Russ Baker joins Alex Jones to discuss his new book, Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the powerful forces that put George W. Bush in the White House, and what their influence means for America. Russ Baker is a journalist and historian who has spent the last 20 years researching the Bush Dynasty. He has written for publications ranging from the New York Times, Vanity Fair, to the Nation, to The Nation and The Village Voice, and The Huffington Post. He is a regular contributor to the Daily Beast and has been featured on C-SPAN.
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:23.000We are now simulcasting the last two hours of this four-hour weekday radio show at PrisonPlanet.tv for all the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.
00:00:31.000I want to thank you for joining us and all of your support.
00:00:34.000I had checked into this book and seen really great reviews from a lot of researchers and historians that I respect.
00:00:40.000I haven't had a chance to read it yet.
00:00:41.000It's Russ Baker, Family of Secrets, the Bush Dynasty, the powerful forces that put in the White House and what their influence means for America.
00:00:50.000And separately in my own research, you have Prescott Bush, tied him in the military-industrial complex, the main Nazi agent in the United States, with the large banking combine here.
00:01:02.000And then you have him bringing Nixon in as a senator, setting him up.
00:01:06.000And then from the information that many other historians have brought out, like Tarpley, who again is not a quote right-winger, he calls himself a progressive, the research that Nixon got out of control, and so they shot him down.
00:01:21.000Not saying Nixon's a good guy, the point is that was all a huge setup and also to weaken the presidency at that time so the national security state could fully take over the executive and that's what we really face today.
00:01:32.000So just an amazing A book, and it is, of course, Family of Secrets.
00:01:41.000Okay, we're going to break in a few minutes.
00:01:42.000This is a short segment, but tell us about yourself, your research.
00:01:45.000You told me that researching for this book kind of changed your whole political paradigm, gets in a lot of the shadow workings of things, and C-SPAN just covered it for Book TV.
00:01:53.000That'll be airing soon, or was it live?
00:02:03.000Well, I've been an investigative journalist for about 20 years.
00:02:06.000I would describe myself either as an alternative journalist working in the mainstream, or a mainstream journalist working in the alternative media.
00:02:16.000And I've worked, written for publications varying from the New York Times, Vanity Fair, Esquire, to The Nation and The Village Voice, Huffington Post, a large range of different sorts of publications.
00:02:31.000And I am a reporter and I think that there are different books on these subjects.
00:02:36.000Some people consider themselves scholars, some people consider themselves activists.
00:02:39.000I'm essentially a reporter and I just follow the facts wherever they go.
00:02:43.000I began working on this book about five years ago simply with the question, how did a guy like George W. Bush become the most powerful person in the world?
00:02:53.000I just found that to be a staggering proposition in and of itself and I just wondered if there was not more to the story than we understood there to be and so I began looking into him and this led me to Start examining his relationship to the people who backed him, his relationship to his father, and I really went down the rabbit's hole, Alex.
00:03:20.000I discovered a whole new understanding of American history of the last 50 years, and that's really what I hope we have a chance to talk about.
00:03:28.000Yeah, Woodward and Bernstein with Naval Intelligence and the Bilderberg Group controlled Washington Post.
00:03:36.000America learned how to fight back against corruption and then meanwhile the shadow government really just got even more power and expanded their control.
00:03:44.000So I want to We'll break this down after we come back from break, but continue in the time we've got left in this segment describing the book.
00:03:51.000Actually, what happened was I'd been sent over, believe it or not, by the U.S.
00:03:54.000government to the former Yugoslavia, where I was asked to train journalists there in how to question authority and keep their government honest.
00:04:07.000And while I was working there, we had the run-up to the war in Iraq, the invasion.
00:04:11.000And people began asking me, what about your own government?
00:04:13.000How much do you understand about your own government, your own president, the decisions they make there?
00:04:17.000You're teaching us to do this work here.
00:04:20.000And as I traveled around Europe, I just was staggered by the extent to which the popularity of the United States had just plummeted.
00:04:27.000And I just felt I had to get back and get trying to answer these questions.
00:04:33.000I came back in 2004 and began traveling around the country.
00:04:37.000I came to Austin here, it was one of the places I came to, and I began just assembling groups of people for drinks and just said, hey, what do you think is behind this Bush thing?
00:04:45.000Is there nothing more than a guy this seemingly untalented and this uninterested that he could just get to the top?
00:04:56.000We're gonna tell that story that you compellingly document in Family of Secrets straight ahead.
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00:06:21.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:06:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, That's fascism.
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00:09:30.000Out of that came a piece I did for The Nation magazine, which won a Deadline Club Award, basically establishing pretty conclusively that Bush had not finished, that he had gone AWOL, skipped the last two years of his military service, and that this had all been covered up.
00:09:46.000As I looked at that, I discovered that his father appeared to be involved in covering this up.
00:09:51.000Keep in mind, his father was the chairman of the Republican Party at the time that he was skipping out on his military service in Vietnam.
00:09:59.000Nobody ever asked a father, what did you know about your son's activities?
00:10:02.000And so I began to say, what is the dynamic between the father and the son?
00:10:06.000And we'd all been told that the father and the son were very, very different.
00:10:10.000The son was a real Texan, chewing tobacco, wearing cowboy boots.
00:10:15.000He was a different kind of a guy than the sort of stuffed shirt father.
00:10:19.000And what I discovered was that this rift, this purported rift between the father and son had been manufactured.
00:10:26.000That it had been manufactured for the purposes of making the son electable, because the father, as we know, was defeated in 1992.
00:10:33.000And they wanted the son to appear to be a different kind of a guy.
00:10:38.000In fact, what I discovered at Looking at the Sun was that he'd been involved in a whole bunch of companies that have never before been reported on.
00:10:45.000Just one of them is called Lucky Chance Mining.
00:10:47.000These are very, very interesting companies.
00:10:48.000Somehow these have eluded all of the biographers, all of the reporters in the Washington Post, New York Times and so on that did stories about George W. Bush.
00:10:58.000And these companies are very interesting, Alex, because they have all the hallmarks of being intelligence operations.
00:11:06.000They all have funds coming in from offshore accounts, from Saudis, money connected to Ferdinand Marcos, to the South African Apartheid regime, to the Shah of Iran.
00:11:25.000And this forced me then to start looking at his relationship with his father.
00:11:28.000Then we have George Herbert Walker Bush.
00:11:30.000So you start out an investigation of Bush, and it leads you back into the family history.
00:11:34.000I mean, where did this guy, I suppose he's never been in the CIA, the senior, and then suddenly he's director of the CIA, and then meanwhile they have ships named the Barbara, and there's... The Zapata.
00:11:56.000So what I did was I began looking at the father.
00:11:59.000And when I looked at the father, I wondered why would they make him CIA director in 1976?
00:12:03.000This is a guy who's a purported intelligence virgin, a guy who doesn't have any background in intel.
00:12:09.000They supposedly put him in because they're claiming they're cleaning up the agency Frank Church has his church committee which is investigating all kinds of abuses, assassinations, etc.
00:12:18.000Well, the answer is, Poppy Bush is the nickname for the father.
00:12:21.000I called George, the younger one, W in the book, and Poppy, the father.
00:12:26.000Those are their nicknames, easier to distinguish between them.
00:12:29.000Poppy actually turns out had a background in the CIA, not just 1976.
00:12:32.000I've got documents in the book where he's in the CIA in 1963 at the time of the Kennedy assassination, and he's in the CIA in 1953 when he starts Zapata and Zapata Offshore, and he begins traveling all over the world on business, even though he's got this tiny company with almost no justification for it.
00:12:51.000He's even putting offices in places like Medellin, Colombia.
00:13:13.000Being a congressman was essentially a cover.
00:13:15.000The man he started Zapata with, a guy named Thomas J. Devine Jr.
00:13:19.000was a career intelligence officer and he quote-unquote retired from the agency at the tender age of about 26 after they'd spent millions on him to go into the oil business with Poppy Bush.
00:13:29.000So this is the beginning and then in Family of Secrets I track this through very curious things about Poppy Bush at the time of the Kennedy assassination.
00:13:39.000He, by the way, has publicly said he cannot remember where he was.
00:13:42.000But there's a CIA document that has a George H.W.
00:13:46.000Bush in the CIA and in Texas at the time, but they say, oh, that's another Bush.
00:13:50.000Well, it wasn't another Bush, it was him.
00:13:51.000We have photos of him outside the school book depository.
00:14:00.000One of the interesting things is that there are several memos.
00:14:03.000There's one from the day after the assassination in which the FBI is giving a briefing to George Bush of the CIA.
00:14:12.000There's another document from the day of the assassination where George H.W.
00:14:17.000Bush, clearly him with his address listed in a He is calling in to say, I may know who has killed the President.
00:14:25.000And he wants to inform on a fellow, he says, I don't know much about this man.
00:14:29.000What I discover and I document in one of the four chapters of new material on the Kennedy assassination in Family of Secrets, is that the man he was ratting out, at the very moment he was ratting him out, Bush's own assistant was going to that man's house to give him an alibi.
00:16:31.000And he was immediately appointed the Ambassador to the United Nations at a very, very delicate moment in American relations with China and so forth.
00:16:38.000After that, he's made the Chairman of the Republican Party at the height of Watergate.
00:16:43.000And then he sent off his envoy to China when things get too hot on Watergate.
00:16:47.000None of these things he was qualified for.
00:16:49.000He used to make jokes to friends about it.
00:16:51.000They said, why are you, what do you know about foreign relations to be at the UN?
00:16:58.000Anyway, my question was, why did Richard Nixon favor Poppy Bush?
00:17:04.000And the answer, I had to dig all the way back.
00:17:06.000And Alex, what I discovered was that in the 1940s, when Richard Nixon first became a candidate for Congress from Whittier, California, that Prescott Bush, the grandfather, was actually in Whittier.
00:17:20.000I do not believe this has ever been reported before.
00:17:23.000And they needed their representative, their man.
00:17:25.000Well, they needed their man, but there was something else going on.
00:17:27.000There was a congressman, a democrat named Jerry Voorhees.
00:17:31.000And Jerry Voorhees is the guy that Nixon beat.
00:17:33.000Now, they say that they ran Nixon against him because Jerry Voorhees was too liberal.
00:17:38.000on a bunch of issues, including labor unions and so on.
00:17:40.000But the reality is that wasn't what it was.
00:17:43.000Jerry Voorhees was the number one guy in the House of Representatives who was worried about Wall Street.
00:17:48.000And what he was worried about was this was not that long after the Great Depression, and he was afraid that if there was no regulation and oversight of both the bankers and the Wall Street people, that we could have another crisis like that.
00:18:06.000And they were very upset about Jerry Voorhees.
00:18:09.000And basically the financiers, the group that Prescott Bush was part of, wanted him out.
00:18:16.000And I found something he wrote where he said that he had heard that somebody was in his district Looking for someone to run against him.
00:18:23.000He just didn't know who it was and it seems that it was Prescott Bush because he was there buying that company in the district right at that moment.
00:18:33.000...every once in a while our connection to the network is broke, but we're back up on the backup.
00:19:41.000And what you see right from the beginning of the Nixon administration is efforts, and I document this in three chapters, all new information, efforts to remove Richard Nixon from office by these financial interests, oil interests, by these people in the intelligence community and in the military.
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00:21:22.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:21:25.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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00:24:09.000And I had to have him on the phone in the next few weeks for more than an hour.
00:24:14.000A little bit of time we have today, 40 minutes, he said he was going to do it.
00:24:18.000Race through it, because again, I've done so much research, you've done even more, and to be reading through the book while we're on break, I just see so many amazing things.
00:24:25.000Like the bottlers convention with Nixon in Dallas, when Kennedy's killed.
00:24:31.000Just all the amazing photos and documents and letters that you've got in this book.
00:24:36.000Please continue with your discovery that they were setting up Nixon all along.
00:24:41.000Sure, I mean what intrigued me, and I have to say by the way that two of the major revelations in the book, one is about the Kennedy assassination,
00:24:49.000and the involvement of the intelligence community in organizing it uh... and these curious coincidences uh... in which george h w bush keeps showing up in relation that by the way one of those other coincidences is that there was a a family friend of george h w bush by the name of george demore and shelled and he was a white russian emigre with intelligence ties he also happened to be lee harvey oswald's father figure in the year before the assassination this man practically
00:25:19.000uh... organized all aspects of lee harvey oswald's life this is not mentioned very widely at all you can find bits and pieces on him in a few other books and on the internet but i've gone i have a whole chapter on george demore and she'll his uh... his nephew was that was a roommate in prep school with poppy bush and uh... uh... so this man was so close to to uh... well there's a hard-on is it now admitted that running operation to kill kennedy I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:26:00.000People who were in the lead car of the motorcade, involved with a very secret military intelligence unit in Dallas, headed by a man who was essentially Poppy Bush's running mate in 1963.
00:26:16.000And the man who got them to run for office that year, whose family was revealed to be a CIA-funded foundation.
00:26:47.000I had always assumed that Nixon was just this sort of out-of-control president, the conventional story, that he was behind all of these things, including the Watergate burglary and certainly the cover-up What I discovered in my research, and again, were the fingerprints of Poppy Bush, who was the Republican chairman at the time, at the height of the Watergate scandal, and yet he's not mentioned.
00:27:09.000You read those books on Watergate, Poppy Bush is never mentioned.
00:27:13.000He's not mentioned in books about him and books about Nixon.
00:28:00.000And we, there's no justification for it.
00:28:02.000This book has, as, as many of the reviewers, uh, people like Roger Morris, uh, who's been on the National Security Council, Gore Vidal, they have all praised the book.
00:28:11.000They all say it's a revelation per page, stuff that even people like Roger Morris, who wrote an acclaimed book on Nixon and an acclaimed book on the Clintons, he didn't know any of this stuff.
00:28:23.000And with all that, really we should be out there with a major explosive bestseller, but we cannot get the traction.
00:28:30.000Is we are going out over the airwaves with people like you who have the guts to get the story out through the internet, through YouTube, whatever we can do.
00:28:38.000And we're really trying to have a kind of a guerrilla movement to get word out because 99.9% of people don't even know.
00:28:43.000No, I mean, I have to say, I've read the reviews of the book.
00:28:46.000I was intending to get it and read it.
00:28:47.000And I'd actually, like a few weeks ago, given something to my producer, a sheet on it, saying, let's get this, but we forget things.
00:28:53.000And just scanning through it, it's just an amazing book.
00:28:56.000And we've only got one more segment left coming up.
00:29:01.000But start getting into how they destroyed Nixon, because... Sure, sure.
00:29:04.000Well, basically what they did was, in the book I reveal a series...
00:29:10.000In the book, I reveal a series of different operations that were precursors to the Watergate break-in.
00:29:15.000And the break-in, by the way, was deliberately so ham-handed.
00:29:19.000In other words, they were doing everything they could to get caught.
00:29:21.000And that's why they had these checks and everything that were traceable back to the Republican Party and to the White House.
00:29:28.000They were trying to set up Richard Nixon, but they were doing things before the Watergate break-in.
00:29:33.000And in Family of Secrets, I document those earlier unsuccessful operations to smear Nixon.
00:29:39.000Just bizarre, but well documented, because a lot of other amazing researchers, not on this breadth or this focus on the bushes, have documented that separately, so I know it's true.
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00:31:21.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
00:31:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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00:36:08.000First of all, I studied the Nixon tapes, and what's very interesting is most of us have not studied the Nixon tapes, and we take the word of several so-called experts, I call them gatekeepers, who tell us that the tapes implicate Nixon.
00:36:21.000Well, the tapes don't implicate Nixon.
00:36:23.000If you look at the tapes carefully enough, you see that what they show is a guy who's completely befuddled, he has no idea what's going on, he doesn't know why in the world they did that burglary, he says, holy cow, it looks like somebody's trying to set me up.
00:36:35.000He does not know That's right, I've heard that.
00:37:14.000And as I say, I think I break new ground here in showing all of these people and their connections to Poppy Bush, who's sitting in the catbird seat of intelligence as the head of the Republican Party at that moment where Nixon is taken down.
00:37:27.000And they needed to get Nixon out so the family could finally, at that point, when they decapitated him politically, it would be the Bushes left in total control of the party, to then project themselves into office.
00:37:37.000And then he ran against Reagan initially, then they threatened Reagan, so he put George Herbert Walker Bush on the ticket.
00:37:43.000Clearly, you have the shooter meeting with the family the night before, all those intelligence connections, getting Reagan under their control.
00:37:50.000Well, in fact, you see that they push Agnew out and they bring in Gerald Ford, who had been on the Warren Commission and had always sort of played ball with these guys.
00:37:59.000And Gerald Ford then brings in a couple of guys you may have heard of called Cheney and Rumsfeld.
00:38:05.000Takeover plan, Rex 84, before it comes out in the 80s, in the Iran-Contra, and it's all about, we'll take over through national security, we'll do a CIA overthrow in the U.S., like we've done in the third world, but in slow motion, and now today it's actually happening, and I have the L.A.
00:38:20.000Times, every day I see multiple articles, oh the Marines are running checkpoints to stop drunks, oh the Army was out at the mass shooting, oh there's liaison officers in all the police departments.
00:38:34.000In any case, that whole segment, it fascinated me as I dug deeper and deeper, and then of course Ford comes in, as they say, and then they bring in Poppy Bush as the CIA director in 1976.
00:38:46.000I then discover a bunch of things that happened to Jimmy Carter, and I get into this in the book, and this appears to be yet another setup of a president they were not happy with.
00:38:55.000He was trying to essentially either reorganize or dismantle the CIA.
00:39:00.000They make a deal, just on record, they make a deal to have the mullahs grab the hostages, they sell them weapons, I mean, it's Iran-Contra.
00:39:08.000There's a lot of interesting stuff about the whole Iran connection, and by the way, right in this period, you see money moving, Iranian money, into companies that George W. Bush is involved with, the son.
00:39:20.000So what I do is, the first half or maybe two-thirds of the book is mostly about the father, the grandfather, and this larger apparatus of these These wealthy and powerful families that influence policy in this country that we really can't talk about, that control resource extraction in this country and around the world, which is the source of power in this world.
00:39:40.000You could say it's the entertainment business.
00:39:44.000It's always going to be, until the lights go out, it's going to be the things that keep us warm, the things that allow our vehicles to move.
00:40:13.000They make sure they have their people in surrounding every president.
00:40:17.000And they say, don't think that this thing is going away.
00:40:19.000So whatever you think of the new president, whatever you think of what he's trying to do, the reality is that he's limited in his movement.
00:40:59.000We have a non-profit website called whowhatwhy.com.
00:41:03.000We're trying to get this off the ground.
00:41:04.000We're looking for the public to support us so that we can put trained investigative journalists with serious credentials on these sorts of stories that the mainstream media will not touch.
00:41:24.000Reading literally hundreds of books, interviewing thousands of guests, trying to find the truth, not left, you know, darkly I look through, not a right-wing darkly I look through, but really trying to find the truth.
00:41:36.000It's clear Obama is totally controlled by this very same apparatus, and as much of a nice guy as he might be, it's a bunch of rhetoric.
00:41:45.000Uh, that he put out during the campaign.
00:41:47.000He's now basically doing the opposite and protecting the Bush family and protecting the President from the crimes, the lies about WMDs, the torture, the police state, all of it.
00:41:56.000Can you specifically, because you were just alluding to that, to who is in the Obama administration right now and the fact of however nice we might think Barack Obama is, and I certainly wish everything was okay, but it's not, uh, Well, I mean, I don't want to put words in your mouth.
00:42:10.000Basically, where do you stand on Barack Obama and who's in his administration now?
00:42:14.000Because it's the very same players from my research.
00:42:17.000I want to say, first of all, that I want to give him the benefit of the doubt.
00:42:20.000I think it's... I like to give every president the benefit of the doubt.
00:42:26.000I think he's a man who, as he rose, he understood the art of compromise.
00:42:31.000I think he knew how to play ball with the right people.
00:42:34.000I think he's got a mixture of people in his administration.
00:42:36.000He's got a few people who I think are very good people.
00:42:39.000He's got other people in there who I don't think are so good, and I think there's a lot of jockeying going on.
00:42:43.000There's a lot of back and forth, and the question is who's going to prevail on the Wall Street bailout, on the kinds of people he chose to run the Treasury Department, Well, Obama is not stupid.
00:43:02.000And I think that the best thing that I can do as a journalist is to hope for the best and be prepared for the worst and apply the same sort of scrutiny and vigilance that I have to the Bushes.
00:43:42.000He had those, you know, back-channel secret negotiations trying to break down the Cold War effectively.
00:43:47.000The same thing it turns out Kennedy was trying to do.
00:43:49.000And a lot of interests do not want this to happen.
00:43:51.000I mean, this country has such a huge military-industrial complex.
00:43:56.000It's so much larger, percentage-wise, than any other developed country in the world.
00:44:00.000And the amounts being spent and the fortunes being made every day on this stuff, they cannot afford to have a president who presides over global peace.
00:44:09.000And so, it is a real challenge for a guy like Obama.
00:44:13.000He may be a great guy, he may be an intelligent guy, but the reality is that the President of the United States, no President of the United States, is able to do whatever he wants.
00:44:22.000He has got to be realistic about these things, and he's hemmed in to a large extent.
00:44:36.000I bought into the propaganda that Nixon was the quintessential devil, until over a decade ago I actually researched what happened to him.
00:44:43.000He was obviously a flawed, power-hungry person, but compared to many other presidents, he was actually trying to be the president, and he tried to actually do a lot of good things, and it shows that the shadow government, the national security state, didn't like that.
00:44:58.000And so they wanted to make sure that the presidency was a kept position, And I just feel so sorry for the controlled left.
00:45:04.000It's almost like a religious sacrament bashing Nixon in the cartoons and movies and culture.
00:45:09.000And it's sad that they're just being completely conned and are missing the real power elite and the real evil.
00:45:17.000Yeah, I mean it's unfortunate that people of any ideological stripe are not open to facts, are not open to new information.
00:45:24.000And I mean, I think that The most compelling thing about Family of Secrets, I am told by people, is that I don't come in with an agenda.
00:45:32.000And I'm open to being persuaded that what I thought, what I understood, one of my friends, a journalist, when he looked at the book he said, you know what you should call this book?
00:45:42.000You should call this book, Everything You Know Is Wrong.
00:45:46.000And I was willing to accept the fact that the way that I understood the Kennedy assassination, the way I understood Watergate, the way I understood Jimmy Carter, Ford, George W. Bush, that all of these things were wrong.
00:45:58.000And I think what we've got to do is really open up a dialogue in this country where we're willing to just look at these facts.
00:46:03.000If somebody wants to come to me and point out that they're wrong, A few small errors in the book.
00:46:09.000I said somebody went to Yale and he went to Harvard, but nobody has challenged the core, most important facts, the documents that are in there.
00:46:17.000In my film, The Obama Deception, you know, we get busy and we say Richard M. Haas, head of the CFR, it's Richard M. Haas.
00:46:25.000The main facts are accurate and I've done the research and going through the book scanning and everything I see in here is spot-on from deep research that I and many others have done and so you just put it all together in one place instead of in 10 or 15 books so people will get it but In the final equation, and I cut you off earlier and I want you to finish up with this, you're saying, hey, these people aren't going away.
00:47:27.000We're America and we're the good guys and don't you say we've got a corrupt oligarchy or a shadow government or an elite.
00:47:33.000Now they're openly out in the open setting up a classic tyranny.
00:47:37.000They've always had the velvet glove on and kind of allowed the common masses to have basic freedoms but now they are eroding and getting rid of that I think because of the internet culture They know that they've lost their illusion that America's perfect and only good guys are running it.
00:47:53.000And so I think we see a massive struggle now coming to a head.
00:47:56.000And I'm very optimistic that thanks to books like Family of Secrets and films and things that are out there, that we are starting to turn the corner.
00:48:05.000I think that's why we see this thrashing by the establishment, threatening everybody in an attempt to create a chilling effect.
00:48:11.000We had in the private fellow reserve rallies all over the country and we got the army document called the army they confirmed it they had the army anti-terrorism squad watching us at all 38 locations including Ron Paul in Houston and I mean that is third world that is Nazi Germany that is Russia and that's happened to peace groups for a long time but now it's much wider and there's secret police all over the place we can't let that show us we've got to have the courage I agree, and I think that there are some exciting opportunities.
00:48:41.000The internet, all of these things, podcasts and so on, the fact that I can come on here and talk about Family of Secrets, I think all of these things, I think the equation is shifting, and I think people that have traditionally held control, certainly the Bushes, And I go into this to some extent in the book, that the Bushes go way back.
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00:52:14.000The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
00:52:23.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
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00:55:21.000Well, my friend alerted me to this originally.
00:55:24.000And, you know, he said, what do you make of this?
00:55:27.000And I told him right away, you know, I'm familiar with the FEMA coffins.
00:55:32.000Also, some concrete caskets in a cemetery in L.A.
00:55:38.000and basically we went over and investigated it, took some pictures.
00:55:44.000One of my friends ended up interviewing a truck driver that was part of the operation and basically gathered from the truck driver.
00:55:53.000After about 10 minutes of the truck driver kind of beating around the bush, he basically said, you know, look, these are four U.S.
00:56:01.000military and four caskets fit in each one of these burial vaults.
00:56:12.000Basically went on to say he got paid an awful lot of money to do his job.
00:56:20.000Sounds like a little bit of a bribe to me.
00:56:23.000I just want to explain to people, then we're going to pick your brain on this.
00:56:27.000Explain to folks, this is the way regular military cemeteries work.
00:56:32.000It's one coffin, one crypt, and then there's space around the graves.
00:56:37.000They're going in, digging in ten feet, as you said.
00:56:40.000We have the photos of this, putting in all of these crypts right up against each other.
00:56:45.000I guess this wouldn't be properly Mark Graves.
00:56:47.000This is not the way it's ever been done.
00:56:49.000And they're doing it at night, which is very, very secretive.
00:56:52.000And then it dovetails in with the FEMA plastic coffins all over the country, Georgia and other areas, confirmed from the company that sold it to FEMA.
00:57:00.000Centers for Disease Control massing these.
00:57:02.000I mean, this is like 28 days later or something.
00:57:21.000I mean, semi-trucks literally every morning, uh, you know, they start during, uh, it's still dark, you know, they start real early.
00:57:29.000Then they start lining up, uh, literally bringing these things in and just unloading them all day long, uh, stacking them in tightly together.
00:57:39.000Uh, the interesting observation I made was, uh, they actually went ahead and laid down, uh, what's called ABC or, or some kind of, uh, rock that, you know, probably one to two inches in diameter, uh, on the whole base of this thing.
00:57:57.000And now I've done a little bit of research about mass graze in Germany and whatnot.
00:58:01.000And I thought this could be, uh, you know, aid with the D decomposition process, but Basically is what I'm thinking is that some kind of drainage system or bedding that was installed.
00:58:15.000Now stay there and I wasn't criticizing you for getting into the project late.
00:59:09.000No one is going to take care of your family in the final equation but you.
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01:00:35.000And they're then setting them right next to each other.
01:00:41.000And these are crypts that can hold four coffins, or if you don't put people in coffins, it can hold even more than that.
01:00:45.000And our guest has done the math on this, Shepard Ambaless.
01:00:51.000And Shepard, we're going to go to you in just a moment, but I wanted to go to Jason Douglas, who does graphics, video editing, and producing for the Jason Burma Show and this show, along with Rob Due, doing a great job.
01:01:01.000You finally got a hold of the director of the National Memorial Cemetery there in Phoenix.
01:01:08.000Uh, well, he basically just said that this is completely commonplace, that they dig these graves ahead of time, they only get two days' notice once they know who's going to be interred.
01:01:17.000But I asked him if he could comment on who was actually going to be put into those graves, or if he knew anything about the content of the graves.
01:01:52.000Yeah, we've also had reports in Abilene, Texas.
01:01:55.000We're asking people to write in online.
01:01:58.000I've posted some videos and shown the pictures online.
01:02:02.000People are making comments, so hopefully we'll get some more reports of other mass graves.
01:02:07.000Yeah, because if we find more and confirm it, and it goes into the tens of thousands, going back to Shepard.
01:02:12.000Shepard, you did some math here, and you talked to some of the construction workers there, some of the excavators, about how many people can fit in just the graves that you saw, just the crypts that you saw.
01:02:24.000Well, like you said, we know that according to what the official reports are, which are obviously a little bit skewed, but they're reporting, you know, like 4,500 troops of Died in Iraq and whatnot.
01:02:38.000It's highly suspect that you got grazed enough here for 4,000 people just in Arizona.
01:02:49.000If caskets weren't used in these graves, you could probably fit 30 to 40 bodies in each one.
01:02:55.000So if you run the math times that by at least 1,000 that I know are there, you have anywhere from 4,000 bodies to possibly 40,000 bodies just in this one location.
01:03:07.000And then what are the millions of FEMA coffins all over the country?
01:03:11.000A couple hundred thousand just in Georgia alone at one site.
01:03:14.000And then we go up, there's the name of the company, you call them, it is a plastic casket, and they're just staging them for the CDC.
01:04:00.000It's six, seven years ago, so it's hard to find.
01:04:03.000Headline, Rocky Mountain News, Governor discusses, or Governor says, mass incinerators and graves ready for 15,000 a day, I think is the headline.
01:04:17.000Yeah, and you know, like I said, this is just kind of suspect.
01:04:20.000I have a feeling it's going on all around the country.
01:04:23.000You know, this is where we need to call for the listeners to really do some investigative research and let's see where these things are turning up.
01:04:31.000Because if there is a big terror attack or something, a bird flu or a nuke, how come they were getting all these graves ready?
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01:07:58.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:08:08.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:15.000Shepard Ambaless is our guest who took the photos and wrote the story that we broke at InfoWars.com.
01:08:20.000We appreciate him giving us that information.
01:08:23.000Send any other photos of mass graves, plastic coffin liners being massed, mainstream news articles where they say they're getting ready for all of this.
01:08:37.000Continuing, Shepard, with other points that need to be made here.
01:08:40.000Well, uh, you know, uh, another thing that's noted is, you know, just the, the sheer size of the operation.
01:08:48.000There's, there's several of these sections that were visible, uh, to me over the last 30 days that I know they've already covered up multiple sections, uh, and they've already put the earth over it and it, and it looks just like nothing's there.
01:09:02.000There was about three of these sections exposed, um, You know, I would estimate that the sections are like something around like 800 or 1000 feet by 1000 feet just packed in there.
01:09:15.000The way they were excavated is just perfect cut.
01:11:52.000I didn't throw up during Bohemian Grove because it was just a play, but that's what religion comes from is the stylized ritual.
01:11:57.000I was in the crowd like a church, and the preachers are up there on stage, but the old man going, hey, around me, this was religious rapture, and it was a horrible vibe.
01:12:10.000And I know what you're talking about, just to realize, my God, there's things I didn't know about in this world.
01:12:14.000This world is a lot stranger than people know.
01:12:21.000I mean, it just really hit me hard and I decided, you know, I gotta expose this.
01:12:26.000You know, I'm working on another story, and I'll let you guys know as soon as I get more done, but this other thing is even more compelling than that, and I hope to get that to you guys as well.
01:12:42.000Oh man, now you've really picked my interest.
01:13:11.000I came up with some startling discoveries.
01:13:14.000The barbed wire fences on these post offices point inward, just like concentration camps.
01:13:20.000Well, that's what Congress has admitted, is that they'll use existing federal locations, and they'll use Walmart distribution centers as FEMA camps.
01:14:00.000County Coroner's Office, but just to learn about dead bodies.
01:14:03.000See, it's just, oh, they're just liaison officers in the police intelligence bureaus.
01:14:08.000What is it like, Jason, since you've been working here a few months?
01:14:10.000Because, I mean, you weren't too aware of the work we did here, or I guess you were somewhat, I forget, but the point is, is it now really living it where you see it every day?
01:14:18.000I mean, we're not making this up, are we?
01:14:21.000It's just crazy to see, because you hear one isolated story, maybe two isolated stories, but when you start seeing the master plan forming together, that's when things really take shape and you realize, you know, this isn't normal.
01:14:35.000And every time you talk to someone, that's all they want to play off.
01:14:56.000I mean, you know, oh yeah, you know, the Phoenix newspaper admits the police say we're ready to work with the troops against the American people.
01:15:03.000You know, that was in the Phoenix Business Journal.
01:16:10.000Okay, I apologize to Webster Tarpley for getting him on fifteen minutes late.
01:16:15.000I always appreciate him coming on the show every few weeks to break down the latest Obama activities.
01:16:22.000You know, a year ago plus when Tarpley, who I really respect as a historian and researcher, Pioneering researchers said Obama is going to totally roll out with national drafts and youth squads and a private army immediately.
01:16:36.000I was like, yeah, I know they want to do that, but it's going to be hard.
01:16:39.000And when he talked about how they were going to hype things up with Russia and move troops in, I was like, oh, come on, and it happened.
01:16:46.000You know, he said, months before 888, he said, Brzezinski and the Obama people are already in control of the Bush administration, they're going to attack Russia, and it happened.
01:16:54.000All of this, and now they've passed in the House and Senate.
01:16:58.000They've got to bring it into conference now and complete it, but it's been passing by two-thirds majorities, 300-plus to 100, 75-14 or 74-14 in the Senate.
01:17:17.000You've got to go read the bill to find this out.
01:17:20.000They're openly announcing trillions more for the bankers.
01:17:23.000A bank of the world will pay our carbon taxes to everything Tarpley, who's the main figure.
01:17:27.000You know, there's Jesse Ventura and KRS-One and Professor Griff and George Humphrey and Gerald Salente in the film, but the main voice is Webster Tarpley.
01:17:42.000It's the number one film on the web, bar none.
01:17:44.000There's a few clips of bikini girls that are getting over all more visits, five-minute things, but for films, it's number one out there.
01:17:50.000We've done reports on that and the Obama deception.
01:17:53.000So I want to get him on, now that he's seen it, to give you his review of the Obama deception, but also talk about all the issues I just covered.
01:18:01.000In fact, it's worse than what you said, which is hard to believe.
01:18:04.000Comment on what's currently happening and where you see this going in the future.
01:18:10.000Well, let me say first of all, I have to congratulate you for the Obama deception.
01:18:14.000You and your team have put together what is nothing short of a masterpiece.
01:18:18.000It's the best political documentary to come out of the United States in many years, maybe many decades.
01:18:24.000And I say that having seen quite a few of them.
01:18:29.000It is a tremendous piece of work, and I think it's just what was needed to crystallize a kind of vague unease that a lot of people have who don't really follow politics or economics.
01:18:41.000But it's a tremendous achievement, and if it's gone viral, then more power to you, and that's a big turning point, because we're, what are we, about two-thirds of the way through the 100 days.
01:18:52.000I think the key thing with Obama is to checkmate him.
01:18:58.000Don't let him get this cap-and-trade, a tax of $700 billion on production, because that's what this comes down to.
01:19:05.000Cap-and-trade means we're going to let the financiers run wild, but we're going to impose this extra burden on any kind of production, any farmer who runs a tractor, anybody who commutes to work, the whole realm of physical economy, as distinct from the crazy paper world.
01:19:20.000Yeah, this is the paper casino economy, waging war on what's left of the real economy.
01:19:27.000Right, it's Count Dracula draining your blood so that the derivatives can live and any kind of production, and therefore human life, can die.
01:19:47.000For the sake of Wall Street, is that, that's who you're gonna be, uh... Now, stay there, and we pay our carbon taxes, now admitted in hundreds of papers, to the bankers who engineered all this.
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01:21:06.000We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to secure.
01:21:13.000The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
01:21:21.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
01:21:23.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
01:22:33.000Or was Jefferson correct when he said, a central bank issuing a public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
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01:23:59.000What if I say I'm not like the others?
01:24:02.000What if I say I'm not just another one of your planes?
01:24:29.000You see, if you attack Obama, from a right-wing perspective, Rush Limbaugh stuff, that's all discredited.
01:24:40.000That actually makes his supporters support him more in the false left-right paradigm.
01:24:43.000But if you go after him as an elitist, notice he always frames himself as he's fighting Wall Street, he's fighting corruption, he's fighting special interests.
01:24:51.000He needs his 13 million goons and a 7 million army, that's now in the New York Times, to go out and intimidate Congress and the governors and the states.
01:24:59.000And we see, depending on the poll, 15 to 22 point drops now in the first two months or less of his administration exactly what Webster said was key to stopping.
01:25:09.000But then we know, and I can see this on all the cards, to get things going again, a new war or a staged terror attack so he can grandstand.
01:25:16.000And I know you're, and Tarble, you said this a year ago, we hear about austerity and how great it was.
01:25:21.000And we've got a sacrifice that went from hope and change to, I'm going to take it out of your hide for the bankers.
01:25:28.000Well, Obama met with the Washington Post editorial board on the Thursday before the inauguration.
01:25:34.000And he said, well, the slogans now are going to be sacrifice, duty, and responsibility.
01:25:39.000And that means that you, as an individual, are required to sacrifice your health care, your economic rights, to prop up 1.5 quadrillion derivatives bubble, and to keep these zombie bankers in business.
01:25:55.000I mean, you look at Wall Street, right?
01:25:57.000You've got Blank Fine of Goldman Sachs, Pandit of Citibank, Diamond of JPMorgan Chase, Lewis of Bank of America, Mack of Morgan Stanley.
01:26:07.000And they've got a very large part of the world derivatives bubble, the derivatives black hole.
01:26:14.000And if you're going to slap a $660 billion tax on production, because that's what it means, or even just a lawnmower, a car, anything that you're going to drive, your commute, that's going to go directly to these leeches.
01:26:49.000Now, a lot of people have noted this has been one of the most severe winters in the Northern Hemisphere in a long time, but these fanatics are undeterred.
01:26:56.000These are Malthusian, zero-growth, genocidal lunatics.
01:27:00.000I want to cite an advisor to Obama's mentor, Gordon Brown, the British Prime Minister.
01:27:08.000There's an advisor to the British government who says 60 billion people in the British Isles is too much.
01:27:13.000We're going to cut that in half to 30 million.
01:27:16.000Yeah, that was the Times of London two days ago and we're seeing headlines in the US and foreign press.
01:27:23.000Babies are carbon monsters and there needs to be a tax on having children.
01:27:28.000That's what the UN and others and the Malthusian Eugenicists funded China to do in 1975.
01:27:32.000First a tax, then in 1981 it became law.
01:27:36.000They are now pushing, as we cover in Endgame, the one-child policy, and on top of that, White House to hunt for new tax revenues, Wall Street Journal, and they admit they're going to get rid of, for even low income, not $250,000 with two people in the House, $125,000 and up, but everybody, they're going to take away basically all, or reduce all, of the tax write-offs.
01:28:17.000So we have a situation where $10 trillion, supported by Obama, supported by Geithner, Bernanke, and Geithner is the key link between the Bush regime and Paulson and the current one.
01:28:31.0008 trillion, 8 to 9 trillion from the Fed, 1 to 2 trillion, I'm counting, from the Treasury.
01:28:36.000So 10 trillion as a subsidy for the derivatives bubble and the zombie bankers.
01:28:41.000And by my count, the actual useful spending, which is mostly in the emergency relief area, there's some infrastructure, but not very much.
01:29:11.000Limbaugh this afternoon had a woman on his show.
01:29:13.000She said, I can't live on less than $750,000 here in New York because I've got four kids in private school and how dare you take away my money from the derivatives merchant.
01:29:24.000But this Obama loves, because the poor, poor person who's living on twenty or thirty thousand minimum wage jobs... Here's that, and it creates class in between the middle class and the working class, never realizing the elite.
01:29:36.000And Obama memos have come out that they are running against, against Rush Limbaugh.
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01:31:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
01:33:15.000We're going to go right back to him in just a moment.
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01:36:03.000All right, going back to Webster Tarpley.
01:36:07.000Webster, earlier I made the point, and I was able to make the call on 9-11, you've made a lot of other calls, just integrating the propaganda, the balance of power, how their agenda is working.
01:36:17.000He tried to get 13 million people out on the streets, he only got about 4 million, that was called a failure, that's still very dangerous because they're trying to double that number.
01:36:25.000Now they're moving, as you know, they just passed, it's going into conference now, but the House and Senate have both passed it.
01:36:53.000is slowing uh... the diversion of a hundred sixty five million a i g is a diversion but it still showed that he'd written executive order for the loopholes for all the companies tens of billions and and bonuses and that uh... the guy whose wife works by the big company for a i g senator dodd was saying he was against the the uh...
01:37:15.000Bailout money being used for bonuses when he actually wrote the clause to mirror Obama.
01:37:21.000Then they started turning against each other saying, well you told me to, well you told me to.
01:37:25.000So speak to false flag terror and the big scandals and the public's mad at 165 mil on about 10 trill and how we further get the word out and derail this guy.
01:37:38.000Yeah, maybe we can start with this ARG.
01:37:43.000If you're attacking him from the left, and that's the key.
01:37:47.000When Obama had a healthcare summit, he wanted to ban the people who were going to advocate a single-payer, basically Medicare for all, or Medicare for anybody who wants it.
01:37:58.000And he said, oh no, I can't do that, I've got to let you in.
01:38:00.000He didn't let them speak, but he let them in.
01:38:03.000Then on AIG, we had Bernanke in the Congress, at the Senate hearing, saying, I won't tell you who got the AIG money.
01:38:10.000This means the big money, the tens of billions.
01:38:13.000And then you had Cohn, K-O-H-N, this guy who's Bernanke's deputy, a couple of days later at the Dodd-Shelby Committee, and he wouldn't tell who got the money, and that then exploded, and Obama had to cave on that one.
01:38:26.000So now we find that the big money of AIG, not the $160 million, or $200 million of bonuses, bad as that is, but the $160 billion of derivatives bailout, remember this is the AIG London branch, their hedge fund, their Financial Products Division, working with derivatives, derivatives, credit default swaps, and other derivatives, collateralized debt obligations, 3 trillion of those, more than the gross national product of France and any number of other countries.
01:38:56.000And out of that money, we find that 10 or 12 billion went to Goldman Sachs, always high on the list of beneficiaries, 10 billion to Barclays Bank in Britain, 10 billion to Deutsche Bank in Berlin and Frankfurt, And 10 billion to Societe Generale of France.
01:39:12.000So, foreign bankers that we know of get 30 to 35 billion of U.S.
01:39:18.000taxpayer funds in order to bail out their derivative holdings.
01:39:21.000Now, you'd have to say, if Gordon Brown and Sarkozy and Madame Merkel are so concerned about these banks in their countries, why don't they bail them out and let the U.S.
01:40:08.000The second trillion announced earlier this week by Geithner.
01:40:12.000So zombie ideas, cash for trash, and it's all the same stuff from Paulson, recycled now for the third time, says Krugman.
01:40:21.000Galbraith, at the University of Texas, he says this is a massively corrupted banking system, and he basically says seize the zombie banks and put them out of existence, and he says Increase Social Security pensions by one third.
01:40:35.000Now that's a step in the right direction.
01:40:37.000I would say double Social Security pensions, because you're not going to have a 401k, and you're not going to have anything else.
01:40:44.000And by the way, the 10 trillion bucks, and Bloomberg's reported this, would pay off 90% of the mortgages, massively increase Social Security because of inflation.
01:40:56.000So we always hear on the fake right-wing radio, oh it's all about welfare, that's where all the money goes.
01:41:02.000Everything is going to the offshore New World Order banks.
01:41:06.000Who literally, as you said, are sucking the entire world dry and trying to put carbon taxes on industry to further enslave them, pay directly to the bankers.
01:41:17.000I mean, this is such an outrageous plan.
01:41:19.000How will they get away with it as it's already stalling without staging terror attacks?
01:41:40.000I don't know whether this has gone off yet or not, but they say it's for a film, but people driving along, you know, the George Washington Parkway on one side of the Whitehurst Freeway on the other here in D.C., they're going to see a 30-foot fireball in the middle of the Potomac.
01:41:54.000It's supposed to be some ships, some small boats, and one of them blows up as part of a movie, I think, for CBS.
01:42:02.000Yes, that's very, very much in the air.
01:42:04.000Anyway, these left liberals, Krugman, Galbraith, Grider, Grider of Rolling Stone, typical left liberal.
01:42:20.000Well, what they're trying to do, of course, many of these people, Grider I think is a good example, he's trying to have a fake opposition that will be controlled so there won't be a real opposition.
01:42:29.000You can also look at Madame Stassonopoulos Huffington, right?
01:42:33.000The rich, elitist oligarch out there in California with her Huffington Post website.
01:42:39.000She's attempting to become the fake, controlled opposition to the Obama regime.
01:42:45.000And I guess there are various Air America personalities in the same ballpark.
01:42:51.000Frank Rich of the New York Times says that AIG is Obama's Katrina.
01:43:25.000This is a woman who was implicated in the great genocide in the Rwanda, Burundi, and Congo, Uganda area in the mid-90s, and now she's back.
01:44:26.000And of course, the secret is that China gets 6, 7, 8 percent of their oil supply from Sudan, and that's the reason.
01:44:33.000It's got nothing to do with humanitarian stuff.
01:44:37.000You also have to remember the reason that the genocide, there is undoubtedly genocide in the Sahel region of Africa, all across the southern edge of the Sahara, but that's because there's a world economic depression.
01:44:48.000What do you think happened to those guys when the price of gasoline went to 150, or of oil went to $150 a gallon?
01:44:52.000I mean, they've got to have Gasoline there too, right?
01:44:56.000If they're tractors, trucks run on the same thing as tractors or trucks anywhere else.
01:45:00.000So, the depression, and I think that's also got something to do with Mexico, the internal collapse of Mexico is also a feature of a world economic breakdown crisis and global economic collapse, which is going on and on, and it's not influenced by... Well, we've seen Iceland fall, we've seen Argentina fall, we've seen three nations fall, or partially fall, in Eastern Europe.
01:45:24.000Well, I think so, and the problem is we don't know.
01:45:26.000I mean, the average, pretend, the last 10 years is that 40,000 people die in the third world every day of malnutrition, starvation, and diseases like diarrhea that can be cured for about 50 cents.
01:45:39.000And the carbon tax, they admit, will double that.
01:45:45.000I saw an item on the internet lately where somebody said, if you try to bring Africa up to a US or European standard of living, Well, what would that mean?
01:45:53.000And some journalist says, well, you can't do that, that would be bad for the planet.
01:45:57.000In other words, you simply can't have development in Africa and South Asia if you're going to have this lunatic obsession with global warming, which of course is a pseudo-scientific fraud developed by Al Gore, not even by Al Gore, but by these circles around Prince Charles.
01:46:19.000This guy Holdren, I want to point to somebody that he deserves more attention than he's getting.
01:46:23.000He's the White House Science Advisor to Obama.
01:46:28.000And he talks about something called de-development.
01:46:32.000In other words, countries that have reached the level of industrial society have to go backwards.
01:46:37.000And if you're talking about taking an industrial society and pitching it back into a post-industrial or non-industrial one, which is what is largely happening and has happened in the United States, The implications of this are genocide, because you get a situation in technical terms where the relative potential population density of the country falls below the population.
01:46:58.000So it means there's an overhang that can't be sustained of people, of us, the rest of us.
01:47:04.000There's an interesting article in Forbes where they talk about the Central Valley of California, right?
01:47:09.000It's one of the greatest agricultural production areas In the world.
01:47:13.000If you've ever been down there, the Imperial Valley, El Centro, California, Palm Springs, California... And they say one degree in temperature increase will wipe all that out, when all the studies actually show it'll increase yield.
01:47:26.000Yeah, this is making the desert bloom, making the desert into just a tremendously valuable area of agricultural production.
01:47:35.000The commitment of the environmental fanatics and Malthusian elitists and basically genocidalists in the Obama regime Is to shut down agriculture in the Central Valley of California.
01:47:46.000Because when the banks bankrupt everything, they get to consolidate power.
01:47:51.000Right, but in addition to the banking, which is the main thing of course, that's what holds this whole thing together, there's also the element of a fanatical anti-human ideology.
01:48:01.000That is to say, as you quoted before, a baby is a carbon machine.
01:48:07.000That is, a human being is nothing but a source of carbon pollution.
01:48:11.000I mean, that gets you into the area of high crimes against humanity, the Nuremberg Code, and all the issues of... Well, did you see the other environmental minister in England say, your water footprint's too big, and so we're going to restrict everybody's water, when everybody knows England is one of the most water-rich countries in the world, and have never even charged people for their water usage, because it's such a wet aisle.
01:48:48.000They would show the congressmen that would come through on tours, and they said in their memos, we've got to double and triple prices just to have profits.
01:48:58.000So, we will turn the power off an hour a day to create the illusion of artificial scarcity, so they'll accept the jacking up of prices, and now they're doing that with water in California.
01:49:07.000The environmental groups have shut off all the reservoirs for, you know, some fish or darter, some made-up snail, some kangaroo rat.
01:49:15.000And listen, I've been to Smart Growth Conferences, Webster.
01:49:25.000But it's an anti-human ideology, and I think people have got to get down to very basic things.
01:49:32.000Are you in favor of human civilization and human society, yes or no?
01:49:36.000If the answer is yes, then other things become less important.
01:49:40.000But if you really think that human society has to be run for the alleged benefit of polar bears, snail darters, horned owls, and indeed wolves, or God knows what, sharks even, Uh, then you've really put yourself beyond the pale, and again, you're in the area of the Nuremberg Code, because to deny any population group essential food, shelter, clothing, medical care...
01:50:03.000This is a high crime against humanity.
01:50:04.000This was the issue at Nuremberg in 1945.
01:50:06.000And now the UN has said they will vote for caribou and roaches, and so it's really about people outvoting the general public, saying they represent animals.
01:50:16.000Meanwhile, there's all sorts of real environmental degradation that they use the phony environmental movement as a smokescreen for.
01:50:24.000Questions of pollution, of course, are real, and they're questions of real Toxic pollution in many parts of the world, including in the U.S.
01:50:34.000The question of clean water and clean air for human beings is not what these people are about.
01:50:39.000They're essentially about the idea of turning the clock back to the Dark Ages.
01:50:44.000They say neo-feudalism served them, and Tarbley's done his separate research, found the same findings.
01:50:48.000I've done separate research, found the findings.
01:50:51.000Dr. Monteith, I mean, this is the truth we're telling you.
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01:54:53.000The Obama Deception Webster, I want to close the show out here because on the phone you've just been ranting and raving about it and I'm really pleased.
01:55:01.000You don't usually just hand out compliments like this and I respect your view.
01:55:04.000You also consulted and are in the film.
01:55:07.000And I've heard your own radio show a few Saturdays ago you were going over it.
01:55:10.000In the last few minutes How important is the Obama Deception?
01:55:13.000How effective, because it doesn't come from a left-wing or right-wing, it shows the big picture, as you called it, reality, reality-based information, which is so rare today.
01:57:38.000And try to build this into a backlash, because we're getting... Obama's getting bogged down.
01:57:43.000I wanted to mention the group of 20 next week, right?
01:57:47.000There's the summit of the group of 20.
01:57:48.000It's time to ban derivatives, to shut down the zombie banks, and to deprive Obama of his left coverage.
01:57:55.000The thing that occurred to me, Alex, is we have the Cannes Film Festival, the Venice Film Festival, the Berlin Film Festival, with the Golden Palm, the Golden Lion, the Golden Bear, and I'm sure other parts of the world, too.
01:58:07.000It seems to me that this has a world dimension.
01:58:09.000In other words, there's a world marker.
01:58:13.000Webster, we're out of time, but Webster's going to be in studio with me this Sunday evening in town for the second Obama film here with shooting and in studio Monday co-hosting with me before he goes back to D.C.
01:58:24.000So, Webster, I will see you this weekend, my friend.
01:58:27.000Congratulations again on the Obama deception and everybody should buy it.
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