Ron Paul joins us from Capitol Hill to discuss his latest efforts to force an audit of the Federal Reserve. We also discuss the death of the dollar, the flu, Afghanistan, and much, much more! Alex Jones is a radio host on the Alex Jones Show on the Genesis Communications Radio Network.
00:00:20.000We're also simulcasting the radio show live right now on Living Color at PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:00:25.000It is Thursday, the fifth day of November 2009, and for the next 20 minutes or so, Congressman Ron Paul joins us from Capitol Hill, and there is a lot to talk about.
00:00:39.000First off, out of the gates, you obviously got 290 plus sponsors to begin the audit of the private secret of Federal Reserve.
00:00:47.000You've talked this week about some maneuvers by some of the committee chairmen to gut the bill.
00:00:53.000Can you give us an update on where your legislation is going, Congressman?
00:00:58.000Well, actually right now we have 309, and that's 130 some Democrats, as well as all the Republicans.
00:01:05.000And at one time, Mel Watt had indicated to me that he would get a provision put in the bill by Barney Frank, which would be a very, very limited version of an audit, which would be a distraction, if nothing else.
00:01:18.000Even though the little bit we was doing, it was okay, it was just so small, it was cancelling out most of what I wanted to do.
00:01:26.000But his provision didn't get put into the bill.
00:01:28.000We are now in the middle of doing the bill.
00:01:31.000I thought there was even a chance today that I would get to offer my amendment, which is 1207, to the bill.
00:01:36.000But it was just announced a few minutes ago that Barney Frank said that, well, the controversial type of amendments won't be done until after the Labor Day or the Veterans Day break, which is next week.
00:01:49.000So it won't be this week, and it won't be next week, but the following week.
00:01:52.000I suspect they're just lining up their ducks, and there'll probably be lots of attempts to water things down.
00:04:01.000Congressman, that is a phone system situation happening, obviously, on their end. - So we will try to get Congressman Ron Paul back on right now.
00:04:21.000In the meantime, we do have Joe Rogan joining us later in studio today and Lawrence J. Kotlikoff.
00:04:31.000He, of course, is a Boston University professor of economics.
00:04:38.000To discuss the McClatchy newspaper article that he was quoted in.
00:05:03.000Okay, you were finishing up with the Fed.
00:05:04.000On monetary policy, Congressman, you've long talked about the central banks using the dollar to prop up the empire.
00:05:12.000Now the G20 is discussing abandoning the dollar.
00:05:17.000What is happening from your research perspective with the dollar right now, and what will happen if the dollar is fully abandoned?
00:05:24.000I don't think anybody knows right now.
00:05:26.000If they just let it go and the dollar's rejected, then people will have to resort to sound money and they'd have to resort to commodity money.
00:05:35.000But, as you say, the G20 or the IMF and the world leaders, so to speak, are going to try to replace it.
00:05:43.000I think the market has replaced the dollar reserve standard.
00:05:48.000I don't think they can rebuild on that.
00:05:50.000So they are rushing around trying to figure out what they'll replace it with.
00:05:55.000I think what they'll try to do is come up with a basket of currencies.
00:05:59.000They even might be tempted to put a little bit of gold in there, but it's not going to suffice if they don't have even a little bit of gold.
00:06:06.000Even if they come up with another worldwide fiat standard, I don't think it's going to convey trust.
00:06:12.000I think they're behind, they're between the rock and the hard place, and it's not going to be easy for them to push something on us.
00:06:18.000But one thing for sure, I think there's going to be a lot of chaos and I think there's going to be a lot more economic problems and more poverty and more, you know, depression in the world just because of this.
00:06:33.000So just to be clear, you agree with the big economic headlines we've seen the last month that the dollar as the world reserve currency has been abandoned.
00:06:42.000China, India, the European Union, the Arabs are now buying more foreign currencies than they are the dollar.
00:06:49.000They still hold an overall majority of dollars at around 62 to 63 percent.
00:06:55.000But they are now abandoning the dollar as reserve currency.
00:07:03.000I wouldn't say it's abandoned, but it's less important all the time.
00:07:08.000I mean, the fact that they can still have 60% reserves means it's still there.
00:07:13.000But the market, I look at the market signals, and I think the thing that happened this week was very, very significant.
00:07:19.000That is when the IMF announces that they're going to dump 200 tons of gold on the market.
00:07:24.000Well, you know, earlier a person was thinking, they were hoping, well, a lot of that gold out there, that's going to drive down the price of gold and make all the fiat currencies look better.
00:07:34.000A bank from Asia, India, buys the whole lot, which sent a signal, I think, to the world markets that, in essence, Gold has been remonetized.
00:07:45.000It never gets demonetized, but it has less importance as money when all the countries reject it.
00:07:52.000But I think this is a major, major signal that the dollar is getting closer on its last legs, and gold is getting more important.
00:08:00.000And as the Chinese buy less and less, they have already started buying gold.
00:08:04.000And they don't want to buy too much too fast and shoot the price up too quickly.
00:08:18.000They can disrupt and play these games for a long, long time.
00:08:22.000But in many ways, this is very, very good because it tells us that the governments no longer can get away with just printing money to finance their schemes.
00:08:31.000It's their schemes that are so damaging to us, whether it's the welfare or the warfare.
00:08:36.000It all hurts the people because they have to pay the bills.
00:08:38.000So some of these things are good signals, although it means that we have to be concerned about the chaos that might erupt.
00:08:48.000Congressman, the private central banks, as you know, are financing the Copenhagen Treaty.
00:08:54.000I have the treaty here in front of me, all 200 pages of the Framework Convention on Climate Change.
00:09:01.000It states, as Ban Ki-moon wrote last week in the New York Times, that this is global governance.
00:09:08.000And that select groups of private interest are going to be able to decide who can have a factory, who can have a business.
00:09:17.000They can decide who's going to get the carbon credits.
00:09:20.000This scheme was designed by Ken Lay, as Congress has reported.
00:09:24.000The Senate committee has now approved the climate bill, as Reuters reports.
00:09:32.000If our economy under globalization and NAFTA and GATT is already sputtering, what's going to happen if we allow the very same central banks to create this new derivative system?
00:09:42.000Well, if it works, it'll work for a short while, and companies like Goldman Sachs and a few others will rip us off, and they'll, you know, get even more wealth.
00:10:12.000What's the inside baseball word in Congress?
00:10:16.000Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer say they're going to be able to pass it this year or next year, but more and more evidence on the ground shows that we're going to be able to beat the House and Senate version of the climate bill that is meant to tie into the Copenhagen UN takeover.
00:10:32.000I think there is a chance, and I think these elections might send a signal.
00:10:37.000I think the continual presence of the Tea Party movement and the people speaking out might wake them up finally, you know, and say, hey, maybe we are doing too much too fast, and they might back off.
00:10:51.000Right now, they're not absolutely positive they have the votes on this medical bill.
00:10:55.000We'll know shortly whether the House will see if they have the vote.
00:10:58.000They think the House can do it faster than the Senate.
00:11:00.000They're going to try to do that on Saturday of this week.
00:11:22.000Three days ago, finally, the national security blocked.
00:11:29.000Copyright treaty has now leaked and it says open taxing, open regulation of the web, ICANN being handed over to the UN, total control, guilty until proven innocent, copyright rules, shutting down websites, ISPs, and really UN control over the internet.
00:11:47.000Where do you stand on that, Congressman?
00:11:50.000Well, it's very frightening, and I think that if they're successful, let's just hope that Internet is too big and too complex for them ever to have controls, but they're making the attempt.
00:12:00.000They would love to put us out of business, but I am hopeful that we don't ever allow it to go that far.
00:12:08.000But they are doing everything in the world to control the Internet, and that to me would A lot of people say it could never happen, it's too big, they never try it.
00:12:20.000They are stating, on record, the White House, the NSA, repeatedly in the last month, the White House has said we may have to shut the internet off to save it, and during the flu pandemic or other emergency, only let you go to government sites.
00:12:33.000That's quite a trial balloon by the White House.
00:12:37.000Yeah, and all those authorities are packed in, you know, emergency legislation.
00:12:41.000They don't really have to come to the Congress to do that.
00:12:44.000They do that on occasion just to get a rubber stamp, but there's been so much emergency legislation passed.
00:12:50.000And besides, if it isn't passed, you know what, how much license they take with executive orders and the various procedures that they use.
00:12:58.000So, I know if they claim this is for national security reasons, they just go ahead and do it.
00:13:06.000It's a very dangerous time in which we live.
00:13:09.000You're a medical doctor and you've also worked with the Von Mies Institute and received awards from them for your economic understanding.
00:13:18.000And of course this flu situation is economic for the vaccine makers.
00:13:23.000But you've pointed out that Obama won't give the flu shot to his daughters.
00:13:28.000Now even Time Magazine's reporting the German government military won't take the shot with the squalene or the mercury or the interleukin-2.
00:13:43.000Well, that always happens that way, and I did see a report after I made that announcement, because he had said it in public, about, uh, Obama's daughters not getting the shot.
00:13:53.000But, uh, since that time, we are told now they have gotten it.
00:13:56.000But you'd wonder whether, which one they got, and whether or not it had the mercury in it or whatnot.
00:14:02.000But, you know, we've done it to our own military personnel.
00:14:05.000You know, in the Persian Gulf War, they got a lot of inoculations and people came back with Persian Gulf War Syndrome.
00:14:11.000It was a combination of chemicals and inoculations.
00:14:15.000So it's, to me though, it's a mixed bag because a lot of people don't want it and they're fighting it and they're being forced to take it.
00:14:24.000And other people get panicked into it and they'll line up for hours and hours and hours waiting it.
00:14:29.000waiting for it as if this was a really, really serious crisis.
00:14:33.000It's a serious disease, and people do die, but even these few, The numbers of people that have died from it, they're significant, but they're very small compared to regular flu.
00:14:46.000And many times the individuals, I think over two-thirds of the children that died so far, had other serious medical problems.
00:14:53.000But the drumbeat for the fear to build up is, to me, it's all done for that reason, for the people to become more obedient and more dependent on the government.
00:15:05.000So they're trying to set the precedent for this medical tyranny to force their will on us?
00:15:12.000I'm sure there are a bunch of people who believe, well no, this is very serious, the medical people have told us this, and this is what we have to do.
00:15:19.000But let's say it was a reasonable thing, you know, to give people shots.
00:15:26.000I think the real message here is, why should the government be in charge of it?
00:15:31.000You know, if they're in charge, there's a shortage.
00:15:34.000The people who don't want it are being forced to take it.
00:15:40.000The other vaccine, regular flu shots, are not available.
00:15:43.000And it's on and on, and right now I saw a chart just a couple days ago that shows that this individual believed that swine flu is going to peak, you know, within another week or two.
00:15:57.000And if it peaks and starts to drop off naturally, that's about the time we're going to have all these flu shots coming in and not have the flu shot that maybe is much more important.
00:16:05.000The point being, why should they be in charge and why should we turn over our health care to these clowns who are trying to distribute, you know, a vaccine?
00:16:15.000So either way, it's just a point that we shouldn't be doing it.
00:16:19.000On top of that, all over the country, schools are injecting children, even when their parents say don't do it.
00:16:24.000And the schools are saying, oops, it's an accident.
00:16:29.000But shifting gears now, we saw Republican wins in New Jersey and Virginia.
00:16:36.000The president's Approval rating when he was first elected up in the 80s, now down in the low 40s.
00:16:43.000But Republicans still, by and large, have low approval ratings, unless they're like yourself, who's actually a constitutionalist.
00:16:49.000We know that in 2010, there's going to be a huge backlash.
00:16:53.000Republicans will take back a lot of seats.
00:16:55.000But if they don't deliver on smaller government and fiscal sound constitutional policies, Then we're going to have a real crisis on our hands, and if we wait to get politically active until 2011 into 2012, so much of this globalization would have already been expanded and submitted.
00:17:14.000I know that this is still off in the future, but LA Times, New York Times, everybody's talking.
00:17:22.000Saying, when is Ron Paul going to announce for 2012?
00:17:25.000Because if you announce early, you can build the coalition, you can get an even more elevated position in the media, you can speak for the people that don't want war, that don't want big government, that don't want banker bailouts.
00:17:39.000If you wait to announce until 2011, after your congressional win coming up, but I guess I'm being presumptive.
00:17:48.000I mean, you're not even saying you're going to announce in 2011.
00:17:52.000No, I'm still thinking a lot about that right now.
00:17:55.000It just doesn't seem like the best thing to do, even long-term or even on a short-term basis.
00:18:02.000So, I'm just undecided about the whole thing, you know, so I'm not about to say that I'm planning to do one thing or another.
00:18:11.000I think you make some good points, but I think time is still a little bit early to start talking about it.
00:18:20.000But so much is happening, and if you step up even further, and no one's saying that you haven't done more than anybody else, and start building the coalition now, I'd really, unless there's massive election fraud, I see no way that you could lose the Republican primary.
00:18:40.000I mean, how can we allow a rhino, someone who's not really a constitutionalist, like another McCain, another Mitt Romney, To lead conservatives and libertarians down another rat hole.
00:18:55.000And I don't pretend to understand your political strategy.
00:18:57.000I know you're much more intelligent and wise than I am and have more experience.
00:19:01.000It just makes perfect sense for at least sometime in the next six to eight months To announce, but you're saying you're not even sure at this time.
00:19:09.000I mean, even if you didn't win, you would have huge fundraising.
00:19:15.000You'll be the only candidate that will inject real issues.
00:19:18.000I mean, you're the only man for the job.
00:19:19.000I mean, fate and responsibility and destiny says that you are the man for the job.
00:19:26.000Alex, you have to realize you're not the average Republican primary voter.
00:19:32.000You're a little bit more optimistic about what we might be able to do.
00:19:37.000We still have a lot to contend with when you get involved in partisan politics.
00:19:41.000You followed that stuff that was going on over in Nevada, how they really handle us.
00:19:46.000I think we'll do better if we ever did it again, but, you know, they just closed down the shop if they think you're going to win, so you have a lot of obstacles to overcome.
00:19:56.000But the most important thing, and this is what you've emphasized as well, politics are very important, but also is getting these issues out and talking about the philosophy and why we need it and get the people energized, and that should be ongoing.
00:20:10.000Of course, that's why we keep Campaign for Liberty moving in that direction, because Exactly.
00:20:14.000We've gone from almost no one knowing it's a private cartel to over 75% wanting an audit or for it to be abolished.
00:20:19.000We even talked about the Federal Reserve, and now they can do national polling on the Federal Reserve to get opinion.
00:20:25.000So in that sense, I think we're making progress.
00:20:40.000And I don't see any way you won't run unless you've got medical problems and you're in great shape.
00:20:46.000You look like you're 60, Congressman, and I'm just begging you for millions of other people to kick off the campaign sooner rather than later.
00:20:55.000I want to commend you for helping to get your son to run for the Senate.
00:20:59.000People need to get behind him right now.
00:21:01.000And as you said, The biggest movement now on the universities isn't the burnout fake left or the burnout fake right.
00:21:08.000It is the libertarian, free market, non-collectivist movement that you have helped to grow and energize.
00:21:16.000And you are the omnibudsman of liberty, the leading light for freedom worldwide, as even the Czech president has said.
00:21:23.000And I just want to salute you and thank you.
00:21:27.000Are they going to be able to ram through the government takeover of health care?
00:21:30.000Oh, they're going to get it through the House, but whether the whole thing gets through, I think they'll get part of it, but not the whole thing.
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00:25:10.000You just got a chance to hear Congressman Ron Paul on with us, though the Capitol switchboard cut though the Capitol switchboard cut him off twice. - Yes.
00:25:32.000I've heard him on other radio shows when that happens.
00:25:35.000They must have somebody in that office.
00:25:39.000A trained guerrilla or something somewhere in the Capitol building that's running the switchboard.
00:25:45.000I could get more conspiratorial and say that they were knocking him off air with us, but that's probably not the case.
00:25:51.000Let's go ahead and take some phone calls right now.
00:26:23.000The founder of Smashing Pumpkins coming out against vaccines.
00:26:26.000You've got all these politicians coming out against vaccines.
00:26:29.000It shows how the media and the vaccine cult keeps telling us we're kooks, telling us we're liars, saying there's no mercury, saying it can't brain damage you, we're mentally ill.
00:26:51.000And that's why you have this attempted hype with a non-pandemic flu strain.
00:26:55.000A flu strain that's very weak compared to the regular seasonal flu.
00:26:58.000That's why you have this incredible hype.
00:27:00.000It's an attempt of them to say, you don't want shots?
00:27:02.000You want to break the precedent and the mind control that you've got to take the Gardasil shot and all these other vaccines and Hepatitis shot?
00:27:50.000We're going to go to your phone calls, but let's go ahead and play this Robert Kennedy clip right now.
00:27:54.000Now, here it is. - The generate, what happened was the vaccine schedule was increased.
00:28:06.000We went up from receiving about 10 vaccines in our generation to these kids received 24 vaccines.
00:28:14.000And they all had this thimerosal, this mercury, and nobody bothered to do an analysis of what the cumulative impact of all that mercury was doing to kids.
00:28:23.000As it turns out, we are injecting our children with 400 times the amount of mercury that FDA or EPA considers safe.
00:28:31.000A child, on his first day that he's born, is injected with a hepatitis B shot.
00:28:37.000Under EPA guidelines, he would have to be 275 pounds to safely absorb that shot.
00:28:43.000And yet, we're just constantly pumping our kids with these vaccines.
00:28:46.000Where's the federal government on this?
00:28:48.000What happened was that in 1988, One in every 2,500 American children had autism.
00:28:56.000Today, one in every 166 children have autism.
00:29:01.000And plus, one in six children have other kinds of learning disorders, other kinds of neurological disorders, speech delay, language disorders, ADD, hyperactivity, that all seem to be connected, that are all connected.
00:29:13.000The science shows are all connected to autism.
00:29:17.000You and I could debate a thousand different issues, whether it's Terry Schiavo or the environment.
00:29:22.000I think we'd agree on the environment.
00:29:25.000But in this case, you've got the federal government coming and saying, well, there's no really, there's no good science.
00:29:29.000And of course, in politics, science always gets diluted.
00:29:33.000Why hasn't the federal government stepped up?
00:29:36.000And it worked more, because listen, Bobby, I can't prove it tonight, you can't prove it, but intuitively, you look at the spike, you look at what happened with the Marisol, there is no doubt in my mind, maybe it's two years from now, maybe it's five years from now, maybe it's ten years from now, we're gonna find out that the Marisol Causes, in my opinion, ought to... You know what?
00:29:56.000The science is out there today, for anybody who bothers to read it, and I have read it.
00:30:01.000Actually, on my website this week, robertfkennedyjr.com, I'm publishing an article that goes through all of the science.
00:30:08.000But the science is clear, and what happens is, I read the science at first, and there's literally hundreds and hundreds of studies that connect thimerosal to, you know, to these disastrous neurological disorders.
00:30:20.000Then I went, I talked to the scientists, then I went and I talked to the federal bureaucrats who are defending thimerosal, and I said, what are you relying on?
00:30:30.000And I looked at the science they're relying on, and I can tell you, Joe, it is so weak, and you and I have seen, you know, legal practice with junk science, and we know, you know, what these phony scientists are who create this...
00:31:09.000Why are they sitting back, if our children are being poisoned, if the science is there, why are they sitting back and letting our children be poisoned?
00:31:18.000Because the same regulatory bureaucrats that green-lighted Flint-Marisol originally are now trying to cover their tracks.
00:31:29.000Right, and they're working with the pharmaceutical industry and we now have the transcripts of this secret meeting that they did in Simpsonwood, Georgia in the year 2000, and it's the most horrifying thing that you can read, Joe.
00:31:41.000There are scientists there from the government who are reading the reports and saying, this is undeniable, there's no... Absolutely.
00:32:41.000Since then, They've lied and said the mercury was taken out.
00:32:46.000Ladies and gentlemen, under federal regulations, vaccine makers are supposed to, they don't always do this, make a small amount of non-mercury vaccines.
00:33:01.000Yes, are there vaccines without mercury?
00:33:04.000Can the news hold up an insert of a vaccine that might be 1% of that type of vaccine that's out there?
00:33:10.000It's even less than that in the studies I've seen.
00:33:12.000Can you, if you're Andrea Merkel of Germany, or Gordon Brown of England, or Barack Obama and his daughters of USA, can you get one that doesn't have mercury?
00:33:38.000It's still all these foreign... Because it's not just the viruses they're breeding up on caterpillar eggs and baby retinas and dog kidneys or monkey kidneys.
00:33:50.000Even most of the vaccine you hear about that's grown on eggs, the original virus for the original sample, the seed stock, is grown in tissue.
00:34:01.000And then it's brought over and put in eggs.
00:34:06.000You know, I mean, if I grow squash plants in a greenhouse, and then take those plant seeds out of the greenhouse, and go plant them out in the field, or up against a fence row next year, it's the same squash.
00:34:40.000Literally, the vast majority, over 70% in U.S.
00:34:42.000polls, think it's bad and don't want it.
00:34:46.000But the media goes out and interviews 20, 30, 40, 50 people until they find the one person that will say they like it, and they put them on the news.
00:35:07.000Four years ago, the Associated Press told the truth and reported, and the article said, we don't know why, that all the major vaccine makers for hepatitis, for flu, for MMR, increased mercury.
00:35:23.000They didn't just put it back in, they increased it, not one fold, Not double, not triple, not quadruple.
00:35:33.000Five times what the mercury was before.
00:35:37.000So before, it was 400 times the safe level of mercury in an average one year round of shots for a five year old.
00:36:16.000The study was done with regular vaccines.
00:36:19.000I mean, ladies and gentlemen, they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie.
00:36:27.000But the good news here is, on the Federal Reserve, or on vaccines, or on the war, or on warrantless wiretapping, or the police state, in every poll, the majority, way over 70%, aren't against all this.
00:38:18.000But all the smart money is on it going up.
00:38:20.000And at least as the dollar plunges and G20 meets to do it fully, they can't kill gold because it's real.
00:38:26.000They may be able to drive it down for a while, doesn't look like that, but it will always beach ball back up, like pushing a beach ball to the bottom of the pool.
00:38:43.000Well, Alex, they've been playing those tricks, I mean, going all the way back to the middle 1980s.
00:38:49.000We went to our market peak in 1980, where gold hit $800 an ounce, silver hit $50 an ounce, and then it started backing off down into 1982.
00:39:00.000The central banks of the world, unitedly, had tried to suppress the market price of gold and keep it below $400 an ounce for the longest time.
00:39:11.000Anybody that wants to have information on that can find it.
00:39:24.000Now, the latest thing is, I mean, they do postings up there for just, you know, just recently as well.
00:39:29.000And honestly, I mean, that's what I mean when I say that when the gold prices drop down and I'm able to buy in those dips, usually most of the time that is occurring here in the New York market.
00:39:43.000And the reason why it's happening is because the Federal Reserve System has such a heavy interest in seeing the United States dollar stay strong and gold stay suppressed.
00:39:55.000See, it's the game of the fiat currency makers is to try to keep you out of anything that it stands in the way of their profit-making machine.
00:40:05.000And I have to say that it is one insidious profit-making machine because they have legal tender laws pointing at them that allows them to create the currency of the nation And they lend it to us and we have to service interest on that debt.
00:40:22.000Now you have to realize what that means.
00:40:24.000I mean, what has our country been doing here for the last at least 30 years is deficit spending.
00:40:31.000So where does deficit spending, who does it help and who does it hurt?
00:40:37.000Well, the United States people have to go into debt to get the currency, and you can see that the United States government has done nothing but deficit spending and put the taxpayers on the hook for even more and more and more of their hard-earned wages, and that money eventually filters right back up to this elite banking system.
00:41:00.000I mean, when Bill Clinton was in office, he would be telling you that this is going to happen in the economy and that and so on and so forth.
00:41:06.000It was one of the few surpluses that we ever ran.
00:41:10.000But back then, the United States people were going so far into debt that the government didn't have to.
00:41:15.000You know, there just has never been a time since 1913 that the United States of America has been able to enjoy prosperity without having the equivalent increase in the debt.
00:41:29.000And so it just puts people on the hook, you know, to such an extreme, it's ridiculous.
00:41:34.000And we have the very parasites that have engineered this, not getting in trouble, but getting even more power now.
00:41:42.000They're getting the bailout money, Alex.
00:41:45.000We're having to even go further into this to give them the bailout money.
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00:46:19.000The IMF sells billions and billions in gold, trying to drive it down like they've done the last few years.
00:48:14.000I just wanted to compliment you on your program to enlighten the general public on the plans of the global elitist to exterminate our population.
00:48:29.000I've been doing my own research and I'd like everybody to look up HR 8791.
00:48:57.000There are real executive orders, Presidential Decision Directive 51, John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
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00:52:20.000What the establishment does when they're really putting trips on the streets or really setting up FEMA camps or any other issue is they put out fake stories to then discredit all the real ones.
00:53:09.000I was hoping to ask Ron Paul this, because this sort of concerned him.
00:53:14.000In 1966, Alan Greenspan wrote an article when he was with Anne Rand's Secret Society.
00:53:21.000And it was republished, and it was republished in a compendium book she put out where he talked about gold, put down the Federal Reserve, and that's why they came and then hired Greenspan away.
00:53:33.000Well, the story, I've heard this in the 1980s.
00:53:36.000I was, many years ago, studied economics and stuff.
00:53:42.000I've heard stories, I'm not sure it's true, hoping you could verify this, and also I was actually hoping Ron Paul could verify this.
00:53:49.000Ron Paul got an actual copy of the original treatise that Greenspan wrote and got him to autograph it, and when he asked him if he believed in it, after he autographed it, Greenspan looked at him in the eye and said, absolutely, I would not change a single word in it.
00:54:03.000And my question was, I mean, I've heard this in the 1980s, and I'm not sure if it's true, and you can probably disagree with me.
00:54:10.000But is it possible that with Alan Greenspan being appointed by Ronald Reagan, who was pro-gold standard when he was, before he got shot by Hinckley and stuff, is it possible that Alan Greenspan, his whole mess that he created, the incredible inflation he generated, the removal of Glass-Steagall, all of that, is it possible that he was trying to force us to go back to the gold standard, kicking and screaming, like he said he was going to do when he was with Ayn Rand's little group?
00:54:42.000Well, the problem is the bankers wouldn't have put him in if he was some secret operative of somebody else.
00:54:51.000I mean, we know that Greenspan was just the chairman of the Fed.
00:55:10.000But certainly big central banks have been hoarding gold, and they are talking about having a final global currency, as Ron Paul said last hour, that is partially gold-backed, because they're going to be holding all the gold.
00:55:22.000That's why I differ a bit with Ron Paul about trying to go back to gold, and he's even said you can't do it automatically, because it's all held predominantly, some individuals have small amounts, but it's held predominantly by the elites.
00:55:35.000That's why we protect ourselves by getting gold and silver.
00:55:56.000I've always heard that Ayn Rand's secret group, one of their missions, and he was a big worshipper of Ayn Rand at the time, one of their big missions Yeah, what if?
00:56:06.000to get rid of the Federal Reserve, bring back gold as our current, as our money, and to bring back true economic freedom by any means necessary.
00:56:16.000And, yeah, I've heard the argument that Alan Greenspan went to the dark side and so forth, but what if there was some secret agenda all along and he just, this was like a big act?
00:56:27.000Yeah, what if, what if, what if Santa Claus is real?
00:56:32.000I mean, I think there's a lot better chance that what you're saying is true than if Santa Claus and the elves are real.
00:56:38.000It's just, I don't do a lot of speculating.
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01:00:09.000We have Lawrence J. Kotlikoff, Professor of Economics, Boston University, Research Associate in the National Bureau of Economic Research, President, Economic Security Planning, Inc.
01:00:20.000Joining us today, we're honored to have him, and tomorrow and throughout next week, we're having the different economists on to get their different perspectives and views from this article.
01:00:32.000Because this is the best article I've read, putting it all in context from the scores of economists and federal regulators, former federal regulators we've had on, like Professor Black and many others here on this syndicated radio broadcast.
01:00:48.000But the article is McClatchy, a newspaper syndicated by Greg Gordon, how Goldman secretly bet on the U.S.
01:01:12.000That they secretly bet against housing stocks, knowing they were going to go under, and that they wanted to do this in part for huge profits, but to also destroy Bear Stearns in competition.
01:01:23.000They had their key people in revolving doors in federal regulatory positions, from Treasury to the Federal Reserve, everywhere.
01:01:31.000So an inside job and the article is just so important.
01:01:35.000I've been talking about it since nine days ago, ten days ago, when it came out.
01:01:40.000And quoted in here, Professor Kotlikoff says, The Securities and Exchange Commission should be very interested in any financial company that secretly decides a financial product is a loser and then goes out and actively markets the product, or a very similarly product, to unsuspecting customers without disclosing its true opinion, said Lawrence Kotlikoff, a Boston University economics professor who's proposed a massive overhaul of the nation's banks.
01:02:05.000This is fraud and should be prosecuted.
01:02:07.000Now he's saying in here, if this writer's research is correct, Uh, and from all the other people we've had on in the internal documents, it looks like it is.
01:02:16.000Uh, so, uh, it's great to have you on with us, Professor.
01:02:19.000Yeah, you know, I, I, uh, the statement, this is fraud and should be prosecuted, uh, I think I said, if this turns out to be the case, it is fraud.
01:02:32.000I wasn't referring to what they actually, we don't, I don't know for sure that Goldman actually violated any securities laws and, uh, uh, I don't know that they didn't, so that's all I can say.
01:02:42.000Yeah, you're saying, what Greg Gordon's saying at McClatchy, and this guy's got a great record, if what you're saying is true, and I don't think McClatchy would let him run with this if there wasn't a lot of, where there's smoke, there's fire, but regardless, you're saying if this is true, it's fraud.
01:02:57.000What he alleges sounds like fraudulent behavior, I think, or at least some form of financial malfeasance.
01:03:06.000You just don't sell things to people where you're saying they're X and they're actually Y.
01:03:17.000That's one of the major problems associated with this entire financial debacle, which is we've had people selling snake oil and claiming that it was great for your health, claiming it was penicillin when it was actually snake oil making people sick, financially speaking. claiming it was penicillin when it was actually snake oil So we need to have a brand-new financial system.
01:03:39.000That's what I call for in my... I've got a book that's coming out in March with Wiley called Jimmy Stewart is Dead.
01:03:48.000And it talks about how to fix the financial system from bottom up very simply, which is to make all the financial companies, corporations, operate as pass-through mutual fund companies, just like Fidelity Investments or TI Cref.
01:04:04.000many large financial mutual fund companies.
01:04:08.000And those companies are the only part of the financial system that's still standing because they weren't borrowing money to engage in risky gambles and leave the taxpayer to pay the bill.
01:04:21.000So what they were doing is just intermediating.
01:04:25.000They were taking in money into their mutual funds and then buying the kinds of assets that those investors in the mutual funds wanted to hold.
01:04:33.000So that's the way we need to run our financial system on the basis of mutual funds.
01:04:39.000And by the way, I'm not employed by any mutual fund company or anything like that.
01:05:15.000So you need to have a new system that makes sure that we can't be taken, that the public can't be taken for the ride.
01:05:21.000Well, Larry, they can take your proposal or other similar proposals.
01:05:24.000The problem is Goldman Sachs and other top investment groups and brokerage firms and investment banks have their people at every level in almost every regulatory position in government and quasi-government position.
01:05:39.000And so they can selectively enforce any rules they want.
01:05:43.000In fact, we're hearing about this new bank of the world that'll have regulatory power and it'll knock heads to stop, you know, these types of abuses.
01:05:52.000But the people that are going to be knocking the heads are a bunch of Goldman Sachs goons.
01:05:56.000Well, let's not call them goons, because we don't know.
01:06:15.000Wall Street is a term that refers to not just that part of New York City, but all parts of the financial system worldwide.
01:06:24.000You've had people in Singapore bring down a Baring Bank, which was about a 400-year-old bank.
01:06:31.000There was a French rogue trader brought down Societe Generale, almost destroyed the third-largest bank in France.
01:06:38.000So, this is a global problem, and it's true that the financial community isn't going to like what I have to say when they hear about it.
01:06:48.000On the other hand, they're not going to like what they're going to get hit with Well, I want to go over that, but from your research, Professor, who are the bad guys?
01:06:58.000I mean, Bill Clinton got rid of Glass-Steagall.
01:07:53.000There's a fraud problem, which is that people left, right, and center were issuing mortgages and lying about the income and not verifying the collateral values.
01:08:24.000The whole system is basically corrupt, and I think that's a fair statement, and we have to come up with a system that's foolproof, that has firewalls, that doesn't
01:08:38.000Well, how are a bunch of Goldman Sachs former executives and heads... I mean, Reuters had an article today pointing out almost everybody who isn't former Goldman Sachs in power positions over regulatory systems.
01:08:54.000I mean, it's hard to name a number one person, a number one man or woman in a power position who isn't Goldman Sachs or a former director.
01:09:04.000I mean, you go over the list, it just goes on and on.
01:09:07.000And I want to read to you, Professor, out of this article, which says, It says, McClatchy inquiry found that Goldman Sachs bought and converted into high-yield bonds tens of thousands of mortgages from some prime lenders that became the subjects of FBI investigations and whether they misled borrowers or exaggerated applicants' incomes in justifying making McClatchy inquiry found that Goldman Sachs bought and converted into high-yield bonds
01:09:30.000It says, the piece together, Goldman's role in the subprime meltdown, McClatchy reviewed hundreds of documents, SEC filings, copies of secret investment circulars, lawsuits, and interviewed numerous people familiar with the firm's activities.
01:09:44.000I get the point, but you've got to realize that those statements, you know, Greg's making statements that are general statements.
01:09:48.000worldwide, including European and Asian banks, often in secret deals run through the Cayman Islands and British territory of Caribbean that companies use to bypass U.S. disclosure.
01:10:54.000What can we do at the margin to fix things?
01:10:56.000Okay, I want to hear what your idea is to fix it, but also I want to go back and say, okay, what would you have done in November?
01:11:01.000Well, in September, October, November of last year, instead of saying, here's all these trillions of dollars.
01:11:09.000I would have said, what's the fundamental problems here?
01:11:12.000The fundamental problem is non-disclosure.
01:11:14.000It's a fraud, so let's have a, and the rating was not to be trusted, so let's set up a federal financial authority to rate and, not rate itself, but to arrange for independent rating and verification and full disclosure on the web of All the securities held by, uh, that are being traded in the marketplace.
01:11:36.000Yeah, that would, that would be a big thing, just to have transparency.
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01:16:25.000Okay, so sir, tell us what you think should have happened last year instead of the looting and giving more power to the very banks and regulators that swindled us.
01:17:11.000The President's been calling for about another five or so.
01:17:16.000You know, none of these guys could shoot straight to see the problem.
01:17:21.000And what we just need is to have a system set up that can't fail like the current system has.
01:17:27.000So you set up a federal regulator to disclose, verify, rate, and provide all this information about the securities.
01:17:37.000And then you transform all the financial corporations into pass-through mutual fund companies so No bank can actually, under this proposal, which is called Limited Purpose Banking, can actually borrow money to invest in risky securities.
01:17:51.000What they can do is they can set up mutual funds for us to invest in.
01:17:56.000We'll buy shares of the mutual funds, and then the mutual funds will invest in things like mortgages or commercial paper from companies or stocks, foreign stocks, as well as domestic stocks.
01:18:07.000We have to realize that a third of our financial system already is really the mutual fund industry.
01:18:13.000They hold about $12 trillion in assets.
01:18:15.000So the glass is plenty full with respect to mutual fund companies being able to intermediate between lenders and borrowers and between savers and investors.
01:18:26.000So the idea is not just to turn banks into mutual funds, past-through mutual fund companies that are never in a net-exposed position where they're never if you're not borrowing to invest in risky assets, you can never go under because of a decline past-through mutual fund companies that are never in a net-exposed position where they're never if you're You're just not exposed.
01:18:48.000So we're talking about zero net exposure of the banking system.
01:18:53.000But we're also talking about the insurance industry being treated identically as banks because insurance companies As we've seen, are engaged in the same kind of security transactions that are banks.
01:19:08.000You can't really tell the difference between a financial instrument and an insurance policy.
01:19:14.000They're very similar, essentially identical financial instruments.
01:19:20.000So, what we need to do is make the insurance companies run as passenger mutual fund companies as well.
01:19:28.000But Professor, let me ask you this then.
01:19:31.000What is the plan or what looks like the dominant re-regulation that's being set up now?
01:19:36.000by CDS securities through mutual funds.
01:19:40.000But, Professor, let me ask you this then.
01:19:42.000What is the plan or what looks like the dominant re-regulation that's being set up now?
01:19:48.000Because from what I've read in the newspapers, I'm not trying to pick on the precious Goldman Sachs here, but even Reuters has pointed out they are the most represented in government and in the regulatory system, with Henry Paulson getting up and admitting that it's not a conflict of interest with Henry Paulson getting up and admitting that it's not a conflict of interest because the Treasury Department gave him a waiver to be involved with Goldman Sachs while he was giving billions to Goldman Sachs
01:20:16.000Yeah, no, this is like a revolving door, and this is not...
01:20:50.000He doesn't necessarily have to worry about whether Goldman Sachs is going to like him at the margin.
01:20:55.000So I think we've got to be careful about ascribing motives to individuals who are in a position of trying to save a country they thought was going down the tubes.
01:21:06.000But the real thing is, how do we get a system set up so that Wall Street can influence Pennsylvania Avenue?
01:21:16.000And there's no, you know, whether or not the guys from Pennsylvania having to go back to Wall Street to work, they're not actually going to be changing the financial system in somebody's favor.
01:21:25.000Let's talk more about where the regulation is going versus what you're saying is a good idea.
01:21:35.000And how do we get rid of these derivatives?
01:21:38.000Or is there a place in your plan for derivatives?
01:21:41.000And will anybody ever get in trouble from Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase at the revolving door with a fellow deserved?
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01:25:26.000Professor of Economics, Boston University, Lawrence J. Kotlikoff is our guest.
01:25:32.000Okay, we've got about seven minutes left, sir.
01:25:34.000Are you asking about whether the current solution being proposed by the administration is the right way to go?
01:25:43.000No, I think it's just spending a lot of money and maintaining the current structure.
01:25:48.000I think it's putting us at grave risk.
01:25:51.000We could have, really, literally, a run on the bank tomorrow.
01:25:56.000After that, print trillions of dollars to cover all the liabilities, and then there would be high inflation that would most likely break out.
01:26:06.000And then people who didn't run would find that they got their money back, but it was worth nothing in terms of what they could buy with it.
01:26:14.000So there's this myth out there that we actually have purchasing power deposit insurance.
01:26:21.000We just have money deposit insurance, and it's not really going to protect us.
01:26:26.000From the hyperinflation that might result from a run of the bank.
01:26:44.000The problem is that it's not that coming up with a new form of pain relief is a problem, a new pill like a Tylenol.
01:26:53.000When that was developed, that wasn't the problem.
01:26:55.000The problem is that when you have somebody putting cyanide in a Tylenol bottle and marketing it as Tylenol, that's when you have a problem.
01:27:11.000And Johnson & Johnson spent like $100 million taking all the Tylenol and repackaging it in safety sealed containers.
01:27:19.000We need to have a bulletproof system where the government says if you're going to buy this security, you can check exactly what it is so you know what you're buying.
01:27:27.000We need to make sure that the banks are just playing middlemen and they're not trying to play poker with our chips.
01:27:34.000And we need to just transform the entire financial corporate system, including the insurance companies, into passenger mutual fund companies and run all the business through mutual funds.
01:27:47.000And so for an example, if you think about CDS derivative security, that's really just an insurance policy against a particular bond going broke, going defaulting.
01:28:02.000So, you can have an insurance company set up a mutual fund where people invest money and they, in effect, take a position when they put their money down on whether or not IBM would default on its debt over the course of the year.
01:28:14.000The money is all put into a pot at the beginning of the year.
01:28:19.000It's invested in Treasury bills, one of your Treasury bills.
01:28:23.000And then a year later, you see whether or not IBM defaulted on its debt.
01:28:27.000If it did, the ones who bet that way get the pot less the fee.
01:28:32.000If it doesn't, the ones who bet the other way get the pot less the fee.
01:28:37.000So this kind of betting on whether a company defaults or whether the mortality rate of the economy exceeds some number or whether You have the gross domestic product grow by 5% or 2%.
01:28:55.000All these kinds of bets that people should be allowed to make with each other for good economic reasons can arise safely in this system that I'm talking about, limited purpose banking.
01:29:08.000And if you think about it, that kind of an insurance arrangement is really a paramutual betting arrangement, which we see at the racetrack every day of the year.
01:29:19.000But that's not a completely rigged system, so the big central banks and the mega brokerage firms aren't going to want it.
01:29:26.000As you said, that's not the plan they're going with.
01:29:41.000To look at this idea, which is limited purpose banking, the book will be out in March, but in the short run, there are columns I've written in the New Republic, Bloomberg, Forbes, the FT, all on my website.
01:29:53.000People can read these pieces that have been written in the Dallas Morning News, Boston Globe.
01:29:59.000So, this idea about how to fix the financial system is very simple, and other economists are independently coming up with the same idea.
01:30:09.000It's the only comprehensive solution that anyone's really advanced in the public forum here.
01:30:16.000And I think once the public gets behind it, you know, it may conflict with Wall Street's interests in the short run, but I think over time they'll be in better shape if they go along with this, because the alternative may be that they're going to be babysat in ways they don't like.
01:30:36.000But paying people hundreds of millions of dollars for running companies into the ground, that wouldn't happen under what I'm proposing.
01:30:43.000The bankers would run the mutual funds, and if they did poorly, they'd get paid, you know, they wouldn't be able to charge very high fees.
01:30:49.000If they did well, they'd be able, over time, to charge higher fees.
01:30:52.000So an actual free market, but that's not a rigged casino, so they don't want that.
01:30:56.000So it doesn't look like we're going to get that, but after another crash, maybe we'll get something like your solution.
01:31:02.000On the current course, in closing, give us your website, and then in the current course, where do you see us going?
01:31:09.000Where do you see us going on the current course?
01:31:13.000On the current cost, of course, I see this is very dicey, what we're doing here.
01:31:19.000The government has issued about $24 trillion worth of commitments to pay off things under certain circumstances.
01:31:31.000We don't have time for me to list them all, but that number actually comes from the government itself.
01:31:42.000If there's a major event that people get panicked again, we could see runs on the banks, runs on the insurance companies.
01:31:50.000There's cash to render values to the tune of about $3 trillion out there that people can run and try and get their cash in their insurance policies, because I think the insurance company is going to go under.
01:32:01.000You could have this is what exactly what the Treasury and the Fed were so concerned about, Paulson and Bernanke, when they were really pulling out their hairs, remaining hairs, about what could happen.
01:32:16.000We have to get our system out of that position where we can have systemic, colossal financial failure.
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01:37:58.000I would have the quote of Barry Goldwater about how the CFR Interlateral Commission are a private group trying to take over our government and set up world government.
01:38:10.000Ness in California, you're on the air.
01:38:13.000Hey, Alex, it's a pleasure to be on the air.
01:38:16.000Long time listener, first time caller.
01:38:19.000I actually heard about you through Immortal Technique years and years ago.
01:38:23.000I always thought you were talking bullcrap until I went down the rabbit hole and I realized that there was more to what he was saying than, you know, there was more to it than what he was just saying.
01:38:53.000But either way, I was hoping to get on when you had on Ron Paul because I've always tell people stuff and everybody tells me, well, what are you going to do about it?
01:40:11.000Say, you know, I want to just make a couple quickie statements.
01:40:15.000It appears that the government will lie with everything they say as well as what they omit telling the people.
01:40:21.000I have a brief statement of fact that occurred here in Southern California the other day.
01:40:26.000A pregnant woman with pneumonia went to the hospital to give birth to her child.
01:40:30.000During the delivery, this woman died due to complications from the pneumonia.
01:40:35.000But the hospital announced that she died from the swine flu.
01:40:39.000The husband, the father of the child, which did survive, tried again and again to correct their false announcements.
01:40:46.000Saying that she had died from complications due to the pneumonia.
01:40:49.000That's because they've been paid to fearmonger and hype, and all over the country, I don't know if your story's true, I believe it, but I can't confirm it.
01:40:56.000They've been caught saying people die from swine flu, and then a week later there's a tiny blurb in the paper saying they actually died from something else.
01:41:06.000They have not, they've ignored what this fella has been saying.
01:41:09.000It appears they've got him lying to falsify these statistics about the flu.
01:42:00.000Look, I believe people two months ago, when they were calling saying they injected my kid here in Texas, they injected my kid in California, in Kentucky, in New York, and I went to the school, and it was always elementary kids who they could say, oh, they're just confused.
01:42:15.000And they would show up, and they'd say, you're the only person saying this, and then more parents would walk in and say, you injected my kid!
01:42:23.000And then it came out in the news everywhere they're doing it!
01:42:26.000So, A, they're doing it illegally and secretly, B, they lie about it when they get caught, and C, they've now been caught lying about it, and have been caught again.
01:42:36.000So, how do you trust a government, a media, hospitals, public schools?
01:42:41.000I mean, they've been lying for years, saying it's the law, you've got to take flu vaccines.
01:42:55.000They take people's children that don't take shots when there's no law.
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01:44:01.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
01:44:05.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
01:44:08.000As we're finishing off this agenda, That we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
01:44:13.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress.
01:44:17.000And they really are calling the shots.
01:44:19.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
01:44:24.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
01:44:38.000And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
01:44:41.000Today, it seems like nobody does care.
01:44:43.000And right now in Washington, D.C., We have seen a fall of the Republic.
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01:50:31.000This is cyanide to the New World Order.
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01:52:22.000Host of the highly successful Fear Factor, News Radio, The Man Show, HBO Specials, Top Comedian, and known as a conspiracy terrorist by the media.
01:52:32.000That means he questions the establishment.
01:52:45.000I was actually curious if you had seen Al Gore who came on Comedy Central yesterday on the Colbert Report and the Daily Show promoting his Your Choice Climate Bullcrap Global Warming book.
01:52:56.000No, I didn't see it, but I know he's got a new movie coming out saying it's a religion.
01:53:00.000It's a made-up... He admits it's a religion.
01:53:06.000He's just coming on there and he's smiling.
01:53:09.000He's going with the little skits and he's getting, he's winning the hearts of these, you know, very weak minded... Just like he sold NAFTA and GATT.
01:53:18.000Yeah, he's a wonderful guy, but other than that, I was actually going to get a credit card yesterday.
01:53:24.000I know it's bad, but I was going to just buy as many copies of DVDs so I could put it out there and really help fight this info war where I'm at and everywhere else.
01:53:32.000And I was told by federal law, this, this, you have to know this, and I asked the lady on the Bank of America, I said, what is the federal law?
01:54:09.000Look, I work in finance, and I'll tell you, the people in our industry know very, very little about economics, and sometimes even investments.
01:54:17.000And, you know, I happen to know a lot of these guys that are chief investment officers up at the major firms that people know.
01:54:24.000You know, PIMCO, BlackRock, Leg Mason, I can go on and on.
01:54:28.000But they give a lot of speeches and conferences and the stuff they put out to the media, but
01:54:34.000You know, if you have a relationship with these guys, and if they know that you know what they know, if you get what I mean, if they know that you understand the same level of understanding they have, they're a little more open, I've found, because since I talked to you, I don't know, a month ago, I try to be a lot more poignant with my questioning to these guys now that they understand and know a little bit more, and they're all in agreement that
01:55:03.000The major themes that get talked about on your show are coming down, economically anyway.
01:55:08.000They all are in agreement that either slow in overtime or potentially quicker, that the dollar will fall against all other currencies.
01:55:39.000Number two, inflation will go up, or at least the prices of stuff will go up.
01:55:44.000Inflation is already happening because that's monetary base expansion, which clearly has been happening.
01:55:50.000Stocks will go up probably Over time, but it's going to be negated by the inflation.
01:55:56.000And I bring it back to the simple point of, you know, back in 2000, when when the Dow was around 10,000 and gold was 250.
01:56:05.000You know, look at where it is now that that ratio was it cost 40 ounces of gold to buy the Dow then and now with gold over 1000 now it costs like Nine ounces of gold.
01:56:16.000And probably, depending on who you listen to, that relationship will slowly go down five to one, and maybe to two to one.
01:56:24.000So does that mean that the Dow is at $20,000 and gold is at $10,000?
01:56:29.000You know, that relationship is probably going to exist.
01:56:32.000Stock market can still go up, but again, it's the purchasing power that makes sense.
01:56:39.000But the other part, the last part, is that You know, most of these guys and firms and people in business, you know, they're selling to their book.
01:56:45.000Meaning, they're selling, they're trying to sell you on what they sell or what they recommend.
01:56:52.000So, you gotta listen, you gotta, you know, understand who you're... I hear ya, and I appreciate your call.
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02:00:34.000That a world government is going to be created.
02:00:37.000The word government actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity.
02:00:43.000The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries in satisfaction of what is called coyly the climate debt.
02:00:56.000Because we've been burning CO2 and they haven't, and we've been screwing up the climate.
02:01:00.000We haven't been screwing up the climate, but that's the line.
02:01:03.000And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.
02:01:09.000How many of you think that the word election, or democracy, or vote, or ballot, occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty?
02:01:21.000So at last, the communists who piled out of The Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement and took over Greenpeace so that my friends who founded it left within a year because they'd captured it.
02:02:46.000I've seen this stuff about government and climate debt and enforcement.
02:02:51.000They are going to do this to you, whether you like it or not.
02:02:56.000But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire, it is here that perhaps at this 11th hour, at the 59th minute and 59th second, You will rise up and you will stop your President from signing that dreadful treaty.
02:03:19.000That purposeless treaty, for there is no problem with the climate, and even if there were, economically speaking, there's nothing we can do about it.
02:03:26.000So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your President in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War.
02:03:39.000He quoted from your great poet Longfellow.
02:10:12.000I mean, just to take, just devil's advocate, that could be just the pressure of the building collapsing, forcing all this air out and forcing all these windows to explode.
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02:14:10.000They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
02:14:12.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
02:14:19.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
02:14:24.000Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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02:16:24.000In just a few seconds, another building, building number seven, one of the buildings in support of the World Trade Center towers, has collapsed.
02:16:54.000Okay, let's go ahead and roll the clip again from the start for everybody, where the police are saying, get back.
02:16:59.000And then I've interviewed Craig Bartmer and other police officers who were there and they said, they walked up to FEMA and said, what are you doing?
02:17:05.000And they said, countdown 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, run for your lives!
02:17:10.000There was a countdown on the radio to blow up seven.
02:17:46.000Show where they were live when it happened.
02:17:48.000Okay, but isn't it possible, or is it possible rather, that those cops were saying that the building's going to fall because it was about to collapse?
02:18:00.000And then we have Silverstein saying, we made the decision to pull it, gave the order and watched it come down.
02:18:04.000So you believe that the reason why they brought this down was whatever documents they had in there were very incriminating and they had gotten away with a lot of different, you know, a lot of corruption and that's why they brought that down because it just makes everything else disappear.
02:18:17.000Well they picked a site where they could destroy a building and then cover up their evidence during another attack they were using as a pretext to launch wars.
02:18:25.000So you firmly believe that the attacks on the Twin Towers were premeditated by the United States government in order to bring us into war?
02:18:32.000I believed it eight years ago on 9-11 that night you came on.
02:18:51.000history, you look into the Gulf of Tonkin, you look into the Northwoods document, where they were planning fake terror attacks on American civilians in order to get us into a war with Cuba from 1962.
02:19:03.000When you look into that stuff and you realize that everything evolves, you know, science evolves, culture evolves and, you know, corruption evolves to the corruption that is that deep that could run the government, the corruption that can kill Kennedy, the corruption that can fake wars or fake attacks rather than to bring us into war like they did with the Gulf the corruption that can fake wars or fake attacks rather than to bring us into war like That doesn't go away.
02:19:24.000It gets bigger and stronger as long as it isn't exposed, as long as some massive arrest didn't take place and hundreds and thousands of people were brought to justice and paraded out on television.
02:19:35.000No, I mean, the biggest corruption ever was Watergate.
02:19:40.000I mean, that's... And now we just expect the government to spy on us.
02:19:44.000But if you compare that to what we know has taken place, just the Gulf of Tonkin, just that, the fake attack that brought us into the Vietnam War, just the idea that the Northwoods document was actually signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, they sat down and they said, yes, we agree, this idea of fake terror attacks on American civilians is a good idea.
02:20:04.000People are going to die for lies, for theater that they're going to create.
02:20:08.000They're going to create these fake Cuban attacks.
02:20:14.000And if no one was brought to justice, and they weren't, it's not like that stopped and everybody just got a conscience and met in the parking lot and all held hands and sang Kumbaya and decided, well, we're not going to be douchebags anymore.
02:20:24.000We're going to be nice the way we run the world.
02:20:29.000And, you know, people don't want to look at the possibility that our government is involved in some really scary, really shady stuff that involves the death of our own citizens for profit.
02:20:39.000People don't want to look at that, but it is possible.
02:20:41.000Absolutely, and 30 years ago, even a decade ago, they called it a conspiracy theory to say the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964 was a conspiracy theory.
02:20:50.000Now it's been declassified, the LBJ tapes have been released, they did stage the whole thing, and 58,000 Americans died and over a million Vietnam The History Channel has said that the United States had advanced warning about Pearl Harbor and that they allowed it to happen to bring us into World War II.
02:21:28.000Did you hear that Homeland Security put out a report, we got it and released it, we'll come back and talk about it after this break, where they admit that their main threat is conservatives, gun owners, libertarians, and veterans, and the whole police state grid.
02:21:43.000Well, those are the people that are organized.
02:21:45.000You know, hippies will complain, but veterans will say that we should leave the frozen food out in the desert.
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02:26:16.000The dangerous ones are the dudes who know the Constitution.
02:26:18.000The dudes who are living out in the desert with dried fruit in their basement and, you know, and they got water, you know, a giant cistern in the backyard that could last them for three years.
02:26:26.000Those are the guys you have to worry about.
02:26:27.000Those are the guys that are going to organize.
02:26:28.000But you're saying the criminals have to worry about them?
02:26:42.000You've got to be worried about people organizing, not because there's something evil about organizing, but because people are such lemmings.
02:26:50.000That's the real problem with, like, Waco, Texas and stuff like that.
02:26:52.000When you see some dude stocking up guns, you gotta go, God damn it, what is that idiot doing?
02:26:56.000You know, you gotta worry about that if you're the government or if you're regular civilians, because guess what, man?
02:27:01.000It's like what's going on in Afghanistan.
02:27:03.000They have warlords, and these warlords run regions of the country, and that's one of the reasons why it's so difficult to break through over there.
02:30:17.000That was the most shocking thing about 9-11, was that within a couple days, all these people were driving by with American flags all over their cars.
02:30:25.000And for a while, I was like, well, maybe this is good, because I was like, OK, look, people are going to feel good about America.
02:30:31.000We're going to rally together on this.
02:32:07.000They might duke it out in the parking lot and leave us alone.
02:32:10.000Do you think my stalkers and your stalkers would like each other?
02:32:11.000I have the type where a woman will get out in a parking lot and come up and say hi to me, and then run around screaming that I've attacked her.
02:33:31.000Okay, let's get serious here for a moment.
02:33:33.000Did you see the New York Times last week, where they just admitted that Mohammed Karzai's brothers, the head opium dealer, opium production's up over 12 times since we liberated it, and that our CIA is basically protecting the opium.
02:33:45.000I heard BBC three months ago admit that, but to have the government just going, yeah, we grow the opium, we're going to put you in prison if we catch you with it.
02:33:53.000I did see that and I found it incredibly fascinating how little it was talked about.
02:34:48.000Well, that's why they went after Nixon for a small thing that didn't touch other elites.
02:34:52.000That's why they went after Clinton for a woman in the White House, because that's a little corruption they can burn them for that doesn't affect all the others.
02:35:01.000I mean, how can we not decriminalize drugs when Europe's done it and it's made drug abuse go way down?
02:35:07.000We know prohibition of alcohol tripled alcoholism.
02:35:10.000No, we know the drugs are kept illegal because the big CIA banks are laundering the money.
02:35:15.000Well, it's that too, and it's also that the politicians, I mean, that's like the big idea, you know, the giant version of it.
02:35:22.000The smaller version of it is that politicians get into office because they support these gigantic businesses that give them millions of dollars to fund their campaigns.
02:35:30.000You know, people that don't think that they're going to be in bed with these companies and that they're going to make decisions based on these companies.
02:35:37.000These guys are not going to give politicians millions and millions of dollars towards their campaigns if there's not something in it for them.
02:35:43.000And the something in it for them is they make things illegal that can interfere with their business.
02:35:48.000And natural things are the biggest one.
02:35:50.000Because you can't put a patent on marijuana.
02:35:52.000So the idea is that if you made marijuana legal, it would literally bankrupt the pharmaceutical industry because over a hundred different things that we have pills for, you could just have pot for, and people could grow it in their backyard.
02:36:33.000You know, that's the problem with cops is you have douchebags just like you have douchebags that work at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
02:36:38.000You know, there's just going to be a certain percentage of the population are going to be idiots.
02:36:41.000Like, there's a guy recently who arrested a 15-year-old girl for taking photographs of her for JJ and sending them to all the boys in class.
02:36:49.000They arrested this young girl for child pornography.
02:36:54.000And because of public outrage, they had to drop the case, and they charged her with one count of possession of criminal No, no, they do that all the time.
02:37:02.000Sixteen-year-old girls show their breasts and send it to their friends, and they might need to get in a little trouble from their parents, but certainly not arrested as a child pornographer.
02:37:27.000But I don't know what the solution is.
02:37:29.000Well, here's an article out of McClatchy Newspapers.
02:37:32.000They got the internal Goldman Sachs documents that Goldman Sachs, who headed up the private Federal Reserve, the Treasury Department, they had their people in all the government positions, knowingly bet against the housing market while telling people to invest in it, to implode the market.
02:37:50.000Have you ever read Matt Taibbi's articles about it?
02:37:53.000Yeah, Matt Taibbi writes articles making fun of me for 9-11 Truth, then he comes along and waters everything down on the Rolling Stone about the private Fed and everybody worships him, but I'm glad he's coming around a little bit.
02:38:04.000Well, I think that what he's saying about the financial institutions is pretty powerful, because what he does is he breaks it down in a way that the average person can understand it.
02:38:12.000Like me, I have no background in finance whatsoever.
02:38:15.000Barely paid attention in high school to mathematics.
02:38:18.000My attitude was that if there's a calculator and there's batteries, I don't need that.
02:38:45.000I mean, that's really the evidence that we see in the financial market, the evidence that we see right now with, you know, the economy falling apart.
02:38:52.000All of this corruption is just a symptom of a much greater evil.
02:38:56.000It's not like this is corrupt, but then you get to world banking and government and, oh, that's not corrupt.
02:40:35.000I mean, that's the big accusation, was that the CIA was... Well, he had a CIA girlfriend who was sitting there guiding the aircraft into New Orleans.
02:40:44.000As they were... Yeah, yeah, that's the story you told.
02:40:50.000It's amazing how little attention gets paid to this, and how much attention gets paid to Balloon Boy, and all these other stupid distractions.
02:41:22.000And that is also one of the reasons why drugs are illegal.
02:41:25.000One of the reasons why drugs are illegal isn't just the economic factor of it, it's the social implications of giving people things that change your consciousness.
02:41:33.000Giving people something that resets your consciousness.
02:41:35.000Because the government wants a corner on that to use TV and culture to do the programming.
02:41:41.000They don't want you programming yourself.
02:41:43.000And they want their Ritalin and their Prozac that they know is deadly.
02:41:46.000Well, they also know they don't bring you unique ideas.
02:41:49.000Those things make you sedate, and they make you accept your situation, and they make you calm.
02:41:54.000The drugs that the government is more afraid of are the drugs that aren't... It's not like money drugs.
02:42:45.000Well, listen, it's okay for the government to shoot kids up with mercury, give them Ritalin and Prozac that eats holes in their brains, and give them heart palpitations, but don't talk about that devil mushroom on the show here.
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02:46:58.000We got three, four minutes left in the show.
02:47:01.000I want to end it with AM 1360's Richard Hunter, KMNY, so we can do a quick talk with him so he can air it there locally in drive time and get people calling in about the discussion.
02:47:30.000The CFR audio just got released a few days ago where the CFR, Council on Foreign Relations, is internally talking a month ago about people don't want it.
02:47:39.000We'll release limited amounts and then hype it up that it's only in certain places so the few idiots that want it all run down there to get it and it creates artificial scarcity like toy companies have been caught staging those Christmas toy riots with local news media that's in on it and then they can make a billion bucks off the, you know, turbo dollar whatever it is.
02:47:56.000Everybody wants it and then everybody goes.
02:47:58.000Yeah, so false artificial scarcities was being created, plus it's all over the news that they're forcing school children to take it all over the country, and when they get caught, they say, oops, it was an accident.
02:48:09.000So the truth is, more than 60% of U.S.
02:48:13.000doctors, German doctors, British doctors are refusing to take it.
02:48:15.000Nurses in New York sued so they wouldn't have to take it.
02:49:32.000Joe, you're right that that is part of what happened, but the companies were already making this same H1N1 a year ago before this happened.
02:49:40.000And I covered in January on air that there was going to be a stage flu run because they were training for martial law drills all over the country.
02:49:46.000The good news is the public hasn't bought it, so they're having to pull back, though Obama did declare his emergency.
02:52:39.000And we've got Ari and we've got Brian.
02:52:42.000Hey, what do you... because I check out joerogan.net, I check out Brian's website, I check out Ari's material, and I don't see... I see some photos and some video posted, but this guy's shooting video at 4 o'clock in the morning when we're in Las Vegas.
02:52:55.000I mean, where is... what is all this video going into?
02:53:41.000I am going to try to just sit back, which is hard to do, and shut up.
02:53:45.000And I want Joe Rogan's view on the world, technology advancing at an accelerated rate, humans can't evolve psychologically to deal with it.
02:54:00.000I mean, if you look at physically how we have developed and evolved, we haven't evolved that much over the last thousand, few thousand years.
02:54:09.000But technology has just gone through the roof.
02:54:11.000It's gotten to a crazy place where we have this unbelievable control over our environment, the ability to construct giant buildings and send photos through the air.
02:54:20.000I mean, it's a very, very heady thing, you know.
02:54:24.000And I think it would take an incredibly enlightened society just to deal with what we're capable of right now, never mind what's coming in the future as this exponentially increasing technology, the advancement, the innovation.
02:54:40.000It's all coming at this incredibly rapid pace.
02:54:45.000Emotionally, we're still tribal monkeys.
02:54:48.000But we have this incredible power now.
02:54:50.000And that's why a lot of scientists believe we won't get to a type one society, meaning a society that survives and gives off planet, that we're probably going to destroy ourselves.
02:55:29.000I mean I can't tell you how many times.
02:55:32.000I have known somebody's looking at me when I'm walking around on my family ranch.
02:55:35.000They say that that is the number one way that they can show that there is some sort of a connection between human beings telepathically, is the ability to recognize when someone's staring at you.
02:55:43.000They've done scientific studies on that, and they've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
02:55:47.000Look, 100% of the time, when I'm in a restaurant, and I feel somebody staring at me, especially if it's with bad intent, or some redneck doesn't like me or something, I'll feel it, and I'll turn around, and they'll be going, and we'll go.
02:55:58.000It's a weird thing that we can detect that.
02:56:00.000You know, and I think that is just, look, at one point in time we couldn't communicate.
02:56:04.000But if you believe in evolution, you have to believe that at one point in time we were monkeys that just grunted and made noises and swung from trees.
02:56:11.000And then something happened where we went from that to where we are now, where we figured out not just one, but Dozens and dozens of systems of communication all over the world, where we write little symbols that mean certain things, and we can say noises with our mouth, and we understand what we're trying to say because of that.
02:56:27.000I mean, that alone, that incredible ability to communicate, I mean, that's a gigantic... But birds know two days before an earthquake.
02:56:39.000I mean, I don't even think it's so much as a primitive thing, but something we always had and are developing because our five senses are in such a limited spectrum of what the mathematics show that there is dimensionally.
02:57:44.000Yeah, but what technology may be is a breaking of those barriers.
02:57:49.000What we might be able to do with like the Large Hadron Collider and all this crazy manipulation of matter, we might be able to figure out a way to break into other dimensions.
02:58:01.000That stuff a hundred years ago developed the A-bomb equations on a chalkboard.
02:58:06.000This is a exponential multi-level, not one jump, but several jumps past that.
02:58:12.000And they believe scientists that work there are sabotaging it because they've had blowups and disasters and they can't get the thing started.
02:58:59.000All of this technology is a metamorphosis, and the elite believe that.
02:59:02.000And we covered that in my film, Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
02:59:05.000And they openly, I mean, all the top scientists, futurists, government, UN people, they said they want to exterminate 90% of us and allow that 10% to fuse with the man-machine interface and then take off to the stars.
02:59:18.000Now whether that's real or not, that's what the elite believe, and they already have life extension technologies they don't want the public to have access to.
02:59:25.000It sounds ridiculous, but from where we are, it's not as big of a leap as where we're living or the era we're living in right now in comparison to people that we know existed, like the Indians or cavemen.
03:00:21.000He said, I think it's round, and I'm going around it.
03:00:24.000Yeah, there's rats on board with them, they're all getting scurvy because nobody had vitamin C. Those early traveler dudes were nuts.
03:00:32.000Well, the really nutty idea is the idea of guys like Graham Hancock, guys who believe that those early traveler dudes were just this generation's version of that, and that there's been many, many thousands of years of civilization that we don't even know about because there was a lot of doubt.
03:00:45.000A lot of evidence does show that it gets built up.
03:01:22.000And the scientists, I've had top volcanologists on, the government admits that's true, and the public has a built-in denial switch where I get emails saying, you're a liar, Yellowstone is not a caldera.
03:01:32.000Well, it's like a gigantic game of musical chairs.
03:01:34.000It's like, we hope that we are not going to be here when the music stops.
03:01:39.000You know, that's what we hope, that while our life is here, and while our family's life is here, and our grandchildren, everything's going to be okay.
03:01:46.000I think that life on Earth is very much like an anthill in a field.
03:01:51.000You know, the ants in that anthill, they have known nothing other than that anthill.
03:01:55.000They've only been alive for a couple weeks.
03:01:57.000As long as they've been alive, that anthill's been there.
03:01:59.000That anthill sustains them all, and they think this is just how it always is.
03:02:03.000And then some little kid walks by, sees that anthill, and stomps on it.
03:02:36.000You know, they raise up, and it just takes a long-ass time.
03:02:39.000And we're only here on this planet for a blip.
03:02:41.000And by the way, until the 90s, when Saturn got hit by that comet that broke in all those pieces, Scientists argued and said, no, only every billion years do we get hit by a big object.
03:02:55.000Now, because of the satellites and everything, they know we get hit every couple hundred years by gigantic objects.
03:03:05.000Instead, the government's worried about spying on the citizens and controlling us, instead of dealing with all these objects.
03:03:31.000You put weapon systems in space, but then you don't want their treaties against that, because whoever has weapon systems can turn them back towards Earth.
03:03:40.000Don't worry, Joe, the weapon systems are there.
03:03:42.000I mean, you know, I've read all that stuff about the Star Wars scientists, how many different scientists turned out missing or dead, some strange, you know... Bob Bowman's in the hospital right now.
03:03:52.000He's actually in Fall of the Republic.
03:03:55.000And he won't talk about it when I talk to him in private, but he said, I'll tell you what's declassified, because NSA spokesmen and Space Command spokesmen have let some of it out.
03:04:03.000When he was there in the late 70s, they announced it in the 80s, it was around the 70s, They had an entire fleet of unmanned aircraft up there, Black Manas space planes, but they don't use nuclear weapons, they use meteor guns.
03:04:18.000And they drop solid DU-SABOs into orbit that accelerate to 30,000 miles an hour, and they can kill people five miles under the ground.
03:04:27.000And it's a global decapitation weapon where they can wipe out the whole leadership of the world in a matter of minutes.
03:05:13.000And that's why it's called a meteor gun because when these birds are about to attack, they accelerate coming in at an angle on the atmosphere to accelerate so there's already a greater acceleration than a meteor would normally have.
03:05:25.000Then they fire with a high-powered rocket booster, a solid DU round, which with its kinetic energy, when it hits, has the power of a medium-yield nuclear weapon.
03:06:18.000Exactly, but this scientific dictatorship admits in their public documents that they've studied all of that and they've built a scientific dictatorship so people can't get out of it.
03:06:27.000Joe, I have hundreds, we talk about documents, but I have hundreds of documents, textbooks, government books and reports, UN documents.
03:07:02.000And this guy recently declassified chemtrails, and it made almost no news, and said, yeah, we've been spraying you with barium salts and aluminum dioxide.
03:07:52.000They went up in the air and scooped it up?
03:07:53.000Yes, they used aircraft and also got ground samples.
03:07:56.000And they said, this is barium salts, aluminum dioxide, weather modification, nuclei.
03:08:01.000They declassified some of it five years ago.
03:08:03.000I got Ben Levinson, the father of weather weapons, on.
03:08:06.000Then, eight months ago, Poldren, the White House science archives, a press conference, and says, we've been studying it and it's aluminum dioxide, barium salts.
03:12:50.000When you have unlimited mobility with your body, you can move, especially if you're really flexible, you move your body in a certain way, and then you got two arms to attack, two legs to attack, and the neck.
03:13:02.000And there's so many different possibilities, so many different ways to attack someone.
03:13:05.000It's really like a kinetic game of chess.
03:14:16.000You know, and you've got to be aware of those.
03:14:17.000No, I was like a nice little kid when I was like 10, 11, 12, and kids were like 5, 6 years older would beat me up.
03:14:24.000And that ended up making me a little bit stronger, but it would have been great if somebody would have put me in something like Jiu Jitsu way back then, because I wouldn't have learned how to just have knockdown drag outs with people.
03:14:50.000You know, you're playing a game and the game it's like literally like my friend Eddie who teaches me describes it as like like a video game.
03:17:24.000Yeah, where they throw the gun down to get him to pick it up.
03:17:27.000But there's also that Clint Eastwood movie where he goes to the mining town, and they kill the guy's dad, and then they throw the gun down in front of the kid and say, pick it up.
03:17:34.000I mean, that's actually happened in some real Western stories.
03:17:37.000That's why you see it in so many movies.
03:18:13.000And they're doing voice analysis and everything else?
03:18:15.000Well, you know, that just goes to show you, people will believe almost anything.
03:18:18.000You know, there's a lot of dopes out there.
03:18:20.000That's why, you know, they don't want people organising, like we were talking about Waco earlier.
03:18:24.000The reason why they don't want that is not just that they don't want people to be able to protect themselves from the government, there's probably a little bit of that, but there's also, they don't want warlords.
03:18:32.000They don't want people to do like what's going on in Afghanistan, to be able to start their own cults and arm everybody and control these groups of people because it's not hard to control people.
03:18:41.000We have a defect in our operating system and you can exploit that defect with confidence and with, you know, a clear doctrine of what's supposed to go down and what's supposed to happen.
03:18:54.000You could say that you're getting this information from aliens or higher power or what Joseph Smith said, you know, he got it from golden tablets that had the lost work of Jesus on it.
03:19:35.000And we need to follow him instead of the cult of Republicans and Democrats.
03:19:39.000I agree 100% and when he talks about these vaccinations he says it's absolutely ridiculous and he talks about how the regular flu is so much more deadly and killed so many more people per year than this swine flu and everybody's jumping all over this and they're making a big deal out of it.
03:19:54.000Well, and again, it's common sense that this is killing about one-fifth in the flu season, what the regular flu does.
03:21:15.000Al Gore has made a lot of money off of this global warming.
03:21:18.000That's one thing that people don't realize.
03:21:20.000Al Gore only had a couple million bucks in 2001, and now he recently made some $35 million investment, which just shows how much money he's accumulated over the years.
03:21:29.000And that investment was given Obama money.
03:21:32.000So, so, I mean, look, the guy's worth over a billion bucks.