Mrs. Clinton.
03:11:38.000That would have been a real, real problem for me.
03:11:41.000I never thought that I would have a candidate running who has said sensible things about Iraq.
03:11:49.000I had said less than sensible things about other things, but certainly, in my view, you have to look at what the alternative is.
03:12:00.000And I noted your advice to people in your own decision to support my good friend, Cynthia.
03:12:10.000However, I would ask people to reflect on what that could mean, because that happened once before.
03:12:16.000Lots of people supported a third-party candidate, and we got George W. Bush.
03:12:21.000So think hard about that before you waste your vote.
03:12:25.000And you're obviously talking about Ralph Nader, who was run in the previous two elections and also in this one, correct?
03:12:51.000And, you know, we had Webster Tarpley on a couple hours ago, and he really talked about how Obama is talking about possibly an invasion or a bombing of Pakistan to go after the remnants of the Taliban or Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden.
03:13:06.000And that could cause a whole new situation in the Middle East and Eurasia.
03:13:11.000Yeah, Jason, again, I know Webster, I think what one has to do is be really careful about taking campaign rhetoric as a sign of real intention.
03:13:23.000I mean, look at what Obama has said about Israel, for example.
03:13:27.000I mean, it's almost sickening how the candidates reply among themselves to tell the American public who loves Israel the best, Joe Biden.
03:13:38.000Trying to outdo everyone else by saying, yeah, we all love Israel, but I love Israel with a passion, you know?
03:13:46.000So you expect that kind of rhetoric from Obama, from anybody.
03:13:49.000And when he talks about Afghanistan, for example, he has to sort of show the American people how tough he is, that he is up to the task, particularly military task.
03:14:06.000But I would fully expect, and I've been wrong about these kinds of things before, but I I would fully expect that once Warheed would be in office, that the people that he would gather around him would tell him what a feckless exercise not only Iraq but Afghanistan has been, and that history dictates that no one wins this kind of battle or occupation, and he would come to his senses.
03:14:32.000So, I'm not willing to address what Obama says about these things as though they should be taken at face value.
03:14:41.000So you do think that he's somewhat genuine and there's a possibility that these aggressions in the Middle East will subside after he's elected and he puts in an administration that you feel would de-escalate the war?
03:14:55.000Well, yeah, I have, you know, the notion of the candidate who says, you know, a hundred years, no problem, coming into office turns my hair on end.
03:15:07.000I don't think that a A fellow who's made his reputation by crashing airplanes and getting shot down has shown any real acuity with respect to policies to be crafted or followed.
03:15:22.000And so it's a matter of compared to what, finally?
03:15:25.000And, you know, when I look at the Democratic candidate and you look at the debates, there's a fellow with a cool head, easy and eager to learn.
03:15:39.000I think he will probably avoid the mistakes of predecessors who thought they could come into Washington and diss the people in the press and others with whom you really have to sort of work out a compromise so that they will give you half a chance to have your message heard.
03:15:57.000And, you know, it's going to be not a very hard act to follow.
03:16:02.000I mean, these eight years have been a disaster for our country.
03:16:06.000And, you know, just as my friend Bobby Gates, the Secretary of Defense, Just as he followed Rumsfeld and had, like, a two-year honeymoon.
03:16:17.000So, too, I think whoever replaces Bush, presumably if it's the favorite contender, that he will have a honeymoon period where people will just be so delighted to listen to a person who just conceivably might tell the truth on occasion, that if he's of a mind to, and hopefully is, he can change these crazy policies.
03:16:48.000When John McCain comes out and talks about a hundred-year war or he talks about us being the enemy, I mean, I think you can kind of see the senility in his face.
03:17:13.000It's almost like they're throwing the election.
03:17:15.000I mean, do you really think that McCain has a shot at winning this?
03:17:18.000This is not my field of expertise, Jason.
03:17:26.000My opinion in this area is not worth anything more than the next person's.
03:17:32.000You know, there are so many variables and so many shenanigans been played over the last couple of elections that I would encourage anyone who is as afraid as I am of Kaylin and McCain to make sure that not only that their vote is taken, but that their vote is counted.
03:17:49.000Alright, well let's jump to this Iran situation.
03:18:10.000And I say that as one who for three years was saying that chances were at least equal and probably greater than equal that Bush and Cheney, to fulfill their promise to Israel, would, quote, take care of Iran.
03:18:29.000Well, there are a bunch of things that have changed.
03:18:31.000One is that the senior uniformed military in this country have shown little guts for a change.
03:18:39.000We had Admiral Fallon resigning after saying, we're not going to do Iran on my watch.
03:18:45.000Uh, resigning rather than letting himself be on the receiving end of the idiotic order to start a war with Iran and risk the fortunes and lives of all those troops he has in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in the Gulf.
03:18:58.000He didn't want to put himself in that position, and so he in effect quit by going to the press and saying, we're not going to do Iran, don't be crazy.
03:19:07.000Now, Admiral Mullen, Mike Mullen, who came in, I was an Army officer, so it's really hard for me to say these good things about Navy admirals.
03:19:19.000Admiral Mullen, I mean, I think he's got guts that we haven't seen.
03:19:23.000He goes back from Israel and says it would be very foolish to open yet a third war, a third front in that part of the area.
03:19:33.000And then we later learned, we learned this from the Israeli press, I mean you don't learn anything like this from the American press, what I call the fawning corporate media.
03:19:44.000We learned from the Israeli press that when Mullen was there, he braced his opposite numbers in the Israeli leadership and he said, look, don't even think Don't even think of any tricks in the Persian Gulf or anything that would provoke the Iranians so that they would attack you, and then you would expect us to come in.
03:20:04.000We're not going to come in if you provoke the attack.
03:20:07.000And then, you know, the real blitz, Jason, you know, you brought up, you brought up the... Well, we'll bring it up on the other side, because we're just about to go to break.
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03:24:56.000We're with Ray McGovern, 26-year CIA veteran, and he's discussing with us the Military personnel who have returned home and said, no war with Iran, and you were just discussing a gentleman who just returned from Israel and said the same thing, right?
03:25:10.000Yes, this was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Jason, Mike Mullen, an Admiral, who was out there in June, actually, and told the Israelis, not only do we not want a new war with Iran, but don't even think about trying to provoke one.
03:25:27.000By doing something to let the boom go up.
03:25:33.000Now, what I was trying to say is he did something incredibly gutsy, something that no U.S.
03:25:39.000statesman has done in 41 years, and that is he raised the incident of the U.S.
03:26:23.000Because the Israelis know that Mullen knows, as a naval officer, what happened back on that terrible day, June 8th, 1967, and that Mullen was not going to let it happen again.
03:26:34.000That's about as direct, that's about as clear a message as you can send to the Israeli leaders.
03:26:41.000And right after that, right after that, we saw a slight attenuation of the propaganda out of Israel and out of the United States with respect to what a terrible threat.
03:27:06.000Well, I'm talking about the Russian bear who has it up to here now with his nose being tweaked.
03:27:13.000What happened was the Russians saw Israel and saw us, that is Cheney and Elliot Abrams and those types in the White House, as being behind that idiot Sakhashvili's attack on South Ossetia.
03:27:29.000Well, the Russians are up to here, and they said, look, you know, not only are we going to repel this attack, and they did so brutally, I don't hold any grief for that, not only are we going to repel the attack, but don't even think about Georgia becoming part of NATO or the Ukraine, and besides, Israelis, if you thought that you could use Georgian air fuels to attack Iran, Look at the map, you folks.
03:27:53.000The only feasible way, without flying over Iraq and other countries who would deny overflight permission, coming down from Georgia would have been quite feasible.
03:28:06.000And that, according to some reports, is what the Israelis had in mind.
03:28:10.000So the Russians really came down real hard.
03:28:12.000Olmert went up to Russia, other people went up to Russia, and they said, look, it's all over.
03:28:17.000Don't even think about attacking Iran.
03:28:21.000And again, we intelligence analysts look at all sources, and we saw a very sharp fall off of all the warnings out of the White House about how bad Iran is, how it's supplying our opponents in Iraq, and how it's developing.
03:28:35.000They all fell right off in early August, and it's still pretty far down.
03:28:40.000Two other factors I've mentioned briefly.
03:28:42.000You know, AIPAC, the American Israel political or if it act political something committee they drafted legislation.
03:28:59.000They drafted legislation which formed the substance of bills in the House and in the Senate, which amounted to calling for President Bush to blockade Iran, an act of war, okay?
03:29:12.000Now, traditionally, when the Israelis draft this kind of legislation, they put the word out and a hundred representatives, you know, co-sponsor the thing, like, you know, like before you could say Jack Robinson, okay?
03:29:28.000Grassroots folks inundated their representatives with calls, with emails, with taxes and everything else and got them thinking.
03:29:37.000And actually some of the co-sponsors withdrew their sponsorship of that bill because they were afraid that indeed the president would be encouraged, here's Congress telling him, to make an act of war on Iran.
03:29:51.000I think they also didn't want to fall victim to what I call the Hillary Clinton factor.
03:29:56.000You know, Hillary actually thought it would be a smart political move when she voted for the war against Iraq.
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03:33:54.000Hillary Clinton was a bit of a warmonger against Iran.
03:33:56.000I mean, she pretty much said everything was on the table.
03:33:59.000I want him to finish up his point on that.
03:34:01.000And then I want to get his take on this coming international crisis that people like Joe Biden, Colin Powell, and now a key member of the Pentagon Advisory Panel are talking about.
03:34:32.000I'll just finish up by saying that it was a grassroots effort, but many of the congressmen who actually had co-sponsored the bill withdrew that co-sponsorship.
03:34:44.000I think it wasn't altogether altruistic.
03:34:47.000I think they were thinking about two years from now, when they're running again, and there's a wider war still, and they voted for it.
03:34:55.000What I call the Hillary Clinton effect would set in.
03:34:58.000You'll recall that back in October 2002, She thought it was the politically smart thing to do, to vote for a war.
03:35:06.000Turned out to derail her attempt to be president.
03:35:09.000It will derail the attempts of others to be representatives or senators if they voted for a wider war.
03:35:15.000And that's why the whole thing was squashed.
03:35:18.000This is the first time in recent memory that I've seen a grassroots effort able to defeat legislation not only proposed by, but drafted by AIPAC.
03:35:30.000And the last thing, of course, is the financial crisis.
03:35:33.000I think everybody kind of realizes that we're running out of money.
03:35:36.000We're spending billions in Iraq and Afghanistan every week.
03:35:41.000So where do we get the money to get involved in a war with Iran, which is not at all like Iraq or Afghanistan, but rather a very, very strong country with lots of armed forces that dwarf
03:35:59.000So do you think there's a chance of this international crisis that Biden and Powell and other people in the Pentagon are now talking about in the first months of his presidency, if he gets in?
03:36:14.000Well, Joe Biden is not one of my favorites.
03:36:17.000He kind of runs off the mouth without thinking about what he's going to say.
03:36:20.000And we're also dealing again here with the political rhetoric rather than reality.
03:36:27.000My guess is that Biden was just trying to draw a parallel between Obama and JFK.
03:36:43.000I apologize for the senior moment here.
03:36:49.000It's always politically good to compare your candidate with John Kennedy for how much people have continuing respect, including myself.
03:36:58.000And we all know, at least those of us old as I am, that Kennedy was confronted.
03:37:03.000He was young and he was confronted by Khrushchev.
03:37:06.000He was actually confronted by the CIA.
03:37:09.000He was confronted by our military when they decided to go through with that Bay of Pigs foolishness and then expected Kennedy to bail him out by sending the Air Force in to save these guys.
03:37:22.000And so he was beset by all kinds of challenges, not only from Khrushchev in Vienna in May of 1961, but also the Bay of Pigs before that.
03:37:33.000And, you know, there was the Berlin, the trouble over Berlin access and everything else.
03:37:39.000My guess, and it's only a guess, is that what Biden was referring to is, look, you know, Kennedy, initially braced and shocked by all this, came through, and even when the challenge to us in Cuba with the Russians sending missiles down there, when that happened, He was able to handle that in a cool and collected way, but a strong way, and he made the Russians back down.
03:38:03.000That's the memory most of us have of KFK, but I think it's nothing more than that.
03:38:07.000I don't think Biden has any special matter of fact.
03:38:30.000I think just, first of all, I want to make one comment about what they're saying about if Barack will be tested.
03:38:37.000I think they realize they need to warn everybody and what they're going to stage is more false flag terrorism, but they need to brainwash the people and spill it in their minds first.
03:38:46.000And the one disagreement I have is about some footage that was used in a film, and better footage could have been used.
03:38:54.000I happen to personally know the guys from thethepentacon.com, and they actually have even newer testimony other than the two Pentagon police officers on site at the Citco that said the plane came in a different route on 9-11 than what the government's official fairy and they actually have even newer testimony other than the two Pentagon And they have Lloyd the cab driver now.
03:39:49.000We interviewed the first guy with a camera on the scene, Bob Pugh, where you saw his footage all over the AP.
03:39:54.000I just think that that issue is just, it's more of, you know, we already know they allowed whatever to happen at the Pentagon to happen.
03:40:01.000I mean, that was something I've discussed with you years ago, Ray, is that Norm Mineta now, on six or seven different occasions, speaks about with, you know, whatever hit the Pentagon, we had about twenty Hey.
03:40:55.000Right now I'm looking at Infowars.com, and he's got something on the right that says, listen to the Alex Jones Show live on your cell phone.
03:41:14.000I mean, when you literally have a staff, and I'm not part of that staff, I'm a staff of one, but when you have a staff like Alex of ten people and two of those guys work in the newsroom and they're also your main editors, I mean, they're also your main cameraman, it is tough to do everything, but we do need your help.
03:41:31.000Alright, let's jump to yet another call.
03:41:53.000And I know Alex Jones had Chief Osvedo, you know, on about that.
03:41:58.000He was saying how he wants to have a dialogue and engage the public.
03:42:00.000But, you know, we've been trying to contact him for the last four months.
03:42:03.000So what we were going to do was on Halloween night at 9 o'clock on 4th and LaVaca, We're in a state of protest.
03:42:09.000We're trying, you know, get his air and get him to actually come down here and explain how that program is supposed to prevent drunk driving, but it doesn't prevent it at all.
03:42:16.000Okay, so what time is that going to take place?
03:42:18.000It's going to be at 9 o'clock on Friday, on Halloween night.
03:42:34.000Hey, listen, Mr. McGovern, I was going to ask you, and correct me if I'm wrong, did you mention that you were slightly dismayed by the fact that Hillary didn't get the nomination?
03:42:45.000Not dismayed, just really, really, really, really, really happy that someone who did something crass for political purpose And as a result, 4,200 U.S.
03:42:59.000servicemen are killed, that it turned out to be just the opposite of what she expected, the war turned sour, and the person who was against the war from the beginning won the nomination.
03:43:11.000That should be an object lesson to all people who make important decisions based on their ambitions to be president or whatever.
03:43:19.000Well, I certainly agree that to see Hillary go down is a good thing, and that is a victory if that's the case.
03:43:28.000My thing is a little bit larger point.
03:43:30.000I was left dumbfounded because I guess I had become intellectually lazy that Hillary was going to be given the nomination, and we would just continue as we had because I figured if Bush was going to create this police state, If he's going to leave it, he's going to leave it to someone that's going to continue on that thing.
03:43:45.000And I think while we were all sleeping, and maybe you could speak to this, or maybe you disagree, that this thing that Tarpley talks about, I used to think he was a windbag, really, but I got to listen to him.
03:43:54.000This whole Obama thing and the fascism thing, he's on to it.
03:43:57.000And I think that maybe we've sleptwalked through this, and we're going to get a dictator that everybody loves, which is way more scary than one that's hated.
03:44:17.000But I do, unfortunately, I mean, I differ from Mr. McGovern, and I do see him bringing in more globalization.
03:44:23.000I did not like his speech in Berlin again.
03:44:25.000I mean, a million-and-a-half-man youth brigade talking about global citizenship.
03:44:31.000seems to be on the wrong side of the coin on the carbon tax debate and i i think a lot of people are going to love them like i said i i disagree with tarpley where he says that obama isn't that well spoken and he stutters and stammers i don't see that much at all and i watch him in extended periods of time i see him as a confident man who can look you in the eye or eight well and he is good with his hands and his head motion i i mean he's very good at answering questions and seeming credible and smart so you know you know i i don't see that you want to speak to that
03:45:01.000mister mcgovern what do you think i mean obviously you're in support of well you have to compare to what sort of thing and they're quite right we're gonna have to wait and see but i'm less concerned about the global aspects that seem to trouble so many people
03:45:19.000If adopting a global perspective means going back and realizing that the new guidelines for war, for example, was set up after World War II and resulted in the Charter of the United Nations, which prohibits any country from conducting a preventive attack or a quote preemptive end quote attack of the kind that Bush and Cheney have done.
03:45:49.000You're not allowed to attack another country unless there's an imminent threat to your country and there was nobody argues there was an imminent threat.
03:45:58.000This proof that they could change not only international law as as contained in the UN Charter But national law, because as you know, once the Senate approves such a charter, and it did something like 95 to 2, once the Senate approves it, it becomes law of the land.
03:46:15.000And so a war of aggression is just not a really good thing to do, and to be Obama is focusing in on this kind of thing, that we would have a modicum of respect for the law.
03:46:25.000Well, I had my hats off to that kind of perspective.
03:46:28.000Alright, let's jump to Ryan in Kentucky.
03:46:33.000Let's talk about the recent news, the public health emergency for anthrax, botulism, and smallpox until 2015, and how that could possibly play in the future.
03:46:45.000And also, on how the Coast Guard is actually the agency in charge of a biotech or a pandemic flu release.
03:46:55.000Well, to be honest, I don't really know much about this new warning.
03:46:59.000Maybe you could send that over to Aaron at InfoWars.com.
03:47:02.000I mean, again, Some things slip through the cracks here.
03:48:08.000We cannot stay there legally past the 31st of December.
03:48:13.000Uh, we will stay past the 31st of December, but we will incur the opprobrium of the whole world and the Iraqis.
03:48:23.000So it's just a matter of time, and it's just a matter of setting the timetable for withdrawal.
03:48:30.000Now, if we linger on like we did in Saigon and Bayernsphere and South Vietnam, then it's going to be a case of picking up the residual American presence off the rooftops of the billion-dollar embassy we just created there in the Green Zone, and it's going to be a horror.
03:49:00.000So all we have to do is disavow any intention to grab more than our share of the oil, disavow any intention to build permanent military bases, And just say, okay, you can take this for real, international community.
03:49:18.000And then and only then, you know, the Arab League countries, India, Pakistan, the West Europeans, they'll come in behind us and help us exit as gracefully as we can.
03:49:28.000Because they like us, they all hate us by now, but they're interested, they're more interested in stability in that area than we are.
03:49:35.000And of course, they're also interested in getting a portion of the oil.
03:49:40.000It's just a matter of whether we linger for two, three, four more years and take the kinds of casualties that we've had since the surge, or whether we, in a more enlightened way, say, okay, Malachy, we understand the pressures you're under.
03:49:53.000We're not going to press to stay any longer than you want us, and just help us exit in as graceful a way as is possible.
03:49:59.000That's the answer, and for those who, you know, think that we have to stay there to referee a civil war between the sunni and shia i mean that that just doesn't parse for me i don't i don't want one american young man or woman to perish because we're referring referring a civil war and that's what pretty much what it sounds right now i'm with you there ray you know you just talked about uh the oil
03:50:25.000and i was just wondering uh your opinion on whether or not you know this current economic crisis is going to continue to drop the price of oil by the barrel How is this going to affect the oil industry?
03:50:35.000Do you think that they're just going to subside on their massive profits they've taken in the last four years for a little while?
03:50:42.000Do you think they're doing this to maybe make the economic crisis a little less worse?
03:51:08.000Now, the problem remains, because, you know, as I've said to countless audiences, one of the most important factoids in the international situation is that the world is running out of oil.
03:51:20.000And, you know, so in a very real sense, you could look at the attack on Iraq Alright, I do have to let you go.
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03:55:33.000All right, in the last few minutes, I'm just going to run through some calls here.
03:56:01.000And now, everywhere I look, I can see things that Alex is talking about, he's been speaking about for months, and I'm trying to tell people.
03:56:11.000Well, what other videos do you have out there?
03:56:15.000I mean, it's one thing to step up to somebody and talk to them.
03:56:18.000You know, you can get a light to start to switch on, but when you hand them an info bomb like the movie that, you know, No End in Sight that brought you out, maybe you should be making copies of that, or Iraq for Sale, or my films, Loose Change, Final Cut, Fabled Enemies, Alex's films, Endgame.
03:56:34.000First, you have to educate yourself and get the Then I always tell people the next level is to set up a little burner, something that you can copy this information to, and then, you know, get a point of interest with somebody.
03:56:46.000In other words, an agreement point, somewhere where you can relate to them, and then hand off the DVD.
03:56:51.000That's how you're going to reach the masses.
03:56:55.000I did notice a couple of weeks ago in Glasgow, where I live, a private car with a kind of rig on the roof, like a roof rack type thing, but there was this big object sticking up from it.
03:57:10.000And it really resembled the machines they use in New York, the sound detectors.
03:57:17.000Oh yeah, well what those are, and I thank you for the call because I got a couple other ones, those aren't sound detectors, those are sound wave weapons and they're using those not only in domestic cases with the National Guard like they did at the DNC and the RNC in 2004, but they're now using it for military applications and when they point it at you and fire it literally feels like you're Whole body is aflame and you just want to move the quickest possible.
03:57:40.000There's different levels, different frequencies.
03:57:43.000You know, it can go further, it can be lighter.
03:58:05.000Ah, yeah, quite, quite quickly, um, the Status of Forces Agreement is dead in the water, according to what I've read.
03:58:12.000The Iraqi representatives know that it's political poison, and with this not being ratified, it's like, uh, basically, we can't stay there without this agreement.
03:58:24.000Without our forces being subject to their law, in other words, you know, you rape or murder somebody, we lock you up and we put you on trial.
03:58:33.000Yeah, but that seems to me like it's going to be political rhetoric.
03:58:35.000I don't think there's going to be any nuts behind that at all.
03:58:38.000Just like Ray McGovern says, we're not leaving at the end of January.