Andrew Napolitano is a tenured Superior Court Judge in New Jersey and now an analyst on Fox News Channel's "Freedom Watch" with Glenn Beck. He has an extremely popular syndicated radio show and is the guest host for Glenn Beck's show, "The Glenn Beck Show." He is a constitutionalist and has written an editorial last week pointing out that the Republican health care plan is almost as bad as the Democrats' plan.
00:00:58.000And so here for about 15 minutes to talk about healthcare, the big government takeover of healthcare, extrajudicial, these boards decide what to do, and to talk about the cap and trade, which I believe has a good chance of passing the Senate.
00:01:12.000Both of these are now in orbit, like ICBM.
00:01:16.000Space stations about to drop nukes on our Republic and Judge Andrew Napolitano is there fighting it valiantly.
00:01:24.000Judge, it's great to have you with us.
00:01:31.000What's more important, cap and trade and the total micromanagement of our life by special interests with Al Gore set to make the money or the government takeover of health care?
00:01:40.000Oh boy, that's really a pick-your-poison, Alex.
00:01:43.000It's all part of the same big government mentality.
00:01:47.000Your kind comments about the piece I wrote was really from a monologue that I gave while filling in for Glenn Beck, which I'm also doing later today at 5 o'clock Eastern, by the way, on Fox News Channel, in which I argued that we don't have a two-party system in this country.
00:02:03.000We have one party, one political party called the Big Government Party, the Republican branch The Democratic branch likes war and deficits and assaulting our civil liberties, and the Democratic branch likes wealth transfers and taxes and assaulting our commercial liberties.
00:02:23.000The heck with the Constitution, the heck with the Bill of Rights, the heck with inalienable rights, the heck with even the laws that we write, we know what's better for you than what you know is good for yourself and we will tell you how to obey or else.
00:02:38.000Cap and trade is one manifestation of that.
00:02:42.000Obamacare is another manifestation of it.
00:02:45.000I was furious last week when I saw that even the Republicans, even so-called conservative Republicans, not Ron Paul, but many in the Republican leadership in the House, introduced Obamacare Light, which basically presumes a federal role in healthcare, of which there is none under the Constitution.
00:03:07.000Tells insurance carriers you can't refuse to cover people because of pre-existing injuries.
00:03:13.000That's a very nice thing, but there's no power for the Congress to mandate it.
00:03:17.000That's got to come about by the free market.
00:03:20.000Bribes the states to change their court system.
00:03:23.000So they would basically go to the state of New Jersey and say, we'll repave the Garden State Parkway and the New Jersey Turnpike if you put caps on the limits that juries can award injuries against doctors and medical malpractice lawsuits.
00:03:37.000If you and I went to a state and said, I'll give you money if you change our laws, we'd be arrested for bribery.
00:03:43.000So this was all the same mindset of we in Washington can micromanage the private, free choices of individuals back home.
00:03:55.000And I condemned it, and I do so again today.
00:03:57.000Judge Andrew Napolitano is our guest today.
00:04:02.000Judge, what you're talking about and reading over the legislation, it's like Groundhog Day but on a bigger scale.
00:04:08.000It's Chicago or New York, big city, crime boss, A machine doling everything out.
00:04:16.000It's like with the takeover of General Motors.
00:04:19.000It even came out in congressional investigations, as you know, because you covered it, that people that gave money to Obama cronies or to the Democratic Party, they got to keep their dealership and got to keep their client list.
00:04:32.000But if you didn't, if you'd ever gone against them, Or hadn't paid the protection money, you lost your dealership, even though some of the dealerships were over 80 years old and made millions of dollars a year.
00:04:44.000And so now you have this Tenth Amendment destroying federal power coming in with these unelected panels.
00:04:52.000And it just goes on and on and on and on.
00:04:58.000I'm hearing some of the Republican leadership saying, oh no, it won't.
00:05:01.000They said it wouldn't pass the House in the last two weeks.
00:05:04.000Well, they did say it wouldn't pass the House, and it did pass by a two-vote margin.
00:05:09.000And, you know, you really can't tell with politicians, because the leadership will bribe them.
00:05:16.000Remember the first time TARP, the so-called Troubled Asset Relief Program, went through the House, it was defeated.
00:05:22.000I remember, I was on the Fox Business Network at the moment, fist in air, just emoting joy, shouting, the beast is dead.
00:05:34.000But I was naive because the leadership came back and bribed by, you know, we'll build a courthouse in your district, your friend wants to become a federal judge, he's got it, just vote for us on TARP.
00:05:44.000And eventually people changed their vote.
00:05:47.000I hear that the same thing will happen with respect to Obamacare.
00:05:50.000The government, the executive branch, the leadership in both parties, in both houses, will bribe those who are wavering and give them something else that they want in order to secure their vote.
00:06:03.000But you also raise a very important issue about the delegation of federal power to non-elected groups.
00:06:12.000This is what FDR did, and FDR is the model for President Barack Obama.
00:06:18.000FDR had over 500 groups throughout the country appointed by local politicians who decided what prices and wages were.
00:06:29.000There's a famous case in my home state of New Jersey where an Eastern European immigrant opened up a dry cleaning shop and the local wage and price group declared that you would charge 40 cents to clean and press a man's suit.
00:06:50.000Literally a nickel cheaper than what the unelected local board said he could charge.
00:06:55.000He was arrested by the FBI, he was indicted by a grand jury, he was put on trial in federal court in Newark, and he served a three-month prison term in a federal prison for charging five cents less than what the local board allowed him to.
00:07:11.000Now, transform that It's a modern day practice of medicine.
00:07:16.000You will have a board of bureaucrats, not even physicians, bureaucrats that will be between you and your physician.
00:07:26.000You will lose the freedom of choice because the bureaucratic board will give your physician a list of diagnostic tools that she or he can use to address your ailment and then a list of procedures and medicines that she or he can prescribe.
00:07:54.000People are really about to find out who these eugenicists are, who these control freaks are that inhabit the Democratic Party and to some extent the Republican Party.
00:08:03.000In the five minutes we've got left with Judge Andrew Napolitano joining us today in a very busy schedule, I want to shift gears now.
00:08:56.000When we fight a war, people will look the other way when their taxes are raised and when the government takes away their freedom, because they accept the illusion that by fighting the war, the government is somehow keeping them safe.
00:09:08.000Presidents love war because it lets them escape the confines of the Constitution.
00:09:14.000It lets them become a little bit of a prince.
00:09:16.000It even causes judges sometimes, if the president does something under the guise of war-making, to look the other way and defer to the executive branch.
00:09:25.000Fortunately, the Supreme Court did not do that under Bush years, under the Bush years.
00:09:30.000Every single time his war-making powers were challenged in the courts and made its way to the Supreme Court of the United States, he was zero and six before a Supreme Court that was appointed largely by Republicans.
00:09:46.000I don't want you to rely on the Supreme Court to save us because their lives are in your hands and you don't know which way they're going to go and because it takes too long for the issue to get to them and too much harm can happen between the time presidents wage war and the time their war powers are challenged in the courts.
00:10:02.000Were you surprised that Obama flip-flopped so strongly and went from being anti-patriot act to zealously defending it, wanting to expand it, and complete warrantless wiretapping, complete secret arrest, complete... I mean, he's going further than Bush on the police state.
00:10:20.000I didn't think it was possible either, and I was absolutely crushed when I heard it.
00:10:24.000He obviously was not my candidate of choice, but I took a little bit of internal intellectual solace in the fact that at least we were getting a president who would respect the Constitution.
00:10:38.000His disrespect for the Constitution may not be couched in as harsh and obvious and overt terms as in the Bush years, but it's just as bad, just as destructive, and just as willing to overlook specific restraints written in the Constitution to restrain the president as were many of his predecessors.
00:11:03.000I've talked to a lot of lawyers and judges, and I wanted to briefly see if you agree.
00:11:08.000Even though a lot of conservatives didn't like Obama, true paleo-conservatives, libertarian types like Ron Paul and yourself, because he is a constitutional lawyer and practiced it for 10 years as a professor, people expected that Obama would try to, at least on the surface, restore some of the Bill of Rights.
00:11:25.000But instead, you know, he's saying, Constitution?
00:11:31.000I too expected that he would show more respect for the Constitution.
00:11:35.000I read some of the lectures he gave at the University of Chicago Law School.
00:11:40.000I could have given some of those lectures myself when I taught Constitutional Law at Seton Hall Law School in Newark and at Delaware Law School in Wilmington, Delaware.
00:11:48.000But, you know, something happens when you don the mantle of power, and that something is a disdain for the restraint on your power, a disdain for the natural law, a respect that we have natural rights beyond which no government can go, a disdain for the Constitution itself, a disdain for our inalienable rights, same as natural rights, and a disdain for the Bill of Rights.
00:12:36.000Congratulations on your huge success as your star rises because you're the bonafide constitutionalist.
00:12:41.000We really, really appreciate you, Judge Andrew Napolitano.
00:12:45.000But in closing, I would like to get you to comment, A, on just how special George Washington and Andrew Jackson were.
00:12:55.000They got all this power and then did give it up.
00:12:57.000They wanted George Washington to be a king.
00:13:00.000These were amazing founding fathers we had, and what would they think of what's happening today where NOAA Satellite Information Service, the federal government, admits the coldest Winner so far in the last 50 years, the third coldest in the last hundred.
00:13:20.000Meanwhile, they're openly announcing that they're going to list carbon dioxide as a toxic waste and tax it when humans exhale it.
00:13:27.000Can you end with speaking about our founders compared to the material we've got in Washington today and what they would think of taxing what plants breathe?
00:13:37.000The founders tried to do two things with the Constitution.
00:13:42.000One was to create a federal government strong enough to protect us from invasion and to do national type things like run a post office and make sure that there is trade between the states.
00:13:52.000The other was to restrain the federal government so that it wouldn't interfere with our personal liberties.
00:13:57.000They specifically gave us a constitution that kept the federal government away from any type of relationship with individuals because they knew that the greatest threat to freedom comes not from your enemy on the outside who you can see and look at, But from the smiling face of the government on the inside, who claims that it's going to take care of you.
00:14:20.000And presidents like George Washington, whose closest advisor, Alexander Hamilton, wanted him to be king.
00:14:26.000And Andrew Jackson, who basically said to the Supreme Court, you know, they've gone ahead and made their federal bank, let them find the money and put the deposits in the federal bank.
00:14:38.000These were people who understood that there were natural limits on what government can do and written limits on what the federal government can do, and they stuck to those limits.
00:14:49.000The present government and its predecessors, you know, from Lincoln to Wilson to FDR to George W. Bush to Barack Obama, have so distorted out of proportion what the federal government is to do that the founders would not recognize it at all and would probably want to take up arms against it.
00:15:08.000What are you covering tonight and then we'll let you go.
00:15:10.000I hope you're going to be covering the health care and cap and trade because... That's exactly what we're talking about.
00:15:15.000We're talking about the state of the economy.
00:15:19.000We're talking about the government subpoenaing media entities wanting to know who earns how much money because they have to decide whose income taxes to audit next.
00:15:34.000Wait a minute, they're not just... The federal government is subpoenaing media people to... They're subpoenaing media companies to find out who earns what and what their social security numbers are.
00:15:45.000This is getting so bad, so quickly, far worse than any of us imagined.
00:15:51.000And the present president hasn't even celebrated his first year in office yet.
00:16:18.000It is scary to know that there's a real enemies list.
00:16:22.000And this is I mean, is this not illegal, Judge?
00:16:27.000Well, it's illegal for the president to compile a list of people who disagree with him on the basis of their political opinions and their outspoken words.
00:16:35.000That was specifically written into the privacy law in 1974, enacted and signed into law by President Ford shortly after President Nixon resigned.
00:16:45.000These are restraints that's expressly enacted to restrain the president.
00:16:50.000But this White House, just like it doesn't respect freedom of contract, just like it doesn't respect freedom of speech, just like it doesn't respect privacy, doesn't respect this either.
00:17:00.000Well, I tell you, it's scary and everybody should pray for the people that are on that list, myself included.
00:17:07.000Judge, what's the best website for people to visit to find out about all things Judge Napolitano?
00:17:12.000Well, they can go to foxnews.com, where my Freedom Watch appears, as do my monologues when I fill in for Glenn, as do many of my op-eds.
00:17:24.000And, Alex, I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed being on with you.
00:17:27.000I hope we get to do this a lot more in the future.
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00:22:03.000I don't like coming out and attacking Beck, because I know he's fooled a lot of people and it turns folks off, but I have to tell the truth.
00:22:10.000And if Beck will stop stabbing us in the back, and stop going sideways on issues, I'll support him!
00:22:17.000The issue here is the owner, Rupert Murdoch, admits that he's supporting the global carbon tax and is invested in it and has all of his movies and dramas and non-Fox News shows promoting it.
00:22:31.000In fact, call Paul Watson, because I couldn't find it this morning.
00:22:35.000He wrote an article about it two years ago.
00:22:38.000It has the Rupert Murdoch bragging, look at how I'm propagandizing, I'm proud of myself.
00:22:44.000It's the montage of Fox TV programs that Fox put out where they're promoting the global techs.
00:22:51.000You see, you won't hear Napolitano or these guys talk about that.
00:22:56.000Look, I'm not stupid, and I'm not going to get into any details, but I could certainly go, if I played my cards right, go join Team Fox, ladies and gentlemen.
00:23:06.000I wasn't ever offered a job by them, but I was offered jobs by people affiliated with them years ago.
00:23:15.000I'm going to fight the new world order.
00:23:17.000But I think we should recognize that Fox is beginning to be forced, because the audience has gone there, to speak out against world government.
00:23:28.000Because all these years, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage and all these guys said there's no new world order.
00:23:34.000Glenn Beck said there was no new world order.
00:23:37.000Now, it's openly being announced we're in a world government by the people that are pro-world government.
00:23:46.000And so they've got to bring somebody along, like Andrew Napolitano, who's been good the entire time, to not just keep their audience, but grow.
00:23:55.000Fox is growing their audience, while CNN, CNBC, all the rest of them are imploding.
00:24:21.000He's telling the truth when he's on Fox.
00:24:23.000We need to support people inside the mainstream media that are getting the truth out, while understanding the larger picture.
00:24:33.000Before we go to break and come back with Governor Jesse Ventura, I just want to finish making the point we must take over the system.
00:24:40.000We must get the power and then reestablish our constitutional republic as Many people have said, like G. Edward Griffin, who's in this film, Fall of the Republic.
00:24:55.000Fall of the Republic shatters the left-right paradigm, shows you how both sides are controlled, and shows people who the globalists are and what their master plan is.
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00:25:07.000Get it, make copies, give it to everyone you know, ladies and gentlemen.
00:26:59.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:27:04.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:27:10.000Well, we're into our number two simulcasting the syndicated radio transmission at PrisonPlanet.tv and Living Color.
00:27:17.000Joining us from Minnesota, he's about to travel down to Mexico to do some surfing, is former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura, of course a star of films like The Running Man, Predator, and many other films.
00:27:32.000He's hosted a MSNBC national television show.
00:28:25.000He appears in a couple of the episodes of Conspiracy Theory that we did.
00:28:29.000And so, because he's the only really reoccurring character we've ever had in the first initial bite, we went back to the old Starsky and Hutch show.
00:29:13.000I mean, tell us about some of the episodes.
00:29:15.000Well, first of all, when I went on Larry, it was because, you know, it was election night and Larry truly wanted my opinion on the latest off-year elections, which I'll do this right now.
00:29:28.000To me, why do we even have off-year elections?
00:29:30.000It's hard enough to get people out there to vote.
00:29:35.000They do that so that they get a small voter turnout because it's easier to control small numbers.
00:29:41.000And so that's why that happens pretty much.
00:29:43.000But that being said, that's why I was on Larry.
00:29:47.000It was mainly for the election stuff, not so much a promotion of the show, because I'll be going back on Larry later on the end of the month, right when it gets to the debut date, which, of course, is December 2nd on the True Channel at 10 Eastern, 9 Central.
00:30:02.000So I'll be going back on Larry then, and at that point in time, it'll be a promo for the show.
00:30:08.000So I just did Larry where they promoted a little bit, but it was mostly on voting or on the vote election.
00:30:18.000I want you to have free flow and go over as much as you can tell us about the episodes because I've consulted some but I still only have a few pieces of the overall puzzle and I know that you've stated that you believe this is fair and from our perspective probably the first television show ever that's actually from People who questions perspective.
00:30:37.000That doesn't mean that you or I or anybody buys all of what's being said out there.
00:30:41.000So I want to talk about that when we come back in just a minute.
00:30:43.000But in the one minute we've got, what is your take on Republicans sweeping all over the country and Obama's plunging approval rating?
00:30:52.000Well, I don't think it's so much Republicans sweeping.
00:30:56.000As you know, they lost that congressional race up in that heavily Republican district in New York that hadn't gone Democrat.
00:31:33.000When you have to make hard decisions, when you make those hard decisions, some people aren't going to like it, and a lot of people are one-issue people.
00:31:47.000Have you heard that millionaire, entrepreneur, businessman, your congressional candidate, and author Robert Beatles wrote a new book called Here's What You Do.
00:33:25.000And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
00:33:28.000Today, it seems like nobody does care.
00:33:30.000And right now, in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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00:36:56.000I know that the overall Congress, both parties, had an 11% when he left office, and it's now going back down that direction again.
00:37:03.000My point is, Obama's approval rating has broken records, according to the major pollsters, for falling the fastest in the first year of a new administration.
00:37:15.000CBS News last night reported he is putting in 40,000 more troops in Afghanistan.
00:37:21.000And Jesse, I know you've researched this and are well-read on this subject.
00:37:24.000Let's talk about this right now and then get into the show.
00:37:27.000There's 12 times the opium, 12 times coming out of Afghanistan, of what was coming out 8 years ago, and even the BBC admits our troops are guarding the opium so, quote, the Taliban doesn't get it.
00:37:40.000No, that's so the banks can launder $500 billion in smack every year.
00:37:44.000Governor Ventura, your take on this war?
00:37:46.000Well, to me, welcome in my lifetime now.
00:38:39.000And my point is, wars are the most destructive thing mankind can do.
00:38:47.000And when he engages in them, it has no benefit.
00:38:51.000It's like Herman Goering said, the best thing a farmer can get out of a war is to be able to come back on the same farm he left before the war started.
00:39:15.000I can't say I'm speechless because I'm bitching about it right now.
00:39:19.000But I cannot believe that people aren't protesting these wars.
00:39:23.000And now we're sending more troops in to accomplish what?
00:39:28.000The Russians couldn't win more and we're so stupid and our ego is so powerful that we think we can?
00:39:37.000Well, they can't win the state of objective to bring democracy and freedom to Afghanistan, but if the objective is to destabilize the region and have bases to menace Iran and China, and if the state of objective, you know, the real objective is to launder drug proceeds, then it's mission accomplished.
00:40:03.000If that's what they're accomplishing out of this, I can't prove that that's what they are or aren't doing at this time.
00:40:09.000But certainly from a base perspective of Jesse Ventura, American citizen, I don't understand how I benefit by these words one bit or any of the rest of us benefit by them one bit.
00:40:22.000Okay, here's an example, then we'll get into the TV show.
00:40:32.000A lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of money.
00:40:38.000But at the same time, it came out two weeks ago, New York Times, that Mohammed Karzai's brother is the head opium kingpin in Afghanistan, and that he is a CIA operative on CIA payroll, and that basically so is Mohammed Karzai, and that our troops are guarding his poppy fields.
00:40:57.000And I was driving down the road a few months ago and heard BBC report the same thing before the New York Times did, and I already knew that.
00:41:05.000But to hear them report that, oh, we guard the opium because if we don't guard it, another Taliban group will get it and then they'll get too much power.
00:41:13.000That's what they're telling the troops.
00:41:22.000We're now in Colombia putting bases in.
00:41:24.000Anywhere there's drugs, our troops are there to eradicate the other guy's drugs and protect the drug kingpins that launder their money through US and European banks.
00:41:36.000And add to that the fact that that's how the CIA gets their revenue so that they can then do operations that they can keep away from Congress.
00:41:47.000Because if they have to do operations that require them to get money from our tax money, then they have to be forward enough to let Congress know what they're doing with the money.
00:41:58.000But if they're getting money via illegal drugs and making all sorts of money out of that end of the world, they then don't have to declare any of that to Congress, and that's when they can do these dirty jobs that the American public will never know about.
00:42:15.000Governor Jesse Ventura, that is the nail on the head.
00:42:19.000I hadn't even thought to make that point.
00:42:21.000All those tens of billions in unaccountable money that these private... That's how they run their operations so that they don't have to be accountable to the Congress.
00:42:51.000And, you know, you're better well read on it than I am.
00:42:57.000Well no, I mean, you know as much or more than I do, you just brought up the key point that they're funding their black operations with this.
00:43:03.000Oh yeah, no, I've felt that and known that for a long, long time, that that's the simple way to do it.
00:43:09.000That's how you keep it out of the public eye.
00:43:12.000That's how you can get money to do political assassinations like in the old days when they used to attempt to kill Castro.
00:43:20.000If they do that, if they get money from Congress, then they have to submit reports and it has to be far more above board.
00:43:28.000But if they get the money from somewhere else, which can be dirty drug money, well then they can spend it on any operations they want to do and they don't have to be accountable to the American public or the Congress for it.
00:43:55.000I mean, I've seen the one promo clip where you went out to harp, and they threatened to arrest you, and then suddenly the equipment went dead.
00:44:03.000Let's go through the seven episodes and give people an idea of what's coming up.
00:44:06.000Well, hopefully I can remember them all.
00:44:09.000I'll tell you, it was so hectic shooting them that sometimes I had to jump from one episode to another episode.
00:44:18.000And that plays games with your mind because you're focused in on one thing and then, you know, the next half a day you might be doing something for a completely different episode.
00:44:31.000I would say my favorite one would be 9-11.
00:44:36.000Because I think 9-11 was the original one that I took to the two TV people to sell them on the show, and so it was personal to me because of my investigation of it so far.
00:44:48.000So I would have to say that that one is the most satisfying, although they all are, pretty much.
00:44:56.000The way that I'm going to explain it is quite simple, Alex.
00:44:59.000People can choose to believe the conspiracies or not, all seven of these, and they're all fairly modern day.
00:45:06.000The one thing True Channel wanted to do, we don't go back to Kennedy, we don't go back, they wanted to keep this first series within the last decade, pretty much.
00:45:16.000And you can choose to believe them or you can choose not to believe them, but I'll guarantee you this, if you watch the show, you're going to get scared.
00:45:26.000Even if they're not true, there is still the element that they may be, they might be, and they could be.
00:45:48.000I remember a few weeks ago, I ran into you and we were checking in at the hotel, and you walked up and you were shaking your head and you said, Alex.
00:45:55.000You were there with your son Tyrell, who's working on the show as well, doing a great job.
00:45:59.000You walked up and you said, Alex, when I go to bed at night, my head's spinning with all this information.
00:46:07.000We went into some places that you think is only fantasy land, but it could very well be reality land.
00:46:16.000It's stuff that people don't even think about, don't deal with in their daily lives.
00:46:21.000That's one of the main things is people People out there have to earn a living, they have to make a living for their families, so they haven't got time to go delving into the underhanded stuff that government might be doing.
00:46:33.000It's interesting, Alex, that we started this show with the concept that we were going to show both sides of the conspiracy and then allow the viewer to make a choice at the end of which one he or she would choose to believe.
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00:51:33.000Well, initially, Alex, we started off to do the show with the concept that both sides of the conspiracy would be told, if there were two sides.
00:51:41.000Many times there may be multiple sides.
00:51:45.000But the two major sides, and then we'd let the viewer decide.
00:51:48.000Well, then the show had to go through a metamorphosis, if you will, or an evolution, whatever you want to call it, because when one side does not cooperate one bit, it is pretty hard to tell their story.
00:52:00.000And that was the case of the United States government.
00:52:03.000I did an interview the other day, a print interview, and the person asked me and I said, well, you know, the government hasn't cooperated at all.
00:52:12.000And they said, this includes when Obama's taken over.
00:52:17.000I said it hasn't made one bit of difference, because we started the show, George Bush was still the president, and the show's been in the works, and I've been working on it for a year now, basically, or better.
00:52:28.000And the government cooperated nothing.
00:52:34.000We could not even get a spokesperson out for the government.
00:52:37.000Well, we do get a few former government people who are now no longer working for the government, who had courage enough to come out and talk to us and offer their opinions.
00:52:47.000But no one under the government would cooperate with this show at all.
00:52:51.000So then the show became simply more of the other side of the conspiracy being told, and now the viewer gets to see an alternative to what the government has pumped out in many occasions on the different conspiracies that they're involved with.
00:53:06.000And by the way, we've got Governor Jesse Ventura with us talking about the new TV show that's coming up in December and January called Conspiracy Theory on TruTV.
00:53:17.000How much can you tell us about the 9-11 episode?
00:53:20.000Because I know that more and more as you went out and tried to talk to them, no one would.
00:53:26.000And Jesse Ventura, Navy SEAL, Governor, you know, fighter, is a lot more intimidating and a lot more effective than when Michael Moore, and I'm not against Michael Moore, kind of ninnies around.
00:53:38.000I mean, this is some dynamic confrontations.
00:53:42.000In many ways, Michael Moore probably got more cooperation than I got.
00:53:52.000When it came to 9-11, no one from the government would talk to the show.
00:53:57.000No one from the 9-11 Commission would talk.
00:54:01.000No one representing any type of government agency would talk.
00:54:05.000You know, I don't want to wreck the show by saying what we did and where we did it and do all that because I want people to watch the show.
00:54:18.000And a victim pleaded with me, a victim who lost her daughter and her potential grandchild.
00:54:26.000Her daughter was pregnant and she died the day, the infamous day of 9-11.
00:54:32.000And her mom, you know, came to me feeling that I was the person with this show who could bring to light the fact that we need a real investigation of 9-11.
00:54:47.000Then when it's brought to me, the next person I want to talk to is someone who is there, someone who actually went through 9-11, which we were able to do also in the show.
00:54:58.000And then from there, the progression goes to someone who was there during the cleanup, the almost 300 days that it took to clean up the mess and what went on there.
00:55:26.000I'm not going to give specifics of the show, Alex, because I want everyone to enjoy the show, and I won't narrate it before it goes on the air.
00:55:36.000You're giving us a lot here, and I know a lot of the inside baseball, and obviously I'm sworn to secrecy.
00:55:42.000I'm just telling folks, I'm surprised you're able to get this on air, Jesse, because... Well, Alex, it ain't on yet.
00:55:53.000I made a gentleman's bet at the start of this show that it would never see air.
00:55:58.000I felt we would complete them all, but I felt strongly that at some point in time someone wouldn't allow it, and so far it's full steam ahead.
00:56:08.000Now we do have to wait until December 2nd because that's the airing again of the first show, In fact, I remember in October, you were in my car, we were driving around in the hill country, and you said, Alex, we're going to find out if this airs, because I'm going to do this from my perspective and be fair, we're going to see what happens.
00:56:32.000And you've put incredible work into it, and now you've just upped the bar again, saying we'll see if it's going to air.
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01:00:01.000former Minnesota governor, former MSNBC host, former top wrestler, Hollywood former MSNBC host, former top wrestler, Hollywood movie star, author, best-selling author, multiple times over, and surfer, Jesse Ventura joins The surf is up.
01:00:25.000I hear that there is a huge surf down at the Gulf right now.
01:00:28.000And every time I go down there, there's surfers everywhere.
01:00:31.000Well, I should be down there right now, doggone it.
01:00:33.000Why don't you just jump on an airplane, fly... Listen, you can fly to Corpus Christi in two hours from Minnesota, and three and a half, four hours from now, you could be on the beach in 12-foot swells.
01:00:46.000Well, I'll tell you, that's very tempting, but unfortunately, I've got too much publicity to do.
01:00:52.000Unfortunately, you're here on air with us, but we're all happy, Governor.
01:00:55.000Well, it'd be tomorrow anyway, and so I got publicity all day tomorrow.
01:00:59.000Today I couldn't get there in time, so it'd have to be tomorrow, but oh well, we'll pass on it this time.
01:01:04.000I'm certain there'll be more storms, especially after learning about HAARP.
01:01:10.000You know, I had the director of HAARP on one time, and he admitted, oh, we turned the atmosphere on fire with it at night.
01:01:16.000He starts laughing, and then somebody on the line cut the line off, and my producer saw this, and during the break, an Air Force officer came on and said, you can't talk about that anymore.
01:01:26.000So the military was bossing the civilian scientific head of HAARP around.
01:01:33.000Well, what's interesting, and of course for those that don't know what HAARP is, HAARP is way up in Alaska, and that's one of the shows we go up to visit and photograph it.
01:01:42.000And it's a group of about 180 radio antennas that all shoot 50,000 watts of energy up into the biosphere.
01:01:50.000I should say of low frequency sounds up into the biosphere, which does cause a heating.
01:02:05.000In fact, the scientists we've interviewed... This could be much more contributor of global warming than us driving our cars around.
01:02:14.000Well, as you know, Secretary of Defense Cohen in 97 admitted to the Army Times they did have weather weapons then, and I've interviewed the former father of weather weapons, Ben Livingston, and clearly I believe this is a false flag attack.
01:02:27.000We have had a lot of strange weather, and that naturally occurs, but there's been a lot of... Well, that's going to be, that's the opening show, Alex.
01:02:35.000The opening show, December 2nd, is on HAARP, and I think people are going to find it a very interesting show.
01:02:43.000I went all the way up to Alaska and went to this location and we jumped into a helicopter and bear this in mind, this thing can knock airplanes out of the air.
01:02:55.000And it's a very interesting thing going on up there.
01:03:01.000It's the government, it falls under, let me put it this way, it falls under the military, the Air Force.
01:03:07.000And yet it is given the distinction of being an unclassified research center, yet I was not allowed in.
01:03:15.000Now, bear in mind, I used to have a top-secret security clearance with the United States government during my six years as a member of underwater demolition team 12 and SEAL team 1.
01:03:27.000I was also a mayor and a governor, and yet I was not allowed to go into this supposed unclassified research center.
01:03:37.000If it's unclassified, anybody should be able to go in there.
01:05:20.000But I don't blame the governor under that bizarre stress.
01:05:23.000So, tell us what you can about the Harp episode, because this is amazing.
01:05:27.000Well, you know, we were denied access, as I said, and you know, even though the security clearances I've had in my life and holding the position of governor, I guess, Alex, the only way I guess I can get in there is to run and get re-elected to something again.
01:05:43.000You know, then maybe I would be high enough in the government that they would let me in and see what they're doing there, but that aside.
01:05:53.000Now, it made it seem—I don't know what caused our cameras to go bad.
01:05:58.000I am not going to specifically sit here and say that they jammed and that they did something to them.
01:06:04.000I will simply state that our audio and our visual did have some problems while we were outside the gate.
01:06:11.000Who or what was responsible, we never were sure of.
01:06:16.000We never were sure or positively found out.
01:06:19.000But to be specific, and correct me if I'm wrong, because I was just talking to some of the crew while we were shooting separately back in Los Angeles, they said that multiple cameras and audio and on the digital recordings, it was even distorting.
01:06:32.000I mean, this wasn't just one rig to have separate malfunctions, the same malfunctions.
01:06:39.000You're talking about one in a billion, one in a trillion?
01:07:31.000There were treaties signed back in the 1970s that governments would not use weather or nature for war.
01:07:41.000And we were one of the people that signed these treaties.
01:07:45.000And I think that's an important issue right here.
01:07:48.000If we sign treaties that we won't use things, won't use nature to commit war, and then we might very well be violating the very treaties we've signed.
01:08:00.000Well that's a great point and you made the point to me privately that, well Alex, why are we signing treaties for weather weapons if they don't exist?
01:08:12.000So, you know, and I think people are also going to enjoy, there's another part of HAARP that we haven't mentioned today that will be the most terrifying of anything we've talked about, and I'm going to leave that up in the air, because HAARP is going to be, to my knowledge, the first episode December 2nd, again, I'll shamelessly promote it 10 o'clock Eastern, 9 o'clock Central on the True Channel.
01:08:36.000HAARP will be the first episode, to my knowledge.
01:08:39.000If they change it, then I don't know about it.
01:08:41.000And there is something in HAARP beyond what we've even talked about, Alex, that is more terrifying than what we have talked about.
01:08:49.000And I know what it is, but I'm going to keep my mouth shut.
01:08:54.000You know, finishing up before we get into the other episodes, during the break we were talking, you're saying you made the bet with your crew, and I remember you telling me privately in the car, you said, we'll see if it's going to air.
01:09:09.000Well, I did a gentleman's bet with my crew and cast, basically.
01:09:13.000I said, I bet you no money involved, just a gentleman's bet.
01:09:18.000That we will complete all of these, we will do all seven episodes, and we'll finish them all, but I said I still don't believe they will see the light of day that they will be aired.
01:09:30.000And so far I'm losing the gentleman's bet, but there's still about three weeks to go, and I hope that I do lose it.
01:09:37.000I do not want, and I'm a competitive person, I do not like to lose anything, but I'm hoping that I lose this bet.
01:11:00.000And people need to understand, that's the scary thing, overwhelmingly scary thing about doing this whole show, is the fact that government doesn't have to cooperate.
01:11:22.000But in this country, I believe those roles have switched now.
01:11:26.000And the government views us working for them rather than the way it's supposed to be.
01:11:32.000Well, that's just an incredible point that things really are backwards now in this nation, in this country.
01:11:40.000And if they do allow this to go on television, which it looks like it's going to happen, is that that the system is so arrogant that they don't even care if we know the truth now?
01:11:50.000I'm seeing George Soros and Al Gore and Ban Ki-moon of the UN openly say we're going under world government, openly saying it's a new world order, openly stating it's about population reduction.
01:12:02.000One child policy, LA Times reports there's going to be a tax on owning a dog or cat because they eat meat, which has a carbon footprint.
01:12:11.000You've got the global warming episode, we're going to talk about that.
01:12:14.000I mean, they're really coming out in the open.
01:12:15.000So is it that they don't have total control of the media, and so you're getting through the chink in the armor?
01:12:22.000Or is it they're so arrogant now, they don't care if Governor Ventura goes out and tells you how screwed you are?
01:12:28.000They might even sit back and, you know, roast some marshmallows and laugh at us.
01:12:33.000I'm not in contact with any of these quote-unquote people, so I have no idea.
01:12:39.000Oh, by the way, yeah, global warming is the last one that I list to you of the—we do a—is global warming a conspiracy?
01:12:47.000That we were both here trying to remember all seven episodes and finally it came to me so I thought I'd shout it out.
01:12:53.000Well you got it right there because that was the seventh one that I like I said when I shot these things they were not in sequence always and so it can get pretty confusing.
01:13:03.000It was a lot like governing where you go from one meeting one hour to a completely different meeting the next hour.
01:13:09.000No, no, I know it makes your head spin, especially when you're really into the minutia.
01:13:14.000Let's get into 2012, then we'll get into secret societies, Manchurian Candidate, Big Brother, and global warming.
01:13:20.0002012, obviously three days from now, on Friday, the huge movie is coming out where Woody Harrelson kind of plays the conspiracy theory type.
01:13:32.000I know Harrelson, so we're trying to get him on the show.
01:13:36.000But what's your whole take on the real 2012 and the serious, in-depth research you did?
01:13:42.000And then separately in the show, I know you get into, without saying too much, whether it's real or not, the elite think it's real and they are getting ready.
01:13:51.000I mean, to me, I think, in fact, I wish I was in that episode.
01:13:55.000To me, that's going to be one of the hottest episodes.
01:13:58.000Well, it is, and let me just put it this way, and again, I'm not going to go in and make it so people won't watch by telling everything that happens, but it goes far beyond, let me say this, the Mayan calendar.
01:14:13.000Now, the Mayans were very intelligent people way ahead of their time when it came to understanding the planets and the solar system and the heavens.
01:14:23.000They truly were, because I've learned this.
01:14:26.000Even with all of our modern technology today, the Mayans are right on.
01:14:31.000Our technology, for the most part, cannot prove them wrong.
01:14:38.000So here you had a culture that took place many, many, many years ago that was very, very bright when it came to space.
01:14:47.000And this 2012 show goes beyond the Mayan calendar.
01:14:52.000It goes to some things that we know are actually real and completely backed up by NASA.
01:14:59.000And that's where I'll leave it right there, because I want people intrigued, I want them to watch the show, and the show will be on long before 2012 arrives.
01:15:09.000Are you, knowing what you now know, doing the deep research, are you concerned about 2012?
01:15:14.000I'm concerned, yeah, I'm concerned over things that I have learned, yes, I'm very concerned over them.
01:15:22.000And later on when the show is all air, Alex, and I don't have to try to intrigue a listening audience anymore, I'll be glad to come back on the show and openly talk about what concerns me after it airs.
01:16:57.000And the exciting thing that I'll tell people when people say to me, why do I like to study Why do I like to look at it?
01:17:04.000Because these are things that very well can be real.
01:17:08.000And when you read a writer like, say, Tom Clancy or Vince Flynn, they're marvelous books, but they're simply figments of their imagination.
01:17:17.000They're carrying you through on their imaginary trip.
01:17:22.000I would rather look into and read about real history and hopefully get educated on it so that we're not stupid enough to allow ourselves to repeat it, which over and over I see it happening.
01:17:36.000Our stupidity is just unbelievable how we can be duped over and over again.
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01:21:14.000Governor, one more time for people tuning in and getting this exclusive first look at the TV show that, believe me, is going to be powerful, folks.
01:21:22.000Tell them when the seven episodes are going to air, how they tune in, how they watch it.
01:21:28.000Well, it'll be on the True Network, which used to be Court Television.
01:21:32.000It's located, if you've got the satellite, I think it's right in between TBS and TNT.
01:21:39.000It's the station in between if you're on the direct dish satellite or whatever it is.
01:22:07.000So we focus on just certain portions of the conspiracy, which I think people will find it, especially your listening audience, Alex, are going to find it very interesting.
01:22:18.000And so it's going to be airing every Wednesday in December and January, or are they going to skip one on Christmas?
01:22:27.000I'll be gone surfing at that time, and I'll leave all of you up here to take the repercussions from it.
01:22:35.000What are you going to do if I come parachuting in when you're out there surfing?
01:22:39.000Well, then I'll know everything hit the fan up here, because I know that if you're not doing your daily radio show, then the United States don't exist anymore.
01:22:48.000Now, is my bunker ready next to your bungalow?
01:22:53.000You know, I'll tell you that my neighbor Fernando, he had to dig a 40-foot well down there and it took him six months, but it would have taken him a year had there been good waves.
01:23:23.000It's a legislation that's designed to make money, not solve the problem.
01:23:29.000And if global warming is indeed a problem, then why is the solution simply money-making that does nothing to address the actual problem?
01:23:39.000And that's the key of what we try to expose, and this is the cap-and-trade legislation for what it is.
01:23:45.000And the fact that there are 30,000 people with PhDs and science degrees that simply are not buying into global warming, and it doesn't seem to be that they get any type of Their opinion is not being aired at all.
01:24:02.000Well, yeah, when Al Gore says, all scientists agree it's man-made, and then you find out that actually the majority say it's driven by the sun and by nuclei from space causing cloud condensation.
01:24:14.000I mean, I'm not going to give away who you interview in the film, but this is going to be a powerful death blow.
01:24:21.000One more nail in the coffin against the Greenies that want to tax us.
01:24:24.000I mean, it's come out that Al Gore has made over a billion bucks so far off this.
01:24:28.000I mean, he owns a cap-and-trade company that you've got to buy carbon credits from.
01:25:02.000They can simply pay money and buy other people's and trade, so that until they get under, and they'll still pollute the same, but then they'll be able to say that they're not.
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01:27:03.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:27:10.000Alright, in this five minutes, we're going to get into Secret Societies, Manchurian Candidate, and Big Brother.
01:27:17.000The three episodes we haven't given you a little a teaser on it premieres december 2nd true tv tell everybody about it folks because i think this is going to be the not just ferris but leaning towards our view of any television show ever on mainstream tv i think this is a bellwether because the establishment's beginning to realize that they become obsolete by never discussing this information.
01:27:43.000So television's losing ratings and the internet's exploding.
01:27:46.000Governor Jesse Ventura, getting into Manchurian Candidate, Secret Society's big brother.
01:28:08.000So there's no gray area there that the government was in the business back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s of attempting to control people's minds and attempting to manipulate them and to use them to their advantage both militarily and whatever.
01:28:26.000Well, all indications are that those programs have been re-ramped up again and they're back on a high level again.
01:28:33.000And that being said, that's what the Manchurian candidate deals with, of course, and that we've all heard the story.
01:28:41.000One of the interesting things I'll say is that the guy who shot John Lennon fits it perfectly, Mark David Chapman.
01:28:49.000Because contrary to popular belief, Chapman was no Beatles fanatic.
01:28:55.000If you go back in his history, in fact, his favorite artist was Todd Rundgren, who's hardly a Beatle.
01:29:02.000When he shot Lennon, he had three ways to escape immediately.
01:29:07.000Central Park, down into the subways, and then just get lost with everybody.
01:29:11.000Instead, he stepped back in the shadows and started reading the book, The Catcher in the Rye.
01:29:48.000Well, I'll tell you, it's funny you should say that, Alex, because amazingly, when it first happened, scarily, that's the first thing that popped into my head.
01:29:56.000Unbelievable that you say that, because that's the exact first thing that popped into my head when I first heard about the Fort Hood shootings and when I started then reading about the whole situation, how the guy never had it in his background.
01:30:12.000And And then now the CIA and FBI are watching him and he has this fake history that suddenly began and then commanders and people said bust him and they wouldn't do it.
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01:34:58.000Governor Jesse Ventura, he's worn a lot of hats, but now he is fighting the new world order.
01:35:14.000And I don't want to put words in his mouth, but Governor, I think it's safe to say, I mean, you now know there's a world government, there is an elite.
01:35:25.000Is it fair to say that you're now officially, not their label of conspiracy theorist, but you question JFK, you question 9-11, you question HAARP, you're not buying the Kool-Aid they're selling.
01:35:41.000Irregardless of anything, it sure is interesting stuff.
01:35:46.000And, uh, you know, we do a show on the Bilderbergs and I do understand that they're real.
01:35:52.000I guess the thing that upsets me the most was I made it to governor and they never invited me.
01:35:59.000And I guess maybe I gotta run for office again then so I can get invited to this thing to find out what the hell goes on inside there.
01:36:08.000Well, they would have invited you if you would have gone along with the CIA when they set you down at the governor's office two weeks into office.
01:36:15.000But, I mean, you're not selling people out.
01:36:18.000You're a swashbuckling, you know, loose cannon for freedom.
01:36:22.000But, I mean, what is your view on the New World Order then?
01:36:25.000Because I know you're anti-establishment.
01:36:40.000You know, when you look at it, that we will evolve, and that maybe it won't fully be here in our lifetimes, but a hundred years from now, because of the fact with technology the way it is, the world gets smaller and smaller and smaller.
01:36:55.000And I guess, let me, just for the sake of argument, state that there would be one good thing if there was a one world government.
01:37:22.000But I am saying that there is the chance that this could be almost an evolutionary thing, that we will evolve to the point where there may well be a one-world government and there may be no way around it.
01:37:36.000Then the important thing, Alex, is what will that government be?
01:37:41.000Well, that's the issue here, is that they always pitch it that we were hunter-gatherers, we were agrarian, we formed villages, then city-states, then nations, then empires, and the next phase is Star Trek, that we've been implanted with psychologically, the image of the global galactic empire, and we're always fighting green aliens, you know, the Klingons, so we've got to do this.
01:38:01.000The issue is, they built this world government in stealth, and denied that it existed.
01:38:09.000Until it was too late to really stop it.
01:38:12.000And now they're coming out going, yeah, we're going to tax everything you do.
01:38:15.000We're not going to let you have more than one kid.
01:38:17.000And yeah, we want to carry out eugenics on you, and we're going to carbon tax you.
01:38:21.000And Ban Ki-moon writes editorials saying the carbon tax is for the New World Order, and it's for a bunch of corrupt CEOs and bankers to play emperor.
01:38:30.000And so if the people of the world ever wanted to create a world government and it was democratic and under the republic system, then that would be one thing.
01:38:39.000But this thing was created by a corrupt group of criminals and it's a world tyranny.
01:38:44.000That's why every ounce of my body and being, just like Thomas Jefferson said, I swear eternal resistance to all forms of tyranny over the minds of men.
01:38:56.000And Jesse, I know you, I mean, don't you swear?
01:39:00.000Alex, I wholeheartedly agree with you.
01:39:02.000I'm not going to dispute anything you've said.
01:39:06.000But the point is, and you're correct, if it was so good, why would they do it in secret?
01:39:12.000And that's a very, very valid point to make.
01:39:16.000But the point we have to make, if it's inevitable that we're going to come under one world rule, then we the people have to ensure that we're players in the game, that we have dogs in the fight.
01:39:29.000But I don't want to be under the Communist Chinese.
01:39:31.000Alex is making sure we got a dog in the fight.
01:40:57.000But, but, a plug right here in the middle of this conversation.
01:41:01.000I'm going to mail you, I've forgotten to mail you, Fall of the Republic, because this details from the globalist's own statements that they are setting up a tyrannical world government, that they engineered the banking crisis by...
01:41:12.000The crisis by design and that they are setting up a citizen spy force police state system.
01:41:18.000So I hope all the listeners will get a copy of Follow the Republic at InfoWars.com and the online video bookstore and support what we're doing here, but also show it to everyone you know, because this film exposes the wider agenda.
01:41:30.000And Alex, let me shamelessly add in, please watch my television show, because if we get such an overwhelming audience response, it'll force them to buy it up for another deal, and we'll be able to get that much farther into it then.
01:41:45.000And then, like the X-Files, I get the spinoff like the lone gunman.
01:41:50.000Okay, now we're getting into real inside baseball.
01:41:53.000Look, this show is important, and I want everybody to tell their friends and family and neighbors, True TV, December 2nd, airing every Wednesday.
01:42:01.000Absolutely important, because this show is definitely from our perspective.
01:42:06.000Okay, I want to go to some calls, but we've got to finish up with the last point.
01:42:09.000We just hit Manchurian Canada, Secret Societies.
01:42:15.000Well, Big Brother is just simply that.
01:42:18.000Big Brother, are they watching over you?
01:42:20.000And I think in our show, you're going to hear clearly that they are and that clearly it's going to come from a place where the government is able to do it and work around the Constitution.
01:42:36.000We have found that out, and we will air that on the show to where you will clearly see how the government has looped the Constitution in which establishing Big Brother on you.
01:44:53.000Yeah, but I know the TV shows you turn down.
01:44:56.000I mean, I don't know if you want to say it, but you're turning down something with 30 million viewers coming up in a few weeks because you want to be out of the country.
01:45:02.000I'm just really honored you came because I know you're turning down a bunch of really huge media interviews, but doing our show, so we appreciate it.
01:45:10.000And like I said, you know, you're a wealth of information, Alex, that we can always rely upon, and you know, so doing your show is just simply the left hand washing the right hand.
01:45:23.000Well, folks, we're going to post this interview up at InfoWars.com.
01:45:26.000Over 200,000 people a day get the free podcast.
01:45:33.000Because if this show can be a big success, the system may start letting more of this on the air as the internet culture takes over the mainstream media.
01:46:16.000I gave up watching TV a long, long time ago because I didn't like being treated like I was stupid.
01:46:22.000And it sounds like you've got a really good show, and I'd like to know if there's any plans to put it on the web or somehow that I'll be able to watch it without having to... I don't know at this time, but then again, I'm not a good web person to talk to, but I certainly will inquire to find out what the options are about doing it over the web or whatever.
01:47:19.000I just want to say I hope this wakes up the American people and I praise you for doing that.
01:47:25.000I wanted to answer a quick question and then make a quick comment.
01:47:29.000Representative Mike Pence from Indiana, Republican, the other day I was watching the health voting on C-SPAN and he said, and I wrote it down because I was freaked out by it, he said, it seems a few elite in a far distant country can run our lives for us.
01:47:47.000And I, you know, immediately I thought of Build-A-Burger, not that, and I was going to ask you, which I think you've already answered, were you going to do a show on the Build-A-Burgers and the secret societies?
01:48:13.000Well, there's certainly that possibility, and yes, we definitely do a show on the Build-A-Burgers, which I was happily kind of, I knew of them, but I didn't know as much about them.
01:48:23.000And here's the interesting little sidebar for it.
01:48:26.000We have a... Governor, are you still there?
01:50:01.000You know, what I was going to add was that just a simple sidelight to the show and then I got to run.
01:50:10.000We were interviewing a gentleman on the Bilderberg episode, and he had to travel from Europe to do the interview with me in New York, and we had to delay it a day, because when he went to the airport, he was on the no-fly list.
01:50:43.000And now they're saying if you have bad credit, you'll be on the no-fly list.
01:50:46.000Or if you're on the no-fly list, you won't be able to buy a gun.
01:50:49.000So you're not convicted of a felony or a misdemeanor or a parking ticket, Governor, but then you lose your rights.
01:50:54.000Isn't that 180 degrees the opposite from our republic form of government?
01:50:59.000I would like to think so, and as I said earlier, Alex, it's just the case of the big brother, and in this case it was dealing with the Bilderbergs that we had this particular guy we were going to interview, and he was coming from a foreign country to here, and he was on the no-fly list over there.
01:51:18.000And, to my knowledge, he's not a terrorist, so, you know, it's interesting how they'll disrupt people's lives by putting him on this no-fly list if you simply are of, say, a different political persuasion or whatever it might be.
01:51:32.000Well, Governor, you've got to get to a meeting in downtown Minneapolis, so we've only got four more minutes left with you.
01:52:01.000If you look at the ShakeMap in Sichuan, when the earthquake happened with a rainbow over China on May 20, 2008, the ShakeMap is the exact same shape as the HAARP weapon.
01:52:15.000That's point number one, and then I'll get to point number two.
01:52:57.000Well, and the other thing is, too, is that how do you do it?
01:53:01.000It's like when I was the third party candidate in Minnesota, I tried to bring all the third parties together so we could consolidate and become a force against the other two parties.
01:53:11.000I got news for you, it's like herding cats.
01:53:15.000And I couldn't even bring them together on an issue that we all agreed upon, and that was campaign finance.
01:53:21.000None of us, none of us took dirty money.
01:53:24.000And it just fractured like nothing and so I just threw my hands up in the air and I said it may be impossible, but I think Alex makes a great point that they can't stop us all if we're all coming at them from different directions.
01:54:04.000Maybe you could look into the patent issue where people, individuals developing free energy and anti-gravity technology that the government then deems a national security risk.
01:54:16.000You know, Jesse, that's a great idea if it gets picked up for another season, is look at Cold Fusion.
01:54:22.000We'll take that into consideration, but we've got to get picked up first.
01:54:42.000They collect all our information, all communications and stored Watch my show on his big brother watching and all that, and you'll learn how they get away with it and how they loop the Constitution to do it.
01:55:26.000I am psychologically speechless a lot of times.
01:55:29.000I can still babble some words out, but it's hard to articulate.
01:55:33.000The NSA says they're taking over the whole internet.
01:55:35.000They may shut it down during crises like bird flu or swine flu.
01:55:39.000The NSA is going to intercept all internet traffic.
01:55:42.000They're building NSA centers in San Antonio and New York and Florida and Minnesota and California and just admitting They're reading everything we're doing.
01:55:51.000So they go from, we're not spying on Al-Qaeda, to we are spying on Al-Qaeda, to we're spying on you, and we don't need those stinking warrants.
01:56:13.000You can't sit back and have government tell you they're going to protect you, but in lieu of that protection, you're going to give up your freedoms.
01:56:20.000You are better off to be in danger from terrorists than you are to lose your freedoms.
01:56:26.000Don't let them take your freedoms and always remember dissension is the greatest form of patriotism.
01:56:32.000Governor Jesse Ventura, amazing having you on.
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02:00:00.000They've been at the Codex Alimentarius UN global government takeover of your vitamins and food meeting.
02:00:06.000The globalists are moving on every front taking over right now.
02:00:09.000Was that not an incredible Jesse Ventura interview in the last hour and a half?
02:00:15.000We put some traces on the phone lines for the phone company because we're only dropping big guests and our phone system creates a certain blip when the phones drop but we can check the phone logs from here and we put a trace in with the phone company.
02:00:33.000Our phone lines are being dropped in between us in Washington Our office in Minnesota and it's only with big guests.
02:00:41.000This is not happening with other regular phone lines we have.
02:00:44.000These are regular phone lines and we have internet phone lines.
02:00:48.000And I don't want to say it's a conspiracy theory.
02:00:51.000Though we have been officially hacked many times or attempted to be hacked.
02:00:54.000And we have found big hacking sites saying they're going to hack us again because we don't like Obama.
02:01:01.000We're fascists because we don't like expanding the wars.
02:01:07.000Those are government operatives posing as if they're hackers because we've had top hackers give us the documentation on this.
02:01:14.000We've got the Pentagon directing denial of service attacks, a bunch of other types of attacks against us.
02:01:22.000The last big one was when we were exposing that The flu was a fraud and part of a larger drill and that they had prepared all this back in January when we told you they were getting ready for a staged flu hysteria.
02:01:36.000We said we don't know if it's a hoax or whether it's going to be real but in January and February I said they're going to stage something big this year and we had city managers and emergency managers on and got secret documents on air for you and it all came true.
02:03:55.000And the reason they haven't killed me, and the reason they don't do a lot of stuff to me anymore, they still do some things, is because they know I don't care.
02:04:02.000I mean, I care, but what am I going to do?
02:04:04.000It's kind of like once you jump out of an airplane with a parachute.
02:04:38.000And I do want to say to the globalists, I know they've calculated all the angles and they think I'm buffoonish and that I discredit at certain levels, but now they figured out that's not really the case.
02:04:48.000And I do feel the wings of death flapping above my head and they're beginning to really analyze my true operation.
02:04:56.000But we're a little farther down the line now, aren't we, globalists?
02:05:03.000To where my information is out there and if you kill me, it's going to highlight, it's going to underline everything I've said and done.
02:05:11.000And so you're going to destroy me in the media.
02:05:13.000The problem is the media is so discredited that if you tell a bunch of lies about me, anybody who can think automatically supports me.
02:05:23.000I mean, yes, you've got buffoons fooled, you've got idiots fooled, you've got morons fooled, But anyone who can think, even if they disagree with me on some issues, Lord knows I make mistakes and I'm aggressive and bombastic and arrogant sometimes, but people who've got discernment and who've been around the world, they know I'm for real.
02:05:43.000They know even if I wasn't a good person and it wasn't for real, I'm waking a lot of people up.
02:05:48.000I mean, if I work for the government, man, This is the worst money they ever spent because we're hurting them, folks.
02:06:39.000And that's why, you know, I thought about the magnitude of this last week.
02:06:43.000I thought, I haven't made a bigger deal over the fact that we can track the IP addresses of commenters and that these are coming from military bases and are government operatives.
02:06:55.000Many cases they put their handles up there.
02:06:58.000You can go to their MySpace or Facebook and they admit they're in psyops.
02:07:10.000And then I think about how many white supremacists have been caught in federal court, the Southern Priory Law Center, Hal Turner, all of them, that attack me, and then it turns out they're feds staging stuff.
02:07:24.000Hal Turner, I told you six, seven years ago that guy was a fed.
02:07:28.000As if you couldn't take one micron Do we have our guest?
02:07:38.000As if one micron of discernment wouldn't know he was a Fed.
02:07:43.000And then it comes out, he's attacking me, I'm his main target, that I work for Israel, and I'm bad, and I'm all this stuff, and everybody, if they really want to be a true blue American, has to hate Jews and obsess on that all day.
02:07:55.000Even if you believed that, when you go out and preach that, it destroys all your other arguments.
02:08:01.000I don't want cap-and-trade, but I hate Jews.
02:08:03.000Oh, I don't want socialist healthcare.
02:08:54.000The point here is I just realized that it's on record that all these top white supremacists get busted, get caught in federal court being federal informants or agents, They get caught in court cases and lawsuits and then admit when they kill their wife or beat up their neighbor or get in trouble, there's a whole bunch of them, or threaten the wrong state judge and get arrested.
02:09:21.000They then come out and say, I'm a Fed, I'm a Fed, and then Feds come in and go, well, he does work for us.
02:09:27.000Why would the Feds have all these different organizations and groups?
02:09:33.000Attacking me as working for Israel, or working for the Vatican, or working for this or that, and then it comes out they are feds.
02:09:42.000See, the feds want us all fighting with each other.
02:09:48.000Alright, we've got Major General Stubblebine and Dr. Rima Labo coming up with the balance of the radio show today with part two of their amazing interview with us last week.
02:09:55.000They can report on the conclusion of what happened at the Codex Alimentarius in Europe.
02:10:02.000And so much more coming up in T-minus five minutes.
02:10:43.000Well, I hope so, Alex, because China and also India are trying to shore up their currencies with the amount of gold that they used to use, you know, to have against their currencies.
02:10:53.000That'll push gold up to $1,300 an ounce if that happens.
02:10:56.000If the United States decides to get its currency shored up with gold, we're going to be as high as $2,700 an ounce, just to go back to 71 level.
02:11:05.000You know, that's what we're looking at right here.
02:11:07.000Gold right now is sitting at $1,105 an ounce.
02:11:10.000I still have the francs currently, right now, presently at the price of $246.
02:11:12.000I still have the francs currently right now presently at the price of $246.
02:11:54.000And when you hear even Clark Howard, the economic guru, saying, OK, go ahead and get into gold, when you hear all the national shows saying $2,000 an ounce, that it's guaranteed, I'm not saying that.
02:12:06.000It's guaranteed gold has real intrinsic value.
02:12:09.000I believe it's going to keep going up in the next few years because the dollar, they've decided to devalue it and kill it.
02:12:15.000But it certainly is crazy at this point to not get into gold and silver, especially when you can get in a time machine and go back and buy it cheaper than it is now, because Ted is smart and buys in the dips.
02:13:20.000When they call, whether it's the bags of junk silver, or whether it's a maple leaf, or whether it's an American Eagle, or whether it's a buffalo, you've got a lot of stuff in right now.
02:13:30.000You tell them it's the Alex Jones special, and what type of discount do you get?
02:13:33.000Or is the Alex Jones special just on the francs, the sovereigns, and the silver half dollars?
02:13:39.000There are some coins that we're carrying right now that if you don't mention that you've heard it on the Alex Jones special, you could pay as much as $200 an ounce more.
02:13:48.000I mean, that's the materials that I'm putting aside.
02:13:50.000I mean, specifically, I told my sales staff That this is for this particular offer.
02:14:00.000So this is a blanket discount, but to focus in on that specific discount, because people are always calling me and trying to get me to explain it, and I have the internal sheets where it say it's a quarter ounce gold coin, and it was $224, and I would see your $4 or $5 markup.
02:14:12.000$224,000, and I would see your $4 or $5 markup.
02:14:55.000As we add more liability to our government coffer, the federal printing press just turns on full speed.
02:15:02.000And what do you think's going to happen to the dollars we earned if we have to compete with money that's being created from nothing?
02:15:07.000Well, Chad, that's the point I'm trying to make, is that as the general public, because before, what, 3, 4, 5% maybe of the public physically held silver and gold?
02:15:17.000Now they're saying it's getting up to 6, 7, 8% and the price is exploding.
02:15:21.000As the yuppies find out, That the stock market's going up and gold's going up because devalued dollars are chasing it.
02:15:54.000And so at least in the short term, gold is a win-win-win-win-win.
02:15:59.000The markets are so manipulated that it may hold for a while coming up here in the next few months, but then in the next year may rocket past $2,000.
02:16:09.000The point is, ladies and gentlemen, there's not a better investment any way you slice it than silver and gold if you get a good deal on it.
02:16:28.000There's risk if you drive your car, you can get run over today.
02:16:31.000The point is, the risks are a lot less, in my opinion, common sense opinion, in gold and silver than they are in the stinking stock market or in real estate or anything else.
02:16:40.000Folks, what do kings and queens and pirates and criminals, what do they have?
02:16:46.000The people that know, that are street smart, they have gold.
02:18:48.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
02:18:52.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
02:18:55.000As we're finishing off this agenda, That we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
02:19:00.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
02:19:06.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
02:19:11.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
02:19:30.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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02:22:00.000You talked about Codex, and I want to remind your listeners that the Codex Elementarius is a UN Commission, which is run and funded by WHO, Not Your Friends, and the Food and Agriculture Organization, FAO, and the Food and Agriculture Organization, FAO, another not-person-friendly organization that we in the United States know much less about than we do WHO.
02:22:26.000I want to remind you that WHO is using a two-pronged genocidal tool.
02:22:36.000One prong is the degradation of the world's food supply and the mandating of undernutrition, which they admit is the principal cause of what they call the non-communicable, which they admit is the principal cause of what they call the non-communicable, preventable diseases of undernutrition, cancer, cardiovascular disease, stroke,
02:23:02.000These five diseases alone are not only the five principal moneymakers for big pharma.
02:23:10.000And of course, we have to add vaccines in there as another principal moneymaker big time.
02:23:16.000But in addition to that, they are the principal killers in the developing, out of the developing world.
02:23:23.000So if you mandate undernutrition, and then sanctimoniously say, well, it's undernutrition that causes these diseases, isn't that too bad?
02:23:33.000You are definitely talking out of both sides of your genocidal mouth.
02:23:53.000I didn't bring this up to you, Dr. Labo.
02:23:55.000Last week, it actually came out in UN documents where they discussed in the 60s.
02:24:00.000In fact, we need to get that pulled back up.
02:24:02.000They discussed using vaccines as the delivery system of cancer and sterilization.
02:24:09.000So, I mean, as you said, they've been caught by high courts in India, the Philippines, in Africa.
02:24:15.000I mean, this is really starting to get out.
02:24:18.000That's right, and it's very important for your listeners and the people that your listeners talk to, and for the people who go to our website, healthfreedomusa.org, to understand that these sacred cow organizations, the U.S.
02:24:35.000government, WHO, the U.N., and the pharmaceutical industry, are held aloft by propaganda.
02:24:43.000When you investigate the facts, as you do, as we do, Alex, What you come up with is a horrifying, breathtaking, mind-numbing evil.
02:24:56.000Now, when I say that there are interlinked genocidal tools, you have to understand, of course, that the immune system is the common pathway for both of their weapons.
02:25:11.000The immune system is damaged and destroyed by their vaccine, as well as directly inducing sterility.
02:25:19.000And the immune system is damaged by their degraded food.
02:26:44.000We're talking about Endgame, a pharmacological,
02:27:04.000military-industrial complex grid of control, a scientific dictatorship, a planetary dictatorship to carry out the orderly extermination of the majority of the world population.
02:27:18.000Now, from UN documents, I made this film three years ago, Endgame, documenting it all.
02:27:23.000Now we have the White House Science Czar's own book As if I wrote it, but from their perspective.
02:27:30.000Or as if General Stubblebine wrote it, but from their perspective.
02:27:38.000Because we can look at what they're doing and tell you what their operation is, but to have their signed, sealed confessions...
02:27:46.000And then to not see them arrested, to not see this stopping, it's incredible.
02:27:50.000Dr. Rima Labo, medical doctor, she's treated heads of state, her husband, they're partners in fighting crime, Major General Stubblebine, they're both here with us and we're going to go back to Dr. Labo here in a minute.
02:28:04.000They joined us via speakerphone because we can't get through the regular line in Central America right now, so we're on their backup line.
02:28:14.000Knowing about John P. Holdren's publications and the internal government documents that are now public, where the plan to carry out this extermination is just admitted, is it the weight of the system, its own inertia, that they don't get in trouble, or kind of like Hitler couldn't get in trouble until we finally removed him?
02:28:39.000I think that, you know, they are In some way, are of the opinion that they've got to publish what they're going to do so that it makes it all right when they actually do it.
02:28:52.000There's another piece, too, and that is, if you're going to have a program that's as complicated as this one, then you must have a manual by which you go by.
02:29:07.000You know that every item It's a military.
02:29:51.000And it is pushback that has saved us so far.
02:29:55.000I want to mention something that may seem a little bit unrelated, but it's actually a good example of pushback.
02:30:01.000The National Organic Standards Board of the United States Department of Agriculture, It was a good idea when it was started in the 90s, but it has become, like everything else in the federal government, like the FDA, the Fraud and Death Administration, and the CDC, the Centers for Disease Creation, they have become the tools of the industries that they were designed to regulate.
02:30:27.000The same is true of the National Organic Standards Board, which now allows more than 10% GMO contamination Okay.
02:30:36.000in your organic food, it allows organic hops in your organic beer, but in addition to, I'm sorry, it allows GMO hops in your organic beer.
02:30:47.000But one thing that happened, because it's a huge public outcry today, is that the National Organic Standards Board was forced to apply organic standards to body care products as well as food products.
02:31:04.000They named by name Amazon Organics, Avalon Organics, Desert Essence Organics, Giovanni Organic Cosmetics, Jason Pure Natural and Organic Cosmetics.
02:31:18.000Yeah, so they're taking over the certifiers of organics so they can mislabel them.
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02:34:53.000Okay, we are trying different connections to get better audio with General Stubblebine, Major General Stubblebine, we are trying different connections to get better audio with General Stubblebine, Major General Stubblebine, and Dr.
02:35:15.000Joining us from Health Freedom USA down in Panama, and she's going over organics, victories we've had.
02:35:23.000First we had a victory In pushback, 10 years ago, you couldn't find organic food on store shelves.
02:35:29.000Now, half of it in many cities became organic.
02:35:32.000It funded local farms, funded organics.
02:35:36.000But the establishment came in, took over the organic certification groups, many of them, and began certifying, and I'm simplifying this, There's a lot of different techniques they used, certifying things that were GMO, that were genetically modified as organic.
02:35:51.000But she's saying there's been a victory there.
02:35:53.000Then we'll get into the latest on flu and a lot more.
02:35:56.000But before we go there, I want to finish my question to General Stubblebine and to Dr. Labo.
02:36:01.000You're a medical doctor and a psychiatrist, Dr. Labo, and General Stubblebine's commanded hundreds of thousands of troops and generals and many others, and he understands psychology.
02:36:24.000Was commissioned by the CFR and other organizations as a briefing manual for high-level CIA and State Department, not meant for public distribution.
02:36:35.000And they admit these are manuals, but that something else General Stubblevine said I wanted to comment on, and then Dr. Labo, with her psychiatry background, understanding this.
02:36:46.000Why do these people have a compulsion to tell you what they're going to do publicly, but You know, in a small way, they whisper under their breath.
02:36:57.000It's like the old tales of vampires and the fables having to trick you to invite them in.
02:37:03.000Why do they always tell you what they're going to do?
02:37:09.000Why first General Stubblebine and then Dr. Labo?
02:37:15.000It seems to me that it's almost, and I have no evidence of this other than Watching it over and over and over again, but it's almost like they have a manual that says in order to do what we're going to do to these people, we got to tell them what we're going to do before we do it.
02:38:16.000You were there because you guys are really pushing back.
02:38:19.000I mean, you are leaders actually taking action.
02:38:21.000But commenting on that question to General Stubblebine, as a psychiatrist, why are they obsessed with telling you what they're going to do?
02:38:30.000But then if you say, I don't want that, they say, oh, this book doesn't exist.
02:38:38.000Uh, does anybody remember Son of Sam, who was cutting newspapers apart and magazines and pasted together messages like, stop me before I kill, after he had killed and before he killed a lot more people?
02:38:58.000Uh, a need to be recognized that's very deep in the human psyche, no matter how evil and perverted the human psyche is.
02:39:06.000And so, criminals, uh, police, uh, detectives know perfectly well that criminals get caught because they leave clues saying, recognize me, recognize me, even though they may not consciously want to be caught.
02:39:20.000And in fact, I believe that this may be the last remnant of humanity in psychopaths so insane that they can, and I'm saying insane as a trained psychiatrist, so insane that they can comfortably and laughingly contemplate with great smugness the genocidal extermination of virtually
02:39:47.000Everybody who doesn't personally serve them or their cohort.
02:39:56.000Understand, there's nothing normal about it.
02:39:59.000And so I believe that the reason they have this rule, which it appears that they do have, is because it serves their last shred of humanity.
02:40:23.000And I want to point out that what's happening and what's being shared on the internet is the revelation of what we predicted and what you predicted, Alex, which is that the swine flu vaccines are in themselves causing miscarriages and horrific neurological
02:40:43.000Okay, we're going to go over that right now and I'm going to sit back and give you both the floor to go over your lawsuit, victories we're having, but also the carnage being created by the vaccines that was predicted because of the medical evidence.
02:40:56.000But I want to go back to the nature of our enemy.
02:40:58.000I think there's one more reason that in white papers that they publish, they admit their entire plan And then disdainfully tell the general public none of it exists.
02:41:09.000While Ban Ki-moon admits world government, carbon tax to enslave us, and then other publications owned by George Soros say it doesn't exist, while he goes on Laird NewsHour and calls for world government and carbon tax to fund it, his publications, all six of them, attack Alex Jones and say I'm crazy, none of it exists.
02:41:30.000I will explain why this is happening, and I want General Stubblebine and then you, Dr. Labo, to comment on this.
02:41:35.000Then we'll go over your evidence and then take calls.
02:41:37.000But, they're also doing this to multiple audiences.
02:41:42.000To the dumbed down, easily suggestible, cowardly people who want to buy a lie, who want to lay down, who want to be slaves, they just don't want to hear about it.
02:41:54.000But then to those of us that they know are not wicked and do have empathy and are tuned into our center and do love people and love creation, it's a threat.
02:42:03.000Yeah, we're going to kill you and there's nothing these dumb slaves are going to do.
02:43:25.000That needs to be intimidated and needs to be controlled.
02:43:29.000And so if we publish all of this and we tell them, they can say, oh, well, you better pay attention, young man.
02:43:40.000If you don't, you're going to be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:43:44.000So I believe that there is a pounding of chest, a patting themselves on the back and Letting us know what is coming down the pike is not going to be good for us.
02:43:59.000You better shut up, sit down, and just take it.
02:44:04.000Well, you know Alex, what you were saying and what I was saying are the same thing.
02:44:09.000This kind of arrogant hilarity, feverish hilarity you might say, in these pronouncements and then the denials, is very much both an aggressive demonstration of their power and at the same time you can see it as this need to be recognized and an intimidation, but then again, Our behavior as human beings is usually motivated by many things at the same time.
02:44:39.000It's several things moving us in the same direction.
02:44:42.000Whatever it is, thank goodness that they feel the need to reveal their plans first, so those of us who are awake and trumpeting can let people know what's going on.
02:44:53.000And while we have the internet, We have the power to awaken and people have the power to make change.
02:45:02.000The Natural Solutions Foundation has a lawsuit that had a hearing on Thursday, November 5th, which was after we spoke from the Codex meeting.
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02:51:09.000Joining us from Panama, General Albert N. Stubblebine III, Dr. Rima E. Lebo, their husband and wife.
02:51:17.000They travel all over the world fighting the globalist agenda.
02:51:19.000They have done so much great work and I wanted to have a backup this week.
02:51:22.000We're going to take some of your phone calls coming up the next segment specifically for them on the vaccines, Codex Alimentarius, the New World Order.
02:51:30.000Whatever you do, just please address your questions to them or make your quick point.
02:51:35.000Okay, you got cut off again as we went to break, as you were trying to bring up the No Shots program, and you're calling for plaintiffs, specifically people... Who needs to call you?
02:51:50.000In New Jersey with kids five years and younger because the mandate is very strong that they must be vaccinated with the flu vaccines recommended by the CDC.
02:52:02.000And the judge, here's the point, when we went to the hearing on November 5th, the judge said, your case has New York plaintiffs and the New York mandate for health care workers has been called off.
02:52:16.000Therefore, he said, I want I want you to come back in.
02:53:31.000This is a federal case, Alex, so that if the judge rules in our favor and gives an injunction, it will keep the FDA from releasing any of their deadly vaccines.
02:53:44.000And this will set a huge precedent, too.
02:53:49.000It absolutely can stop the vaccine juggernaut in its tracks.
02:53:54.000And let me tell you, when the United States cannot proceed with its vaccine program, every other country in the world will come to a grinding, screeching halt.
02:54:07.000So this is a federal case, but it has global implications.
02:54:14.000If you want to be a New Jersey plaintiff,
02:54:17.000Email us at Ralph, R-A-L-P-H, dot Fusatola, F-U-C-E-T-O-L-A, at USA.net, Ralph.Fusatola, at USA.net, or go to our website, HealthFreedomUSA.org, and scroll down to the lower right-hand side, and there you will see an entry on Stop the Shot.
02:55:31.000This will allow you to participate and the more the merrier.
02:55:35.000It will allow you to participate in stopping the vaccines from being even recommended because they are illegal, they are untrusted, they are unsafe.
02:55:49.000And if people would have done this with Rick Perry, taking that deadly Gardasil shot and forcing it on people, there wouldn't have been all those deaths.
02:55:57.000We just lay here and go, Rick Perry's our God, he says we gotta take it, we do, we roll over and let him hit us.
02:56:05.000And I want to know how many of the girls and women who have taken that God-awful Gardasil and now the new one, Servivax, This is kind of dramatic how we keep losing them.
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02:59:42.000All right, we're going to take some phone calls for our guests.
02:59:52.000I meant to get them up for a full hour and a half and take calls, but we had problems connecting with Central America today.
02:59:58.000As you've heard, they got on about 20 minutes late.
03:00:01.000We'll have them on in a month or so again, because they have such a wealth of knowledge.
03:00:06.000And phone call-wise, Jay, Jeremiah, Paul, Brendan, Holly, and others, we're going to get to your calls coming up here in about 10 minutes, but I want them to be able to finish up with their initiative to fight the vaccines and the reports coming in of it sterilizing, miscarriages, deaths, convulsions.
03:01:37.000So please, especially with the holiday season, with Christmas here, give them an end of In the Fed t-shirt, give them a Fall of the Republic video, or a FEMA, Camp FEMA video, or Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
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03:02:58.000By the way, they got Woody Harrelson running around with these YouTube videos to hype 2012, where he goes, man, it's a conspiracy.
03:03:38.000But you were finishing up with the email address for people that are plaintiffs in New Jersey, and you were going to get into some other key issues about the damage we know the regular seasonal flu shot and the H1N1 are causing Dr. Labo and General Stubblebine.
03:03:54.000Ralph, R-A-L-P-H, Dot, Fusatola, F as in Frank, U, C as in Charlie, E, T as in Tom, O-L as in Lima, A, Fusatola, at USA.net.
03:04:11.000Write to us and tell us if you're interested in becoming a plaintiff, and we will help stop vaccines in the United States and, therefore, in the rest of the world.
03:06:14.000Oh, by the way, the doctor who helped So tremendously who is a colleague of mine whom I've known for many years, Dr. Rashid Buttar, did the ordinary things that doctors like Buttar and myself do when we have patients who are in trouble that the ordinary kind of allopathic medicine has And yet, we are the doctors who are under assault.
03:06:40.000Dr. Buttar has been seriously molested by the state of North Carolina, as have most of my colleagues.
03:06:50.000I mean, to be clear, you're saying the doctor, because she was highly publicized, he was able to contact her.
03:06:56.000You're saying the doctor who helped this lady stop the bad vaccine reaction, who was getting paralyzed, you're saying he's in trouble?
03:07:07.000We are all, those of us who are chelating physicians, some of us go to jail, some of us lose our licenses for using our medical judgment when it's not pharmaceutical, when it's not death dealing.
03:07:20.000Helping a patient curing cancer, for instance, if you're not an oncologist, and of course oncologists never cure cancer, Curing cancer is the surest way to lose your license if you acknowledge that you've... Well, there have been oncologists who've cured cancer who lose their license.
03:08:40.000Well, we know they're suppressing life extension technologies.
03:08:43.000That's why they want to bring in the world government, not just to kill us, but they say they need to get rid of us because they can't give life extension to 7 billion people.
03:08:53.000And that's the real reason they want to kill everybody.
03:08:56.000Not that there aren't enough resources.
03:09:00.000Because there won't be enough resources with the current technology if 7 billion people start living to be 150.
03:09:06.000I want to go to some phone calls here, and I want to have you guys back soon because there's so much to cover, but Doctor, when you were doing your residency, you made the point, and then when you were teaching as a doctor, and I've talked to many other medical doctors here on air, they said 20, 30, 40 years ago, seeing a child with cancer in the ward was like, come see this leprechaun, come see this Unicorn, come see this mermaid.
03:09:59.000When I was in medical school, and I did graduate within living memory, it was in 1970 as a matter of fact, when a child had cancer, other than a Wilms tumor of the kidney, all of us were brought in to gawk at the child, that was considered to be medical education.
03:10:16.000And it didn't do much for the child, it really didn't teach us anything, but that's how unusual any cancer in a child other than this one malignant tumor of the kidney was thought to be.
03:10:29.000Now the statistics are that by the year 2020, any child who reaches the age of 18 or whose birthday is 18 years at that point will have either died from cancer or survived cancer in 50% of the cases.
03:10:49.000That means one child in two is expected to get cancer.
03:10:54.000The ordinary immune system of a child is robust and vigorous, and children are very good at healing themselves.
03:11:01.000If they're healthy and haven't been vaccinated and are eating decent food, and they're in loving environments, they have wonderful immune systems.
03:11:15.000Because they've taken the vitamins out of the food, they're drinking corn syrup filled with mercury all day, which they add, for some reason, to brain damages.
03:11:22.000They've been given all these shots to burn out their immune system.
03:11:25.000And the police and military and government people, they'll just say, You now die at 15 of cancer.
03:11:31.000You know, this is just how America is, and if you don't like it, you're a conspiracy theorist.
03:11:36.000General, how long can they carry this Holocaust out until their own enforcers realize they're working for eugenicist, psychopathic killers?
03:11:47.000Well, as long as we keep the voices going and we keep doing pushback.
03:11:53.000And incidentally, we've got to do that.
03:13:51.000People are finally figuring out they're being lied to.
03:13:55.000It's just key that we be there, you and others, who have the truth, that everybody be there now that people are waking up, that we be there to give them the truth instead of them stumbling through life, taking another 10 years to find out what, you know, because it took us doing research, you and Bert and myself, you know, decades to figure all this out.
03:14:16.000All working separately, now we've gotten a high level of knowledge and people can come into this now and take advantage of all the research that people like yourselves have done.
03:14:26.000And they should, and that's why we make all our information available for free.
03:14:31.000But I want to mention that the German populace found out Through people like us, Alex, the German people found out that the politicians and the military were going to get the H1N1 vaccine without squalene, but they were going to get it with squalene.
03:15:21.000General Stubblebine, is that a probe in military terminology?
03:15:25.000That we go out, confront them, they overreact and show their true intention, waking up people that weren't on our side, now are, by seeing the bullying of the enemy.
03:15:37.000I'd say I would call that a secondary attack.
03:15:39.000You know, we know where the primary attack is going to go, but if they put out a probe like that, it's more like a secondary attack to get you to commit, and then they come around and hit you with their primary attack.
03:15:56.000So we've got to be very alert to these kinds of tactics.
03:16:03.000Well, no, I agree with you on that point.
03:16:12.000My point here is that by them trying to force people with fines to take the shot, that caused more people to go, why do you want me to take this so bad?
03:16:24.000I'm saying they're pushing us, seems to be blowing up in their face.
03:16:31.000And as soon as we reconnect, we'll talk to him.
03:16:34.000I've been intending to go to phone calls.
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03:17:44.000The rebroadcast is going to be a doozy.
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03:18:57.000They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
03:19:00.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
03:19:06.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
03:19:11.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
03:20:08.000Executive Order 10990 locks down all highways.
03:20:12.000Executive Order 10995 seizes control of all media outlets.
03:20:17.000Executive Order 10998 controls all farms and food supplies.
03:20:22.000All these executive orders are now cocked, loaded, and waiting for the right crisis.
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03:21:07.000Side issue, General Stubblebine, I know more is coming out, you may not want to comment now, but the FBI, the CIA watching him, he was a psychiatrist.
03:22:26.000We have to remember that as a psychiatrist, he had virtually unlimited access to any kind of prescription drug that he wanted.
03:22:38.000So, what we're looking at, forget about the myoclon, that may be part of it, but what we're looking at just as deeply be pure and simply the neurotoxicity of these Well, that's what I was going to say.
03:22:58.000for judgment to be suspended and cause aggression to be acted out against the sufferer against us at phenomenal rates.
03:23:07.000So we don't know how much of psychiatric mix which grew was in his bloodstream.
03:23:15.000And until we know that, we cannot eliminate that possibility.
03:23:50.000I mean, it's admitted that McVeigh was under mind control.
03:23:53.000It's admitted the Unabomber was mind control.
03:23:56.000This is mainstream news, so we have to look at this guy when he fits all the earmarks and ask what was going on and why does this serve purposes.
03:24:05.000He certainly could be a Muslim extremist.
03:24:09.000We don't have time for calls because of the audio problem.
03:24:12.000The next time we can get a good line, the next few weeks, we will have them back on as soon as we get a clean line down to Central America.
03:24:19.000But the website is healthfreedomusa.org.
03:24:22.000I want to have you back up soon about the attack on vitamins, the attack on organic foods, and I want to thank Albert N. Stubblebine III and Dr. Reema E. Labo, MD.
03:24:33.000I want to thank both of you for the super job you're doing, and I want to encourage everybody to go to healthfreedomusa.org or to go to that email and to get involved as plaintiffs in this suit to block forced inoculation of little kids in New Jersey.
03:24:49.000This is such important work you're doing, and I salute both of you.