Alex Jones is live from Austin, Texas and joins us to talk about the latest government cover-up. Dr. Chuck Baldwin, a Constitutional Party Presidential Candidate in 2008, was listed as a terrorist leader in a document put out by the federal government. Also, we have Commander David K. Robin of the American Legion join us to protest Obama's plan to make all veterans pay for their own health care. We have a group of police and military saying they will keep their oaths to not violate the Bill of Rights and Constitution under criminal orders from either the commander-in-chief or their direct commanders in the military and police departments. We also have Author Jeff Grubb, Author of Corporatism, The Secret Government of the New World Order, joining us.
00:00:33.000Thank you so much for joining us today.
00:00:37.000This Thursday, the 19th of March 2009, we're going to be live here for the next four hours.
00:00:45.000We have Dr. Chuck Baldwin, Constitutional Party presidential candidate 2008, who was basically listed as a terrorist leader by the state police.
00:00:55.000Propaganda document put out in Missouri, written by the feds, and that's what the document does.
00:01:02.000Also, we've got Commander David K. Robin of the American Legion joining us, outraged by the fact that they're going to make all veterans pay for their own health care.
00:01:14.000Now, that's CNN, ladies and gentlemen, and they put a spin on it and say it's good.
00:01:20.000So basically, you'll have to get your own insurance when your arms and legs get blown off, or you breathe nerve gas, or you get shot.
00:01:27.000You know, more than 15,000 troops have died in Iraq.
00:01:30.000They just changed the rules seven years ago, as they were building up for the war.
00:01:36.000We've now passed the, what, six-year mark for being in Iraq, but seven years ago they changed the accounting rule, kind of like they've changed all the other federal statistics, that were always somewhat fraudulent, but now even more fraudulent, to where if you're not looking for employment anymore and you just dropped out of society, Which tens of millions have done.
00:02:08.00015,000 plus troops five years in, I haven't looked at it in a year, have died of their injuries since they left Iraq.
00:02:17.000And I mean, they can die on a jet, medical aircraft, flying them to New York City, or to D.C., or to Virginia, or to Rammstein in Germany, and it doesn't count.
00:02:31.000So, when I say 5,000 died in the Obama deception, I'm just going with what they're officially spinning and saying, not even counting the 1,000-plus dead contractors as well, so it's well above that.
00:02:45.000Continuing, we have Stuart Rhodes from Oath Keepers coming on the show.
00:02:50.000This is a group of police and military saying they're going to keep their oaths to not violate the Bill of Rights and Constitution under criminal orders from either the commander-in-chief or their direct commanders in the military and police departments, police chiefs and others.
00:03:54.000I gave a speech on the radio this morning to a crowd saying that, well, we're going to fix the illegal alien problem because we're just going to legalize them.
00:04:02.000The American people want to legalize them.
00:04:04.000They just want them to be official and legal and have papers and be in the system.
00:04:09.000And so get ready for that as well, but just off the charts report, PrisonPlanet.com, Paul Watson, House passes mandatory national service bill.
00:04:21.000The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Obama's promised civilian national security force intensify.
00:04:36.000Watson's being too timid here, like he always is.
00:04:39.000If you read the bill that passed, it says forced service, so I'm going to read it.
00:06:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement, a personality cultist, who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
00:08:39.000I mean, when they're marching down the street in massive brigades, will that intensify fears?
00:08:45.000You see, we get accused constantly of exaggerating.
00:08:48.000No, I have to call Kurt Nimmo, Paul, Steve, Aaron, constantly and say, Hey, you didn't put the fact that they added Ron Paul and bumper stickers in this MIAC report.
00:09:50.000The few women that escaped, and finally that's why he got caught, was, oh, he was so clean cut, I couldn't believe a serial killer would be clean cut.
00:10:00.000And so because all these politicians are wearing fancy suits up there and have fancy teleprompters and, you know, big curtain backdrops behind them, people get conned.
00:10:09.000It's worse than we can even describe here, ladies and gentlemen, the full spectrum of Deception and disinformation by the establishment media.
00:10:38.000The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama's promised Civilian National Security Force Intensify.
00:10:51.000I mean, why would we be wondering if he's going to do it when his Chief of Staff wrote a book about it, Obama's given a bunch of speeches, Rahm Emanuel has, it was on change.gov, we exposed it and they pulled it, saying mandatory service for middle school, high school, college, adults, seniors, I mean, we got a screenshot of it, it's right there, it's in Obama Deception!
00:12:03.000The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act.
00:12:10.000Give! What do we have, Benny Hinn is the president?
00:12:14.000The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by 321 to 105 margin, and now goes to the Senate.
00:12:26.000And the Senate's usually worse along these socialism-fascism lines, so it looks like it's gonna pass.
00:12:49.000In subsection B-6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed.
00:13:30.000And then two months later, they're saying, ah, it's going to be permanent.
00:13:33.000So don't worry, we're just looking at mandatory service.
00:13:36.000We're just seeing how we can do this in a workable fashion.
00:13:39.000Well, they've already said how they're going to do it.
00:13:40.000They've been setting it up for 20 years.
00:13:42.000It's called SecureCorps, a division of AmeriCorps.
00:13:47.000And they've got pilot programs from Illinois to Pennsylvania to Texas to California, where they turn the entire school into a government-run military academy for boys and girls.
00:13:59.000And the kids are told, you can't own guns, you can't shoot guns, your parents are bad, Second Amendment's bad.
00:14:04.000But then, oh, would you like to go to the shooting range with M16s?
00:14:08.000Oh, you can't have that, but if you're with the government, you can.
00:14:12.000And then right out of high school, they're gonna go into the brigades.
00:14:15.000You can go read the Philadelphia Daily News article from six years ago, where they laid it all out.
00:14:25.000And it said in the article, They had the high school students training with M6 teams and training with the SWAT teams and Army on how to go door-to-door and do cordon operations, locking down cities, and how to do fugitive apprehension.
00:14:49.000They've beta tested, they're getting ready to roll it out, and now you're slack-jawed, Drug-head, know-it-all, video game players, who've been playing all these violent games, who've all been primed for this, they're going to love their new authority through the government, and they're going to be running around in their uniforms, and they'll come to the dinner table at night and boss you around, and, hey mom, hey dad, I'm with the Hitler youth now.
00:15:12.000I mean, this has been done everywhere, and this is the...
00:15:15.000Mao did it, Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Lenin did it, Pol Pot did it, Fidel Castro did it, this is the most stinking Out-of-control tyranny you can get.
00:15:26.000I just want to tell all the young snot-nosed punks.
00:15:30.000Don't try running a checkpoint with me.
00:15:35.000I can't handle the scumbag bankers robbing this country, and the classical tyranny they're setting up, and the dumbass public that doesn't know that tyranny's looking down the barrel of a gun at them.
00:15:47.000I'm sorry, I'm just getting angry, folks.
00:15:50.000It's just really starting to get to me.
00:15:53.000Under section 6104 of the bill entitled Duties, it says a fair and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all abled young people could be developed.
00:16:05.000And they admit this is a military draft for a million-person domestic military, and it says in the...
00:16:48.000Please, so I can give people the actual code on that.
00:16:54.000Okay. Section 120 of the bill also discusses the youth engagement zone program and states that service learning to the public schools will just be complete drone brainwashing indoctrination camps now, re-education camps.
00:17:10.000Section 120 of the bill also discusses the youth engagement ... zone program, and states that service learning will be mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary school's service by local educational agency.
00:17:25.000They call it the new Obama Doctrine, the new Obama curricula, curriculum, and it's happening.
00:17:32.000The legislation states it's slated to cost six billion, over five years would create 175,000 new service opportunities, They're going to pay them, too.
00:17:43.000So then we'll say, well, it's not really service.
00:17:44.000You have to do it, but we're going to pay you.
00:18:29.000The legislation is slated to cost six billion over five years, it goes on.
00:18:35.000Under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the National Volunteer Program to 250,000.
00:18:40.000It will also create an additional Corps to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Future Corps, and Veterans Service Corps.
00:18:51.000So they're going to have the military.
00:18:53.000When you get out of the military, you'll be domestic military.
00:18:55.000And expands the National Civilian Community Corps.
00:18:59.000To focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation.
00:19:05.000And then he's got links to the mainstream news reporting all this.
00:19:08.000The Senate is also considering a similar piece of legislation known as the Serve America Act, which also includes language about youth engagement zones.
00:19:17.000Here's about Obama's plans to create involuntary servitude.
00:19:20.000We're first stoked in July 2008 when Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, we cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we have set.
00:19:29.000We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
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00:21:05.000I continue to hear stories about property seizures, frozen bank accounts, confiscation of stocks and bonds.
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00:22:22.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:22:25.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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00:24:14.000They will announce carbon taxes after hyping up the earth dying, everything's being destroyed, carbon dioxide's deadly poison, the polar bears are grounding, all these lies.
00:24:24.000And then they'll have the federal government proposed satellite tracker boxes in all cars, taxes on your homes, taxes on literally every product out there.
00:24:45.000We have no plans to do that at this time.
00:24:48.000Obama came out two weeks ago and said, we're going to make veterans of all wars, including the current one, get their own insurance and then pay for their own health care.
00:25:48.000It says, Obama changes course on veterans health care.
00:25:52.000President Obama has reversed course on a plan to have the private health insurance of veterans pay for health care.
00:25:58.000White House spokesman Robert Gibbs issued a statement Wednesday saying the proposal had been floated.
00:26:02.000This is WhiteHouse.gov in his briefing room page.
00:26:05.000Quote, maximize the resources available for veterans as well as keep costs down for Veterans Administration.
00:26:10.000Gibbs said that after consulting with several leaders, the president now believes the move could affect the ability of veterans and their families to have access to health care.
00:26:43.000Point is, they have a lot of quack schools over there like Mexico does.
00:26:46.000And there's a bunch of quack doctors that's come out in the news.
00:26:49.000People don't even have real medical degrees.
00:26:51.000You know, cutting off the wrong leg or leaving tools inside people.
00:26:54.000You know, Russian doctors, you name it.
00:26:57.000So, that's going on, and so they'll just make it very hard for you to get health care, and then say, you just need to have your own insurance.
00:27:06.000So, as huge opposition mounts when they introduce it, they then back off, and then they'll be right back in a month with it again.
00:27:13.000And then they'll deny they ever said it again, and then they'll come right back with it again.
00:27:17.000And then about the third or fourth time, they'll go ahead and do it.
00:27:20.000They'll just get you sick of talking about it and get you acclimated.
00:27:23.000Every time the outrage grows to a crescendo that's about to spill out and actually hurt the establishment, they back off and say, we never said that, or, well, we're not going to do that now.
00:27:33.000And they come right back with it after, see, they don't want you to organize.
00:27:38.000And so as people start organizing against this, they go, okay, we're not doing it now.
00:27:42.000Organization falls apart, they're right back.
00:27:44.000Kind of like the Associated Press a month and a half ago.
00:27:46.000Headline, Trans-Texas Corridor, part of Napa Superhighway grid, is dead.
00:27:52.000TxDOT says, and the Department of Transportation federally say, and then three paragraphs down it said, actually we're doing the entire program of seizing the roads and putting toll roads on them.
00:28:01.000We're just not going to call it Trans-Texas Corridor anymore.
00:31:21.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:31:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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00:34:47.000Great mind, Dr. Chuck Baldwin, constitutional party presidential candidate.
00:34:53.000Got massive votes for a upstart party.
00:34:57.000It's been around for years, that's what the media called it.
00:34:59.000I want to get his take on a lot of things, including Senator Dodd admits adding bonus provision to stimulus package while he was the guy bad-mouthing it and blaming it on Republicans.
00:35:10.000The point is, they're all controlled by the same people.
00:35:12.000And then, meanwhile, Dodd is now blaming Obama administration for bonus amendment.
00:35:16.000Well, yeah, because the bonus amendment mirrors the executive order.
00:35:20.000So when you see Obama going, we're going to get these people, his administration is literally run by the people that engineered the current banking system.
00:35:29.000Bush just continued it, just as guilty, but he wasn't the author of it.
00:35:33.000It's just so outrageous, the level of their lies, but it's being exposed, it's coming out.
00:35:39.000And by the way, this is what the Obama deception covers.
00:36:00.000I'm seeing Liberty, the awakening to tyranny exploding.
00:36:04.000Well, this Missouri fiasco, I think, is illustrative of what we're dealing with here.
00:36:10.000Whenever you can categorize people who vote for myself or Ron Paul or even Bob Barr as potential domestic terrorists and make that part of an official state police agency report, we are in deep doo-doo.
00:36:48.000No, you didn't make it up, but I thank you for reporting it.
00:36:52.000Now, of course, it's all over the media.
00:36:54.000Even Rush Limbaugh talked about it the other day.
00:36:56.000Uh, the Missouri State, uh, papers have been carrying it quite a bit in the last couple of days, as you can imagine.
00:37:03.000And, uh, this thing is now beginning to get a life of its own.
00:37:07.000Uh, thank you, Alex, for helping to break this story.
00:37:09.000Uh, whoever that police officer was in Missouri who first contacted you, uh, he's a real hero.
00:37:15.000I don't know who he is, but, uh, uh, he sure did, uh, a great, uh, service to his country by alerting the public as to what is going on behind the scenes in the police department there in the state of Missouri.
00:37:28.000I mean, to categorize voters of Ron Paul, supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, as potential domestic terrorists, not to mention the fact that if anyone opposes certain things, and I listed that in my column that I put out earlier this week, if someone opposes, for example, the New World Order, if they oppose the United Nations, gun control, The violation of Posse Comitato.
00:37:59.000They're part of In the Fed or the Liberty Committee or the Constitution Party.
00:38:03.000And they say, oh, these groups are bad, too.
00:38:06.000They have soup kitchens and try to work with the local police, talking about your group and others.
00:38:11.000And they say, but secretly, they've got cell groups and they're really terrorists, too.
00:38:16.000Yeah, anybody that opposes any of the above, abortion on demand, illegal immigration, etc., is a potential domestic terrorist, a potential threat to the police forces there in the state of Missouri.
00:38:27.000Can you imagine what the firestorm would be if, instead of Bob Barr, Ron Paul, and myself, had, let's say, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton been named, with the insinuation that people who support these individuals may be considered domestic terrorists.
00:38:43.000Can you imagine what the mainstream press would do with something like that?
00:38:47.000And yet this is exactly what that report says there in the state of Missouri.
00:38:51.000We have sent, the three of us, Ron, myself and Bob, have co-signed a letter to the governor and to the respective parties in Missouri demanding that they repudiate this report and apologize to the supporters of those who voted for us.
00:39:42.000As to what Limbaugh said, I really don't know exactly what he said I didn't hear.
00:39:46.000I very seldom listen to Rush Limbaugh, but I've had several people call and tell me that he did bring it up on his programmers, or maybe a caller did, and they did talk about it for a few minutes.
00:39:55.000The point is, is that it's beginning to spread around the country.
00:39:57.000Yeah, I know it was in the newspapers, yeah.
00:40:01.000The newspapers and talk radio, of course, are the ones that are breaking the story right now.
00:40:05.000You were the first one to break it, as far as I know, and again, I thank you for that.
00:40:08.000But this is incredible, and the thing about it is, law enforcement agencies often share this kind of information.
00:40:15.000uh... with each other no sir all fifty states have this i actually have been from other states uh...
00:40:22.000just state police have asked me not to publish the copies they've got because they're scared and i've gotten many similar reports i've seen a texas report on the same style letterhead a few years ago it just wasn't this egregious listing on paul yourself and others correct as far as i know this is the first report of such as this that has actually named names you know that they did this back in the nineties uh...
00:40:44.000would jennarino Uh, was there in the Clinton White House.
00:40:47.000And, uh, but they did some of the same, you know, kind of insinuations and broad brushing and so forth.
00:40:55.000But here we are now in 2009 and they've actually named Chuck Ball and myself, Bob Barr, and Ron Paul.
00:41:01.000And saying the supporters of those of us who ran Bet last year as an independent party ticket are somehow considered dangerous and a potential domestic terrorist.
00:41:12.000Yeah, well I need to get Ron Paul back on.
00:41:14.000I don't like to bug him because he's so busy, but last Wednesday when we broke this, Thursday I got calls from listeners saying, well we called Ron Paul's office, of course it wasn't Ron Paul, he hadn't heard about it yet, and they're saying it can't be real, and so I had to explain to them, send them to the site, and I said, like I'm not going to call Ron at home, I've got his home number, but I said, give this to him, We don't make stuff up.
00:41:45.000Because I got slapped around for three or four days, and folks are still saying I made this up, Chuck.
00:41:50.000It doesn't matter if the state police and state reps say they talked to the head of the state police.
00:41:54.000You know, they're still, the establishment's still trying to deny this.
00:42:00.000That's incredible, because all anyone has to do is call the toll-free number and talk to the state officials there in Missouri, and they won't deny it one bit.
00:42:43.000I mean, that's the first thing you think about.
00:42:45.000But then whenever you start to look at it closely and you realize, hey, this is real, this is not make-believe, then you can begin to do something about it.
00:42:52.000And of course, this letter that we have co-signed, Bob Barr, Ron Paul, and myself, And I'm sure by now he's on the way to the governor's office there in Missouri, in which we give him three days to come out and repudiate this document.
00:43:09.000Chuck, do you have the letter in front of you, the informed presidential candidate?
00:43:29.000Dear Governor Nixon, the three of us write you as former presidential candidates, as concerned citizens, and in the case of Ron Paul, as a sitting member of the U.S. House of Representatives, and Bob Barr, as a former member, 1995 to 2003.
00:43:43.000We bring to your attention the most disturbing document being circulated by the Missouri Information Analysis Center, MIAC, over the seal of your office and your name as Governor.
00:43:52.000We respectfully demand that the following described document be immediately removed from any and all websites associated with or maintained by the state of Missouri or any agency thereof, including the MIAC.
00:44:02.000That the said document no longer be circulated by the state of Missouri or any agency thereof or associated therewith.
00:44:07.000That the state of Missouri repudiate its references to the three of us as contained therein.
00:44:12.000The document to which we refer is identified as follows in a copy and closed therewith.
00:44:16.000And, of course, it's the MIC Strategic Report dated 220-09, and it's entitled The Modern Militia Movement.
00:44:23.000Four names appear on the mast of this document.
00:44:28.000Nixon, Governor, John M. Britt, Director, DPS, James F. Keithy, Colonel, MSHP, and Van Godsey, Director, MIAC.
00:44:38.000The aforesaid report is imprinted at the bottom of each page thereof with the following designation, unclassified, law enforcement sensitive, close quote.
00:45:04.000people opposed to gun control, those who do not favor the Federal Reserve Banks, and much more.
00:45:09.000Were the report nothing more than a nonsensical diatribe penned by some uninformed person, we would certainly not take our time writing this letter.
00:45:15.000Although we might respectfully suggest you might want to question why such nonsense is of interest to and being disseminated by an agency connected to Save Missouri.
00:45:23.000Our concern, which we believe warrants your attention over, is found at the top of page 4 of this document, after the heading Political Paraphernalia, as follows, quote, Campaign for Liberty or Libertarian Material.
00:45:46.000These members are usually supporters of former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr.
00:45:54.000If it is the intent of the state of Missouri to link these three, excuse me, to link three legitimate former candidates for the office of the President of the United States, who also happen to be a sitting member of the U.S. House, a former member of the U.S. House, and a Baptist minister, then this document clearly does so.
00:46:08.000and this is the basis for our demand that the document be removed, its distribution, and any actual implied or adoption by the State of Missouri stop.
00:46:15.000If it is not the intent of the State of Missouri to make such a link or implication by and through the appearance and distribution of this document, then we similarly demand the document be removed from any and all websites maintained by or associated with the State of Missouri or any agency connected therewith that the State issue an immediate and unequivocal repudiation of the document.
00:46:33.000In view of the fact that there are indeed real criminals present in Missouri, and many legitimate matters of public safety on which you're office, the Department of Public Safety, the Highway Patrol, and even the MIAC, should focus their attention on resources.
00:46:46.000We respectfully assert that spending any time, resources, or effort on the nonsense contained in or about this MIC strategic report constitutes an irresponsible and inappropriate use of official resources.
00:46:56.000We stand ready to discuss this matter with you at your convenience.
00:46:59.000However, the action respectfully demanded in this letter is requested within three days of your receipt of this letter.
00:47:04.000In the meantime, with kind regards, we are virtually yours, Ron Paul, member of Congress, Republican candidate for president 2008.
00:47:10.000Okay, I would just add to that that they start out with a page listing cop killers.
00:47:29.000And then they demonize the militia, connecting it to that.
00:47:32.000Then they connect violent militias, which basically don't exist and are constitutional, you know, the non-violent ones, to basically the majority of the American people.
00:47:42.000Pro-Second Amendment, pro-sovereignty, pro-border, just you name it.
00:47:48.000They basically say, people with these bumper stickers are dangerous, they may put a hole in you.
00:47:58.000And it's a guilt by association, broad-brush demonization, and it's slander and libel of the highest order, and that's why they kept it secret.
00:48:10.000And if they do not repudiate this forthwith, I feel confident that there will be legal action in suit.
00:48:18.000And I can tell you this too, that the Constitution Party and hopefully the Libertarian Party in the state of Missouri are likewise sending off similar letters With just those exact implications in mind.
00:48:31.000In other words, the letter that we wrote was representing the three of us, because we were named.
00:48:54.000Okay, so Bob Barr is the Thomas Jefferson here in this, but you guys, you and Ron Paul, Congressman Paul and yourself, Dr. Baldwin, agreed with this.
00:49:02.000Did they, in the conversations on the phone, talk about carrying out legal action themselves if this isn't repudiated?
00:49:09.000Because, you know, I'm glad you guys are doing this.
00:49:19.000and when we've got confirmed reports on video police pulling people over for ron paul bumper stickers in las vegas in places uh...
00:49:25.000so this is dangerous well absolutely i mean this you know it talk about the essence of freedom this is the essence of freedom of whenever uh...
00:49:35.000state police agencies began pulling people over for political opinions and that's exactly what but this is it if you support bob barge up all around paul that's a political opinion That's what the report is, for those that don't know, and I'm keeping it running because it's key.
00:49:51.000This is given, they say, MYAC report is for them when they pull people over.
00:50:00.000Yeah, and so when we start profiling people because of political thought, political ideology, I mean, this is what they did in Nazi Germany, what they did in Stalin's Russia, Mao's China, the whole nine yards.
00:50:13.000You know, your identification with a particular thought or particular idea means that you are a threat to the state.
00:50:22.000That is the antithesis of everything that this country was founded upon, and if we don't stand up and resist this now, it's only going to grow.
00:50:35.000Absolutely. Chuck Baldwin is our guest.
00:50:37.000I have the head of the VFW coming on at the 8 After, but we'll have Chuck with us until then.
00:50:43.000Obama saying, cut off the health care to the troops.
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00:52:23.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
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00:54:40.000Dr. Baldwin, I forgot to give you the email.
00:54:41.000It's robd as in do, robd at Infowars.com.
00:54:47.000I would love for you to send us that email right when you get off the air in about 10-15 minutes and we'll do a story on it.
00:54:52.000Very, very exciting to see you guys standing up and fighting back.
00:54:55.000But I go back to the question we ran out of time.
00:54:57.000Talking to Ron Paul, talking to Bob Barr, are they saying that they may do legal action if this is not reversed and retracted?
00:55:05.000I think I can safely say that the sense of each of us is that this is serious enough that if the state of Missouri does not respond appropriately, Uh, that we should consider legal action.
00:55:19.000I, I think that is certainly a consideration right now.
00:55:23.000Yes. That is, that is very important news right there.
00:55:27.000Good, because instead of putting up with the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL, who go after, you know, groups that are obviously bad and are constantly mixing good people in with it.
00:55:36.000I'm sick of this slander and they've lost lawsuits before, uh, over this.
00:55:41.000And, uh, now the police are putting this out secretly.
00:55:46.000It is outrageous, and it threatens the liberty of every American.
00:55:50.000I hope that your listeners understand that even though they may not have voted for myself or Bob or Ron Paul, or perhaps they don't live in Missouri, that this doesn't affect them.
00:56:00.000But the fact of the matter is, this affects every single American citizen.
00:56:04.000When police agencies can begin to profile Americans on the basis of what they believe, we are in serious trouble.
00:56:13.000We don't have freedom if we don't have the freedom to think, the freedom to speak, the freedom to express our ideas and our convictions publicly.
00:56:23.000When we don't have that freedom, without being considered an enemy of the state or a domestic terrorist, however you want to say it, we don't have the most basic fundamental freedoms in this country.
00:56:35.000And that's what's at stake for every American.
00:56:40.000I mean, this is a Soviet Union, Nazi Germany.
00:56:42.000This is classical tyranny to have the police turning into secret police with these reports, demonizing the very people that are defending the Republic.
00:56:51.000Yeah, and think about it, you know, the people that they mentioned there, you know, Bob Barr, the Libertarians, Chuck Wall in the Constitution Party, Ron Paul, the, you know, if you want to say the Constitutional Wing of the Republican Party, you know, these are the people that, for the most part, are the most adamant defenders Of the Constitution, of freedom, of the very principles that the law enforcement personnel around the country are sworn to protect.
00:57:17.000Let's remember that every law enforcement officer in the country takes an oath to the Constitution, as does every military officer, of course, every public official.
00:57:25.000So, you know, and we are the ones who are promoting the law that each of these law enforcement personnel have sworn to protect.
00:57:34.000I mean, if there's any group of people that they should appreciate, it should be the people that are trying to support and defend the Constitution that the law enforcement personnel have sworn an oath to.
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01:00:49.000We may even get him on later in the hour, because he said a few days ago he would come on any time.
01:00:54.000And I guess we just hadn't set him up yet for some reason that escapes me, because I want him on immediately.
01:01:00.000Immediately. I had a state rep on yesterday who talked to the head of the state police in Missouri, Jim Guess, representative of Missouri, and they admitted it was real, it's really going on, demonizing all these people.
01:01:12.000And I want Paul Watson, Kurt Dimma, whoever, to go ahead and Chuck says in 30 minutes he's going to send me that email.
01:01:19.000He's got to finish the interview first and send it.
01:01:23.000We're going to get that up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, but I would just go ahead and have Paul Watson do a couple paragraph blurb about, you heard them say, that he talked to Ron Paul, they are considering litigation, and Bob Barr.
01:01:35.000Bob Barr, Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, considering litigation if this isn't retracted, and they've sent a letter, the letter has been sent.
01:01:43.000Go ahead and get that article up, and then we'll post the letter in it.
01:02:12.000We can get a reprieve like Nineveh with Jonah.
01:02:16.000You know, but the phony, bought-and-paid four churches under the faith-based initiative, tens of billions a year, under federal control, are telling people, stand down to corruption, stand down to tyranny.
01:02:34.000The clergy response teams, you know, now mandatory service, passing the House, going to the Senate.
01:02:41.000It's all happening and the biggest threat we face is the pulpit prostitutes, as Pastor Butch Paul calls them, that are up there neutralizing the American people and the people of the world, telling them to stand down, that it's not your job to stand up to evil, that it's not your job to fight corruption, that it's not your job to be involved.
01:06:23.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:06:25.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, That's fascism.
01:08:13.000We have confirmed that Limbaugh did a bunch of his show on the MIAC Missouri Report demonizing conservatives and gun owners.
01:08:21.000The state police reports the feds put out demonizing conservatives.
01:08:25.000Mac did a whole hour last night on Fox on it.
01:08:28.000This story we broke last week has just gone huge.
01:08:30.000Another story that is massive comes to us from the head of the American Legion, the largest veterans association here in the United States.
01:08:49.000CNN and others reported that they were saying that they wanted to basically make the troops have their own insurance and pay for their own medical care instead of going to the VA. So joining us is Commander David K. Rabin, head of the American Legion.
01:09:08.000You're meeting with the President, and now it looks like they're backing off.
01:09:11.000Well, this issue really came to light about three weeks ago, while some testimony was being given in front of the House Veterans Affairs Committee.
01:09:20.000We didn't expect that it was that serious an issue at that point, but we did think it was serious enough that a dozen veteran service organizations got together and jointly wrote a letter to the President opposing this idea.
01:09:35.000Thinking that maybe it wouldn't go very much farther, but then we were all invited to a meeting at the White House last Monday afternoon, and that's when we discovered that this truly was a serious proposal.
01:09:47.000The administration, and at that meeting was the President himself, his Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, VA Secretary Eric Shinseki, and a representative from the Office of Management and Budget.
01:10:00.000At that meeting, they told us that they had identified $540 million that they thought could be recouped back into the VA by billing private insurance carriers for treatment of service-connected disabilities.
01:10:18.000And I want everybody to understand that the President didn't...
01:10:24.000The President never threatened to cut off treatment.
01:10:27.000This was simply a method of how that treatment would be paid for, whether by the government or by private insurance.
01:10:33.000That would certainly start a big precedent towards that, though.
01:10:37.000It would start us down a road that we didn't want to go.
01:10:41.000The organizations all felt, every one of us, that the government has a fundamental responsibility, not just to provide that treatment, but there shouldn't be any There shouldn't be any financial burden borne by the veteran or by the veteran's family for that treatment.
01:11:00.000Oh yeah, they're going to raise insurance rates on them if the insurance companies learn that insuring a veteran separately that they're going to have to pay.
01:11:12.000There are annual and lifetime caps, maximums on the benefits that are paid.
01:11:17.000One of the things we're really concerned about is once that maximum benefit cap is reached, Then the entire family loses their health insurance coverage for the rest of the year.
01:11:28.000And with the state of the military right now, many of our military people are married, many of them are parents, and the last thing we need to do is to have more young children out there uninsured.
01:11:42.000And then there's the added load of this on the entire insurance system, the type of catastrophic injuries associated with military service.
01:11:50.000As you just said, this would bankrupt the entire family's cap very quickly.
01:11:58.000When you start to talk about the state-of-the-art prosthesis, and we expect state-of-the-art prosthesis for those folks that have undergone amputations, loss of limbs, you know, those costs are very high.
01:12:10.000And then on top of those two, there's also the effect on the employability of the veteran himself and what the And the effect on the company if this disabled veteran is running his own small business.
01:12:22.000There's just way too many dangers here to take a chance on implementing this proposal.
01:12:35.000Businesses guaranteed, if they knew, I'm going to take a veteran on with a job who's going to have huge insurance costs on our whole plan, with small businesses especially, that would prejudice people against hiring veterans.
01:12:49.000We think that if a veteran walked into the business, even if he was the most qualified, that might be the deciding factor as to who gets the job.
01:12:58.000Just the potential effect on the employer's insurance costs.
01:13:19.000All of the discussion at the meeting, the primary discussion came from the President.
01:13:24.000Chief of Staff Emanuel carried part of the discussion.
01:13:27.000The VA Secretary, General Shinseki, said very little during the meeting.
01:13:32.000He was present, but there wasn't much discussion coming from the General.
01:13:38.000The thing that did surprise us, and disappointed us, frustrated those of us from the veterans organizations, the president did not wish the discussion, and he stopped the discussion a couple of times, from addressing that fundamental responsibility of the government to take care of not only to provide the treatment, but to pay for it.
01:14:02.000The discussion focused strictly on the money, on the financial aspects, and where the money was going to come from.
01:14:09.000So I'm getting from what you're saying, he didn't want to be on record, uh, seconding the fact that the military's always been promised continual health care, and when you were saying, you support that, don't you, Mr. President, he was non-committal?
01:14:25.000A couple of the folks in the meeting tried to address that issue, and that discussion came to a Came to a halt very quickly at the President's request.
01:14:34.000strictly the focus on the money aspect.
01:14:59.000There was the suggestion made that if the organizations, if the organizations did not agree with this, if we were strongly opposed, that if the organizations would make some other suggestions as to where this money could be, could be either saved or additional sources of income, that the administration was willing to listen to those.
01:15:21.000That left us a little uneasy, left me a little uneasy, because I don't see it as the responsibility of the veterans organizations to Partner with the government in making those kinds of plans.
01:15:32.000You're lobbying an organization, a fraternal organization, guardians of the veterans.
01:15:38.000And what you're saying, I don't want to put words in your mouth, is that there was an attempted co-opting going on here, a little bit of stroking to get you to, quote, help them.
01:15:47.000I mean, will Obama cut, you know, four or five smart bombs out of the budget?
01:15:53.000I think that's, I think, I think there's some I think that's an accurate assessment of what was going on.
01:15:59.000What they were asking for was strictly ideas based on veterans health care and the VA and there's a couple of them out there.
01:16:06.000The American Legion has advocated for a long time that we don't see why a Medicare eligible veteran that's going to the VA medical centers for non-service connected treatment, why Medicare should not be able to be billed and to bring some money back into the VA that way.
01:16:23.000We think there'd be new money Yeah, and that's government money to begin with, So I don't see the problem with that.
01:17:22.000That treatment for service-connected disabilities would happen in the VA medical care system, and it would be very good treatment.
01:17:31.000The President, Vice President Biden, and Mrs. Obama have all been very clear about how much they care about the military and the military's families, so he wanted us to understand that there was never any question about whether or not treatment would happen in the VA.
01:17:55.000There was some discussion of a test program, a pilot program, in maybe two states to see what the effect would be on premiums and lifetime caps and employability.
01:18:08.000But frankly, those of us in the organization, myself as commander of the American Legion, I'm not willing to take that risk.
01:18:17.000Those veterans that have service-connected disabilities, They and their families have sacrificed enough.
01:18:23.000We don't need to run a test program and run the risk that they would be sacrificing even more to find out things that we're pretty sure would be going to happen.
01:18:34.000Well, we know that's a government trick all over the world to just say it's a test to kind of kill opposition, and then they roll it out saying, oh, our tests worked great, now we're going to do it.
01:18:53.000He was saying, hey, I don't want to talk about this being a right or something, not wanting to commit to that, but then saying I won't take their health care away.
01:19:05.000How was he trying to co-opt or get you guys what it sounds like to sell out to veterans in a way to help me cut their benefits somehow or help me save this money somehow?
01:19:18.000I'm not good at reading body language.
01:19:20.000I don't dare give an interpretation there because there's a chance that I might be mistaken.
01:19:29.000But he was very clear this was about the money.
01:19:33.000Can you as organizations come up with ways to help supply this money?
01:19:38.000All right, sir, we've got a break for a quick break come back with five more minutes with you to talk about the good news from talking to the Congress and now with a new statement today by Gibbs the White House Press Secretary, they're claiming they're backing off of this for now,
01:19:55.000so we'll finish up with the head of the American Legion, Commander David K. Rabin.
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01:25:00.000The American Legion put out a very strong press release, and we've been talking about it for the two days, expressing our opposition and involving the citizens and our membership around the country.
01:25:11.000At that meeting, which only lasted about 15 minutes, the Chief of Staff received the opinions of the veterans organizations, the opposition, and made the Made the promise that he would consult with the President and be back with an answer yesterday afternoon.
01:25:29.000When that answer came back to us, it was that the President was withdrawing that proposal.
01:25:34.000We also heard that coming from Speaker of the House Pelosi and House Appropriations Chairman Chet Edwards.
01:25:44.000They both made the statement that this proposal had been withdrawn and would not be withdrawn.
01:25:49.000Involved in the budget for this coming fiscal year, which was very good news.
01:25:54.000But the issue is that they're proposing it.
01:26:00.000I mean, I know the outrage was here that we saw on the internet and the phone calls we got to the radio show.
01:26:05.000I mean, did this issue, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hot did veterans get and veteran supporters over this?
01:26:12.000Oh, I think from the people we were hearing from, I would put it up around the 8 to 9. This, you know, this really...
01:26:23.000When you tell people that have worn the uniform in the United States about this idea, you get about two-thirds of the way through the description of what's being discussed here, and the head starts to shake, no, right, just that quickly.
01:26:36.000Because they understand this fundamental responsibility.
01:26:39.000They understand the reason that those folks were injured.
01:26:45.000Uh, why they're coming home with that disability and they understand that fundamental responsibility is not to be, not to be trifled with.
01:27:02.000So that's a, that's, it, it hits very high on the radar screen when you start to talk about it with the, with the members of our organization, with the veterans around the country.
01:27:12.000And, you know, And frankly, with a large percentage of the population around this country, even those that haven't been closely involved with the military.
01:27:22.000Did this put a chink, do you think, in the Obama administration's image with veterans who are already in a lot of areas not too pleased with him?
01:27:34.000We in the American Legion have been very pleased the last couple of years about budgets.
01:27:39.000We're very happy with the With the budget request that the president has put in, all we've seen is the bottom line number there.
01:27:47.000We don't know the details, so we're looking for the details.
01:27:50.000We're anxious to see them, but we've been very pleased with the bottom line number.
01:27:54.000But yes, this could go a long way to hurt what tends to be a favorable first impression, in my mind.
01:28:04.000That was one of the things that was said by one of the other All right.
01:28:22.000Well, Commander David K. Rabin of the American Legion, probably the biggest veterans organization, not just in the U.S., but on the planet, and the website is Legion.org, Legion.org.
01:28:36.000And we appreciate you not being a lapdog.
01:28:39.000So many other groups that represent people have been kind of seduced in to all these hundreds of meetings they've been having, trying to co-opt everybody.
01:28:48.000And so we're really glad to hear that you and you're saying the other veterans groups that were with you, that none of them were rolling over to this first seduction Well, I would call it a corruption into the White House machinery, so we commend you, Commander David K. Rabin, for that.
01:29:06.000Thank you very much, and it was very good to see so many of our colleagues in the organizations feeling the same way.
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01:33:31.000So much is going on during the break, so I forgot to ask my producer a question.
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01:33:56.000I'm going to go ahead here in just a few minutes and go live at PrisonPlanet.tv and so I can play the video that has resurfaced.
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