On today's show Alex Jones is joined by Roger and Matt, Mark, Matt, and Mark to discuss the situation with the VFW and how they are being used as slaves by the Obama administration. Also, Ron Paul gets a chance to speak at the Veterans Administration.
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00:03:14.000Ron Paul is coming up in the next segment now.
00:03:16.000He's not going to be able to get on the floor, so stay with us for that.
00:03:20.000And I'm going to continue with Roger and Matt and Mark and everybody else who's holding.
00:03:26.000Roger, I wasn't jumping on you when you called in to correct me.
00:03:28.000The reason I jumped on you is I know I predicted last hour how this is going to go.
00:03:33.000And it's going to be, well you guys, hold on just a second.
00:03:35.000You guys signed all the documents, so now you're basically our slaves.
00:03:39.000But the point is, they're lying about all this previous stuff, and I've got to get the actual year, but I talked to a VFW head who won't come on air, and he said, yeah, they started having to sign forms the last 15, 20 years.
00:03:51.000But the issue, and then I'm going to let you talk, and I appreciate you calling, is that they, out of the gates, are threatening the veterans who had this stuff pushed on them and given to them to go out and do services for our dead veterans.
00:04:03.000and you don't, it's bad enough to be registering them and making them, you know, getting ready to turn the stuff in.
00:04:08.000But what's even worse is the fact that out of the gates, they're bullying them and threatening them with the law when they do so many great services.
00:05:30.000And you get treated like a piece of filth and threatened by the BATF.
00:05:34.000Correct. And then I got ostracized from Marine Corps League and the BFW for speaking out three and four years ago about the same things that you talk about every day.
00:05:43.000But I bet they're not laughing at you now.
00:05:46.000And I'm getting ready to jump in big, and I'm going to get some things done.
00:05:51.000might not help but at least i'm more tried to get the fellow veterans the ones this place to be a family members wonder is their life Well, it's a shame that we would be suckered, the American people, into wars that were questionable, and then when tyranny is here, this is the time!
00:06:11.000I mean, if people ever wanted a chance to fight for America by speaking out, at least, this is it!
00:06:21.000this is happening my friend of a former marine friend of mine three years ago had come home from uh...
00:06:28.000vietnam never had a minute problem working one place all his life and he finally had a nervous breakdown up from ptsd after forty years and uh...
00:06:38.000he couldn't work anymore he got his uh...
00:06:43.000about two weeks after he got it the v_a_t_s pulled up from his house and took every gun he had And by the way...
00:06:53.000By the way, there's no law to do that.
00:06:55.000It's felonies under the 68 Gun Control Act.
00:06:58.000But they're now giving people a fake jurisdiction.
00:07:04.000They take your kids without a proper court order and they come and take vets' guns every day I see in the news when there's not a law for a psychological made-up issue.
00:07:18.000to turn all the young cops and military and the gang members and the illegal aliens they're hiring for the military loose against the veterans.
00:07:25.000And they plan to have both sides kill each other and then bring in the I-4 after everything breaks down.
00:07:32.000And I'm telling you, folks, they're planning reconstruction-style occupation in the United States.
00:07:38.000Yes they are, but what they don't understand is it's going to be really bloody and there might not be anything left if they do that.
00:08:11.000But they asked the SS officers what they were afraid of most in the United States military, and they said, a mad American.
00:08:18.000They said, if we had a big battle and we annihilated a unit, we didn't want to fight the next ones coming up because they was mad and they were ruthless.
00:08:46.000We're going to take them on, and a lot of us are going to have to give our lives in this fight, but in the end, we are going to kick their butt.
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00:12:32.000Government demands inventory of all VFW weapons.
00:12:34.000Threatens, that should be the headline, threatens veterans with arrest if they don't report 100-year-old plus cannons that were given to them by the government.
00:12:57.000Oh come to all these funerals, you know for dying vets do these ceremonies and Here, you know, we'll give you the m1s to shoot the blanks and we'll give you the uniforms and things now They're saying we're gonna send the BATF after you if you don't Keep a record all that and they've also announced Until Congress got upset.
00:13:16.000Obama said no more brass left over from the military for reloading to be sold to big companies.
00:13:22.000And they introduced all these bills to totally end the Second Amendment as we know it.
00:13:47.000And the question is, as a society, what are we going to do about this?
00:13:52.000We have private outside banks that are having their way with the people.
00:13:58.000And as soon as Ron Paul gets on with us, that's what we're going to discuss, is the bill that he's introduced that's now got over 200 sponsors.
00:14:07.000Bill to Audit Federal Reserve now has 207 co-sponsors.
00:14:13.000For Ron Paul and the American people, identifying the outside criminal organization, the private bankers that have engineered the collapse, that have taken over our society.
00:14:23.000We have their minutes, we have their documents, we have it all.
00:14:26.000We understand what they're doing, and what they're setting up, and what they are creating.
00:14:38.000Buildaudit Federal Reserve now has 207 co-sponsors.
00:14:41.000New names being added every day, momentum building for the American people.
00:14:45.000Thanks to Ron Paul and all of your phone calls to Congress, all the letters to Congress.
00:14:50.000At a time of writing, a bill that would see the Federal Reserve Bank audited for the first time in 59 years has 207 co-sponsors in the House and is gaining traction with every single day.
00:15:01.000Now we've seen numbers of 200 is what we confirm.
00:15:22.000209! So we have to almost check minute by minute, and they're coming in faster and easier now, and the percentage of the new people are Democrats, because a lot of the Republicans are already on.
00:15:51.000But they will respond when they hear from the people.
00:15:54.000Congressman, how long have you worked to get this many sponsors?
00:15:58.000I mean, you've been introducing this bill for a decade, haven't you?
00:16:01.000Yes, it's been probably ever since I've been in Congress.
00:16:04.000I don't know if I've ever skipped any, but there's never been any general support from the public, but because of the financial crisis and because of the presidential campaign and the interest in the Federal Reserve, all of a sudden it's come together.
00:16:17.000So this is by far the most interest that we've had, and quite frankly, I think it's the most interest anybody's ever had since the Federal Reserve has been established in 1913.
00:16:28.000But you know, even though the Fed contributed Significantly, if they didn't cause the whole depression of the thirties, nobody was calling for, you know, auditing the Fed and abolishing the Fed today.
00:16:39.000Those are routine chants that we hear, and therefore I think we're making great progress, only because they've created such a chaotic mess that we're dealing with.
00:16:49.000Well, we'll have to change the headline at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com to 209 from Congressman Ron Paul.
00:16:58.000I don't want listeners to blink or viewers to blink because they may miss history.
00:17:04.000I don't think even our own movement realizes the gravity of the fact that it looks like this bill has a good chance of passing if you get another ten or so.
00:17:14.000Sponsors, and the Federal Reserve has hired lobbyists to try to block this.
00:17:17.000Their arrogance, their veneer of invincibility, their cloak of invincibility is falling away.
00:17:24.000They see that they are not above the law.
00:17:27.000It's viral videos with the former Fed Chairman and current Fed Chairman saying they're above the law and no one can look into them and no agency of government of the three branches can.
00:17:36.000That is asinine on its face for even an uneducated, uninformed public on our system of government.
00:17:43.000And so I just want to get your take on what is it like for you to know you're the leader of something that is so amazingly historical, because even if they somehow beat this this time, then the question is, how were we not able to audit you?
00:17:58.000And so you can see that the momentum has changed and the pendulum is really shifting.
00:18:03.000I sense destiny of the level of 1776 here, sir.
00:18:41.000And, you know, in some ways, let's say we have all this attention in this bill and we get the majority in the Congress to endorse it and it never gets out and never goes anyway.
00:18:52.000It's proof positive that we really need to do it.
00:18:56.000That means the incentive will be that much greater to get a handle on all this.
00:19:01.000So I think we win either way because we've gotten the attention of such a large number of people.
00:19:08.000You're a very, very hardcore constitutionalist because the grassroots are talking to the very average Republican, the very average Democrat, the moderate, the liberal, the progressive, and they're all joining it.
00:19:19.000The issue really here is reigning in government and transparency.
00:19:24.000We should not be fooled into believing that they have a strong belief in the monetary policies that we might want.
00:19:32.000I mean, they're not old gold standard people or anything else which is driving this.
00:19:36.000Is that Congress has created a mess, the Federal Reserve has been doing a lot secretly, and the American people want to know what's happening because they've seen too many special interests bailed out, not only by Congress and the Treasury, but by the Federal Reserve as well, and they're demanding answers.
00:19:53.000Congressman, in the 12 minutes or so we have left with you, I've got so many important questions concerning this.
00:19:59.000Do we explain to some of the public out there that this is all a process of liberty?
00:20:05.000Tyranny wasn't born overnight in this country, and liberty isn't going to take back over overnight.
00:20:11.000It's a constant battle between those two title forces, as you know.
00:20:15.000But people said, oh, Ron Paul didn't win, so boo-hoo.
00:20:18.000I said, no, it built this giant movement.
00:20:21.000Now the biggest thing on campus isn't liberal or fake conservative, it's libertarian, it's freedom, it's constitutionalist.
00:20:28.000And now people are finally seeing that a year later, that it's building in strength, and that it's a process that even, as you just said, even if they defeat it this time, then people say, well, why can't we audit it?
00:20:43.000It's almost better if they do engage in chicanery and pull out the stops and beat it this time, because then everybody's going to want to know what they're hiding.
00:20:52.000Yep, that's exactly right, and that'll just energize our Our
00:21:26.000group Federal Reserve does not have the assets, all they have are credits, and obviously that's what we would expect, but that goes to prove why they can't be the salvation of this country.
00:21:39.000I mean, just counterfeiting money and doing mischief and serving the interests of their friends, that can't work.
00:21:46.000I think it's going to come to an end, whether we win this legislative victory or not, because their system is deeply flawed.
00:21:52.000Ultimately, I think the solution comes Uh, if we're well prepared to offer it up, uh, when the system totally collapses, the financial structure has come unglued.
00:22:05.000But the, uh, the dollar still, the dollar still works to a degree.
00:22:09.000You know, people still are buying dollars and they don't know what to do with them.
00:22:12.000But when they get discouraged, they don't hold dollars anymore.
00:22:14.000And then they start buying up hard assets.
00:22:16.000They're starting to buy oil now more than a month or so ago.
00:22:26.000But the end stages of a situation like this goes very, very rapidly once the sentiment changes.
00:22:32.000Just like when the financial system collapsed, everybody rushed to dollars and interest rates went down to 1%, along with what the Fed was doing.
00:22:40.000But when a currency crisis hit, people went, holy man, let's get out of the dollar.
00:23:01.000But the contest is between totalitarianism and liberty, and whoever wants the totalitarian approach has to have government-monopolized money.
00:23:14.000In your gut, and we all know what the gut is, it's thousands of pieces of data integrated in, and the mind comes up with a prime projection.
00:23:20.000In your gut, Congressman, Do you agree with me that in the last two months we were about to get the title shift or the flip to our side, but I can almost spiritually feel it at a DNA level that the shift has happened?
00:23:36.000Yes. Well, when I'm out of Washington, I have two perspectives.
00:23:40.000You know, when I go to a college campus and you represent and talk to people outside of Washington, and there should be reason why you're seeing signs of optimism.
00:23:52.000Right now we're dealing with the State Department authorization bill, and it's atrocious!
00:23:58.000You know, it's $18 billion and more mischief and more militarism, and the Republicans this time are going to oppose it, but it's just a partisan thing.
00:24:10.000So you're saying there's two different worlds, and more and more it's getting separated, and that gulf is widening.
00:24:16.000Right. Like this week, and I just got off the floor, I gave my all of two minutes, and I said, you know, our president has asked us to go with PAYGO.
00:24:38.000And if they paid for it by cutting it, and they want to spend all this money overseas, they'd have to cut a domestic program, which they're not going to do.
00:24:45.000So the president's outside on the TV, and people say, well, that does sound good.
00:24:51.000This president's not a radical spender.
00:24:53.000He wants to cut down, and he wants to rein this in, and he wants PAYGO.
00:24:58.000And two years from now, we're going to cut way back.
00:25:02.000We'll deal with the problems later on.
00:25:04.000And I think, though, our crowd is probably like young people around the world.
00:25:10.000Think of those young people in China when Geithner goes over there and says, oh, yeah, we're going to get things under control, and we're going to rein back our spending.
00:25:18.000And those students just laughed at them.
00:25:20.000Well, I imagine there's a lot of students around the country and a lot of other people now who just laugh at us up here in Washington.
00:25:29.000But the people here in Washington are still in charge, and we haven't converted them.
00:25:35.000And we're just seeing signs of it that it's possible when we can get 209 people to support an auditing bill.
00:25:46.000See if the calamity hits us before we can make some calm, deliberate decisions and make some changes.
00:25:54.000But my guess is that we'll have the crisis before we can do that.
00:25:58.000Absolutely. Things are certainly deepening.
00:26:00.000When do you see the next big plunge downward, deeper into this globally engineered depression?
00:26:07.000I think it's really going down now, but the government statistics sort of are, you know, I'm giving people a false sense of security, so I think we're still slipping.
00:26:17.000But there will be more announcements and more bankruptcies and probably more commercial property problems and more states going bankrupt and more unemployment.
00:26:27.000Then finally, the euphoria on Wall Street over the last four months will dissipate and that will feed into a lot of disappointments.
00:26:36.000But you know, even though Wall Street has done a little bit better by these prices going up a little bit, I don't think the average guy out there that's lost his job has started to feel any better yet.
00:26:47.000I was impressed the other day that some of the news media have reported that the real rate of unemployment isn't 9%, it's like 18%, you know, when you add up all the people who don't look for jobs anymore or who work a couple hours a week.
00:27:06.000Exactly. The mainstream media is now having to admit more and more that the government is lying and spinning because they want to keep some credibility.
00:27:13.000Sir, I want to specifically ask you, in the time we have left, how do we help you get this bill passed?
00:27:20.000How do we help you get H.R. 1207, that has 209 sponsors now, as of June 10, 2009, on this Wednesday edition, what can we do to get this passed?
00:27:32.000What can we do Because going back to you at McKinney-Ruff's when you gave a speech after I did, five years ago, it's in my film Matrix of Evil, you talked about how the key was when the global crisis came in, the establishment would try to use the crisis to bring in their bank of the world, their world currency.
00:27:53.000Because you were reading the same globalist documents I was.
00:27:55.000Yeah. And then now it's all over the news and they're posing as the saviors and the public is going, wait a minute, you're the guys that did this.
00:28:01.000So they are looking to you and others.
00:28:04.000So there's this vacuum that's about to happen.
00:28:07.000And I mean, just speaking to the fact that, as you always said, when this happened, we had to put in the maximum effort.
00:28:12.000So we want to put in the maximum effort.
00:28:17.000I think we just do more of what we're doing now and building our numbers.
00:28:21.000I mean, you have a large number of people that listen to you, and you continue to do the things that you're best at.
00:28:26.000Now, following up from our campaign, we started the Campaign for Liberty, and that website helps bring people together, and our numbers continue to grow.
00:28:34.000But right now, in a more specific way, they need to go to Campaign for Liberty, get the names of those who've signed on, and find out exactly the congressmen who have not.
00:29:21.000But they came to me not because they wanted to be on a Ron Paul bill, but because the grassroots were telling him to actually play Politically, I have to take a little credit.
00:29:31.000It is a little more popular being on a Ron Paul bill now than it used to be.
00:29:35.000Oh yeah, you're out there setting bushfires in the minds of men and women everywhere.
00:29:46.000And it's politics, I mean, especially marginal Democrats and marginal Republicans when they need this ten or fifteen percent of the vote.
00:29:55.000If there's a Democrat in a Republican seat, boy, they really want to pay attention to what's going on.
00:30:04.000Congressman, in closing, I want to ask you two quick questions.
00:30:09.000Number one, there's a domino effect, isn't there, from what you've been doing?
00:30:13.000Because as you move to audit the Fed, other agencies and groups and governments start thinking, here's AP today, Congress subpoenas the Fed about where all the billions of dollars to Bank of America went, because they won't tell Senator Sanders and Congressman Paul and others, yourself, So, again, here's this idea of holding these guys accountable.
00:31:01.000If they believe in transparency, then open debate.
00:31:04.000But I just strongly feel that if we get transparency of the Fed and the people know what they've done, I think their days are numbered.
00:31:12.000Well, it's been said that an audit of the Fed will abolish the Fed, because as soon as all the admitted criminality, we can see them doing openly.
00:31:20.000I mean, what do you expect to find if we do get the audit, or how will they fight that?
00:31:25.000I think there'll be some surprises, but I'd be most interested in what they've done with the international organization, which countries they've bailed out, and which central banks they helped, what they have done with gold, and whether or not they've loaned out and sold gold, and how they manipulate markets.
00:31:39.000I would imagine they even manipulate stock markets, for that matter.
00:31:44.000And how they do it would be the thing.
00:32:52.000We only skip network breaks occasionally when we have somebody like Charlie Sheen or Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul or somebody of that, Willie Nelson, on the show, and I've got limited time with them.
00:33:03.000So, there went Congressman Ron Paul, and I got that info out to him, just like I called their office, Well, we're going to join some stations now.
00:33:22.000Some stations still take breaks they're not supposed to.
00:33:26.000But regardless, we just had him on during that last little segment with us as well, talking about a host of issues.
00:33:34.000Very, very exciting interview with him.
00:33:37.000And when we broke the MIAC report, we broke the DHS report, listeners would call Ron Paul's office saying, hey, you've been listed as a terrorist.
00:33:47.000And Ron Paul didn't say this, but his office said that can't be true.
00:33:50.000And then later they said, oh, my God, it is.
00:33:52.000So I wanted to let Ron Paul know personally, I know he's going to hear about this from me, that it's from us and it's true.
00:33:59.000BFW is BATF is threatening to raid them and confiscate even World War One, Spanish-American War.
00:34:07.000And also they were given Civil War cannons.
00:34:10.000They're saying you have to register all those with us, or we're going to SWAT team you with the BATF.
00:34:15.000And that is a fact, and we have broken it, and I have confirmed it, and it is absolutely massive news.
00:34:21.000Okay, I have just done an interview with Ron Paul.
00:34:25.000I want to get back to your calls on this VFW situation, get into the economy, and a host of other issues, but I also want listeners to know that the money bomb is coming up tomorrow.
00:34:35.000And we're getting a huge response already.
00:34:45.000Think of everything we're going through.
00:34:46.000Think of everything we're trying to build here.
00:34:49.000And I make these high-quality, expensive films, and then I release them for free on Google and YouTube.
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00:35:05.000We need to raise more capital to hire a couple more video editors, another webmaster or two, some more personnel, some people to moderate the comments so the death threats aren't on there so the FBI doesn't come subpoena me, as Wired Magazine's reporting on yesterday, and AP as well.
00:35:23.000I mean, think, this is a little operation.
00:35:25.000There are about 14 people in this office, and the Watson brothers, and Kurt Nemo in New Mexico, and a few other people, a few contract IT guys.
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00:36:01.000You know, we've got on there the $20,000 have come in.
00:36:32.000We're actually kind of out on the edge of Austin.
00:36:35.000I'm proud of my crew and what they did, and the people that built this studio, everybody.
00:36:39.000So we found a place, moved into it, launched it, made the Obama deception in other films while we were doing it, on top of the radio show and everything.
00:36:46.000And it's so hard to go from 10 people in your office to a bigger office in 14 or 15, and then we want to go to the next level of 20, 25, 30 people.
00:36:55.000It gets easier once you have the foundation.
00:37:00.000We've built the rocket, it's loaded, it's fueled, it's got the gantry on it.
00:37:05.000As they say, you ain't seen nothing yet.
00:37:09.000And, you know, all the big interviews we have, all the activist groups we have on, all the legislation we battle that's bad, all the good legislation we push, this is really a fulcrum, or one of the main centers.
00:37:20.000I would say the anti-dual order movement is a bipolar or
00:39:23.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:39:27.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:39:34.000Okay, the last two hours I've had Ron Paul on, I've covered the VFWs.
00:39:40.000Being told, we're going to register your knives, your rifles, 150, 160-year-old cannons, That old tank out front that's welded to the ground.
00:39:52.000And the DHS lists the veterans as the number one terror group that Homeland Security set up for.
00:40:10.000We Are Change pops in for like 10 minutes.
00:40:13.000They did a great job confronting General Myers, who was over the 9-11 attacks in Norad.
00:40:19.000And I want to just have them pop in about that.
00:40:21.000And we're going to get a quick, at the end of the show, from a press conference that just started on the south side of the Capitol against this bill that openly ends the Fourth Amendment in Texas.
00:40:30.000The government can kidnap your children.
00:41:00.000I was until this year a proud veteran, but I'm quickly losing my pride with things that are going on.
00:41:06.000This Obama administration is tearing me up.
00:41:09.000When you look at the veterans'hospital and stuff and the way they've abandoned veterans, You know, I saw the article last night about the VFW, and it alarmed me because of what happened back in the 80s with the militia groups and banning any military training with militias.
00:41:30.000And it did alarm me, so I went to work this morning.
00:41:34.000And I got a hold of the Washington, D.C. headquarters of VFW, and I talked to this fellow who was very perturbed.
00:42:32.000If they told veterans groups to turn their firearms in and to throw their kids off cliffs, the leadership of the VFW and all these groups would say, Heil Hitler.
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00:47:50.000We all have to have Homeland Security run our lives.
00:47:53.000Now, going back to Mark in Maryland, he says he calls the VFW Head a Jerry Newberry in fact guys look his name up online right now because I want to call him myself I mean, I'm I believe you call her, but I want to check this out for myself obviously Talking about Dan West and you said what he said next concerning for those that just joined us the VFW being told by the feds and the BATF turn your guns in and we're gonna come SWAT team basically,
00:48:23.000you know register your guns and So we can take a full inventory of it I'll break down what happened next.
00:48:29.000Okay, what he said next I found alarming because it was so incriminating.
00:48:33.000And he said the whole thing boils down to, get this, they are trying to track down weapons that have been lost and turned up at gun shows.
00:48:44.000And that's their official story from Mr. Newberry at Public Relations VFW headquarters.
00:48:52.000And I'll tell you something, Alex, these crazy nuts calling veterans terrorists, they're about to draw back a stump.
00:49:00.000You don't think the vets will say, I guess I am Al-Qaeda.
00:49:06.000I guess I didn't know I hit us on 9-11.
00:49:09.000I guess the red, white, and blue is Al-Qaeda.
00:49:25.000Do the vets you talk to know that Homeland Security is listing them as the number one threat and training the police and paramilitary youth squads to take them on?
00:50:09.000Without the M1, there's no honor guard.
00:50:11.000Well, you can't have veterans with guns on TV.
00:50:17.000Have you seen all the news reports about where vets will try to carry their VFW rifles in the 4th of July parade and the cops hit them and hit them hard?
00:51:12.000Ten minutes into the errant mayhem in the town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people.
00:51:20.000One slumped at a desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.
00:51:25.000The responding officers, eight teenage boys and girls, the youngest 14, face tripwire, a thin cloud of poisonous gas and loud shouts.
00:51:42.000Now, again, they know Border Patrol's popular, so all these Homeland Security shows and all these shows brainwashing the kids, they call them Border Patrol, but then they practice taking on vets and confiscating guns.
00:51:52.000And this goes on all over the nation, not just with the Boy Scouts.
00:52:01.000And I don't think listeners understand, I'm not just saying that.
00:52:04.000People email me and say, oh, you're exaggerating.
00:52:06.000No, this, you know, you heard the retired cop call in from Missouri.
00:52:10.000He said, no, they've already tried to recruit us in the VFW and the Marine Corps Veterans Group to spy on neighbors in Tattle.
00:52:17.000I've covered and been sent by listeners the videos of the FBI in every town and city has these meetings where they say, we want your community to come volunteer to help look for terrorists.
00:52:30.000And then when you show up to it, they teach you, alright, we're fighting Al-Qaeda, and gun owners, and pot dealers, and we're going to spy on people abusing their kids.
00:52:41.000Did you see your neighbor over the fence spat their kid?
00:53:02.000Well, what it comes down to is they've turned the entire Patriot Act, something that was adopted, you know, to do a good thing, they've turned the entire thing around on the United States people.
00:53:12.000And it's a gun aimed at us, and we're about to get it.
00:53:44.000We're going to call those phone numbers.
00:53:47.000And folks, don't call too much until I've had a chance to call.
00:53:50.000It won't matter the media is going to get a hold of this and you'll see all these quotes in the news about we can't have veterans with guns and Yeah, these are BATF investigations I said first hour about this probably has to do with BATF at gun shows and this will be their excuse to intimidate the VFW and turn them all into stenches And that's now what he was basically saying Let's go to more callers.
00:54:12.000Let's talk to Rob in Texas and then James Bill John and others go ahead Rob Hey Alex, how you doing?
00:54:19.000Good. What do you think is going on here?
00:54:29.000I posted it on one of our forums back on April 22nd.
00:54:33.000And one of the things I'm kind of wondering about is there's a requirement for the VFWs to report all their ceremonial rifles every three years to TACOM.
00:54:45.000and what raises a question in my mind is why all of a sudden they need to inventory everything.
00:54:54.000Because all these cannons and artillery and everything that the VFW owns except for the ceremonial rifles are all de-milled.
00:55:06.000For those that don't know, when you drive in front of a VFW in a little town and you see an army tank and a helicopter, if it even has the Gatling gun on the Cobra, or if it even has The main gun, the howitzer on the tank, it's been filled.
00:55:25.000It's had hot metal poured down into it.
00:55:29.000But the issue is, again, you are the terrorist.
00:55:32.000This is a way to introduce you to the BATF, introduce you to secret police, where you're intimidated, and you're going to feel good when the BATF and FBI and Homeland Security Office says, oh, it's all right.
00:56:18.000I remember when the VFW came out on TV and said, I know it seems strange that the veterans are the number one threat, not even al-Qaeda, and gun owners are number two, and then al-Qaeda.
00:57:05.000The whole problem is, is the American public in general is in denial of what's going on.
00:57:10.000They think that, oh, everything's gonna be okay, we're gonna turn around and vote Republican, or do something to where our government isn't gonna walk all over us.
00:57:22.000When the Republicans are in power, the right foot steps forward.
00:57:26.000And when the Democrats are in power, the left foot steps forward.
00:57:28.000Can't we look below the leg, I mean, past the legs and the body in the New World Order?
00:57:33.000You've got these international bankers, or the body, argh, North Com's their arms, the IRS is their mouth to devour us, and they've just sprouted a new mouth that's the green taxes, the carbon tax, and sprouting a new mouth, the new oil tax, and it's just a bunch of mouths cramming us into it, and we debate the legs all day instead of the body and the arms and the head.
00:58:08.000Well, the whole thing, you know, is until this starts affecting the average everyday person, they're just not going to pay attention.
00:58:15.000No matter how many people are calling attention to this.
00:58:18.000As long as they do it incrementally, the cowards aren't going to wake up.
00:58:22.000Look, the cowards are saying Bilderberg doesn't exist, Global Bank doesn't exist, even when it's in hundreds of newspapers, because previously they were told it didn't exist.
00:58:31.000So they'll look at me and say, I don't care if the news says it's real.
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01:05:36.000Firstly, I'm going to have to apologize to you, because I didn't know you only wanted to talk about it today, so I can't listen to you live.
01:05:43.000First, I wanted to bring to your attention a big news article we've got here today on Sky News, and the headline is, London Police Accused of Water Torture, and I emphasize the word torture.
01:05:53.000Well, basically, six London police officers have been suspended for waterboarding four drug suspects.
01:06:16.000In fact, guys, YouTube Taser bracelets for air travel and then the company that did this homeland security is considering Making you wear and it's like it's freedom.
01:06:29.000Everybody gets a shock necklace in America.
01:06:47.000I'm not kidding about this They'd just shoot us in the head if they could Well that's next Will they do that in Fallujah if you don't have your ID in order?
01:06:56.000I have Tom Brokaw right before he retired saying they line the families up they don't have the cards, they're all shot God is my witness I have Tom Brokaw saying that I played it four or five years I'm sorry, I'm going to shut up You go ahead and make your point Uh, yeah, basically I just wanted to bring an article to everyone's attention.
01:07:14.000If they want to Google it, the headline is London Police Accused of Water Torture.
01:07:17.000And, uh, also I wanted to, uh, I know you've got quite a few UK listeners, and I wanted them to point them into the direction of a new website we've released for UK people, uh, against the New World Order, and the URL is www.freetourmindnow.tk.
01:07:35.000Great. Because, uh, basically we realized there wasn't any real sites Alright, well thank you so much.
01:08:21.000In any case, hey, Alex, I just wanted to point out a couple things to you here that you've said on a few other shows, and I can't believe it.
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01:12:11.000Okay, for about 10 minutes or so, I got We Are Change LA who are just kicking butt.
01:12:23.000They've confronted General Richard Myers, Vice President Joe Biden, ex-CFR President Lindsey Glebe.
01:12:31.000L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca, LAPD Chief Bratton three times, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, CIA Case Officer Robert Baer, General Wesley Cart, Summer Redstone, CIA Director Michael V. Hayden, what an effeminate demon, Philip Shinnen, Representative Grace Napolitano, L.A. City Council Scott McClellan, Mike Revell, Simon Wiesenthal Center, David Frum, Jane Harman, Mitt Romney.
01:12:59.000They get in front of the Simon Wiesenthal Center because they went before Congress and said, anybody who's a 9-11 truth is a Nazi Al-Qaeda.
01:13:45.000It's just, I go on national shows and they laugh at me and say, he believes there's big blimps, everybody knows they're flying saucers, and I go, no, it's a government, homeland security blimp, here's the government purchase order, and the media laughs, but go ahead.
01:13:59.000Yeah, well, no, I just, you know, I just found it amazing.
01:14:02.000I mean, I'm sitting there doing my laundry and I said, oh my God, that's the same thing that was on Alex Jones' show.
01:14:06.000I was going, you've got to be kidding.
01:14:08.000At any rate, there's one other thing I wanted to point out here today, on today's MSNBC.com, okay?
01:14:14.000The other story that you were talking about pertaining to the grandmother who was zapped by the cop.
01:15:20.000Right. Well, the other thing I wanted to just mention real quick, when I called you the other week when you had Jesse Ventura on, did I hear him correctly?
01:15:30.000I mean, was he like selling out, sitting there saying, give me the post in Cuba so I can go down there and drink rum and smoke cigars and I'll do whatever you say?
01:19:03.000You heard the caller earlier, I have no reason to doubt him, saying a month ago he posted on their forum the VFW order to register all their firearms and old equipment for basically for confiscation down the road by the BATF.
01:19:19.000The point is we got it, we put it out, now it's big.
01:19:22.000Whatever we put out ends up in the news, because we do the research, we have the documents, we make the phone calls, we put it out, it breaks.
01:19:29.000Do you know the value of being able to warn people about federal and state legislation that's bad?
01:19:36.000There were people for weeks fighting this bill that had passed the House, going to the Governor's desk, to be able to kidnap people's kids with no Fourth Amendment, with no judge, jury order, nothing.
01:19:51.000Snatch-and-grab like CIA and Abu Ghraib.
01:19:56.000Literal, you know, snatch-and-grab type ops.
01:19:59.000They grab your kid, they're in a van, gone.
01:20:03.000We put that up Friday, and then it was all over the news and everywhere this week.
01:20:07.000I mean, literally, the Wall Street Journal's doing a big cover story on me, Psychology Today has a bunch of other big papers, and of course there are going to be hit pieces, but I can't turn them down, because then, You know, they'll just be their side.
01:20:18.000None of what I have to say will be in there.
01:20:20.000And they'll say, Alex refused to be, you know, talked to for this.
01:20:23.000But they're saying, why are you so big?
01:20:35.000I can walk into the first restaurant I go into.
01:20:37.000I can walk out on the beach in South Texas and people walk up.
01:20:42.000My uncle was telling me in East Texas that And he doesn't go to the store, but maybe once a week.
01:20:47.000He's a farmer, and keeps the ranch up and things.
01:20:51.000And he said, just everywhere he went, because there's a station 50 miles out or something that goes into that area, East Texas, an affiliate, and he said, there's just buzz everywhere.
01:21:45.000And I'll take 100% of this money bomb, and depending on how much comes in, I'll hire a couple of video editors, a couple of webmasters, a moderator for the site, maybe more if we have some, or I might have to shut down the comments.
01:21:56.000It's getting really dangerous with the setups and things that are going on there.
01:22:00.000We're gonna maybe even get the space next to us, which is available.
01:22:03.000The economy's falling apart around here, so the warehouse space next to us that I couldn't afford a year ago, or when we signed the lease, or signed the lease about 10 months ago, it's now almost It's a little over a third, about 40% of the price it was a year ago.
01:22:18.000So I said, oh, I can't get more space, but now they haven't leased it and it's sitting there.
01:22:22.000I need that room to do the official TV studio.
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01:22:50.000And look, I've pledged my name, my blood, my sacred honor, everything on fighting the New World Order.
01:23:21.000This is, I am now, with the enemy, fully aware of who I am, concerned about me, and they will, they'll kill a million, three hundred thousand Iraqis and think nothing of it.
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01:25:43.000You believe 9-11's an inside job, government-sponsored terror, you want to defeat the New World Order, you can create your own We Are Change.
01:26:05.000I've got this video, we posted it days ago.
01:26:07.000I know it's at WeAreChange, LA, WAC, LA.org, but we're going to play some of it after the break, but in a nutshell, why was it so important?
01:26:18.000Whoever wants to speak up first, go ahead.
01:26:20.000Maybe Stuart wasn't there, but Bruno was, I know Jeremy was, but you guys have been at many other events as well confronting people.
01:26:34.000Thank you very much, Alex, for having us on, and I appreciate all the good work that you're doing.
01:26:38.000Richard Myers was the acting head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9-11 while the real head was out of town, like many other important people on that day.
01:26:49.000And since that day, he's changed his story numerous times about where he was when the building that he operates out of the Pentagon was hit.
01:27:00.000And Cheney has changed his story, too, repeatedly, but go ahead.
01:27:04.000And he doesn't appear to desire to really clear his whole role and all of this up.
01:27:11.000He doesn't want to come really clean about all of these memetic war games and terror drills that were occurring at the same time that the terror attacks actually were pulled off.
01:27:20.000So at this point, at the very least, he's considered a suspect in the 9-11 blackout.
01:29:09.000Yeah, it's sick, but we kind of knew that was going to happen when we went in, and it's just part of, you know, the intensity of the moment, it's so rewarding just to stand up and tell the truth.
01:29:22.000And I handed out Oathkeeper cards to Many people, veterans in the audience, before I stood up, if people aren't aware of what Oath Keepers are, they should look it up, because police officers and military are responding really positively to that.
01:29:50.000I want to come back to you and briefly get into what happened while you were there and tell folks to go to the website W-A-C-L-A dot O-R-G.
01:29:59.000My site's at PrisonPlanet.tv, InfoWars.com.
01:30:02.000I am Alex Jones, and I was there at the beginning of the 9-11 Truth Movement, and I pray to be there at the end when these criminals are brought to justice.
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01:33:42.000Then they hold you so they can get you for trespassing at a public event, or he actually bought a ticket for it, and then shoving him.
01:33:48.000Finishing up, Bruno and So, this is Jeremy, and so Bruno stood up and called out General Richard Myers and asked him how we could trust him when he's clearly contradicted his own stories around 9-11.
01:34:18.000And, uh, a man, uh, who, a private individual, uh, was the primary one to try to push him out as he tried to warn people about their freedoms being taken away.
01:34:28.000And then he was taken out, and then, uh, a few moments later, I couldn't handle it because they were, they were applauding and they were apologizing to the, uh, the alleged general, um, for him having to deal with this.
01:34:41.000And I, so I couldn't take it, so I stood up and I said, that man was, was telling the truth.
01:34:45.000He has changed his story, and at that point, the same private individual came over and dragged me out into the aisle and then gave me a chokehold and pulled me out while I asked him whether this was America and whether he was a patriot.
01:35:01.000And then when we finally got out, he said, he told me, there were children in there!
01:35:07.000Like, he was disturbed that I had made him do violence in front of the children.
01:35:11.000So it was a very interesting sort of form of life.
01:35:17.000What was great was that once we got outside, one lone proud citizen came out.
01:35:35.000And verify to the police that I had been choked and that many of the people in the audience had been clapping.
01:35:42.000And not that he agreed with my action, but he stood up for my right to take that action.
01:35:48.000So it's always the lone individual who stands up who becomes the bastion of freedom in the future.
01:35:55.000Yeah, or the cops were going to take you to jail for daring to buy a ticket and then go in and ask a question at an event, and you were going to go to jail for being choked.
01:36:04.000That's how the twisted justice works now in this country, but people are standing up and saying no.
01:36:10.000Right. And I, we realized later that I didn't, I failed to give the direct command to the police officers to go in and apprehend the man saying that I wanted to press charges.
01:36:22.000You've got to tell him, you must, you know, I'm filing a complaint, I've been assaulted.
01:36:26.000You've got to tell him to go after him.
01:36:28.000Real fast, anything from Stewart about what's happening?
01:36:33.000Yeah, you know, I was in the periphery on this one, but I'm just so proud of everybody and change.
01:36:39.000It's just we all have our opportunities to stand up when we can, how we can.
01:36:43.000The way you put it before we came on, I thought was great.
01:36:46.000You know, this is real and we're just, we're genuine people doing our best because of the weight and the gravity of the importance of what's going on.
01:36:54.000So, you know, I'm just like thrilled about What's going on, not only with us out here, but across the country.
01:37:01.000You know, at every opportunity, people are standing up and saying, the emperor wears no clothes, and we're just doing our best, man.
01:37:08.000And what it comes down to in the final equation is, you know you're good out there.
01:37:14.000You know, those of you listening, that you are a patriot.
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01:39:26.000You've heard him fill in for some of the biggest talk shows in the country, the biggest, Rush Limbaugh, and do his own show from time to time, WalterEWilliams.com.
01:39:35.000And I was telling him during the break when we first got him online that I like him a lot more than I like Rush Limbaugh, because I like the fact that he's a professor, that he covers economics, and that he really exposes, when I hear him on air, the hypocrisy of the Republican Party.
01:39:51.000Well, thank you, you it's great to have you here with us for those that may know who you are most probably dead tell us a little bit about yourself
01:40:22.000I've been teaching at George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia for going on 30 years.
01:40:29.000And my big job is trying to convince my fellow Americans on the moral superiority of individual liberty and its main ingredient, limited government.
01:40:47.000I think he's one of the few, and perhaps you can only name five, four or five congressmen, that if the founders were to come back, they would speak to.
01:40:56.000He's one of the few that they would have respect for.
01:40:59.000So you think he's founding Father Caliber, or they would just talk to him?
01:41:06.000That is, most congressmen, they have utter contempt for the Constitution of the United States and the moral principles that were the bedrock at our founding.
01:41:20.000And when I say that, I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if A lot of people say, well, what are you talking about?
01:41:24.000Well, if you read through the Constitution, the founders gave the government, the Congress, 21 things to do.
01:41:32.000And it's listed in Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution.
01:41:36.000And if it's not there, they can't do it.
01:41:38.000And to give you an idea how far we've strayed, James Madison, who's the acknowledged father of the Constitution, he said in 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 to help some French refugees, All these quotes are available on my website at waltywilliams.com.
01:41:57.000He says, I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article in the Constitution that allows Congress to take the money of their constituents for the purposes of benevolence.
01:42:10.000Now, if you look at the federal budget today, two-thirds or three-quarters of it is for the purpose of benevolence.
01:42:17.000That is, the major function of the United States Congress today is that of It's
01:43:24.000That is, what people talk about rule of law and equality for the law, it means that the same rules, the same laws that you and I must obey also apply to people in government.
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01:45:33.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:45:36.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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01:47:21.000Well, he is a professor of economics, best-selling author, nationally syndicated radio talk show host in his part-time, and a syndicated columnist.
01:47:32.000Walterewilliams.com, his latest column out today is Americans Love Government.
01:47:37.000But I was making the point during the break to him, isn't that because we've been domesticated, brought up in it, not knowing how good it is without this giant government, and people don't know that in every case in history, government grows till it destroys the society.
01:47:50.000Can you speak to that, sir, as you grow up?
01:47:52.000That is, if you look at the federal government now as a percentage of our GDP, the federal government spends something like 22% of our GDP, and state and local governments spend up to, I think the total amount goes to near 40% of the GDP is spent by government in our country.
01:48:11.000Now, from 1787, the inception of our nation, from 1787 until the 1920s, the federal government spent only 3% of the GDP, except during wartime, and the state and local governments spent around 9% of the GDP, and so making for a total of 12% of the GDP, as opposed to close to 40%, was being spent by government.
01:48:41.000And keep in mind that in 1787, we were a third world nation, and by 1920, we were the most powerful nation on the face of Earth, and we were rich.
01:48:53.000That is, we went through this whole interval without a big government.
01:48:57.000And it turns out something else that's significant that Americans just plain don't know is that the idea that New deal.
01:50:31.000Uh, back before the Federal Reserve, back before government got involved, back before private interest got involved with government, in this unholy alliance, and they promised we'll never have another run on the bank, we'll never have another recession or depression, and then 1913 to 1929, they then take that depression and just exacerbate it with all the price controls and the rest of it.
01:50:54.000And you're one of the rather, Martin, the current set of problems that we face now is A direct result of Congress, that is.
01:51:03.000I always suggest to people that the fundamentals of the American economy are, even now, still reasonably sound.
01:51:12.000We have this huge problem in the financial sector.
01:51:15.000The financial sector is a big problem, and it's affecting some other parts of the economy.
01:51:20.000But Congress is the cause of the problems in the financial sector, particularly those that stem from the subprime loans and the housing market.
01:51:31.000It's been enabling it and demanding it and prodding it all along, and then now is enabling it further, $14.8 trillion in seven months, Bloomberg reported.
01:51:43.000I mean, my God, that's more than the GDP in seven months.
01:51:47.000And the American people, I mean, I don't know what to say about my fellow Americans, but they're asking Congress to come and help us out, to change things.
01:51:59.000That is, to ask Congress to help us, that's very much like seeing a building on fire and you calling the arsons who set it on fire to help you put it out.
01:53:02.000And see, what Congress should do, what should happen is that people who got in over their heads in the housing market, they bought houses they cannot afford, they should just lose their house and they should be foreclosed on.
01:53:16.000That is, if you, you know, I think it was Herbert Spencer said, I believe it was him, it could have been somebody else, that if you protect people from the folly of their ways, you create a nation of fools.
01:54:37.000Look, if you doubt what I'm saying, what the American people want, let me ask you a question.
01:54:42.000Now, suppose I, Walter Williams, was running for the United States Senate from Texas, and I go back and forth across the state of Texas, telling my fellow Texans, "Look, I've read the United States Constitution.
01:54:57.000I know what Congress is authorized to do." No, because Maybe in Texas, but in other states, no, because they don't understand.
01:55:20.000The feds take a dollar of our money, send 30 cents back with strings attached.
01:55:25.000But you know, here's the problem, Alex, is that the people of Texas would be absolutely right not electing anybody who respects the United States Constitution to the United States Senate.
01:55:39.000The reason why is that, for example, if I am the senator and I don't bring back billions of dollars to Texans, that doesn't mean that Texas Exactly.
01:56:02.000They say he's a hypocrite because he votes against the bills, but then, the spending bills, but once the money comes in, he says, look, I'm going to earmark this because The money was spent.
01:56:13.000I mean, now you're paying these taxes.
01:56:15.000You don't want it to come back for the shrimp fisheries of the Gulf Coast?
01:56:49.000You've made a lot of predictions I've seen come true.
01:56:52.000What do you see happening with Obama with this false hope?
01:56:55.000He knows government health care ain't gonna work.
01:56:57.000He knows trillions spent is just gonna down the road make things even worse.
01:57:03.000I mean, I guess the special interests want all this money, and they're the ones that put him in office, but how do you see this ending with Barack Obama and all these people that followed him and believe he's really gonna give him a free house, give him a free car?
01:57:14.000You know, the people you see on TV saying, all my problems are solved because of Obama.
01:57:20.000You know, I don't know what to predict, but however, the current state of affairs is unsustainable.
01:57:30.000I mean, just one aspect, forget about the We're good to
01:58:01.000promises it's already made to people who are living today in terms of Medicare and Social Security, they would have to put trillions of dollars in the bank today, earning at least a 6% rate of interest in order to make good for it.
01:58:21.000And according to some estimates, such as the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas, Texas, they point out that by 2040, I believe something like You know, given the current state of affairs, if it continues the way it's going now, that 80% of the federal budget will be spent on Social Security and Medicare.
01:58:58.000Not only is there a bailout of GM, but there The bailout money under World Trade Organization rules, part of it has to go overseas, so we're paying to ship it to China and Brazil and Europe.
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02:01:31.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
02:01:33.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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02:03:42.000I think a lot of things that they're doing is unsustainable, but I think that the whole idea about Detroit and GM and other companies going bankrupt, I think that people don't quite understand what bankruptcy means.
02:03:56.000If they did, I don't think they would let government get away with what they're doing.
02:04:00.000That is, it's almost when you hear people talk, you know, when the airline goes bankrupt or if an auto company goes bankrupt, people think as, talk as if the company, the productive assets are going to go poof and disappear into thin air.
02:04:14.000Like if the airline went bankrupt, the airline is going to go poof and disappear into thin air, or the assembly line Detroit will go poof.
02:04:21.000No, what bankruptcy means is that there's a change in the title to those assets.
02:04:27.000Somebody else will own those assets if it ultimately goes bankrupt, but there's an intermediate step, they can go to Chapter 11 first.
02:04:36.000When government bails out companies, they're telling them, keep on doing what you're doing.
02:04:40.000See, the important thing about a market system is that failure, business failure, is just as critical to the operation of a market system as business success.
02:04:52.000That is, business success says you're doing the right thing, you're pleasing your customers, and you're doing it in a reasonable way.
02:05:19.000Americans won't buy your damn cars, so here's the money.
02:05:22.000We'll take the money from the Americans and give it to you.
02:05:26.000Well, Mr. Williams, expanding on that, the media keeps confusing this and saying capitalism failed, now we've got to have socialism with the cover of Newsweek.
02:05:48.000How do you boil that down and explain this as a bait-and-switch?
02:05:51.000People call it crony capitalism, and that is, you know, just to give you one example, We had this with the housing market, that we had this Community Reinvestment Act that intimidated banks into making loans that they otherwise would not have made.
02:06:07.000Now, banks would not lend people to buy a house, to buy a $200,000, $500,000 house with no money down.
02:06:14.000It required the government to intimidate banks to do that.
02:06:56.000Just educate the public that it's a fraud?
02:06:59.000Because there are all these corrupt corporate interests that are not free market, that are some of the biggest corporations in the world, and they've made an alliance with corrupt government, and then with the dumbed-down kind of howling mob, as John Adams would call it.
02:07:13.000i mean how do we deal with this i'm not sure i think that they we we need to with we can't deal with politicians there there there there are hopeless in terms of respect for the constitution We have to do, and I think that talk radio has been very, very important on a number of the blogs that have been burned.
02:07:31.000We have to somehow sell the American people on the moral superiority of individual liberty, which means limited government.
02:07:41.000We have to sell the American people on individual responsibility.
02:07:45.000We have to sell the American people that, you know, Americans are very generous, and we have to tell people that, look, Praiseworthy and laudable when you reach into your own pockets to help them out.
02:08:00.000When you reach into somebody else's pockets to help your fellow man in need, that is worthy of condemnation, and it's despicable.
02:08:09.000And for the Christians among us, we should recognize that when God gave Moses the commandment, Thou shalt not steal, he did not mean, Thou shalt not steal unless you got a majority vote in Congress.
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02:12:32.000Government demands inventory of all VFW weapons.
02:12:35.000Threatens. That should be the headline.
02:12:38.000Threatens veterans with arrest if they don't report hundred-year-old plus cannons that were given to them by the government.
02:12:48.000They're trying a lawyer trick now because the last 15-20 years they've been having them sign forms to get this stuff they give to them and push on them.
02:12:56.000You know, they ask the veterans, oh come to all these funerals, you know, for dying vets.
02:13:03.000And, uh, here, you know, we'll give you the M1s to shoot the blanks, and we'll give you the uniforms and things, and now they're saying, we're gonna send the BATF after you if you don't, uh, keep a record of all that.
02:13:13.000And they've also announced, until Congress got upset, Obama said, no more brass left over from the military for reloading to be sold to big companies.
02:13:22.000And they're, uh, introduced all these bills to totally end the Second Amendment as we know it.
02:14:43.000Momentum building for the American people.
02:14:45.000Thanks to Ron Paul and all of your phone calls to Congress, all the letters to Congress.
02:14:49.000At a time of writing, a bill that would see the Federal Reserve Bank audited for the first time in 59 years has 207 co-sponsors in the House and is gaining traction with every single day.
02:15:01.000Now, we've seen numbers of 200 is what we confirm.
02:15:51.000But they will respond when they hear from the people.
02:15:53.000Congressman, how long have you worked to get this many sponsors?
02:15:58.000I mean, you've been introducing this bill for a decade, haven't you?
02:16:02.000it's been probably ever since I've been in Congress.
02:16:04.000I don't know if I've ever skipped any, but there's never been any general support from the public, but because of the financial crisis and because of the presidential campaign and the interest in the Federal Reserve, all of a sudden it's come together.
02:16:28.000Even though the Fed contributed significantly, if they didn't cause the whole depression of the'30s, nobody was calling for auditing the Fed and abolishing the Fed.
02:16:38.000Today, those are routine chants that we hear.
02:16:42.000And therefore, I think we're making great progress only because they've created such a chaotic mess that we're Well, we'll have to change the headline at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com to 209 from Congressman Ron Paul.
02:16:58.000I don't want listeners to blink or viewers to blink because they may miss history.
02:17:04.000I don't think even our own movement realizes the gravity of the fact that it looks like this bill has a good chance of passing if we get another 10 or so.
02:17:14.000Sponsors, and the Federal Reserve has hired lobbyists to try to block this.
02:17:17.000Their arrogance, their veneer of invincibility, their cloak of invincibility is falling away.
02:17:24.000They see that they are not above the law.
02:17:27.000It's viral videos with the former Fed Chairman and current Fed Chairman saying they're above the law and no one can look into them and no agency of government of the three branches can.
02:17:36.000That is asinine on its face for even an uneducated, uninformed public on our system of government.
02:17:43.000And so I just want to get your take on what is it like for you to know you're the leader of something that is so amazingly historical, because even if they somehow beat this this time, then the question is, how were we not able to audit you?
02:17:58.000And so you can see that the momentum has changed and the pendulum is really shifting.
02:18:04.000I sense destiny of the level of 1776 here, sir.
02:19:09.000constitutionalist because the grassroots are talking to the very average Republican, the very average Democrat, the moderate, the liberal, the progressive, and they're all joining it.
02:19:19.000The issue really here is reigning in government and transparency.
02:19:23.000We should not be fooled into believing that they have a strong belief in the monetary policies that we might want.
02:19:32.000I mean, they're not all gold standard people or anything else.
02:19:34.000What's driving this is that Congress has created a mess.
02:19:38.000The Federal Reserve has been doing a lot secretly.
02:19:41.000Congressman, in the 12 minutes or so we have left with you, I've got so many important questions concerning this.
02:19:59.000How do we explain to some of the public out there that this is all a process of liberty?
02:20:05.000Tyranny wasn't born overnight in this country.
02:20:09.000And liberty isn't going to take back over overnight.
02:20:11.000It's a constant battle between those two title forces, as you know.
02:20:16.000But people said, oh, Ron Paul didn't win, so boo-hoo.
02:20:28.000And now people are finally seeing that a year later, that it's building in strength and that it's a process that even, as you just said, Even if they defeat it this time, then people say, well, why can't we audit it?
02:20:43.000It's almost better if they do engage in chicanery and pull out the stops and beat it this time, because then everybody's going to want to know what they're hiding.
02:20:53.000That's exactly right, and that'll just energize our group of young people especially, even more so.
02:21:00.000But I think it's an issue whose time has come, and it's not going to go away.
02:21:07.000I don't know if you saw Jim Grant's quote today on the business station, but he said that if we ever got that auditing bill passed, that it would be a declaration that the Federal Reserve is in a lot worse shape than any of the banks that went bankrupt.
02:21:23.000But technically, you know, in conventional terms, the Federal Reserve does not have the assets.
02:21:28.000All they have are credits, and obviously that's what we would expect, but that goes to prove They can't be the salvation of this country.
02:21:39.000I mean, just counterfeiting money and doing mischief and serving the interests of their friends, that can't work.
02:21:46.000I think it's going to come to an end, whether we win this legislative victory or not, because their system is deeply flawed.
02:21:52.000Ultimately, I think the solution comes if we're well prepared to offer it up when the system totally collapses.
02:22:01.000The financial structure The dollar still works to a degree.
02:22:09.000People still are buying dollars and they don't know what to do with them.
02:22:12.000But when they get discouraged, they don't hold dollars anymore and then they start buying up hard assets.
02:22:17.000They're starting to buy oil now more than they did a month or so ago.
02:22:26.000But the end stages of a situation like this goes very, very rapidly once the sentiment changes.
02:22:32.000Just like when the financial system collapsed, everybody rushed to dollars and interest rates went down to 1%, along with what the Fed was doing.
02:22:40.000Well, when a currency crisis hit, people went, holy man, let's get out of the dollar.
02:23:42.000to a college campus, and you represent, talk to people outside of Washington, and there should be reason why you're seeing signs of optimism.
02:24:10.000So you're saying there's two different worlds, and more and more it's getting separated and that gulf is widening.
02:24:16.000Right. And like this week, and I just got off the floor, I gave my all two minutes, and I said, you know, our president has asked us to go with PAYGO.
02:24:38.000And if they paid for it by cutting it and they want to spend all this money overseas, they'd have to cut a domestic program, which they're not going to do.
02:24:45.000So the president's outside on the TV, and people say, well, that does sound good.
02:24:51.000And this president's not a radical spender.
02:24:53.000He wants to cut down, and he wants to rein this in, and he wants PAYGO.
02:24:57.000And he says, in two years from now, we're going to cut way back.
02:25:02.000We'll deal with the problems later on.
02:25:04.000And, you know, I think, though our crowd is probably, like, young people around us.
02:25:19.000And those students just laughed at them.
02:25:21.000Well, I imagine there's a lot of students around the country and a lot of other people now who just laugh at us up here in Washington.
02:25:30.000But the people here in Washington are still in charge and we haven't converted them.
02:25:35.000And we're just seeing signs of it that it's possible when we can get 209 people to support an auditing bill.
02:25:42.000So we just have to do our best and see what happens, see if the calamity hits us before we can make some decisions.
02:25:51.000Absolutely. Things are certainly deepening.
02:26:00.000When do you see the next big plunge downward, deeper into this globally engineered depression?
02:26:09.000I think it's really going down now, but the government statistics sort of are giving people a false sense of security, so I think we're still slipping.
02:26:17.000But there will be more announcements and more bankruptcies and probably more commercial property problems and more states going bankrupt and more unemployment.
02:26:27.000Then finally, the euphoria on Wall Street over the last four months is dissipating, and that'll feed into a lot of disappointments.
02:26:37.000Even though Wall Street has done a little bit better by these prices going up a little bit, I don't think the average guy out there that's lost his job has started to feel any better yet.
02:26:47.000I was impressed the other day that some of the news media have reported that the real rate of unemployment isn't 9%.
02:26:56.000It's like 18%, you know, when you add up all the people who don't look for jobs anymore or who work a couple hours a week.
02:27:06.000Exactly. The mainstream media is now having to admit more and more that the government is lying and spinning because they want to keep some credibility.
02:27:13.000Sir, I want to specifically ask you, in the time we have left, how do we help you get this bill passed?
02:27:20.000How do we help you get HR 1207, that has 209 sponsors now, as of June 10, 2009, on this Wednesday edition, what can we do to get this passed?
02:27:32.000What can we do Because going back to you and McKinney-Ruffs when you gave a speech after I did, five years ago, it's in my film Matrix of Evil, you talked about how the key was when the global crisis came in, the establishment would try to use the crisis to bring in their bank of the world, their world currency, because you were reading the same global documents I was.
02:27:55.000And then now it's all over the news and they're posing as the saviors and the public is going, wait a minute, you're the guys that did this.
02:28:02.000So they are looking to you and others.
02:28:04.000So there's this vacuum that's about to happen.
02:28:07.000And I mean, just speaking to the fact that, as you always said, when this happened, we had to put in the maximum effort.
02:28:12.000So we want to put in the maximum effort.
02:28:14.000You're the general, you're the George Washington, sir.
02:28:19.000of what we're doing now and building our numbers.
02:28:21.000I mean, you have a large number of people that listen to you, and you continue to do the things that you're best at.
02:28:26.000Now, following up from our campaign, we started the Campaign for Liberty, and that website helps bring people together, and our numbers continue to grow.
02:28:34.000But right now, in a more specific way, they need to go to Campaign for Liberty, get the names of those who've signed on, and find out exactly the congressmen who have not, And then instead of, if your congressman has already signed on, go.
02:28:49.000Go to the neighboring congressman and organize and find out where the meet-up group is and list these people on the internet.
02:30:09.000Number one, there's a domino effect, isn't there, from what you've been doing?
02:30:13.000Because as you move to audit the Fed, other agencies and groups in government start thinking, here's AP today, Congress subpoenas the Fed about where all the billions of dollars to Bank of America went, because they won't tell Senator Sanders and Congressman Paul and others, you know, yourself.
02:30:29.000So again, here's this idea of holding these guys accountable.
02:32:09.000We had to go to retransmission, but it was hot, breaking Ron Paul information from today.
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02:32:20.000We're getting that restreaming for everybody that missed any of the first of the show.
02:32:24.000So people can tune in at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
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02:33:29.000It's a lot of other things So it was a good good live-action drill for us here today.
02:33:35.000I want to thank Oatman John's out of town right now my regular guy up in Minnesota But open has done a fabulous job under pressure with me griping at him during breaks with this going on and so has will and so has Matt and our other IT people here in Studio so I want to thank Thank them for that.
02:33:57.000As I said, if you missed any of the Ron Paul interview or all the other interviews we had today, that's coming up in retransmission.
02:34:05.000We were unable to have the live press conference from the South Steps of the Capitol, where the CPS is trying to get rid of the Fourth Amendment in the state of Texas and kidnap any children they want without warrants or court orders.
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