The 8th anniversary of 9/11 is fast approaching and the government is planning a massive false flag attack to blame it on foreign enemies. The government has been caught in the past with staged terror attacks to blame their enemies. Charlie Sheen wants to meet with President Obama to discuss this.
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00:00:13.000Well, the eighth anniversary of the tragic staged terror attacks of 9-11 is approaching.
00:00:18.000The eighth anniversary, I would just remind people that we were called conspiracy theorists just three years ago for saying the Gulf of Tonkin was staged.
00:00:25.000It's now declassified that those were staged attacks on our ships.
00:00:29.000To blame it, Uh, on the Vietnamese to start the Vietnam War that killed over a million and a half Vietnamese and over 58,000 Americans, injuring over 200,000 Americans.
00:00:36.000I just want to point out Operation Ajax, staged terror attacks that were blamed on the government of Iran, is declassified at the CIA's own history section.
00:00:46.000I just want to point out that it's now been declassified by the NSA that the USS Liberty attack was staged to be blamed on Egypt.
00:00:53.000That came out years after many people exposed it, long before I was on the scene it was exposed, 20-something, 30 years ago.
00:01:00.000Well, that happened in 67, but it was exposed from day one.
00:01:15.000And Army Field Manual from 2004 has been declassified where it talks about how to stage false flag terror attacks.
00:01:21.000It's come out that six of the ten 9-11 Commission members even told the Washington Post that the 9-11 Commission was a fraud and a lie and a cover-up and needed to be criminally investigated.
00:01:29.000It's even been in the news but never gets any traction, never becomes a big issue.
00:01:34.000We can't just sit here idly by and let all this continue.
00:01:38.000So my point is, you're crazy to not know about the history of government-sponsored terror.
00:01:42.000You're crazy to not know about all the cases out there where Hitler firebombed his own Reichstag on February 27th to get police state going in Germany.
00:02:29.000The establishment likes to do these hit pieces on the science because they know the general public aren't architects or engineers or physicists or underwriting laboratories people like Kevin Ryan.
00:02:39.000They can shoot a missile into a chicken coop and say it would have blown the Pentagon up.
00:02:43.000They can show you a three-story building and say if we would have blown it up we would have found debt court.
00:02:49.000I mean, they can do so many little things, little gimmicks, or say we're crazy and just want to believe this, when the history that we have is a continual chain of staged terror attacks.
00:03:01.000Now, on the Charlie Sheen issue, and we're going to Richard Gage, this is less than 24 hours after the media picked this up.
00:03:07.000They picked it up first in the afternoon yesterday.
00:03:09.000At about 4 o'clock, we saw the first mainstream news stories.
00:03:12.000Now, 20 hours into this, or 21 hours into this, Fox News.
00:03:18.000Charlie Sheen seeks meeting with Obama to discuss 9-1-1 cover-up.
00:04:19.000That's why Charlie wrote the letter about a meeting with the President, so that it would become a big issue of him wanting to actually meet with the President.
00:04:27.000That's what he talked about earlier when he was live on the show, in the tape interview we just aired.
00:04:31.000That's the whole point of what we're doing.
00:05:27.000We've got 830 architects and engineers backing him up, saying, yes, these buildings came down by explosive-controlled demolition.
00:05:36.000So with all of this support and others, of course, across the 9-11 Truth Movement, Supporting him, he can come out and make a splash now, and maybe it's time, Alex, and you've really supported him and given him a vehicle for this expression of coming out of the closet again and building truth.
00:05:56.000And it has to happen with Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and others who have kind of squeaked a little bit here and there, but now it's time, isn't it?
00:07:20.000as an architect, as an engineer who's built major structures, who has 800 architects and engineers and thousands of other students who are becoming engineers and architects on your team, but 800 plus, and break it down as the founder of Architects and Engineers, Final Love and Truth.
00:07:33.000Well, we've been speaking all across the country now for three years.
00:08:29.000I mean, this is a huge opportunity for the 9-11 truth movement because he himself has been traveling around the world talking about 9-11 truth.
00:08:38.000And so we're very excited to speak in 14 different cities all together in Japan, Australia.
00:08:47.000As of a year ago when he first went public and we interviewed him here as well and he's since traveled to New York and other major cities of the world, he was the number three person in his party in the diet.
00:09:03.000for after decades and decades out of power is now in power and as you said the president of his party is now the president of the country so we need to go look at the power structure but I believe he's number two now in the Japanese government is a 9-11 truther who shows Clips and clips of your films and clips of Professor Stephen Jones repeatedly in the Diet, in their Congress.
00:10:26.000We had 435 people listening live also from home on their computers, and I had 40 minutes to present all of the evidence, which, by the way, I very carefully laid out before Robert Erickson of Creative Differences, who was the I very carefully laid out before Robert Erickson of Creative Differences, who was the producer for this National Geographic entertainment piece, we call it, that many people have had
00:10:56.000And we'll be talking about how they go about distorting what we have to say.
00:11:02.000But it's very important that people understand that I spent an hour with him highlighting the evidence of the free-fall acceleration of World Trade Center 7 in the pools of molten iron that are found underneath it in the Twin Towers.
00:11:23.000And all of this evidence, the massive expulsion of perimeter wall sections, 600 feet at 70 miles an hour, instant acceleration out of the side of the Twin Towers, no floors found at the bottom of the Twin Towers, pulverized concrete, 90,000 tons of it.
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00:16:53.000Going back to Richard Gage, because I have this article here, Richard, I want to get back into the science, and this guy promising he'd put your science and your evidence in the film, and even showing you a rough cut that did have it, and saying that was the cut.
00:17:07.000But have you seen where the federal government is going to indoctrinate kids on 9-11 and how the Police State and Patriot Act are good as part of 9-11 federally funded courses in the public schools?
00:17:37.000Well, yeah, they brought us down for the first interview, and I just mentioned before the break that we carefully laid out all of this information for them, and they're asking very intelligent questions, and they're nodding, and he was aware that we were telling the truth, and he was very impressed by it.
00:17:59.000This is not some kind of unconscious skepticism or something.
00:18:03.000So four months later, we're invited back because he wants to show us the rough cut because he has had criticism in the past where he felt, he said people have thought that their interviews he said people have thought that their interviews were taken out of context and so forth.
00:18:25.000So he brings us back, and actually, I'm watching myself in the rough cut with all this evidence, and I'm delighted, because, you know, we're talking about molten metal.
00:18:36.000We're talking about nanothermite chips found in the dust.
00:18:40.000Very high-tech stuff, not made in a cave in Afghanistan.
00:18:44.000I think your next hour's guest, Steve Jones, will be talking in detail about that.
00:18:50.000But I told him about the small, previously molten iron spheres the size of a human hair that are found in all the dust samples ignited thermite by chemical analysis.
00:19:37.000We're just watching these experiments.
00:19:39.000So they lure you back to see the rough cut and it's these experiments?
00:19:44.000Then we see the rough cut, and we're delighted with what we were shown of ourselves, and then these experiments come on, and we're going, what the heck is this?
00:19:52.000And by the way, they're videotaping your response.
00:20:21.000And I have to tell you, this thermite experiment, for instance, where they put this 8-inch tall I-beam across 500 gallons of jet fuel and light it and put a 3,000-pound where they put this 8-inch tall I-beam across 500 gallons of
00:20:40.000load in the middle of this I-beam, and we have in a couple of minutes temperatures rising very high and causing the failure of this beam.
00:20:52.000Well, first of all, have they talked to us?
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00:21:13.000And they had under laboratory conditions, ASTM E-119 is the test number.
00:21:20.000They put 2,000 degrees of fire under the truss and twice the known amount of loading on top of the floor system.
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00:25:37.000Okay, Richard Gage, Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth's founder.
00:25:43.000We got broken up by a couple breaks there.
00:25:46.000Recap what happened with the production company, with the television piece that just aired last week on the National Geographic Channel, and then conclude in summary exactly what you're saying here, and then I have the question to ask.
00:26:08.000So, we have missed hiring Underwriter Laboratories to create this mock section, and they tested it according to very scientific, well, time-honored tests, and it did not fail.
00:26:23.000They had three different versions of this thing.
00:26:28.000NIST, of course, in turn threw that test out and claims a 42-inch SAG, by the way, to justify their column failure theory, which they needed in order to get Larry Silverstein his $5.68 billion.
00:26:44.000But the point is that instead of doing something scientific like this, we have National Geographic, Robert Erickson of Creative Differences, hiring Emertech, a defense contractor, to show everybody, theoretically, how this to show everybody, theoretically, how this building obviously fell apart.
00:27:07.000Well, first of all, they don't have 8-inch I-beams in the building.
00:27:14.000Uh, which certainly doesn't relate to any of the massive core columns in the building.
00:27:19.000We didn't have 500 gallons of jet fuel sitting there underneath anything.
00:27:24.00090% of that jet fuel was expelled and exploded outside the building.
00:27:28.000The rest burned up, according to the official story, in just 10 minutes.
00:27:31.000So all the jet fuel did was ignite a normal office fire, whose temperatures don't get to be above 12 or 1400 degrees.
00:27:39.000And even then there's no evidence for temperatures over 500 or 600 degrees in the towers.
00:27:47.000So, this whole thing from start to finish is just ludicrous.
00:27:50.000And this, by the way, this I-beam is not interconnected with several other beams like in a normal office building where the heat is conducted away from the heat source throughout the columns and beams in the building, which is really the reason why we never have had a steel frame high-rise building collapse due to fire because of this incredible conduction ability and interconnectedness.
00:28:17.000This experiment and the other ones were set up to fail and manipulate the American people into thinking that this is science versus, obviously, these architects and engineers who are simply conspiracy theorists.
00:28:35.000But last night at the Commonwealth Club, we carefully laid out all this evidence, and he said, OK, at the end, which side is conspiracy and which side is science?
00:28:48.00090% of the 60 people who were either believers of the official theory beforehand or who were unsure, 90% of those 60 people were convinced of the evidence for explosive control.
00:29:01.000OK, to be clear, you've got 200 people.
00:29:04.000At this meeting, I guess you asked before who believes the official story, who doesn't.
00:29:09.000You're saying that's how you know it was 60 people?
00:29:22.000And then at the end of it, you're saying 90% of those 60 people now believe the engineering, now believed your information.
00:29:30.000Yes, and the numbers are 20 and 40, so that there's 20 people believing the official story before, 40 who were unsure, but 90% of those totaling 60 believed in the explosive control demolition theory afterward.
00:29:43.000And it's like that at every presentation, Alex.
00:29:46.000And you get most of these presentations, correct me if I'm wrong, to architects and engineer groups.
00:30:07.000Okay, well, what happens when you go to those?
00:30:10.000Oh, it's fascinating, because you get people who, first of all, most of them know nothing about the third worst structural failure in modern history, building seven 47-story skyscraper collapses to its own footprint in six and a half seconds, and their jaws drop.
00:30:28.000And by the way, NIST had always said freefall didn't happen, but then they were forced now to go ahead and say, okay, there was freefall involved.
00:30:36.000And they've given five, six different stories and had to recant their previous reasons that Building 7 collapsed in their own NIST reports.
00:31:07.000In fact, they wouldn't have changed if it weren't for members of AEN11Truth, David Chandler, a physicist, and Stephen Jones calling them publicly on their press conference.
00:31:37.000And every architect and engineer we talk to knows that.
00:31:39.000So they end up signing our petition saying, yeah, let's get a real investigation.
00:31:43.000Okay, I want to go back for a moment, and we'll continue going over this, debunking them.
00:31:48.000The maker of the television show, who I've talked to on the phone, he's always trying to get me involved in these shows, there's several shows, a JFK and a 9-11, and I tell this production company, no, I know you're deceptive, you're known as the most manipulative out there, that this is your specialty, and the guy laughs.
00:32:05.000And the JFK thing comes out, and it's a total fraud, the most skewed to the official story I've ever seen.
00:32:12.000And so that's why when I was warning you, I was saying, Richard, this is, you know, months ago, when you were doing the interviews, I said, this is not a friendly piece.
00:33:32.000Yeah, no, I'm finishing my film, Fall of the Republic, in the next week and a half, and I am working on just absolutely piles of work, but I would love to be there with you.
00:33:43.000Ah, well, I'll be at the two conferences there, the We Demand Transparency conference at St.
00:33:48.000Mark's and the Bowery, the 11th and the 12th.
00:33:52.000And then Real Change Conference, the 11th and the 12th also.
00:33:55.000Luke Rutkowski's We Are Change group is having some great speakers as well.
00:34:00.000So I encourage everybody to come out to New York who can and support us and support these incredible truthers who have given so much to wake up the American people.
00:34:14.000Now, run through some other bullet points.
00:34:16.000I mean, you were trying, we went to break, also getting into underwriting laboratories, has this internal report where in the underwriting they tested fire making the building fall.
00:34:27.000It had to be a special building, because FEMA and the command centers were there.
00:34:31.000They went in and even added more strength.
00:34:33.000This super building, CIA, Defense Intelligence, IRS, Army, FBI.
00:34:39.000The whole thing's the second biggest CIA compound outside of Langley in the U.S., they admit.
00:34:45.000And then magically it falls in its own footprint.
00:34:48.000You brought that information about underwriting laboratories to them, but they don't care.
00:34:51.000They went and got a steel of unknown strength, an alloy, put a big weight over it, with the white tips of the flame, the very hottest part, hitting on it long-wise.
00:35:25.000But the fires had almost completely burned out.
00:35:27.000There were people in the holes waving for help seconds before they just shatter and the building just, you know, just it's it's it's unbelievable.
00:35:36.000It's like watching a volcano explode and saying there was no pressure underneath it.
00:35:42.000In the South Tower, the fires were going out after only 56 minutes.
00:35:59.000And ten minutes later, the 101st responders are witnessing and documenting in their oral recordings sounds of explosions and flashes of light at the onset of the collapses, like a belt wrapping all the way around the building.
00:36:19.000Yeah, that's a quote from the fireman.
00:36:22.000And we have news reporters on the ground 2,000 feet away from this ducking from the incredible sounds of explosions, which we don't hear on any of the reports.
00:36:38.000They systematically take out the sounds of explosions, but there's Well over a couple of hundred witnesses talking about these incredible explosions and then debris flying everywhere out of the sides of the Twin Towers.
00:36:55.000As I mentioned, 600 feet flying laterally at 50 to 70 miles an hour.
00:37:02.000And so, this is a gravitational collapse.
00:37:06.000We would expect to see 110 floors stacked up at the bottom of each of these buildings.
00:37:12.000Guess how many floors we see at the bottom?
00:37:15.000And the photographs, the videos, none!
00:37:33.000So this is a huge problem for the official story as well.
00:37:40.000Well, so I explained very carefully to National Geographic what FEMA found and what FEMA documented in their Appendix C of their May of 2002 DPAT report.
00:37:55.000By the way, the only two steel samples saved from Building 7.
00:38:00.000But these two steel samples, they document intergranular melting, rapid oxidation, sulfidation, and even evaporation of the ends of these beams.
00:38:09.000The firemen have never seen this before.
00:38:27.000And some damage from the beams of the World Trade Center north tower when it went down earlier that morning.
00:38:33.000So what happens to this entire... Oh, further research investigation is necessary.
00:38:38.000But unfortunately, though, for those hoping to resolve the issue, all of that steel has been recycled to China, and FEMA had ordered the recycling of that steel.
00:38:51.000They deny this, but those who do this research end up citing FEMA for giving these orders.
00:40:28.000We go at the history of it that they've done this over and over again and that helps people get past not imagining that government would do this.
00:40:37.000Government isn't like the rest of people.
00:40:57.000We can give you the evidence that the media, the government, has not given you.
00:41:01.000You can see for yourself that this points to something other than some kind of Al-Qaeda attack.
00:41:08.000You have got to do the research, and TerrorStorm provides an excellent background as to how these things have been systematic, as you mentioned earlier, with governments inciting wars for profit and control.
00:41:23.000But they want to know, well, how do we talk to people?
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00:47:29.000But next week, he's taking time out Friday to be here, and I've asked him, I said, go ahead and do TV now, but he wants to focus and try to do that.
00:47:36.000He may do some stuff on the set, he's not sure if he can duck away on TV.
00:48:18.000And I think, by the way, Alex, National Geographic did us a favor.
00:48:23.000That hit face was so bad that even thinking people will see the major, obvious attempt to slander the truth movement and actually look at us and find out what the heck's going on.
00:48:35.000And that weird woman's voice, that weird woman's voice going, truth is... Then when she talked about the other people, she had a normal tone.
00:48:44.000And it was like a snake voiced it or something.
00:48:48.000Do me a favor, I'm gonna let you go, Mr. Gage, we appreciate your time.
00:48:52.000Contact me in a week or so, when you're ready to release those transcripts of what really happened in the interviews, where he's promising he's gonna put that out.
00:48:58.000I'd like to have you on the air to expose that, to just show the deception.
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00:52:11.000For those that don't know, we had Charlie Sheen live on today with us.
00:52:15.000We also aired that 21-minute interview I did a few weeks ago at his home.
00:52:20.000A video interview I did with him is going to be airing tomorrow, and he'll be live with us on the air again Friday for 9-11.
00:52:27.000And he's going public for the 9-11 families who've called for a new investigation, for the six 9-11 Commission members of the ten that come out and say it's a fraud, a lie, a hoax.
00:52:37.000We're doing this because we want to get the truth out and want our children to live in a free country and a free society.
00:52:43.000Hitler used staged terror to get control.
00:52:44.000Stalin and Lenin did it to expand control.
00:53:12.000It gets really messy, but I had a bunch of articles in my stack.
00:53:17.000Oh, here's yesterday's stack, where they're openly announcing Argentine-style collapse for the United States.
00:53:28.000And where all of this is coming out, and so I'm going to go over that, and when Professor Jones leaves us, I'm going to cover that in great detail.
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01:01:59.000Stephen Jones, a retired professor of physics, has published papers in Scientific American, Nature, and Physical Review Letters.
01:02:06.000His peer-reviewed papers on the collapse of the World Trade Center towers, all three of them, when only two were hit by airplanes, is being widely read and has been translated into Spanish, French, and Japanese.
01:02:17.000It's available at the Journal of 911studies.com, along with 26 other scholarly letters regarding the events of 9-11-2001.
01:02:24.000His ongoing research includes experiments with thermites, along with electron microscope energy, spectrographic analysis of dust and slag from the WTC. and And we really appreciate him coming on.
01:02:40.000He's here today to debunk the debunkers who lied to Gage and said, oh, we're going to show you talking about this evidence.
01:02:48.000Showed him a rough cut and said, this will be in the show.
01:02:50.000They have transcripts of that now, proving it.
01:03:01.000And they also did this ridiculous thermite I mean, I've seen thermite tests where they put a cup of it over on an engine block, and it melts right through in seconds.
01:03:08.000I've seen... But this thermite barely even sparked, but just for a few seconds.
01:03:14.000It's saying there were hundreds of pounds on it.
01:03:16.000I mean, ladies and gentlemen... And then they acted like explosive thermite didn't exist, nano-thermite, super-thermite.
01:03:30.000Thanks Alex, it's great to be with you again here today.
01:03:34.000Okay, briefly recap, most people know who you are, but for those that don't, how you got into this, and then let's get into Thermite, Therm-A, the different samples, what it shows, how it fits with the NIST report, fits with the firefighter testimony.
01:04:02.000These are all peer-reviewed, and I encourage people to go there.
01:04:05.000Of course, we also have the papers that you mentioned in a more established scientific journal, technical journal, civil engineering journal, and of course the open chemical physics journal has our latest paper with Neil Territ, Jeff Ferrer, myself, and a total and of course the open chemical physics journal has our latest paper with Neil Territ, And so, let's see, my other phone was ringing, Alex, sorry.
01:04:37.000So, yeah, it's been quite an adventure trying to explain to people the difference between nanothermite or superthermite, same thing there, compared to ordinary macrothermite.
01:04:53.000And I'll tell you, I explained that very carefully to the National Geographic people, and they did get some of that straight, but You just couldn't seem to bring it to admit that, you know, here's a form of thermite that's nano thermite that's distinctly different from ordinary thermite.
01:05:13.000And the nano thermite is explosive and can be tailored to be a high explosive.
01:05:20.000And they just, they just didn't do it.
01:05:23.000And then, of course, this test they did, you mentioned that, where they piled up ordinary thermite.
01:05:30.000That would have been interesting if they'd done at least that, which I talked about in my first paper.
01:05:35.000And you and I talked about thermate, which is the sulfur added to thermite, at some length, explaining the difference.
01:05:44.000And of course, the sulfur observed in samples of World Trade Center steel, observed by the guys at Worcester Polytechnic Institute and published.
01:05:54.000That great mystery, the New York Times said, how did the sulfur get in the steel?
01:06:02.000Sorry, clearing my throat a little here, but yeah, so they didn't even add sulfur, and of course they didn't test nanothermite at all.
01:06:10.000And they kept saying, I just was reviewing that this morning, the NatGeo program, and they kept saying, well, thermite is not explosive, will not explode.
01:06:21.000Well, excuse me, there is a form called nanothermite that will explode, and so, you know, they Totally obfuscated that important point.
01:07:24.000Good evidence for that was the sulfur in the World Trade Center steel sample.
01:07:29.000But to do it with ordinary thermite, and the way they did it, is just ludicrous.
01:07:35.000And of course, I told them, it's a straw man argument.
01:07:38.000It supposedly represents my views, but in no way comes close to what I have stated.
01:07:47.000Well, I want to get into the science with you, Professor, today, but first, did they hold out in a dishonest way to you in the way Richard Gage, who I think has the highest credibility, I mean, he doesn't like to get in fights, he doesn't like to be nasty, he puts up with a lot of crap, he's a genteel person, scholarly like yourself, but I mean, he said this was a complete lie, a complete deception, a complete fraud.
01:08:10.000Well, you know, I think that there are certainly some elements there.
01:08:16.000That I would have to say that Nat Geo was disingenuous.
01:08:21.000I mean, I said, look, NIST just can't seem to admit that there is a form of thermite, nanothermite, that is explosive.
01:08:31.000I hope you can get that straight and tell the facts.
01:08:36.000This is what we're claiming now is nanothermite was the main culprit here.
01:08:41.000Oh yeah, they say repeatedly they don't even know if it exists, even though you have all the patents, and NASA uses it, and missile separation.
01:08:48.000I mean, it just so happens the Pentagon has a lot, and their scientists just so happen to have those patents, and you've got a bunch of NIST experts that are the few in the world on it, but no big deal.
01:08:57.000And you know, there's data published, as we quoted in our nanothermite paper, we published from Livermore National Laboratory, for example, kiloton and gash and those scientists, and, you know, they're publishing their data, and we compared our data with theirs for the differential scanning calorimeter, for example.
01:09:19.000The composition is the same as theirs.
01:09:21.000I mean, you know, as you mentioned, the very ultra-fine iron and aluminum.
01:09:29.000This is not something that happens as the building falls down to get this complex mix of ultra-fine.
01:09:38.000This is very exotic and from sample after sample after sample you find the same signature.
01:09:45.000And so for them to obscure all that, particularly after my, actually I was just pleading with Robert Erickson to please get this straight.
01:09:58.000NIST can't seem to admit it but surely you can.
01:10:02.000that there's a difference between incendiary thermite and explosive nanothermite.
01:10:08.000There's a difference between night and day, you know.
01:10:10.000And sure enough, they obscured it again.
01:10:13.000And so, yes, I must say that does seem disingenuous to me.
01:10:19.000I don't see how you can say it otherwise.
01:10:21.000Well, I know you don't get into the Pentagon, but firing missiles into fiberglass chicken coops, and I recognize that's what it looked like out of a farm supply, a fiberglass little thin thing.
01:10:31.000and blowing it up with a pound of plastic explosive and saying a missile would have blown the whole Pentagon up.
01:10:36.000I mean, this was, this was just, I mean, I was watching this and I couldn't believe it.
01:10:41.000And they would go, the science, the truthers.
01:10:44.000And they would like, off the page, have it all crooked, the word truther, even on your name tags to make you look right.
01:10:51.000And they wouldn't have the camera shots as nice with you guys, but with their experts they would.
01:11:07.000And then during a recess here in Austin, when they shot that, they would just show the bleachers while I was talking with like three people in them.
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01:16:36.000And the truth is coming out, and the system is scared.
01:16:38.000Professor Jones, do you agree with me that, or give us your take on this, that we see all these new hit pieces coming out now because they understand 9-11 truth has just continued to grow and didn't go away, it wasn't just a political thing of bashing Bush, that staged terror is something that people really understand now?
01:18:16.000And then do the test that we did, and you'll get the same result.
01:18:19.000Yeah, you're finding the nanothermite, I mean itself, unignited.
01:18:23.000There was one issue that had any credibility, the one shred watching the program several times that I thought had any basis.
01:18:32.000Was this claim, well, your chain of custody.
01:18:34.000But you have FEMA coming in two days after, locking it down, saying federal crime to even take photos.
01:18:40.000They cut up the steel, shipped it off, but you and others were able to go to the different states and cities that have gotten it, you know, to build memorials with it.
01:18:48.000You were able to get it from people that owned homes or apartments nearby where it was still wrecked.
01:18:58.000We've studied in detail six samples now, if I count correctly.
01:19:02.000Four are reported in the paper, but we've been looking at more samples, and they all have the same signature of the red-gray material, these chips that still blow up.
01:19:14.000The red material side blows up after all these years.
01:19:19.000And let me say, in the paper we make an effort To spell out the chain of custody for those samples that we reported on in the paper, we pointed out the distinct chemical similarity, the chemical signatures being the same in all four samples.
01:19:36.000So, really, the basis of maybe someone could... What could it be?
01:21:04.000He collected for us, for her, and then she sent it to us, a sample right off the steel of the actual primer paint that was still on the World Trade Center steel.
01:21:17.000So we tested this primer paint, and it's not the same as these red chips, not at all.
01:21:24.000All of the primer paint samples show potassium, magnesium, and zinc.
01:21:31.000And the other one, of the chips, when you, I'm talking about when you get a fresh surface for both, right?
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01:26:17.000Going back to Professor Steven Jones and the 10 minutes we have left with him, then I'm going to cover financial news and some other issues.
01:26:23.000Professor Jones, you were making a point about... Right.
01:26:28.000So you got the paint that was on the steel, not the same thing?
01:26:33.000It's very distinct from the red gray chip material.
01:26:37.000Yeah, the paint, just to recap that, as we looked at it using the electron microscopy system, And x-ray dispersive spectroscopy, that's that term.
01:26:53.000And I tell people that will be on the quiz, you know.
01:26:56.000And, you know, I appreciate when people make an effort to understand some of the things that we're trying to do.
01:27:04.000We're looking at the material that's in the dust.
01:27:07.000We're finding this pyrotechnic or explosive material.
01:27:11.000You know, I think people understand that that is significant.
01:27:14.000It shouldn't be there in quantities like that.
01:27:17.000I mean, this was an office building, for heaven's sakes, and the one sample was collected within 20 minutes of the fall of the second tower, the North Tower.
01:27:28.000So this cannot be contaminated by cleanup operations.
01:27:32.000There were no cleanup operations 20 minutes after the second tower collapsed.
01:27:37.000This was a fellow, Frank D'Alessio, scooped that up, got that dust.
01:27:42.000We found an abundance of these red grape chips in that sample.
01:27:46.000And his friend, what's his name, Breidenbach, also testified.
01:27:53.000The chain of custody is clear, straight to me, and Jeff Ferrer, Dr. Ferrer at BYU.
01:28:02.000So, again, when we compare the primer paint, this is from steel in a monument at Clarkson College in New York State, compare that primer paint with these red gray chips, they are not the same at all.
01:28:16.000The primer paint always shows zinc in abundance.
01:28:26.000You break off a chunk and you look at the edge so that you're not talking about dust now.
01:28:31.000You're talking about what's in the actual material.
01:28:38.000So the paint shows those elements, zinc, potassium, magnesium, always, whereas the red material never shows those elements completely distinct what what are the chips are you saying it's nanothermite it certainly has that characteristic uh i'm persuaded that it is nanothermite i mean it's an explosive material in the sense or pyrotechnic in the sense that it it reacts violently
01:29:06.000we published that in our nanothermite paper in the open chemical physics and you wouldn't put a accelerant you wouldn't put something explosive as fireproofing on buildings Absolutely.
01:29:33.000Of course, you know, there's an example of the government lying to us.
01:29:38.000In that case, the whistleblower Nikki Tinsley was the EPA General Inspector and she blew the whistle on the EPA for lying to the people about the safety of the dust.
01:29:48.000And by the way, seven years ago they would call it a conspiracy theory.
01:29:52.000You said Tina Todd Whitten was covering up for Bush.
01:29:55.000Later it came out that one of her reports said the dust is dangerous in the first week.
01:30:53.000And if I may throw in another one, which of course was missed by the Nat Geo program, that is the free-fall acceleration of World Trade Center 7.
01:31:04.000For over two seconds, and that's over a hundred feet, the roof was measured by David Chandler.
01:31:10.000I looked at this too, but to David's credit, he plotted the data, you know, and showed this is essentially freefall.
01:31:19.000And then he and I both challenged NIST.
01:31:21.000Remember last August they had this forum where you could send in questions by email, which I did and he did.
01:31:28.000We both challenged them on their statements about the rate of fall of the World Trade Center 7.
01:31:35.000And sure enough, NIST, now this is a little bit to their credit, they came back and plotted the data.
01:31:41.000It agrees, it lines up with free fall acceleration.
01:31:45.000It lines up with what David Chandler and I were trying to say.
01:31:50.000And so they admitted that, but to their great discredit, they did not go back and say, well, this is really strange.
01:31:56.000That means there's nothing impeding the fall.
01:32:01.000You know, you've got hundreds of thousands of tons of steel and concrete.
01:32:03.000These beams don't just give up and disappear.
01:32:07.000Their mass alone would slow the roof down, but nothing slowed it down.
01:32:10.000Now, that takes explosives to move this material out of the way.
01:32:14.000It's a prime evidence for explosives, along with the red chips that we have found.
01:32:20.000But what NIST did, they swept that data, they showed that plot, but then they say, oh, this is consistent with our computer model, and that's the end of that.
01:32:29.000We're not going to discuss it anymore.
01:32:31.000And so you know that a computer model, which they will not let us test, I mean, it just can't be, Alex, that having hundreds of thousands of tons of material on the way and you get free fall.
01:32:45.000Unless they took that out of a computer model, which actually you can do in a computer simulation, but you can't do that in real life unless you use explosives to move the material out of the way.
01:32:57.000But underwriting laboratories, in their own report, said that they did fire testing for similar things and it didn't make anything collapse.
01:33:04.000And it didn't fail, did not fail, right?
01:34:27.000But I wish three years ago I had medical doctors on, and they said, look, in the trials of Gardasil, Humapapalona virus vaccine is killing girls and maiming and paralyzing them.
01:34:37.000And I went on air and talked about it and got made fun of by the media.
01:34:41.000And then now it's all over the news everywhere I turn, uh, where the human papillomavirus shot is killing or maiming or paralyzing people.
01:34:49.000I mean, we're just, we're just trying to tell the truth here.
01:34:59.000I wanted to ask you, Alex, if I can turn the tables just for a minute.
01:35:04.000I'm really curious what you're finding out about this vaccine for the swine flu.
01:35:11.000And I'm sorry if I changed the topic, but I just got to ask you that question.
01:35:15.000Do you have any, I'm sure you have some strong feelings, but any advice of what we can do about what's coming down the pike?
01:35:22.000You know, there's so many pieces of political data, socioeconomic data, so many medical doctors and scientists and virologists I've interviewed and all the different perspectives.
01:35:33.000It's almost like I've over-analyzed it to the point of, we know it's a lie, we know it's a fraud.
01:35:40.000We knew in January they were gearing up for quarantines, mass graves, federalization, Northcom to put 400,000 troops on the streets.
01:35:48.000And we saw all these movements in January.
01:35:50.000I went on air and said, I believe it's flu-related, because emergency managers in Chicago and in Indiana were telling me this, and in upstate New York.
01:35:58.000Then I got secret documents and published them.
01:36:03.000They're not using this just as a cover for federalization.
01:36:08.000The banks are financing this worldwide.
01:36:11.000It's kind of a way, if they want to worldwide shut everything down during the economic implosion of their engineering in the fall, that they're going to use this to clamp down.
01:36:59.000Do they know it's going to mutate into something more deadly?
01:37:01.000Vaccine trials in Europe have killed a bunch of people with different flu vaccines in the last year, namely bird flu.
01:37:08.000There's internal CDC reports that have come out.
01:37:11.000Admitting that this could cause that Gillian Bernays disorder and nerve degeneration and even death that happened in 76 with the same type of swine flu that popped up at a military base after inoculations.
01:37:24.000But people don't seem to be buying this.
01:37:26.000Remember back in 2002, they tried the Model State Self-Emergency Powers Act.
01:37:29.000Tried to order all first responders, nurses, doctors, police, firemen, 14 million total, the LA Times reported, to take these inoculations.
01:37:41.000But then Tommy Thompson wouldn't even take it, so the whole thing fell apart.
01:37:44.000So they keep trying this, but usually when it's just a hype thing they're doing, they don't build up all these assets.
01:37:52.000And so, I think it's an ace in the hole for them to release something else if they want.
01:37:56.000I mean, we know it's staged, but at a certain point then, we know what they're saying is a lie, we know it's staged, but we don't know what their exact playbook is.
01:38:47.000And I said, look, these same people, the puppeteers there, if you get the big picture, it's not over.
01:38:58.000And the sooner we wake up, the sooner we can do something to change our republic, to have this renaissance that we need to clean up these guys, if we possibly can at this late date.
01:39:16.000I mean, every time I think about getting set up, getting put in prison, getting killed, and I'm not trying to get sympathy here, folks.
01:39:25.000I mean, I don't even tell you a tenth of the stuff that goes on behind the scenes, but I live in like a James Bond movie, but I'm not James Bond.
01:39:36.000Whenever it's overwhelming or I wake up at 3 a.m., like, not even fear, but more just gripped by the enormity, I think about my children, but other people's children.
01:42:01.000I just know that when you leave us in the final segment, I'm going to hit the news where top economists are in major news saying the dollar will probably die in the next two years.
01:42:14.000But we knew years ago they were planning it.
01:42:16.000Professor, I'd like to have you back sometime just on your political beliefs and ideas, because I find this very refreshing discussing it with you.
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01:46:37.000We cover all that coming up if you missed any of it, all the big developments there.
01:46:43.000You know, I've got to do at least an hour tomorrow on the show with this.
01:46:46.000And for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, you can see this, but for online folks, Obama to seal US-UN relationship to become head of the UN Security Council, at the same time as being president, first time ever, merging us with the UN, basically, Financial Times of London.
01:47:00.000McClatchy News, a year after financial crisis, a new world order emerges.
01:47:05.000UN panel calls for dollar reserve to be eliminated.
01:47:07.000That is the United Nations, and Obama's bringing us into this.
01:47:14.000Barack Obama accused of making depression mistakes.
01:47:17.000Then it goes on to say top economist of George Mason University.
01:47:23.000It is also not impossible that the U.S.
01:47:24.000will experience the kind of economic collapse from first to third world status experienced by Argentina under the National Socialist government of Juan Perón.
01:47:49.000We had the British scientist calling for that a few months ago.
01:47:51.000German government advisor, top environment guys, propose a CO2 budget for everyone on planet.
01:47:56.000If you complain about your daughter getting killed or paralyzed, Times of London from Gardasil, they take your other children, Times of London, they're going to take your kids away to fat camps.
01:48:04.000They're saying in England they want tens of thousands of kids to be taken at birth and raised in government dormitories first, while the parents prove they can be parents.
01:48:11.000This is what's going on financially and politically.
01:48:14.000I mean, this is real, ladies and gentlemen.
01:48:17.000And if we let the bankers know we're not going to go along with it, they won't bankrupt everything.
01:48:21.000Just like if we let them know they're behind the flu stuff, they'll back off.
01:48:24.000I wanted to bring Ted up in the last three minutes before we go into retransmission on Infowars.com.
01:48:30.000Ted, and there's so many big developments coming up this week, I haven't even told you about, other special celebrity guests.
01:48:35.000Looks like Thursday or Friday, tomorrow or Friday.
01:48:37.000Ted, briefly, you've still got gold you bought at the $9.45 level, silver you bought when it was $2, less than it is now, you're almost running out, you told me during a break earlier, you want to give people this offer, this may be the last time, you were selling it for $905 an ounce a week ago.
01:48:53.000It's up at $1,000 right now, a bit above $1,000.
01:49:14.000Yeah, it was below where the spot is today when I originally accumulated this deal.
01:49:18.000You can't get a better deal in silver.
01:49:20.000Okay, below spot silver, tell us about the gold.
01:49:22.000Yeah, the gold right now, the best thing in gold right now, are they going to be the $10 Liberty at $818.50?
01:49:27.000Or pick up the British Sovereign of the Frank at $233 and $288?
01:49:32.000Alex, the markets are going like this.
01:49:34.000The United States market's trying to press gold down, and once the Asian markets open up, gold goes back up over $1,000 an ounce.
01:49:40.000It's been as high as $1,005 today, and you can just see it.
01:49:44.000The Asian people want to get out of the U.S.
01:49:47.000dollar, and the Federal Reserve System here in New York, which is where the comics is, is trying to push it down when the New York market opens up.