In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg sits down with Craig Proudly and Sean Kaysinger of The Conspiracy Hunters to discuss gun control in America. They talk about the gun control laws that have been implemented across the country, and how they compare and contrast to the laws in place in Australia.
00:00:32.000We were down there to talk to folks about Obama and get their take on him.
00:00:35.000I've never seen, even there in the middle of the day, 6th Street that dead.
00:00:40.000But I wanted to have these guys in here to talk about what it was like to have their guns, almost all of them, confiscated and I guess single shots, highly regulated.
00:00:48.000Crocodile Dundee, the real guy that that movie's based on, wouldn't turn his guns in, so they came out and surrounded his house and killed him.
00:00:57.000I remember reading that in the NRA magazine a long time ago.
00:01:00.000Uh, and now they're openly saying they're going to have, quote, Chinese net-style censorship where you can only visit a few thousand sites, basically.
00:01:07.000So, yeah, you guys are under the crown.
00:01:10.000We were talking last night and you said a lot of Australians say what you need, uh, is, um, When a revolution like the United States happened, and I was talking to you guys, you were saying what I've heard from other Aussies is that the police, the military, everybody knows the government's corrupt and bad.
00:02:00.000Now, Sean grew up in the States but then has lived in Australia a long time and is now getting married over there and went to school there.
00:02:09.000But of course, Craig, tell me about the rest of your crew that's also here.
00:02:48.000Yeah, I know, and I've got some strange hybrid, which no one understands now.
00:02:51.000But the crew we brought over is all Australian, including Craig, and it's the first time they've been in America.
00:02:57.000So there's a real contrast between Australian culture, what they're used to in Australia, and now what they're running to in California, in Georgia, and now in Texas.
00:03:08.000Let's get into the gun confiscation, the gun restriction, how you went from being just like the U.S.
00:03:13.000overnight to special licenses and things just to basically have a single shot, and now they're even trying to restrict those.
00:03:20.000Well, Australia doesn't have a Bill of Rights and we've never really had the right to bear arms.
00:03:25.000But the most significant case was a famous massacre with a gentleman called Martin Bryant.
00:03:30.000And after that incident, the Prime Minister at the time, John Howard, whose popularity was lagging, became very popular by actually going out in front of big gun lobby groups and actually calling for certain weapons such as semi-automatic weapons to be taken away from the Australian population.
00:03:48.000large, huge amounts of people surrendered their firearms.
00:04:00.000When I arrived in Australia in 98, it was at the very end of that.
00:04:04.000And it was very much a shift in culture was taking place.
00:04:07.000I mean, I had friends who were gun collectors, gun smiths, people who lived down in the bush, did a lot of hunting, and they were all complaining that, well, you know, it's over, we're handing in our guns, it's happening right now.
00:04:18.000And since 98, to even be someone who talks about gun ownership, you're basically looked at as a bit of a fool.
00:04:24.000Well, they do that through mass mind control and peer pressure.
00:04:28.000But notice that was a green light for them.
00:04:30.000Now they're saying, eh, we're going to ban protests and say it's terrorism.
00:04:33.000We're going to go ahead and restrict the web.
00:04:36.000And then now they're grabbing property.
00:04:37.000I mean, from what I've read, you live there.
00:04:41.000Yeah, I mean, if anyone wants to find out about the actual massacre, if they actually Google the name Martin Bryant and conspiracy... Clearly staged!
00:04:48.000There's a massive amount of information about how that was staged, so... But as far as Australia's concerned, the joke that we have on the road here, when we see something in America that we're not familiar with or we disagree with, we just say, well, the government should legislate it.
00:05:02.000Because that's what happens down under.
00:05:04.000I keep saying to these guys, Obama's gonna fix it.
00:05:07.000Because that's often, even in Australia, that's still the thinking.
00:05:10.000Look, yeah, things have been rough, but it's going to get better now.
00:05:13.000Well, last night they were going, yeah, Obama, we were asking folks what they thought, and they said, Obama, you know, he had to lie and appoint nothing but lobbyists.
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00:08:58.000Now listen, next hour with our guest in studio from Australia, I'm going to open the phones up.
00:09:15.000But I only, and I rarely do this, and I'm going to hang up on you folks because I want to leave the phones open and bring up some other issue.
00:09:22.000I want to hear from people that have been through urban warfare, gun confiscation drills, or in New Orleans and Louisiana with gun confiscation, they did it all over the state.
00:09:31.000Or who are in Iowa, where we know the National Guard is running checkpoints, now they're doing this larger program, I specifically want to hear from you on that, and I had the phone numbers for the police and for city officials, but what I need, in fact I have those, I need more numbers.
00:09:53.000Because I have the Public Affairs Office, the Chief of Staff, the Joint Forces Headquarters, the Armory at Camp Dodge, Johnston, Iowa.
00:10:04.000But I want the phone number for the two towns, the two cities where this is going on in Arcadia.
00:10:13.000And then in the other town, so I need you guys to give me the numbers for the town, the sheriff the county's in, all of it.
00:10:20.000Do we have any luck getting any of these creatures on the air when you try to call them?
00:10:26.000No, I know I have the phone number to the military.
00:10:35.000Guys, I mean, what do you think seeing this where the Army's gonna go door-to-door and do gun confiscation drills and hang up pictures of U.S.
00:10:42.000citizens and run around with checkpoints in the town with just people there in the middle of it?
00:10:48.000I mean, that's obviously the acclimatum.
00:10:50.000Just on this trip, Alex, we came from California, we went to Georgia, we're in Texas now, and, you know, in Georgia, people are talking about fighting, people are talking about resisting, there's all this sense of, you know, we know something's going on.
00:11:00.000In California, they're all very sleepy.
00:11:02.000Yeah, Obama's gonna fix it, we need to trust the President, let's give it some time.
00:11:06.000There's a real division from what I'm seeing.
00:11:09.000I guess the scary thing is that when the military is used on the streets against the people in Australia, there's some indigenous communities in the centre and there's been a lot of child sex issues.
00:11:18.000So what they did is they actually sent the military in to police the towns.
00:11:22.000Now we see that as a precedent for something, a sign of things to come.
00:11:25.000I remember seeing blurbs about that, but isn't it mainly the local governments that control the indigenous people?
00:11:32.000Like CPS has been grabbing their kids, and like with native reservations here, a lot of them end up dying.
00:11:37.000I've seen those articles over the years, and you were telling me last night that now the military is policing.
00:11:42.000Well the numbers of Indigenous Australians has dropped from, I'm not sure of the years, but something like 300,000 to 50,000.
00:11:49.000And like Canada, like Native Americans, which Sean can talk about, that's a big deal.
00:12:38.000You know, they're independents, in which they're not an entirely independent nation, by the way.
00:12:41.000Yeah, back in the 70s, they removed the Prime Minister when he wouldn't do what the Queen said.
00:12:46.000Just like they just did in Canada, but it was the opposite.
00:12:48.000He called the Queen's governor in when the parliament said get out.
00:12:53.000Yeah, well, and what I'm saying is in Texas and in the greater U.S.
00:12:56.000you have this psychology which is all about the Constitution, our rights, our skepticism towards the government.
00:13:02.000What I find as an American living in Australia is the exact opposite.
00:13:06.000People basically trust, you know, they may not, they may be skeptical of leaders, but by and large they'll do what the government tells them to do.
00:13:15.000I mean, it's in public record that the Governor-General was influenced by the British Crown, obviously, as the British Crown's representative, by the CIA, to dismiss the Australian Prime Minister.
00:13:26.000And this is eight years after another Australian Prime Minister actually went swimming on a beach in Victoria and went missing, and his body's never been found.
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00:15:11.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:15:16.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:15:21.000Our guest, who are TV producers and directors from Australia, making a film, a series, both for Australian television, is TacticalRecon.com.au.
00:15:38.000In fact, there it is right now, up on screen, live at PrisonPlanet.tv for the next two hours.
00:15:43.000In fact, we went live a little bit early, a little bit earlier, about 15 minutes ago.
00:15:48.000Coming up in about 20 minutes I'm going to give you the phone number for the city of Arcadia where they're having this giant door-to-door martial law drill for gun confiscation.
00:15:59.000We're also going to give the number to the U.S.
00:16:00.000Army, specifically who's doing this, but you should call the regular army.
00:16:06.000And we have other state reps coming on later in the show that are fighting all of this as well.
00:16:11.000We have the Aussies here in studio with us right now.
00:16:15.000I'm opening the phones up for people that have been in urban warfare drills, folks that are in Iowa, people who are concerned about this on this subject.
00:16:21.000I want to leave the phones open to police and military.
00:16:32.000I'm getting a lot of military and police emailing us and calling us and contacting us.
00:16:36.000Other hosts are telling me this, you know, mainline hosts, that finally they're coming out of their trance going, wait a minute, foreign bankers run the country, they're looting everything, this is all really happening, now they're training us to go after the American people, they're training us for roadside IEDs that the American people are going to be fighting us soon.
00:16:54.000Well, I'll tell you something about Australia.
00:16:56.000It's not that it's happening now, it's that it's already happened.
00:16:59.000I mean, the gun culture is all but gone in Australia, as far as from what I can tell.
00:17:03.000I've been there ten years now, and there's no real debate anymore about whether people ought to own guns.
00:17:08.000I mean, to get an assault rifle is virtually impossible.
00:17:11.000You might find the occasional person who has a special permit for a handgun or a hunting rifle, but that's pretty rare and that's definitely not in the cities.
00:17:22.000And the reason we're making the show that we're making is to deal with apathy.
00:17:26.000And we're really worried when we speak to young people in particular and they're just not that interested in politics, they're not that interested in the future, it's all about the here and now, and we really want to respond to apathy.
00:17:36.000You know, question your government, question what's going on, question every time the Australian government sends soldiers into every US war, as they always have.
00:17:45.000People just don't seem to really care anymore, and that's why we're here making the show that we're making at the moment.
00:17:50.000You might even say that Australia is kind of a picture of where the U.S.
00:18:10.000You've never seen a group divided so quickly as when you show something like Terror Storm.
00:18:14.000And quite frankly, I think it's all about worldview.
00:18:16.000Some people just decide in advance these things can't be true, so you must be wrong.
00:18:21.000And the other half have already been suspicious for some time, and now it's reinforcing their view.
00:18:25.000But I mean in the film we have like mainstream times of London where it's admitted that British Special Forces SAS were caught dressed up like Arabs running around shooting and killing people to blame it on the people in Basra.
00:19:53.000Alright, we're going to come right back after this quick break with our guest in studio from the land down under.
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00:24:21.000Texas has introduced a sovereignty resolution so we're trying to fight this as hard as we can because the states created the federal government.
00:24:26.000So that's how we quote rebel, isn't even rebelling.
00:24:29.000When the feds rebel, we spank them and put them in line and the states Uh, can dissolve the federal government with 35 states voting and then reconstitute however they like.
00:24:38.000That's a great danger as well, though, because the globals can get in there and rewrite things when that's happening.
00:24:42.000That's why we want state-by-state basis.
00:24:43.000They can also individually declare sovereignty but still be in the union and just lay down the law and say no, but NORTHCOM says they're gonna use federal troops on them.
00:24:50.000See, the feds have war-gamed all this out.
00:24:53.000So, before you leave us, we'll probably just have you most of the rest of the hour.
00:24:56.000You have time for that, but we'll just pop back in with you guys and comment on what you're about to hear.
00:25:01.000Again, I've told callers who are military, who are police, who are upset about this, or who like the Urban Warfare gun confiscation training to call in, or people that are in Iowa.
00:25:10.000I've told people just last week that Iowa is the first place I saw real regular Army checkpoints on highways searching for weapons and guns after 9-11.
00:25:19.000And news cameras would be shooting video and they'd walk over.
00:25:22.000It was on mainstream TV and they'd say, turn your cameras off.
00:25:24.000In fact, I looked for that on the web the other day, but because it's seven years old, I couldn't find it.
00:25:29.000Maybe somebody can find those Iowa, there's several of them, newscasts.
00:25:32.000We do have other ones out of Georgia in places, but you know, they do these drills and then they become real.
00:25:36.000And it says they're going to hang up pictures of Americans, of the gun dealers looking for, go door to door and ask, are they in here?
00:25:59.000One time they were giving media tours over this college they'd taken over for a drill in Oakland, and when I was there, Steve Jones, the former Marine Corps Captain, who was now their PR guy, was a private civilian, would run on, get out of here Jones, you can't tape this!
00:26:11.000But then we sent a guy in, they were giving citizens tours, which they're doing here, but this is the whole town, and that's when we got them doing executions.
00:26:20.000They take Americans out and they go, alright, watch this, an execution, and they simulate blowing Americans' heads off.
00:26:26.000Now, that's the most hardcore, extreme form of martial law.
00:26:29.000And now they announce FEMA camps, they're going to merge the police, the military into them.
00:26:35.000And I know I keep just saying it over and over again, because in a way we've been covering this so long, you know, it's good to report on it, be aware of it and counter it, but it's bad if people don't take action, because then it's like, yeah, I know they're training with camps.
00:26:46.000I mean, you know, that kind of apathy sets in.
00:27:27.000So, on one hand, I guess we disrespect our politicians and don't believe a lot of them, yet we all vote for them, we don't really question what they're doing, and it's very 1984 in the concept of double-think.
00:27:38.000And, again, we come back to this issue of apathy.
00:27:40.000We realise we're apathetic and we want to do something about it.
00:27:43.000We get inspired by young guys in groups like We Are Change.
00:27:46.000We may not agree with everything they do, we're inspired that young people are actually getting up and doing something, confronting politicians in particular, And we're filmmakers, so we're doing it through the mode of television, film and television.
00:27:57.000They're doing it just with video cameras in the face of people.
00:28:46.000And I've talked to people where presidents of companies call and tell program directors, tell vice presidents, tell the heads of programming, you're not doing this.
00:28:57.000So, I mean, the control is very, very real.
00:29:01.000Hammer with Showbiz Tonight on CNN, his producer, was like, oh, we're getting record ratings with this Charlie Sheen 9-11 stuff with you on day after day.
00:29:09.000We're having you back on all this week.
00:29:10.000And then they got a call, not from even programming, but from execs in Time Warner and said, uh-uh.
00:29:15.000So, I mean, you know, I even talk to Fox News people and they're like, yeah, we like your show, awesome, you know, yeah, the new order's really bad, yeah, the host is an idiot, you know, I mean, you know, yeah, they're probably going to attack you, but we want to try to get you on, and then I'll be in the car going to the studio, the satellite up, and they'll call and go, yeah, higher-ups cancelled you.
00:29:32.000And I've been booked on every show, and I go, come on guys, your higher-ups are going to say, no, no, no, no, I can book whatever I want.
00:30:12.000A lot better than the Crocodile Hunter.
00:30:14.000I think one of the big things is when you just start talking to people about conspiracies, everyone seems to have one conspiracy they believe in.
00:30:21.000You know, we talk about the show, they all name one conspiracy, whether it's JFK or something in Australia, but they never believe there's a great conspiracy.
00:30:30.000They somehow compartmentalize this one little conspiracy.
00:31:13.000Thank you very much for all the great work that you do.
00:31:18.000Here in Iowa, I've been trying to spread your message for the better part of the last six, seven years, and telling people in Iowa that the new world order and world government and world banking is stepping up to the plate now in just blatant efforts to dominate our society and take the rights away, and people here don't believe me.
00:31:42.000Most of the stuff I get from you and listen to what you say and research what you say.
00:31:47.000With what's going on in Arcadia, the news here won't report on it.
00:31:52.000The news here hasn't really said anything.
00:31:54.000The newspaper up there is the first time I've seen it.
00:32:00.000You talked earlier about coming up here.
00:32:01.000If you come up here, I would love to do everything I can to help you out and work Whatever you need done up here to prepare for that.
00:32:08.000I'm an actor, director, and producer, so I have access to... Well, just so you know what I do when I go to these events, because we have feds coming up saying, hey, you want to attack and kill some police?
00:32:27.000I want folks doing their own stories, their own camera work.
00:32:30.000If folks want to give us footage, that's great.
00:32:32.000But I trust you, it's just I have to isolate myself when I go into one of these situations, so we're not set up.
00:32:38.000I normally get two or three, because we've been broken into, hotel rooms, and I sleep in different ones, and then close them and move to another place.
00:32:45.000I've got to barricade the door at night, because we've had them come and steal our money, rob things, try to plant things on us.
00:34:12.000I'm pretty freaked out right now since I'm here in the state of Iowa and I'm hearing all this stuff.
00:34:17.000I just heard the news on your radio the other day.
00:34:20.000And, uh, yeah, I got my calendar clear and I'm gonna go up to, uh, Arcadia, I think, on, uh, I think it's Saturday the 4th, it said in the article, and I'm gonna bring my video camera up there and see if I can put it together.
00:34:30.000Well, we need to go, people need to knock door to door and explain this is for gun confiscation, and people need to protest, stay there, and tell the troops, we don't want you coming to our door and saying we'd like to do a gun sweep, ma'am, in your home, you know, training to take over gun shops.
00:34:44.000And that's what this is, to go into the gun shops, get the list of firearms from the bad gun dealer, and go out and find out where they are.
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00:39:16.000Nathan, how close are you to Arcadia and the other town where they're going to be having the martial law takeover drill, gun confiscation drill, house to house, shutting the town down with checkpoints?
00:39:24.000Actually, I'm in South Central Iowa, about 45 minutes south of Des Moines, the capital.
00:39:31.000It's probably about 200 miles from where I live at, but, I mean, just, you know, getting up there and getting the footage and seeing what they're really doing up there is pretty important.
00:39:43.000Well, we've seen Marines and Army come up with police and the Marines and the Army will have guns and they'll say, turn your camera off, which is just absolute high treason against the First Amendment.
00:39:52.000You've got major lawsuits that happens.
00:39:54.000I'm also going up there and I am going to legally go after any of these traitors to America that try to violate my First Amendment.
00:40:45.000Yeah, I want to finish the Obama deception and just work 8 hours a day for a while and finally spend time with my family, but it doesn't look like I can.
00:41:04.000Have you been in an urban warfare drill, or do you have a comment on this?
00:41:07.000No, but I have a nephew that is in the reserves, and he's always going over to the states to do some work, to do inter-training with a lot of these little drills that they run.
00:41:18.000Oh, by the way, it's in the Toronto Star and other papers that they've signed a deal, and Congress said last year, we're not involved in this, we make war, we fund you, we're your boss.
00:41:27.000They said, no you're not, it's under PDD 51, but they will use Canadian and Mexican troops in the U.S.
00:41:34.000And one of the things that I came across this week, I actually contacted a friend on Facebook, and it's funny because he was a bully back in school days too, and now he claims that he works for the federal law enforcement in the United States.
00:41:48.000And he's up here training our law enforcement, I imagine, on how to kick in doors and things like that.
00:41:52.000Oh no, that's been on the news that the Texas State Police are up there training the folks in Canada on how to set up checkpoints and violate rights.
00:42:43.000The reason I called today This isn't just happening in Iowa.
00:42:48.000Just yesterday, my wife received a letter from the United States District Court, Southern District of Indiana, Laura A. Briggs, Clerk of the Court.
00:43:02.000If the answer is yes, please indicate whether you or another member of your household own guns, how many guns are owned, what kinds of guns are owned, handgun, rifle, shotgun, semi-automatic, etc.
00:43:13.000I think the reason for this is about a little over a year ago, the ATF telephoned me on my company cell phone, which is an unpublished number.
00:43:20.000If I called you on that phone, it would give you my company name, not me, and indicated they were at my house and needed to investigate some firearms I owned.
00:43:31.000On the way, I called a deputy sheriff friend of mine, asked him to meet me there.
00:43:34.000When I arrived at my house, there were two sheriff cars and an ATF agent and my friend.
00:43:40.000They went inside the ATF agent and questioned me about a couple of handguns I had purchased years and years before and I produced records showing that I had traded them into a gun dealer and he indicated they had been used in crime.
00:43:51.000And then he started questioning, he had a stack of paperwork on me asking me questions about other handguns I had purchased.
00:43:57.000I had recently purchased a pair of handguns and when you purchase two guns at a time In Indiana, they have to send a multiple purchase form to the government.
00:44:18.000And then I think it was one in 20 got a multi-hundred question.
00:44:21.000And it would ask you, do you own firearms?
00:44:23.000And now Obama's announced under the census, it's going to be monthly.
00:44:26.000And they claim under law, you've got to answer all the questions.
00:44:29.000When you don't, The Constitution says you've got to answer it every ten years, just how many people live there, for apportionment of your state representatives to the legislature.
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00:48:22.000Alright, we're going to go back to your calls to Australia and other places dealing with the gun confiscation drills going on all over the country, not just Iowa.
00:48:33.000We have a state rep coming on from Texas who's introduced a bill for sovereignty next hour for about 20 minutes and we have, it looks like the military is going to be coming on.
00:48:42.000Looks like we've got them coming on, so we'll see if that happens.
00:48:45.000I don't want to say more than that until we get them on.
00:48:58.000But I want to go to Rob Freeman, because we're going to get the fellow on from the 7-7 ripple effect who made the film, who mailed it out to a bunch of people.
00:49:12.000the 7-7 bombings, saying, look, here's evidence that it was an inside job, and they arrested him in Ireland, and they've got some extradition order now from England.
00:49:20.000He was supposed to get out today, but Anthony Hill has not been able to join us.
00:49:25.000So Rob Freeman, good friends with him.
00:49:33.000Actually, as we speak, Anthony John Hill has been released, and he was actually ransomed for the sum of 3,500 euros. - I guess.
00:49:48.000Again, this is for sending out a DVD to a judge in England about the trial on the three helpers of the 7-7 London bombings.
00:50:04.000And for people that aren't aware, that particular trial wound up in a mistrial last year and it's currently being retried.
00:50:12.000So knowing that nothing on this planet happens for no reason, certainly the timing is of interest that this particular arrest of Anthony John Hill would take place at the same time that this retrial is going on.
00:50:29.000And now what's happening, so we have Double Jeopardy, his film shows the mainstream media reports, and I remember that Scotland Yard was killing some of the Arabs that figured out it was a set-up, and this was on the news, but then it all was shut down.
00:50:57.000The interesting thing is that the people that were gunned down were actually the suicide bombers.
00:51:03.000And that's what the film lets everybody know, that it was reported on mainstream media that they were gunning down, I believe in Canary Wharf, or if I don't have the place exactly correct.
00:51:20.000These were the suicide bombers that were supposedly on the trains that they never caught.
00:51:26.000And they were the ones that were gunned down.
00:51:29.000So, you know, you've got that anomaly, but to me, one of the more interesting things is, and this fits in with 9-1-1 and what you've gone through trying to get the truth out to people.
00:51:45.000There's some interesting similarities there that should let everybody know that there is a new world order.
00:51:50.000It is not isolated to the United States.
00:51:56.000One of those things is the mock drills.
00:52:02.000If you wouldn't mind me focusing on that for just a moment, there were mock drills going on On the day of 9-1-1.
00:52:12.000Of the exact targets, the exact same place, exact same time being attacked.
00:52:16.000And yeah, we've covered that in TerrorStorm.
00:52:19.000It's covered even better because, you know, TerrorStorm just focuses on that for about 30 minutes, you know, in the 7-7 ripple effect.
00:52:24.000But just for time constraints, I mean, you can get into that if you'd like, but I really want to talk about Anthony and what he's dealing with right now and where these charges are going.
00:52:36.000But go ahead and into the drills briefly.
00:52:39.000Yeah, real briefly, the same exact scenario played out in Great Britain with the London bombings.
00:52:48.000There were mock drills going on the same day in the same places.
00:52:52.000And, you know, this should be a clear sign to people what they're dealing with, who the real terrorists are, so that everybody can put this in perspective and understand Why these things happen, and really the reason that all this is happening to Anthony John Hill right now is because he's exposed.
00:53:12.000Well, the establishment is now outlawed photographing police in England, but they've got six million cameras in London alone photographing somebody hundreds of times per day as they walk around.
00:53:22.000This is blown up in their face, though!
00:53:24.000Now everybody's watching 7-7, the ripple effect.
00:53:27.000Oh yeah, absolutely, and they're the most heavily surveilled people on the planet right now.
00:53:46.000Well, the charge is perverting the course of justice, and that's for sending this DVD to the judge so that he could know the truth while a trial was going on.
00:53:56.000This DVD was of a, in case people don't know, the listeners don't know, The 7-7 ripple effect was released on the 5th of November in 2007.
00:55:23.000So his free speech under the Magna Carta, which has been extended all over Europe and the United States, that's what our Bill of Rights is, is gone.
00:55:54.000So this is directly from, yes, it's directly from his solicitor, and he also has a third requirement that he has to sign in three times At a Garda station, which is the Irish police.
00:56:08.000And they're going ahead with the charges against him?
00:56:22.000Yes, there's been no British warrant produced and there has been no search warrant produced for the things that they confiscated from him.
00:56:31.000Well they're complete morons because this film was already very popular and I talked about on air how great it was and now it's going supernova.
00:56:38.000So everybody go get 7-7 Ripple Effect on the web.
00:56:41.000They're trying to take it down on a lot of sites.
00:56:43.000They're very upset by this because it proves exactly what they did.
00:56:47.000And that's why they want to shut the web down.
00:56:50.000Well and not only that but you know it for people that don't know much about him This is the same man who spent the last 10 years trying to raise the Ark of the Covenant in Ireland and knows the exact location of the entrance to the subterranean mergay down to a 6 foot by 6 foot square of grass.
00:57:14.000And they're not about to let him dig it because they know that it's there and they know that he would be the one to bring it up well the british lords do and then the queen and all them do claim that they have that i don't know if that's true but i know he's also done a lot of research on that very very interesting well we want to get him on i guess talk about that i guess he can't now talk oh we're going to let you go while we busy actually he could come on to talk about that i would think
00:57:39.000and i would love uh to see if we could schedule something like that for you because i think you're uh it this all has a tie into the new world order and it is a solution you know He's been a prolific researcher and been very effective in his film 77 ripple effect is just amazing.
00:57:57.000I don't know the man, but we'll talk to him then next week as this develops.
00:58:00.000Thank you so much for joining us, sir.
00:58:35.000Our men down under, we're going to go to a call from Australia here in just a moment before they hang up because I want to skip ahead to them and go back to other folks that are calling in.
00:58:42.000Your take on hearing about them putting a gag order on Mr. Hill for being able to come on this show?
00:58:48.000Well, similar things have happened in Australia with Australian detainees in Guantanamo Bay.
00:58:53.000They've come back to Australia and they've had gag orders on them and we really haven't heard their full stories.
00:58:57.000They call that a de-notice in England.
00:58:59.000They just tell the media to shut up too.
00:59:18.000I mean, we're just not sure where to go from here, Alex.
00:59:20.000I mean, bringing up children, you just want to know what to tell them and what to believe, and it's really hard in a climate such as this where if you believe there's a tyranny coming, or there's tyranny here, what do you do?
00:59:33.000And that's a lot of the big questions, and what do we tell our kids?
00:59:36.000That's what I wake up and think about every day.
00:59:38.000Our big frustration is we go around, as part of our TV show, we go around and talk to people on the street, and by and large, you tell them things exactly what you just described.
00:59:46.000You know, hey, listen, people are not able to talk freely about the things that they're experiencing.
00:59:51.000Well, what I hear more than anything is, well, we're at war.
00:59:54.000We need to wait and see what the government's going to do.
00:59:56.000We need to wait and see what's going to happen.
01:00:18.000Yeah man, I guess to cut it shorter, I should maybe submit some factual evidence about the situation in Australia with people waking up to 9-11 truth.
01:00:29.000I think there was a lot of people in January 2006 when it seems like some dissident Executive at Channel 10 on one of our freighter and mainstream networks broadcast 9-11 in plain sight.
01:00:46.000And I wouldn't, you know, recommend it as a breakthrough in these days because there's been a lot of, like, counter-attack and establishment hearings from the opposition.
01:00:56.000But at the time, for many Australians, they actually saw footage of 9-11 that in five years, incredulously, They had never witnessed in their life.
01:01:08.000And yet 9-11 was covered so much in Australia that it was impossible, and I'm sure your film crew there have witnessed this too, that it was impossible to witness any radio station news broadcast in the country on any given day without some mesh of the threat of terrorism and 9-11.
01:01:29.000And yet, and the television were over broadcasting and repeating all the footage that they claimed was the total Um, uh, a canon of footage.
01:01:43.000So it was, if you've been paying attention, it was obvious they had been blacking out, you know, stuff like live journalists in New York with dust all over them talking about, you know, witnessing all these explosions, everything, man.
01:01:59.000For me, so I woke up in January, 2006.
01:02:03.000But to say something in defence of Australians, and maybe your film crew there can speak of this, you know, the only kind of mainstream media where they actually attempted to confront us was in about April 2006 on the Australian Broadcasting Corporation on a radio show hosted by Adams.
01:02:28.000When he speaks with what he calls his Washington insider, Bruce Shapiro, and mockingly tell all of his listeners that they are mistaken about 9-11.
01:02:45.000You have Australia in one of the tightest, from what I've read, bubbles of information.
01:02:49.000Now that Australians are using the web and waking up, they're moving, saying, we're going to have Chinese-style censorship.
01:02:54.000You won't visit any alternative sites.
01:03:29.000Well, we like them, I mean, but we're all, a lot of people are from there, but the point is, go ahead and do an American imitation and make it better.
01:04:01.000I mean, on Jake, who called in, I mean, the big thing is that I think it was fascinating that In Plain Sight played on national television in Australia.
01:04:09.000That was a long time ago, but the big discussion now is that, I mean, the BBC piece about 9-11 aired a couple of months ago, and now that seems to have really polarised people's ideas on 9-11.
01:04:22.000The one attacking me or the other one?
01:04:24.000The one attacking Dylan Avery in particular.
01:04:26.000Yeah, Dylan's their favourite person in the interview.
01:04:29.000Yeah, and I mean, I remember seeing, I was talking to a teenage girl the next day, and she said, that guy, I mean, Dylan Avery, was such a, you know, bleep bleep bleep, and I said, but, do you see any bias in that piece whatsoever?
01:04:41.000She said, no, that guy's just a bleep bleep bleep.
01:04:43.000Yeah, well, people love to buy in, like the media's their friend, and, oh, we're seeing the idiots together, you know, we're...
01:04:51.000Alex, let me say this about Australia.
01:04:53.000Australia is a wonderful country, okay?
01:04:55.000And the people there are some of the nicest, friendliest people you're gonna meet anywhere.
01:05:02.000Which is why films like In Plain Sight actually get screened.
01:05:06.000Because, you know, that stuff is still possible.
01:05:08.000But, you know, about internet censoring.
01:05:10.000Because you brought that up just a second ago.
01:05:13.000Just before the new Prime Minister made an announcement that that would be something we would talk about, 60 Minutes ran a segment about child pornography and different types of pornography on the web.
01:05:23.000It was one of a number of current affairs stories about pornography in the space of about two weeks.
01:05:27.000And that's the demonizing, ready-for-web censorship.
01:05:46.000They're thinking about, oh, well, you know... Although, I mean, they're going to start taxing the web here in the name of pornography and everything else on the web.
01:05:53.000We're going to come back, take more of your phone calls.
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01:07:05.000The enemy struck America on September 11th, but who is the enemy?
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01:07:29.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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01:09:13.000Let's go to Ben in Iowa, where they're going to have the big lockdown, the couple towns and gun confiscation drills door-to-door with the Army.
01:10:09.000But I'd like to say that anybody in Iowa or anybody planning on going up, I could shout out my email address and I think that an organized protest would be better if anybody wants it.
01:11:02.000Well, you know what, I can't wait to see your production.
01:11:04.000I hope you guys send me a copy of it when that happens.
01:11:08.000And the website is tacticalrecon.com.au.
01:11:12.000And Americans will be able to get to it, maybe, but I guess Australians won't be able to get to infowars.com and prisonplanet.com soon, as announced.
01:11:21.000So for everybody that won't be able to listen to us, they're going to have firewalls up as well.
01:11:24.000Bye-bye, Australia, behind the Iron Curtain.
01:11:27.000And the Iron Curtain is descending ahead as well.
01:11:32.000We'll peek out from behind it sometime in the future and say good day.
01:11:35.000Well, I just hope folks value information.
01:11:37.000I mean, they should be upset that the government wants to keep them from... I mean, they've said they're not going to let the anti-government hate sites and dangerous alternative news... Let me tell you, in our show, we knock on a lot of doors, we ask a lot of questions, we're always in people's faces trying to get to the truth.
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01:15:12.000Forty hours or so, Minnesota, Texas, and some other states have introduced declaratory statements of reaffirming their Tenth Amendment rights.
01:15:20.000Other states are on the verge of passing or have passed Tenth Amendment bills saying no gun confiscation, no martial law.
01:15:27.000We had a state representative on who's introduced one in Montana that's already done two readings, has a good chance of passing right now in their session.
01:15:34.000But folks want a statement in Texas about sovereignty and that has indeed happened and during this week it got written up by Representative Leo Berman, representative of 6th Legislative District, Smith County, right here in the great state of Texas.
01:15:51.000And you can go up to Infowars.com and the sites and read HCR 50.
01:15:55.000But to go over that with us is the man that penned the bill and has now introduced it, Representative Leo Berman.
01:16:22.000What we're doing is reaffirming our sovereignty.
01:16:25.000We're telling Washington that if you're going to mandate anything on the state of Texas, If it's not fully contained in the U.S.
01:16:33.000Constitution, we're not going to do it.
01:16:36.000And the reason we're doing this, we're taking action, is because of the, we understand there's going to be a federal handgun registration.
01:16:43.000We don't want him to know where all of our guns are here in Texas.
01:16:48.000And also, there's another bill, a federal hate crimes bill.
01:16:51.000If you open up your Old Testament to the Bible and read in the Book of Exodus that homosexuality is an abomination, You could be charged with a crime under that bill, and that's exactly what's happening in Canada right now.
01:17:04.000So we're just saying, if it's not in the Constitution, don't tell us about it.
01:17:08.000Don't ask us to do it, because we're not going to do it.
01:17:12.000Why are resolutions needed like this, but not just resolutions, the states acting on these resolutions?
01:17:17.000I mean, you know, the unfunded mandates, federal gun restriction laws, Northcom announcing that they're going to be over the states and over state governors.
01:17:25.000I mean, we haven't seen this since the Civil War.
01:17:27.000Well, you're absolutely right, and you just answered the question yourself, Alex.
01:17:31.000They're running all over us, and they can't do that.
01:17:34.000We're going to reassert our rights under the 9th and 10th Amendments, and let Mr. Obama know, we don't want socialism in Texas.
01:17:42.000We don't want socialism anywhere in the United States.
01:17:46.000And if you're going to push us, we're going to push back.
01:17:49.000Well, for those that don't know, Bloomberg reports $9.7 trillion taken, not $840 billion, and now under the stimulus package it's basically total federalization, just all sorts of databases and federal control, and they're talking about now taking taxpayer money and giving hundreds of billions of dollars of it to corporations and private groups and individuals.
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01:18:32.000It's unbelievable, but this is a direct transfer of money from our kids and our grandkids in the future to people now.
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01:23:25.000He's introducing a larger 9th and 10th Amendment bill next week.
01:23:29.000Tell us the difference between these two bills and why you're doing it as two parts.
01:23:34.000And then as we see 29 states 28 states, this is the 29th about to declare.
01:23:40.000Some of them are even passing it, saying no to the system in the early 90s.
01:23:46.00014 states passed, East Colorado, California, and others.
01:23:49.000They're not talking about enforcing them.
01:23:51.000As things collapse, as the feds take our money, send a lot of it to foreign offshore banks, as the New York Times admits they're doing, they're buying up insurance corporations, other healthy banks, this vertical integration.
01:24:03.000Time Magazine had a headline last week, The New World Order, said a new bank of the world will regulate and control the U.S., will pay carbon taxes to them.
01:24:11.000So can you speak to the two bills and where you see this going as the feds basically try to federalize the states and what do you think is going to happen, sir?
01:24:24.000Well, let me answer your first question.
01:24:26.000First, you asked me about what I'm going to file next week.
01:24:29.000Next week, we're going to file a resolution which includes the 9th and the 10th Amendment.
01:24:53.000government, the federal government, is not dealing at all on illegal aliens, we're going to try and deal with 2 million illegal aliens right here in Texas.
01:25:02.000In fact, I filed 13 bills to deal with illegal aliens.
01:25:07.000They're costing us $4 billion a year in Texas and across the United States.
01:25:13.000I believe the number I saw was $338 billion a year.
01:25:18.000Which is more than what we're spending in Iraq.
01:25:21.000If we gave one-fourth of that $4 billion to the state police and commanded them, because they're so federalized, to go protect the border, they could protect that border and secure it, couldn't they?
01:25:32.000I mean, couldn't a billion dollars put thousands of state police on the border?
01:25:38.000And Alex, since you bring that up, I'm going to bring up something else here.
01:25:42.000If we can't deal with illegal aliens in Texas during this legislative session, I intend to announce my candidacy for Governor of Texas and use the executive power of the Office of Governor to do exactly as you just suggested, to deal with illegal aliens.
01:25:58.000We have a lot of people in Texas who don't want to touch them.
01:26:03.000I'm talking about statewide Republican leaders or statewide national leaders who have their heads buried in the sand.
01:26:10.000And when I ask them why they won't deal, their answer is they don't want to lose the Hispanic vote.
01:26:17.000And I asked him, what about your oath of office where you say you're going to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States and the state of Texas?
01:26:26.000And what about doing what's right instead of looking toward a Hispanic vote?
01:26:39.000Upwards of 80% of Hispanic Americans want to control the borders as well.
01:26:43.000They know that 100 million people down south with that country, admittedly, El Paso Times and Homeland Security saying on the verge, USA Today by the way, collapsing.
01:27:06.000The media acts like all Hispanics want an open border and make it some racial issue, when it's an issue of a third world narco-terrorist state to our south collapsing.
01:27:24.000There's an organization called the Texas Association of Business, which is our statewide chamber of commerce organization, and they want this large pool of cheap labor.
01:27:36.000But if people would just raise their wages up about 8% with our 6% unemployment rate in Texas, Americans will start taking all those jobs that illegal aliens hold right now.
01:27:50.000We've got to deal with them because we also have 25,000 Illegal aliens in our state prison and our county jails at a cost of $40 million a year.
01:28:01.000We're treating them for multi-drug resistant TB, polio, the plague, leprosy, malaria, Chagas disease.
01:28:25.000And we have some 35 bills that have been filed so far in Texas to deal with illegal aliens in Texas.
01:28:31.000And while we're talking about that, the stimulus package, somewhere in the stimulus package, it also maintains jobs for illegal aliens at the expense of U.S.
01:28:58.000Well, the first one I'm going to talk about is HCR 50, which reasserts our state's rights.
01:29:05.000Anybody in Texas can contact their own state representative and senators And ask them to support HCR, which means House Concurrent Resolution Number 50.
01:29:17.000When the bills concerning illegal aliens start being heard, you'll see that in every newspaper in the state, and people can come in and testify.
01:29:27.000They can call their representatives again, and senators, to ask them to support these bills.
01:29:33.000We don't want to continue to spend four billion dollars a year on illegal aliens.
01:29:38.000And by the way, that's a conservative number.
01:29:40.000I've seen Houston Chronicle articles with the headline, 200,000 illegals released from Houston jails in one year.
01:29:47.000I mean, I have had, I've pulled up in my parking lot at my office, one of my guys had an expired driver's license, and the police were saying, we now take you to jail for this, and I walked up, and I said, And the police all knew me from a local TV show, and I said, I said, if he was an illegal alien, you wouldn't take him to jail.
01:30:42.000At Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Texas, 70% of the new births are of illegal aliens.
01:30:50.000At John Peter Smith Hospital, the public hospital in Fort Worth, Seventy-five percent of the new births are of illegal aliens.
01:30:58.000We're paying them to keep putting out one baby a year, and these women keep going back in the hospital.
01:31:05.000They keep getting prenatal care, they give birth to a child.
01:31:08.000Then they get all the welfare, then with matricular cards, and then banks give them bank IDs, then they get other IDs, and they get... I've seen cases where one woman's on like eight or nine different types of welfare.
01:31:20.000But Alex, the worst thing of all, When they leave that hospital, we give their children citizenship of the United States, our most precious benefit.
01:31:29.000We're giving away to people who are committing a crime against the United States, and I'm challenging automatic citizenship under the 14th Amendment as well.
01:31:39.000Well, Mr. Berman, I'm going to support you for governor, because Kay Bailey Hutchinson is for open borders, and Rick Perry, well, what do you say about him?
01:31:50.000He's one of those who told me that he doesn't want to lose the Hispanic vote.
01:31:54.000But 80%, I've seen the Gallup polls, of Hispanics... I mean, know that this is killing America?
01:32:05.000And the feds love it because they can come in and federalize!
01:32:07.000You wouldn't know it from the 32 Hispanic representatives who serve in the Texas House of Representatives.
01:32:13.000They want to give more benefits to illegal aliens while we're trying to take them away.
01:32:18.000We complained to the Banking Commissioner early last year, when we start seeing signs outside the bank saying, we accept the matricula consula, the phoniest identification document I've ever seen in the world.
01:32:33.000Yeah, we had the Republican head of the State House in Colorado on a few years ago himself, went out in one day, got four fake matriculas for himself.
01:32:49.000Do you know what the number is going to be on the next bill?
01:32:52.000No, I won't know it until we actually file the bill, but you can bring up my name under the Texas Legislative website, and you'll find it right under my name.
01:33:03.000Yeah, I've got a copy of it in here, and it's really strong.
01:33:20.000We'd have to call the House Resolutions Committee and make sure it gets out of committee, and then once it gets to the House floor, Then we have to start calling every representative to make sure they understand that they should be supporting HCR 50.
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01:40:25.000But we're going to get into the Daily Times Herald, Carroll, Iowa, the gun confiscation drills.
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01:49:11.000It's actually a planned training event to provide our soldiers with greater proficiency at what we call Coordinate Search, which is a mission that, just for a little background, we've deployed nearly 13,000 members of the Iowa National Guard in the Global War on Terror.
01:49:29.000And the vast majority of those have been in Iraq and Afghanistan.
01:49:32.000And one of the missions that they perform in Iraq and Afghanistan on multiple occasions is coordinate search, where basically you are trying to get to an area, coordinate off to make sure everything's safe, and then actually search for caches of weapons or other kinds of contraband which could harm American forces. and then actually search for caches of weapons or other Like Fallujah, what we saw in Fallujah.
01:49:56.000So because of where we're located in Iowa, there are no active duty bases in Iowa, so we kind of have to create our own urban training environments.
01:50:04.000So the plan on this particular training event was to actually use a small town of about 450 people that, The town has actually kind of adopted the unit, which is called Company A, 1st Battalion, 168th Infantry.
01:50:19.000It really has adopted the unit, considers them their soldiers, and they were more than willing to participate in the exercise.
01:50:27.000Okay, sir, depending on how many questions I can ask, can we have you for another 20 minutes or so?
01:50:38.000Specifically, this is a very well-informed audience, and I know all this training has dual use.
01:50:44.000You certainly know about PDD 51 and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, that the National Guard is being federalized now, and that the Pentagon three months ago announced that, and that the governors will serve as dual-hatted officers, as federal officers.
01:50:59.000Or if you're not aware of this, you can tell us.
01:51:01.000But they're also saying that they're going to have $20,000 as part of the brigade's homeland for civil insurrection, for rioting.
01:51:10.000And I've been to urban warfare drills over the years.
01:51:16.000Let's pull up some of my Urban Warfare footage I shot myself with the Marines and Army.
01:51:19.000The Marines are now running DUI checkpoints.
01:51:22.000Homeland Brigades, they're going to help at car wrecks with the jaws of life.
01:51:26.000So I'm just laying out some facts there.
01:51:28.000Are you aware that there's now a massive domestic role for the regular Army and National Guard in the United States?
01:51:36.000Well, I think you have to look historically, is that that domestic role really has been filled by the National Guard across the United States for decades.
01:51:46.000For instance, last summer we had incredibly historic floods.
01:51:50.000Here in the state, the number one response force for many military is always the National Guard in their home state.
01:51:57.000And we deployed more than 4,000 people last summer to fight floods in Iowa.
01:52:02.000That being said, if there are other kinds of response necessary in the state, and typically the responses that we really have to do with are most of the time natural disasters.
01:52:12.000But in the event of other disasters, let's say some kind of weapons of mass destruction or some other kind of incident, we'd be also called upon to do that.
01:52:19.000So I do have some visibility on that duty as well.
01:52:22.000Colonel, if you are ordered to confiscate citizens' firearms under PDD 25 or PDD 51, are you going to follow that order?
01:52:32.000With respect to any kind of duty that we perform in Iowa, it kind of depends on which status it's in, about who we take orders from, number one.
01:52:41.000If it is in a peacetime situation, the vast majority of the time, any kind of request for assistance comes from the governor of the state of Iowa.
01:52:50.000I can tell you that the order of which you just spoke has never been received by the Iowa National Guard.
01:52:57.000And I can tell you that you will not find stronger defenders of the Constitution than the men and women of the Iowa National Guard.
01:53:06.000Well, I remember back in 2002 seeing local newscasts with Iowa National Guard, not in drills, but out on the highways searching cars and then telling the news cameras to turn off.
01:53:17.000Were you in the Guard then or were you aware of that?
01:53:19.000I'm in the Guard for 23 years and I've never heard of that.
01:53:23.000I've been a member of the Iowa National Guard since 1986.
01:53:28.000I've been in public affairs since 1991.
01:53:30.000I do not recall ever hearing of a situation such as that.
01:53:34.000Well, let's just boil it down to this.
01:53:36.000I have video of Army and Marines with role players screaming, I'm an American, please don't put me in the camp.
01:53:43.000And the military trying to confiscate their firearms.
01:53:45.000I mean, certainly you've heard the Army Times and the new director from Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, that they will use the National Guard under federal control for civil insurrection.
01:53:55.000Are you saying you're not aware of that?
01:53:57.000No, I'm certainly aware of that, absolutely.
01:53:58.000But I think you have to look at the role of the National Guard historically.
01:54:02.000Historically, we are used in states for disasters, overwhelmingly.
01:54:09.000And our job is to, number one, be ready for our mission federally, which is to go to war.
01:54:17.000And number two is to help our fellow citizens here in the United States of America.
01:54:20.000Those are the things that we prepare for and train for.
01:54:23.000The Army War College three weeks ago issued a report saying they're shifting a lot of their focus to engaging the American people and directives on engagement with the American people under NORTHCOM.
01:54:35.000Now this isn't, you know, NORTHCOM isn't, you know, part of our history.
01:54:40.000The National Guard being federalized as a full integrated force, that is new, that is different.
01:54:47.000Well, you've got to remember that the National Guard, 99% of the time, if you're talking about peacetime, belongs to the state in which they are located.
01:54:57.000Only on occasion do they become federalized.
01:54:59.000One of those examples, of course, is being mobilized and deployed to go to war or peacekeeping or other kinds of federalized missions.
01:55:06.000But other than that, the National Guard generally, in peacetime, belongs to the governor of that state.
01:55:17.000We know that they're federalizing the police.
01:55:19.000We know that National Guard and Regular Army on ABC News and NBC in high and dry areas went in, hand-guffed Americans and confiscated their firearms in New Orleans and surrounding areas.
01:55:31.000We know that city officials were told to stand down.
01:55:35.000We also know that I've had state reps on, probably more than 20 of them in the last three weeks.
01:55:40.000Saying they're passing 10th Amendment resolutions preparing to tell the state police and others to resist federal occupation of the states because the Pentagon's directive says that the governors will be federal officers serving at the pleasure of the president and that the Congress Under PDD 51.
01:56:19.000Politics, I leave that to the politicians as well.
01:56:22.000But what if they told you about the President?
01:56:23.000We're hearing about this new oath to the President.
01:56:25.000I mean, have they explained that the Congress is co-equal, at least with the Executive?
01:56:31.000I mean, the Constitution clearly sets aside the three brands of government as the defining way in which we find our political means here in the United States of America, and I would defer to the Constitution.
01:56:43.000That's heartening, because this is mainstream news that for a year the Homeland Security Committee in Congress has asked to see PDD 51 in its entirety.
01:56:52.000You know, the front page says the President's a dictator under any emergency, and they're not allowed to see it.
01:56:56.000I mean, that sounds like some third-world country.
01:57:01.000I mean, what I can tell you about what we do here in Iowa is, number one, defend the Constitution of the United States.
01:57:07.000And number two, provide assistance to the people of Iowa in times of need.
01:57:11.000Those are the things that we're concerned about.
01:57:13.000Those are the things that we train about.
01:57:14.000All right, let me just ask you this question, sir.
01:57:20.000Can you go over, I guess, did you or someone else give an interview to this Daily Times-Herald?
01:57:25.000Because this has them shutting down part of the town, filling door to door, and asking about firearms and pictures on the walls, asking where's the arms dealer.
01:57:38.000And now we're hearing the military may be used, you know, to go after guns.
01:57:42.000I mean, I'm having congressmen on about this.
01:57:45.000Sir, I mean, I've had two congressmen on the show who were threatened with martial law by the presidency under Bush if they didn't pass the bailout bill.
01:57:53.000I'm just trying to educate you, but obviously you know all this.
01:57:55.000I mean, tell us what's going on with the drill.
01:57:58.000I mean, is this accurate, what's in the article?
01:58:01.000Well, what I can tell you from the article is that, again, it's simply a training event.
01:58:04.000We are simulating Those kinds of environments that our soldiers go into in Iraq and Afghanistan specifically, in harm's way, to conduct these kinds of missions.
01:58:14.000Again, we don't have any kind of extensive urban training environment.
01:58:18.000in the state of Iowa as we don't have any active duty bases here.
01:58:22.000That being said, it's our job to be able to give our taxpayers the absolute best value we can for their dollar by providing our soldiers with the best training possible with those resources that we have.
01:58:34.000It has to do with training for combat missions.
01:58:37.000Not for any kind of mission here in the United States?
01:58:41.000Sir, they've had urban warfare drills with the Marines and the Army all over the country, right next to military bases.
01:58:48.000And I always hear this psy-op, you know, as the people are subdued in the Info War, that, oh, we need this for real life, you know, this and that.
01:58:57.000I'm showing on screen right now video of Marines interrogating role players saying that they're from San Francisco.
01:59:03.000Okay, on screen right now they're asking the guy, the role player, where he's from.
01:59:20.000I know they tried to hire Smedley Butler, who was the top Marine in the country, to have martial law in 35.
01:59:25.000I mean, sir, you know historically there's a danger of militaries being used by the executive branch to subdue populations, and there's talk of breakdown of society and rioting right now?
01:59:35.000Well, I mean, what I can tell you is only what we do here in Iowa.
01:59:38.000And that's to be prepared to go to war, be prepared to help people here in the United States.
02:00:20.000That's the whole point we're trying to make, Colonel.
02:00:23.000The point that I'm trying to make is you've trotted out this parade of horribles, of which I can't possibly comment.
02:00:30.000All I can tell you about is what we do here in Iowa to get ready.
02:00:32.000That's specifically what I'm going to talk to you about.
02:00:35.000Yes, sir, Colonel, we appreciate that.
02:00:36.000We respect the fact that you're being cordial while you're being interrogated.
02:00:40.000It's just we're upset because we're educated, we know what's going on, and people are going to remember what you've said here today as things unfold.
02:00:48.000Understand, we've told the whole world what's going on.
02:00:53.000But, you know, you've got to really be having your head in the sand to not see what's going on.
02:00:58.000I know this has dual use in Macedonia or Iraq or Afghanistan, but I know, and we've interviewed generals, we've interviewed the former head of special forces on this show.
02:01:11.000And I'm telling you, you can't deny what's happening.
02:01:14.000Don't be like the people of Germany or Russia, the military that denied, denied, denied what was right in front of their face.
02:01:19.000Again, I can just tell you what I see here in front of me every day.
02:01:28.000I see 9,500 men and women that are committed to liberty, that are committed to the United States of America, committed to the state of Iowa, doing the absolute best that they can do to take care of people.
02:02:05.000The Laird News Hour has reported, as well as the other programs of Bill Moyers, that mercenaries were also used from Israel and Blackwater.
02:02:34.000Now, Colonel, you're laughing a little.
02:02:35.000You certainly know that Mexican tribes in New Orleans, in Houston, in Austin, in San Antonio gave support to the effort That's the first I've heard of it.
02:02:58.000I want to give you a few minutes to just, you know, talk about whatever you'd like, and then I'd like to do a final five minutes with you going through this article, explaining exactly what they're going to do door-to-door with the houses, what the checkpoints are going to be simulating.
02:03:11.000When you're talking about coordinate search operations, you've got several different rings of security that you've got to provide in a particular area.
02:03:18.000And then it's important that people are treated respectfully as you go house to house, as you're looking for certain items, particularly in our experience in Afghanistan and Iraq, looking for weapon caches, whether those have AK-47s, RPGs, rocket-propelled grenades, that is, any kind of ammunition or any kind of improvised explosive devices, etc., etc.
02:03:41.000And our job, when we go on a cordoned search, is to locate those kinds of items, and then there might also be persons of interest that we're interested in, that coalition forces want to talk to or apprehend.
02:03:51.000So, I mean, simply because of the environment in which we live in Iowa, that we don't have an active duty base, that we don't have a very extensive urban terrain environment available to us for training, then we have to get creative, and we do occasionally go into communities and work side-by-side with them to use the communities for our training.
02:04:11.000You know, Colonel, I find it really hard to believe that you don't know about what the Guard did in Iowa in 2002 when it was on the local newscast.
02:04:29.000I mean, I've had all these former top JAG officers on saying this is police state, martial law, the news admits that's what's being set up.
02:04:37.000They've built FEMA camps, it's in the news, millions of plastic coffins.
02:04:42.000And we know this has been quietly being built and designed over decades.
02:04:47.000And all these states are revolting against it, and then I talk to the military, and it's just, oh no, this is for overseas, or we're only here to help with, I mean, don't you admit this could be used, dual use, and could acclimate the local citizenry and the population to have their guns confiscated?
02:05:03.000I mean, that's what happened in New Orleans.
02:05:05.000All I can tell you is what our intent is.
02:05:07.000And our intent is to provide prepared soldiers so they're ready to go when it comes time for them to go someplace very dangerous.
02:05:15.000For them to not only do their mission successfully, but survive and come home to their families.
02:05:19.000Those are the things that we do and what we seek.
02:05:21.000Did you hear about Governor Blagojevich four months ago before he got disgraced?
02:05:24.000Said they were going to use the National Guard in Illinois for door-to-door gun confiscation.
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02:09:10.000Colonel, are you guys going to have any live ammo or will it be blanks, flashbangs?
02:09:16.000We've seen other drills where the Army blows up cars here in Texas, and then the Mayor announces they've really been attacked by terrorists with a Psy-Op, and then a day later announced they hadn't in Belton.
02:09:27.000I mean, it really depends on where it is that we're training and what the actual task is.
02:09:31.000Generally in training, we use blank ammunition.
02:09:34.000And only under very carefully controlled circumstances at a facility that can really handle a lot of live ammunition would we go to a live fire exercise.
02:09:44.000But generally in the state of Iowa, while we're training, it's always with some kind of blank ammunition.
02:10:21.000With respect to active duty military, that's called Title 10 when you're on active duty, and they're not allowed to participate in certain kinds of operations under the Posse Comitatus Act.
02:10:35.000We got secret memorandums at an army checkpoint in I-35.
02:10:40.000Back in 1998, it's in my film, Police State 2 The Takeover, and the FBI showed up, because the Army was telling us to get out of there, so they called the FBI, and the guy gave us the cover sheet, but actually stapled, Secret Memorandum, marked Restricted, 477 counties saying, we want to help you with warrant service at homes, we're here to help you.
02:10:59.000Do you guys have secret memorandums like that in Iowa?
02:11:01.000No, we don't participate in those kind of operations.
02:11:04.000You ever heard of any other states doing that?
02:11:23.000Does that sound like freedom to you, all over the country, to have the National Guard at big events like the Kentucky Derby and the Super Bowl searching bags?
02:11:30.000Well, I think if you're talking about keeping Americans safe, it's our job to do whatever we can to help them with that.
02:11:37.000And if our job happens to be to detect weapons of mass destruction, or other kinds of things that could harm a great deal of people, that's what we do.
02:11:47.000Certainly, again, we absolutely believe in the Constitution, and you won't find better patriots than people in the National Guard.
02:11:54.000Last time I was down in Central America, there was military out searching people.
02:11:58.000To me, is that the classic image of freedom?
02:12:01.000Keeping us safe from WMDs, searching three-year-olds' purses?
02:12:06.000Well, I mean, all I can tell you is what we do here in Iowa and what we see in our operations.
02:12:12.000For instance, we were just asked to take part in the inauguration in Washington, D.C.
02:12:16.000Our job there was to help make sure people got in the right places, make sure that people were safe, and those are the kinds of missions that we're generally asked to do.
02:12:25.000But you're saying that's not a violation of posse comitatus to have the National Guard now completely federalized searching people's bags?
02:12:33.000In fact, what I can tell you about the Iowa National Guard is we're generally in a state status on operations, unless of course we're deployed for war, then we'd be in a federal status.
02:12:43.000But generally, if we're going to work here in the United States somewhere, we're generally on a state status of some kind.
02:12:50.000Are you guys getting a lot of phone calls about this right now?
02:12:54.000We actually have gotten a number of phone calls about this, but I think the biggest misnomer is that once people find out If the actual mission is about replicating training so we can go to war, then they're okay with that.
02:13:06.000I think it's a misconception that has anything to do with other than combat readiness.
02:13:12.000Yeah, well, I've seen the documents, interviewed folks above your pay grade.
02:13:15.000Lieutenant Colonel, I'm sorry to tell you, you are wrong.
02:13:17.000You're being acclimated yourself, the police are being acclimated, the local community is being acclimated.
02:13:22.000For martial law, the FEMA camps are now public, no more denial.
02:13:25.000Lieutenant Colonel Greg Hapgood, we appreciate your time.
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