Alex Blumberg joins Alex to talk about the mysterious organization C Street, and how it ties into the growing influence of John Ashcroft's secret right-wing Christian group, The Family. C Street is a group run by a man named Todd T. Hart, who is a former member of Congress and is now running for the Senate in Kansas.
00:00:01.000...and for other associates of C-Street, the secretive ministry and living quarters for several members of Congress, at which Governor Sanford and Senator John Enson of Nevada both received some sort of counseling during their extramarital affairs.
00:00:15.000A number of other C-Street affiliates are now going on the record about the shadowy organization, mainly to defend its secrecy.
00:00:23.000Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma telling Roll Call newspaper, quote, it's a great place, and vowing to continue holding foreign policy meetings with African ambassadors at the C Street House.
00:00:35.000Former Ohio Congressman Tony Hall tells Politico.com the prayer breakfasts he attended at C Street were, quote, probably some of the best moments I had during the week, precisely because we closed the doors.
00:00:48.000Sea Street is also in the news anew because of something that happened on the House floor last week.
00:00:53.000A member of Congress, one with ties to Sea Street, argued against public funding for abortion services by saying that if there were public funding for abortion, Barack Obama might have been aborted as a fetus.
00:01:10.000If you think of it in human terms, There is a financial incentive that will be put in place, paid for by tax dollars, that will encourage women who are single parents, living below the poverty level, to have the opportunity for a free abortion.
00:01:29.000If you take that scenario and apply it to many of the great minds we have today, who would we have been deprived of?
00:01:37.000Our President grew up in those similar circumstances.
00:01:41.000If that financial incentive was in place, is it possible that his mother may have taken advantage of it?
00:01:47.000Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice, if those circumstances were in place, is it possible that we would have denied his great mind?
00:01:57.000It's Representative Todd T. Hart, Republican of Kansas.
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00:02:50.000I've seen him on a lot of national TV programs and I read an article he wrote for the New York Times.
00:02:56.000He is a New York Times best-selling author of The Family, The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power.
00:03:03.000I actually saw an article about him in the New York Times.
00:03:06.000And a contributing editor to Harper's and Rolling Stone, has been writing about the intersection of religion, politics, and culture for more than a decade.
00:03:14.000His writing on religion has earned him praise from writers, and it goes on from there.
00:03:20.000His new book is The Family, and we've got that up on screen for everybody.
00:03:25.000The secret fundamentalism at the heart of American power.
00:03:28.000He's here with us for most of the hour, then wide open phones coming up At the end of the hour, and in the fourth hour, covering the flu hype and NLEO-9, Marshall Laudrell's going on.
00:04:40.000Yeah, exactly, whether they're acting like it or not.
00:04:43.000Uh, you know, it began, I was, uh, several years ago, I was working on, uh, My first book, I was traveling around the country and spending time with unusual religious communities, and a friend of mine, worried that her brother had joined a cult, said, would you meet with him?
00:05:02.000I'd known him for 12 years, and frankly, he'd always been kind of a jerk.
00:05:06.000But he had really turned his life around, despite the fact that he left his career, left his relationship to move to Washington and be of service to powerful people.
00:05:16.000And he said, look, you won't understand it unless you see it.
00:05:18.000And you can't get in unless you're invited.
00:05:25.000So I found it interesting to me, not as a believer, but just as a person who is interested about the variety of the religious experience, you might say.
00:05:34.000So I went down and spent about a month living with these guys.
00:05:38.000And I didn't know it was political at first, but then we had a visit from Senator Jesse Helms.
00:05:44.000Well wait a minute, I mean this doesn't sound, and I'm not defending the group because I don't even know enough about it to even get its name right, but C Street, the family, C Street's the name, and obviously the house.
00:05:57.000If it's such a cult, and I do agree it looks pretty culty, why did they just let you right in then?
00:06:03.000You know, first of all, I actually say that they are not a cult.
00:06:06.000I don't think they are cultish, but not a cult.
00:06:08.000You know, because a cult has certain characteristics.
00:06:23.000So because I was invited by this guy, that made me sort of okay.
00:06:28.000And I think they were actually interested in the fact uh... that i'm a journal the writer because they saw me as an influence as someone who in uh... help spread the message so they but i had me into the house i've ever really wrote about the carper magazine if anyone's been out there being skeptical that all went through fact checking legal review never been disputed lived with these guys for a month okay but i mean they're pretty confident then about the way they operate the way they work to let a prominent journalist into their midst i wouldn't say i was prominent at that point
00:06:58.000You know, they've been around for 70 years.
00:07:15.000I mean, uh, you know, there's a cult of personality around this guy Doug Coe, whom they sometimes call First Brother.
00:07:21.000They say he has a special relationship with God, unparalleled by anyone else in the world.
00:07:25.000Uh, and that, uh, also that the Inner Circle members, and here's where it gets really creepy when we're talking about Senator and Governor Sanford, guys linked to the group, The Inner Circle members are not bound by the same morality that applies to the rest of us.
00:07:39.000The morality is a human construct, and God has a different story ready for these powerful men.
00:07:46.000Now is this the same group that Ashcroft's part of?
00:07:48.000Because I saw articles like four or five years ago about, and did some research, about Ashcroft, part of a house he lived at, and other people that were members.
00:07:56.000I mean, is this the only group like this, or are you aware of others?
00:08:23.000John Ashcroft, I found letters dating back to the early 1980s.
00:08:27.000John Ashcroft was writing to the leader of the group, Doug Coe, for his brother, saying that he wanted to get involved and could he be helped.
00:08:34.000And that's what the family has done historically.
00:08:36.000They've identified guys that they think they can work with and then they groom them and sort of raise them up the political ladder.
00:08:43.000Doug Coe, the leader of the group, he likes to say, we work with power where we can, build new power where we can't.
00:08:49.000And that means that they've got a lot of political allies in Washington.
00:08:52.000Sounds like a political religious fraternity.
00:08:59.000Okay, well I know I'm throwing a lot of points in here because over the years I've done research here, there, but you forget a lot more than you, you know.
00:09:07.000Then you can actually comprehend, but I know there's all these weird secretive groups.
00:09:11.000Did you ever run into any connections in this group with Masons, Masonic groups, or with Opus Dei Catholic groups, or with the CNP, Council on National Policy?
00:09:26.000There's a lot of overlap with the CNP, guys like Ed Meese and various members like that.
00:09:32.000But one of the most interesting connections I did find was Opus Dei.
00:09:35.000And you might almost describe the family as kind of a Protestant Opus Dei, but they lack even the integrity of Opus Dei.
00:09:41.000But they originally were very interested in working in Spain, working around the world.
00:09:50.000The dictator for a long time, his name was Franco, and he was not interested in having any Protestant groups around.
00:09:56.000Uh, until they made contact with the ministers of government, Opus Dei members, and then started building up a network of alliances.
00:10:04.000From our research, I got to spend a lot of time with Senator Sam Roundback of Kansas, who has the unique distinction of being a member of the family and an associate of Opus Dei.
00:10:12.000He converted to a very strange kind of Catholicism through Opus Dei's chapel, which, appropriately enough, actually is on K Street in Washington.
00:10:22.000Okay, see, those are the questions I haven't seen asked on television.
00:10:24.000I've read your articles over the years and haven't read your book yet, though we just got it.
00:10:28.000And so I've got a piece here, a piece there, and I'm trying to delve more into the architecture of left-wing and right-wing groups.
00:10:36.000Did you ever run into any connections to Bohemian Grove?
00:10:39.000Because a lot of, quote, Christian conservatives that have these big public personas as Christian conservatives also go to the Grove that Richard Nixon described as a homosexual orgy.
00:10:51.000I don't know about that part, but Doug Coe certainly is a long-time, Doug Coe, the leader of the group, is a long-time attendee.
00:10:59.000And, you know, certainly we're talking about here, you know, guys like Ed Meese, former Attorney General Ashcroft, Senator Enst, and we're talking about the power elite.
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00:17:13.000You've written articles about how it's not really Christian, though, From not wanting to stop abortion and saying we like Machiavelli, I'm going from memory here, but a lot of weird stuff.
00:17:23.000Some type of strange intelligence front?
00:17:26.000Because just in a snapshot, that's what it looks like to me.
00:17:29.000You know, it goes back, it begins in 1935.
00:17:33.000They organize Abram Brady believes that he has a vision that God comes to him and speaks to him.
00:17:38.000Tells him that Christianity has been getting it wrong for 2,000 years and any focus on the poor, the weak, the suffering, the down and out, That's not right.
00:17:46.000What God wants him to be is a missionary to and for the powerful, the up-and-out, he calls them.
00:17:52.000He begins organizing guys like Henry Ford and a group of congressmen.
00:18:44.000But they didn't like it, or they didn't like Mussolini, so they said, well, we're going to do a totalitarianism for Christ, which is sort of missing the point of the Christian message, but that was their approach.
00:18:54.000And they started recruiting a lot of American fascist sympathizers, and over the years have, when they go and make alliances with foreign dictators, they look for guys who exemplify that model.
00:19:05.000Doug Coe, the leader of the group, He likes to say to Congress, who were the three men in the 20th century who best understood the message of the New Testament?
00:19:13.000And maybe you say something like Dietrich Bonhoeffer or Martin Luther King, or maybe you're more conservative than you say Billy Graham.
00:20:01.000Hold on, I mean, this is incredible, and you were there, this is published, it's in your book, and I'm familiar with the fake right-wing Chicago School of Business, all of this, Milton Friedman, you know, the same social...
00:21:00.000She's what they call a friend of the group, and they're very careful about those distinctions.
00:21:05.000She says of Doug Coe, this man I'll just quote in this language by Hillary now, she says he's a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide.
00:21:11.000She says she turned to him when she first came to Washington in 1994.
00:21:15.000Who am I talking about but none other than Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
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00:25:47.000But Maddow was making it a left-right thing, and about how these guys are all cheating on their wives, and how they're hypocrites.
00:25:53.000And I was like, I've read his articles and other articles about this group, how it's all Machiavellian, and the end justifies the means, and dictators, and strongmen, and I go, man, that fits into Chicago school, and the neocons, and, you know, this whole sick philosophy.
00:26:12.000That the Globalist is kind of used to get well-meaning men to do evil things.
00:26:17.000The higher-up psychopaths are using it as a control system, and it's one of many groups.
00:26:22.000But certainly, then as he made the connections to even more powerful organizations, and I guess there is something to this, you know, I don't get too obsessed on this group or that group.
00:26:32.000I've found if it's CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, Then it's every other group.
00:26:39.000The leadership of these groups are the leadership of all the other groups.
00:26:43.000And so it's kind of an interlocking directorate.
00:26:45.000But I'll be honest, now that I heard him roll with info I'd never heard him say on the shows because they always compartmentalize it.
00:26:53.000It made all these connections because You've got other secretive right-wing groups, like the CMP, and I've had guests on over the years that mention that.
00:27:03.000I thought of it more as a right-wing think tank that were globalists, but it also had some anti-globalists in it, like the Hunt brothers, so that confused me.
00:27:12.000And I don't think anything's the top of the pyramid.
00:27:14.000I think at the top of the pyramid it's all these groups nexusing in.
00:27:18.000But then I didn't know there was an Opus Dei connection.
00:27:22.000He said yes and listened to the names.
00:27:25.000And then a Pentagon connection with the head of national security, which really is the real shadow government, James L. Jones, and the Chicago school, and the neocons.
00:27:59.000Run through it all, give us the key information here, and bottom line, just from knowing what I know about separate groups that nexus in, this does sound pretty sinister.
00:28:12.000Yeah, I'm glad you're saying this, Alex, and I think you're exactly right.
00:28:15.000We never want to make the mistake of saying there's one group that controls it all.
00:28:18.000There's multiple power bases, and the point I'm trying to make here is that the family is one of the most influential power bases, and yet it hasn't been measured.
00:28:27.000A sociologist, conservative sociologist, actually, as it happens down there in Texas at Rice University, did a survey of 360 politicians in Washington asking them to name the religious group that is most influential.
00:28:47.000That was more votes than James Dawson's focus on the family, more than any other group.
00:28:51.000They named the family, and what's crazy about this is the family denies that they exist.
00:28:55.000If you call up the leader of the group, as I had NBC News do last year where I did a segment with them, and they said, oh, no, there's nothing to see here.
00:29:18.000Again, I'll just repeat that saying that they have, we work with power where we can, build new power where we can't.
00:29:23.000What that means is, Unlike some right-wing groups that are just sort of extensions of the Republican Party, the family wants connections to Democrats as well.
00:29:33.000One is Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas, a pro-war Democrat from Arkansas.
00:31:20.000Well, I mean, you know, that's what, you know, when I said the bottom line of the American empire, and that's what led them into alliances, you know, we were talking before the break about their role in sort of whitewashing the records of former Nazis.
00:31:34.000One was a guy named Hermann J. Abt, who was vice president of the German operation after the war, became known as the Wizard of the West German Miracle.
00:31:42.000Oh my, so we have a Nazi connection with money coming over?
00:31:45.000that before he was Germany's banker, he was the man known as Hitler's banker.
00:31:49.000He, in fact, had helped spirit away untold amounts of German money to the Nazis to escape to South America.
00:32:06.000The head of their Swiss operation after the war was a banker named Alfred Herz, who used the family and its access to American politicians to come over and lobby for America to lay off all the money that, of course, they had stolen.
00:32:21.000from the Swiss banks that's stolen from the Jews who had been killed, and the so-called Nazi gold.
00:32:27.000We forget that there were actually early attempts to investigate that stuff, and Alfred Herz, working through congressmen like Senator Alexander Wiley from Wisconsin and others, was able to lobby successfully using this group's network.
00:33:03.000Specifically, let's get more into that history, but can you backtrack?
00:33:06.000Because I read your articles years ago, and Harper's and Rolling Stone.
00:33:10.000Because I remember just reading this and then going and Googling some of it and finding that, you know, you were telling the truth because it was so shocking.
00:33:17.000about their philosophy and we don't care about abortion we want Jesus wants power we don't care about you know this and that we like Machiavelli I mean this sounds like a psycho cult masquerading as Christians Well, let me give you a quote.
00:33:34.000This is from the news, and we had in that lead-in, we had Congressman Todd Fiore talking about abortion.
00:33:39.000It's not that they don't care about those issues.
00:33:41.000The group tends to be pretty right-wing conservative, so they care.
00:35:20.000But again, when you're saying all of this, I'm thinking about the Straussian economists and philosophers.
00:35:28.000I'm thinking about the Chicago school, the Rockefellers.
00:35:32.000The Rockefellers similarly funded other schools of thought.
00:35:35.000Do you ever run into Rockefeller foundations or Rockefeller money in all this?
00:35:40.000Rockefeller, and there may be more, but in the early days of the family, you know, the Rockefeller Foundation, of course, has gone through a lot of different incarnations, you know.
00:35:48.000At one point it was essentially almost a fund for CIA money, and that's been documented pretty well.
00:35:56.000Yeah, in the early days they were indeed giving the family, which was then known as International Christian Leadership, they changed their name every few years, they say, to avoid scrutiny, basically.
00:36:09.000But he gave some money to them to get started.
00:36:12.000I mean, you really see all the titans of American commerce.
00:36:15.000Well, you always have the Rockefellers.
00:36:16.000I mean, discovering cancer viruses, Rockefellers, setting up them.
00:36:20.000I mean, the whole system was set up by these people.
00:37:25.000But the more, even one of the odder responses was a phone call I get from one day from a guy who's an executive for the oil company Pride Former, a very big international company involved in this stuff.
00:38:10.000That's what this whole power trip's about.
00:38:12.000Yeah, you know, it was very well put to me by... I did an interview with someone from the Cato Institute, which is a very conservative think tank in Washington, and they really believe in free markets, and so I thought they weren't going to like the book, but they looked at it and said, these guys aren't talking about free markets.
00:38:37.000That's what Senator Anson, who we've been hearing about, Governor Stanford, those guys, Senator Coburn, they get together in a prayer cell.
00:38:47.000One man will say, you know, I have a message from Jesus.
00:38:49.000I think Jesus gave me a message for you.
00:38:51.000And in the case of Senator Anson and Coburn, the message seemed to be pay your minister some hush money to keep yourself out of the public eye.
00:39:00.000You know, the one thing that's really important about that whole scandal that you mentioned talking about on Maddow and so on, and folks on the sex scandal of the Republicans, the more important thing is that I don't care about their sex scandal.
00:39:19.000I mean, this story's been around for a while, and I'm not... Every now and then, someone makes an attempt.
00:39:23.000The Los Angeles Times did a year-long investigation in 2002, published their results, incredible stuff, linking the family to Central American death squads, all kinds of stuff.
00:39:33.000Expected, you know, waited for the Pulitzer, the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter did it.
00:39:38.000Last year I did a segment with NBC Nightly News with Andrea Mitchell hosting and we had Hillary Clinton talking about her involvement.
00:39:45.000We had video of Doug Coe talking about the great leadership example of the fellowship that he tries to promote is like that one enjoyed by Hitler, Himmler, and Goering.
00:39:55.000And, you know, NBC thought they had the scoop of the campaign season, not a peep.
00:40:00.000Because our American political press, they're religiously illiterate, they don't know the questions to ask.
00:40:46.000They say, look, here's what Hitler did.
00:40:48.000Hitler got together with a little group of friends in the back of a Bavarian beer hall, and working together, just like you guys are going to work together, whether it's Senator Anson and Senator Coburn, or two younger guys in the group, just like you work together, look what they were able to do.
00:41:02.000They were able to take over the world.
00:41:09.000Well Hitler also, this is mainline history, was hired by German intelligence to set that group up to monitor people and then it got some British funding later from the King of England, Edward VIII, and so Hitler didn't just pop up out of a cabbage patch.
00:41:26.000Well, the important thing to recognize with these guys is that they're all sort of power-hungry political opportunists, and I think that's what you get with the family.
00:41:35.000You know, the thing about it is, look, a lot of the young guys I live with, even some of the congressmen I've spoken to, they get involved with the best of intentions.
00:41:44.000I'll even say that of Senator Brownback.
00:41:45.000Yeah, that's like congressmen going to, uh...
00:41:51.000The head of the Washington Times, Mr. Moon, a total cult, and they said, we didn't know that this was going to be a crowning ceremony as him as the Messiah.
00:42:01.000There they are, embarrassed, gulping as crowns are being put on his head.
00:42:05.000How does that individual tie into all this?
00:42:08.000You know, there's a big overlap there, but that's yet again a distinct power base.
00:42:14.000But there is that overlap, and that example that you give, we didn't know.
00:42:57.000We're going to come right back and continue with other key points.
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00:47:02.000And there's nothing Christian about John Ashcroft and his Patriot Act and the rest of it.
00:47:06.000There's nothing liberal about Barack Obama hiring nothing but K Street Boys now and swearing he never would.
00:47:13.000But I want to come back in this final five-minute segment in a few minutes to take two or three calls.
00:47:17.000But first, in the four or five minutes we have left in this segment, other key points you haven't told us about as you're giving us the dirt on these individuals.
00:47:27.000Well, you know, I think really the biggest point that we want to look at is how the family is acting like a lobby.
00:47:34.000They're not registered as a lobby, but they're paying for travel for congressmen to go overseas.
00:47:39.000Senator Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma went on at least 20 missionary trips to Africa, who paid for it.
00:47:47.000In that case, he actually finagled it.
00:47:49.000He says he went on behalf of the family, promoting the political philosophy of Jesus as taught to him by Doug Cogan.
00:47:54.000So it's a tax-exempt lobby on top of it?
00:48:07.000The State Department didn't want him to meet with him, went there.
00:48:10.000He got Senator Coburn to go into Lebanon.
00:48:12.000This is a country that's had civil war between Christians and Muslims for a long, long time.
00:48:16.000They do not need this kind of interference.
00:48:18.000Senator Coburn went there and he said, you know what?
00:48:21.000On his official form, paid for by the family by one of their foundations, the International Foundation, he says, I'm going to set up confidential Christian prayer cells in the Lebanese government, just like the one he used to help cover up the political affairs of Senator Enson.
00:48:36.000So this group is doing this stuff and when we dig into their own history, we dig into their own archives, we don't have to accuse them or make any wild-eyed, you know, claims and so on, we see an absolutely bloody history.
00:48:47.000And how are you getting into their archives?
00:48:48.000They dump 600 boxes of unorganized papers in the Billy Graham Center Archives and And I went there, I was one of the very first people to start poking around, and we're talking about budgets, memos, formal correspondence, even confidential government documents, a lot of stuff on Congressional... Why is it at the Billy Graham Center?
00:49:17.000But Billy Graham did help them set up this annual ritual, which has become sort of an annual lobbying festival called the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington.
00:49:44.000And by Jesus, of course, you just have to remember, they're not talking about anything you ever learned in Sunday school.
00:49:51.000They're talking about the idea of American empire.
00:49:53.000They're talking about the idea... They're talking about the Hitler Jesus.
00:49:58.000The Jesus of strength and power, rather than the one of love and forgiveness, yes.
00:50:04.000Well, look, obviously intelligence agencies love to use missionaries in groups like this, and as you said, the Rockefellers are deeply involved in that.
00:50:15.000So this is obviously just one more powerful group in all of this and I would imagine you would say even some of the people involved are doing so they believe for good reasons.
00:50:24.000I think that's what it's for is to co-opt well-meaning Christian men to kind of warp their sense for the end justifies the means to then go carry out really bad stuff.
00:50:36.000But we'll get your take on that in 70 seconds and take a couple phone calls.
00:52:45.000Those are all compartmentalized and buried.
00:52:48.000But at the top, the superclass that Rothkopf talked about, the head of the Kissinger Group on this show, it's just 6,000 global controllers that are the heads of all these groups, and then they manage the whole planet through that system.
00:53:00.000And that's the message that I try to get out most importantly.
00:53:04.000Brian in Iowa, you're on the air with the author of this new book.
00:53:13.000As a quick comment, I'd just like to say, Alex, at first, that it's interesting that yesterday you had Robert Gibbs on, and then today you've got all the rags like Greek Bird, AP, Drudge, USA Today coming out with articles going against everything that you guys talked about yesterday.
00:54:15.000Yes, I was aware of the connections to the uh... of Hillary Clinton and James Jones to uh... this uh... this organization and uh... interestingly I saw a very critical expose of that on the World Socialist website some uh... many months ago maybe a year ago so I think what we're seeing here and incidentally I hope you have somebody on from the Black Agenda Report blackagendareport.com because this is one black organization very erudite
00:54:42.000That completely blows the pretense that Obama cares about black, whites, or anybody else.
00:54:48.000And I remember Webster Tarpley commending them about a week ago on his program.
00:54:53.000So I think this would be a very good antidote to those... Okay, set up the Black Agenda Report.
00:54:58.000John, do you have a question for our guests?
00:55:00.000We've got about a minute and a half left here.
00:55:03.000Now, you mentioned that the free market, fundamentalism, imperialism, war, and empire are really what they're about.
00:55:11.000And if you look at people like James Jones and his connections to the Council on Foreign Relations and Hillary's connections to the Council on Foreign Relations, you see that these people are not liberals, they're not socialists.
00:55:26.000They are operatives of the same fake liberal organizations that are used in disguise for these really fundamentally reactionary organizations.
00:55:36.000Let me get a comment from him on that.
00:55:38.000Your take on what John from Ohio was just saying, Mr. Sharma?
00:55:42.000I think John gives us the one good point, which is that a lot of the powerful folks involved in this, we want to not be distracted by those labels like liberals and conservatives.
00:55:50.000Rather, I think we want to look at how are they serving this project of American empire versus American democracy.
00:56:41.000The big banks, the offshore corporations do.
00:56:44.000Stop thinking you're part of the power structure.
00:56:46.000Well, Jeff Charlotte, I appreciate you coming on about the book, the family, and as things unfold, I look forward to have you back on the show soon.
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01:00:31.000I have friends and family and other talk show hosts all over the country saying people are here and they're going to be forced to take a shot and they're upset and saying, how do I not take it?
01:01:28.000I've actually been listening to your radio show for about seven years.
01:01:30.000I'm a member of Prison Planet TV and I actually got into it when I first started listening to you.
01:01:36.000I kind of got thrown off because you have a very eccentric personality.
01:01:40.000And then, when I actually listened to one of your radio shows, you said, don't take my word for it, I challenge you, go and look for the information.
01:01:47.000Okay, go ahead and tell me what you're in for.
01:01:48.000Everything that you come up with, I go and I do a research on it, and for the first, like, four or five years, everything that you've come up with, I've always been able to verify through everything.
01:01:58.000I've only had one thing that I've never been able to, that you've mentioned on your show, that I've actually found the exact opposite.
01:02:06.000You haven't had two individuals by the name of Robert Menard or John Harris on.
01:02:12.000There actually, there's a group in UK, part of the We Are Change group, a guy named Darren Pillard.
01:02:22.000What they've done is they've told the government they don't consent to anything.
01:02:27.000They're removing themselves from the entire government.
01:02:30.000And you've brought up the stuff about straw men and stuff before.
01:02:33.000Well, these guys have actually gone to court, right up against the people, fronted out or showed them their actual... Sir, let's just stop right there.
01:02:50.000Most of my mistakes are, I called it K Street, the lobbyists, because I have an article about Obama getting rid of all lobbying rules worse than Bush.
01:02:57.000The lobbyists are openly writing all the policy and law.
01:03:35.000Yeah, you go into Black's Law, you can go into the case laws like, um, I've got a case law reference here, Luther v. Borden, site 48, US 1, 1849.
01:03:48.000Listen, listen, I told you one minute apiece and I appreciate your call.
01:04:43.000All I'm saying is there's such a minefield of disinfo and false law out there.
01:04:49.000Certainly the government creates a straw man and gets you to waive rights through contract and it's a lie to say you gotta take vaccines and I hear lawyers on air saying Admiralty only deals with ships.
01:05:00.000No, I've seen federal courts declare Admiralty stealing people's property in the US.
01:05:04.000So there's kernels of truth to all this.
01:05:07.000I just don't get up here and push people into all of these theories about law and ideas when they don't even know their Bill of Rights or Constitution.
01:05:16.000Now I know there's some freeman societies and groups that I've seen give some decent speeches in England explaining how the system works and telling the system I'm not going along with you.
01:05:28.000That is a human declaration as a free being and creature.
01:05:34.000Okay, so You don't understand the point I'm making and what I'm saying.
01:05:42.000I just see a lot of people claim they've won this case, or claim they've done this, or claim they've done that, and it's normally not true.
01:05:48.000I don't know about those groups you mentioned.
01:05:49.000I'm just saying, look out, there's a lot of bull out there.
01:05:53.000I don't steer my giant audience off into kind of patriot kook land, where there's all this imaginary baloney going on.
01:06:01.000I don't talk about chupacabras and space aliens.
01:06:19.000Watching the Chris Matthews video and other things like it where they're tying the birth certificate issue to things like 9-11 and Bilderberg.
01:06:30.000Yeah, they're saying Bilderberg doesn't exist and if you talk about it you need to go to a mental institution.
01:06:54.000Yeah, that's making me think that maybe he was actually born in Hawaii, but they're just holding that back and creating this fake controversy and tying it to all these other real things.
01:07:08.000And then when they get ready, they're going to... Yeah, you never know with a PSYOP.
01:07:11.000And I was thinking that in the shower this morning after I went for a jog.
01:07:14.000I'm going, wait a minute, they could be acting like, you know, they're upset with this to really hype it up and then disprove it later.
01:07:24.000If that's true, their body language, and it's hard to fake it, they look like they hate having to cover it, and they're actually scared of it.
01:07:32.000And let me tell you, they're scared of anything spontaneous.
01:07:48.000They're scared of town halls where spontaneously the town hall's not even about Obama and everybody's yelling and screaming about his birth certificate.
01:08:06.000Every waking moment, even when I dream, I'm thinking about this stuff.
01:08:11.000No, I genuinely think they tried to ignore it, and they're scared, and that makes me think it's probably true.
01:08:16.000And there's a lot of pieces that go into that, but regardless, it isn't good for Obama.
01:08:20.000And anything that stalls him is good, but if it isn't true that he was born in Kenya, I will try to come out and expose that.
01:08:27.000But my gut tells me that they're covering something up.
01:08:30.000I'm not sure what it is, but it's a very, very serious, big issue.
01:08:37.000But after Obama is defeated as a political demagogue, as long as that train stalls and he can't get his agenda through, then we've got to point out he's just a puppet and not make it about a new system where judo, where they use our action against him to put a new right-wing puppet in.
01:08:53.000You see, we've got to stop that left-right dynamo.
01:09:00.000Yeah, I just think, you know, if he actually was, and when they got ready they brought that out and showed that it was true, it would discredit all the other 9-11 and the Fed and Bilderberg that they've been tying that to, and all the people that have been talking about it would be all discredited.
01:09:17.000Yeah, no, see, sir, but we can hypothetically think of anything all day.
01:09:21.000The system, and I appreciate your call, is discredited.
01:10:42.000I wanted to let you know that my best friend, he's got a family friend who works at Raytheon in Tampa.
01:10:49.000And, uh, he said he works at the receiving, uh, and shipping area throughout the entire building.
01:10:55.000He receives everything that comes in, every order that gets put in.
01:10:59.000He said that they had a huge order for, like, 500,000 riot gear suits, and he said that in the whole time that he's been working there for, like, 20-something years, he said he's never seen nothing like it.
01:11:10.000Well, that's not just your buddy at Raytheon, because we can't confirm that, but I believe you.
01:11:15.000They've ordered body bags and riot gear, and have tried to train the main army force for a riot, and are having military drills everywhere to condition everybody, and saying... I mean, again, they destroy the economy, that causes riots, then that sets the precedent for the police state.
01:11:39.000He just said that they had ordered Riot Gear suits and he had never seen anything like it.
01:11:43.000It was a huge order and he was basically telling everybody he knew and he told my best friend, who is a relative of his, and he said that, I mean, he don't listen to your show, he doesn't even have a computer, but he was scared and he would tell me about it and I said, well, that's what Alex Jones has been talking about.
01:12:44.000three four zero seventy ninety one that's one eight hundred three four zero seventy ninety one or log on to five star soap dot com now for a free cat again that number one eight hundred three four zero seventy ninety one five star soap dot com for all your cleaning needs In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.
01:13:08.000We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.
01:13:13.000The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
01:13:22.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:13:24.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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01:14:19.000How is it that we the people grow the cotton, weave it into fabric, engrave the ink, embed the strips and fibers that protect it from counterfeit, then cart the money off to a privately owned bank to have it lent back to us at interest, forcing us to pay taxes to service the debt?
01:14:35.000Or was Jefferson correct when he said, a central bank issuing a public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
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01:17:34.000And do you think Just like with before 9-11, do you think, I mean, if you're spidey-sense up with this one, could this be, and the swine flu, be the actual, them actually going for it all this time?
01:18:01.000And there's so many great callers I want to get on that have important tips and info to cover, plus I'm a loud mouth, blowhard, you know, and I need to shut up.
01:18:10.000Yes, my Spidey Sense is off the chart.
01:18:14.000That's just the Feds testing the total takeover with foreign troops.
01:18:19.000That intellectually and historically is off the charts, very upsetting.
01:18:24.000But the way they're hyping this flu that's super weak, that's clearly man-made though, And digging the mass graves and getting ready, I said that back in March, even before April, and now they're saying get ready for forced inoculations and setting up emergency tents and troops, even in Austin at Camp Mabry.
01:18:41.000I went over there a few days ago and confirmed that.
01:18:43.000I mean, this is, this, they're getting ready for something big as a political cover for the banking takeover and the water takeover and the carbon tax takeover and the hate speech takeover and the, just all of it's happening right now.
01:18:58.000Yes, my Spidey Sense is off the charts upset.
01:19:03.000And we've all got a sixth sense, but mine is intellectual and also in my gut, and it's off the chart right now.
01:19:09.000And everybody else is freaking out, saying, I'm worried, I don't want to take the shot, something's going on, I'm worried.
01:19:15.000And they're getting ready to make a move.
01:19:16.000Obama's approval rating's dropping, the establishment needed him to get their agenda through, and they're going to stage something, get ready.
01:19:32.000That means a website and cover design and finish the film and it's just insane and it's so good and I'm up here every night till one in the morning that I've really cut back on doing interviews almost down to nothing.
01:20:14.000I've heard you mention this on several shows and I have one thing I disagree with you on.
01:20:18.000You said the Rockefellers discovered the cancer virus and from my research I found out there was an inventor named Royal Reif who discovered the cancer virus using his high-end optics and actually the Rockefellers stole those ideas from the inventor himself.
01:20:37.000Yeah, I mean, that's how many angels can dance to the head of a pen.
01:20:41.000I've heard the recordings of Reif sitting there drinking scotch, claiming that he invented the sun, almost.
01:20:48.000And I'm not saying he probably didn't invent some interesting things, but he also, I've seen film of him with big so-called projectors to do stuff with flying saucers.
01:20:58.000So, I don't just accept what the government says, and the media says, and I don't accept what Royal Raymond Reif and everybody else says.
01:21:08.000I'm saying the Rockefeller Foundation, in this research I did from declassified university studies, they, in the 20s, funded the research.
01:21:21.000Discovered that most cancer was viral, and then they started vaccine programs and cancer research and treatment facilities, putting it in the vaccines, and then they make the money off of you when you die from the cancer.
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01:24:59.000Yeah, on the Royal Raymond Rife stuff, there might have been some truth to that, but I mean, if I have one more kook show at my office with a glass ray gun with some flashing if I have one more kook show at my office with a glass ray gun with some flashing light in I mean it makes me sick.
01:25:25.000And this is part of magical thinking and Harry Potter delusion.
01:25:30.000Now are there all sorts of magnetic and scalar technology in real systems?
01:26:14.000You know, when I tell you about NLE 09 and troops from 14 countries here training for martial law, FEMA says that, but in their own spin.
01:26:24.000Oh, they're here to help us with a simulated terror attack on the homeland by domestic terrorists, and they're going to also help us spy on the American people, you know, run surveillance.
01:26:34.000I mean, it's total federalization drill with foreign troops, and nobody cares about that.
01:26:39.000It's all Obama and race relations or O.J.
01:26:45.000Simpson or Michael Jackson, they love issues with black people.
01:26:49.000Then they can make it all about black and white.
01:27:19.000I'm going to stick to the format, L-N-E-O-O-9.
01:27:25.000I live in Lansing, 10 miles west of us is a major helicopter hub for Army, whatever.
01:27:35.000In Grand Ledge and there's just been a ton of activity the past week in that direction.
01:27:42.000Oh yeah, there's activity everywhere as they simulate, mainly taking over cities, as the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 97 states, that now Homeland Security and Brigade Homeland, NORTHCOM, main job is to suppress governors and legislatures.
01:28:21.000So, those are the two tidbits that I've got.
01:28:25.000Well, first to go, last to know, they're admitting that they're trying to train large portions of the regular army force for the last three years, NMP, military police, search and cordon, and they're doing drills from Missouri to California in the newspaper.
01:28:40.000I showed it yesterday, of fighting American gun owners.
01:29:04.000I'm just here pointing out the insanity taking place.
01:29:07.00023.7 trills stolen, they've sucked us dry, they plan to fully implode the economy, and then they're running all these Deceptive headlines like home prices index up for first time in three years.
01:29:22.000And then what it says is the decline slowed because it's bottoming out.
01:31:21.000And I want to use that report as a backdrop for a news report that came in today.
01:31:29.000Now, we went back into the TARP history here.
01:31:31.000We know the first intent that Congress had, purchase toxic assets, which were mortgage-backed securities.
01:31:37.000We were told, keep people in their homes.
01:31:39.000Well, administration threw that out the door, last administration.
01:31:42.000Then, we were told, we're going to switch the TARP funds to help bail out the banks, direct capital infusion.
01:31:51.000But I think something else has happened here and I want to make sure it doesn't escape this committee and I hope that you can tell me it hasn't escaped your notice.
01:32:00.000We're now seeing that we have another switch that's occurred.
01:32:03.000That we actually have the Fed paying banks not to use their, quote, excess capital to make loans.
01:32:11.000I direct your attention to a news report today, which says that banks' excess reserves at the Fed rose to a record $877.1 billion daily average in the two weeks ended May 20th.
01:32:33.000And I can give you all the mainstream news articles on it, or you can go to StartPage.com, a search engine, and punch it in and find it all right there.
01:32:42.000Just Google, Federal Reserve paying banks not to loan.
01:32:45.000Yeah, Federal Reserve paying its own banks.
01:32:49.000The Federal Reserve is a holding front company for private banks.
01:32:53.000Now, I told you this back in October, because they've done this in the third world all over and over again.
01:32:59.000They plunge the economy, get a bailout, hoard the money, till everything implodes, then they're going to dump the money on the market, buying everything up, while it still has value, then it's devalued once the money finally gets in your hands in the economy.
01:33:17.000Because their argument is, this money can only be at institutional level, it can't hit the street, or it'll cause inflation.
01:33:55.000It's like New Jersey, where hundreds of government officials are selling organs, and stealing money from things, and mayors, and the whole country's like this!
01:34:03.000I mean, I just... I mean, it's just... And then Kucinich and Ron Paul get attacked by the media.
01:34:08.000They're the bad guys, because they're talking... There's the bad man, right there!
01:34:30.000Is the hype about the United States Corporation Act of 1871 a bunch of bull?
01:34:39.000Specifically, I have to pull that up, but a lot of that is true, some of it isn't.
01:34:45.000They also say things like, you know, this company or that company or this government agency is really a private corporation and They operate as private corporations, but they have one foot in government, one foot out of government.
01:35:00.000But it is true the District of Columbia does operate as a corporation.
01:35:05.000but it has feet in both the republic and in the country and in its own corporate system does that answer your question Is there two governments?
01:35:24.000Well, there's more than two governments.
01:35:25.000I mean, you now have the private bureaucracies that openly tie into private corporations that are now the real government, and they operate under continuity of government laws and through the National Security Council.
01:36:07.000Well no, they admit that some states, 76% are on drugs.
01:36:12.000On average, 68% of children they grab, they put on 7 drugs on average.
01:36:17.000And there's been doctors in the news in Texas, WAI-TV did a great report, you can Google it.
01:36:22.000Foster kids on drugs and he said he saw kids healthy and happy five-year-olds they'd taken that were in wheelchairs two years later the drug I mean one kid they put on 18 drugs because the CPS and the foster families get more money the more drugs and the more health problems your kids got and they use them to test pesticides on them New York Daily News I preach in fact Google foster children pesticides tested on foster children And you'll see, all over the country.
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01:40:24.000He was one of the planners, and I see him all the time, and I was like, hey, you know, you had special forces in the rear firing on the people.
01:40:34.000Well, that's in the Congress's own report that Delta Force was there shooting the people.
01:40:39.000And then there's the flare footage of them shooting the people.
01:40:41.000And the news said those troops with rifles and those flashes, that is an anomaly.
01:40:46.000And you see the guns with the Christmas tree flash on video.
01:40:51.000But because it's black and white, they said, well... That'd be like if you had an elephant in your room and they said, that's not an elephant.
01:40:59.000You're like, well, he's got a trunk and ears and looks like he pooped on the floor right there.
01:41:03.000And they're like, nope, there's no elephant.
01:41:05.000You know, I mean, it's troops shooting the Davidians on video, the flare footage.
01:41:09.000And they go, no, that's not what it is.
01:44:23.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:44:26.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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01:46:59.000I always get distracted because I've got a TV on with the Infowars cover page and all the new headlines Kurt's adding.
01:47:04.000It just keeps freaking me out looking across.
01:47:06.000NGOs suggest elderly should be the first to go in the pandemic and not be given treatment.
01:47:13.000See, they're training us all to love eugenics.
01:49:21.000Actually, I was calling the Lars Larson Show.
01:49:23.000I want to speak with a congressman, but I'm going to put this out for everybody because I think some of the questions should always be asked of every congressman and every senator.
01:49:33.000Are they going to be joining the same medical coverage and programs that we will?
01:49:41.000No, they have their own special medical coverage.
01:49:44.000They're just going to start fining everybody to get worthless insurance where they're going to give you an aspirin for a heart attack like the Soviet Union.
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