On this episode of Political Talk, Alex Jones sits down with Rep. Dan Hamburger (D-Illinois) to discuss his thoughts on the Obama administration and its impact on the economy, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and much more.
00:00:31.000So we're just going to do about 20-30 minutes with him and then go back to your phone calls and cover all the news.
00:00:35.000The reason I wanted to have him on Is that he wrote some big op-ed pieces and publications, like the San Francisco Chronicle, detailing PDD 51, the FEMA camps, his analysis was dead on, right in line with ours, and he was worried that this whole apparatus would be passed on after Bush left, because let's face it, presidents have become ceremonial to a great extent.
00:00:57.000Whereas I would love to believe Obama really was going to fix things.
00:01:00.000Whereas I would really love to believe that everything was okay and get happy about equality in our first black president, I'm not here to be suckered or be conned.
00:01:10.000And I know that he's bringing in the worst of the Clinton people, the worst of the Bush people are staying on.
00:01:15.000The banker bailout bill gave immunity to the bankers, $8.5 trillion has been stolen according to multiple publications, Bloomberg, AP, San Francisco Chronicle.
00:01:26.000And it's been eight weeks since we learned the new numbers.
00:01:28.000That was in the first month and a half they stole over a trillion three hundred billion.
00:01:35.000Hard to get your mind around numbers that big.
00:01:38.000And now they're setting up an open world bank run by the bankers, so the ones that engineered all this.
00:01:45.000I mean, I said you can't vote for McCain, you can't vote for Obama.
00:01:48.000But I agree with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, who was a big Reaganite, That he said he was voting for Obama, and I couldn't say he was bad, because he said, I have to repudiate George Bush.
00:01:58.000The torture, the secret arrest, the police state, the lying about wars, the lying about WMD.
00:02:04.000So he said, I'm voting for Obama, and I said, well...
00:02:22.000Because now the people are suckered by the slickness, the intelligence.
00:02:26.000I mean, Bush was insulting, up there bumbling and stuttering and making up words.
00:02:31.000Obama, you know, he comes across as genuine, he's cool, he wears his hat backwards and, you know, does the hang ten, you know, surfing stuff.
00:02:56.000And, you know, I'm a big fan of Paul Craig Roberts.
00:02:59.000I try to read everything that I see that comes out on the net that he writes.
00:03:06.000And I have to say that I mostly share your perception.
00:03:13.000I don't think Obama He's a psychopath, but I'd sure like to know what he was doing when he went to work for Business International Corporation after he left Columbia.
00:03:23.000Because there's still something about Barack Obama.
00:03:28.000And you know, I hate to be a naysayer, because so many of my friends and even colleagues and people I respect are riding this Obama wave.
00:03:41.000And I don't want to be the skunk at the garden party.
00:03:44.000But at the same time, you know, you look at so many things that are going on.
00:03:50.000As you mentioned, the retreads from Clinton, the retreads from Bush, the way this economic crisis is being handled, which seems more like a heist than a stimulus.
00:04:03.000When you look at the continuation of the Extraordinary Rendition Program, you look at the continuation Of camps that, you know, Guantanamo closed it in a year.
00:04:14.000Well, you know, I think they ought to close it in 24 hours.
00:04:34.000military bases in Iraq, which seem to me to still be Not enduring bases, as they used to call them, but permanent military installations as part of the American Empire.
00:04:48.000And as I heard pointed out in the media last week, Barack Obama is now in charge of the biggest military machine in the history of the planet, by far.
00:05:01.000He is now the one who has responsibility for the American Empire.
00:05:07.000And he better start acting like he understands the undemocratic and profoundly negative aspect of that.
00:05:20.000And he doesn't really seem to have any understanding that he is now the ruler of an empire, he is now the ruler of a country that supplies more arms around the world than than any other country on the face of the Earth and in the history of the planet Earth.
00:05:40.000And, you know, I think this is going to be a pretty limp-wristed administration, if what we've seen so far is an indication of what's to come.
00:05:52.000Well, Congressman, I want you to, but let me throw in some points here.
00:05:58.000If you look at what Barack Obama's really doing, he's a slick pitchman, but a military industrial complex owned by offshore banks that big isn't going to let him get in.
00:06:08.000Isn't going to give him more money than any presidential candidate was ever given.
00:06:12.000Four or five times, depending on which numbers you look at, in Wall Street money than John McCain got.
00:06:18.000His administration filled with the very bankers that have engineered this collapse.
00:06:23.000And they're now amassing more power, terrorizing people saying, give us unlimited power or there'll be a depression.
00:06:30.000In hindsight, it's doing Obama a favor.
00:06:33.000And that's the approach I have in the Obama deception of going, look, forget this guy.
00:06:59.000So comment on that, A. And then, B, on the rendition, the kidnapping.
00:07:04.000It says, under executive orders issued by Obama recently, the CIA still has the authority to carry out what are known as renditions, secret abductions and transfers of prisoners to countries that cooperate with the United States.
00:07:16.000I mean, I've been reading what the legal scholars are saying, even liberals, who are kind of halfway wanting to, well, they're going to take them to secret camps.
00:07:24.000So, A, Everything's being put on Obama, and I believe it's going to be a trap.
00:07:28.000They're going to destroy him in the end, after he's served his usefulness politically.
00:07:32.000And then B, still allowing the abductions and taking them to secret client countries?
00:07:38.000Well, you know, it's way beyond creepy.
00:07:41.000And, you know, when you hear the justification from it in the mainstream press, led by the New York Times and the Washington Post, you know, the justification is, well, we have to Keep these tools in our national tool bag for fighting terrorism.
00:07:59.000Well, you know, even people like Chris Matthews on MSNBC are starting to understand that you don't fight a war on terrorism.
00:08:13.000And when you try to put your finger on who the enemy is, you run into the fact that Al-Qaeda itself It's a mythological organization, and to the extent there is an Al-Qaeda, it was created by the CIA.
00:08:26.000So, I mean, there are so many subterfuges within subterfuges within subterfuges, and you're right.
00:08:34.000The American people are being hoodwinked, they're being led around like sheep, and for what purpose?
00:08:42.000Well, it seems like the purpose is the same as it ever was, which is to rob Uh, the great majority of us, in order to feed the rich.
00:08:50.000And that's what our economic system has been about for many, many decades, if not a couple of centuries.
00:08:59.000And until people understand that, you know, I don't see anything really positive happening for the United States of America.
00:09:07.000Except we're going to kind of, while we go down the road to hell, they're kind of giving us laughing gas to feel euphoric about Obama and he says he cares about us and he says he wants us to, you know, work with him.
00:09:19.000Going back to an editorial you wrote, I guess about a year and a half ago, about Bush and how The whole apparatus of the police state and the FEMA camps and PDD 51 and John Warner Defense Authorization Act, it was all aimed at us.
00:09:33.000Now we're seeing it in the news that they're arresting people for marijuana, they're arresting people for talking back on airplanes, they're charging them under the Patriot Act, and it's all continuing under obama and he's saying we're going to do the war on terror and encircle russia we're going to have thirty thousand more troops to start with afghanistan uh...
00:09:51.000he's talking about a national draft eighteen to twenty four i mean george bush could never gotten away with this but money or like what bill clinton called when he came into office and and with people to get all the legislation passed and everybody said keep the republicans never could have ended welfare The Republicans never could have gotten NAFTA passed.
00:10:09.000The Republicans never could have gotten that crime bill through.
00:10:12.000So the Democrats, you know, come in and actualize the Republicans' fondest dreams.
00:10:22.000Obama, as you said, is a very slick character, and it's like having Will Smith as president.
00:10:30.000People just can't help but love him, and the wife, and the babies, and it's such a pretty picture.
00:10:35.000It's going to suck people along for a while, but the piper will be paid.
00:10:42.000If a year from now this economy is even more cratered than it is now, all of a sudden it's going to be blaming on the black man.
00:10:54.000You know, I can see some very ugly scenarios down the road, and I think the only way you combat it is to wake up America and get people to entertain the idea that they're being fooled.
00:11:10.000Well, Congressman, finish up after the break.
00:11:12.000We're about to go to break, but I agree with you.
00:11:14.000And that's what, you know, when I talk to people like KRS-One, or I talk to other, you know, well-known hip-hop, rap icons, that's what they're concerned about, because they know what's going on.
00:11:23.000They know he's the front man, and they know in the end this is a trap.
00:11:26.000And that's why, in a way, I'm doing Barack Obama a favor.
00:11:29.000The public needs to know, this guy, love him or hate him.
00:11:33.000You think he's the messiah or you think he's the devil?
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00:13:30.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:16:22.000Make no mistake, this is the Globalists making their move against free society right now.
00:16:29.000Using the crises they have orchestrated to bring in even greater control.
00:16:33.000Foreign offshore banks are openly not just heisting, not just robbing the treasuries of the world, not just the United States, not just the West, but they're making their moves on third world countries.
00:16:45.000That's what they did to third world countries over and over again.
00:16:55.000Getting into the FEMA camps, getting into the situation there, getting into Obama's youth corps and forced civilian service, Rahm Emanuel's brainchild.
00:17:08.000They're now announcing a civilian military.
00:17:34.000Well, the Corbett Report, you know, you wear the Corbett Report, comes out of Japan, and, um, they had a segment of, you know, of you on the air, and they were talking about precisely this issue, which is this cult of Obama.
00:17:50.000And this idea that we're all pledging, you know, not to our communities, but to Obama as the, you know, sort of the new, the new, I don't want to say Führer, but sort of like that, you know, it's a cult of personality.
00:18:09.000And I find it, I think everybody should find it very alarming.
00:18:13.000You know, this country is not about individual heroes.
00:18:17.000This country is about, you know, Wasn't there something in our Constitution about we the people?
00:18:23.000But, you know, we're getting away from that because things are at such a state that, and the people are so enamored of Brethren Circuses that, you know, they need this symbolic presence of, you know, the great leader that we're now all going to pay homage to.
00:18:42.000And I find it disgusting, but more than that, I find it very dangerous.
00:18:53.000It's the National Emergency Center's Establishment Act, introduced in the House as H.R.
00:18:59.000645 by a man named Alfie Hastings of Florida.
00:19:04.000And, you know, I served with Alfie Hastings, very nice gentleman, but there's one interesting thing about him, which was that when he was a federal judge in Florida, he barely escaped In fact, I think he did lose his judgeship on corruption charges, and shortly thereafter was able to win a seat in the House.
00:19:29.000But, you know, I was wondering, well, why is Alfie Hastings the one who's introducing this resolution?
00:19:35.000And a colleague of mine, Peter Dale Scott, who you may have heard of, he's written, you know, extensively... Interviewed him many times, interviewed him last week.
00:19:44.000Anyway, Peter Dale Scott's take on this is, well, of course it would be Alfie Hastings.
00:19:48.000You know, they've got so much crap on L.C.
00:19:50.000Hastings that he's, you know, they can tell him to introduce a bill to, you know, to do anything, and he'll do it, because they've got plenty on him.
00:20:00.000But if you read through this bill, it's very alarming.
00:20:05.000It's establishing six FEMA camps around the United States on military bases, and to me, the best commentary I've read on this so far Was the commentary made by Congressman Ron Paul, who pointed out that the fact that they're doing this on a military basis... Well, let me just read something off his blog.
00:20:28.000He says, even though we know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations, using the ever-popular excuse that the facilities are for the purpose of national emergency.
00:20:45.000National emergency centers will be used in a national emergency, but only if the emergency requires large groups of people to be rounded up and detained.
00:20:55.000If that isn't the case, asks Paul, then why have these national emergency facilities, why are they being built in military installations?
00:21:04.000And it's a very, it's a very interesting point.
00:21:09.000And it should really make people worried.
00:21:13.000They're taking these bases and turning them into centers that they can move people to, where they can be effectively contained.
00:21:25.000For long periods of time, if you read through the legislation... Congressman, stay there!
00:21:30.000Come back and start over on that point.
00:21:32.000And I particularly have been studying similar legislation for a long time.
00:21:37.000I want to connect a few dots when we come back with you and get your take on that because you were in Congress and you know what type of chance it has of passing.
00:21:44.000We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
00:21:46.000They've also got a bunch of bills that effectively ban most guns in the country.
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00:26:56.000Now they're trained to tell their local flocks to go to the camps, to turn in their guns, to take force inoculations, to let them take their children away, to other facilities for their safety.
00:27:06.000So you see these innocuous lines in there, you know what it means.
00:27:08.000Also, these threat fusions, FEMA centers, they're building separate command centers in every city and then in even rural areas in the counties, where the local police departments, it'll even be two or three counties or several cities, move into one building with the feds and the National Guard, which has now been federalized under What Homeland Security has openly announced, 20,000 regular troops to be on the streets, the National Guard to now be totally federal.
00:27:35.000Governors, it says, serve at their pleasure as dual-hatted officers of the U.S.
00:28:19.000So with that background, Congressman Hamburg, can you specifically speak to what I was just talking about?
00:28:26.000Well, you know, again, one of the things that Ron Paul points out is that in Iceland and Greece, we have already had citizen riots in response to the economic meltdowns that are occurring.
00:28:42.000And of course, the last time I was on with you, it was the day after Representative Brad Sherman had stood up on the House floor
00:28:53.000And I think in a one-minute speech he had talked about how he had been warned by administration officials, and this was later corroborated by, I think it was Senator Imhoff, that threats were actually being made that martial law could be instituted if the bailout bills weren't passed.
00:29:14.000So we've got that, we've got what you mentioned about the battle-hardened brigades Uh, now being stationed in the United States.
00:29:23.000There's a brigade now, I believe they're still stationed in Georgia, although they may have been moved to Colorado.
00:29:28.000And plans, uh, uh, currently being implemented to install two more brigades of, uh, of soldiers who are trained in, uh, containing civil unrest and, uh, checkpointing, uh, transportation facilities and, you know, basically, uh, dealing with, uh, civilian disorder.
00:30:02.000They've got to be combat ready, they're saying.
00:30:06.000The Army War College came out and said that their new mission is engaging the American people for civil unrest.
00:30:11.000Police agencies announced, like Phoenix, we're ready to do battle with you.
00:30:15.000So just amazing declarations, really a war against the people and this third brigade is the cream of the army from Fallujah, from areas of Baghdad, where as you just said, where they lock people down, so they have done the raids in homes, the gun confiscations, they are bringing the cream as the cadre to train the other brigades.
00:30:39.000Well, I'm not sure what to say about it, it's very frightening.
00:30:45.000Another thing I want to throw in there Is that since at least September 14, 2001, a few days after the so-called 9-11 terrorist attack, the United States has been under a state of national emergency, which allows the federal government to put into place these continuity of government provisions, which allow for martial law to be instituted.
00:31:14.000Now, the last time That state of national emergency was reinstituted, was on August 28th of 2008.
00:31:24.000I have heard nothing that indicates to me, and I keep looking for it and I keep asking about it, that that state of emergency has been rescinded by President Obama.
00:31:36.000As far as I know, this country is now in its, well I guess it's still the seventh year, but getting close to the eighth year of a continuous Continually reinstituted on an annual basis, State of National Emergency.
00:31:55.000The Congress, when a State of National Emergency is declared under United States law, Congress is supposed to reconsider that State of Emergency on a six month basis and either rescind it or continue it.
00:32:11.000That has never occurred and we're talking about now You know, seven or eight years.
00:32:18.000So, for people to believe that this country is operating in a democratic framework when we're under a state of emergency with continuity of government procedures in effect and brigades of the Northern Command within the continental United States with posse comitatus basically having been, you know, thrown out the window with a continuation of rendition and, you know, all the rest of this stuff, you know,
00:32:46.000I don't know what people are smoking, but they should start to wake up and smell the reality of what we're dealing with here.
00:32:59.000Congressman, I'm always impressed by how informed you are.
00:33:03.000Probably next to Ron Paul, you're about the only person I get on air who is always aware of every point I bring up, every news article I bring up, because I'm constantly trying to keep track three, four hours a day, and I don't find half the stuff.
00:33:15.000You know, I find it later, and I'm always angry, because so much bad is happening.
00:33:19.000People think I'm putting a bad face on things.
00:33:21.000No, it's far worse than I always predict, looking at the evidence, than it turns out it really was.
00:33:29.000That said, did you see one of the former, did you see the article where one of the former Fed Governors told Bloomberg that other Fed members he knows that are on the Board of Governors now are calling the New York Fed and the private Federal Reserve Board and saying let us know what's happening with the bailout and they tell them War Powers Act has been enacted We are under martial law, and so we don't even have to tell you that.
00:33:58.000And then that dovetails with Congressman Sherman and others we've interviewed here, and Senator Inhofe, on record, saying that they were threatened with physical martial law on October 1st, 2nd, and 3rd if they didn't pass the bailout.
00:34:10.000So clearly, with that national emergency, integrated with the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, PDD 51, enemy, combatant designations, the Military Commissions Act, with all of this nexusing in, we are under the military dictatorship of NORTHCOM.
00:34:28.000I mean, there's no other way to cut it.
00:34:31.000No, and it's in direct violation of statutes that have been part of this country for 200 years.
00:34:38.000But, unfortunately, the great majority of our population is blissfully unaware, and what we need is a There's a huge number of Paul Revere's out there riding around saying that the fascists have come and they have alighted in our cities and our towns and they are robbing this country of whatever hope of liberty that we ever hope to exercise as citizens.
00:35:09.000I just hope there's more programs like yours out there and that people will start to wake up.
00:35:17.000As one of our great patriots said, eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.
00:35:23.000Without an informed public, democracy is dead.
00:35:28.000Well, I agree with you and Congressman, in the last few minutes we have with you.
00:36:32.000that's a private group under him, like Mal.
00:36:34.000I mean, I couldn't dream up a worse scenario.
00:36:37.000I couldn't dream up something more horrible.
00:36:41.000I mean, it looks like he's the guy, the fresh horse they're putting into the race that is going to drag us right into the worldwide dictatorship.
00:36:53.000You know, it would have to be somebody who met the qualifications the way that Barack Obama does it.
00:37:03.000And again, I think anyone with a critical mind has to ask themselves, where did this man come from?
00:37:13.000You know, as wonderful as he appears and intelligent and all the rest, you don't go from the Illinois State Senate to the President of the United States unless you've got some very extraordinary backing.
00:37:26.000And there was somewhere along the line in the Barack Obama story, and again, I go back Business International Corporation, which is where Obama went after Columbia.
00:37:36.000Which, you know, you can look it up in Wikipedia and they'll tell you it's the CIA front.
00:37:40.000There was some point at which Obama was recruited and trained to be a certain type of political figure.
00:37:47.000And I'm not saying that when they trained him, you know, back, you know, when he had just finished undergraduate school, before he even went to Harvard, that they knew that he would be this person.
00:37:57.000I think the CIA recruits and trains Scores, if not hundreds of young people for these types of jobs, and they don't know exactly who is the one that's going to emerge.
00:38:39.000I mean, this is the guy who's kind of the gopher for the ultra-elite over every major president since Richard Nixon.
00:38:46.000I mean, can you specifically... I mean, is that a good thing on Obama's resume that the uber gopher of the globalist was his handler out of college?
00:38:57.000Well, no, but it tells you a lot about who Barack Obama is.
00:39:01.000We saw the confirmation of that when Obama became president, and we watched him pick the people who would surround him in his cabinet.
00:39:14.000And a lot of people said, well, he's just got the old LBJ strategy of it's better to have ball inside the tent than outside the tent.
00:39:24.000You know, there's just too many globalists, too many corporatists, too many imperialists in the cabinet to make you believe.
00:39:33.000I mean, you just have to be a Pollyanna to believe that this is going to end well.
00:39:39.000Congressman, give out your website for folks that want to visit.
00:40:00.000In fact, in his speech after he was sworn in, he turned to Bush and thanked him for the great job he'd done, which I thought was thoroughly disgusting after he talked about how evil Bush was and ran on Bush's crimes, only to flip-flop and wallow in all of them, and it seems to accelerate them.
00:40:15.000So, your final comments on bringing Bush to justice and how that segues into, isn't that another big test of Obama?
00:40:23.000Will he do anything to anybody in the Bush Administration, or will he protect them?
00:40:29.000Well, you know, the question I have is how much political capital will Obama expend to stop an investigation and a prosecution?
00:40:40.000I mean, we're already seeing the beginnings of that with this whole issue around Karl Rove and Harriet Meyers, and we found out that Fred Fielding, I think it was on January 16th, just before the end of the Bush administration, wrote letters to Karl Rove's attorney and Harriet Meyer's attorney informing them that they had full immunity in perpetuity for any prosecution for actions they had taken.
00:41:11.000So it looked as if Bush and his people are operating on this whole new theory, which has never really been tested in American history, that a president can continue, you know, it's almost like, you know, exerting power from beyond the grave.
00:41:31.000I mean, here is someone who has no constitutional authority anymore, basically telling the government that you cannot touch people who served in my administration.
00:41:44.000So in your words, is Obama already protecting Bush?
00:41:56.000All I'm saying is that I don't think Obama will expend a lot of political capital to fight.
00:42:02.000You know, say if Congress comes up with a commission, which is what this guy Steve Cohen, who's a congressman from Memphis, Tennessee, is talking about.
00:42:11.000You know, they're going to file They're going to file a bill, and they're going to try to set up a commission whose purpose is to investigate and perhaps prosecute the crimes of the Bush administration.
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00:44:30.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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00:48:45.000First one is, you know, here in California we're suffering a budget crisis, and I just wish that more Californians would wake up and find out about the comprehensive annual finance reports that they have, that they forced them to take their money out of their offshore bank accounts and Balance the budget and not force us to pay any more taxes.
00:49:08.000For those that don't know, the Pentagon that took over the U.S.
00:49:11.000in 1947, now publicly taking over, the receiver arm of the foreign banks, they took the Chicago mobs model they'd had for decades called Chicago 1313, where they took on average about 65 percent, now it's up to almost 80, It's like 67% on average nationally, and they take city, county, water district, school district money.
00:49:32.000It's put into a double set of books, not for pension investments, but separately.
00:49:37.000And then all they were talking about is the budget, instead of talking about the real set of books.
00:49:41.000And every county, city, state, every federal agency has one.
00:49:45.000And the bankers use that money to then buy up infrastructure, but now so they don't have to pay the counties and cities the money back, they're bankrupting the shell corporations.
00:49:53.000These big banks, these big brokerage firms, they were the fronts telling the cities and counties, invest here, we'll pay off your politicians later.
00:50:00.000It's totally criminal, but it's totally legal.
00:50:02.000And no one will talk about it, but I made a film about it.
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00:51:58.000works how this works is the global engineers their control smart but it's totally ruthless We're a bunch of naive sheep.
00:52:25.000What they do is, they have unfunded mandates, federal laws on the states and the counties and the cities, with regulations and control.
00:52:33.000That ups the huge budgets of the states.
00:52:36.000Then they get the states, the counties, the cities, every other governmental and quasi-governmental district to invest in offshore investments.
00:52:44.000And the lie was, then they'll just take the profit from those and put them in budget.
00:52:49.000Then the cities in the last few years, they started in Orange County, and then with the state investment fund about five years ago, they said, we want your money, and they said, you can't have it.
00:52:58.000And that's really one of the things that started things imploding, but that was by design.
00:53:02.000And now they're going to get the money out, and it's gone.
00:53:04.000Now that they're way over budget, they want some of the comprehensive annual financial report, mafia, you know, books.
00:53:09.000And they're saying, it isn't there for you.
00:53:49.000And the police state you see is to stop you from rightfully going and taking your government over through elections or physically and bringing them to justice.
00:53:56.000The only thing that can stop them is the people.
00:53:58.000And NORTHCOM is here to stop the people.
00:54:00.000NORTHCOM'S HERE TO DESTROY AMERICA AND BRING DOWN THE REPUBLIC!
00:54:04.000AND I CAN BRING RON PAUL ON, I CAN BRING CONGRESSMAN HAMBURG ON, I CAN BRING SENATOR INHOFE ON HERE, I CAN BRING THEM ALL ON TO TELL YOU, WE'RE UNDER NORTHCOM MARTIAL LAW!
00:54:13.000Yeah, it was a point of interest I wanted to make.
00:54:14.000multi-million dollar golden parachutes when they retire, and the defense contractors.
00:54:17.000You've got all the low-level troops that think they're patriotic.
00:54:24.000But let's not play games about who you're working for.
00:54:27.000Going back to Steve in California, one more question, then I'm going to everybody else.
00:54:30.000Yeah, it was a point of interest I wanted to make.
00:54:33.000I don't know if you know this, but here in Southern California, we have the Magna Carta on display at the Ronald Reagan Library.
00:54:44.000and uh... it kind of alarming when i found out that You know, if the New World Order wanted to stage an attack, you know, for pretext for many other actions.
00:54:55.000I believe there's three copies of the Magna Carta, like there were ten copies of the Declaration of Independence.
00:55:00.000Right, but for symbolism, you know, state, if they wanted to stage an attack, you know, they could get rid of the document, destroy it, and, you know, have some kind of Yeah, for those that don't know, the Magna Carta is what the Bill of Rights and Constitution comes out of, from 1215 and running mate.
00:55:21.000And the first thing Blair did when he got in office in 97-96 was to say, I am getting rid of the Magna Carta.
00:55:27.000And the public was so dumbed down, you know, liquored up in England, I mean they admit, most alcoholic state in the world, just as decadent as the Americans, they're like, screw it, get rid of it!
00:55:37.000Now the police are on the street going, terrorism if you photograph us.
00:55:41.000You're not allowed to videotape us beating somebody.
00:56:09.000Yeah, it's only your prayers that keep us going here.
00:56:15.000That's why I dedicate so much time to this, not because I'm even some wonderful good guy.
00:56:19.000I mean, I am a good guy overall, but I'm worldly as well.
00:56:24.000I am here doing this because I know that No matter what the risk to myself, the cost of doing nothing is too high to my family and my fellow humanity.
00:56:34.000Because I know what happens to others will happen to myself or my children, or their great-grandchildren.
00:56:42.000I just like good guys, creative people, I love honorable people.
00:56:46.000I hate scum, I hate traitors, I hate bullies.
00:56:49.000And let me tell you, filthy, disgusting, criminal bullies are in control of our society and they've got a giant spin machine trying to cover for them, but it's not going to work if you stop them.
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00:58:29.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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01:00:34.000I've got three short questions for you.
01:00:36.000of The first question has to do with the economy.
01:00:40.000Real quickly, I'm a would-be federal government employee, a public planner.
01:00:50.000And I'm pretty seriously concerned with how community governments are being directed.
01:00:56.000For instance, it's hard for me to believe that particularly people in government are so stupid that they can't predict the fall of the value of the dollar in the face of a lot of common sense analysis and prediction.
01:01:22.000And yet I'm seeing a lot of people who deny that.
01:01:25.000Well, I mean, none of that's your opinion.
01:01:26.000They've written hundreds of white papers.
01:01:29.000The Federal Reserve's admitted they were doing this.
01:01:31.000So, if there's an intentional aspect to this, and you and I probably agree that there is, why would the various banks that own the Federal Reserve deflate the value of the dollar?
01:01:50.000you know what just give me all your questions and i'll let you go and try to answer them because it could take uh...
01:01:55.000i want to try to move quickly but this is a very important why why deflate okay what's the next one uh... the uh... as an analog you uh... an analog to irving fisher's and scrap uh... would be i think an antidote to any fractional reserve banking systems uh... constriction of credit So the second question has to do with how such a system would be implemented.
01:02:22.000How you think such a system would be implemented.
01:02:26.000And the third question has to do with the people who are responsible for what we're in.
01:02:36.000When considering the history of Bolshevism and the Communist Manifesto, When considering the protocols of the Elders of Zion, when considering Harold Rosenthal's interview and many other documents, what do you think the relationship between Zionism and the New World Order is?
01:02:57.000Do you think Zionism is a genuine racist movement?
01:03:09.000Why would the private Federal Reserve that controls the United States and gets to milk it and where American taxpayers pay their money, the private Federal Reserve, why would they kill the goose that laid the golden eggs?
01:03:28.000And so they must sacrifice the United States on the altar of globalism to bring in the new system.
01:03:33.000What did the Wall Street Journal last week with that headline about the new world orders here, North American Union?
01:03:38.000They said, oh, this is the answer to fix the crisis.
01:03:42.000You're not going to have a good economy.
01:03:43.000You're not going to have a job and food on the table and clothes for your children and a car to drive to work and no vacations, no life, basically, depression, unless you do what we say.
01:03:53.000And that is, all these different private central banks, owned by the same families, are now merging into one global bank that will set taxes, regulations, carbon taxes, micromanaging every part of your life.
01:04:09.000They said decades ago, in the Trilateral Commission documents in the 70s that we've covered at nauseam, that they would implode the economy around 2005, they're a few years behind, And merge the American Union, the Asian Union, the European Union together.
01:04:21.000Those agreements have already all been signed.
01:04:23.000We're already in an American Union, already merging with the European Union as of two years ago.
01:04:28.000I have Bush on the White House lawn saying it with the leader of the European Union and Merkel, the head of Germany.
01:04:35.000And we have the Judicial Watch documents through Foyer.
01:04:38.000And the public's just now being told by the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times that, oh yeah, it is a North American Union, that'll fix the crisis.
01:04:46.000So see, they always get us four or five steps ahead and then tell us about a step five, six steps behind.
01:04:52.000You know, they build the camps, then they introduce legislation.
01:04:55.000Oh, we're going to legalize camps and have the local police under it and the local clergy.
01:04:59.000I said I was going to blitz through phone calls.
01:05:03.000These questions are so important, it's hard to not answer them all.
01:05:08.000Then you talked about what type of money system should we have if we remove the fractional reserve banking fraud of the international bankers, which they're not even doing fractional reserve banking now.
01:05:38.000If we had a good government, if the people were involved and educated about fractional reserve banking and educated about paper script, it really does grease the skids of the economy.
01:05:46.000It's just going to be used and abused and will always be abused.
01:05:51.000Set currencies of silver or gold or tally sticks or seashells or wampum, glass beads, whatever people have used throughout history, salt, sugar, spices, Frankincense and myrrh.
01:06:08.000People always go in in history when that happens and buy up the key distribution of that, the key production of those things and then they manipulate that.
01:06:19.000But it's better than a fiat system run by the elite.
01:06:21.000Could we have a fiat system run by the government?
01:06:24.000I tend to lean towards that and disagree with Ron Paul and the Austrian School of Economics about their Goldback system because we're so deep into this That we'd have to extricate ourselves.
01:06:33.000And Ron Paul has said it would take some time.
01:06:35.000So I think a hybrid of the two systems.
01:06:37.000I think competing monetary systems are the answer.
01:06:40.000So perhaps we can have a script system, a private script system, or group of script systems.
01:06:46.000And then at the same time have a barter system with gold and silver that would be done also off of script.
01:06:54.000Then you're back to the gold smiths who would only have so much gold in their vault and issuing too much script.
01:06:59.000Buying off politicians with their undue capital that's really fiat.
01:07:04.000And on the subject of Zionism, you know, we have guests on here to talk about.
01:07:09.000What Zionism is, and Zionism isn't a criticism of Jews themselves, Zionism is a political ideology very similar to what Hitler said, or the white supremacists say, or what the black Israelite movement says.
01:07:24.000I mean, every group, Japan has a group that says they're the master race and everybody else is scum.
01:07:29.000And it says that everybody else are basically animals who can be killed and destroyed at will.
01:07:38.000It's a horrible political system, certainly for the Palestinians in and around Israel, and so I am in opposition to that apartheid type system.
01:07:45.000I think it's very hypocritical that Israel can do things that's way worse than what South Africa did, and it's A-OK with the media, but then what South Africa did was bad.
01:08:45.000But I also don't like to bash Israel too much because I don't want to be in association with all the other tribal groups that make up exaggerated stuff about Israel, go crazy about Israel, hate all Jews, you know, make it a big thing.
01:08:58.000I don't like all this tribalism, all this racism, whatever you want to call it.
01:09:02.000Now I just spent ten minutes with one caller.
01:09:04.000I've got to somehow get to more callers here.
01:09:06.000But Michael in North Carolina, you're on the air, welcome.
01:10:08.000And how you put value on that and how you trade value for that.
01:10:16.000Yes, and then getting local scripts which everybody agrees upon and then there's a known amount that's out there and it's just an agreed upon mode of exchange for your labor, for your time, for your energy.
01:10:31.000That's why I'm saying we need local currencies competing with regional currencies, competing with national currencies, competing with international currencies.
01:10:38.000That way elites can't corner the market.
01:10:40.000It's a separation of powers within the entire monetary scheme.
01:10:45.000It is a liberalization of the symbols of credit.
01:11:22.000But by you going and depositing your little paper check in there, they loan out 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 times all the real physical money they've got in there, leveraged.
01:11:34.000And so what does the bank really want?
01:11:35.000It wants you to go bankrupt because it doesn't care about the fake zeros and ones in its computer.
01:11:41.000It wants to set up a depression so everybody collapses.
01:11:46.000That's why they issue all this credit because they control it so that their false credit bubble of debt can implode and take over the entire economy with it.
01:11:55.000Alright, more calls straight ahead right here on the one and only GCN Radio Network.
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01:13:01.000Listeners of the network are familiar with the Federal Reserve Note and understand the risks of deficit spending.
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01:15:59.000All right, let's try to get through some of these calls. - Who's up next here, John?
01:16:26.000It's kind of funny, the rise of phone calls that you're getting from Illinois and the Chicago area ever since Groblegovich, this whole scandal came to pass.
01:16:34.000Well, we've always gotten a lot of calls from Illinois, but, you know, we've been getting even more, I've noticed.
01:16:39.000Yeah, and I do have to say one thing about this guy.
01:16:42.000I mean, there was a commentator, a political commentator on WGN News that basically said this whole thing, he's like, it's basically the whole impeachment panel was like, and I quote, he's like, it was like a bunch of flies hanging on a wall, all blaming one fly for having dirty feet.
01:17:03.000Yeah, but you can't accept the fact that they've all got dirty feet that you don't kick them out.
01:17:09.000But one thing that I saw that was really interesting, the day The evening that he got back, I believe it was like last Tuesday or something like that, after he got impeached.
01:17:21.000And they had like a kind of an impromptu media conference out by the front door.
01:17:30.000And he was talking about how, you know, basically his rights were violated as far as him not being able to bring forth, you know, any witnesses.
01:17:42.000That's right, and the Senate lied and said we used the Bill Clinton rules, and Bill Clinton wasn't allowed to bring witnesses.
01:17:49.000Funny, I remember Bill Clinton brought a bunch of them, including Vernon Jordan.
01:17:52.000So they are lying about the fact that, oh well, it's normal to not allow people to call witnesses.
01:17:59.000And so definitely it's a corrupt system sacrificing him for some reason.
01:18:05.000And I don't know if that's the Bush administration blackmailing Obama, because Blagojevich came up with him under the control of... Blagojevich was a congressman, formerly, too.
01:18:15.000So he's always worked with Rahm Emanuel, who's as dirty as they come.
01:18:19.000So, I mean, we don't know the full extent of this, but in the final equation, it's a diversion and a distraction to begin with.
01:18:27.000Elliot Spitzer starts going after Bank of America and others for scams they're running, and suddenly, you know, his one impropriety with hookers, he was under FBI surveillance the whole time.
01:18:37.000The British Parliament's under surveillance.
01:18:39.000They're arresting members of Parliament now when they leak information about government corruption.
01:18:44.000Because the intelligence agencies that work for the big banks, they are the real government.
01:18:48.000And so, this slapping governors around and congressmen around and they're going after Rangel right now and everybody else, that's about the real government, the military-industrial complex, letting everybody know in line, we don't care how powerful you are, we'll crush you whenever we want.
01:19:03.000Even if you've got dirt on us, our media won't let that come out.
01:19:06.000And you don't get a fair trial, do you understand?
01:19:12.000And the thing that's really interesting about it is, Which kind of hit home, I mean, even though, you know, he is a pseudo-scumbag, you know, to begin with, but the thing that was really interesting that he said in his speech, which, you know, he was getting kind of teary-eyed and stuff like that, but the one thing that he did say is he talked about, you know, his First Amendment rights, he talked about all of his rights to be able to speak about this, and he says if you think that they would do this to a governor,
01:19:39.000What do you think that they would do to you, the ordinary citizen?
01:19:50.000The reason I don't care if they destroy him, even if they're violating his rights, I am against that, and I certainly want him to be able to call witnesses, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to cry tears for Blagojevich.
01:20:01.000The guy, three months ago, said he's calling out the National Guard for door-to-door gun confiscation in Illinois.
01:20:31.000Alright, so I don't really see people standing up against this whole New World Order thing because From what I've come across on the internet these days, it's like people are just, they're just arguing with each other.
01:20:43.000Yeah, they're trying to be slaves, yeah.
01:20:46.000Yeah, and they claim they're, you know, anti-New World Order, I'm going to change this, and You know, they've come out of, they've run out of things to really talk about, and... They mainly talk about me.
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01:27:37.000They show 9-11 truth groups in Congress saying these are terrorists, we've got to shut down the web because of them.
01:27:43.000People hear that and just come and check us out even more.
01:27:46.000So, fortune does favor the bold, and the fortune we're looking for is liberty and freedom, and as things get darker and darker, more serious folks are going to wake up.
01:27:55.000It was about 2% that started the Revolutionary War against the British because of their abuses in 1775, and then it kicked off officially in 1776, and only 5% were involved for the entire war against the British.
01:29:08.000We've got probably 10% that really knows what's going on.
01:29:11.000Just a lot of them are scared and aren't in the fight yet.
01:29:14.000If you look at the abolitionist movement in 1800, you can go pull these numbers up, less than 2% of the British population were abolitionists, less than 2% of the American population here in the United States. 2%!
01:29:27.000Go forward 60-something years, and they were now the majority in the South, the majority in the North, and the minority in the South.
01:29:34.000But the point is only, what, 3% of people in the South owned slaves.
01:29:39.000They were the only ones at the end that were actually for it.
01:29:41.000But you're talking about the vast minority just 60-something years later who were for slavery, and it was outlawed with the Emancipation Proclamation.
01:29:50.000So you can look at that 2% in the North, In 1800, and people laughing at them, people saying they were idiots, they had no power, it was a joke, they were fools.
01:30:02.000But you saw England outlaw slavery, you saw Latin America, the countries down there outlawed by the 1830s and 40s depending on the nation, you see Mexico outlaw slavery, you see slavery being outlawed all over the world.
01:30:15.000You saw slavery being outlawed in areas of Asia.
01:30:19.000You know, that was Asians with Asian slaves.
01:31:42.000The enemy moved forward and now people are listening.
01:31:46.000So it's up to us now, as we see everything unfolding, not to whine and complain and bitch about it, but to say, OK, we were right, let's do something about it.
01:31:53.000To all the people on the fence, OK, you didn't believe FEMA camps were real?
01:32:52.000If you strike me down, and I don't want that to happen because I've got work to do, but even if they strike me down, that just gets bigger!
01:34:26.000I'm here to fight the New World Order.
01:34:28.000I'm not here to suck my thumb and play games.
01:34:30.000I'm here to go toe-to-toe 110% and they may kick my butt in the ring, but I'm here in the ring, and you better believe this, you attack my liberty, you attack my freedom, you attack my country, you attack my family, I'm gonna fight back.
01:34:43.000And you may beat me, but you better believe I'm gonna keep swinging all the way.
01:34:48.000And I kick like a mule and I bite like a crocodile.
01:35:59.000They work for universities and major corporations.
01:36:01.000But they just won't come and see the light.
01:36:04.000And I just get scared that this might be the make-or-break year, 2009.
01:36:09.000That's because subconsciously, they know it's true, they're afraid, so they go, uh-uh, no, no, everything's fine, uh-uh, no, no, everything, I don't want to hear it.
01:36:18.000I mean, I've seen people, I've had family, cousins and people over, and I've tried to give them a DVD and they act like it's a snake.
01:36:23.000Oh, no, God, no, I don't want, you know why?
01:36:27.000I appreciate that point of view, because when I tried to get people to watch Loose Change, It was almost like they were little kids, and they were breaking one of the church commandments, and they were going to get caught.
01:36:39.000They were so afraid, but they did watch it.
01:36:42.000Well, that's a good way to get our material out, because it is avant-garde, it is cutting-edge, it is underground, it is dangerous.
01:36:48.000You tell them, this is a super-suppressed video, which it is.
01:36:51.000They're trying to erase them and shut down Endgame, Terror Storm, all these powerful films, and you tell them, well, this is hardcore, and they'll run home and, you know.
01:37:02.000It would be helpful if one of your writers, you know, like the Five Steps of Grieving, there's also a process like that akin with coming to grips with what the heck is going on.
01:37:25.000But it would be great if somebody could put together You know, the steps of not grieving, but coming to grips with the horrible... Ma'am, we're trying to expand.
01:38:21.000And has given speeches on it, and he kind of... He's retired, I guess, to put it lightly these days.
01:38:28.000Peak oil is actually, they want to reduce resources to control the population, but certainly Well, let's just put it this way, PECOIL is one area that I think you should look at the alternatives on and research, okay?
01:38:45.000Great to have you on board with us as a listener.
01:38:47.000I'm going to come back, I'm going to plug these sponsors, then I'm going to go to some more of your calls.
01:38:51.000I do have some economic news I want to hit.
01:38:53.000All these top economists are talking about we are already in a depression, even The Economist magazine, which is as prestigious as it gets.
01:40:40.000decriminalize medicinal marijuana because many of our brave troops experience traumatic brain injuries, TBI, from IEDs.
01:40:47.000And all the studies of major medical institutions, not the marijuana lobby, the ragtag lobby, but major studies say it is great for brain trauma, great for PTSD.
01:40:57.000They've done placebo tests with Prozac and sugar pill, and Prozac is actually bad for PTSD, but they put them on it when marijuana helps them.
01:41:05.000And I totally agree with you, and again, I'm not a marijuana guy.
01:41:08.000I mean, I've smoked marijuana before, and every few years I'll go, I'll be at an event or something, I'll go, okay, and then I go, oh, now I remember why I don't smoke this.
01:41:18.000But, you know, I really think that, well, I mean, I agree with you.
01:41:22.000Well, the point I want to try to make now is the time for our returning troops to have medicinal marijuana, because it's at least an option to help them in their recovery from TBIs.
01:41:31.000And it's so crucial, I mean, we want, everybody wants to help our troops.
01:41:35.000And there's the reason I think that we're going to put this medicinal marijuana issue over the line, because who doesn't want to help our troops?
01:41:43.000You know why glaucoma, glaucoma is pressure in the eye, inflammation inside that makes you go blind.
01:41:49.000It's the number one treatment now, the most effective, THC drops in the eye.
01:41:54.000And my grandmother even had glaucoma and they gave her those drops and it worked for her.
01:42:02.000They grow out in the embryonic development and a lot of times the person also has inflammation of the brain from MSG, aspartame, fluoride, things in the water.
01:42:10.000And that's why with brain injuries, some brain injuries, not all of them, they found that marijuana is good because it does reduce brain inflammation, swelling.
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01:49:31.000and I'm going to bring them over and have them start listing.
01:49:33.000Okay, so you're still selling a $25 book for $25 with a silver dollar that's selling for $22 on the market, and then you're doing the shipping too.
01:49:43.000So we're talking a $60-plus value for $26-something?
01:49:59.000You have francs, you have British sovereigns, you have dimes and silver at the price that you were giving with How much has the market gone up from that price?
01:50:08.000Well, it's gone up about a hundred bucks, like you say.
01:50:10.000And the silver, obviously not a hundred bucks, but certainly if you put a percentage on it, it's about ten percent or better.
01:51:08.000No one is going to take care of your family in the final equation but you.
01:51:12.000You know eFoodsDirect.com is still able to ship storable food that's safe from E. coli, salmonella, genetic alteration, or Chinese imports.
01:51:19.000And they do it at almost half the cost of last year's grocery prices.