Alex Jones talks about the crisis at Citibank and the impending collapse of JP Morgan Chase and the possibility of microchip implants in video games. Big Brother? Big Government? Big Corporations? Big Business? Big Money? Big Lies? Big Conspiracy? Alex Jones answers it all.
00:01:00.000I mean, it was less than six months ago that they started talking about that they were going to have problems, and then I think it was two weeks after that that they said they were going to need the bailout, and these packages were put forth.
00:01:11.000some people in Congress stood up to them at first, and then they were threatened with martial law and bamboozled by Obama.
00:01:19.000Some of these guys were actually told by Obama that if he was elected, he would make sure that this money is going to go towards mortgages and the people.
00:01:43.000To create one-stop shopping for financial services, its chief executive, Vikram Pandit, may be running out of time to turn the company around.
00:01:51.000It'll probably be absorbed by Chase Manhattan.
00:01:54.000Give Rockefellers a little bit more power.
00:01:56.000I could definitely see that happening.
00:01:57.000CNBC's Charles Gasparno reported Wednesday that Pandit is coming under increasing pressure from the bank's Giants board and from the federal government for quick results.
00:02:29.000There were a few others that did speak out against the bailout.
00:02:33.000But when Kucinich, you know what, I want you to pull up the Kucinich Federal Reserve as Federal Express.
00:02:40.000That's just a golden couscous line right there.
00:02:46.000By the way, I believe in the second hour, top of the second hour, we're going to have Michael Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com on.
00:02:53.000We're going to be doing that via webcam, so all you PrisonPlanet.tv subscribers can tune in and see that live via the web.
00:03:02.000You know, a little later on, I guess I'll introduce the story now.
00:03:05.000I want to talk about human microchips, and I've been talking about this For quite some time.
00:03:11.000But one of the positions I've taken is that I don't think it's going to be like, oh, they're going to put microchips in you forcibly, at least not at first.
00:03:18.000I don't think they're going to line everybody up.
00:03:23.000And I've always thought that the easiest way to do this was to go after your children, your kids, the teenagers, people like myself who are into technology.
00:03:33.000Who like to sit down and play Halo or Mortal Kombat or video games in general.
00:03:40.000And I always thought that the next-gen systems would try and incorporate microchip technology and this was reported, what was this, December?
00:03:49.000So over a month ago I noticed this so I just remembered it today and I wanted to print it out.
00:03:53.000Interested in microchip implants for gaming?
00:09:22.000President Bush says this is not the main thing that the administration should be Worrying about the most important job I have had and the most important job the next president is going to have is to protect the American people from another attack.
00:09:37.000And of course that was Bush yesterday on Larry King, but I have other video of it all over, where he basically says that the next administration is going to do the same thing.
00:09:47.000Newsweek is promoting how Obama shouldn't give up any of the executive powers that were given to him under the Bush and Cheney administration.
00:11:59.000Well, let's just start off by saying it's a huge problem You know when you get into college, I guess it gets a little more blurry I mean these are 18 year olds they're adults when you when you meet them But these are kids that you've known sometimes since they were in kindergarten and smaller school districts Okay, so at the very least I think that teachers that you know have affairs with their students 18 or otherwise should be fired and Under 18 they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
00:12:28.000I Don't think that's too much to ask it happens a lot more than you would think and now that the court has okayed This is out of AAP, Washington State law does not bar teachers from having Consensual sex with 18 year old students and appeals court ruled Tuesday in dismissing a case against a former high school teacher Unbelievable.
00:12:46.000Of course, the teacher had three kids, you know, and a wife.
00:12:55.000And chances are that this was taking place before she was 18. Just my two cents.
00:13:01.000We're going to take your calls after 30 minutes, and then remember, at the top of the second hour, we're going to have Michael Rivero on PrisonPlanet.tv via webcam.
00:13:09.000I really want to get his take on the Obama I don't And
00:13:43.000yesterday I heard him on his radio program saying that he was already unhappy with a lot of the picks.
00:14:58.000It shows you how degraded the entire society is, when that's one of the top stories.
00:15:04.000And yeah, she's being bashed in the media, but just the fact that somebody's willing to pay millions and millions of dollars for that should let you know that there are sickos out there that are willing to pay even more for child snuff films or even worse, you know, to be with a child, Barney Frank, you know, and then still stay into Congress and push the bailout, you know.
00:15:31.000I mean, when you're running an underage male brothel out of your home through your prostitute boyfriend, and then you threaten Congress, when it becomes public, that if they don't back off, you're gonna out everybody.
00:15:45.000I mean, I don't think this is the type of guy we should be listening to.
00:15:48.000I don't think we should be, you know, listening to the types of guys and administrations that plant other, you know, male prostitutes in the White House.
00:15:59.000And have them pose as members of the media, fake right-wing blogs under assumed names, and then, you know, be on 4 or 5, you know, a.m. tours of the White House.
00:16:23.000Boy, those reporters are pretty dumb when they want to be, huh?
00:16:28.000You know, that's why we need your help here.
00:16:31.000And right now, Tyranny Crusher 1 is over the $50,000 mark on eBay.
00:16:38.000This is the last day that you're going to be able to bid on it.
00:16:41.000I think it's about 13 hours away from total doneness.
00:16:46.000Now, there's probably going to be a lot of fake bids on there because people think they're funny.
00:16:52.000You know, people want to hurt this operation.
00:16:55.000And, you know, the guys that are running it aren't the most savvy on eBay, so they don't know how to just immediately block somebody when it's obviously a fake bid.
00:17:03.000You know, if you've got two rating or a one rating, you're not for real.
00:18:20.000And then as soon as it started going public, what did we do?
00:18:22.000We went in, we got him, we treated him like the enemy.
00:18:24.000As soon as he tried to really get under the grips of United States control, he held a couple summits with other South American leaders and basically was saying, you know, how can we get away from these guys?
00:18:41.000And the U.S. didn't like that and now he's been demonized and he's been held for about 16 months longer Then, uh, then his sentence commanded.
00:18:53.000But they're asking what should they do with him.
00:18:55.000Well, number one, they probably never want to let this guy speak in a public forum again because he knows too many of the American players.
00:19:04.000I'm surprised they haven't killed him.
00:19:07.000In fact, have we ever seen Noriega on television ever in any type of trial or hearing since they got him in the 80s?
00:19:16.000You know, I'd love someone to call me in and call into the show and let me know, because I don't think we have.
00:19:22.000Noriega was captured in Panama by U.S. military forces, completing his prison sentence for drug trafficking and money laundering in September of 2007, but remains in prison until the courts can decide where he should go.
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00:24:20.000You know, I want to get McGovern's take on Robert Gates sticking around for at least another year and the movement of troops over into Afghanistan.
00:24:30.000So, you know, I could see McGovern almost being pro that move of putting troops in Afghanistan.
00:24:36.000You know, buying into the fact that we have to have more of a stronghold there, but I think we should be getting out of the Middle East altogether.
00:24:43.000I think anybody with half a brain who realizes what's really going on in that region of the world, them trying to build a Eurasian Union, much like the North American Union here, only they're trying to get the North American Union,
00:25:19.000Hey, um, have you seen the January's edition of Newsweek where it says the new global elite and it has Barack Obama in the center of that portrait?
00:25:28.000You know, I was looking at the cover there.
00:25:30.000I was looking for maybe some Masonic and cultic symbols because, you know, after all, the new global elite.
00:25:38.000There's two big globes above Barack Obama, the eastern hemisphere and the western hemisphere.
00:25:44.000And the decorations they use, if you look at it from a distance, it's a perfect owl, like Moloch.
00:25:51.000He's the center, his face is the beak, his body is the mouth, and the globes are the eyes, and if you look at the decorations on the page, it's the shape of an owl.
00:26:01.000It has the feathers, it has that diagonal sort of shape of an owl.
00:26:05.000Very interesting, I thought, haven't heard anyone put that out.
00:26:08.000Well, if you can get us an image of it, I have not seen the latest Newsweek, this is the cover you said?
00:27:21.000And, you know, they fly me with helicopters and they do all that stuff.
00:27:27.000At one time they had a, they had camped about me here.
00:27:30.000You know, they brought in trailers down the road from me into a park and they were just all over my property with automatic weapons and all that stuff.
00:27:39.000Well, why wouldn't they SWAT team you when you're trying to get the message out of truth?
00:27:46.000They just, uh, they would get off my property and take the fire off guns, or off to the back of my property and fire off these automatic weapons.
00:27:55.000And then they'd fire me from time to time with, you know, these jets, which are, they're amazing to me.
00:28:04.000They'll fly right down to where my bunker is at, which is a distance from my house.
00:28:09.000It'll take a stop and turn around and fly right back out again.
00:28:13.000How they do that is beyond my imagination.
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00:34:26.000The constitution of the military draft should be considered, and has always been an option on the table.
00:34:34.000A Pentagon spokesman frankly rejected the idea today, saying that the military is giving the idea, quote, absolutely no consideration, unquote.
00:34:44.000But is it time to revive conscription for the first time since Richard Nixon?
00:34:49.000Back to discuss it are Democratic strategist Stephanie Cutter and editor of the Washington Times editorial page, Tony Blankley.
00:34:57.000Tony, it just seemed to me political year.
00:35:00.000Nobody's going to recommend a return to the draft.
00:35:03.000But is the draft a good idea or is a partial draft a good idea?
00:35:09.000It is breaking, according to the Army Chief of Staff, on the basis of two small guerrilla wars.
00:35:16.000Now, is the U.S. Army big enough and strong enough to handle all the commitments this country's got?
00:35:22.000First of all, it's not going to happen on Bush's watch, because there's not time for that debate to occur.
00:35:28.000But the military clearly is not big enough to do the job that's going to be required of it in a world that we live in today and into the foreseeable future.
00:35:39.000All right, right there he says, not going to happen on Bush's watch, because it's not time for that debate yet.
00:35:46.000No, the time has come when we have Obama saying that everybody needs to give a new service, a new sacrifice for the United States of America.
00:35:56.000And now our good buddies at Fox and Friends are now promoting this man's book, which is on the shelves two days ago, a little over a year later.
00:36:50.000We have it in our power not to be in decline, and that's what my book's about.
00:36:54.000I do believe that for the first time in our history, if we don't do a lot of things smart and tough, we could get overwhelmed by the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of radical Islam.
00:37:18.000Yeah, Tony, your book's going to get a lot of attention because there are some controversial, bold suggestions.
00:37:34.000The first one, obviously, that caught my eye was that you were calling for a universal draft, which would mean that all 18-year-olds in America would have to serve for two years.
00:38:54.000And then you're going to have goons like this go, I wish we could keep that same military in the cover story of the regular Newsweek, not the new global elite issue, with Obama and all this symbolism on the cover.
00:39:07.000Is the article we covered here yesterday Obama's Cheney dilemma.
00:39:13.000Oh, you know, we just admitted on Fox News that we torture people in Guantanamo Bay and maybe these powers aren't the best thing ever but Don't worry.
00:39:22.000The Obama administration is gonna use these powers.
00:39:25.000Well, we're not gonna get rid of any of them And that's literally what this three-page article is talking about it's It's probably even more in the magazine Um, but it, you know, it's unbelievable.
00:39:41.000It is a liberal shibboleth that torture doesn't work.
00:39:44.000That suspects will say anything, including lies, to stop the pain.
00:39:49.000But the reality is perhaps less clear.
00:39:57.000I guess, I guess it's not, I guess it's not surprised it was called on this show.
00:40:02.000But, you know, they're like, oh, he's going to have to face these difficult choices, and we really need Obama to face these difficult choices with all these powers, because these powers are important.
00:40:38.000Let me tell you what I recall about all that.
00:40:40.000I was serving in the military at that time.
00:40:44.000Here was somebody, now keep in mind, I've studied this thing, the globalism, since about 1983 is when I had a look at things and started looking at things oddly.
00:40:57.000I can remember looking, watching NBC News Uh, the news media ramped up on him about, uh, ten days prior to their invasion, which means troops were already getting ready to go down there.
00:41:09.000Uh, it was an evening, uh, a weekday evening, uh, maybe a Monday evening.
00:41:14.000He was on, uh, they showed him, uh, behind a podium giving a speech to his people, and he was waving the saber around.
00:41:20.000You may recall seeing that, and he said, I'm going to tell the world what George Bush is about, who he really is.
00:41:26.000He got up the next morning, turned on the television, there were 27,000 troops on the ground.
00:41:35.000No, you've never heard anything out of him.
00:41:37.000They've stuck him in a prison in Miami somewhere.
00:41:38.000You've never heard him up in front of a judge telling his side of the story.
00:41:42.000Nothing. That's how far back they put him.
00:41:45.000Yeah, so what do you think is going to happen now?
00:41:47.000I mean, France is asking for his extradition.
00:41:49.000They're claiming that the Geneva Conventions entitled him to this.
00:41:53.000Of course, his liars are saying, hey, he just served his sentence and this is a non-wartime And he served his sentence, so why isn't he being extradited home?
00:42:04.000Of course they don't want his story out.
00:42:05.000What do you think will come of Manuel?
00:42:08.000I think that he'll probably go to Europe, be let go there.
00:42:13.000Just like other people it's happened to in the past.
00:42:16.000He'll be in France, they'll turn him loose, you'll never hear anything about him because the news media will not cover him.
00:42:21.000He'll be, as I said, given some sidebar status in the media, and you'll never hear from him, period.
00:42:30.000You might hear something about him in the European media.
00:42:32.000Most of the people here in this country only speak a single language anyway, so it won't matter anymore.
00:42:38.000And besides that, it's 20-some years in the past.
00:44:12.000What was their excuse for coming here?
00:44:13.000Well, they said that there were known felons there.
00:44:16.000Okay. And the church, it's a registered, you know, church and everything, is run by a kind of radical local guy and it was just basically, as it turns out, just a shakedown to scare him.
00:44:27.000He was running for Congress at the time.
00:44:30.000Really? So nobody actually got charged with anything?
00:44:32.000Nobody got charged with anything at all.
00:44:35.000Wow. They took all of our information, took all of our IDs, made us all come out of the house.
00:45:31.000Yeah, just check Chico Riots and you'll see.
00:45:34.000Well, we're definitely going to check that out.
00:45:35.000Maybe we can have Aaron do a story on it.
00:45:37.000Yeah, look here, it doesn't stop there.
00:45:40.000After the riot, the Chico Police Association posted on YouTube a propaganda video saying how Proposition 215 causes crime and how they need more police officers because of the local riot.
00:46:34.000Exactly. But what they did here in Washtenaw County is you owned a cow in Indiana.
00:46:43.000And then when you paid for the milk, you didn't buy the milk.
00:46:47.000You were just paying for the feeding and care of the cow.
00:46:50.000You got the milk and the cheese for free.
00:46:53.000And they got raided and busted by the USDA because of interstate commerce.
00:47:02.000Well, they'd have been in Michigan, they'd have been alright.
00:47:18.000But because the cows were in Indiana and they crossed state lines, the ICC and the USDA got involved in the whole thing.
00:47:26.000You know, on my way over here, I believe I was listening to the fact that now they're trying to pass a ruling where there'll be a new marking on meat, and no longer will it just be USDA-grade beef.
00:47:38.000It'll be beef from all over, or produce from all over the world, and it'll just have a new sticker on it saying it's other country.
00:47:45.000And if we're going to start shipping in other countries'meat, which I think is a completely insane idea, number one, because it'll kill the farm here, and number two, it probably won't be as healthy, folks.
00:48:51.000I've actually lent out his book to several people to read for themselves to hopefully get them to realize, you know, I mean, a good politician and what a good politician stands for.
00:49:00.000But I was just looking around on YouTube this morning, and I seen this video about Ron Paul and Freemasonry.
00:49:08.000Now, I know there's a lot of disinformation out there, but I try to continue to do more research on All right.
00:49:52.000Yeah, you know, when I see world leaders doing it, you know, when I look at, you know, Tex Marr's information that I plugged earlier today, I give him about, first of all, he comes at it from a massive Christian perspective, you know, I don't think that he is able to come in from a, you know, kind of like a blind perspective.
00:50:10.000He does take the Christian route, but at the other end of it, he does know a lot of these Babylonian symbols, these Masonic symbols, these mystery religions, things that You know, I'm not as familiar with, so I take that stuff with a grain of salt.
00:50:23.000I think there's no doubt when you see somebody like Pat Robertson on the cover of Time Magazine throwing up the bear claw that he's throwing up the bear claw.
00:50:31.000You know, and I think a lot of these George Bush and family rocking the hook'em horns at the inauguration ceremony ain't the hook'em horns.
00:50:40.000I don't think, you know, Ron Paul is on the team of the Masons.
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00:52:31.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:55:36.000Hey, I was just playing in Photoshop with that download from Newsweek, and I did some pixelization distortion.
00:55:47.000I'll send it to you an email but it definitely has the well it's got the big worlds on the top right hand side I saw it it's also it's a mirror image from the middle which is kind of popular right now in t-shirts and even you know artwork and you know again I mean just the outline of Obama himself you know, I mean, they're promoting this.
00:56:21.000I just don't like how somebody who's unproven, somebody who is a state senator, For most of his career.
00:56:29.000Somebody who comes out in 2004, gives the Democratic National Convention keynote address.
00:56:34.000He's then put into the actual Senate, and he serves less than four years in the actual Senate in 2007, is when he actually, and believe me, it was planned before 2007, he was going to be running for president, but he announces it in 2007, and he wins.
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01:01:19.000As the market crashes, I see more and more visitors, more and more people actually listening to what we have to say.
01:01:26.000And I really want to talk to you about what you think is going to be happening in the next 6 to 12 months in this country.
01:01:33.000Well, unfortunately, I think we're heading into a very, very dark time economically and politically and what you said about more and more people tuning into the alternative media, Genesis Communication Network, our various websites and the blogosphere is a continuation of a trend as more and more American people and basically around the world come to understand that the corporate Media is really a disinformation channel.
01:01:59.000They're turning to the alternative media to try and find out what's going on.
01:02:02.000In a lot of ways, this mirrors what we saw leading up to the decline and fall of the former Soviet Union, where the Russian people became very dissatisfied with what they were getting from Pravda and Izvestia.
01:02:14.000They began to realize there was a lot of lying and deception going on.
01:02:18.000They created their own populist media, the Samizdat, to get information around.
01:02:23.000And ultimately, Where do you think all this bailouts going?
01:02:38.000I mean, we had Bernanke yesterday saying, look, we need more bailouts.
01:02:42.000Before that, Paulson said, the bailouts that have come through, we're going to have more banks closed down anyway.
01:02:47.000And we still have not heard what the Obama stimulus package is going to be.
01:02:51.000We're now six days away from him coming into office.
01:02:55.000I mean, personally, I'm not too thrilled with his Chief of Staff pick, Rahm Emanuel.
01:02:58.000This is a guy that's calling for mandatory conscription of 18- to 25-year-olds.
01:03:03.000So, I mean, when you saw his speech and he said, you know, this is going to be a time of great sacrifice and service for you, the people, do you think that that's in the cards?
01:03:11.000Do you think that we might have conscription?
01:03:13.000And where do you think all this banking mess is going to go?
01:03:16.000Well, as far as the conscription is concerned, it should be very obvious that Israel is trying to kick off a major regional war in the Mideast in which the United States will find itself mired in once again young American men and young American women I think?
01:03:31.000to be playing bullet catchers for israel's expansionist policy so that's definitely in the works ram emmanuel is very much in favor of that he's very supportive of israel uh he's one of these individuals where we have to ask where do their true loyalties lie and if it's not with
01:03:46.000the united states why isn't he in such a position of power as far as the economy and the bailouts uh it is it's it's running absolutely out of control but you need to understand that the whole point of the bailouts isn't so much where the money is being spent it is merely that it is being borrowed and and created because if you look at the way our federal reserve operates money does not exist until somebody is there to borrow it.
01:04:12.000When you sign that loan document at the bank, the bank literally creates the money you've borrowed out of thin air.
01:04:18.000That's how the Federal Reserve System works.
01:04:20.000So what happened this last year is that the American people prudently Prudently stopped their borrowing.
01:04:27.000They slowed down because as our manufacturing jobs left to other countries, Americans realized we don't have the money to pay these debts, so we're not going to borrow as much.
01:04:37.000We're not going to use our credit cards.
01:04:38.000We're not going to buy the bigger, flashier car.
01:04:42.000So the government is borrowing on our behalf.
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01:06:24.000investigators believe that there are Israelis, again, very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S., I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:06:34.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:08:17.000And a couple of other key appointments that we should really mention in the Obama administration that have occurred over the past couple of days.
01:08:25.000The fact that John Kerry is on board as the head of the Foreign Relations Committee.
01:08:32.000And, you know, some people might think that's the greatest thing since breakfast.
01:08:35.000I don't think it's the greatest thing ever.
01:08:37.000I mean, obviously, you know, Kerry was a front in 2004 to throw the election to Bush.
01:08:42.000I mean, he won the election, he didn't demand a recount, he didn't demand they even really count the votes at all.
01:08:47.000And then his new climate czar, his pick is global warming czar, because we need a czar for global warming.
01:08:55.000Carol M. Browner, one of the 14 leaders of the Socialist Group Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for global governance.
01:09:03.000Of course, when the Washington Times printed this article and people got wind of it, it was taken off within hours.
01:09:09.000Really not impressing me so much with the cabinet.
01:09:12.000I mean, he actually cracked jokes during the debate that he was going to have Hillary Clinton on his squad.
01:09:17.000Then him and Hillary snuck away together in DC.
01:09:23.000Snuck away together in DC on the weekend of the Bilderberg meeting.
01:09:26.000And Gergen actually talked about that meeting.
01:09:29.000You know, they said there was a secret meeting.
01:09:30.000First it was at Clinton's house, then later they said it was at Dianne Feinstein's.
01:09:35.000My guess is that it was probably with members of the Bilderberg Group.
01:09:38.000I kind of want to get your opinion on that too, Michael.
01:09:41.000But Gergen called it and said that they were probably talking about what her position was going to be, whether it was going to be Secretary of State or possibly somewhere else in the administration.
01:09:49.000What do you think about these backdoor secret meetings with Hillary Clinton?
01:09:53.000Do you think that they were over at the Bilderberg Group?
01:10:01.000I think at the point where Hillary realized that she was not going to be able to win the nomination, she wanted to make the best deal for herself with Barack Obama and held over his head the nuclear option of getting her supporters to back John McCain.
01:10:17.000And I think up until the point that McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, it was a credible threat.
01:10:24.000But I think John McCain erred on that, or maybe he was just looking at the way the country is headed and decided at the last second maybe he didn't want to be president after all.
01:10:33.000And I said, let's get a vice president that will end my candidacy graciously and I'll take the rest of my campaign war chest and retire quietly.
01:10:43.000Yeah, there's obviously been a lot of deal-making going on.
01:10:46.000Barack Obama obviously has made a lot of deals, which is why we have so many of the old Clinton cronies showing up in his administration.
01:10:55.000And it is very distressing for people who wanted to listen to his message of change that we can believe in because we're not seeing change.
01:11:04.000Yeah, the guy in the Oval Office is different, but everything around him basically harkens back to the 1990s.
01:11:09.000And I'm very distressed by Hillary Clinton coming out and saying that she's just not going to negotiate with Hamas because, like it or not, Hamas is the elected government of another country and that's the Secretary of State's job, is to talk to the elected government of other countries.
01:11:26.000And Hillary's starting out saying, I'm not going to do my job, let's just drop bombs and get it over with.
01:12:35.000And so he goes there now after the Mumbai attacks.
01:12:38.000You know, lead back to an ISI asset, a CIA asset, and the governments of India are openly saying that Pakistani intelligence was involved, so he has to go over there.
01:12:48.000I don't think that we really want to bomb Pakistan, although that's been in the news lately too.
01:12:52.000You think we're going to bomb Pakistan?
01:12:54.000I think we're probably going to go into Pakistan or we're going to support India going into Pakistan because if you look at the geography of the region, you have got Afghanistan to the north which is pretty much under US control nominally.
01:13:08.000You have India which is very much an ally of the United States.
01:13:12.000For China to be able to send pipelines through to Middle East oil, they must go through Pakistan.
01:13:18.000So if we can turn Pakistan into a war zone, then that cuts China off from one of the resources This is
01:13:53.000Prevent Russia from supporting Iran, but when that war didn't work out so well I think that's when the push to invade Iran began to wane when they couldn't keep Russia out of the region So they shifted over to Pakistan now Israel's talking about a bombing attack on Iran's nuclear infrastructure again It's definitely a lot of chaos and as I like to tell my own listeners We're in a very awkward stage in our planet's history and Where all of our immediate future is basically being determined by whichever world leader is the least
01:14:23.000mentally stable, and we've got some real nutcases in power right now.
01:14:46.000I mean, They're talking about them being the new big enemy, and I think that just one type of terror event, either here or in Europe, being blamed on Pakistan could be the catalyst to send, you know, our forces or NATO forces or UN forces in there, and that would be a total and complete nightmare.
01:15:04.000That might be, you know, most people are saying the Iran conflict was what was going to spark, you know, World War III, but a conflict with Pakistan could very well do the same.
01:15:28.000The U.S., I think, has decided they can't do it because they can't keep Russia from intervening militarily.
01:15:33.000So now they're looking at Pakistan, if for no other reason than to block off China's access to Middle Eastern oil and force them to come do business with the United States for their petroleum.
01:15:43.000And, uh, you know, again, it's that chessboard around the oil fields that's really in play.
01:15:49.000You think that Russia is unhappy with its place in the world?
01:15:52.000I mean, obviously there was a play, like you said, in that South Ossetia-Georgian conflict to see what kind of a world power they still were.
01:16:00.000Do you feel like they feel like they don't want to be a second world nation in this global order?
01:16:04.000I mean, that's how I feel like the play is, you know?
01:16:06.000I mean, you had Putin and Bush sitting next to each other At the Olympics, as this conflict's going on, I don't think that Putin is very happy with the way that he was treated, and I don't think that he's very happy with, you know, the U.S. basically trying to build a North American Union here at home, and I really do believe trying to build a Eurasian Union right around the corner from their home.
01:16:28.000Well, I don't think it's a question of whether Russia wants to be number one or number two.
01:16:32.000I think Russia, certainly looking at what Putin was doing right after he got rid of the oligarchs, I think he wants peace and prosperity for his people because his own political fortunes are dependent on that.
01:16:44.000But he lives, unfortunately, in a time when there are some very belligerent nations who see their own fortunes greatly improved by major warfare.
01:16:52.000I mean, setting aside for the moment Israel's obvious push for for war in Lebanon, war in Iran, war against Syria, war against Jordan, the list goes on.
01:17:00.000We have in the United States a large number of people who are looking at our economic problems and thinking that a major war at least will disguise the symptoms, give them something to blame it all on.
01:17:11.000I mean, Americans will put up with the lack of food, lack of clothes, lack of fuel if they think there's a war going on and they have to rally around the flag.
01:17:20.000And if you look back at the history of America's participation in major wars, Each one happened just as the United States was dealing with a major depression.
01:17:28.000There was a depression in the early 1900s.
01:17:31.000We got out of that by going into World War I, with that whole deception over the Lusitania.
01:17:36.000We were in the Great Depression just before Roosevelt got us into World War II with the Pearl Harbor deception.
01:17:42.000So now we're in serious economic trouble.
01:17:44.000People are saying, this is a new depression.
01:17:46.000And sure enough, we have the US government that's out there saying, let's kick off a major war and crank up the defense industries and make bombs and just, you know, at least everybody will be distracted from how bad things are because there's a war on and we've got to rally around the flag.
01:18:02.000And it's not going to work this time because first of all, Because of the alternative media, the American people know they're being lied to about these situations.
01:18:10.000They're not going to trust the government's story about any new war.
01:18:13.000Second of all, the United States is not the industrial powerhouse it was for World War I and World War II.
01:18:19.000We can't sustain the kind of manufacturing output it takes to support a major global war.
01:18:26.000And our economy is already in a shambles.
01:18:28.000I think a new major war will be the end of the United States.
01:18:31.000I agree with you and I think what it'll do is restructure us, Canada and Mexico together.
01:18:37.000My fear is, alright, let's say that the dollar totally and completely collapses in the next six months and it's no longer the world reserve currency.
01:18:44.000That alone could probably start some real military conflicts.
01:18:48.000And like you said, we don't have the factories that we once had.
01:18:52.000We can't just take a factory and take the workers there and suspend whatever product they were making because they don't make anything here anymore.
01:18:58.000You know, you can't make weapons in a factory that's not fit to make shoes, because we don't make anything.
01:19:03.000The last thing we made here were cars, and that's about to go under as well.
01:19:08.000I mean, we're spread so thin militarily, is this going to be like the first United States military defeat?
01:19:14.000I mean, people could argue Vietnam and everything, but I'm talking about on a global scale.
01:19:19.000I think it very well could be because if you look at the historical precedent for the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, Rome began to decline when they spread their legions so thin they only had to lose one up in Germany and then they could no longer police their global empire and the little fringe nations began breaking away and the revenues to Rome dropped and Rome sank into debt and collapsed.
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01:25:17.000Do you give any credence to that, Mike?
01:25:19.000Do you think that there's going to be something coming up on the 21st or 22nd?
01:25:22.000I mean, it could just be The announcement of more bank collapses, who knows?
01:25:29.000I'm very hesitant to name a date like the 20th or the 21st and again this gets back to the comment about so many different factions right now each pushing their own agenda and I am certain that there are some people who are thinking that a new 9-11 is going to advance their particular situation.
01:25:46.000They are being balanced by, I hope, a larger majority who are saying that the American people are already suspicious of the first 9-11 and a second one is going to be a very reckless I don't know.
01:25:58.000But again, it's not like the government is operating in a united, monolithic sense.
01:26:06.000There's a lot of different players, and they're all doing what they think is going to be in their own best interests.
01:26:10.000You know, I agree with you there, and, you know, people say, well, why do you keep bringing up 9-11?
01:26:15.000It's because the mainstream media constantly brings up 9-11.
01:26:17.000Today on Fox News, foxnews.com admitted that they torture people at Guantanamo Bay, but of course, the guy they were torturing was a suspect in the 9-11 attacks, and he later confessed that he was involved, so it's okay.
01:26:38.000We've tortured him into confessing, therefore it must be true.
01:26:41.000And then you've had those military tribunals that have made the news in the past couple months of these supposed 9-11 suspects outside of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
01:26:48.000Of course, we'll see nothing more than transcripts.
01:26:51.000about that and people will buy into it you know uh...
01:26:55.000Mickey Rourke just won the Golden Globe for uh...
01:26:58.000the wrestler actually watch it i like the movie i think he actually might even deserve an Oscar for it but then he gets interviewed and what what's the headline it's not all Mickey Rourke wins the global Golden Globe no Mickey Rourke says bush did the right thing after 9/11 to the terrorists Of course, Mickey Rourke is going to weigh in.
01:27:14.000And the sad thing is, Mike, more people are going to listen to him because he's in the movies and on television than are going to listen to you or me, because that's the kind of society we live in.
01:27:23.000Well, I think that was the conventional wisdom a long time ago, but I'm not certain that's true anymore, first of all, because I think thanks be to people like Paris Hilton and her ilk.
01:27:38.000People are realizing that celebrities may look very good and make a very hot weekend, but they're not necessarily really up to date on what's going on.
01:27:46.000And to balance them, of course, you have people like Charlie Sheen and Willie Nelson and Rosie O'Donnell who have laid their careers on the line to speak truth to power.
01:27:55.000And these are being viewed as modern-day heroes and heroines.
01:27:59.000And so I think Mickey Rourke may ultimately in the long run have marginalized himself with that comment.
01:28:07.000But, you know, I just, it leads me to the sheeple-like mentality of people that, you know, they're more interested.
01:28:14.000I mean, Paris Hilton can have how many, like six or seven reality shows, and people still tune in.
01:28:18.000She still makes money on television just being her regular idiotic self.
01:28:23.000And people worship that and glorify it.
01:28:25.000And I think that's why we're in the situation we are with the banks in the Middle East, is because people aren't paying attention.
01:28:31.000I was impressed that most people weren't for the bailout, but when I'd be in a bar and I'd be talking to the local Republican business owner, oh no, man, if we don't have this bailout, we're going to go under.
01:28:43.000It's explaining every single great thing about the bailout that the news media was using as talking points three months ago.
01:28:50.000And now when the news media says, oh my God, we're in the worst economic situation since the Great Depression, they're still saying, well, we need another bailout.
01:29:06.000Well, you have to remember that the Republican Party was actually emailing these talking points out to business owners because I own a small business and I actually got one of these myself.
01:29:15.000And it is simply propaganda because everyone is always debating about who's going to get the tax burden in the next administration.
01:29:21.000So the GOP wanted to keep the tax breaks George Bush gave them.
01:29:25.000The Obama supporters want the tax breaks to go to them this time.
01:29:30.000And what they need to do is unite and say, look, taxes on everybody are too high and we need to back off.
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01:31:17.000Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
01:31:24.000Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
01:31:34.000Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Mornings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
01:31:45.000Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
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01:33:44.000And he's unhappy about what's going on in Gaza.
01:33:47.000And hell, I'm unhappy about what's going on in Gaza.
01:33:50.000The problem with that is, you know, of course he's probably taking the Palestinian side.
01:33:54.000And that automatically demonizes people like myself and Mike that try to point out that the Palestinians aren't really the ones in the wrong here.
01:34:02.000It's Israel that is encroaching on their space.
01:34:04.000They're the ones that have the military on their borders constantly.
01:34:09.000And are one of the main causes of the civil unrest over there.
01:34:12.000But now, Bin Laden has a new audio tape.
01:34:31.000The whole reason for dragging Bin Laden or Bin Laden Lite, in this case, out of the closet is to tar anybody who's speaking against Israel in this situation.
01:34:42.000I mean, the reality is Hamas is the elected government of Palestine.
01:34:45.000Hamas had basically followed the ceasefire for the last six months.
01:34:50.000Israel now admits Hamas was not firing rockets into Israel at the time when Israel broke the ceasefire on November 4th by attacking Gaza.
01:34:59.000So Israel is clearly in the wrong here.
01:35:02.000And again, if you go back to United Nations Resolution 242, Israel is supposed to be out of the occupied territories, not building new settlements and going in and just behaving very rudely.
01:35:13.000So they can't win on points of international law.
01:35:19.000So they're going to drag out bin Laden and use him to basically tarnish anybody who is speaking out for peace.
01:35:24.000The problem with that is that more and more people are well aware that, oh, Well, Osama bin Laden appears to have actually died in December of 2001, and every Osama since then appears to be some permutation of Wag the Dog video production.
01:35:39.000And yeah, they're using the dead guy one more time.
01:35:43.000Yeah, it's unbelievable, and you know, there's a movie out there about Jimmy Carter, and I'm not a huge Jimmy Carter fan, but Jimmy Carter came out with a book not so long ago called Peace, Not Apartheid, and it was all about the Israeli and Palestinian conflict, and there's a documentary that just goes through his book tour, and it's something very palatable for the mainstream, for somebody like your uncle or your aunt or your cousin that doesn't really know about this stuff, but knows who Jimmy Carter is, and I suggest people get that.
01:36:47.000It says, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
01:37:04.000Does this not make conscription illegal?
01:37:18.000Well, yeah, the way they get around that is during the military draft, there's a point where they say, all of you who choose to serve the United States, step forward.
01:37:27.000And they construe this to mean that you are volunteering, therefore the 13th Amendment does not apply.
01:37:33.000But yeah, we have a government that is absolutely ignoring the Constitution, which in my point of thinking, delegitimizes them already, along with all the obvious lies.
01:37:43.000So, and we also need to go back to that little brochure that the FBI has distributed to police departments around America that anybody who's talking about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights needs to be reported as a potential terror suspect.
01:37:57.000So obviously our government really isn't paying attention to the Constitution.
01:38:01.000It's just something, as George Bush says, it's a blank blank piece of paper.
01:38:05.000Absolutely. And, you know, it reminds me of the days that my, uh, my history teacher used to carry a pocket constitution around all the time and he was very proud of this fact and he would whip it out whenever, you know, there was a question.
01:38:16.000He'd say, well, actually, this part of the constitution says that I don't have to do that.
01:38:20.000And now he's supposedly a potential terrorist.
01:38:23.000Geez, I just thought he was trying, someone who was trying to help.
01:38:33.000Good. Hey, listen, I just want to remind the folks out there, you know, about this new administration coming in and what their future plans are for this country.
01:38:44.000And, you know, I'm extremely, I guess, hopeful and optimistic that Obama is not going to end up being who he is.
01:38:51.000You know, everyone fears he might be, but you never really know until, you know, you guys in office and you give him a try and you see what he actually does.
01:38:59.000Sure. But, you know, one thing that I'm really concerned about is, you know, a loss of freedom and a loss of rights in this country.
01:39:05.000And, you know, I mean, how much freedom did we have against the terrorists of 17-17?
01:39:13.000People were actually, you know, on the streets shooting themselves.
01:39:16.000And then we forget that in the 1800s, the British actually came and burned Washington, D.C. and didn't have the Patriot Act.
01:39:23.000We didn't have all of our rights taken away.
01:39:25.000We weren't having our phone calls listened in on and everything else.
01:39:29.000So, you know, I feel like there's a bigger agenda going on.
01:39:33.000You're kind of cutting in and out, so we're going to let you go.
01:39:35.000But I also feel like there's a bigger agenda going on.
01:39:37.000And in fact, the cover story of Newsweek is Obama's Cheney problem.
01:39:42.000And Newsweek is pointing to all these executive powers that the Bush administration has passed over the last eight years.
01:39:47.000But they're making a case that Obama will not misuse these powers, so there's no reason to get rid of them via executive orders.
01:40:03.000I think if Obama really wants to bring about change we can believe in, he has to start reversing many of those executive orders.
01:40:10.000Because this whole idea that, yeah, these orders are dangerous to the liberties of the American people, but trust your leaders, they won't abuse them.
01:40:19.000The whole reason for having a Bill of Rights and a Constitution was the recognition by our founding fathers that People in positions of power are just human beings and they're subject to human frailties and weaknesses, and power attracts the very kind of people who ought not to have it.
01:40:34.000And so, in point of fact, it is dangerous to allow these executive orders to stand.
01:40:39.000And Obama should rescind them all immediately.
01:40:41.000Yeah, I wish that he would rescind them all immediately.
01:40:44.000What really gets me is the tone of the article, where they're defending torture in many cases, where they're saying, You know, it's basically making every excuse in the book to keep these orders, and because it's a new face, it's not a problem.
01:40:57.000No, it's a problem because it gives people in the executive branch an obscene amount of power when we were supposed to have checks and balances in this country.
01:41:06.000That's why there's three branches of government, folks.
01:41:08.000Okay? Judicial, executive, and legislative.
01:41:11.000But the executive has just gotten so out of control with its powers, I mean, the line is not only blurred, it's gone.
01:41:18.000All right, let's go to Todd in Florida.
01:42:12.000It's myspace.com slash Jason Burmess, because Aaron does get quite overwhelmed.
01:42:16.000I do try to read all the messages that I get.
01:42:18.000I may not reply to all of them, but I'd love to see it as well.
01:42:21.000Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much in the open.
01:42:23.000Even, you know, Dobbs, one of the few people that actually reports what's going on in this country, recently did something about the Securities and Prosperities Partnership, and the Obama administration is opening talks again.
01:42:35.000You know, it's just like the Trans-Texas Corridor gets reported last week that it's dead.
01:43:11.000I wanted to thank you and the Lose Change crew for turning me around about three years ago.
01:43:20.000I'm calling from prison camp Iowa State.
01:43:23.000They recently had a protest going on against the Gaza invasion, and yesterday they had it going on in front of the Memorial Union, I guess, and one of the administrators came out and told them, sorry, you can't do that here.
01:43:37.000If you do not move to one of the designated free speech zones, you will be arrested.
01:43:42.000Mike, why don't you talk about these designated free speech zones?
01:43:45.000Because most people think, oh, we have free speech in this country, we can talk about whatever we want, but as soon as we talk about anything that matters in this country, or anything that matters about Israel and Palestine, all of a sudden we don't have those same rights, do we?
01:43:59.000This free speech zone, it's an absolute joke.
01:44:03.000It's a slap in the face of every American who ever died defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights through all the wars we fought up to this point.
01:44:10.000And basically what it means is you have freedom of speech, but the government reserves the right to put you in a special free speech zone, which means you're away from the press, you're away from the public, and you can say whatever you want.
01:44:22.000As long as you're in these places where nobody can hear you.
01:44:25.000And it's a very disingenuous way of handling the situation because the whole point of free speech is that you are to be heard.
01:44:33.000It isn't necessarily the right to speak out what you're saying.
01:44:37.000It is a right to share your thoughts and your ideas with your fellow Americans.
01:44:41.000whether that's in the public square, on TV, in the newspapers, or here on the Internet.
01:45:12.000And this was really born right before the 2004 elections when the Democratic National Convention, the Republican National Conventions were coming to big cities like Boston and New York, and they didn't want a visible protest outside.
01:45:24.000So they create these pens, you know, miles away or two miles away.
01:46:14.000Hey, it's good to hear from you again.
01:46:18.000What do you think about the possibility that there's no country in the world that really isn't bankrupt at this point?
01:46:28.000Well, first of all, hold on before you get there.
01:46:31.000First of all, countries that still make things, that have factories, they're not really bankrupt because they can still make goods and have goods and services in that country.
01:46:41.000Secondly, some countries still have precious metals that are always going to retain value.
01:46:46.000Not so much the countries, but the leaders of those countries and the elites in those countries.
01:46:51.000Silver, gold, platinum, this is stuff that's retained value for thousands of years, so that's not going to go anywhere.
01:46:56.000As far as countries already being bankrupt, What's the debt rate?
01:47:00.000What's the deficit in this country right now, Mike?
01:47:04.000Yeah, it absolutely is, and it's going to be way more than that next year.
01:47:08.000And I think what the caller is talking about is the fact that when you have a monetary system that is based on debt, as we do in the United States with the Federal Reserve, the problem with such a monetary system is that more money is owed than actually exists.
01:47:23.000And so the system will work as long as there's always a new young generation of borrowers coming in at the bottom of the pyramid to prop up the system.
01:47:30.000But what happened here in the United States and is happening around the world is You don't have those new borrowers coming in and so the whole system's beginning to collapse.
01:47:38.000You thought Bernie Madoff had a really ugly pyramid scheme but the entire Federal Reserve System is a pyramid scheme as well because it can only exist and perpetuate as long as there are always more and more borrowers coming in at the bottom of the system to allow the creation of new revenue.
01:47:56.000Alright, let's jump to the next caller.
01:48:02.000I wanted to follow up on something Mike Rivero said about getting around the 13th Amendment, which was true as far as he went.
01:48:14.000Basically, you do volunteer in, I heard this from an old Air Force buddy of mine, the way you get around it, at least in the past, and I think this is still probably valid, when they ask you, alright, everyone who volunteers, you know, take two steps forward or whatever.
01:48:31.000You do an about face and take three steps backwards.
01:48:35.000And probably you're going to have a sergeant in your face for the next 48, 72 hours barking at you and trying to make you feel like you're the scum of the earth.
01:48:45.000But they can't force you to volunteer is the bottom line.
01:48:49.000Yeah, I mean, but the thing is that they're going to file charges against you.
01:48:56.000They're not going to file charges against you.
01:48:57.000They may try to get you into some kind of other...
01:49:02.000Other, you know, conscientious objector type status and do some kind of charity work, but they can't force you to volunteer.
01:49:11.000You know, I just don't say, you know, I think it's just like that argument of common law and the IRS, the people that are out there.
01:49:18.000I mean, there is no real law in the book for the, you know, federal income tax, but you know, they're going to come after you with the IRS and the military.
01:49:26.000I'm just saying if they come out with a mass conscription for people where they say conscription's happening, and you get in line and you say, I'm not going to do it, they're going to throw you in the brig, man.
01:49:35.000I mean, I find it hard pressed that they're just going to let you go.
01:49:38.000And we know that they want to build a domestic civil force.
01:49:41.000I mean, that's what Homeland Security was about, being brought in after 9-11.
01:49:44.000You know, that's just one facet of it.
01:49:47.000We have Homeland Security offices right around the corner of the new office.
01:49:52.000So I can see them giving you the choice of whether you want to serve in the armed forces or you want to serve domestic surveillance at home.
01:50:00.000But I don't think they're going to give you the choice to just walk away.
01:50:04.000I don't believe like they're just going to try to, you know, convince you to take one or the other.
01:50:10.000I think that they're going to Basically say you do this, or you're going to jail, or you're going to military prison, or you're going to regular prison.
01:50:18.000Yeah, I think looking back at the case of Aaron Watada, he was absolutely legally in the right to refuse to serve in a war that he felt was illegal.
01:50:28.000It's in the U.S. Uniform Code of Military Justice.
01:50:31.000It is the principle that came out of the Nuremberg war trials, and yet they kept prosecuting and prosecuting and prosecuting him, just trying to wear him down.
01:50:38.000Exactly. They have unlimited funds, and it doesn't matter to them if you're going to have to spend your car payment or your house payment to try to fight these guys.
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01:54:32.000It's just the coolest I get to sit in for Alex Jones for a week anyway.
01:54:36.000Then we get to have these great guests on, and the technology just keeps getting better and better and better.
01:54:42.000Mike Rivero also in my latest film, Fabled Enemies.
01:54:45.000You can get that over at InfoWars.com or if you're a PrisonPlan.TV subscriber, you can watch it free, streaming the web, download it, burn it to disk, hand it out to your friends.
01:54:55.000It really lays out the International Intelligence Agency that carried out 9-11.
01:55:01.000You know, it goes away from the physical anomalies.
01:55:04.000It shows that there's another story out there other than controlled demolition in World Trade Center Building 7, although that's obviously part of it.
01:55:12.000Mike, in the final segment we have you here, I'd really like you just to go over the Gaza situation, the latest updates and what's happening there and, you know, basically how we can put pressure on our government to really try to solve what's going on there instead of just taking the side of the Israelis blindly and promoting all this expansionism and imperialism.
01:55:34.000How is it that our voice can be heard?
01:55:37.000Well that is a very very difficult question because I think it's been made very clear to the United States people that Congress is not listening to us anymore.
01:55:46.000They certainly didn't with the bailout this last week.
01:55:50.000Both houses of Congress stood up and nearly unanimous, it was unanimous in the Senate, voted approval for what Israel is doing.
01:55:59.000And the bottom line as far as Israel and Gaza is concerned is Israel likes to pretend they own that land in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.
01:56:11.000United Nations Resolution 242 has ordered Israel out of the occupied territories, and Israel does not want to go because they covet that land.
01:56:20.000Now, the bottom line is, for the last 60 years, we've had all of this tremendous misery, war, killing, tremendous upset coming out of the Middle East, and it all comes down to one and only one cause.
01:56:34.000Israel demands for itself the right to exist and the right to a state, but denies that same right to its neighbors.
01:56:44.000And that is really the heart of this entire conflict.
01:56:47.000Israel will not grant to others that which it demands for itself.
01:56:52.000All Israel has to do to bring peace to the Mideast is simply grant to the Palestinians their right to exist and their right to a state.
01:57:01.000That was the original plan in the United Nations partition plan for there to be an Israeli nation and a Palestinian nation.
01:57:09.000And Israel said, we will not go along with that.
01:57:12.000David Ben-Gurion then proclaimed Israel to be in existence and said, we do not acknowledge Palestine's right to exist.
01:57:20.000Whereupon the other Arab nations said, well, if you're not going to acknowledge Palestine's right to exist, we don't acknowledge your right to exist.
01:57:27.000And that is the root cause of all of the How do you see it all ending?
01:57:45.000I mean, what do you think it's going to be?
01:57:47.000Do you think it's going to be a global conflict in the Middle East where a Eurasian Union is born and really Israel has the central role in governing that area?
01:57:58.000I know that's certainly what Israel would like to see happen, and I think Israel would not mind at all if the United States and Russia got into a mutually destructive war, which left Israel with its nuclear arsenal able to project power over that half of the world at least.
01:58:13.000So, as to what's really going to happen, time alone will solve that mystery.
01:58:18.000Alright, Michael Rivera, thank you so much for spending an hour with us.