Alex Jones talks about the White House's latest assault on the Second Amendment and calls for all Americans to join the fight to protect our Second Amendment rights. Alex also talks about D.O.D. in sale of expended metal brass to re-manufacturers.
00:01:02.000I'll bet I got over 100 emails warning me about the draconian gun registration bill that had been introduced in Congress, which would make everybody get psychological testing, make you pay a yearly registration fee for each firearm, make you go through a federal shooting course, just the end of the Second Amendment, I would add.
00:01:21.000And every time I tune into Neocontact Radio, they say it's just a rumor that it passed in the $787 million stimulus bill.
00:01:32.000They passed the psychological testing part of it through the federalization of medicine and Mental records, psychological records, going back even into junior high and high school for everybody, snatching all those up and paying billions, what is it, nine billion dollars to have private firms put all that data into databases for them.
00:01:54.000You're already hearing how police may have had post-traumatic stress at one time after a shooting, or military people suddenly are losing their peace officer license, or they can't buy firearms, it's all over the newspapers.
00:02:05.000So yes, they did pass The exact identical subsections that were in there, part of H.R.
00:02:15.000That's what they do, is they try to pass, it's like the Patriot Act, they tried to pass that for two decades through Congress, in piecemeal and in whole.
00:02:24.000Just like the omnibus crime bill of 1996, they tried to pass that for a decade before.
00:02:31.000But this goes, continues, I was really glad to see Tom Gresham's host of Gun Talk Radio and editor, writer, television host on Self Defense TV and one of the foremost gun spokesmen come out and tell everybody to stop worrying about legislation so absolutely over the top it would never get out of the committee.
00:02:49.000The point is that Obama's favorite Congress people introduced this and Rahm Emanuel introduced this last year when he was in the House.
00:02:56.000So the point is this is what the White House wants.
00:03:07.000Tom said, save your energy for when we really need it.
00:03:10.000Don't expend it trying to warn everyone in your email list about legislation that would go nowhere.
00:03:16.000No, we need to know that the White House was moving with the most draconian gun control legislation, victim disarmament legislation ever seen.
00:03:26.000Now Tom just interviewed me and Larry Haney, owner of Georgia Firearms, on the Gun Talk Radio Show, and Tom agrees, now is the time to unleash the hounds, by which he means start emailing and writing your Senators and Congressmen.
00:03:44.000Now it has come clear, now we know what they intend to do.
00:03:54.000They don't need to fight a massive battle to attempt gun registration or limit assault weapons.
00:04:00.000Nope, all they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless.
00:04:14.000California and other states have passed laws to make all guns sold in their state stamp The name, make and model basically of the gun, an identifying number to that that's tied to when you purchase the gun is a registration form.
00:04:31.000That will bankrupt a lot of gun manufacturers who then have to buy at the expense of patent for the gun stamping.
00:04:38.000a pro-gun groups who came up with it, and that's in quotes.
00:04:42.000It also then allows them in the future to say, oh, we're going to ban or restrict guns that don't have this.
00:04:56.000and And then when we were covering that state police file calling Ron Paul supporters basically terrorists, it had a whole section in there about how they need to get the police behind bullet stamping.
00:05:11.000And they're also trying to restrict the importation of ammunition, the importation of firearms.
00:05:18.000The Feds are moving to regulate and shut down a lot of ammunition producers.
00:05:24.000Both the producers that create, you know, entire bullets and casings, but also those that just produce the lead.
00:05:31.000They're trying to restrict lead bullets, saying it's bad for the environment.
00:05:34.000They're trying to restrict who can produce the brass.
00:05:38.000But now the military, which was the largest source of used shell casings, They're going to destroy it and sell it for scrap when they get a lot less money for the scrap than they would just selling the spent casings.
00:05:57.000Just billions and billions of 9mm, .45, .50 cal, .223, .308.
00:06:04.000And that's what's being announced here.
00:06:07.000Major bullet manufacturers all across the United States are getting letters from the military saying, by law, but it's not a law, it's a regulation, we are no longer going to sell you any of the casings.
00:06:24.000And that's the story from the Shootist up at InfoWars.com right now.
00:06:33.000Nope, all they had to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless.
00:06:39.000Here are copies of two letters sent to Georgia Arms just Thursday evening, effectively canceling a contract.
00:06:46.000He had to purchase 30,000 pounds of expended military brass in .223, 7.62, and .50 caliber.
00:06:54.000And it goes on to say, Dear Valued Customer.
00:06:56.000And it's a letter from the Defense Department saying you can't buy this from us anymore.
00:07:00.000Under regulations, not a law, the White House says it's all to be scrapped.
00:07:07.000So, that's just another way that they're doing this and it's been confirmed in the last five, six years that the military is buying up more ammo than is being used in afghanistan in iraq in other areas of the world where u.s.
00:07:23.000militaries in a hundred and thirty plus countries that they're just hoarding it and warehousing and that's driven up the prices doubled or tripled in some cases and now with all the fear of obama moving is the second amendment even bigger runs against ammo and firearms themselves are celebrating so it's a lengthy article goes uh... through it and it's just uh... outrageous on that front you know i covered last week several mainstream news articles one out of uh...
00:07:49.000Oklahoma, several others around the nation, where cities are saying, we don't know if citizens can have gardens, because we might need inspections of their gardens, because you're guilty until proven innocent, and people might be growing marijuana.
00:08:03.000Coming up later, I want to get into a report out of Natural News, with Mike Adams, who was on with Jason Burmess, filling in yesterday.
00:08:10.000Shocking video shows Los Angeles City bulldozing community gardens into the dirt.
00:08:15.000They're just saying, no more community gardens, giant community gardens, bulldozing and getting rid of it.
00:08:20.000Saying that they don't need that anymore.
00:08:23.000There's all these people out there crying and the police getting in their faces.
00:08:27.000Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is in the San Francisco Chronicle saying they need a federal bailout of newspapers that are failing because the mainstream media is imploding because everybody knows they're a pack of spin doctors.
00:08:53.000And this is out of Politico, and they admit the Bilderberg group is real.
00:08:56.000And that's better than most mainstream media.
00:08:58.000And CBS News picked this up and admitted that we were right, admitted that Bilderberg is secret, and basically admitted that Barack Obama was having secret meetings with him and is appointing Bilderberg group members.
00:09:09.000You have to understand, this is happening simultaneously while mainstream news is still saying it doesn't exist.
00:09:14.000You know, and then I went to a hotel and imagined people hiding behind trees in Virginia.
00:09:23.000Just like Time Magazine Newsweek, everybody's announcing a new Bank of the World to rule the planet.
00:09:31.000In fact, I've got some filmmakers coming here in a few minutes.
00:09:33.000Guys, turn that TV on over there for me, because I want to pull up, and now for world government, from the Sunday Times of London, and I also want to pull up Time Magazine headline, New World Order, where they say a global government run by the banks, but that it's good.
00:09:50.000Because these guys may actually burst into flame when they see that, because, you know, the New World Order doesn't exist.
00:09:54.000So we're gonna, we're gonna, hundreds of mainstream news articles have now come out saying everything we've always said.
00:10:00.000And, and, and, so I want to show them this, and, and, and, and see if it's like a big cross or holy water, and, and see if they burst into flames, uh, when, um, these guys come into studio, Luke Meyer and Andrew Neal.
00:10:15.000So that is, uh, coming up in the next segment.
00:10:17.000They'll be with us for the rest of the hour.
00:10:21.000By the way, their film is the main selection of the Independent Film Channel this year.
00:10:25.000Their one big documentary of the year.
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00:13:27.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:13:29.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
00:16:56.000So, tell folks about the film, The New World Order.
00:17:00.000New World Order is basically, I guess we call it a behind-the-scenes documentary about what people refer to in America as conspiracy theorists.
00:17:09.000So, I guess it's sort of a behind-the-scenes look at what your life is like, Alex, a little bit, and other people that we traveled around.
00:17:17.000Jim Tucker, Jack McClam, Luke Rudowsky.
00:17:22.000Mike Edgerton and a number of other Seth Jacksons.
00:17:28.000And that, individually speaking, is Andrew and Neil.
00:17:50.000I think this is... Well, I think for us, what was important to us is that there's... First of all, Alex, you make many films about it, but there's a lot of films out there about a lot of these topics.
00:17:58.000And for us, what was really important was to understand what it was like to live the lives of filmmakers, of radio hosts, of ambush journalists, of muckraking reporters who do the kind of work you're doing.
00:18:11.000Which is generally, you know, considered to be by a lot of people, you know, kind of far out there.
00:18:16.000And we wanted to know what it was like to be you guys and to live your lives a little bit.
00:18:22.000And also, really importantly, sorry, just not to cut you off.
00:18:28.000How you came to believe what you believe, you know?
00:18:31.000I think understanding other human beings and why they believe what they believe is a valuable thing and I think more of that would be a good thing for Humanity.
00:18:41.000Well, I was just going to say, I think this is the fairest documentary, and there's been quite a few that I've been featured in.
00:19:08.000I'm curious that you feel like It's actually, there were more laughs in the audience on Friday night than I think we were expecting.
00:19:15.000We didn't know if that was possibly because a lot of the people there knew you, and so it was sort of like there was a, there was sort of an inside joke going on.
00:19:24.000But I think that there's no question that Luke and I do see comedy in everything.
00:19:31.000Even in horrible things that are happening in the world, there is a certain part of the world that I see, sort of from the point of view of Voltaire, of you know, just the human, The human comedy is just a complicated mess.
00:19:49.000And I do see humor in that, even when stuff is serious.
00:19:53.000So I suppose that's sort of my own, or our own, take on the whole thing.
00:19:57.000But I think, by and large, I thought, besides some comic relief, I thought... Well, Tommy Pallotta thought, a director and producer, he thought that it humanized us, that it was a positive thing overall.
00:20:17.000If it's all serious, people sometimes just turn off eventually.
00:20:20.000Especially people... If there's a moment of laughter, of humanity, and then a moment where things are serious, that going back and forth makes the audience kind of pay attention.
00:20:32.000I mean, one of the things that really... One of your sound bites, actually, that we added in late was your comment about, you know, a lot of people say that conspiracy theorists, you know, believe this stuff because it makes the world a simpler place or it makes the world knowable to them or whatever.
00:20:48.000And actually, I think the film is evidence of a great deal of stress, worry, and discontent that one must accept if they're going to accept the worldview that people like you, Alex, have taken on.
00:21:05.000I think that's a bit the thesis doesn't work like obviously It's you're not doing it for some kind of satisfaction because like you're under a tremendous amount of stress You know in terms of your daily lives and and like you said like you know you wake up in the middle of the night sometimes and like You're genuinely afraid of what the future holds.
00:21:28.000And I think a lot of people generally try to adopt a belief, you know, sometimes be it religion, be it political ideology, whatever it is, so that they don't have to wake up in the middle of the night.
00:21:42.000Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer, SeeThink Studios, the official film of the year being put out by the Independent Film Channel, and I'm very honored to be part of it.
00:23:25.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:23:27.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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00:25:38.000The new film is titled New World Order, a Seethink film.
00:25:43.000And just before we forget the time we have together, because it'll fly, Luke Meyer and Andrew, tell us specifically when it's coming out, when it's going to air on the Independent Film Channel.
00:25:55.000It's going to be in mid-April, I think around... I think about a month from now it'll be on VOD on IFC and then later this summer it'll be in the regular broadcast rotation.
00:26:05.000Actually sometime in May, I think the broadcast rotation will start.
00:26:10.000And then the DVD will be out sometime this fall.
00:26:15.000Um, you guys just come in and run the camera.
00:26:23.000We're just working out doing a live TV show in here and we're going to get more cameras in here, something mounted on the ceiling and other things for TV like a headpiece and things like that someday.
00:26:33.000Um, what about all this pre-promotion I've been seeing for the film?
00:26:40.000Well, this was the world premiere last Friday night, and so there's a lot of promotion that you were part of, where you drove around Austin on Friday, just for the world premiere of the film.
00:26:53.000There probably will be more promotion when it's going to come out on IFC, but that's kind of all I know about right now.
00:26:59.000Now, should folks just visit the New World Order, themovie.com, or is there a Seethink site they should check out?
00:27:04.000You can go to Seethink.com, and there's a small page for it there, and then you can link to the main New World Order, themovie.com from there, or you can go straight to the movie site, whichever's best.
00:27:16.000I specifically want to go over some reviews.
00:27:43.000It says, Welcome to the New World Order where 9-11 was an inside job and secret of elitist organizations called the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission and or the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:27:51.000Now we explain there are different governmental systems just like we have a House and a Senate.
00:27:56.000It doesn't mean either one of them doesn't exist.
00:27:59.000exists, the House, the Senate, the Judiciary, the Legislature, the Executive exist.
00:28:03.000And it goes on, our only hope is a ragtag band of conspiracy theorists, anarchists, and anti-globalists led by the mad prophet of the Infowars, Alex Jones.
00:28:14.000That Meyer and Neal aren't concerned about the reality of these beliefs, and they don't present any counter-arguments or talking head rebuttals.
00:28:23.000Actually, there are people in there rebutting.
00:28:48.000It's impossible to be politically active.
00:28:50.000And if you can convince yourself that you're one of the few in the know about what's really going on in the world, one of the few fighting for good, fight against forces that's been on destroying you, well, then you have a lot in common with Jones, Radowsky, Jackson and the rest.
00:29:06.000And then he goes on to say I'm insane.
00:29:33.000And, uh, you know, there was absolutely no question.
00:29:35.000This is something I wanted to talk about on the show because I wanted to make it clear, and we had a discussion that night in the hotel room about it.
00:29:42.000You know, there's no question, first of all, in my mind, that there were people the night before at the bar Who were in there, who were, you know, doing some kind of recon of some sort.
00:29:54.000And then, the next morning, there's absolutely no question that we were being, in my opinion, we were being followed.
00:30:09.000I mean, it's the classic FBI slash, you know, Army commando.
00:30:13.000I mean, he was either FBI or he was Army commando.
00:30:15.000Well, I mean, specifically, I would...
00:30:17.000I mean, that was like, that's something that, you know, that's, that, and I felt like we showed it pretty accurately.
00:30:23.000But I mean, how can they not show guys with black sunglasses in police vehicles with police wearing black glasses pointing at us and those don't exist?
00:30:36.000And that's part of, you know, that's part of, you know, the power of interpretation.
00:30:40.000I think a lot of people will come to this film with preconceived ideas, and I think that's why you're going to see a broad variety of responses to it.
00:30:47.000You know, some people are going to come with preconceived notions that this is all whack job stuff, and they're going to leave, and maybe it won't change their mind.
00:30:55.000And maybe they're going to come in believing all of it, and maybe they'll leave believing all of it.
00:30:59.000I mean, you know, what we hope is that we did show what you guys were like, what your experiences had been, and why you believed in what you believed.
00:31:08.000And through that, to humanize you, to take you out of this kind of cliched environment where, you know, you're just kind of ranting at the margins, which really is a danger for your message, you know?
00:31:23.000And so, you know, I hope that it would affect things positively in that way.
00:31:29.000Yeah, um, when we were having test screenings, it was very interesting that people would watch the same film and some people would have a totally negative reaction to everything in there.
00:31:38.000They would think that everything in the whole film wasn't true.
00:31:41.000And there'd be other people in the same audience that would think everything in there was totally true and totally, um, that it was like, it was the beginning of a whole bunch of information that was out there.
00:31:53.000And then there would be other people in between who would have a transformative experience in watching the film both directions.
00:31:59.000So I think it's interesting that this film, you know, I hope, shows a very honest picture of how things happen when you're out there trying to uncover stuff, investigating what's going on out there.
00:32:12.000And if people see that objective, honest view into what Into what happens?
00:32:24.000It's up to them to draw their own conclusions.
00:32:25.000That Nerve.com article pisses me off because it's like the guy betrays himself as bias in the first couple sentences of his review.
00:32:35.000If you walk into a review and are like, you know, and use those like derogatory terms that are clearly like, you know, pigeonholing people and like clearly he sat through the whole movie, he went into the movie thinking that way about them And continued to think about them that way, and didn't care to try to look at what he was seeing on screen, didn't care to look at the people who were in front of him and understand why they believe what they believe.
00:33:00.000Well, Andrew, let me make this point here, and that's why I'm making a big deal out of this, because it isn't just this review.
00:33:08.000Twenty reviews or more, and I have them here on the stack, and half of them were, yeah, these guys seem wild, but a lot of it's checking out nowadays, and they link to a few mainstream news articles.
00:33:17.000Hey, here's Time Magazine, here's others admitting they're setting up a bank of the world, just like the conspiracy theorist always said, and they said they would use an economic crisis to do it.
00:33:27.000You guys were there at the Hyatt, we were staying at a few miles away, and Davis, who's one of your partners, he is off at another screening of this right now, so he couldn't be here, and he comes over and he goes, you know these guys are cops.
00:33:42.000You know, my dad's a cop, and he's now a famous private detective, but he didn't want to get into that.
00:33:47.000The point is, is that, you know, he's from Chicago, and I go, well no, I know they're cops.
00:33:53.000We're at the bar, we're at the, Every time we're eating, big guys, 45 years old, 6 foot 5, in suits, act like they're with you and they walk up and say, hey, do you want to attack the State Department with us?
00:34:04.000And I'm like, just start laughing at them, saying, no, we're here, journalists, to cover this.
00:34:07.000Like, oh, because I really want to help you go attack government buildings right now.
00:34:11.000Now, if I would have been drunk or something and said, yeah, just joking, I would have been arrested and been on the news that I was an al-Qaeda guy planning terror.
00:34:17.000This happens every week when you hear about some cell they busted and it comes out later, it was at a bar and somebody just joked.
00:34:23.000So, you guys were there, while feds are on us, you're witnessing this happening.
00:34:28.000Then, as we get kicked out of the other base at Bilderberg, I am walking around videotaping, security comes up and says, don't videotape.
00:34:37.000They follow us into the bar, and they say, you know, we've had people try to steal things by pulling fire alarms.
00:34:42.000Rob Jacobson's with me, you guys are up in the hotel room, I'm about to come, I'm about to do coast-to-coast AM.
00:34:47.000And I say, okay, finish eating my hamburger, and then I go upstairs and the fire alarm goes off, and then I've been outside an hour before shooting video of the hotel, and there were these workmen with these big work trucks going, yeah, we're going to pull it at about 1 a.m., and I didn't know what they were talking about at the time, but after that, they did the fire alarm for whatever reason on purpose,
00:35:11.000They came up to us and asked us about fire alarms, and then it says here, I'm a kook crazy person and there's no cars following me, there's no secret service.
00:35:21.000I mean, let me just read the quote and then I'll shut up about this.
00:35:22.000It says, Paranoid delusions are contagious in New World Order, and Alex Jones is patient zero.
00:35:28.000It says, his face a puffy fright mask of Popeye'd outrage.
00:35:33.000Jones leads his minions to a hotel where the annual Bilderberg conference is taking place.
00:35:37.000He sees his enemies behind every tree and around every corner.
00:35:40.000He's continually evading cars he imagines are pursuing him.
00:35:44.000And at one point announces that a nearby bare-shirted bicyclist is clearly Secret Service.
00:35:50.000When a fire alarm goes off in the hotel, Just as he used to call into our talk show, it's simply more confirmation that they're out to get him.
00:35:58.000And then it goes into how, on this delusional purpose, he says he's living in a movie and his mind is evident from the references to the Matrix, Star Wars, and even Ghostbusters that pepper his ranch.
00:36:09.000I'm shooting footage separately for the Obama film that we were already thinking about making, and a JFK film, separately away from Bilderberg.
00:36:18.000It's on video, it's in, I mean, you know, we have this footage, I don't even know if I put that part in the Obama deception, but I, or, maybe it's in your film, actually, Secret Service coming over.
00:36:27.000The police come over, uh, or maybe I've watched this so much in my studio.
00:36:33.000Well, no, I mean, I, I can't tell where I saw it, I know I was there, because I've seen this footage so much, it's in my film and in your film, similar footage, uh, but, but, uh, I'll put it out on the web.
00:36:45.000The point is, is that, I guess I was just watching the other day in the studio.
00:36:48.000I mean, I think people should like, you know, I mean, whatever that Nerve.com review, you know, okay, so screw him.
00:36:54.000But like he, you know, I think most people who watch the movie, I don't think what he says there is what comes across in those scenes.
00:37:05.000No, but I'm saying, this ties in though to the mass delusion that I'm talking about.
00:37:10.000I'm the same one, but just finishing my babbling point, I was trying to figure out where the footage is, or your footage, my footage, so much of it gets confusing.
00:37:16.000The point is, we're at the Capitol, and then we're at the White House, and everywhere we go, we should put a video out on this, they run up and say, turn your cameras off, they run over and say, you can't film the White House, and then we start walking around, and these Secret Service guys come out of the gated area, they follow us around, All around D.C.
00:37:37.000And, uh, so I guess you guys were with us, because it's in the film.
00:37:39.000Yeah, we were there, and actually, you know, of course, you know, there was actually just a battle in New York City about, um, about a year ago.
00:37:47.000No, but the Secret Service has been caught, and so have the feds, following bike rights grips.
00:37:51.000They've been caught following anti-death penalty grips.
00:37:53.000I mean, my point is, you were there, and that was Secret Service following us, and Secret Service did come out and tell us to turn our cameras off.
00:38:43.000That's what I think is funny, is that so many of these facts that are generally accepted by most everyone, when they come through the lens of a certain demographic, basically become a conspiracy theory.
00:38:55.000And in fact, actually one of the things that was sort of, you know, we were kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place just in terms of how we described the movie.
00:39:03.000You know, like, the term conspiracy theorist in and of itself is a problematic term.
00:39:08.000And like, I think Like, perhaps a new term, people should start using a new term.
00:39:13.000The conspiracy theorist tag immediately kind of devalues... It's meant to put you in a box and say these are crazy people.
00:39:33.000It's a stereotype, and I think that like... It's like calling Galileo a conspiracy theorist because he said that the Earth was not the center of the universe.
00:39:40.000Right, and also, but if you just break down even conspiracy theorists, what that term means, it means that people are theorizing about conspiracies that may be happening.
00:39:50.000Now, humans conspire, and this is something we talked about a lot, we weren't able to get much of it into the film, but like, human beings have been conspiring for centuries.
00:39:57.000It's something... Look at Caesar being killed.
00:40:02.000Yeah, look, we all conspire in our everyday lives.
00:40:04.000We conspire to get our girlfriend to do what we want.
00:40:09.000We conspire in little ways, every way.
00:40:12.000To assume that in government, at least to some extent, there isn't a certain amount of conspiratorial behavior going on is a dangerous state of affairs.
00:40:21.000Here's what the first commenter said on this review.
00:40:23.000It says, I don't think this guy actually saw the film because in it, Jones talks about how many idiots like the guy say it makes the world so fun for them to believe in the New World Order, but in all honesty, they say that the New World Order is trying to do is worse than Hitler and the Nazis.
00:40:37.000So this guy who wrote the blog would tell a Jew that they are just trying to make themselves feel better by saying Hitler tried to kill them.
00:41:09.000No, I didn't see that, but I think that most people that watch this movie aren't going to question those facts.
00:41:15.000And actually, but I think that that discussion that you see going on right there, even on Nerve.com, I think it's good that people are having these arguments.
00:41:22.000I think it's good, you know, if the film, you know, Pushes people to get into this discussion.
00:41:29.000It's a it's a positive thing, you know, and and I think like, you know Alex because you're bombastic or whatever, you know, sometimes maybe people people get fired up about it, but I think it's a good thing if people are coming out and having a discussion about and I and I think because in a way, you know, we we try to present like You know, the softer side of Alex Jones from time to time.
00:41:51.000I think it's good for people to see that too, because to turn you into a human being, to understand where your ideas come from, to understand the history of your journalism is an important thing.
00:42:02.000And to understand what it's like to be behind the scenes.
00:42:04.000Sure, well it was great meeting you guys and I hope I get to meet you and see you again in the future.
00:42:08.000We're going to come back for a few more segments, but I want to say you were truthful about what you said you were going to do.
00:42:12.000That's one of the first times it's ever happened with a national production, so I commend you and thank you.
00:42:17.000But I would like to give the guy at Nerve.com and you guys, here's Time Magazine, titled The New World Order.
00:42:22.000And this came out, it says a new bank of the world will rule the United States and will basically pay our taxes to it.
00:42:26.000It says, a central bank of the world to knock heads when needed and to control the United States.
00:42:31.000So I want to present you with the conspiracy theory about Time Magazine.
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00:46:20.000I appreciate Luke coming in, the filmmakers.
00:46:22.000We're going to keep it until about 15 after, then they've got to take a cab and go down to be at the end of one of their screenings at a panel.
00:46:28.000So there was about another 20 minutes.
00:46:30.000We've been having heated discussions during the break.
00:46:32.000You know, you're saying these type of ridiculous reviews are part of the overall discussion.
00:46:36.000My problem is they're announcing troops on the streets.
00:47:07.000But the only way people are really going to understand what's going on is when they come across something and stop and think about it, read about it themselves.
00:47:16.000The people who read something like this and take it just as the final thing right there, they're not thinking about what he's saying.
00:47:25.000And it's the same for some of the stuff that says that all the stuff is true.
00:47:27.000But can you imagine how, I mean, look, you're experiencing some of the frustration now.
00:47:31.000You know they had feds asking us questions, following us around.
00:47:34.000You know we got followed out of Bilderberg by the car that turned this way, that way, followed us in parking lots, gas stations for 20 minutes, and then it gets out and it's a big fed, and it doesn't exist.
00:48:20.000You know, so, I mean, like, obviously, like, there are groups of humans who believe that a one world government is something that is sort of like an evolution of mankind.
00:48:30.000And they've been motivating rural currencies.
00:48:33.000And I don't even think Not even, what's so funny about it is none of that's going on in secret, it's public policy.
00:48:39.000But it's kooky to be against it and to say that it's bad and that's the point I'm trying to make.
00:48:44.000If you read that Financial Times of London article published by a Bilderberg group member owns it, Mr. Wolf, it says we kept it secret and it's authoritarian.
00:48:54.000So some people say, oh, peace, love, world government, no more war.
00:48:56.000No, it's a worldwide authoritarian corporate state.
00:48:59.000Luke, has this been an awakening for you making this film, or were you aware of the new order before, I mean, you obviously decided to make it, or has it been a growing process for you?
00:49:38.000We're not getting involved in that discussion because we feel as though there's there's a rock and a hard place situation there.
00:49:44.000We say that we believe in one theory or another people are saying oh it's a propaganda movie.
00:49:49.000If we say we don't believe in it then oh it's a hit piece and like so For us, we've gone to so much trouble to be objective with this movie, to offer what we felt was a fair and real view into the lives of the people that we decided to follow.
00:50:03.000And at this point, we don't really want to get into that whole discussion because we feel like it, either way, would compromise the viewing process for people.
00:50:13.000So what we hope is that people come to the movie with an open mind, with a fresh perspective, and just watch and learn You guys are like, as people.
00:50:26.000And if you want to go educate yourself, there's a tremendous amount of information out there on the web.
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00:52:17.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:52:21.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:52:27.000Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer, weather's still about 15 after, then they've got to leave in the middle of a segment to go down and speak at the end of a second screening of their already critically acclaimed new film, New World Order.
00:52:38.000Andrew, you had a question for me during the break.
00:52:40.000Yeah, I was just, you're playing on your show now, you're playing THX, and we heard you talk a lot, and in fact I think you even mentioned the Matrix in your movie, and that guy there in the Nerve article kind of like, you know, took a jab at you for that reason but i actually always thought that your theory about a lot of these a lot of these you know obviously fictional movies was really interesting and how you saw that as kind of like an echo chamber for what people really thought may happen or may be yeah no i mean look number one
00:53:09.000i was you guys were asking me what is the washington monument and And the masons and other people say it is a spiritual talisman.
00:53:18.000I've had top masons on university publications and put out books about sacred geometry and numbers.
00:53:25.000And so I was explaining in the clip, but I think it's shortened for time, that I don't believe Ghostbusters is real.
00:53:33.000The Ghostbusters didn't get the idea of the building and the first Ghostbusters being a spiritual antenna out of the blue sky.
00:53:40.000They got that from studying the occult and Zool the God and the Pyramid God and other dimensions.
00:53:48.000This is what the high-level masons believe.
00:53:51.000And so I was using that as an analogy.
00:53:53.000It's like George Lucas in M.A.T.H.X1138 that we just played a little clip of behind me here.
00:53:57.000He said that was kind of his remake, redo, college film that he then redid with Robert Duvall as his first big film.
00:54:04.000Off, and see, I'm going to burn all our time answering this question, but it's complex, that that was a remake of Brave New World, Aldous Huxley, 1933.
00:54:13.000Well, Huxley gave speeches at Berkeley and said, my brother was involved in eugenics, this is their real plan, to chip everybody and control everybody, and his brother ran the United Nations UNESCO board.
00:54:23.000So see, they're putting what they're really doing out, and then George Lucas, with Revenge of the Sith, I said, this is a political statement about government-sponsored terror and George Bush in 9-11.
00:54:31.000Lucas basically came out and said, yes, this is how they stage events, this is how they're setting up a worldwide dictatorship, and said this is a political message.
00:54:39.000And he said that about the first Star Wars.
00:54:41.000And there was even some cut scenes about, you know, slaving for the greater good of the Empire.
00:54:45.000And the general public not getting involved, staying on the farm, not going out and taking up their destiny to fight tyranny.
00:54:51.000So it's not just me, you know, saying that.
00:54:54.000That's actually what the filmmakers themselves were saying.
00:54:57.000I think it's one of the most, you know, powerful, you know,
00:55:01.000Potential usages of fiction you know that you can discuss you know real things or or potential realities that I think people see coming in the future and I don't know I just I always enjoyed like your references to those movies and and how they were kind of part of part of the main reason the main reason I do it in summation is people have heard of Ghostbusters they've seen Matrix they've got that idea of there's another reality okay and and that and it's so much of what we've been told or taught is disinformation and so I use those as kind of a way
00:55:30.000As a cliche, just like you guys use the term conspiracy theorist, just so you can communicate.
00:55:55.000So like, it was fun from a documentary point of view being around you because you do kind of look at the world in this meta way.
00:56:05.000For some reason, your mind is set up in a way that you do kind of remove yourself from a lot of the generally accepted realities that are around us.
00:56:14.000And you then, for that reason, have a different perspective on the world.
00:56:19.000And it was really interesting to be around that.
00:56:22.000And I think that, you know, whether people, you know, they watch this movie, they agree with everything you say or not, I think the most important thing is that you're a voice out here that is questioning, you know, in that old kind of like corny bumper sticker, question authority, you know, Jack McClane still wears that.
00:56:39.000I mean, I think it's a very important thing in a democracy for voices to be out there asking questions.
00:56:44.000And you don't have to agree with everything that you say, but at least it provokes research.
00:56:50.000It provokes people thinking about what they're being fed.
00:56:53.000And so, you know, what I hope is that at least to some extent that comes through in the film and that and that and that there's that, you know, your voice in society.
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01:00:41.000New World Order, themovie.com, Luke Meyer and Andrew Neil.
01:00:46.000Gentlemen, in the 5, 6, 7 minutes we've got left here, again I just want to thank you for making the film, taking the risk making the film, and again, tell folks when it's going to be premiering on the Independent Film Channel.
01:00:58.000It's going to be on VOD, on IFC VOD in mid to late April, and then it will be premiering in May on the regular channel.
01:01:06.000And they should put a good bit of publicity into it, it should be a good run.
01:01:26.000Like, do you think this is the first time that something like this about the topic has come out in the mainstream media?
01:01:33.000I think this perspective, I mean, usually it's some stuff suit lying, saying they're my friend, when I know that they do, it's a hit piece specialist.
01:01:40.000Like the guy from History Channel did the hit piece and, you know, betrayed Michael Jackson or whatever, and I'm no fan of him, so fine.
01:01:45.000But I said, look, I know it's a hit piece, and it was a hit piece.
01:01:53.000I mean, I really, you know, want to commend you guys.
01:01:55.000But I also... Were you pretty sure that when we were doing it that we were going to do that?
01:01:59.000I remember we had a lot of discussions and I felt bad during the whole thing because I felt like I couldn't convince you that we were, you know, going to try to be fair and to show what we thought was fair.
01:02:12.000Well, I thought that you guys would rationalize yourselves and kind of put us in a bad light.
01:02:19.000And let's say you did it one degree, I thought it would be 10 or 15 degrees of that, a lot more of that.
01:02:25.000It was a little bit of what I suspected, but in a way that's who we are.
01:03:05.000Well, I hope a lot of people get a chance to see this film because I do think that it opens up a discussion about what is generally a pretty closed topic.
01:03:15.000Just the way the thing was in the Nerve.com article where, you know, people walk into something with an opinion and they just stick to it.
01:03:24.000I think this film allows people to kind of see things on a deeper level, to see the quote-unquote conspiracy, you know, subculture, I don't know what you want to call it.
01:03:35.000People that question the official fiction.
01:03:38.000Yeah, I mean, so often it feels to me like the world breaks down into two camps.
01:03:43.000There's people that are screaming on one side about, you know, this is what's happening, this is how it's going to be.
01:03:48.000There's people on the other side screaming, they're kooks, they're wackos.
01:03:52.000What I hope is, at least to some extent, this film will bridge that gap a little bit.
01:03:56.000People from both sides, either be it, you know, people who are, you know, in the conspiracy, into the conspiracy genre, Um, or maybe you could call it just alternative political views will watch this.
01:04:09.000And then people from the other side, you know, either be it, you know, uh, kind of mainline Democrats, Republicans and, and, and all of, and, and all of those peoples with their ideologies will watch it.
01:04:19.000And hopefully it will bridge that gap a little bit, you know, and, and, and, and, and, you know, I, you know, I, I, I, I know you, um, You know, you comment on the goofiness a little bit.
01:04:30.000In a way, I hope that, too, makes it a bit more accessible to some people who may generally just not watch it all in a way.
01:04:37.000Like, humor sometimes can draw people in.
01:04:40.000It can get people connected to human beings.
01:04:41.000No, I mean, Tommy Pilato, who I respect, said that he thought it was positive and humanizes.
01:04:50.000Two camps on the conspiracy side, as people would call it, and two camps on the establishment side.
01:04:55.000On the bad guy side, you have the status quo people, that when it came out that hospitals in Austin were stealing people's corneas after they died, and organs, they said it was a conspiracy theory to the nurses, and then it came out and folks got convicted.
01:05:08.000Or when you say a vaccine's killing people, they call it a conspiracy theory, oh, you know, so it's kind of a denial.
01:05:13.000I mean, they said that the mafia didn't exist.
01:05:15.000J. Edgar Hoover, he was being blackmailed, said it's a conspiracy theory and lacosanosure doesn't exist.
01:05:20.000And then you look like a fool afterwards.
01:05:22.000So you have those that are just covering up, then you have those who are just kind of mainstream, want to think everything is okay, want to think the world is working fine.
01:05:33.000Then on our side, the conspiracy side, you've got real researchers, people who understand human history, that are putting out real information, may not present it perfectly, you know, whatever.
01:05:41.000You've got folks that really care and are telling the truth, and are doing something very historical and important, and are the real revolutionaries.
01:05:46.000Then you've got kooks that talk only about flying saucers, chupacabras, things that are shocking.
01:06:16.000Yeah, you were nice not to put that in.
01:06:17.000Well, no, I mean, I think... You put one brain chip comment in.
01:06:20.000Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I think there are a lot of people in the world that are worried about chipping and, like, we heard a lot of talk about it amongst many people we spoke to, but, like, by and large, I think we avoided that stuff and tried to stay with the socio-political... No, I know, you could have made us look a lot crazier because there's a bunch of crazies.
01:06:38.000But, I mean, you're going to have crazies that question reality.
01:06:41.000And, see, the media can always point at them.
01:06:42.000Well yeah, and I think often people that, you know, if you tend to have the intelligence or the inclination to look outside the mainline view, you know, there can be collateral damage there, which means that you may come to the wrong conclusion when you leave the mainline reality.
01:07:00.000But what's important to me is that, you know, people do try to leave that mainline reality, do try to question what they're fed.
01:09:33.000Alright, good having those filmmakers here.
01:09:36.000By the way, Burmese just ran in here and told me that basically Opie and Andy, which is a huge radio show, Bubba the Love Sponge, Howard Stern, all these kind of pop sensation radio shows are talking about the Obama deception.
01:09:55.000And there are, no exaggeration, I spent about an hour last night trying to track a bunch of them just on YouTube.
01:10:00.000There are over a hundred versions of the Obama Deception free on YouTube, and almost every one of them looks like unmitigated trash.
01:10:09.000Because everybody raced Wednesday night when I released it early to grab it as fast as they could in the lowest quality, so they grabbed the lowest quality one.
01:10:17.000Then they uploaded it in the lowest quality to race to get it up, and those are the ones with I mean, one version has like a million views between the twelve parts.
01:10:25.000A million views, and it looks like absolute hammered crud.
01:10:29.000But, the version that changed the channel, that's the name of, uh, he's got a director's account, and he always uploads our films, and so we're linking to him.
01:10:39.000It's up at about a hundred thousand right now, just since we linked to it yesterday from ten thousand, and it looks like it's about to be the top link, and it's the whole film in one place.
01:10:50.000I've never had a film go this viral this fast.
01:10:52.000I mean, I feel like I'm riding a rocket here.
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01:10:59.000This film is hitting big time and waking a lot of Obama supporters up and waking a lot of conservatives up because they watch the Obama deception and they find out That it's not a left-right thing.
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01:16:58.000But have your question and comment ready, because I'm going to make each caller keep it to a minute, myself to a minute answer, so we have time to get to a lot of people before a guest on the deadly nature of vaccines and all the developments there joins us coming up the last hour and a half of the show.
01:17:17.000I was just talking to Jaron Neihardt, who's one of the directors for the PrisonPlanet.tv show, when I'm live during the day and when Burmese is live for all three hours, nine to midnight, at InfoWars.com and the GCN Radio Network.
01:17:32.000And he said this is perfect for his family, who are Obama supporters, because they knew Bush was a tyrant.
01:17:37.000Because the film starts with showing all the horrible things Bush did, showing him making jokes about no WMDs here, no weapons there, and we cut to images of dead Iraqi children and men and women.
01:17:50.000And then we explain that the very same groups that run Bush now run Obama.
01:17:56.000And then we cover what his real agenda is and the globalist public master plan to bankrupt the planet and bring in a world government where everybody has an ID card that's globally set but administered by their nation.
01:18:10.000Where all your buying and selling is tracked by that in the name of a fair tax, which they're going to track all your purchases with, in the name of stopping the income tax.
01:18:42.000And I'm telling you, no rest for us here.
01:18:46.000I'm going to put it out at PrisonPlanet.TV.
01:18:50.000We're going to make it in the next three weeks.
01:18:52.000But by the end of next month, or within about 25 days from now, we're going to launch, I think I'm going to call it, the Obama Deception Update.
01:19:05.000And it's probably going to be about an hour and a half long where we go into more detail about Zbigniew Brzezinski and about the Israeli connection and the Israeli lobbyist and who Rahm Emanuel is and all of that and the encircling of Russia and the Bali bombings and mass shootings.
01:19:27.000I'm also going to sit down and do some shoots here next week with all the latest stuff that Obama's doing.
01:19:33.000And also, we didn't get a lot into how everybody's basically a mafiadon, or corrupt, or how many people he couldn't appoint because they were getting payoffs or weren't paying their taxes.
01:19:42.000We're going to spend some time on that, as well, and how one of Obama's people just got raided by the FBI, one of the people in his administration.
01:19:49.000I mean, it is getting crazy, and so we're going to put that out at PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:19:55.000TV, I mean, we've got hours and hours of Tarpley, riveting informative stuff, you know, hours of Jesse Ventura, hours and hours of George Humphrey, more of KRS-One, more of Professor Greff, more of Gerald Solente, and then more of myself, and I'm going to shoot some new stuff, because some of this stuff was shot a month and a half ago.
01:20:14.000I mean, that's how quick this film, people are seeing this film, and it's like they say they're watching the news.
01:20:20.000A lot of people are also trying to nitpick it on YouTube and on the pages on InfoWars and Prison Planet saying, Oh, Alex says 5,000 troops have died in the war.
01:20:33.000Number one, that 4,000 number is in Iraq.
01:20:37.000They're not even counting the thousands of dead contractors and they don't count it.
01:20:44.000If you die once you get out to Rammstein in Germany or once you get to England or once you get back to the US, they don't count that as a combat casualty.
01:20:51.000I know about a year ago it was in the newspapers that really more than 15,000 troops have died from injuries from the war.
01:21:01.000I had to make a decision making the film.
01:21:02.000I said, well I know it's way more than 5,000.
01:21:04.000And I know that more are dying every day.
01:21:09.000And I know the official number is, the latest numbers are almost 5,000.
01:21:12.000I said, I'll just say more than 5,000.
01:21:15.000Because I'm lying to say less than 5,000.
01:21:18.000And I know it's more like, if it was a year ago, 15,000.
01:21:41.000We're showing they were all in it together.
01:21:42.000So there's lots of nitpicking watching the intro of the film instead of watching the film itself that proves everything that's in the intro.
01:21:49.000The intro is just a shadow of what comes in the film.
01:21:52.000So if you're going to criticize it, watch the whole thing.
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01:23:26.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:23:29.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
01:24:06.000Our government has handed over billions with no strings attached and no accountability to the very bankers who created this whole mess we're in.
01:24:14.000Millions have lost their jobs to corporate corruption and mismanagement.
01:24:19.000Trillions in savings, net worth, and retirement accounts have been lost by investors and homeowners.
01:24:25.000When you really look at all the theft, crimes, secret organizations, and pervasive corruption going on, It's enough to make you think of your second favorite F word, food.
01:25:36.000This explosion after explosion as it gets bigger and bigger.
01:25:40.000Get it as it was meant to be seen, the DVD at InfoWars.com.
01:25:47.000Okay, I want to go to your phone calls, and then I'm going to get more into Netanyahu envisions major war in coming months.
01:25:56.000The global warming, fear mongers that want a global tax, say scientists say warming could put population to 1 billion, could kill 5 plus billion people.
01:26:29.000I'd like to start by throwing a brick to the city of Montreal, which was rather disgusting this weekend.
01:26:34.000The media started by demonizing an anti-police demonstration by warning people that it was going to be violent ahead of time.
01:26:42.000So when we had 10,000 people show up for an anti-Palestine invasion thing, that was good.
01:26:48.000But we only had about 200 show up for the police demonstration in a town where this is probably a worse disease than any other disease possible.
01:26:56.000And they beat the heck out of the 200 people and criminalized all of them, calling them nuts.
01:27:00.000Well, if I wanted to demonize the police, I could.
01:27:03.000Every day there's piles of it where there's a new case where the college kid, they just come to his window at night, shine a light in his face, he put his hand over his eyes, and so they shot him in the chest and he's fighting for his life.
01:27:15.000And, you know, it's their phony drug war.
01:27:17.000You know, the real narcotics are shipped in by the government, and they wage this war against the potheads.
01:27:21.000And it's just disgusting that this type of stuff is going on, and it's only going to get worse.
01:27:27.000But remember, police, the bankers you work for are completely destroying the country right now and your future as well.
01:27:33.000Yeah, I'd like to speak to that, to all those people that are laughing at us, doubting us, trying to bring us in with white supremacists and any other thing they can use to justify feeling good about themselves.
01:27:46.000You people might want to get it straight.
01:27:48.000When they're finished coming after all of us, whether we're good or bad, you're next.
01:28:57.000He'd been caught, what was it, 12 times by police, but let go under different names.
01:29:00.000I mean, if you want to know what's actually killing cops, you should get an intelligence report about the foreigners.
01:29:05.000And it's not just Mexicans, it's Chinese, it's Russians, it's Eastern Europeans, it's Filipinos, it's, you know, Europeans, it's Arabs.
01:29:15.000Because this is total lawlessness, statistically.
01:29:20.000And I saw a report the other day in the paper, finally, about how they've quit doing TB testing on school teachers and on doctors and nurses and others.
01:29:28.000And TB is just, the drug-resistant type is spreading all over the country.
01:29:32.000I mean, tens of thousands of deaths a year.
01:30:19.000These are the real threats, but meanwhile, oh no, there's these people that talk about the Constitution, and they're secretly Al Qaeda, and they want to kill cops.
01:30:29.000I mean, they're shooting people every day at stops, at checkpoints, and pullovers, and at people's front doors looking for pot, and you shine a light in their eyes, they go like that.
01:30:37.000Oh, shouldn't have lifted your hand, that was threatening.
01:30:39.000Yeah, I mean, it's getting bad, folks.
01:30:42.000Let's go ahead and talk to Mike and Mass.
01:30:50.000Part of my job is to check in with local state police authorities when I follow a subject into their area.
01:30:57.000And I just gotta say that I'm blown away at the Nazis these police have become.
01:31:03.000I got pulled over last week three different times and I was told very bluntly that I was burying myself for exercising my constitutional rights.
01:31:18.000I had the chief of police tell me in a small town in Massachusetts the other day that that's not the law and it's not a bylaw that you check in, but it is here.
01:31:31.000Well, you know, more than that, the sheriff is the only person that can tell you to do that, and if you're not violating the Constitution, bounty hunters, private investigators, that is explicitly guarded in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, and has been a profession that has been very important But they can't stand citizens having that authority.
01:31:53.000That's why they can't stand citizens owning guns.
01:31:55.000And I see articles every week in Massachusetts especially, but also in Connecticut and places where legal people are going to the shooting range now and cops will take them to jail for having firearms going to the shooting range.
01:32:08.000So they're really coming after the Second Amendment right now.
01:32:11.000At our gun club last week, it's funny that you brought that up, a trooper pulled into the parking lot And one of our board of directors walked over and asked him if he was a member and if he wasn't a member to kindly please leave.
01:32:24.000You know, it's just one of these things.
01:32:43.000They are teaching the police that red, white, and blue is evil.
01:32:46.000I'm licensed in 15 states as a private detective, and I'm licensed in 32 states to carry a concealed firearm.
01:32:53.000Some of the states are G-licensed, which I can carry in complete full view.
01:32:56.000And, I mean, you would think that I know a little bit about the law, but when these guys pull me over, I'm, oh, and by the way, Alex, I do have a pocket constitution.
01:33:05.000Um, so that got me in a little bit of trouble last night.
01:33:09.000Did they burst into flame when they saw it, like a vampire that sees a cross?
01:33:12.000I mean, what happened when they saw it?
01:33:13.000They pulled me out of my car, they pulled me out of the car, they brought me to the back, three other cops came, a lieutenant came, they had me at gunpoint, they went to go search my vehicle, I told them they had no PC to search my vehicle because I have confidential client files in there and you're not allowed to go in there.
01:33:26.000Uh, every time I kept correcting them on their procedure it got worse for me.
01:33:30.000And basically, I've got to go to court next week, and they threatened to pull one of my licenses, and good luck on renewing my gun permit for the state.
01:33:40.000Yeah, because it turns a right into a privilege.
01:33:42.000That's why they get licensing, then they say a license is an authorization to do something that would be illegal otherwise.
01:33:50.000Now, what happened when they found the evil constitution that they'd sworn oath to?
01:33:54.000That's when the lieutenant said, you know, you're burying yourself because of this.
01:33:58.000And I said, well, what do you mean, sir?
01:33:59.000And he said, well, by exercising your, you know, your right and by carrying this, uh, this is not good for your case.
01:34:05.000And I said, well, I said, well, why don't we just let my, my attorney discuss that, uh, with the town manager and whatnot.
01:34:12.000And, you know, basically they took me in on that and, oh, this is the best part too.
01:34:16.000He said that I couldn't work in their town anymore that day.
01:35:03.000I have my laptop computer right here with the town's website up to call him when this guy was giving me this brief.
01:35:09.000So anyway, I called right after he left, but sure enough, he called because he used to work on that police department, and he indicated to them that I was acting weird and looking at little kids.
01:35:20.000So even though I had logged in with the police department five minutes before, they decided to send the cavalry out to arrest me.
01:35:36.000All adults, if you're walking your dog in a park where children are, they go ahead and put you in a child molester file.
01:35:42.000Meanwhile, the government's running most of the real child molestation.
01:35:45.000So specifically, they said things are going to go bad for you now with this evil pocket constitution.
01:35:49.000Did you say to him, but didn't you swear an oath to that officer?
01:35:52.000I mean, isn't this what America's all about?
01:35:54.000I guess they've been given all the federal training that, no, it's evil.
01:35:58.000Well, you know, I kind of choose my battles, and when I think that I can reason, you know, just while I was waiting to talk to you, an individual here in New Hampshire where I'm working today, a cop pulled up, and just nice as can be, you know, here I am waiting on old to trash the police, and it's not all of them, it really isn't.
01:36:16.000No, but they're not punishing the thugs, and the thugs are in command more and more, and so this is coming from the top down.
01:37:54.000Yeah, I'm sure all the listeners have been hearing this feigned furor from Congress about these contractually obligated bonuses that AIG has been paying out.
01:38:06.000I came across a story on foxbusiness.com and it turns out that Senator Chris Dodd Good, good.
01:38:15.000an amendment into the stimulus bill specifically providing an exception for contractually obligated bonuses.
01:38:31.000Well, let me just, for those that haven't seen it and don't know, we have the news clips, we have the bill, we have the executive order.
01:38:40.000When Obama says, a month ago, and it's in the film, when he said that he was going to stop bonuses to bailout companies, companies that take bailout money, the executive order says, from this time forward with any further bailouts, and that then, that has the loopholes you mentioned, they mirrored that in Congress, And that no one can review it or look at it.
01:40:01.000Rick Perry took the federal money that was really taxpayer money, and then Rick Perry did a stunt.
01:40:07.000And so Obama, you watch, is going to make them, they're making a big deal out of this and getting a big furor right now, so Obama can take that money back.
01:40:14.000Now, they've already given him bonuses just three months ago.
01:40:48.000They're going about bankrupting the country and in the process making people so desperate that they're going to get to the point where they're willing to throw away our Constitution for the public and replace it with socialism.
01:40:59.000But to put the final kicker to show that these criminals in our government are colluding with the criminals on Wall Street Speaking of AIG, it turns out that the two largest recipients of campaign donations from AIG were Chris Dodd and Barack Obama.
01:41:16.000Barack Obama, on average, got four times the money John McCain did from Wall Street.
01:41:28.000The bankers come in and machine gun A thousand kids.
01:41:32.000But then they save one and give him a cup of orange juice and say, we love you, and the media goes, oh look, they're helping the children, while there's 999 bloody dead ones.
01:41:46.000And it's like I said, this thing is such a scam.
01:41:51.000They're up there stealing money from us and giving it to their fellow criminals, and then Coming out and feigning this shock and outrage at how their fellow criminals... Look, look, look, look!
01:42:03.000George Bush was guilty of letting the banker bailout happen and the people involved with him, Paulson and others, were from Goldman Sachs and deeply involved.
01:42:17.000They're the very ones in power shaking their finger at themselves saying, we're going to set up a bank of the world with unlimited power in the name of saving us.
01:42:27.000So they destroy the economy and then take everything over in the name of saving us.
01:42:33.000It's like I keep trying to wake people up and I'm trying to tell them that, look, this is not about left and right, Democrat and Republican.
01:42:40.000This is about the government versus the people.
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01:44:25.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
01:44:27.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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01:46:32.000It's a blind spot I've got because to me, I mean, I've done this forever.
01:46:37.000And you can show it to the public and say, look, this is world government, you know, world bank, world currency, world army, world courts, and they just say, shut up, doesn't exist!
01:46:45.000State police are told, Constitution's bad, America's bad, freedom's bad, New World Order doesn't exist.
01:47:01.000I haven't given her the official DVD yet, thank you.
01:47:04.000Yeah, here it is, IMF imposing to print billions of dollars in global quantitative easing.
01:47:12.000The International Monetary Fund is poised to embark on its own what analysts have depicted as global quantitative easing by printing billions of dollars worth of global super currency in an unprecedented effort to address the economic crisis.
01:47:24.000And I want to talk about this before we go back to calls, because this is huge news.
01:47:29.000You see, they had Bretton Woods 2 meeting three months ago.
01:47:32.000By the way, that's in the Obama deception.
01:47:37.000And they said, we're not telling you what happened.
01:47:40.000And the media keeps asking Geithner and the Exchequer in England and all the heads of this, all the Treasury Secretaries around the world, what's the plan?
01:47:47.000And they say, we're not going to tell you.
01:48:35.000So of course the criminals hijacking are lying to their Praetorian Guard, lying to the enforcers, and saying, you're with us, the government!
01:48:41.000You know, the people are what's bad if they say any of this exists, and I'm reading the London Telegraph here.
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01:53:45.000Okay, uh, I was going over my copy of, uh, Morals and Dogma, and I got into this section about, uh, the 28th Degree Freemason, uh, where they reach the Knight of the Sun or Prince of Depth, and something really intrigued me about the number 9.
01:53:58.000You know, it's, uh, a number that is really regarded by them, and they indicate that it's, uh, the ancients regarded it as a number with a sort of terror.
01:54:07.000They considered it bad presage, as a symbol of versatility, of change, and the emblem of frailty in human affairs.
01:54:14.000Well, we have a number 9 that's coming up, a date with a number 9 that's of extreme significance, where I feel that it's a possibility they might just put in a false flag event.
01:54:27.000Well, remember what happened, it was...
01:54:32.000You know, 3-3-3 on the Madrid bombing, and then 7-7 on the bombings in England of the trains and the bus, and then 9-11 and all the... And they are!
01:54:42.000I mean, it's not us that believe in this.
01:54:44.000It's the globalists believe in numerology, they believe in all this esoteric architecture.
01:54:53.000But a lot of folks then obsess over every date.
01:54:55.000They only attack at certain dates, and that tends to be when they think the stars are aligned as well.
01:55:00.000Yeah, because I was reading up on the 9 and it says, when multiplied by itself or any other number, it gives a result whose final sum is always 9, or always divisible by 9.
01:55:09.000When you add up 9, 9, 9, which is the date that's coming up, it equals 27.
01:56:03.000And just as a sociologist, or as an anthropologist, or as a behavioral psychologist, if you're as a layman studying that, and studying the elites themselves, you need to study the enemy.
01:56:11.000And they certainly believe in all of this and are very, very obsessed with it.
01:56:14.000So I think that is a very valid point that you have brought up there, Brian.
01:56:19.000Also, you had mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I know you try to keep this short, you mentioned a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago, you were going to be covering the tax movement of some sort for sovereigns or something.
01:56:48.000But when we come back, I'm going to continue with a few more calls and I'm going to get into this big global government announcement that's happened.
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02:00:03.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
02:00:12.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:17.000I am just going to cover this for about 5-6 minutes with Jason Burmas, then we're going to go back to your calls, but it's very, very important.
02:00:25.000This is the big national paper of Dubai, and at a banking conference, November 6, 2008, the article is The First Barons of Banking.
02:00:34.000We'll put that up on screen for folks.
02:00:36.000And in it, Nobleman Baron David de Rothschild, his son's been on the show, only for global government basically, the head of the Rothschild Bank, and in here it says he calls for a one world government regulated by the banks, a new world order.
02:00:52.000It's all in that article on your screen.
02:01:00.000November 10, 2008, carbon trading must be globally regulated.
02:01:03.000People ask, well how do you know, you know, they're calling for a new World Bank, how do you know that they're calling to, that you'll pay your carbon taxes to them?
02:01:10.000Because I've seen probably 50 plus articles, no exaggeration, that say the same thing.
02:02:30.000And folks, I'm telling you, I have read conservatively 20, 30 a day where I'm like, don't even cover them anymore.
02:02:37.000I'm so conditioned that it's no big deal.
02:02:38.000And it's like saying, hey, guys, the sun's coming up.
02:02:40.000I'm not going to read articles on air about the sun coming up this morning.
02:02:43.000While I'm being attacked in newspapers saying I'm insane, none of it exists.
02:02:47.000So the newspapers, schizophrenically, are simultaneously And federal training documents for police are saying pocket constitutions are signs that we want to kill cops.
02:03:17.000And it says, a global bank of the world that we'll pay our taxes to, that will control every nation, including the U.S.
02:03:22.000Financial Times of London, and now for a world government, published by the Bilderberg Group.
02:03:25.000And I keep going back to this article because they say, we kept it secret for your own good, it is authoritarian, that means non-freedom, tyrannical, and we are setting up a world government for the bankers to save you from global warming and the banking collapse and terrorism.
02:03:40.000Everything they engineer, everything they foster, everything they create.
02:03:43.000And then, meanwhile, Burmess, let me have that article you've got, please.
02:04:22.000And we prove he wasn't at the secret meetings they claimed he was at Bilderberg last year.
02:04:26.000That's why the film, 15 minutes in, we spend 10 minutes on Bilderberg.
02:04:30.000Because we're showing he's controlled by the same people that Bush is controlled by.
02:04:34.000But Burmese, this is amazing that they really are coming right out in the open now, but they preconditioned the public for decades it didn't exist.
02:04:41.000So even when it's being admitted, polite folk won't talk about it because that's crazy talk.
02:04:47.000Yeah, I mean, you like to focus on that Time Magazine New World Order article?
02:04:51.000They actually have another one called Obama's New World Order you can pull up.
02:04:54.000I mean, that's the second New World Order article they did in about six months.
02:04:58.000There's been about 30 or 40 I've seen.
02:05:00.000Yeah, and for the Obama deception to be as huge as that political article was huge, Opie and Anthony did an hour on the Obama deception yesterday.
02:05:28.000I mean, this is an incredible responsibility, Jason.
02:05:30.000Yeah, absolutely, and I just want to thank everybody out there for making the Obama deception go viral before the DVDs even hit the streets.
02:05:38.000AOL covered it yesterday, and they did a poll, and thousands of people did the poll, and 70% said they didn't even know what Bilderberg was before they read the article.
02:05:47.000And then another 70% said, well, is there a problem with this?
02:05:50.000And 70% said, yeah, there's a problem with this.
02:06:24.000And every time I've had this tingly feeling in other areas of our fight here, I mean, it's crazy, Burmese, to have kind of the eye of Sauron looking right at us.
02:06:34.000It is a little nuts, but you kind of get past it.
02:06:36.000I mean, it's always a good feeling to make a difference and infiltrate into the mainstream media.
02:06:41.000You did that with Dylan and Corey with Lou Strange.
02:06:44.000Yeah, I mean, it's a little scary at first, but again, Alex, to be at the tip of the spear, the first person to come out with a truly critical piece on the Obama administration, not this false, you know, left or right attacks, not playing, you know, Rush Limbaugh.
02:07:00.000Exactly, and it's funny because the comedian that brought this to Opie and Anthony, he's a big fat African American guy, you know?
02:07:07.000I mean, you're really, I think it was a great play to put Professor Griff and KRS-One on the film, and I think it's reaching all audiences.
02:08:37.000Or it's stuff that can't be proven or is from a right-wing perspective.
02:08:40.000Yeah, we go over to the local shop to get that kombucha drink we get all the time, and in the background there's a big poster of Gandhi, and right next to that big poster of Gandhi is a big poster of Obama.
02:08:51.000I mean, Gandhi led a true revolution against tyranny.
02:09:43.000Well they tried to get me once also at the Tribeca premiere of that United 93 and I had to sit there with this cop for like 45 minutes and he was actually aware of the 93 bombings and Ahmad Salaam and I think it was Peter Lance's book Triple Cross so he was kinda on the fence on whether I should be there or not and he was like well you gotta go to this free speech and I'm like there's a it's a little cage you're gonna make me stand there I'm not even I don't even have a sign you know I'm handing people DVDs and whatnot And basically I just reached out to him.
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02:19:26.000I've searched the internet and everything else and nobody's ever said anything about Atomic bombs, nuclear bombs, hydrogen bombs, or anything else having to do with anything with global warming.
02:19:40.000Well, I don't think they had a lot to do with global warming, but there are a lot of government studies, their own studies, that show that it blew holes in the ozone layer when they would test them at high altitudes.
02:19:49.000Up until the 70s, the French, the US, the Chinese, the Russians did that.
02:19:53.000They had one test where 60-something high-powered hydrogen bombs in the 60s, it's in that film Trinity for Discovery Channel that was narrated by William Shatner, where it just shows them detonating nukes.
02:20:03.000I'm just saying, it could be a time-release thing.
02:20:04.000blowing holes in the atmosphere and scientists thought it might have ignited the atmosphere on fire but they said we're going to do the test anyways but absolutely they won't let us have nuclear power which is very safe compared to this but they'll set nukes off.
02:20:40.000So you don't think any atomic bombs, neutron bombs, hydrogen bombs have anything to do with global warming at all?
02:20:49.000Hundreds of volcanoes going off at any one time, just constantly, forest fires, the oceans, I mean, just the levels of regular carbon and the carbon cycle, just from the studies I've seen on nukes being tested, it is negligible.
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02:26:17.000Well, Barbara Lowe Fisher is co-founder of the non-profit National Vaccine Information Center, founded in 1982 by parents of vaccine-injured children and dedicated to preventing vaccine injuries and deaths through public education and defending the informed consent ethic.
02:26:30.000As president of the largest and oldest consumer-led vaccine safety advocacy organization, she has led a national grassroots movement to Institute Vaccine Safety Reforms and Informed Consent Protection in the Public Health System for more than a quarter century.
02:26:43.000She is the editor of the weekly NVICE News and a blogger and many of her articles and vaccines and vaccine policies appear in the NVICE website, a lot of newspapers, publisher stuff.
02:27:15.000So now they're really trying to make a mandatory, trying to create this illusion that they're mandatory, trying to prop that up as the deaths amount from different vaccines like HPV and others, the cancer viruses in many of the vaccines, the sterilization compounds they found in tetanus shots.
02:28:18.000about how the military pays businesses to drug test all their employees.
02:28:22.000So they're setting all these precedents of total Big Brother control and they have all these excuses.
02:28:26.000So I wanted to have her on just to basically break down the current state of the fight and what's happening there and to then take your phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.
02:28:34.000Barbara Lowe Fisher, good to have you back with us.
02:28:40.000Okay, I am going to try to give you the floor, just break down the basic history of vaccines, how you got involved, what we're currently facing, and what the establishment's trying to do right now.
02:28:52.000Yeah, you know, and then I'd like to talk a little bit, because I just actually watched your film this morning, Endgame, and I was so blown away that I'm still processing it.
02:29:06.000I went back into my archives and looked at some of the information I produced in the 1990s, because I've been doing this work since 1982.
02:29:15.000In the 1990s, I was very much focused on the evolution of the vaccine tracking systems, the electronic medical records tracking systems, and I went and reviewed that information and some of the things that occurred back then became much clearer to me.
02:29:34.000Within the context of some of the information you gave out in your film, which was quite well researched and it was very interesting.
02:29:42.000And I think people don't really understand what the mass vaccination system has been used for in the last few decades to promote this idea of that the greater good, which is defined by those who have a vested interest in being able to control Who gets these vaccines?
02:30:12.000The idea of mass vaccination has been used to lull people into accepting a loss of medical privacy, a loss of their right to make choices about the kind of health care that they want, including the vaccines that they want to use or do not want to use.
02:30:34.000And it's really, I think people need to understand that often the idea of vaccination is used as a political tool by those actually in both parties who really want to exert more control over what they know about you and your family in terms of the medical choices that you make, in terms of your DNA.
02:30:59.000Right now there is an attempt in Minnesota For the state to basically own your baby's DNA, you no longer have the right to give consent.
02:31:13.000For 44 years, according to the Austin American Statesman, I thought it was 36, everyone at birth has their blood taken.
02:31:18.000It was put in a secret DNA database as they now admit it.
02:31:21.000Bush signed an executive order to counter the moves in Texas and Minnesota and other places to sue and counter that.
02:31:26.000So the state is being forced to declare, no we own your blood.
02:31:29.000There was even a court case in California five years ago.
02:31:32.000Where somebody was getting some genetic treatments, and they came back and said, well, a company actually owns that protein that's in your blood, so you've got to pay them a licensing fee for your own DNA treatment.
02:31:45.000So, I've actually had congressmen on, and I've had lawmakers from Australia on.
02:31:50.000This is worldwide in the Western world, where for at least 30 plus years they've been taking people's blood secretly.
02:31:56.000Well, and the thing that bothered me when I looked at your film is many, many memories were reactivated.
02:32:06.000And I remembered back in the NVIC, my organization opposed the 1996 HIPAA law that was under the guise of medical privacy.
02:32:19.000But what it really did was it was an information grab by government.
02:32:24.000To be able to look at your medical records.
02:32:29.000You know, when you can now go into and use them also for scientific research.
02:32:35.000When you go into the hospital, they're uploading it all to the health department, then it goes from there to the feds, and Obama with the nine billion dollar package, as you know, I'm just telling folks, just put more funding into that.
02:32:44.000They're going to use that for gun control for those that ever went to a psychologist, but go ahead.
02:32:49.000And the reason that I think it's important for people to understand the role that vaccination and vaccine policies, vaccine tracking systems, have had in this sort of evolution of the idea that government ought to be able to track you and your personal information, and a lot of it was justified by the idea that we all should get vaccinated.
02:33:17.000And that it was a good thing for everyone to get vaccinated.
02:33:21.000Therefore, for example, in 1995, it was okay for the Secretary of Health, Donna Shalala at the time, to come in and take the Social Security number and use it for the first time for a non-Social Security purpose.
02:33:37.000And that was to use it as a health identifier for babies at birth to monitor vaccination status.
02:33:46.000So they're using the vaccine monitoring system as the skeletal system for a total takeover of health care, then the bioethicist boards to then bring eugenics back into state controlled health care.
02:33:58.000Well, you know, I mean, as you know, I've been on your show before and I've always said that I was not a conspiracy theorist.
02:34:04.000But I do think that we have to, that connecting the dots is important.
02:34:10.000And I do understand, I do know something about the vaccination system.
02:34:15.000I know something about vaccines and their risks.
02:34:18.000And I know that bottom line, we have to have the right to freedom.
02:34:24.000That's where I absolutely agree with what you're trying to do, which is foster freedom of the press, freedom of expression.
02:34:35.000When I watched your film and I realized why, last time I was on I talked about what I experienced in Maryland.
02:34:43.000In November of 2007 when they lined up the children and their parents and said you know if they didn't get a hepatitis B vaccination and a chickenpox vaccination or could show proof that they had that the parents would be charged And could be jailed for failing to show that proof.
02:35:06.000Anyway, I saw you and you were at the Bilderberg meetings and there were the policemen with the dogs.
02:35:14.000And I realized why that resonated with you because you had been in that kind of a situation as well.
02:35:20.000And, you know, I really believe that we are at a critical time right now.
02:35:26.000And unless we as Americans stand up and get involved at the local and state and federal level in terms of electing the right people to represent us, we are going to have a very difficult situation in this country where we are really having, incrementally, we're having our personal freedoms taken from us.
02:35:45.000And certainly, one of the greatest freedoms we have is the right to be able to choose what is done to our physical body.
02:35:54.000What we have to take into our bodies, whether it's pharmaceutical drugs, vaccines, or anything else, if we're not free, if we don't have the right to bodily integrity, to individual inviolability, we really cannot be deemed to be free in any sense of the word.
02:36:11.000And so I look back and I see this evolution of these tracking systems, which were justified in the 1980s and 90s.
02:36:19.000Because vaccination was a good thing and the government needed to track who was going to be, who was vaccinated, who was not vaccinated for the purpose of being able to call them up and remind them that it was time to get vaccinated.
02:36:31.000And then I see in the last few years leading physicians and organizations saying they should criminalize non-vaccinators, that there should be a posting in communities.
02:36:43.000Yeah, they're proposing this and then lying and saying it's already the law and threatening people, which is an incredible crime.
02:37:41.000And I think that, you know, the bottom line is the right to inform consent is a human right.
02:37:47.000And it was defined by the judges at the doctor's trial at Nuremberg as a human right.
02:37:52.000And what was on trial at Nuremberg, those doctors who they did charge with crimes against humanity, and I realize some of them didn't even get to that docket, but those who they did charge, the defense by those doctors was the utilitarian rationale.
02:38:07.000And that is that their scientific experiments were for the greater good.
02:38:10.000If they torture a child to death, it might save a thousand children down the road.
02:38:15.000And so I think that that principle that was outlined by the judges, they really tried the utilitarian rationale as well.
02:38:23.000And they basically said that the utilitarianism, which is that some can be sacrificed or the well-being of some and the happiness of a minority of individuals can be sacrificed for the greater good, that whole idea was debunked by those judges.
02:38:37.000And they said that you can't use utilitarianism to buttress any kind of state policy.
02:38:45.000And, you know, Oliver Wendell Holmes was a Supreme Court Justice who used Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 1905, which allowed the states to mandate vaccination.
02:38:57.000Oliver Wendell Holmes used that in 1927 to justify the forced sterilization of what he thought was a mentally retarded girl, which was actually a girl who was deaf.
02:39:12.000And yes, eugenics was alive and well in this country in the 1920s and preceding World War II.
02:39:18.000And Holmes was, Hitler did, was an admirer of Holmes, and as you point out in your film, the eugenics idea was very much embraced in pre-war Germany as an idea, a thought that, you know, if you cleanse society of those who infected society with, you know, whether they were handicapped or they were too old to be productive, or they were from the wrong gene pool.
02:39:49.000This idea of cleansing society of all those who infect society and are a cost to society, this kind of mentality is something that we have to, we must expose and we must fight against.
02:40:06.000It is vicious, it is done meanly, it is eugenics.
02:40:10.000They claim there's positive and negative eugenics, but the real eugenicist wants to poison, wants to kill, wants to dumb down, wants to hurt people.
02:40:19.000The thing is, though, Alex, is that I don't believe that everyone who is in state, local, or federal government... No, no, no.
02:40:28.000They think it is for the greater good.
02:40:30.000They don't understand that the eugenicists publicly went underground in the 1940s and are what we call the bioethicist boards today.
02:40:39.000Well, I totally agree with that science and scientists and physicians are being worshipped In our society and other technologically advanced societies.
02:40:51.000And what we've done is we have allowed an elitist class to develop who have a great deal of power now because of the advancement in technology and science.
02:41:01.000And what we need to do... And they are eugenicists.
02:41:34.000I thought your film was very interesting.
02:41:37.000Well thank you, but when he gets up and in game and he says in Austin at St.
02:41:43.000Edwards and when he says at the Texas Academy of Sciences meeting in South Texas 90% of us need to die and he projects, and Ebola Airborne's going to do it, and he's a biologist and they project an image of skulls on the wall, crying, you know, three minute standing ovations.
02:42:08.000And I know it's hard to get through that they're this evil, but I'm telling you, they're on a... Go to UT where I live, or go to any major university, go talk to the biology department, they'll go, yes, there's too many people, we need to get rid of 90% right now.
02:42:20.000I mean, that's in the UN Biological Diversity... And it is a slippery slope, isn't it?
02:42:26.000When one adopts this utilitarian rationale that some can be sacrificed for the theoretical greater good, it is a slippery slope, it's seductive, And it can result in a great deal of harm.
02:42:40.000And that's why I fight against it, because I believe in the informed consent ethic.
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02:46:05.000Crashing through the lies and disinformation.
02:46:07.000It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.
02:46:15.000Alright, Barbara Lowe Fisher is our guest.
02:46:17.000Be sure and fire out the website for folks to do their own research.
02:46:19.000Specifically, Barbara, we knew in the trials of HPV for girls, the papillomavirus shot, that it was killing people, and they admitted that.
02:46:29.000We talked about it, they called us conspiracy terrorists.
02:46:30.000Now CBS News admits, you know, big top stories about all the deaths and autoimmune things, and it's like we're bad for saying girls shouldn't be basically told it's the law in Texas to take this when there is no law.
02:46:45.000Well, you know, NVIC issued a special report a couple of weeks ago.
02:46:50.000What we did is we went in and looked at the reports coming into the vaccine adverse event reporting system after Gardasil and after another vaccine called Minactra, a meningococcal vaccine.
02:47:00.000Both were given to the same age groups, 11 to 12 year olds, although Minactra was given to boys and girls and Gardasil only to girls.
02:47:09.000You would expect that you would have, if it was a coincidence, all these events, these Deaths and injuries being reported after Gardasil.
02:47:18.000If it was just a coincidence, you would have had no greater number of reactions reported after, been after than after Gardasil.
02:47:25.000What we found was a 3 to 30 times greater incidence of serious events and deaths reported after Gardasil.
02:47:31.000Confirming our original, in 2006, we put out the first press release challenging the licensing of Gardasil because we, I looked and analyzed those pre-licensure clinical trials.
02:47:43.000And saw that there were a number of serious injuries and deaths in there and they were writing them off as coincidences.
02:47:52.000And what was really awful about those preclinical trials is they only studied 1,200 girls under the age of 16 and yet they targeted the policy at 11 and 12 year old girls.
02:48:03.000So what we found when we looked at the VAERS reports recently is that you have a lot of really serious events like blood clots, cardiac arrest, Hemorrhage, lupus, seizures, strokes, thrombosis, vasculitis.
02:48:19.000You have, you know, it's clear that these girls who are, a lot of them are very high-functioning girls because we're getting the reports into MDIC as well.
02:48:29.000They're 4.0 students, they're gymnasts, cheerleaders, all American girls, high-functioning girls.
02:48:35.000They get one or more of these shots, it's given in a three-dose series, and all of a They can't go to school.
02:49:26.000And we can't get the company, Merck, or the government to admit that there is a problem with this vaccine.
02:49:34.000It's one of the most reactive vaccines I've seen come on the market.
02:49:38.000And they're going to now try to force boys to take it.
02:49:41.000And I guess when people just die and become ill en masse, and they'll just have SWAT teams dance around with police dogs and force everybody to take it when there's no law.
02:49:49.000There's no law, but they force it through color of law intimidation.
02:49:53.000It's just Nazi Germany on steroids, and it's just going to continue on, I guess, forever.
02:49:57.000It was just a few vaccines they used to try to make you take.
02:50:00.000How many is it now they try to inject people with?
02:50:02.000It's 48 doses of 14 vaccines before the age of six.
02:50:09.000And 69 doses of 16 vaccines, if you're a girl, with the addition of HPV vaccine, is the government recommendation.
02:50:16.000And like I said on the show, this is why I'm concerned.
02:50:19.000As they add more and more doses of vaccine, and they couple it with tracking systems, will the day come when you can't say no?
02:50:29.000Well, I want to talk with you about how the UN is saying they want to, because the Africans don't trust them and won't take it, because they don't know what they're doing, quote, they want to now engineer it into food with pharmacological vaccine crops.
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02:52:47.000That's for National Vaccine Information Center, nvic.org.
02:52:51.000And there's a lot of free information there, a lot of resources, you know, other websites you can go to, and I just urge everybody to become as educated as you can about vaccination before you or your child gets vaccinated.
02:53:09.000What about the moves to put vaccines in mosquitoes, to make us take our shots, to put it in food?
02:53:16.000Yeah, I mean, there is a lot of experimentation going on.
02:53:22.000They are trying to come up with ways that they can get these vaccines to populations without people really thinking they're getting vaccinated.
02:53:31.000In other words, rather than putting a needle in your arm, they're looking at novel ways to deliver vaccines.
02:53:38.000And what they're not, and certainly food, putting them in foods like vegetables.
02:53:44.000There was a plan that they talked about, you know, mosquitoes who would then transfer these vaccines.
02:53:50.000But what they don't stop to consider is what can happen when someone gets vaccinated.
02:53:57.000You can always have an adverse reaction.
02:54:00.000Well, when I was going over these documents that I talked about and I had published in the 1990s, There was a super vaccine that they talked about in the mid-90s.
02:54:09.000They actually had a press conference in Washington.
02:54:11.000And what they were talking about is all the world governments coming together to finance the development of a super vaccine.
02:54:21.000And in this vaccine, which was an oral vaccine that would be given at the moment of birth to every child in the world as they emerged from the womb, the vaccine would contain 20 to 30 different viral and bacterial antigens, raw DNA, that would be injected into the cells of the body and be time raw DNA, that would be injected into the cells of the And I remember at the time I thought, you know, what happens if there is a reaction on the first time release?
02:54:46.000How do you get that vaccine out of the body?
02:54:49.000I mean, it's really, we don't understand that we have given people total power to develop vaccines and drugs, et cetera, and there's no oversight on what they're doing.
02:55:04.000I mean, they may think it's a good idea, but what about the people?
02:55:07.000And these are private companies, private companies that then lobby the government to try to force you to take the vaccines, and even if you believe vaccines are good, they admit they don't give a baby a lot because it overwhelms them.
02:55:20.000Imagine 20 plus things orally given to a brand new baby, and it won't matter how many die, they'll just say, oh, the babies are all dying, but it's, it's, we gotta get rid of the population, but it has nothing to do with the vaccines.
02:56:16.000I know that there's more than 2,000 clinical trials around the world that are developing several hundred, testing and developing several hundred vaccines.
02:56:25.000My question has always been, you know, the assumption is That more vaccination is going to equal long-term health.
02:56:34.000I think we need to take a look, though, at the last quarter century.
02:56:37.000As we've tripled the numbers of doses of vaccines we're giving our children, what we've seen is a corresponding rise in chronic disease and disability.
02:56:49.000I want to come back and talk about This, this, this rise, the more vaccines, the more disease, the more problems, the more autoimmune problems, and also the bird flu vaccine that's killed a bunch of people.
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02:58:26.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
02:58:28.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
03:00:10.000All right, Barbara Fisher, expert on vaccines. - Started, and still heads up, the largest and most active and best informed group out there exposing the dangers of vaccines.
03:00:33.000Now they're trying to force people to take them.
03:00:36.000The situation with them trying to mix in live bird flu with the big batches of vaccines they were testing for the flu, when I googled it, I found all these mainstream British and German papers with separate companies and the homeless being given experimental bird flu shots and dying, and the authorities admitting they died from it.
03:00:59.000They told them it was regular flu shots.
03:01:02.000I mean, it's just getting crazier and crazier to the point of we're just kind of accepting of this out-of-control behavior now.
03:01:11.000Well, you know, what I was really, a couple of weeks ago, I guess it's about a month ago now.
03:01:19.000The FDA, which meets on a regular basis, I was actually a consumer rep on the FDA committee between 1999 and 2003, learned a lot about the workings of the FDA.
03:01:34.000That committee is the committee that the companies who want to license new vaccines come forward and present their data, like they presented on Gardasil.
03:01:45.000When the first go-round on Gardasil occurred, I wasn't there when the committee voted on whether or not to license it, but about a month ago, there was a suggestion that they should be allowed to test a bird flu vaccine on six-month-olds, and this is the H5N1 avian flu vaccine.
03:02:09.000And I remember thinking, we don't have an avian flu epidemic, first of all.
03:02:14.000I mean, there were some people who died who were in close contact with birds over in Asia.
03:02:20.000I mean, you have to practically kiss the bird in order to get this avian flu.
03:02:24.000And the bird flu epidemic that they predicted has not taken place, and yet they are aggressively researching development of avian flu virus vaccine.
03:02:35.000So, that occurred about four weeks ago, and then on, I think it was February 27th, that there was this article that was published in that H5N1 avian flu viruses, live avian flu viruses, had somehow contaminated regular flu vaccine that is, you know, given out all over the world.
03:02:59.000And it was a plant in Austria, and they confirmed, they confirmed eventually that yes, There were contaminated, uh, lots of vaccine contaminated with this H5N1 bird flu virus, live virus.
03:03:13.000And it was some worker in Czechoslovakia who decided to inject the vaccine into, I think it was ferrets.
03:04:05.000So, uh, you know, that's just how it works now.
03:04:09.000I wondered because again, I've sat here and watched this for 27 years.
03:04:14.000Back in the 1990s, late 90s, early 2000s, they decided to lower the age for flu vaccine, which has always in this country been 65 years and older.
03:04:27.000They lowered it to 55, I think, and then they lowered it down to 50, and then the next thing I knew, they decided that 6 month old babies had to get it, and then they said that every child between 6 months and 18 years old should get a flu vaccine every year.
03:04:44.000And I thought to myself, why is there such a push for influenza vaccine when the majority of people Do not have flu, and yes it's annoying, and yes you're out for, you know, a week or whatever trying to get over it.
03:06:27.000A lot of mainline doctors, as you know, Barbara Lowe Fisher, are tying it to, they give them all these vaccines, it causes the immune system to go wild, brain swelling, all this autoimmune inflammation, and then everything that shouldn't make you allergenic is, I mean, I guess all the cops, all the firemen, all the bureaucrats, I guess they've got to have dead children all the firemen, all the bureaucrats, I guess they've got to have dead children
03:06:46.000I mean, I guess it's like a black cup of death, and we all drink from it to celebrate, and our children, the most precious thing, fall apart before us, and we get sick, and we just love the government, and thank you, more injections, death, death, death, it's so good.
03:06:59.000I think, well, you know, I understand what you're saying.
03:07:02.000I think that there have been a lot of people who have believed in the past.
03:07:06.000Certainly, that more vaccination was going to equal better long-term health.
03:07:21.000There are a lot of people now, a lot of families out there who have sick kids that were healthy before vaccination and now are chronically ill or disabled or are saying, wait a minute.
03:07:32.000And it is that mass examination that's occurring by a substantial minority of people, a growing minority of people, that is causing a lot of heartburn at the federal level, the vaccine policy-making level.
03:07:45.000They are starting to look at and start to have meetings around the country to ask people, why are you concerned about vaccination?
03:07:53.000And what they're hearing from people in every single community that they go out to Is their hearing, well, you know what?
03:08:00.000I either have a kid, they either have a kid who's disabled or they know somebody who became disabled after vaccination.
03:08:09.000When you have, and you're right, when it starts to reach every home and every family, that's when people go, wait a minute.
03:08:35.000The government admits HPV has caused deaths.
03:08:39.000They admit the bird flu shots killing people.
03:08:41.000If they would have shipped out, or they're still saying it may happen, ship out bird flu, will they now say dying of bird flu is a vaccine and that death is good?
03:08:50.000I mean, if they cause another swine flu epidemic that kills tens of thousands from vaccines, will they say death is good and you're going to be arrested if you don't kill your children?
03:09:01.000You and I aren't even sanely looking at this, okay?
03:10:45.000I am concerned about any attempt to try to censor on the internet or to police what people think.
03:10:53.000I watched the vilification of Andrew Wakefield, who I've known since the late 90s and I know is a scientist who is trying
03:11:02.000Very hard to understand the possible association between autism and vaccination, and because he dared to investigate a politically unpopular, politically incorrect subject, because he dared to speak freely about what he found, he is vilified, demonized, hunted down, destroyed, I defend the right of people to think independently.
03:11:30.000Freedom in science, freedom of speech.
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03:14:25.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
03:14:28.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
03:17:24.000Basically, my daughter, she got her shots, her hepatitis polo, MMR shots a couple years ago.
03:17:33.000And right afterwards, we know that she began to have a mole on her leg.
03:17:39.000And when we put her in the kindergarten, you know, they told us something was wrong.
03:17:44.000They did a bunch of testing and they told us that she has mild autism.
03:17:51.000Yeah, well he just had a big study come out from a major university with veterinary medicine about massive cancer increase in the injection points in the tissues that were injected with vaccines.
03:18:05.000Yeah, well, they just had a big study come out from a major university with veterinary medicine about massive cancer increase in the injection points in the tissues that were injected with vaccines.
03:18:17.000Yeah, I mean certainly it's interesting that the veterinarians are doing a lot of work on the vaccines that are given to animals and the cancer as well as autoimmune problems that pets are now suffering from.
03:18:31.000And actually veterinarians have backed off of The use of so many vaccines, interestingly ahead of the pediatricians who still don't, a lot of them don't get it.
03:18:42.000Hey, Barbara, I got a lot of friends that have lost their dogs.
03:18:44.000Every time they go in for a checkup or have the teeth cleaned, every year they inject them and their dogs die.
03:18:49.000They have seizures and die on the table.
03:18:51.000Boy, the doctor, I mean, you know, they can figure that out with a dog.
03:18:53.000Yeah, no, it's very interesting how the veterinarians are ahead of this.
03:18:59.000And, you know, my own son had a very violent local reaction.
03:19:03.000My son, who suffered a brain inflammation in 1980 after his fourth DPT shot, within hours of the fourth DPT shot.
03:19:11.000But on his third shot, he'd had this big, hard, red, hot lump that stayed at the site of the injection for weeks.
03:19:17.000And I remember calling the doctor's office and the nurse said, oh, it was a bad lot of DPT vaccine.
03:19:22.000And I was so clueless, I thought she meant it didn't work, it was too weak or something.
03:19:26.000And I said, should I bring him down for another one?
03:19:29.000But I didn't know at the time that that local kind of reaction was actually a contraindication to further pertussis vaccine, at least in Britain.
03:19:36.000So, you know, again, the people haven't really been informed about the risk.
03:19:41.000I have not actually looked at the injection site in terms of creation of a mold or something like that.
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03:20:50.000Mercury-containing vaccines may help not harm kids, according to two new studies in the journal Pediatrics.
03:20:57.000There have been widespread concerns that mercury-based preservatives in vaccines might impair the neurological development of children.
03:21:03.000These new studies suggest that the opposite, that the preservatives may actually be associated with improved behavior and mental performance.
03:21:28.000I'm the crazy one, with all the death and destruction and annihilation of our children to my left and to my right, in front of me and in back of me, and I'm saying mercury's deadly, it attacks the neurons like no other heavy metal, and they just say, no!
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03:25:03.000All right, I'm going to go to your calls a little bit quicker here, so please have your question and comment ready.
03:25:10.000There's Wes calling in Vegas with a devastating his daughter.
03:25:14.000I'll continue with Barbara Lowe Fisher here in just a moment, put her website up on screen, be sure and spread it out to people.
03:25:20.000Because even if you know all about this stuff, your neighbors, your friends, your family, I got people who work here, who know all about this, see the articles every day, they can't get their wives to wake up.
03:25:30.000Because, well, the doctor wouldn't hurt me.
03:25:36.000You know, there were a lot of good doctors, too, that carried out half a million forced sterilizations in this country that went on into the 1980s.
03:25:43.000By the way, it's still going on, but that's mainstream news, 1987, in Oregon.
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03:28:43.000So, I mean, I think that once you become educated, knowledge is power, and you can then talk to your family, your friends.
03:29:30.000They are now admitting that more than 90% of the baby formula has melamine.
03:29:35.000They always admitted it was deadly before, now they just say, oh, we decided melamine isn't bad for you.
03:29:39.000I mean, this is entering the realm of complete insanity, that they're getting away with this out in the open, Barbara.
03:29:46.000Well, and again, I think, you know, the right to make choices about what you put in your body, about what you're exposed to, the toxins you're exposed to, is absolutely a human right.
03:29:55.000And so, you know, if we want to have that right, we can't be complacent.
03:30:00.000And I think that was the message in your movie as well.
03:30:02.000You know, when you interviewed people in Canada and here who didn't understand that there was even a European Union or a North American Union, for example, was being suggested, that shows that we've become very insulated sometimes.
03:30:16.000Oh yeah, but listen, I get emails every day saying the North American Union doesn't exist, but also the Euro doesn't exist.
03:30:22.000Yeah, well I was in Europe last year and I hadn't been there for many years and I realized how different it was.
03:30:32.000Because everyone has one currency, and there are really no borders.
03:30:36.000You're able to move between countries, whereas you couldn't before.
03:31:03.000Americans have the lowest per capita of holding passports in any country.
03:31:07.000Yeah, and so we just don't understand what really is happening over there.
03:31:11.000And I remember when I was over there and I saw the BBC who was interpreting, I happened to be there when the whole stock market crash happened, and how they interpreted what was happening in the United States.
03:31:22.000And I remember at the beginning of the trip, They were saying, oh poor America, whatever.
03:31:27.000By the end, they were blaming America.
03:31:30.000It was fascinating to watch their interpretation of what was happening here.
03:31:35.000But again, the people, wonderful people, the people over there who now don't, I think eventually there will be no remembrance of what Belgium, for example, or Austria, or Germany, or Italy, or France, because it is becoming very blended.
03:32:02.000Thank you for taking my call and for enlightening us.
03:32:05.000This is a great topic, and I've been learning a lot.
03:32:09.000I was becoming increasingly concerned with my son, who's now seven.
03:32:14.000Um, after his, it was either an MMR or diphtheria and he had a reaction to that.
03:32:20.000And so then later I refused the chickenpox vaccine and I was told by his pediatrician that, um, well that would be becoming a law soon.
03:32:30.000And I said, well, it's not, you know, don't get me wrong.
03:32:32.000It's not that I want my child to be ill, but it's, um, There hasn't been enough research for me to feel comfortable about saying that.
03:32:39.000Well, at least he told you that they were trying to pass a law.
03:32:43.000Usually they just say, police, go rest.
03:32:45.000You know, and it's like, this is Al-Qaeda we're talking about.
03:32:48.000I mean, Barbara, I'll just interrupt Robin for a moment.
03:32:52.000I mean, I see these cases all the time.
03:32:53.000I know you must see a lot where they call CPS on people that say no to vaccines when there's no law.
03:32:58.000Well, there actually are laws in place, but there's exemption to the laws.
03:33:02.000And if you're in Texas, there's a wonderful organization in Texas, Parents Requesting Open Vaccine Education Proved, headed up by Dawn Richardson.
03:33:12.000She was the one that went to battle for seven years in the state legislature against the vaccine lobby, the forced vaccination lobby, and won the right for people in Texas, parents in Texas, to exercise contractual belief exemption.
03:33:26.000Barbara, I hate to disagree with you, but studying the law on this and having lawyers on concerning it, to be specific, Take Rick Perry.
03:33:35.000He says it's the law, you've got to take the human papillomavirus HPV shot.
03:33:42.000All he did was say it's the list of mandatory to be in school through the health department, and then that's not a law, it's a regulation, so they have you sign the form as a waiver.
03:34:17.000Well, 18 states have conscientious belief or philosophical or personal belief exemption.
03:34:21.000It's stated differently in different states.
03:34:24.000Now, what Rick Perry did with Gardasil, it was a new vaccine, and he issued an executive order going over the head of the legislature, which eventually basically overrode his executive order.
03:34:36.000But in Texas, it's one of the 18 states that allows conscientious belief exemption because of the work of parents in the late 90s, early 2000s.
03:34:45.000So while it's a law, there are exemptions.
03:34:48.000And what we have to fight to protect is particularly the religious and conscientious belief exemption.
03:34:53.000If we lose those exemptions and we only have medical, We are going to really be in trouble.
03:34:59.000I'm not taking any of the shots, and they're not killing my kids or maiming them, and that's the end of it.
03:35:04.000Robin, so tell us what happened to your daughter again.
03:35:44.000But when my son was born, we did not sign his birth certificate.
03:35:51.000Because if you look underneath the section of the, they call it an informant, and that's what you become, an informant to the government.
03:36:01.000And so we did not sign his birth certificate, and we did not give him a social security number, because that social security number was never meant to be an ID number.
03:36:11.000That's what Barbara was saying at the start of the show.
03:36:13.000And so we refused both of those things.
03:36:15.000Now, we don't get a tax break, you know, because he doesn't have a social security number.
03:36:21.000He is a sovereign United States citizen, and I think more people need to start standing firm on that, because with what's going on in Florida, people are being taken from their homes, and that's because, probably, because they signed these documents, and they've become wards of the state.
03:36:53.000For either one of the two of you, do you know anything about TB tests?
03:37:00.000I used to work in a hospital in Las Vegas some years ago and I don't know whether or not it was the county or whether it was the state thing where they required anyone who worked in the hospital to get Um, tested for TB on a yearly basis, and I don't know if there was anything in the shot.
03:37:18.000Were you given... The TB test is supposedly the, uh, the, uh, shells of the, of the microorganism to test for antibodies of it to then see if you have it.
03:37:28.000Because if you have an inflammation, that means you have TB because you have an autoimmune response.
03:37:33.000Yeah, the TB test is not a vaccine in that sense and they are developing a TB vaccine because they're talking about medication resistant TB that is cropping up around the world and they're afraid that it might come into the United States and become a problem but Right now, there is no TB vaccine that is required in this country, although it's called BCG vaccine and there are some foreign countries who do require it, but we do not.
03:38:01.000We do not have a TB vaccine and that time test is not a vaccine.
03:38:07.000I still wouldn't take it because it's a shell of the organism, it's DNA.
03:38:12.000Yeah, well I no longer work at the hospital and at the time when I Well, what they do is terrorize doctors and medical workers, and they're all scared, but there are more and more doctors who are vaccine free and will not harass you and get in your face.
03:38:26.000at this point because it's been so many years ago, but I was just curious to know about that.
03:38:30.000What they do is terrorize doctors and medical workers, and they're all scared, but there are more and more doctors who are vaccine-free and will not harass you and get in your face.
03:38:39.000We have a pediatrician who's like that.
03:38:42.000And as more and more of us say no, they can't look at you like you've got 14 heads when you say no to shots at birth.
03:38:47.000And then later the nurses, the last baby we had, said, yeah, none of us take them either.
03:38:51.000You want to see how many kids when we shoot them up have seizures?
03:38:54.000Yeah, yeah, none of us take it either.
03:38:58.000Do you run into a lot of that, Barbara Lowe Fisher, where the medical?
03:39:01.000What I am running into is that there is a growing resistance among health care workers to being forced to, for example, get annual influenza vaccine.
03:39:09.000There are several court cases out in the West Of nurses unions who are protesting being forced to get vaccinations in order to be able to practice.
03:39:22.000So, I mean, I think it's becoming an issue, not just for people, average citizens, but even the healthcare workers are being oppressed now.
03:39:30.000It's gonna, when the smallpox vaccine that they wanted to dilute, they wanted to dilute the supply.
03:39:35.000They tried to make the police take it and they said no.
03:39:37.000Yeah, the first responders, they tried to make take it.
03:39:40.000And NBIC issued this report about how risky that old smallpox vaccine really was, and other organizations then also did it, and the healthcare workers rejected the smallpox vaccine plan, and that's when it fell apart.
03:39:59.000Barbara, you know, I have a 12-month-old daughter, and Alex, you had mentioned when you came back from break that some of the biggest challenges Amongst your staff with this topic is really convincing their wives about the negative effects of vaccines, and that's really the challenge that I'm having.
03:40:19.000Well, the chances are it'll fry the first kid and say, next, honey, can we now have a couple more that you didn't, you know, basically assault?
03:40:26.000You know, I mean, women are loving and good and are scared for their children and the fear of the government, you know, the fear they put in them makes them go out and take the shot.
03:40:37.000Well, I think that, again, I'm all for information and I think when people take the time to read the information, and we encourage them to read all the information, most people who become educated about vaccination know what to do.
03:40:51.000It's when they trust blindly other people telling them what to do.
03:40:56.000I'm all for people empowering themselves.
03:41:01.000I look at the information and I process it and then I make a decision as to what is best.
03:41:06.000Barbara, I'm sure you've seen all the TV shows where the mother goes, she was a cheerleader in top of her class and I just want to protect her.
03:41:13.000I wish somebody would have told me HPV's been killing people.
03:41:21.000Yeah, we do have to warn everyone to become informed.
03:41:25.000Because when something happens to your child, you, who are going to live with the consequences, whatever decision you make, it's not going to be the health official sitting in Atlanta or in your state capitol or the politician that you elected to office.
03:41:40.000It's going to be you, ultimately, who live with the pain of whatever happens to your child.
03:41:47.000And so, you need to take responsibility and understand the choices that you're making And understand that you're going to be accountable and you're going to be responsible ultimately for those decisions.
03:41:59.000And I think that this is where I have a lot of trouble with this sort of greater good argument that they keep making.
03:42:05.000The argument is you don't have the right as an individual parent to make that choice for your child because if you don't make the choice that the government says you need to make, in this case get vaccinated, you put your neighbor's child at risk.
03:42:18.000I've always said if the vaccines are as effective as the companies and I've said they are.
03:42:23.000Then you should have, then the vaccinated should have nothing to fear from those who choose not to get vaccinated.
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03:44:24.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
03:44:27.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
03:47:28.000If I'm right, because we only found you, Alex, two weeks ago, so we've been on a roll for all two weeks of trying to, like, listen to your programs without reruns and stuff.
03:47:37.000If I'm correct, you believe that Obama was placed in office in order to calm people down?
03:47:51.000It's calm everybody down to accept the global government as they've announced in the London Telegraph, new global currency, and then they'll destroy him in the end.
03:47:58.000I gotta jump because we got a special guest on.
03:48:00.000Call me back tomorrow and we can talk more about that.
03:48:09.000Basically, I was just wondering what you guys, because you were talking about mercury a little bit earlier, and things like that, and the toxicity of things.
03:48:15.000Basically, I was just wondering what you guys had to say about the one dentist, Hal Huggins.
03:48:21.000The guy that does the amalgam filling removal?
03:48:27.000I mean, it's certainly not good for you, I know that.
03:48:31.000Well, I mean, he kind of got, you know, publicly bashed, like, on the internet and stuff like that, and, you know, in a lot of different places.
03:48:38.000I mean, do you think there's validity to what he does and stuff like that?
03:48:40.000You know, I'm not specifically really up on a lot of his stuff.
03:49:41.000I mean, I think that you can successfully argue, if you only, for example, have religious exemption.
03:49:46.000I know Montana at least has religious.
03:49:48.000You can certainly successfully argue that it is your spiritual belief And that you are exercising your beliefs.
03:49:55.000And you know, they can't discriminate against whether or not... Some people have said, oh, you have to belong to a church... Tara, just be authoritative.