Reverend James Manning was visited by Homeland Security and the CIA and told he will soon be arrested because he has been covering the Obama birth certificate issue. John Perkins and Alan Combs join Alex to talk about the Fort Hood shooter.
00:00:14.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:18.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:38.000It is the 19th day of November on this Thursday edition the 19th day of November 2009 we're going to be live here for the next four hours Well several days ago Reverend Manning Living in New York City popular Church pastor and also radio host was visited by Homeland Security and the CIA and
00:01:08.000threatened and told he will soon be arrested Particularly because he's been covering the birth certificate issue And I tell you the Obama people sure act guilty on this on this topic We certainly cover it and look at it and believe it's suspicious,
00:01:28.000but I don't make it my focal point When criticizing Obama, the fact that Obama has lied about everything he's ever said or done and broken all of his pledges, that's what we can focus on and prove.
00:01:46.000But I don't really like even going after him for the birth certificate because then it makes it all about Obama.
00:01:51.000When Obama is just a front man like George W. Bush and Clinton and Bush Sr. before him.
00:01:57.000But nevertheless, the persecution of Reverend Manning is very, very serious.
00:02:02.000He'll be joining us in T-minus 30 minutes.
00:02:05.000John Perkins will be popping in for 30 minutes.
00:02:09.000Best-selling author of Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
00:02:12.000He's a big part of my film Fall of the Republic.
00:02:14.000I want to get a quick take from him on the state of the world and the banking system and the imploding economy.
00:02:20.000Then I had Webster Tarpley on a few days ago for just for 30 minutes breaking down His detailed essay that he wrote, investigative report, asking, is the Fort Hood shooter a patsy taking part in a drill?
00:02:37.000But separately, I wanted to have Tarpling on with the economy as we watch the slow destruction of the dollar.
00:02:42.000And then Alan Combs is coming back on.
00:02:46.000He has me four or five times a year on his syndicated radio show, and I like to have Combs up so we can spar back and forth.
00:02:53.000It's always interesting to hear somebody who denies there's a world government being formed even when it's in hundreds of newspapers.
00:03:02.000Some will ask, why do we have establishment types on the show?
00:03:07.000Because you get to hear it directly from their own mouths.
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00:08:24.000Also, we did an exclusive interview a few weeks ago when David Icke was in the United States and I want to play 20 minutes or so of this Today the first 20 minutes of the hour-long interview because it's particularly Penetrating and informative and thought-provoking whether you agree with David on issues
00:08:54.000or not We're gonna play that here for the radio listeners today.
00:08:58.000The video of the interview is posted for prisonplanet.tv members So that is coming up later as well Where to start NSA is giving Microsoft some help on its Windows 7 security I mean, now when they build back doors into your computer software, they just hide it in plain view and say, oh, they're helping us with security.
00:09:26.000It's absolutely illegal, all part of this technocracy we have running our society.
00:09:42.000And in it, they have a photoshopped image of the earth with hurricanes all over it and with part of the United States being flooded and don't even tell people that it's photoshopped.
00:10:00.000There's a bunch of articles here dealing with taxes that are part of the global greenhouse gas tax initiative being implemented at the state level.
00:10:08.000That's the strategy right now being used by the federal and international regulatory bodies, is just bypass Congress entirely.
00:10:15.000California requires TVs to be more energy efficient.
00:10:18.000You heard Schwarzenegger say, ban TVs above 40 inches, period.
00:10:25.000And now the AP is reporting that it's even worse than that, so we'll let you know.
00:10:29.000And in the healthcare bill, not only are there rationing death panels, not only are there Five years in prison quarter million dollar fines if you don't get insurance or pay your 2.5 to 5% of your paycheck on top of it as a new tax to the government Senate bill includes Botox tax.
00:10:48.000I mean there's that type of stuff There is a five billion dollar estimated tax there and and and Harry Reid gave a speech.
00:10:59.000We have time later, I'm going to play this, but it's up on Politico.
00:11:23.000And it's going to cut spending and it's going to balance the budget.
00:11:31.000This is exactly what Obama's been saying now for a year and a half, since, two years really, since he was on the campaign trail and now president for 11 months, sworn in for 11 months, elected over a year ago.
00:11:45.000And it's just such an insult to everyone's intelligence.
00:11:50.000Obama has quadrupled the yearly deficit Spending more money.
00:12:18.000That is more money than every president before him, back to George Washington.
00:12:23.000And they're running around saying they're saving money and have cut the size of government.
00:12:29.000The lies have reached a level that is farcical.
00:12:37.000It's like the ADL and CBS News and all of their publications in the last two days attacking yours truly, saying I'm the big kingpin, king of conspiracy, incredibly popular, dangerous, reaching too many people, implying I'm gonna cause a violent overthrow and something has to be done with me.
00:12:58.000Anybody who listens knows that's a lie.
00:13:03.000I speak out against preemptive offensive attacks on this criminal system.
00:13:08.000And then the ADL says I'm lying and saying that there's a world government being set up when it's in the newspapers.
00:13:13.000People are gonna see the ADL say that, open their newspaper up, and read New World Order, world government, every day in the papers, and they're gonna go, well, wait, how's this guy bad then if he's saying that?
00:13:28.000I think the ADL and the government and the establishment types really underestimate the work we've done and how many people we've woken up and overestimate their power.
00:13:39.000You're discredited, and you're only discrediting yourself worse, just like with the mercury and the vaccines.
00:13:44.000They've told every school kid in America, they've handed out fact sheets at hospitals and colleges and businesses saying, oh, it's a myth there's mercury.
00:14:56.000Let's go ahead and play his little four-minute announcement that we've got linked up on InfoWars.com if you want to go watch it for yourself.
00:15:04.000I am James David Manning, pastor of the Otlaw World Missionary Church in Harlem, Otlaw, New York.
00:15:14.000I'm also the host of the daily radio broadcast called The Manning Report.
00:15:22.000On the 16th of November, 2009, on or about 6 p.m. in the afternoon, two CIA agents claiming to be members of Homeland Security and two New York City detectives came to our church to ask me questions regarding statements I have made about Barack Hussein, the long-legged mac daddy, Obama.
00:15:50.000They drew my attention, the agents did, to a posting on our website called Tea Party Members Go Viral on the Birth Certificate.
00:16:02.000And in that particular posting, I stated that the long-legged Mac Daddy is invincible by the vote.
00:16:10.000But only should you turn your attention to the birth certificate issue, then he becomes outrageously vulnerable.
00:16:21.000He is indeed An illegal alien, and is not qualified to be the U.S. President.
00:16:29.000But to spend all of my energy and time to overthrow this evil that has entered into our world.
00:16:37.000As an American patriot, I'm compelled to fight to restore our Republic and its Constitution.
00:16:46.000I expect, as a result of the visit last night by the CIA and New York City police detectives, Homeland Security people, I expect to be arrested in not too many days.
00:17:02.000Therefore, I pray to explain the entire matter of the Dark Kingdom in my representation of light in these very dark and evil days.
00:17:14.000I will be charged with the threat against the life of the U.S. President.
00:17:22.000Understanding that I will be arrested, I wish to state to my church family, friends, and supporters, that at present, I am of a sound mind.
00:17:34.000That the evil, dark kingdom that is now led by Barack Hussein, the long-legged mac daddy, Obama, That they, in the arrest, will not take my freedom simply by placing me in chains.
00:17:51.000But they took the freedom from all of us with their acts of treason and their conspiracy to commit treason against the American people.
00:18:02.000Thusly, we all have lost our freedoms.
00:18:07.000I want you to know, my church family, friends and supporters, That I knowingly and willingly have submitted to my God, who asked me to serve Him in this cause and in this matter.
00:18:22.000And He alone has set my course, and He alone will be my judge.
00:18:29.000And so I say to Mr. Barack Hussein, the long-legged Mac Daddy Obama, members of the Central Intelligence Agency, Eric Holder, Leon Panetta, and all the others, that here I am at the Outlaw World Missionary Church in Harlem, Outlaw, New York.
00:19:03.000And in doing so, we can finally bring this matter of your Ineligibility to serve this great republic and your belligerent trashing of the Constitution can be brought to the American people.
00:22:21.000On June 4th, 1963, Executive Order 11110 was signed with the authority to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to lend money to the United States government in interest.
00:22:32.000With the stroke of a pen, Kennedy would have put the Fed out of business.
00:22:35.000The November assassination quieted the production of the new currency.
00:22:38.000However, the Executive Order still stands unrepealed.
00:24:17.000Yeah, that may be where political dissident Reverend Manning's going.
00:24:23.000Whether you love him or hate him, he's not been calling for any violence against the puppet in chief.
00:24:28.000I don't think anybody should try to hurt the puppet.
00:24:30.000That would make everybody think the puppet actually ran something instead of the real power structure.
00:24:36.000We haven't had a real president, ladies and gentlemen, who truly ran things since JFK.
00:24:41.000Reagan got a bit uppity with the vice president, the former CIA chief, and ooh, you know what happened to Reagan then after that little medical trip to the Air Force Base, he began to behave himself.
00:24:52.000Later when we're live at PrisonPlanet.tv, I'll replay these so folks can actually see the video, but the audio says it as well.
00:24:59.000And usually we don't play CNN's kook of the week or whatever, they almost always now use clips from my radio show.
00:25:05.000They wouldn't dare actually have me on.
00:25:07.000But CNN interviewed Oath Keeper Stuart Rhodes in a five minute piece and let him talk three times for about five, six seconds.
00:25:19.000They would always edit him down so that he couldn't get any information out.
00:25:25.000And they would show rooms full of hundreds and hundreds of Oath Keepers meeting and they'd show the one guy with a big beard or the one person in flip-flops Not that you're bad if you have a big beard or flip-flops to make people look kooky.
00:25:40.000It's akin to playing clown music in the background.
00:25:43.000And then when they were explaining they're nonpartisan and just want police and military to uphold their oath, how can that be extremism like the ADL and Southern Poverty Law Center are saying?
00:25:58.000They cut to Fall of the Republic and say, oh, the anti-Obama movie, Fall of the Republic.
00:26:05.000No, the whole film is about how Obama is just a puppet who is going to be built up and then politically destroyed so that all the political heat on the unpopular globalist agenda gets blamed on him.
00:26:19.000This is actually, in the long run, helping the individual Obama by letting people know he was just a front man.
00:26:27.000And it helps the people of the world understand how the political system really works.
00:26:32.000It's not good for Obama short-term or even long-run for people to actually think he's running things.
00:26:39.000Now, I do think he's an evil, lying lawyer who knows what he's doing, but he is still mid-level, ladies and gentlemen, just like George W. Bush was.
00:26:46.000But they wanted to inject this statement about anti-Obama so that all of the Obama supporters watching would then hate Stuart Rhodes and the Oath Keepers, when Stuart Rhodes and the Oath Keepers were criticizing George Bush.
00:27:06.000They were also implying there's no FEMA camps.
00:27:09.000So Kurt Nimmo wrote a very important story up on InfoWars.com titled CNN Propaganda Segment on Oath Keepers Demonizes Fall of the Republic.
00:27:17.000And he just links to ABC News, Houston Chronicle, Wall Street Journal, admitting the FEMA camps for political dissonance.
00:27:42.000Here is a short clip where they try to invoke the left-right paradigm to divide everyone so that all the Democrats will hate Oath Keepers and think that it's an anti-Obama group.
00:28:11.000Mark Potok, who monitors extremist groups for the Southern Poverty Law Center, says the Oath Keepers are exploiting false rumors found on fringe websites.
00:28:19.000Many of the Oath Keepers are people who believe that martial law is about to be imposed at any moment.
00:28:29.000We have the National Guard, the Regular Army, and the Marine Corps running checkpoints nationwide and engaging in flagrant violations of the Posse Comitatus Act under direct orders from the Pentagon.
00:28:43.000I mean, to go over the evidence, Army Times, they're announcing they're going to deploy 379,000 Regular Army troops on the streets of America phased in over the next three years.
00:28:59.000But they're telling the public, hey, you're not supposed to discuss these issues.
00:29:02.000It's not kosher to talk about these topics.
00:29:04.000Here's a clip from Glenn Beck two days ago, where Damon Vickers plugged the show, and Beck looked like he was going to have a heart attack.
00:29:11.000There are a lot of conspiracy theories out there, and I had the benefit of doing the Alex Jones show last night, and I heard a couple of them.
00:29:18.000And I'm not disputing that many of them may be actually true, but market forces are likely to take...
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00:33:29.000of enemies by Barack H. Obama, because of my film, The Obama Deception, and they also listed the upcoming fall, The Republic, which is now out.
00:33:38.000CNN has attacked us over the film, CBS Nightly News, The Jerusalem Post, the ADL of all groups, The New Republic, Salon.
00:33:50.000They are openly saying, I've got to be taken down, I'm dangerous, I'm calling for violence, when I never Call for violence and we speak out against agent provocateurs and violence.
00:34:03.000We've had the Secret Service here twice probing around we have had the FBI here probing around so I take this very very seriously when it happens to another broadcaster and a pastor Who's protected doubly under the First Amendment and who I've never heard call for any violence.
00:34:22.000James David Manning is a chief pastor of the ATLA World Missionary Church at 123rd Street in New York City.
00:34:29.000ATLA stands for All the Land Anointed Holy, which is God's name for Harlem.
00:34:34.000Manning graduated from the College of New Rochelle with a Bachelor of Arts degree and continued on to the Union Theological Seminary in New York City where he was awarded a Master of Divinity.
00:34:44.000Manning also holds a Doctor of Philosophy degree from the Atla Theological Seminary.
00:34:48.000And we really appreciate him coming on.
00:34:51.000He has a radio show and a very popular television program called The Manning Report.
00:34:59.000And I've gotten a lot of calls, a lot of emails the last two days since we linked to a video up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com where he talks about a very threatening meeting he had with the Secret Service slash CIA.
00:35:13.000And if you don't know, the CIA works with the local New York police and the Secret Service.
00:35:20.000And he said in the report that he believes he will be arrested.
00:35:24.000So to give us full details on what happened for the rest of this hour, Uh, is Pastor James David Manning.
00:35:32.000And whether you love him or hate him, and I happen to really like him, and he's a man of great courage and a great orator and teacher of the Bible as well, whether you love him or hate him, he's got his First Amendment.
00:35:41.000And though I haven't seen all of his videos, or read all of his work, I mean, he's always talking about what's going to happen in this country.
00:36:00.000I'm really delighted to be on your broadcast today.
00:36:03.000And let me say right away, I have, as millions of other Americans have benefited greatly from your precise, eagle-eyed vision teaching of what's happening in this nation from a political point of view, from a Federal Reserve point of view.
00:36:19.000You know, the Obama deception, the fall of the Republic, has really become the college, the university, the place of education of Americans I just want to thank you for informing me of so many things that I could not have known without having gone through all of your presentations.
00:36:48.000Why do you think that this has been reported on the Senate floor by Senator Alexander?
00:36:57.000Why do you think that we are now witnessing this attempt to intimidate myself, yourself, and many others, and then blow by blow, that's why everybody's tuning in right now, what exactly happened at your church earlier this week?
00:37:16.000Well, to answer your first question first, I believe there's several things, and I pray that the audience will understand this in the light of which I mean it.
00:37:24.000I believe that Obama and all of his backers are convinced that they have the power to overthrow this nation.
00:37:34.000Therefore, they're not intimidated by the idea of threatening arrest or preparing to arrest.
00:37:41.000In many ways, a visit to your office, as they've done, could be very much a test of the American response to see how quickly or if the American people will remain asleep to this.
00:37:54.000The next time they come to your ministry or office, it may be for the full arrest and they'll never be seen again.
00:38:01.000To answer the second question, basically the same thing, but here's what happened on this past Monday night.
00:38:07.000Just three days ago, at 6 o'clock in the evening, I had just finished the broadcast that I do on the Manning Report.
00:38:13.000I just did my salutation for the evening, and someone knocked on the door and told me that the Homeland Security was in the building, You're Well, I was in a different part of the building, so I said, all right, okay, bring them up.
00:38:32.000They came up, two members of Homeland Security who identified themselves as CIA agents, and I thought that was interesting.
00:38:41.000I thought that would be for foreign intrigue or foreign concerns.
00:38:46.000And then they said, also, we're part of Homeland Security.
00:38:50.000They also had with them two members who were detectives of the 28th Precinct New York City Police Department, but the detectives that they had were part of the riot control.
00:39:02.000I know those two detectives because I've worked in this community for quite some time.
00:39:35.000They came into my study and stated they wanted to talk to me.
00:39:38.000And I asked them, well, what did you want to talk about?
00:39:42.000They pointed out that I stated in one of the video postings a week or so ago And I addressed the Tea Party people, telling them how futile it was running around doing what they were doing, because they were getting nowhere.
00:39:58.000And if they spent the money and energy that they spent on the birth certificate issue, his eligibility, they could get somewhere.
00:40:08.000and then we could finally bring him to trial, and we could find him guilty of treason and execute him and shoot him.
00:41:02.000I have not advocated the overthrow of the government.
00:41:06.000I've not advocated violence towards the government.
00:41:11.000Indeed, I've advocated the upholding of the Constitution.
00:41:15.000I think what they were doing, and I'm clear about it now, is they were They want to see what kind of support I have and how would the American people respond to arrests.
00:41:29.000I believe the people that have been visited by the Secret Service, Homeland Security, all are going to be arrested shortly.
00:41:38.000But in due course, if you've been visited by the Secret Service under the Obama administration, except we remove them from office, you're going to be arrested.
00:41:47.000They're not dumb, the Secret Service Department.
00:41:50.000They test once you go on their black list or their enemy's list or Obama's enemy's list.
00:42:00.000Well, to be clear, I had not seen the video you're discussing in question, and I know that you've never called for any violence.
00:42:16.000specifically you're saying through a judicial Judicial process, if anyone was found guilty of treason or high treason, we know what the penalties are under federal law.
00:42:31.000My issue, Pastor Manning, and I don't believe you threatened the President, and I believe it was your First Amendment right to say that.
00:42:37.000My issue is, if anything ever happened to Obama, they would turn him into a martyr, a saint, when he is a larger front for the overall New World Order.
00:42:48.000I know from your research you believe he is even more evil and more powerful than that.
00:43:28.000Number one is that we would probably never get the opportunity to demonstrate his ineligibility and the fraud that he has perpetrated on this nation, all the people that have put him up to it.
00:43:39.000But even more important than that, he would be turned instantly into a martyr.
00:43:43.000He would be more popular and powerful than Jesus.
00:43:46.000He's already more popular and powerful than Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
00:44:16.000My issue is the few times they've been here, they always claim that they're here for one reason, but then they start bringing up other issues and asking me my views on the president and asking me my views on my listeners and probing and then calling my employees, not just coming, but calling random extensions and asking my employees Things about my operation, about our servers, about our websites.
00:44:43.000And I just wonder how they get so many men to willfully engage in Nazi or slash Soviet or Maoist tactics.
00:44:53.000I mean, that's very un-American to have political police or commissars like they had in Russia creeping around.
00:45:00.000And I certainly hope that your discernment's wrong, but I know you do have, I do respect you and respect your discernment.
00:45:09.000The riot control police officer who is in charge of community affairs here in the Harlem area, I know him.
00:45:19.000We've had to interact with him on several issues regarding our schools.
00:45:24.000Not that there's violence, but community meetings to help make the community safer.
00:45:30.000So he's involved in reaching out to pastors and clergy.
00:45:37.000When he came in to, when they all came in, when I heard that the Homeland Security was downstairs, I immediately thought I was going to be arrested.
00:47:44.000Across the board, the power elite are paying attention to what many of us are doing.
00:47:51.000We've got a few minutes till we go to break.
00:47:53.000Would you like to directly address the CIA, the Secret Service, the American Commissars, and The man who goes by the name Barack H. Obama, Barry Sitaro, would you like to address them?
00:48:08.000Yes, and he has yet another name, the long-legged magnetic, which is an official name for him.
00:48:14.000Having the privilege to do so, I would want to say that, first of all, I am an American patriot.
00:48:21.000I love this nation with all of the strength and love that I can possibly muster.
00:48:27.000And I will stand in defense of this nation and its great constitution.
00:48:30.000It is the greatest nation on the planet, and there's never been one like it, except for
00:49:20.000I'm prepared to do that, but I am not prepared to live in this nation knowing in my heart that this nation has been robbed by Barrissettoro, Barack Hussein Obama, the long-legged back daddy.
00:49:32.000So I say to all of those who are considering my actions and possibilities of my actions, I will not relent.
00:49:40.000This brutal visit by the Homeland Security coming and polluting our sanctuary in church has only made me fight more tenaciously.
00:49:50.000You have not seen me fight as of prior to your coming.
00:50:26.000I tell you, you have a lot of courage, Pastor Manning, a lot of courage, because certainly they are listening to every word you are saying right now, and you just have a lot of courage.
00:50:43.000Really, I'm speechless here today, the power of what Pastor Manning is saying.
00:50:49.000We'll be right back with the final five minutes with our guest on the other side, right here on the GCN Radio Network.
00:50:57.000Website on the other side of the break.
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00:54:28.000Well, I have no choice in this matter.
00:54:46.000I suppose that the commitment in my voice is also my love for this nation.
00:54:58.000It's great reward more specifically this nation is is worth Standing up for it's just no question about it.
00:55:07.000It's worth every ounce of strength anybody gives to it Well, they may not arrest you because you've pointed out that it will only give you more attention in the birth certificate more attention and people will ask well Pastor man didn't call for violence.
00:55:26.000He said that if Obama's committed treason.
00:55:30.000I mean, I don't know if I agree that that You know the penalty Should but I guess the penalty for treason is is is very very serious There's so many other powerful people behind Obama I would like to see them all brought to justice through the courts and and and see what the courts decide but You know Where do you see this going?
00:55:55.000I think that if Americans, this entire process is going to shed a lot of lot of light on the Federal Reserve system as well.
00:56:04.000The present economic status of our nation, there's never been anyone that has had as many of the, I suppose, supporters or goons from the Federal Reserve and the powers that be than Obama in terms of in his cabinet membership.
00:56:24.000I believe I'm confident as well that when he tumbles that it will cause light to be shown.
00:56:32.000A crack will be then seen into all of what you have discussed with respect to the Illuminati, the Bill DeBerry.
00:56:57.000I mean, giving him a Nobel Prize for peace when he's expanding the wars, the way they worship him, they certainly do want to turn him into a god.
00:57:05.000And now Al Gore says his global warming movement is a religion.
00:57:55.000Well, Pastor, unfortunately we're out of time, but hopefully you won't be arrested by next week.
00:58:00.000I'd like to get you up sometime in the next few weeks for a full hour to really go through your beliefs and the important views you have for us.
00:58:07.000And also, as a black American, a patriotic American, the way Obama's people have been invoking race and actually creating racial division.
01:00:45.000John Perkins was recruited by the National Security Agency during his last year at Boston University School of Business Administration.
01:00:51.000In 68, he spent the next three years in the Peace Corps in South America, and then in 71, joined the international consulting firm.
01:01:00.000And it goes on from there, and he became a top economic hitman, helping bring down third world countries under the Global Banking Cartel and Corporate Cartel's control.
01:01:11.000And we have him joining us today for the next 30 minutes.
01:01:15.000John, it's great to have you here with us.
01:01:43.000We did a lot of different things, but the most common was to identify countries with resources that corporations cover, usually third world countries or something like oil.
01:01:52.000Range a huge loan to that country from the World Bank or its affiliates.
01:01:56.000However, that money never went to the country.
01:01:58.000Instead, it went to our own corporations to build infrastructure projects in the country, like power plants and industrial parks, things that would benefit a few wealthy families, as well as our companies.
01:02:09.000But we'd leave the rest of the country just holding a big debt.
01:02:12.000People couldn't afford electricity, couldn't get jobs, and industrial parks are still holding a huge debt.
01:02:17.000And so we'd go back and say, listen, you can't pay your debt, so sell your oil, real cheap to our oil companies, without any environmental restrictions.
01:02:25.000Vote with us on a UN vote, or let us build a military plant on your soil.
01:02:29.000And when we failed, which wasn't too often, Alex, but I talk in my books about how I failed with Jaime Roldo's democratically elected presidency.
01:02:37.000Ecuador and with Omar Torrijos of Panama, the jackals go in and either overthrow governments or assassinate the leaders.
01:02:44.000And in the case of both Roaldos and Torrijos, because I wasn't able to bring them around to corrupt them, they were both assassinated.
01:02:52.000When all else fails, then and only then, like in Iraq, the military goes in.
01:02:58.000And I think we can see an analogy here.
01:03:01.000In this country, we've gotten people to take on huge debts that they can pay You know, take mortgages out on houses that they couldn't repay with a promise that, you know, that house is going to double in value in the next five years.
01:03:14.000So if you can just pay a little bit more than you'd want to, but very soon you'll have a piece of property that's worth a lot more than you invested.
01:03:21.000And then the bubble bursts, and people get taken.
01:03:25.000I'm watching people right here in San Francisco right now, out on the street, demonstrating, picketing a big hotel here.
01:03:33.000And it reminds me, I talk in Hoodwinked about a guy like that.
01:03:37.000He told me that he just was headed off on a picket line when some man appeared and reminded him that he had a big mortgage on his home and he didn't go on a picket line.
01:03:49.000He was afraid if he did that he would lose his job, not be able to pay for his home, not be able to pay the mortgage, lose his wife, lose everything.
01:03:57.000And that is something that really Inflated and we use that extensively in the third world and now it's being used tremendously in this country as well as many other techniques I Want to get your perspective before you leave us because I'm trying to get different views on this on solutions To this,
01:04:16.000you know, we hear about the death of the dollar being eminent gold above 1150 an ounce But then separately we also see the jackals the paramilitary forces now being deployed with As they announce the end of posse commentatus here in the United States, it's becoming increasingly clear George Bush, Barack Obama...
01:04:35.000Are just front men, even if they were good guys.
01:04:38.000And it's the National Security Council, the NSA, the Pentagon that are really in control.
01:04:45.000And how do we even have a debate with these people?
01:04:47.000Because we can, for a dialogue, we can all have our own solutions, our own ideas.
01:04:51.000The problem is they've got their own idea and they're in the driver's seat.
01:04:55.000John Perkins, author of Hoodwinked, a bestseller in stores now, is our guest.
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01:08:26.000Ladies and gentlemen, it is a power-packed broadcast today.
01:08:30.000We had Reverend Manning on in the last hour, John Perkins for the next 30 minutes, and Webster Tarbley on the economy, Alan Combs.
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01:08:43.000We're gonna have a debate with him, find out what we agree on, what we disagree on, coming up in the last hour today.
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01:09:01.000This radio show, I'm not bragging, it's actually freaking me out, is being propelled into the mainstream everywhere, and I'm trying to figure out exactly what is going on.
01:09:13.000John, I suddenly have the right wing, the left wing, the CBS News, the ADL, I don't even really talk about Israel, Salon, the New Republic, all talking about me, and a lot of it's negative, but then some of it is positive, and then a lot of it's saying I'm dangerous, and that And that we're spreading like wildfire and we're incredibly powerful.
01:09:40.000I don't think of myself as incredibly powerful.
01:09:43.000Maybe they're just building me up for public consumption and building my name up before they destroy me.
01:09:48.000That's kind of what my instincts are telling me.
01:09:51.000I didn't mean to get you on and then ask you about myself, but you're a pretty savvy guy that's worked at all these different international levels of corporations.
01:10:02.000I mean, usually they If they're going to do something to you, they don't talk too much about you ahead of time unless they're really painting a bad picture so that you become a bad guy that the Patriot Act can go after and they can put you away someplace in some little room closet in some penitentiary where nobody will ever see you again for the rest of your life.
01:10:21.000I doubt if they're going to do that to you.
01:10:22.000You're a little too public for that, I think.
01:10:26.000I spoke at the United Nations last week.
01:10:28.000I also last week spoke to 2400 at a conference of 2400 MBA students up at Cornell.
01:10:34.000uh... last night here in san francisco and portland the other speaking all over the country people keep coming up to me and telling me that they've seen me in your film and your films great and and and your films getting out there and and that's probably what's going on here uh...
01:10:48.000so i you know i i would think of the compliment if i were you and and good publicity but i'd also keep looking over my shoulder uh...
01:10:55.000you know that this period be careful i think the best defense is to keep getting the word out and get the word out that you're a little scared uh...
01:11:02.000because exactly and and Get the word out that if something strange happens to you in the next few months, nobody should accept the fact that you're suicidal or whatever.
01:11:30.000When you went public against these people, and I know had some dirty tricks, but you came through that.
01:11:36.000And I think something else is happening.
01:11:38.000I think a lot of people in the establishment itself, like you, but this happened to you years ago, it's happening to them now, are really realizing that the system we've created, even if you're a member of the elite, I agree with you.
01:12:02.000You know, in the last 30, 40 years we've created what I call a mutant viral form of capitalism.
01:12:09.000And the sole goal You know, it was expressed by the economist Milton Friedman and really embraced by Ronald Reagan and every U.S. president since, Democrat and Republican alike, the goal that the only responsibility of business is to create profits, regardless of social and environmental costs.
01:13:17.000As I travel around talking to MBA students and college students who are going to go into business, I've seen, Alex, in the last five years, a tremendous change in attitude amongst them.
01:13:26.000They're really talking a lot more about social responsibility, the triple bottom line, environmental responsibility.
01:13:34.000And this is very positive, and yet it's also going to elicit a reaction from the corporatocracy, those in control.
01:13:44.000Trying to navigate this minefield with your unique experience and perspective, certainly there is an overall agenda of a world elite.
01:13:55.000They tend to think the same, they have conferences and meetings, but there are power structure Yeah,
01:14:21.000we're at a time in history, Alex, it's like when cities, states became nations, except today The nations are losing their relevance and their power, and so are the presidents.
01:14:30.000As you pointed out, these big clouds sweeping around the planet that know no national borders or don't listen to any specific sets of laws.
01:15:50.000And the people who are benefiting from that system are not going to want to see it change, so they're going to resist very strongly.
01:15:56.000But we the people must get out there and force the system to change.
01:16:02.000But how do we do that without these different corporate interests misdirecting our energies?
01:16:08.000Because they're so good at coming in with a phony template and co-opting activist groups or creating their own activist groups for their own kind of Well, the how-to is a large part of Hoodwinked.
01:16:38.000And this baby's really driving my passion because I realized that if we stay the course, his world when he's my age six decades from now is going to be ugly.
01:16:47.000But we have the opportunity to change it, and we must recognize that the only way my grandson is going to inherit a sustainable, just, and peaceful world is if every child on the planet has that same expectation, and it's realized.
01:16:59.000This is the first time in history that this has been the case, where our own self-interest here in the United States is driven by a world self-interest.
01:17:08.000We can't have homeland security until we recognize the whole planet as our homeland.
01:17:12.000And this is very new, where we've become such a small, integrated planet.
01:17:16.000And so, the book Hoodwinked is all about that, but very, very briefly, I think a couple of things.
01:17:23.000These big corporations are dependent on us to buy their goods and services, or on our tax dollars to buy their goods and services.
01:17:35.000I often think, what if we really demanded of our government to take even a small share, to start with, of the military budget, pay the same companies, General Dynamics, Raytheon, whoever, But instead of building missiles, have them build and invent and build equipment that can clean up the terribly polluted land and rivers.
01:17:52.000But see, they don't want to do that, even though they would still make just as much money, because it would make those third world and developing world people educated and strong and self-sufficient, which in the long run the elite believes could displace them, and that's stated in a lot of top corporate documents that we've covered here on air.
01:18:12.000There is a method to this madness, this instinct by elites to not build up populations because if you keep them poor and dumbed down, they're much too worried about trying to get enough food to eat to ever take over their government and bring true freedom.
01:18:29.000Absolutely correct in terms of the people who are currently running a corporateocracy.
01:19:03.000And now we've seen a huge revolution in Latin America, where ten countries have voted in democratically, presidents who are saying no to this exploitation.
01:19:11.000And yet I was asked to speak at a conference of CEOs of many of the companies that are taking minerals out of Latin America, extractive companies.
01:19:23.000And I asked, why do you want an ex-economic hitman to speak to you?
01:19:26.000You know, someone wrote a book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
01:19:29.000And they said, because we realized that we can no longer get away with raping and plundering.
01:19:34.000I didn't use those words, but that's what they said.
01:19:36.000And yet we still want the minerals, so we want you to help us understand how we can work better with these people, how we can become better community members.
01:19:45.000And I think, Alex, we're seeing that in the new generation that's coming up.
01:19:48.000Well, I agree that there's some awakening happening, but also you're hurting them, so they want to be able to analyze you.
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01:21:45.000And right now in Washington DC, We have seen a fall of the Republic.
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01:22:08.000Unfortunately, with taxation, the rising cost of food, energy, housing, and medical, many retirees are forced to live below the poverty line.
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01:24:14.000This is an abbreviated interview with John Perkins.
01:24:17.000I look forward sometime when he comes to Austin getting him in studio with us.
01:24:20.000He is In my new film, Fall of the Republic, I'm glad to hear he's hearing a big buzz on the street about it.
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01:24:42.000Hoodwinked, Confessions of an Economic Hitman and other books he's written are really having a big effect and somebody that Constantly gets brought up to me when I'm on other talk radio shows is John Perkins.
01:24:52.000And it's another testament to the idea of if we just take action, over time we can affect change in a positive way.
01:24:59.000But don't expect things in this instant gratification society to be overnight.
01:25:03.000I use the analogy or parallel of ten years ago you couldn't find organic food in most grocery stores.
01:25:13.000So that's how we vote with our dollars, and that's what John Perkins really is an expert at, is showing people how to vote with their dollars.
01:25:21.000Do you still think that's one of the most powerful tools we have, John?
01:25:27.000Alex, you know, we've seen in the past, like, we got rid of apartheid in South Africa because we didn't buy from companies that supported it.
01:25:34.000We got big corporations to clean up terribly polluted rivers in this country.
01:25:38.000To bring in more women and minorities into their employment ranks, to get rid of hormones and trans fats in food and in animals.
01:25:49.000We've had a lot of success on specific issues, but now we need to ratchet that up a notch and say we're only going to buy from companies that are committed to creating a sustainable, peaceful, and socially just world.
01:26:03.000And you know, for the first hundred years in this country, No corporation could get chartered unless it proved that it was serving a public interest.
01:26:11.000Charters last about 10 years on average, and they had to go back to get re-chartered.
01:26:16.000that all changed in the late eighteen hundreds from the supreme court uh...
01:26:19.000decided that that rations have the same rights as individuals without the responsibilities but i think we need to go back to some laws that that they did that that force these companies to be good citizens uh...
01:26:31.000environmentally and socially and to start with that they get both walk moving into place you and i and all of your listeners need to send emails to every company out there i'm not buying from you nike because you still have sweatshops in indonesia and i am buying from u_x company because you don't who there's a lot that don't and you can find them on google as many places where you can find them so Well, that's like Walmart.
01:26:54.000I mean, we know Walmart is a predatory company that owns slave operations, slave wages around the world.
01:27:01.000We know they come in and sell under price, which isn't free market.
01:27:05.000It's predatory, destroy all their competition.
01:27:07.000I will not buy from Walmart because I know it's killing our country.
01:27:50.000You have to be sustainable, or you go out of existence.
01:27:53.000And that's the course that we're on right now, is one toward going out of existence.
01:27:58.000They've got to recognize this, too, and we need to force them.
01:28:01.000And I am encouraged by the students that I'm seeing in universities and business schools now that I think are getting it a lot more.
01:28:08.000They're being influenced by Al Gore's movie, by the Constant Gardner movies, Blood Diamond, so many books up there, films like yours, this show, there's so much that's going on that I think the new generation is coming up with a new sense of consciousness.
01:28:22.000But see, that's the only place we differ.
01:28:24.000I think what Al Gore is doing about making it all about carbon dioxide, that that becomes a distraction from all the other real environmental issues and the type of solutions that you come up with.
01:28:37.000I mean, I think that's That's where we differ, but overall, I know that you are just trying to get people involved, and simply getting the public involved is the start to them finding out what's really true and accurate.
01:28:50.000John Perkins' new book, of course, is already a bestseller out there, and it's titled Hoodwinked.
01:29:09.000Not dot com, that's some, I don't know, some crazy guy, but dot org.
01:29:14.000And also, you can reach me through Twitter at economic underscore hitman.
01:29:19.000If I know where I am, I'd love to meet with your people and get out there.
01:29:22.000And incidentally, I agree with what you said about the Al Gore thing, but I do think that every bit of that sort of stuff is helping to wake people up, and we need to go much further.
01:29:30.000Sure, it gets people thinking and creates a debate.
01:29:33.000I mean, getting people to not just watch football and start even thinking about political issues is the first step in the solution.
01:29:40.000John, thank you so much, and people can find out at johnperkins.org.
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01:35:06.000I mean, two days after we have a guest on there on Glenn Beck, I want to say hi to the Glenn Beck people.
01:35:12.000What's happened is they realized, because the corporations all track web numbers and statistics and Radio affiliate numbers and we're on a lot of small mom-and-pop stations some big stations But we're on in places like Chicago and stations going to San Francisco and San Diego and Miami and and in Buffalo and and Knoxville,
01:35:36.000Tennessee the list goes on and on Austin, Texas and Little bitty stations that we're on are now beating big talk stations now.
01:35:46.000Sometimes it takes a year But tiny stations have shown up big-time, I mean 500 waters in some cases, have shown up with no ratings, suddenly, boom!
01:35:57.000Two books later, Arbitron, big ratings, and it gets bigger and bigger.
01:36:01.000And so they know that this show is hotter than a firecracker, because we're just telling the truth.
01:36:08.000And we're shattering the left-right paradigm, and I don't know what's going on with All the media coverage, CBS negative.
01:36:20.000I mean, I can list all the, I mean, it's every day, 10, 15, 20 big newspapers talk about InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and what we're doing, and they talk about us like we're some type of grizzly bear stalking the night that's going into people's homes and eating them.
01:36:37.000I mean, it's like I'm some giant fire-breathing black dragon stomping across the landscape, and we're not.
01:36:46.000But Rush Limbaugh spent much of his first hour talking about the prisonplanet.com article and reading from it.
01:37:44.000They printed me up out of the hundreds of calls.
01:37:46.000They printed one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight different calls they think we should play, and I agree with them.
01:37:52.000We're going to play those after Tarpley's on with us, and I'm going to answer these questions.
01:37:57.000Some days we won't take calls when we've got four or five guests, but we will always play your calls from the phone system.
01:38:04.000That way we also know they're informative or good questions.
01:38:07.000And a lot of days we'll just take phone calls.
01:38:09.000I'm gonna really mix the show up, as we've been doing lately, because I gotta go to the next level here.
01:38:14.000I've got so many listeners, so many viewers, and sometimes I get a little bit lackadaisical that I'm on the radio reaching millions of people.
01:38:23.000I don't even get butterflies anymore when I go on national TV.
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01:43:52.000I'm going to go out to break with the first part of this David Icke interview, and then later at the end of the show, I'm going to Or at the beginning of the fourth hour, I'm gonna play part two.
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01:44:48.000And from PrisonPlanet.tv, here is the audio of the video with David Icke.
01:44:53.000PrisonPlanet.tv I'm David Icke from England.
01:45:02.000I went through an extraordinary series of what you might call paranormal experiences, not that they were, 20 years ago in 1990 and 89 and basically the veil lifted and I saw the world in a completely different way and I started on a journey of research which has led me over 20 years to a very ...
01:45:30.000obvious conclusion that this world is controlled by very, very few people, behind the people we think are in power, and they have a very, very malevolent agenda for humanity as a whole, who to them are nothing more than cattle.
01:45:46.000It doesn't take many brain cells on active duty to realize that we are at a fork in the road.
01:45:50.000We can no longer stand there, staring at the map, thinking, which way do I go?
01:45:55.000Because we're facing, in the next few years, enormous challenges, which we can cope with and we'll come through, and this control system's coming down, but ain't coming down tomorrow.
01:46:05.000When I started talking about this information 20 years ago, you know, You could hardly get anyone to look at it, and in terms of public events, I couldn't fill a phone booth.
01:46:16.000But over the last 20 years, there's been demonstrably, blatantly, obviously, a fantastic awakening, and it's getting faster and faster all the time.
01:46:26.000I first of all noticed a big change after 9-11, although the vast majority of people uh...
01:46:34.000bought the official line there was something about it that started to get others to think and come off the fence and when the weapons of mass destruction were not found in iraq it was almost like a a confirmation you know people talk about we must never believe what the government says you must never believe what the media says but so many people just go ahead and do that And the lack of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq were like somebody
01:47:05.000reminding you, see, look, governments lie!
01:47:10.000And after 2003 and all that, this awakening, this questioning of the world, this questioning of authority got more and more blatant.
01:47:19.000And as the Police state and the Orwellian state is breaking the surface ever more obviously it's it's getting more and more people to see the world in a way that they they wouldn't have done before and it's getting faster and faster and it's a it's a great time to To be doing what we're doing putting this information out and it's it's very very encouraging the whole Conspiracy is founded on
01:47:52.000Keeping humanity in a very, very low level of perception.
01:47:57.000Perception about self, perception about the world.
01:48:01.000This is why we have the dumbing down of education, this is why we have the controlled so-called information that comes through the media.
01:48:11.000The idea is to keep people in ignorance of Anything that would be a problem to the control system.
01:48:17.000So we kept in ignorance about the nature of reality itself, the nature of life itself, who we are, where we are, what we're doing here.
01:48:25.000We're kept in ignorance of the true forces that are manipulating behind the people we see in the public arena, like we had Eight years of Bush, who was blatantly just a figurehead signing his name on the legislation, and he's been replaced by Obama, who is another blatant figurehead doing the same, controlled by the same force, ultimately, that controlled Bush.
01:48:50.000Now, all these connections have to be kept from people so that we behave and perceive the world and everything in a way that suits the control system.
01:49:01.000So, any awakening Any opening of the mind to see things that people didn't see before is a real big problem for the conspiracy, for the manipulators.
01:49:16.000And what we're seeing now, as more and more people are awakening, is almost a panic-stricken attempt to put the lid on this, to dumb people down.
01:49:28.000And this is one reason why We're seeing the ever greater drugging of American children, not just American children, but in the wider world too.
01:49:39.000While we're seeing more and more of these chemical cocktails in food that destabilize the body's chemical balance and more and more electromagnetic pollution to destabilize the body's electrical electromagnetic balance.
01:49:57.000All of these things fundamentally affect the way people see the world and their ability to think sharply, to think straight and to see the peripheral vision which you need to see what's actually going on.
01:50:13.000And what an awakening mind does is start to do this, and when you do that you start to connect dots that you can't actually see here.
01:50:21.000What we're looking at now is An irresistible force, I would suggest, which is the gathering awaking of humanity, coming face to face with what thinks it's the immovable object, the conspiracy, but isn't as we'll see, although it's going to take some years before that becomes obvious.
01:50:40.000And so we're at this fork in the road.
01:50:42.000All right, stop right there at the fork in the road.
01:50:45.000I'm going to come back and play five more minutes of this.
01:50:47.000Then I'm going to break down the Rush Limbaugh situation when we go live at PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:50:51.000We're live on the radio, but this also becomes a television show, not just a webcam, but a fully produced television show for PrisonPlanet.tv members.
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01:55:04.000It has vast numbers of people enormous numbers of people compared with those at the core of the control system that actually know exactly what they're doing, what the agenda is.
01:55:15.000They are tiny in number compared with what is now supposed to be seven billion people on the planet.
01:55:21.000So one of the agendas to bring this under greater control for them is to massively cull the population.
01:55:35.000Now, if you If you want to remove lots of people, you can do it by injecting stuff into people's arms and they just keel over dead.
01:55:49.000But if you do that, and of course there is some of that that goes on, but if you do that, all the other people lined up are going to say, excuse me, I ain't having whatever they've had.
01:55:59.000So you do it in a more subtle way and you target The defense mechanism that everyone has called the immune system.
01:56:09.000For instance, people don't die of AIDS.
01:56:13.000They die of AIDS-related disease, which are diseases that the immune system, before it becomes shot, would have defended the body from.
01:56:23.000So all the time now, we're having the immune system targeted, not least among children and young people, By vaccinations, by food additives and drink additives, etc.
01:56:38.000And if we just think about this, I mean, it's so blatant.
01:56:41.000If people just take a deep breath and take a step back and look at it with a bit of peripheral vision.
01:56:48.000We have a situation now, not just in America, but in Britain and the wider world, where between birth and about two years of age, We're having children be given 25 and rising different vaccinations and combinations of them,
01:57:14.000poured in all these chemical cocktails that destabilize the body, but more important than that, they have to be dealt with by a still-developing immune system.
01:57:31.000So the immune system is still developing, it's still coming up to optimum efficiency and suddenly this tidal wave of chemical concoctions is thrown at it and has to deal with it.
01:57:46.000As it's dealing with one, suddenly another one comes.
01:57:50.00025 vaccinations over the first two years of life.
01:57:53.000It is, by any level of common sense, It's ludicrous, and it's meant to be ludicrous, because it's targeting the immune systems of young children, which, because it's done at a developing time in the immune system, rewires it, destabilizes it, imbalances it for the rest of their lives.
01:58:12.000Those kids' immune system will never be as efficient as it would have been otherwise.
01:58:18.000My son, he's now 16, he's never had a vaccination.
01:58:23.000He's six foot five, incredibly healthy, never had a childhood disease.
01:58:28.000And his mates at school had childhood diseases.
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