Ray McGovern is a former Vice President of the United States and a regular contributor to the New York Times. He has been a long-time member of the Intelligence Community and served as the Director of Operations for the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) from 2002 to 2006. Ray McGovern has been with the CIA since the early days of the 9/11 attacks and has served as a consultant to both the Bush administration and the Obama administration. He is a frequent guest on Conspiracy Theories and other media outlets.
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00:02:25.000Going back to Ray McGovern in just one moment as we continue to get a briefing from him, honored to have him, on what's really going on.
00:02:34.000And he's one of the main people that came out and said the WMD thing is all a lie in Iraq.
00:02:39.000The yellow tubes, or the aluminum tubes, the yellow cake from Niger, all of it.
00:02:44.000And then now we know in hindsight it was all lies.
00:02:46.000And they literally are running the same playbook again.
00:02:49.000We'll talk to Ray McGovern in a moment, also talk about Russia, talk about Afghanistan, Pakistan, and get his view on where all that is going.
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00:04:07.000Ray, you left off with the CIA assessment 2006, and then now we fast forward to they've taken some troops out of Iraq, replaced them with contractors, put 20,000 to 30,000 more troops and contractors Well, We caught them.
00:05:23.000we've discovered a new enrichment facility.
00:05:25.000Well, we know about that enrichment facility for months, and now the Iranians are claiming that they're well within their rights under the treaties governing this kind of activity to announce the establishment of this thing, because it's several, several months more before it gets ready to enrich anything.
00:05:44.000So the hype is there, and the bottom line, people just need to realize that Iran is a Iran is years and years away from a nuclear weapon.
00:06:07.000Now when I did the President's daily brief, I didn't write all the briefs, obviously.
00:06:12.000I know who the good analysts were, the honest technical people, and it was a privilege to put their stuff in readable form and give it to the President.
00:06:26.000And I'm not getting this from McGovern's head.
00:06:28.000I'm getting it from people like Greg Keelman, who ran the State Department, the INR, the research there, and the intelligence outfit of the State Department, and was right.
00:06:39.000His people were right before the Iraq estimate there in 2002.
00:06:45.000And he now writes for the Arms Control Association.
00:07:14.000Well, Alex, there will be no news to you that there is something in this country that I call the Likud lobby.
00:07:23.000Could be the hard right faction of the Israeli government, Israeli parties, and they have an ordinate influence in this country.
00:07:32.000And if you were to ask why it is that Congress is preparing, actually preparing as we speak, to pass a law that would actually be an act of war to interdict the supply of gasoline and such products to Iran.
00:07:49.000Well, it's because a lot of their money And a lot of their votes come from what I call the Likud lobby.
00:07:57.000But why does Israel want to attack Iran?
00:08:00.000Well, you know, if you look at the Israelis and their frame of mind, and I think it's a terribly myopic frame of mind, I care about what happens to Israel, and I think it's exactly the wrong policy.
00:08:14.000They think that if they can zap the Iranian nuclear facility, as they did, We're good to go!
00:08:27.000Iranians back, oh, five, ten years perhaps, if they're allowed to do that.
00:08:32.000Now that's very myopic because the Iranians, unlike the Iraqis in those days, the Iranians can retaliate, they can close the straits, they can decimate our troops in Iraq, and they can hit Israeli cities even now. Not with a nuclear weapon, but with lots of missiles, okay?
00:08:51.000So it would be bedlam if this happened.
00:08:53.000And yet the Israelis are trying to get ROK to let them do it.
00:09:00.000But they have this kind of frame of mind.
00:09:03.000Netanyahu, their prime minister in particular, that this must not be let happen and that they're going to delay it as long as they can.
00:09:10.000If it takes an arm strike, they'll do it.
00:09:13.000Now, the only thing that is preventing them from doing it at this point, in my estimation, is this.
00:09:20.000Admiral Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who is responsible for our troops and our security, has gone over to Israel this time last year and said, Don't even think about it, okay?
00:09:33.000You fly your planes over our airspace in Iraq, we're going to shoot them down, okay?
00:09:39.000So don't even think about this, and don't think you can perpetrate the kind of incident like the Liberty incident back in June of 68, because we remember that.
00:09:49.000I'm a naval officer, and that's just not going to happen again.
00:09:53.000Now, that was pretty gutsy, and that put the kibosh on what the Israelis were doing.
00:10:29.000And then it came out later that Cheney was discussing plans to paint up U.S. ships like Iranian patrol boats and have them attack our ships.
00:10:38.000Now, this came out a year after you on this show and other shows said, what I'm hearing from intelligence sources is, they may attack our ships and blame it on Iran.
00:10:55.000Because it's one thing to get this from Sy Hersh a year after it happened, Well, Alex, I wish I could brag about an inside source on this particular thing.
00:12:00.000you can imagine my reaction at that while our that was a quick guess but government but it was just at that point again okay we had uh...
00:12:08.000bear on the former c_i_a_ fellow for folks that don't know up there yeah and and and he said two years ago and i don't trust him as much as i trust you on this promise reasons he said worried about the saudis staging a false flag to blame it on iran And then now, we see more and more similar things coming out along those lines.
00:12:35.000Well, Bob knows the area a lot better than I do, and I have great confidence in his judgment.
00:12:42.000You know, the Saudis are Sunni, the Iranians are Shia.
00:12:47.000It may seem like lunacy to us, but it matters a great deal in that area, and for the Iranians to become the preponderant power in that area, well, that's Well, the Saudis don't like that at all.
00:12:58.000Whether they would resort to this kind of provocation or not, I don't know, but Bob would be in a much better position to speculate on that.
00:13:07.000Well, I mean, what is it like for you, knowing the region, studying it, when they get up on the news and say Iran is backing al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, when it's the opposite group, Xi'an, Shunni, archenemies, they fight more than they do with Christians or Jews, really.
00:13:24.000If you look at the statistics that I've looked at, I mean, that's like saying the Dallas Cowboys are the New York Giants.
00:13:31.000I mean, it's clearly two different groups.
00:13:34.000And then the famous case two and a half years ago with the president of Afghanistan and Bush says, yes, Iran is funding Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
00:13:45.000Mohammed Karzai says, excuse me your excellency, respectfully, but Iran's helping us.
00:13:52.000They're back on the news, as you know, saying that Iran is Al-Qaeda, when the last White House admitted they were using Al-Qaeda-based groups to stage terror attacks inside Iran.
00:14:03.000Yeah. Well, in answer to your question, Alex, I take this blood pressure medicine now, so when I listen to this kind of stuff.
00:14:11.000But all kidding aside, You know, when Bush was allowed to mischaracterize, maybe a nice way of saying things, all these very important developments, and the mainstream press, people like Charlie Gibson, would just kind of say, oh, I refer specifically to Bush's famous exit interview where Charlie Gibson finally said, well, Mr. President, why did you really think you had to attack Iraq?
00:15:06.000Here's the, you know, I told you this before.
00:15:07.000But the estimate here, it actually appeared in November of 07. They started working on it in 06. And so November 07, this big shock, namely, that the NIE judges, and I used to chair these things, so I know what kind of work goes into this, high confidence that Tehran has halted a covert nuclear weapons program in the fall of 2003.
00:15:30.000What does the president say the following March?
00:15:32.000He says, quote, Iran has declared that it wants to And now they're hyping that again!
00:15:59.000I was watching CNN this morning, and they cut to some female...
00:16:35.000Do you think they're going to hit them, or will it be sanctions first, or will they false flag, or where is this going?
00:16:42.000Well, it depends on how staunchly the only reputable institution in our government stands up to this.
00:16:51.000I have a lot of admiration for Admiral Mullen.
00:16:55.000I think that, you know, he's inclined and, you know, Admiral Fallon, you remember Fallon quit when he was CENTCOM commander, because he had said, we're not going to do Iran on my watch.
00:17:12.000And it took several months, but he was there.
00:18:04.000Afghanistan and some of them left Iraq.
00:18:07.000So, you know, it all has a degree of unreality.
00:18:10.000And when I see Senator Kit Bond of Missouri and John Kyle talking about, we need regime change, we need regime change in Iran because there's such a threat to Israel.
00:18:22.000Well, you know, that just reminds me of the old saw about, you know, when they offered to make Israel the 51st state of the United States, Israel refused.
00:18:51.000I think Netanyahu is chafing at the bit.
00:18:55.000And I think Obama is under great pressure from the Likud lobby and from those still in the White House who have great difficulty distinguishing between what they perceive to be the strategic interests of Israel Well, on the one hand, and those of the United States on the other, I hope, and that's what it is, a hope, it's just a little bit more than, a little less than an expectation that Obama will stand up to this.
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00:23:27.000Well, what's going on is the rest of the world is looking at us and kind of shaking its head.
00:23:38.000The Russians and the Chinese and the Indians are the big players, of course, as they watch what we're trying to do in Afghanistan.
00:23:45.000You know, they're sort of shrugging their shoulders and saying, well, be our guest.
00:23:51.000You know, we all tried that in Afghanistan.
00:23:54.000We all fail, going back to, you know, going back to Iliad of the Great, not to mention Genghis Khan and the Persians and the Indians and the British and the Russians.
00:24:05.000Go ahead, you know, waste your military.
00:24:09.000And with respect to Iran, you know, the Russians used to care a great deal about what happened on their soft southern underbelly.
00:24:19.000But they seem almost cavalier with respect to Iranian plans.
00:24:23.000And I think part of that has to do with the fact that they don't have Israel as their, quote, ally, end quote.
00:25:28.000But Russia, Russia sits back and laughs and says, well, if they do something really idiotic, if they close the Straits of Hormuz, guess who benefits?
00:25:44.000You know, we'll be able to have a villa, we'll have a dacha for each little worker in Russia.
00:25:51.000Is that why Russia met with Netanyahu secretly a month ago and has now said they support sanctions against Iran?
00:25:57.000Well, you know, Russia plays a very clever game.
00:26:00.000You know, they express concern about this and then they go ahead.
00:26:04.000Now, with Netanyahu, they are restraining influence, although they don't care as much as we do.
00:26:12.000When Netanyahu goes up there, what you expect him to get is not approval for a strike on Iran, but some sort of reassurance that, for example, the Russians won't sell sophisticated missiles to defend the Iranian sites there, to the enrichment site.
00:26:32.000So, you know, last year, Ehud Olmert went to Moscow, and he was summoned there.
00:26:41.000And the Russians warned him in similarly definitive terms, Right. Gotta cut you off.
00:27:13.000It will depend on how this thing plays out.
00:27:15.000There will be sanctions first, but there's great pressure for an attack, and I would not rule out the likelihood that Israel would be given a nod by somebody in the White House and go ahead and do it and force our hand.
00:27:30.000And then Iran will go absolutely wild.
00:31:13.000They are some of the most dangerous people in the world.
00:31:16.000And some in the community worry that if they were here in this medium security prison, they would attract other radicals to the area, or even worse, escape.
00:31:24.000The person that wants to make it an issue, we'd be happy to lock them up and see how long it takes them to come out.
00:31:29.000And then, if they can, I'll buy them coffee at the coffee shop.
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00:38:02.000I know it's more than 15 different newscasts we've posted.
00:38:06.000CNN, Billings News, local news, saying everything that's basically in Michael Hollingsworth's article.
00:38:12.000I did read in the Billings Gazette and other newspapers in California, not just Montana, that this Billings Gazette writer has gone to work for them all of a sudden.
00:38:27.000You've got this weird foreigner who runs it all.
00:38:30.000Going around they've got foreign commanders who are on the news and they say it's all secret We're not telling you but then we have earlier news till the people said no from April where they said it was going to be Guantanamo West we have CNN and local news but as soon as the public said first they made the public pay for this with a bomb proposal and Then it sat there empty for the last year and a half.
00:38:54.000It's a giant facility This American police force put their decals on SUVs saying they were the local hardened police force.
00:39:29.000I'm going to be there tomorrow, folks.
00:39:31.000I always tell the enemy when I'm coming.
00:39:33.000So the point is, is that I like to give my heads up going there to do this, because then they'll overreact and show who they really are, too.
00:39:41.000So the point is, I want them to know I'm coming.
00:39:46.000Anyways, I'm not going to let people know exactly what, but tune in tomorrow.
00:40:04.000I represent a patriotically based website called Freedom Video USA that represents a vast number of American patriots who are all military veterans, law enforcement veterans, concerned citizens, people that have not been blinded by the current presidential election.
00:40:19.000We were able to see right through it and we absolutely have a 100% policy for dispelling all of the bovine fertilizer that's being spread from corner to corner in this country.
00:40:28.000I got some emails from some very good friends of mine who are just as dedicated to truth as I am and said, hey, man, this is up in your neck of the woods.
00:41:12.000Well, the bottom line started, I started off with an hour and a half long conversation with a lady by the name of Becky Shea, who is a almost 20 year reporter with the Billings Gazette.
00:41:21.000And she was the one who broke the story initially, so I contacted her.
00:41:25.000She is now currently the public affairs liaison for American Police Force.
00:41:30.000And I spoke with her, had a very interesting conversation where it felt like she was trying to sell me something.
00:41:35.000And I said, you know, how did this happen?
00:41:38.000broke this story to being, you know, the mouthpiece of the beast here kind of thing.
00:41:42.000And I said, all of the people, all the things I'm reading, all the feedback I'm getting from the people of heart and say that they're not interested in having, hell, they weren't even notified.
00:41:49.000These people just came out of nowhere.
00:41:50.000And she says, well, you know, I went from driving a 99 Dodge Intrepid with a broken tie rod and bad front brakes to a black Mercedes SUV with a fuel card that I don't have to pay for and a substantial increase in salary.
00:42:02.000So I said, so essentially you sold your soul.
00:42:23.000I mean, this is, I mean, in these newscasts, it's like they're trying to freak everybody out.
00:42:28.000And it's just classic intelligence operation.
00:42:32.000They admit they're looking at it for the Guantanamo Bay.
00:42:35.000They have another former Supermax, and I need to print that off before we leave, because I saw it in the news and I haven't Googled it yet, but there's another Supermax in Montana, this is a Supermax, where they quote have animal rights activists and U.S. terrorists, and I saw civil rights suits filed because they don't let them see their families even once a month for visitation.
00:42:56.000Clearly this is being looked at No sir, you're 100% correct.
00:43:24.000I spoke with Al Peterson, the executive director of Twin Rivers Authority yesterday very briefly.
00:43:30.000I got him on the phone and I asked him to confirm or deny these rumors.
00:43:33.000And I said, you know, this is a facility that was denied operational status because it was not built in specification to Montana code.
00:43:40.000In order to house prisoners legally in the state of Montana, you have to have X amount of square feet per prisoner in order for it to be considered humane incarceration.
00:43:48.000This facility did not meet those standards.
00:43:51.000My question to him was, is it that the director of the state of the city of Hardin could build such a facility with such a high price tag on it and not know from the blueprint stage that it wasn't going to be up to specs.
00:44:03.000So this is all really, like you're saying, red flags that started popping up to us going, "Okay, was this facility built specifically with the intention?
00:44:09.000Is this how far back this plan goes?" Is that they already were building these facilities because they knew there was no way their estate was ever going to allow to house them.
00:44:16.000So yesterday, I spoke with the Governor Brian Schweitzer's office who assures me that absolutely nothing illegal or unconstitutional is being allowed to happen.
00:44:23.000I rebutted with, then why are these people showing up and committing the felony of impersonating a peace officer by having hardened police department written on their vehicles?
00:44:30.000Well, sir, that's a private agency dealing with a private town, and that's not under the governor's authority, and it's really not something that we're at liberty to discuss, and we're not at liberty to discuss hypothetical situations.
00:44:40.000I said, sir, hypothetical situations, we have video of it.
00:45:13.000Let me ask you this since you live nearby because I've been trying to study this the last three days, last two days.
00:45:19.000Am I correct in saying that they had a bond issuance to build a prison to give people jobs then they did a bait-and-switch and said it's a FEMA camp and an international Merck training center?
00:45:32.000Correct. The bond issue that basically what happened the bond issue has been in court tied up in Who are you planning on training, and what are you planning on training them to do?
00:45:48.000And she says, well, you know, that's really not something I have the liberty to discuss, but it's going to be something to the nature of police-slash-detention officer-type training.
00:45:55.000And I said, man, what's wrong with the Montana Law Enforcement Academy's Peace Officer Standards and Training in our state-accredited academy?
00:46:02.000You can't function in the state of Montana.
00:46:04.000I don't know how it runs in other places, but in the state of Montana, you cannot be a sworn peace officer unless you have And the counties and cities are chartered under the state.
00:46:17.000That's their only authorities to the legislature.
00:46:22.000So basically I said, you know, I called the sheriff's office and the gentleman that answered the phone was very abrupt with me and said that I'm not going to speak to you.
00:46:28.000If you want to know anything, call the city of Hardin.
00:46:31.000They played the, you know, Jimmy Code, Go Tell Bobby, Go Tell Mary game with me and pushed me off to 30 different people.
00:46:37.000And any time that happens, that's basically in the seven tenets of special operations, you have one of them called UW or unconventional warfare.
00:46:44.000And essentially what happens with unconventional warfare is the disinformation campaign, the psychological operations, where you will go in and set, you know, light the fuse, if you will, creating the need and getting people to see things from your perspective so that when you come in and offer your services that you had planned all along, that these people are going to, you know, to a screaming thunderous applause, they're going to welcome you and So you set the groundswork of problem, reaction, solution?
00:47:09.000Precisely. Now, the other thing that's very critical that everybody in the United States and the world needs to know is that Hardin, Montana was not the only city that they planned on doing this in, and that was something that came straight out of Miche.
00:47:20.000I asked her, I said, now, so basically what you guys did is you targeted Hardin, Montana, because you realized that its financial infrastructure was collapsing and the city was about to implode and they had no money and they've been taking handouts from the state for X number of years.
00:47:32.000And she goes, well, I don't know that targeted was a good word.
00:47:34.000But she says, I think it was more that we did a complex financial evaluations of all of the locations that we were planning.
00:47:43.000They're sold this jail will save you, then they bait and switch it and turn it into a command center for American police force to spill out as society implodes.
00:47:55.000Precisely. Now you'll notice very carefully if you go to their website you will see an emblazoned logo on their berets on the side of their vehicles as a two-headed eagle.
00:48:02.000that is the Serbian royal family crest.
00:48:06.000basically, this Michael Hilton guy refers to himself as Captain Michael Hilton.
00:48:10.000He stands about 5'1", maybe 150 pounds soaking wet.
00:48:15.000This gentleman has got a very not-so-personal attitude about it.
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00:53:05.000There's so many red flags in this that we're going to be covering it over the next two days, along with all the latest flu developments here on air.
00:53:46.000Carrie Smith, who is his wife, who is the current mayoral candidate, is attempting to, you know, the statement she made was, don't worry, everybody, citizens of the department, the truth about APF will be exposed soon enough, and then just go, with the flow.
00:54:01.000That was a direct quote from her that can be done on this.
00:54:05.000And the statehouse is saying, we're not getting answers.
00:54:08.000Yeah. Well, that's the thing is, you know, this last two days that I've spent literally several, you know, most of this last two days on the phone with the Montana government, I'm getting all these canned answers from Governor Schweitzer, from Senator Baucus, and it's all the same thing.
00:54:21.000Well, sir, we're very honored that you took the time to contact us today.
00:54:24.000We'll be glad to send you a rubber-stamped form letter and blah, blah, blah.
00:54:27.000And we're actually not really at liberty to talk about that.
00:54:29.000The biggest, scariest, and most disgusting thing about this, Mr.
00:54:32.000Jones, is that they say the same thing.
00:54:35.000This is a private deal between the city of Havre and American Police Force and Two Rivers Authority.
00:54:42.000I mean, literally, it was a verbal duke out with this guy.
00:54:44.000I said, so what you're telling me is that the governor of my state, the supreme authority of my state, has absolutely no interest in the fact that there are foreign mercenaries who have set up a forward operating base, essentially.
00:54:54.000It's a hardened structure that's surrounded by hundreds of roles.
00:55:35.000And then the tall, heavy-set gentleman with gray hair is Al Peterson, who is the executive director of Two Rivers Authority.
00:55:41.000He physically cursed me out over the phone, told me I was way out in left field, was full of bovine feces, and told me exactly where I could go stuff myself and then hung up on me.
00:55:54.000Third time, I said I left him a message, and I said, sir, you're neither away from your phone.
00:55:58.000Nor are you dealing with another client who are deliberately ignoring a call from a concerned American patriot while you're harboring mercenaries on American soil.
00:56:17.000Well, you know, that's our summarization at this point, is that, you know, we've been observing these conditions as they magnify magnetomically on a daily basis.
00:56:24.000You know, everything that Obama has told us has been We need a private military force, a private police force that is just as well equipped and trained as our modern military.
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00:56:48.000And she told you, their spokeswoman, the former Billings Gazette reporter, now admittedly works, she said, oh, this is nationwide.
00:56:54.000She, in no uncertain terms, she was very evasive about it, but she slipped on a couple of occasions and said that they had, this is how they had done the evaluations for centers from Coastal.
00:57:03.000And then they won't say where their money comes from, but predominantly their corporate...
00:57:12.000Oh, and on the news they say hundreds.
00:57:18.000personnel are about to arrive, but no one can be told anything about them?
00:57:21.000The current statistics that we've been able to obtain is that there are approximately 50 to 60 current active agents for American police force within the boundaries of the United States, and they have approximately 1,600 operators worldwide.
00:57:34.000They claim to be able to land a battalion-sized, special forces-qualified element of troops within 72 hours anywhere globally.
00:57:41.000And that's, you know, a battalion, that's an awful lot of special forces-qualified troops.
00:57:47.000But, you know, the other thing that we're kind of leery about this whole thing is that, you know, when I directly approached her and I said, so what about these potential ties that we've discovered through our research on the internet that say that you were tied to corporations like Dynacor, like, you know, Three Canopies, or the Dynacor Blackwater Security, now known as XE. And she said, well, I'm not really at So this group may just be a cutout for a consortium of mercs.
00:58:15.000You know, basically what it is, is this is the smoke screen.
00:58:18.000When you go to penetrate your enemy's defensive lines, what you're going to do is probe their defenses first to find out where their strong points are.
00:58:24.000And you do that by creating extremely sensitive and extremely visible pockets of, you know, little things that you can see.
00:58:31.000From that point, you exploit the weaknesses.
00:58:34.000Well, yeah, we're getting calls about black SUVs, Humvees, troop movements all over that area.
00:58:40.000We're going to get more updates from you in the days to come when I'm on the ground in Montana.
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01:02:16.000Joining us, popping in with an update on his quest for 9-11 truth, his request for the president to read his 20 bullet points in 20 minutes with the president, and his quest to get the media to not distort what he said but actually debate him on fair terms, Charlie Sheen joins us.
01:03:05.000Unbelievable. So these knuckleheads would compile a list of, you know, singling out people that are, that are, that are, that are sort of It's amazing,
01:03:24.000and you know my film that the White House singles out exposes Bush and Obama and just says that Obama's continuing the wars, the Patriot Act, secret arrest, and that we wish Obama would keep his promises, and I guess I get on a list for this.
01:04:09.000They never really mentioned your specific bullet points, like six of the ten commission members saying that 9-11 was a cover-up, a hoax, a fraud, that there should be a criminal investigation.
01:04:21.000I know this has been frustrating for you and I. Can you speak to that?
01:04:27.000It's exactly what we anticipated would happen.
01:04:31.000That they would attack the man and not the facts.
01:04:35.000But it got so blatant that I think they really showed their hand in how they treated it and how they behaved around it.
01:04:45.000I think that sends such a huge message right there.
01:04:50.000That you and I put forth something that they just, as I said before, they couldn't disassemble, so they tried to disassemble me, you know?
01:05:01.000Absolutely. And it's a shame because, you know, we're not, you know, we're not naked shouting from the top of a building, come debate us.
01:05:10.000We're just, you know, we're issuing a very calm and reasonable offer to just sit down in an open and Debate forum and hash this thing out.
01:05:23.000And as you and I were talking yesterday, we did get a nibble.
01:05:27.000We got a nibble to O'Reilly's credit, but it's odd to put those two words in the same sentence, O'Reilly and credit.
01:05:37.000But it just we haven't reached an agreement on And this afternoon we're going to be publishing an article at PrisonPlanet.com that I and Paul Watson are going to be putting together.
01:05:52.000And specifically, now we can tell people what happened behind the scenes.
01:05:58.000Larry King Live contacted you, your publicist, they wanted to have you on but then they couldn't find anybody to come on and debate you.
01:06:09.000Uh, we also then, O'Reilly's people contacted and said, yeah, basically, come on our show and we'll slap you around and turn your mic off.
01:06:16.000Basically, you said no, we're going to be publishing that email.
01:06:19.000You said no, we want to do it neutral, where I get one minute, you get one minute.
01:06:24.000Uh, Good Morning America looked at it and then backed off of it.
01:06:28.000I guess that's the nibble because if they actually put you on TV, and I know this would be huge ratings, so there's no reason they shouldn't, except for the fact is we talked about, I'm just paraphrasing, you know, your, Well,
01:06:54.000no, I mean, yeah, I mean, I can't say that, but if you insist, then thank you.
01:07:00.000But, yeah, no, but as I said, I just think it's in keeping with Well it certainly is.
01:07:26.000Now maybe O'Reilly will agree to debate you somewhere or maybe even agree on his own show to have a moderator in and to have a real debate.
01:07:34.000I mean it would be as big as Vice President Gore debating Ross Perot, I guarantee it.
01:07:40.000I mean, they could definitely sell tickets to this thing, but they are afraid.
01:07:45.000Well, just like what we saw with Geraldo Rivera when he was on O'Reilly.
01:07:49.000I mean, they pulled out every stop or that other show that they have on in the middle of the night on Fox.
01:07:54.000I mean, this was the most brutal, savage, attempted character assassination I've ever seen.
01:08:01.000Yeah, it was even worse than the first go around back in March of 06.
01:08:06.000It's almost like they were sending a message, you know, we warned you back then, and now we're pulling out all the stops this time.
01:08:17.000But again, 90% of the comments, of the reader comments and of the viewer comments, everybody, at least 90%, they kept saying, look at his document, look at his document,
01:08:32.000Well, in the final equation, tens of millions of people conservatively read your letter,
01:09:06.000In the final equation, I have to say that the message I was trying to get out was As you said in the letter, you voted for Obama, you believe all the things he said he was going to do.
01:09:30.000Has he kept any of his promises, Charlie?
01:09:44.000Now he's saying Guantanamo is going to stay open and they're going to set up camps here in the U.S. Shifting gears here because I know you've got to get back on the set.
01:09:52.000You guys are rehearsing for Two and a Half Men, the top-rated comedy TV show right now.
01:10:06.000He is the guy that is going to watch the videos.
01:10:09.000Right. And people are going to have one month from next Monday.
01:10:14.000We're going to have a special website that we're building just for this.
01:10:16.000And I'll have the specific rules that Charlie and I are finalizing the next few days.
01:10:21.000But specifically, Charlie, what are you looking for in the winter here?
01:10:27.000I'm just looking for the most interesting interpretation of the material.
01:10:39.000I'm not looking for people to turn it into a song.
01:10:42.000That might be a little much, but I'm just looking for perhaps the most interesting interpretation, the most passionate interpretation, just something that you and I might not have thought of in imagining
01:12:19.000I know we're going to see hundreds and hundreds of entries.
01:12:21.000We've seen hundreds when I have a thousand dollar prize.
01:12:24.000And so in closing, I could paraphrase your idea, but we're doing this Obviously, so that there are hundreds of viral videos with the 20 bullet points and people can boil down the 15 pages or so.
01:12:39.000They don't have to read the entire document.
01:12:45.000Well, yeah, I'm hoping because there's been a bit of a lull since the publishing of the document and the launching of the video, I'm hoping that this brings it back to the forefront and floods the internet.
01:12:57.000with all these new videos and all this new energy and really is a slap in the face to Google and what they did to YouTube and what they did to that video.
01:13:09.000Yeah, they clearly put the brakes on it.
01:13:15.000Well, Charlie, I'm going to let you get back to what you're doing, but just to give people a little bit of a hint, this video contest is Phase 2, and throughout the future, just so people Yes, we are.
01:14:10.000Yeah, this guy has got a new idea, and I'm just going to leave it at that, that is much bigger than even the first.
01:14:18.000And believe me, now, by the way, I ended up staying up late again last night working on the Gardasil stories and researching what's happening with that and...
01:14:28.000Because we got so many hundreds of entries, I was not going to not watch them all.
01:15:08.000It's like I'm a mule trying to carry up a big bag of rocks on my back up a mountain, and I kind of slid down a little bit, but that's okay because I kicked.
01:15:15.000You ever seen a mule when it gets mad when it's trying to climb up a hill or something?
01:15:18.000It gets mad after it falls down and kicks back up the hill.
01:15:22.000I've done a little bit of cowboying, so I've seen horses and mules and stuff.
01:15:26.000Uh, you know, when they get mad, like they'll, you'll, well, let's be honest, I was always in there with a hot shot or dehorning them and a few times got on a horse but always got thrown off or hurt.
01:15:35.000The real cowboys, they'd be in there with these wild, uh, steers that have been out on a big ranch for years and never even been vaccinated or dehorned.
01:15:43.000They were getting ready for sale and they'd have incredible work horses and, and mules and they'd lasso, you know, one of those cows or bulls and start dragging them in with two horses or one horse and, you know, Sometimes that horse would get pulled back, and you'd see that horse get mad, and just bustles would pound out, and those horses would just start bucking, dragging a cow twice their size, a bull twice their size, just going wild!
01:16:05.000Anyways, that's where that analogy comes from, of seeing a horse when it gets pissed off.
01:17:50.000But look, It's just a little bit of satisfaction here in the face of all this danger to have the White House to be on their enemies list, to see that we're waking up Bruce Willis and Dave Mustaine and Charlie Sheen and Jesse Ventura and Willie Nelson and just countless other people.
01:18:06.000I can't even name here because they want to be private.
01:18:08.000People say, oh, what's it matter if you're waking up celebrities?
01:18:12.000And if the celebrities aren't fake right-wingers, or fake leftists anymore, and they woke it up to the paradigm, that is just a signpost, or an indicator, or a thermostat, showing you the Mercury's rising for liberty.
01:19:35.000Man, I walked out on my front porch last night and there were huge orange and red and pink thunderheads with the sunset hitting them, flashing with lightning.
01:20:23.000He's fudged since day one in this election.
01:20:26.000If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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01:23:35.000U.S. Ambassador Rice behind him was shaking.
01:23:38.000Henry Kissinger was shaking in the audience.
01:23:41.000This is the New World Order, the Eugenics World Government, now coming into fruition.
01:23:47.000We are joined by Dave Mustaine, the founder and lead guitarist and lead singer of Megadeth, guitarist, lead singer of Megadeth, Megadeth.com.
01:23:55.000The new album is in game, and I just want to say that growing up, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35 today, I have always loved Megadeth because the lyrics I didn't even really understand them when I was 12, 14, 15 years old, 20 years old, but then as I learned about the new world order, the eugenics, the master plan, it really did influence me and I didn't even realize how much it did.
01:24:20.000A man way before his time understanding what was coming.
01:24:23.000Most of their covers are about the UN and world government and now it's all happening.
01:24:37.000I have to be really careful when I do my interviews and talk about a lot of stuff because, you know, you have to be objective and you have to give people the right to think out of the box.
01:24:47.000But I think you and I agree on a lot of things and especially I want to tell you thanks for inspiring me to look into the whole Endgame film.
01:24:58.000And I actually had discovered this document through watching an inspirational video.
01:25:04.000And then, you know, I know we've spoken before.
01:25:07.000That was a privilege for me because I believe you're a patriot.
01:25:12.000I think our country needs more people like you.
01:25:16.000As far as having our record called Endgame, I think the best way to thank somebody is to bring credit where credit's due, so thanks.
01:25:41.000Almost. Now we just need one big boom.
01:25:45.000Well, I tell you, I mean, my wife is freaked out because she researches all this and she says, it's happening.
01:25:51.000It's world government, world taxes, world carbon taxes.
01:25:56.000We're going to go to break in a moment and some stations join us.
01:25:59.000But Dave, tell us about the new record that's coming out.
01:26:08.000Well, the new record we have recorded in a studio that I own in San Marcos, California.
01:26:13.000I moved back to San Diego after the lawsuit with Ellison.
01:26:18.000I just didn't want to be in the same city with him, so we moved.
01:26:21.000And then when I started doing this record, of course, I have a real free world kind of thinking with my lyrics and stuff, so it was just going to be more of the same with this record.
01:26:33.000Continuing my idea to raise awareness and to help people think.
01:26:38.000I may not be right, but I'm certainly right to inspire people to question.
01:26:44.000And this record has a lot of topics in it.
01:26:46.000It talks about the collapse of the financial institutions.
01:26:49.000I went to school and I got licensed by the state and federal government to work on Wall Street as a stockbroker.
01:26:55.000I figured, you know, being in the music business, most people in the music business aren't very smart when it comes to their money.
01:27:01.000So I wanted to be smart and educate myself about that.