On today's show, Alex Jones is joined by Rep. Jim Guest (R-Missouri) to discuss the new report from the New Freedom Initiative that says 50% of school children in the United States are mentally ill, and that the government is making everything a mental illness so that they can be the priest class that drug us and run our lives.
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00:01:09.000Out of psychology today, the house organ of the priest class that are pushing all of their drug ads on us and that want to drug, according to the New Freedom Initiative's internal documents, 50% of school children, saying half are mentally ill at least, they're making everything a mental illness so that they can be the priest class that drug us and run our lives.
00:01:32.000And so we're going to break down this amazingly distorted hit piece coming up.
00:02:16.000I mean, and the whole story, you know, they kind of imply in here I'm crazy when I said that I've been visited by the FBI but I couldn't talk about it.
00:03:01.000But the side issue, that's delusional in here, yes!
00:03:05.000But see, showing how full of crap this guy is, back at the time I said, I can't tell you, it's a, it's a subpoena, I'm under a federal subpoena saying not talk about it.
00:03:37.000I apologize to Representative Guest for being un-Genteel.
00:03:42.000Representative Jim Guest of Missouri, a Republican, represents DeKalb County and parts of Clinton, Buchanan, and Gentry Counties, District 5, and the Missouri House of Representatives.
00:03:53.000He was elected to the House in November 2002.
00:03:54.000He's on several committees, and he is now sitting in the committee to hear public testimony on the MIAC report that we broke.
00:04:44.000And they think that if they just say, everything I'm saying is a lie, that we'll all get tied up in arguing about whether I'm a liar or not.
00:04:51.000Instead of, it's like this, the executive order.
00:04:54.000Then we're going to represent Jim Guest.
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00:05:49.000Alright, let's go to Representative Jim Guest here right now.
00:05:52.000Representative Guest, good to have you here with us, sir.
00:05:55.000Alex, it's good to be here and it's good to be on your show and continue to fight for the sovereignty and the freedom and the rights of the people of this country, which continually are being challenged, that's for sure.
00:06:07.000Well, sir, you were the first person to be nationally interviewed, if memory serves, when the Mayak Report broke.
00:06:13.000Did Infowars.com break the Mayak Report?
00:06:17.000I think I got a...somebody sent me a copy of the email that morning, and I kind of questioned whether it was true or not.
00:06:26.000Shortly after that, you called me, and I think we did an interview that afternoon.
00:06:30.000So, you were the...yes, you broke the story.
00:06:33.000You're the first one that I knew about it from, yes.
00:06:39.000And again, I just, this is what the establishment does, and I have to respond to some of it, but if I spend all my time, it's like responding to the media about whether or not they're setting up a bank of the world for global governance, when it's in all the federal documents, all over the news, they'll simultaneously say they're doing it, but then if you say you don't want world government, they say you're a liar.
00:07:33.000Some of the state officials got disciplined.
00:07:38.000The Lieutenant Governor came out and had press conferences against it, and it became a national issue.
00:07:43.000Representative Guest, can you recap what's in MIAC, what happened, and now the new discoveries coming out in the committee that the anarchists appeared to be government provocateurs.
00:07:53.000They've been caught in other states and cities, like Denver last year, confirmed as provocateurs.
00:07:58.000Denver Post, provocateurs in the Fed Rally, is the PrisonPlanet.com headline.
00:08:04.000Can you tell us what the committee is finding?
00:08:11.000The first one basically was in the state capitol and at that point we had the highway patrol, the MIAC people there, and they kind of obviously defended the program.
00:08:23.000They told about how it came about and what they were using it for.
00:08:28.000Ironically, in all the description when they told about how the MIAC was functioning, they never listed Terrorism or potential terrorists that they were using it for.
00:08:39.000They were using it for sharing of information within the state on thefts and stuff like that that was going on.
00:08:47.000You know, they do have to have a sharing of information, but I thought it was ironic that they didn't talk about what report that came out, which is the modern militia movement that tended to gloss over, ignore that.
00:09:56.000They started asking some pointed questions.
00:09:58.000We had somebody from the Illinois, I think what they call theirs, not DIAC, and I was rather disturbed to listen to what they were giving us there.
00:10:07.000Because basically we asked the question, you know, if you gather information on citizens when you make a stop, can you find out if your information, if your name's on that list, and basically through the Sunshine Law, Freedom of Information, or some other way of getting that, they basically said, no, you're not going to be made this.
00:10:27.000And they have somebody there trying to defend the MIAC stuff.
00:10:33.000And where he really went wrong was when he tried to say that the Patriot Act, if you read that, you'd really understand why that was needed.
00:10:39.000And that certainly fired up the committee members.
00:10:41.000Well, sir, I received from inside the FBI their training videos that they give their officers, their agents, and they're giving to local police.
00:10:50.000And it says if somebody's got binoculars or a cell phone or sleeping bags or maps to go ahead and put them in the terror database for life.
00:11:00.000And this is designed, just like England, to put everybody on a list so they can claim probable cause on you.
00:11:08.000If they stopped me at some point and asked to search my car and I said no because they had no reason to, for some reason they did, I would be on that list because they might find a shotgun in my trunk, they might find a box of shotgun shells or something like that, which any sportsman or anybody that can legally carry that should do.
00:11:29.000And by the way, Mr. Guest, Representative Guest, we're going to break.
00:11:33.000If you have a gun, if you have a map, if you have a cell phone, it's so wide it's meant to put everybody in secret police databases that go to the federal level.
00:11:44.000And we have the internal FBI training videos on this.
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00:16:26.000We just got mailed this with Obama on it.
00:16:29.000I guess we'll be putting a terrorist database because of this.
00:16:33.000But I don't want to just glaze over this, what the representative is telling you.
00:16:37.000We have the training manuals, we have the training videos, we know.
00:16:41.000And two years ago, a head federal marshal in Denver came out and said that they were ordered to put families, children, they had a quota to put innocent people on a terror database for the rest of their lives.
00:16:56.000So that they can go back to Congress and Homeland Security and say, look, we've put this many people on the database.
00:17:02.000And that meant a little kid taking a photo out the airplane window.
00:17:06.000That meant someone ordering a vegetarian lunch at one of the kiosks.
00:17:17.000In the name of fighting, uh, you know, foreign terrorism.
00:17:20.000But now they flipped the whole deal to say it's for the American people.
00:17:23.000And that's what the MIAC report and the Homeland Security... Remember day one I said, that's a Homeland Security report regurgitated by the state.
00:17:31.000They have to to get their federal money.
00:17:32.000And then the DHS report came out and it was word for word.
00:17:35.000So, this is the secret police putting you in a database for literally no reason to create the perception that there are terrorists everywhere.
00:17:45.000Representative Guess, continue with what happened in these hearings.
00:17:48.000We, like I said, we had our hearing in St.
00:17:53.000There were several pointed questions and testimonies by individual citizens who wanted answers.
00:18:01.000The chairman of the committee tried to tell us at the beginning of these hearings that we're not supposed to dwell on the modern militia movement.
00:18:09.000Well, that's what prompted all of this, so obviously a large number of people were very concerned.
00:18:15.000Those who had been almost pointed out that our hearing in Kansas City Uh, Darrell Cassa, who was the vice presidential candidate for the Constitution Party, was actually there because he was second to Chuck Baldwin and very much involved in being pointed out there.
00:18:33.000And he gave some very good testimony of why he thought it was dangerous and the danger to that.
00:18:39.000So, we, and there was a couple of law enforcers from Kansas City tried to justify Yeah, but let's be clear.
00:18:47.000It's saying Libertarian bumper stickers, Ron Paul bumper stickers, anti-UN stickers.
00:19:17.000This is the police being turned into federalized political police, like right out of the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.
00:19:24.000Yeah, but when we asked him what the, in Kansas City, the law enforcement there, what they did with this, he said, well, you know, he did send it down to people to review in his command.
00:19:36.000I said, you know, what did you see in there?
00:20:21.000But then we'll continue to have one more hearing here.
00:20:24.000The citizens are coming out and asking some very pointed questions, and we'll have probably in about three weeks, I think, the report will come out with our suggestions on this.
00:20:35.000A large number of people have said, all the way from disbanding the MIAC to an obvious oversight committee.
00:20:44.000And what I want to know is, my question, which I haven't gotten an answer from yet, can anybody in Missouri or any other state find out if they're on the watch list, if they're in the data file, for whatever reason, why they have been stopped?
00:20:57.000You know, I think any citizen in this country needs to know whether they've been bombed.
00:21:01.000Just like our watch list and our no-fly list.
00:21:04.000They've got, what, hundreds of thousands of people on there, and people who shouldn't be on there, and they have a common name.
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00:24:23.000investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
00:24:29.000I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
00:24:33.000The hijackers' ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
00:25:31.000Cell phones, video cameras, sleeping bags, maps.
00:25:35.000And of course, this has all separately come out that the Texas report that we also broke years ago.
00:25:42.000But 2004, written by the Feds, said if somebody's wearing blue jeans, they could be a terrorist.
00:25:49.000So it's basically everybody's a terrorist, but the government, the real terrorist, staging the terror attacks.
00:25:54.000I want to go to Tony here in just a minute, and I want to keep Representative Guest on with him.
00:26:00.000But Representative Guest, it came out in testimony, and we have a story written on this with links to it.
00:26:08.000That there were provocateurs at the Fed rally, and they were overheard saying, yeah, we can't even get them to jaywalk, we're not going to be able to arrest them.
00:26:16.000And in Denver last year, the police had to admit they did stage attacks on themselves.
00:26:20.000The Canadian rollout of police got caught at the SPP meeting doing this.
00:26:25.000Can you tell us about provocateurs, anarchists at the, in the Fed rallies, and now confirmed at the Tea Parties?
00:26:33.000I speak of one, so I must be one of them.
00:26:35.000I asked that question at those end of the Fed rallies there in Kansas City, because I spoke of them.
00:26:40.000I asked the people, I said, do you watch these, infiltrate them?
00:26:43.000And they said, no, we're not of concern to them.
00:26:46.000However, I have trouble believing that, because we see some people at those rallies that we do not recognize, and they just don't fit in.
00:26:55.000We, that's our concern, is that there will be those provocateurs, somebody to stir some up, create an incident to justify taking action against these people, protesting the Federal Reserve, or protesting what these MIAC reports have done.
00:27:12.000So, at some point, I think we're, I'm concerned, afraid that that's what's going to happen to justify this.
00:27:18.000And the other problem we have is the Department of Homeland Security has an interest in putting money into it.
00:27:24.000And I think they have undue influence on what's going on.
00:27:27.000The people in these MIAC groups say that, you know, they deny that, say that's not the case.
00:27:33.000But then they do say, you know, well, they are a source of funding to us to keep some of our organizations going.
00:27:39.000Well, that's what these threat fusion centers are, is where they're moving, generally in former federal buildings or former National Guard armories all over the country, they move the county, the city, multiple counties and cities into one roof.
00:27:54.000The feds give them cars, helicopters, armored vehicles, dial in to the systems that track cell phones real time, to the federal cameras, the face scanning, the license plate reading cameras.
00:28:07.000And they're just totally federalizing police.
00:28:09.000They send them out to spy on everybody and then report people back into these databases that are just full of made-up enemies list and innuendo.
00:28:19.000My dad got pulled over a couple years ago in East Texas driving back from our family ranch.
00:28:25.000at about 10 o'clock at night, and the guy said, yeah, the cameras flagged you.
00:28:28.000And people that don't believe this just Google town runs every plate of every car.
00:28:34.000And you'll see it in Florida and Indiana and Texas.
00:28:36.000And the feds pay grants to put these in.
00:28:38.000And my dad was driving through this little town flagged as Alex Jones because I had an old car that I'd sold him.
00:28:46.000My dad will never buy a new car, so I at least sold him one of my old cars.
00:28:50.000It's not that he's a penny pincher, he just doesn't like to, he's just from the country, he doesn't buy things.
00:28:55.000He's got shoes with holes in them and everything else.
00:28:58.000So I sold him this car for next to nothing, so it had my name on it.
00:29:02.000And they pulled him over and they got, and they said, are you Alex Jones?
00:29:05.000You know, I've got you in the database.
00:29:07.000This said, proceed with extreme caution.
00:29:10.000And my dad said, how do you know that?
00:29:12.000And they said, well, we have this whole database on you now that the feds gave us.
00:29:16.000So my daddy gets to get interrogated because of me.
00:29:19.000I mean, that's, this country's Nazi Germany!
00:29:23.000There's somebody looking over your shoulder at all points, and my question I had here in Missouri is why is the MIAC headquarters, which is supposed to be under the direction of Highway Patrol, located on a military base?
00:29:35.000I haven't got an answer back to that question yet.
00:29:40.000It's just amazing that all of this is...
00:29:45.000is going on and obviously it's by military base because you can pull up in fact guys google this for everybody or startpage.com for everybody uh... if you can the term army liaison officers or or army officers and local police departments and you'll get hundreds of heads where they go all the army's just part of our department now representative guest have you heard
00:30:08.000The new report that's come out out of the Hill newspaper and out of the Progressive, that now the Army wants 400,000 troops on the streets of America to quote, deal with domestic extremists.
00:30:57.000very informative for the examiner.com chuck baldwin 2008 vp candidate castle testifies regarding my act and uh tony it's great to have you up with us thank you mr jones hello mr guest how are you i'm fine uh tell folks just from your perspective what you've seen at these hearings well um it's
00:31:20.000Obviously, the majority of the time was spent on the MIAC reports themselves, but it was pretty interesting what came out with Dr. Sissy Spraggan's testimony.
00:31:33.000And I got ahold of her last night and got her to elaborate a little bit more on what happened.
00:31:40.000So if you don't mind, I could go into that for just a minute.
00:31:56.000And just to be clear, she's under the impression that they were harmless, but her story, in my opinion, will kind of say otherwise.
00:32:06.000She basically said that they were trying to recruit them to cause trouble, and then she went on to say that You know, there's four or five of them, rather young, and that they were trying to get them to basically go and disrupt traffic.
00:32:30.000And that was one of the four things that that Army Defense report on Indefed, you know, to go out and spy in, that was one of the four things that said that they were trying to avoid.
00:32:46.000Yeah, and then that's always the blueprint.
00:32:47.000The Army says these may be terrorists and they try to block traffic.
00:32:56.000And we wrote a big story with all the declassified examples of the feds and the states doing this.
00:33:04.000We've got to have people at every event who Basically stake out these events to surveil the people who are surveilling or counter intelligence because if we just expose the police and the feds a few more times and start demanding some jail time because it's criminal to try to go out either with provocateurs or with feds themselves or agents themselves and try to get people to commit crimes that is a crime that is not just entrapment That is criminal.
00:33:34.000Representative Guest, I mean, it's one thing to ask somebody, hey, you want to buy some drugs?
00:33:38.000And, you know, courts have said that's bad, but not really illegal.
00:33:41.000But to go out and try to get people to commit crimes and try to lead people into crimes at political events so you can crack down on free speech, this is high treason.
00:33:51.000It is, and I was just looking at my notes here.
00:33:56.000When Sissy testified, she brought up the point that in the Department of Justice Training Manual, they call protesters low-level terrorists.
00:34:35.000In fact, guys, you can Google that, protesting low-level terror, or startpage.com, that, another great search engine, and pull that up for people, because folks need to see this for themselves.
00:34:49.000My point was, I think I asked her, I said, all these people protesting these rallies, the national health care plan, are they being classified as low-level terrorists?
00:34:57.000Basically, it's getting to the point that anybody who talks against the federal government or who protests or voices their displeasure in it are being classified as a terrorist or a threat to this nation or a threat to their government.
00:35:12.000You know, we're supposed to have a country that was based upon the freedom of speech and the freedom of expression without having any retribution taken against you.
00:35:47.000Yeah, it all, you know, really picked up steam back after 9-11 when Bush said, you're either with us or you're with the terrorists.
00:35:55.000And from then on, they kind of had an exclusive You know, deal with public opinion, and anybody who said anything outside of that was with the terrorists.
00:36:04.000And then now, unfortunately, President Obama has taken the hand off of Bush, and now anybody that's against their policies, you know, are racist or otherwise.
00:36:22.000You know, that's the point, is people can see how bad these Hit pieces are, and then they go and look otherwise.
00:36:30.000So I think it's kind of blowing up in our face.
00:36:36.000One thing that we're not getting was I was hoping the way these hearings would get more.
00:36:40.000Obviously, Alex, you're doing a great job here, but some of our local news media are not picking up on this.
00:36:46.000And I guess that's probably not too surprising that they don't want to.
00:36:53.000I don't want to put too much visibility on what we're doing here in the investigation, and the testimony is taking place, but I was hoping we would see more media, TV coverage, even newsprint coverage of these hearings that's going on.
00:37:06.000But it depends on whether they're told to cover it up and not make it public or not.
00:37:12.000But certainly, I and others that believe in the threat that's here are going to make it public.
00:38:41.000I mean, I showed up, you know, and some of my family said, well, do you think any of the media will be there?
00:38:47.000And, you know, I said, well, you know, there should be maybe a camera or two, you know, and I show up and I drove past the building because I didn't see any hoopla.
00:39:00.000And then it turns out that I was at the right place.
00:39:03.000I go in there, you know, I watch the hearings, I go home, do the report, and then when I wake up in the morning, you know, I see a couple letters in my email box wanting to know more information about the hearing because I was the only one that wrote an article about it, and that's, you know, the majority of the public fits in the categories of that report, and the only reason I went
00:39:29.000I wanted to go to these hearings, but I didn't know when they were, but thankfully you guys posted it on your InfoWars website last week, so I was able to go.
00:39:39.000I took a vacation day from my 9-to-5 job, went out there, covered it, and I'm glad to get the word out.
00:39:48.000Well, good job, sir, and we'll continue to watch the reports you're doing, and feel free to write great reports, to file reports for InfoWars.com.
00:39:57.000Just send those in to writers at InfoWars.com if you want us to publish your fine work.
00:40:02.000And, Representative Guest, as this continues, we'll keep checking in with you, but this isn't just a report demonizing patriots.
00:40:10.000This is about the federalization of police.
00:40:13.000Representative Charles Key of course of Oklahoma and others that I've had on from Oklahoma, when they just try to have state sovereignty declaration or when they say they're not they're going to follow the Bill of Rights, the state police, the local police show up And change the subject and say, don't you want to stop bank robberies?
00:40:40.000And so we have to understand that we need to start removing these police chiefs and sheriffs and other people that are singing to the wrong sheet of music.
00:41:13.000We had people that drove from Oklahoma to testify there in Kansas City, so if people want to become a part of it and provide their testimony, that'll be their next, in that part of the Absolutely, and call all the newspapers all over the country and say, why aren't you covering the secret police and the federalization?
00:41:30.000And the fact that the federal marshals say they're ordered to put innocent people in the databases under quotas, and there's no judge, no jury.
00:41:37.000Now they say no fly, you won't be able to buy a gun.
00:41:40.000This is all, I mean, we're all being put on list, folks, and if we let them have a chilling effect and shut us down, and cower us into shutting up, they win!
00:41:49.000That's why they're coming out and saying to criticize government is now racism.
00:41:52.000To say you don't want socialism is racism.
00:41:55.000I think I saw a new clip on the Alex Jones Channel this morning on YouTube of Chris Matthews.
00:42:00.000saying that if you criticize all the White House servants, you're racist.
00:42:05.000If you criticize big government, you're racist.
00:42:08.000They're using this as psychological weapon to say, don't you criticize big government, racist, thinking they can use white guilt to make you go, well, okay, I don't want to be called a racist.
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00:53:04.000And I'm somebody that criticizes that 20% of our kids and 18% of adults, and now the government wants, under drug company lobbying, to have 50%!
00:53:14.000And this guy just says, Jones makes things up, Jones, uh... You know, I almost can't even get into this because there's so much disinformation here.
00:53:26.000You know, Jones thinks there's FEMA camps.
00:53:28.000Jones thinks Halliburton's involved in child kidnapping.
00:54:44.000He just wanted to write an article to fill in the pages between drug ads.
00:54:50.000But the really sick part is the end where he says, That I'm basically calling for violence, but here we go.
00:54:59.000In his 1954 classic, The Paranoid Style in American Politics, historian Richard Hofstantner Hypothesize that conspiracy thinking is fueled by underlying feelings of alienation and helplessness.
00:55:15.000Well, why do the police have hundreds of thousands of charges of conspiracy every year?
00:55:19.000Conspiracy just means two people get together and have an agreed-upon plan.
00:55:23.000Government and corporations don't do that.
00:55:35.000New Mexico State University psychologist Maria Albanonia Papa has found that people who endorse conspiracy theories are especially likely to feel angry, mistrustful, alienated from society, and helpless over larger forces controlling their lives.
00:55:56.000Yeah, if you're awake and your kid got shot in the back by police or CPS took your kid, you know, you're going to be pissed off!
00:56:07.000And then, I mean, you heard the representative when they tried to have hearings about the MIAC report, they would go, we're not talking about the MIAC report.
00:56:14.000We're going to talk about stopping bank robbery.
00:56:16.000Let's not talk about conspiracy theories.
00:56:18.000I had the reporter in here yesterday and she said, I can't find the MIAC report about Ron Paul and Bubberspeakers.
00:56:24.000I flipped it open and said, right there, oh I didn't see that before.
00:56:27.000And she was thinking I hadn't read it or looked at it.
00:56:30.000I mean, you know, just because you say it isn't there, just because you say the moon is made of cheese doesn't make it so, folks.
00:56:39.000So I'll come back and finish up with this, but the end part.
00:56:43.000I mean, it's just, basically I am the new Helter Skelter.
00:56:50.000I'm the new You know, evil Charles Manson with an army of killers.
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01:01:05.000And it's just impossible to this guy that I had a great life.
01:01:09.000I mean, I grew up in a middle-class neighborhood on a golf course, and I, you know, dated cheerleaders and just went on camping trips.
01:01:19.000Other than getting a lot of fistfights and seeing a lot of weird stuff growing up, seeing the police being drug dealers, and that was on record, that the sheriff went to jail for it, I had a great childhood.
01:02:52.000When I asked if I might look them up, he became irritated.
01:02:57.000He doubted he could spell their names.
01:02:59.000And besides, well, no, I was thinking of the Raceler brothers, who I was really good friends with in Austin, who I lifted weights with three days a week and went deep-sea fishing with and camping.
01:03:10.000One of them is an engineer, the other is a... In fact, let's look up online right now, in front of everybody.
01:03:39.000He just wanted to make it sound like, oh, with any of my friends, I couldn't spell their names.
01:03:45.000See how this is, this is crazy mind games from flim-flam men who just want to, oh, look, the Chicago Business School, where the neocons came from.
01:03:55.000There's only drug ads in here except for a Chicago Business School ad.
01:04:01.000With a Straussian view of... And it goes on to say, uh... When I asked if I might look them up, he became irritated.
01:04:14.000He doubted he could spell their names.
01:04:16.000And besides, I'd already taken up too much of his time.
01:04:20.000I turned down 50 or 60 requests for interviews this week, which was true.
01:04:24.000The Obama deception had just come out.
01:04:26.000Usually we turn down I don't know, Deuce said three today, probably four or five more will come in by tomorrow, so let's say five a day.
01:04:34.000Five a day in a week is, uh, twenty-five, thirty, so I mean, do the math, what's seven times five?
01:04:41.000We're talking about thirty-five interviews.
01:04:43.000But back then, with the Obama deception peaking, yeah, it was... See, he doesn't understand that.
01:04:49.000He was saying I was lying about millions of views of the Obama deception until I made him go online See, that's what I mean.
01:04:56.000I mean, it's just they constantly spew their propaganda, which always turns out to be bull.
01:05:01.000We tell the truth and then we're getting attacked.
01:05:39.000Now, Black's the fake name of the pot-bellied Austin Chronicle guy who writes editorials saying that Sintra isn't a foreign-owned company taking over Texas roads.
01:05:57.000They have such contempt for you, they will tell you it's American-owned!
01:06:04.000Black contends that I have a messiah complex.
01:06:06.000Grandiosity is one of the defenses against underlying feelings of powerlessness.
01:06:13.000No, all I'm talking about is how powerful human beings are.
01:06:17.000Even well-grounded skeptics are prone to connect disparate dots when they feel disempowerment.
01:06:21.000I sent this guy link after link to government documents and UN documents on population reduction.
01:06:27.000I mean, here's eco-science calling for drugging the water, taking children at birth, reducing the world population written by the White House science czar.
01:07:15.000And I said, no, we were really being followed.
01:07:17.000And he just said, oh, you were imagining you were being followed.
01:07:20.000And I said, look, buddy, I had FBI guys come in and sit down to me next, at the hotel I was staying at, and ask if I wanted to attack the State Department.
01:07:54.000He believed I was just having a schizophrenic episode in an imaginary hotel.
01:07:58.000You know, just insanely thinking people were following me.
01:08:06.000Used to, they would just say Bilderberg didn't even exist.
01:08:10.000As he begins a telephone interview, the alarm bell goes off.
01:08:13.000The bastards have set this up, he says.
01:08:15.000Which, I had security walk up to me as I'm walking up from the restaurant eating, and they go, we don't like people setting off fire alarms.
01:09:17.000But see, it's good they're denying everything to this level because it's so asinine when they say none of this exists and then people find out it does.
01:09:25.000Just like Obama's people are saying there's no call for national compulsory service.
01:09:28.000George Soros funded Media Matters is attacking me saying it's not real.
01:09:33.000People then click on my site and see the video of Obama calling for it, and Rahm Emanuel calling for it.
01:09:39.000Jones says that he's even been visited by the FBI and Secret Service, but can't discuss the interviews.
01:09:46.000Well, since I did this interview three months ago, I now am not under federal gag order, and you can read the AP and Wired Magazine that the FBI and Secret Service were here for threats against government officials and police, and they subpoenaed the IP addresses and arrested the people.
01:10:27.000There's no reason to believe he is, but the same can't be said of his listeners.
01:10:31.000In 2002, Richard McCaslin, carrying an arsenal of weapons, entered the Bohemian Grove, a camping ground in California that annually hosts a meeting of the political and business elite.
01:10:40.000He told authorities he had been planning his commando raid for a year after he says hearing Jones claim that the ritual infant sacrifice was taking place there.
01:10:49.000He asked me about this and I said my film is on record that it's an effigy of a child and we've never said they're killing a real person.
01:10:59.000I explained McCaslin had been in the Marine Corps in Force Recon and was obviously out of his gourd and sending me weird hand-drawn comic books and that he'd worked at Six Flags playing the part of Spider-Man.
01:11:14.000And that he'd tried to come around and I'd refused to meet with him.
01:11:17.000He then moved out to California in what looked like a staged event in the middle of winter, dressed up with a bunch of weapons and went out there and set fire to a trash can and then waited for the police.
01:11:43.000In a video promoting Obama deception, Jones urges, we know who they are, we know what they are, we know what has to be done.
01:11:50.000Implying I'm calling for violence, when I was calling for political, peaceful action right after that in the film.
01:11:56.000A total deception from this piece of trash.
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01:15:57.000All right, he's with us in about 15 minutes in the next hour.
01:16:11.000Max, of course, is the inventor of the Hollywood Stock Exchange System.
01:16:19.000He's also a TV host on BBC, Russia Today, Press TV, three different TV shows this year, weekly TV shows.
01:16:28.000He also has a radio show in London, and he is a frequent guest here at Good old Infowars.com and on the radio show and I'm excited that Jesse Ventura's crew is also interviewing him coming up soon for the new TV show Conspiracy Theory that I'm also in and a consultant on.
01:16:49.000Show a lot going on and I'm glad I've been introduced to Max Keiser's big international audience and I'm excited to introduce him to our audience.
01:16:56.000I think it's a great event that's happening.
01:16:59.000This is a short segment, we'll come back in a long one and cover a lot of other issues, but commodities starting to go up, gold exploding, the media lying, saying the economy's good, underwear sales are up for men, they say that's always an indicator of an economy going up.
01:17:14.000What do you really see happening with this economy?
01:17:16.000I see the tens of trillions of dollars the banks have hoarded.
01:17:20.000starting to trickle out and cause some action but overall jobless rates uh unemployment uh the rust belt i mean the real economy what i see is falling apart what does max kaiser with all of his economic acumen and gravitas tell us the reason the underwear sales are up for men is because a lot of men are making doo-doo in their pants their economy is so bad oh i was gonna say that
01:17:48.000They got no job, they got no prospects, and they're incontinent.
01:17:52.000So they get out of the store and they buy some fresh underwear, but they can't keep in stock because the economy is so bad.
01:17:57.000You got a president who thinks he's starring in the West Wing Part II.
01:18:01.000We don't even think he knows he's the president.
01:18:03.000I think he's trying to get an Emmy Award.
01:18:05.000In four years' time, they're going to give him an Emmy Award.
01:18:07.000He won't even know he was in the White House.
01:18:10.000You've got the capitalism is failing, you've got systemic collapse, so naturally gold is pushing $1,000 again.
01:18:18.000And let's talk about gold for a second, Alex Jones, because I was in Germany making a film about gold at the Bundesbank, which is the central bank of Germany, which acts more or less as the central bank of Europe.
01:18:30.000We went in there, we talked to them about gold, and they told us that And I mentioned to them, I asked them, where is most of your gold?
01:18:37.000And they said, well, you know, our gold is held in New York.
01:18:39.000And this created a huge international uproar, which got the attention of a lot of gold.
01:18:46.000And again, that's just you as a real journalist asking a real question.
01:18:49.000Then you ask New York, and they say Germany's got our gold.
01:18:53.000Right, well, what's come out, and if you go to sites like the Gold Action Trust Action Committee and other sites that track the gold markets, Germany has been complicit in this scheme to keep the gold price down.
01:19:06.000And them, along with the Wall Street banks, they lease out or lend gold to be sold in the open market with a wink and a nod.
01:19:14.000And because they know that they're going to keep selling this market, this gold into the market, to force the price down, to give these banks easier, riskless profits as part of the collusion between the central banks and the Wall Street banks.
01:19:27.000So this so-called growth you're talking about is all based on market manipulation.
01:19:31.000These stocks like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and these other financial stocks are up big because basically it's the government buying stock for themselves.
01:19:39.000All those tarp funds and all those bailout funds that they were on the receiving end after Boston held Congress hostage, they now have to figure out how to launder that money, just like any mafia kingpin has to launder the money.
01:20:07.000Max, you said months ago, Bob Chapman said months ago, Ron Paul said months ago, all our experts here said the same thing.
01:20:14.000In fact, six months ago, people like Bob Chapman wrote it on record that That they would first run the market down to $6,000, then run it back up to $10,000, $11,000, $12,000, or even higher as a sucker's rally, and that they would do that by the big central banks, dumping all the money they'd stolen from taxpayers into the market, and that it was completely rigged, and that they would then plunge it even further.
01:20:40.000Is the plunging we're seeing the start of that, or is this just a hiccup?
01:20:44.000Will it continue to go up before they really rape the slaves?
01:20:48.000Look, the people are on the short end of the stick, and on your show, Alex, I have talked about the casino gulag economy, about the only way that they're going to keep these suckers rolling is to introduce more gambling in the United States, and sure enough, in Kansas, The Heartland of America just announced that they're going to start introducing gambling.
01:21:10.000Because there's no other way to stimulate the economy than vice.
01:21:13.000You know, the mafia makes tons of money selling gambling, sex, and money laundering and other, you know, murder for hire and these other activities.
01:21:22.000This is what the local government, the municipal government, the federal government knows.
01:21:25.000The only way to raise money is to get into the gambling business.
01:21:27.000So now Kansas is going to go gambling.
01:21:59.000Hello friends, this is Alex Jones, and I want each of you to ask yourself this question.
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01:25:15.000The Associated Press, and he sent me a bunch of other stories where everything's happening, now major states are going to own the casinos themselves.
01:25:24.000I mean, it's, or the government, same thing with Russia.
01:25:27.000The government is now just going to own all the vice.
01:25:30.000That's why they've always had laws against vice, so they can tax it and regulate it and control it.
01:25:35.000A license is something Is an authorization to do something that would be illegal.
01:25:40.000So owning a gun is illegal, having a car is illegal, if they make you get a license.
01:25:48.000But we're shifting towards this and continue Max Keiser.
01:25:54.000Yeah, in 1989, the Berlin Wall came down, and Yeltsin, who was then in charge, gave away all the industries to the Russian oligarchs.
01:26:03.000Now, in the United States, when the Glass-Steagall Wall came down, separating the banks and brokers, it took a few years, but now we see the results, plus a couple of other deregulatory moves that happened since then.
01:26:38.000I mean, you say the roads in Texas are run by a Spanish company.
01:26:41.000Of course the roads in Texas are run by a Spanish company.
01:26:44.000All the toll booth roads, all the bridges, all the ports are being sold off to foreign investors in exchange for these massive debts that have been run up for years, and there's no possible way to pay them back.
01:26:54.000The total debt and burden of the U.S. is now $70 trillion.
01:26:59.000The interest on that debt alone will never, ever be paid back, even if America puts in 100% of their income as a tax for 10, 20, 30 years.
01:27:08.000You know, they're never going to pay it back.
01:27:10.000So the U.S. is left to give foreign creditors more and more of America's infrastructure, all of its, you know, what some call selling the cow and then buying the milk.
01:27:20.000Okay, so America's giving away their toll roads, giving away their ports, giving away their infrastructure, selling it on the cheap, basically in exchange for debt forgiveness.
01:27:27.000And now America's got to pay through the nose to be on their own property, to pay on their own rents.
01:27:32.000They're going to be paying foreign creditors.
01:27:34.000And that deal in Texas for the Texas roads is just one example of a trend going coast to coast.
01:27:39.000In California, the economy is technically bankrupt and they're giving away and selling huge portions of that economy to foreign creditors.
01:27:46.000as is happening all over the United States, because the U.S. isn't too much in debt, and nobody in government is saying that the U.S. has to get off its debt addiction, which brings me to a very interesting topic, which I want to get into, which is this whole health care debate, you know, and it's an interesting debate because basically you know, and it's an interesting debate because basically it pits two forces in the American economy against each other.
01:28:09.000There are those in the economy that want to charge monopoly pricing for healthcare.
01:28:14.000That's the oligarchs, which include the insurance company.
01:28:17.000And then the other side of the coin is, well, there's a possibility of paying competitive prices for health care.
01:28:23.000That is that people in America would pay a competitive price.
01:28:27.000There would be free competition in the health business and the insurance industry, so the consumer would benefit from competition.
01:28:32.000But this debate under Obama's watch, and he's been completely asleep on this, is allowing the oligarchs to say, no, no, what's best for America is the oligarch monopoly pricing.
01:29:16.000And he pooh-poohed any idea that Americans should get any kind of decent health care.
01:29:20.000If Whole Foods stock, because of this boycott, which is mounting and gaining speed all over America, on Facebook and Twitter and all these social networking sites, the boycott is exploding.
01:29:29.000If we can get the share price of Whole Foods down to below $1 a share, it's currently at $28 a share.
01:29:37.000If the boycott can get big enough to drive the share price to less than $1, then my guys in London are prepared to give $1 million away to victims of the American health industry, to America directly.
01:29:49.000So, you know, my message to people in America who are complaining about the health care situation, do something about it.
01:30:44.000So when we hear this healthcare debate, all Obama's doing is trying to give liability protection to insurance companies, HPOs, and big medical firms, and has nothing to do with even socialized healthcare, whether you're for that or against it.
01:31:37.000Most of these big dental offices now that are big chains only take what they call capitation.
01:31:46.000And that means that big companies come in and pay a company millions of dollars to say they'll take people on their plan, but then you get reduced care when you come in for it.
01:31:54.000So Max Keiser, what I'm trying to say here to you, and my question is, what are we dealing with here?
01:32:13.000When Cheney came into office in 2000, they had that secret meeting with Enron and the whole industry, and they wrote America's energy policy, which included, by some accounts, invading other countries.
01:33:01.000So the reform we hear we're getting, either way, the Republican version is one monopoly.
01:33:07.000the Democratic version is another monopoly.
01:33:10.000Either way, no matter what you call for, it's going to be written by the lobbyists and going to be something completely different.
01:33:16.000That's why I say we want nothing out of government.
01:33:19.000We ought to pay him just to stop writing laws!
01:33:22.000Okay, so listen, if we're saying that soliciting the government and petitioning the government is a waste of time, then, you know, we can agree that that's probably true.
01:33:32.000And what I'm suggesting is that anyone in the country, in the United States, who wants to push back in a meaningful way, if you boycott this company, Whole Foods, to sufficient, to drive the stock price down to below a dollar a share, my guys in London are prepared to give a million dollars my guys in London are prepared to give a million dollars in cash to the victims of Americans' health care That means they'll all get one dollar a piece.
01:33:56.000Well, first of all, it shows that the people have the ability to push back.
01:34:01.000Okay, well, Max, flesh this out here, because you've never done anything like this on my show before.
01:34:13.000Isn't it possible, Max, that he just disagreed with the government takeover, and that certainly was in the bill, of healthcare?
01:34:24.000And he's saying people should just be healthier.
01:34:26.000I mean, and we should eat healthier food, which I think is important.
01:34:30.000I mean, I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but I'm not sure where this is going.
01:34:35.000I mean, if they're able to bully, because the same George Soros outfits that are bullying, you know, everybody else about free speech and saying, if you disagree with Obama, you're a racist.
01:34:46.000The same crew is saying, destroy whole foods.
01:34:52.000We know that corporations, they're all connected to the banking industry, including Whole Foods, it's a $4 billion company.
01:34:58.000He's out there trying to parse his words and play both sides of the fence, and he's playing to an institutional investor audience, he's also playing to a retail audience.
01:35:08.000I'm saying that we can agree that the government is not there, who's going to step up to the plate for the people.
01:35:12.000The people have the ability to Okay, he's probably listening right now.
01:35:17.000Okay, he's probably listening right now.
01:35:20.000They're prepared to get a million dollars to the victims of the American health industry.
01:35:24.000You know, if they can get that stock price to below a buck a share.
01:35:56.000But is that what he said in the Wall Street Journal?
01:35:57.000like him get up and and and and positive that americans should deserve health care cheap at a price that they can afford it's absolutely unconscionable is that what he said in the wall street journal i mean he was saying he didn't like this obama plan that was written by special interest well i'm saying he's been happy to pay me on my show okay i I don't want to put you in the middle, okay?
01:36:20.000Have him come on my show, and I'll play him.
01:36:22.000I'll rip him apart, you know, verbally, on my show.
01:36:26.000But I'm saying that if the people out there want to push back against what they consider to be a corporate-controlled policy, that they're the victim of.
01:37:17.000I don't have a dog in the fight with Whole Foods.
01:37:19.000I shop there sometimes and read what the guy said and I see this bullying going on where I have media matters saying I'm a liar, there is no plan for forced national service.
01:37:34.000Now, you're an informed guy, you know they've introduced the bills, you know Rahm Emanuel's called for that.
01:37:45.000All they're doing is they're just trying to play out the clock.
01:37:47.000They want to get rid of Obama and bring in, you know, God forbid, who knows, Dick Cheney again.
01:37:52.000They're just trying to marginalize Obama for as long as they possibly can.
01:37:55.000And the United States people need to realize this is probably the last 36 months they'll have, you know, as your film talks about fall of the republic.
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01:46:05.000I'm looking at the Fall of the Republic article that Paul Watson wrote.
01:46:18.000It says personalities will appear in the movie.
01:46:20.000Gerald Cilente, Alan Watt, Jesse Ventura, climatologist Tim Ball, economist John Perkins, Oath Keepers, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, Webster Darbly, Bob Bowman, Wayne Madsen, George Humphrey.
01:46:32.000We need Max Keiser in there, so please ask him to add Max Keiser.
01:46:35.000And there's a bunch of other people, too, who are in the film, and so yes, Max is in the Max is in the trailer.
01:47:24.000I was on your show last time and I mentioned the site and I want you to go on the site And open an account, it takes 30 seconds, and you list a movie that you're trying to raise money for from the pirates.
01:47:41.000So, you say, let's say you need $50,000 for a film, you get people to give you $5 today, and then when you go make your film, you deliver a copy of the film.
01:47:52.000But not only do they get a copy of the film, but you cut them in to any advertising that you might get from your film.
01:48:06.000So your film, For All the Republic, which is coming out on October 21, which I'll be talking about on international markets and various outlets all over the world, you know, that film is going to get 20, 30, 40 million views.
01:48:19.000Now, if you all had shared in the financing of that film with your listeners, they would get some of that advertising money back to them at piratemyfilm.com.
01:48:31.000I realize it might not be as sexy as a garden at a camp, but it's the joint!
01:49:00.000You know, by the way, also, let me make this point about You, is that you're entirely financed by cash, and you don't actually use any debt financing.
01:49:11.000So when people come against Alex Jones, they've got to realize that because you're honest about the banking system, you know, you can't go down to Wall Street and get a $10 or $15 or $20 million loan to build a movie studio.
01:49:22.000You've got to do it the old school way.
01:49:24.000You've got to get listers one by one by one, cash, money bombs, any way you can do it.
01:49:42.000You think Citibank or JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs are going to loan Alex Jones $50 million to make movies with what we say about them on your show?
01:49:52.000So PirateMyFilm.com, it says, to hell with the studio financing, to hell Well, something you talk about is, we could pre-sell product placement in our films, but then we couldn't sell very much.
01:50:10.000We have to sell it for a lot, you know, for what it cost us, because we do implant in the web versions some ads to try to get some of the money back.
01:50:21.000Yeah, well the reason we have had success is our great listeners buy the videos, buy the books at InfoWars.com, and they're pretty low budget.
01:50:28.000I mean, my biggest budget film, which is Fall of the Republic, is going to be about $160,000, $170,000, and most films cost $100,000.
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01:51:57.000All right, Max Keiser is our guest for another 15 Max Keiser is our guest for another 15 minutes.
01:52:19.000Then we've got Wayne Madsen coming on.
01:52:21.000Max, I wanted to get into some other subjects here.
01:52:26.000You heard me, when you were on hold for a few minutes, getting into psychology today, attacking me.
01:52:32.000And, I mean, it is whole cloth baloney.
01:52:36.000It implies I'm estranged from my parents, that I know no one, that I'm a liar, that I'm delusional, that I'm calling for people to carry out acts of violence.
01:52:47.000I mean, the system, don't they understand they're discrediting themselves just with their wholesale lying?
01:52:55.000Well, you know, psychiatrists, remember Hannibal Lecter was a psychiatrist, so that's about as credible a representation of that industry as you're going to find.
01:53:04.000Anybody who listens to the psychiatry industry might as well be going on a date with Hannibal Lecter.
01:53:10.000Well, I mean, this whole thing is an ad for mind-altering drugs.
01:53:16.000The editor's note, the editor looks like she's had her soul sucked out here.
01:53:22.000I just get amazed by people this deceptive.
01:53:28.000Just a crew of, talk about piratical people.
01:53:33.000Do you agree with me that it really has become just a ruling class that wants to say everybody's mentally ill so they can manage their lives and force drug us in a THX113A, 1138 system?
01:53:44.000Look, the oligarchy we talked about before, and it extends to these right industries, and the health industry and the drug industry is an industry that's being allowed to write policies for their own benefit.
01:53:55.000And if they've got psychiatrists and psychoanalysts, remember, in the torture in Guantanamo Bay and these other areas in Iraq and Afghanistan, The American Psychiatric Association was actually having people there oversee the torture.
01:54:07.000They were actually witnessing the torture.
01:54:21.000And obviously they have an interest in selling drugs and to keep people as mentally unstable and as, you know, Incapable of forming rational thought and opinions as possible.
01:54:33.000So, you know, to be, again, to be criticized by them, it only means you're doing the right thing.
01:54:37.000Of course you're going to attract attention from that industry, because what you're saying is going to possibly take people off drugs, and that would cut into their profits.
01:54:45.000So, of course you're going to be attacked.
01:54:47.000I mean, I don't know why you spend more than five seconds on it.
01:54:49.000Those people are just front men and pitch men for the drug industry.
01:54:53.000If someone's listening to this show, they're not on mind-altering substances, It's because you have shown them the way toward a free thought environment that doesn't need to be told by the drug industry what to think.
01:55:10.000Anytime you cut into the industry's profits, you're going to be targeted by that industry.
01:55:15.000If you come out and say that the banking industry is holding Congress hostage for a bailout, then the banking industry is going to come out and smear you publicly.
01:55:24.000When I last time I did this campaign against Coca-Cola two years ago, the one I just described to you with Whole Foods, we got this guy All over America, they wrote a smear campaign.
01:55:33.000If you look it up, Coca-Cola, Hedge Fund, you'll see that they were calling me all kinds of vicious names because I was actually threatening their profit centers.
01:55:40.000If you threaten their profit centers, and their profit centers are all based on monopoly profits and oligarchical profits, they're going to come after you.
01:55:49.000But as long as you people are supporting cash on cash, Yeah, it's just creepy to have George Soros and the Republicans and Psychology Today and the Wall Street Journal and just all attacking me, and I know it's because we're having success.
01:56:01.000Yeah, it's just creepy to have George Soros and the Republicans and Psychology Today and the Wall Street Journal and just all attacking me.
01:56:12.000And I know it's because we're having success.
01:56:34.000In other words, if enough people boycotted Whole Foods to drive the stock price down, George Soros would be selling short Whole Foods for us.
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02:00:41.000But, you know, it's going to... As I said, the point is that people can... It's the Pirate Futures market.
02:00:48.000You can raise money for independent films.
02:00:51.000And you can do so by sharing the revenues of pirate yield, pirate sales, as we were just talking about, with the people who are helping you finance the film.
02:01:00.000You know, Hollywood is another monopoly in America that is not doing anybody any good.
02:01:06.000Yeah, the only problem with your model is all these weasels out there will say they're part of your film now.
02:01:14.000That's why I couldn't be part of something like that, at least in your early stages, because people would come invest in it just to claim they had a stake in it to mess it up.
02:01:24.000I mean, have you ever dealt with infiltration, Max?
02:01:26.000Oh yeah, but let me explain something to you.
02:01:27.000First of all, these are not investments, okay?
02:02:16.000Okay, in the few minutes we've got left with you, briefly, because I respect your opinion on this, what do you see happening in the next month, two months, five months, six months, a year, with the economy, as people see that Main Street is still collapsing at an accelerated rate, while the media says Green shoots, Valhalla, Stock market up!
02:02:40.000The deleveraging is the word to keep in mind.
02:02:44.000Deleveraging is the term used to describe banks that need to get rid of their bad assets.
02:02:51.000And the banks have many, many more trillions of dollars worth of bad assets than the trillions of dollars that the government is throwing at the banks.
02:03:02.000Now, in 2008, for example, You had a lot of people on your show who talked about inflation, because they said that the government was going to throw trillions and trillions of dollars at these bad banks, and that trillions of dollars were going to enter the economy in the form of price inflation.
02:03:17.000Because the amount of trillions of dollars that have been thrown at the banks is not as great as the many, many trillions of dollars of bad, toxic debt that have yet to be revealed.
02:03:28.000The net result of that is actually, in 2008, had been Deflation, you know, shockingly enough.
02:03:35.000The good news about deflation, by the way, is that gold bullion does well in both deflation and inflation.
02:03:41.000It does well during extreme economic stress periods, and that's the play for gold bullion.
02:03:47.000Forget about gold bullion in terms of an inflation play or deflation play.
02:03:51.000Think about it in terms of an economic systemic banking failure play, and that is yet to be played out.
02:03:56.000The banking sector has yet to collapse due to the implosion of hundreds of trillions of dollars of derivatives and bad debt.
02:04:05.000And the fact that simply by Obama putting a few band-aids over the situation, the Cash for Clunkers scheme, all that does is defer the problem.
02:04:15.000You know, people who owned a car outright for cash now have a monthly car payment.
02:04:21.000So all they did was increase the debt.
02:04:24.000They tried to solve that by increasing the debt.
02:04:27.000So the debt payment is still very high.
02:04:29.000The global creditors are still looking to America.
02:04:31.000I think the trend for Americans is that they have to understand that the U.S. government is forced to sell off more and more of the American infrastructure.
02:04:39.000Tolls, roads, as you find in Texas, that you talked about in your show, ports, and other vital infrastructure has to be sold to foreigners to forgive the debt, which means that the Americans are going to be living in a country that they themselves do not own.
02:04:55.000But then meanwhile, Cintra came in through its Zachary Australian arm and bought up over 100.
02:05:03.000It was 144 local newspapers on the Trans-Texas Corridor routes to shut them down from criticizing.
02:05:33.000Not equal access, but there was a law a while ago, balance-access or equal access, you probably know the phrase, what I'm trying to think of.
02:05:42.000It's when both, you know, they got rid of it under Reagan, when both sides were given the chance to comment on a topic, and then Let me make another point.
02:05:54.000I forget what it is, but Reagan got rid of this because basically he's kowtowing to the media industry.
02:06:03.000How come you're not getting subsidies and payments from guys like Glenn Beck, who simply take your emotion that you have demonstrated you can have on a public media platform and then use it to sell his agenda?
02:06:19.000He should be paying you a monthly residual on basically what you pioneered, which is this very on-the-sleeve, overt, emotional type of presentation that Glenn Beck simply has stolen, and he uses it to put forward the Fox News agenda.
02:06:46.000Well I tell you this in closing Max and I can't wait to get you back up with us and also be on your new TV show that I have talked to people at Fox and they admit that they are imitating us they are copying us on their internet shows they're even using the same video backgrounds we use it's very bizarre and Beck does do a copy of me but then he twists it
02:07:09.000Yeah, exactly, because they, in other words, you pioneered this entire space of user-supported films and documentaries that go on the internet.
02:07:19.000You have a way of doing your show, which Glenn Beck tries to imitate, but push the Fox agenda, which is completely dubious and false and counter to what you're talking about.
02:07:28.000They even use the same video filter for guests that we first used.
02:07:34.000You can sue Glenn Beck for defamation or for whipping you off from trying to quote You know, the guys should be paying you cloning fees every month.
02:07:42.000You know, the boxers want to get their own shows and their own presenters.
02:07:45.000Why do they have to rip off Alex Jones?
02:07:55.000And, you know, Jesse Ventura, let's face it, his new show, it's going to be a great show, I'm sure, but who pioneered the way for that show?
02:08:34.000He didn't know he'd been pitched my show.
02:08:37.000Uh, they pitched him a new show, uh, and they changed the name to Conspiracy Theory, and now they have changed it the way Jesse had the idea of he'll go out and judge Conspiracy Theory.
02:08:47.000So, it's not really, but the zenith of it was that.
02:08:50.000And that's what's scary, is to realize that I have trailblazed and pioneered unknowingly.
02:08:56.000So much of what's happened, but you've also pioneered a lot of media activism and ideas in your own right.
02:09:02.000I think that's a message to everybody else that they can pioneer new ideas and new thoughts by just getting out there and doing it.
02:09:10.000Yeah, well the pioneers are the ones with the arrows in their back.
02:09:15.000You know, the Pioneers, they go across the country and they open it up to trailblazers for the rest of the country.
02:09:20.000You know, they're the ones that get the arrows in the back.
02:09:22.000They're the ones that die on the trail, you know.
02:09:24.000And then the people who come later say, oh, this is great.
02:09:27.000But unfortunately, as a Pioneer, I have no choice and I can't, I just can't stay static and watch these lame mimics and clowns and ne'er-do-wells over there at Fox News and these other media outlets continue to rip people off and serve it up with their monopoly pricing schemes and they infiltrate the news, they don't give any kind of balanced reporting whatsoever.
02:09:48.000They are responsible for the health catastrophe and the war catastrophe and the banking catastrophe.
02:09:59.000This guy is a financial terrorist, James Kramer!
02:10:02.000Think of all the money he's blown out of people's accounts, going on TV every day, dancing and... When I was a stockbroker in 1982, okay?
02:10:09.000It was illegal to put a color photograph in a perspective, because they thought it was too enticing.
02:10:14.000Here we are, 2009, and James Kramer's practically doing a strip team.
02:10:19.000No, no, he gets you all emotional and it's mad money, but it's like it's Crazy Eddie or something.
02:10:32.000But let me ask you this in closing, and then we've got Wayne Madsen coming up with some breaking news on the CIA, always breaking big news.
02:10:40.000When do you see the sucker rally ending, then, if it is a sucker rally?
02:11:04.000If you want to get actively involved in this market, do what I'm telling you, which is to get involved in this boycott Whole Foods and encourage George Soros and his other hedge funds to sell short Whole Foods and to drive that stock price down to below a buck a share.
02:11:17.000And I've got people in London with a million bucks to give to the victims of America's health care industry based on that stock price going to below a dollar share.
02:11:23.000And what, you have an article with the details of what you're talking about at MaxKeyser.com?
02:11:27.000It'll be, basically it's the same thing I did two years ago at Coca-Cola.
02:11:31.000If you look up Max Keiser Coca-Cola and the Carna Bank Hedge Fund.
02:11:36.000So you haven't even put this out in press release yet.
02:11:44.000Hey Max, let me see you by the theater in the break.
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02:16:35.000But I originally wanted to get him on when we called him.
02:16:38.000late last week, he said he was in the CIA archives and their archives couldn't come on then, was about his reports that are now coming out mainstream news that the makers of the vaccine won't take it, the doctors won't take the flu vaccine, but they want us to take it.
02:16:53.000And of course, he originally broke that it was man-made.
02:16:55.000Other virologists and scientists have now concurred with that.
02:17:41.000We're seeing directives coming out of various state governments, for example, that are talking exactly about things like forced quarantines and forced vaccinations.
02:17:53.000We had Governor Schwarzenegger basically Sounded very dire warning about the number one in four people in California could get this flu and the chief epidemiologist for the state of Minnesota is talking about similar numbers in Minnesota and so now we have state officials Sounding this very severe alarm bell.
02:18:23.000We saw President Obama urge people to get the H1N1 vaccine.
02:18:29.000I think it would be interesting to find out if he is going to take it and he's going to have it administered to his two girls and Michelle.
02:18:37.000Yeah, will his two girls get all three of the shots that Dr. Obama wants us to take?
02:18:44.000Well, listen, if there was anyone in the White House press corps that had any you-know-what, they would ask that question.
02:18:52.000But don't hold your breath on that because this White House press corps has shown itself to be totally compliant with all their puffball questions.
02:19:02.000You're talking about a huevos free environment?
02:19:08.000Well, I'll tell you that what I'm hearing about the vaccine, and this actually is coming, in one case somebody who was very instrumental in developing the smallpox vaccine is saying that he's not going to take this particular vaccine.
02:19:23.000He's urging his family and his friends not to take it either.
02:19:29.000Well, I mean, what we've got in vaccines, and I know that even NBC's Dateline, the other night, ran a story on the danger of vaccines, especially with the issue of autism, with this ingredient called thimerosal, which is one-half mercury, and also these
02:19:54.000These are what's thought to have caused the Gulf War syndrome in the troops during Desert Storm who were administered vaccines, I would say.
02:20:03.000I would note also against their will, of course, if you're in the military, they say they own you 24 hours a day, and we saw that appear terribly in the ailments of some of our returning troops from Desert Storm.
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02:25:14.000But I want Paul to also add the history of psychiatry and psychology with Hitler, the Soviets, and of course the Communist Chinese.
02:25:23.000And I want to put in there what Kaiser mentioned about how it was psychologists and psychiatrists that ran the torture, including in the Army's report, raping the children.
02:25:34.000So let's make sure that we show that this system works for the globalists.
02:25:40.000I mean, it's nothing but a group of high priests that What do you think of this move to list, and that's what they do, psychology today, hit piece labels, conspiracy thinking as psychotic illness, talks about how we're potentially violent and dangerous, says right here that it's dopamine levels, that we're borderline schizophrenic.
02:26:01.000You know, we're so insane we're hearing choo-choo trains in the background.
02:26:24.000Well, I ran a story not long ago about the National Security Agency, and I've been writing about how people that work there have been subjected to psychological and psychiatric abuse by the medical department there as a way to basically pull their clearances if they're considered not to be working within the system.
02:26:45.000And recently I found out that the NSA security, which is called the Q Group, And NSA Medical are working together now prescribing what they call Happy Pills.
02:26:55.000This is Prozac and Zoloft for employees who show that they're not toeing the line.
02:27:02.000So here we have another example of what can only be described as how the Soviet Union handled dissidents.
02:27:09.000They had these psychushka psychiatric hospitals.
02:27:13.000If you were against the Soviet system, they thought you were crazy and they would put you in a psychiatric hospital.
02:27:19.000Now we see that happening here within some of our own intelligence agencies.
02:27:24.000Well, it was, I mean, watching documentary films and reading history books about Nazi Germany, most of the tyranny from '33 to '38, before they really started the big official camps, was psychiatry, and it was merged with eugenics, and they were was psychiatry, and it was merged with eugenics, and they were the ones that would come and take your kids and raise them in government They were the ones that would come take your kid who had a problem and then euthanize them.
02:27:50.000And I would bring this up, I mean I brought up the famous inventor of lobotomies, how he would do public lobotomies with an ice pick, and he just said that's not true, and I...
02:28:00.000In fact, search engine startpage.com or Google or whatever for people right now on screen.
02:28:13.000And I even gave this to him and he would just giggle and say I was crazy on the other end of the phone.
02:28:18.000I mean, who are these people, Wayne Madsen?
02:28:20.000Are they like on power trips and they love going in and having women come into them and lay down, you have mental illness, I'll help you.
02:28:29.000It sounds just like a Svengali con artist guild.
02:28:33.000Well, when we look at this CIA report on how they treated the detainees with prolonged diapering, extended nudity, you have to wonder what kind of perverts, and I think that's where this investigation is going.
02:28:53.000When you look at what these two individuals, I won't call them gentlemen because they're not gentlemen by any stretch, but when you look at what these two individuals were involved in, Libby writing a novel about turn-of-the-century Japan in the early 20th century where there's references to bestiality and pedophilia, and we know about, you know, Dick Cheney had a predilection for some of the
02:29:17.000escorts provided to Halliburton by Kamala Martin & Associates, which was run by the late Deborah Jean Calfrey.
02:29:24.000I think we're getting to the actual crux of what the last administration was all about.
02:29:33.000We just search engine lobotomy with ice pick, and you can click on it and watch photos and videos of him ramming the ice pick into the corner of the eye, into the skull with pleasure.
02:29:45.000And I was sending this NPR article, NPR, and he just laughed.
02:29:51.000I mean, it's funny that they're this psychotic guild out enjoying itself, having its way with everyone, and the New Freedom Initiative wants to drug half of the school children in America.
02:30:04.000I mean, that came out in mainstream news, and I would bring that up and he would just laugh.
02:30:11.000And I don't think they realize their mind games aren't working with us anymore, Wayne.
02:30:16.000No, definitely not, and I think, you know, that's why I think what we're seeing now, stuff come out of the White House talking about shutting down the Internet if there's a national emergency.
02:30:27.000Obviously, there's no interest in having information available when you've got people like this with their agendas running the show.
02:30:39.000Well, Wayne, let's get into some other issues here.
02:30:46.000What do you call it where the mainstream media will say we're setting up a world government to be run by private banks and it's going to be a planetary regime and we're going to drug your water and then we read it and then they write articles saying we're insane it doesn't exist in sometimes the same publications a month later.
02:31:06.000I mean is that double speak, double think?
02:31:11.000Well, I think it's a second approach to creating conflict, creating chaos, constant chaos.
02:31:18.000When you have constant chaos, of course, people can take advantage of that situation.
02:31:22.000And we've seen that happen time and time again.
02:31:24.000I'm actually sitting across From the CBS News Bureau here in Washington right now, that's why you're hearing the traffic noise.
02:31:31.000But I mean, if you talk to these journalists individually, those who are left, who haven't been laid off with this downturn in the economy and this extreme change in how news is covered in the United States, you talk to them individually, they know these things, but they'll never get it through the producers and the editors to get it on the air on the major news networks.
02:31:57.000Yeah, all that's left now is a really seedy guild of mercenary media people who will just do whatever they're told.
02:32:07.000And I think that's only going to accelerate the discrediting of them quicker.
02:32:12.000Because these are such lazy hit pieces they do on the freedom movement.
02:32:17.000I mean, don't they understand this is only confirming to everyone just how scum-filled they are?
02:32:24.000Well, I think it gets to this whole idea of the elitism.
02:32:30.000You've got all the major networks now controlled by big corporations, and it's this ivory tower approach.
02:32:39.000I cover the news inside the Beltway, but the term inside the Beltway has always been used to describe this sort of incestuous relationship Politicians, journalists, and others, what they call quote-unquote movers and shakers, have in this town.
02:32:55.000And obviously if you're reading from something that isn't part of the official script, you're always criticized and made fun of and intimidated.
02:33:05.000Well, I'm also seeing this drumbeat against myself and other activists that were violent and were calling for violence, even though I'm calling for the opposite.
02:33:16.000Within hours of Poplowski doing what he did, the Southern Poverty Law Center said it was my fault.
02:33:24.000Some of the Soros people now coming out and saying Obama is not calling for national service and I'm a dangerous liar.
02:33:31.000Why am I, because I know this happens to you too, but I mean really it's happening bad now and I'm wondering if in your expertise you think they're building up to something.
02:33:39.000Because in my experience, they demonize you just to demonize you and discredit you, or they demonize you in preparation for something else, and I hope that's not what it is.
02:33:47.000False charges, my murder, whatever the case may be.
02:33:50.000And whatever the case is, I'm ready for it, and this is the path I'm on, and it's an honor to fight these people.
02:33:55.000But why do you think they're really coming after me right now?
02:34:00.000Well, as I say, we've always had an element of this in the past, where journalists who didn't fall into line were criticized, and certainly Jack Anderson faced a lot of that criticism.
02:34:14.000IF Stone, as he's known, faced that criticism, and others.
02:34:17.000But now we're seeing with this conglomeration of the media, the corporate media, having a lot more power to demonize those who basically call them out on how they cover these stories.
02:34:30.000And certainly we see that time and time again.
02:34:33.000And as you say, you know, months later, for example, NBC Dayline is reporting that the vaccines, all vaccines may not be safe.
02:34:44.000They featured this man, Dr. Wakefield, who has been criticized by his peers, who said, look, you know, these vaccines have to be looked at.
02:34:52.000I haven't done all the research, but the research should be conducted and we should have, you know, an independent verification by professionals as to whether these vaccines are, in fact, safe.
02:35:05.000Well, that's the thing is they're now admitting Gardasil's killing a bunch of people and that in flu vaccine trials in Europe, it's killed a bunch of people.
02:35:13.000I got that wrong and flipped it to Texas.
02:35:15.000They were worried in Texas, but the deaths are in Europe.
02:35:22.000I mean, I'm just wondering where all this is going, because there seems to be a crisis in confidence, and instead of the establishment being more truthful, they're now more and more just intensifying the lying, or they're talking out of both sides of their mouths, almost like they're committing suicide politically in front of us.
02:35:41.000Well, as I say, the poop will be in the pudding.
02:35:45.000If the people who are suggesting that we all take the vaccine for H1N1, if they really feel that way, let's see them be the first in line when these vaccines are available and are being administered.
02:35:59.000Let's see whether Schwarzenegger is the first one to get the vaccine in Sacramento and whether President Obama is on camera showing him getting it and his family.
02:36:10.000But if we don't see that, obviously, we're not going to believe politicians, especially when your health, your very life may be at risk.
02:36:18.000Well, Wayne, I don't believe anything they said.
02:36:21.000They could take a shot of saline solution.
02:36:22.000They've been caught doing similar stunts in the past.
02:37:13.000Then I tied that into UPI, AP, Jerusalem Post, 2003, Israel bragging, we got hit teams even in America.
02:37:21.000So a lot of this is from the hit teams themselves.
02:37:24.000And then Merck putting out in federal documents that they have hit teams, quote, liquidating doctors in a seek-and-destroy program.
02:37:32.000And then Merck says, oh, that's just a joke we give to these mercenaries.
02:37:40.000You were one of the first people to break this.
02:37:42.000A, what was your intel on that if you can tell us?
02:37:46.000And then B, it appears we just uncovered like the very tip of the iceberg and it's this huge archipelago or constellation of murder gangs.
02:37:57.000And I was watching congressional hearings yesterday with all this starting to come out.
02:38:01.000I mean, my God, it looks like it was worse than we even thought.
02:38:05.000I'll tell you one thing that surprised me.
02:38:07.000I never thought that Blackwater was as close to the CIA as we now know it was, that they got these sole-source contracts that, first of all, engage in covert actions around the world, that they were using foreign mercenaries to conduct targeted assassinations, and they were using U.S. retired U.S. military personnel to do the same thing.
02:38:29.000The reason I say that is because we were told that there was a major difference of opinion between Donald Rumsfeld when he was Secretary of Defense and the person in charge of the Counterterrorism Center at CIA, Cope for Black, who, by the way, then went after he attended the State Department.
02:38:47.000He went to work for Blackwater's intelligence gathering arm.
02:38:54.000Now we see with Buzzy Cronegard, the Executive Director at the CIA, leaves the CIA and winds up on the advisory board for Blackwater.
02:39:03.000His brother, Cookie Cronegard, is the Inspector General of the State Department, basically covering up All the Blackwater contracts in the Malpies in that state.
02:39:14.000We know that other CIA officials went to work for Blackwater.
02:39:18.000I guess the biggest surprise was the initial reports were that there was this schism between the Pentagon and the CIA, but now we know that that was probably just a mere turf battle.
02:39:29.000It had nothing to do with the use of Blackwater whatsoever.
02:39:32.000So, so how much murdering is going on?
02:39:35.000Because they admit it was Cheney's enemies, not just, quote, Al-Cieda.
02:39:43.000Well, when I first heard about George Tenet's attack matrix, worldwide attack matrix, I was looking and I was told by sources close to the CIA that they said, look, it's not just Iraq and Yemen and Afghanistan are targeting people.
02:40:00.000They told me about politicians in Lebanon being targeted, people with various human rights movements and successionist movements from Indonesia to Columbia also being targeted.
02:40:14.000So this, in fact, was what Tenet told all the members of the Cabinet and President Bush's senior advisors at Camp David just a few days after 9-11.
02:40:25.000It was, in fact, a worldwide attack matrix.
02:40:27.000And when you've got a sociopath like Dick Cheney sitting there basically calling the shots, it was get-even time, obviously, for him and his closest advisors.
02:40:40.000From the MO we've got, from when Rumsfeld brought in Cheney during Ford, as you know, that it's really Rumsfeld is the one, even through the last administration, that was really the real president.
02:40:52.000People say it was Cheney But in that weird relationship, do you agree that Rumsfeld was actually above him?
02:41:01.000Well, this was a mentoring type relationship that they had.
02:41:05.000These two individuals are like, you know, frick and frack when it comes to modern American politics.
02:41:13.000And certainly, you know, it was Cheney that was very upset when Bush, I guess, listened to his daddy and said, look, it's time to get rid of Rumsfeld.
02:41:22.000And Cheney was very much opposed to that as much as he was against Bush's decision, not to pardon Scooter Libby.
02:41:31.000I think we see what the network was that committed these war crimes.
02:41:37.000But is Rumsfeld at the top of the Cheney pyramid, or is Cheney there?
02:41:41.000I think, you know, you'd have to separate these two guys with a crowbar.
02:41:47.000I think basically they're almost like brothers in arms.
02:41:52.000Certainly Rumsfeld in the Ford administration was the Chief of Staff, went on to become the Secretary of Defense, and then of course Cheney moved up to become Chief of Staff for Ford.
02:42:04.000But their whole purpose In fact, they expanded it.
02:42:08.000They wrote the current COG that the National Security Council is using for the NORTHCOM takeover.
02:42:12.000And now the Pentagon, as you know, Wayne, wants 400,000 troops.
02:42:18.000the white house and said they expanded it they wrote the current co_d_ that the national security council is using for the north com takeover and now the pentagon as you know lane wants four hundred thousand troops a year ago was twenty thousand now it's four hundred thousand on the streets of america that's right that's right And certainly we know that they were the ones behind the CIA, you know, getting rid of Bill Colby as CIA director.
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02:47:47.000It's in congressional hearings about this now.
02:47:50.000You've got some more intel on that with them tied into Thailand.
02:47:54.000Well, just in the last couple days, under a new Justice Department program called Twisted Traveler, they busted, for the first time under this program, three Americans in Cambodia for engaging in sex with kids there.
02:48:08.000The problem is that the State Department was said to have been involved with this investigation through the Diplomatic Security Service.
02:48:34.000I've been trying to get a list of all the congressional delegations that have been down there since the 1990s, specifically 96 to the present time.
02:48:45.000When these guys get caught, Instead of prosecuting them, sending them back to the United States, they simply transfer them to another embassy in Southeast Asia where they're allowed to continue these decadent practices.
02:48:58.000So it's fine the Justice Department is looking at it.
02:49:02.000They're getting the low-hanging fruit here, though they're not going after the diplomats, the CIA stations that are involved in this, especially for blackmail purposes, everything from local businessmen Well, Wayne, in closing, every time I'm researching globalism, I'm not even looking for it, and you run into pedophiles.
02:49:27.000From your research, is it a pedophile guild at all levels of government in key man positions that are really running things?
02:49:36.000Well, I have to say that in the State Department, it's one of the worst case scenarios for this type of thing.
02:49:44.000The State, as I say, the diplomatic corps in Southeast Asia, including ambassadors, either are involved with this or give a wink and a nod to it.
02:49:56.000We're talking about an underground cult that basically looks out for one another.
02:50:03.000Well, that's what we find even in state investigations.
02:50:05.000I mean, it's just, we kick open the doors and it's always satanic pedophiles and weirdos and scum and it just... God help us with these people!