Join Alex Jones as he goes live from Austin, Texas, and is joined by Wayne Madsen, a reporter with the National Security Agency, and Dr. Mike Skinner, a scientist at the Imperial College in London, as they discuss the swine flu, genetically engineered bioweapon.
00:01:01.000International press TV all over the world, which is basically Iranian television.
00:01:08.000It's similar to what the Saudis have with Al Jazeera, and seen by millions of people.
00:01:13.000So we're going to be simulcasting with them as they ask my take on what's happening with the so-called swine flu, this genetically engineered two-bird viruses.
00:01:24.000Pig virus and human virus all spliced together with the genetic markers that it's been engineered.
00:01:28.000So they'll be popping in in a moment, getting ready for the interview, and I'll turn things over to them as we multitask here and do this.
00:01:57.000You were so hard to get, you know, to be in our show.
00:02:02.000It was really great and we are so willing to have you with us.
00:02:05.000You know, we are going to start at about, you know, in four minutes and just we have got the news brief and after the news brief you're going to start.
00:02:14.000And I have got Dr. Mike Skinner, the Senior Lecturer in Virology, Imperial College London, and you.
00:02:49.000Even though shadowed with a spark of controversy, the meetings between Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso and his counterpart went just for 15 seconds.
00:04:14.000to the satellite studio but I am here and I'm just gonna throw it to your feed and I will be here interviewed by you and thank you so much for having me on.
00:04:29.000They're going to send us their feed here in just a moment, and we'll get rolling.
00:04:35.000There can be complications with each national visit.
00:04:38.000Sometimes it will greatly improve bilateral relations if it's successful, but other times, because some Japanese still feel hostility towards China and vice versa, they'll act out against efforts to improve the relationship around that visit.
00:04:54.000Hey guys, Google me the Indonesian President saying it's a bio-weapon.
00:05:01.000Discussions not only covered economic and regional security issues, but also the rapidly growing threat of swine flu or the H1N1 virus.
00:05:09.000It has yet to hit either country, but the two sides talked about the importance of cooperative surveillance.
00:05:15.000It was also the third meeting with Chinese state leaders in a month, following his meetings with President Hu Jintao in London and with Wen Jiabao in Thailand.
00:06:45.000World countries are scrambling to contain a rapidly expanding swine flu case that's assumed pandemic proportions, according to the World Health Organization, WHO.
00:07:14.000The first cases were reported in Mexico earlier in April, when a new strain of swine-based influenza virus was reported breaking out, taking an initial few lives.
00:07:26.000The actual outbreak of the killer disease, however, is believed to have started in March 2009.
00:07:33.000Whatever the case, on April 29th, and in an emergency meeting of the WHO, a pandemic alert status of 5 was announced for the spread, calling it an imminent threat to everyone in the world.
00:07:47.000By April 28th, the mutated flu virus was confirmed to have spread to the United States, the United Kingdom, continental Europe, and as far away as New Zealand.
00:07:59.000As of April 30th, the number of countries with suspected cases stands at 41.
00:08:05.000While there is no vaccine available at the moment for the disease and measures to come up with one... We are simulcasting with international television listeners.
00:10:26.000Relatively few cases outside of Mexico at the moment which have been documented and well documented.
00:10:34.000Whereas the situation in Mexico is unclear simply because it's been the point of outbreak of course.
00:10:42.000It's likely that many cases occurred and were maybe relatively mild before we realized that we were dealing with a potential pandemic situation.
00:10:53.000So, because of that, it's not clear how severe this disease is going to be in terms of its mortality.
00:11:01.000Its ability to spread seems fairly self-evident, although even there we need to know more information and that will become apparent in coming days and weeks as we see how much it spreads in the countries where it has been introduced.
00:11:18.000I'm obviously not a medical expert nor a scientist, but then what happened in a matter of a few days that the WHO raised the alert status bar a couple of degrees higher from level or phase 2 to phase 5?
00:11:33.000There must be some clear and evident reason for that?
00:11:38.000There are clear criteria for each of the stages.
00:11:41.000What you have to remember is that here, when we're talking about a pandemic, the main definition is its ability to spread.
00:11:50.000It's not definitely tied in with the disease that it causes.
00:11:57.000And in this case, it was shown to move up to a five, which occurred last night.
00:12:04.000And Alex Jones, now tell me about the immediate dimensions to this issue.
00:12:09.000transmission in two countries in one region, and Mexico and U.S., the situation there, qualified to raise it up to five.
00:12:21.000And Alex Jones, now tell me about the immediate dimensions to this issue.
00:12:26.000Now, have, in your sense, the issue of the threat been blown out of proportion, exaggerated in some sort?
00:12:36.000Well, we're not sure at this time, and I agree with much of what the doctor just said.
00:12:41.000I've interviewed six different doctors, several virologists, myself, since last Friday when we began covering this in earnest, and here's what we know.
00:12:50.00035,000 Americans die on average a year, as many Mexicans die of just the normal seasonal flus that come from the east, and then we have the flu season that just ended a month ago, so it's very rare to have a new flu This time of year, coming out of the Western Hemisphere.
00:13:09.000Then we even have the fact that it's multiple bird RNA, human RNA, pig RNA.
00:13:16.000They're saying some other RNA in there.
00:13:19.000A lot of bioweapons experts and others are in the international media saying this looks like a designer virus.
00:13:25.000Wayne Madsen, who worked with the National Security Agency, has been in the press interviewing members of Who have degrees in virology, doctorates saying it looks like it's engineered.
00:13:37.000So later I would like to ask the doctor that.
00:13:40.000I'm in Texas and just south of me is where they had the first Texas outbreaks and I know high-level school administrators, known to me personally, who yesterday gave me secret documents reporting that they're really at a level six.
00:13:56.000Now they told me I mean, I hope this isn't a deadly virus.
00:13:58.000We were really at level five before they announced it.
00:14:01.000Level six is complete and total martial law.
00:14:05.000So this I mean, I hope this isn't a deadly virus.
00:14:08.000I hope it doesn't have 40 to 50 percent infection rate of people that come in contact with it.
00:14:16.000In fact, they have the terms here, uh, in the, uh, document.
00:14:19.000The clinical attack rate is 40 to 50 percent.
00:14:22.000They're saying people are really on ventilators, uh, all over Texas and that it's, uh, far worse.
00:14:27.000So Biden's saying don't get on, uh, planes, don't get on subways.
00:14:31.000The vice president is basically saying what this secret document Alright, now back to you in London, Dr. Skinner.
00:14:39.000So the government in its actions is in the Mexican government to shut down the government.
00:14:43.000They're acting like it's the end of the world.
00:14:53.000Now, back to you in London, Dr. Skinner.
00:14:54.000Now, the other guest was purporting that there is an engineered crisis in the offing that this virus, just might happen to be a syncretic and synthetically made virus and the outbreak as well.
00:15:12.000Now, do you have any scientific argument to rebut that or debunk that?
00:15:17.000I don't think you need particularly a scientific argument.
00:15:21.000It's well known that flu changes, mutates from year to year, from season to season.
00:15:30.000You can begin to track down, even at this stage, having had relatively little time to study the virus, You can begin to track down, even at this stage, with having had relatively little time to study the virus, the sequence of events which has probably taken place over almost a decade to get to the stage that the sequence of events which has probably taken place over almost a decade And one has to say, and let's face it, the same argument was made many years ago about the origins of HIV, that it was a genetically engineered virus.
00:16:00.000And in both cases, you have to say that, given that we don't really understand the pathogenicity of this present virus, how pathogenic it will be, what might contribute to its particular nature.
00:16:13.000But Dr. Skinner, with great respect, I beg to differ, Dr. Skinner, and this is still keeping with you now, Now, now, is it not true that in the past, 30 odd years ago, there was this hoax of a
00:16:30.000Uh, the flu scare in the States, I suppose it was in 1976, and this, in all intellectual rigor, brings in the question that some people put to you guys, as scientists, that how trustable are these procedures... Yeah, I'd like to comment.
00:16:45.000...ethnologically speaking, in terms of identifying, determining an epidemic.
00:17:08.000I'm sorry, can you place your question again?
00:17:11.000The question was, in the past, in 1976, the American authorities clearly bungled up a crisis of sorts in terms of saying to the people that there is a pandemic of flu, and then it turned out to be mistaken.
00:17:32.000What happened, I think you remember, and it was many years ago, even in my scientific career, was that in 76, that they discovered, again, a swine flu in the US, and that seemed to be causing problems.
00:17:51.000It came out of an army camp, and I don't think there was any... Yeah, it always does.
00:19:32.000I'm not saying this is a government attack.
00:19:34.000I'm not saying that we know that right now.
00:19:36.000It could be a real mutated flu like he just said, but it's the fact that it came out of nowhere and they weren't tracking anything similar to it.
00:19:43.000As he said, it would take years for it to mutate like this.
00:19:46.000This just came screaming out of nowhere.
00:19:48.000The only place we see something similar to this is in the hundreds of big biotech labs where they're basically cloning.
00:19:54.000Let's get back to you in a little while.
00:20:12.000No, I can't say that's in my area of expertise.
00:20:18.000You're seeing, I think, generally a reasonable approach around the world that have been caused to clamp down completely on air travel, and I think the responses are generally responsible.
00:20:32.000We've recognized that that would be counterproductive, and I think most countries are taking quite a rational approach to try and control the focal introductions of the virus into their countries to try and stop it spreading to building and I think most countries are taking quite a rational approach to try and A large epidemic.
00:20:53.000At the moment, we have the benefit of the time of the year, at least in the Northern Hemisphere, where it's not the time of year we would expect seasonal flu to normally spread well, and we can hope that with careful control of the introduction in the Northern Hemisphere, we'll be able to probably stop Dr. Skinner, how long before we actually get there do you think?
00:21:21.000Your prediction is that we can contain it, if not confront it?
00:21:25.000I don't think one can be into that kind of a game.
00:21:38.000I think we have a good chance to limit it.
00:21:43.000It's not rushing out of control in some of the European countries.
00:21:48.000It's been introduced but it can go wrong and we have to be on top of it.
00:21:54.000This is why people do need to know what's happening.
00:21:58.000I think a lot of the reporting has been pretty responsible.
00:22:01.000People need to know that there is this threat.
00:22:05.000If they have been to areas where they might have been exposed to the virus then they need to know that if they come up with appropriate symptoms they need to alert the authorities.
00:22:16.000Well, I mean if this isn't a bit... Tell me about the ramifications, political ones, and specifically the impact that this crisis will have on global trade on the back of a huge slump in world economy.
00:22:33.000The Mexican government knows, quote, shutting down all its resorts, telling Americans and Europeans to leave, uh, shutting down their government, uh, you know, their actions say that they think this is really bad, but then they say everything's fine, everything's wonderful, we're just shutting our whole country down.
00:22:49.000You know, they normally have 20 plus thousand or more die of flu.
00:22:54.000Second, uh, for you guys to, uh, check, uh, sound and audio quality.
00:22:58.000Doc, if I could, uh, uh, move on with another dimension.
00:23:04.000Okay, but I mean, this will destroy our economy.
00:23:06.000The government is destroying our economy.
00:23:08.000because you asked a question and now you're choppy Dr. Jones yes okay you are not down here right now because there is another maybe phone line or we can hear other sounds Maybe for another show, whatever.
00:23:24.000Yeah, well that's not us, uh, so, uh, yeah, I mean, there's also feedback from your line.
00:23:31.000Okay, oh, oh, maybe you have got a TV out there, yeah?
00:23:34.000No, no, we're not sending any audio out or down.
00:23:37.000You guys have got a, you guys have got a feedback loop, uh, you're feeding me too much of your audio.
00:27:43.000And then I just read to you the bombshell documents.
00:27:47.000And maybe none of my audio was even getting good to him, because he kept interrupting me when I would just start talking for a few seconds.
00:27:52.000We'll see, though, in the press TV video later, so I need you to grab that and throw it up on YouTube.
00:28:00.000Okay, I've got a bunch of guests coming up, and I do have some time in this hour before Lindsey Williams joins us when we talk about flu, the economy.
00:28:11.000What is this going to do to the economy?
00:28:12.000And he was asking me, what is this going to do to the economy?
00:28:15.000The Iranian presenter was saying, what is this going to do to the economy?
00:28:17.000Well, I mean, gee, the pesos have fallen massively in the last couple of days in Mexico.
00:28:22.000The Chinese and other governments are openly dumping dollars and buying real assets and then buying commodities like gold, silver, copper, and other raw material.
00:28:31.000If they say don't get on planes and don't get on trains and freeze all of your basic commuting, we're in a confined space and they're shutting down schools all over the United States and all the schools in Mexico.
00:28:42.000Gee, what is that going to do to terrorism?
00:28:56.000Now, it's bad enough what it's doing to the economy, it's bad enough what it's doing to our name around the world, it's bad enough the vaccines people are going to take that are going to mess them up big time, they'll just sweep that under the rug like a swine flu desk in 76.
00:29:10.000But if this sucker's real, if what we're confirming with doctors and others, and by confirming, we're getting this from sources in Mexico, the U.S., everywhere, I have internal documents now up on PrisonPlanet.com, and the story Paul Watson wrote, Texas doctor claims swine flu case is far worse than reported.
00:29:28.000country now at level 6 and uh... we'll recap this when we get back and take some phone calls 1-800-259-9231 for your reports on your area specifically mexico or texas or california places hard to sit by this military checkpoints things like that only when I witness reports 1-800-259-9231 if you're stoned and all you know high call of amen I don't want that this is serious business this is big boy pants time we'll be right back put big boy pants on
00:31:32.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:31:34.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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00:33:45.000The They'll usually just shut down a few hospitals and fearmonger.
00:33:50.000This is military running around, police state checkpoints, saying we're under U.N.
00:33:54.000control in mainstream news articles, the vice president coming out and saying don't fly, don't move, and Mexico's totally shut down.
00:34:03.000They'll hyperventilate and scare people, but never really shut anything down.
00:34:07.000Maybe one hospital room or something, and go around hyperventilating and saying, don't worry, we've got shots and, you know, we've got medicine for you.
00:34:14.000By the way, coming up next is, you know, half the sponsor ads of the group they're pushing during the news.
00:34:20.000And there's just hundreds of billions of dollars in this fear-mongering every time they do it.
00:34:24.000So that's a motive, and reportedly not many people have died.
00:34:28.000Regular flu kills a lot more than this.
00:34:32.000But why this incredible, overblown response?
00:34:35.000And then I have this document out of Texas from 36 hours ago, and this thing came through then, we just hadn't seen it until then, and it's talking about we're not at a level 5, we're at a level 6.
00:34:50.000And saying they're going to go to a level 5, and this was before they even said we were at a level 5.
00:34:57.000They're saying we're not at level 5, we're at level 6.
00:34:59.000And then we went to level 5 yesterday.
00:35:01.000And then Biden's out saying, well go ahead and play the clip, here he is.
00:35:09.000I would tell members of my family, and I have, I wouldn't go anywhere in confined places now.
00:35:14.000It's not that it's going to Mexico, it's you're in a confined aircraft, when one person sneezes, it goes all the way through the aircraft.
00:35:22.000I would not be at this point, if they had another way of transportation, suggesting they ride the subway.
00:35:28.000So, from my perspective, what it relates to is mitigation.
00:35:32.000If you're out in the middle of a field and someone sneezes, that's one thing.
00:35:35.000If you're in a closed aircraft, a closed container, a closed car, a closed classroom, it's a different thing.
00:35:43.000So there you have Joe Biden, or Beedon as Paul Watson likes to call him, Mr. Beady Eyes.
00:35:51.000Now listen, if this turns out, this is the perfect hoax for them because if it doesn't turn out to be as deadly as they're hyping, they just say, well we were trying to keep you safe.
00:35:59.000And then they'll give you the vaccine, people will drop dead from that.
00:36:11.000I mean, it's way down the list of cancers.
00:36:15.000And it's usually people that are run down, have HIV, that get this opportunistic cancer virus, that it infects them.
00:36:25.000And then they tell girls they need to take it, boys need to take it, and they take it and they drop dead, and they have autoimmune responses.
00:36:33.000And they're setting the precedent for this.
00:36:35.000I want to go over some of this really big UN news, okay?
00:36:39.000This is out of the British news, out of TGDaily.com.
00:36:52.000and uh... it says a pandemic scares failed to match up to reality and then it uh... goes on from there it says a draft report of the federal government's emergency plan predicts that as many as two hundred million americans could be infected and two hundred million could die within a few months the bird flu came to the united states he said and it says once again uh... things weren't so bad at the end
00:37:21.000After all, in 2006, when the outbreak appeared to have died down, the number of cases reported by the World Health Organization had reached 228, of whom 130 died.
00:37:31.000I left my phone in here and it's ringing up against the wall.
00:38:06.000Now, Jason Burmess read this last night.
00:38:11.000This is the United Nations directive to the governments, and we have the Reuters article where Mr. Moon, the head of the UN, Secretary General, is saying that they're now controlling and running the operation, telling the United States and Homeland Security what to do.
00:38:25.000Supreme Court comes out in the USA Today and says they follow the orders of the Hague and the Netherlands.
00:38:35.000Uh, it says, uh, ensure that mechanisms exist for information sharing between national authorities who and United Nations agencies coordinate with their use.
00:38:44.000Existing mechanisms set up with implementation of the International Health Regulators.
00:38:48.0001.5, legal ethical issues, compulsory vaccination, or implementation of emergency shifts of essential services.
00:38:56.000Travel or movement restrictions, leaving and entering areas where infections are established, closure of educational institutions, prohibition of mass gatherings, isolation of quarantined and infected persons or persons suspected of being infected, or persons from areas where pandemic strains of influenza are established.
00:39:14.000Ethical issues, they are part of the non- Normative framework that is needed to assess the cultural acceptability of measures such as quarantine or selected vaccination of predefined risk groups.
00:39:28.000And it gets into compulsory inoculation.
00:40:01.000To have uniform policy that is endorsed by all officials.
00:40:04.000It is essential to know who is in charge of different activities with communicable disease control and how that might change if a limited outbreak becomes a major emergency.
00:40:13.000Who is making decisions for the influence of the pandemic?
00:40:15.000The Prime Minister, the President, the Ministry of Health, the Departments.
00:40:18.000A command and control structure should be in place outlining the management decision-making process of all organizations involved in the health emergency including and now they've announced it's the UN in control of this.
00:40:28.000You can go read all about that from the UN.
00:40:31.000Here's WorldNet Daily by Jerome Corsi back in August 28, 2007, headline, U.S.
00:40:58.000It says, the Secretary of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North American Summit in Canada released a plan to establish UN law along with regulations for the World Trade Organization, World Health Organization, Supreme, over U.S.
00:41:09.000law during a pandemic that sets the state for militarizing the management of continental health emergencies.
00:41:15.000The North American plan for avian and pandemic influenza was finalized at the SPP Summit last week in Montebello, Quebec.
00:41:23.000Northern Command NORTHCOM has created a webpage dedicated to the avian flu, has been running exercises in preparation for the possible use of U.S.
00:41:29.000military forces in a continental domestic emergency involving avian flu and pandemic influenza.
00:41:33.000With virtually no media attention, in 2005, President Bush shifted U.S.
00:41:36.000policy on avian flu and pandemic influenza, placing the country under international guidelines not specifically determined.
00:41:45.000And it goes on to say that they'll use foreign assets.
00:41:47.0002005 when President Bush announced a new international partnership with the avian and pandemic influenza to a high-level meeting of the UN General Assembly in New York.
00:43:46.000But when they start coming out and saying, don't travel, don't get on buses, trains, airplanes, subways, you know, When they start coming out and we get internal documents from the state saying we're really at level six, people are on ventilators, this is killing as many people as it is Mexicans, this is, this infects.
00:44:01.000If you come in contact with it, you get 40 to 50 percent of the people get it, normally 10 percent to 15 percent, you know, saying, oh, this is, we've never seen this in our lifetimes, oh my god, the feds tell us it's the end of the world.
00:44:14.000I'm really sick of the new world order, aren't you?
00:44:17.000There's another one, press release put out by, uh, Adventist, the big vaccine maker.
00:44:25.000Health infrastructure is and is eager to support Mexico's exemplary commitment to public health through influenza immunization and pandemic readiness.
00:44:38.000And it says a local approach to global health.
00:44:44.000Got the CNN attacking us, saying we're a conspiracy theorist website, pointing towards government involvement.
00:44:50.000Let's play Wayne Madsen that's coming up in an hour and fifteen minutes.
00:44:59.000We're going to roll the video on our side, so PrisonPlanet.tv viewers can see this as well.
00:45:04.000Here's Wayne Madsen, formerly with the NSA, reporting from Washington.
00:45:08.000An investigative journalist from Washington, Wayne Madsen, says the outbreak of the virus is raising suspicion.
00:45:16.000I spoke to two journalists, one from Mexico City and the other one from Jakarta, Indonesia, and of course Indonesia had a problem not long ago with bird flu.
00:45:25.000Both these journalists have been in touch with UN and World Health Organization officials, including a scientist who's dealt with Ebola virus and HIV/AIDS in Africa, and it's their conclusion, these scientists who they've spoken to, that this is a very unusual form of flu because it looks like it that this is a very unusual form of flu because it looks like it is a product The flu contains elements of bird flu, two forms of human flu, and various forms of swine flu.
00:45:54.000To them, it doesn't look like this is naturally occurring.
00:45:57.000The other thing is the target for this flu, as opposed to other flus, it's not the very young and the very old.
00:46:04.000It's people between the ages of 20 and 45.
00:46:08.000And the other thing is, people are not contracting this from pigs.
00:46:12.000The National Pork Council here in America says pigs are not being affected.
00:46:16.000This is human-to-human contact, so people who either eat pork or are exposed to pigs are not getting this flu.
00:46:22.000Very unusual, and of course the scientists are very alarmed by the way it's being spread and the speed at which it's being spread.
00:46:56.000And Horowitz is saying, and I've never seen him be wrong yet, I hope he's wrong, it's got some kind of insect thing hanging off the end of it so it can spread even better.
00:47:04.000So it can latch on to things with its RNA and get into their DNA and the animals.
00:47:32.000This is from a doctor, where it broke out, in South Central Texas, in New Braunfels, and he's in here, and he was at the meeting with the Feds, and they're saying the clinical attack rate may be 40-50%, when it's normally only 10-15%.
00:49:15.000I'm not going to review all of the great info that's already been discussed as far as origins and composition and where it's going, but a couple of things that haven't been introduced into the conversation.
00:49:27.000Number two, you said that you first reported this last Friday, didn't you?
00:49:32.000We've been talking about it since last week, and Quayle said on Monday this was going to be it, and he had the intel they were going to do something in the next couple weeks.
00:49:43.000Thursday, April 23rd, was the beginning of the big May ratings sweeps period for all the TV news stations.
00:49:50.000And I think it's... Yeah, and they're making money off the flu, medicine, and the vaccines, and it's a distraction for the government.
00:49:55.000They always do this crap concerted, just like 9-11.
00:49:58.000I mean, Sean Hannity started his show right before 9-11.
00:50:26.000How many times have I said they would do bigger and bigger beta tests?
00:50:30.000Hundreds dead, thousands dead, millions dead, and then they're just... And then after they train us all to lock down and do what we're told, and, oh, the government's our friend, and they're just gonna hit you with a Zykronian-12 that just kills everybody.
00:50:39.000And all you foreign troops that are bivouacked around our country, it's time to pack it up and go back to where you came from, because you don't want to take us on.
00:52:30.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
00:52:32.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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01:01:52.000And then I've got this internal stuff out of Texas, with the Health Department, saying we're really at level six, there's people on ventilators, and half the people that come in contact with this get it, and it's so incredibly deadly, and oh my God, we've never had something like this in our lifetime.
01:02:05.000Let's take a call before Lindsay Williams gets on with us.
01:02:09.000Let's talk to Tim in Kansas, and Kathy, Mark, Robert, and others.
01:03:29.000I have just found out the globalist handbook.
01:03:31.000There are a lot of famous cases where a bank robber will leave his plan to rob a bank in the diner and they find it and then bust him.
01:03:38.000We just found their plan and they plan to stage attacks until they get us in a police state grid and then launch the real attacks to exterminate the majority of us.
01:03:46.000You know, the bankers plan to implode the economy by design to bring in tyranny.
01:03:50.000All of this is going on, so I don't know what to say and do.
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01:04:06.000And the same big banks that funded Lenin and Stalin and Hitler and Mao and Pol Pot On record, are running things and mean to break the back of the world and bring in world government.
01:04:17.000This is military conquest through economics and bio-warfare.
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01:09:27.000The governor is trying to safeguard 600,000 doses of the Tamiflu, which is stored, which we talked about earlier in the show, which is being stored over, I think, at that location.
01:09:51.000It's possible that there's been an infection in the county that has Bryan and College Station in it as well, and that DPS is going to be deployed to pharmacies to protect the valuable serum.
01:10:05.000Well, that's that cabbage patch doll thing.
01:10:08.000Where they would hire companies, toy companies around Christmas to stage PR events with a fake fight in front of cameras.
01:10:26.000Remember in Indiana, when the Illinois came and said with a county official, and I talked to him and confirmed it was a real interview, we want to know about mass graves.
01:11:46.000And months before that, privately, you had inside sources.
01:11:49.000You worked with some of the biggest oil companies up there as their chaplain for years when they discovered larger oil deposits than they have in Saudi Arabia.
01:11:59.000Now it's been admitted to in the press that they have that all locked up.
01:12:04.000But then you got threatened to stop, your video was number one on YouTube and Google for months, literally tens of millions of views, exposing how there was plenty of fuel.
01:12:14.000And so they called you up and said, look, we're going to drop the price to bankrupt the Russians, the Arabs, and everybody else, and the Venezuelans.
01:12:19.000Since you said that, It was at $150 a barrel, $149 a barrel, actually at $150 one day.
01:12:32.000And now George Soros goes at the Economic Forum on TV and says they're staging it to bankrupt Russia, Venezuela, and the Arabs, just like you said, seven, eight months before him.
01:12:41.000But I wanted to get you on about the flu.
01:12:44.000That stage of it, because this person also told you, shut up or we're going to kill you about how we're doing this, but you're allowed to tell the slaves this.
01:12:50.000And that you should get out of the United States.
01:12:53.000So Lindsey Williams, I appreciate you coming on and holding the last few minutes while I gave that update.
01:12:58.000If everything else isn't going to kill our economy, the Vice President coming out and saying, don't get on airplanes or trains or subways, And the Mexican government saying close the government and close everything.
01:13:19.000Alex, I've never had so much fun being right in all my life.
01:13:23.000Now, Alex, I want to say before we go any further, I want to say congratulations and tell you about the greatest thing you have ever accomplished.
01:15:04.000And it was July the 28th that I had the privilege, for the first time, of appearing on your show and breaking the news of what I had been told by one of them, the elite, as to what their plans were.
01:15:16.000You know, I consider it such an honor and a privilege that God, by His grace, would allow Lindsey Williams, a little insignificant nobody that puts on his britches just like every other man ever wanted, to have lived with the elite of the world for three years' time And to stay in touch with some of them and know exactly what their plans are.
01:15:35.000And it's only because of this that I could appear on your show and say what was going to happen.
01:15:39.000And I'm sitting back now, watching this unfold minute by minute, exactly like they said.
01:15:46.000I sit back utterly amazed every day when I turn on the news and hear crude oil, $50.
01:16:39.000Once you ever become a part of that order of the elite, you never get out of it.
01:16:43.000And please, believe everything that you have heard on Alex Jones Show.
01:16:49.000I beg of you out there in the listening audience, you've got to believe it, even though it sounds phenomenal, way out in left field, sounds like some wacko.
01:18:30.000The Federal Reserve has purchased $70 billion in T-Bills since they began about four weeks ago.
01:18:37.000Folks, you don't have to... I don't know how you'd even comprehend that the Federal Reserve, which is not even the agency of the federal government any more than Federal Express is, Has purchased $70 billion in P-Bills in order to keep the dollar afloat, so it wouldn't crash until they get ready to go play.
01:18:53.000They're purchasing their own fiat currency.
01:18:56.000So we give them the bailout money, they loan it back to us in interest, and begin purchasing government debt themselves.
01:21:31.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:21:34.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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01:25:24.000And what is going on with him guarding, and I mean, I guess they think we're going to be like, day of the dead, going, ah, give me the Tamiflu, ah!
01:25:36.000It's the state laboratory and behind it is a pharmacy warehouse.
01:25:42.000That is what is under lock and key right now.
01:25:45.000All entrances into there are being blocked off by state troopers.
01:25:48.000And that goes, it covers from 49th Street if you go back all the way to 52nd, which does turn into North Loop, which corroborates the email that we received.
01:25:59.000And they're over there guarding it from the evil Americans.
01:26:01.000I mean, what would it take to have Americans rioting for the drugs when they admit, the Japanese government admits, it's got some weird hallucinogens in it, makes people have all sorts of psychotic breaks, it's on the drug insert, it doesn't even really help you.
01:26:34.000Oh, quick update on the Level 6 thing.
01:26:36.000I just got an email and I'm going to confirm it that CNN said we're going to go to Level 6 officially in two days, so that pretty much goes with what we've been saying.
01:26:45.000Which is exactly what the document says, so that would confirm all the other stuff.
01:26:49.000Sorry to interrupt you, Lindsey Williams, but this is happening because the same document that's about 38 hours old that we've had since yesterday, and this is confirmed from the source, in administration, in the school district here, from the state, Thank you Alex for letting me get on the subject of the swine flu.
01:27:06.000There was a doctor in Mexico City who had the vaccination.
01:27:08.000not true but if the feds are secretly hyping something and it turns out to be a lie they need to get in trouble lindsey williams thank you alex for letting me get on the subject of this line flu this is one of my pet peeves there was a doctor in mexico city who had the vaccination he died with the flu you see it's not doing any good i i i i I was hoping I didn't have to say this, but you brought the subject up, Sam.
01:27:32.000I know this is number one issue right now.
01:27:47.000The people are taking this thinking it's going to help them, and that they're going to be okay, and it is not even prepared for the swine flu.
01:27:55.000Vaccinations will not do you any good.
01:27:58.000They do not and have not had time to prepare a vaccination for the swine flu.
01:28:05.000And there is positively nothing that Homeland Security can do for it.
01:28:16.000Mexico is closing down everything, and our president hasn't got enough sense to close down our borders.
01:28:22.000I like to call it the Obama flu, really, because he's perpetrating this thing, knowing good and well that the Tamiflu vaccine is not going to do anything but make some government officials who end the business.
01:28:35.000Millions of dollars while the American people sit back and die.
01:29:28.000A one-hour presentation on vaccinations.
01:29:31.000I am so disturbed of what's happening here this week.
01:29:33.000I know I've written two books on alternative health.
01:29:35.000My main thing is crude oil, and I know from what the gentleman told me back in the middle of June what's going to happen to the finances and the crude oil and the banking and all the rest of this, but I had to... Alright, Lindsey, stay there then.
01:29:48.000We'll come back, take phone calls, talk about that.
01:29:51.000What do you see happening next in the economy in hindsight of that hour-long conversation with the former head of a major oil company?
01:29:59.000We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.
01:30:25.000I was shocked when I discovered I could be inhaling these additives that can lead to coughing, wheezing, and shortness of breath, headaches, nausea, irritation of the skin, and mucous membranes.
01:31:30.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:31:32.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
01:34:11.000It's gotta be no more Mr. Nice Guy, ladies and gentlemen.
01:34:16.000The New World Order is coming down on us and we need to start being aggressive about our liberties and our freedoms and not putting up with their tyranny.
01:34:25.000We're here Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.
01:35:36.000Now, I've got a lot of really serious news here.
01:35:40.000It's so incredible I'm having trouble even covering it.
01:35:42.000I'm going to recap that in a moment, but Lindsay Williams, I want to go to Robert, Mark, Kathy, Mary, Pastor James and others that are patiently holding from all around the country with their comments about the flu.
01:35:53.000But dealing with the economy, the government knows when they have Biden come out and say, don't get on planes, don't get on trains or subways, that this is going to cause the economy and confidence to be lost.
01:36:05.000So they'll say, everything's over, we're all in trouble, but we'll protect you, everything's fine.
01:36:09.000They scare you and then play the part of protector.
01:36:15.000Clearly they want to destroy the economies.
01:36:17.000That's what they said to you about the oil.
01:36:19.000They want to destroy all the economies.
01:36:22.000When did he tell you that they were going to stop the destruction?
01:36:26.000I guess when we're all just begging and licking the boots of the stormtroopers?
01:36:31.000Do we have to worship world government?
01:36:34.000What does it take for them to stop the raping?
01:36:38.000His remark word for word was, Chaplain, America will see a financial collapse that will be so great, and here's your time frame right here.
01:36:45.000He said it will take years for us to come out of it.
01:36:48.000Now, since you have so many new listeners, Alex, let me just very quickly say, back in June, the middle of June of 2008, I had a phone call from one of these elite that I lived with for three years' time on the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline when I was a chaplain on that pipeline, had executive status, sat in their board meetings for three years' time, My life was completely changed when I lived with the elite.
01:37:11.000I am so thankful that by the providence of God, He allowed me to have the privilege of doing what very few people on the face of the earth have ever had, and that is literally living with the elite for three years' time.
01:37:23.000And this gentleman told me back in the middle of June, he said, all of these things are going to happen.
01:37:27.000Now let me recap how they're fulfilling right now, and then I'm going to give you what can you expect.
01:37:33.000I'm going to give it to you right down the line, each of the steps.
01:37:36.000In light of what that man told me is what you can expect from this point on.
01:37:40.000Okay, right now, number one, Dow Jones, I mean Dow Chemicals profits were down 97% in the first quarter.
01:37:48.000All of this is a part of that total structure breakdown.
01:37:51.000I am quite sure that this swine flu thing is likewise just one more part and step to fit into the total protocol.
01:38:00.000bringing the financial system to a total breakdown and halt.
01:38:04.000Again, Starbucks, many of you drink their coffee.
01:38:07.000Profits dropped 77% in the first quarter of this year.
01:38:39.000But nobody's, again, worried about all the laws and treaties and world government being set up right now because they're busy wringing their hands over the flu as the government terrorizes everybody.
01:38:49.000Now, if you work for a city, a city government, or you work for the state, any state in America, tax receipts, it better scare you to death.
01:38:58.000Tax receipts are down $54 billion in one month.
01:39:03.000And it takes about three months for these to show up.
01:39:05.000You wait until thirty to sixty days from now, you've never seen the light.
01:39:09.000You know every time you say that, I have these fools email me going, Lindsey, you know, they have a set tax on the gas.
01:39:33.000Well, again, Alex, I've never had so much fun being right in all my life, but I'm not right.
01:39:40.000It's the fact that the person told me this, who is one of them, back in the middle of June, and I merely voiced it, and I'm sitting here watching it happen.
01:39:48.000Now, the greatest drop in exports in the United States of America, that means how much we're shipping to other countries and other parts of the world, in 40 years, the greatest drop in 40 years, has plunged 30% since January 1st of this year.
01:40:04.000272 major metropolitan areas reported unemployment soaring.
01:40:09.000Real estate in the Phoenix, Arizona area is down 50% since the height of the boom.
01:40:15.000Whirlpool Corporation, one of the big ones of America, profits down 28% this quarter.
01:40:20.000CNN News just reported that 253 police officers Well, laid off in New York State.
01:40:40.000In fact, Google Marshall Law and Schenectady.
01:40:42.000And the mayor's going, yeah, we're going to have troops here now, because we're not going to have... I mean, it's cuckoo land, and it's all designed.
01:40:50.000The globalists will wreck whole nations to get power.
01:41:13.000I sent it to Rob Dew and Aaron, as well as a couple other agencies.
01:41:18.000We got a proclamation out here in Los Angeles County that our Los Angeles County is under emergency.
01:41:25.000Let me see, it's further that the cop is propping before the state, okay.
01:41:29.000Now for this, proclaimed and ordered by the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors that a local emergency exists throughout Los Angeles County and shall be deemed to continue to exist until its termination, as proclaimed by this board.
01:41:42.000And also, I don't know if you guys watch too much television, but last, on Tuesday as well, on the 28th, Law & Order had a television show where this lady was brought up on charges for not vaccinating her son that killed another child with the measles.
01:42:02.000Yeah, notice how that's perfectly timed.
01:42:04.000I have literally been sent YouTube clips of scores and scores of TV shows.
01:42:07.000My wife sees them where if you don't take the vaccine, you're a murderer.
01:42:11.000And they never point out, wait a minute, this other kid's been vaccinated.
01:42:15.000How did you give it to him if he was vaccinated?
01:42:18.000And they're getting everybody ready for forced inoculation.
01:42:20.000Time, Newsweek are saying we need to do it.
01:42:22.000They're setting the precedent with this because they tried to, in fact, did you get the swine flu fear-mongering YouTube video?
01:45:22.000You know, we just run all these tests killing foster children with tests and biologicals before and radiating them.
01:45:27.000Trust us, we're only murdering eugenicists who love the New World Order.
01:45:32.000And, you know, somebody ought to take that clip for, like, a white zombie or something, you know, music, because they always use, like, weird, scary, creepy stuff in the intro, like...
01:45:41.000And Betty didn't survive, and then she gave it to Billy, and then she... She didn't make it.
01:46:13.000MMR, DPT, all these shots they give to the children, all it does is weaken the immune system so later in life they can't overcome what comes their way.
01:46:21.000Vaccinations, oh my goodness, I beg of you.
01:46:37.000I give it in a one hour, you watch it on your television, what's happening in relation to vaccinations, it'll tell you what to expect about all this swine flu thing, and all that's happening financially.
01:46:48.000And this week, this week, I prepared a new presentation.
01:48:36.000The loss of tax base is going to paralyze the states and the cities.
01:48:43.000You notice what I said there a few moments ago?
01:48:45.000You've had billions of dollars of tax.
01:48:47.000Loss, revenues, $54 billion in one month's time.
01:48:52.000If you work for the school, the government, employee, highway department, infrastructure of America, every bit of this depends on taxes.
01:49:00.000And the tax loss now is so great because of the corporate profits being down and what's being lost at the gas pump.
01:49:06.000Folks, if you work for a state, you must make preparations immediately because there's going to be major cuts.
01:49:13.000The interest on the national debt will not be paid.
01:49:16.000This is the next thing you're going to see, because the Federal Reserve now is buying the T-bills, so the interest can only go on this way for a short period of time until the world gets the message that they're going to bail out, that they're going to have to cash in the T-bills that they hold, their reserve currency, and the that they're going to have to cash in the T-bills that they hold, their reserve currency, and the interest on the national debt will not be paid, and you will But, Lindsey, we're safe because Obama cares about us. - Okay.
01:49:45.000I mean, he's got a nice suit and reads off a teleprompter, man.
01:49:49.000You know, come on, you're not racist, are you?
01:49:52.000I mean, have you noticed how they inject that and everything?
01:49:54.000Oh, you're protesting the foreign banks and the 12.8 trillion to them, and the National News said, because you don't like black people.
01:50:01.000They said that about all the Tea Party people.
01:50:03.000I mean, this is how criminal this media and this government is.
01:50:06.000This steady diet of horse dung they try to cram down people's throats.
01:50:51.000And I want to ask Lindsey Williams, who's a Baptist pastor himself, what do you do about all these Romans 13 churches paid off by the clergy response teams by FEMA to tell their flocks to lay down the government and take the shots and do as you're told?
01:51:05.000We'll find out from Lindsey Williams on the other side from a pastor's perspective.
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01:52:15.000We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
01:52:23.000The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
01:52:32.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:52:34.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists, Who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs.
01:53:09.000Hi, this is Peter Kronschnabel with Midas Resources.
01:53:11.000As you know, government spending is at an all-time high and inflation is on the rise.
01:53:15.000What are you doing right now to protect yourself financially?
01:53:18.000As the economy continues to deteriorate due to corporate greed and government intervention, more people will lose their jobs and worse, their life savings.
01:53:25.000Having your hard-earned money in banks, the stock market, or any other paper asset is a lose-lose deal.
01:53:30.000You'll lose on your capital investment, and you'll lose purchasing power as the dollar continues to devalue.
01:55:09.000I believe all of God's children have run their races, have lived their lives well.
01:55:13.000And we're getting to the point now Where, in all probability, we're basically at the end of our physical life here.
01:55:21.000And I face that, and I think it's important for all of us to face that, but at the same time, to keep our eyes on our eternal future, as it's promised to us in the Word of God, and it's written in our hearts.
01:55:34.000That we're going to be in eternity, and it's going to be never-ending bliss.
01:55:38.000And we're living in the opposite of that at this time.
01:55:41.000But this time is going to be very short, and especially for us, because Especially in this country and really throughout the whole world, but first here, there's going to be mass death.
01:55:54.000This is actually a beta test, if you'd want to call it that, that's co-joined to the main move.
01:56:00.000And that's what Steve Quayle has said.
01:56:03.000I think in your heart of hearts you realize that, and I think it's time to classify this as that without a doubt.
01:56:09.000That is where we are, and to move accordingly for our own physical self-preservation.
01:56:15.000If I was in your tremendous shoes, being who I am, what I would do, and I'm not saying it's what you should do, Alex, but my heart just tells me that anyone should do it, including you.
01:56:24.000I would get on an airplane with your family, and I would leave this country.
01:56:29.000Because you have been the captain who has tried to save the Titanic here.
01:56:33.000We've all been on the ship with you, Alex, as truth seekers and info warriors.
01:56:38.000But there comes a time when you have to realize where things are.
01:56:42.000And where they are just dictates to save your innocent family.
01:56:47.000You're putting them in a place of safety and I think you deserve to go with them.
01:56:50.000I don't believe you deserve to go down with the ship and I'd like to get Pastor Williams' opinion on what I just said and God bless both of you.
01:56:56.000God bless you, but let me just say this.
01:56:58.000Okay, we'll probably need to hold Williams over and then get the next guest on the date after.
01:57:05.000Staying in the middle of it, to be speaking out, if that is coming, and I hope that's not the case, we will wake up more people, people will see the truth, and it literally is their minds, their souls that are important to save.
01:58:28.000But many years from now, laying in your beds, What would you give once, just once, to come back here and tell our enemies, you may take our lives, but you'll never take our freedom.
01:58:41.000We'll do five more minutes with Pastor Lindsey Williams.
01:58:43.000Then, former NSA operative will be joining us to talk about designer weaponized flu.
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02:00:40.000We'll be covering that in just a moment.
02:00:44.000Finishing up with Pastor Lindsey Williams.
02:00:45.000A few calls and we're going to get Wayne Madsen on who's been going on international television saying his Doctoral and viral contacts are saying this has got to be a manufactured bioweapon.
02:00:59.000We'll get his inside scoop on that coming up in just a few minutes.
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02:01:13.000I want to let everybody know the denial of service attacks over our CDNs at the ports are still going on.
02:01:26.000uh... and uh... it's the biggest attack one of the big centers has ever seen uh... when we move the ports are block the ideas that they start blasting entire structure so it's not some kid doing it uh... and they are hopping mad upset about over the work we're doing and what we're doing is trying to You know, cover what's happening.
02:03:02.000We do not have a king in the United States of America.
02:03:05.000Who is Caesar, if you properly interpret, if you obey the scriptures, which you've got to do, because that's your guideline, render unto who?
02:03:40.000If you obey what the Bible tells you to obey and the Word of God, You will obey the first three words of the Constitution of the United States of America because we don't have a king!
02:03:51.000And on top of that, why did they kill Paul and everybody?
02:03:55.000Why did the Caesars order Christians by the tens of thousands killed?
02:03:58.000I mean, why didn't they bow down and worship Saturn?
02:04:03.000Why didn't they bow down and worship, you know, all these different gods?
02:04:08.000Why didn't they bow down and worship Dagon?
02:04:10.000I mean, according to what the preachers teach, they should have hit their knees and said, Well sure, but we don't have what Rome had.
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02:08:37.000I want to go right to Wayne Madsen, but I will recap at the bottom of the hour and get his take on it.
02:08:42.000The information I have about what's happening, I'll just bring up some of these questions for him with the documents I have.
02:08:48.000We have huge, huge, huge developments here.
02:08:52.000I have a secret document for state health care people that was given to me by a high-level school administrator in the AISD confirming that little boy that died, and this came out the night before, Saying he was on the verge of death, and that they would then go to level 5, which they did, and then level 6, and that we were really under level 6.
02:09:13.000That 40 to 50 percent of those that get it, that they have a clinical attack rate of 40 to 50 percent, meaning if you come exposed to it, you contract and get sick that often, when regular flu is 10 to 15 percent.
02:09:24.000But there are more people on ventilators in Texas, that they're covering the shop, that the feds are saying this is super deadly.
02:09:31.000The feds are acting like that is what it is.
02:09:35.000You know, that it's super deadly, but then verbally they're like, oh, it's not that big of a deal.
02:09:56.000I mean, you know, there he is on Russia Today yesterday, breaking down that a lot of experts think it's weaponized, that the government's really worried about how fast it's spreading, and that's what the internal documents show.
02:10:05.000And I've got this from other doctors in Mexico City, doctors here in Texas.
02:10:09.000It broke out just south of where I sit in South Austin.
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02:12:57.000Wayne Madsen is a Washington, D.C.-based investigative journalist, author, and syndicated columnist.
02:13:01.000He has written for the Village Voice, Progressive, Counterpunch, Online Journal, CorpWatch, Multinational Monitor, News Insider, and these times, and the American Conservative.
02:13:10.000His columns have appeared in the Miami Herald, Houston Chronicle, Philadelphia Inquirer, Columbus Dispatch, Sacramento Bee, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, among others.
02:13:19.000A lot of times when I'm watching an NSA or CIA hearing in Congress, you always see Madsen sitting in the back, covering it.
02:13:24.000Madsen is the author of the Handbook on Personal Data Protection, we're going to have him on about that sometime, by MacMillan, an acclaimed reference book on international data protection law, genocide and covert operations in Africa, 1993-99.
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02:14:06.000We've had little kid hacker attacks years ago when I didn't have good servers where they put a naked girl on a motorcycle on there and say, ha ha, screw you, you know, real grassroots hacker stuff.
02:14:16.000But we built systems up, got more professional, had big CDNs, you know, hidden servers.
02:14:21.000They went over those into the ports, we'd change IP addresses, they'd jump ports, then they would attack whole Company systems, and have so much bandwidth, they were blasting entire giant facilities in Chicago and LA.
02:14:35.000They're hitting about seven different sites, all sorts of stuff, threatening phone calls coming in before they did it, saying they were going to do it.
02:14:43.000What does this sound like to you, Wayne Madsen?
02:14:46.000I don't know what it is I'm saying that's so horrible.
02:14:49.000Well, we know right now, Alex, that they're creating a new cyber command in the Pentagon.
02:14:56.000The current NSA Director, General Keith Alexander, is supposed to be the head of that command.
02:15:02.000What you're talking about is more in the area of offensive information warfare.
02:15:07.000This is the most classified Part of this whole cyber security program that's being developed and the issue is, is that too much power to leave into the hands of an agency like NSA or the CIA or in fact the Pentagon?
02:15:24.000What does offensive information warfare entail?
02:15:27.000Is it more than just biopsychological warfare operations?
02:15:31.000Or does it get into actually creating these embargoes for information by using these technical attack mechanisms, as you're suggesting, with coming into ports and doing all this, other than the fact that what we used to see hackers do was, you know, throw up a picture Uh, you know, some scantily clad woman or something like that on a legitimate website.
02:15:58.000It's getting much more serious than that, I'm afraid.
02:16:00.000Well, I mean, they, as you know, five weeks ago, the head guy that Obama had appointed said, look, this is a takeover of our republic.
02:16:07.000They want control of all the infrastructure.
02:16:09.000Jay Rockefeller comes out and says, yeah, we'd be better off without the web.
02:16:13.000They want to, just like the NSA moved into telecoms, they want an even mid-sized IP companies Computer companies, and this is your special, you can speak to it, you're at the NSA, put these grids in there to, quote, shut the web down, as a quote, to protect it, and then we're talking to the big IT companies, they're saying, yes, this is the biggest attack ever, you know, this is government, this is not hot pocket eating hackers, you know, having fun.
02:16:44.000What do you think it is we did that made them so unhappy?
02:16:47.000Well, what it is is everyone's offering alternative sources of information, breaking the monopoly of these mega entertainment, infotainment corporations, which control about 99% of where you get your news and other information from on a daily basis.
02:17:09.000They do not like the Internet because there's too many people out there offering up I'm not talking about all bloggers, but the media blogs are offering up alternative sources of information, and it's causing problems for the oligarchs, who always thought that just by picking up a telephone and talking to a newspaper publisher or a bureau chief, they could kill stories.
02:17:34.000They don't have that capability any longer, and they don't like this new media.
02:17:41.000I mean, whatever Bush did, it seems is expanding under Obama.
02:17:46.000And I know you know about the Jay Rockefeller stuff.
02:17:48.000Where do you see this cyber command going and openly saying the Pentagon and NSA are going to run domestic networks and spy without warrants?
02:17:56.000And he's protecting Bush on that and protecting Bush on torture.
02:18:00.000But we're not discussing that in the news because it's all the flu, the flu!
02:18:04.000Right, well we saw this during the Clinton administration when we fought, strenuously fought against the Clinton administration's attempt to have anyone who wanted to use encryption to cover their communications, you would have to possess a government key, where the government could go in and say, give us a key so we can break the encryption.
02:18:25.000We fought those battles under Clinton, then of course Bush came in and It seemed like those battles were just, you know what Bush pulled off, were just almost a mood issue.
02:18:37.000But now we see, with this administration, some of those same players involved with the Clinton administration pushing this sort of surveillance, technical surveillance capability, have come back.
02:18:48.000They're back in these federal agencies and they're pushing that same agenda of surveillance.
02:18:54.000Do you think they'll be successful, quote, taking over the infrastructure of the internet?
02:18:59.000I don't think so, because the internet, one thing we know about the internet, it's dynamic, it was actually engineered.
02:19:05.000Uh, created by the Department of Defense to withstand a nuclear attack.
02:19:08.000That's the architecture of the Internet.
02:19:11.000And I don't think anything that they, uh, the government can throw up will, uh, be able to actually stop, uh, uh, this.
02:19:18.000And they also don't, they're not bargaining on something else.
02:19:21.000There's a lot of, a lot of high-tech money in the Bay Area, especially.
02:19:25.000Uh, these, a lot of these people are very libertarian, and if they do try to control the Internet, I know what's going to come down the pike.
02:19:35.000This is the one that the government doesn't have any control over, and I think that that's just what we'll see.
02:19:39.000We'll see somebody come up with a form of communication that the government can't keep, you know, can't get its hands around.
02:19:47.000So you're talking about a technocrat rebellion, and you'll have all these old globalist dinosaurs, you know, sitting there 90 years old with their mistresses going, Wilford, get me my butler!
02:21:30.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
02:21:32.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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02:25:08.000Well, I've got to say, this story kind of caught up with me by surprise.
02:25:12.000I was in the process last week of investigating the so-called suicide of this Freddie Mac CFO.
02:25:20.000I was looking at some other issues, and I met a journalist with one of Mexico City's largest newspapers, and he was very nervous about something.
02:25:35.000I've got to say, I hadn't heard about it.
02:25:38.000I looked on the television and that's what CNN was covering.
02:25:43.000What he told me was he had been in contact with a top UN scientist who's actually been in the Democratic Republic of Congo looking at Ebola, hot zones, outbreaks, also HIV, and he said the problem with this was that it was the vector transmission on this particular flu did not meet all the natural occurrences.
02:26:08.000This scientist, as though it had been engineered, it was not coming from swine to human, but it was human to human contact.
02:26:20.000There's two strains of swine flu, North American Eurasian, two strains of human flu, and of course Uh, the, uh, avian flu, the bird flu that, uh, wreaked havoc in, in Asia, uh, a few years ago.
02:26:34.000So to be clear, you're saying it's two parts pig, uh, of the four parts?
02:26:38.000Two parts human, two, two parts human and one part bird.
02:26:42.000And that does, and he said that does just, his experience with Ebola, which he, the scientist apparently thought was also a product of, uh, biological warfare research.
02:26:52.000Uh, it, it was the same type of transmission method.
02:26:58.000With, you know, disastrous consequences with people succumbing from this particular flu.
02:27:06.000When I started checking into it, I contacted a friend of mine who's a journalist in Jakarta because, of course, that's where they had some experience with the bird flu.
02:27:17.000And, of course, his contacts in the health ministry in Indonesia, and we had the health minister of Indonesia basically say this looks To be man-made.
02:27:26.000They thought that the Indonesian Health Ministry thought with bird flu and with this swine flu that this could be being spread by people who want to increase profits for pharmaceuticals.
02:27:43.000I got, this is from Tuesday evening, it came to us and then I got it confirmed and talked to the person yesterday and didn't really know what I had until last night, but this talked about the boy that was about to die in Houston.
02:27:57.000We have the name of the medical doctor here, and it's an internal state document that I got from a school administrator.
02:28:03.000We have a story up on PrisonPlanet.com, Texas doctor claims swine flu cases far worse than reported, and that we're already at a level 6.
02:28:10.000Now, this said we were already at a level 5, and it was going to go to level 6, and they did announce yesterday it was a 5.
02:28:15.000Now they're saying we may go to level 6, so this is confirmed.
02:28:18.000But what's important here, and I have this directly from the source, This went out to health workers in schools.
02:28:24.000Okay, I'll just tell you that at the administration level.
02:28:28.000We have the names and I know who this came from.
02:28:57.000And then it goes on to say in Mexico, these folks might have died already, but here in the U.S., they're getting Tamiflu, Relazine quickly, and those are drugs, folks, not vaccines.
02:29:06.000And we have ready access to ventilators.
02:29:09.000It goes on, what this means is that within a couple of weeks, regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed.
02:29:14.000Some of the kids with positive cases in Comal County had more than 70 contacts before diagnosis.
02:29:19.000There are 10 to 25 times, 10 to 25 times, more actual cases.
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02:31:31.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
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02:33:35.000They're declaring emergencies here all over the country.
02:33:39.000They've got police guarding Tampa flu stockpiles we confirmed here in Austin.
02:33:43.000But they're saying it's no big deal, but acting like it's the end of the world.
02:33:46.000Meanwhile, regular flus kill 36,000 people on average here in the United States, and there's only been a few deaths.
02:33:54.000So what do you think of what I just read, and who would stand to gain from releasing a designer flu, whether for fear-mongering or to wipe out a bunch of people?
02:34:03.000Well obviously the pharmaceuticals would gain in profit, but also those who want to keep this national security.
02:34:10.000Surveillance state going and full bore would also gain in that.
02:34:15.000I would add to what the documents you received.
02:34:19.000I received two internal memos from Dr. Besser, who is the acting director of the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta.
02:34:28.000Uh, now it's interesting to point out that Dr. Besser's job before he was made acting director was he was in charge of the counter-terrorism unit called COTPR at the CDC, and he's turning, in his memo to the CDC he says, we don't know where we're going with this.
02:34:44.000We're like uncharted territory, but he does say we're in a marathon, not a sprint.
02:34:50.000That's all this kind of alarmist language.
02:34:52.000So yes, why is it that they're trying to downplay this now?
02:34:55.000But internally, they're acting like it's a big deal.
02:34:58.000I would also say, based on what Joe Biden had to say about not getting in airplanes or on trains, I have a friend, he's a journalist, he's a colleague of mine, he's in quarantine today in New York City because he flew from Chicago to New York and he obviously contracted the flu.
02:35:16.000Now, the hospital will not confirm, even do a test to confirm whether it's swine flu or not.
02:35:37.000I think there may be different protocols for when a journalist gets this and is put in quarantine because they know they have access to blackberries and iPhones and all this and can actually report on what's going on from within these hospitals So they did not test this individual for swine flu.
02:36:06.000There are 100 flights daily from Mexico to O'Hare Airport.
02:36:11.000So just think about the potential people who are flying on these airplanes and who may have transmitted this disease.
02:36:18.000And here in Washington, we have our first
02:36:21.000confirmed case now of uh... swine flu it's uh... at the world bank downtown and um... uh... it was apparently an individual who was in mexico on business who came to work at the world bank and and and uh... they found out he had swine flu instead of telling this individual don't come to work he came to work and now they don't know how many other employees of the world bank may well you're a smart guy uh... i've been trying to do this uh... but i've been just i'm trying to compute let's say this thing broke out march
02:36:51.00018th is when the Mexicans said they discovered it, so let's say early March, a month and a half ago or more, almost two months ago.
02:36:59.000It really starts breaking last Thursday, Friday in Mexico.
02:37:03.000Here we are seven, eight days later, and now it's hysterical here, so I guess you're going to see the They say with most flus like this, the peak's about 80-90 days.
02:37:12.000So we're talking, we're probably, you know, 60-70 days until we see the peak of this here.
02:37:19.000And so I guess it's going to be, what, a week or two until we see if there start to be deaths, tens of thousands of cases, or are they going to go the route of just shutting everything down and telling us, oh, there's only 150 cases, but Then I've talked to people calling me from Mexico and doctors and calls from Mexico, they say there's vomiting, death in small towns, death at every hospital, BBC reports, doctors by name at hospitals saying there's dead people everywhere.
02:37:45.000I mean, what the hell's going on and why am I getting hack attack completely blasted?
02:37:51.000Well, I would just go on, you know, having a friend who is in quarantine with suspected swine flu and they're not telling him.
02:38:18.000I can tell you here in Washington, The drug stores, the two major chains, CVS and Rite Aid, are out of Tamiflu.
02:38:25.000And you know, you figure where these drug stores are located.
02:38:29.000I live between the CIA and the Pentagon.
02:38:31.000So every drug store now is out of Tamiflu and they're out of these surgical masks.
02:38:38.000Well, what are these people who work at these facilities?
02:38:41.000uh... around uh... this area know that we don't know now that we have a now we have of course our first confirmed case of swine flu here in the district.
02:38:48.000Wayne Madsen, consultant to the NSA, syndicated writer for major publications, reporter in DC and the district of criminals Are you saying the motive is with Big Pharma and the government, a smokescreen for the political collapse, the death of Chrysler, all of this grandstanding by the leadership of the government, when the public is on the verge of revolution?
02:39:12.000Or, is this them just not knowing what's happening and they're panicking?
02:39:15.000I think the evidence all points towards, like you said with this designer virus, I think it's a staged event.
02:39:21.000The question is, have they released something really deadly on us, or are they make-believing it's really deadly and hyping it?
02:40:13.000It's been a 24-hour news cycle, but now we have 24 by 7 on swine flu.
02:40:19.000Not to downplay it, I think it may be a lot more serious than, of course, based on what I'm reading internal memos and what they're stating publicly.
02:40:27.000Now that you know, though, better than I, because you've been in government, I've just seen them do this from outside, that they will strategically lie to police and locals, telling them, like, you know, Bush told police, oh, there have been lots of secret terror attacks every time a chemical plant would blow up or something.
02:40:43.000There have been lots of secret terror attacks.
02:40:46.000That's why we're taking all the rights, but don't tell the public.
02:40:49.000They could also be feeding the locals like they did with the last bird flu freakout two years ago saying millions would die and they didn't.
02:40:56.000Like they did with the SARS five, six years ago saying total death and it didn't happen.
02:41:00.000I mean, what's the chance of it is just a total hoax?
02:41:02.000There's only been a few deaths and they're just hyping it.
02:41:06.000Well, I remember we had the West Nile virus scare too here.
02:41:09.000You know, they said anytime you see a dead bird, you know, Yeah, it was reported, so we had all these dead bird sightings all over the Washington area.
02:41:18.000Of course, some people did get sick, but it did seem like it was a little bit hyped with the West Nile virus.
02:41:25.000Some of that may be at play here, but again, what Dr. Besser said in these internal CDC memos that were leaked to me was, Was like, we don't know where this is heading, but we all have to be in, you know, in the emergency mode.
02:41:38.000And this guy's background was handling the counterterrorism part of the equation for the Centers for Disease Control.
02:41:47.000I mean, he's in a very convenient position now, being somebody who came out of that particular area of counterterrorism.
02:41:54.000Obviously, you know, part of that whole counterterrorism thing is to scare the general public.
02:42:02.000Yeah, well, things are getting really bizarre.
02:42:06.000Speaking of PsyOps, day one, within hours of the giant plane, one of the Air Force Two, one of the four extras they have, is part of the Imperium now.
02:42:18.000Pelosi has several of her own cruisers.
02:42:22.000But the point is, it's flying between the buildings, F-16s, and we said, my God, they knew that would terrorize people.
02:42:28.000Then it comes out, they knew for weeks in advance, made a big deal about it staying secret, told the police, and this was a big operation, the FBI don't tell the public, there were internal fights about it.
02:42:38.000Then they fly it through and terrorize them, and Obama laughs and says, I didn't know about it, it was a photo-op.
02:43:24.000And I can tell you from people I know, I know one A friend of mine was standing on the Brooklyn Bridge when that happened and witnessed those F-16s coming within just yards of some of these high-rise buildings.
02:43:34.000So the idea that they said they informed people.
02:43:38.000I mean, Bloomberg says he wasn't informed the New York, New Jersey Port Authority, who lost so many of their law enforcement officers on the road.
02:44:06.000I mean, you worked in intelligence on the IT side, the surveillance side, but I mean, what is the... I mean, are these people completely psycho?
02:46:13.000I mean, it's clear, or if you disagree, that the economy is just in free fall, in the middle of all the fear of the plane, fear of the flu.
02:46:19.000Obama comes out and is very calm and very fatherly.
02:46:22.000I mean, is it all about making him the leader, he's the savior, he'll fix it, as they just lead us into darkness?
02:46:42.000during the 9-11, and then we had the sniper case, and then we had anthrax.
02:46:47.000Certainly, I've seen how this city can grind to a halt, and it seems like now with the first case of swine flu, we're seeing a repetition of that here in Washington.
02:47:01.000And we know what happened during anthrax, they put through that Patriot Act.
02:47:04.000When Congress came under attack, Congress had been dispersed and they were able to push that Patriot Act through.
02:47:13.000That's how Washington reacts to these crisis modes.
02:47:17.000And certainly we may see something happen again here with this swine flu.
02:47:22.000When the bipartisan group of crooks wouldn't pass the Banker Takeover Bill that 98% of Americans in polls are against, as you know, Wayne, they terrorized people, Bush and the Democrats, and said, we'll have martial law if you don't do it, we'll have depression.
02:47:51.000And what do you see this, whether it's a real deadly flu or not?
02:47:54.000I mean, they've got to know this is, and it's clearly engineered, so I guess they want to fully destroy the economy.
02:48:02.000Well, also, this is an international, this is international in scope.
02:48:06.000I noted that China, which has never wanted Taiwan to be as part of any kind of UN organization, China has now said, okay, Taiwan can now take part in World Health Organization meetings on swine flu.
02:48:20.000So we're seeing a big international push right now.
02:48:24.000Uh, this is a global issue, uh, and, uh, it seems like, uh, like state and municipal governments are complying with what the federal government's saying.
02:48:33.000We're seeing national governments basically saying, uh, we'll do whatever the World Health Organization tells us to do.
02:49:35.000If you see the regional organizations are now having these emergency sessions, whether it's the Gulf Corp, Cooperation Council, and the Persian Gulf.
02:49:43.000You've got the South African Development Cooperation Council meeting, because there's now two cases in South Africa.
02:49:52.000So, yeah, all these regional organizations are meeting in these emergency sessions to see how they're going to confront the swine flu, whether it's broken out in those areas or they feel it's about ready to.
02:50:04.000So, yeah, this is very much an internationally coordinated operation.
02:50:08.000And we have riots starting and attacks on government everywhere that look like they're organic.
02:50:15.000Perfect timing to have this as a big unifying effect through fear, to make everybody drop their rebellion against tyranny, to just worry about their lives.
02:50:23.000And a perfect beta test, or it could be the perfect cover right now for Marshall Law Wayne.
02:50:32.000I mean, fear is the only weapon these people have at their disposal.
02:50:37.000And when you're talking about a pandemic, you know, not many people are walking around with degrees in microbiology or virology, so they'll just believe what they're told.
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02:55:38.000Here in our little think tank, any other things you think are important or things on the horizon with Pakistan, Iran, Israel saying they want to go in.
02:56:04.000Well, certainly this thing, this swine flu is taking the attention off of what's going on with the possible collapse of the Pakistani nation, a nuclear country, a nuclear weaponized country.
02:56:16.000I would also point out that one of the things getting very little attention is the U.S.
02:56:22.000Army Bioweapons Laboratory at Fort Detrick, Maryland.
02:56:25.000Now, there have been reports that Samples of various diseases are missing from their biosafety level 4 laboratory.
02:56:59.000The place needs to be shut down because we know that that's where the anthrax strain came from, the AIMS strain of anthrax used in the attacks on Congress and the media.
02:57:09.000Uh, it's high time that somebody, uh, just says, that's it, issue an executive order, shut down Fort Detrick, turn what needs to be turned over to the CDC and National Institutes of Health and whatever else is left there, just carefully have that stuff destroyed because you can't, we just can't afford to have Have them up there, those Frankensteins, Dr. Frankensteins, working at Frederick.
02:57:32.000I mean, the only decent guy was probably Dr. Bruce Ivins, who they said did the anthrax, but I don't think did, but they said he committed suicide.
02:57:39.000Well, now they've built 36 level 4 and level 3 bioweapons labs in the name of treatment, but even the Baltimore Sun admitted that this is really a cover for bioweapons.
02:57:53.000Absolutely, and then we had the incident on the Intercity passenger train in Switzerland the other day, where a canister containing swine flu explodes with 61 passengers on the train.
02:58:05.000And now there's 22 documented cases of swine flu outbreak in Switzerland.
02:58:10.000What in the world were they moving that stuff on a passenger train for?
02:58:14.000Sounds like a staged bio-attack to me.
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