On today's show, Alex talks about a story about how the gun lobby paid for anti-Second Amendment testimony from a gun control group in order to get their side of the story aired on a local TV station in Texas.
00:00:36.000And because I've been unable to find this particular tape, he was able to find it.
00:00:40.000uh... in uh... his store of TV programs I did.
00:00:43.000Pay off for anti-gun testimony caught on tape by Alex Jones is the headline up at InfoWars.com and the reason this story is important we're going to play the video here is that
00:01:01.000Uh, Jews to Preservation of Firearms Ownerships, local director, we were there testifying against shutting down the gun shows, ending private sales, shutting down 4-H shooting clubs, YMCA shooting clubs for young people and children.
00:01:32.000Because the NRA was calling us extremists for not wanting to shut down the gun shows and things.
00:01:37.000This was in the Dallas Morning News, attacking me and others.
00:01:41.000And then when we caught the bribery, they said, get out here.
00:01:43.000You know, they're, what looks like bribery, being paid off.
00:01:46.000And the House Ethics Committee said that he should have been a registered lobbyist, that it was improper.
00:01:51.000But then the investigation stopped there, and Hena Hoza, the committee chairman, did get reprimanded.
00:01:56.000But they get up and they say, yeah, basically there's dangerous gang members everywhere.
00:02:01.000Uh, and we've, you know, you need to restrict guns, you need to restrict gun shows.
00:02:06.000And then they go outside and this gun control group sits there and pays them off at least $300 a piece, the, uh, three guys that testified.
00:02:15.000And then the statesman called me the next day after we put the video out on local TV, I was live that night, and said, why don't you like black people?
00:02:23.000And I said, what are you talking about?
00:02:24.000Well, if those were white men being paid and testifying against the Second Amendment, would you have done your story?
00:02:30.000And I said, I wouldn't care if they were green.
00:09:41.000First question I would like to ask is, do we have an epidemic of gun violence?
00:09:46.000Because the proponents of the legislation have delayed the very well-intended and sincere testimony of the Maroon 5 march members and others, which leads to believe we have an epidemic of gun violence.
00:09:58.000Texas and the United States are safer than they have ever been.
00:10:01.000I won't go into detail, but if you look through the clipping file here that has information from the National Center for Health Statistics and the Centers for Disease Control, U.S. gun deaths at the moment since the mid-60s will say that we do not have an epidemic of gun violence.
00:10:17.000And we may be in a situation where we're having solutions seeking a problem.
00:10:21.000Payments made to backers of gun bills.
00:10:25.000Questions arise over cash given to three witnesses who support gun show background checks.
00:10:31.000Proponents of gun owners' rights asked Lawmakers Friday to investigate cash payments made to three Houston men who appeared before a House committee this week to support bills that would require instant background checks at gun shows.
00:10:44.000Dave Smith, president of Houston-based Texans for Gun Safety, A known front that is funded by Hanger Control Incorporated said he gave the three members of Young Texans Against Gun Violence, Nina Butz's group is Texans Against Gun Violence, about $300 each to cover their expenses and lost wages for the trip.
00:11:02.000All three men, however, said they are currently unemployed.
00:11:06.000So, they can't get their lives straight.
00:11:31.000The money that was given to us was not to change our testimony, said Bruce Brown, 18, who did not speak to the committee, but submitted a witness form that showed he supported the bills.
00:11:40.000Smith, who gave the men the cash just outside the committee hearing room, said Young Texans Against Gun Violence is an arm of his group.
00:11:47.000The subsidiary group receives donations from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, And the Alliance for Justice.
00:11:54.000Those groups encourage young people to get experience in the political process, Smith said.
00:12:00.000Reimbursing witnesses for travel expenses is not unusual, said Susie Woodford of Common Cause Texas, a group that monitors government ethics.
00:12:08.000But she said other witnesses using cash and paying for witnesses, time raises ethical questions.
00:12:13.000It totally undermines the witnesses' credibility, Woodford said.
00:12:20.000I got here, I said, how will this look?
00:12:23.000It says, complaints about the payments began circulating after Austin-based talk show host Alex Jones, who was at the House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee meeting Tuesday, aired videotaped interviews with Smith and the young men.
00:12:37.000They told Jones the money was reimbursement, stipends and campaign contributions.
00:12:54.000Head of Gun Owners Alliance has asked his thousands of members to seek a house investigation of the payments and to have the hearing disregarded.
00:13:03.000Smith said complaints are being raised because the young men are minorities.
00:13:06.000Jones, a strong supporter of gun owners' rights, said Smith was trying to cover up his dirty activities by making accusations of racism.
00:13:12.000He's sitting here, caught on tape, throwing out different stories and giving out money, said Jones, who mentioned the payments during his testimony against the proposal to require background checks at gun shows.
00:13:22.000How dare he try to divert attention by saying I'm a racist?
00:13:26.000Committee members Rick Green, R. Dripping Springs, and Juan Hena-Hoza McAllen said they were uneasy about taking Jones seriously because of other inflammatory comments he has made.
00:13:34.000Hinojosa, the chairman of the committee, said that although he didn't know details about the payments, he is not concerned if the witnesses are compensated for testifying.
00:13:42.000Hinojosa said lobbyists are compensated for their work to influence policy on behalf of other interests.
00:13:47.000Maybe these kids were paid for their travel, but I don't see anything improper about it, Hinojosa said.
00:13:54.000State law requires people who are paid more than $1,000 in three months or who spend more than $500 a quarter trying to influence legislation or agency action to register as lobbyists.
00:14:04.000So you broke the state election laws, bud.
00:15:03.000Folks, it's so crazy in here setting up guests.
00:15:05.000I was just talking to Ron Paul's office and then after that I was talking to Chuck Baldwin's office just now and setting up the state police officer right now.
00:15:19.000What I'm going to do is I'm just going to come back from break.
00:15:22.000We're going to push Oath Keepers back to about 15 after next hour if I have time to talk on air to the state police officer and restart what I was just covering here with the MIAC report because I got on air and realized I wanted the MIAC report and found it here in the disheveled stack.
00:15:37.000So we're going to talk to David, state police officer.
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00:18:47.000FreshwaterOrganics.com Last Wednesday, we broke a report separately sent to us by two separate state police officers in two different states.
00:19:04.000MYAC Strategic Report, the modern militia.
00:19:06.000This is federally written to the fusion centers, distributed all over the country.
00:19:10.000This is the Missouri version with the governor's seal on it.
00:19:12.000We've got state reps on that have talked to the head of the state police there.
00:19:46.000And have him tell the story of what it's like to have these in the department, other reports they've had, what other officers are saying and what it's like to see this blown up so big.
00:19:55.000We appreciate his courage because they do have retribution against officers and they talk about that in here if it gets out.
00:20:01.000Sir, we appreciate you upholding your oath to protect and defend the Bill of Rights and Constitution that so many have fought and died for.
00:20:12.000Okay, uh, tell us when you first got this and what it was like reading it and what other officers are saying.
00:20:17.000Well, they emailed it to all the aerial officers and officers and it's like a training thing, you know, and when I pulled it up on the screen, at first I was in disbelief after I read it and I had to read it a couple of times to understand what are they saying?
00:20:41.000When I read it, when I ran it past a few other officers, you know, and they had the same twist that I had on it, that they were actually saying that some of us were militia members, that we belong to a militia group just because, as myself, I have a Ron Paul sticker on my car.
00:21:01.000Some other officers, they believe that gun control is not correct and that we shouldn't be marking up bullets, ammunition, Act that they're trying to pass through, and listen, wait a minute, this is like a big net taking in everybody.
00:21:17.000You know, it just doesn't, it didn't appear right, and it seemed like this thing was just anti-American all the way.
00:21:52.000You know, and a few of them looked at the author of the article and they said, well, of course, that this is probably what comes out of this agency.
00:22:05.000Yeah, we decided to go with your cell phone because it doesn't have a good connection and kind of distorts your voice, but it's doing its job too well right now.
00:22:12.000So just, I guess maybe speak a little bit louder for us, officer.
00:22:16.000I don't want to give out any details about where you are or how senior you are, but we just appreciate, again, your courage coming on.
00:22:22.000How long ago did you first get emailed this?
00:22:34.000And it took me that long to digest what was actually on this document and really interpret what they were trying to tell us.
00:22:45.000Well, it's a guilt by association document.
00:22:47.000I mean, do you agree they mix white supremacists and cop killers in with basically every libertarian or conservative or anti-corruption group under the sun and three popular presidential candidates and a sitting congressman?
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00:25:01.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:25:05.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:25:11.000We are back live, now already into our number three.
00:25:14.000In about 15 minutes we've got Oath Keepers, a group for police, military, and others are saying we're going to uphold the Constitutional Bill of Rights.
00:25:21.000Very well written, very well done site because it's a constitutional lawyer that started it, but a lot of police and military have joined and pledged their oath to protect and defend the Constitutional Bill of Rights.
00:25:29.000We've got a gentleman on the line right now, state police officer, we'll just call him David, that's not his name.
00:25:35.000His name has been changed to protect the innocent, those defending the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
00:25:40.000We're talking about the MIAC strategic report.
00:25:56.000This is going all over the country, that's confirmed.
00:25:58.000We're not going to get into that though, because that can get into where you're at.
00:26:04.000And, I mean, what has this meant to give patrol officers this?
00:26:07.000Because they talk about when they pull you over, you know, if you see these bumper stickers, if you see this, if you see that, they start the whole page out with cop killing, I guess to prejudice the police, but it doesn't look like it's working too well.
00:26:18.000So is this profiling and demonizing anybody that disagrees with the government?
00:26:34.000Officers in my agency can see through this ruse, and they understand that this document is meant to enslave the American people, and I don't think it's going to work.
00:26:48.000It's so obvious to lean one way to be a net that encompasses everybody.
00:26:55.000Like I said, even though I don't have that right-wing, left-wing, false paradigm, but even the right-wingers in my Well, they're certainly losing now.
00:27:06.000Congressman Ron Paul, former Congressman Bob Barr, and presidential candidates are saying they're going to sue if they don't retract this.
00:27:12.000to profile i think they lost well they're certainly losing now congressman ron paul former congressman bob bar and uh...
00:27:22.000presidential candidates lab arm are saying they're going to sue if they don't retract this right and you know what i think what they're trying to do to try to train the young officers I mean, the really young, impressionable officers.
00:27:41.000But they don't understand, these young officers that are coming into these departments, a lot of them are really smart and sharp.
00:27:47.000They're coming in with four-year degrees.
00:27:50.000I know a couple of attorneys that have just started the department, and they can see through this, Alex.
00:27:57.000I think these people are running scared now.
00:27:59.000I think you and your office And people like you have done such a great job informing the American public that people are seeing through these people.
00:28:09.000The American citizens are seeing through these people.
00:28:12.000What type of things were the state police officers in your office saying when they read this?
00:29:04.000And you're saying if the statements are getting like, sounds like you're saying bordering on, we're going to resist this.
00:29:14.000I would say 80 to 90% of the officers that I spoke to, and that's at like 80 officers, 90 officers, are saying, no, this is not going to work.
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00:31:09.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:31:11.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
00:32:55.000Foreign offshore banks are engaged in a corporate takeover of the United States, just like they've done to hundreds of third world countries.
00:33:07.000They're announcing, I've got Reuters, world taxes on everything you do to private banks.
00:33:13.000It's all over the news, there's a new world order.
00:33:15.000So what happens when the state police and police open up these federally written reports saying none of this exists, you're a violent cop-killer if you talk about it?
00:33:25.000If people have these bumper stickers, look out, and we have out of Las Vegas the footage of them pulling somebody over, what's that Ron Paul sticker on your car?
00:33:32.000I guess that's the 10% the officer's talking about that I guess buy this.
00:33:35.000We've got Abby Newman being pulled over at a checkpoint, and she's got a pocket Constitution, and they grab it and say, is this legal?
00:33:41.000And on the squad car video, they have a discussion about if she's allowed to have it, when all it is is what this country's founded on, what they swear an oath to.
00:33:49.000Officer, specifically, you know, the New World Order is becoming big news now.
00:33:54.000I would imagine the officers, you say, are getting upset.
00:33:57.000I mean, are they going, wait a minute, they're admitting there's a New World Order.
00:34:00.000Why are they then saying you're a cop killer, basically, if you talk about a New World Order?
00:34:06.000I don't know exactly why I think that they're reaching.
00:34:10.000I think they're in desperation right now.
00:34:13.000They understand that they're being exposed.
00:34:42.000They're shipping right now, but imagine we had thousands of orders, we've got four people back there since Monday, just packaging, packaging, so it's on the way.
00:34:50.000And another thing, Alex, since I've been listening to you, probably since the end of 2005, And luckily I have, because you have saved me in literally hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:35:04.000You got me out of the stock market for your guests.
00:35:08.000I've sold my own before the market crashed.
00:35:11.000And all of these things, the other officers realize, and I tell them, you know, Alex Jones has saved me money.
00:35:21.000And now the Obama deception, and now this, my document is further pushing people towards Your show, your radio show, because they know that you're giving out the truth.
00:35:35.000Why do you think people were in denial, even state reps and people that know I tell the truth, when they first saw it, they couldn't believe it, then they called the state police and they said, yeah, that's our document, we're proud of it.
00:35:47.000Well, it was so over the top, you know.
00:35:52.000developing right now you probably can feel it I can feel it no yeah they know it's tipping over right now and we're getting the right amount of people waking up where it's gonna have a deluge effect on on this country America's gonna wake up and and grow well what happens you know with tipping points in history is it can tip in the evil or tip in the good
00:36:18.000And because we've done the groundwork and warned people, and because we were right about what was going to happen and what was going to develop, and people have seen that in hindsight with my 22 films and the work we've done, but countless others out there fighting, that we have a fighting chance in this.
00:36:31.000But people need to know, the enemy will stage terror attacks.
00:37:07.000by the police that have been brainwashed and been militarized, and then I lash out instead of, historically we need to reach out to police and military, and they are waking up now.
00:37:16.000Look, Ron Paul got more contributions from the military than anybody else.
00:37:19.000And that's how we're going to defeat this.
00:37:21.000As Jack McClam says, we've got to have the police on our side.
00:37:24.000Because the truth is we're all on the same side, even if we decide to fight with each other.
00:37:28.000When we fight with each other, the New World Order wins.
00:37:59.000I impressed upon at least the young officers, the old officers, they understand what's going on, where this country is going, and they understand they have to wake up and they have to be on the side of America.
00:38:11.000And we took an oath, and I remind these people that this oath is for our country.
00:38:22.000This is the best Constitution in the world, and we have to keep it in force.
00:38:28.000Yeah, basically this report takes the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, everything good and wholesome, and then just spray paints white supremacist cop killer all over it in an attempt to demonize the very heart of this country.
00:38:41.000It's asinine, it's a fraud, and I am just buoyed by the fact that so many police and military are waking up, not from my information, but from the over-the-top nature of the criminal fed government's propaganda.
00:38:58.000Right, and coupled with what Obama's doing right now, he's doing what you predicted he would do.
00:39:03.000I mean, with his gun control, he's doing exactly what you're saying.
00:39:08.000He's trying to stop us from having 2-2-3 rounds, from having 3-0-8 rounds, and this is nuts.
00:39:17.000Well, I mean, I'd like to brag and say I'm real smart, but I'm really not.
00:39:20.000I just go off what the white papers in government and corporations say they're going to do, versus what they publicly say on the news.
00:39:27.000I mean, my job's like reading a TV guide.
00:39:30.000I mean, the UN, on July 7th, 2001, at the UNITER meeting in New York with thousands in attendance, said, we're going to take every civilian-owned firearm, period, single-shot, black powder, we're going to take all of it.
00:40:14.000Portions of it, but they don't get it totally.
00:40:20.000That's a little bit of a difficult role to hold.
00:40:27.000But you're saying on the Second Amendment issue, and because of the document, cop killer, white supremacist, we've got to restrict guns, you know, they mix that in, they saw through that?
00:40:37.000Because, like I said, a lot of them, almost majority of them, you know, They have guns, they have rifles, they go to ranges, they shoot, and I guess some of them are called gun nuts, you know, and they're not going to get their guns, they're not.
00:40:58.000But they are trying to hire a bunch of social worker, mainline liberal types who are anti-gun-to-be-police, but once they get into the culture, it is a pro-Second Amendment, pro-self-defense culture.
00:41:08.000I mean, the 10% that are brainwashed, what are they like?
00:41:14.000A few of them are Obama supporters, and a couple of them I know mainly because they're wives, and they get harassed for it.
00:41:28.000It's kind of hard to have a cookie cutter for them.
00:42:23.000This is waking a lot of people up as to what's really going on in this country.
00:42:30.000Well, I think the police I talk to are starting to realize, too, that it's not going to be a fun job trying to disarm the American people, because 10% of gun owners are a lot of them are veterans.
00:42:41.000They're not happy about life, the economy.
00:42:43.000If 10% of 140 million gun owners fight back, we're talking about 10 million, 14 million people.
00:42:50.000I mean, do the police ever talk about what it would be like to try to go out and confiscate guns?
00:43:03.000They don't think it's going to come to that.
00:43:05.000But I try to put that little thought in their head, so they at least think about it.
00:43:09.000So when that decision does arrive, at least they have thought about it.
00:43:16.000Well, they'll keep doing it incrementally, but I just hope that officers are supposed to judge the law as well as the facts, have wide discretion, because I've run over the law.
00:43:29.000I know most police are pro-Second Amendment because they understand guns, they're not stupid.
00:43:32.000But then you've got that other type, where you can be in the countryside now in East Texas, walking across the road to your land to go bird hunting, a cop will pull up and say, what's that shotgun for?
00:43:40.000So, there's certainly that percentage, that 10%.
00:43:43.000Well, I mean, I'm sure you've heard about Ron Paul supporters that have been harassed, and now we know why.
00:43:48.000Well, why do you have a Ron Paul sticker?
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00:47:11.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:47:13.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
00:49:55.000But masses of military and police have been saying they pledge to be oath keepers and not violate the Bill of Rights Constitution and to follow their oath.
00:50:04.000Uh, and it's, it's, when I read it, I said, this person has a deep knowledge of what's going on, because this is how I would have written it, probably better than I would have written it.
00:50:11.000So, uh, Stuart Rhodes, thanks for coming on, sir.
00:50:14.000Oh, you're welcome, and you're absolutely right.
00:50:20.000And that's exactly what we are here to do, is to bring more men like that out.
00:50:26.000And most of the members of our organization don't use their real names, or we don't even want to know who they are.
00:50:33.000Because just like that gentleman there just did, we want them to be able to continue in their job and continue doing the good work for the American people.
00:50:40.000But because the federal government is so out of control and criminal, I mean, that's a sad testament that these officers don't even really have their own First Amendment to say they don't appreciate the country being destroyed.
00:50:50.000That's right, and standing up and saying you might actually obey the Constitution, because yes you can.
00:50:56.000So that's the world we live in right now.
00:51:00.000You can see the float of testimonials we have in from veterans.
00:51:03.000Most of the veterans are not afraid to put their name on it because they're no longer within reach of being punished for it.
00:51:10.000And they're standing up and saying, no, we're not going to do this.
00:51:12.000And the veterans are very important because the veterans are there to teach the young bucks how to behave, to show them what they're supposed to be doing.
00:51:21.000And so that's our mission, is to remind them of their oath.
00:51:24.000to teach them what it was they swore an oath to defend, and then to steal their resolve to do what's right.
00:51:33.000You've got to do it ahead of time so that when you draw your own lines in the sand and prepare yourself mentally to do what's right, and then you'll do it.
00:51:41.000Just amazing testimonials on the sidewalk.
00:51:45.000What gave you the idea to create this and how many people have come on the site and pledged in just a few weeks it's been up that they're going to stand by the Constitution and Bill of Rights?
00:51:55.000Well, I was working for Congressman Paul's campaign here in Nevada.
00:52:00.000office, but I was so focused on the campaign.
00:52:02.000But about a year and a half ago, I had the idea that, you know, what do we do next?
00:52:06.000And if this campaign's not successful, what's our next move?
00:52:09.000And my thought was, well, let's have our focus of effort be on the men with the guns.
00:52:16.000If you're going to have an awakening of one million people, if you're going to have a chance to awaken one million people, to be constitutionalist, would you want to focus on the military?
00:52:25.000And those are the men who are supposed to be our guardians.
00:54:13.000Yeah, the globalists have overplayed their hand.
00:54:14.000I keep telling listeners, the phony churches on government payroll, I told you this a decade ago, now it's declassified, are telling you to stand down.
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00:56:09.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:56:12.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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00:58:35.000And the lives they lead, far ahead of their time.
00:58:44.000Without the Renegades, Lord knows where we'd be.
00:58:52.000When it comes to heroes, Renegades are mine.
00:58:56.000And going back to the Mordor analogy, you have the tower, the mountain of power, the all-seeing eye, with its armies moving across the world, but right here, And it's command base right here in Empire US.
00:59:10.000It is distracted looking, looking everywhere for the ring.
00:59:14.000That's what this MIAC report is, is they're counting on the police and military being Uruk-hai or orcs or black ships from the east.
00:59:23.000They're planning on them going along with this evil and being seduced by the dark side, by being played and manipulated and maneuvered into war with the American people as they destroy their own futures, as they burn their own beds, their own nest.
00:59:43.000You have to first believe that and know that and reach out to the police and military now so they understand and educate them.
00:59:50.000Waking up one police officer or one active duty military person is like waking up a thousand regular Americans.
00:59:56.000Now, we have to also understand that the key here is, is there's people like Stuart Rhodes over there with Oath-Keepers.blogspot.com Oath-Keepers.blogspot.com or just Google his name, Stuart Rhodes Oath Keepers and it'll come up for you.
01:00:12.000We've got it up on screen right now at PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:00:16.000The fact that there is Ron Paul and Alex Jones and Stuart Rhodes and Jesse Ventura and thousands of other prominent people fighting, not just millions waking up and fighting, they killed me and only makes my information grow that much faster.
01:00:29.000If I was the only guy doing this though, I'd be dead.
01:00:31.000If Stuart was the only guy doing this, they'd go set him up or something.
01:01:28.000It's just that they're also trying to divide our movements, trying to demonize, trying to say, don't trust this leader, don't trust that leader.
01:01:55.000Now, go ahead and comment on those points, Stuart Rhodes, and let's get into the Oath Keepers.
01:02:00.000You're absolutely right, and that's why Oath Keepers, we've always stressed that this was first contemplated and first planned before the election.
01:02:27.000In fact, I'll be speaking at a big event in June, a big pro-tropes rally in June.
01:02:33.000I was invited by former Navy SEAL Captain Larry Bailey of Gathering of Eagles.
01:02:38.000So a lot of the more hardcore conservative groups who might not have listened during Bush are starting to wake up and understand what the great danger is.
01:03:47.000That's why they have to demonize people.
01:03:52.000That's why you saw HR 1955 with a bipartisan assault on the American people.
01:03:56.000First thing you do is you label someone the enemy, you make them the other, you dehumanize them, and then you turn the forces against them.
01:04:06.000And so, but we're fighting back, and I think your show is important in that.
01:04:10.000You know what I think woke the military and police up the biggest?
01:04:14.000And we've confirmed this with state police and military everywhere, and it's even been in the news.
01:04:18.000But we knew about it before it was, I mean, the point is before it was in the news, they're telling them that, you know, mainline Americans are about to start bombing police stations.
01:04:26.000The Army's going to be on the streets of America.
01:04:28.000There'll be a new world order, but it's good, and those that are against it are bad.
01:04:32.000They're now seeing the whole apparatus that was supposedly to fight Al-Qaeda has now been swung around like a cannon and aimed at the American people, and the police and military are going, whoa!
01:04:44.000In fact, we just now put up on our site an article on how enemy combatant status was first proposed during the Clinton administration.
01:04:53.000Most folks don't realize that, but that idea of using tribunals for even American citizens was first proposed during the Clinton years.
01:05:01.000To be used against McVeigh and the militias.
01:05:03.000And what Clinton didn't do, Bush unfortunately put into full effect, and now Obama's got it, and it's very likely he'll turn around and apply it domestically.
01:05:14.000That's the big, that's what we think might be the next spark.
01:05:16.000You know, going back to the Mordor analogy, it's just too good.
01:05:19.000Remember when the keeper of the fortress goes insane and says, no, we're all dead, and starts pouring oil on himself, saying, we can't beat them, there's nothing we can do, and sets himself on fire?
01:07:17.000And then I realized they want to split us apart, which puts the police more in their gang mentality and the people more in their mentality.
01:07:35.000We put the truth out, but we have to also add, understand they're encouraging officers to act like this, and understand they're not all like this, and if we fall in to just hating them and being threatened by them, that's what they want.
01:08:32.000This officer says he's a Texas police officer, because after serving in the Navy from 90 to 93 on board the USS Blue Ridge, I became a police officer and I'm still on the force.
01:08:42.000Not only will I refuse any unlawful order that violates the Constitution, I will fight the tyrants that give the orders.
01:08:48.000Rest assured that me and my brothers in law enforcement talk about this subject on a regular basis.
01:08:56.000I ask the rookies that when it comes down to nut-cutting, whose side will you be on?
01:09:01.000Founding fathers who made this country so great, or the tyrants that are in power now.
01:09:05.000I took the oath twice, and will uphold it two-fold.
01:09:08.000God bless America, and he signed his name, Colin Connerly.
01:09:12.000Some people are willing to put their names on it, other folks understandably are not.
01:09:16.000But that's the sentiment we're getting.
01:09:18.000We're getting flooded emails like that, saying, yeah, we're with you, you know?
01:09:26.000Well, I would add to this that, you know, getting into the spiritual angle of this, standing up for liberty and goodness, you know, as Martin Luther King said, the universe bends towards truth, towards justice, that it's providence.
01:09:40.000And if you don't understand that, folks, when you decide to fight evil and really get your head straight, and you really are fighting evil, not being manipulated into fighting some red herring the establishment gives you, they're very good at that, it's like an electrical connection.
01:10:42.000These men, they take it so seriously still.
01:10:45.000I've gotten letters, I can't even read them, I'll start bawling, but letters from Vietnam veterans and Korean War veterans, and they still take that Osterius to this day.
01:10:55.000And they understand that they have a line going all the way back to the men of April 19, 1775, even before that.
01:11:06.000They understand that the line of men who have fought and bled and died for freedom, And they understand that all those men gave him a sacred trust.
01:12:51.000I was on 93.7 FM for an hourish day downtown during South by Southwest, and I walked by three police, and they were all fans of the show and wanted to shake my hand.
01:14:01.000And so what we did is we issued a declaration of 10 orders we will not obey.
01:14:06.000And that's what's kind of causing a lot of controversy and firestorm.
01:14:10.000And when I go around the web and look at different forums that are discussing it, it's what's happening is exactly what we wanted to happen.
01:14:16.000We wanted veterans and current serving military to have discussions about where their line is.
01:14:22.000Each person has their own... I mean, every service member has an obligation.
01:14:27.000Not just that they can refuse a legal order or an lawful order, they have an obligation to.
01:14:34.000And so they have to make a decision for themselves where that line is.
01:14:37.000And so, as the author said a minute ago, you have to do it ahead of time.
01:14:41.000So that's our declaration of 10 orders.
01:14:43.000We carefully cracked these to tie into American history, because history is repeating itself.
01:14:49.000Much of the causes of the revolution are happening again, and also the history of the 20th century, with the death camps and mass internment.
01:15:08.000I know you're a busy guy, but you need to talk to Ted Anderson, maybe at a Genesis radio show or something.
01:15:12.000You're very, very eloquent, and when we come back, we'll go over the ten points, but what I like Is that, you know, that huge rumble revolution, at first people were like, oh, it went nowhere, and I said, no.
01:15:22.000It's a delayed explosion, like in Force 10 Navarone, when they bomb the dam, and they're like, where is it?
01:15:26.000And he just said, just, just sitting there smoking a pipe, just wait a moment.
01:15:30.000Uh, you know, that's how, and then suddenly it starts breaking, boom!
01:15:33.000And, and, and now we're seeing that, and people realize they can defeat the enemy in the Info War, and now they're just blasting, they're picking up arms in the revolution of the mind.
01:17:11.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:17:13.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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01:19:57.000I'm sure you heard, sir, Stuart Rhodes with Oath Keepers, oath-keepers.blogspot.com, that the House has passed the forced conscription of the American people bill, and I happen to have the army code that the Pentagon has issued saying it will be forced military service.
01:20:28.000We were going to do a regular site, but we saw that things were happening.
01:20:32.000In fact, I called Colonel Hapgood, also of the Iowa National Guard, and he lied to me like he lied to you.
01:20:39.000They have a dedicated mouth facility 80 miles north of that town they're going to do exercise in, and he just flat lied to us.
01:20:45.000And so that's one thing that got us hopping mad and decided to put it up on Blogspot first.
01:20:50.000One thing I do want to say, I want to let folks know that I write for Swat Magazine, and I want to make it clear that that's a magazine that's, you know, most people think it's just for law enforcement.
01:21:26.000She used to write the Enemy at the Gate column, and then she asked me to take it over when she got gunned and burned out.
01:21:30.000But their mission is to make sure that there's the separation between law enforcement And the people is broken down.
01:21:36.000They don't believe there should be that separation.
01:21:38.000And so Rich Lucibel, the man that owns SWAT, has stood up and dedicated that entire column every month to the mission of defending the Bill of Rights.
01:21:47.000Well, we knew this would come when the New World Order emerged and admitted everything we've been warning people about.
01:21:52.000That's why I said, even if we get laughed at, tell people the documents, tell them the truth, because when they finally emerge, when they make their big move, which is now happening, Then people would have been warned and then they would wake up, but also as the police and military are being twisted in their mission now to carry out globalism, that would be the big wake-up call there.
01:22:10.000I think the enemy trying to program them right now is waking police and military up faster than even the patriots.
01:22:18.000And of course, Obama is acting like a complete fool with what he did with the veterans and forced them to pay for their own medical care.
01:22:45.000Well, the ten points are just what we think are the most likely hot points and tripwires, and what we think officers should be considering, and soldiers, as the lines in the sand they will not cross.
01:22:55.000Number one is, we will not obey any order to disarm the American people.
01:23:01.000And I was like, you know that was the cause of the first American Revolution, and that was the final spark.
01:23:06.000Lexington and Concord continue, number two.
01:23:09.000Number two, we will not obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.
01:23:12.000And there again, the risk of assistance.
01:23:13.000Warrantless searches were one of the causes of the American Revolution.
01:23:17.000And number three is we will not obey orders to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or to subject them to the military tribunal.
01:23:24.000Stay there, we've got to come back in 70 seconds.
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01:23:57.000No one is going to take care of your family in the final equation but you.
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01:25:23.000The other ones are, we will not obey orders to impose martial law on a state or state emergency on a state.
01:25:32.000Five is we will not obey orders to invade, subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
01:25:36.000That's kind of a reflection on the initiatives that have come out recently where states are standing up and saying, we're going to interpose ourselves between the federal government and our own people.
01:25:45.000And that was an issue back in the 1770s because they would remove governors or legislatures and put in puppets, but go ahead.
01:25:53.000And number six is we will not obey any order to blockade American cities.
01:25:57.000Well, that's turning them into giant concentration camps.
01:25:59.000And that was first done in Boston at the time of the American Revolution.
01:26:02.000Like you just said, Boston was put under military dictatorship with General Gage, and then when the fighting started, the people of Boston were told, if you turn in your guns, we'll give you a safe passage out of the city.
01:26:14.000And they turned their guns in, and then they were told they could not leave.
01:26:17.000And they were kept there, and then it was turned into a concentration camp.
01:26:20.000Until the militia showed up and kicked the British out of Boston.
01:26:25.000So number seven is we will not obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
01:26:32.000And we fight the history, an unfortunate history, of the Japanese internment here at home, but also the history around the world of oppressive governments.
01:26:39.000When they make war on their own people, they put them into camps.
01:26:41.000In part, that's done to put women and children into camps so that the men who are fighting will turn themselves in on behalf of their children.
01:26:49.000And the schools, public schools, admit they've been drilling to grab kids without asking on FEMA buses and then tell parents to report.
01:26:55.000So tyranny does the same thing over and over again.
01:27:35.000No, no, it's just that... No, I mean, I've had Colonel Craig Roberts and others on who have had, like, their nephews at West Point and they, you know, they send in famous generals to tell them we're gonna use foreign troops, but it's a good thing.
01:28:08.000We will not obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, peaceably assemble, and petition their government for redisagreement.
01:28:29.000You know, we're hearing now that a lot of that was caught because those guard troops and those officers hadn't thought about it ahead of time.
01:28:36.000They're kind of like caught flat-footed when they were told to go do these things.
01:28:40.000And so we want them to think about it in advance.
01:28:42.000And we don't think it's going to go down the same way again.
01:28:56.000It's a good sign that within the military there's still people who understand the necessary wall of separation between civil and military power and take it serious.
01:29:09.000One thing I do want to ask your listeners to do, we are going to be doing a tribute video to men who served.
01:29:17.000And so we'd like to have them send us in photos.
01:29:21.000Of those who served when they were young, all the old photos of them and their buddies, and who they were and where they served, email them to us and we'll put them in our tribute video.
01:29:33.000I want to say one last point when we get back of how the enemy's going to attack your key operation, then we've got our next guest on the line, get our next guest up.
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01:33:43.000Intimidation of police and military that speak out.
01:33:45.000But as more and more speak out, it's kind of like in those famous, you know, historical things where we have a church full of people in the Revolutionary War, and they'll say, who stands with us?
01:33:52.000It takes about a minute, and one guy steps forward, and then two step forward, and then everybody steps forward.
01:34:01.000The enemy, and I bet if I Google this it's already out there, is going to say, don't sign up for this!
01:34:05.000It's Feds getting your name in the list and they're going to get you!
01:34:09.000You have to be, I've always said this, out in the open, resisting the New World Order, speaking out, involved.
01:34:16.000We are the majority, we have to shatter That illusion that we're not the majority and we have to get past the mind game of fear.
01:34:25.000And so I think it's a great idea whether it's anonymous, you write letters and post things, or other people should start other Oath Keeper sites, more groups, lots of people.
01:34:32.000But it's good, in my experience, just to go past the point of no return and to commit.
01:34:38.000We're only saying we'll follow our oath.
01:34:40.000I mean, that's how I got the city of Austin was saying they were going to vote against the Patriot Act.
01:35:01.000That all they were doing was reaffirming the Bill of Rights Constitution.
01:35:03.000All they were doing was saying they'd follow their oaths of office for the City Council, the police, the firemen, the workers.
01:35:11.000That they had to do it, and they did vote to overthrow it, and people that were saying they were going to vote against, voted for.
01:35:16.000Because, I mean, I poured everything into literally trying to reach in and grab them.
01:35:20.000You know, just literally brush up against their souls, and I did.
01:35:24.000You know, literally bending my will with goodness towards them.
01:35:27.000And believe me, that's what humanity's all about, folks.
01:35:29.000You've got power, you don't know you have.
01:35:31.000It's a survival mechanism with the truth to literally be able to reach out to people.
01:35:35.000When you're telling the truth, it's unstoppable.
01:35:37.000The Globalists are going to pull a lot of other tricks, but I wanted to, just in closing, Stewart Rhodes, get your take on that enemy attack angle, and has that already happened?
01:35:46.000Well, not yet, and here's what we're going to do.
01:35:47.000We're going to do the same thing that Congressman Paul did with his campaign.
01:35:50.000We're going to let the few... We've already got an officer in Houston who's volunteered to run our Facebook operation, and we encourage folks to start up meet-up groups.
01:35:59.000I mean, the website... We'd like people to send their testimonials to the website so everyone can go there and read the testimonials, and we don't screen anything.
01:36:06.000We post them, they send them, we post them.
01:36:09.000And by decentralizing with meetups, it turns the engine loose.
01:36:16.000We're no intelligence unit, no group in the government could track or trace or stop what we're doing or try dirty tricks on anybody because there's too many of us and agents that are assigned to try to infiltrate or cause problems will convert over to our side, I'd say 80% of the time.
01:36:33.000We do encourage active duty to stay anonymous, unless their short timers are going to be getting out soon, or, you know, a few people standing up and making a convicted statement is fine, but for the most part, we do think it's probably wise for most of them just to send an anonymous statement.
01:37:34.000Okay, let's go to our next guest, lecturer and college instructor, Jeffrey Grubb.
01:37:39.000He wrote the book, Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World Order, and they do use a corporate Model our finance oligarchs to control things.
01:38:14.000I just want to say I'm a big admirer, a big fan of yours.
01:38:16.000What you're doing just gives me a lot of inspiration.
01:38:19.000We live in a nation full of men, young men especially, who are confused being raised by these fake churches and TV and public schools and they get to be 20, 30 years old, don't know what they're doing, don't know who they are.
01:38:31.000I think what you're doing is helping them learn how to be men by the entire nation, I would say.
01:38:37.000Yeah, we've never been given our true identity and people are unhappy until they find what the identity is.
01:38:49.000Okay, I think one of the reasons that you wanted me to come on was I just recently got fired from Purdue University for an incident that happened with a gun.
01:38:56.000It was actually my second incident with a gun at the university.
01:39:01.000And, well, anyway, about me, my name is Jeffrey Grubb.
01:39:03.000I am the author of a book, Corporatism, which is published by Progressive Press.
01:39:09.000And I'm 38, been an instructor in philosophy at a number of schools in northern Indiana, and I was fired from two of them.
01:39:17.000Actually, the first time I was fired was from Indiana University for talking about vaccines and the New World Order and 9-11 and a bioethics class, and they sure didn't like that too much and got rid of me real quick.
01:39:27.000I've got a lot of publications and I look pretty good on paper to the university, so I got another job real quick in the Purdue University system where I've been getting my PhD.
01:39:36.000It's a non-PhD teacher at a university.
01:39:42.000I was teaching at Purdue North Central up in northern Indiana, which is a branch campus of Purdue University, and I had requested to teach in the prisons because they have a little program where they teach in I teach inmates in the prisons and I've been doing it for the last 18 months or so and I was on my way to work, I think it was February 24 or so.
01:40:02.000Rushing around like crazy and I'm really busy writing books, taking care of my family, working two jobs, etc.
01:40:08.000No, you're just like Jimmy Johnson who twice has tried to take his handgun, because he gets death threats and stuff, why couldn't he, you know, onto the airplane and they scan the briefcase and there's the gun, so a similar thing happened to you.
01:40:23.000Yeah, the nation's full of these anti-Second Amendment zones.
01:40:27.000I forgot to take my gun out of my school supplies because I had it on me because I was running errands during the morning before I went up to teach at the prison.
01:40:35.000Of course, the media won't report on depleted uranium and the burning of the rainforest and all this kind of stuff.
01:40:41.000What they want to do is report on me, a professor.
01:40:51.000They say, you know, I was trying to smuggle the gun and all this crazy stuff.
01:40:54.000And it's just, it's just pretty amazing that that's what, it just shows that that's what the media is all about.
01:40:59.000The mainstream media, that's what they're going to fail.
01:41:01.000You know, the future is, is us, is this, this voice, you know, against the new old order.
01:41:05.000I think a lot of these universities are going to, you know, we're just beginning this economic crisis and it's, you know, a lot of universities when this economic crisis really gets going, you know, later this year, into next year, A lot of them are going to fail, and I think eventually with American Revolution II starting here, we're going to get new universities, or the ones that exist are going to be heavily modified, and I think our information, our voice, I think is the future there.
01:41:26.000So, I mean, I don't, you know, that I got fired from my job, really I don't care.
01:41:29.000I've been teaching for eight years, you know, all summer, a lot of classes.
01:41:32.000I'm anxious to take some time off, and plus, I don't really know where I fit in these schools anymore.
01:41:36.000I mean, these universities, they're not teaching empirical information.
01:41:40.000I mean, it's hard for people to understand this if you're not really in the university system paying attention to what's going on, but they're not, you know, you don't get into a class and sit there and tell your students, okay, I got this scientific article from this top journal and this scientific article from this article from this top journal.
01:41:53.000We're going to just debate these and we're going to get to the bottom of things and we're going to be empirical researchers.
01:41:59.000Well, they teach you the German 200-year-old model of not learning how to think and learning how magical the world is and how things connect.
01:42:06.000It's all just by rote, regurgitating information.
01:43:19.000It didn't matter what class, art class, it'd be New World Order.
01:43:22.000I mean, just everywhere, it's brainwashing.
01:43:25.000Yeah, people don't pick up on this because they do it in a hidden way.
01:43:28.000Some classes won't talk about eugenics, so what they'll do is talk about global warming.
01:43:31.000It'll act like everybody's in agreement and you get the two students in the back who are questioning it and then all the rest of the students gang up against them.
01:43:39.000People don't know I mean, brainwashing in the universities is really serious.
01:43:51.000It all comes out of Germany and England.
01:43:53.000And before education wasn't like this... I mean, everything you're saying is true, just because I've researched it myself.
01:43:58.000That's what's great about talking to somebody else who's researched this with your perspective.
01:44:02.000We're going to come back, get more into your book, and I'm going to try to shut up and get into your The Corporatism Secret, Government of the New World Order.
01:44:07.000It's published by Webster Tarpley's publisher, I thought I would add, so to give you an idea of the caliber of the material, and Progressive Press, so we really appreciate having you on the show with us.
01:44:17.000We're going to come right back to you after this break, but...
01:44:20.000Yeah, I mean, you pay after 12 years of your children being brainwashed at government schools to send them to another re-education camp.
01:44:28.000And folks, when I say re-education camp, they are re-education camps.
01:44:31.000I mean, re-education, Soviet Nazi system, that is what goes on at most universities.
01:44:37.000You got some good professors and teachers who aren't like that, but overall, it is a brainwashing mess.
01:44:43.000I mean, they tried to recruit my dad into eugenics when he went to UT in the 60s.
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01:46:46.000In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.
01:46:55.000We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.
01:47:01.000The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
01:47:09.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:47:12.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
01:49:19.000Since the prehistoric ages, and the days of ancient Greece, walked down to the Middle Ages, planet Earth kept going through changes, and then the Renaissance came, the times continue to change.
01:49:31.000All right, let's go back to our guest, Jeffrey Grubb.
01:50:42.000It's really hard to find any really good information.
01:50:46.000Um, but the book is, uh, I think, there's only one problem, I think, with it, you know, like you said the other day about the Obama deception, you, you know, after you finish something, you find out things you wish you added later.
01:50:55.000There's a couple things I wish I added later, but the book basically, to sum it up, is about how the secret government works.
01:51:01.000The secret government is basically invisible.
01:51:04.000I mean, people like Rockefeller and stuff, um, are getting close to the core of it, but, uh, you know, the people we see on TV, what I call the visible government, We're showing these people on TV, you know, Obama.
01:51:15.000You remember the election was happening and we were basically told who to vote for.
01:51:18.000The public didn't even know who Ron Paul was until late in the game.
01:51:20.000Yeah, they spent billions manufacturing this guy.
01:51:49.000Yeah, Obama's specifically doing the neocon agenda where you say one thing, and you purposely say exactly the opposite of what you're implementing.
01:51:58.000So he'll say, I'm against AIG and the banks, and go on the TV and scold them and stuff.
01:52:02.000But then, you know, he's, like you say, you show in the Obama deception, he's the guy behind the whole thing as far as the puppet government goes.
01:52:09.000But then behind the puppet government, the book discusses, there's the New World Order, which is basically corporate.
01:52:14.000And it's basically a satanic government.
01:52:17.000It's largely invisible, and it's bent on setting up a world of concentration camps.
01:52:45.000Actually, Alex, I used to be an atheist.
01:52:47.000I even published an academic article in a top philosophy journal called Sophia.
01:52:52.000I'm trying to prove that God didn't exist.
01:52:54.000Way back deep into the 90s, I was so angry with my upbringing and the horrible church that I was raised in.
01:53:00.000I just became this fiery, bitter atheist.
01:53:02.000I read a book in the last few years called Beginning Sacred Design by Bonnie Gaunt.
01:53:07.000Pretty much, I can't believe that nobody's talking about this information in the churches or on TV.
01:53:12.000Well, that's why a lot of top scientists who have been atheists, when they finally look at DNA under electron microscopes and the layers and how there's, you know, in there, they're like, my God, this is designed.
01:53:23.000I mean, this didn't come out of a cabbage patch.
01:53:28.000When you look at the numbers of the solar system, the diameter of the sun, moon, earth, the ratios of all these diameters.
01:53:34.000Where we had to be in the galaxy, it's all perfect.
01:53:39.000Take Newgrange up in Ireland, that ancient temple, about 2000 BC, it's estimated to have been created.
01:53:46.000The sun, I think it's the winter solstice, there's one beam of light that channels down the central column of the middle of the temple because these people knew so much about the sun back then.
01:53:57.000So they designed it so right at the winter solstice, the sun, you know, just at that one day, you'd have a beam of light that went down because the temple was oriented to the sky.
01:54:05.000Now, the thing that happens is at night, the full moon does the exact same thing.
01:54:10.000That tells you that the sun and the moon at those specifically, those very precise states are traveling exactly the same trajectory through the sky without any deviation.
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01:56:11.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
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01:58:42.000Corporatism, the secret government of the New World Order, but he'll be on hold a few minutes.
01:58:45.000I want to bring Ted Anderson up right now because Every time gold goes down, and the graph goes like this, you know.
01:58:53.000It's the last five years going up, but every time it dips, Ted buys it when it's low, and then he doesn't raise the price to the current rate.
01:59:37.000It wasn't widely adopted until the 50s, though they passed it in 1913.
01:59:41.000So, I mean, this is insane, the stuff.
01:59:43.000I mean, here's London Telegraph, where they're talking about yesterday, issuing their own global super currency, and then another article said, oh, they're already doing it.
01:59:56.000Out of the gates, we always run out of time, give folks the group of coins you're offering today at the insane price of Would you buy this when it was down by $70?
02:00:04.000Yeah, Alex, right when the market dipped there, I took advantage of those low prices and now we have gold trading around $9.60, which is up again today.
02:00:15.000That news that the Fed's going in there buying U.S.
02:00:18.000Treasuries is just driving gold up through the roof.
02:00:20.000That means the private bankers are selling themselves Treasuries taxpayer-backed.
02:00:26.000The foreigners aren't buying enough of it to keep us afloat and they're moving away fast.
02:00:31.000If folks don't know what that means, why don't you tell them, Ted?
02:00:33.000Well, it just means that we're going to see inflation.
02:00:35.000I mean, you think you've had an assault on your stocks and bonds and your 401k plans and your IRAs now.
02:00:41.000Just wait until inflation starts coming.
02:00:44.000Everybody knows now that we're looking at some huge inflation in the future here.
02:00:48.000They just said yesterday, record inflation.
02:00:51.000Record inflation in the last 20 years just came in.
02:00:54.000Yeah, that's what everybody's pointing at right now because when the Federal Reserve System buys U.S.
02:00:58.000government treasuries, it means they're printing money.
02:01:11.000When there's inflation, commodities, especially those that have true value as currency, gold and silver, historically only go up.
02:01:19.000It's the most active time in trading for gold and silver that you can ever hope for.
02:01:22.000I mean, back in 1980, gold went from $40 an ounce to $800 an ounce in about six years.
02:01:30.000And now we're starting at a level of about $300, and if the same movement comes along, we're going to be looking at $4,000, $5,000, maybe even $6,000 gold.
02:01:38.000And this is the answers that our government and the Federal Reserve System has for us.
02:04:41.000The globalists can manipulate things, but they can't do it for long.
02:04:44.000And historically, there is not a better investment than gold and silver.
02:04:48.000You are insane if you don't convert a lot of your liquid cash or stocks and bonds into gold and silver.
02:04:53.000I can't say it better than that, Alex.
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02:05:05.000The only excuse is, is that you're out of paper currency.
02:05:56.000They're threatening to sue Missouri if they don't retract all that slander and that MIAC report.
02:06:02.000I know, I listen to that part of your show and I tell you what, it makes my blood pressure go up because I'm going to be down there in Missouri with Ron Paul next Friday and Saturday and Sunday and I got to tell you, There isn't a better statesman out there.
02:06:14.000I can't believe that anybody would stand and let something like this happen.
02:06:18.000Well, it's because they're getting desperate.
02:06:27.000Jeffrey, please continue with your research of how the real government, the shadow government, works in your book, Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World.
02:06:34.000Order available from ProgressivePress.com.
02:06:53.000Okay, this is specifically in reference to, you know, Obama saying, you know, all these government people saying, you know, you can own a gun, but we just want to restrict it, blah, blah, blah.
02:07:02.000You know, they want to put, they want to take control over and certify, you know, it's like a certification, you know.
02:07:08.000When you have a certification over something, like organic food or whatever, the government can come in and control it, basically.
02:07:33.000What that means is, if it's best for us to defend our property and pursuit of happiness with an AR-15, which of course uses .223 most of the time, then that's specifically what we should use, according to this key founding father.
02:07:48.000So when somebody like Obama says, oh no, we want to restrict something like .223 ammo, they're breaking the law.
02:07:54.000The people should act accordingly to what they're doing.
02:08:37.000This is different than the story of trying to, you know, forgetting to take my gun out of my stuff when I entered the prison that I was teaching at.
02:08:48.000And, you know, these ethics classes in college, you know, it's just a lot of fluff.
02:08:51.000You can get the concepts over pretty easy, so you've got to fill it in with interesting concepts in the meantime.
02:08:54.000So, of course, I'm bringing up the Second Amendment all the time.
02:08:57.000But a couple days into the class, we were talking about evolution before that, and I was talking about how it's just a theory, and, you know, really, a lot of the research they say out there that it proves evolution is just a joke.
02:09:08.000You know, these four-million-year-old bones, how do we know those are connected to our lineage?
02:09:11.000And, you know, they say that there's all this evidence in the junk DNA of the retroviruses To show that we've got the exact same pattern.
02:09:22.000The way the phony churches have made the debate, I think is unscientific too and not in the Bible.
02:09:28.000Claiming things are however many years old.
02:09:31.000Clearly, I believe we have an old earth.
02:09:33.000The Bible talks about creations before that.
02:09:35.000Regardless of that, they try to set all religion or spirituality against science when the science is showing that there is a master builder.
02:10:18.000This gradual evolution that Darwin put forth doesn't really exist in the fossil record.
02:10:21.000That's actually pretty mainstream among biologists and stuff these days.
02:10:24.000But anyways, I was trying to, I was discussing that with students, and I was trying to, you know, be empirical as I possibly could, bringing up both sides of the story and saying, you know, I don't really know, and just the evidence for us coming from chimps is not there.
02:10:34.000So I had a couple of students just absolutely, I mean, I could just feel their anger from the front of the room.
02:10:41.000They were just... You were committing heresy against the eugenicist religion.
02:10:46.000I was basically making it look like humans were not stupid animals, but were actually powerful spiritual creatures by doing that, which goes against that whole eugenics program.
02:10:55.000So then the next class, to fill in time, we brought up some controversial issues to illustrate the concepts and philosophical ethics, and those were the Second Amendment, of course.
02:11:03.000I'm always itching to bring up the Second Amendment.
02:11:05.000It's my favorite thing in the world, besides reading it, is guns.
02:11:08.000I mean, just the freedom that carrying a gun gives you, as Thomas Jefferson said, it's just second to none, that feeling.
02:11:18.000I had this incredible handout for the students.
02:11:21.000It's called A Lesson in the Second Amendment.
02:11:21.000I've got it right in front of me here.
02:11:23.000Just incredibly well documented, you know, about 100 footnotes and the thing and so forth.
02:11:28.000And we were just going through it and all of a sudden, okay, that lasted about, you know, 40 minutes and then we moved on to the next topic in the class.
02:11:34.000And then all of a sudden there's a bunch of police outside.
02:11:37.000the classroom door and I'm like okay that's strange but I just kept teaching and all of a sudden a guy in plainclones motion for me to come out of the room and I get out there and there's always you know cops out in the hallway they said we got a phone call that you're carrying a gun in your pocket which of course I wasn't because I've been too afraid to of course carry a It's a felony.
02:12:00.000Well, it turns out, it turns out I found out from other students that that student, Brad, one of the students that was so angry at me for just simply questioning and using empirical evidence to question the theory of monkeys turning into humans, Through Evolution, one of them called their mother, texted their mother, and said I had a gun in my pocket.
02:12:20.000So it was basically a student did that because they were just so angry.
02:12:23.000Well, that's what these fake intellectuals do is they try to shut down free speech by false reports, whatever they can, because it just... I mean, if your information is so powerful and so true, you should want to defend it.
02:12:36.000It's kind of like, you know, tens of thousands of people they've grabbed over the years and say they can't have court trials with the Enemy Combatants Act and the Military Commissions Act.
02:12:45.000I mean, if these are really terrorists and we've got proof, let's see it!
02:12:49.000They always want to do everything they do in secret.
02:12:51.000And they don't want to allow any debate.
02:12:54.000Well, the whole war on terror and Al-Qaeda and everything...
02:12:58.000If people look close, there's no evidence for anything.
02:13:01.000I mean, if I see a videotape on TV of Osama Bin Laden, that's, strictly speaking, in the scientific sense, not evidence.
02:13:42.000Oh, yeah, we were talking about, yeah, that nothing in the War on Terror is verifiable.
02:13:46.000See, but Americans are trained to just believe whatever they want.
02:13:49.000Just go look for evidence that the real, if you really want to get real information about the world, that it's not about the spiritual domain, but about the world.
02:13:58.000But people don't know to do that, so then they can put on TV all this stuff about how, you know, there's this boogeyman here and this boogeyman there.
02:14:03.000Nobody asks for the verification, for the evidence.
02:14:06.000And then you get this whole apparatus of society, basically everybody telling each other the lie that's out of Orwell.
02:14:12.000You know, everybody tells each other the lie and nobody knows the truth.
02:14:15.000So you see it on TV, and then you go to work and talk about what was on TV, and you talk about it at church, and you talk about it at... It's a feedback loop.
02:14:21.000Yeah, and it's just always lie, lie, lie, lie, and then when somebody comes along and says, oh, hey...
02:14:52.000When I started listening to you, I got out of stocks, I dumped my house, got into gold.
02:14:56.000All the stuff you were saying, and I've even made members of my family tremendous amounts of money, but they'll still say, oh, you were just lucky, or it was just a coincidence.
02:15:03.000I'm like, 20 coincidences, or just getting lucky?
02:15:07.000Well, that's what they say about all the predictions we make, or what the guests said about oil prices, that for the next year, at least, they were going to drop down to below 50.
02:15:20.000Oh, Alex, you guessed they were going to announce a new Bank of the World where we'd pay our carbon taxes.
02:15:25.000Yeah, it's all over the news now, but you guessed that five years ago.
02:15:30.000Yeah, that's exactly what people are just saying to me, too.
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02:17:09.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
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02:19:17.000Nobody seemed to know where John called home.
02:19:22.000He just drifted into town and stayed all alone.
02:19:25.000Didn't say much, kinda quiet and shy, but he spoke it all, he just said hi to Big John.
02:19:31.000Alright, final five minutes we've got here with the author of Corporatism, The Secret Government of the New World Order, published by the great folks at ProgressivePress.com, put out Webster Tarpley's books that we carry at InfoWars.com.
02:19:43.000Don't forget, it's out on DVD, shipping out now, The Obama Deception.
02:19:57.000By the way, in the retransmission starting in about four minutes, Dr. Chuck Baldwin came on about the MIAC report and big breaking news concerning Ron Paul and Bob Barr considering litigation against the state police for this and those that wrote it, and that'll be the ADL and Southern Poverty Law Center.
02:20:12.000Commander David K. Rabin, the head of the American Legion, about Obama wanting to basically cut health care, make troops pay for their own health care.
02:20:20.000Stuart Rhodes of Oath Keepers, amazing interview, and of course, Jeff Grubb.
02:20:24.000Full circle now here, ladies and gentlemen.
02:20:26.000Retransmission starts in a few minutes at InfoWars.com.
02:20:29.000Okay, you've got about three and a half, four minutes left, sir.
02:20:31.000You've got the final word on any other issues you'd like to cover.
02:20:35.000Okay, that's great, because I've got something big I want to say.
02:20:37.000I've been wanting to crawl into your show for a couple of months to say this.
02:20:41.000I think you're out of this, Alex, and probably a lot of listeners are too.
02:20:44.000I would just want to say that I think that it's beyond a shadow of a doubt to me that the New World Order is now using our movement to carry out their agenda.
02:20:51.000I don't, when I, you know, like I heard Chuck Baldwin in Hour One talking about Rush Limbaugh, he was talking about the Missouri issues and stuff, and all of a sudden Glenn Beckett, our friend, and having Ron Paul all the time.
02:21:01.000I mean, I don't, these people have been the most unwavering traitors, all acting in unison, for what decades and now all of a sudden they're disclosing all this information i don't buy it for one second there's a lot of other reasons why i don't buy it either there i think that what the new world order is doing this stuff's getting too big you're getting too big everybody's waking up so what they're going to do is basically use the movement to carry out their ends you know i mean They're going to try to co-op to get people's confidence, but be specific.
02:21:49.000I mean, they're going to put in their own guys for this revolution, and they're going to have their other guys waiting on the other side after they destroy the old world to set up their new world that they want.
02:22:11.000I mean they're stepping it up unbelievably.
02:22:14.000It just has to be the case they're trying to make everybody go crazy.
02:22:17.000And if they're doing that, then it's part of their agenda.
02:22:19.000But the ring, as our earlier guest said that they're after, is they want to cause the rebellion, have it be violent, have the military and police against the people.
02:22:29.000That's going to backfire, and they are not invincible and can be defeated.
02:22:32.000But I agree, they're positioning selves in case they lose, to pose as the patriots, to then take it over.
02:22:39.000But we will expose that, and we are exposing that.
02:22:42.000Yeah, it should be easy to figure those people out, you know, because like you say, Dutch people are their fruit.
02:22:48.000But that's what I think is really going on.
02:22:50.000I just don't buy it that all of a sudden Glenn Beck just doesn't about it.
02:22:52.000I mean, he was calling us terrorists a year ago, and now all of a sudden he's having Ron Paul on his show.
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