Alex Jones speaks to David Icke about the crash of the dollar, the collapse of the global economy, and the end of the world as we know it. Alex Jones is a best-selling author, former BBC presenter, former champion goalie, and he is an icon of getting people to expand their awareness, to expand our horizons, to question little bubbles that the social engineers, the mind controllers, try to keep us in. He is a beacon of hope and inspiration to millions of people around the world.
00:00:22.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:26.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:31.000Well, he is a best-selling author, former BBC presenter, former champion goalie, and He's an icon of getting people to expand their awareness, to expand their horizons, to question little bubbles that the social engineers, the mind controllers, try to keep us in.
00:00:52.000Now, he's going to be on with us for a full hour, maybe even a little bit longer, next Monday.
00:00:57.000He's on a tour in the U.S., but I wanted to get him on today for just 30 minutes.
00:01:02.000To talk about the plunging dollar, the bringing in of the global currency, which is going to be an SDR bank-to-bank that he wrote about more than 12 years ago.
00:01:12.000What Obama is doing, what he's bringing in, how they announced the Internet's being turned over to a private global corporation, the dollar's being shut down, Obama's now the head of the United Nations Security Council, the real body with power.
00:01:25.000All these things are happening, and the great change is upon us as they expand the tyranny.
00:01:33.000But, in the middle of the darkness, the awakening is exponential.
00:01:37.000I'm seeing that, everyone I've talked to is seeing it, but David Icke's seeing it around the world.
00:01:41.000And a real focal point of this, and we salute him.
00:01:51.000I would imagine you'd like to talk about the dollar first, then we'll get into the larger clash of the titans, the clash of liberty and tyranny that we're beginning to see happen.
00:02:01.000Yeah, well, the crash of the dollar has been planned for a long, long, long, long time.
00:02:05.000It's all part of what I've been talking about for many, many years, which is how they're using America to destroy America.
00:02:13.000The idea was for America to be pulled into overseas wars that stretches them militarily, stretches them financially, crash the economy, because if you're a superpower and you have the military and financial might to say no to a world government, then the world government's not a tyranny across the world.
00:02:36.000It wants every single country subjugated.
00:02:39.000Therefore, any superpower with financial and military might To stand alone, or stand its ground, has to go.
00:02:49.000We're seeing the use of America to destroy America.
00:02:53.000In one way, America's being used in terms of its military to expand the agenda of conquest and control.
00:03:01.000But at the same time, it's being destroyed in the process.
00:03:05.000And we're now seeing countries that have been reported in the British media this week, like China and Japan and Russia, and even the The Arab countries starting to really move towards disconnecting the dollar from being the oil currency and the reserve currency.
00:03:24.000And, you know, the American economy, like the British one, actually, is it reminds me of You know in those cartoons when there's a chase going on, and eventually all the people in the chase run over the edge of the cliff, and for a while they keep running because they don't realize they've run out of land.
00:03:42.000And then someone looks down, realizes the land is gone, and then that awareness just, and they all fall and crash down into the ravine.
00:03:51.000And if people just looked at what the British and the American economy are, Standing on at this time.
00:04:01.000It's simple Illusion if there's nothing there that's holding it together and I've been saying Alex in September when they crashed it first of all that there's a three-stage process here and Let's first crash the economy, September 2008, make everyone see there's a big problem which needs a solution.
00:04:22.000The solution is stage two, and that is throwing enormous cuckoo land amounts of money, hosing money at the cause of the problem, the banks, so it disappears in a great black hole.
00:04:35.000And the idea of stage two is to empty the barrels of government in terms of having any response to the economic situation that they're facing.
00:04:45.000In other words, empty their pockets, end their credit lines, and then stage three, which is waiting in the wings, and that's to crash the economy on an even bigger scale than in September 2008, at which point there's no response from governments because they have no response.
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00:08:09.000The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.
00:08:14.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
00:08:17.000David Icke's our guest for the next 20 minutes or so.
00:08:29.000And we've got David for a full hour next Monday.
00:08:32.000We'll tell you about the events here in the United States and Arizona, New Mexico, other places.
00:08:42.000Recap, David, the controlled implosion of the dollar that you've been writing about for over a decade.
00:08:47.000The globalists have bragged that to make way for world government, And I hear him brag about this on NPR, that we can't have a high standard of living, that that hurts the environment to have more than one child, our carbon footprint, babies are bad.
00:09:00.000And at the UN Climate Summit in 92, Maurice Strong said, we must destroy industrial society.
00:09:08.000So they always said they wanted to have a fiat banking system, get everybody so in debt, That there's more debt than there is real tangible assets in the world.
00:09:17.000And now they've got conservatively, according to economists we've had on, between 500 and 1,000 times more fiat debt they've made.
00:09:26.000That the banks use to buy things, then there are real assets in all the world at their highest value.
00:09:38.000economic decline forges new world order.
00:09:41.000Hundreds of other headlines about how good the new world order is, how America's now going to get it, how the Arabs and Russia and China are teaming up.
00:09:48.000But meanwhile, the same central banks that own them, the global controllers, They're orchestrating all this.
00:09:54.000So David, break down the three phases you talk about, starting last year with a controlled banking implosion, stealing the $23.7 trillion, saying that it was going into the secret coffers, never spending it on the mortgages, and now where we're going from here.
00:10:10.000Yeah, well, like I say, it's planned to be in three stages and they're becoming, you know, blatant to crash the economy in September 2009 so that everyone sees there's a problem and there's a problem to address.
00:10:23.000So the way they address it is stage two, which is hosing trillions, staggering amounts of credit money, fiat money, at the cause of the problem, the banks.
00:10:34.000The idea being, and of course ask the Federal Reserve and they'll confirm, it's gone into a black hole and no one knows where it's gone.
00:10:43.000And phase two is about emptying the barrels of governments, emptying the pockets of governments, bringing an end to the credit lines of governments so they have no further manoeuvre of response to what is coming in stage three.
00:10:59.000And that is to crash the economy on a scale that, you know, makes September 2008 look like a tea party.
00:11:07.000And the figures you're talking about, Alex, in terms of the fresh air money in relation to real resources, that's the enormous staggering bubble that they're going to use to cause Stage 3 and crash Stage 3.
00:11:22.000And the idea is to destroy America militarily and financially so that it is subjugated.
00:11:30.000It comes down to its knees and then has to go cap in hand with the beggar bowl to people like China and these other countries that are conspiring now to bring an end to America as we know it.
00:11:43.000And then they will do what they're told so they will be absorbed into the world system and absorbed into the North American Union, absorbed into a new currency.
00:11:54.000This is all part of it because it's simple.
00:11:56.000If something's working, you ain't going to justify changing it.
00:12:00.000If you want to change something, you've got to destroy it.
00:12:03.000You've got to make sure it's not working so you open people's minds to accepting, hey, we've got no choice.
00:12:13.000Britain declared war on Germany in 1939.
00:12:17.000There was eight months when nothing happened.
00:12:20.000It became known to history as the Phony War.
00:12:23.000Well, the Phony War in terms of this conspiracy is over.
00:12:27.000We're now at a point where we're gonna need to start engaging this, and with swine flu and the economy and all the rest of it, David, let's go over that.
00:12:35.000The idea is to throw everything at us in a short period of time, short period of years, to bring about this global change very quickly because Humanity is just exhausted, frightened, terrified.
00:12:51.000That's why we must stay strong, and we must not be subjugated by this, and not fall to fear and give our power away as a result.
00:13:00.000Well, David, I want you to walk through that step by step, and I totally agree with you on the time we have left with you today, but I want to go back and just point out You eloquently laid out what's happening, but this is not your opinion.
00:13:13.000This is all in IMF, World Bank documents.
00:14:08.000I mean everything, as you said, is a quickening.
00:14:11.000It has gone a quantum level leap into into Maoist level hell.
00:14:17.000They are definitely launching their operations.
00:14:20.000So go through that, go through the flu, go through what David Icke sees happening, but also as the tyranny comes in like a flood, liberty is coming in, the mass awakening you're witnessing.
00:14:31.000The thing is that it's a simple equation.
00:14:35.000The more you centralize power, the more power you have to centralize even quicker.
00:14:40.000And that's why the process of centralization has got faster and faster and faster through the 20th century, eventually reaching the point where it was so blatant it was given a name, globalization.
00:14:51.000And as more and more power has been centralized, it's had the power to centralize quicker.
00:14:55.000So the whole thing is getting faster and faster.
00:14:58.000And the other thing, I mean, we've only got half an hour today, Alex, but You know, it's something that I've been writing about and getting much, much deeper and more understanding about as the days pass now.
00:15:09.000You know, when people look at the speed and all those things you absolutely rightly detail there, you look at the speed in which all this is coming in, in all these different areas of our lives, in all the different fine detail of our lives, and it's coming in in a coordinated way, to a coordinated time scale, This is not people sitting around a table saying, what's our next move, guys?
00:15:50.000It's in a far less extreme state than it would otherwise be if we do nothing.
00:15:56.000David, I want you to get into that kind of a brief overview.
00:15:58.000We'll cover it more on Monday and talk about your new book and some of the events coming up, but a point you just made about how this is coordinated.
00:16:08.000They are banning Homeschooling in Australia, England, the U.S., or attempting to, simultaneously, with the same PR, with the word-for-word same scripts, and I see it in the local news, they are banning neighbors, including police officers, keeping each other's children, period.
00:16:56.000But actually, it's a very simple structure.
00:16:59.000It's like a transnational corporation.
00:17:02.000You've got the headquarters, which is overwhelmingly in Europe, and then you've got the subsidiary companies of the headquarters in each country.
00:17:11.000Instead of corporations, although they're part of it, of course, it's secret society networks.
00:17:17.000So you've got a global secret society network with a spider at the center, overwhelmingly at operational level in old Europe.
00:17:24.000And then in each country, like the United States, you have a subsidiary network of secret societies controlled by the bloodline families, And their job is to introduce the centrally dictated global agenda in their sphere of influence by controlling that country's banking, media ownership, the corporations, the cartels, etc.
00:17:48.000And so this is how they can do it globally, as you've rightly described in this coordination.
00:17:55.000It's because in each country, these subsidiary networks of secret societies are introducing the centrally dictated agenda.
00:18:03.000So of course, because they're all doing it, it's happening in every country at the same time.
00:18:10.000And the idea is to subjugate humanity on a scale that would make all world wins.
00:18:16.000There's one area, Alex, that really does need a lot of focus on, because I've been seeing so much around the world at different aspects of this, and that's how the state is after our children.
00:18:29.000You know, when you look at Aldous Huxley, a member of the Fabian Society, one of these strands in the web, a major one actually, in his book Brave New World, he was talking about public state hatcheries to produce the children and that the children were parted from their parents.
00:18:48.000What you're seeing is change after change after change, what I call the totalitarian tiptoe, step by step by step, which is giving the state more and more control and influence over our children and taking it more and more away from our parents.
00:19:02.000So when Obama came out, outrageously in the last week or so, and called for children to spend more time at school and for school holidays to be shortened, etc., because we have to do this for America.
00:19:13.000No, no, Mr. Obama, you have to do this for the agenda of the masters that you dance to the tune of, because it's about taking more time away from children with their parents, taking away more parental influence, more individuality influence, so the state's all-encompassing blob mind program can so the state's all-encompassing blob mind program can get more access to their minds for longer.
00:19:35.000And this is why in Britain, I'm sure it's happening in America too, I'm sure you'll confirm this, but in Britain we're having children taken away from their parents by social services.
00:19:45.000In fact, I know it's happening in America because I've done some research recently on it.
00:19:51.000For instance, we've had a couple, they spent £38,000 on fertility treatment to have a child.
00:19:59.000When the social services came round after the child was born, just a very, very small baby, the mother joked that the birth had ruined her figure, just to laugh.
00:20:09.000They took her children away, and they're still taking her children away.
00:20:12.000And then what the social services say is, if you want to see your children at all, like once a month or so, then You must not challenge our decision, otherwise you're never going to see them again.
00:20:36.000It is all scientifically... I've had Charlotte Isserby, the former head of the Department of Education Policy, that was the plan in the 80s, was to end the family, it's all on record, that's what they say in eco-science, end the family, raise everybody in dormitories, sterilize us through the water supply, through the vaccines, and yes, simultaneously, Now if you yell at your child, don't run out on the road, that's abuse.
00:21:01.000They take your children, no judge, no jury, no due process, and we know the family courts were set up as eugenics courts in England, Germany, and the U.S.
00:21:10.000And absolutely, they're now saying you can't babysit your neighbor's kids, you can't talk to your neighbor's kids unless you have a government license, and I talk to people that live in England, it's happened to me when I've been there, they come up to you and ask, why are you walking your dog?
00:21:46.000I was witnessing it without even looking, David.
00:21:52.000I know, and you know, it's interesting, the more I research this and the more I go down these different channels of control, manipulation and imposition, the more times the name Rothschild ends up at the end of it, you know.
00:22:08.000This whole mind manipulation, Brave New World, and all the rest of it, this social engineering, comes out of the Frankfurt School in Germany, which moved then into America to change the face of America.
00:22:22.000The Frankfurt School was fundamentally connected to the House of Rothschild.
00:22:27.000The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations is another face of this, or another mask on its face.
00:22:34.000And then you go through the banking system, which is happening now.
00:22:36.000The Rothschilds have controlled the banking system globally for centuries.
00:22:42.000And more and more, as time has come to the present day, we need to focus on this dynasty because it really is at the core, the spider of this whole web.
00:22:55.000So, you know, once upon a time, as you well know, Everyone knew about the Rothschilds' power.
00:23:01.000What they've done through the latter part of the 20th century is hidden behind front organizations, front nominee directors, all the ways that they do it, to hide the extent of their power.
00:23:13.000It's like the Rothschilds are not as powerful as they used to be.
00:23:18.000They're more powerful than they've ever been.
00:23:20.000Well, that's what I've researched, is every time I research a group, a power group, a takeover, the environmental movement, the carbon tax, it's always Rothschild, which is intermarried with the British Royals.
00:23:30.000Are you saying they're greater than the German House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha?
00:23:34.000You're saying at the very center is the Rothschilds.
00:23:37.000I'm saying that at operational level, all roads lead to the Rothschilds.
00:23:42.000You see, you know, you've only got to do some simple background research, never mind detailed background research, into Israel, and you realize very quickly, from the start, Israel is not Israel, the land of the Jews, it's Rothschild land.
00:23:57.000The Jews are being played like a violin in Israel, and being set up for some appalling things in the future.
00:24:06.000Because the Rothschilds own the place.
00:24:09.000The Rothschilds control the American government.
00:24:11.000That's why the American government gives fantastic, extraordinary amounts of money to that small sliver of land called Israel, including enormous military spending.
00:24:22.000It's because if the same force controls both countries' governments, Then one hand of the force says give the money and one hand of the force puts its hand out and says thank you very much for it.
00:24:34.000This is why Israel has nuclear weapons.
00:24:37.000And we have this, Alex, tell me it's not true, but it is, this policy, official policy in America, not to ask them if they have them.
00:24:46.000Obama's just confirmed that he's going to continue to that.
00:24:49.000So we're saying, oh, great danger to the world, Iran, or they might develop a nuclear weapon.
00:24:54.000And then we've got this fantastic nuclear arsenal in Israel, of course, who have never been slow in using high-tech weaponry.
00:25:03.000That's what we had at the head of the International Energy Agency, Nuclear Energy Agency, Atomic Energy Agency, this week saying that the biggest threat to the Middle East is the nuclear arsenal of Israel.
00:25:17.000Mordecai Ben-Nunu, an Israeli who worked in the nuclear industry, of course, he came out, spoke to a British newspaper, the Sunday Times, I think it was, some many, many years ago now, decades ago.
00:25:36.000He was kidnapped by Mossad and jailed for 18 years.
00:25:40.000Now, David, we've only got five minutes left with you.
00:25:43.000You said you've got big news for us Monday about the mass awakening that's happening, also the center of the spiderweb, also your new book coming out.
00:25:53.000The takeover of the family is the key.
00:25:54.000If they're able to tell people that they don't have free association... The takeover of the family is absolutely the key, because what's happening, Alex, is that they're targeting anything that holds people together.
00:26:05.000You know, I'm seriously not into religion, you know that, but for many people, So they're targeting anything that holds people together because they don't want any structure of us coming together.
00:26:22.000They want to divide us, keep us apart and keep us lost and bewildered.
00:26:27.000But, for the first time ever, in major polls, 75% are hired.
00:26:45.000Oh yeah, I think that's a surprise, isn't it, Blair?
00:26:47.000You know, you've got to be a war criminal before you can be President of Europe, of course.
00:26:53.000But the good news is, and I want you to speak to this, is that People now are addressing the shadow government, the private banking cartel, and I don't see that being reversed, even by staged wars, or bioweapons releases, or Tony Blair running Europe.
00:27:12.000They have not spent 24-7, for decade after decade after decade, keeping humanity dumbed down and keeping us in ignorance of what's going on, because it's a bit of fun.
00:27:24.000They've done it because they know we have the numbers.
00:27:28.000They may have the military, they may have law enforcement, they may have the media, they may have all of these things, but we've got the numbers.
00:27:35.000Because the number of people in full knowledge and full awareness of what they're doing is a fraction, a tiny fraction of the number of people on this planet.
00:27:42.000And what terrifies them is enough of those people waking up and seeing what's happening.
00:28:16.000It may not seem like it, it won't seem like it for a while, but we're getting there and we will get there.
00:28:20.000Yes, but that makes it doubly dangerous for the New World Order and for humanity, because I agree with you.
00:28:26.000Until about five, six years ago, they were arrogant, they were haughty, at least their servants were.
00:28:30.000Obviously, the cold-blooded controllers behind the scenes are very serious, really tuned into their Luciferian force.
00:28:36.000According to their own statements and understood, but even their minions now are scared, which is kind of a negative thing, because now they're actually really working hard, really trying to accelerate it, so it's a catch-22.
00:28:47.000It's proving everything we said as they announced open world government, exactly as we said they would, run exactly as we said it would be.
00:28:55.000So that's giving us great credibility, but the time is short, because we're under full-scale launch.
00:29:00.000Give us, in the last minute we've got, David, where you're speaking and what you think the time frame is on this whole implosion.
00:29:18.000And then I'm speaking in Phoenix, which will probably be the last time I speak in America for a while because of the way things are going in my life and circumstances.
00:29:26.000That's on the 17th of October, the Saturday, week on Saturday.
00:29:30.000And again, I'll be speaking for eight hours.
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00:34:25.000We are joined here in just a second by Max Keiser, who, of course, is the host of the BBC Oracle, host of Al Jazeera shows, host of Press TV, host of Russia Today, the inventor of the Hollywood Stock Exchange, produced TV shows with Alec Baldwin, really knows his stuff, not from the left-right paradigm, but exposing corporate communism, as he calls it.
00:34:48.000So he really gave a devastating interview to Russia today that I really think in five minutes boiled it all down.
00:34:53.000We're gonna be talking to Max and picking his brain a little bit more about what's really happening with this dollar.
00:34:57.000Is this the final plunge or is this just the beginning of the dead cat bounce downwards and what will a dollar collapse?
00:35:04.000Either gradual or more Quickly collapsing, fastest in a year.
00:35:09.000We've already seen quite a collapse the last few years.
00:36:26.000And really, it's a great buy across the board.
00:36:30.000Alex, what's going on right now in the market, though, is that our business volume has at least hiked by 10 times of where it was just a month ago.
00:36:38.000And every single dealer across the United States is experiencing the very same thing, and we're all fighting over the same items out there in the marketplace.
00:36:46.000So your 36 brokers, as you told me last night, are up there until midnight.
00:37:22.000I mean, when you watch the dollar do what it's doing right now, and the foreign market's doing what they're doing, people are just concerned about their money that they put away for retirement and their savings accounts, the money that they have in the stock market, et cetera, et cetera, and they're turning it over to gold and silver, and the demand is bigger than the supply.
00:37:42.000Now tell people briefly, because we're going to Max Keiser, the coins you have at the lower price and what you bought these coins at in the market versus what it is now, the type of savings.
00:37:52.000Well, I'm edging up to the supply that I picked up at that $9.94 level.
00:37:55.000Now, we were looking at the $9.88 stuff yesterday.
00:37:59.000The francs currently at $2.36 will be adjusted higher as soon as this stuff goes.
00:38:03.000British sovereigns will go higher as well.
00:38:05.000So you're still getting something at below the $1,000 level when it's cresting at $1,050.
00:38:11.000That is a crazy Eddie level good deal.
00:38:35.000But you're very competitive, and you like blasting the competition, and if you buy gold lower and silver go lower, why not sell it at the lower price instead of doing what most people do, jacking it up?
00:38:46.000That's why you're growing so fast, Ted.
00:38:48.000That's why we hear your ads on national radio and TV.
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00:40:02.000Well, you know, Alex, Robert Fisk had a great story in The Independent in the UK this week, and he was talking about the oil-producing nations in the world, they want to get out of pricing oil in dollars.
00:40:18.000They want to start pricing oil in a new currency, a basket of currencies.
00:40:24.000Anything but the dollar, because the dollar gives the U.S.
00:40:30.000a really unfair advantage in the world markets, because any country that wants to buy oil, they first have to buy dollars, because oil only trades in dollars.
00:40:40.000And this is a very unfair advantage that the U.S.
00:40:44.000And what these countries are noticing, countries like China, Russia, Iran, is that the U.S.
00:40:51.000is using the profits that they're making from this monopoly pricing power of the dollar and the price of oil, and what's called seniorage, which is they basically get a commission on all the dollars that they're producing.
00:41:05.000They're using the profits to fund their wars, to fund the Pentagon, to fund the invasion of Iraq or the invasion of Afghanistan, or now it looks like the invasion of Iran.
00:41:18.000And the thing about Iran is that Iran and China signed an $8 billion deal for oil with Iran.
00:41:27.000So China is thinking, even though they are heavily connected to the dollar and their economy has grown as a result of tying their currency to the dollar, they're thinking that now it's time to divorce themselves from the dollar.
00:41:44.000It's time to kick America to the curb.
00:41:47.000And it's time for these other countries to stretch their wings and take over in terms of the new superpowers.
00:41:56.000And Robert Fisk basically makes that point in his independent article, and I can confirm Pretty much what he's been saying is the same thing I'm hearing here in Paris and my contacts in the Mideast.
00:42:08.000That, in fact, a new currency is being formulated, a new currency that will be represented by a basket of currencies.
00:42:15.000The only couple of things that Robert Fisk mentioned that I would add is that he mentioned that gold would be one of the components of the new currency.
00:42:25.000But what I'm hearing is that gold could represent as much as 50% of the basket in the new currency.
00:42:31.000And this is what's driving gold higher now, because banks and central banks have stopped selling their gold, and the investment banks and Wall Street and other places are starting to accumulate gold.
00:43:48.000All those investors and people out there that want to know what's happening, because you are there in that major crossroads of Paris.
00:43:54.000But before we get to that, you know, there's something larger going on here.
00:44:00.000I read Club of Rome and UN documents and Rockefeller documents 15 years ago.
00:44:05.000That they'd written years before that, you know, 20 years ago.
00:44:09.000That they plan to use the U.S., use us as a military to set up world government, then blame everything on us, implode the dollar, and bring in a new bank-to-bank currency, and then have regional currencies.
00:44:21.000They don't want to have one global currency that they manipulate and play the markets on a global scale, so there's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, and that now Russia and China are basically owned and controlled by these interests, and that the U.S.
00:44:34.000Is just having all the debt piled on it, and that they're preparing to kind of seal the deal, or swap spit, or become blood brothers by torturing the U.S.
00:46:35.000And this is just setting up the dollar as really the leper with the most fingers.
00:46:43.000Or I should say it's the leper with the least fingers.
00:46:47.000It's a currency that nobody wants anymore, and they're putting in place these other Currencies, and they're looking at gold because gold is the only way that they can have any accountability and that they can have any way of hoping to escape all of the debt-meisters that are on Wall Street.
00:47:05.000Yeah, not being shy-stood by the money-changers that are always creating tens of trillions in fiat money and then using it as weapons, economic and military weapons, against them.
00:47:14.000Now, the vampires of central banking, the best, the dirtiest throughout of Europe and the U.S., obviously, but China and other people play their games.
00:47:23.000The Arabs have their own system of banking, but they don't allow the usury.
00:47:26.000We're up to 30% loan-sharking rates here in the U.S.
00:47:31.000So much so that people are kicking the habit and going to debit cards.
00:47:34.000Debit cards for Visa this week finally passed more use than credit cards, so that's something healthy.
00:47:40.000But will the Goldman Sachs vampires just move on after they've eaten the bones off of the United States, or are they dependent?
00:47:49.000I mean, is this their Transylvanian earth?
00:47:52.000Is England, Israel, the United States, Germany, France, is that Count Dracula's earth that he can go anywhere, but he's got to haul those caskets around?
00:48:02.000I mean, is there any way to kill the vampire?
00:48:10.000In other words, the thing that Goldman Sachs and these guys on Wall Street hate is gold and silver because it's the opposite of a fiat money system.
00:48:20.000You know, I've told people for years now, if they want to kill Goldman Sachs deader than a hammer, as you might say, If everyone bought one ounce of gold bullion, and the price traded immediately up to its inflation-adjusted normal price of $2,000 an ounce, it would remove 90% of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan's ability to spin cotton-canny derivatives.
00:48:41.000You know, pulling it out of their backsides, and claiming that this has some validity in the market.
00:48:48.000And that's why they just hate gold, and that's why they've done everything since Milton Friedman, and Alan Greenspan, and Ben Bernanke, and Tim Geithner.
00:48:55.000All their rhetoric, all their white papers, all their doctoral dissertations have all been about the greatness of fiat currency and fractional reserve banking, and why gold is dead.
00:49:06.000Now what's happening, now let me get into this.
00:49:07.000What's happening is that these countries that are gold, that are petroleum exporters, are saying, enough is enough.
00:49:13.000We don't care what the risks are at this point, because we're sick of America's wars.
00:49:19.000We're sick of all the market manipulation.
00:49:20.000We're sick of Goldman Sachs manipulating the Comex and the NYMEX.
00:49:24.000We're just going to introduce our own basket, our own currency.
00:49:33.000dollar still had some tenuous connection to gold, but there really hasn't been a gold- But Max, the last time they did that, the globalists blew the hell out of Iraq, saying they had WMDs.
00:49:44.000Now the Arabs are getting ready to do it again, and notice, they found secret reactors that the Easter Bunny laid.
00:49:52.000You know, Iraq said that they wanted to start trading oil in Euros, and the next thing you know, we're shocking off.
00:50:00.000And then Iran starts saying, we want to trade our oil in Euros, and suddenly, you know, the game was moved over to Iran.
00:50:10.000But here's what I'm hearing, and this is kind of the interesting story, if you will.
00:50:14.000You know, Stacey Herbert and I made a really interesting film a couple years ago about gold, and we interviewed folks over at the Bundesbank in Germany.
00:50:24.000And at that time, it was revealed to us, anyway, that there are 3,000 tons of gold.
00:50:31.000Much of it was held outside of Germany and held, in fact, in the United States.
00:50:36.000What I'm hearing now, Alex, is that Germany, like France did back in the 60s, they're gonna demand their gold bullion delivered to them.
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00:56:32.000the trailer for the new trailer that's got you in the end of it going the matches you know these are arsonists and they're asking congress for more matches they say who do we send the check to who do we send the check to here you need more matches how many more matches is a ton of matches good do you like that trailer max geyser uh it's a brilliant trailer and i think the part that i'm in is especially brilliant i must say well it is the closer it is especially brilliant yeah no i think it's uh your last film uh the obama deception
00:57:02.000You know, that came during a time when I was still, you know, basically at one foot in the Obama camp.
00:57:10.000And now I have both feet out of the Obama camp.
00:57:15.000You know, that was really a bold film to make at the time, because a lot of people were still in love with Obama, and he had really hypnotized everybody into thinking that he was really different than the preceding nightmare in the White House.
00:57:29.000And, you know, I was half-fooled, I must say.
00:57:33.000Now this film, For All The Republic, I think is going to take it further.
00:57:36.000I think, you know, it's interesting, Alex, is that I think your film is going to be a lot more hard-hitting than that Michael Moore film, Capitalism, A Love Story.
00:57:44.000I think he's kind of a cream puff attacking the problems.
00:57:48.000I think your film is going to be a lot more hard-hitting because don't you have John Perkins in the film, The Economic Hitman?
00:57:57.000Okay, so I think it's going to be a lot more hard-hitting, but anyway, getting back to the dollar, you know, the U.S.
00:58:03.000dollar, these countries, the oil exporters, they want to get out, they want to get another currency to compete, basically, with the U.S.
00:58:13.000Their objective, quite simply, is to, they want to, they're being competitive, they want to put the U.S.
00:58:19.000economy out of business, which means that they want to put the U.S.
00:58:22.000dollar out of business, and they can do so because This new era is an era that's going to be dominated by countries that actually have resources, and we're talking about oil, we're talking about natural resources, and those countries that have been living on creating mortgage-backed, collateralized debt obligations.
00:58:41.000All right, stay there, because the last break interrupted you on the missing gold and de Gaulle, then you went back on the dollar.
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01:01:31.000And then Britain, because France was very nervous about the way that the U.S.
01:01:38.000was going in heavily into debt to pay for the Vietnam War.
01:01:42.000And so then Britain was next in line to start demanding their gold, and then at that point, 1971, Nixon said, no, no, we're going to close the gold window.
01:01:53.000And this was the beginning, really, of the era of fiat currencies, and the beginning, really, of the era of derivatives, because shortly thereafter in Chicago, they started trading options based on the black and shawl option derivative volatility formula.
01:02:09.000And you have now the modern era of derivatives, which is an era of making money from transactions and not making money from actually doing anything like it would resemble business.
01:02:20.000And this has led to incredible booms and incredible busts that we've had ever since then.
01:02:26.000You've got just a flash forward to modern times.
01:02:29.000You have the dot-com boom, the real estate crash, the real estate boom and crash, now the banking boom and crash.
01:02:35.000And now these countries that are emerging like Russia, China, Iran are saying, we know what's going on here.
01:02:42.000is simply printing up lots of phony baloney money to pay for their debts.
01:02:47.000And this is not what we're going to be on board for because we're using all this money also to finance your wars.
01:02:53.000So the one way we're going to stop you from financing wars... It's basically the way that Iran, China, and Russia are going to stop America from invading Iran is they're going to crash the dollar.
01:03:03.000I mean, that's global financial warfare.
01:03:38.000to attack Iran because it's going to implode the dollar and it's going to force countries like Germany to demand all their gold bullion back from New York.
01:03:46.000Tim Geithner's old bank, the New York Fed.
01:03:49.000And they're going to show up, and they're going to demand their gold bullion, and gold bullion is going to skyrocket, and all these banks are going to be completely put out of their fiat currency, money-spinning games, and they're going to have another huge down leg in markets, but this is a clear... Max, I have a quick question.
01:04:07.000Robert Fisk in his article for The Independent.
01:04:09.000You know, Robert Fisk is a great journalist.
01:04:11.000He's talking about the oil producing exporting countries are going to start trading oil in dollars.
01:04:19.000And what I would add to that is you've got now Germany in response to the chaos that's going to result in terms of the dollar.
01:04:26.000It's going to demand We made that film, Alex, it's on the web.
01:04:30.000I forget what the name of the film is, but you see me in the Bundesbank in Berlin.
01:04:35.000I'm talking to officials inside the Bundesbank, and we have like a hidden camera, and they're saying to us things that they, you know, revealed, things that were quite revealing in terms of who owns the gold, where's the gold.
01:04:47.000The Gold Antitrust Action Committee put out a letter just two weeks ago, which they picked up on the story.
01:04:54.000And they inquired to the Bundesbank to make a comment about this film and to confirm where the gold has been held.
01:05:03.000There's also a movement about the audits.
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01:06:41.000You know the government isn't looking out for you.
01:08:39.000Okay, Max, I want to have the world premiere here of a new trailer dealing with television mind control for Fall of the Republic, and I want to air the new trailer we aired yesterday, too.
01:08:51.000The next week we've got another trailer on the financial section that's about a third of the film that also has you in it.
01:08:57.000But finishing up, what will it look like through a gradual death of the dollar, you're saying it's baked into the cake to quote you, versus a fast one?
01:09:14.000Well, the protection, obviously, is to be into precious metals, as I've been saying for five years.
01:09:23.000You know, my average cost in gold is, I think, $420 an ounce.
01:09:27.000And I've been saying, basically, the only thing I've recommended in the last four to five years is gold, gold bullion, and it's an excellent place to be as we go forward.
01:09:38.000dollar is coming under a lot of economic pressure.
01:09:43.000It's also coming under a lot of political pressure, and that's something that a lot of people who are pure economists are not factoring into their analysis.
01:09:48.000They're not factoring in the fact that the dollar has become a weapon.
01:09:53.000The currency market is where this World War III is being fought.
01:09:57.000And so they're looking at charts, and they're looking at analysis, and they're looking at their textbooks, but nothing in these charts and textbooks really covers when you use currencies as a weapon.
01:10:08.000And that's what we're seeing happen now.
01:10:10.000The people in, as I said, Russia, Iran, and China are saying, the way we're going to stop America from invading Iran is we're going to smoke the U.S.
01:10:23.000to go into a major economic downspin as a way to engage in economic warfare.
01:10:28.000That's the way World War III is going to be fought.
01:10:31.000Now, for y'all, as I've been saying, gold bullion is the place to be.
01:10:36.000The dollar is, at the very least, it's going to be extremely volatile.
01:10:41.000You're just going to start to see 10%, 20% moves every, you know, can be compressed into very short periods of time.
01:10:48.000And that's going to be very scary for people.
01:10:50.000But, again, if you're defensive and you've got some gold or silver bullion, you're going to have a, you know, that's the place to be during this period of extreme volatility.
01:11:13.000We're not talking about a concept that might happen in a few years.
01:11:16.000We're saying right now, look at what happened the last two weeks.
01:11:20.000You had a G20 meeting, a G7 meeting, a monetary fund was meeting, the UN was meeting, and they're all talking about the same thing, what to do about the dollar.
01:11:30.000All these guys, while the kids in America are sitting playing with their hula hoops and their, you know, the latest video games, the parents, their parents being the IMF, the World Bank and the G7, are in the kitchen, sitting around the kitchen table deciding what to do with these kids in America and their dollar and their currency.
01:11:47.000So the kids are going to wake up one day and find out that, oops, mommy and daddy decided to devalue the dollar by 50%.
01:11:54.000Oh, I guess that means everything is going to cost twice as much, and I guess we're now in the third world.
01:12:00.000But they're making those decisions right now.
01:12:02.000And it's tragic that the mainstream media in America is not telling the people in America what is being discussed at G7, G4, G20 right now.
01:12:11.000They're deciding America's future right now, in the back rooms of these meetings right now.
01:12:17.000And obviously, with China, Iran, and Russia, they're not They're not being coy about it.
01:12:24.000They're coming out there and they're saying, you know what?
01:12:26.000We're sick of you market-manipulating, you know, folks in the U.S.
01:12:31.000And now, you know, guns are drawn, we're going to start attacking this dollar, and we're going to start buying up gold aggressively.
01:12:37.000And Germany's caught in the middle, and they're saying, oh my God, we've got like 3,000 tons of our gold in New York, we want it back!
01:12:43.000When Germany makes that announcement, gold's going to go to, you know, it's going to have a huge move.
01:12:49.000CNBC is now predicting $2,000 an ounce gold saying their charts show that.
01:12:58.000That's up on PrisonPlanet.com, one of the top stories.
01:13:04.000You've got a fraction of the public waking up that gold is important and that actually has intrinsic value and can't be devalued completely.
01:13:12.000And it's probably only going to go up and is going up right now.
01:13:15.000What is going to happen when the yuppies decide gold is cool?
01:13:22.000Well, that's what I was talking to at the top of the show.
01:13:26.000If, in fact, the powers that be on Wall Street, Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan, if they figure out that the easiest bubble to try to inflate to pay themselves huge Christmas bonuses this year or next year, if they decide it's gold, then it could go... Really, as we used to say on Wall Street, there is no top.
01:13:52.000So it could be like Google stock going from $20 to $500?
01:13:57.000You know, when I was working on Wall Street, you know, and I worked on Wall Street in one capacity or another during the boom of the 80s, during the dot-com of the 90s, and you know, you had in the 90s the dot-com stocks that would go public at $16 and trade to $300.
01:14:15.000And then they return back to, you know, 16 again.
01:14:19.000So gold could be, if they decide that gold, and gold hasn't been in the bear market up until just the past few years.
01:14:27.000During the entire bull market down on Wall Street that started in 1982, Gold just went down every single year because nobody wanted it, and it was being trashed by all the central banks who were selling gold to buy T-bills to use as collateral to create collateralized debt obligations and credit default swaps, and this huge Ponzi scheme that became the U.S.
01:14:47.000and global market that hit the skids in the summer of 2007 when Chuck Prince, CEO of Citigroup, said, you know, as long as the music's playing, we're going to keep dancing.
01:14:57.000And then that week, The DNP came out of the report saying, our hedge funds have a lot of junk bonds in there and we don't think the value is 100 cents to the dollar.
01:15:08.000And that was the beginning of what we now know as the financial crisis that we're all suffering from today.
01:15:13.000Now, there was an attempt back in the latter part of last year to inject $12 or $13 trillion worth of new loans into the economy, and you're seeing the stock market bounce.
01:15:26.000And you're seeing some quote-unquote green shoots, but now that all these stimulus packages have ended, the clunkers, cash for clunkers, etc., now we're going back to reality, when the reality is that all that Obama and these guys did was just layer another few trillion dollars worth of debt on top of the debt layer cake, and the whole thing is just, it didn't stop it from collapsing, and we'll go right back to where we were last year and the year before.
01:15:51.000By the end, within six months, there's going to be banks Going to Congress saying, if you don't give us another five trillion dollars, we're going to do another, we're going to do a suicide mission, we're going to blow ourselves up.
01:16:01.000Which is what Paulson did, if you remember.
01:16:02.000He said, give us seven hundred billion dollars, we're going to blow up this entire economy.
01:16:06.000He was like one of these suicide bombers in front of Congress, and he strapped on like five trillion dollars worth of derivative contracts, and he was going to explode in everyone's face.
01:16:14.000And now, you know, that's going to come again.
01:16:16.000So, you know, the point being that The rest of the world is saying, hold on, we've seen this movie before, we don't want to play this game anymore, we've got the oil, you don't have the oil.
01:16:30.000Plus, you know, a lot of these countries are dealing with the fact that, I don't know if you've followed this or not, Alex, but I think it may go against some of your orthodoxy, but the fact is, in countries like Mexico, which is one of the three biggest oil fields in the world, Cantero, Their production is nosediving.
01:16:50.000And these big fields around the world, I know we may have a slight conflict on our thoughts on this, but these big oil fields around the world, their production numbers are diminishing.
01:17:04.000There's six and a half going on seven million people, and you're going to have fights over fewer and fewer resources.
01:17:10.000There is a lot of oil and stuff but it's still a big job to find it and get it out and you're absolutely right there's pressure everywhere.
01:17:16.000Max I'm gonna come back and play the new trailer because I know you've got to go but before we end you were telling me you've got a new project first time I heard of this at your PirateMyFilm.com website?
01:17:31.000Well, Pilot My Film, my website, is anybody can list a movie and try to raise money for their movie.
01:18:08.000It's about the mainstream media in America suddenly adopting Alex Jones as their mainstream media outlet.
01:18:15.000And what would happen if suddenly mainstream media started to take on what you've been saying now for 14 years and adopting it as the main message?
01:18:27.000What gave me the big idea was the Hardin, Montana story, because to me that is the first major story to leap from Alex Jones to mainstream, and not the first, but I'm saying it's a huge story that went from Alex Jones and InfoWars to mainstream media in a huge way.
01:18:49.000So this is a little project I'm putting together and it's about how mainstream media goes Alex Jones.
01:18:54.000Well, I'm honored, and I think that'll make a good film, but I think the Where's Kenny Boyle will be even more interesting, because no doubt they staged that death.
01:19:19.000We should have... For those that don't know, tell folks who you are as we go to break here.
01:19:25.000I'm Stacey Herbert, partner with Max Geyser.
01:19:28.000And you guys work on the TV shows and radio shows together, and I always enjoy hearing you when you do all the great work you're doing, Stacey.
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01:26:12.000There's the original, one yesterday, and now this new one today, another one next week, and then one more final one right before it comes out.
01:26:18.000It's such a big film, so many subjects.
01:27:17.000It's up to every man, woman, and child in the United States to decide whether we're going to be fooled by the slick propaganda of the social engineers, or whether we're going to restore the republic.
01:27:29.000We have seen this erosion to the point where today it seems like nobody does care.
01:27:34.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.
01:27:38.000Who's going to soak up the derivatives?
01:27:48.000Enron's CEO, Ken Lay, was involved in discussions with you at the White House about helping develop this type of policy, this trading scheme.
01:28:50.000Now, that is yesterday's big trailer going viral everywhere right now.
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01:29:17.000I mean, the documentary shows who the bankers are, what their master plan is, how they did the derivatives, what their next plan is with the carbon tax takeover, and the whole fraud of man-made global warming.
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01:33:23.000And I've interviewed him many times over the years on the radio, but getting to see him on High Def TV, editing him for the film, he's a neat guy.
01:33:29.000And he's going to be in Fall of the Republic 1 and 2.
01:33:32.000In fact, even more in 2, though he's one of the central figures in Fall of the Republic 1.
01:33:39.000Along with Webster Tarpley and Jesse Ventura and John Perkins and Max Kaiser and G. Edward Griffin and Just so many other people.
01:35:36.000The idea of making him into a celebrity.
01:35:39.000Eventually, he said, they will expect The scientific dictatorship understands what makes human beings tick, and they're using it against us.
01:35:53.000These cells are scanned by a stream of electrons, completing 30 pictures a second.
01:35:58.000It's hard for people like that to take a serious interest in what their elected officials are doing.
01:38:05.000I want to go over all of this with you today.
01:38:07.000But before we get into that, what is most important right now in the mind of Alan Watt in your deep reflection and analysis as you cut through the matrix?
01:38:17.000What's key that's developing right now that Alan Watt thinks we should all know about?
01:38:22.000I think we should know what the New World Order really is.
01:38:28.000It's a non-democratic system, a world to be ruled by experts and professionals.
01:38:35.000From all different sciences, including all the social sciences, they go under the term of world peace.
01:38:42.000And that sounds nice and fuzzy to most people, but when you break down in their own writings, from their own writings, what they mean by world peace, it literally is a form of totalitarianism from birth to grave.
01:38:57.000Uh, to do with, in fact, they wanted to separate the children completely from parents so they wouldn't be contaminated with old-fashioned values and ideas.
01:39:07.000But they're found with scientific indoctrination.
01:39:09.000Kindergarten onwards, any parental input is made null and void.
01:39:14.000And so they've pretty well reached that stage.
01:39:16.000They can literally program the generations with every intake, every year of kindergarten.
01:39:23.000upgrade incrementally for what they will experience in their lifetime, and they'll accept that which they experience because they've been taught it as coming.
01:39:31.000So what you're looking at, really, is the totalitarian world system, a depopulation plan is at the top of it, too.
01:39:39.000The unfit, as they call them, in a post-industrial era.
01:39:43.000Remember, too, all the scientists across the world now and all the professions believe in evolution is taught right off the bat.
01:39:49.000They believe in Darwinian evolution, survival of the fittest, They believe that we are the old man.
01:39:55.000All the old types used to work in factories.
01:39:58.000The blue collar workers are now obsolete with the emergence of science and robots and genetic technology.
01:40:04.000They can create new types of better servants and not as many as they have now.
01:40:09.000All of this is coming down the pipe as we see.
01:40:12.000Even the move, as you say, to stop neighbours from looking after your child for a couple of hours when they run off for some groceries is forbidden across the board in all the countries at the same time, as you say.
01:40:23.000And that is also to stop contamination and bonding to other people in your little locality with old-fashioned ideas.
01:40:32.000It's okay to put them into a recommended state-approved daycare place for a day because to get their correct And simultaneously Europe and the US and England and Canada announced they want year-round school, and the internal documents 20 years ago said to break up the families entirely.
01:40:49.000They've got the men and women working overtime so they can't spend time with their kids, and then if you want to use the neighbor, in fact it even said in England, BBC, two groups of police officers aren't allowed to watch their own kids.
01:41:01.000And the thing was, wow, even the godlike police aren't allowed to watch their kids.
01:41:08.000And now 20,000 homes in England, they have cameras watching the kids as they go to bed on time, eat what they're supposed to.
01:41:55.000But in reality, they've really rolled ahead with the globalism.
01:41:59.000And every law, really, that comes down to every nation comes from one of the departments of the United Nations.
01:42:05.000It's signed into treaty automatically in all the countries.
01:42:07.000And we're going to speak more about that.
01:42:09.000But since you mentioned the military, notice how in March of last year, in the U.S., in England, and in Canada, but also in Ireland and Scotland, simultaneously, because I'm, just like you do, scanning all the Western media, also Asian media that's in English, scanning all the Western media, also Asian media that's in English, simultaneously on the same
01:42:32.000They deployed troops in downtown cities and said, oh, they're just helping with drunk drivers, helping with checkpoints, and now it's, and then they go, oh yes, it's for terrorists and for gun owners.
01:42:44.000So right as they implode the economy, they deploy the troops worldwide and then admit it's global.
01:42:49.000I mean, it's all a private corporate Borg deploying this, now coming after our farms and ranches, our children, any form of independence.
01:42:59.000Yes, they laid out a plan a long time ago when they set up the League of Nations, the forerunner of the United Nations, and in their own charter they said eventually they'd ban all private property.
01:43:10.000They'd also have to eradicate farming because farming was too important to be left to farmers.
01:43:16.000Big corporations would run the farming of the world.
01:43:20.000We're simply going through a pre-planned agenda.
01:43:23.000But now, with the century of change, and that's the key to it, this is the century of change that all academia was talking about for 50 odd years.
01:43:35.000We see now the rise of this entity, this legal entity of the EU, the Economic Union, as a sovereign new Soviet, a bigger Soviet system than the old Soviet system, non-democratic, that admits in its own publications and in the major media that that admits in its own publications and in the major media that all the decisions are made by an executive branch at the top with secret committees, and the politicians have no input into All they can do is complain, and that's it.
01:44:05.000This is not a post-democratic world we're in.
01:44:09.000And when you read the writings of big players in the last 50 to 100 years involved in these international movements, like the Huxleys, like both the Huxleys, in fact, Julian and Aldo Huxley and Russell and others, they say straight out that this world will be run by a they say straight out that this world will be run by a form of scientific dictatorship where the public will simply That's the whole key to everything now is obey.
01:44:35.000We can retrain you like any animal, the Pavlovian concept.
01:44:39.000And your job is to serve the world state.
01:44:42.000Now, Alan, I want to bring up a key point here, and I want you to speak to this, studying their operations.
01:44:48.000At the heart of it, they are social Darwinists.
01:44:53.000They're saying if we kill a billion people, since we are in the position of power, that means genetically we got the power because we were the best, and so we're helping the earth by killing you.
01:45:05.000They're testing soft kill weapons, sterilization, as the White House Science Czar spoke about.
01:45:10.000I want to go over this with you today.
01:45:13.000But more than that, they get the general public to adopt the eugenics ideas, but they don't even consciously know why.
01:45:24.000We don't have art and literature and spacecraft.
01:45:27.000We can't do incredible things, which we actually are an incredible species, a wonderful species, a self-aware species.
01:45:37.000The elites believe they're gods, they believe they're wonderful, and they want to control the future, and so they only sell the public on lowering their survival instinct so they will accept and make it a religious sacrament, dying for their carbon footprint, or not having children, or being sacrificed to the earth.
01:45:59.000So this idea that man is crud, man is crap, they sell this and sell this and say you have no rights, you're just an animal, it's a mind game, it's a huckster scam to say you can make no decisions, you're just programmed.
01:46:12.000But then, oh, the elites have to have their rights, they have to have their bodyguards, oh, they're free, they write all this sick, dark, nihilistic poetry about how they control everything and they'll destroy everything if they want to.
01:46:26.000So inherently, these are very sick, evil control freaks.
01:47:06.000I just went through stuff that was released from the World Health Organization, from some of its meetings, but they've never disclosed to the public before.
01:47:14.000And they admit during their own discussions, their internal debates, that most of these vaccines, all of the vaccines, in fact, the vast bulk of the contaminants in them, including genetic contaminants and viruses, are unknown to them.
01:47:29.000sometimes 90% of every inoculation and polio still is unknown to them.
01:47:35.000They don't know the effects on the body, except with the new adjuvants they're using for this upcoming swine flu shot, they do know that they're using, rather than chicken eggs, they're using cancer viruses.
01:47:47.000They admit that in their own writings.
01:47:48.000They're using cancer viruses for the simple reason that, that cancer viruses are almost indestructible, so it will stay in your body forever, supposedly to protect your body.
01:47:59.000But at the same time, it might just give you cancer.
01:48:03.000In other words, they know what they're doing.
01:48:05.000They're taking the population down, not just at a drastic step all at once, but depending on your shot and your physiology, it will all start dying off much, much faster over the next few years.
01:48:18.000This is mind-blowing, and we're on the same page.
01:48:21.000This is admitted in hundreds of government textbooks, like EcoScience, but the White House Science Czar.
01:48:26.000We now have bought over 10 books he authored, all saying the same sickening stuff about how they would do this, inject us with cancer viruses that would trigger, as soon as our hormone levels lowered in men and women between 45 and 65.
01:48:41.000The boldness, what do you call the boldness of where they openly say they're killing us, where they openly admit the first 10 million people in Canada and the U.S.
01:48:50.000to get the nasal live flu virus, they admit it's going to mutate it and spread it.
01:48:56.000So in plain view, they admit it has cancer viruses in the major German and British news.
01:49:02.000We're shooting cancer viruses live into our nostrils.
01:49:06.000They admit the Gardasil's killing the girls and mutating.
01:49:09.000Its own inventor came out and said don't take it.
01:49:11.000I'm sure they'll kill her or something.
01:49:13.000The point is, is that What do you call that?
01:49:16.000Because I see them testing the ambient murder.
01:49:19.000They're now just killing us right out in the open and just setting the precedent to do it and then everyone's dropping dead or dying and it's like no big deal.
01:49:29.000In fact, even admits from the World Health Organization that they're doing a massive campaign To train the public, train the public to accept it.
01:49:38.000Masses of people die all the time from strokes and heart attacks and cancers, so don't relate it to the vaccine that you're getting.
01:49:46.000This is the present propaganda blitz that's out right now.
01:49:49.000So they're training the victim to accept his own death and put it down to coincidence.
01:49:54.000It's amazing that they understand what they can do to the public because they've lied so many times in the past.
01:50:01.000They know the formulas, the techniques, and they know how we respond.
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01:54:30.000All right, I want to open the phones up next hour for Alan Watts, specifically on eugenics, the master plan, how to stop them, what they're doing.
01:55:05.000Alan, we were just talking during the break about social control.
01:55:09.000It's just like the Aztecs, one of the dominant Mesoamerican Mayan cultures.
01:55:15.000And in their own writings, and in what the Spanish observed, Mothers would beg to have their healthiest, best, because you wanted to have the best sacrifice, 10-year-old only son cut up in pieces and then sold as meat by the priest class.
01:55:30.000That's how they made their money, to the locals.
01:55:32.000And the mothers would gobble their children with pleasure.
01:55:46.000People get upset if they see a dog killed by Marines, but not if they see a kid killed by Marines.
01:55:50.000We've been trained to see human life as bad.
01:55:53.000And through mind control, just through cultural mind control, Aztecs would kill their sons and daughters and wives and husbands with pleasure.
01:56:37.000But there was a Julian Huxley up there, an Aldo Huxley, and these guys went into this whole thing.
01:56:44.000And Aldo Huxley himself, who attended all the world meetings, he also worked at Tavistock Institute.
01:56:50.000He thought that the scientific dictatorship would be just sort of wonderful when it came in, and the people would be trained to love their servitude.
01:56:58.000But he also talked about the only obstacle they had at that time, back in the 50s, was the remnants of a powerful, or almost post-powerful, Christianity.
01:57:11.000That ties in with what his brother Julian said, the first CEO of UNESCO.
01:57:16.000He said we'll have to train the people to devaluate human life in order to bring through mass abortions and eventually genetic selection and sterilization.
01:57:45.000Their plans are like long-term business plans set in stone, with 10-year plans for one part, 50 for another, 100 for another.
01:57:53.000We see this same type of plan cropping up in the declassified information put out by the top think tanks for the military going up to the year 2050 and beyond.
01:58:04.000And the kind of world that will be then, and society will have then, And we have, of course, the Rockefellers trotting around the world, still pushing the depopulation plan, eugenics plan, the fittest should survive, the rest should get sterilized, and the unwanted should simply be killed off by various means.
01:58:23.000This is happening as we live, and the public don't even know it's happening because they're trained to ignore and not participate in their own destiny.
01:58:33.000Got a break, coming back 50 minutes left in the next hour with Alan Watt.
02:00:54.000Well, going into the writings again of some of the biggest players who did publish lots of their work.
02:01:00.000We find their techniques, because they explain their techniques, and they were so assured of them working that can only be done because of previous experimentation on populations.
02:01:12.000And we're going back to the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s.
02:01:15.000The Huxleys, for instance, talked about people loving their servitude, and they often used the term domestication.
02:01:25.000What they meant was, and they even said this, that the only true survivors that are fit to survive are wild animals that retain all of the survival capabilities.
02:01:34.000In order to rule all the lesser types, the inferior humans who haven't made it to the top, they'd have to domesticate them.
02:01:40.000That meant to eradicate their instincts for self-preservation.
02:01:44.000Train them that experts were looking after everything that they should look after by themselves.
02:01:50.000And even to the extent where they couldn't do anything without expert advice.
02:01:54.000Well, we've had a massive campaign since about the 50s onwards.
02:01:58.000Listen to the experts all through magazines, TVs, even in news breaks or even weather breaks.
02:02:04.000You get experts coming on telling you how to dress for the rain.
02:02:17.000Accept there are better types of people above you taking care of all the big problems that you should be taking care of.
02:02:24.000And your job is to simply play as much as you can play and enjoy yourself and don't become involved in the big problems in life to do with politics, policies or anything else.
02:03:40.000They're saying you're all just gonna die of cancer and you're all just gonna die of diabetes and doesn't matter what you do just take your shot you're gonna die and there's gonna be lots of deaths and yeah it's a live virus and yeah you're gonna die but it wasn't the vaccine but it does say on the insert it may kill you.
02:03:54.000And this Gardasil is going to kill you, but it doesn't protect you from the cancer, but it will give you cancer, but everything's fine.
02:04:02.000And they just throw it all out there, and it's like the public really is in a trance.
02:04:08.000Now, more and more of them are starting to wake up, so the establishment's program is to shock us even more and pile on, hoping people just give up.
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02:08:32.000We're going back to our live, extremely intriguing and informative and enlightening interview with Alan Wadham, cutting to thematrix.com here in a moment.
02:08:40.000And we're going to open the phones up.
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02:11:43.000All right, Alan, I'm going to shut up for the rest of this segment before we go to calls.
02:11:46.000Getting into what their current operation is, what you think is happening with the flu, those new World Health Organization documents you have, they're up on CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
02:11:58.000And some news about how we beat these people.
02:12:03.000So that collision between people that want freedom and decent humanity and for honorableness to be held up and those that want death and destruction.
02:12:16.000Well, I think the people first have to understand that they're not dealing with democratic institutions.
02:12:21.000You're dealing with people with an agenda who are all pre-chosen before they get into politics.
02:12:28.000They're all on board with this agenda, so technically there's no negotiation with them, to be honest with you.
02:12:36.000The only thing that's left outside of outright revolution is for large groups of people to literally hit them economically.
02:12:47.000For instance, for example, the nurses of New York State have been told that they're going to be fired if they don't take this swine flu shot.
02:12:57.000My suggestion to them is for them to walk off en masse, and just walk out the hospital en masse for a day or two, and you'll see the howls and the screams as those guys want to bring you to the negotiating table, that these are the only kinds of strategies left for people outside revolution.
02:13:14.000And the boys at the top know this because they've been setting up internal armies and securities for 20 years for this particular time that we're going through now.
02:13:37.000The World Health Organization at their meeting in 2006, their world meeting, stated that if they can get the public to accept mandatory inoculation for one thing, Then introduce more mandatory inoculations every year for the rest of the adult's life, including annual boosters for every shot they've ever had.
02:13:56.000We're going to be toxic laboratories, walking out laboratories, walking test tubes with a competent DNA all getting together and killing us all the quicker through cancers.
02:15:11.000We're seeing the real tyranny and they're bragging.
02:15:14.000That they're setting the precedent to force over 56 vaccine boosters, so that's now in the hundreds, every couple years of meningitis shots, hepatitis shots, the AIDS vaccine.
02:15:27.000And Bill Gates has now bragged, and it's in the Associated Press, When he laughs, when he gives a speech.
02:15:34.000Oh, I found out we're giving people polio with the new vaccine.
02:16:02.000They admit it because And now they admit, in the mainstream literature, that the live nasal vaccine is going to create hundreds of mutations, and is what's spreading H1N1.
02:16:13.000So out in the open, they hit us with all the fools that are shooting up their kids' nose, sneezing on everybody, and the public is so dumbed down they can't even understand it.
02:16:24.000Again, they've been trained that experts don't lie, and we've had 50 years of training into this new type of system.
02:17:05.000And we have to admit they're testing the soft kill now.
02:17:08.000And I want to talk some about solutions here.
02:17:10.000But everything you bring up just just just literally flags come up because it's all so accurate.
02:17:18.000You know, dealing with all of this and watching them kill us, and then all these little petty power people who don't even care if they're being killed themselves, as long as they can kill people under them.
02:17:36.000All the universities have their specialized areas in creating vaccines or vaccines or viruses for warfare purposes.
02:17:42.000But they're also into the social science and psychology.
02:17:45.000And Stanford is one of the prime universities for mass control, basically.
02:17:51.000They did the old Milgaard experiments on testing people's obedience to authority by shocking people.
02:17:59.000He's training people that are actually shocking a victim on the other side of the glass.
02:18:03.000There was actors on the other side of the glass, but they didn't know, and they got to kill voltage on the dial there, as long as someone above them took authority and responsibility for it.
02:18:13.000They know how to use the public against the public.
02:18:16.000Yeah, and 90%, you can take a farm boy and make him a cop, six months later, 90% in the Stanford research will put a gun to their mother's head and blow her brains across the room, if someone in a uniform orders them to do it.
02:18:32.000All techniques have been understood by the high sciences and occult guys and masonry and so on at the top.
02:18:41.000You find in the riots of New York in the 1800s that The mayor, at the time of the whole riots, he said that we can always hire half the poor to kill the other half.
02:19:10.000Let's come back and take calls, and then at the end of the last segment, let's get into a little bit of solutions, but we're going to have you back up for more of that as well.
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02:25:48.000Hi Alex, I spoke to you a couple of days ago and I was telling you about my son that I just enrolled in school and I wanted to find out what I could do as far as the vaccine and everything.
02:26:15.000Guys, Google Texas vaccine exemption form and we will be on the state health department and you just print it off and you mail it in and if the criminals at that school who get money for shooting your kid up, their federal funds are almost exclusively tied to that.
02:26:32.000It's so important the government wants that.
02:26:35.000That you then go in and you give it to them and then they're open for massive criminal charges if they try to kick your child out.
02:26:42.000But see, their criminal charges on your child are for truancy when they kick them out.
02:26:48.000That's what they talk about arresting you for shots.
02:29:02.000No, she said that it's not mandatory and there is no form that I can file... But then let me guess, Houston's trying to force you to take it though?
02:29:15.000But you said that, ma'am, it's a general vaccine waiver form, so that when they try, well, it's all over Dallas Morning News, they're trying to make Texas kids take it.
02:29:23.000So see, Alan, what do you call these ring-around-the-rosie mind games, this blob of con artist play, where they'll go, you don't need an exemption, it's not mandatory, but you have to take it?
02:29:33.000What do you call that mind control, Alan?
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02:33:35.000I was just talking to one of my producers on the radio guys, Rob Dew, about how they, and his wife's in education, how they tried for months to get the exemption form.
02:33:45.000They would laugh and say it doesn't exist.
02:33:47.000Up until a month ago, you could always just print it off online.
02:33:51.000Now I guess they make you get one from them.
02:34:50.000It's a sadomasochistic thing that attracts psychopathic types into those positions.
02:34:54.000In fact, you're generally the only ones who go into them.
02:34:57.000And they worship the person above them with power, and they despise the person beneath them, who has less power than themselves.
02:35:05.000That's how simply it works with sadomasochism.
02:35:08.000And you'll always have the strange sadomasochistic authoritarianism When you get into politics and right down to local politics even, any authority, this is the very thing that Carl Jung warned the public about back in the 50s.
02:35:23.000He talked about the Iron Curtain across Germany, but he also said, he says, I see an Iron Curtain of massive bureaucracies building up with governmental agencies.
02:35:33.000Spicling and strangling the freedom of the whole planet.
02:35:37.000He understood what was coming down the pike back then.
02:35:39.000Many of his generation did, in fact, because they were involved in meeting higher level people.
02:35:45.000And he knew that the world we're bringing in would be one of tyranny by force.
02:36:09.000Since they don't have a choice, they learn to love it and love the defendant.
02:36:14.000And so when you say, hey, the banks just stole $23.7 trillion, we've got to pay it back with interest, they just laugh and will say, I'm part of the power structure.
02:36:24.000And it's almost like a five-year-old dressing up like they're Luke Skywalker dressing up like they're some hero.
02:36:34.000It's like the public are eternal children and they imagine things.
02:36:43.000And I never had a view of myself as something special or wonderful or good.
02:36:48.000I'm just a person that has my instincts intact.
02:36:51.000And, you know, having a bunch of psychos writing books about how they're killing me with vaccines and stuff in the water, and then I can see the evidence they're doing it?
02:36:58.000I mean, if they write hundreds of books about how they're killing us and how it's a scientific dictatorship, wouldn't there be something wrong with me if I didn't, as a red-blooded male, not stand up for my species against a power-tripping group that's playing God?
02:37:17.000And part of the key of obedience, as I say, Stanford and other universities are into these experiments all the time around obedience or the CIA involved with them, obviously.
02:37:26.000And what they find is with the more power they accumulate in any agency, In this age of masochistic power structure, they begin to despise the ordinary people who begin to cow under authority.
02:37:41.000The more the people cow under authority, the more they're despised as almost weaklings and eventually hated by those in power.
02:37:48.000I've always said it's like a farmer breaking the legs of a cow.
02:37:53.000It falls to the ground, then he starts kicking it because it can't get up.
02:37:57.000That is the very system that's in play today with the sadomasochistic total power structure that's set up.
02:38:03.000This is the hell on earth they're being in, and it's up to us to fight it utterly with every means that we have.
02:38:09.000Well, I think that one of the most effective ways to attack it is to just show people the matrix of false reality and reach out to police, military, bureaucrats, and go, you know, your little cousin just died of cancer at 22.
02:40:25.000It is euthanasia, and it's bacterial warfare, it's viral warfare, it's bio-warfare, carefully designed, and all this stuff has been released recently from the internal meetings at the World Health Organization.
02:40:39.000They admit that all of these particles of DNA and RNA and so on recombine within the body, infect the cells of the person and cause cancers down the road.
02:40:51.000Well, they grow it in the exact type of monkeys and fetal tissue that have the cancer virus that's most deadly in it.
02:41:00.000Well, actually, they've said now, they've stated now that they're actually using, especially for this new swine flu, rather than use the eggs, chicken eggs and so on for doing so, which also contains thousands of foreign.
02:41:10.000They're using cancer virus instead of the dead baby retinas, or the green monkey kidneys, or the other growth mediums.
02:41:20.000You're right, they're using cancer virus.
02:41:23.000That's what they say, because the cancer virus is a survivor, so they're using that as an Is it that sweet?
02:41:30.000I'm going to move the calls quickly now.
02:41:39.000Thank you for your great wisdom, even.
02:41:43.000Alex, on Monday's show, you had mentioned that there were 10 million doses of the flu mask being sent out into the country on Monday.
02:41:51.000They will have arrived or probably have arrived at the destination by now.
02:41:53.000I'm sure many of Destinations that it's arriving to are the Walmart stores.
02:41:58.000Let me be clear, they said last Friday that 200,000 were going to Tennessee, Indiana, and Texas, and that then by the end of the next week, 10 million more would start flowing, and then they admit there's been no testing of the H1N1, and that they're making people sign secrecy forms and waiving their rights when they take the nasal.
02:42:23.000You also reported, Alex, the Mayo Clinic has come out and said that the flu mist will be much more contagious to other people.
02:42:31.000It takes 10 to 20 days, as I understand it at this point, for the actual symptoms to manifest in someone who has received an injected or a flu mist vaccination.
02:42:40.000Now, I think the time clock has already started on this and that the actual mass murder Well I know this.
02:42:49.000that this operation consists of, and it is not a drill, absolutely not a drill.
02:42:54.000It's set in motion now as to where it's going to follow through with the actual sickness itself, and people are going to become so sick and weak that they're going to accept martial law, and I think this is the first stage of the operation.
02:43:07.000We're going to find out by the end of October, early November, whether it's meant to mutate and really be deadly, or if this is just setting the precedent for us to go under World Health Organization rules and to set the precedent to take the shots as they've stated.
02:43:44.000And what's interesting to me is putting this kind of thing into a mist form This supposed virus would kill primarily by attacking the respiratory system, the nasal passages and bronchial tubes in the lungs.
02:43:58.000So they're bringing it right into the very areas.
02:44:00.000And they admit that the adjuvants are designed to attract leukocytes and phagocytes to attack the stuff right into the lung area, which might cause you to die with this virus.
02:44:12.000For those that don't know, that's the autoimmune storm of how the 1918 killed tens of millions.
02:44:20.000It's the autoimmune response to the virus that kills you in hours with fluid.
02:44:26.000And now we're getting reports, they're covering it up, that people are taking it and collapsing.
02:44:31.000And so, Alan, I want to be very clear about what you just said.
02:44:34.000They admit in the literature That it can cause the autoimmune response, and you're right.
02:44:39.000You're injecting live virus into the nasal passages, into the lungs, which can then cause the autoimmune response, and Reuters is out ahead of it saying there's going to be lots of deaths after you take the shot, but it's not the shot.
02:44:59.000And again, it's twofold, as you say, that it is to train us to take the annual shots and boosters for the rest of our lives.
02:45:05.000That's what they said at the World Health Organization 2006 meeting.
02:45:11.000Alright, I hope you're wrong, Mark, but we at least know they're setting the precedent for the big soft kill that's coming, but we're going to find out the next few months here, buddy.
02:46:41.000I've just been... This is in regards to, I guess, more of the eugenic kind of stuff that you guys are talking about.
02:46:48.000I studied Soviet Union history and politics when I was in university and we covered the Aral Sea.
02:46:58.000a lot of the genetic mutations and aberrations that resulted from the pesticides and other stuff that was running off through the irrigation ditches of the farmers.
02:47:10.000I'm just curious to know if a lot of the similar stuff is being put into this kind of GMO foods and fast food and other stuff.
02:47:23.000Let me briefly say that they've done studies where over 90 percent, I want to say 97 but you can pull it up, of people in India of the sewage systems have the SV40 live cancer virus.
02:47:35.000They don't just inject this in people.
02:47:37.000It then spreads and mutates in us as incubators as Alan was saying.
02:47:41.000Now, I've interviewed genetic engineer after genetic engineer, guys making millions a year.
02:47:46.000Guys who were running whole facilities and they would find that they would be told by other engineers, they were just running plants, to make the potato this way, the tomato that way.
02:47:56.000Insert this gene, and they noticed, we've had them on the show over and over again, that it was a combination change that would change other things and produce a pharmacological crop, that's what it's called, pharmacological crops, that would also sterilize all the guinea pigs and rats they tested it on.
02:48:13.000And so yes, and that's what they've said, they're going to have food crops, they already have them, with vaccines in them, with live viruses in them, and that the very GMO, it's already going on.
02:48:26.000It's up on websites inside the United Nations that they're into crops.
02:48:30.000For the last 15 years, for third world countries especially, all kinds of stuff, including corn, that would actually help sterilize the people and bring down the population rate.
02:48:41.000You find Rockefeller himself is in charge of the rice campaign, I think the Golden Rice campaign, that's getting modified rice too, for all these countries.
02:48:50.000It's now being imported back into the US and other countries too.
02:48:53.000This stuff also was designed to lower the sperm in the males, etc.
02:49:24.000A friend of mine's wife works for a big HMO, you know.
02:49:30.000Three years ago, they had a meeting, and they discussed the flu.
02:49:34.000Her husband got so paranoid, he went out and bought dried food.
02:49:38.000So how can they know that far in advance unless it's planned?
02:49:45.000Sir, in January, we had emergency managers on and in documents from major states where they were saying in November, December, millions were going to die.
02:49:55.000I'm not saying that's going to happen.
02:49:56.000The feds were telling police departments the citizens will attack you in the winter.
02:50:01.000So they're clearly getting ready for something.
02:50:13.000Uh, the ones who talked, even John Holdren, when he wrote that book, Ecoscience, along with the other big eugenicists and ecologists, which we call the population experts, they admitted then they'd have to find ways of putting things in the water and the food.
02:50:29.000And you can go further back again into the Huxleys talking about the same thing, and Russell's putting stuff in the food.
02:50:34.000But Lord Betran Russell in charge of one of the biggest departments inside the Royal Institute of International Affairs said they would also use the needle to be the people compliant and to bring down the population.
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02:54:16.000Central, we're here just trying to warn people, and like Alan Watts said, The biggest issue is to realize they're not talking about killing us in all these publications.
02:54:58.000You know, when I was a kid, my old man, he would not let us get a shot because everybody in his neighborhood, when he grew up, took the polio vaccine and they were damaged by it and he was terrified of it.
02:55:11.000And I've never had the flu and I've never taken a shot.
02:55:15.000So, I don't really think they do anything at all.
02:55:27.000Alan, briefly tell him what it does to him.
02:55:30.000Well, as we know from their own writings, they admit at the top there's thousands of viruses they haven't even identified yet in every shot.
02:55:39.000Every shot for everything that they've ever given you.
02:55:41.000And this is the recent explanation they've given out at the top.
02:55:47.000But they do know that the ones they have given you definitely not only can, but do cause cancers.
02:57:38.000And it turns out that the U.S. basically emptied out Fort Knox and put all their gold over to the Soviets, and a lot of the ships got sunk by the German submarines.
02:57:47.000And these guys actually found some of the ships that were stacked with gold bricks.
02:57:52.000That was kept from the public right up until the present time.
02:57:55.000We're never in the true picture of reality at the bottom.