Bob and Mark join Alex on the show to talk about the dangers of the flu and how to fight back against the government. Alex also talks about how to spread the word about the new vaccine, the flu, and how you can stop the spread of the virus.
00:00:00.000Thank you, and I'll see you next week.
00:00:02.000Folks, I didn't even get to sheriff teacher jailed for drug conspiracy.
00:00:06.000Operation Carlitos Way targeted cross-border smuggling of cocaine and marijuana.
00:00:10.000That's right, our heroes in the Sheriff Department of Texas and of the school system dealing drugs just like the shadow government did in the 80s and continues to do today.
00:00:19.000Hey, if it's good enough for them, why not our local officials?
00:02:07.000Good. Um, Alex, a massive post-pandemic Yes,
00:02:32.000think would also be powerful as well as an expedited production and release of a video by yourself, perhaps titled The Vaccination Dispatch.
00:02:46.000There is a section in the new film about the vaccine.
00:02:51.000It's just, it's coming out right in October, and they may back off by then, so I need to make it just about how they use overall vaccine systems.
00:02:58.000But going back to Bob Chapman, Bob, is it just the idea of lots of posters lets people get the idea that other people are upset?
00:03:05.000It's harder to go form groups out of Out of this, you can form groups.
00:03:12.000And also, you have existing groups that you would introduce these posters to and say, look, if you're going to do this, you've got to do that, too.
00:03:20.000Because they're going to disagree with the vaccination process.
00:03:24.000So you would get a hold of those groups and introduce them to posters and say, put them up everywhere.
00:04:29.000I was going to take a picture of this huge Obama poster that the local IT slash, you know, all-in-one store guy had up there at the gun show.
00:05:07.000He said, well, we're afraid to be political, because the mayor of the town here in Brooklyn, Nebraska might kick us out of the municipal building.
00:05:15.000And exactly, that's how this tyranny works.
00:05:17.000First they tell churches they can't, now they're telling, and then everybody's just, in fact, that's what the local paper in Austin.
00:05:37.000and you know what you do is you tell them and take a hike so that's what well that's what i was saying and i really need a man i said well okay well your ancestors must have been tories or something i said you know maybe they
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00:09:52.000He's done some research and when you start rationing health care, and it looks as if that couldn't happen I mean if you got 50 million more people in the system and a certain number of doctors people are gonna be in line you're gonna have to determine who gets the next treatment is Unfairly the elderly are the ones who are gonna get shortchanged.
00:10:11.000It's a form of eugenics And that's why we've got him on with us I continually hear him point out how they want to put troops on the streets Have the inoculations, martial law, now Ron Paul is talking about it, former Congressman Dick Armey saying they may use this as a pretext to get their healthcare ram through this flu hype that they've got going.
00:10:33.000So joining us for one segment, and then we've got Congressman Ron Paul coming up, is, of course, Dr.
00:10:41.000And I certainly agree with a lot of the information he covers and also meshes with some of the other medical doctors and virologists and epidemiologists that we have on.
00:11:10.000You can watch the House of Commons on C-SPAN and see them admitting it.
00:11:14.000I mean, as a doctor, give us your snapshot of this program, where you see it going, and why you're saying it borders on eugenics.
00:11:21.000Well, I think the big issue here is that it starts in the wrong place.
00:11:26.000I'm getting more and more disturbed about it now that we're seeing these religious references and everyone that doesn't agree with President Obama is somehow bearing false witness.
00:12:28.000I mean, how can they implement something if they can't even read what was written by special interest A, and then B, going back and backing you up?
00:12:36.000We have them all over the news now as a mantra saying, you can't even call it socialism, or you're a racist, using the N-word.
00:12:44.000They are weaponizing politics, terrorizing the public, and invoking racism.
00:13:14.000They own an automobile, and they know if they bring their automobile in with a scratch, their rates are going to go up.
00:13:20.000And if they try to bring their automobile in with a scratch too much, they're going to find out there are no repair shops around taking their insurance.
00:13:27.000That's something we've lost sight of with health insurance.
00:14:05.000We're not cutting benefits to patients.
00:14:07.000We're only cutting benefits to the poor guy in a Medicaid clinic who's already doing cataract surgery for free and saw his reimbursements cut down from 1,700 to 500 and, you know, and has to file the paperwork with Medicaid before he can get a penny.
00:14:23.000He can't even then afford the medical malpractice insurance.
00:14:27.000People aren't living in the real world that don't live and work as a physician like you do.
00:14:32.000And I think you point out the whole debates of fraud.
00:14:34.000Back before we had medical insurance, we even had better access to health care.
00:14:39.000It becomes just this bigger and bigger fraud, this bigger You know, People ask me all the time, why aren't doctors fighting?
00:14:56.000I'll give you a couple of answers for that.
00:14:58.000Number one, you're not going to believe, which is they're too busy taking care of patients.
00:15:01.000Number two is most doctors realize that they're being steamrolled and they don't feel that there's anything to do about it, so why waste their time?
00:15:09.000But there's going to be a rude awakening in a few years if this gets slammed down.
00:16:03.000That's like the government says they're going to put screen doors on submarines without consulting the engineer who designed the submarine.
00:18:26.000That's the only way doctors can practice and it's the only way healthcare can be delivered and it's what the United States wants.
00:18:33.000And they're phrasing it In the media and the government, like it's good, like you want the government taking tests away, you want the government giving you an aspirin for a heart attack, like Cuba.
00:19:31.000There's too many people in this, dealing with this, ramming this down our throats, who are not qualified to be looking at health care and health reform.
00:19:40.000They are qualified to steal 20% of the country's economy that's not under government control so they can give it to their fat cat buddies is now coming out.
00:19:55.000The Sunday Mail, the London Telegraph, German News reports, swine flu jab linked, a killer nerve disease.
00:20:01.000Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America in the test alone of a vaccine by Gillian Bernays and other deaths of neurological, it's switching on some autoimmune response, massive brain swelling.
00:20:17.000Doctor, your comments on this and the news saying three shots could mutate in the body.
00:20:23.000Well, look, I think it's a mild virus.
00:20:26.000I think that, as you hinted before I came on, we don't know how it's going to be hyped yet.
00:20:30.000We don't know what the administration's going to do to hype it.
00:20:32.000I think it's a mild virus, but I do think it's made its way around the world, and I think we have to pay particular attention to it.
00:20:38.000I don't think we can ignore it, but the hysteria is totally ridiculous.
00:20:41.000I think we need a vaccine to it, but the vaccine is problematic, because in 1976 we had what we thought was a swine flu epidemic, which was completely fabricated, it turned out, and we ended up with close to 1,000 cases of ascending paralysis as a result.
00:20:56.000That could happen again, but I don't want to use fear of the vaccine to replace fear of the virus.
00:21:17.000I'm aware of it, but I don't, but I don't know to the extent to which it's a problem versus 76. In other words, it remains to be seen how significant a side effect this is.
00:21:27.000Before I go and tell people, be afraid of this vaccine, I want to see more about what a risk this really is.
00:21:33.000They're keeping it secret, so shouldn't that be public?
00:21:36.000Shouldn't there be a big debate about this?
00:21:37.000There should be a big debate about this, but I'm telling you right now, I'm always on the side of the facts, and I want to close by saying I think the vaccine is going to be safe.
00:23:10.000He's fudged since day one of this election.
00:23:13.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
00:23:50.000Listeners of the network are familiar with the Federal Reserve Note and understand the risks of deficit spending.
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00:24:03.000A fractional reserve system means only a small portion of your deposit is held in reserve for immediate withdrawal.
00:24:09.000Deficit spending will skyrocket through FDIC if the government is forced to insure deposits during a bank run followed by a depressed economy.
00:24:16.000A current effort is underway by the Fed along with other central banks to increase liquidity for depositors.
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00:26:05.000I want to thank all the members that have made the show possible.
00:26:08.000I mean, how could that last doctor, who's a nice guy and it speaks out more than most against the system, calling it eugenics, Say, yeah, I know it's killing some people, but, you know, we've got to see if this is, I forget his exact quote, you know, an acceptable level of side effects.
00:26:27.000Because, you know, that's what they do, they triage.
00:26:29.000They say, well, if this vaccine saves 10,000 people, but it kills 1,000, you know, it's okay.
00:27:19.000I'm having to give orders right now because I've got a bunch of stuff coming up.
00:27:23.000My mind starts racing with all the different things we have to do.
00:27:25.000Make sure we go ahead and give the Fox News reporter that young man's phone number that put the posters up so they can get the facts straight in the Fox News story.
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00:30:38.000Every real economic indicator is we're dead meat.
00:30:40.000Meanwhile, the media is telling you the economy's great because it is for the big bankers and the billionaires and the people that control trillions.
00:30:47.000This is their big consolidation, their vertical integration.
00:30:50.000Because we're armed, they can't come in with a Soviet takeover right away, so they can economically rape us.
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00:35:59.000One of the favorite hangouts of the Clintons and Walter Cronkite and kind of the eastern establishment of the Eugenicist clan.
00:36:08.000And Cindy Sheehan, who lost her son, of course, in Iraq.
00:36:12.000Became a national icon standing up to Bush at the Crawford Ranch.
00:36:16.000Now, Obama's in the news saying, please give my family privacy.
00:36:19.000Oh, but his spy satellites and NSA phone tapping and his Blackwater thugs, they're not giving us any rest.
00:36:26.000And so, there's hardly any mainstream media, at least I searched it this morning, I saw some, about Cindy Sheehan, with all these other great peace activists, because again, it was trending and fun to protest Bush, knowing he wouldn't end the war for the establishment.
00:36:41.000But now that they're in power, like Rahm Emanuel said, you know, he campaigned against Democrats and ran the Democratic Party operation against Democrats that were actually against war.
00:36:51.000And the corporate guys tried to throw Dennis Kucinich out because he's actually a real liberal and against war, and a real progressive.
00:36:57.000So, Sidney Sheehan is out there shattering the left-right paradigm.
00:37:00.000We've been publishing at Infowars.com and PresidentPanda.com the articles and reports he's been putting out.
00:37:07.000They've got YouTube videos up, get her information out viral, and ask the media, why aren't you covering this?
00:37:13.000More troops are dying under Obama than under Bush.
00:37:39.000Thank you so much for helping to promote this protest and promote the fact that, you said, even though there's a change in regime, the only change in policy has been for the worst.
00:37:50.000And we just really need to reclaim our integrity and our morality in the anti-war movement to say that.
00:38:00.000The wars, we were right to say the wars were wrong under Bush, and we're still right to say they're still wrong under Obama.
00:38:06.000To me, it's a lack of media coverage, but it's also a lack of any kind of cooperation or solidarity that I'm not receiving from the establishment anti-war movement.
00:38:21.000That's because the Ford Foundation, as you know, and these other big money groups run and control the fake left.
00:38:30.000It's just, I mean, where is Amy Goodman?
00:38:36.000Tell us what's happening out there, how many people are out there, where you're located so other people can come join you, how long you're going to be there, what the Secret Service is doing.
00:38:46.000All I can say for the moment is that to get a list of events they can go to my blog or to your website and it's at cindysheehan.blogspot.com.
00:38:59.000The first event that we're going to have is organized Okay.
00:39:15.000writing people all over the world an international people's declaration of peace.
00:39:23.000And that's to start a grassroots movement because as I've said so many times the robber class doesn't want to change.
00:39:32.000You know, we can't force the robber class to change, especially if so many of our so-called opposition has been co-opted by the two-party system or whatever you want to call it.
00:40:17.000You know the media's already there because Obama's there.
00:40:20.000So what we have to do is you can call the media station at Oak Bluff Elementary School.
00:40:27.000That's where the press conference is going to be tomorrow at 11. We're having a large anti-war rally on Saturday of people who are in Massachusetts or around this area.
00:40:40.000can get to Martha's Vineyard, we will have a large vigil rally teaching against the war The island's fairly small and we're going to blanket the island.
00:40:52.000We have support from people on Martha's Vineyard who have offered us housing, offered us places to hang our banners, places to put signs, places to do our vigils.
00:41:02.000So we're going to be all over that island because we don't want Obama or the press or the anti-war movement to not know that we're there still protesting the wars like we were when Bush was president.
00:41:16.000What response are you starting to get?
00:41:18.000I mean, I do see you getting more attention than you were a few months ago.
00:41:21.000What are some of the positive responses you're getting from the anti-war community, or just the sanity community?
00:41:28.000And what responses are you getting that are negative?
00:41:32.000Well, it's interesting that the negative responses I'm getting are from people who would, I think, call themselves anti-war progressives, saying that I should give Obama Well, Alex, you know, four of our troops were killed yesterday in Afghanistan.
00:41:52.000I don't even know how many Afghans or Pakistanis were killed yesterday.
00:41:57.000Yeah, they're getting a long rest now.
00:42:02.000Exactly. So, why does he deserve a peaceful vacation?
00:42:05.000The world deserves a vacation from war and a vacation from body bags.
00:42:11.000And by the way, Cindy, we know what this war is about.
00:42:14.000I mean, I saw Admiral Mullen on CNN two nights ago making up stuff about why the opium has gone over 12 times what it was, I mean, since the liberation.
00:42:23.000And then BBC admits, oh, we guard the opium so the warlords don't get it.
00:42:27.000And then suddenly, heroin is all over the streets.
00:42:30.000They're there just like the Russians were there to get that smack.
00:42:34.000Right. Well, and then also there's the whole pipeline.
00:42:40.000to get the oil to Asia from the Middle East.
00:43:51.000Well Cindy this is very exciting and I'd like to get some updates from you again throughout the week here and maybe on Sunday on the Sunday show when it's all over kind of a recapping final event for people out there driving along in their cars or listening on shortwave or whatever or on satellite.
00:44:07.000Slowly give out the website address again.
00:44:19.000There's a schedule of time, dates, and places where we will be for sure that we know already.
00:44:27.000There, there's a place where people can donate to help us with expenses, and just a place where you can see the ideology or the philosophy of why we're out there.
00:45:37.000And again, we'll definitely at least check in with her Sunday in the aftermath of all of this.
00:45:41.000The media should be knocking her door down, but no.
00:45:46.000It's so trendy and fun to have Obama trying to start wars with the Russians and putting more troops into Afghanistan and wanting to go into Pakistan and predator drones and 100,000 plus troops still in Iraq and never leaving.
00:46:01.000I mean, it's an insult to my intelligence.
00:46:03.000It's an insult to your intelligence to have Have the media and the Iraqi government, under orders of the globalists, redraw their city maps where the Green Zone and other bases aren't part of the cities now.
00:46:19.000And then say, our troops have pulled out.
00:46:23.000I mean, this is a very cynical, cynical joke.
00:46:28.000And they did pull back in one respect.
00:46:30.000They pulled out the two-year-old surge.
00:46:33.000Took troops out of the fortresses and put them in machine gun nests and checkpoints kind of like community policing and Now they've pulled those out so It's amazing it's kind of like cutting somebody's leg off and saying oh, but I'm trying to fix it and giving them a band-aid I mean, it's too little too late.
00:46:59.000I want to keep going to your phone calls where dr. Eisenstein joins us I also want to get into Bernanke, being nominated for another term as private Federal Reserve Chairman.
00:47:09.000The rest of the board's appointed by them, but he's the little front man.
00:47:13.000Geithner's the former head of the New York Fed.
00:47:14.000That's the real powerhouse in the corporate structure.
00:47:41.000Well, it already is in the quadrillions.
00:47:42.000The total black hole of debt that we're dealing with, with the derivatives.
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00:50:04.000Last week, the head of the country's central bank loaded the idea of dumping the greenback as the world's reserve currency, replacing it with an international currency.
00:50:15.000Thousands of people gathered to hear Barack Obama deliver key foreign policy speech on his current European tour.
00:50:22.000His vision for America's place in a new world order.
00:50:25.000Returning vets could be a risk to our nation.
00:50:30.000We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.
00:50:36.000And one of the ways that will drive the change is through global governance.
00:50:41.000I think the New World Order is emerging.
00:50:43.000This is a hoax and a scam which is designed to transfer wealth and power from the private sector to the government sector and from the government of the United States to a world government.
00:50:54.000And those people who have been yelling, oh, the UN's going to take over global government.
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00:56:47.000Okay, we got Dr. Eisenstein coming up right after.
00:56:49.000I'm going to take calls in the next segment and with Dr. Eisenstein as well.
00:56:53.000I really want to try to take more of your calls, more on the show, because just so many great callers, so much intel, so much info.
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01:02:25.000So we don't get arrested by the thought police?
01:02:28.000Says they've portrayed the president as a new comic book series named as he plays on words with the popular horror franchise Resident Evil.
01:02:41.000And it's Obama with chainsaws as a superhero killing zombies.
01:02:45.000Yeah, it was okay to show him as Superman, to show him as Batman, But you don't show him as the Joker.
01:02:51.000Why, I need to be arrested for doing that.
01:03:13.000I happen to be listening to Dr. Tenpenny on with Nori, I think it was last week, and I'm just wondering, she hinted She's thinking it will not be a forced inoculation, but rather a de facto criminalization of refusing the inoculation.
01:03:36.000Yeah, you won't fly, you'll have to stay in your house, they'll arrest you, they won't let you go to work, and then in the future, you have to take all their other vaccines or you can't go to work.
01:03:46.000That's exactly how they're planning to do it.
01:03:48.000In fact, let's set Tenpenny back up for the show.
01:03:51.000She's learned a lot more now about this current flu situation.
01:03:54.000She's been picking up a lot of new data.
01:04:01.000So, you know, the thing that disturbs me about this is when she said that, Of course, last night I was listening to the replay of when you interviewed Ike.
01:04:12.000I think it was the last time you interviewed Ike.
01:04:14.000And he seems to, and other people who talk about the New World Order, seem to come back to, our best defense is to peacefully resist.
01:04:24.000The problem is, and it seems that nobody wants to talk about this, not Dr. Stan, not Ike, not anyone, they're not going to let you peacefully resist.
01:04:36.000That's why we don't offensively go out, because then they can cast us as the bad guy.
01:04:41.000When we defend ourselves, there's no way for them to demonize it.
01:04:45.000But we try to reach out to military and police.
01:04:47.000You've got police, the military, the nurses associations in Europe and the U.S. The majority of them, two weeks ago it was 35% of nurses say no.
01:04:58.000This week it was, last night I saw over 60% in New York State.
01:05:02.000Look, They're not going to get away with it, but they're going to come back over and over again with wanting to put things in our bodies because that's what the eugenicists are into.
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01:10:20.000Dr. Mayor Eisenstein is a graduate of the University of Illinois Medical School, the Medical College of Wisconsin, School of Public Health, and the John Marshall Law School.
01:10:28.000In his 33 years in medicine, he has practice, have cared for more than 75,000 patients, grandparents and children.
01:10:38.000He is board certified by the National Board of Medical Examiners, American Board of Public Health and Preventative Medicine.
01:10:45.000He's like a super doctor and a lawyer.
01:10:46.000And the American Board of Quality Assurance and Utilization Review Physicians.
01:10:52.000He is recipient of the Howard Fellowship.
01:10:54.000Health Professional Scholarship, University of Illinois School of Medicine Scholarship, and a member of the Illinois Bar.
01:11:00.000He is the author of Give Birth at Home with the Home Birth Advantage Safe Medicine, Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate, Unequivocally Dangerous Medical Hazards of HRT and Unlocking Nature's Pharmacy.
01:11:14.000His medical film is, which means in Latin, Above All, Do No Harm.
01:11:21.000They've gotten rid of the Hippocratic Oath, so that's good.
01:11:35.000Doc, I got you on about vaccines, and it's been too long, in like two years since I've had you on.
01:11:42.000There is so much to go into, but we were talking during the break.
01:11:46.000Please repeat the point you made when I was first talking to you.
01:11:50.000Let me tell you, Alex, it is a true report, a comment, you know.
01:11:54.000As I've been following this, you know, I've been blessed.
01:11:57.000I'm a student of the late Dr. Mendelsohn, so I knew that vaccines were dangerous, because he knew about that 35 years ago, and so most of my practice and none of my children have been vaccinated.
01:12:07.000But you were talking about eugenics, population control, that they have different stuff in the vaccines.
01:12:23.000I looked at Fox News yesterday online, and they talked about that the latest czar, Dr. John Holdren, who's a nasty, nasty person.
01:12:34.000I mean, and we're going to talk about him for a minute.
01:12:36.000You know, he wants to push this vaccine in September, you know, and he's the one who co-authored a book with Dr. Paul Ehrlich in the 70s about eugenics and everything.
01:12:48.000I mean, he's, you know, they openly said it, you know, and he's the one who wants to push this.
01:12:55.000So they talked about how 90,000 people are going to die.
01:13:24.000Well, here's the issue, and you're right.
01:13:27.000Actually, a lot of conspiracy theorists do start getting into the Earth is hollow and has space aliens in it, and Alex Jones is a reptoid, because all the mainline stuff has been admitted now, so it doesn't have that shock value.
01:13:41.000But no, I just go off the government documents.
01:14:20.000And I think the eugenicists, just like with Hitler, you know, Hitler was a popular guy in 1936, 37, 38. Time magazine, you know, great guy.
01:14:39.000I just have to add all the companies that 30% of doctors, that was the report out of England where they're about to do it, but said they will not administer or take this swine flu vaccine.
01:14:50.000But even more, 35% more said they weren't sure.
01:14:55.000Which means only about 25% said they would do it.
01:14:59.000Well, that's an F in every class I've been in.
01:15:01.000Boy, I've been in a lot of classes in my life.
01:15:04.000I think the public has gotten well informed.
01:16:38.000So they couldn't give the vaccine in September.
01:16:42.000And then the majority of the flu season is between September and the end of October.
01:16:47.000That's when the people get sick and die.
01:16:49.000After that, it tends to be milder no matter what.
01:16:52.000They've got 50 years of history of this.
01:16:55.000And so they realize that That when, this may be real, if they gave the vaccine in September, inoculated 300 million people in this country, and 100,000 people died, their whole vaccine program, with all the other childhood vaccines, could go down the drain.
01:17:10.000So they took the vaccine that they had, they put it in storage, they said we can't come out with it until the end of October.
01:17:16.000Now, John Haldren, Dr. John Haldren, not an MD, Not a medical doctor, but yet he's the director of the White House Office on Science and Technology Policy.
01:17:28.000And he said, no, it is so imperative that you have to water it down and give it in the middle of September.
01:17:35.000The drug companies now come back to him.
01:18:11.000the Washington Post, or I like to call the Washington Compost, you know.
01:18:14.000You know, and so, you know, it's so out there.
01:18:20.000You know, I think it becomes, Alex, one of these points where all these misinformed or non-thinkers You know, go along, go along.
01:18:31.000You don't have to say, hey, wait a minute, I'm the next one to be put into the concentration camp.
01:18:36.000You know, and I think, and I can tell you something that came out this morning, which is great because I heard you mention Mikey Adams, who's just fabulous.
01:19:20.000had families, women whose children had died on the show just in the trials with the HPV shot, the human papilloma Gardasil.
01:19:30.000Right. And then now the FDA comes out last week and says, yeah, we may put a warning out.
01:19:34.000Well, you know, I think all of them are, But this one is more remarkable because you're dealing with teenage, young teenage girls, and so it becomes more dramatic.
01:19:59.000If a 4-year-old or a 5-year-old dies, they can attribute it to something else, you know, asthma, bronchitis.
01:20:06.000But when a healthy, good-looking teenager who's a cheerleader, who's 13, 14, or 15 years old, and those are the ones who have been dying because they're the ones who are getting the vaccines right now, you know, Stalin said it the best, the death of one person is a tragedy, the death of 10,000 is a statistic, and I think we've finally taken, you know what to do.
01:20:30.000You know, I don't know the answer, except Dr.
01:20:32.000Mendelsohn back in the 70s just made the blanket statement after he was the national medical director of Head Start, which means he was the top pediatrician in the country when it came to the government program.
01:20:44.000He made the statement, every single vaccine causes neurological damage.
01:20:49.000And that was even before we knew about the mercury, before we knew about the aluminum.
01:21:02.000And I think that everyone's got a piece of the puzzle, Alex.
01:21:04.000And so to say it's only the mercury, or only the squalene, or the aluminum, or the aborted fetal tissue, you know, or the neomyster, streptomycin, which are all...
01:21:13.000So it's not just the adjuvants, it's the cocktail.
01:21:15.000I had Dr. Ursula Blaylock on last week, the prestigious brain surgeon.
01:21:45.000We'll talk about how the Amish don't get autism.
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01:26:12.000Because I know, from not just the White House Science Czar's own government policy book, Ecoscience, but from the United Nations Biological Diversity Assessment, 89-96, from the State Department of Random 200, the Royal Commission on Population, 49-96, It's just amazing stuff that it is eugenics.
01:26:41.000That it's cold-blooded, they see us as animals, and they're carrying this out.
01:26:46.000And I know these vaccines are killing people, but as Dr. Eisenstein just said, the little-known secret is that these vaccines don't work.
01:26:54.000Even if you believe they work, they never get the mutation right.
01:26:57.000Doc, you want to explain that to people?
01:27:00.000Well, it's not only the swine flu, because in 1976 we had the best experiment on vaccines ever.
01:27:08.000That was when Gerald Ford, President Gerald Ford, felt that we were going to have a swine The inoculation of every single American.
01:27:19.000Well, they got through about 15 or 20 percent, and this ran for about five or six weeks.
01:27:24.000And all of a sudden they realized they were people dying from the vaccine, but no one was dying from the swine flu.
01:27:32.000And so what they did is they immediately ended the program.
01:27:35.000They claimed only 40 or 50 people died, but Alex, I can guarantee you without knowing the actual data, if 40 or 50 people died, they wouldn't have stopped the program.
01:28:44.000I mean, she is just the best researcher.
01:28:46.000I'm not sure I've ever in my life met.
01:28:48.000I mean, she gets every look, because she's so gentle-looking, Alex, that everyone is willing to give her the data, thinking that she's not as radical as she is.
01:28:56.000And you take a look at her books, and you take a look at her writing, and you take a look at the data, and what does the data show?
01:29:03.000There is one disease that a vaccine has really caused to be eliminated.
01:29:09.000And if you start with a disease that we don't have a vaccine, tuberculosis, why doesn't Yellow fever, plague, cholera.
01:29:27.000And then when you look at the charts, like polio, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, and you take a look, the disappearance of these diseases was almost, it just kept going from 80 years ago, there was a lot of these diseases, and now less and less.
01:30:02.000I should even dig one up online and post it.
01:30:05.000Because of indoor plumbing, because of sanitation, because of better nutrition, you see starting a hundred years ago a massive plunge In all these diseases, then vaccines worldwide become popular and the diseases actually across the board start going back up, proving that these are hurting people's immune systems, causing problems.
01:30:31.000It is conclusive and that's why the eugenicists want to shoot you up, the evidence shows, is because they believe they're naturally coming in To reapply diseases that hand-washing and better nutrition and running water have gotten rid of.
01:30:52.000There's not a lot of treatment for many of these diseases that we mentioned.
01:30:56.000And so they have to come up with a real scheme.
01:30:58.000And that is, how do we create chronic illness, arthritis, cancer, heart disease, where people will live for a substantial amount of time and will have to take drugs And by the way, you said that in books years ago and on this show.
01:31:23.000Now we have mainstream news reporting in laboratory tests that it's giving the rats they give the vaccines to chronic, hardcore arthritis.
01:31:33.000We'll be right back and talk about that with Dr. Eisenstein.
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01:33:49.000Hello friends, this is Alex Jones and I want each of you to ask yourself this question.
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01:36:08.000I've got a bunch of other news I want to go over.
01:36:10.000I know we have Donna and Bill and Gene and Pat, and I don't want to hang up on these callers, but you were here before we got Dr. Eisenstein on.
01:36:19.000You can either change your question to him about the flu or the New World Order or eugenics or call back another day.
01:36:32.000You're one of the leading experts on this because the government likes to cover up their own studies, their own tests.
01:36:38.000Big Pharma does, or take the aspartame trials.
01:36:41.000It killed almost all the rhesus monkeys that they gave it to, but then they use that data by removing the dead monkeys to say, get it approved.
01:36:49.000You know, they play all sorts of games.
01:36:51.000You're a leading expert because you have one of the biggest practices in the country.
01:36:55.000I mean, you're quite the productive person.
01:36:58.000Not just, you know, do you have a medical examiner's license, or are you a lawyer, or multiple medical degrees.
01:37:04.000You've got a huge, huge practice of homeschoolers, regular folks, and then you also watch the Amish and know them.
01:37:12.000Tell folks, well, finish your point about how the vaccines don't work, and then let's get into just the evidence.
01:37:22.000Right there that you see public schools where some schools, a third of the school, have got neurological disorders, supposedly, or their brains have been rotted by the vaccines and other chemicals.
01:37:34.000And meanwhile, the Amish, you don't ever see that.
01:37:39.000I didn't even really know that one way or the other until Dan Olmsted, who was at the time a senior medical writer for United Press International, he came to Chicago, and he heard about our practice.
01:39:45.000I don't need to be a rocket scientist.
01:39:48.000To know that when I went to see movies like Dumbo when I was a kid, or I went to take my sister, who's 14 years younger than me, you know, when I was in high school and college, I'd take her.
01:39:58.000My parents would say, will you come over and babysit next week and take her to a movie?
01:40:16.000And the schools, and people say, oh, well, that's just false diagnosis.
01:40:20.000Let me tell you, it's not false diagnosis when you're on the green belt and there's autistic kids running around screaming everywhere, completely out of their minds.
01:40:27.000I mean, they're under chemical attack.
01:40:30.000And we've seen autism rates go from, what, 1 in 25,000, 20-something years ago to 1 in 86 now.
01:41:48.000That's when I realized that Alex Jones not only is right, not only has had an impact on the country, You know, but this is, this is not conspiracy theory.
01:42:38.000And then I read about how when your kid has the convulsion that night, they didn't send the police to arrest you, because they do a CAT scan and see the brain swelling and say you shook your kid's head, when you're a medical doctor and have countless others on, Clearly they know the mercury and the squalene is causing an autoimmune response and making the brain swell.
01:42:59.000So then they don't just brain damage your kid with a chemical lobotomy.
01:43:02.000Now they're going to arrest you for it, too.
01:43:04.000Well, you know, let me tell you, Alex, do you think everyone in Germany were Nazis?
01:43:08.000Every one of the people, every one of the Germans.
01:43:10.000But, you know, there's a point that the more so-called, quote, intellectual a society becomes, and I put that word in quotes, not smart.
01:43:18.000You know, they all of a sudden defer to the experts, defer to the experts, and they stop thinking, and then their brain goes soft.
01:43:25.000And all of a sudden, you can't imagine that all these experts are wrong.
01:43:30.000You know, and it doesn't take very many.
01:43:36.000And I think what's happening now, just like at the town hall meetings, Alex Jones hired and spent money to hire all these people to go to town hall meetings.
01:44:03.000Just say it enough, say the lie enough times, and people will believe it.
01:44:07.000I mean, I think that it's just so out of control, and I wanted to know that autism, of all the things in my 30-plus years in medicine, I've never seen anything as devastating to a family.
01:44:28.000And these are the most brave parents in the world who take care of these children.
01:44:32.000You know, something, I was at a conference in California last week, an autism conference, and I realized something I hadn't realized before.
01:44:40.000I'd never met both a husband and a wife together, because one of us was always at home taking care of their child.
01:44:46.000How sad is that, you know, that you can't administer, hand over the care to somebody else?
01:44:55.000The child is in a prison, and the parents are in a prison, and it doesn't have to be this way.
01:45:01.000But then on top of it, but going back to the Amish, I mean, you're right, this has been even picked up in national news, that you don't have these autistic children with the Amish.
01:45:10.000You don't have these high rates of cancer.
01:45:12.000You don't have these rates of the asthma.
01:45:17.000From your medical research and the other research you've gone over, what is it doing?
01:45:20.000I mean, from the other doctors we've had on, That's an oversimplification.
01:46:48.000They love to now say you can't even criticize him.
01:46:51.000Well, I mean, the issue is, I've read over the three different bills, and everything people say is in there is in there and more, and we've shown the subsections, and they use this big lie, like they say, we haven't introduced any anti-gun bills.
01:47:02.000They've introduced all these horrible ones, we've listed them.
01:48:08.000And he said, He's traveled the whole world.
01:48:10.000When he came to America, I was a year old when he came to America, it was after the war, and every morning he got up and said, God bless America.
01:48:18.000There is no country more gracious that will take care of people.
01:48:23.000Everyone's taken care of in this country.
01:48:25.000Mr. President, you don't know what the blessed heck you're talking about.
01:48:28.000If you, God forbid, you know, have an injury, you go to any emergency room, they take care of you.
01:48:33.000That bill isn't passed on to someone else.
01:48:39.000My dad's a physician, and he says they were taught in medical school, they were taught that's what you do, that about 20-30% of your practice is supposed to be free.
01:48:48.000And then now, under this Obamacare, it actually takes that liability off the hospitals, off the doctors, and off the insurance companies, and then you get government care.
01:48:59.000The government says they can't even read the 1300-page bill.
01:49:03.000They're going to now practice medicine, and then Obama gives these speeches where he says what test you need, and he's now Dr. Obama?
01:49:13.000There are a couple of doctors in Congress and in the Senate, and every one of them is against this, Republican or Democrat.
01:49:20.000I find that very fascinating, you know.
01:49:24.000But, you know, I think you're right, Alex.
01:49:26.000I think they're seeing through it, and so your message is coming through it.
01:49:30.000Really, God bless you, what you've been doing.
01:49:32.000You know, it's been just incredible because, you know, who would have thought that two or three years ago, you know, that, I mean, it's just absolutely amazing.
01:49:41.000But I can tell you, going back to the vaccine issues, what can we do?
01:49:44.000Because we don't have to bury our head in the sand right now.
01:49:47.000There are some very simple, simple treatments.
01:51:00.000get outside you know get over the fun i want to know how powerful this message is you know there's been 35 years of deception by the american academy of dermatology thank the scum son will give you skin cancer well that's true how can we have more skin cancer now than ever and no one's in the sun well i'll tell you why just what you said sunscreen they've got chemicals and poison just as bad as the vaccine no one should be taking sunscreen you know i'll
01:52:07.000And I'm giving a paper in December, I'm presenting a paper at the American Academy of Anti-Aging, and the topic is, um, low vitamin D levels, the root cause of cancer.
01:52:19.000There's enough evidence that that's most probably true.
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01:56:26.000This is all a fluid situation that so much came out on Gardasil killing people.
01:56:32.000So much has come out on autism that they're now trying this big flu hysteria as a cover for federal Exactly. I think you're right on point.
01:56:51.000so so really they're playing the game from twenty years ago but we've you and i many others will come folks out the great listeners out And so now, I saw them go from saying they had 195 million doses to 40 million dosages, and I'm not saying we've had victory, because they may keep going, but it does look like we're seeing them start to pull back.
01:57:09.000I think there's no question about it, you know.
01:57:12.000And so, they're applying as much scare tactics as possible.
01:57:33.000What the problem is that there's no question about it that promiscuity among young children, among teenagers, is the cause of sexually transmitted disease.
01:57:43.000Until we say that out loud, it's not going to stop.
01:57:47.000And all we do is give it different names.
01:57:48.000Before it used to be called syphilis and gonorrhea, then it changed to herpes, then it became AIDS.
01:57:55.000And now they're talking about, you know, and so all they're doing is giving fancy names, because we're so politically correct, we're not allowed to say, if you have sexual relations, you know, outside of marriage, or, and I'm not trying to be this, you know, religious type person.
01:58:11.000No, the point is, it's dangerous behavior.
01:58:18.000And so they give you a vaccine, which they admit on the insert doesn't even protect you from the human papillomavirus, all the hundreds of strains, and then it kills a bunch of people.
01:58:30.000And let me tell you something, my senior partner, Dr. Rosie, who's been with me for more than 25 years, calls all these, the Gardasil, the Hepatitis B vaccine, the safe sex vaccine.
01:58:49.000And all of a sudden people say, wait a minute, that's not a very good message.
01:58:53.000And it's no different here than the The flu vaccine and the whole vaccine program, you know, I think people are wising up and that's the worst thing.
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02:02:20.000We are joined by John Perkins, best-selling, New York Times number one best-selling, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
02:02:27.000He's got his part two vaunted hoodwinked about to come out in the next few months, already on pre-sale, I'm told.
02:02:36.000Guaranteed to be another bestseller, probably number one again.
02:02:40.000And by the way, he is, in my upcoming film, Fall of the Republic.
02:02:43.000So we're going to be, and that's a film all about the economy and what these big corporate interests are doing.
02:02:49.000It's bipartisan, looking at how both parties are controlled by the same interests.
02:02:53.000So we're honored to have him with us for the next hour.
02:02:55.000Coming up in 30 minutes, we're going to open the phone specifically on confessions of an economic hitman.
02:03:00.000Most people know who John is, but It's always best maybe to have him just briefly recap what he did and then why he woke up and changed direction.
02:03:11.000Mr. Perkins, great to have you here with us.
02:03:37.000You're even better in person than over the radio, which is hard to believe.
02:03:39.000You're a smooth operator, John Perkins.
02:03:42.000It's almost like you're an economic hitman.
02:03:44.000but we're really good at patting each other's backs aren't we Alec?
02:03:48.000no but it did go well and that is exciting nutshell tell folks about yourself and get into hoodwinked Well, I was an economic hitman, and I think it's fair to say that we economic hitmen have created the world's first truly global empire.
02:04:05.000We've done it primarily without the military.
02:04:07.000First time in history that's happened.
02:04:09.000And we work many ways, but the most common is that we identify a third world country that I
02:06:07.000was in an airport in L.A. and saw this bookstore full of people with two people grabbing and buying the books up.
02:06:18.000The stack of economic hitmen go down just in 20 seconds while I was looking at a magazine.
02:06:24.000So, really exciting that your book has had such success, because when I can physically see people, you know, buying it off the shelf in front of me in seconds, it just must be amazing.
02:06:36.000When we come back, we'll talk about Hoodwinked, probably going to be even bigger, with John Perkins and his take on the Blackwater revelations, how that ties into CIA hit teams, the Jackals, and a lot more.
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02:10:26.000The new one's coming out very, very soon, and that is Hoodwinked.
02:10:30.000John Perkins, tell us specifically, then we'll get into all these other issues, about Hoodwinked, when it's coming out, what it covers.
02:10:37.000It comes out November 10th at Random House, and it's, you know, what really generated it was the current recession.
02:10:44.000And my sense that all of the stuff that we're talking about, AIG, Wall Street, the bank, the auto industry, you know, try to deal with all of that as triage.
02:11:21.000Sure, we need Band-Aids, but we need to go much, much deeper than that.
02:11:25.000Capitalism's been around for about 400 years.
02:11:28.000It's taken many, many different forms.
02:11:31.000And in the last 30 years, really, since the time of Reagan, and this has happened under both Democrats and Republicans, but it really started with Reagan, it's taken this trend toward this very mutant, viral form of capitalism, which is extremely greedy and extremely special.
02:11:48.000The form of capitalism that came out of Milton Friedman, the economist from the University of Chicago, and Reagan bought into it big time, and every president since has bought into it.
02:11:59.000Well, wasn't the coup de grace in 99 with the Glass-Steagall act that Bill Clinton got rid of?
02:12:57.000Yeah, well, yeah, and that's way beyond...
02:12:59.000The laws never would have permitted this before.
02:13:02.000After the recession, we implemented usury laws that didn't permit that, but then those all changed.
02:13:08.000There's actually some people paying 800% on their debt.
02:13:11.000and people that have what we call the payday loans.
02:13:14.000You know, you can go in before you actually get your paycheck and get a loan on the expected paycheck and those are huge interest rates and they're Amazing. Well, the book is coming out on November 11th, correct, John?
02:13:37.000Fantastic. They just handed me a note saying he is scheduled for November 11th when it comes out, so my producer was wrong by one day, so it's coming out November 10th.
02:13:44.000Now, I agree with a lot of what you have to say.
02:13:47.000Later in the interview, I want to get into, you know, maybe somewhat of a debate about economic systems and choices, but I think what we agree on is this crony capitalist system, this mutant form of capitalism.
02:13:59.000I mean, if they can just create trillions in made-up derivatives and then have the central governments bail them out when they're using the money to then go loan it at loan-sharking rates to third-world countries, third-world people, the American people, I mean, that's sick!
02:14:14.000We give them the government-backed loans, they then leverage it, fractional reserve it, and then we pay interest to the banks on our money they loan back to us.
02:14:25.000I mean, is that a good way of boiling it down?
02:14:27.000That certainly is, and it is piracy, there's no question about it.
02:14:31.000And we must turn it around, Alex, and that's really a large part of Foot Wing, is what we can do, what you and I and all your listeners can do.
02:14:40.000We can take control of One of the things that we have to understand is that the big corporations, the banks and the other corporations that are behind this, are very beholden to us.
02:14:50.000They only exist because we give them business.
02:14:54.000We buy their goods and services or we allow our tax dollars and our government to go into that.
02:14:59.000There are many ways to resist, and I think it's terribly important that we do that now.
02:15:04.000You know, what we have to realize in all of this is that this economic crisis is basically telling us that we have a failed system, totally failed.
02:15:22.000It's not a model that you can give to China or India or Latin America or Africa.
02:15:27.000You'd need another 5 or 6 planets with all our resources and no people to be able to use this as a model for other people.
02:15:34.000So what we're seeing is a totally failed system.
02:15:37.000And we must understand that for our sake, for our children's sake, and our grandchildren's sake, John Perkins, I want to get into that area because I agree with you on so much, but I also disagree with you in some areas because we know we do have a wasteful form of life, lifestyle.
02:16:02.000We know we're 4% of the world's population in the U.S. and we use roughly half the world's resources.
02:16:07.000And we know there's a lot of toxic waste associated with that and a lot of problems.
02:16:12.000But the way I see government addressing that, and the big megacorporations addressing it, is by haunt showing and steering the environmental movement to simply set up new taxes and control to further vertically integrate the consolidation of power in this new phase of robber baron colonialism because they fundamentally know that there is a certain truth to what's happening to the environment on many And so
02:16:42.000they wrap the truth around their overall lie of this new bank of the world, global government, paying carbon taxes to the new bank of the world.
02:16:54.000I mean really it's going from the robber barons going in and economic hitmanning third world countries under their control to now just setting up a planetary regime under the environment.
02:17:05.000Because they know at a base level that makes sense in people's ingrained humanity to be good stewards of the land.
02:17:14.000And the way that they distort the truth and, you know, move groups.
02:17:18.000So today we've got this huge grassroots movement basically supported by the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry opposing any kind of real insurance for people that don't have insurance.
02:17:31.000We've got the corporations out there making it One amazing instance of this is what's just happened in Honduras,
02:17:47.000where a democratically elected president was overthrown by a military regime that was under the control of the CIA and big American corporate interests, the big agribusinesses, Dole and Chiquita, Kraft Cargo, as well as the textile industry.
02:18:02.000And yet, here in the United States, we're being told that this is And just to be clear,
02:18:32.000Obama came out day one a month ago and said, we're not involved, this is terrible, but now even mainstream media has come out and clearly shown private corporations, mercenaries, CIA front groups, jackals, hyenas that you call them, uh...
02:18:48.000were clearly involved and did this and even dropped the president off at a costa rican u.s.
02:18:53.000military base so i asked you during the break i said from what you've seen in the news is that accurate you said yes please elaborate on the difference between economic hitman versus jackals and hyenas and what really happened a month ago in honduras well economic hitman went into honduras originally tried to convince So
02:19:30.000they're going to go from, what, 50 cents an hour to $1.10 or something?
02:19:38.000And also that there's a lot of sweatshops from our textile companies, you know, like Nike and other companies like that in there.
02:19:45.000But it's much bigger than that because something similar happened with Aristide in Haiti.
02:19:52.000And both Haiti and Honduras are looked at as the bottom rung on the ladder of wages in Latin America.
02:20:00.000So no country will go below those countries.
02:20:03.000So if, in fact, Honduras or Haiti increases their minimum wage, then Ecuador and Nicaragua and El Salvador and every other country in the southern hemisphere has to increase its wages to stay above those because no one wants to go below those countries.
02:20:19.000So it wasn't just about Honduras any more than it was just about Haiti.
02:20:23.000It was about drawing a line in the sand and saying, we are not going to permit this to happen.
02:20:29.000And I think we have to understand that there's a revolution going on in Latin America.
02:20:33.000Ten countries representing more than 80% of the population of South America have voted in in the last few years progressive presidents who are saying no more exploitation by these foreign corporations.
02:20:46.000countries. And every one of these countries, Alex, during most of my lifetime was run by brutal dictators who were under the control of the CIA and big corporations.
02:20:54.000That's all changed very, very recently.
02:20:57.000And so the line in the sand now has been drawn in Honduras.
02:21:02.000This is a fairly easy country to do it.
02:21:05.000But this is trying to establish a whole new precedent saying, look, we're stopping this revolution right here.
02:21:11.000And in stopping it, we're also going to undermine these other ten countries that have already voted in these presidents.
02:21:18.000And the most American people don't have any idea that this is going on.
02:21:23.000And our media has been very flack at informing us.
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02:22:49.000today in the new world orders war against humanity barack obama is the tip of the spear we've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of uh...
02:22:59.000world order that i think all of us would like to say the obama deception completely destroyed Well, Obama's already fudging.
02:23:10.000Yeah, but since day one in this election.
02:23:13.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement, a personality cultist, who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
02:24:09.000How is it that we, the people, grow the cotton, weave it into fabric, engrave the ink, embed the strips and fibers that protect it from counterfeit, then cart the money off to a privately owned bank to have it lent back to us at interest, forcing us to pay taxes to service the debt?
02:24:23.000Is this capitalism, or was Jefferson correct when he said, a central bank issuing a public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
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02:26:18.000John, you specifically, all over Latin America, all over Asia, you were kind of the velvet glove, I would describe it from reading your book, and also reading other government documents about similar programs, going and trying to, you know, give them the carrot instead of the stick.
02:26:36.000But when the stick goes in, what happens?
02:26:40.000And in asking that question, I want to preface it with, obviously you know about Blackwater, Running hit teams, but the media has spun this saying oh just killing al-qaeda That's whoever they say al-qaeda is now it turns out.
02:26:53.000It's business people political enemies business enemies of the White House Actual private merc teams we know Delta Force And other groups out of the Pentagon have done have engaged in murder But is this new to have private contractors doing it or are we now just learning about it because of the internet age?
02:28:17.000Yes, the letter of Martha is a great way to put it, Alex.
02:28:21.000Yeah, you know, there was communism, and that truly existed.
02:28:26.000There's Catholicism, there's all kinds of isms, but terrorism really isn't an ism.
02:28:32.000You know, there's al-Qaedaism, there's FARCism, but they're totally separate.
02:28:35.000And, yeah, this is just a way of making it sound as though we've got some huge enemy out there.
02:28:41.000What we really get out there is a bunch of starving people, unhappy people, who latch on to fanatical leaders like Osama bin Laden because they don't know what else to do.
02:28:54.000And they do it under FARC in Colombia.
02:28:56.000I know a lot of the members of FARC, and I shouldn't say a lot.
02:29:01.000These are farmers who were driven off their land by big hydroelectric projects or oil fields that destroyed their farming land.
02:29:09.000They have no way to feed their families.
02:29:26.000I've actually found in my research, a lot of times, Western powers and corporations will actually fund the radical group that is bloody and crooked.
02:29:36.000As a way down the road to then successfully demonize the entire indigenous population, so they always push people towards the most radicalized, knowing down the road that will discredit the indigenous resistance.
02:30:15.000We're creating a war there, basically, so we can put military bases there, and we can supply huge amounts of military equipment to this country.
02:30:24.000So we give them the money under the understanding that they'll buy back equipment from us and allow us to have military bases there.
02:30:31.000Yeah, you know, this goes back to the opium wars of the British Empire in China and India.
02:30:36.000It's a very, very old tale, and we're just continuing to do it, and fortunately, We're going to go to break in a moment.
02:30:47.000Long segment coming up and we're going to get more into that and also one of the new constitutions in Ecuador.
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02:33:55.000In a recent study conducted by a major environmental auditor, they found that over 260 chemicals and pollutants are present in municipal drinking water.
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02:39:11.000Chiquita incidentally was found guilty of hiring assassination squads in Colombia.
02:39:15.000In fact, it admitted that it had paid organizations listed by the U.S.
02:39:18.000government as terrorist groups for protection and paid a $25 million fine in 2004.
02:39:25.000Eric Holder, our current attorney general, was their main defender then, and now he's defending the actions of the coup that overthrew the Democratic elected president of Honduras.
02:39:39.000It's just another instance, Alex, of how ingrained all of this is in all of our governments, whether we have Democrats in there, including the most liberal Democrat we've had, the current one, Obama, or whether we have conservative Republicans like Bush.
02:39:55.000The real people in control are the big corporations.
02:40:00.000We're seeing this over and over and over again.
02:40:04.000And so you've got guys like Cheney, you've got guys like all the cabinet members you mentioned earlier, who now are trying not to be found guilty of being involved in assassination attempts.
02:40:15.000But the fact of the matter is, all these people at the top of government came out of the big corporations.
02:40:29.000Sure. Because whether they're working for the government or whether they're working for private corporations I saw him getting four-plus times the money that McCain got.
02:40:50.000I just was clear he was the anointed one.
02:40:53.000But I do have to give credit when I do occasionally see it.
02:40:58.000Panetta did scurry over immediately to Congress within days of getting in and said, look, they just admitted to me they've got all these head squads.
02:41:12.000Because then you bring up Well, you know, again, I don't have any inside information on Obama's personality or those people around him, but my suspicion is that he's probably a guy with a conscience.
02:41:43.000Who would like to do the right thing, and so would many of his people, but you get caught in the system, and once you're in, it's extremely scary.
02:41:54.000How are you going to fight the military?
02:41:55.000So you try to do whatever you can on whatever front you can.
02:41:59.000I've seen this happen time and time again with Latin American presidents who want to do the right things, but realize that if they get thrown out or if they get assassinated, that's And you try to do what you can.
02:42:17.000In the case of a guy like Obama, he's tried to institute some environmental laws that are decent, and he's tried to do things with health insurance, but he keeps running up against very, very powerful forces of resistance.
02:43:26.000Now, organics, even in small towns, because people demanded it and then built a market, buying local is getting bigger and bigger.
02:43:35.000And we've gotten, because companies, they trans-passed a lot of foods recently, and, you know, we've We've got companies to clean up terribly polluted rivers.
02:43:46.000We have a lot of power when we use it.
02:43:48.000I think we need to understand that it's always come from we, the people.
02:43:52.000We didn't get rid of slavery in this country because Abraham Lincoln found himself in the White House.
02:43:57.000We got rid of slavery because we voted in a president, Lincoln, who was opposed to slavery.
02:44:03.000Women didn't get the right to vote because Woodrow Wilson was pro-suffrage.
02:44:08.000Women got the right to vote because they'd been demonstrating for it for a long time.
02:44:11.000And then when Wilson was president, he constantly was out on the road speaking about how we needed to get involved in World War I, how we needed to defend democracy in Europe.
02:44:19.000Women met him at every place he went holding up huge placards that said, why should we defend democracy in Europe when half of our population in the United States can't vote?
02:44:28.000So finally, Woodrow Wilson came around.
02:44:33.000We didn't get out of Vietnam because Richard Nixon was anti-war.
02:44:38.000He had to take us out of it because he understood that we the people were not going to
02:45:18.000John, I agree with you on that front, and I believe you're coming at this from a good perspective, that you're a good guy, that you have changed your ways.
02:45:27.000I just think it's also important to realize that just trying to do the right thing isn't enough.
02:45:33.000We have to make sure we're not part of the fake corporate clone or counterfeit where they try to get control of our grassroots movements and then say use environmental laws to take farms and ranches or restrict people. Take Austin.
02:45:50.000I've watched them with smart growth take farms and ranches, not let people build on it.
02:45:54.000And then 10 years later, they build shopping malls on it and skyscrapers.
02:45:59.000So I also see the environmental movement run by the big banks, by the very economic pirate ships, you know, these corporations bigger than most governments.
02:46:09.000And so, yes, I know there's real environmental problems.
02:46:19.000I don't want to, you know, live off the backs of starving people in Peru.
02:46:23.000But at the same time, It's a big job to navigate this and try to figure out what's real and what isn't and how do you not get co-opted.
02:46:33.000I mean, because it sounds great to take Ecuador and say they have a constitution saying that they're going to give trees and animals rights, but then I always see that Well, you're right about that,
02:47:04.000But, you know, I think that we can see beyond a great deal of that.
02:47:10.000We can see that there They're using their powers and abusing it.
02:47:14.000We can see this in the way they take care of themselves.
02:47:17.000I do a lot of speaking at business schools these days, which I find ironic that business schools even invite me to speak.
02:47:22.000I wrote a book called Confessions of an Economic Kid, man.
02:47:24.000But the kids in these business schools, many of them are really interested in some of these subjects.
02:47:29.000And one of the things I keep running into is some of the icons that are held out there.
02:47:33.000A guy named Jack Welch, who was CEO of General Electric, is held out as this great icon because he made his corporation lean and mean, Which means he laid off a quarter of GE's people, put them out on the street, but at the same time he paid himself huge bonuses and salary increases.
02:47:50.000And he also took GE away from manufacturing things good, being a manufacturing firm, into being a financial paper trading firm, which is one of the things that drove us into the financial crisis.
02:48:01.000Yeah, it's engaged in derivatives, that's right.
02:48:04.000How do we, yeah, so how do we hold a guy like that out as an icon in our business schools?
02:48:32.000In fact, I talk so much about the map-making of the mind or blueprints in the mind, how the establishment builds these, and I'm not saying Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods Well,
02:48:54.000humanitarians and people that stood up against corruption and so the establishment very cunningly took our real heroes away and gave us heroes of no consequence that's true. And we don't need to let that happen anymore.
02:49:09.000Yeah, you mentioned Tiger Woods, for example.
02:49:20.000$109? Well, meanwhile, Nike's paying its workers in Indonesia that make all the things that Michael Jordan is advertising, sub-living standard wages.
02:49:31.000These people are living almost like slaves, and that's well documented.
02:49:36.000So, you know, why doesn't Tiger Woods, if he wants to be our hero, I'm not going to let Nike get away with it anymore.
02:49:46.000I'm going to speak out, or I'm going to advertise some other company, and I'll do it for free, some company that's paying their share.
02:49:54.000That would revolutionize the world, but see, Tiger Woods, the only reason I know about this is I've looked into him, and I heard the number on the radio, on Fox News Radio, they announced his hundred plus million dollar contract, and that's just Nike, not counting this watch, and that shirt,
02:50:10.000and I guess all of us have to not buy it while they do that, but Tiger Woods has been interviewed how he isn't involved in any politics, in any policies, in any charities, really, except for some charity for college dealing with golf.
02:50:27.000He thinks it's a moral thing that he's not involved.
02:50:31.000He thinks it's like a good thing and the corporations just worship him because he is cold-blooded.
02:50:37.000And I can't imagine having a hundred million dollars a year based on people dying of diseases in sweatshops, in these horrible malaria-infested camps, and maquiladoras.
02:50:50.000I mean, and I'm not some goody-two-shoe.
02:50:52.000I mean, I'm a pretty hard-nosed guy, but yeah, Tiger Woods could become a mega icon.
02:52:07.000And, you know, I think that at the top of a number of our corporations, we do have sociopath people who have basically no conscience, that don't care about what harm they bring to others.
02:52:17.000I think Jack Welch was a person like that, and I think, yeah, I think Phil Heide is.
02:52:22.000But throughout the rest of the corporation, most of the other managers and people are not, and those are the ones we need to get to.
02:52:29.000Well, absolutely, but I mean, also we destroy our own world, not just environmentally, but culturally.
02:52:37.000This attitude, I see the local yuppies mimic it, and they're into laughing at bad things happening, as if it doesn't touch them, when their kids are going to end up committing suicide or on drugs in this sick society.
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02:56:00.000Me and John were just talking about all the websites and groups we can find out about the sweatshop free clothes and products that are becoming more and more popular.
02:56:09.000And it's those little choices that you think are little that really add up to big things.
02:56:15.000And then I hear these arguments about, oh, if there's not a sweatshop, they wouldn't have any job.
02:56:20.000No. In every study I've seen, and Ross Perot covered this in the mid-90s, it made the standard of living in Mexico go down, standard of living in Brazil go down, standard of living in Indonesia go down.
02:57:32.000Let me get a quick comment from John Perkins, and I would just briefly say, this is crony capitalism, and it's been said many times, where the risk is socialized, the profit Yeah, no, I totally agree with you.
02:57:49.000That's why I say it's what I'm calling a mutant form of capitalism where it's all balanced in favor of a few very, very wealthy and powerful people.
02:57:59.000But we need to turn that around and we can do that.
02:58:03.000Yeah. Well, we better, because they're just feeding the whole world into their debt black hole.
02:58:20.000Ronnie in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air with John Perkins.
02:58:26.000Perkins, I lived for nine months in poverty-ridden Peru under U.S.
02:58:30.000puppet Toledo, and it dawned on me there that would not absolute freedom, and I'm asking you, absolute freedom worldwide for farmers help cancel all continually counterproductive wars on behalf of illegal drug warlords that were waging in Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Afghanistan, all over the world.
02:58:49.000You're asking, how is the phony drug war?
02:58:52.000Boy, I loved watching General Myers on TV last night explain how the occupation had made the opium production go way up.
02:59:00.000That's a good final comment from John Perkins.
02:59:03.000Yeah, I mean the farmers around the world have really been hit hard.
02:59:08.000They've been hit hard by what we call free trade agreements, where, you know, it's absurd today that a Mexican farmer can produce cotton a lot more cheaply than a U.S.
02:59:19.000farmer. But you can buy U.S.-produced cotton in Mexico for a lot less of a price than Mexican cotton simply because it's so subsidized in the United States for the big industry that this has hurt the small farmer time and time again, whether it's cotton or corn or soybeans or whatever it is, the small farmer.
02:59:38.000Yeah, in Mexico, they'll just let you go die.
03:00:04.000Well, the new book's coming out, and we're going to interview you the day after it comes out, November 11th, coming up in a month and a half or so.
03:00:11.000John Perkins, best-selling author of Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
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