John Perkins has lived four lives as an economic hitman, as the CEO of a successful alternative energy company, who was rewarded for not disclosing his EHM past. As an expert of indigenous cultures and shamanism, a teacher and writer, he uses his experience to promote ecology and sustainability while continuing to honor his vow of silence about his life as an EHM.
00:00:10.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:14.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000We are joined for the next hour by John Perkins.
00:00:25.000We will have open phones, but specifically for questions for him on the economy, on how the international banking cartel operates and the things they do.
00:00:34.000We are simulcasting at prisonplanet.tv right now.
00:00:38.000I remember interviewing John Perkins before his book was on the New York Times bestseller and it became a, I think, number one, didn't it?
00:00:45.000And then he's got a new book coming out, and we just really appreciate him coming on the show.
00:00:50.000John Perkins has lived four lives as an economic hitman, as the CEO of a successful alternative energy company, who was rewarded for not disclosing his EHM past.
00:01:01.000As an expert of indigenous cultures and shamanism, a teacher and a writer, he uses his experience to promote ecology and sustainability, while continuing to honor his vow of silence about his life as the EHM.
00:01:16.000You know, John Perkins, it's probably better that you haven't been on this in a few years.
00:01:19.000Introduce yourself, tell your story, you know, in kind of an encapsulated version in the next 10-15 minutes, and then let's get into your expert take from the inside on what the international banks are doing right now.
00:01:31.000You know, their own IMF and World Bank documents state that they are engineering these collapses to bring in greater control.
00:01:38.000John Perkins, good to have you with us.
00:01:44.000We're about to break in a few minutes, but tell folks about your saga, who you are, and... Okay.
00:01:52.000Well, I was an economic hitman, and I think it's fair to say that we economic hitmen have managed to create the world's first truly global empire.
00:02:00.000And for the first time in history, it's an empire that's been created primarily without the military, through economics, through people like me.
00:02:06.000And we work many different ways, but perhaps the most common is that we will identify a third world country that has resources our corporations covet, like oil, and then arrange huge loans to that country from the World Bank and its sisters.
00:02:19.000But the money doesn't actually go to the country, instead it goes to our own corporations to build big infrastructure projects in that country, things like power plants, highways, and industrial parks that benefit a few wealthy people in that country, as well as our own corporations, of course.
00:02:35.000But don't help the majority of the people at all, because they're too poor to buy electricity, to have cars to drive on the highways, they don't have the skills to get jobs in industrial parks.
00:02:45.000But they are left holding a huge debt.
00:02:49.000It's a debt so large that it can't possibly be repaid.
00:02:52.000And so at some point, we economic hitmen go back into that country and say, listen, you owe us money, you can't pay your debt, give us a pound of flesh.
00:03:00.000Sell your oil real cheap to oil companies, or Vote with us on an United Nations vote.
00:03:07.000Or send troops in support of ours to someplace in the world like Iraq.
00:03:11.000And on the few occasions when we economic hitmen fail, Alex, and I talk in my books about how I failed with Jaime Roldo, President of Ecuador, and Omar Torrijos of Panama.
00:03:22.000And these are people that either overthrow governments or assassinate their leaders.
00:03:27.000Because I couldn't bring Roldos of Ecuador and Torrijos of Panama around, I couldn't get them to accept these large, onerous loans.
00:03:34.000Both of them were assassinated by CIA-sponsored jackals.
00:03:39.000And on the few occasions when the jackals also fail, which is what happened in Iraq with Saddam Hussein, that both the economic advent and the jackals were unable to get through to Saddam Hussein, on those few occasions, then and only then, do we send in the military.
00:03:55.000And so we have this empire today, it's a global empire that's been created pretty secretly because most of us aren't aware that this sort of thing is going on.
00:04:03.000And it's the world's first truly global empire, been created primarily without the military and in secret.
00:04:11.000Well, John Perkins, when we come back after this quick break, let's get into kind of encapsulating the economic hitman book that is very important for folks to get and read, and your experience inside the system so people know the past in a little bit more detail, and how they recruited you, how they operate, and then we'll look forward to what's happening currently Today, with John Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, is our guest.
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00:08:39.000Reintroduce yourself for some stations that just joined us.
00:08:42.000Recap basically your life, how you got involved working for the big international banks in the takeovers of countries, and secondarily, What was it like when you wrote your book?
00:08:56.000Did you know it'd be a, you know, number one bestseller?
00:09:00.000And then let's move into your expertise on how the world really works in view of what's happening currently with the globalist takeover of the banking system.
00:09:13.000Incidentally, the answer to the last question about what's going on now, I have a new book coming out in early November, which addresses that.
00:09:21.000I don't know whether that'll be a final title.
00:09:23.000I'd really encourage people to subscribe to my newsletter.
00:09:26.000Just go to johnperkins.org, newsletter, you know, sign up list and sign on and we'll let them know when the book's out and what the title is because it goes into these subjects.
00:09:36.000I was recruited by the National Security Agency, the nation's largest and most secretive spy organization.
00:09:42.000That was my last year in college in Boston.
00:09:47.000And I went through a whole series of lie detector tests and other tests and they They determined that I would make a good economic hit man, and they also found that I had several hooks that they could use to really encourage me to come in.
00:10:00.000I think that three big drugs of our culture.
00:10:02.000I was kind of hooked on sex, power, and those are the big ones, sex, power, and money.
00:10:12.000And they determined all that, and that they could get me into the fold.
00:10:51.000It's become much more prevalent today than it was then.
00:10:54.000But even then, in this particular case, and I tell a story about the first economic hitman, Kermit Roosevelt, who went in and overthrew a government in Iran.
00:11:03.000He was very successful at what he did.
00:11:05.000But very soon after that, they decided that it shouldn't be a government agent, a CIA agent.
00:11:10.000It should be someone working for a private corporation.
00:11:13.000So, that's where I came in, and my job really was to corrupt presidents and other top officials of countries that had resources that our corporations covet, oil being one of the biggest ones, but there are many others also.
00:11:25.000And to really corrupt these people to get them to accept huge loans for their country, loans that would basically bankrupt the country, wouldn't be used to really help the majority of the people, would be used to hire U.S.
00:11:35.000corporations to build big infrastructure projects like power plants in their country, It would help a few wealthy families who own the big industries and the commercial establishments.
00:11:44.000But the whole country would be left holding a huge debt that they couldn't repay.
00:11:48.000So at some point we go back and say, since you can't repay your debt, give us your oil real cheap.
00:11:56.000And when we weren't successful, and I mention in the book my situation in Ecuador with the President there and also in Panama, I was not able to corrupt those two men, Roldos and Torrijos, And so they were taken out, they were assassinated by CIA-sponsored jackals.
00:12:13.000Once again, contract consultants, security consultants who were contracted assassins, not directly by the CIA.
00:12:21.000And in that way, we've really managed to create this empire.
00:12:25.000The few occasions when the jackals and the economic hitmen are unsuccessful, like in Iraq, then we send in the military.
00:12:32.000And of course, the military is always in the background.
00:12:36.000So today, the president of Afghanistan and Pakistan, they all know the deal, and they know that if they don't play the game with us on one level or another, they're gonna go.
00:12:47.000And incidentally, Alex, our own presidents have to understand this, too.
00:12:50.000A guy like Obama now is taking a lot of criticism from his supporters, and a lot of it's very deserved.
00:12:56.000But I think one of the things that's important for us to understand is that our own presidents have been assassinated in my lifetime, and it's a constant threat.
00:13:06.000And so that makes it all the more important that we, the people, keep demanding change.
00:13:10.000We've got to keep the pressure on our politicians.
00:13:13.000We've constantly got to pressure them.
00:13:15.000We've got to put pressure on a guy like Obama so he can turn around and say to the CIA or whoever he's answering to at this particular point in time, listen you guys, I've got to do this because the people are demanding it.
00:14:05.000But we're losing our freedoms and liberties here as well.
00:14:08.000We're financing these international corporations and banks to go give these loans to build infrastructure, which they themselves then own at our expense, and then Those third world nations and old world nations rightfully hate us and we get the blame for it when really we're being drug along by the system as well.
00:14:27.000So this globalist corporate system, a crony capitalism I guess you could call it, doesn't it exploit everybody except for what Rothkopf said on this show with his book, the head of Kissinger Associates, that the 6,000 superclass They get all the power, money, and control, but the rest of the six billion, four hundred million of us, we get the short end of the stick.
00:14:52.000You know, what comes around goes around.
00:14:53.000We in the United States were willing to turn a blind eye on the use of slaves, essentially, in sweatshops that make us cheap shirts and tennis shoes.
00:15:03.000We were willing to turn a blind eye on get us cheap oil, even if it requires destroying the Amazon rainforest.
00:15:11.000We kind of turned a blind eye on that, and we always sort of said, well, of course they're doing the right thing.
00:15:16.000Nike's not hiring slaves, and Texaco isn't destroying the rainforest.
00:15:19.000Well, Nike is hiring slaves, and Texaco did destroy the rainforest, and there's a huge lawsuit in Ecuador right now that's going to be won against Texaco.
00:15:31.000And, you know, we've gone through this period that really started Milton Friedman, the economist from the Chicago School of Economics, who was deeply embraced by Ronald Reagan, got us on this role of this, what I would call a mutant virus of capitalism, Which is to say, the corporate executives don't need to be controlled.
00:15:49.000They're some sort of an elite, unlike the rest of us, who never do anything wrong.
00:15:52.000I mean, we've all got to have laws to keep us from doing, from stealing, or cheating on our income taxes, or taking somebody's pocket.
00:15:59.000But these corporate executives, they don't need any rules and regulations.
00:16:16.000You know, if you're a union member and you've got lots of loans, you've got a big mortgage on your house, you don't want to go out and picket.
00:16:23.000You don't join the picket line because you want to keep paying for your house so your family has a place to live.
00:16:29.000And so there's been all these things that really came up in the 70s and much more strongly in the 80s after Reagan was elected.
00:16:36.000And it just continued through Democrats and Republicans alike.
00:16:55.000But we've got to set our hearts and minds and souls to doing it.
00:16:59.000Well, let's look at the alternative and then we'll get into solutions and, you know, get your expert opinion on the current climate and what you think those solutions and the way out are.
00:17:12.000If they continue this process of they're above the law, the private Federal Reserve goes before Congress and says, no one can audit us, no agency, no government.
00:17:21.000If this imperial power is allowed to continue, will we have private bank chairmen wearing crowns and being worshipped?
00:17:29.000I mean, that's the logical extension of this.
00:17:32.000It's kind of a Hitlerian Fuhrer precept where, well, we saw Cheney and Bush saying, It's not illegal if the President does it.
00:17:39.000If something's illegal and the President does it, it's okay.
00:17:41.000And we're now seeing Obama saying, yeah, we're going to continue no rights for detainees, and yeah, we're going to continue having secrecy in the banking.
00:17:49.000It's clear the Presidents have been turned into nothing but vestigial, ceremonial creatures.
00:17:54.000So, if we don't slow this down and reverse it, what will this world look like?
00:17:59.000What will this super class, who are openly above the law, what will they bring us to?
00:18:59.000I don't know what's in Obama's mind, obviously.
00:19:01.000I'm not a mind reader, I'm not a psychologist, I don't know what's going on with the guy.
00:19:06.000But I do know that he's in a very, very difficult position.
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00:24:06.000government to work through private corporations to go in and facilitate the takeover of third world nations, predominantly in Latin America, but it goes on worldwide by economic means.
00:24:21.000I want to get more into what's currently happening and how this is just expanding and expanding as they gobble up the entire planet and leave tyranny where liberty was and freedom was and economic freedom was.
00:24:34.000But looking at the structure, you know, the CIA is declassified.
00:24:47.000They're using money to control the nations.
00:24:49.000But, this program of going into third world countries, paying off their leaders, giving them loans at 25-30% interest, where a billion bucks turns into 40 billion, getting the countries to sign over all their infrastructure, then the IMF World Bank documents where they turn the power and water off to cause a riot, so then society really falls, so the globalists can then buy up their stock markets.
00:25:10.000I mean, this is all on record, and now they're clearly doing it, not on a regional scale, but on an international, global scale, I mean, this is really a military system where they come in with the economics first, and as you said, back it up then militarily.
00:25:27.000After the society collapses, that creates the next crisis.
00:25:31.000They need to bring in the physical control.
00:25:33.000Can you speak specifically to the IMF riot?
00:25:37.000Well, yeah, I mean, you know, probably the best example, the clearest example of what happened in Cochabamba, Bolivia a few years ago, when The IMF decided that what it really wanted to do was take control of the water system down there.
00:26:05.000The banks shouldn't have allowed this to happen.
00:26:07.000But in any case, the IMF went in, and they dictated that Bolivia had to basically Give it's water company in Cochabamba, it's third largest city, to the Bechtel Corporation, a U.S.
00:26:38.000And eventually, They got their water system back and Abe O'Reilly became president at the same time and Bechtel kind of put its tail between its legs and left only because this enlightened president came in at the time.
00:26:55.000But we've seen that thing time and time and time and time again on all sorts of levels where in order to I forgive a country's debt, and we never really forgive it.
00:27:08.000We just delay it, usually increase the interest rates.
00:27:10.000But in order to even make that happen, we force them to privatize their electric utility companies, their water and sewage companies, their prisons, their schools, their mines, their resources, their oil companies, and sell it to American corporations, or sometimes it's European corporations.
00:27:29.000And now, of course, isn't it interesting how we're almost seeing a reversal Of that process in this country, Alex, where in fact the private banks are in such dire trouble that the government is going in and bailing them out.
00:27:42.000And it's stopping short of actually taking an equity position where it really has control over them.
00:27:49.000But it's getting so deeply involved through these bailouts.
00:27:52.000So it's really socialization of the corporatocracy, of the people who run our big corporations, of the big corporations themselves.
00:28:00.000We're socializing them and we've basically capitalized the poor people and all the failures of the country john i'd i see it is socializing uh...
00:28:10.000the risk but privatizing the profit has been said many times i really see this is a corporate takeover of the government i don't see it as a government takeover the banks because it's clearly uh... the the the new york fed and other uh... private central banks that are running the show globally They fearmonger, oh my God, we're in this big crisis.
00:28:31.000You know, they use the derivatives and all the fiat currency and credit they made to buy up the world.
00:28:37.000Now the bubble's popping, they're using that as a way to terrorize people, and to giving them even more power, and they're announcing on the news a new Bank of the World, and that we'll be paying our taxes to it, but these are the bankers, they're the experts, they know how to run things.
00:29:04.000When I say government money, I basically mean your money, my money, your listeners' money, our taxpayer money, is going in to bail out these guys that took big risks, lost, and now we're paying them off.
00:29:15.000And they are continuing to have all the power.
00:29:18.000The corporatocracy, the private businessmen.
00:29:22.000John Perkins, quick break, long segment coming up, lots of time to get into detail here.
00:29:25.000When we get back, I want to ask you, have they overplayed?
00:29:30.000Is it so obvious and just incredibly arrogant what they've done?
00:29:35.000Do we have a chance as a world to get the word out about this and bring these people to justice?
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00:31:19.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
00:31:22.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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00:33:33.000They figure out how to corner and manipulate currencies and money.
00:33:37.000And these private families, these private banking cartels and the allied corporations and military industrial complex under them, they figured out how to engage in mass fraud.
00:33:45.000How to create fiat currency and credit out of nothing and then get the world for it.
00:33:51.000People will kill their grandma, you know, for a million bucks.
00:33:54.000Most people out there, I mean, a lot of them would.
00:33:56.000It's sad to say, That's a million bucks made out of nothing.
00:34:00.000And so they're literally usurping the world through this.
00:34:04.000John Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
00:34:09.000I got a bunch of questions for you now and then anything you want to talk about that you think is most important for folks in the time we have left together today.
00:34:16.000But tell folks how to get Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
00:34:20.000I know you have the latest edition out.
00:34:21.000And also there's a new book coming out in the next 3-4 months.
00:34:24.000How folks get on the free mailing list there at your website so that they can get the latest news when the new book comes out at JohnPerkins.org.
00:34:46.000And the new book, the working title is Hoodwinked.
00:34:50.000You know, an economic hitman exposes what's going on in the world today and how to change it, something like that.
00:34:55.000The title might change, but we'll be sending out an email a month or two before the book comes out and let everybody know where they can get it and what the title will be.
00:35:03.000It's being published by Random House Broadway Books.
00:35:07.000And it's going to be covering all of these things.
00:35:10.000You know, John, a lot of books have been written from similar perspectives or angles, but obviously you're a great writer and you have this amazing history.
00:35:19.000But why do you think from all the books out there that have been written, literally hundreds that I know of, exposing how this financial global oligarchy works, why do you think yours became a number one bestseller and got so much attention?
00:35:31.000Well, I think Confessions became a bestseller because it's a true story about a guy in the trenches.
00:35:39.000It's not an academic treatise on this.
00:36:02.000It's got, you know, sex, drugs and rock and roll in it.
00:36:05.000And it's not academic, and yet it covers the real truth behind the economics that went on, and some of the economic principles behind it, but I think in a way that's kind of readable.
00:36:15.000The new book I'm writing now, I'm very, you know, taken by how many books there are right now on the minutiae, the detail of what's going on in the economy and how to fix it.
00:37:34.000And what do we have to do to change that?
00:37:36.000Of course, the true causes are fairly philosophical, and they're also the way that we all live, the lives that we ourselves have bought into and accepted, the icons that we have chosen to hold out as our heroes.
00:37:52.000The whole form of consumerism, the fact that we turn a blind eye to companies that are destroying rainforests in order to bring us cheap oil, and so many other things like that.
00:38:04.000And we really need to address those things, and I think have fun in doing it.
00:38:08.000You know, I do not see this as onerous.
00:38:11.000I see this as a time of tremendous enthusiastic passion for moving forward.
00:38:16.000I think we're at a time in history, Alex, it's like the Industrial Revolution or the Agricultural Revolution.
00:38:21.000The time when city-states became nations.
00:38:23.000We're going through a truly transformational time.
00:38:26.000And if we allow it to happen in this transformation, a few people are going to become world rulers.
00:38:32.000And they're well on the way to that now, what I call the corporatocracy.
00:38:35.000But we do not need to allow that to happen.
00:38:38.000We can see this as a time when we can have a true turnaround, when we really can start to honor and embrace the principles that were espoused by the founding fathers of this country of, you know, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness governed for and by the people.
00:38:53.000We've moved a long way away from that in the last four or five decades in this country.
00:38:58.000We need to, and in fact at other times in our history too, we need to move back into it now and go even further into it and look at it as a worldwide movement, not just a movement And it's bracketed by the Rio Grande and the Canadian border and the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans.
00:39:14.000Well, John Perkins, I agree with you when you say we're at a crossroads.
00:39:17.000And the technocrats, the elites, the big foundations, the think tanks, as you know, say that.
00:39:23.000And they believe they're going to dominate the future.
00:39:25.000They believe they can set up this world tyranny under this corporate globalist model where they socialize our wealth, take it from us, and give it to themselves to then buy off and control our governments.
00:39:37.000And I want to talk about solutions of breaking free from this, but let's go back to the James Bond parallel.
00:39:44.000You know, Ian Fleming, OSS, World War II, British intelligence, writes these books, and a lot of what's in those movies and books is true, a lot of it isn't.
00:39:54.000But when you take the gadgets out and the suave, you know, angle, Instead of James Bond going out and helping and fighting Spectre and the bad guys, James Bond really works for Spectre.
00:40:06.000And so you've got CIA, you've got MI6, and then above them is this global Bilderberg group, Trilateral Commission, you know, the inner rings of the CFR, who are these corporate players, these managers, and you were a mid-level, you know, kind of a captain out there.
00:40:24.000Engaging in the trench warfare on the ground to take over.
00:40:30.000And so in reality, James Bond would actually be the bad guy.
00:40:34.000He would go over to Iran in 53 with Kermit Roosevelt from the U.S., CIA section chief, stage terror attacks, blame it on Mohamed Mosaddegh, have him arrested, behead the cabinet, and bring in an oppressive police state in the SAVAC, which you cover in your book and I cover in my film, Terror Storm, a history government-sponsored terror.
00:40:51.000And so now we see them setting up the SAVAC, setting up this police state grid here in the United States.
00:40:59.000I mean, it's very, very frightening to realize they're going for broke.
00:41:04.000The establishment has committed, and I see radio, TV ads, print ads, domestic CIA, youth corps in the news saying they're going to spy on their neighbors.
00:41:14.000I mean, I have the headlines here today about, you know, children being told spy on their neighbors and their parents and how to be paid to do it.
00:41:21.000I mean, I want people to understand this is really happening.
00:41:24.000So I kind of put out a lot of info there.
00:41:29.000We're just a few years late, that's all.
00:41:34.000But, you know, you talk about CIVAC and you talk about even the SS, the Hitler's people.
00:41:40.000It's coming out that we weren't any better, and probably still are.
00:41:45.000All the stuff about torture and the degradation of the principles that we've always believed in.
00:41:53.000What did Sevak do that was worse than what's coming out that we did to prisoners of war, to people that we thought could give us information?
00:42:01.000And now to have a former vice president continue to speak up and say it was the right thing, I mean, what does that tell us, Alex?
00:42:12.000It tells us that we've reached a system where people are very, very much trying to convince us that that is the system that we need to live under.
00:42:22.000And we must resist this wholeheartedly.
00:42:25.000If we don't resist it wholeheartedly, we're basically repeating what we for years blamed the German people for having accepted Hitler and the concentration camps, the whole Holocaust.
00:42:39.000We're finding ourselves in that same position now.
00:42:43.000or are we going to fight it well john that's my next point it is that if you really study history which you're a learned man i'm sure you know about this it's now been declassified on record new york and british banks funded hitler early on thought he was a great guy because they wanted fascism and then later you know once you went totally wild turned against him
00:43:03.000And so, again, it's these banking cartels always funding every side, playing nations off against each other, funding both sides of the war, and then, in the end, coming out on top of all the power.
00:43:14.000I mean, this is the same trick they play over and over again.
00:43:17.000Take what the banks did after World War I with the Versailles sanctions on Germany, keeping them in a depression.
00:43:24.000That was the atmosphere that allowed the rise of Hitler.
00:43:27.000That's the atmosphere that keeps the third world under dictatorships today.
00:43:32.000And you read the Royal Commission on Population, 44 to 49, put out to the British government, they cold-bloodedly admit they're doing all of this to create destabilization so they can control things.
00:43:44.000I mean, this is really order out of chaos.
00:43:50.000And not only that, Alex, but when I went to business school back in the 60s, I had professors that would tell me, we'll never have another Great Depression because we've set rules and regulations in place that will not allow that to happen again.
00:44:03.000And I think that was true at the time.
00:44:06.000Glass-Steagall was one of the preeminent acts, and regulations against usurious interest rates.
00:44:13.000But, since that time, since I graduated from college, beginning in the 80s under Reagan and continuing through Clinton and everybody else, we continually hacked away at those rules.
00:44:25.000So we reached the point where there was no more Glass-Steagall that separated commercial banks from investment banks and insurance companies, and the use of real laws were all done away with.
00:44:33.000So today, some of these payday check people are charging as much as 800% interest rates, and banks and credit cards are charging in the 30s.
00:45:20.000And we got rid of regulation and we took on huge, huge amounts of debt.
00:45:25.000And we the consumer turned a blind eye to that.
00:45:27.000Well isn't this, I mean exactly, but isn't this gladiatorial where they show people being fired and we all kind of join in there in the arena?
00:45:35.000But next week we're going to be in the arena and our friends are going to be laughing at us in the cheap seats.
00:45:40.000To interrupt you because in the limited time and you're making so many great points, I want to go back here.
00:45:45.000to how they recruited you, because they're recruiting now in the high schools, the colleges for domestic spies and running all the same operations.
00:45:53.000I haven't been involved in this at the level you've been in.
00:45:56.000But just being a talk show host back when I was only on a few radio stations back in like 97, 98, I got approached by big corporate heads openly saying, yeah, the New World Order is real.
00:46:07.000You might as well just go ahead and join us.
00:46:17.000And then since then, I've had them try to send women after me with handlers.
00:46:22.000I've been in New York and had literal Russian spies there trying to put, you know, number 10 blondes on me.
00:46:28.000And it's not that Alex Jones is special.
00:46:31.000It's that there are really spies and intelligence people going all over the place, operating all the time, and the general public just doesn't know this.
00:46:40.000Can you explain to them how big these armies of not just CIA and NSA and Defense Intelligence, but all the allied corporate groups that are operating?
00:46:49.000Can you explain, because you were inside that, how big this really is?
00:46:53.000Well, as you found out, it's a very seductive system, and they figure out what your weakness is, which I think, it sounds to me, Alex, like you have a weakness for No.
00:47:16.000I talk in the last book I did, Not the one that's coming out, but the one right after Confessions, called Secret History of the American Empire, about this Brazilian woman when I was in Brazil who posed as a journalist, and about what she was really doing was offering great sex to me if I came around.
00:47:45.000I talk in the books about how I took a pretty big bribe at one time of money because I was also, my life was being threatened not to write books.
00:48:12.000These big corporations are dependent on us.
00:48:17.000They cannot exist if we don't buy their goods and services, or if our tax money doesn't buy their goods and services.
00:48:24.000We've won so many battles in the past.
00:48:27.000We got rid of apartheid in South Africa, basically through the marketplace.
00:48:30.000We got corporations to clean up terribly polluted rivers in this country, get rid of aerosol cans that were destroying the ozone layer, open their doors wider to women and minorities, get rid of trans fats in food, on and on.
00:48:42.000Because just a few of us, if a small number of us never again buys from Nike, and every one of us writes an email to Nike and says, we're not buying from you because you have sweatshops, and we buy from Patagonia and send them an email and say, we are buying from you because you don't have sweatshops, then Nike is either going to have to fold or turn its sweatshops into legitimate factories.
00:49:04.000Well, here's another example, John, and you're right.
00:49:07.000Ten years ago, I'd go grocery shopping and couldn't find organic food.
00:49:10.000Now, because the people demanded it, it created a market.
00:49:13.000Now, about half the food in Austin stores is organic, and it's starting to push out the other bad GMO stuff, so the government's trying to pass a law so they can deceptively label things.
00:49:26.000But, again, another example of if we just vote with our dollars and believe we have power, there's nothing we can't change.
00:49:38.000Europe has essentially gotten rid of GMOs.
00:49:40.000Even the big companies that use GMO products in this country, like Kellogg and Kraft and companies like that, are taking it out of the things they're selling in Europe because Europe demanded it.
00:50:23.000There's more of us than there are of the elite.
00:50:24.000I mean, I had Rothkopf on, again, former head of the Kissinger Group, who wrote this book, Superclass, and there he was in the Washington Post bragging, we're setting up world government of, for, and by the elites.
00:50:33.000And I had him on, and I said, why'd you come on?
00:52:20.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:52:23.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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00:54:28.000And I'm going to carry this one in our InfoWars.com bookstore.
00:54:31.000I meant to carry Confessions of an Economic Hitman and just didn't do it a few years ago when it came out because we got so busy.
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00:54:45.000Uh, at InfoWars.com and the Aaron Russo exclusive final interview he did before he died.
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00:54:56.000TerrorStorm, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
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00:55:02.000Every person you wake up is one step closer to us beating these bankers.
00:55:06.000They wouldn't be trying to silence free speech, intimidate people, carry out hits all over the third world if this wasn't the case.
00:55:13.000Before we take a few calls from Brazil and other places, John Perkins, one area we didn't get into today, but you've got to go in about 10 minutes, is what the jackals do, what the hitmen do.
00:55:23.000You were the guy trying to buy them off.
00:55:25.000You were the slick corporate operator.
00:55:27.000Explain what came next if folks didn't go along.
00:56:08.000Is that what started waking you up, is that you knew these guys really cared about their people, whether you agree with their politics or not?
00:56:16.000and you were seeing them, you know, one week you're having drinks with them and a week later they're dead.
00:56:21.000Yeah, I began to get the, really get the idea about late 1978, early 1979.
00:56:27.000I was called to Washington on a meeting at the Army and Navy Club with some retired admirals and generals.
00:56:33.000Uh, and read the Riot Act on an African president that they wanted me to corrupt, and if I couldn't do that, they were going to take him out.
00:57:00.000You know, I didn't have any personal involvement, and suddenly, I'm in these meetings in Washington with these generals and admirals, and I'm hearing this stuff.
00:57:09.000And then, I'm beginning to see the tremendous pressure that rolled over at Ecuador, and then they get assassinated, and I know there's no denying it anymore, and that's when I get the hell out, immediately.
00:57:20.000I quit on a day's notice, because suddenly, I really, really got it.
00:57:25.000And it made me absolutely sick and miserable and I hated myself and had to get out.
00:57:30.000And then a lot of good old boys say, yeah, we're going around killing people to take over.
00:57:35.000Now they're doing it in America with NORTHCOM.
00:57:46.000It came out, Cy Hirst reported, Cheney wanted to attack our own ships, but it got vetoed.
00:57:52.000What about government-sponsored terror?
00:57:53.000I mean, these generals are getting pretty ruthless.
00:57:56.000Well, look at the general that has just been given command of Afghanistan.
00:57:59.000I guess he hasn't been approved yet, but the one that's been proposed by the Special Forces Special Operations, you know, he's on record of having been involved in the torture in these places and also having given the command to have people around the world assassinated.
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01:00:39.000And the Pentagon, the higher-level brass, are just a bunch of hired mercenary thugs.
01:00:44.000Just like that chilling Rumsfeld conversation with the retired generals for the PR, where they're going, without another 9-11, we're not going to get this done.
01:01:10.000Greetings to one of the pioneers in alternative media worldwide, brother Alex Jones, and greetings to your distinguished audience that are coming out of the hypnotic trance.
01:01:19.000And greetings to your distinguished guest, Mr. John Perkins, who I'm very familiar with his work.
01:01:25.000So, I don't know how much time do I have on my cards.
01:01:32.000I'm familiar with the work of Mr. John Perkins.
01:01:35.000What I have seen in John Perkins Like I have seen in Chip Berlay and in Chamber Johnson and Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn, is that when they are putting it on the spot and they are in some particular very big media outlet, they are not outspoken about 9-1-1.
01:01:55.000I don't know why, but they keep it for themselves and they know that the 9-1-1 is a direct relation with our government and our military, and if they have already talked about that clearly and help it to open up the mind of all the people in the United States, which whom I am a citizen, probably the result will be different.
01:02:28.000You know, John Perkins was just talking about government staging events, but I don't ever blame people who politically don't go as far as I do or don't totally agree with me.
01:02:36.000As long as they're on the side of the good guys exposing corruption, You know, we should focus on the establishment, who's totally against this, instead of always fighting with each other about who agrees with this or who agrees with that.
01:02:48.000I don't know what John's position is on 9-11 being an inside job or not.
01:03:09.000Now, 9-11, I don't have any inside information, but what I will say, and I always say, is I have an extremely difficult time believing that a guy with a walkie-talkie from a cave in the Himalayas executed this by himself.
01:03:23.000I don't understand why the Pentagon had a hole blown in it, and no heads rolled, no generals lost their jobs, no videos ever been produced to show anything.
01:03:44.000You choose to go off what you know, and you went to the big military, and you've named the generals and people in your book, and you've had a lot of courage.
01:04:07.000I realize your work and what you have done.
01:04:09.000And thank you for informing us, the American people, about what you've done.
01:04:13.000My question to you, John, is what's going on right now in Afghanistan and Iraq and in Iran?
01:04:20.000Do you think that we have economic hitmen going to Iran, going to Afghanistan, and trying to bribe them before they bring in the jackals, as you mentioned, in our military?
01:04:31.000Alright, we'll get that answer on the other side.
01:06:20.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
01:06:23.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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01:08:19.000and And I'm just really excited to have John Perkins back up with us.
01:08:23.000Hopefully he'll come back in the next few months because this economic crisis is so serious.
01:09:21.000And it really gets into this, that I think we are at a threshold in human history right now, where things are in such entropy that we're going to come out of this either under a terrible dictatorship, uh... the um...
01:09:35.000the proper the most global dictatorship ever uh...
01:09:39.000in our history or we're going to come out on top and and i'm fighting for us coming out on top and i think we all need to get in there together we have tremendous power as individuals perhaps more now than ever because in essence this new empire is being created to economics through the way we shop to the way we live the people we watch on television today and messages we listen to on radio and television There's a classic struggle going on right now.
01:10:03.000So it's insidious that it's not an open military threat, and that's a strong suit, but it's also Achilles' heel because we have inherent power in the system.
01:10:12.000So you're saying you believe they are overplaying their hand and we've got a good chance on bringing this dragon down?
01:10:18.000I think they have overplayed their hand.
01:10:21.000There's a huge revolution going on in Latin America.
01:10:24.000Ten countries representing more than 80% of the population of South America have voted in very left-leaning, liberal, progressive, whatever you want to call it, presidents that are saying no to this.
01:10:34.000And I think in our last election, when we elected Obama, we said no.
01:10:38.000Whether Obama's going to go along with that or not is another question, but I think that's the symbolism, that's the message that was sent.
01:10:48.000And I think we've woken up here, but we need to keep waking up wider and wider and taking more action and not expect that Obama's going to do it for us.
01:11:11.000After he was elected, the women went out on the streets.
01:11:13.000Everywhere that man went, he was followed by women tickets.
01:11:16.000With huge signs that said, why should we fight for democracy in World War I and in Europe when half of our own country doesn't have the right to vote?
01:11:24.000We didn't get out of Vietnam because Richard Nixon was anti-war.
01:11:46.000And for far too long, we've let these people get away with convincing us that what we really want is the cheapest tennis shoes and t-shirts, even though slaves are making them.
01:12:51.000The other big problem with taking calls is callers always bring up such incredible angles and stories and things that I'll go on some rant or dissertation or they will.
01:13:23.000First one from George Washington, 1796.
01:13:29.000Towards the preservation of your government, it is requisite that you resist with care the spirit of innovation upon its principles, however specious the pretext.
01:13:42.000One method of assault may be to effect, in the form of the Constitution, alterations which will impair the energy of the system, and thus to undermine what cannot be directly overthrown.
01:13:59.000Which is exactly what I think has been going on for years here.
01:14:06.000Yeah, they act like the Bill of Rights and Constitution is still there, but really they use it as a doormat or toilet paper, and we've got this incredible tyranny over us because there's this illusion of freedom.
01:14:17.000We're going along with it, but now that illusion is starting to melt, and people are seeing the tyranny for what it is, but they don't have enough respect for themselves to believe they can fight back against it.
01:14:25.000We have to get people to rediscover the respect for themselves they have, and realize you're only alive once, and your destiny is to fight tyranny.
01:14:33.000And here's the answer to that question.
01:14:36.000There is an organization called National Center for Constitutional Studies.
01:14:50.000They have a course in the 28 principles of the Constitution on DVD, which I have got, and I have got 12 people who are coming to my house to watch this thing.
01:15:07.000It is transformational, because I think a lot of people know there's something wrong, but don't exactly know what it is.
01:15:17.000And this will give you the information and the background and in order to stand up for what's right, what you know is right, but you don't exactly know how to say it.
01:15:34.000We have breaking news here and the reason this upsets me is I heard this already last week from someone I know in the military but they wouldn't come on air.
01:15:44.000Kind of like my cousin came to my door five years ago and he's an officer and he said, yeah, we got called down to Fort Sam Houston for an officer meeting.
01:15:54.000There were 200 of us or so in the auditorium who were told it was classified And that everybody was going to be, all the officers were going to be getting chips within two years.
01:16:03.000Then I've seen him at family events once or twice a year now, and he won't talk to me about it.
01:16:07.000He says, I'm not going to talk to you about it.
01:16:48.000Bill in Congress would ban gun ownership at will.
01:16:51.000That is, give me the bill number on that, HR 2401.
01:16:58.000Then I actually printed off the other one, because I've been covering these over the last few days, and I wanted to give people All of it in detail.
01:17:46.000Watson, I already confirmed this with local Austin military, but they wouldn't come on air.
01:17:51.000So I just kinda was told this by someone I know personally, and then I just forgot about it last week, because I'm getting hit from too many angles here.
01:18:04.000I was sent a secret document about regular Army spying on us at the end of the Fed protest with Ron Paul's brother in Dallas and Ron Paul being spied on by regular Army in Houston on the end of the Fed protest last year in November.
01:18:17.000It was since confirmed the Army spying on us.
01:18:21.000This is the Department of the Army, Charlie Company 3, Battalion 187 Infantry Regiment, 3rd BCT.
01:19:47.000I've been getting calls about this and I had a face-to-face meeting last week and I said well give me documents and he said I'll try and now I've gotten a separate one.
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01:22:18.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:22:21.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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01:23:55.000OrganicaSeed.com You know, previously in my research, every six months or so, there'd be some story that made everything click into place and only confirmed our analysis.
01:24:14.000You know, as we follow this roadmap of the New World Order, we know the direction they're going in, but as things develop and time unfolds and this hindsight comes in with more of what they've done in the past, we get a clearer picture.
01:24:31.000This is one of those things also that I'd already knew about but couldn't triple confirm.
01:24:36.000So it's one of the things I just move on.
01:24:37.000Just like I have this FBI training video that'll make the MIAC thing look tame in comparison.
01:24:43.000I've been too busy for two weeks to even get it up.
01:24:46.000And I'm not whining, I'm just telling you folks, it almost just makes me fluster and, you know, get out of control here on air because the evidence of total tyranny world government admitted is just pouring in my beloved republic that my children live in, that my family has been here for, you know, since the Mayflower and founding Texas, and I love America!
01:25:05.000And it's being flushed down the toilet by a bunch of offshore banks!
01:25:08.000And they're making all the troops now in the army report in their private lives, you know, and they're now doing this phased in.
01:25:18.000Even those that are off duty or those that are on leave or those that have their own separate homes to list all their firearms and make model and serial number.
01:25:31.000And most of the veterans I know can't buy guns now.
01:25:34.000They've already implemented all of this.
01:25:36.000Clinton banned 86,000 vets from owning guns for no reason.
01:25:39.000Remember when he left, but it only continued.
01:25:41.000The no-fly list for veterans, that is the no-owned guns under the no-fly list, is already in place.
01:25:47.000I'm going to break that down and then go back to your calls.
01:25:49.000But Paul Watson, I just emailed you at your DJ account.
01:25:56.000All active duty members heads up and this just came in minutes ago and about 30 minutes ago we did some checking on it and confirmed that this is the battalion that this went out and just like people were in denial about the MIAC or the DHS report or all the other reports we've broken Or the Secret Army reports how they're spying on us, and later it comes out in mainstream news.
01:26:45.000Of all firearms I currently possess, in addition, I was also required to list registration information, location of all weapons individually, and information regarding any CCW permits I possess.
01:26:58.000If you are like me, then the people you work with know you have firearms, so I had to list at least one.
01:27:05.000I tried to talk to my first sergeant, who's normally approachable through proper channels, to find out what this is for, and I was basically told, just put your info on the form.
01:27:14.000I don't know how high this goes, but I'm hearing that this is going on in other units at Fort Campbell as well.
01:27:19.000See, I heard this was going on in Austin.
01:27:21.000You can put two and two together where I heard it from, but I'm just going to leave it at that.
01:27:28.000It just seems a little coincidental to me that within 90 days, the most anti-firearm president in history is inaugurated, some of the nastiest anti-firearm laws are put on the table in Washington, and the Army comes around wanting What amounts to registration of all firearms, even if they are off post, and doesn't provide any real information or purposes as to why.
01:28:06.000I saw all these police videos from around the country, Indiana, California, you name it, where cops run up and boot kick suspects in the head when the guys have got their hands out, and then the police defend it and say, they were just positioning his head.
01:28:19.000They kick the head, blood's flowing, you know, just boom, total power, guy's knocked out, and they go, that isn't physical assault, you can just kill somebody.
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01:31:20.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:31:23.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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01:33:18.000You know, even if you hate the Second Amendment and believe all Americans should be disarmed, if you're stupid enough to believe that guns are bad and that they come out of their cases at night and kill people, you should be against a bill HR1022 racing through, he's got a bunch of sponsors, that allows, this is a quote, AG to ban guns at will.
01:33:42.000He can just ban any guns he wants at will.
01:34:11.0002159 that says if you are on any type of terror list or crime list or any intelligence list, that's the no-fly list, that you can't own a gun, they're going to come confiscate them and you can't buy them.
01:34:20.000Then, if anybody doubted that, there's another bill saying if you're on a no-fly list, over a million Americans on it and growing, totally innocent, No judge, no jury, nobody you can face, no accuser you can face.
01:34:32.000This is the end of the whole Bill of Rights and Constitution.
01:34:34.000I mean, he could be on secret lists and have rights taken away.
01:34:36.000I mean, this is worse than the Soviet Union.
01:34:38.000They would make stuff up there of why they were grabbing him and bring him before some kangaroo court.
01:34:43.000Obama says he's for indefinite secret detention.
01:35:04.000Looks like it's selective, because I called some people I know in the military and they said they'd heard about it, but it hadn't happened to them.
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01:35:55.000Number one, effective 11th March 09, all choppin' soldiers in possession of privately owned weapons are required to inform their chain of command of the following.
01:36:06.000Registration number, location where weapon is stored.
01:36:08.000This will create the bureaucracy in the military.
01:36:16.000Possession of a concealed carry permit and issuing state.
01:36:18.000If any soldier comes into possession of a privately owned weapon following the effective date of the memorandum, he is required to inform the chain of command of the information above.
01:36:26.000This is going to be in share with the local police, by the way.
01:36:29.000By signing this memorandum, I understand our responsibilities concerning privately owned weapons and describing this memorandum.
01:37:15.000But then under it, blurb in with how they're training them in DHS to go after vets, training the Boy Scouts to go after the vets, all the training manuals about going after vets, the secret police they're setting up, all of this.
01:37:41.000Yeah, the one, no fly, no by list, that one's got very little attention in the media, from what I can tell today.
01:37:52.000All the media are talking about is this amendment that's just passed the Senate to be approved in the House, which allows people to carry firearms in national parks.
01:38:04.000So all the attention's going on that, whereas there's legislation in the works that would virtually eliminate Second Amendment rights for anyone who the government declares to be a terrorist, which as we know, according to their own DHS lexicon documents is basically about half of the US population at least.
01:38:41.000Yeah, you've got a right, a right to hand them in to us.
01:38:44.000And, I mean, look at this flotilla of bills.
01:38:47.000And then they write national news stories attacking us by name and others, saying we're crazy liars that make up that Obama's introduced gun bills when all the top senators and House members are doing it as chief of staff is flogging the bills through Congress.
01:39:02.000I mean, you've got the White House arm-twisting for gun control, the worst ever seen.
01:40:09.000Paul, do you understand what a big deal this is?
01:40:12.000You understand what a big deal this is?
01:40:14.000Indeed, but from what I can see on the NRA website, They're not even talking about the no-fly, no-buy.
01:40:23.000They're not talking about... Listen, when we were... They were going to ban gun shows, and they were going to ban people under 18, Junior Olympics, and 4A shooting, and YMCA shooting.
01:40:36.000And I went to the hearings, and hundreds of Texans went, and the NRA was in the Dallas Morning News attacking me, calling the local Texas Rifle Association extremist.
01:40:49.000The NRA introduced the 68 Gun Control Act.
01:41:51.000Believe me, the power of this audience, we're going to punch this into the mainstream media, and we're going to piggyback on this article, the stuff that's not in the mainstream.
01:41:58.000Fox News did one blurb, kind of going, well, maybe it takes the Second Amendment to secretly ban you owning guns.
01:42:22.000I talked to somebody I know separately that works at YouTube, high level, but they can't come on record.
01:42:27.000We did get emails from them saying, why don't you guys file a federal filing challenging these because it does look like these may be fake.
01:42:38.000So last week with Dave that runs the channel, we filed in federal court That's the level we had to go to.
01:42:47.000He was swearing in federal court that it was fake, that it was wrong, and it did turn out that they were fake copyright notices.
01:42:54.000And now the court's looking into who filed them.
01:42:57.000And folks, I don't think it's going to be up there too long again.
01:43:01.000They'll just file more criminal deals.
01:49:21.000In fact, I've never done this, they had a laser blazer tag for a birthday party for some neighbor kids, so I went and it was my first time playing and the little kids kept running up going, oh no, green team and red team are having a truce, and then when I turned my back they'd shoot me.
01:49:37.000Even these five-year-olds who played it all the time knew it was all about lying.
01:49:42.000See, a five-year-old militarily knows that, but the public can't get it.
01:49:48.000Anyway, yesterday morning on WTAW at 1620 out of Bryan College Station, I heard a report that says...
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01:50:01.000Oh yeah, they got Germans, Czech Republic, Polish, Filipino, Mexican troops, biggest recruiting stations for the military are now overseas.
01:50:10.000They're making the military up of foreigners and then gangbangers.
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01:53:57.000Yeah, the Establishment thinks they've got us in a stranglehold.
01:54:18.000They just incrementally take our freedoms, but now it's accelerating.
01:54:22.000As the boa constrictor gets fully wound around the Republic, our eyes are bulging out, the snake's up in our face while it's coiled around us going, I'm your friend, don't fight back, don't resist, everything will be okay soon.
01:54:33.000You're about to pass out and it's going, good, stand down, good.
01:55:11.000And meanwhile, the troops are being told, okay, come in privately, you own guns at your home, you know, you go and leave, you know, your wife's living back at home, you're in Iraq.
01:55:20.000They're coming in and saying, all right, fill out your firearms, what you own at home.
01:55:25.000Totally illegal, totally criminal, they have no law, no right to do it.
01:55:29.000But see, they can intimidate the soldiers, just like, you gotta take this experimental anthrax shot, boy.
01:55:34.000Well, under federal law, they can't even make troops take something that's experimental.
01:55:37.000They can, quote, make them take regular vaccines, but not something experimental.
01:55:40.000Then they take it and die, and they go, he's a good soldier, dead as ordered.
01:55:44.000Kind of like the troops that take a nerve gas and all the admitted tests and kill them.
01:56:07.000Now get over there and take them Iraqis' guns, and then next we'll have the younger generation troops take yours.
01:56:13.000You stupid trooper, you don't know we injected you with a recombinant RNA virus that within a certain hormonal flux at age 50 to 60 is going to kill you dead in a hammer of cancer.
01:58:01.000Man, it's just, okay, you like being mind-controlled, go ahead.
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02:01:45.000I just always wonder why callers tell me they're from one place, and they correct me on air that they're from another.
02:01:50.000Well, I'm actually in France, but I didn't want to give my real identity also, because I wasn't sure, but I'm originally... Let's just say you're from Pluto.
02:02:15.000I really, I've never wanted a gun more in my life than now, simply because the Constitution tells us that we're allowed to have one.
02:02:25.000And as you say many times, I listened to you since the end of last summer.
02:02:34.000You know, when you're in New Jersey, it's like The worst place to be, one of the worst states to be in because the people are so, you talk about the Constitution and they say that it's not worth, you know, it's just a piece of paper and it doesn't give you any rights whatsoever.
02:02:51.000I love how, because the Bill of Rights and Constitution isn't enforced, and a bunch of enemies have usurped us, that'd be like if guys broke in and raped your wife and stabbed her five times and you came home and bitched at her and said, because you got raped and stabbed, I don't love you anymore, instead of being mad at the people that did it.
02:03:57.000And I know that I've been learning French for a long time, and when you talk about the dumbing down of the, you know, the students and just the populace in general, you know, I for some reason was able to teach myself how to play piano, and I've taught myself how to speak very fluently French, and I made nothing but enemies, and whereas my friends were, you know, one of my friends was given a job
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02:06:20.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
02:06:23.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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02:09:04.000Because, you know, if we're going to kill a million, 300,000 Iraqis illegally and torture people and have secret arrest, you know, we're going to violate your rights, too.
02:09:11.000And remember, the Homeland Security, number one, threats the vet.
02:09:15.000Because they know you're willing to fight.
02:09:16.000You're not going to like the bankers doing this to your country.
02:09:19.000And they're training the youth squads in the New York Times reports to hunt you down.
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02:09:50.000I want him to just give us a briefing on what happened after we last talked to him on Friday.
02:09:54.000It's in the newspaper, Leningradian, how they followed him everywhere and tried to detain him again, and he got in a fracas with them, and it got pretty crazy.
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02:10:48.000Okay, that said, let's go to... And you know, I get wound up and start yelling and screaming in here.
02:10:53.000Because I'm sick and tired of the government claiming it's patriotic and good when it's a bunch of globalists openly that want to get rid of U.S.
02:13:32.000And it dovetails, I know Paul's beefing it right now, it dovetails with all these bills where secretly you're put on a list and can't own guns.
02:13:41.000Let's go to Charlie Skelton, London Guardian reporter.
02:13:44.000One of the biggest papers on the globe.
02:13:46.000He goes over there kind of half-jokingly, you know, to do a report on it, finds out just how serious it is.
02:13:51.000He's been arrested twice, harassed, followed everywhere.
02:14:01.000He was in the air when we were on the air, and so now he joins us for the first time since last Friday.
02:14:05.000Mr. Skelton, give us a quick rundown of what happened to you Friday night when you were on till Monday morning when you left Greece for Bilderberg 2009.
02:14:46.000Well, what happened to me is I was getting so harassed in the resort where the Bilderberg Conference was happening over the weekend that I couldn't take it anymore and I left.
02:15:00.000And even as I was leaving, I was hailing a cab and I was held at the side of the road.
02:15:06.000And they came around me again asking me what I was doing, you know, checking my name.
02:15:11.000But this time it was a private security company.
02:16:59.000I'm prefacing pretty much every sentence I speak at the moment with, I know this sounds crazy, but... I know this sounds crazy, but... Anyway, I grab them, we have a tussle in the Greek metro station, and this has gone crazy at this point, I don't know, I'm shouting for the police, I'm shouting help.
02:17:16.000Police come, I get detained, the other two get waved away.
02:17:20.000These two guys were starting to give orders to the uniformed police at this point.
02:17:23.000Anyway, to cut a long story short, the harassment went on, I was told all the way up the chain, I kept pursuing, I kept asking different departments who is pursuing me.
02:17:35.000For some reason they gave me an appointment at the Department of Government Security.
02:17:40.000And this is the department within the state police for protecting a special secret, not secret department, plainclothes detective department within the Greek police for looking after the government and politicians and government buildings.
02:17:53.000And I went up there I was given a complete stonewall by them.
02:17:59.000They said, no, you're not being followed.
02:18:00.000Have you got the numbers of the bikes they're on?
02:18:20.000On the sixth floor of this building, of the government security building, is one of the guys that originally followed me in Athens when I got out of the cab.
02:19:25.000And he looks at me and he says, you didn't see a man.
02:19:28.000Yeah, but see, that's the New World Order mind game.
02:19:31.000They say there's no Bilderberg Group, there's no North American Union, there's no European Union, there's no Madoff, there's no Enron, there's no 14.8 trillion stolen.
02:19:45.000television, they're being given this by psychiatrists, kicking people, drop-kicking people in the head, saying, that's not a kick, we're adjusting his head.
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02:21:58.000In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.
02:22:04.000We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.
02:22:10.000The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
02:22:19.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
02:22:21.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
02:24:04.000I apologize to some of them we're holding.
02:24:06.000I've got to get comments from military because I confirmed last week that they've been asking some of the units here in Texas, in the Army and National Guard, to fill out what guns they've got at home under orders.
02:24:18.000We did a Google search on this, found out World Net Daily on March 21st.
02:24:50.000Well, obviously a commander isn't going to, without being ordered, Everybody on the base, tell me what guns you privately own, you know, if you live three states away or right outside the base.
02:25:26.000Because he could have had those officers behind him, they would have kept playing, they teach them Delphi technique in other psychological schools, how to just freak people out, to just end the debate right there.
02:25:37.000He could have been the guy following you in the desk.
02:25:40.000He would have said, you're not feeling well.
02:25:42.000And then the Soviet Union, they said, take him away, give him injections.
02:25:46.000And then six months later, being given, you know, five, ten times the safe dosage of antipsychotics, they'll bring you into court drooling and say, see, he's mentally ill, commit him permanently to the state.
02:26:04.000So, see, the next step, if you would have stayed and Greece kept doing this, would have been electroshock therapy.
02:26:09.000And, see, I'm not joking, Mr. Stelton.
02:26:11.000It would have been, he's insane, he sees imaginary things, and you could try to bring news articles in before the judge saying, look, it was in the newspaper, Bilderberg's real, and he would say, everyone knows you are insane.
02:29:04.000There were a couple of times when I got lied to by various people in various departments of the state police and the police generally, that I stopped being able to look at people.
02:29:13.000When they started telling me a lie, I got so embarrassed for them, I had to look away.
02:31:20.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
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02:33:35.000Running around in foreign countries, imaginary secret groups running the planet.
02:33:40.000Now you can open any major newspaper and read about how they're setting up a bank of the world, we'll pay our carbon taxes, a world government, a new world order.
02:33:48.000But if you're for it, Charlie, it exists and you're a member of society and can come down to the Oxford Club and, you know, where you went to school and hang out.
02:33:57.000But if you say it's bad, you're a dangerous extremist who's mentally ill.
02:34:02.000So, Charlie, you need to go ahead and make the decision.
02:34:05.000It's like Karl Rove told the New York Times, they control reality.
02:34:09.000They're history's actors and all of us don't count.
02:34:12.000And he said they would change the reality from week to week and we wouldn't believe the new reality.
02:34:16.000And for all the yuppies, that's what they do.
02:34:18.000They like to feel like they're winners, so nothing can be above them.
02:34:58.000And I said to him, I looked around the room, there's three of them in there, and I said, you know, including the guy I'm talking to who's very high up in the Department of Government Security and... Hold on, let me back up.
02:35:12.000And he said, do something that's rude?
02:35:15.000Well, you know, he said, my mouth fell open with absolute shock at the fact that he'd simply denied the fact that I'd seen this guy that had been following me, realizing he's a policeman.
02:36:32.000They mainly kidnap children and deal heroin.
02:36:35.000And I'm serious when I say that, and so, you know, to them it was a big joke.
02:36:39.000They were there, the big heroin dealers sent them out, that's what Bilderberg does, laundered the money, and you know, big super bosses are in town that their bosses work for, and so to them it was a big joke to terrorize a British slave who thought he was free.
02:37:14.000And when I left, I talked to one of the... one of the younger ones who escorted me out of the building at this point, because I thought, well, that's it.
02:37:22.000And I was escorted out of the building, and...
02:37:25.000I was on the way down the stairs, I looked at the guy, and I said, listen, you know that when you tell a lie, tell a lie like that, it makes you less of a person.
02:37:34.000And, do you know, to his credit, he looked ashamed, because I just felt at that point, like I had nothing else to cling on to except the truth about the situation, the truth that these lies are being told to me.
02:37:46.000See, Charlie, to them, to them they have the force.
02:37:50.000They have the power and the guns, so they say that makes their lie real.
02:37:55.000That's like Austin cops when I was in front of the Dine Corps building and I said, you know, they run giant child kidnapping rings, congressional hearings, and the Austin cops laughed and said, yeah, big deal, you know, I do work in there.
02:38:06.000So to them it was like by making it a joke, it didn't exist.
02:38:10.000Now I was a real guy telling them something real.
02:38:13.000But see, they weren't involved in child kidnapping.
02:38:16.000But, by making a joke about it, you see they become accomplices.
02:38:20.000See, it's all real funny until it happens to their kid.
02:38:24.000Or until they're sitting there dying of cancer when they're 45 because they took the shots.
02:38:30.000But you know what, what I have to take away from it though is a few important things, which is, you know, I was stopped and searched, stopped and searched so much, and told to show my papers so much, like, I mean, you know, it was horrific the amount of times I was having to just show who I was, give my father's name, how long was I staying there.
02:38:49.000I've become rabidly anti-ID cards, and by extension microchipping, because that's just, that's just game over.
02:38:58.000I can see that now, and I didn't know that before, and I know that now because I've lived in a weird little kind of reality show police state for the last week.
02:39:08.000And you know, I'm not kidding, I'm not joking, I did, and it was horrific.
02:39:13.000And I was scared for my, you know, I was scared for my safety.
02:39:15.000I jumped into a random cab at one point and sped to the British Embassy, which happened to be closed.
02:39:27.000Anyway, but you know, these things were happening to me and, you know, then Bilderberg was happening at the same time and then no one was there.
02:39:34.000The press wasn't there, you know, and I was being chased around at Athens Metro Station and, you know, it was quite crazy and quite surreal but But the surrealist thing of all is that, you know, where was the media?
02:40:00.000You know, the whole thing is just this crazy bubble of questions.
02:40:04.000Because if CNN admits Bilderberg exists, that then legitimizes everything we've done.
02:40:11.000But instead, by them still denying it exists, that's just discredited them.
02:40:15.000But they're still in this delusional world where they're going, no, the emperor's wearing the finest clothes, and we're going, no, he's butt naked.
02:40:21.000And they're like, but we have SWAT teams.
02:40:23.000And we go, that still won't put food in our bellies.
02:40:26.000And they're like, but we have SWAT teams.
02:40:28.000And we go, yeah, but we have the truth.
02:40:30.000And they're like, but we have bird flu we can scare you with.
02:40:34.000I've got callers from here in Iraq and many others with inside reports on the Department of the Army telling veterans they've got to secretly register their guns even in their own private homes.
02:40:45.000But finishing up with you, Mr. Skelton from the London Guardian.
02:40:49.000We'll have you back up in the future, probably with Jim Tucker later in the week if you can do it with both of you because Jim's just gotten back.
02:40:55.000We're giving him time to rest and then have him on.
02:40:58.000Because, you know, this does chart the future of the world.
02:40:59.000We've proven they really are calling the shots for most of the planet Bilderberg.
02:41:04.000And, of course, so it's not newsworthy and the media won't touch it because it's so important.
02:41:16.000Well, I had that fear in the pit of my stomach that suddenly, from being stonewalled and being let out, I'd actually suddenly uncovered something.
02:41:44.000I sent a copy to the Guardian as soon as I could, because you know when you know something, and you know something's happened, you have to share it instantly, because then information's out there.
02:42:08.000Well, I sent it off and, you know, I just sat there absolutely shell-shocked and I came home, you know, and I've just been sitting here like a vegetable.
02:42:20.000I'm absolutely exhausted by the whole thing, but I'm also determined to go back again next year and to get people to bring their cameras.
02:42:31.000Why is the Guardian running a photo of you from your comedian work wearing a clown mask?
02:42:36.000I mean, I guess the Guardian can only report on this if they put you in a clown mask on the cover.
02:44:20.000My name's Joe, I'm from California, and I was formerly a unit armorer at Fort Campbell, Kentucky.
02:44:27.000I'm not sure if you know, I'm sure most of your leaders know the hierarchy in the Army, and not that I want to take away from this, but I think it should be viewed in its proper perspective.
02:44:36.000One, military members are basically non-citizens.
02:44:40.000They've given up their rights under the Bill of Rights, and they...
02:44:54.000They can't make troops take experimental vaccines.
02:44:56.000They can't order troops to rape children.
02:44:58.000They can't order troops to march in and be nerve gas in a test, which they've done.
02:45:02.000So, I mean, to tell somebody we want to know at your private home or off base what guns you own?
02:45:09.000I mean, you're really saying that they don't have any rights?
02:45:14.000If I have a car that I use to drive and in that state has an insurance law, the commander can have a safety briefing, which every one of them does every weekend before the soldiers take off to go get drunk and do whatever they do.
02:45:26.000He can inspect every vehicle and make sure that all the taillights work, there's no broken glass if the registration's up to date, and they have current insurance.
02:45:35.000And if they don't, he can confiscate their keys right there.
02:45:39.000Listen, that's them telling you they have that power, and that's if you bring that stuff on base.
02:45:44.000What I'm telling you is, do you believe that troops can be forced to take experimental anthrax and smallpox shots?
02:45:50.000Well, we're talking totally different subjects.
02:45:52.000Let's try to speak to the subject matter at hand.
02:47:26.000Uh, I was deployed then, when it came out.
02:47:29.000I haven't heard anything, though I will say, when I came back from my last deployment, with 607, they did, uh, take all firearms from us, for the ones that had firearms, for I think it was, what, 30 days?
02:47:43.000Because of so-called psychological issues, they put him in the arms room.
02:47:47.000No, but, I mean, they got him back after that, but... So to be clear, yeah, I read about that.
02:47:52.000The troops are so untrusted that for a month after you get back from Iraq, all your weapons are taken.
02:48:19.000Separately, I heard about this a week ago and forgot about it.
02:48:21.000Then I saw this email and article, found out WorldNetDaily weeks ago had reported on it, and that they'd said it was just that base commander doing it.
02:48:28.000But I'm telling you, I have talked to military people that say that they're being told to do this, so I'm putting the call out For military to call in and tell us if this is happening on your base.
02:48:46.000I just wanted to say that, like, I mean, most times I've been looking here for, I don't know, about three months now, and it's like, you seem to be demonizing military almost as much as DHS is.
02:48:57.000I mean, you, it seems like most times I hear you kind of refer to us almost as the jackbooted thugs, when in all reality, I mean, as Stuart Roach has said multiple times, we're the ones who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution.
02:49:13.000You're totally missing what I'm saying.
02:49:15.000Listen, sir, you're totally missing it.
02:49:18.000You know the biggest army recruiting stations are in the Czech Republic, they're in the Philippines, they're in Ukraine or Mexico City.
02:49:38.000Against the military training to take on the American people, and I've been to the drills, I've witnessed it, North Com's announcing they're going to occupy the U.S.
02:49:48.000That, and I've had former JAG generals on saying it's unconstitutional and wrong.
02:49:52.000I am against the military being misused.
02:49:55.000If I was a German in 1937, I wouldn't be against the German military, I'd be against the direction the leader, the Fuhrer, was taking it.
02:50:04.000So, I'm pointing out that they're trying to cut the military's benefits, and I defended that not happening.
02:50:09.000I'm pointing out that they do tests on the military.
02:50:12.000I'm saying the brass in the higher-ups, like last hour I had John Perkins, you know, work for the NSA, taking over third world countries.
02:50:20.000He'd go get orders from his generals about, you tell this person to do what we say or we're going to kill him.
02:50:25.000I'm saying our government doesn't work for us anymore.
02:50:28.000Do you understand how that's separate from you, Peter?
02:50:33.000No, I totally understand that, and I kind of woke up my laugh playing it because I'm like, wow, doing this stuff here, you know, they don't have the Constitution, but if I ever, you know, as a cop, I had to do what we're doing in the States, it would like violate like half the damn amendments in the Constitution.
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