Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he. We are live, ladies and gentlemen. This Thursday, the 19th of March 2009, we are going to be live here for the next 4 hours. We have Dr. Chuck Baldwin, a Constitutional Party Presidential Candidate in 2008, who was listed as a terrorist leader by the U.S. government. Also, we have Commander David K. Robin of the American Legion, outraged by the Obama administration's plan to make all veterans pay for their own health care. And we have author Jeff Grubb, author of Corporativism, The Secret Government of the New World Order, joining us in the show today.
00:00:12.000He's Alex Jones We are live ladies and gentlemen Thank you so much for joining us today.
00:00:31.000This Thursday, the 19th of March 2009, we're going to be live here for the next four hours.
00:00:38.000We have Dr. Chuck Baldwin, Constitutional Party presidential candidate 2008, who was basically listed as a terrorist leader by the state police.
00:00:48.000Propaganda document put out in Missouri, written by the feds, and that's what the document does.
00:00:59.000Robin of the American Legion joining us, outraged by the fact that they're going to make all veterans pay for their own health care.
00:01:08.000Now, that's CNN, ladies and gentlemen, and they put a spin on it and say it's good.
00:01:13.000So basically, you'll have to get your own insurance when your arms and legs get blown off, or you breathe nerve gas, or you get shot.
00:01:21.000You know, more than 15,000 troops have died in Iraq.
00:01:24.000They just changed the rules seven years ago, as they were building up for the war.
00:01:30.000We've now passed the six-year mark for being in Iraq, but seven years ago they changed the accounting rule, kind of like they've changed all the other federal statistics that were always somewhat fraudulent, but now even more fraudulent, to where if you're not looking for employment anymore and you just dropped out of society, which tens of millions have done, you just are counted as employed.
00:01:55.000Isn't that interesting how they cook the numbers there?
00:01:59.000You can pull this up, you can just Google it, the government admits it.
00:02:02.00015,000 plus troops five years in, I haven't looked at it in a year, have died of their injuries since they left Iraq.
00:02:13.000And I mean, they can die on a jet, medical aircraft, flying them to New York City or to D.C.
00:02:20.000or to Virginia or to Rammstein in Germany, and it doesn't count.
00:02:26.000So, uh, when I say 5,000 died in the Obama deception, I'm just going with what they're officially, uh, spinning and saying.
00:02:33.000Not even counting the, uh, 1,000-plus dead contractors, uh, as well, so it's well above that.
00:02:41.000Continuing, we have Stuart Rhodes from Oath Keepers coming on the show.
00:02:46.000This is a group of police and military saying they're going to keep their oaths to not violate the Bill of Rights and Constitution under criminal orders from either the commander-in-chief or their direct commanders in the military and police departments, police chiefs and others.
00:03:51.000I gave a speech on the radio this morning to a crowd saying that, well, we're going to fix the illegal alien problem because we're just going to legalize them.
00:03:59.000The American people want to legalize them.
00:04:01.000They just want them to be official and legal and have papers.
00:04:06.000And so, get ready for that as well, but just off the charts report, PrisonPlanet.com, Paul Watson, House passes mandatory National Service Bill.
00:04:18.000The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory National Service programs as fears about President Obama's promised Civilian National Security Force intensify.
00:04:33.000Watson's being too timid here, like he always is.
00:04:36.000If you read the bill that passed, it says forced service, so I'm going to read it.
00:06:21.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
00:06:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
00:08:40.000I mean, when they're marching down the street in massive brigades, will that intensify fears?
00:08:46.000You see, we get accused constantly of exaggerating.
00:08:48.000No, I have to call Kurt Nemo, Paul, Steve, Aaron, constantly and say, hey, you didn't put the fact that they added Ron Paul and bumper stickers in this Mayak report.
00:08:58.000I didn't see that in there, I can't believe that.
00:09:39.000This is why, if you study criminology, people let con artists in their houses, it's why women get in cars with killers, because, oh, he was a nice man, he was wearing a suit, you know, Ted Bundy.
00:09:51.000Of the few women that escaped, and finally that's why he got caught, was, oh, he was so clean cut, I couldn't believe a serial killer would be clean cut.
00:10:00.000And so because all these politicians are wearing fancy suits up there and have fancy teleprompters and, you know, big curtain backdrops behind them, people get conned.
00:10:09.000It's worse than we can even describe here, ladies and gentlemen, the full spectrum of deception and disinformation by the establishment media.
00:10:36.000PaulWatsonPrisonPlanet.com The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama's promised civilian national security force intensify.
00:10:51.000I mean, why would we be wondering if he's going to do it when his chief of staff wrote a book about it, Obama's given a bunch of speeches, Rahm Emanuel has, it was on change.gov, we exposed it and they pulled it, saying mandatory service for Middle school, high school, college, adults, seniors.
00:12:11.000What do we have, Benny Hinn is the President?
00:12:14.000The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by 321 to 105 margin, and now goes to the Senate.
00:12:26.000And the Senate's usually worse along these socialism-fascism lines, so it looks like it's gonna pass.
00:12:49.000In subsection B6, The legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed.
00:13:30.000And then two months later, they're saying, ah, it's going to be permanent.
00:13:33.000So don't worry, we're just looking at mandatory service.
00:13:36.000We're just seeing how we can do this in a workable fashion.
00:13:39.000Well, they've already said how they're going to do it.
00:13:40.000They've been setting it up for 20 years.
00:13:43.000It's called Secure Corps, a division of AmeriCorps.
00:13:47.000And they've got pilot programs from Illinois, to Pennsylvania, to Texas, to California, where they turn the entire school into a government-run military academy for boys and girls.
00:13:59.000And the kids are told, you can't own guns, you can't shoot guns, your parents are bad, Second Amendment's bad.
00:14:04.000But then, oh, would you like to go to the shooting range with M-16s?
00:14:13.000And then right out of high school, they're going to go into the brigades.
00:14:15.000You can go read the Philadelphia Daily News article from six years ago, where they laid it all out.
00:14:26.000And it said in the article, That they had the high school students training with M6 teams and training with the SWAT teams and Army on how to go door-to-door and do cordon operations, locking down cities and how to do fugitive apprehension.
00:14:49.000They beta tested, they're getting ready to roll it out, and now you're slack-jawed Drug-head, know-it-all, video game players have been playing all these violent games, who've all been primed for this.
00:15:02.000They're gonna love their new authority through the government, and they're gonna be running around in their uniforms, and they'll come to the, you know, dinner table at night and bosh you around, and, hey mom, hey dad, I'm with the Hitler youth now.
00:15:12.000I mean, this has been done everywhere, and this is the... Mao did it, Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Lenin did it, Pol Pot did it, Fidel Castro did it.
00:15:21.000This is the most stinking, out-of-control, Tyranny you can get.
00:15:26.000I just want to tell all the young snot-nosed punks.
00:15:30.000Don't try running a checkpoint with me.
00:15:35.000I can't handle the scumbag bankers robbing this country, and the classical tyranny they're setting up, and the dumbass public that doesn't know that tyranny's looking down the barrel of a gun at them.
00:15:47.000I'm sorry, I'm just getting angry, folks.
00:15:49.000I just... It's just really starting to get to me.
00:15:54.000Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled Duties, it says a fair and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all abled young people could be developed.
00:16:05.000And they admit this is a military draft for a million person domestic military, and it says in the... I need to... I can't remember the exact code.
00:16:37.000Pentagon announces or Pentagon launches new civilian force.
00:16:42.000PrisonPlanet.com Pentagon launches new civilian force.
00:16:46.000PrisonPlanet.com Print that for me, please, so I can give people the actual Code on that, okay.
00:16:56.000Section 120 of the bill also discusses the youth engagement zone program and states that service learning to the public schools will just be complete drone brainwashing indoctrination camps now, re-education camps.
00:17:10.000Section 120 of the bill also discusses the Youth Engagement Zone Program and states that service learning will be a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools' service by local educational agency.
00:18:35.000Under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the National Volunteer Program to 250,000.
00:18:40.000We'll also create an additional Corps to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Future Corps, and Veterans Service Corps.
00:18:51.000So they're going to have the military, when you get out of the military, you'll be domestic military.
00:18:55.000And expands the National Civilian Community Corps, that's it, he's got a link to it, to focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation.
00:19:06.000And then he's got links to the mainstream news reporting all this.
00:19:08.000The Senate is also considering a similar piece of legislation known as the Serve America Act, which also includes language about youth engagement zones.
00:19:17.000Here's about Obama's plans to create involuntary servitude were first stoked in July 2008 when Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, we cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we have set.
00:19:30.000We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
00:19:40.000I'm gonna cover it more with Chuck Baldwin.
00:19:42.000But, but, first, when we get back, uh, they're gotten caught with their pants down on this issue with the loopholes on the bailout money, uh, going into people's bank accounts.
00:21:22.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
00:21:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
00:21:59.000On the average, Americans work between 45 to 50 years hoping to build up enough wealth to retire and live out their golden years.
00:22:06.000Unfortunately, with taxation, the rising cost of food, energy, housing, and medical, many retirees are forced to live below the poverty line.
00:22:14.000Is this a flaw-free enterprise, or is our monetary unit we call the Federal Reserve Note forcing us into perpetual debt Ensuring inflation and higher taxes.
00:22:22.000These questions and more can be answered by reading G. Edward Griffin's book, The Creature from Jekyll Island.
00:22:28.000Congressman Ron Paul states, it's what every American needs to know about central bank power.
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00:24:00.000Alright, let me give you one of their favorite tricks, one of their favorite tactics.
00:24:05.000All right, let me give you one of their favorite tricks, one of their favorite tactics, and I'll get into this banking scam news, the latest developments there.
00:24:12.000They will announce carbon taxes after hyping up the earth dying, everything's being destroyed, carbon dioxide's deadly poison, the polar bears are drowning, all these lies.
00:24:24.000And then they'll have the federal government proposed satellite tracker boxes in all cars, taxes on your homes, taxes on literally every product out there.
00:24:45.000We have no plans to do that at this time.
00:24:48.000Obama came out two weeks ago and said, we're going to make veterans of all wars, including the current one, get their own insurance and then pay for their own health care.
00:25:48.000It says, Obama changes course on veterans health care.
00:25:52.000President Obama has a reverse course on a plan to have the private health insurance of veterans pay for health care.
00:25:58.000White House spokesman Robert Gibbs issued a statement Wednesday saying the proposal had been floated.
00:26:02.000This is WhiteHouse.gov in his briefing room page.
00:26:05.000Quote, maximize the resources available for veterans as well as keep costs down for Veterans Administration.
00:26:10.000Gibbs said that after consulting with several leaders, the president now believes the move could affect the ability of veterans and their families to have access to health care.
00:26:43.000Point is, they have a lot of quack schools over there like Mexico does.
00:26:46.000And there's a bunch of quack doctors that's come out in the news.
00:26:49.000People don't even have real medical degrees.
00:26:50.000You know, cutting off the wrong leg or leaving tools inside people, you know, Russian doctors, you name it.
00:26:57.000So, that's going on, and so they'll just make it very hard for you to get healthcare and then say you just need to have your own insurance.
00:27:06.000So, as huge opposition mounts when they introduce it, they then back off and then they'll be right back in a month with it again.
00:27:13.000And then they'll deny they ever said it again, and then they'll come right back with it again.
00:27:17.000And then about the third or fourth time, they'll go ahead and do it.
00:27:20.000They'll just get you sick of talking about it and get you acclimated.
00:27:24.000Every time the outrage grows to a crescendo that's about to spill out and actually hurt the establishment, they back off and say, we never said that, or, well, we're not going to do that now.
00:27:38.000And so as people start organizing against this, they go, OK, we're not doing it now.
00:27:41.000Organization falls apart, they're right back.
00:27:44.000Kind of like the Associated Press a month and a half ago, headline, Trans-Texas Corridor, part of Napa Superhighway grid, is dead.
00:27:52.000TxDOT says, and the Department of Transportation federally say, and then three paragraphs down it said, actually we're doing the entire program of seizing the roads and putting toll roads on them.
00:28:01.000We're just not going to call it Trans-Texas Corridor anymore.
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00:30:19.000Go to RawOrganicVeganSuperfoods.com today and see the wide range of foods available that are designed to help your mind and body work the way they were intended to.
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00:31:21.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
00:31:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
00:33:48.000Here we come again, strafing the enemy, blowing the daylights out of their lives, waging war savagely, and airdropping red pills to wake people out of the Matrix every day.
00:34:02.000And I'm just getting wound up right now to take on the New World Order for another round.
00:34:59.000I want to get his take on a lot of things, including Senator Dodd admits adding bonus provision to stimulus package while he was the guy bad-mouthing it and blaming it on Republicans.
00:35:10.000The point is, they're all controlled by the same people.
00:35:12.000And then, meanwhile, Dodd is now blaming Obama administration for bonus amendment.
00:35:16.000Well, yeah, because the bonus amendment mirrors the executive order.
00:35:21.000So when you see Obama go, we're going to get these people, his administration is literally run by the people that engineered the current banking system.
00:35:29.000Bush has continued it, just as guilty, but he wasn't the author of it.
00:35:34.000It's just so outrageous, the level of their lies, but it's being exposed, it's coming out.
00:35:39.000And by the way, this is what the Obama deception covers.
00:36:00.000I'm seeing liberty, the awakening to tyranny exploding.
00:36:05.000Well, this Missouri fiasco, I think, is illustrative of what we're dealing with here.
00:36:10.000Whenever you can categorize people who vote for myself, or Ron Paul, or even Bob Barr as potential domestic terrorists and make that part of an official state police agency report, we are in deep doo-doo.
00:37:17.000He sure did a great service to his country by alerting the public as to what is going on behind the scenes in the police department there in the state of Missouri.
00:37:28.000I mean, to categorize voters of Ron Paul, supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, as potential domestic terrorists, not to mention the fact that if anyone opposes certain things, and I listed that in my column, That I put out earlier this week.
00:37:48.000If someone opposes, for example, the New World Order, if they oppose the United Nations, gun control, the violation of Posse Comitatus... RFID!
00:37:59.000If they're part of In the Fed, or the Liberty Committee, or the Constitution Party, and they say, oh, these groups are bad, too.
00:38:06.000They have soup kitchens and try to work with the local police, talking about your group and others.
00:38:11.000And they say, but secretly, they've got cell groups and they're really terrorists, too.
00:38:16.000Yeah, anybody that opposes any of the above, abortion on demand, illegal immigration, etc., is a potential domestic terrorist, a potential threat to the police forces there in the state of Missouri.
00:38:27.000Can you imagine what the firestorm would be if, instead of Bob Barr, Rod Paul, and myself, Had, let's say, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton been named, with the insinuation that people who support these individuals may be considered domestic terrorists.
00:38:43.000Can you imagine what the mainstream press would do with something like that?
00:38:47.000And yet, this is exactly what that report says there in the state of Missouri.
00:38:51.000We have sent, the three of us, Ron, myself, and Bob, have co-signed a letter to the governor and to the respective parties in Missouri.
00:39:01.000Demanding that they repudiate this report and apologize to the supporters of those who voted for us.
00:39:42.000And as to what Limbaugh said, I really don't know exactly what he said I didn't hear.
00:39:46.000I very seldom listen to Rush Limbaugh, but I've had several people call and tell me that he did bring it up on his programmers, or maybe a caller did, and they did talk about it for a few minutes.
00:39:55.000The point is that it's beginning to spread around the country.
00:40:55.000But here we are now in 2009 and they've actually named Chuck Ball and myself, Bob Barr, And Ron Paul.
00:41:01.000And saying the supporters of those of us who ran last year as an independent party ticket are somehow considered dangerous and a potential domestic terrorist.
00:41:12.000Yeah, well I need to get Ron Paul back on.
00:41:14.000I don't like to bug him because he's so busy, but last Wednesday when we broke this, Thursday I got calls from listeners saying, we called Ron Paul's office, of course it wasn't Ron Paul, he hadn't heard about it yet, and they're saying it can't be real, and so I had to explain to them, send them to the site, and I said, I'm not going to call Ron at home, I've got his home number, but I said, give this to him, We don't make stuff up.
00:41:45.000Because I got slapped around for three or four days, and folks are still saying I made this up, Chuck.
00:41:50.000It doesn't matter if the state police and state reps say they talked to the head of the state police.
00:41:54.000They're still, the establishment's still trying to deny this.
00:41:58.000Well, that's incredible, because all anyone has to do is call the toll-free number and talk to the state officials there in Missouri, and they won't deny it one bit.
00:42:09.000In fact, they will defend, they'll just say that it's been misconstrued and people are saying... Yeah, we've played recordings of them on air.
00:42:43.000I mean, that's the first thing you think about.
00:42:45.000But then whenever you start to look at it closely and you realize, hey, this, it's real.
00:42:49.000If it's not make-believe, then you can begin to do something about it.
00:42:52.000And of course, this letter that we have co-signed, Bob Barr, Ron Paul, and myself, and I'm sure by now is on the way to the governor's office there in Missouri, in which we give him three days to come out and repudiate this document.
00:43:09.000Do you have the letter in front of you?
00:43:30.000Dear Governor Nixon, the three of us write you as former presidential candidates, as concerned citizens, and in the case of Ron Paul, as a sitting member of the U.S.
00:43:38.000House of Representatives, and Bob Barr, as a former member, 1995 to 2003.
00:43:43.000We bring to your attention the most disturbing document being circulated by the Missouri Information and Analysis Center, MIAC, over the seal of your office and your name as governor.
00:43:52.000We respectfully demand that the following described document be immediately removed from any and all websites associated with or maintained by the State of Missouri or any agency thereof, including the MIAC.
00:44:03.000That the said document no longer be circulated by the State of Missouri or any agency thereof or associated therewith.
00:44:08.000That the State of Missouri repudiate its references to the three of us as contained therein.
00:44:12.000The document to which we refer is identified as follows, and a copy enclosed herewith.
00:44:17.000And of course, it's the MIC Strategic Report, dated 22009, and it's entitled, The Modern Militia Movement.
00:44:24.000Four names appear on the mask of this document.
00:44:26.000Jeremiah W. J. Nixon, Governor, John M. Britt, Director, DPS, James F. Kethy, Colonel, MSHP, and Van Godsey, Director, MIAC.
00:44:39.000The aforesaid report is imprinted at the bottom of each page thereof with the following designation, unclassified, law enforcement sensitive.
00:44:48.000It would be difficult, Governor, to recount in any letter of reasonable length the nonsense and inaccurate information contained in this so-called strategic report, which concerns purported analysis of the modern militia movement.
00:45:00.000The report draws links between white supremacists, anti-immigration persons, people opposed to gun control, those who do not favor the Federal Reserve Banks, and much more.
00:45:09.000With a report nothing more than a nonsensical diatribe penned by some uninformed person, we would certainly not take our time writing this letter.
00:45:15.000Although we might respectfully suggest you might want to question why such nonsense is of interest to, and being disseminated by, an agency connected to Save Missouri.
00:45:24.000Our concern, which we believe warrants your attention over, is found at the top of page four of this document, after the heading, Political Paraphernalia, as follows, quote, Militia members most commonly associated with third-party political groups.
00:45:35.000It is not uncommon for militia members to display constitutional, and that's a mis-spell, because it's constitution, not constitutional, party, campaign for liberty or libertarian material.
00:45:46.000These members are usually supporters of former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr, close quote.
00:45:54.000If it is the intent of the state of Missouri to link these three, excuse me, to link three legitimate former candidates for the office of the President of the United States, who also happen to be a sitting member of the U.S.
00:46:04.000House, and a Baptist minister, then this document clearly does so.
00:46:08.000And this is the basis for our demand that the document be removed, its distribution, and any actual implied adoption by the state of Missouri stop.
00:46:16.000If it is not the intent of the state of Missouri to make such a link or implication by and through the appearance and distribution of this document, Then we similarly demand the document be removed from any and all websites maintained by or associated with the state of Missouri or any agency connected therewith.
00:46:29.000That's a state issue and immediate and unequivocal repudiation of the document.
00:46:34.000In view of the fact that there are indeed real criminals present in Missouri, and many legitimate matters of public safety on which you're office, the Department of Public Safety, the Highway Patrol, and even the MIAC, should focus their attention on resources.
00:46:46.000Respectfully assert that spending any time, resources, or effort on the nonsense contained in or about this MIC Strategic Report constitutes an irresponsible and inappropriate use of official resources.
00:46:56.000We stand ready to discuss this matter with you at your convenience.
00:46:59.000However, the action respectfully demanded in this letter is requested within three days of your receipt of this letter.
00:47:04.000In the meantime, with common regards, we are virtually yours.
00:47:07.000Ron Paul, member of Congress, Republican candidate for president 2008.
00:47:10.000Bob Barr, member of Congress, 1995-2003, Libertarian Party nominee for president 2008.
00:47:15.000Chuck Baldwin, minister, Crossroad Baptist Church, Constitution Party nominee for president 2008.
00:47:22.000Okay, I would just add to that that they start out with a page listing cop killers. - Shh.
00:47:29.000And then they demonize the militia, connecting it to that.
00:47:32.000Then they connect violent militias, which basically don't exist and are constitutional, you know, the non-violent ones, to basically the majority of the American people.
00:47:42.000Pro-Second Amendment, pro-sovereignty, pro-border, just you name it.
00:47:49.000They basically say, people with these bumper stickers are dangerous, they may Put a hole in you.
00:47:56.000You know, that's the totality of it, and it's a guilt by association, broad-brush demonization, and it's slander and libel of the highest order, and that's why they kept it secret.
00:48:11.000If they do not repudiate this forthwith, I feel confident that there will be legal action in suit.
00:48:18.000And I can tell you this too, that the Constitution Party and hopefully the Libertarian Party in the state of Missouri are likewise sending off similar letters with just those exact implications in mind.
00:48:31.000In other words, the letter that we wrote was Tell us how this letter got written.
00:48:39.000You've got Bob Barr, Ron Paul and yourself on the phone.
00:48:42.000The Declaration of Independence was supposedly written by a bunch of people, but we know it was mainly written by Thomas Jefferson.
00:48:48.000Who was the Thomas Jefferson writing this letter?
00:49:22.000people over for ron paul bumper stickers in las vegas and places uh...
00:49:25.000so this is dangerous well absolutely i mean this is you know i talk about the essence of freedom this is the essence of freedom of whenever uh...
00:49:36.000state police agencies begin pulling people over for political opinions And that's exactly what this is.
00:49:42.000If you support Bob Barger, Baldwin, Ron Paul, that's a political opinion.
00:50:00.000Yeah, and so when we start profiling people because of political thought, political ideology, I mean, this is what they did in Nazi Germany, what they did in Stalin's Russia, Mao's China, the whole nine yards.
00:50:13.000You know, your identification with a particular thought or particular idea means that you are a threat to the state.
00:50:22.000That is the antithesis of everything that this country was founded upon.
00:50:28.000And if we don't stand up and resist this now, it's only going to grow.
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00:54:37.000Dr. Baldwin, I forgot to give you the email.
00:54:41.000It's robd, as in do, robd at Infowars.com.
00:54:47.000I would love for you to send us that email right when you get off the air in about 10-15 minutes and we'll do a story on it.
00:54:52.000Very, very exciting to see you guys standing up and fighting back.
00:54:55.000But I go back to the question we ran out of time.
00:54:57.000Talking to Ron Paul, talking to Bob Barr, are they saying that they may do legal action if this is not reversed and retracted?
00:55:05.000I think I could safely say that the sense of each of us is that this is serious enough that if the state of Missouri does not respond appropriately, that we should consider legal action.
00:55:19.000I think that is certainly a consideration right now.
00:55:24.000That is very important news right there.
00:55:27.000Good, because instead of putting up with the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL, who go after groups that are obviously bad and are constantly mixing good people in with it, I'm sick of this slander, and they've lost lawsuits before over this, and now the police are putting this out secretly.
00:55:46.000It is outrageous and it threatens the liberty of every American.
00:55:50.000I hope that your listeners understand that even though they may not have voted for myself or Bob or Ron Paul, or perhaps they don't live in Missouri, that they think that this doesn't affect them.
00:56:00.000But the fact of the matter is, this affects every single American citizen.
00:56:04.000When police agencies can begin to profile Americans on the basis of what they believe, We are in serious trouble.
00:56:13.000We don't have freedom if we don't have the freedom to think, the freedom to speak, the freedom to express our ideas and our convictions publicly.
00:56:23.000When we don't have that freedom, without being considered an enemy of the state or a domestic terrorist, however you want to say it, we don't have the most basic fundamental freedoms in this country.
00:56:35.000And that's what's at stake for every American.
00:56:40.000I mean, this is a Soviet Union, Nazi Germany.
00:56:42.000This is classical tyranny to have the police turning into secret police for these reports, demonizing the very people that are defending the Republic.
00:56:51.000Yeah, and think about it, you know, the people that they mentioned there, you know, Bob Barr, the Libertarians, Chuck Ball in the Constitution Party, Ron Paul, the, you know, if you want to say the constitutional wing of the Republican Party, you know, these are the people that, for the most part, are the most adamant defenders Of the Constitution, of freedom, of the very principles that the law enforcement personnel around the country are sworn to protect.
00:57:16.000Let's remember that every law enforcement officer in the country takes an oath to the Constitution, as does every military officer, of course, every public official.
00:57:25.000So, you know, and we are the ones who are promoting the law that each of these law enforcement personnel have sworn to protect.
00:57:34.000I mean, if there's any group of people that they should appreciate, it should be the people that are trying to support and defend the Constitution that the law enforcement personnel have sworn an oath to.
00:57:46.000Absolutely, and they might as well list Lou Dobbs in here, because the whole document looks like a Lou Dobbs CNN TV show.
00:57:52.000I mean, the North American Union, the SPP, RFID, tracker chips, the Second Amendment.
00:57:58.000I mean, they just demonize everything that this country stands for.
00:58:01.000Absolutely, yeah, that's a good point.
01:01:18.000He's got to Finish the interview first and send it We're going to get that up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, but I would just go ahead and have Paul Watson do a couple paragraph blurb about, you heard them say, that he talked to Ron Paul, they are considering litigation, and Bob Barr.
01:01:34.000Bob Barr, Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, considering litigation if this isn't retracted, and they've sent a letter, the letter has been sent.
01:01:42.000Go ahead and get that article up, and then we'll post the letter in it.
01:02:12.000We can get a reprieve like Nineveh with Jonah.
01:02:15.000You know, but the phony, bought-and-paid four churches under the faith-based initiative of tens of billions a year, under federal control, are telling people, stand down to corruption, stand down to tyranny.
01:02:26.000They told their people Bush was basically of the Lord.
01:02:29.000Well, we posted what they teach in the sermons, Protestant, Catholic, doesn't matter, all federally written.
01:02:34.000The clergy response teams, you know, now mandatory service, passing the House, going to the Senate.
01:02:40.000It's all happening, and the biggest threat we face is the pulpit prostitutes, as Pastor Butch Paul calls them, that are up there neutralizing the American people and the people of the world, telling them to stand down, that it's not your job to stand up to evil, that it's not your job to fight corruption, that it's not your job to be involved.
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01:08:49.000CNN and others reported that they were saying that they wanted to basically make the troops have their own insurance and pay for their own medical care instead of going to the VA.
01:08:58.000So joining us is Commander David K. Rabin, head of the American Legion.
01:09:04.000I appreciate the opportunity this afternoon sir.
01:09:06.000sir thank you you bet give us some background you're meeting with the president and now that looks like they're backing off well this issue really came to light about three weeks ago and while some testimony was being given in front of the house veterans affairs committee we didn't expect that
01:09:21.000it was that serious an issue at that point but we did think it was serious enough that a dozen veteran service organizations got together and jointly wrote a letter to the president opposing opposing this idea thinking that maybe it wouldn't go very much farther But then we were all invited to a meeting at the White House last Monday afternoon.
01:09:43.000And that's when we discovered that this truly was a serious proposal.
01:09:47.000The administration, and at that meeting was the President himself, his Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, VA Secretary Eric Shinseki, and a representative from the Office of Management and Budget.
01:10:01.000At that meeting they told us that they had identified 540 million dollars that they thought could be recouped back into the VA by billing private insurance carriers for treatment of service-connected disabilities.
01:10:17.000At that point, and I want everybody to understand that the President never threatened to cut off treatment.
01:10:27.000This was simply a method of how that treatment would be paid for, whether by the government or by private insurance.
01:10:33.000That would certainly start a big precedent towards that, though.
01:10:39.000It would start us down a road that we didn't want to go.
01:10:43.000The organizations all felt, every one of us, that the government has a fundamental responsibility, not just to provide that treatment, but there shouldn't be any financial burden borne by the veteran or by the veteran's family for that treatment.
01:11:01.000Oh yeah, they're going to raise insurance rates on them if the insurance companies learn that insuring a veteran separately, that they're going to have to pay.
01:11:12.000There are annual and lifetime caps, maximums on the benefits that are paid.
01:11:17.000One of the things we're really concerned about is once that maximum benefit cap is reached, then the entire family loses their health insurance coverage for the rest of the year.
01:11:28.000And with the state of the military right now, many of our military people are married, Many of them are parents.
01:11:36.000And the last thing we need to do is to have more young children out there uninsured.
01:11:42.000And then there's the added load of this on the entire insurance system, the type of catastrophic injuries associated with military service.
01:11:51.000As you just said, this would bankrupt the entire family's cap very quickly.
01:11:58.000When you start to talk about the state-of-the-art prosthesis, and we expect state-of-the-art prosthesis for those folks that have undergone amputations, loss of limbs, you know, those costs are very high.
01:12:10.000And then on top of those two, there's also the effect on the employability of the veteran himself and what the And the effect on the company if this disabled veteran is running his own small business.
01:12:23.000There's just way too many dangers here to take a chance on implementing this proposal.
01:12:35.000Businesses guaranteed, if they knew, I'm going to take a veteran on with a job who's going to have huge insurance costs on our whole plan, with small businesses especially, that would prejudice people against hiring veterans.
01:12:49.000We think that if a veteran walked into the business, even if he was the most qualified, that might be the deciding factor as to who gets the job.
01:12:58.000Just the potential effect on the employer's insurance costs.
01:13:42.000The thing that did surprise us and disappointed us, frustrated those of us from the veterans organizations, the president did not wish the discussion, and he stopped the discussion a couple of times, from addressing that fundamental responsibility of the government to take care of not only to provide the treatment but to pay for it.
01:14:02.000The discussion focused strictly on the money, on the financial aspects, And where the money was going to come from.
01:14:09.000So I'm getting from what you're saying, he didn't want to be on record, uh, seconding the fact that the military has always been promised continual health care.
01:14:18.000And when you were saying, you support that, don't you, Mr. President, he was noncommittal?
01:14:25.000A couple of the folks in the meeting tried to address that issue and that discussion came to a halt fairly quickly at the President's request.
01:14:34.000Strictly the focus on the money aspect.
01:14:57.000We did, there was There was the suggestion made that if the organizations, if the organizations did not agree with this, if we were strongly opposed, that if the organizations would make some other suggestions as to where this money could be, could be either saved or additional sources of income, that the administration was willing to listen to those.
01:15:21.000That left us a little uneasy, left me a little uneasy, because I don't see it as the responsibility of the veterans organizations to partner with the government in making those kinds of plans.
01:15:33.000You're lobbying an organization, a fraternal organization, guardians of the veterans, and what you're saying, I don't want to put words in your mouth, is that there was an attempted Co-opting going on here?
01:15:43.000A little bit of stroking to get you to, quote, help them?
01:15:47.000Uh, I mean, will Obama cut, you know, four or five smart bombs out of the budget?
01:15:53.000I think that's, I think, I think there's some, I think that's an accurate assessment of what was going on.
01:15:59.000Uh, the, what they were asking for was strictly ideas based on veterans health care and the VA.
01:16:04.000And there's a couple of them out there.
01:16:06.000Uh, the American Legion has advocated for a long time that, We don't see why a Medicare-eligible veteran that's going to the VA Medical Centers for non-service-connected treatment, why Medicare should not be able to be billed and to bring some money back into the VA that way.
01:16:23.000We think there'd be new money come into the VA that's currently being spent out on private doctors, if that possibility was allowed.
01:16:32.000Currently, the VA cannot bill Medicare.
01:16:59.000Any other key points that were going on in this meeting?
01:17:01.000And then we'll go into Chapter 2 here in the time we have left with the head of the VA who's nice enough to join us here.
01:17:07.000Anything else in the meeting that people should be made aware of?
01:17:09.000And was there anything good that you agreed with that the President or Chief of Staff said?
01:17:15.000Only that the President was very clear that there would be treatment for these people, that there was never any doubt.
01:17:22.000That treatment for service-connected disabilities would happen in the VA medical care system, and it would be very good treatment.
01:17:30.000The President, Vice President Biden, and Mrs. Obama have all been very clear about how much they care about the military and the military's families.
01:17:40.000So he wanted us to understand that there was never any question about whether or not treatment would happen in the VA.
01:17:56.000There was some discussion of a test program, a pilot program in maybe two states, to see what the effect would be on premiums and lifetime caps and employability.
01:18:08.000But frankly, those of us in the organization, myself as commander of the American Legion, I'm not willing to take that risk.
01:18:17.000Those veterans that have service-connected disabilities, They and their families have sacrificed enough.
01:18:24.000We don't need to run a test program and run the risk that they would be sacrificing even more to find out things that we're pretty sure would be going to happen.
01:18:34.000Well, we know that's a government trick all over the world to just say it's a test to kind of kill opposition, and then they roll it out saying, oh, our tests worked great, now we're going to do it.
01:19:05.000What was his I mean, how was he trying to co-opt or, you know, get you guys what it sounds like to sell out the veterans in a way to will help me cut their benefits somehow or help me save this money somehow?
01:19:16.000Yeah, that was I'm not good at reading body language.
01:19:20.000I don't dare give an interpretation there because there's a chance that I might be mistaken.
01:19:29.000But he was very clear this was about the money.
01:19:33.000And can you as organizations come up with ways to help supply this money?
01:19:39.000Alright sir, we've got a break for a quick break.
01:19:40.000Come back with five more minutes with you to talk about the good news from talking to the Congress and now with a new statement today by Gibbs.
01:19:51.000White House Press Secretary, they're claiming they're backing off of this for now, so we'll finish up with the head of the American Legion, Commander David Ketch.
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01:25:00.000The American Legion put out a very strong press release, and we'd been talking about it for the two days, expressing our opposition and involving the citizens and our membership around the country.
01:25:11.000At that meeting, which only lasted about 15 minutes, the Chief of Staff received the opinions of the veterans' organizations, the opposition, and made the promise that he would consult with the President and be back with an answer yet yesterday afternoon.
01:25:29.000When that answer came back to us, it was that the President was withdrawing that proposal.
01:25:34.000We also heard that coming from Speaker of the House Pelosi and House Appropriations Chairman Chet Edwards.
01:25:44.000They both made the statement that this proposal had been withdrawn and would not be involved in the budget for this coming fiscal year, which was very good news.
01:25:54.000But the issue is that they're proposing it.
01:26:23.000When you tell people that have worn the uniform in the United States about this idea, you get about two-thirds of the way through the description of what's being discussed here, and the head starts to shake, no, right, just that quickly.
01:26:37.000Because they understand this fundamental responsibility.
01:26:39.000They understand the reason that those folks were injured.
01:26:45.000Uh, why they're coming home with that disability and they understand that fundamental responsibility is not to be, not to be trifled with.
01:26:54.000Plus they were promised, they were promised, they signed contracts saying this.
01:27:05.000It hits very high on the radar screen when you start to talk about it with the members of our organization, with the veterans around the country, and frankly with a large percentage of the population around this country, even those that haven't been closely involved with the military.
01:27:21.000Does this put a chink, do you think, in the Obama administration's image with veterans who are already in a lot of areas not too pleased with him?
01:28:04.000That was one of the things that was said by one of the other representatives in that meeting to the president, that this was not really... This wasn't something he needed this early in his administration because, at this point, things were going reasonably well.
01:28:21.000All right, well, Commander David K. Rabin of the American Legion, probably the biggest veterans organization, not just in the U.S., but on the planet, and the website is Legion.org, Legion.org.
01:28:36.000And we appreciate you not being a lapdog.
01:28:39.000So many other groups that represent people have been kind of seduced in to all these hundreds of meetings they've been having, trying to co-opt everybody.
01:28:47.000And so we're really glad to hear that you and you're saying the other veterans groups that were with you, that none of them were rolling over to this first seduction, well, I would call it a corruption, into the White House machinery.
01:29:02.000So we commend you, Commander David K. Rabin, for that.
01:29:06.000Thank you very much, and it was very good to see so many of our colleagues in the organizations feeling the same way.
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01:33:25.000It's a group of police and military saying they're going to uphold their oath to defend and protect the Constitution from enemies, foreign and domestic.
01:33:32.000So much is going on during the break, so I forgot to ask my producer a question.
01:33:53.000It's a war room in here, as I was saying earlier.
01:33:56.000I'm going to go ahead here in just a few minutes and go live at PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:34:02.000And so I can play the video that has resurfaced.
01:34:07.000Again, I used to have about two people working for me at the time in 2001 and I would just do the live TV shows and then we've got warehouses, well not warehouses, three portable buildings filled with videotapes rotting of all these TV shows and all these reports I did locally.
01:34:34.000And this video went viral all over the internet.
01:34:37.000I put it up for free on my server, got a $4,000 bill for it, and had to pull it.
01:34:43.000It actually crashed our servers, then I got a $4,000 bill, and I learned that I couldn't put videos out for free.
01:35:48.000And because I've been unable to find this particular tape, he was able to find it in His store of TV programs I did.
01:35:55.000Payoff for anti-gun testimony caught on tape by Alex Jones is the headline up at Infowars.com.
01:36:04.000And the reason this story is important, we're going to play the video here, is that Jews of Preservation of Firearms Ownerships, local director, We were there testifying against shutting down the gun shows, ending private sales, shutting down 4-8 shooting clubs, YMCA shooting clubs for young people and children.
01:36:44.000Because the NRA was calling us extremists for not wanting to shut down the gun shows and things.
01:36:50.000This was in the Dallas Morning News, attacking me and others.
01:36:53.000And then when we caught the bribery, they said, get out of here.
01:36:55.000You know, they're, what looks like bribery, being paid off.
01:36:59.000And the House Ethics Committee said that he should have been a registered lobbyist, that it was improper.
01:37:03.000But then the investigation stopped there, and Ken Ahosa, the committee chairman, did get reprimanded.
01:37:08.000But they get up and they say, yeah, basically there's dangerous gang members everywhere, and We've, you know, you need to restrict guns, you need to restrict gun shows.
01:37:18.000And then they go outside in this gun control group, sits there and pays them off at least $300 a piece, the three guys that testified.
01:37:27.000And then the statesman called me the next day after we put the video out on local TV, I was live that night, and said, why don't you like black people?
01:37:35.000And I said, what are you talking about?
01:37:37.000Well, if those were white men being paid and testifying against the Second Amendment, would you have done your story?
01:37:42.000And I said, I wouldn't care if they were green.
01:43:17.000We'll buy guns from people who go to the gun shows and get guns at large quantities.
01:43:23.000You know, I mean, I know all these people.
01:43:26.000I live there, where all this is going on.
01:43:29.000And, I mean, you guys might think that there's already a, you already have a, that I have everything under control, but it's not.
01:43:36.000I mean, regardless of if we pass this law or not, um, I mean, things might change, but this, this right here, this bill, all three of these bills, this is just the beginning.
01:43:49.000Because there's bigger, there's bigger threats out there and there's bigger laws that we need to focus on that are being enforced in America.
01:43:56.000But these three, these three, these three House bills right here, this is just the beginning and I'm all for it.
01:44:06.000And like I said, you guys are looking, most of you guys are looking out from the outside.
01:44:54.000First question I'd like to ask is, do we have an epidemic of gun violence because the proponents of the legislation, the ladies, the very well-intentioned and sincere testimonies of the Marine Body March members and others, would lead to believe we have an epidemic of gun violence.
01:45:11.000Texas and the United States are safer than they have ever been.
01:45:14.000I won't go into detail, but if you look through the clipping file here that has information from the National Center for Health Statistics, the Center for Disease Control, U.S. gun deaths at the lowest since mid-60s will say that we do not have an epidemic of gun violence.
01:45:30.000And we may be in a situation where we're having solutions seeking a problem.
01:45:34.000Payments made to backers of gun bills.
01:45:38.000Questions arise over cash given to three witnesses who support gun show background checks.
01:45:44.000Proponents of gun owners' rights asked lawmakers Friday to investigate cash payments made to three Houston men who appeared before a House committee this week to support bills that would require instant background checks at gun shows.
01:45:56.000Dave Smith, president of Houston-based Texans for Gun Safety, A known front that is funded by Hangar Control Incorporated said he gave the three members of Young Texans Against Gun Violence, Nina Butz's group is Texans Against Gun Violence, about $300 each to cover their expenses and lost wages for the trip.
01:46:14.000All three men, however, said they are currently unemployed.
01:46:18.000So, they can't get their lives straight.
01:46:43.000The money that was given to us was not to change our testimony, said Bruce Brown, 18, who did not speak to the committee but submitted a witness form that showed he supported the bills.
01:46:52.000Smith, who gave the men the cash just outside the committee hearing room, said Young Texans Against Gun Violence is an arm of his group.
01:47:00.000The subsidiary group receives donations from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, And the Alliance for Justice.
01:47:07.000Those groups encourage young people to get experience in the political process, Smith said.
01:47:13.000Reimbursing witnesses for travel expenses is not unusual, said Susie Woodford of Common Cause Texas, a group that monitors government ethics.
01:47:20.000But she said other witnesses using cash and paying for witnesses, time raises ethical questions.
01:47:26.000It totally undermines the witnesses' credibility, Woodford said.
01:47:30.000I got here I said, how will this look?
01:47:35.000It says, complaints about the payments began circulating after Austin-based talk show host Alex Jones, who was at the House Criminal Jurisprudence Committee meeting Tuesday, aired videotaped interviews with Smith and the young men.
01:47:49.000They told Jones the money was reimbursement, stipends, and campaign contributions.
01:48:06.000Head of Gun Owners Alliance has asked his thousands of members to seek a house investigation of the payments and to have the hearing disregarded.
01:48:15.000Smith said complaints are being raised because the young men are minorities.
01:48:19.000Jones, a strong supporter of gun owners' rights, said Smith was trying to cover up his dirty activities by making accusations of racism.
01:48:25.000He's sitting here, caught on tape, throwing out different stories and giving out money, said Jones, who mentioned the payments during his testimony against the proposal to require background checks at gun shows.
01:48:35.000How dare he try to divert attention by saying, I'm a racist?
01:48:38.000Committee members Rick Green, R. Dripping Springs, and Juan Hena-Hozud, Maybe these kids were paid for their travel, but I don't see anything improper about it.
01:48:47.000Henehosa, the chairman of the committee, said that although he didn't know details about the payments, he is not concerned if the witnesses are compensated for testifying.
01:48:54.000Henehosa said lobbyists are compensated for their work to influence policy on behalf of other interests.
01:48:59.000Maybe these kids were paid for their travel, but I don't see anything improper about it, Henehosa said.
01:49:06.000State law requires people who are paid more than $1,000 in three months or who spend more than $500 a quarter trying to influence legislation or agency action to register as lobbyists.
01:49:17.000So you broke the state election laws, bud.
01:50:16.000Folks, it's so crazy in here setting up guests.
01:50:18.000I was just talking to Ron Paul's office and then after that I was talking to Chuck Baldwin's office just now and setting up the state police officer.
01:50:32.000What I'm going to do is I'm just going to come back from break.
01:50:34.000We're going to push Oath Keepers back to about 15 after next hour.
01:50:38.000So I have time to talk on air to the state police officer and restart what I was just covering here with the MIAC report because I got on air and realized I wanted the MIAC report and found it here in the disheveled stack.
01:50:49.000So we're going to talk to David, state police officer.
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01:54:58.000and have him tell the story of what it's like to have these in the department, other reports they've had, what other officers are saying, and what it's like to see this have blown up so big.
01:55:07.000We appreciate his courage because they do have retribution against officers, and they talk about that in here if it gets out.
01:55:13.000Sir, we appreciate you upholding your oath to protect and defend the Bill of Rights and Constitution that so many have fought and died for.
01:55:24.000Okay, tell us when you first got this and what it was like reading it and what other officers are saying.
01:55:29.000Well, they emailed it to all the area officers and officers and it's like a training thing, you know, and when I pulled it up on the screen, at first I was in disbelief after I read it and I had to read it a couple times to understand what are they saying.
01:55:53.000When I read it, when I ran it past a few other officers, you know, and they had the same twist that I had on it, that they were actually saying that some of us were militia members, that we belong to a militia group just because, as myself, I have a Ron Paul sticker on my car.
01:56:13.000Some other officers, they believe that gun control is not correct and that we shouldn't be marking up bullets.
01:56:20.000the ammunition act that they're trying to pass through.
01:56:23.000And they're saying, wait a minute, this is like a big net taking in everybody.
01:56:28.000You know, it just doesn't, it didn't appear right.
01:56:32.000And it seemed like this thing was just anti-American all the way.
01:57:04.000You know, and a few of them looked at the author of the article and they said, well, of course, that this is probably what comes out of this agency.
01:57:17.000Yeah, we decided to go with your cell phone because it doesn't have a good connection and kind of distorts your voice, but it's doing its job too well right now.
01:57:24.000So just, I guess maybe speak a little bit louder for us, officer.
01:57:29.000I don't want to give out any details about where you are or how senior you are, but we just appreciate, again, your courage coming on.
01:57:34.000How long ago did you first get emailed?
01:57:36.000This came out in the 20th of February.
01:57:46.000And it took me that long to digest what was actually on this document and really interpret what they were trying to tell us.
01:57:57.000Well, it's a guilt by association document.
01:57:59.000I mean, do you agree they mix white supremacist and cop killers in with basically every libertarian or conservative or anti-corruption group under the sun and three popular presidential candidates and a sitting congressman?
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02:00:12.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:24.000We're live now already into hour number three in about 15 minutes.
02:00:27.000We've got oath keepers, a group from police, military and others are saying we're going to uphold the Constitutional Bill of Rights.
02:00:33.000Very well written, very well done site because it's a constitutional lawyer that started it, but a lot of police and military have joined and pledged their oath to protect and defend the Constitutional Bill of Rights.
02:00:41.000We've got a gentleman on the line right now, a state police officer.
02:00:44.000We'll just call him David, that's not his name.
02:00:47.000His name has been changed to protect the innocent, those defending the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
02:00:52.000We're talking about the MIAC strategic report.
02:01:10.000We're not going to get into that, though, because that can get into where you're at.
02:01:16.000And, I mean, what is this meant to give patrol officers this?
02:01:19.000Because they talk about when they pull you over, you know, if you see these bumper stickers, if you see this, if you see that, they start the whole page out with cop killing, I guess to prejudice the police, but it doesn't look like it's working too well.
02:01:29.000So is this profiling and demonizing anybody that disagrees with the government?
02:01:45.000Officers in my agency can see through this ruse, and they understand that this document is meant to enslave the American people, and I don't think it's going to work.
02:02:00.000It's so obvious to lean one way to be a net that encompasses everybody.
02:02:06.000Like I said, even though I don't have that right-wing, left-wing, false paradigm, but even the right-wingers in my Well, they're certainly losing now.
02:02:44.000I think what they're trying to do, they're trying to train the young officers. - Absolutely.
02:02:50.000I mean, the really young, impressionable officers.
02:02:53.000But they don't understand, these young officers that are coming into these departments, a lot of them are really smart and sharp.
02:02:59.000They're coming in with four-year degrees.
02:03:02.000I know a couple of attorneys that have just started the department, and they can see through this, Alex.
02:03:09.000I think these people are running scared now.
02:03:11.000You and your office and people like you have done such a great job informing the American public that people are seeing through these people.
02:03:21.000The American citizens are seeing through these people.
02:03:24.000What type of things were the state police officers in your office saying when they read this?
02:04:16.000And you're saying if the statements are getting like... Sounds like you're saying bordering on, we're going to resist this.
02:04:25.000I would say 80 to 90% of the officers that I spoke to, and that's at like 80 officers, 90 officers, are saying, no, this is not going to work.
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02:06:23.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
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02:08:07.000Foreign offshore banks are engaged in a corporate takeover of the United States, just like they've done to hundreds of third world countries.
02:08:20.000They're announcing they've got Reuters, world taxes on everything you do to private banks.
02:08:25.000It's all over the news, there's a new world order.
02:08:27.000So what happens when the state police and police open up these federally written reports saying none of this exists, you're a violent cop killer if you talk about it.
02:08:37.000If people have these bumper stickers, look out, and we have out of Las Vegas the footage of them pulling somebody over.
02:08:42.000What's that Ron Paul sticker on your car?
02:08:44.000I guess that's the 10% the officer's talking about that I guess buy this.
02:08:48.000We've got Abby Newman being pulled over at a checkpoint, and she's got a pocket constitution, and they grab it and say, is this legal?
02:08:53.000And on the squad car video, they have a discussion about if she's allowed to have it, when all it is is what this country's founded on, what they swear an oath to.
02:09:01.000Officer, specifically, you know, the New World Order is becoming big news now.
02:09:06.000I would imagine the officers, you say, are getting upset.
02:09:09.000I mean, are they going, wait a minute, they're admitting there's a New World Order.
02:09:12.000Why are they then saying you're a cop killer, basically, if you talk about a New World Order?
02:09:30.000I watched it the other day, and I can't even make enough copies.
02:09:33.000I have officers coming up to me and saying, David, I understand that you have this film about Obama, you know, and I can't even keep copies.
02:09:45.000I gotta make copies constantly of the Obama deception.
02:09:49.000And by the way, I wish you guys sent out my DVD so I could make better copies.
02:09:55.000They're shipping right now, but imagine we had thousands of orders, we got four people back there, you know, since Monday, just packaging, packaging, so it's on the way.
02:10:01.000And another thing, Alex, You know, since I've been listening to you, I've been listening to you probably since the end of 2005, and luckily I have, because you have saved me in literally hundreds of thousands of dollars.
02:10:16.000You got me out of the stock market, posted your guests, I sold my own before the market crashed, and all of these things.
02:10:26.000The other officers realize, and I tell them, you know, Alex Jones has saved me money, and so that pushes them to you, and now the Obama deception, and now this, this, my document is further pushing people towards your show, towards your, your radio show, because they know that you're giving out the truth.
02:10:47.000Why do you think people were in denial, even state reps and people that know I tell the truth, when they first saw it they couldn't believe it and they called the state police and they said, yeah, that's our document, we're proud of it.
02:11:25.000Well, what happens with tipping points in history is they can tip into evil or tip into good.
02:11:30.000And because we've done the groundwork and warned people, and because we were right about what was going to happen and what was going to develop, and people have seen that in hindsight with my 22 films and the work we've done, but countless others out there fighting, that we have a fighting chance in this.
02:11:43.000But people need to know, the enemy will stage terror attacks.
02:12:12.000By the police that have been brainwashed and been militarized, and then I lash out instead of, historically, reach out to police and military, and they are waking up now.
02:12:28.000Look, Ron Paul got more contributions from the military than anybody else.
02:12:31.000And that's how we're going to defeat this.
02:12:34.000As Jack McClam says, we've got to have the police on our side.
02:12:38.000Because the truth is, we're all on the same side, even if we decide to fight with each other.
02:12:41.000When we fight with each other, the New World Order wins.
02:13:11.000I impressed upon at least the young officers, the old officers, they understand what's going on, where this country is going, and they understand they have to wake up and they have to be on the side of Americans.
02:13:23.000And we took an oath, and I remind these people that this oath is for our country.
02:13:34.000This is the best Constitution in the world, and we have to keep it in force.
02:13:40.000Yeah, basically this report takes the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, everything good and wholesome, and then just spray paints white supremacist cop killer all over it in an attempt to demonize the very heart of this country.
02:13:54.000It's asinine, it's a fraud, and I am just buoyed by the fact that so many police and military are waking up, not from my information, but from the over-the-top nature of the criminal fed government's propaganda.
02:14:10.000Right, and coupled with what Obama's doing right now, he's doing what you predicted he would do.
02:14:16.000I mean, with his gun control, he's doing exactly what you're saying.
02:14:21.000He's trying to stop us from having 2-2-3 rounds, from having 3-0-8 rounds, and this is nuts.
02:14:29.000Well, I mean, I'd like to brag and say I'm real smart, but I'm really not.
02:14:33.000I just go off what the white papers in government and corporations say they're going to do, versus what they publicly say on the news.
02:14:40.000I mean, my job's like reading a TV guide.
02:14:42.000I mean, the UN, on July 7th, 2001, at the UNITER meeting in New York with thousands in attendance, said, we're going to take every civilian-owned firearm, period.
02:15:26.000Portions of it, but they don't get it totally.
02:15:32.000That's a little bit of a difficult role to hold.
02:15:39.000But you're saying on the Second Amendment issue, and there's a document, cop killer, white supremacist, we've got to restrict guns, you know, they mix that in, they saw through that?
02:15:48.000Right, they've seen clearly through that because, like I said, a lot of them Almost majority of them.
02:16:09.000But they are trying to hire a bunch of social worker, mainline liberal types who are anti-gun-to-be police, but once they get into the culture, it is a pro-Second Amendment, pro-self-defense culture.
02:16:20.000I mean, the 10% that are brainwashed, what are they like?
02:16:25.000A few of them are Obama supporters, and a couple of them I know mainly because they're wives and they get harassed for it.
02:16:40.000It's kind of hard to have a cookie cutter for them.
02:17:15.000This one article, and actually, it sits right on my briefing table in the briefing room.
02:17:22.000And so, people view it every day and make fun of it.
02:17:26.000This was, I think, the coup de grace for the New World Order, at least in this little battle.
02:17:35.000This is waking a lot of people up as to what's really going on in this country.
02:17:42.000Well, I think the police I talk to are starting to realize, too, that it's not going to be a fun job trying to disarm the American people, because 10% of gun owners are a lot of them are veterans.
02:17:53.000They're not happy about life, the economy.
02:17:56.000If 10% of 140 million gun owners fight back, we're talking about 10 million, 14 million people.
02:18:02.000I mean, do the police ever talk about what it would be like to try to go out and confiscate guns?
02:18:15.000They don't think it's going to come to that.
02:18:17.000But I try to put that little thought in their head, so they at least think about it.
02:18:21.000So when that decision does arrive, at least they have thought about it.
02:18:28.000Well, they'll keep doing it incrementally, but I just hope that officers are supposed to judge the law as well as the facts, have wide discretion, because I've read over the law.
02:18:41.000I know most police are pro-Second Amendment because they understand guns are not stupid, but then you've got that other type where you can be in the countryside now in East Texas, walking across the road to your land to go bird hunt, a cop will pull up and say, what's that shotgun for?
02:18:53.000So there's certainly that percentage, that 10%.
02:18:56.000Well, I mean, I'm sure you've heard about Ron Paul supporters that have been harassed, and now we know why.
02:19:00.000Well, why do you have a Ron Paul sticker?
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02:21:23.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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02:25:07.000But masses of military and police have been saying they pledge to be oath keepers and not violate the Bill of Rights Constitution and to follow their oath.
02:25:16.000Uh, and it's, it's, when I read it, I said, this person has a deep knowledge of what's going on, because this is how I would have written it, probably better than I would have written it.
02:25:23.000So, uh, Stuart Rhodes, thanks for coming on, sir.
02:25:26.000Oh, you're welcome, and you're absolutely right.
02:25:32.000And that's exactly what we are here to do, is to bring more men like that out.
02:25:38.000And most of the members of our organization don't use their real names, or we don't even want to know who they are.
02:25:45.000Because just like that gentleman there just did, we want them to be able to continue in their job and continue doing the good work for the American people.
02:25:53.000But because the federal government is so out of control and criminal, I mean, that's a sad testament that these officers don't even really have their own First Amendment.
02:26:00.000To say they don't appreciate the country being destroyed.
02:26:03.000That's right, and standing up and saying you might actually obey the Constitution, because you can't.
02:26:08.000So that's the world we live in right now.
02:26:10.000But you've probably been to our site, you can see the Florida testimonials we have in from veterans.
02:26:15.000Most of the veterans are not afraid to put their name on it because they're no longer within reach of being punished for it.
02:26:22.000And they're standing up and saying, no, we're not going to do this.
02:26:25.000And the veterans are very important because the veterans are there to teach the young bucks how to behave, to show them what they're supposed to be doing.
02:26:33.000And so that's our mission, is to remind them of their oath, to teach them what it was they swore an oath to defend, and then to steal their resolve to do what's right.
02:26:45.000You've got to do it ahead of time, so that when you draw your own lines in the sand and prepare yourself mentally to do what's right, and then you'll do it.
02:26:54.000Just amazing testimonials on the sidewalk.
02:26:58.000What gave you the idea to create this and how many people have come on the site and pledged in just a few weeks it's been up that they're going to stand by the Constitution and Bill of Rights?
02:27:07.000Well, I was working for In Commerce Paul's campaign here in Nevada.
02:27:12.000office, but I was so focused on the campaign.
02:27:14.000But about a year and a half ago, I had the idea that, you know, what do we do next?
02:27:18.000And if this campaign is not successful, what's our next move?
02:27:22.000And my thought was, as well, let's have our focus of effort be on the men with the guns.
02:27:28.000If you're going to have an awakening of one million people, if you're going to have a chance to awaken one million people to be constitutionalists, would you want to focus on the military?
02:27:37.000And those are the men who are supposed to be our guardians.
02:27:44.000They're the guardians of the Republic.
02:28:05.000You go to the rear of the enemy, you go to the heart of their strength.
02:28:08.000It's kind of like in the Lord of the Rings, how the Ring of Power They think the ring of power is that these guys are going to do whatever they say.
02:28:15.000They think the oath is their ring of power.
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02:29:27.000I keep telling listeners, the phony churches on government payroll, I told you this a decade ago, now it's declassified, are telling you to stand down.
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02:33:57.000Without the Renegades, Lord knows where we'd be.
02:34:04.000When it comes to heroes, Renegades are mine.
02:34:09.000And going back to the Mordor analogy, you have the tower, the mountain of power, the all-seeing eye, with its armies moving across the world, but right here, in its command base, right here in Empire US, it is distracted, looking, looking everywhere for the ring.
02:34:26.000It's, that's what this MIAC report is, is they're counting On the police and military being Uruk-hai or orcs or black ships from the east.
02:34:36.000They're planning on them going along with this evil and being seduced by the dark side.
02:34:43.000By being played and manipulated and maneuvered into war with the American people as they destroy their own futures, as they burn their own beds, their own nest.
02:34:56.000You have to first believe that and know that and reach out to the police and military now so they understand and educate them.
02:35:03.000Waking up one police officer or one active-duty military person is like waking up a thousand regular Americans.
02:35:09.000Now we have to also understand that the key here is is there's people like Stuart Rhodes over there with Oath-keepers.blogspot.com.
02:35:19.000Oath-keepers.blogspot.com or just Google his name, Stuart Rhodes, Oath Keepers, and it'll come up for you.
02:35:25.000We've got it up on screen right now at PrisonPlanet.tv.
02:35:28.000The fact that there is Ron Paul and Alex Jones and Stuart Rhodes and Jesse Ventura and thousands of other prominent people fighting, not just millions waking up and fighting, they kill me and only makes my information grow that much faster.
02:35:41.000If I was the only guy doing this, though, I'd be dead.
02:35:43.000If Stuart was the only guy doing this, they'd go set him up or something.
02:36:40.000It's just that they're also trying to divide our movements, trying to demonize, trying to say, don't trust this leader, don't trust that leader.
02:37:07.000Now, go ahead and comment on those points, Stuart Rhodes, and let's get into the Oath Keepers.
02:37:12.000Well, you're absolutely right, and that's why Oath Keepers, we've always stressed that this was first contemplated and first planned before the election.
02:37:39.000In fact, I'll be speaking at, possibly speaking at a big event in June, a big pro-trups rally in June.
02:37:46.000I was invited by former Navy SEAL captain Larry Bailey of Gathering of Eagles in So a lot of the more hardcore conservative groups who might not have listened during Bush are starting to wake up and understand what the great danger is.
02:37:59.000And so we're seeing an awakening, like this officer said.
02:39:01.000And that's why they have to demonize people.
02:39:04.000That's why you saw HR 1955 with a bipartisan assault on the American people.
02:39:09.000First thing you do is you label someone the enemy, you make them the other, you dehumanize them, and then you turn the forces against them.
02:39:18.000And so, but we're fighting back, and I think your show is important in that.
02:39:23.000You know what I think woke the military and police up the biggest, and we've confirmed this with state police and military everywhere, and it's even been in the news, but we knew about it before it was, you know, I mean, the point is before it was in the news, they're telling them that, you know, mainline Americans are about to start bombing police stations.
02:39:45.000They're now seeing the whole apparatus that was supposedly to fight Al-Qaeda has now been swung around like a cannon and aimed at the American people, and the police and military are going, whoa!
02:39:57.000In fact, we just now put up on our site an article on how enemy combatant status was first proposed during the Clinton administration.
02:40:05.000Most folks don't realize that, but that idea of using tribunals for even American citizens was first proposed during the Clinton years to be used against McVeigh and the militias.
02:40:15.000And what Clinton didn't do, Bush, unfortunately, put into full effect, and now Obama's got it, and it's very likely he'll turn around and apply it domestically to average gun owners.
02:40:26.000That's what we think might be the next spark.
02:40:28.000You know, going back to the Mordor analogy, it's just too good.
02:40:31.000Remember when the Keeper of the Fortress goes insane and says, no, we're all dead, and starts pouring oil on himself, saying, we can't beat them, there's nothing we can do, and sets himself on fire?
02:42:30.000And then I realized they want to split us apart, which puts the police more in their gang mentality and the people more in their mentality.
02:42:36.000And that's why they're advertising it.
02:42:48.000We put the truth out, but we have to also add, understand, they're encouraging officers to act like this, and understand they're not all like this, and if we fall in to just hating them and being threatened by them, that's what they want.
02:43:19.000And I'm hearing that from Marines, too.
02:43:21.000I got a Marine sergeant the other day I talked to on the phone.
02:43:23.000He's like, I talk to my guys about this stuff all the time, and I make sure they know their oath.
02:43:27.000A lot of the young guys, when they first get to his unit, they think that their oath is to the President, and they have to set them straight.
02:43:33.000But now more and more we're talking about this stuff.
02:43:35.000And that was going on before we found out Oath Keepers.
02:43:44.000This officer says he's a Texas police officer, because after serving in the Navy from 90 to 93 on board the USS Blue Ridge, I became a police officer and I'm still on the force.
02:43:55.000Not only will I refuse any unlawful order that violates the Constitution, I will fight the tyrants that give the orders.
02:44:01.000Rest assured that me and my brothers in law enforcement talk about this subject on a regular basis.
02:44:22.000And he signed his name, Colin Connolly.
02:44:25.000Some people are willing to put their names on it, other folks understandably are not.
02:44:29.000But that's the sentiment we're getting.
02:44:31.000We're getting flooded emails like that.
02:44:33.000Saying, yeah, we're with you, you know?
02:44:38.000Well, I would add to this that, you know, getting into the spiritual angle of this, standing up for liberty and goodness, you know, as Martin Luther King said, the universe bends towards truth, towards justice, that it's providence.
02:44:52.000And if you don't understand that, folks, when you decide to fight evil and really get your head straight, and you really are fighting evil, not being manipulated into fighting some red herring the establishment gives you, they're very good at that, It's like an electrical connection.
02:45:21.000And the first thing you've got to do is you've got to not let fear control you.
02:45:23.000You've got to look at the big picture and realize that that's the value of the oath.
02:45:26.000There's always evil trying to take over.
02:45:28.000There's always evil trying to dominate.
02:45:30.000This is what life is all about, is defending liberty and freedom and building things and making life better. - That's right.
02:45:38.000And the first thing you gotta do is you gotta not let fear control you.
02:45:42.000You gotta look at the big picture and realize that...
02:45:44.000That's the value of the oath, is that everyone has taken that oath in the military.
02:45:51.000They did so understand that it could mean their life.
02:45:54.000And these men, they take it so seriously still.
02:45:57.000I've gotten letters, I can't even read them, I'll start bawling, but letters from Vietnam veterans and Korean War veterans, and they still take that O-serious to this day.
02:46:08.000And they understand that they have a line going all the way back.
02:46:13.000You know, the men of April 19, 1775, even before that, you know, they understand that the line of men who have fought and bled and died for freedom, and they understand that all those men gave them a sacred trust, and now it's their watch.
02:46:30.000That's why our motto is, it's not on our watch, because now it's our turn.
02:46:35.000To make sure that the White of Liberty does not go out.
02:46:39.000Because if America falls, the world will fall into an age of darkness.
02:49:47.000And so they have to make a decision for themselves where that line is.
02:49:50.000And so, as the author said a minute ago, you have to do it ahead of time.
02:49:53.000So that's our declaration of 10 orders.
02:49:55.000We carefully cracked these to tie into American history, because history is repeating itself.
02:50:01.000Much of the causes of the revolution are happening again, and also the history of the 20th century with the death camps and mass internment.
02:50:09.000And what we see happening today, it all flows together.
02:50:12.000So do you want to go down to the ten orders?
02:50:15.000Yeah, let's do that in the next segment, and if you can stay five minutes to the next hour that our next guest is coming on, I want to invite you back routinely.
02:50:21.000I know you're a busy guy, but you need to talk to Ted Anderson, maybe get a Genesis radio show or something.
02:50:25.000You're very, very eloquent, and when we come back, we'll go over the ten points, but what I like is that, you know, that huge Ron Paul revolution, at first people were like, oh, it went nowhere.
02:50:34.000And I said, no, it's a delayed explosion, like in Force 10 Navarone, when they bombed the dam and they're like, where is it?
02:50:39.000And he said, just sitting there smoking a pipe.
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02:55:10.000I'm sure you heard, sir, Stuart Rhodes with Oath Keepers, oath-keepers.blogspot.com, that the House has passed the forced conscription of the American people bill, and I happen to have the Army code that the Pentagon has issued saying it will be forced military service.
02:55:40.000We were going to do a regular site, but we saw that things were happening.
02:55:45.000In fact, I called Colonel Hapgood, also of the Iowa National Guard, and he lied to me like he lied to you.
02:55:52.000They have a dedicated mouth facility 80 miles north of that town they're going to do the exercise in, and he just flat-lied to us.
02:55:57.000And so that's one thing that got us hopping mad and decided to put it up on Blogspot first.
02:56:02.000One thing I do want to say, I want to let folks know that I write for Swat Magazine, and I want to make it clear that that's a magazine that's, you know, most people think it's just for law enforcement.
02:56:38.000She used to write the Enemy at the Gate column, and then she had to take it over when she got gunned and burned out.
02:56:43.000But their mission is to make sure that there's the separation between law enforcement Well, we knew this would come when the New World Order emerged and admitted everything we've been warning people about.
02:56:51.000the man that owns SWAT has stood up and dedicated that entire column every month to the mission of defending the Bill of Rights.
02:56:59.000Well, we knew this would come when the New World Order emerged and admitted everything we've been warning people about.
02:57:05.000That's why I said, even if we get laughed at, tell people the documents, tell them the truth, because when they finally emerge, when they make their big move, which is now happening, then people would have been warned, and then they would wake up.
02:57:15.000But also, as the police and military are being twisted in their mission now to carry out globalism, That would be the big wake up call there.
02:57:22.000I think the enemy trying to program them right now is waking police and military up faster than even the patriots.
02:57:30.000Absolutely, and of course Obama is acting like a complete fool with what he did with the veterans and forced them to pay for their own medical care.
02:57:57.000Well, the ten points are just what we think are the most likely hot points and tripwires, and what we think officers should be considering, and soldiers, as the lines in the sand they will not cross.
02:58:08.000Number one is, we will not obey any order to disarm the American people.
02:58:13.000You know, that was the cause of the first American Revolution, and that was the final spark.
02:58:19.000Lexington and Concord continue, number two.
02:58:21.000Number two, we will not obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.
02:58:24.000And there again, the risk of assistance.
02:58:26.000Warrantless searches were one of the causes of the American Revolution.
02:58:29.000And number three is we will not obey orders to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or to subject them to military tribunal.
02:58:36.000Stay there, we've got to come back in 70 seconds.
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03:00:36.000The other ones are, we will not obey orders to impose martial law on a state or state of emergency on a state.
03:00:44.000And five is we will not obey orders to invade, subjugate any state that asserts sovereignty.
03:00:49.000That's kind of a reflection on the initiatives that have come out recently where states are standing up and saying, we're going to interpose ourselves between the federal government and our own people.
03:00:58.000And that was an issue back in the 1770s because they would remove governors or legislatures and put in puppets.
03:01:06.000And number six is we will not obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
03:01:12.000And that was first done in Boston at the time of the American Revolution.
03:01:15.000As you just said, Boston was put under military dictatorship with General Gage, and then when the fighting started, the people of Boston were told, if you turn in your guns, we'll give you a safe passage out of the city.
03:01:27.000And they turned their guns in, and then they were told they could not leave.
03:01:30.000And they were kept there, and then it was turned into a concentration camp.
03:01:33.000Until the militia showed up and kicked the British out of Boston.
03:01:38.000So number seven is we will not obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
03:01:44.000And we fight the history, an unfortunate history, of the Japanese internment here at home and also the history around the world of oppressive governments.
03:01:51.000When they make war on their own people, they put them into camps, in part that's done to put women and children into camps so that the men who are fighting will turn themselves in on behalf of their children and women.
03:02:02.000And the schools, public schools, admit they've been drilling to grab kids without asking on FEMA buses and then tell parents to report.
03:02:08.000So tyranny does the same thing over and over again.
03:02:16.000soil against the American people to keep the peace or to maintain control.
03:02:20.000And as you know, we've been hearing rumors of this for decades, but we're now hearing the same rumors once again from very credible sources that the Obama administration is even considering bringing in foreign troops.
03:02:48.000No, no, it's just that, no, I mean, I've had Colonel Craig Roberts and others on who have had, like, their nephews at West Point, and, you know, they send in famous generals to tell them we're going to use foreign troops, but it's a good thing.
03:03:21.000We will not obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, peaceably assemble, and petition their government for re-disagreement.
03:03:42.000You know, we're hearing now that a lot of that was caused because those guard troops and those officers hadn't thought about it ahead of time.
03:03:49.000They're kind of like caught flat-footed when they were told to go do these things.
03:03:52.000And so we want them to think about it in advance.
03:03:55.000And we don't think it's going to go down the same way again.
03:04:09.000It's a good sign that within the military there's still people who understand the necessary wall of separation between civil and military power and take it serious.
03:06:23.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
03:06:26.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
03:08:56.000Intimidation of police and military that speak out.
03:08:58.000But as more and more speak out, it's kind of like in those famous, you know, historical things where we have a church full of people in the Revolutionary War, and they'll say, who stands with us?
03:09:06.000It takes about a minute, and then one guy steps forward, and then two step forward, and then everybody steps forward.
03:09:30.000We have to shatter That allusion that we're not the majority and we have to get past the mind game of fear.
03:09:38.000And so I think it's a great idea whether it's anonymous, you write letters and post things or other people should start other Oath Keeper sites, more groups, lots of people.
03:09:46.000But it's good, in my experience, just to go past the point of no return and to commit.
03:09:51.000We're only saying we'll follow our oath.
03:09:54.000I mean, that's how I got the city of Austin was saying they were going to vote against the Patriot Act.
03:10:14.000That all they were doing was reaffirming the Bill of Rights Constitution.
03:10:17.000All they were doing was saying they'd follow their oaths of office for the city council, the police, the firemen, the workers.
03:10:23.000And That they had to do it, and they did vote to overthrow it, and people that were saying they were going to vote against voted for.
03:10:29.000Because, I mean, I poured everything into literally trying to reach in and grab them.
03:10:33.000You know, grab, you know, just literally brush up against their souls.
03:10:36.000And I did, you know, literally bending my will with goodness towards them.
03:10:40.000And believe me, that's what humanity is all about, folks.
03:10:42.000You've got power you don't know you have.
03:10:44.000It's a survival mechanism with the truth to literally be able to reach out to people.
03:10:48.000When you're telling the truth, it's unstoppable.
03:10:50.000The Globalists are going to pull a lot of other tricks, but I wanted to, just in closing, Stewart Rhodes, get your take on that enemy attack angle, and has that already happened?
03:10:59.000Well, not yet, and here's what we're going to do.
03:11:00.000We're going to do the same thing that Congressman Paul did with his campaign.
03:11:04.000We're going to let the few, he's already got an officer in Houston who's volunteered to run our Facebook operation, and we encourage folks to start up meet-up groups.
03:11:12.000I mean, the website, we'd like people to send their testimonials to the website so everyone can go there and read the testimonials, and we don't screen anything.
03:11:19.000We post them, they send them, we post them.
03:11:25.000But by decentralizing with meetups, it turns the engine loose where no intelligence unit, no group in the government could track or trace or stop what we're doing or try dirty tricks on anybody because there's too many of us and agents that are assigned to try to infiltrate or cause problems will convert over to our side, I'd say 80% of the time.
03:11:45.000And here's the other thing, we do encourage active duty to stay anonymous, unless their short timers are going to be getting out soon, or a few people standing up and making a convicted statement is fine, but for the most part, we do think it's probably wise for most of them just to put an anonymous statement.
03:12:47.000Okay, let's go to our next guest, lecturer and college instructor Jeffrey Grubb.
03:12:52.000They wrote the book Corporatism the Secret Government of the New World Order and they do use a corporate model or finance oligarchs to control things.
03:13:27.000I just want to say I'm a big admirer, a big fan of yours.
03:13:29.000What you're doing just gives me a lot of inspiration.
03:13:32.000We live in a nation full of men, young men especially, who are confused being raised by these fake churches and TV and public schools and they get to be 23 years old, don't know what they're doing, don't know who they are.
03:13:44.000I think what you're doing is helping them learn how to be men by the entire nation, I would say.
03:13:50.000Yeah, we've never been given our true identity and people are unhappy until they find what the identity is.
03:14:02.000Okay, I think one of the reasons that you wanted me to come on was I just recently got fired from Purdue University for an incident that happened with a gun.
03:14:09.000It was actually my second incident with a gun at the university.
03:14:14.000Well, anyway, about me, my name is Jeffrey Grubb.
03:14:16.000I am the author of a book, Corporatism, which is published by Progressive Press.
03:14:22.000And, uh, I'm 38, been an instructor in philosophy at a number of schools in northern Indiana, and I was fired from two of them.
03:14:31.000Actually, the first time I was fired was from Indiana University for talking about vaccines and the New World Order and 9-11 and a bioethics class, and they sure didn't like that too much and got rid of me real quick.
03:14:40.000I've got a lot of publications and I look pretty good on paper to the university, so I got another job real quick in the Purdue University system, where I've been getting my PhD.
03:14:49.000It's a non-PhD teacher at a university.
03:14:56.000I was teaching at Purdue North Central up in northern Indiana, which is a branch campus of Purdue University.
03:15:03.000requested to teach in the prisons, because they have a little program where they teach inmates in the prisons.
03:15:09.000And I was on my way to, I've been doing it for the last 18 months or so, and I was on my way to work, I think it was February 24th.
03:15:14.000So rushing around like crazy, and I'm really busy writing books, taking care of my family, working two jobs, et cetera.
03:15:21.000I forgot that I had my full-rug. - No, you're just like Jimmy Johnson, who twice has tried to take his handgun, 'cause he gets death threats and stuff, why couldn't he, onto the airplane, And they open, you know, they scan the briefcase and there's the gun.
03:15:36.000Yeah, they got these anti, you know, the nation's full of these anti-Second Amendment zones.
03:15:39.000And, you know, I tell people, I mean, I forgot to take my gun out of my school supplies because I had it on me because I was running errands in the morning before, during the morning before I went up to teach at the prison.
03:15:48.000You know, of course, in the media, they won't report on, you know, depleted uranium and the burning of the rainforest and all this kind of stuff.
03:15:54.000What they want to do is report on me, a professor.
03:15:56.000Well, actually, I'm called a lecturer.
03:15:58.000I forgot to take my gun out of my school supplies.
03:16:00.000You know, it's in the Indianapolis Star and the Chicago Tribune.
03:16:18.000I think a lot of these universities are going to, you know, we're just beginning this economic crisis and it's, you know, a lot of universities when this economic crisis really gets going, you know, later this year and the next year, a lot of them are going to fail.
03:16:29.000And I think eventually with American Revolution II starting here, we're going to get new universities or the ones that exist are going to be heavily modified.
03:16:35.000And I think our information, our voice, I think is the future there.
03:16:39.000So, I mean, I don't, you know, that I got fired from my job.
03:16:42.000I've been teaching for eight years, you know, all summer, a lot of classes.
03:16:45.000I'm anxious to take some time off, and plus, I don't really know where I fit in these schools anymore.
03:16:49.000I mean, these universities, they're not teaching empirical information.
03:16:53.000I mean, it's hard for people to understand this if you're not really in the university system paying attention to what's going on.
03:16:57.000But you don't get in a class and sit there and tell your students, okay, I got this scientific article from this top journal and this scientific article from this top journal.
03:17:06.000We're going to just debate these and we're going to get to the bottom of things and we're going to be empirical researchers.
03:17:12.000No, they teach you the German 200-year-old model of not learning how to think and learning how magical the world is and how things connect.
03:17:19.000It's all just by rote regurgitating information.
03:17:24.000Well, they got these agendas, like when I was teaching bioethics at Indiana University Northwest, which I was fired from, I was teaching, they wanted me to teach this bioethics class, and I said, okay, that sounds great, I'd love to, but I didn't have a whole lot of background in it, but I said I'll do it because I could easily... And it was really a eugenics class they wanted to teach you.
03:17:40.000Yeah, yeah, they wanted me to teach eugenics, which, you know, it doesn't really... By the way, we've never talked before, I just knew that, because that's what they teach, but go ahead.
03:18:38.000Yeah, people don't pick up on this because they do it in a hidden way.
03:18:41.000Some classes won't talk about eugenics, so what they'll do is talk about global warming.
03:18:45.000It'll act like everybody's in agreement and you get the two students in the back who question it and then all the rest of the students gang up against them.
03:19:04.000It all comes out of Germany and England.
03:19:06.000And before education wasn't like this... I mean, everything you're saying is true, just because I've researched it myself.
03:19:11.000That's what's great about talking to somebody else who's researching this with your perspective, but... We're going to come back at more into your book, and I'm going to try to shut up and get into the corporatism, the secret government of the New World Order.
03:19:21.000It's published by Webster Tarpley's publisher.
03:19:23.000I thought I would add so give you an idea of the caliber of the material and progressive press so we really appreciate having you on the show with us we're gonna come right back to you after this break but Yeah, I mean, you pay after 12 years of your children being brainwashed at government schools to send them to another re-education camp.
03:19:41.000And folks, when I say re-education camp, they are re-education camps.
03:19:45.000I mean, re-education, Soviet Nazi system, that is what goes on at most universities.
03:19:50.000You got some good professors and teachers who aren't like that, but overall, it is a brainwashing mess.
03:19:57.000I mean, they tried to recruit my dad into eugenics when he went to UT in the 60s.
03:21:22.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
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03:24:44.000All right, let's go back to our guest, Jeffrey Grubb.
03:25:39.000I basically researched it, you know, a hundred hours a week or more it took to get that book to be completed.
03:25:45.000Of course, you're quoted in the book about 30 times, Alex.
03:25:47.000I've been listening to you ever since 2003.
03:25:49.000And, you know, I've been listening to... I mean, where else am I going to get this information?
03:25:54.000You know, I mean, you guys report all this stuff.
03:25:55.000I mean, nobody... it's really hard to find any really good information.
03:25:59.000Um, but the book is, uh, I think, there's only one problem, I think, with it, you know, like you said the other day about the Obama deception, you, you know, after you finish something, you find out things you wish you added later.
03:26:08.000There's a couple things I wish I added later, but the book basically, to sum it up, is about how the secret government works.
03:26:14.000The secret government is Basically invisible.
03:26:17.000I mean, people like Rockefeller and stuff are getting close to the core of it.
03:26:21.000But, you know, the people we see on TV, what I call the visible government, who are showing these people on TV, you know, Obama.
03:26:28.000You remember the election was happening and we were basically told who to vote for.
03:26:31.000The public didn't even know who Ron Paul was until late in the game.
03:26:34.000Yeah, they spent billions manufacturing this guy.
03:26:37.000That's prima facie evidence he's New World Order.
03:26:39.000Then all his advisors, now the policies, now the betrayals.
03:26:42.000I mean, you know, he comes out and says, I am against these bailouts and these bonuses.
03:27:02.000Yeah, Obama's specifically doing the neocon agenda where you say one thing and you purposely say exactly the opposite of what you're implementing.
03:27:11.000So he'll say, I'm against AIG and the banks, and go on the TV and scold them and stuff, but then he's showing the Obama deception.
03:27:18.000He's the guy behind the whole thing as far as the puppet government goes.
03:27:23.000But then behind the puppet government, the book discusses is there's the New World Order, which is basically corporate, and it's basically a satanic government.
03:27:31.000It's largely invisible and it's bent on setting up a world of concentration camps.
03:27:59.000Actually, Alex, I used to be an atheist.
03:28:00.000I even published an academic article in a top philosophy journal called Sophia on trying to prove that God didn't exist.
03:28:08.000Way back deep into the 90s, I was so angry with my upbringing and the horrible church that I was raised in, I just became this fiery, bitter atheist.
03:28:15.000But I read a book in the last few years called Beginning Sacred Design by Bonnie Gaunt.
03:28:20.000Pretty much, I can't believe that nobody's talking about this information in the churches or on TV.
03:28:25.000That's why a lot of top scientists who have been atheists, when they finally look at DNA under electron microscopes and the layers and how there's, you know, in there, they're like, my God, this is designed.
03:28:36.000I mean, this just didn't come out of a cabbage patch.
03:28:41.000When you look at the numbers of the solar system, the diameter of the sun, moon, earth, the ratios of all these diameters... Where we had to be in the galaxy, where we have to be... Yeah, go through that.
03:28:50.000Where we had to be in the galaxy, it's all perfect.
03:28:52.000Well, I mean, take Newgrange up in Ireland, that ancient temple, about 2000 B.C., it's estimated to have been created.
03:28:59.000The sun, I think it's the winter solstice, there's one beam of light that channels down the center, central column of the middle of the temple, because these people knew so much about the sun back then, so they designed it so that right at the winter solstice, the sun, you know, just at that one day, you'd have a beam of light that went down, because the temple was oriented to the sky.
03:29:19.000Now the thing that happens is at night, the full moon does the exact same thing.
03:29:23.000That tells you that the sun and the moon at those specifically, those very precise dates are traveling exactly the same trajectory through the sky without any deviation.
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03:31:24.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
03:31:26.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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03:33:55.000Corporatism, the secret government of the New World Order, but I want to, he'll be on hold a few minutes.
03:33:59.000I want to bring Ted Anderson up right now because every time gold goes down, and the graph goes like this, you know, it's the last five years going up, but every time it dips, Ted buys it when it's low, and then he doesn't raise the price to the current rate.
03:34:56.000I mean, here's London Telegraph, where they're talking about yesterday, issuing their own global super currency, and then another article said, oh, they're already doing it.
03:35:09.000Out of the gates, because we always run out of time, give folks the group of coins you're offering today at the insane price of Would you buy this when it was down by $70?
03:35:20.000Alex, right when the market dipped there, I took advantage of those low prices and now we have gold trading around $9.60, which is up again today.
03:35:28.000That news that the Fed's going in there and buying U.S.
03:35:31.000Treasuries is just driving gold up through the roof.
03:35:34.000That means the private bankers are selling themselves Treasuries taxpayer backed.
03:35:39.000The foreigners aren't buying enough of it to keep us afloat and they're moving away fast.
03:35:44.000If folks don't know what that means, why don't you tell them, Ted?
03:35:46.000Well, it just means that we're going to see inflation.
03:35:48.000I mean, you think you've had an assault on your stocks and bonds and your 401k plans and your IRAs now.
03:35:55.000Just wait until inflation starts coming.
03:35:57.000Everybody knows now that we're looking at some huge inflation in the future here.
03:36:02.000They just said yesterday, record inflation.
03:36:04.000Record inflation in the last 20 years just came in.
03:36:07.000Yeah, that's what everybody's pointing at right now, because when the Federal Reserve System buys U.S.
03:36:11.000government treasuries, it means they're printing money.
03:39:55.000The globalists can manipulate things, but they can't do it for long.
03:39:58.000And historically, there is not a better investment than gold and silver.
03:40:02.000You are insane if you don't convert a lot of your liquid cash or stocks and bonds into gold and silver.
03:40:08.000I can't say it better than that, Alex.
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03:40:18.000The only excuse is that you're out of paper currency, you don't have any more.
03:41:15.000I listen to that part of your show and I tell you what, it makes my blood pressure go up because I'm going to be down there in Missouri with Ron Paul uh... next friday and saturday and sunday and i and i gotta tell ya there isn't a better statesman out there i can't believe That anybody would stand and let something like this happen.
03:41:32.000Well, it's because they're getting desperate.
03:41:40.000Jeffrey, please continue with your research of how the real government, the shadow government, works in your book, Corporatism, the Secret Government of the New World Order, available from ProgressivePress.com.
03:42:06.000Okay, this is specifically in reference to, you know, Obama saying, you know, all these government people saying, you know, you can own a gun, but we just want to restrict it, blah, blah, blah.
03:42:17.000They want to take control over and certify.
03:42:20.000You know, when you have a certification over something, like organic food or whatever, the government can come in and control it, basically.
03:42:37.000Thirdly, to property, together with the right to support and defend them, if you were to defend them, in the best manner they can.
03:42:44.000The key to that quote is the best manner they can.
03:42:46.000Now, what that means is, if it's best for us to defend our property and pursuit of happiness with an AR-15, Which of course uses 223 most of the time and that's what we should, that's specifically what we should use according to this founding, this key founding father.
03:43:01.000So when somebody like Obama says that, oh no we want to restrict something like 223 ammo, they're breaking the law.
03:43:07.000The people should act accordingly to what they're doing and basically not cooperate.
03:43:12.000We should perform civil disobedience against this administration in every way.
03:43:17.000That, uh, which is what I think is the best way to, uh, eliminate these people.
03:43:22.000But that comes from, I'm reading out of a book called The Second Amendment by David Barton.
03:43:25.000That's page 24, and then he's got the site, the reference in there, exactly where it isn't.
03:44:01.000And, you know, these ethics classes in college, you know, it's just a lot of fluff.
03:44:04.000You can get the concepts over pretty easily.
03:44:06.000You've got to fill it in with interesting concepts in the meantime.
03:44:08.000So, of course, I'm bringing up the Second Amendment all the time.
03:44:10.000But a couple days into the class, we were talking about evolution before that.
03:44:13.000And I was talking about how it's just a theory and, you know, really, a lot of the research they say out there that it proves evolution is just a joke.
03:44:21.000You know, these four million year old bones, how do we know those are connected to our lineage?
03:44:25.000And you know, they say that there's all this evidence in the junk DNA of the retroviruses to show that we've got the exact same pattern.
03:44:35.000The way the phony churches have made the debate, I think is unscientific too and not in the Bible.
03:44:41.000You know, claiming things are however many years old.
03:44:44.000I mean, clearly, I believe we have an old earth.
03:44:46.000You know, the Bible talks about creations before that.
03:44:48.000Regardless of that, they try to set All religion or spirituality against science when the science is showing that there is a master builder, but go ahead.
03:45:00.000Yeah, we can go look at a fossil record.
03:45:02.000It seems like there's something, you know, step-by-step going on through the millions of years.
03:45:05.000The problem is, it's trying to say that we come from apes.
03:45:31.000This gradual evolution that Darwin put forth doesn't really exist in the fossil record.
03:45:34.000That's actually pretty mainstream among biologists and stuff these days.
03:45:38.000But anyways, I was discussing that with students, and I was trying to be empirical as I possibly could, bringing up both sides of the story and saying, you know, I don't really know, and just the evidence for us coming from chimps is not there.
03:45:48.000So I had a couple students just absolutely... I mean, I could just feel their anger.
03:45:53.000From the front of the room, they were just exclaiming.
03:45:55.000You were committing heresy against the eugenicist religion.
03:45:59.000I was basically making it look like humans were not stupid animals, but were actually powerful spiritual creatures by doing that, which goes against that whole eugenics program.
03:46:08.000So then the next class, you know, to fill in time, we brought up some controversial issues to illustrate the concepts and philosophical ethics.
03:46:15.000And those were the Second Amendment, of course.
03:46:17.000I'm always itching to bring up the Second Amendment.
03:46:32.000I had this incredible handout for the students.
03:46:34.000I've got it right in front of me here.
03:46:35.000It's called A Lesson in the Second Amendment.
03:46:36.000Just incredibly well documented, you know, about 100 footnotes on the thing and so forth.
03:46:41.000And we were just going through it, and all of a sudden, okay, that lasted about 40 minutes, and then we moved on to the next topic in the class, and then all of a sudden there's a bunch of police outside the classroom door, and I'm like, okay, that's strange, but I just kept teaching.
03:46:53.000And all of a sudden, a guy in plainclothes motions for me to come out of the room, and I get out there, and there's all these cops out in the hallway, and they said, Uh, we got a phone call that you're carrying a gun in your pocket, which of course I wasn't, because I've been too afraid to, of course, carry a gun.
03:47:07.000It's a felony if you, it's an anti-Second Amendment.
03:47:09.000So just talking about the Second Amendment, police came.
03:47:13.000Well, it turns out, it turns out I found out from other students that that student, Brad, one of the students that was so angry at me for just simply questioning and using empirical evidence to question the theory of monkeys turning into humans, Through Evolution, one of them called their mother, texted their mother and said I had a gun in my pocket.
03:47:33.000So it was basically a student did that because they were just so angry.
03:47:37.000Well, that's what these fake intellectuals do, is they try to shut down free speech by false reports, whatever they can, because it just... I mean, if your information is so powerful and so true, you should want to defend it.
03:47:50.000It's kind of like, you know, tens of thousands of people they've grabbed over the years and say they can't have court trials with the Enemy Combatants Act and the Military Commissions Act.
03:47:59.000If these are really terrorists and we've got proof, let's see it!
03:48:03.000They always want to do everything they do in secret.
03:48:05.000And they don't want to allow any debate.
03:48:07.000Well, the whole war on terror and Al-Qaeda and everything, if people look closely, there's no evidence for anything.
03:48:14.000I mean, if I see a videotape on TV or something like that, strictly speaking, in the scientific sense, not evidence.
03:48:20.000That's nothing, because I mean... Well, it's turned out those videos are old videos re-edited, that's been confirmed, and fake videos.
03:48:27.000I mean, they've put the classic Morph computer head up, you know, with the one with him in the room.
03:48:32.000I mean, they put out admitted fake videos.
03:48:35.000Yeah, I mean, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park sure did look real, I mean, but of course they're fake.
03:48:39.000Well, you saw Forrest Gump shake hands with Kennedy.
03:49:03.000Just go look for evidence that the real, if you really want to get real information about the world, that is not about the spiritual domain, but about the world, you need to use your senses.
03:49:57.000Mercury, melamine, lead, it's all good now.
03:49:59.000Yeah, but the denial is just so unbelievable, just like that police officer you had on last, uh, an hour or whatever ago.
03:50:05.000I've had the same thing happen to me when I started listening to you.
03:50:07.000I got out of stocks, I dumped my house, got into gold, did all the stuff you were saying, and I've even made members of my family tremendous amounts of money, but they'll still say, oh, you were just lucky, or it was just a coincidence, or blah, you know, it was like 20, I'm like, 20 coincidences, or just getting lucky.
03:50:21.000Well, that's what they say about all the predictions we make, or what.
03:50:25.000You know, the guest said about oil prices that for the next year at least they were going to drop down to below 50.
03:50:31.000Lindsey Williams, it just, oh, Alex, you guessed they were going to announce a new bank of the world where we'd pay our carbon taxes.
03:50:39.000Yeah, it's all over the news now, but you guessed that five years ago.
03:50:42.000Yeah, that's exactly what people are saying to me, too.
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03:52:23.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
03:52:25.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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03:54:32.000Nobody seemed to know where John called home.
03:54:35.000He just drifted into town and stayed all alone.
03:54:38.000Didn't say much, kind of quiet and shy, but if he spoke at all, he just said hi to Big John.
03:54:44.000Alright, final five minutes we've got here with the author of Corporatism, The Secret Government of the New World Order, published by the great folks at ProgressivePress.com, put out Webster Tarpley's books that we carry at InfoWars.com.
03:54:56.000Don't forget, it's out on DVD, shipping out now, The Obama Deception.
03:55:10.000By the way, in the retransmission starting in about four minutes, Dr. Chuck Baldwin came on about the MIAC report and big breaking news concerning Ron Paul and Bob Barr considering litigation against the state police for this and those that wrote it.
03:55:21.000That'll be the ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center.
03:55:25.000Commander David K. Rabin, the head of the American Legion, about Obama wanting to basically cut health care, make troops pay for their own health care.
03:55:33.000Stuart Rhodes of Oath Keepers, amazing interview, and of course, Jeff Grubb.
03:55:37.000Full circle now here, ladies and gentlemen.
03:55:39.000Retransmission starts in a few minutes at InfoWars.com.
03:55:42.000Okay, we've got about three and a half, four minutes left, sir.
03:55:44.000You've got the final word on any other issues you'd like to cover.
03:55:48.000Okay, that's great, because I got something big I want to say.
03:55:50.000I've been wanting to call into your show for a couple months to say this.
03:55:54.000I think you're on to this, Alex, and probably a lot of listeners are too, but I just want to say that I think that it's beyond a shadow of a doubt to me that the New World Order is now using our movement to carry out their agenda.
03:56:04.000I heard Chuck Baldwin in Hour One talking about Rush Limbaugh.
03:56:08.000He's talking about the Missouri issues and stuff.
03:56:11.000And also Glenn Beck is our friend and having Ron Paul all the time.
03:56:14.000These people have been the most unwavering traitors, all acting in unison for, what, decades?
03:56:21.000And now all of a sudden they're disclosing all this information.
03:57:02.000I mean, they're going to put in their own guys for this revolution.
03:57:06.000And they're going to have their other guys waiting on the other side after they destroy the old world to set up their new world that they want.
03:57:22.000They're driving people into revolution.
03:57:24.000I mean, they're stepping it up unbelievably.
03:57:26.000It just has to be the case that they're trying to make everybody go crazy.
03:57:30.000And if they're doing that, then that's part of their agenda.
03:57:33.000But the ring, as our earlier guest said that they're after, is they want to cause the rebellion, have it be violent, have the military and police against the people.
03:57:42.000That's going to backfire and they are not invincible and can be defeated.
03:57:45.000But I agree, they're positioning themselves in case they lose to pose as the patriots to then take it over.
03:57:52.000But we will expose that and we are exposing that.
03:57:55.000Yeah, it should be easy to figure those people out.
03:57:57.000You know, because like you say, judge people by their fruit.
03:58:01.000But that's what I think is really going on.
03:58:03.000I just don't buy it that all of a sudden Glenn Beck just doesn't about it.
03:58:05.000He was calling us terrorists a year ago, and now all of a sudden he's having Ron Paul on his show.