On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones is joined by journalist Wayne Madsen to discuss a story he broke about white supremacists and Nazis in the FBI and the Drug War, and how it ties into the Von Brun case.
00:00:22.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:26.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:34.000Alright ladies and gentlemen, we've just completed the first hour of the syndicated radio transmission.
00:00:42.000We are now simulcasting the final three hours on this June 29th, 2009 Monday edition at PrisonPlanet.tv.
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00:01:08.000Wayne Madsen on the manufactured swine flu hysteria now admitted that it is manufactured in a lab.
00:01:48.000I believed Wayne and believed the other reporter.
00:01:51.000But I just wasn't going to go with it yet, but I ended up on the National Press Club over the weekend on C-SPAN, and names quite a few high-level military people.
00:02:08.000I told you we were working on the Von Brun situation, him being handled out of the Pentagon.
00:02:13.000You're kind of a mentally ill patsy, but notice how that came right on time for the hate crime laws they have that openly ban free speech.
00:02:19.000And by the way, I got hit with a fast one.
00:02:21.000I kept saying, folks, why is everybody obsessed with the hate crimes law?
00:02:26.000Why is everybody so scared of the hate crimes law?
00:02:29.000That just says that if you attack somebody who has a certain gender or a certain sexual preference, you get basically more charges on you and are treated Differently.
00:02:39.000If you murder a black guy or a white guy, you should get the same thing.
00:02:41.000Or if you beat a gay guy or a straight guy, it should be the same thing.
00:02:44.000But that's a form of discrimination in saying some crimes are worse than others.
00:02:49.000But it's not still the big threat that the Cyber Bullying Act was.
00:02:52.000I'm going to read the subsections that say, if someone says you hurt their feelings, you're going to get a federal indictment, a federal felony, and go to prison.
00:03:01.000That wasn't in the original hate bill.
00:03:15.000You know, the left always talks about how they want free speech.
00:03:18.000The right, I guess, openly wants to get rid of it in many cases until a Democrat gets in.
00:03:22.000The point is, it isn't about left and right.
00:03:24.000It's about Both parties being controlled by offshore corporate interests, just like the Tories and Labor are controlled in England by the same interests.
00:03:31.000They fight with each other over power, but they're bought and paid for by the same interests, so that's coming up.
00:03:36.000We're about to go to break and come back with Emily Apple and Val Swain, really courageous ladies.
00:03:42.000I say courageous because I've done the same type of work for many years, so I guess you could say we're fellow travelers when it comes to that.
00:03:53.000Again, we're going to break in one minute and come back to them.
00:03:56.000We're going to show you some of this video.
00:03:59.000And they're a group that goes out to protest and shows the police videotaping the citizens and putting them in these terror databases.
00:04:05.000I've been in London and had the police come up and say, you can't videotape, you can't ask citizens questions, we're putting you in a terror database.
00:04:14.000And then I have two riders that live in Engle and they've been approached by police and they've been told you're not allowed to, you know, videotape in London.
00:04:20.000You're not allowed to... I mean, they're putting terror databases.
00:04:23.000This is happening to even mainstream reporters now.
00:04:25.000And they passed a law saying it's up to police discretion to say whether videotaping is an act of terror.
00:04:31.000So they want to put cameras on us, they want to surveil us, they want to control us, but then you don't videotape them.
00:04:36.000Well, there was a guy a few weeks ago caught On footage of the police beating a guy half to death, and they've gone and charged and arrested the guy that shot video of that.
00:04:45.000I guess soon, like the guy that, the cop that shoots the guy in the back at the DART facility in Oakland, I guess they're gonna go after the folks that shot video of that.
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00:05:00.000It's just amazing how they torture us with pain compliance, and it's a big deal that happens at Abu Ghraib, but not if it happens to citizens of the U.S.
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00:08:25.000Emily Apple, Val Swain, both join us from the United Kingdom.
00:08:30.000Emily Apple is a single mom from Cornwall down the coast there, arrested by police August 8, 2008, along with her photographer, Val Swain, mother of three, for asking police officers their badge numbers as they were up videotaping the citizens to put them in databases. for asking police officers their badge numbers as they were
00:08:49.000The reason we have this now is the Guardian has obtained the police footage of FitWatch members, Emily Apple and Val Swain, being arrested by surveillance officers from the Forward Intelligence Team, Fit, after asking for their badge numbers at the King's North Climate Camp last year.
00:09:05.000They're supposed to wear their badge numbers, just like we have laws here that say that.
00:09:08.000Because we don't have secret police in England and the United States, supposedly.
00:09:34.000In fact, I forgot to tell you guys, cue up to the extras from Martial Law where they're actually breaking the arms of protesters and choking them.
00:11:52.000I mean, we know that they take photographs, they film demonstrations, and we know that that That information ends up on police databases and databases that we've got no one has any access to and no one has any ability to check and nobody knows quite what is done with that data.
00:12:07.000This is like the Savak or the Gestapo or the NKVD.
00:12:14.000So we set up the Bitwatch a couple of years ago just to keep an eye on it and to do what we can to stop them doing what they're doing.
00:12:26.000I think also, one of the things that they do a lot of is very overt harassment and intimidation of anyone attending protests and certainly people they know attending protests.
00:12:40.000The way they take photography is very much in the face with big splashes.
00:12:46.000They're designed so that people know that they're there and they want people to be scared of them.
00:12:54.000If you're a known activist, you know, they follow people around.
00:12:56.000I've been followed home on various occasions and things like that.
00:13:03.000I mean, I want to get into your story, but later I want to talk about my experience of being 200 yards from Parliament in the public square and the police were already over there saying no protest allowed.
00:13:14.000This was three days before the law went into effect.
00:13:17.000uh... banning protests anywhere around uh... parliament and the police came over and said what's your name i'm putting you in a database and then i learned that i have two guys that work for me paul watson and steve watson that live in england That this happened to them, and basically everybody they know, that everybody's being trained, that if you're even walking your dog, they come over and question you, put you in a database, and if you question them, you get tortured like you're being tortured here on the video.
00:13:43.000I also noticed the Guardian got the police footage, but they show you the thought criminal, and by secret police, they don't show the supposed public officer's faces.
00:13:57.000They're very worried about the latest amendment to the Terrorism Act, which potentially makes it an offence to publish information about police officers.
00:14:08.000The Guardian has now buckled the once-free home of the Magna Carta.
00:14:27.000They would always falsely arrest you, and so now they passed a law, and go over that code for folks if you have it or we can pull it up, saying if you photograph police, we'll decide if it's terrorism.
00:14:39.000So now the Guardian, one of the biggest papers in the world, is scared to show the cops that tortured two housewives.
00:14:46.000Yeah, if you go to the Guardian, they did publish the story and they did a lot to get this information out.
00:15:09.000All their names and links to photographs of them are on our blog, so if people want to identify them and see them properly, then they're there for everyone to see.
00:15:20.000On the Guardian point, I raised this in a piece that I wrote about the Guardian being scared of the terrorism laws.
00:15:29.000And apparently, according to the Guardian, they're not, and there are other reasons why they wouldn't show the faces of the police officers on that video, but they refuse to say what they are, so if anyone's guessed whether they're telling the truth or not... But you're saying in your blog spot, you have them.
00:16:58.000Now I was looking at his hand, and I've seen this up close with other demonstrators, peaceful people.
00:17:03.000Looks like he's really working it, really squeezing on those arteries.
00:17:07.000Can you describe what that was like, and how did you control yourself?
00:17:09.000Because usually people buck against that, because the panic reflex comes in, and then they get to really slam your head in the ground, break some ribs, and really get the sadomastic pleasure they joined the force for.
00:17:24.000Um, well, it was very nasty, but I've experienced far worse than the police, so, um, in terms, it wasn't a shock to me at all that I was being treated like that.
00:17:36.000It looked like he was whispering, uh, you know, kind of like a Jeffrey Dahmer would whisper to his prey, you know, that he's saying something to you while he does it.
00:17:45.000Um, he was just telling me to walk or sit down or whatever he wanted me to do at the time.
00:17:57.000So have you fouled on him for assaulting you?
00:18:00.000Yeah, the complaints that we've made to the IPCC, the Independent Police Complaints, is to do with the assault and also to do with the imprisonment because we were refused bail and kept in prison for four days.
00:18:17.000Now, you weren't even resisting him, but he still did that to you, and then when they have you, you're on the ground, they're kind of slamming you and mistreating you.
00:19:06.000The last time I was arrested when they tried to take me to court, I was asking them to get me numbers from my phone in case I got sent to prison because I would have to fill out childcare.
00:19:17.000And because I wouldn't get into the prison van to go to court, I got repeatedly kicked and punched and then had my hands slammed in the door about four times.
00:19:36.000But I guess if it's two women from Britannia, then it's normal.
00:19:42.000Yeah, I'm not sure we get quite the bad treatment as they have in our food drive, but I mean, you're right, it's about pain compliance being used as not just a method of control, it's a way of causing a lot of pain.
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00:24:08.000I'm not going to say anything about it until it comes out in the newspaper, but one of the biggest newspapers in the country is here.
00:24:26.000And I was explaining to her that in England and now in the US, taking your shoes off at the airports is about an act of submission, an act of you're a criminal, you're bad.
00:24:34.000And how Paul Watson and Steve Watson get questioned by police when they go out to eat dinner.
00:25:00.000And this is about them bullying us and cowing us, and she goes, oh I know, I was in England last week, they came up and told me I couldn't take photos at public places because of a child molestation law.
00:25:11.000So you're a terrorist, you're a child molester, you know, we're all criminals basically now.
00:25:16.000This is about their good, their God, all the billboards about clicker ticket and the cops are watching you.
00:25:22.000They have big signs all over London that say, stay in front of the watchful eyes, and it shows a big brother, one eye, looking at you.
00:25:29.000This is, I mean, they know what they're doing.
00:25:48.000I mean, yeah, you're right in terms of surveillance and control has increased enormously and what we're concerned about is particularly on protests where Um, there's such a large-scale documentation of people that are involved.
00:26:07.000Well, the misconduct of the police is being caught on video cameras everywhere.
00:26:14.000And their attempt to say it's terrorism or pedophilia, to have a camera and take a picture of the Washington Monument, it isn't going to work.
00:26:20.000I mean, I don't see this working for them.
00:26:23.000I don't think it will, ultimately, because I think, um, People are really beginning to realize what's going on.
00:26:32.000I don't think the police are really that different.
00:26:34.000I think what's changed is, A, that there's so much more technology around for people to capture what they're doing, and also the arrogance that, for example, the video of our arrest, you know, that they thought it was okay to video that and... Exactly!
00:26:51.000Why are they so arrogant to torture women, slam their hands in car doors, and laugh about it on video?
00:26:57.000I mean, we have New York cops coming up to 9-11 activists, truth activists, in New York saying, I'm gonna say your camera's a gun, your backpack's a bomb, I know you're not a terrorist, it's on video, but I'm gonna say you are.
00:27:09.000I mean, I mean, I mean, and then the police grab Luke Radowski.
00:27:13.000I mean, they are framing people on video, proudly, I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:27:30.000Even if it goes through the press, even if it goes through the complaint system, even if it goes through the courts at the end of the day, there's not a lot that's going to happen to them as a result of it.
00:27:39.000Yeah, they pretty much feel that they can do what they want.
00:27:42.000Did you hear about Army and Marine Corps recruiters in Texas and in Colorado and other states lie to kids and say you'll be arrested if you don't sign and join the military?
00:27:51.000And then when the tapes get released, those guys get promoted?
00:27:54.000I mean, is the state going completely criminal?
00:28:01.000I think the state's always been a bit criminal.
00:28:11.000The state's always worked in the interest of the rich and the powerful over everyone else, and in that sense I think it's always been criminal and it will always devise laws and strategies to keep the rich and powerful in power.
00:28:25.000So where does it go from here with this case?
00:28:28.000Are these cops going to get in trouble or are they going to end up being chief constables for this, the more people they torture?
00:28:34.000Oh, my money's on the chief constable.
00:28:52.000Them all wearing little gold crowns and being worshipped?
00:28:56.000Oh, it ends when enough people stand up to them and say we're not going to take this anymore and we're going to do something about it.
00:29:02.000It doesn't come through politicians saying this is bad, it comes from people on the street actually doing something about it and just saying no.
00:29:11.000Yeah, because they're just bullies at the end of the day, Michael Bullies, you know?
00:29:14.000You just have to stand up to them, innit?
00:29:18.000I want to do a few more minutes with you on the other side, then we'll let you go and also plug your great site.
00:29:22.000But I want to ask you when we get back, how you got involved with this, why the police torture you for it, and if more people are joining you.
00:29:31.000I mean, I would love to see, instead of two women out there videotaping them, a hundred men and women, so that they can't arrest everybody for videotaping these supposed kings.
00:29:44.000Because, I mean, folks, men and women in black uniforms, choking and torturing women, it's tyranny.
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00:33:45.000As we attempt to just point out the totally insane activities, the criminal activities of government and desperately try to get our fellow humans to wake up and say no and tell government, you're not our God, we have basic rights.
00:33:58.000Because in every case in history, governments always try to enslave their populations and it's happening again today.
00:34:05.000It's happening right now in a big way.
00:34:08.000In closing with Emily Apple and Val Swain, great ladies, who head up fitwatch.blogspot.com.
00:34:16.000Fitwatch, because that's the name of the forward intelligence team, the secret police that go out and gather intel on everybody.
00:34:24.000And I was talking to this newspaper reporter who's here doing a story on us.
00:34:28.000I wasn't going to do the interview because I'm so busy, but I didn't want it to look like I was scared to be interviewed, so the Wall Street Journal's in here doing a big story.
00:34:36.000Don't worry, we're not going to put you on TV, ma'am.
00:34:39.000And she was just, she just got back from England and she was telling me how she was also doing, while she was there visiting family, she was doing a story on travel.
00:34:47.000And she was at the big beautiful canals taking pictures and citizens would come over and go, man you're not allowed to take photos of the canal or anything!
00:34:55.000It is the Family Protection Act, pedophilia!
00:34:58.000And then she would go on and she said other citizens would come up.
00:35:01.000Ah ma'am, excuse me, we're at Tattletales now.
00:35:03.000Secret Police, Stasi, we do it worse than East Germany, ha ha!
00:36:31.000Just like in the old gladiator system, you would watch your neighbor being torn apart and cheer, and the next week it'd probably be you getting torn apart for whatever petty crime, or not paying your taxes.
00:36:42.000I mean, just the groveling to police I hear on the radio, and no matter what they do, they taser an old woman, they taser a baby, they taser somebody to make them, you know, urinate in a cup.
00:37:08.000And then you'll see England ruled two weeks ago, and so did the U.S., because it's all integrated simultaneously.
00:37:13.000And then you'll find the Miami cases, where if you can't urinate at the hospital and they want a drug test, they just taser you and taser you until you die!
00:37:23.000But now, I'm sorry, Emily Apple and Val Swain, what makes you want to do this?
00:37:27.000To go out and stand up against dehumanization?
00:37:29.000Tell us about yourselves, how you got involved in this.
00:37:35.000I've been involved in anti-war environmental protest stuff like that for 15 odd years and over the years I've seen more and more repression and protests and especially with the forward intelligence teams it's just been so much intimidation so much harassment and it's been forcing people off the streets And it meant we've got to the point where we can no longer have an effective voice, or it was getting to that point.
00:38:05.000And so, it just seemed that if we wanted to have any kind of process movement in the UK, that we needed to tackle the forward intelligence teams in order to do that.
00:38:17.000I'm looking at these cops enjoying abusing you.
00:38:22.000Nobody will remember, though, like the creatures they are, for what they are.
00:38:26.000So, how long have you been doing this?
00:38:29.000We've been doing FitWatch for about two years now, just over two years.
00:38:34.000And you've certainly had some battles, I would imagine.
00:38:38.000Yeah, I think we worked out that we've been arrested eleven times between us, I think that's right, and no convictions in the last two years just for doing FitWatch stuff.
00:39:30.000And there was a couple of holidaymakers in Cardiff who got taken to prison because they were taking photographs of each other in the park and there just happened to be a football stadium in the background which was A supposed terrorist attack.
00:39:44.000Um, I was taking photographs of, um, the Welsh Assembly, which is one of the government buildings here.
00:40:22.000They like to throw this threat around that, you know, you do as we tell you or we're going to arrest you.
00:40:28.000But, you know, they still can't get away with locking everybody up.
00:40:34.000Well, that's the answer, is to have everybody go out and do this.
00:40:37.000Did you hear me talk about the Wall Street Journal writer trying to do a story on travel?
00:40:41.000And, uh, they just, uh, the citizens come over, like, I mean, what percentage, on average, how many of your fellow Brits just revel in the tattletailing and bossing?
00:40:59.000Well, I mean, In any police state, you also have the cheerleaders for the police state, the Citizen Tattletail Squads.
00:41:06.000What are you seeing on that front in the UK?
00:41:09.000I don't think they have many cheerleaders.
00:41:12.000I mean, everyone I speak to has a lot less trust in the police than I think everyone, the people had before.
00:41:22.000Even, you know, people with good jobs, with good standing in society are turning around and saying, no, we just don't trust them, can't have any trust.
00:41:30.000Well, the Wall Street Journal reporter said she had multiple people come up and say she couldn't photograph parks or rivers or anything.
00:41:38.000I mean, if you try to photograph flowers, it's some type of al-Qaeda.
00:41:41.000But, I mean, again, they're surveilling us, they're watching us, they're tracking us, they're controlling everything we do illegally, but then we go out with our cameras and act like it's the end of the world through color of law.
00:41:53.000I mean, this is just absolutely incredible.
00:43:03.000We're going to punch that up on screen and show that.
00:43:07.000To the viewers, do you ever talk to these guys when they're abusing you or violating your rights and say, I'm a human, why do you want to do this?
00:43:13.000Don't you know you're destroying England?
00:43:15.000Or is it even pointless to talk to them?
00:43:18.000I find it pretty pointless to talk to them, really.
00:44:13.000Is it just now, yeah, we murder whoever we want and that's the way it is?
00:44:17.000Oh no, they're saying now that they're doing a big review of policing and it'll all be different and everything's going to change.
00:44:25.000And of course it turns out that they'll actually only encourage it, that's what they want is attack dogs, that they lied and had a fake coroner say that he died of a heart attack but then they had a second autopsy done and it wasn't what they'd said.
00:46:41.000That already happened by the offshore banks, corporations, the National Security Council, and that whole National Security Act umbrella.
00:46:48.000Now, they're grabbing GM and hacking it up and giving pieces of it to who they want in Chrysler, and grabbing what dealerships they want and giving it to who they want.
00:46:56.000They're grabbing the infrastructure, the power plants, the land, the lakes, the roads, the schools.
00:47:03.000They're openly announcing every major state's federalizing their police.
00:47:07.000Arizona just announced they're merging the state police with the feds.
00:47:10.000I mean, it is just off the charts, and that's coming up later in the next hour.
00:47:15.000Full frontal assault on every aspect of freedom.
00:47:17.000Fixing to high gear as the elite twists the knife into the rotting carcass of the United States.
00:47:23.000I mean, this is just... And now they got the bills to openly ban everything I'm saying and arrest me under felony charges.
00:48:04.000Look, I was just wondering, do these folks ever consider the constitutionality of the laws that they pass?
00:48:12.000Because this latest thing they passed in the House seems like it It's a complete invasion of privacy.
00:48:18.000It may be against the 9th and 10th Amendment, too.
00:48:22.000No, listen, it's home inspections, 10th Amendment violation, everything regulated, anything that has carbon.
00:48:29.000It creates boards with unlimited power to take over whatever they want.
00:48:33.000Just like they got gun bills to let the Attorney General ban whatever he wants.
00:48:36.000Just like they got water bills to let the EPA take over whatever they want.
00:48:40.000Everything they're doing now is about Total corporate dictatorship, and then Obama creates corporate boards that sit above the government agencies and tell them what to do.
00:49:22.000They're openly announcing a Bank of the World and the Federal Reserve will be the governorship of the U.S.
00:49:27.000and that no one can review it, no one can touch it, and any financial transaction or anything that affects the economy is under their regulation with no oversight.
00:49:36.000A private corporation through treaty, that's what this congressional law is, it's a treaty with a corporation, will rule America completely.
00:49:46.000They already used the money power to buy everything up.
00:50:21.000We're going to have a corporate tyranny, kind of a British imperial model, a behind-the-scenes corporate model, where they create this web of international laws where they're above them, and then all of us are ensnared in them.
00:50:33.000And so you just reveal how ridiculous it is to have foreign offshore banks openly buying off our governments and having our government illegally cede and abdicate their power falsely over to them.
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00:54:43.000We're going to continue with your phone calls in a moment in this segment and the next and Wayne Madge is on about 30 minutes and then open phones throughout the rest of the transmission today.
00:54:52.000Sean, Josh, Dave, Andy Illuminati, Michael and others that are patiently holding.
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00:56:49.000I want to thank you for taking my call.
00:56:51.000One quick comment real quick about your guests earlier.
00:56:54.000You know, I think it's great what they're doing with Fit.
00:56:58.000And I think more people now are waking up to, you know, police brutality and that, because if you take a look at YouTube, even from a year ago to now, the number of police brutality videos and people that are documenting police misactions have exploded online, and so I congratulate them.
00:57:13.000Well, the incredible part about it is, is that the EMTs in Oklahoma a month ago said, this crazy cop came up, almost hit us in the back end, we pulled right over, And then he chased us, he went to his call, it was nothing, came back, chased us down through a neighborhood, started screaming at us, started pushing on us.
00:57:30.000The cop story was, they wouldn't get out of my way on purpose and then they assaulted me.
00:57:36.000Then the squad car videos released and the EMTs told the truth and the cops are on the news saying that exonerates them.
00:57:43.000This lunatic, we've shown you the video, comes up on the ambulance at 90 miles an hour.
00:57:48.000The ambulance pulls over, almost hits a car in the breakdown ditch.
00:57:54.000And this cop's on a Roid Rage, or PTSD, he's back from Iraq, and the cops can't admit they're wrong, and that's what's making them get discredited.
00:58:03.000I know most cops aren't nuts like this guy.
00:58:05.000Why are the higher-ups protecting them, is the question.
00:58:10.000And because they want the good guys to get disillusioned and leave, they want a bunch of clockwork orange type thugs.
00:58:18.000Well, my main concern was the cap and trade bill today.
00:58:22.000I'm watching MSNBC because I watch a lot of multiple news sources and I'm not just going to get my news for one place because that's how you get dumbed down.
00:58:30.000And Obama's sitting there talking about how energy legislation in California during the 70s has led to, you know, job creation and that... Stay there, we're back to you in 70 seconds.
01:01:30.000Wayne Madsen is our guest for the next 30 minutes, but I wanted to finish up with John in Texas was bringing up the cap and trade, what's happening with that, and we'll go right to Wayne Madsen.
01:01:41.000Well, he's saying that he's using California, and he's saying that the climate change reform that happened in the 70s has helped keep
01:01:51.000California's economy is up to par with the rest of the nation, but I don't think he knows that California is bankrupt because he's out there touting California as... Their cap-and-trade reform led to them creating jobs, but now California is bankrupt, so it's really not the best example he could be giving.
01:02:16.000For economic reform, it's to say, hey, look at this bankrupt state, and let's... Well, look, look, look.
01:02:21.000It's going to completely shut down the economy, and the only parts of the economy that are going to survive are the ones that get government funding, and that's what the big monopoly corporations aren't free market.
01:02:31.000They're monopoly capitalists, and so you're going to see a vertical integration of the economy big time.
01:02:36.000This has nothing to do with the environment.
01:02:38.000There are some serious issues with the environment, like toxic waste, genetic engineering, that have to be looked at and dealt with.
01:02:44.000This is a total takeover of all human activity, industrial activity on the planet.
01:02:49.000It's like Obama publicly, if you give big campaign contributions to Democrats, your $15 million Minnesota dealership gets to stay with your family.
01:02:57.000But if not, they just come and take it, because the government runs GM now.
01:03:00.000And now, ladies and gentlemen, Wayne Madsen.
01:03:59.000And I wanted to get into the economy and a lot more.
01:04:01.000But first off, what do you think of the cap and trade?
01:04:05.000Well, you know, they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and, you know, certainly trying to save the planet is a good intention, but it's the mechanics we see.
01:04:18.000You know, this whole thing with the carbon credit trading, it looks like it's just another one of these scams that's being perpetrated.
01:04:24.000The carbon exchanges, you know, I mean, it looks like people are making money, and You know, today, Bernie Madoff was sentenced to 150 years in prison for running a Ponzi scheme, but I think there's a lot more Ponzi schemes out there that have yet to be uncovered.
01:04:42.000Well, we know Madoff acted alone, and now the $170-plus billion that they're now saying they've seized is going into a black hole.
01:04:50.000But come on, Ken Lay came up with carbon trading.
01:04:53.000Ken Lay is a fine upstanding person, Wayne.
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01:08:15.000Oh, I forgot to tell you guys. I forgot to tell you guys.
01:08:34.000Go to the Alex Jones channel on YouTube, because that's where it's posted, Top Story, of Wayne Madsen on Russia Today.
01:08:40.000I want to play a clip of that later, before he leaves us, because I want to give credit where credit's due.
01:08:47.000Of the reporters I know out there, I would interview Wayne Madsen five, six, seven years ago, and I know he was a credible reporter, but You know, sometimes that he kept breaking big news, I would, you know, think, man, could this guy be for real?
01:08:59.000And he just continues to be right about everything, and he just is always telling us, when I call him up, to come over a few weeks about other big stories he's working on.
01:09:08.000He put us on to a reporter about white supremacists in the Army and FBI and BATF and tied into Von Brun, and I looked at it and found some news reports from a decade ago about it.
01:09:19.000But I was still vetting it before I named a bunch of top army officers and people, and then suddenly it's on the National Press Club this weekend, you know, big news.
01:09:27.000So maybe we'll get him to talk a little bit about that as well, because he's really got his ear to the ground, and of course he worked in intelligence, and the U.S.
01:09:34.000government reports on intelligence, but Bird Flu, the first person I said it's obviously manufactured, just as a layman interviewing scientists, because I knew you don't get a suddenly new mutation strain that's part pig, part bird, part human, with no lineage.
01:09:52.000A normally occurring, nature-developed flu strain, from all the scientists and virologists we've talked to, has a pedigree.
01:10:54.000And now Baxter Pharmaceutical tied in with putting live bird flu in with vaccine production labs, and that gets covered up, and then homeless die in Europe in secret vaccine trial.
01:11:24.000Tell us, how did you know about the flu and what's your latest intel?
01:11:28.000Well, you know this whole thing with this so-called swine flu, which is really a hybrid flu.
01:11:34.000The Centers for Disease Control even called it a novel flu.
01:11:38.000Even they're saying this is new because of the appellation they've given this particular virus.
01:11:46.000I first heard about this from a researcher who's a virologist who's looking at this in a laboratory, and this researcher, what a compelling story.
01:11:58.000I'd love to identify this person, but it would, you know, And right now, this individual is conducting the research and everything this person has told me has come to pass.
01:12:12.000I heard in late April, early May, the prediction of this researcher was this thing was going to multiply around the world and in a couple months every country on the planet would have infections.
01:12:46.000The other prediction of the researcher was that it would begin to mutate and that any vaccine that would be created to handle the new mutated, well, the present virus, right now the AH1N1, if it mutates, that vaccine would not work against that particular form of the flu.
01:13:06.000Now we know from Brazil and Germany that the This blue is now mutating, so that prediction has come true.
01:13:13.000And now we know that it came out in the news today that That this mutated version of the flu is now... The vaccine won't help.
01:13:31.000And I just believe that this individual who's working very closely with the person who created this virus in the laboratory was right on the money.
01:13:52.000Army, Fort Detrick, and the National Institutes of Health dug up the corpse of a very obese Eskimo woman who died of this in 1918.
01:14:03.000...found some tissue they could use, took it back to the Drug Forces Pathology Institute in Rockville, Maryland, which is just down the highway from Fort Detrick, and recreated this, and then began to gene splice it.
01:14:15.000And that's what we have today with the H1N1, what they call swine flu.
01:14:31.000And as I suggested today, I think the FBI should start investigating this, they should seize the records, start interviewing these people, and there's also a lab in Connecticut called the Winnipeg National Microbiology Lab, and the RCMP should do the same thing there, but so far we've seen nothing.
01:14:52.000This is scary because they're hyping it, the media is saying it's going to get bad in the fall when it's only killed less than 30-40 people, depending on what numbers you look at.
01:15:03.000And then you've got all these scientists saying, yeah, it's been manipulated genetically from a lab somewhere, but then there's no big debate about the mystery of where it came from.
01:15:11.000Instead, it's a mystery about You know, did Michael Jackson commit suicide?
01:15:17.000I mean, you know, I don't care about Michael Jackson.
01:15:19.000I care about my kids dying of some weaponized flu, and I care about forced inoculations for a flu vaccine.
01:16:43.000The individual who created this actually has a financial interest In a company that manufactures a laboratory that manufactures the vaccine, or is trying to find a vaccine to manufacture for this particular strain, and maybe future mutated strains.
01:16:59.000So, it looks like this is a situation where there was a criminal intent here all along, and I'm surprised that the FBI, the RCMP, and other law enforcement agencies aren't looking at that, because now it was reported that over a million people Yeah, that's USA Today and Reuters.
01:17:27.000It's novel, so normal virologists look at it and get scared, but it's not that bad acting, so it's perfect to spread, create fear, but not actually kill a lot of people.
01:17:37.000Is that what they're planning, just to sell vaccines, or is it cold-bloodedly designed?
01:17:43.000To then become airborne, more airborne, and kill more people?
01:17:48.000Well, I think all possibilities are on the table as far as this is concerned.
01:17:53.000You know, it's just the amazing thing is how the media hyped it when it was in Mexico, and what we had about 70 people infected there.
01:18:03.000Now we have over a million in this country, and only a thousand in Europe are being reported.
01:18:09.000So it's clear that the United States is ground zero for this.
01:18:12.000I think that we just had the first reported case from Nepal today.
01:18:17.000A family came back from the United States.
01:18:19.000If you look at all these countries, they're experiencing infections.
01:18:23.000Nine times out of ten, the people have just battled from the United States.
01:18:27.000That's right, they're now saying the epicenter is either China or the United States, but you're saying China, that's a red herring.
01:18:32.000That would make sense because we're more healthy here, and so we're not dying of it, but Mexico is the perfect incubator, Mexico City, because they're so run down.
01:18:41.000Well, and there's another interesting factor here, too.
01:18:45.000Back in early May, there was an individual who was traveling from the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg to take up a new job at the National Institute for Health here in Bethesda, Maryland.
01:18:57.000This individual was a native of the Ivory Coast in Africa.
01:19:00.000He had at the border, the North Dakota-Manitoba border, bringing in vials with Ebola virus genetic material and HIV genetic material.
01:19:12.000Yeah, you know what the guy was put in jail.
01:19:14.000He went to trial at the U.S. District Court.
01:19:18.000I believe it was in Fargo or maybe Grand Forks.
01:19:21.000I don't remember that, but the person was given a fine, a small fine, and the sentence was 17 days in jail.
01:19:30.000He had already served, so that's what somebody gets for trying to bring virulent streams of Ebola, of all things, into the United States.
01:19:42.000You know, you try to travel with some shampoo on a plane, you're probably going to get a year in jail.
01:19:48.000Well we got Dr. Bianca, we got Dr. Bianca running around, Dr. Eric Bianca running around the countryside, uh, you know, saying he can't wait for airborne Ebola to kill 90% of us.
01:20:00.000Wayne Madsen, let's finish up with this and then get into the white supremacist in the U.S.
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01:21:21.000The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
01:21:30.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:21:32.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
01:22:09.000On the average, Americans work between 45 to 50 years, hoping to build up enough wealth to retire and live out their golden years.
01:22:15.000Unfortunately, with taxation, the rising cost of food, energy, housing and medical, many retirees are forced to live below the poverty line.
01:22:23.000Is this a flaw for the enterprise, or is our monetary unit we call the Federal Reserve Note forcing us into perpetual debt?
01:25:19.000So we're not getting the straight scoop from the World Health Organization, even though they've declared this a level six pandemic.
01:25:26.000And certainly the Centers for Disease Control, which were for weeks saying that, you know, they were undercounting the number of infections in this country.
01:25:36.000Now we find out that over a million people are infected here.
01:25:40.000There's a real problem with getting good information from these so-called public health, international and national public health organizations.
01:25:49.000Well, Wayne, that was the question I wanted to ask you.
01:25:51.000Three or four days into the panic, City official, I know, I'll just leave it at that, came to the office and brought the internal memorandum from a CDC meeting with state and city officials in San Antonio, where they didn't shut down some schools just north of San Antonio.
01:26:13.000And it said, we're telling the public we're at level four, we're already at level five, in ninety hours, ninety-two hours, or is it ninety-six, ninety-plus hours, we're really going to level six, but no one's going to be told.
01:26:26.000And I went on air and posted, you know, the document, and people didn't believe me, and then later it came out, oh, we're at level six, we've been under it a while.
01:26:35.000So it's almost like they're drilling for when there really is a level six someday.
01:26:38.000It's like they're saying it's a level six in name only, For a worldwide pandemic, but I mean, I have that document, and the document says there have been many more deaths and many more illnesses, and I kept getting that chatter from other state and federal people I know.
01:26:54.000So, is this like a fire drill, or is this the real deal?
01:26:58.000Well, we don't know how this is going to mutate.
01:27:01.000As a matter of fact, the news today is in the mainstream media anyway, that this may mutate into a more virulent strain.
01:27:08.000So, we may not have seen the worst yet.
01:27:10.000The worst may be coming, but certainly we haven't seen, you know, the health minister of India criticize this country for not screening people, even the United States, because we are the point of infection for many of these countries now.
01:27:24.000They're experiencing their first cases, whether it's one individual in the case in Nepal with a family of three traveled from New York back there.
01:27:32.000Same reports from many, many different countries around the world that the first cases are from the United States, but there seems to be no interest by our public health officials here to try to stop the spread of this overseas.
01:27:46.000We've got over a million cases, but we're seeing a huge spike today, reported in England.
01:27:53.000Australia, it's a very bad situation, Australia.
01:27:56.000And the worst case scenario is those countries that have no public health infrastructure.
01:28:02.000And now we have the first cases now being reported in Sub-Saharan Africa, India, and Bangladesh.
01:28:07.000Can you imagine how many people live there, and how easily that will be spread in a country like that?
01:28:13.000Why secretly have a level six months ago and then announce it a few weeks ago?
01:28:27.000Well, you would think that this would be very transparent.
01:28:29.000You know, a public health issue, why sit on information?
01:28:33.000That would be like sitting on weather reports.
01:28:36.000But the way they're dealing with this, we might as well be dealing with meetings at the Federal Reserve.
01:28:41.000A lot of this stuff is just being held very close.
01:28:45.000You would think you would want to inform the public.
01:28:48.000About a pandemic, but we see information being withheld on a daily basis, and it makes no sense, and I have to think that there's some, you know, criminal predicate to all this, and it would be nice to see them investigated.
01:29:01.000But I'm not holding my breath, because it would have been nice to see the FBI really investigate the anthrax attacks on the media in Congress, and they blame this poor Dr. Ivins, who was actually trying to find the perpetrator.
01:29:13.000They said, you know, it was him after, of course, And now it's coming out that his DNA at the mailbox doesn't match and that he's basically innocent and nobody wants to talk about how he died in the government mental institution.
01:29:26.000They just say he took his own life, yeah, locked up in a mental institution when they secretly grabbed him.
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01:33:08.000You know, the term twittering around is kind of ruined now because I haven't always used that the term twittering around is kind of ruined now because I He was twittering about, you know, ninnying.
01:33:33.000But now Twitter, kind of like, instead of saying a search engine, you've got to say Google.
01:33:38.000People want me to use the names of other systems and not plug Google, but that's now the universal term.
01:33:44.000I've got to use the semantical lexicon to communicate with people.
01:33:47.000Hannah Montana is on her Twitter account asking who I am, and then they say, Heidi's boyfriend Spencer Pratt is a big InfoWars fan, and post to his Twitter account.
01:33:57.000And then it's all these people talking about me.
01:34:00.000What's interesting about this is, is that when I go to Hollywood, literally, there aren't really any stars I've ever met or run into that aren't already fans of the show.
01:34:11.000And, of course, Rick Linklater talked about how he gave my films to Bruce Willis, and that woke him up, and people didn't believe it.
01:34:18.000And then, Vanity Fair asked him about it, and it kind of left me out of it, but then he, that's where the quote came from in Vanity Fair, of him saying, yeah, the people that killed Kennedy still run the government, and I'm not left or right anymore.
01:34:30.000And that's what Rick Linklater, I mean, the point is, all these people, Keanu Reeves, uh, I didn't wake up, uh, Charlie Sheen.
01:34:39.000Charlie Sheen, um, I was already very, very awake.
01:34:44.000But the exciting thing is when Hannah Montana starts to ask who I am, you know we're having an effect.
01:34:50.000All right, I'm going to shop about that and go back to Wayne Madsen.
01:34:54.000But, Wayne, before we get into the white supremacist riddling the government, according to some of the reports some of your colleagues have been putting out in your own research, you've written some articles on it, now coming out in mainstream news as usual, you're kind of over the horizon sight.
01:35:07.000Liberty, freedom, waking up to the corporate structure.
01:35:15.000Oh, certainly, and I think, you know, the fact is more people are now going to the internet for their news, and they're getting off those George Orwell telescreens, you know, the three 24x7 cable news networks, which is nothing more than propaganda.
01:35:32.000And, you know, now here in Washington we have under construction a place called the Institute, the U.S.
01:35:39.000Institute for Peace, which is really the U.S.
01:35:52.000You know, the latest one, of course, is Honduras, where it looks like our fingerprints are all over that coup.
01:35:57.000Well, I wanted to ask you about that because it's coming out, the generals as you know, people may not, but I want you to talk about it, because you were in intelligence, that they are, were trained in School of Americas, he was going to legalize drugs, he was actually fighting the cartels, CIA doesn't let that happen, that's their main business, but getting into the racists, we saw von Brun, he attacks in 81 or 82 with fake dynamite and a gun, they disarm him easily, he's held for six years, he's then released,
01:36:25.000He's got all these weird Southern Poverty Law Center connections.
01:36:27.000You know, they got caught running the white supremacist compound in L.A.
01:36:30.000City with McVeigh, according to FBI documents declassified.
01:36:34.000And suddenly, Von Brun, right when they're trying to pass all these hate crimes laws, and it got it passed at the House.
01:36:40.000It happened right as that vote was happening.
01:36:42.000Now, going to the Senate, Von Brun pops up, and it turns out, when we were at the National Press Club interviewing you and others, That some of the reporters you introduced us to, and now it's been national news, were saying Von Brun was tied into special forces, colonels, commanders, connections of white supremacists, the good old boy roundup from 92 on 60 Minutes with the BATF and FBI selling N-Word hunting licenses.
01:37:09.000Well, the number one person on this is a fellow by the name of John Edward Hurley, and we actually had a forum at the Press Club on Friday about Justice Department malfeasance in some political prosecutions, notably against Governor Sigelman of Alabama and a few other high-ranking Democrats in the Southern states.
01:37:28.000But one of the things, Hurley was a longtime colleague of the White House Press correspondent Sarah McLendon, who actually was more senior than Helen Thomas.
01:37:40.000She died a few years ago, but John Hurley was on to this back during Iran-Contra, where he noted that a lot of the people involved with these white supremacist clan neo-Nazi organizations... That's like G. Gordon Liddy with Nixon thought that he was like a German general, but go ahead.
01:37:58.000Right, well he found out that many of these people were involved in Iran-Contra, they were in the Reagan administration, they were in the Bush 1 administration, more recently they were in the George W. Bush administration.
01:38:10.000A lot of these individuals were Also, paid informants of the FBI, and we know that one person whose name was mentioned, a guy who worked with Von Brun, this guy Todd Blodgett, he came right out and said he was a paid informant.
01:38:28.000But these people all were in the Bush 1 administration, a lot of them were in the Bush 1 administration.
01:38:32.000And I remember my days at Ole Miss where my history professors, Southern history professors, were telling me back during the days of, you know, the Klan, that there were so many FBI infiltrators.
01:38:44.000One FBI agent who had infiltrated the Klan would be reporting on other Klan members who turned out to also be FBI agents.
01:38:51.000In fact, there were some meetings where there'd be five people and four of them would be FBI.
01:38:58.000But anyway, yeah, this is a big problem.
01:39:02.000And now many of these people have glommed onto this anti-terrorism, counter-terrorism thing after 9-11, but they're there, they've infiltrated.
01:39:11.000As you say, they're in many different parts of the government, both as political appointees, as we saw under the Reagan and Bush administrations, but others are senior civil service.
01:39:22.000But, uh, you have to wonder about, uh, just what is the FBI up to when they're running these people and then they commit these acts.
01:39:31.000That's my question, is, I'm sure you remember 60 Minutes at 92, where the militia guys went in and they were hanging black people on effigy.
01:39:38.000BATF, FBI, close to a thousand, I think at the meeting, was it Alabama or South Carolina?
01:39:42.000In fact, pull up good ol' boy Roundup for me.
01:39:45.000They were selling, you know, N-word hunting licenses and all this.
01:39:49.000I researched it more, and it's not just that the FBI and BATF and CIA are running the white supremacist groups, getting them to stage attacks and then take our rights, but they really are Nazis.
01:40:09.000Well, I have to point out, I live in Arlington, Virginia, and this is where George Lincoln Rockwell had his American Nazi Party headquarters.
01:40:17.000And here's a guy who was a commander in the Navy during World War II.
01:40:21.000We lose over 600,000 people fighting the Axis in that war.
01:40:25.000This guy Rockwell is running a ladies' magazine in Manhattan, but decides all of a sudden to come to the Washington area and start the American Nazi Party.
01:40:34.000I heard from an old friend of mine now deceased who investigated Rockwell for Reader's Digest Magazine and found out that a lot of his money was actually coming from the ADL.
01:40:46.000George Lincoln Rockwell, when he ran that magazine in New York, his biggest advertisers for U.S.
01:40:53.000Lady were Bergdorf Goodman, Macy's, Saks, Gimbel's, all these Jewish-owned department stores.
01:41:02.000Why in the world would he just then turn around, come to Washington, and start the American Nazi Party?
01:41:07.000Well, it's obvious that he was part of this idea.
01:41:10.000We've got to keep our thing going, so we start this guy up, and we can point to him and say, look, there's still a threat.
01:41:17.000I think this has been going on for decades in this country, and the FBI is perfectly content to work with some of these people, And I think, you know, it's just...
01:41:26.000I think it's part of the Segellian dialectic where you have two sides playing off against one another.
01:41:32.000Well yeah, they gotta have an enemy to take the general public's liberties and freedoms and spy on us.
01:41:38.000And so every time I research Nazis, I find out they're joined to the hip with the ADL and Southern Poverty Law Center and the FBI.
01:41:44.000They're just a bunch of whacked out freaks!
01:41:48.000What do you think about this hate crimes bill?
01:41:51.000I was reading the subsection and found out, it's passed the House, that it has the same subsection as the other act, the cyberbullying, where it says if you criticize someone and it hurts their feelings, the feds will charge you with a felony.
01:42:05.000I mean, Wayne, It seems on every front, federal government takeover, private Federal Reserve takeover, a water bill takeover of all water in the country.
01:42:19.000Well, you know, this law may not survive the Supreme Court, because I would note today that the Supreme Court ruled against Missouri, which wanted to bring charges against this Westboro Baptist Church, this guy, where they picket the funerals of guys coming back from Iraq, guys that got killed over there.
01:42:43.000But the Supreme Court upheld the right of that Westboro as nutty as they are.
01:42:50.000For those that don't know, the First Amendment is to protect nuts like that who are really, I think, very distasteful.
01:42:56.000But it's there for distasteful speech, not for speech you like.
01:43:00.000Right, so I would say based on the Supreme Court's ruling today, that that hate crime legislation may not pass muster, because somebody obviously is going to bring suit against that if they're ever charged under that.
01:43:12.000And the Supreme Court, we've already got now the Supreme Court ruling in that particular area.
01:43:19.000Well, Wayne, I've got to say the Supreme Court, you know, a lower federal court, said they could strip search little girls because she gave a friend a Advil, and they strip searched her.
01:43:29.000And a lower court said they could do that.
01:43:32.000The higher court, as you know, last Friday said they couldn't.
01:43:35.000So we're actually seeing... Except for Clarence Porno-Thomas.
01:43:59.000My take on Sotomayor, even though the court ruled against her ruling on that New Haven fire, Firefighters that deal where they said that they were subject to reverse discrimination and I have a feeling that Sotomayor is going to be very much like Judge Souter.
01:44:17.000The word is that she's very big on privacy issues, although there's not a whole lot of case law there, but people who know or have read her decisions feel that she's really going to be another Souter.
01:44:27.000So we may see the court not move at all, especially in the area of, you know, cracking down on free speech.
01:44:35.000Hey, Wayne, I was just on waynemadsreport.com, and I'm sorry I'm ignorant.
01:45:17.000They decided not to prosecute that, but it's a whole other thing now.
01:45:21.000I've got to get the record expunged, and that's actually done by a higher court where there's really no rate of appeal.
01:45:28.000So I just found out Friday that the Commonwealth is not going to contest the expungement, but it continues, and the whole idea was...
01:45:36.000Yeah, but I mean, what's going on in Virginia and D.C.?
01:45:38.000I was there for Bilderberg last year, and everywhere I went, I would try to videotape from parks, the Washington Monument from 100 yards away, and cops would run up and threaten to arrest me, and they told me I couldn't videotape the White House, but they weren't just doing it to me.
01:45:53.000Old ladies, families, Boy Scout groups, I mean, and they'd say, we don't care.
01:45:59.000No, it's not terrorism, it's terrorism.
01:46:02.000And this happened in Kansas City to my camera guys.
01:46:45.000Uh, and then, uh, we know the West had been targeting him for overthrow.
01:46:49.000He had called for the decriminalization of drugs, uh, saying that it was basically a CIA operation, and that he, and the drug dealers didn't like him.
01:46:58.000And so I guess because he wanted to end the drug war, and the drug dealers want to keep it illegal, uh, out there for folks who don't understand this.
01:48:26.000Exactly, and whoever planned this coup didn't want to make that same mistake, so they made sure that the Honduran military was on side.
01:48:34.000I think this is a textbook case of what they teach at the School of the Americans in Fort Benning.
01:48:40.000And they also assassinated the only leftist candidate for president in the elections in November.
01:48:47.000Cesar Ham was assassinated when the Honduran troops showed up to arrest him.
01:48:52.000He was killed, so this is much more than a constitutional crisis.
01:48:56.000This is a class book military coup, the kind of thing they teach at Fort Benning, Georgia, at the School of the American.
01:49:03.000Well since, yeah, where his top military brass were trained, who just overthrew him, the Iran situation, to have Obama saying we're not involved, when the CIA officially, for at least two and a half years as you know, publicly says they were funding a student revolution, the guy that claims he's been cheated, Announced two hours before polls closed that he'd been cheated, when even U.S.
01:49:27.000polling companies said 2-1 for Ahmed Dinegide, who only won by 65% instead.
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01:54:52.000So that's coming up on the land-grabbing and stuff.
01:54:55.000I want to take your calls on a host of issues coming up here.
01:55:00.000And then I want to get into thought-crime bills, threat-and-talk radio, and cyber-bullying, not about protecting kids, it's about shutting down the Internet.
01:55:11.000But don't believe me, here is ABC7 News anti-bullying legislation, threat to free speech, Proponents say bullying can be stopped while preserving freedoms.
01:55:24.000They say this is for kids, but the way it reads is for everybody.
01:55:26.000And then we have the hate crime bill that's actually passed the House, and I want to read this to you, what it says.
01:55:32.000And this doesn't kill the First Amendment, our beloved republic's First Amendment, you know, the first of all rights, the right to free speech.
01:55:42.000I don't know what does, so that is coming up after I take some calls.
01:55:45.000And look, Watson says this is a big deal, and I guess he's right.
01:55:49.000You know, we've been critical of Hannah Montana on this same subject.
01:55:55.000It is brain rot for the young girls out there to kind of suck them into the deeper estuaries of the corporate mind control to make them feel inadequate so the new order can sell them Gardasil.
01:56:07.000But other than that, you know, we don't think Hannah Montana herself is a bad person.
01:56:17.000But we have been critical of her for supporting the end of the First Amendment.
01:56:24.000You know, she has her right to put out this tweeny stuff that I am trying to protect my daughters from.
01:58:14.000Let's blast it out there and expose these bastards making their criminal move on us right now.
01:58:19.000Let's blast down their climate change garbage with their global surf tax to the IMF and World Bank for world government even as MSNBC is admitting.
01:58:29.000Let's blast the enemy on their water takeover.
01:58:32.000Let's blast them on their hate crimes, take over the First Amendment, their attempt to totally gut the borders with the North American Union and the Hemispheric Travel ID Pass, and legalizing the illegal aliens.
01:58:42.000Let's stop them on all of their criminal activities.
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02:01:47.000I mean, they need to have, you know, notes.
02:01:51.000If you're the next door neighbor, leave a note on their car in a friendly way saying, please don't destroy the economy, please don't give us a vertically integrated crony capitalist, monopoly capitalist slave system, please don't be like the Chinese generals that own the Chinese companies.
02:02:05.000You know, for God's sakes, you know, have some humanity.
02:02:08.000And, I mean, they need to physically, like, Google the name of your congressman that voted for it and see when they're having events.
02:02:13.000You know, they have the motion to reconsider.
02:02:15.000In fact, guys, go to Infowars.com and pull it up.
02:02:20.000There's a story that we posted from the Daily Paul titled, uh, Climate Tax Traitors.
02:02:45.000Okay, I guess the second thing I wanted to touch on, I had heard about this bill.
02:02:50.000I don't remember the exact name of it, but it was the one for, you know, compassionately allowing patients to, you know, put their Terminal sickness to an end.
02:03:00.000And I mean, I watched my mom die of cancer, and I know that's a slippery slope to allow doctors to stray from the Hippocratic Oath, but on the other hand, to deny someone their personal choice isn't very patriotic.
02:03:48.000Nobody can stop you if you want to go buy a gun, or hang yourself, or take a bunch of pain pills.
02:03:54.000And, and, and, and, but hold on, the guy, I don't think, and that's a decision you make.
02:03:59.000The whole point here is the government, the eugenicists running things, the bioethicists boards, they want to ration care.
02:04:07.000They have Openly, on record, said that the government is basically going to... They're already euthanizing people in China and in Europe who don't want it.
02:04:23.000And some of the countries like the Netherlands, they have to put tattoos on themselves or bracelets saying, don't euthanize me.
02:04:29.000So the issue is, they're already euthanizing the old and infirm.
02:04:32.000The Wall Street Journal had a whole series of articles written by Mr. White, we had him on years ago,
02:04:38.000uh... about how they would uh... robert wendlandt people who would beg for food and water and be chained down and die of the rewards of the state when the government's the guardian they kill you so it's already going on that's why we're against those bills okay they don't want to pay for you it's eugenics it's like carousel carousel from logan's run and so that's my position on that more calls straight ahead two of barack obama's latest lies and betrayals he goes oh it's just politics i just lied to you
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02:08:17.000Okay, look, I want to try to go to the calls quicker now, because I got a bunch of news I want to get to, but also really enjoy your calls.
02:08:29.000Always take us in important directions.
02:08:37.000Hi, I'm actually an injured Marine, and I'm an Iraq War Veteran, and my brother called in April about my house getting GPS'd right after I went to the tea party, and yeah, I just thought I'd pick that up, but the main reason I was calling was my mother is a nurse, and she was invited to a symposium at a big hospital in the Chicagoland area, and it was about post-traumatic stress, and the main speaker was a retired Lieutenant General Honore, and
02:09:16.000He started talking about how we need to prepare for the next terrorist attack or the next natural disaster and how all these people need to get emergency kits ready soon.
02:09:27.000They need to be preparing for something.
02:09:29.000Yeah, they're going around all the federal and state agencies.
02:09:31.000We've confirmed in Indiana, they're saying get ready for millions to be buried dead out of Chicago, mass graves.
02:09:37.000I've gotten the internal state reports where they're going around surveying for mass graves all over the country for flu.
02:09:44.000And this was before the flu hyping started.
02:09:48.000And then I saw these dark winter drills and other drills dealing with it.
02:09:53.000And they may be using it as a cover for setting up their martial law grid and telling locals to scare them to go along with it, or they could be planning it.
02:10:01.000I mean, these are the guys that let black men die of syphilis and radiated children to death, foster children.
02:10:07.000And they admittedly do all this in eugenics to our We're all, basically, our neighbor gets grabbed, our cousin gets grabbed, all these young people are dying of cancer all around us, the mercury's in the shots, all of it, people are just dying everywhere, and just slowly they turn the ambient background up.
02:10:25.000You know, the corruption, the tyranny, the dehumanization just keeps fading up and up and up, and yes, They are going around GPS-ing everybody for phase one in the census, and then phase two is, some people get a 200 questions, some get a 60 questions, some get a 40 questions.
02:10:57.000It's just all about training us to be slaves.
02:11:00.000And I read that, you know, it was the London Telegraph about how in Afghanistan and Iraq, they pay the local tattletales To $5 a house, some houses $40 a house.
02:12:06.000And then they fire cruise missiles into the house, killing the family.
02:12:10.000And meanwhile, kids that were playing video games five years ago are playing video games of killing people, and now they admit they're using Xbox controllers for tanks and drones, and the kids, they're running TV ads advertising.
02:12:38.000Well, it was weird enough that he talked about being ready for the next terrorist attack or whatever during a post-traumatic stress symposium, but, like, halfway through the speech, he asked the audience, he goes, how many of you have microchips in your dogs?
02:12:55.000A couple of people raised their hands.
02:12:56.000And then he goes ahead and says, well, do you care more about your animals than you do about your kids?
02:13:02.000And it's like, yeah, it's for the children.
02:13:11.000It was at a hospital with a bunch of medical professionals there.
02:13:16.000Yeah, well let me tell you, just for people that just joined us, my cousin, who's been in the Army for 20 years plus now, he shows up, he calls us, I want to come over and have coffee.
02:13:30.000And he wasn't even stationed in Austin at the time.
02:13:33.000And he comes over, and he says, I went to his symposium, at Fort Sam Houston and they told over 200 officers in attendance that within two years we're all going to get chips.
02:13:47.000And he goes, my God, I heard you talk about that and got in your face about it at a family reunion.
02:13:51.000Then a couple years later I asked him about it and he said, I'm not going to talk to you about it.
02:15:31.000Alright, so I emailed him asking about that, and so almost instantaneously, I get this response back, and he goes, I didn't call for babies to get microchipped or anything, just some tacta, or maybe some bracelets for the elderly, which is a lie.
02:16:00.000It's just like Tokyo Rose going, G.I.s you're losing, you're not going to win.
02:16:05.000The broadcast, even as Japan was falling, a month before they dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in World War I, the Germans and the French at each other would say, you're losing, you've lost the war.
02:16:22.000So, again, the Pentagon op is, it never exists.
02:16:25.000You can have them saying they want to put chips in all Americans.
02:16:28.000When you say you don't want it, they go, I had Psychology Today on the phone with me repeatedly, and I will say, are they calling for a new world order?
02:16:36.000And he would just go, you feel they're after you.
02:16:39.000And I would say, no, I've got all these articles, it's a new world order.
02:16:42.000Uh-huh, and you feel you're persecuted.
02:16:45.000And I just told the guy from Psychology Today, I said, buddy, go ahead and say I'm making it all up.
02:17:56.000Look, they're getting ready when they implode the economy to release flu, to scare everybody to go along with it, or stage terror attacks, and they'll put us under their wings.
02:18:10.000And the NSA, and the CIA, and Defense Intelligence, you all work for foreign banks.
02:18:16.000You're running a coup on America, just like you did to third world countries, just in slow motion, because you want to make sure when you take us down, you win.
02:19:43.000Like Republicans didn't care if Bush lied about WMDs because he's our liar and we're conservative.
02:19:48.000And now they're like, Obama's lying, that's evil!
02:19:51.000And the Democrats are, that's right, and we're running things and you're just jealous.
02:19:54.000Meanwhile, the idiot Republicans, the idiot Democrats are all losing their houses, losing their jobs, losing their future because they've identified with the two political parties like a brand of soft drink or football team or automobile.
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02:26:05.000Not hiring lobbyists, not expanding the wars, bring the troops home immediately, not keep any there, just on and on and on, gonna get rid of the Patriot Act, gonna get rid of indefinite detention, gonna prosecute Bush and Cheney, all lies.
02:28:48.000Congress's job is to pass legislation.
02:28:51.000The president can veto it, or he can sign it.
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02:34:04.000Richard Reeves is in studio with us, and I want to, as promised, get to Anti-Illuminati Nevada, Michael Joseph Stewart.
02:34:12.000Leah in Kentucky and others before the show ends.
02:34:16.000And Richard, I appreciate you coming in the studio.
02:34:19.000Talking about mind control, talking about the pimp game, I want to just show a clip.
02:34:23.000And because of time constraints, just go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com and you can see Axelrod One of the White House operators, one of the strategists, on there telling Stephanopoulos, another Clinton operative, basically one of his colleagues, that, yeah, we're probably going to go ahead and look at raising taxes on people's health care and a bunch of other stuff below $125,000 a year apiece, or $250,000 as a couple.
02:34:53.000And they've already raised a bunch of other taxes.
02:34:55.000So the point is, is that Obama's lying about that.
02:35:08.000At the end of the show, we'll just show people the article so that they can at least be aware of that and know what is going on with that report.
02:35:56.000Richard, speaking of lying, 10 years ago they started announcing we're going to build a NAFTA superhighway all over the country, 34 major interstate highways, I-35 from the Pacific Ocean side of southern Mexico, all the way up through Texas, Minnesota, up into Canada, and it's going to be an international zone, you'll pay taxes to use it.
02:36:19.000And people said they didn't want it, so they said, OK, it doesn't exist, you're crazy, don't talk about those news articles, we said.
02:37:43.000You covered it real well that we have put them into SIOP mode.
02:37:47.000We've put them into SIOP mode since somewhere around 2004-2005 when it comes to this Trans-Texas Corridor issue and toll road issue.
02:37:55.000And I want to kind of broaden it a little bit.
02:37:56.000It's not just Trans-Texas Corridor but it's also about taking over existing roads and putting tolls on them.
02:38:02.0008,000 miles of roads, 10 miles on each side of the road, for private corporate interest.
02:38:05.000That's why they had the New London Kilo decision, saying private interest can take your profit.
02:38:10.000I mean, take your property for profit, not even for eminent domain.
02:38:14.000And my dad got letters, and so did I as a landowner, saying oh here's the texas landowners bill of rights and it said you have no rights you got six weeks we make an offer to take it or we take it and you don't get anything so you have a right to again the pimp game to be a slave you have a right to be burned with cigarettes and beaten with a tire Well, that's right.
02:38:34.000And you just broadened the subject even further that I had not even mentioned.
02:38:37.000It is a big deal about property rights.
02:38:40.000Huge issue of property rights involving these toll roads, involving taking existing roads and putting tolls on them, and involving the Trans-Texas Corridor, NAFTA Highway, whatever semantical words you want to use to call them.
02:38:54.000We are calling for a huge rally here at the State Capitol.
02:38:57.000And we're going to have Robert Morrow and TexasTurf.org, Terry Hall's organization TexasTurf.org, and a bunch of people are going to be here in the State Capitol tomorrow at 10 a.m.
02:39:08.000We're going to meet at the cafeteria that's on floor E1 of the State Capitol.
02:39:13.000And we're going to lobby all these state reps.
02:39:16.000We're going to lobby all these state reps and we need everybody around Texas to call their state reps because one of the things, you know, as well as eminent domain issues and as well as all these projects to crush the sovereignty of the United States, they're also talking about now that to use the pension funds of teachers and other government entities.
02:39:37.000Yeah, the cops out there SWAT teaming us for booty are not going to lose their pension fund.
02:39:48.000And, you know, as George Soros said, let no crisis go unused.
02:39:52.000Well, we can kind of say the same thing because it seems like every time we get to a little clutch, pinch point like this, we just happen to have a news story break in our favor.
02:40:03.000And I know you're familiar with SH-121 because you're from the Fort Worth, Dallas, Metroplex area.
02:40:08.000I spent three decades up in that area myself many years ago.
02:40:13.000And SH-121 is a very key piece of road.
02:40:16.000It's a bypass for traffic traveling east or west on I-30 and I-20.
02:40:21.000You can go SH-121 up to McKinney, Texas, and then go on up into Chicago towards the Midwest, Oklahoma, Kansas City, Missouri, etc.
02:40:29.000And you can take that route and avoid one of the worst, most heinous bottlenecks of all time, and that's LBJ Freeway, I-635, up there in Dallas-Fort Worth.
02:40:39.000Which is gridlocked from 3-3 in the afternoon until 8 at night.
02:40:42.000It's absolutely gridlock, and I want to appeal to the folks in Dallas-Fort Worth area right now, call your state reps.
02:40:48.000Because this is the beta test, where it's like an amoeba.
02:40:51.000We expose it to heat, so it splits up into a bunch of other little pieces, or kind of like in the movie The Thing, where, you know, like even the blood runs into the corners.
02:41:00.000When you cut the head off, it just, you know, they are now just doing it each one piecemeal.
02:41:06.000You know, and you just bring that up about the amoebas and how they work, and I've been to many of these House Committee hearings here at the state level, at the state capitol, I've been to Senate Committee hearings, and the majority of people that show up, I want to let the audience know, the majority of people that are showing up to these hearings are wearing suits.
02:41:59.000The NTTA, the North Texas Turnpike Authority, the outfit that runs, it's a government outfit, public outfit, that runs the North Dallas Tollway and they've got other toll roads that they're generating all kinds of revenue with, they wanted a crack at SH-121 and they were wanting to pony up and in fact, as far as I know, did pony up the $2 billion to take over SH-121.
02:42:21.000And the way that happened was that yours truly, Bob Dacey, and many other great local activists that you ignited, you're responsible for this indirectly because it was our group of local Austin activists and San Antonio activists that went to the Texas Transportation Commission in 2007, the summer of 2007, and when you're responsible for this indirectly because it was our group of local Austin activists and San Antonio activists that went to the Texas Transportation Commission in 2007, the summer of 2007, and when they were fighting over the We were arguing for a freeway.
02:42:50.000But, knowing that a freeway wasn't necessarily a viable option, we were also saying, look, we don't want it to be a toll road, but give it to the NTTA.
02:45:15.000The London Telegraph headline on this talks about how they throw the transmitters in innocent people's houses.
02:45:20.000That's the one I want, folks, not this one.
02:45:22.000And it goes on to say, ever since 9-1-1, locals in Central Asia and the Middle East have spread tales about American super-technology, soldiers with x-ray glasses, satellites they can see into homes, tanks with magnetic grenade-repelling armor.
02:45:33.000But small radio frequency and GPS emitters have been commercially available for years.
02:45:37.000And it goes, a veteran spy tells Danger Room that the use of Taliban tracking devices is entirely plausible.
02:45:43.000Yeah, no, it's a London telegraph on drones, RFID chips target wrong houses.
02:45:49.000I want to show people how they throw them in innocent people's houses.
02:45:52.000I've done a show on it, but I don't want to just make the claim.
02:45:55.000But real fast, Annie Illuminati, you post a lot of great stuff on the Prison Planet Forum about this whole control grid and how Microsoft, IBM, these are all just military industrial complex fronts.
02:46:09.000Google, obviously, hasn't even come out.
02:46:17.000But yes, they now admit that they are using the video games as interfaces to program and get a generation who want to actually pilot real ones remotely to go out and slaughter people.
02:46:29.000Right, what I want to add is that there's some really hidden companies behind all this stuff too.
02:46:34.000I want to mention something about Northern Command.
02:46:37.000The official appearance of Northern Command is actually referenced in a Council on Foreign Relations document titled, Building a North American Community, where they call for the creation of it.
02:46:48.000But the underpinnings of Northern Command's global grid to control everything, what that's about is all the different militaries in the world
02:46:59.000They all have different systems, they all have different computer systems, so that was the key with P-TECH, which stands for Process Technology, which incidentally, by the way, was used to engineer, um, to carry out the... Now listen, what I need you to do, because we're running out of time, why don't you write a blurb or an article or take some of the stuff you read in the Prison Planet Forum and send it to writers and InfoWars and we'll look over it and try to get it up.
02:47:20.000But what is your point specifically about using the Xbox and other interfaces as Pentagon controller boxes?
02:47:28.000Well, that was, that's how they, uh, the idea behind that is they know that people aren't gonna, you know, particularly Americans, uh, they're not gonna willingly kill their own people, so they have to, what they've done, for example, they can take Google Earth imagery, they've done this, and then they overlay that into something like Second Life, for example, to have like a virtual world on wargaming in the U.S., and then They can just make the people using this called C4ISR.
02:47:55.000And then in a Pavlovian fashion, they practice murdering American citizens and become acclimated.
02:48:00.000Yeah, write an article, send it to us.
02:48:01.000No, I'm aware of that, that Doom was originally developed for the Pentagon.
02:48:05.000It wasn't called Doom, where you just kill people all day.
02:48:07.000It creates instinctive killing, so you don't not want to kill somebody up close.
02:48:12.000And so, they've gone from over half the troops not killing people up close to 99% killing, honing killer instincts, and then in most of the video games now, you practice murdering the militias, taking their guns, and that's a lot of the games.
02:48:26.000Your comments on that, Richard Reeves?
02:48:27.000Well, it's definitely another mind-control project to program these young folks to do whatever they're ordered to do.
02:48:33.000By the way, I know a high-level individual who worked at Microsoft.
02:48:38.000And he worked for a couple of years for Microsoft and he said that it's definitely mind control.
02:48:43.000Xbox is supposed to become like your Facebook, the center of your life.
02:48:47.000But this is before Facebook was even, this is like five years ago actually, that it would all be your photos, your face, your identity, that it would add shockers, it would shock you and cause pain when you're playing.
02:48:55.000It's like in that James Bond movie when they're playing Global Domination.
02:49:47.000And I have to say, you are 100% right And one discrepancy that's very interesting is if you listen to the audiobook version, then leave out Chuck.
02:49:59.000And in the book, if you read Chapter 8, it's called The World Beyond Our Borders.
02:50:03.000And in there, he defines each and every one of us as a terrorist.
02:50:07.000He actually says that a terror network is any group that is against globalization.
02:50:13.000And in that chapter, he actually thinks that globalization is the New World Order.
02:50:40.000I mean, look in 2007, 2008, the Ron Paul campaign, how we grew and grew.
02:50:45.000And you asked me that question, how does this affect somebody in Indiana about the toll roads, etc.?
02:50:49.000The victories we have here in stopping these toll roads and these tracker boxes, etc., are victories that'll make it that much easier to stop in other states.
02:50:57.000Yeah, they plan to use the parasite op here to fund the rest of their... It's like a cancer gets a blood supply in the metastasize.
02:51:04.000We're a major metastasization center here.
02:51:06.000Final segment with Richard Reeves, straight ahead.
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02:56:13.000Also, I said I'd get to this, and I just ran out of time.
02:56:18.000But I got Richard Reeves in here and all these calls.
02:56:21.000The Thought Crime Bill threatens talk radio.
02:56:24.000This is in S-909 that's passed the House, now going to the Senate.
02:56:28.000Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce, radio, TV, internet, any communication with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, say anything's that, And they have definitions of it.
02:57:01.000Same language is in the cyberbullying thing being pushed by Hannah Montana.
02:57:07.000Whoever transmits interstate or foreign commerce, any communication with intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person using electronic means to support severe, repeated, or hostile behavior shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years or both.
02:57:23.000And it goes on to say, so if you say, if something hurts your feelings, They come and arrest you federally.
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