On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg is joined by Webster Tarpley, an economist, an author, a historian, and a film maker. They discuss the Obama administration's attempt to bankrupt the auto industry, and what it means for the future of the U.S. auto industry. They also discuss the "progressive" policies being implemented in the prisons and the abuse of the prisoners.
00:01:38.000So Webster's been here and Webster it's just I really count you as a friend and I really appreciate you being part of the film and being down here.
00:01:46.000I know that you were going to be here about 10 this morning but you ended up being here late because you couldn't pull yourself away from Obama and the television writing notes.
00:02:03.000uh... in fact it was uh... painful concessions was a quote everything you said six eight months ago that he was going to do so we have almost twelve trillion for the bankers uh... with their fiat derivatives uh... but even loans to the automakers you can have that they call this socialism but this isn't socialism socialism uh... would be propping up uh... the uh... automakers and and and and well that would just be You know, investment in the infrastructure, really.
00:02:33.000But instead, it's just all going offshore to these banks.
00:03:32.000So, what Chrysler and General Motors need to survive for about a year, there's a good part of it that has been given out as bonuses to these parasitical jackal hyenas that run Wall Street.
00:04:06.000They're saying that they'll guarantee the warranty on the cars that have already been bought, but this is heading for a massive downsizing and the busting of the union.
00:04:15.000And I think this is, well, The idea, basically, is if you don't have those factories in Detroit, if you don't have those production lines, above all, if you don't have that tool-and-die capability, meaning machine tools, you're on your way to a banana republic.
00:04:30.000You're on your way to being a derelict hulk, a ravaged wreck, floating on the ocean of adventures, at the mercy of every other Let's be clear, in the IMF and World Bank agreements that they've had with third world countries and first world nations that they've bankrupt by design, they always tell them, you've got to sell off your industry, you've got to break it down, because the banking economy, the fiat economy, the fraud economy, the casino economy, doesn't want competition in the real world.
00:04:58.000Because these magicians and their fiat currency openly want a post-industrial society, as Bilderberg Group says, and Club of Rome Group say, because they want total control.
00:05:07.000And once they have the nation fully de-industrialized, then people will only be able to join the military, only be able to join government service, and will be a giant, governmental-run, third-world banana republic.
00:05:19.000As you've just said, so this plan is clearly coming into view.
00:05:22.000Break down what he said in this speech.
00:05:25.000It's going to be Fiat Chrysler, so we've got to get into a dimension of Fiat money.
00:05:30.000Chrysler's going to run on Fiat money from Fiat in Turin.
00:05:34.000We're headed towards a post-industrial junkyard, a post-industrial rubble field, a moonscape, a cratered landscape with wrecked factories.
00:05:44.000Obama basically says that the plans submitted by uh... chrysler and and general motors are inadequate uh...
00:05:52.000and actually what obama's looking at is the gangrene economy obama believes that everything should be green everything should be uh... low energy intensity and so forth he wants them to build green cars this is absolutely uh... crazy stuff because this can't be done And they all agree that in order to have green cars manufactured, you've got to bust the union, take away the health care from the retirees and the current workers, drive down the hourly wage, and transform Detroit from what it was, which was a high-wage economy, right?
00:06:21.000Goes back, Henry Ford, even Henry Ford realized, you've got to pay the autoworker enough so that he can buy the cars that he's actually producing.
00:06:29.000But now they say, no, we're going to drive them down to the sweatshop level, right?
00:06:32.000Yeah, they don't want a growing economy, and to segue, because in all our interviews we've done in the last two days, we haven't gotten into this, and then we'll go back into the cars.
00:06:40.000Just like two weeks ago, I had the head of the American Legion on, and it was in the Associated Press.
00:06:46.000He went to meet with Obama, and Obama said, the rumors you've heard are true, I want to make injured veterans, not just regular veterans, but amputees, people that have catastrophic loss, I want them to have to get their own insurance and pay for their own medical care.
00:07:03.000So they're not just talking about taking the autoworkers' pensions away or health care away.
00:07:08.000uh... that they've signed contracts and paid money and to to to fund they're now talking about taking away from the troops.
00:07:14.000Can you talk about taking the health care away from veterans?
00:07:17.000Well, they basically want to drive down the standard of living that when Obama says health care reform he's referring to a process of rationing of care under the cover of maybe extending coverage to people who don't have it to essentially lop off the top of the coverage area so that the expensive operations will not You get an aspirin instead of a surgery.
00:07:37.000Yeah, you'll be given band-aids for cancer.
00:07:39.000Specifically, because we're making a film right now, so this will also be in the film.
00:07:42.000Specifically, can you speak to that move?
00:07:44.000Just the arrogance of a quote, only left cover could do this.
00:07:47.000Oh, oh, I'm the liberal, I'm going to give you socialism.
00:07:50.000It's not socialism to take the health care away from the troops and make them pay for it themselves with insurance.
00:07:57.000Well, the idea is that we have this book by Daschle where he says that if you have an affliction, you better learn to live with your affliction.
00:08:05.000This is the guy that Obama wanted to have as the great reformer of health and human services, until he was knocked out by the fact that he was a tax cheat.
00:08:18.000Daschle, of course, is a creature of Citibank.
00:08:20.000Citibank, the biggest employer in South Dakota, which sponsored his political career.
00:08:25.000So this was the guy that Obama was going to bring in and give command over the wrecking of the health care system.
00:08:31.000Again, with this left cover, I'll extend some kind of Band-Aids and aspirin coverage to people who don't have anything.
00:08:38.000But in terms of the expensive technologies, those will be rationed and people will be expected to die again.
00:08:44.000Again, if you're over 65, you're probably going to be a candidate to die.
00:08:48.000If you are overweight, if you smoke, if you have any of these other things that mark you as a high-risk subject, Then they'd say, a cost-benefit analysis makes you a useless eater, and your responsibility is to suppress yourself for the bottom line of the system.
00:09:03.000Meaning, private insurance companies that are piling in to take on parts of this stuff.
00:09:08.000But specifically speak to the troops in that proposal.
00:12:20.000The auto industry today, Ford, Chrysler, General Motors, represents about a century of American history.
00:12:25.000Think about all the generations of working families, UAW families that have contributed to that.
00:12:30.000Think about the great labor battles of the 1930s, right?
00:12:32.000The sit-down strikes with Walter Ruther and the UAW.
00:12:36.000Think about the Toledo auto lights strike.
00:12:39.000Think about the time that Henry Ford got the mayor of Flint to set up machine guns on an overpass so that a march of workers couldn't get close to the Ford plants, and that actually opened fire.
00:12:51.000So this union had to be built on these struggles, and that's something that all of us have a stake in.
00:12:57.000Then on the other side, of course, the technology, this is where the B-17s were built, the tanks were built in World War II.
00:13:05.000These are the factories that stopped fascism around the world, right?
00:13:08.000Built all the stuff that the Soviets used during World War II under Lend-Lease.
00:13:12.000So all of that is now going to be destroyed.
00:13:15.000Now, you're approaching something, I think, important.
00:13:18.000The moment of thermodynamic collapse of the United States, so-called heat death of this economy.
00:13:25.000You reach a point, and we've kind of had a brush with it in the last couple of days, right?
00:13:29.000Suppose everything begins to fail at once.
00:13:31.000Suppose the trains don't run, the trains come to a halt, the subways come to a halt, the airplanes have all got mechanical defects, they don't fly, the electric grid goes down, the system of food distribution begins to collapse, and everything implodes.
00:13:47.000The only way you get out of that is by having industrial capabilities.
00:13:51.000Now what Obama has done today, by saying, no money for General Motors, no money for Chrysler, essentially, Chrysler now has 30 days to live.
00:14:58.000You can build rolling stock for modern railroads.
00:15:02.000And you can build Equipment for a space program.
00:15:04.000If you're talking about exploration, colonization, and industrial production on the moon, Mars, and other nearby objects, you're going to need a ton of stuff.
00:15:11.000And you see, people don't understand that either humans are upwardly mobile, we're either innovating, or we're collapsing.
00:15:18.000And this is understood by the establishment.
00:15:20.000When we come back, I want you to go through, like you did in that taping we did yesterday, the four different systems of, you know, getting... The Lautenbach.
00:15:29.000Yes, let's go through that, because, you know, There's this schizophrenia and this mental gymnastics, this fraud that goes on out there.
00:15:40.000I'm against big government financing to carry out eugenics and tell black women they can't have their man in the house to get money so that they can break down their families and have 90% of legitimacy, which is a government plan.
00:15:53.000But I am for, if you're going to have government, the only thing it should be doing is building giant industrial bases, railways.
00:16:00.000You know, I have a family that works in the railroad system.
00:16:02.000We haven't had the railways fixed in a hundred years.
00:16:05.000We have worse than third world countries.
00:16:10.000When you build roads, when you build industry, when you build factories, it then creates wealth for the people to then spend at your car dealership, to spend at your Mexican food restaurant, to spend at your clothier.
00:16:21.000I mean, this is how real economies work instead of this post-industrial society where we do have Fascism.
00:16:29.000All the money goes to private banks, then they use it to buy up industry and turn it off because they want a total feudal dictatorship to control populations.
00:16:43.000So, I want to go through the Von Mies people and all of them, and I say that's preferable to the big state with the evil eugenicist in control.
00:16:53.000But then what's preferable to that even more is, I think, kind of a hybrid with what we call the free market and what you're doing, because there is no such thing.
00:17:02.000Here's these phony conservatives saying, we cannot give money to Ford and GM, we cannot give money to Chrysler, this is socialism, but then meanwhile they support trillions of dollars to foreign offshore banks with made-up derivative crap they just pulled out of the air with uh... it's not even a ponzi scheme it's it's a illusion like a magician and so the issue here is you have the false fiat economy the banking economy that's now forty percent of the world
00:17:32.000When it should be about 1% of the world sucking like a black hole the whole real economy into it.
00:17:38.000And so if we're going to have, imagine 12 trillion invested in infrastructure instantly, the economy would explode.
00:17:45.000There'd be bulging money in all of our pockets.
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00:19:16.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:19:18.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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00:21:54.000It's the best political documentary to come out of the United States in years or decades, and I think it's going to have a tremendous effect in opening people's eyes, mainly the idea that the Obama people are trying to set up this fake Charade, right?
00:22:11.000That you can choose between Obama on the one hand and Rush Limbaugh and these reactionaries and union busters and what have you on the other.
00:22:41.000He's carrying out a policy that's made up by Summers, Geithner, and indeed by Paul Adolph Volcker.
00:22:47.000One of the people who did the most to create this collapse of the auto industry is Volcker, with a 22% prime rate, going back 30 years ago.
00:22:54.000We're going to go over all that in the next hour.
00:22:56.000We're going to have until 45 after now.
00:22:58.000It's an extra time where you've got to go catch your plane.
00:23:00.000But Webster, before we do that, specifically, we've been having private discussions about this.
00:23:06.000uh... now approaching a bailout bigger than the entire gdp of the united states or close to a third of the world gdp in less than six months and limbaugh and obama are both four trillions to the banks they divert us with the billions in in in bonuses limbaugh says he's for that but what about the private shareholders who are really getting the lion's share of the trillions not just the billions and then they say but you're a socialist
00:23:33.000If you want to help these evil, corrupt auto companies, and then there's endless discussions, it's a fad to bash the auto companies, and they're certainly not perfect, you know, on the news and in the culture.
00:23:45.000Waggoner was forced out last night, and I think Waggoner was forced out because he was somebody who grew up in General Motors, and he might have fought to defend the idea of having an industrial economy, right?
00:24:15.000Went to Deutsche Bank of Germany, Societe Generale of France, and Barclays Bank of Britain.
00:24:21.000So that's about $35 billion for bankers in foreign countries.
00:24:26.000And that's the money, if you had that $35 billion, you could easily save Detroit for a couple of years.
00:24:31.000And generally speaking, $10 trillion for the banks compares to $20 billion for food stamps.
00:24:38.000So you can get $115 a month of food stamps if you're unemployed, if you're an individual or a family getting $250 a month in food stamps.
00:24:47.000Obama's going to raise that by about 10%.
00:24:49.000$40 billion goes to prolonging unemployment benefits, so you get a few more weeks on the dole.
00:24:55.000And at the same time, the trillions are flowing, and above all, a lot of the recipients are in foreign countries.
00:25:01.000If Barclays, Deutsche Bank and Societe Generale are so important, how come Gordon Brown, Monsieur Sarkozy and Madame Merkel don't save them and bail them out themselves?
00:25:14.000What we're being told is that globalized bankers and their web of derivatives across the world, again it's 1.5 quadrillion of derivatives, are more important than the jobs of 3 to 5 million Americans.
00:25:26.000If you wipe out Detroit, the American living standard falls by about 25%.
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00:27:06.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:27:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:27:15.000Webster Griffin-Tyberly is our guest in studio for another 45 minutes and we'll get updates from the shantytowns being converted to FEMA camps in California with two of our reporters on scene, Rob Dew and Jason Douglas.
00:27:28.000Okay, Webster, we were ranting during that one-minute break.
00:27:32.000I mean, just in summation, I don't want you to break it down in your own words, Well, you go ahead.
00:28:09.000They don't have to tell where the money is going.
00:28:11.000They don't have to say how many billions go for bonuses.
00:28:14.000They don't have to say how much of it goes to Dubai or other foreign countries.
00:28:19.000The duplicity of Obama couldn't be more evident.
00:28:23.000We had last week Geithner coming forward with another $100 billion followed by really another trillion for derivatives only.
00:28:31.000And now we're being told that the automobile industry has not gone far enough towards proving its viability.
00:28:39.000And the sharks are coming in, saying, we're going to make you break down, we're going to take your pension funds, we're going to make you be sold out to foreigners, you know, the scrap, the husk, and then meanwhile, once you talk about this in your own words, then the banks flush with all this money, they won't even, the money given to them, they won't even loan it to the auto industry.
00:28:58.000You see, the whole point of the TARP, right, the bailout of last October, the original $700 billion, we were told, you've got to have a viable banking system to provide credit for the economy.
00:29:48.000thirty five thousand jobs where were those banks that are cashing in on the top gravy train right the big bailout money they're not lending why are we supporting these banks the whole idea of this process think about it at the beginning we were told this is not a bailout of wall street this is a bailout of main street we want to make that money available to main street well detroit is main street detroit is everybody's main street the midwest industrial economy around the great lakes is the heart of this country
00:30:15.000You rip that out, this country goes into thermodynamic collapse.
00:31:09.000In other words, he represents Wall Street.
00:31:11.000He's somebody who was obviously promoted by William F. Buckley, somebody who was introduced to Henry Kissinger at an early age, who was brought in with the help of Roger Ailes and others.
00:31:21.000So he's basically telling you that the problem with Obama is that Obama is taking your money and giving it to the deadbeats and the losers and the underachievers.
00:31:31.000And he talks about the achievers, the achieving class, are of course the bankers in Limbaugh's words.
00:31:36.000He had a woman call him up the other day saying... Stay there, we gotta break.
00:31:40.000This is very important and we'll break down what's...
00:31:42.000The good plan to fix things versus what their plan is.
00:31:45.000We'll profile both of those, Webster, Griffin, Tarpley, as we watch the world slide into deep depression and the bankers couldn't be happier.
00:31:54.000Did you know that the new energy czar wants to control how much power your electrical company allows you to have?
00:33:16.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:33:19.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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00:35:12.000How Obama and Limbaugh, they're really on the same team.
00:35:16.000They just create the illusion of choice and that a fight is going on.
00:35:20.000Obama props up Limbaugh with a phony right wing.
00:35:22.000Limbaugh, as White House Memo says, props up Obama with his supporters because they say, well, we hate Obama, then Limbaugh's saying he's helping the poor when in reality he isn't.
00:35:33.000He's imploding the economy, going into shock therapy.
00:35:43.000He's the new Malez, except that the handlers of Obama, the Brzezinskis and Volkers and so forth, have learned from Carter that you can't just go with austerity, sacrifice, blood, sweat and tears, Malez and all this stuff.
00:35:57.000You've got to have some window dressing up front.
00:35:59.000So Obama, also to placate various Democrats in the House and Congress in general, Obama has put some Pieces, some crumbs, some chum, right, have been thrown up front.
00:36:11.000$20 billion for food stamps, $40 billion for unemployment benefits, maybe $50 to $60 billion for infrastructure.
00:36:19.000Now, the US infrastructure deficit is maybe $5 trillion, $7 trillion, $8 trillion.
00:36:25.000Instead, we get 50 to 60 billion of infrastructure from Obama.
00:36:30.000So this is basically camouflage and window dressing.
00:36:35.000Limbaugh attacks the cape, not the matador.
00:36:38.000Limbaugh attacks these penny anti-camouflage things that are set up there in the foreground, and he ignores the fact that you have all of this money going to the bank.
00:36:52.000In other words, this is a dog and pony show that's now being set up.
00:36:56.000Uh, Limbaugh says Obama's a socialist, and he's actually helping Obama.
00:37:01.000Every time Limbaugh attacks Obama as a socialist, or somebody who's helping the deadbeats, helping the poor, helping the losers, that helps Obama, because a large number of people say, well, you know, under Limbaugh, we'd be left with nothing but our eyes to cry with.
00:37:15.000So, this is a terrible, terrible situation.
00:37:18.000Now, you asked before, What can you do in this situation?
00:37:35.000Okay, well this is a speech by this guy Lautenbach to the Friedrich List Society in Berlin in September of 1931.
00:37:42.000So, Germany is sliding rapidly into depression.
00:37:45.000The British have just defaulted on gold September 1931.
00:37:48.000The world depression is getting really deep and they're looking at the threat of Hitler.
00:37:55.000These guys in the German Central Bank said, well, what should we do?
00:37:59.000And Lautenbach gave this speech to this famous meeting, where he said, look, one way would be deflation.
00:38:05.000Cut the budget, cut public expenditure, try to balance the budget, let everybody go bankrupt.
00:38:12.000This is essentially what Andrew Mellon was talking about, the guy who ran Harding, Coolidge and Hoover, when Andrew Mellon said, liquidate stocks, liquidate bonds, liquidate real estate, liquidate labor.
00:39:35.000Because of this speech where he says, if you have a depression, you take bales of dollar bills and put them on the front lawns of bankers, and then you reflate the system with hot money.
00:39:45.000And as Lautenbach says, that doesn't work, because a lot of that money will flee overseas as hot money.
00:39:51.000And that's what we've had with the TARP, right?
00:40:05.000Then, says Lautenbach, what is left is building infrastructure.
00:40:09.000In other words, permanent, valuable upgrades and improvements to the capital stock of your nation.
00:40:16.000Long-term, durable investments in rail systems, transportation, electricity generation, canals, locks, water systems, electronic infrastructure of all sorts.
00:40:29.000And he says, the problem with that is simply the banks need to be supported by a national bank.
00:40:36.000Let's say the United States decides to build 50,000 miles of maglev rail, and we want to have a railroad from New York to San Francisco, we want to have a northern transcontinental, a southern transcontinental, and then we have New York to San Francisco.
00:41:38.000Private banks through the private Federal Reserve, working with their revolving door minions in the Treasury, are transferring everything offshore into their coffers so as things implode they can buy up goods.
00:41:51.000So it's a predatory, kind of cannibalistic economy.
00:41:57.000We're really talking about doing the opposite, truly nationalizing it, and then freeing up that power of credit to then turn, you know, human dreams loose, and then we'll have literal milk and honey.
00:42:09.000Well, yeah, we can certainly get out of a depression and go in the direction of that.
00:42:13.000The thing is to nationalize the Federal Reserve, to make it a Bureau of the Treasury.
00:42:18.000Right now, everything the Federal Reserve does is decided on by unelected, unaccountable, anonymous bankers, especially in those Federal Reserve districts, right?
00:42:28.000A couple of weeks ago, Helicopter Ben dumped a trillion dollars on the market by buying government securities.
00:42:34.000That's the Federal Open Market Committee.
00:42:36.000A lot of people on the Federal Open Market Committee come from these regional Federal Reserve banks.
00:42:41.000They have never even been approved by the Senate.
00:42:43.000They're just private bankers Exercising, usurping this power of bankers over the government.
00:42:50.000And that's already, I think, a terrible thing.
00:42:52.000And Limbaugh calls that a free market, having private bankers rob you.
00:42:57.000I would say, let's stop talking about free markets.
00:43:01.000I don't think there's been a free market for five or ten thousand years.
00:43:04.000No, no, but that's the point I'm making, is they keep calling this freedom and capitalism and all of this, and it's not.
00:43:12.000Real economy down here and above it, these people with God-like financial powers who just create tens of trillions of nothing and buy up whatever they want, and then they call it free market as they tax us to breathe reality into their false reality.
00:43:27.000Yeah, when Limbaugh says free market, he means the sanctity of the 1.5 quadrillion dollar derivatives bubble, which is a product of the free market.
00:43:37.000Remember, the derivatives were illegal from 1936 to 1982.
00:43:41.000There had been an attempt to corner the wheat price using options in the Depression.
00:43:48.000So, during the New Deal, 1936, Ban option trading of agricultural commodities for any reason.
00:43:55.000So that's a long period when we were doing much better where derivatives were illegal.
00:44:00.000Then from in 1982 it was legalized by Ronald Reagan.
00:44:04.000Then we get Wendy Graham comes on the scene in 1992.
00:44:07.000She says we're going to have a safe harbor for derivatives.
00:44:10.000Then there's a big fight under Clinton.
00:44:12.000Brooksley Bourne says we ought to at least make these reportable.
00:44:15.000And then Larry Summers, who's now running the Obama regime economic line, Larry Summers gets on the phone with Brooksley Bourne and says, how dare you, how dare you call for the reportability of derivatives?
00:44:27.000So with the help of Greenspan and Rubin and Summers and now the current crew, the Geissners and Paulsons and so forth, The idea is that the derivatives have become the center of the economy, but they don't dare say this.
00:44:43.000They say, toxic assets, counterparties, unwind, exotic instruments, complex derivatives, but they generally don't want to say derivatives.
00:44:56.000And then they parade around in priest robes saying, we're the magical Federal Reserve, you can't question us, you're a communist, you're a communist, when really they're literally the people feeding everything into their fraud.
00:45:06.000It's like counterfeiting with derivatives.
00:45:09.000And now that it's all falling in, they say, you've got to have your taxes raised to pay for this.
00:45:14.000And they call that free market, as Obama announces in the Wall Street Journal, they're going to gut the whole tax code to go after even the poorest people with basically no tax exemptions on your house, education, nothing.
00:45:45.000Arrest somebody like Geithner, who was sitting at the Federal Reserve there in New York City and arranged to get that money for AIG, and Paulson from Goldman Sachs, who made sure that the TARP was designed so that the biggest single beneficiary of the TARP so far seems to be Goldman Sachs, his company.
00:46:05.000So he's got colossal conflicts of interest.
00:46:08.000This guy, Summers, also, his role in bringing the derivatives plague into the world.
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00:49:14.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
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00:51:39.000The tent city is now trying to move him into a camp.
00:51:43.000Partly he's going to be with us until 50 after and then he's got to go catch his plane.
00:51:47.000Webster, look, for viewers out there, for people out there that are watching and listening to us right now.
00:51:56.000If you want to go after the bankers, we can politically all day wait for the next congressional election or try to wait for another president and hope.
00:52:09.000They've involved in so many different types of embezzling and conflicts of interest.
00:52:14.000And when you start those criminal investigations with grand juries, when you start those indictments, then more and more of them will blow the whistle and you'll find out the whole crew is as bad as Bernie Madoff or worse.
00:52:25.000And so I see politically, and by the way, it's a risk to come out and make films and radio shows and say this, if people don't play games, because they know this is the most effective thing, is to start beating the drum.
00:52:35.000Instead of having the bankers that engineered this crisis, posing as our savior, saying, new bank of the world, currency, dictatorship, you know, currency control, Instead of them getting more power out of the crisis they've created, we need to call for their investigation and indictment, and then that would politically bring them down and identify them as the criminals and the bad guys, and this could be a peaceful, bloodless revolution.
00:53:03.000Now I see that as the best chance to end this in a more peaceable manner and not go too much deeper into the depression.
00:53:10.000Probably not going to happen, but if we try, it could happen, because what they're doing is obviously so criminal and they're so unpopular.
00:53:16.00098% are against them in every major poll you look at.
00:53:20.000So that's my basic thrust and my idea to circumnavigate the corrupt political structure, get state grand juries, federal grand juries, To go after these bankers already?
00:54:05.000He was the head of Citibank, the same Citibank that brought you Rubin and Summers and Geithner and the rest of this clique.
00:54:13.000So, Pekora hearings, Congressman Pekora called in this guy Mitchell, and essentially what it was is that Citibank had manipulated stock prices in the crash of 1929.
00:54:23.000And this got a big, big public exposure.
00:54:27.000And that, I think, was a kind of a cultural change, a moment of cultural change when people realized that these bankers had created tremendous crimes.
00:54:35.000Now, if you look at more recent times, I think the best bet, realistically, is an ambitious politician at the state level.
00:54:42.000Look at this guy, Spitzer, in New York State.
00:54:44.000Now, he actually did quite a number of cases, and that's why they had to get rid of him.
00:54:48.000They didn't want Spitzer sitting in Albany while Wall Street was going through the situation we have now.
00:54:55.000Look at Andrew Cuomo, certainly an ambitious politician, with many problems of his own, but he seems to have latched on to AIG.
00:55:03.000Maybe there are other state attorneys general in other states that would like to join in on this, because they'd be performing a very important public service.
00:55:11.000It's going to take somebody who wants to build a career, right?
00:55:14.000Yeah, but let's be clear about Spencer.
00:55:17.000Hundreds of counties and grand juries and others moving in unison, or they'll kill them, they'll set them up, they watch them for one thing they do wrong.
00:55:26.000Spitzer, of course, as you know, had written an editorial in a major newspaper saying, this is criminal with derivatives and these banks, we need to go after them.
00:55:32.000And they said, buddy, you saw a hooker, the FBI's been watching you for years, we've been watching your bank account, we're going to bring out even the details of the dirty stuff you did with the hooker.
00:55:41.000I mean, as if that wasn't an obvious political hit, that was also a message to everybody going into their takeover, that you mess with us, we're going to bring any skeletons out of the closet.
00:55:52.000But I think now that the rising populist economic rage against these Wall Street exploiters and raptors and so forth, the hedge fund hyenas, I think that we're going through a cultural shift Where the possibility of actually doing something in this direction.
00:56:09.000I would go back and look at the Greenspan Federal Reserve.
00:56:12.000Look at the clique that re-imposed derivatives.
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01:03:04.000Okay, Webster Tarpley, for the 23 minutes we have left, I'm going to attempt to just sit back here and let you roll, but we were getting into the fact of arresting these people.
01:03:22.000This is the way, because they've got the political system under their control, we've got to move on them for their criminal activities.
01:03:27.000We've got to move with Ron Paul for the audit of the private Federal Reserve.
01:03:30.000We've got to point out that in Congressional testimony, time and time again, The Federal Reserve and others say, we won't tell you where the money went.
01:03:38.000This is outrageous stuff going past the level of lunacy.
01:03:43.000This is political, you know, excalibur we have to crush these people.
01:03:54.000Well, you've got the precedent of the Peckera hearings back in the 1930s where they essentially put Charles Mitchell of Citibank on the hot seat and he had to tell how he had rigged the stock market and stolen people's money during the crash of 1929 and following.
01:04:09.000You've also had the interesting precedent set more recently by Governor Eliot Spitzer when he was the...
01:04:16.000The Attorney General there in the state of New York, even Cuomo now, going into AIG, and I think there's a lot of investigation that has to be done there.
01:04:25.000There's this proverb that you can't tell who's swimming naked until the tide goes out, and the tide of course is the crash And as the economy crashes down, you're going to find a lot of people who were thought to be masters of human destiny, financial geniuses, and whiz kids, turn out to be embezzlers, derivatives, merchants, and so forth.
01:04:46.000But I think at the highest level, it's audit the Federal Reserve.
01:04:51.000That will lead us back to Paul Adolph Volcker, who is now sitting in the Obama White House.
01:04:56.000He's, I think, one of the most influential and powerful people there.
01:05:00.000You've got Greenspan, who has now confessed that his entire economic line was completely wrong, that he didn't understand economics and screwed it up terribly.
01:05:12.000And then you've got Bernanke, Helicopter Ben.
01:05:15.000Now, that gets us into the current time.
01:05:18.000Under Bush, we had Hank Paulson, Hanky Panky Paulson.
01:05:24.000And he is the one who decreed this $700 billion original bailout, the so-called TARP.
01:05:31.000And that, we see now in retrospect, that Goldman Sachs, his company, was not only the beneficiary of about $20 billion directly from the TARP, but in terms of the bailout of AIG, Ten to fifteen billion of that also went to Goldman Sachs, in addition to the foreign banks, Barclays, Societe Generale and Deutsche Bank.
01:05:53.000So, what's the conflict of interest on Hank Paulson as Secretary of the Treasury?
01:05:58.000And remember, this is the guy who demanded dictatorial power to use that money in any way he wanted.
01:06:06.000Now you've got Geithner continuing the same policy.
01:06:09.000Geithner was in the same room with Paulson Back in September of last year when Lehman Brothers and AIG and Merrill and so forth went under, now you've got Geithner who says he wants to be able to seize any company he wants for any reason he wants.
01:08:23.000I think that Sheila Bair is right now violating the laws that would normally dictate that she would seize the four or five or six biggest banks, money center banks, derivatives banks, in Wall Street.
01:08:35.000Every Friday, they announce some little bank, right?
01:09:07.000Because you got cut off on the break when you were really getting into the political solution, and Justice be done, may the heavens fall.
01:09:14.000The way to stop them the quickest is to discredit them because they're all a bunch of made-offs or worse, as you said, running scams.
01:09:20.000Then you have Geithner literally feeding more than $12 billion of the money directly into Goldman Sachs, and then that's not discussed, how that's then served out as bonuses.
01:09:33.000And so right there, that is serious criminal activity, but because they control the federal regulators, they're put up there on a pedestal as our saviors, when meanwhile it was Summers and Rubin and others who are openly running the White House right now with Geithner as their minion, former New York Fed head, telling us how they're going to set up a world government to save us.
01:09:51.000So I want to specifically get into that.
01:10:55.000There's no force in the universe that could stop them from coming down.
01:10:58.000The panic has started and there's no way out of it.
01:11:02.000And remember, this is all being pumped up.
01:11:03.000by future generations and currently having $12 trillion in the last six months and growing, tacked onto our backs as they raise myriads of state, local, federal, international taxes to pay it.
01:11:15.000Again, either we go to the pain of this collapsing now and then rebuild it, or we feed everything into the vortex.
01:11:21.000Yeah, in other words, there's no way to keep those prices up.
01:11:27.000In other words, there's nothing you can do about housing prices.
01:11:35.000What you have to think about is, do we have enough houses to put roofs over the heads of people?
01:11:41.000In other words, how many homeless do you have?
01:11:42.000That's your question, not what housing is worth.
01:11:46.000California, you've got hundreds of thousands and now coming up to a million empty houses almost, and they're saying, these middle class people, you can't live in a tent while you raise money to go get an apartment, that's what they're doing.
01:11:55.000We're going to stick you in a sports stadium, we're going to stick you in a fairgrounds with barbed wire and police, with the crackheads, with the mentally ill, with the drug addicts, and then we're going to have taxpayers pay to police that, instead of working out some deal with these empty houses to get them into it.
01:12:09.000I don't want to hear it's socialism folks, instead it's all just being given to the banks.
01:12:15.000A rational policy would be to say, derivatives are worthless, wipe them out, adjustable rate mortgages are criminal inventions, forget about them, stop all foreclosures, shut down the zombie banks.
01:12:27.000Then you have to say what you want to subsidize and foster and assist is tangible physical commodity production.
01:12:35.000That's where this Detroit stuff becomes so important.
01:12:37.000And so you have tax incentives for factories, roads, infrastructure, rail, And then that gives people well-paying jobs to then go buy food at the local restaurant or at the local shopping mall.
01:12:48.000Now, Tarbly, we're almost out of time.
01:12:51.000They have said they're now going to seize insurance companies and other banks and other industries, and we see Obama telling The big three automakers, we're going to tell you what you've got to do.
01:13:03.000We're going to tell you how you're going to operate.
01:13:06.000The government is going to come in and run you, but then he doublespeaks and says, but this isn't nationalization.
01:13:35.000So speak to that, and what we're doing with the automakers, and then in closing when we come back, I want to get into how they pyramid the debt, what derivatives are for those who don't understand, and what this G20 means with this new ultra monetization where they're issuing this super currency.
01:13:50.000Yeah, the thing with Detroit again is those factories are the most precious asset for humanity that we still have in this country, among others.
01:13:59.000What you ought to be doing with those is building equipment for a space program, massive production of tractors to mechanize agriculture, especially in Africa, the third world, Sudan, Bangladesh, places like this.
01:14:10.000You ought to be producing stuff for maglev rail, high-speed rail, all kinds of capital goods that can come off those assembly lines.
01:14:18.000And instead, what Obama wants to do is impose the gangrene economy.
01:14:22.000The gangrene economy means these... No, we covered that earlier.
01:14:26.000I mean specifically the unconstitutional nature Of Obama saying, we're not going to give you money and when you fail, we're going to come in and basically hand you off to foreigners.
01:14:36.000I mean, the issue of the President coming in and doing all of this.
01:14:41.000Yeah, I think it's illegal and of course it's the corporate state.
01:14:45.000This is precisely, I think, this may be covered by the Supreme Court opinion striking down the National Recovery Act in the 1930s, which was a corporatist idea, which was not a good idea.
01:15:00.000Break down how the derivatives work and how they nest them as Russian dolls or as a pyramidal structure.
01:15:08.000If you look at this AIG hedge fund in London, AIG Financial Products, it's clear that they had first of all collateralized debt obligations and And credit default swaps.
01:15:20.000Credit default swaps are kinds of insurance policies that these hedge funds sell each other outside of normal insurance regulations.
01:15:27.000So it's about three trillion of derivatives coming out of one hedge fund, one in London, controlled by AIG.
01:15:36.000That's more than the gross national product of France.
01:15:38.000So it's a pyramid in the sense that they probably start with credit default swaps, then they add a layer of collateralized debt obligations, then they add a layer of structured investment vehicles, you can add a couple of layers of auction rate securities, you might have some asset-backed securities, some mortgage-backed securities, you mix this all up.
01:15:59.000The idea then is as long as the cash flow is positive, The leverage is positive and the profits at the top that are generated are absolutely astronomical.
01:16:10.000But the problem is, as soon as anything goes wrong at the base, any little thing, right?
01:16:14.000If Delphi begins to go bankrupt, if a few subprime mortgages here and there get defaulted on, then what that does is it takes all of that and it magnifies it and it multiplies it, so that then the losses generated at the top of the pyramid are absolutely astronomical.
01:16:31.000And so what's this cherry on top accelerating the private IMF World Bank system now saying, we're issuing secret currency and we won't tell you what any of this is, but just give us more money.
01:16:44.000Yeah, the group of 20 meets tomorrow, or this week, the day after tomorrow.
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01:19:15.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:19:17.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
01:21:12.000Okay, folks, we are back live here, ladies and gentlemen.
01:21:17.000Final segment with Webster Griffin Tarbley.
01:21:20.000And then we've got Luke Rudowsky and other We Are Changers up at the 8 after when we come back in live in the next hour or when we come back live for five minutes and they're going to be on with us.
01:21:28.000I've got a ton of other news we're going to be covering and come up in about 45 minutes we'll go to the tent cities in California where we have reporters there shooting footage for this new film as well.
01:21:36.000Okay, so we've gotten to the G20 where they're openly announcing a Europe of the World run by England.
01:21:41.000We were watching the Parliament last week taping it to put it in the film.
01:21:45.000Openly announcing world government, tracking everybody down, a global tax rate of over 80% to feed the banks.
01:21:50.000I mean, this is a... To save the polar bears.
01:22:26.000They give you a letter of intent, and you've got to do what it says.
01:22:30.000Then there's also the special drawing rights hyperinflation on top of all this.
01:22:35.000That not only did they demand cash money from the various countries, but they've got these things called special drawing rights, right, basket of currencies, a derivative, if you will, and they're multiplying those.
01:22:44.000So the IMF is going to issue more and more special drawing rights.
01:22:48.000So now we're going to have two-tier hyperinflation.
01:22:50.000We're going to have the hyperinflation in the dollar, the euro, maybe the yen, maybe others, and then on top of that, a second layer of hyperinflated special drawing rights.
01:23:00.000The SDRs, I think, would be the world currency.
01:23:02.000They also want to have the IMF become the world regulator.
01:23:06.000In other words, the currency dictator of the world.
01:23:10.000Mainly, marching to the orders of Gordon Brown and the Bank of England.
01:23:15.000He's founded G20, and when he's there, they openly call him, basically, the world leader.
01:24:36.000This is an old idea from Carter Mondale.
01:24:38.000When Carter Mondale came in in 1977, they had this idea that Japan and Germany, with the locomotives of the world, they sent Mondale on a special trip to both of them, saying, you guys have got to start printing money, stimulating.
01:24:52.000What they mean by this is, they're afraid of a dollar collapse.
01:24:56.000They want to make sure that all the other currencies are as weak or weaker than the dollar.
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01:27:14.000We've got five short minutes left on the Webster-Tarpley, then the whole story of what happened with Luke Rudowsky and others in New York being arrested.
01:27:21.000Luke will be joining us in T-minus seven minutes.
01:27:24.000Finishing up here, we have the Real Board of Directors of America meeting with their frontman, their spokesman, Obama last week.
01:27:53.000And I'm talking about Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase, Pandit of Citibank, known as Pandit the Bandit in insider circles, Lewis of Bank of America, Blankfein of Goldman Sachs, Mack of Morgan Stanley.
01:28:06.000Blankfein and Mack were getting about a dollar every time you bought a gallon of gas last summer.
01:28:11.000They were getting about a dollar of it from speculation, from speculation to the I.C.E.
01:29:22.000Well, my friend Phil Berg of Philadelphia has a case in federal court, according to which Obama may well be a citizen of the British Empire by virtue of being born in Kenya.
01:29:34.000Which would make him ineligible for the presidency.
01:29:37.000He's either a citizen of Kenya or of Indonesia.
01:29:40.000Indonesia may be a little bit more likely, but he may indeed be a citizen of Kenya.
01:29:44.000I think there's a real question about whether he's qualified to be the president.
01:30:00.000I guess talking to plants is okay, but when they start talking back is when you gotta worry.
01:30:03.000Or, how about a little badinage with Prince Philip?
01:30:06.000Prince Philip is the guy who says, if I could be reincarnated, I would like to come back as a deadly virus to kill people and solve the problem of global overpopulation.
01:30:22.000They admit this is the first time a sitting U.S.
01:30:24.000President who has been summoned will go through all of the... The kowtow.
01:30:30.000Yeah, the kowtow, all of the forms of worship, going in in a reviewing line and having her... I mean, this really shows England's running it all.
01:30:40.000Yeah, when your country is reduced to a ravaged wreck and derelict One minute left.
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01:30:49.000The United States is now a ship of fools run by derivatives bankers.
01:31:17.000We're buying plastic toys and things and giving all our money to the bankers to buy bigger palaces.
01:31:22.000China's building lightning fast rails, some of the fastest in the world, huge factories, schooling, everything.
01:31:29.000We need to build, we ought to build a hundred nuclear reactors, 50,000 miles of maglev, a thousand hospitals, rebuild the interstate highway system, rebuild water systems, rebuild sewage, rebuild schools.
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01:35:27.000You made your one phone call from jail.
01:35:30.000And we did an emergency broadcast, got the word out.
01:35:33.000So I want to hear what response that caused.
01:35:35.000What have you been charged with for asking Bloomberg a question or even arriving at a hotel to do that as a member of the press?
01:35:42.000First of all, I want to thank you and your listeners for calling into the police station last night.
01:35:47.000My friend Anthony and Manny, they were listening to the police officer talking over about the trespass and how they wanted to charge me with having a fake trespass.
01:35:56.000It was your callers, it was you that called in and got those charges dropped.
01:36:00.000They are charging me with criminal trespass for walking into a hotel.
01:36:50.000On record for folks watching this later on the web or at PrisonPlanet.tv or on the radio listening, in Truth Rising there is the footage from two different camera angles.
01:36:58.000He's on a public sidewalk protesting the cover-up of 9-11 in front of Building 7.
01:37:03.000The retired police are security thugs for Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center complex, who's cashed in big time.
01:37:10.000They show up and say, we're going to say your camera's a gun, your backpack's a bomb, we know you're not a terrorist, but you'll end up serving 30 days in the hole before they figure that out and let you out.
01:37:18.000Then police show up in blue, they grab your camera, they say, this is a gun, it's all on tape, somebody down the street gets some video as well, and because we happened to get away with some video, they didn't frame you for a bomb.
01:37:29.000So we have the police on tape trying to frame you for a bomb and a gun.
01:38:34.000After I got out of Central Bookings, I went to the precinct where the cameras and footage was located.
01:38:39.000I asked them for my footage and camera.
01:38:41.000They said, no, you're not getting your camera, you're not getting the three cameras, you're not getting the footage.
01:38:46.000It is criminal evidence and the DA has to release it to you and it's part of a criminal investigation.
01:38:51.000Now let's be clear, let's stop here, because if you get some two-bit lawyer, we'll just waste money, nothing will happen.
01:38:55.000You need to get press releases out on this to state the whole truth.
01:38:59.000They framed you, they told you don't leave, now they're grabbing your cameras, which is your evidence, and your tapes, the evidence that they came up and said, stay here, and then went and lied, and come back and say he won't leave.
01:39:12.000And now, if they erase those tapes, that's more criminal activity.
01:39:15.000This is racketeering, this is organized crime, if they do that.
01:39:21.000I was actually told by correction officers and police officers who I'd befriended during this whole process that they will probably delete the footage as I was told by police officers.
01:39:31.000I was in the 18th precinct at the precinct and they were telling me, you're going to be let go in a couple hours away from this precinct.
01:39:37.000Within a couple minutes NYPD intelligence came down, a whole bunch of guys in suits came down and they said no, he's going down to Central Bookings.
01:39:44.000they were looking through my pictures they were looking through everything i had literally through uh...
01:39:49.000everything that i had they were just looking through every single thing try to look at any little problems with me trying to try to get me in trouble and they even saw pictures of me at a gun range and they were asking me if i had a permit or a license and they confiscated that camera as well and those pictures as well amazing out there in the land of the free home of the brave going after your second amendment Well, Luke, you know, that's why I'd watch what you carry on cameras.
01:40:14.000I know you guys tend to carry a lot of your old video and photos and family photos with you.
01:40:18.000You know, tell them what these goons will try with that.
01:40:21.000Look, I commend your courage, and I commend what you've done, but I've told you And I know you've said, no, I'm going to continue.
01:40:27.000I've said, look, they already set you guys up with the other fella attacking you and then saying you attacked the girl in the wheelchair.
01:40:36.000They've already tried to claim you have a bomb on you.
01:40:38.000I'm not saying back off these guys, but I would only do it at press conferences and I would watch yourself because this is mafia.
01:40:46.000And next, the gloves are going to come off even worse, and you've done so much other good work with the other journalism you do, the other people you interview, the other people you confront at press conferences.
01:40:55.000You know, this is a mafia Don you're dealing with, the mayor of New York, and they're really getting sick of you exposing the fact that he's blocking the first responders healthcare.
01:41:13.000They think it's normal to frame people as we have on video.
01:41:16.000So I would get all their names, who they are.
01:41:19.000I would go through the procedures of demanding that you have to, when it goes to trial, you have to mark as evidence your videos and then demand that they give you your videos so that you can use that as evidence.
01:41:33.000You know, already the lawyer you guys had for the last case of this then died mysteriously.
01:41:38.000Tell folks about what happened with that.
01:41:40.000Well, I just wanted to let you know that this was an official press event.
01:41:43.000This was a Bloomberg fundraiser that other press people were attending.
01:41:50.000But they don't... Luke, a year and a half ago they already tried to say you had a bomb and your camera was a gun.
01:41:57.000And you get death threats at your house.
01:41:58.000All I'm telling you is, go ahead and do what you're doing if you want, but be prepared for them to kill you.
01:42:04.000I mean, be prepared for us six months from now to hear Luke Radowsky OD'd, or Luke Radowsky jumped off a bridge, or Luke Radowsky shot himself in the head three times.
01:42:12.000I'm saying, be fully conscious of the area that you're entering here.
01:42:42.000All of this, I'm not trying to preach at you, I care about you, and I'm just telling you, watch yourself, and you really need to think about what you're, you know, I understand it's a press conference, I understand you have a right, I understand it's a hotel with restaurants and bars, and you would have left if they told you to leave like you always do.
01:42:56.000I know, I'm saying, they're turning up the heat.
01:42:58.000You go to other events, on the street, his secured people run up to you separately, and say, that's Luke Radowsky, I'm just saying, they're on you.
01:43:05.000As Bloomberg Security Guard, they know me.
01:43:07.000Police intelligence knows me fully well.
01:43:09.000Every time I attend events, there's a historical past with this event that happened.
01:43:14.000Mayor Bloomberg, actually, a couple months ago, we confronted him.
01:43:18.000As we were filming for our new film, Truth to Power, we confronted Mayor Bloomberg five times.
01:43:22.000in 2008 and he actually put pressure on organizations that help first responders and told them if if he keeps confronting me I'm not gonna help you if he stops confronting me I will help you with the Zadoga bill I will help you with fundraisers now I had to confront him because he went back on his word I left him alone for a couple months I didn't confront him I look he even walked by me a couple times I didn't say well and and and and I know and now that you're trying to get
01:43:48.000The horrible little demonic, thug-like, pot-bellied police of New York.
01:43:53.000I mean, it really is like out of a nightmare movie.
01:44:14.000I will tell you that the higher officials of the NYPD and everybody involved with persecuting me is corrupt.
01:44:20.000But talking to the police department, talking to the corrections officers, going through the whole process down in central Wilkins, they are really fans of our work.
01:44:29.000They were extremely supportive and extremely helpful to me as well.
01:44:32.000There's a lot of good police officers out there that helped me get through this.
01:44:35.000I know that, but I'm talking about the ones that are framing you.
01:44:39.000And I know Bloomberg said, okay, leave me alone, I'll get them some funding.
01:44:44.000But, you know, regardless, and those officers need to speak up that you were framed.
01:44:48.000You know, I tell you, they need to know there's a lot of people watching this, a lot of people looking at this, and they need to know that they're going to end up, you know, this is mafia activity.
01:44:57.000Now, when are they saying you're going to get your footage back?
01:45:01.000They said that the trial is in two months.
01:45:03.000They said I won't be able to get my footage back.
01:45:05.000I'm going to have to go through lawyers and the DA in order to get my footage back.
01:45:09.000Well, you need to make a filing on evidence yourself that you need that for your trial.
01:46:21.000And I had to be sent back into the Central Booking Holdman area, which is like a third world prison in there.
01:46:26.000And the conditions that I endured and Manny and Anthony endured were incredibly harsh and extreme.
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01:51:25.000I want to go ahead and bring up, you say Manny had to go, Anthony Varas is still there.
01:51:30.000Anthony, and then we'll go back to you briefly.
01:51:32.000Luke, I know you've got to go into class too.
01:51:33.000I think this is a little more important.
01:51:34.000You guys might want to miss class, but the story's hot right now.
01:51:38.000Later you won't be able to get your story out.
01:53:30.000Because they may not give your tapes back.
01:53:32.000It's just so criminal to see this happening.
01:53:35.000Any other key things that you want to report to folks, Anthony?
01:53:38.000Well, I'm surprised they actually gave the vouchers, because when we first left the police precinct, they didn't give us vouchers for all the equipment that we had.
01:53:47.000They just gave us vouchers for one camera, and we went back saying that we have two other additional cameras here, and then they wrote out the vouchers for us.
01:53:55.000So hopefully we will be able to get those tapes back.
01:54:37.000No, initially it was just plain clothes, Bloomberg's goons, hotel security staff, and then they had called in the police.
01:54:47.000There was police on the perimeter of the building, very strong, because Bloomberg and other politicians were there.
01:54:53.000I was in the room with security for no more than five, ten minutes, trying to grab the camera out of my lap as I was recording, grabbing my arms, and within ten minutes the cops were there and we were taken out.
01:55:06.000Yeah, so they've got you in the office, but they're saying he refuses to leave, but we've made him go in the office.
01:55:10.000I mean, any jury hears that, even if they steal your tape, it's obvious lies.
01:56:15.000It will do an hour, hour and a half on this subject because even if you don't care about We Are Change and Luke, these great guys, it's the First Amendment and it's the secret police and how they're trying to set folks up.
01:56:26.000Anthony and Luke of We Are Change New York, WeAreChange.org, thank you for spending time with us.
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02:01:25.000Rob Dude, tell me about your experience when you got into Los Angeles, what you saw there with the homeless in tent cities, what you witnessed up in Sacramento.
02:01:32.000They're now doing a foursome, and I have a video clip coming up with Schwarzenegger and the Sacramento Mayor saying, look, tough love, you can't just live out here in tents.
02:01:42.000We're going to make you go to the fairgrounds.
02:01:44.000So Rob Dude, joining us from California.
02:01:47.000Well Alex, I don't think they're going to go quietly.
02:01:51.000The people that we've been talking to here, they don't plan on going to this Cal Expo Center.
02:02:00.000They don't get a lot of information or feedback from the mayor or the city.
02:02:05.000They just come down all of a sudden and tell them things.
02:02:12.000Everybody that we've met so far has been really nice.
02:02:14.000These people just want to live here and be left alone.
02:02:19.000It's right at the edge of town, and you go right over some railroad tracks where a levee is, and you can see there's at least, in just this one little area, there's at least 300 tents kind of spread out over a few acres.
02:02:34.000From there, it goes, the levee runs right along the river and then, you know, they say it runs back another six miles.
02:02:41.000There's pockets of tents scattered in.
02:02:48.000It's been hard to get good audio for the interviews.
02:02:51.000We have to get inside a tent to keep the wind out.
02:02:56.000But we've met a lot of nice people and they say they're not going to move.
02:03:01.000They say if they try to make us move, we'll just grab our stuff and walk off.
02:03:05.000Listen, I want you guys next to hike all the way down that and to have...
02:03:12.000Jason Douglas, interview you, you know, as you go to the trees, as you go by the levee, and show how there's a whole community down in there.
02:03:21.000You know, the media says 145 tents, but then local news has said up to 300 tents.
02:03:26.000How many people just in this one archipelago of people living on the edge?
02:03:33.000Well, I would say, I would say definitely more than 350 people that I've seen.
02:03:41.000We counted the tents in just the one area that we're at.
02:03:45.000There's 85 in one section, then it runs along a fence line where there's another like 30.
02:03:49.000And then there's another section that opens up and that's got 40 there.
02:03:53.000And then, even before you get to those areas, there's pockets of 10 tents here, another 15 here.
02:03:59.000You go across the bridge, there's some underneath the bridge.
02:04:02.000They've really, you know, scoped that area out and, you know, they say, look, we're not bothering anybody, we're out of the way.
02:04:08.000No, they really don't have a lot of crime there.
02:04:11.000We were there until 10.30 last night and at no point did we ever feel threatened you know now what type of folks are these we've seen newscasts where it's lower middle class people who got a bad mortgage lost everything they can't get credit for the two three month down payment for an apartment or a rent house so they're most of them have said they're trying to save money to get out of there and that they're going and leaving with their cars to jobs right Well, and that's an interesting thing.
02:04:39.000He's been out there for about a year now and he has a day job.
02:04:42.000He works every day in construction and comes back and lives there.
02:04:45.000And he just, you know, he likes the freedom.
02:04:47.000Um, he doesn't, he doesn't really want to have an apartment.
02:04:50.000You know, a lot of these people, uh, well, we've been finding is that they want to be out here.
02:04:54.000They're not looking, uh, to be part of the system.
02:04:57.000We have met people who've been out of their apartment for not making rent.
02:05:01.000And then they have to make that money that two months plus a deposit.
02:05:05.000And then if they have a dog or, you know, or a cat, you know, it's another three or four hundred on top of that.
02:05:10.000So, we have yet to find a person that said they've lost their mortgage, although, um, what we're hearing from the people is that, um, a lot of the people we've talked to is that there's, uh, there's one guy that lost his mortgage and he was there for about a month and a half, and then he left, but he still comes back to bring stuff for people.
02:05:31.000Um, so, what we're thinking of is, To us, from what we've been gathering, is that that has kind of been hyped up in order to create the news story.
02:05:40.000But these, you know, a lot of people have said they've been out here for years.
02:05:43.000There have been some people who have been out there for a few months.
02:05:45.000A lot of people, they're either getting kicked out of their house by their spouse, or they're just losing their apartment because they can't pay rent.
02:05:52.000We met one guy who was a director of sales for his company.
02:05:58.000This small company, it was a flooring and tile company, and the company went under and he lost his job.
02:06:03.000And he hasn't been able to find a new one and he was staying at the Cal Expo Center for a while.
02:06:07.000But you gotta really hear about this Cal Expo Center.
02:06:10.000This place is definitely, this is like a FEMA camp in the making.
02:06:14.000I mean, you have to be there, you have to be at the pickup point by 3 p.m.
02:06:37.000I mean, go over, but this is what I kept telling people.
02:06:40.000They say they have in the news, CPS in there, if you have kids, and they say, oh, your child's in danger, they grab them.
02:06:45.000So they won't let you go out and live in the woods, or go out and live on the side of the road, or live by a river, and then try to raise money.
02:06:50.000They're going to force you in with the crackheads, with the heroin heads, with the schizophrenics, with the, you know, kind of baseline of classic homeless.
02:07:00.000With this new homeless, the working poor, integrating them into this hellhole, taking their basic freedom away, and as the economy implodes, you're going to see more and more of this, and this is the precedent Obama has said, and the bill's introduced, to set up these FEMA camps, and your prisoners in them.
02:07:18.000So what are they saying the Expo Center, the fairgrounds, is like, and are they saying they're going to be forced in?
02:07:25.000Well, a lot of them are saying they're not going to go.
02:07:27.000They say if they try to force them in, they're going to say no and they're either going to grab what they can grab and move farther back into the woods.
02:07:35.000Um, because what's been happening, they've been kind of kicked out of different places.
02:07:38.000So they've been all kind of corralled into this tent city area.
02:07:41.000It used to be spread out over a larger area.
02:07:43.000And slowly, people who own the different parts of property are either telling them to move or kicking them out or whatever.
02:07:50.000So it's kind of conglomerating into that.
02:07:52.000But going to the Expo Center, you have to be at this bus depot by 3pm.
02:07:56.000So there's really no way you could have a job because it's out at 3pm.
02:08:15.000They wake them all up, put them back in a bus and drive them back to Loaves and Fishes.
02:08:20.000So, they're really not providing much, but just this kind of weird environment that you can kind of get some sleep in, because they do have some bunks there, but they say the bunks are made for almost children, and they spent almost a million dollars to upgrade the facility, and they added 50 bunks.
02:08:36.000There's a lot more than 50 people out here, and, you know, they're not going to go.
02:08:42.000They're either going to pick up their stuff and walk away, and You know, what they've said is before, they've grabbed the stuff, thrown it in a dumpster, and then they just wait for the cops to leave, and they go back and get their stuff out and set up their camps again.
02:08:56.000I know some of them are going to have cell phones for their jobs and things.
02:09:00.000Get as many names, numbers, and cell phones.
02:09:03.000Get a little bit of money, too, for their minutes.
02:09:07.000I want to interview them when you get back at the end of the week.
02:09:09.000I want to have three or four of these people on, kind of a cross-section, and I want you to give them the producer's cell phone you have, the company phone, to call that when all this starts so that we can, or a day or two, if we can find out when they're coming, I will send you back to California so we can be there, or we can get citizen reporters, We Are Change, or 9-11 Truth, or Ron Paul Meetup Groups, whatever,
02:09:36.000Uh... to cover this when they try to forcibly move him.
02:09:39.000Schwarzenegger has said sometime in the next month.
02:09:42.000Now he's been out there several times.
02:09:44.000We're going to play a clip of that coming up in a few minutes.
02:09:49.000Do they have any idea of when they're coming to throw him out?
02:09:52.000They keep saying for what they're thinking is the end of May is what they keep hearing now.
02:09:56.000The end of May is the time that they're going to have to be moved.
02:10:39.000You might think about moving the ticket to Wednesday, because I need you to go back through that archipelago to show these are people literally in the wild living back here, and how it's a lot larger than what the news even shows.
02:10:52.000I want to show them showing up to get on the bus at 3.
02:10:57.000So if you guys have to split up, that's fine.
02:10:59.000But that's in about two hours, your time.
02:11:02.000I want you to get up early, please, to show them coming out at 5 a.m.
02:11:17.000The people here were, they're a little distrustful of the media because they said the media has blown this up and kind of caused the attention to come on us and now we're getting all these negative repercussions where before we were just kind of left alone.
02:11:31.000One thing though, a church paid for some port-a-potties.
02:11:35.000They got four port-a-potties out there for the people, and the city came and removed them after four days.
02:11:41.000They said, no, they're not allowed to have port-a-potties out here.
02:11:44.000So, you know, these guys are literally, you know, creating little makeshift bathrooms.
02:11:49.000The one guy we've interviewed who actually, he has like five or six tents set up with, you know, wind barriers and stuff.
02:11:56.000He actually made himself a bathroom that, you know, that they can use.
02:12:46.000Apparently they had some in Long Beach, and we talked to a couple people there, and they said, no, no, they moved them out a couple weeks ago, and they even gave us a tip saying they brought them to this National, um, uh, an Army Reserve base, and they gave us the address.
02:13:00.000We went over there, and we didn't see anything there, and it looked like it was kind of closed up, but there was a few vehicles and a few buildings, but we didn't see anybody around.
02:13:08.000Well, yeah, they probably moved them there and then somewhere else.
02:13:12.000You can't go sleep in a park, can't sleep on a bench, most places they arrest you, can't go put a tent in the woods, they show up, and so, uh, I mean, I was in L.A.
02:13:20.000a couple years ago and saw little tent cities and shantytowns, so you're saying those are basically gone, so where are these people going?
02:13:27.000Now we met a guy, we were driving down this road and we saw an interesting billboard that has David De Rothschild on it, looking like Jesus Christ, talking about how he's this echo warrior, which we got some footage of.
02:13:39.000And then just down the road from there, there's this big sign that this guy wrote about, you know, where's my bailout, Obama?
02:13:45.000And he had this nice little kind of poem written.
02:13:47.000We went in and interviewed him and he's losing his small business that he put a mortgage, a second mortgage out on his house to get this loan.
02:13:56.000He's like a chiropractor and a massage instructor.
02:14:00.000So he set up his school and it was going good, but a lot of people, he's letting people in for, you know, kind of free or discounted rates to teach him.
02:14:08.000'Cause he's out there just trying to help people and teach people.
02:14:10.000And he wasn't able to keep up with his payment and his land, the person who owned that building, you know, finally had to cut him loose and she gave him the end of the month to get out.
02:14:20.000And, uh, so he's got no way to make money now.
02:14:23.000And he's got a house that he's about to lose.
02:14:25.000And, and he's worried, you know, he might in two or three months, he might be out on the street, you know, and, and he's unable to get the loan.
02:14:34.000You know, he's just kind of in this weird area where, you know, he wasn't able to make his payments for a couple months.
02:14:40.000And that just snowballed into, well, now you have bad credit, now you can't, we're not going to give you any money, and now you're going to go live on the street, you know, basically.
02:14:54.000Specifically now, you're going to get me the phone numbers for some of these people, their names, we're going to have them on the show, and so they can report to us when things happen.
02:15:26.000We're going to go up there in a little while just to scatter it out and see what it's like.
02:15:29.000We're going to be back at the Bus Depot pickup by 3.
02:15:33.000And we're going to interview some people.
02:15:36.000There's a couple of homeless shelters.
02:15:39.000Basically, from where the tent city is, you walk through a small neighborhood that's got a couple streets of houses, and then a lot of industrial park type stuff.
02:15:50.000There's a concrete maker, a granite place, and then an old machine shop.
02:15:53.000And you walk through that and you hit 16th Street, and then you have a lot of the homeless shelters that are pretty much there at capacity.
02:16:01.000I want you to go get footage how those are at capacity.
02:16:04.000Or have you already gotten footage of that?
02:16:10.000And then we're gonna head back up tonight.
02:16:13.000A couple people have, you know, they said, yeah, come back up.
02:16:15.000We'll, you know, we'll show you how we live, you know, how we cook dinner.
02:16:19.000And, you know, they actually, you know, they're able to find food.
02:16:23.000You know, they make, they When they work, they make the money and they don't have to pay for rent, so they are able to use that money for cell phones or for food.
02:16:32.000But the key is now, if they're forced into the tent city and they've got to be out at 5, in at 3, there's no way for most of them to be able to get jobs that they now have.
02:16:43.000So here's the system making it where they can't live.
02:16:49.000By them trying to better themselves and get a job, you know, that option is taken away from them.
02:16:54.000And that's what, that's the crazy part about it, Alex.
02:16:56.000It's like, you know, the government wants to pretend like it's going to help these people, but by trying to help them, they're just creating them, they're making them more dependent on the system.
02:17:06.000Which is what, you know, which is what I think they want to do, to have that control over them.
02:17:11.000Alright, specifically, where is Jason right now?
02:17:20.000It's about, from where we parked, it's about a half a mile hike in and over the Well, I'm sorry I said I would have you on last hour and then now I had you on this hour.
02:17:31.000I know that kind of messed you guys up.
02:17:33.000Sometime tomorrow, do the hike all the way down through, you know, to show and find some of the hermits back there in the back.
02:17:39.000We need to get people to clear picture of this.
02:17:41.000But it's key, and you're doing a great job by the way, Rob, to get lots of footage of the other homeless shelters at capacity and this larger archipelago of homeless people now exploding in size.
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02:28:42.000In California, the governor actually walking among the homeless in a large homeless camp.
02:28:47.000Actually, the sight of Arnold Schwarzenegger today, for some of the people here, it was just stunning.
02:28:55.000About 1230, Governor Schwarzenegger, accompanied by Mayor Kevin Johnson, was finishing an unannounced first-hand tour of Sacramento's now famous tent city.
02:29:04.000We've got to find a balance between, you know, tough love and, you know, compassion and making sure we're listening to everyone, but we can't allow people to live in third-world conditions out here.
02:29:40.000The mayor said the visit was arranged at the governor's request.
02:29:43.000He was out here To really just see first-hand what's out here.
02:29:48.000And I think he got a good idea of hearing that everyone out here has a different story.
02:29:52.000And, you know, his commitment is to do whatever he can to help our city, you know, achieve the ultimate goal, which is a creative environment where everyone long-term has a home.
02:30:13.000Arnold, it's like he's president, he's got like 15 bodyguards, they even keep the press back.
02:30:18.000Arnold would shake a few hands and they would get security guards all around and he would reach his hand like three feet away and barely shake them like that.
02:30:28.000And then they picked the few people, guaranteed, who were like, oh I love it, oh he's so big, oh I feel so powerful that he's here, oh it's so powerful.
02:30:38.000When this is the guy who's ordering them moved out of there to the little FEMA camp where they get patted down and wanded, as we told you they did, now that's confirmed, to go into the camp, the fairgrounds, with barbed wire.
02:30:53.000I mean, you've got to be there at 3, you've got to leave every day at 3 o'clock, you've got, or you have to be there by 3 o'clock, you have to leave at 5 a.m., very hard to have a job that way.
02:31:01.000And most of these people are using this as a staging ground to then go get jobs.
02:31:04.000So, again, that's how the media spins things, that's how disingenuous they are, and there's that.
02:31:12.000Mayor sitting there, you know, saying, you know, this is tough love.
02:31:16.000We're going to go stick you in this facility.
02:31:19.000And then there's this archipelago of other homeless shelters that are official government shelters and private shelters all around the fairgrounds and the Expo Center where the people are being held.
02:31:31.000So you're going to see more and more of this across the country.
02:31:37.000So, we will come back with our guest, Karen Russo, the Wrongful Death and Injury Institute, never had her on the show before.
02:31:43.000I did her on Albrecht Show, it was very, very informative, and a lot of other news interspersed.
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02:35:09.000I come back in on Sunday night from 4 to 6 p.m.
02:35:12.000Central, because so much happens over the weekend.
02:35:15.000That's 22 hours live a week, ladies and gentlemen, of radio transmission.
02:35:21.000And we do it because we're aware of the globalist threat, what the New World Order is up to.
02:35:25.000We know if we warn the people, they can take action against it and defeat it.
02:35:29.000Now, I rescheduled her a few times because so much has happened in the last few weeks.
02:35:32.000I apologize, but I've read over her material, a lot of great research, because I've done so much research on so many subjects, I can tell when somebody's accurate info.
02:35:40.000And is really addressing what's happening and she's got so much more knowledge than I do, you know, on this subject.
02:35:44.000I can just vet and tell you that what she's saying is accurate.
02:35:47.000Karen Russo of the Wrongful Death and Injury Institute, and you can go to her website, wrongfuldeathinstitute.com.
02:35:56.000We'll put a link to that up on screen as it is right now on prisonplanet.tv.
02:36:02.000Just boil it down for us, how you got into this, your research.
02:36:06.000You cover a lot of different areas, but I've heard you on the radio talking about On the Genesis Network, specifically, prisons.
02:36:12.000And people can say, oh, well, they're feeding them, you know, half their diet are more of soy.
02:36:16.000Well, they admit it's full of estrogen-mimicking hormones.
02:36:33.000Well, tell us about yourself, what you do, and then break down what's really happening right now in America.
02:36:37.000Well, Alex, I'll give you the cliff note version as far as I can do it, and I'm not real good at doing this, but we'll give it a whirl.
02:36:44.000We consult with families of inmates, specifically, but not just necessarily in the prison system, regarding medical and death issues.
02:36:54.000Medical issues, as you well know, can cover the gamut, and that goes anywhere from dietary needs to the cost of prison health care within the State Departments of Correction and death issues insofar as it affects the medical examiner system nationwide and the egregious practices of the funeral home industry.
02:37:15.000So whatever happens in a prison system when it comes to dealing with medical issues, we zero in on, basically shine a light in a very dark corner Uh, to help families either advocate for the inmate that they're trying to fight for the life of or find out answers for those inmates that have died and the families have been, um, disallowed the information.
02:37:41.000Well, we know there's medical experimentation.
02:37:44.000It's even leaked out in the Houston Chronicle, where the jail guards started getting sick and dying, and their families, and they were selling dioxin into the prisoners' backs.
02:37:52.000They were saying, you don't get any good food for a year unless you do this.
02:38:05.000You've got just all this hellish stuff.
02:38:07.000Break down some of the worst cases you've seen in your research and some of the things that are happening.
02:38:11.000Well, I think the worst systemic issue that crossed our desk a couple of years ago was the blood scandal in the Arkansas Department of Corrections regarding Factor 8.
02:38:25.000And if anybody wants to really get well-versed in that issue, just Google in the keywords Factor VIII and you'll get a wealth of information on that.
02:38:34.000Yeah, Bayer Pharmaceutical knowingly, Bill Clinton and others, all the world, for a decade after they knew it all had HIV and Hepatitis, mixed it all together as Factor VIII, sold to hemophiliacs and others worldwide, hundreds of thousands.
02:38:56.000And by the way, the prosthesis doctor that exposed that in the first prison, he got firebombed the same night the Hemophiliac Society... That's not unusual.
02:39:06.000He got firebombed in Arkansas the same night, for those that don't know, the Hemophiliac Society suing got robbed in Canada.
02:39:14.000Yeah, and honestly, on the big radar screen of prison healthcare, these are just blips on the radar screen.
02:39:22.000The systemic problem that we've seen over the last 20 years is the issue of health care that the taxpayers in every state are paying for over and above what the costs are for the Department of Corrections.
02:39:37.000And these inmates are not being given, and the key words are, the adequate community standard of health care already paid for by your tax dollars.
02:39:48.000So when they're cut loose, and there are 700,000 inmates that are released every year, the majority of this percentage of inmates either have not been diagnosed with a very severe disease, or they have been diagnosed and inadequately treated, and they're released out into the public, and everybody out here will say, well, you know, hell, we don't want to give inmates medical care.
02:40:12.000Why do we, why do the inmates get better health care than we do out here?
02:40:16.000And the actuality of it is, No, they don't.
02:40:20.000It's a misunderstanding of how the system is set up.
02:40:25.000It's a very bad misunderstanding on the general public because they're ignorant as to the fact of how Department of Corrections works and how the money is managed and appropriated.
02:40:38.000Well, it's just like the VA, anything the government runs, you see all these huge expenditures and only 30-40% actually goes to medical care.
02:40:46.000The rest is bureaucracy, corruption, medical tests, manipulation.
02:40:50.000But in this case, what we advocate so strongly for, you know, I can tell a family member, yes, I understand your pain and all this other stuff that you're going through.
02:41:01.000But the bottom line is, the information is out here for you to get.
02:41:07.000And in order to hold them accountable.
02:41:09.000Now the problem is, as you eloquently stated in past shows, the majority of John Q Public has no idea how to access a government website.
02:41:20.000And when they do access it, they don't know how to read it because the words are so convoluted and misleading.
02:41:28.000So they don't understand how a general assembly appropriation is going to affect their inmate and how it trickles down to their rank-and-file medical care out here.
02:41:41.000Because every time an inmate gets let loose and he's got HIV, HCV, TB, MRSA, meningitis, you name it, every time they're released out here, it is going to affect you.
02:41:54.000Next time you run through a fast food thing, understand who's washing the dishes.
02:42:22.000You've got to be really careful with these numbers.
02:42:26.000And this is the other issue, when you're spouting off, and I don't mean that the way it came out, spouting off numbers about statistics... No, I understand.
02:42:35.000The majority of the statistical tracking, when it is generated by the Department of Corrections, or the Bureau of Justice that took this to task a couple of years ago, the numbers are off.
02:42:49.000They are not reporting, for example, Prison Deaths Act I'll give you an example.
02:42:54.000If I've got an inmate XYZ who, let's just, suicide is an issue, especially in your state.
02:43:01.000So I'll just take suicide as an example.
02:43:04.000Somebody is screaming in the cell block that inmate XYZ has hung himself.
02:43:09.000And they know that he is either in the process of or has already completed that task.
02:43:14.000And these inmates within the cell block may be screaming bloody murder at the top of their lungs for these correctional officers to get down there to see what's going on.
02:43:26.000It took two and a half hours for correctional staff to get down to a unit in the Clements, um, um, I don't mean Estelle unit in your state.
02:44:00.000So what they'll do, if the cell block is already abseg, administrative segregation, or solitary, these guys are already locked down anyway.
02:44:09.000If it isn't, they're going to lock down the cell block, and they're going to call medical.
02:44:13.000Medical does not necessarily show up in rapid pace time.
02:44:29.000If medical staff sees that there is a DNR on file, they're going to take their sweet time getting to that cell block.
02:44:35.000Because that DNR is their ticket to not having to treat him.
02:44:41.000Even if he had a 50-50 chance of making it.
02:44:43.000And that's why they're wanting the general public to sign these, because now you could be helped at the hospital, but the hospital wants $300,000 for your organs, they then don't give you treatment.
02:44:52.000Yeah, but I don't want to get off point here.
02:44:55.000So if you've got an inmate that's got a DNR, they're not going to show up fast enough, but they'll show up.
02:45:03.000So the next thing, either the medical staff is going to call, or the DOC staff is going to call an ambulance.
02:45:09.000Ambulance is going to show up, and these poor guys have no idea where they're going, and they get into the cell block anywhere from 10, 15, maybe 20, even 30 minutes later.
02:45:21.000Now, if there's no DNR on file, they're going to have to go ahead and perform life-saving measures, which is what they always do.
02:45:29.000So, if all the commotion is heard in the cell block by these other inmates, they are assuming that the guy is still alive, although these inmates are not stupid.
02:45:38.000They already know the guy is probably dead because they understand the DOC personnel better than anybody.
02:45:44.000So the guy is basically, the dead inmate is in rigor mortis, for example, and paramedics are going to take him out of there as if he was alive and breathing.
02:45:54.000And they're going to pronounce him dead either on the way to the hospital Or, at the hospital ER.
02:46:00.000And here's why I don't like the way they do this.
02:46:02.000Well, it's a form of covering up the deaths, but go ahead.
02:46:05.000Well, it's covering up the deaths, and it's not attributed to the very facility where the death occurred, and it's not attributed to the DOC.
02:46:11.000That's right, they then statistically... And when the DOC, and then, when they have to do cause and manner of death, It's always going to be, in cases like this, natural causes.
02:46:21.000And so, when we come back, we're going to continue getting into this.
02:46:26.000But I would just add, really, more than 15,000 U.S.
02:46:29.000troops have died in Iraq, but now they changed the rules seven years ago, before the war, to where if you're flown out of the country to Rammstein in Germany or to England or the U.S., and you die a day later, an hour later, a month later, From a hand grenade or a gunshot wound or whatever, or a mortar, they don't count that as a death in the combat zone as a combat-related death.
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02:50:51.000Now, there's a million facets to this, just from my own research.
02:51:02.000This is what Karen Russo, the Wrongful Death and Injury Institute, does full-time.
02:51:10.000But we've gone the prison population in 1980 from a couple hundred thousand to 4 million, and it just keeps going up and up and up. - More people in prison than any other country in the world, not just per capita, but period.
02:51:23.000And you take the Texas Youth Commission alone, little kids, junior high, high school, Public rape rooms all over the news.
02:53:09.000Now, my argument has always been, when families are so exasperated at what to do, which is, there are a whole bunch of reasons why they don't know what to do, but if you took 7.4 million, and you averaged that each family had four family members, each inmate had four family members, That, if you do the math, that's 30 million people, over 30 million people that are affected directly by incarceration.
02:53:37.000And that number is 10% of the entire U.S.
02:53:41.000population as it stands today, which is 306 million.
02:53:45.000Now, the reason I say that is that when families feel so chastised or intimidated or put down, one of the biggest problems they have is not taking responsibility for the information that's available to them in order to fight.
02:54:05.000And if they pooled their resources together, and I don't necessarily mean finances, but if they all got together under one entity, which is what we've been trying to do for the last 15 years, and you became cohesive, kind of like the MADD organization was when they first started out.
02:54:24.000You had two women, literally, Sitting across from each other at a kitchen table drinking coffee.
02:55:05.000You know, they understand how the system works, they understand how these politicians work, and they certainly understand what is said versus what is done to them.
02:55:13.000Especially when it comes to their medical health care.
02:55:17.000And folks, like you said, will say, oh, well, you know, what the heck?
02:55:20.000Why in the world do we have to pay for health care for inmates?
02:55:23.000Well, you better pay for it, because you're going to pay for it one way or the other.
02:55:27.000You're either going to pay for it in taxes, in a contract that's not doing their job, or you're going to pay for it in Medicaid and Medicare.
02:55:34.000Regardless, you can't have the moral standing of not giving people proper health care, because that creates an evil precedent in government for everybody.
02:55:49.000It's just a matter of how they're going to get it and how, you know, when is the lightbulb going to go on to the general public that you're actually paying for this?
02:55:58.000And they're not being appropriated correctly, and no one within the Department of Corrections or the contracted health care providers, and there are over 60 of them operating in the United States today.
02:56:10.000These contracted health care providers, which are public or private, ...are not being held accountable.
02:56:15.000And it's clearly getting worse as society unravels.
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02:58:16.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
02:58:19.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
03:00:12.000We've confirmed that with the wands and the searches.
03:00:15.000We also had We Are Change pop out about Luke Hradowski and other reporters being arrested for trespassing at a major hotel when they weren't told to leave.
03:00:22.000They said, stay here, and then said, we told you to leave, you wouldn't.
03:00:48.000Just a great tyranny going on in the prisons and the CPS and handicapped people, you name it.
03:00:55.000I mean, it's going all over the world.
03:00:56.000This is what government does when the good people stop getting involved and organized.
03:01:00.000So before you leave, get into how folks need to get organized and some of the powers they do have to try to rectify this, because it will only get worse if we don't.
03:01:07.000But let's get into some of the other horrors that folks aren't aware of, turning over this rock.
03:01:18.000Well, the whole modus operandi behind the Department of Corrections is cost containment.
03:01:25.000When anybody goes to their government website and pulls up the Department of Corrections budget, you're going to see an astronomical amount.
03:01:34.000That is probably one of the highest budgets within the state government that there will be, is the DOC budget.
03:01:41.000So their whole goal is to contain costs, whether it's healthcare, medical services, or food stuff.
03:01:49.000I don't think it's any news to any of your listening audience.
03:01:53.000It sure isn't any news to the inmates that the food within a prison system is about a D minus or an F.
03:01:59.000They suspect, the inmates suspect, that a lot of it is contaminated.
03:02:07.000A lot of prison facilities around the country have modified their dietary requirements to where some prisons don't even serve meat anymore. - Sure.
03:02:23.000So you have some issues there that clearly affect health overall.
03:02:27.000And one area that it affects tremendously is that of diabetes.
03:02:32.000And I don't think it's any news to all of you too that diabetics have to really monitor what they eat.
03:02:44.000As such, the majority of these individuals, if they have outside family members that put money on their accounts, which allow them to go to the commissary and buy other foods that are more conducive to maintaining their diabetic blood sugar levels, they will opt to go to a commissary rather than eat in the chow line.
03:03:06.000For inmates that do not have anybody To put money on their accounts.
03:03:10.000They are forced to eat the food in the prison.
03:03:14.000And what that does, they get extremely obese.
03:03:17.000Their blood sugar levels go off the charts.
03:03:19.000The blood sugar levels in a prison setting, the average is anywhere from 200 to 550.
03:03:26.000And that is considered normal for State Departments of Correction Medical Health Care Units.
03:03:34.000So if an inmate falls out from a coma or a diabetic coma, They're going to attribute it, always, in the medical record, it's going to be the inmate's fault for not maintaining a healthy and proper diet.
03:04:24.000I mean, I just happen to know that more and more they're feeding him soy that has the estrogen mimickers and that's causing him to grow breasts, become very unhealthy, and all the problems that that causes.
03:04:34.000Well, it does, but you know, and here's the other thing.
03:04:37.000Well, on the point of that, if inmates suspect this, And they have verifiable proof, or somebody's told them, and you really don't even have to have proof.
03:04:49.000All one has to do, if I'm an inmate, is I'm going to contact somebody on the outside, preferably a family member, and this is why family members become so important.
03:04:59.000They have the skill and the ability and the information in front of them to go after these contracts.
03:05:06.000These prisons have contracts with everything.
03:05:10.000Nothing happens in that prison without a contract.
03:05:12.000And the same thing goes for the food stuff.
03:05:14.000So if somebody suspects that soy is being delivered to the inmate population at an unbelievable rate and the soy may be contaminated itself, all one has to do is access the contract through the Department of Corrections and request a copy of it.
03:05:32.000So, rather than have question marks around everything that happens with an inmate, which is what we do with our clients and the families, Damn, if you're telling me that your loved one suspects that we've got contaminated food on the shelf and they're being fed this and it hasn't changed in six months, let's go get the contract and see if it has been.
03:05:50.000Let's explain why that happens a lot throughout history.
03:05:52.000You've got big corporations that have jumped, they can't sell the stores, but they'll do little side deals, there's lots of corruption and payoffs that have come out in the news, and they'll sell it and force it on the inmates.
03:06:16.000Alright, let's go over this though in the time we have.
03:06:18.000You brought up factor VIII being a big issue.
03:06:20.000Knowing they had HIV and Hepatitis, letting them give the blood, not once a month like they're supposed to, but every week, and then somehow drugs are getting into the prison from the jail guards and others, so there's a business within there.
03:06:31.000It's all they've got to sell is blood, and then people get AIDS from it.
03:06:35.000I mean, this is insane, and I'm sure in all your research, you've run into all the news reports about medical testing, where these are ignorant inmates, or they need money, and they say, oh, we've got medical experiments we'll do on you if you do this.
03:06:46.000Do you have anything on that, or more on Factor VIII?
03:06:50.000Yes, on the medical experiments, and I do not have the data in front of me to tell you statistics on that.
03:07:01.000But, in order to have that done, inmates have got to sign off on stuff.
03:07:05.000You know, they're going to have to sign forms.
03:07:08.000And if they don't sign forms, then that's cause for alarm.
03:07:12.000I'm going to make a conjecture here that very few inmates are going to succumb to some kind of a medical experiment without signing a form.
03:07:21.000No, no, they have them do that, but the food they can't eat, so they say, do this, and we'll give you easy labor, we'll give you good food.
03:07:27.000Well, you know, that's on the inmates.
03:07:30.000And I'm not going to, that's almost a wasted argument, only from the standpoint is As I said before, inmates aren't stupid.
03:07:38.000They know how to live, they know how to survive within a prison setting, far beyond what any person out here in society knows how to do.
03:07:44.000And we can't even imagine what they have to go through, we can only guess.
03:07:48.000Because we're not going to be told, and very few inmates want to talk about it.
03:07:52.000So, I'm real hesitant to say, oh golly gee whiz, the government's really taking advantage of these people.
03:09:36.000In your state, for example, the Pew Foundation is working on a deal with the Texas Department of Corrections and your state politicians, trying to figure out ways to cut costs and let some of these inmates that are in there for petty crimes loose.
03:09:56.000Now, the problem is, in order to cut those costs, the Board of Probation and Parole has got to come on board and agree with them.
03:10:05.000And guess what your state Board of Probation and Parole has said they're going to do.
03:10:11.000They're not going to reroute their guidelines.
03:10:13.000They're not going to change their guidelines.
03:10:15.000So what that tells me, because they're refusing to change the guidelines for release, somebody in the statistical world is going to start, as they always do, determining in cycles when prisons need to be built, when juvenile detention centers need to be built, and when high schools need to be built.
03:10:33.000Because they're going to take a certain percentage of the population between a certain age group to determine when that population is going to hit that key mark of whether it's 17 to 22 or 17 to 23, when they have the propensity to offend the highest.
03:11:37.000And so they're going to make more laws for more of us in prison, and then feed us poison.
03:11:41.000Now expanding on that, you keep talking about your state, your state, we're on in many states all over the country, but I am sitting in the capital of Austin, Texas, while the legislature is in session.
03:11:52.000And Texas is, for those that don't know, the U.S.
03:11:55.000is the capital of prisons in the world, but Texas is the king.
03:13:01.000I'm sure you heard about the Thule in Texas case, where they grabbed 56 black people with no drugs or planted them on them and knew they were innocent, to literally put them in the town prison because that was the only business?
03:13:30.000You know, without those inmates in there, they can't open those doors.
03:13:33.000And people need to remember, correctional staff doesn't run these prisons, these inmates run it.
03:13:39.000Without these inmates doing the work, they don't stay awake.
03:13:43.000And God forbid that we actually shut some prisons, you know, the factories can close, everything else can go bankrupt, all the shops can close, but you will just have prisons and police and troops marching up and down the street, and that's the new economy we're converting into.
03:14:05.000These guys, these corporations, are just unrelentless.
03:14:12.000They give the facade of healthcare without giving it, and they put roadblocks after roadblocks in front of these inmates and play with them as far as What they're required to do in the prison system, form-wise, and absolutely, categorically, premeditatedly denying them the adequate health care that they're presenting themselves with.
03:14:35.000The VA's doing that, and now Obama's announced, Associated Press, that he wanted the troops to pay for their own health care.
03:14:41.000Oh, yeah, and you know, I really, I do believe, if this health care thing pans out the way everybody says it's going to, which I think is a real possibility, I wrote Something a while back that says, just prison health care for everybody.
03:14:57.000Because that's what it's going to end up like.
03:14:58.000See, I didn't read your writing, but that's what I know.
03:15:00.000Everything is converting to this, here's an aspirin for your heart attack, here's your government, here's your government paid for health care, and then the corporations just keep all the money.
03:15:10.000That's their socialized health care, yeah.
03:15:20.000Our consulting is you've got to learn how to do it and to learn how to do it you're really going to have to commit your time and your resources Um, in order to fight for the inmate because they cannot do it on their own.
03:15:33.000Well, my father's thought about even getting out of dentistry and oral surgery because with the new federal rules and all of it, you know, they have computers now just like the regular doctors and the person has an HMO or insurance, it tells you what you can do and he says it's totally illegal.
03:15:49.000He caused a big stink and his company and sent some letters to the state and you pointed out this is a violation of state law and federal law that the computers are practicing medicine now and then stopped it but most of the doctors and just bow down yes yes whatever the government says oh my god i love you well i really think that's what people are headed for and everybody that thought that obama's deal with such a great idea a lot of my clients fit that mold
03:16:15.000They're fast finding out that what they thought was bad health care is fixing to get a whole bunch worse.
03:16:22.000And those inmates are going to get it worse than they already have it, which is bad enough.
03:16:26.000And we're going to get a taste of what they've been getting.
03:16:34.000And the prescription drug companies are right up there with them.
03:16:38.000And you're right when you said in your comment earlier, if they can drug these guys up 23 out of 24, It's a lot easier to manage them.
03:16:45.000And then when they get cut loose, when they get released, they're handed basically a Ziploc bag of psychotropic and prescription drugs that they cannot afford.
03:16:54.000So when they run out of that Ziploc bag, the only thing they know to do since they've been become, courtesy of your state DOC and your prison health care contract, prescription drug addicts, the only thing that they know to do is get the money in order to get the drugs that they have got to be on.
03:17:10.000And there we go with the revolving door.
03:17:15.000We're going to come back in a final segment with you and tell folks how they can get involved with you, support you, learn how to defend themselves, learn how to fight this corrupt system.
03:17:24.000On the other side of this quick break, again, I'm Alex Jones, InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, JonesReport.com are the websites.
03:17:32.000Our guest is Karen Russo, the Wrongful Death and Injury Institute, and we'll give you her website, WrongfulDeathInstitute.com.
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03:20:53.000While the unions are big business fans, and they're going out like dinosaurs.
03:21:01.000While they used to grow food in Kansas, then they want to grow down the moon to eat raw.
03:21:13.000I can see the day coming when even your home garden is going to be against the law.
03:21:19.000You know, a side issue, and people that know about this building once understand it.
03:21:24.000It was a radio talk show host who contacted me and interviewed me several times.
03:21:30.000Asked to do a show on Genesis and said, fine.
03:21:32.000He posted a link to something saying, basically said I may have murdered William Cooper.
03:21:36.000And when I called him up, he started yelling and cussing at me, and I said, you know, this is very destructive, this is not nice.
03:21:42.000What you're doing, you know, uh, just sit there and talk about my family and lies and all this, sort of yelling and cussing at me, and then I heard him go to speakerphone and I said, oh, you got somebody listening, you want me to yell at you now?
03:21:51.000And I didn't say any of the things he said here.
03:21:53.000Thank God I had witnesses here in studio while I was on the phone.
03:21:56.000We've had somebody try this before, so I'm going to take legal action against this.
03:22:08.000Uh, so, um, I got so many other things to do, so much other work to do, but at this point, I just have to defend myself and my name.
03:22:18.000Um, just amazing, and it is a crime to file false police reports if this person's done what they said they've done.
03:22:24.000I mean, it's just, it's jealousy has gone to a rampant new level with the Obama deception, the fact that we're breaking out internationally, everything we're doing.
03:22:32.000But we will not be silenced, we will not be stopped with all the things that have gone on.
03:22:54.000See, that's how the schizophrenic, I guess that's what it is, mind does these type of things and then twists them.
03:22:59.000So, people finally want the gloves to come off.
03:23:03.000The groups that no doubt will put this on to attack me more, you will be served.
03:23:08.000Full money, full lawsuits, just because you plan to, with malice of forethought, put out false information to do me harm has been said the definition of slander and libel uh... so just everybody's on notice for that and uh... this other stuff, but I have to continue, I don't want this to become a big distraction or diversion for everything we're doing you know with my guests, you know what I'm talking about, only folks that know about this will be aware of it, I'm not going to discuss it any further
03:23:36.000I may not be on the air a few days this week because I've got to go prepare suits that's to be done properly with law firms.
03:23:41.000It takes a lot of time, a lot of energy to do it right.
03:23:45.000A lot of mental illness out there and I've got to counter it and defend my family.
03:23:49.000Listen, I want to thank you Karen Russo for coming on the show.
03:23:53.000I want to thank you for spending time with us.
03:23:55.000If folks want to learn more about the institute you run and people trying to get their rights back, how do they do that?
03:24:01.000They can contact us through the website which you've graciously given them and they can call us at 816-941-0087.
03:24:07.000I really would encourage them, families especially, if you've got a loved one in prison to contact us because there are certain documents that you need to have on file in order to fight for that inmate that 95% of them do not have on file.
03:24:25.000And if you've got generated forms from the prison system that you think are there for that reason, I can almost bet you they're not accurate and they're not adequate.
03:24:40.000The other way they can learn about it, there's a book coming out that I've written at the beginning of the summer called Fighting for Life.
03:24:50.000That it basically teaches families how to do, uh, basically 20 years of what I'm doing.
03:26:02.000No one is going to take care of your family in the final equation but you.
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