Alex Jones Show - November 26, 2009


20091126_Thu_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 59 minutes

Words per Minute

166.89037

Word Count

40,037

Sentence Count

3,060

Misogynist Sentences

21

Hate Speech Sentences

43


Summary

Jesse Ventura joins Alex Jones to discuss his new show Conspiracy Theory and why he thinks it's the best show on TV right now. He also talks about his time on Larry King Live and gives us a preview of what's to come on the new show.


Transcript

00:00:04.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
00:00:09.000 You want answers?
00:00:10.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:22.000 Well, we're into our number two simulcasting the syndicated radio transmission at PrisonPlanet.tv and Living Color.
00:00:29.000 Joining us from Minnesota, he's about to travel down to Mexico to do some surfing, is former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura, of course a star of films like The Running Man, Predator, and many other films.
00:00:45.000 He's hosted a MSNBC national television show.
00:00:49.000 He's hosted NFL football.
00:00:51.000 There's not much this guy hadn't done.
00:00:53.000 And now he's got a huge show.
00:00:55.000 They're saying it's going to be their big push in the winter.
00:00:58.000 Their big number one promoted show.
00:00:59.000 And I'm seeing that now in the media.
00:01:02.000 That's conspiracy theory created by Jesse Ventura.
00:01:05.000 I'm a consultant on it.
00:01:06.000 I'm in some of the episodes.
00:01:07.000 I'm very honored to be involved in it.
00:01:10.000 And to give you the inside scoop, he starts the media blitz tomorrow.
00:01:13.000 To give you the inside scoop, is Jesse Ventura with us?
00:01:16.000 For the next hour, we may twist his arm a little bit in the next hour to take some phone calls, but we'll see.
00:01:22.000 Governor, it is good to have you here with us.
00:01:24.000 Hi Alex, great to be here again.
00:01:28.000 I guess I should call you Huggy Bear.
00:01:33.000 And I'll explain that for a moment.
00:01:35.000 No, Alex has been good enough.
00:01:38.000 He appears in a couple of the episodes of Conspiracy Theory that we did.
00:01:42.000 And so, because he's the only really reoccurring character we've ever had in the first initial buy, we went back to the old Starsky and Hutch show.
00:01:52.000 And you all remember Huggy Bear, don't you?
00:01:54.000 The guy that always brought the information to Starsky and Hutch?
00:01:58.000 Yes.
00:01:58.000 Well, that's you now, Alex.
00:02:00.000 So you're our Huggy Bear.
00:02:02.000 Well, I'm honored to be your huggy bear.
00:02:06.000 You've not been able to talk about the show till now.
00:02:08.000 They've unleashed you.
00:02:10.000 You barely talked about it on Larry King Live last week.
00:02:14.000 But now you've been given the green light to give people a foretaste or an idea of what's going to be in the seven episodes.
00:02:24.000 And so we're all ears, Governor.
00:02:25.000 I mean, tell us about some of the episodes.
00:02:27.000 Well, first of all, when I went on Larry, it was because, you know, it was election night and Larry truly wanted my opinion on the latest off-year elections, which I'll do this right now.
00:02:40.000 To me, why do they even have off-year elections?
00:02:43.000 It's hard enough to get people out there to vote.
00:02:46.000 Have them all on here.
00:02:47.000 They do that so that they get a small voter turnout because it's easier to control small numbers.
00:02:53.000 And so that's why that happens, pretty much.
00:02:55.000 But that being said, that's why I was on Larry was mainly for the election stuff, not so much a promotion of the show, because I'll be going back on Larry later on the end of the month, right when it gets to the debut date, which of course is December the 2nd on the True Channel.
00:03:13.000 I don't want to stop you.
00:03:15.000 And so I'll be going back on Larry then.
00:03:18.000 And at that point in time, it'll be a promo for the show.
00:03:21.000 So I just did Larry where they promoted a little bit, but it was mostly on voting.
00:03:25.000 Or on the vote election.
00:03:27.000 Governor, hold on.
00:03:28.000 We're about to go to break, and I don't want to stop you.
00:03:31.000 I want you to have free flow and go over as much as you can tell us about the episodes.
00:03:34.000 Because I've consulted some, but I still only have a few pieces of the overall puzzle.
00:03:39.000 And I know that you've stated that you believe this is fair.
00:03:42.000 And from our perspective, probably the first television show ever that's actually from people who questions perspective.
00:03:49.000 That doesn't mean that you or I or anybody buys all of what's being said out there.
00:03:53.000 So I want to talk about that when we come back in just a minute.
00:03:56.000 But in the one minute we've got, what is your take on Republicans sweeping all over the country and Obama's plunging approval rating?
00:04:04.000 Well, I don't think it's so much Republicans sweeping.
00:04:08.000 As you know, they lost that congressional race up in that heavily Republican district in New York that hadn't gotten Democrats.
00:04:15.000 Yeah, but the Democrats threw that.
00:04:17.000 They threw that.
00:04:17.000 I mean, they had their... Well, maybe so.
00:04:19.000 Well, to me, the elections are truly irrelevant.
00:04:22.000 And as far as Obama's ratings falling, that's a natural occurrence.
00:04:28.000 You know, I don't want to throw water on the fire or anything for those people, you know, for whatever reason.
00:04:34.000 I, at one time, had 72% approval ratings.
00:04:38.000 Well, certainly by the time you get out of office, mine actually dipped below 50 later.
00:04:44.000 No, no, you're right!
00:04:45.000 When you have to make hard decisions, when you make those hard decisions, some people aren't going to like it, and a lot of people are one-issue people.
00:04:55.000 Jesse, we've got a break.
00:04:57.000 We've got a break.
00:04:58.000 Stay right there.
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00:07:56.000 Um... Big Brother.
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00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.
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00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:22.000 Well, surf's up, ladies and gentlemen, and here comes Jesse Ventura into the Info War.
00:08:29.000 Coming up in early December, the launch of his long-awaited television show conspiracy theory on true tv here to tell us dates and times and inside the tales first on this radio show when jesse called me back friday evening and said okay i'll do your show first i was extremely honored and so governor i really do appreciate uh you coming here first to talk about it i know the media blitz starts later today and tomorrow uh but we but we were finishing up when you got cut off by that break
00:08:58.000 you were talking about you're not surprised obama's approval ratings dropped yours went from the mid-70s to the high 40s and but but that was four years later my issue yeah that's true alex but it's gonna happen you know that the The honeymoon wears off, the hard decisions have to be made.
00:09:17.000 People many times disagree with those tough decisions, and your approval rating starts to fall.
00:09:23.000 The positive for me, the way I always looked at it, was like this.
00:09:26.000 I was in a three-way race, not a two-way race.
00:09:31.000 I won with only 37%.
00:09:32.000 So even if my approval say fell all the way to 45, that was still 8 points higher than what I won with.
00:09:40.000 with sure and george w bush's went from 92 uh to 39 but again that took seven he had to have been lower than 39 yeah some approval ratings had him at 25 I mean, there's so many polls.
00:09:56.000 Well, I would guess he would tie with the hardcore Republicans.
00:09:59.000 In the end, I can't see him even getting over 30% approval rating.
00:10:05.000 That's just a political gift from his party.
00:10:09.000 Exactly.
00:10:09.000 I know that the overall Congress, both parties, had an 11% when he left office, and it's now going back down that direction again.
00:10:16.000 My point is, Obama's approval rating has broken records, according to the major pollsters, for falling the fastest in the first year of a new administration.
00:10:25.000 And now he's losing his base.
00:10:28.000 CBS News last night reported he is putting in 40,000 more troops in Afghanistan.
00:10:34.000 And Jesse, I know you've researched this and are well-read on this subject.
00:10:37.000 Let's talk about this right now and then get into the show.
00:10:40.000 There's 12 times the opium, 12 times coming out of Afghanistan, of what was coming out 8 years ago, and even the BBC admits our troops are guarding the opium so, quote, the Taliban doesn't get it.
00:10:53.000 No, that's so the banks can launder $500 billion in smack every year.
00:10:57.000 Governor Ventura, your take on this war?
00:10:58.000 Well, to me, welcome in my lifetime now.
00:11:03.000 How wonderful it is.
00:11:05.000 Welcome to another Vietnam.
00:11:09.000 It's that simple.
00:11:10.000 It's going to accomplish nothing.
00:11:12.000 Guys are going to die over there on a constant basis as they have in Iraq.
00:11:18.000 And, you know, welcome to another Vietnam.
00:11:21.000 When this is all over and done with, I do it right now, Alex.
00:11:26.000 I sit back and go, how is Jesse Ventura benefiting from these two wars?
00:11:34.000 And I can't think of a thing.
00:11:36.000 And yet, we've got people out there protesting whether people should be able to go see a doctor or not.
00:11:42.000 If we wouldn't have fought these two wars, we'd have plenty of money for healthcare, wouldn't we?
00:11:50.000 Absolutely!
00:11:52.000 And my point is, wars are the most destructive thing mankind can do.
00:12:00.000 And when he engages in them, it has no benefit.
00:12:04.000 It's like Herman Goering said, the best thing a farmer can get out of a war is to be able to come back on the same farm he left before the war started.
00:12:14.000 That's the best outcome.
00:12:16.000 The very best.
00:12:17.000 There will be nothing more than that.
00:12:20.000 And when is this country going to wake up?
00:12:24.000 You know?
00:12:25.000 I sit back and I'm appalled.
00:12:28.000 I can't say I'm speechless because I'm bitching about it right now.
00:12:32.000 But I cannot believe that people aren't protesting these wars and now we're sending more troops in to accomplish what?
00:12:41.000 The Russians couldn't win there and we're so stupid and our ego is so powerful that we think we can?
00:12:51.000 They can't win the state of objective to bring democracy and freedom to Afghanistan, but if the objective is to destabilize the region and have bases to menace Iran and China, and if the state of objective, you know, the real objective is to launder drug proceeds, then it's mission accomplished.
00:13:09.000 They just need to sit there.
00:13:10.000 Well, if that's indeed what it is, Alex, then you will be, you're absolutely correct.
00:13:15.000 It's mission accomplished.
00:13:16.000 If that's what they're accomplishing out of this, I can't prove that that's what they are or aren't doing at this time, but certainly from a base perspective of Jesse Ventura, American citizen, I don't understand how I benefit by these wars one bit or any of the rest of us benefit by them one bit.
00:13:35.000 Okay, here's an example, then we'll get into the TV show.
00:13:37.000 Sure.
00:13:37.000 I know you've been busy with, you know, producing the television show and flying all over the country, and we'll talk about that.
00:13:43.000 You are really working hard on this.
00:13:44.000 A lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of money.
00:13:47.000 Harder than I wanted.
00:13:51.000 But at the same time, it came out two weeks ago, New York Times, that Mohammed Karzai's brother is the head opium kingpin in Afghanistan.
00:14:00.000 And that he is a CIA operative on CIA payroll, and that basically so is Mohammed Karzai, and that our troops are guarding his poppy fields.
00:14:10.000 And I was driving down the road a few months ago and heard BBC report the same thing before the New York Times did, and I already knew that!
00:14:18.000 But to hear them report that, oh, we guard the opium because if we don't guard it, another Taliban group will get it and then they'll get too much power.
00:14:26.000 That's what they're telling the troops.
00:14:27.000 We guard the opium to win the war.
00:14:29.000 You know the CIA got caught with opium in In Southeast Asia and Vietnam.
00:14:35.000 We're now in Colombia putting bases in.
00:14:37.000 Anywhere there's drugs, our troops are there to eradicate the other guy's drugs and protect the drug kingpins that launder their money through U.S.
00:14:48.000 and European banks.
00:14:49.000 And add to that the fact that that's how the CIA gets their revenue so that they can then do operations that they can keep away from Congress.
00:15:00.000 Because if they have to do operations that require them to get money from our tax money, then they have to be forward enough to let Congress know what they're doing with the money.
00:15:11.000 But if they're getting money via illegal drugs, and making all sorts of money out of that end of the world, they then don't have to declare any of that to Congress, and that's when they can do these dirty jobs that the American public will never know about.
00:15:28.000 Governor Jesse Ventura, that is the nail on the head.
00:15:31.000 Absolutely.
00:15:32.000 I hadn't even thought to make that point.
00:15:34.000 All those tens of billions in unaccountable money that these private... That's how they run their operations, so that they don't have to be accountable to the Congress.
00:15:44.000 Absolutely.
00:15:44.000 In fact, in 96, that came out on C-SPAN with the CIA Inspector General testifying that the CIA brought in the crack cocaine epidemic.
00:15:58.000 Well, that I don't know.
00:16:00.000 If you know about that, Alex, I don't.
00:16:02.000 I can only speak to what I know about.
00:16:06.000 You're better well read on it than I am.
00:16:10.000 Well no, I mean, you know as much or more than I do.
00:16:12.000 You just brought up the key point that they're funding their black operations with this.
00:16:16.000 Oh yeah, no, I've felt that and known that for a long, long time.
00:16:20.000 That that's the simple way to do it.
00:16:22.000 That's how you keep it out of the public eye.
00:16:25.000 That's how you can get money to do political assassinations like in the old days when they used to attempt to kill Castro.
00:16:32.000 Okay, I'm going to shut up.
00:16:33.000 If they do that, if they get money from Congress, then they have to submit reports and it has to be far more above board.
00:16:41.000 But if they get the money from somewhere else, which can be dirty drug money, well then they can spend it on any operations they want to do and they don't have to be accountable to the American public or the Congress for it.
00:16:54.000 Absolutely.
00:16:54.000 Governor, we've got you here to talk about the TV show, so I'm going to stop getting off on other issues.
00:16:58.000 I apologize, but it's always interesting to hear your truthful perspective, because you're absolutely right on those issues.
00:17:05.000 Where to start with the TV show?
00:17:08.000 I mean, I've seen the one promo clip where you went out to harp, and they threatened to arrest you, and then suddenly the equipment went dead.
00:17:16.000 Let's go through the seven episodes and give people an idea what's coming up.
00:17:19.000 Well, hopefully I can remember them all.
00:17:22.000 I'll tell you, it was so hectic shooting them that sometimes I had to jump from one episode to another episode.
00:17:31.000 And that plays games with your mind because you're focused in on one thing and then, you know, the next half a day you might be doing something for a completely different episode.
00:17:41.000 Let me ask this.
00:17:43.000 What's your favorite episode?
00:17:45.000 I would say my favorite one would be 9-11, because I think 9-11 was the original one that I took the two TV people to sell them on the show, and so it was personal to me because of my investigation of it so far.
00:18:01.000 So I would have to say that that one is the most satisfying, although they all are, pretty much.
00:18:07.000 And I'll put it to you this way, the way that I'm going to explain it is quite simple, Alex.
00:18:12.000 People can choose to believe the conspiracies or not, all seven of these, and they're all fairly modern day.
00:18:19.000 The one thing True Channel wanted to do, we don't go back to Kennedy, we don't go back, they wanted to keep this first series within the last decade, pretty much.
00:18:29.000 And you can choose to believe them or you can choose not to believe them, but I'll guarantee you this, if you watch this show, you're gonna get scared.
00:18:39.000 Even if they're not true, there is still the element that they may be, they might be, and they could be.
00:18:48.000 And maybe they are.
00:18:50.000 And that should be enough to wake people up and scare them.
00:18:53.000 This is the first show that I've ever done in my career where I got scared.
00:18:58.000 And I don't get scared easy.
00:19:01.000 I remember a few weeks ago, I ran into you and we were checking in at the hotel, and you walked up and you were shaking your head and you said, Alex.
00:19:08.000 You were there with your son Tyrell, who's working on the show as well, doing a great job.
00:19:12.000 You walked up and you said, Alex, when I go to bed at night, my head's spinning with all this information.
00:19:17.000 This stuff is scary.
00:19:18.000 Oh yeah.
00:19:19.000 No, we went into some places that you think is only fantasy land, but it could very well be reality land.
00:19:29.000 It's stuff that people don't even think about, don't deal with in their daily lives.
00:19:34.000 That's one of the main things is people People out there have to earn a living, they have to make a living for their families, so they haven't got time to go delving into the underhanded stuff that government might be doing.
00:19:46.000 It's interesting, Alex, that we started this show with the concept that we were going to show both sides of the conspiracy, and then allow the viewer to make a choice at the end of which one he or she would choose to believe.
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00:24:18.000 Alright, going back to Governor Jesse Ventura.
00:24:20.000 This is a short segment, long segment coming up.
00:24:23.000 He'll be with us a little bit into the next hour.
00:24:25.000 We're going to open the phones up specifically only for Governor Jesse Ventura at 1-800-259-9231.
00:24:31.000 Quick question or comment for the Governor coming up.
00:24:36.000 Okay, you got cut off again by the satellite.
00:24:39.000 I think it's going to break.
00:24:40.000 Start over, start over Governor with the point that you were making about the TV show.
00:24:46.000 Actually, Alex, we started off to do the show with the concept that both sides of the conspiracy would be told, if there were two sides.
00:24:54.000 Many times there may be multiple sides.
00:24:57.000 But the two major sides, and then we'd let the viewer decide.
00:25:00.000 Well, then the show had to go through a metamorphosis, if you will, or an evolution, whatever you want to call it, because when one side does not cooperate one bit, it is pretty hard to tell their story.
00:25:13.000 And that was the case of the United States government.
00:25:16.000 I did an interview the other day, a print interview, and the person asked me, and I said, well, you know, the government hasn't cooperated at all.
00:25:25.000 And they said, this includes when Obama's taken over.
00:25:28.000 I said, there's been no difference.
00:25:30.000 I said it hasn't made one bit of difference, because we started the show, George Bush was still the president, and the show's been in the works, and I've been working on it for a year now, basically, or better.
00:25:41.000 And the government cooperated nothing.
00:25:45.000 Zero.
00:25:46.000 Zilch.
00:25:47.000 We could not even get a spokesperson out for the government.
00:25:50.000 Well, we do get a few former government people who are now no longer working for the government, who had courage enough to come out and talk to us and offer their opinions.
00:26:00.000 But no one under the government would cooperate with this show at all.
00:26:04.000 So then the show became simply more of the other side of the conspiracy being told, and now the viewer gets to see an alternative to what the government has pumped out in many occasions on the different conspiracies that they're involved with.
00:26:19.000 And by the way, we've got Governor Jesse Ventura with us talking about the new TV show that's coming up in December and January called Conspiracy Theory on TruTV.
00:26:28.000 Again, Jesse Ventura is our guest.
00:26:30.000 How much can you tell us about the 9-11 episode?
00:26:33.000 Because I know that more and more as you went out and tried to talk to them, no one would.
00:26:39.000 And Jesse Ventura, Navy SEAL, Governor, fighter is a lot more intimidating and a lot more effective than when Michael Moore, and I'm not against Michael Moore, kind of ninnies around.
00:26:51.000 I mean, this is some dynamic confrontations.
00:26:54.000 In many ways, Michael Moore probably got more cooperation than I got.
00:26:59.000 Well, let folks in a little bit.
00:27:02.000 I got none.
00:27:03.000 I got none.
00:27:05.000 When it came to 9-11, no one from the government would talk to the show.
00:27:10.000 No one from the 9-11 Commission would talk.
00:27:13.000 No one representing any type of government agency would talk.
00:27:17.000 You know, I don't want to wreck the show by saying what we did and where we did it and do all that because I want people to watch the show.
00:27:25.000 The show came about like this.
00:27:28.000 A victim came to me.
00:27:31.000 And a victim pleaded with me, a victim who lost her daughter and her potential grandchild.
00:27:39.000 Her daughter was pregnant and she died the day, the infamous day of 9-11.
00:27:45.000 And her mom, you know, came to me feeling that I was the person with this show who could bring to light the fact that we need a real investigation of 9-11.
00:27:56.000 and not the one that they did.
00:27:57.000 And so it's a natural progression.
00:28:00.000 Then when it's brought to me, the next person I want to talk to is someone who is there, someone who actually went through 9-11, which we were able to do also in the show.
00:28:11.000 And then from there, the progression goes to someone who was there during the cleanup, the almost 300 days that it took to clean up the mess and what went on there.
00:28:22.000 Did an investigation occur there?
00:28:24.000 We have the person who identified and saw the black boxes, which, of course, the government tells us were not found.
00:28:32.000 Unbelievable.
00:28:33.000 unbelievable Again, I don't want to give away too much, but... Well, I want people to watch.
00:28:37.000 That's why I'm just going to talk.
00:28:39.000 I'm not going to give specifics of the show, Alex, because I want everyone to enjoy the show, and I won't narrate it before it goes on the air.
00:28:48.000 No, no, no, that's... I mean, you're giving us a lot here, and I know a lot of the inside baseball, and obviously I'm sworn to secrecy.
00:28:55.000 I'm just telling folks, I'm surprised you're able to get this on air, Jesse, because...
00:29:00.000 Well, Alex, it ain't on yet.
00:29:01.000 I've got...
00:29:05.000 I made a gentleman's bet at the start of this show that it would never see air.
00:29:11.000 I felt we would complete them all, but I felt strongly that at some point in time someone wouldn't allow it, and so far it's full steam ahead.
00:29:21.000 Now, we do have to wait until December 2nd, because that's the airing again of the first show, which is, you know, that's a couple weeks away yet, three weeks away.
00:29:31.000 In fact, I remember in October, You were in my car, we were driving around in the hill country and you said, Alex, we're going to find out of this airs because I'm going to do this from my perspective and be fair.
00:29:43.000 We're going to see what happens.
00:29:44.000 And you've put incredible work into it.
00:29:47.000 And now you've just upped the bar again, saying we'll see.
00:29:50.000 We're on the march.
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00:32:56.000 Well, former Minnesota governor, former
00:33:13.000 former Minnesota governor, former MSNBC host, former top wrestler, Hollywood former MSNBC host, former top wrestler, Hollywood movie star, author, best-selling author, multiple times over, and surfer, Jesse Ventura joins The surf is up.
00:33:28.000 He is here.
00:33:28.000 Okay, let's go through this then.
00:33:30.000 Wait a minute, Alex.
00:33:31.000 How's the surf since that storm has hit Alabama down there?
00:33:36.000 I hear that there is a huge surf down at the Gulf right now.
00:33:36.000 You know what?
00:33:40.000 And every time I go down there, there's surfers everywhere.
00:33:42.000 Well, I should be down there right now, doggone it.
00:33:45.000 Why don't you just jump on an airplane, fly... Listen, you can fly to Corpus Christi in two hours from Minnesota, and three and a half, four hours from now, you could be on the beach in 12-foot swells.
00:33:57.000 Well, I'll tell you, that's very tempting, but unfortunately, I've got too much publicity to do.
00:34:04.000 Well, it'd be tomorrow anyway, and so I got publicity all day tomorrow.
00:34:11.000 Today I couldn't get there in time, so it'd have to be tomorrow, but oh well, we'll pass on it this time.
00:34:16.000 I'm certain there'll be more storms, especially after learning about HAARP.
00:34:19.000 Absolutely.
00:34:21.000 I had the director of HAARP on one time, and he admitted, oh, we turn the atmosphere on fire with it at night.
00:34:27.000 He starts laughing, and then somebody on the line cut the line off.
00:34:32.000 And my producer saw this, and during the break, an Air Force officer came on and said, you can't talk about that anymore.
00:34:38.000 So the military was bossing the civilian scientific head of HAARP around.
00:34:44.000 Well, what's interesting, and of course for those that don't know what HAARP is, HAARP is way up in Alaska, and that's one of the shows we go up to visit it and photograph it.
00:34:53.000 And it's a group of about 180 radio antennas that all shoot 50,000 watts of energy up into the biosphere.
00:35:02.000 I should say of low frequency sounds up into the biosphere, which does cause a heating.
00:35:09.000 Now Alex, let me ask you this.
00:35:12.000 Could that possibly contribute to global warming?
00:35:16.000 Absolutely!
00:35:17.000 In fact, the scientists we've interviewed... This could be much more contributor of global warming than us driving our cars around.
00:35:26.000 Well, as you know, Secretary of Defense Cohen in 97 admitted to the Army Times they did have weather weapons then, and I've interviewed the former father of weather weapons, Ben Livingston, And clearly, I believe this is a false flag attack.
00:35:39.000 We have had a lot of strange weather, and that naturally occurs, but there's been a lot of... Well, that's gonna be, that's the opening show, Alex.
00:35:47.000 The opening show, December 2nd, is on HAARP, and I think people are gonna find it a very interesting show.
00:35:53.000 I went all the way up to Alaska, and went to this location, and we jumped into a helicopter, and bear this in mind, this thing could knock airplanes out of the air.
00:36:07.000 And, uh, it's a very interesting thing going on up there.
00:36:13.000 It's, the government, it falls under, let me put it this way, it falls under the military, the Air Force.
00:36:19.000 And yet, it is given the distinction of being an unclassified research center, yet I was not allowed in.
00:36:27.000 Now, bear in mind, I used to have a top-secret security clearance with the United States government.
00:36:33.000 During my six years as a member of Underwater Demolition Team 12 and Seal Team 1, I was also a mayor and a governor, and yet I was not allowed to go into this supposed unclassified research center.
00:36:49.000 If it's unclassified, anybody should be able to go in there.
00:36:55.000 Well, that's a good point.
00:36:56.000 Jesse, on this specific subject, we can get into more detail because this has been released to the media.
00:37:03.000 I want to play this clip and then ask you about it.
00:37:05.000 This is a one-minute clip of Governor Jesse Ventura being stopped at the gates.
00:37:10.000 He's about to just, I guess, bull his way on in there and suddenly...
00:37:16.000 The equipment goes dead.
00:37:17.000 And I talked to the crew.
00:37:18.000 This really happened.
00:37:21.000 So they were using some type of electronic warfare jamming system.
00:37:26.000 Here it is, ladies and gentlemen.
00:37:27.000 We really need to go through the Air Force.
00:37:29.000 Well, we did.
00:37:30.000 We got stonewalled.
00:37:31.000 And this is strictly a research facility.
00:37:34.000 Clearly, there's something going on here that they don't want people to know about.
00:37:38.000 There's a lot of cool science that we do with this facility.
00:37:41.000 I'm a Navy SEAL.
00:37:41.000 Come on, man.
00:37:43.000 The military don't do things unless it has a military purpose, and a military purpose is destruction and waging war.
00:37:51.000 It's a stalemate.
00:37:52.000 Or is it?
00:37:54.000 Back up a little bit from the gate so when people come through, they don't feel intimidated.
00:37:58.000 When I get denied something, I do the opposite of getting intimidated.
00:38:02.000 I get angry.
00:38:03.000 Jesse is about to walk right on through, when suddenly... Buzz off.
00:38:07.000 There you go, guys.
00:38:07.000 I got a problem.
00:38:08.000 There's an interruptive interference.
00:38:11.000 The camera equipment begins to go haywire.
00:38:17.000 Something is interfering with the audio and video.
00:38:21.000 This is more than unclassified.
00:38:22.000 That's bullshit.
00:38:26.000 Alright, now that was, that aired on CNN.
00:38:29.000 The potty language was cut out.
00:38:30.000 But I don't blame the governor under that bizarre stress.
00:38:35.000 So, tell us what you can about the Harp episode, because this is amazing.
00:38:39.000 Well, you know, we were denied access, as I said, and you know, even though the security clearances I've had in my life, and holding the position of governor, I guess, Alex, the only way I guess I can get in there is to run and get re-elected to something again.
00:38:55.000 You know, then maybe I would be high enough in the government that they would let me in and see what they're doing there, but that aside, uh, and then we did have some problem now.
00:39:06.000 It made it seem, I don't know what caused our cameras to go bad.
00:39:10.000 I do, I am not going to specifically sit here and say that they jammed them, that they did something to them.
00:39:16.000 I will simply state that our audio and our visual did have some problems while we were outside the gate.
00:39:23.000 Who or what was responsible, we never were sure of.
00:39:28.000 We never were sure or positively found out.
00:39:31.000 But to be specific, and correct me if I'm wrong, because I was just talking to some of the crew while we were shooting separately back in Los Angeles, they said that multiple cameras and audio and on the digital recordings, it was even distorting.
00:39:44.000 I mean, this wasn't just one rig to have separate malfunctions, the same malfunctions.
00:39:51.000 You're talking about one in a billion, one in a trillion?
00:39:54.000 I mean, this is bizarre.
00:39:56.000 I don't know.
00:39:56.000 I don't know.
00:39:58.000 But all I can say is that we did run into complications, and what caused them or why, we were never able to ascertain.
00:40:06.000 But you know, and then later on, all the equipment later worked fine, and we never had any more problem with it the rest of the shoot.
00:40:15.000 Well, I want to say, clearly on the record, that From the scientists we've interviewed, HAARP is designed to be a weapon.
00:40:24.000 It can heat the atmosphere.
00:40:25.000 It can direct those huge rivers of vapor, of condensation, of water as weapons.
00:40:34.000 And the Chinese brag, the Russians brag, you can hire their government-funded companies to control the weather for you.
00:40:42.000 Let's remember something, too, Alex.
00:40:43.000 There were treaties signed back in the 1970s that governments would not use weather or nature for war.
00:40:53.000 And we were one of the people that signed these treaties.
00:40:57.000 And I think that's an important issue right here.
00:41:00.000 If we sign treaties that we won't use things, we won't use nature to permit war, and then we might very well be violating the very treaties we've signed.
00:41:12.000 Well that's a great point and you made the point to me privately that, well Alex, why are we signing treaties for weather weapons if they don't exist?
00:41:21.000 That's true also.
00:41:24.000 So, you know, and I think people are also going to enjoy, there's another part of HAARP that we haven't mentioned today that will be the most terrifying of anything we've talked about, and I'm going to leave that up in the air, because HAARP is going to be, to my knowledge, the first episode December 2nd, again, I'll shamelessly promote it 10 o'clock Eastern, 9 o'clock Central on the True Channel.
00:41:48.000 HAARP will be the first episode to my knowledge.
00:41:51.000 If they change it, then I don't know about it.
00:41:53.000 And there is something in HAARP beyond what we've even talked about, Alex, that is more terrifying than what we have talked about.
00:42:01.000 And I know what it is, but I'm going to keep my mouth shut.
00:42:04.000 This is coming up.
00:42:06.000 You know, finishing up before we get into the other episodes, During the break we were talking, you're saying you made the bet with your crew, and I remember you telling me privately in the car, you said, we'll see if it's going to air.
00:42:18.000 I don't think it will, but we'll see.
00:42:20.000 I'm going to try.
00:42:21.000 Well, I did a gentleman's bet with my crew and cast, basically.
00:42:25.000 I said, I bet you, no money involved, just a gentleman's bet, that we will complete all of these.
00:42:32.000 We will do all seven episodes.
00:42:35.000 Uh, and we'll finish the ball, but I said I still don't believe they will see the light of day that they will be aired.
00:42:42.000 And so far I'm losing the gentleman's bet, but there's still about three weeks to go and I hope that I do lose it.
00:42:49.000 I do not want, and I'm a competitive person, I do not like to lose anything, but I'm hoping that I lose this bet.
00:42:58.000 I don't want to win this bet.
00:43:01.000 Well, I hope that you do lose the bet as well, because I've been involved in a few TV productions.
00:43:08.000 One of them... This way, Alex.
00:43:09.000 If it doesn't see the light of day, this show, that we've completed, then I need to come back on your show and we need to ask why.
00:43:19.000 We need to, at that point, start addressing, I believe, the First Amendment.
00:43:24.000 I agree with you.
00:43:26.000 Well, I don't see how they're going to air something that's more than fair from our perspective.
00:43:31.000 And from what I've seen, and I know you're an honorable person, this is an extremely fair leaning towards our perspective.
00:43:38.000 Because as you said, you couldn't get the other side to come out and debate.
00:43:43.000 There's nothing but stonewalling.
00:43:46.000 We couldn't even get them to come out and make a comment.
00:43:50.000 The government wouldn't talk to us, plain and simple.
00:43:53.000 They wouldn't talk on HAARP.
00:43:55.000 They wouldn't talk on 9-11.
00:43:57.000 They wouldn't talk on anything that involved the government and their involvement in any type of conspiracy or whatever the conspiracy is.
00:44:06.000 You cannot get anyone from government to participate or talk in any manner.
00:44:11.000 It's that simple.
00:44:13.000 And people need to understand, that's the scary thing.
00:44:16.000 Overwhelmingly scary thing about doing this whole show is the fact that government doesn't have to cooperate.
00:44:24.000 They act like we work for them.
00:44:27.000 And I believe they've forgotten something and we've forgotten something.
00:44:30.000 They work for us.
00:44:32.000 That's the way it's supposed to be.
00:44:34.000 But in this country, I believe those roles have switched now.
00:44:38.000 And the government views us working for them rather than the way it's supposed to be.
00:44:44.000 Well, that's just an incredible point that things really are backwards now in this nation, in this country.
00:44:52.000 And if they do allow this to go on television, which it looks like it's going to happen, is that that the system is so arrogant that they don't even care if we know the truth now?
00:45:02.000 I'm seeing George Soros and Al Gore and Ban Ki-moon of the UN openly say we're going under world government, openly saying it's a new world order, openly stating it's about population reduction.
00:45:14.000 One child policy, LA Times reports there's going to be a tax on owning a dog or cat because they eat meat, which has a carbon footprint.
00:45:23.000 You've got the global warming episode, we're going to talk about that.
00:45:26.000 I mean, they're really coming out in the open.
00:45:27.000 So is it that they don't have total control of the media, and so you're getting through the chink in the armor?
00:45:34.000 Or is it they're so arrogant now, they don't care if Governor Ventura goes out and tells you how screwed you are?
00:45:40.000 They might even sit back and, you know, roast some marshmallows and laugh at us.
00:45:44.000 I don't know, Alex.
00:45:45.000 I'm not in contact with any of these quote-unquote people, so I have no idea.
00:45:51.000 Oh, by the way, yeah, global warming is the last one that I list to you of the, uh, we do a, is global warming a conspiracy?
00:45:59.000 Yeah, we were both here trying to remember all seven episodes, and finally it came to me, so I thought I'd shout it out.
00:46:04.000 Well, you got it right there, because that was the seventh one that I, like I said, when I shot these things, they were not in sequence, always.
00:46:13.000 And so it can get pretty confusing.
00:46:15.000 It was a lot like governing, where you go from one meeting, one hour, to a completely different meeting the next hour.
00:46:21.000 No, no, I know it makes your head spin, especially when you're really into the minutia.
00:46:26.000 Let's get into 2012, then we'll get into secret societies, Manchurian Canada, Big Brother, and global warming.
00:46:32.000 2012, obviously, three days from now, On Friday, the huge movie is coming out where Woody Harrelson kind of plays the conspiracy theory type.
00:46:44.000 I know Harrelson, so we're trying to get him on the show.
00:46:46.000 In fact, that may happen.
00:46:48.000 But what's your whole take on the real 2012 and the serious, in-depth research you did?
00:46:54.000 And then separately in the show, I know you get into Without saying too much, whether it's real or not, the elite think it's real, and they are getting ready.
00:47:03.000 I mean, to me, I think, in fact, I wish I was in that episode.
00:47:06.000 I've been told I'm not.
00:47:07.000 To me, that's going to be one of the hottest episodes.
00:47:09.000 Well, it is.
00:47:11.000 And let me just put it this way, and again, I'm not going to go in and make it so people won't watch by telling everything that happens.
00:47:20.000 But it goes far beyond, let me say this, the Mayan calendar.
00:47:26.000 Now, the Mayans were very intelligent people way ahead of their time when it came to understanding the planets and the solar system and the heavens.
00:47:36.000 They truly were, because I've learned this.
00:47:38.000 Even with all of our modern technology today, the Mayans are right on.
00:47:43.000 Our technology, for the most part, cannot prove them wrong.
00:47:48.000 Under most things.
00:47:50.000 So here you had a culture that took place many, many, many years ago that was very, very bright when it came to space.
00:47:59.000 And this 2012 show goes beyond the Mayan calendar.
00:48:04.000 It goes to some things that we know are actually real and completely backed up by NASA.
00:48:11.000 And that's where I'll leave it, right there, because I want people intrigued, I want them to watch the show, and the show will be on long before 2012 arrives.
00:48:21.000 Are you, knowing what you now know, doing the deep research, are you concerned about 2012?
00:48:26.000 I'm concerned, yeah, I'm concerned over the things that I have learned, yes, I'm very concerned over them.
00:48:34.000 And later on when the show is all air, Alex, and I don't have to try to intrigue a listening audience anymore, I'll be glad to come back on the show and openly talk about what concerns me after it airs.
00:48:49.000 Absolutely.
00:48:49.000 That'd be a great radio interview.
00:48:50.000 And also talk about how much hit the cutting room floor.
00:48:53.000 You guys have done a ton of work.
00:48:55.000 I mean, they've been working your butt off.
00:48:57.000 Oh, week to week.
00:48:58.000 Yeah, I've been here.
00:49:00.000 You know how it works in the country, Alex?
00:49:02.000 When you try to retire and quit, that's when your agent finds your jobs.
00:49:08.000 But when you're looking for the jobs for 20 years, they can't find you anything.
00:49:12.000 No, I've been to LA so many times I can't remember since summer.
00:49:18.000 I've been to Anchorage, Alaska.
00:49:19.000 I've been to San Francisco.
00:49:21.000 I've been to Oklahoma City, Kansas City, New York multiple, multiple times.
00:49:27.000 And I've lost track of a few of the other places that I've been to.
00:49:31.000 But the most unique was the thing going up to Anchorage to learn about harp.
00:49:36.000 Absolutely.
00:49:38.000 And again, I'm Huggy Bear.
00:49:39.000 Let me interject, Alex, of which I, up until about four months ago, I didn't even know what H.A.R.P.
00:49:46.000 was.
00:49:46.000 Didn't even know what it was.
00:49:50.000 This has been quite a journey for you.
00:49:51.000 I know your son began to really get you into this five, six years ago.
00:49:55.000 And obviously I gave you some films and that helped you along your journey.
00:49:59.000 And then you described it to me at the hotel that now it's like the top of your head's blown off.
00:50:04.000 The whole world's opening up and It's quite a journey, isn't it, Governor?
00:50:08.000 Well, it sure is, and the exciting thing that I'll tell people when people say to me, why do I like to study this?
00:50:14.000 Why do I like to look at it?
00:50:16.000 Because these are things that very well can be real.
00:50:20.000 And when you read a writer like, say, Tom Clancy or Vince Flynn, they're marvelous books, but they're simply figments of their imagination.
00:50:30.000 They're carrying you through on their imaginary trip.
00:50:34.000 I would rather look into and read about real history and hopefully get educated on it so that we're not stupid enough to allow ourselves to repeat it, which over and over I see it happening.
00:50:48.000 Our stupidity is just unbelievable how we can be duped over and over again.
00:50:53.000 Absolutely.
00:50:54.000 I mean, really, a conspiracy theorist is someone with an alternative history view.
00:50:58.000 We'll be right back.
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00:54:23.000 Big Jesse Ventura is our guest.
00:54:27.000 Amen.
00:54:28.000 Governor, one more time for people tuning in and getting this exclusive first look at the TV show that, believe me, is going to be powerful, folks.
00:54:35.000 Tell them when the seven episodes are going to air, how they tune in, how they watch it.
00:54:41.000 Well, it'll be on the True Network, which used to be Cork Television.
00:54:45.000 It's located, if you've got the satellite, I think it's right in between TBS and TNT.
00:54:52.000 It's the station in between if you're on the direct dish satellite or whatever it is.
00:54:57.000 But, you know, check whatever.
00:54:59.000 And anyway, the first show will air Wednesday, December 2nd, and it'll be 10 o'clock Eastern, 9 o'clock Central.
00:55:07.000 And it's a one-hour show.
00:55:09.000 We're doing seven conspiracies.
00:55:11.000 And naturally, I'd like to say this.
00:55:13.000 Can we get completely into the conspiracies and everything about them?
00:55:17.000 Absolutely not.
00:55:18.000 You can never do that in an hour.
00:55:20.000 So we focus on just certain portions of the conspiracy, which I think people will find it, especially your listening audience, Alex, are going to find it very interesting.
00:55:32.000 And so it's going to be airing every Wednesday in December and January, or are they going to skip one on Christmas?
00:55:39.000 I have no idea.
00:55:40.000 I'll be gone surfing at that time, and I'll leave all of you up here to take the repercussions from it.
00:55:49.000 What are you going to do if I come parachuting in when you're out there surfing?
00:55:52.000 Well, then I'll know everything hit the fan up here, because I know that if you're not doing your daily radio show, then the United States don't exist anymore.
00:56:02.000 Now, is my bunker ready next to your bungalow?
00:56:06.000 I don't know.
00:56:07.000 You know, I'll tell you that Baja, my neighbor Fernando, he had to dig a 40-foot well down there and it took him six months, but it would have taken him a year had there been good waves.
00:56:20.000 Absolutely, absolutely.
00:56:22.000 Okay, we're going to come back and take phone calls, but right now let's get into the global warming episode.
00:56:27.000 Okay.
00:56:27.000 I mean, just give us a little taste of that.
00:56:29.000 Well, the big thing on global warming to me is this cap-and-trade legislation.
00:56:35.000 It's nothing but bait-and-switch.
00:56:38.000 It's a legislation that's designed to make money, not solve the problem.
00:56:43.000 And if global warming is indeed a problem, Then why is the solution simply money-making that does nothing to address the actual problem?
00:56:53.000 And that's the key of what we try to expose, and this is the cap-and-trade legislation for what it is.
00:56:59.000 And the fact that there are 30,000 people with PhDs and science degrees that simply are not buying into global warming, and it doesn't seem to be that they get any type of Their opinion is not being aired at all.
00:57:14.000 That's right.
00:57:14.000 It's a very one-sided opinion.
00:57:16.000 Well, yeah, when Al Gore says, all scientists agree it's man-made, and then you find out that actually the majority say it's driven by the sun and by nuclei from space causing cloud condensation.
00:57:28.000 I mean, I'm not going to give away who you interview in the film, but this is going to be a powerful death blow.
00:57:35.000 One more nail in the coffin against the Greenies that want to tax us.
00:57:38.000 I mean, it's come out that Al Gore has made over a billion bucks so far off this.
00:57:42.000 I mean, he owns a cap-and-trade company that you've got to buy carbon credits from.
00:57:47.000 I mean, how obvious is this?
00:57:49.000 Well, again, it comes down to the legislature.
00:57:52.000 I'm not a scientist, Alex, so I'm not going to beat my head against the wall on whether it's real or not.
00:57:58.000 But a good way to look at things is always view something not from what someone says, but from what someone does.
00:58:06.000 And the cap-and-trade legislation is fraudulent, because you can have a company that's supposedly polluting, they don't have to change at all.
00:58:16.000 They can simply pay money and buy other people's and trade, so that until they get under, and they'll still pollute the same, but then they'll be able to say that they're not.
00:58:27.000 Well, that right away is fraudulent.
00:58:29.000 And if that's fraudulent, then what else is fraudulent?
00:58:33.000 I tell you, that's a key point.
00:58:34.000 Take the weakest part of their argument, break their neck right there.
00:58:37.000 That's why we love you, Governor.
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00:59:57.000 Big Brother.
01:00:05.000 Mainstream media.
01:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.
01:00:09.000 You want answers?
01:00:10.000 Well, so does he.
01:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:00:22.000 All right, in this five minutes we're going to get into Secret Society's Manchurian Candidate and Big Brother.
01:00:30.000 The three episodes we haven't given you a little teaser on.
01:00:38.000 It premieres December 2nd, True TV.
01:00:41.000 Tell everybody about it, folks, because I think this is going to be the, not just fairest, but leaning towards our view of any television show ever on mainstream TV.
01:00:48.000 I think this is a bellwether because the establishment's beginning to realize that Well, I guess let's go Manchurian Candidate.
01:00:53.000 by never discussing this information.
01:00:55.000 So television's losing ratings and the internet's exploding.
01:00:58.000 Governor Jesse Ventura, getting into Manchurian Candidate, Secret Society's big brother.
01:01:05.000 What do you want to talk about first?
01:01:06.000 Well, I guess let's go Manchurian Candidate.
01:01:10.000 This one is going to be a very, this one is a very terrifying show.
01:01:16.000 We all know that MKUltra was reeled.
01:01:20.000 The documents state so.
01:01:21.000 So there's no gray area there that the government was in the business back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s of attempting to control people's minds and attempting to manipulate them and to use them to their advantage both militarily and whatever.
01:01:39.000 Well, all indications are that those programs have been re-ramped up again and they're back on a high level again.
01:01:46.000 And that being said, that's what the Manchurian candidate deals with, of course, and that we've all heard the story.
01:01:54.000 One of the interesting things I'll say is that the guy who shot John Lennon fits it perfectly, Mark David Chapman.
01:02:02.000 Because contrary to popular belief, Chapman was no Beatles fanatic.
01:02:08.000 If you go back in his history, in fact, his favorite artist was Todd Rundgren, who's hardly a Beatle.
01:02:14.000 And when he shot Lennon, he had three ways to escape immediately.
01:02:20.000 Central Park, down into the subways, and then just get lost with everybody.
01:02:24.000 Instead, he stepped back in the shadows and started reading the book, The Catcher in the Rye.
01:02:30.000 Which is a classic mind control.
01:02:32.000 When they tortured them under the drugs in one of the systems, they then become obsessed with the trigger word.
01:02:38.000 When McVeigh got pulled over, he said, get the chip out of me, and was foaming at the mouth.
01:02:42.000 And then the most famous mind control scientist ever, Jolion West, was his doctor with him every day until the day he was executed.
01:02:50.000 And I'll tell you this, Governor, studying the Fort Hood shooting, I can't say it was a mind control, but it has every earmark.
01:02:58.000 He's a psychiatrist.
01:02:59.000 The FBI and CIA were- Well, okay.
01:03:00.000 Funny you should say that, Alex, because amazingly, when it first happened, scarily, that's the first thing that popped into my head.
01:03:10.000 Unbelievable that you say that, because that's the exact first thing that popped into my head when I first heard about the Fort Hood shootings.
01:03:19.000 And when I started then reading about the whole situation, how the guy never had it in his background.
01:03:27.000 And then now the CIA and FBI are watching him and he has this fake history that suddenly began and then commanders and people said bust him and they wouldn't do it.
01:03:35.000 Same thing with 9-11.
01:03:36.000 Then he's a psychiatrist.
01:03:38.000 He has that whole history.
01:03:40.000 Once you've studied mind control, he just fits.
01:03:43.000 Every piece fits.
01:03:45.000 And I wouldn't say this last week.
01:03:46.000 I mean, I knew that was going on Thursday.
01:03:48.000 But now, more and more of the pieces are coming out and man, the hair on the back of my neck just stands up.
01:03:54.000 Anyway, enough Manchurian.
01:03:56.000 What are the last two shows?
01:03:58.000 Okay, we've got to go to break.
01:03:59.000 We're going to come back and briefly get into secret societies.
01:04:05.000 Big Brother watching.
01:04:07.000 Big Brother.
01:04:08.000 So we'll talk about that.
01:04:09.000 But, Governor, in the 45 seconds we've got, tell us about your book, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.
01:04:15.000 What about it?
01:04:18.000 Well, no, just how folks can get it.
01:04:19.000 It's been a best-seller.
01:04:20.000 Oh, no, I don't know.
01:04:21.000 It's still in the bookstores, and I guess you can get it over the internet.
01:04:25.000 I've been so involved in this thing, I haven't even thought about the book for months.
01:04:29.000 Well, I just wanted to plug your book, because it's a good book.
01:04:32.000 And it's still out there.
01:04:32.000 Oh, thank you.
01:04:34.000 I was actually in the Minneapolis airport the other day, and I saw copies there for sale.
01:04:38.000 So, it's a book that's got a lot of my heart and soul in it.
01:04:42.000 I wrote it on my trips to Mexico and all that.
01:04:46.000 And it includes my wife, and it tells you about my years in office, and it'll give you a great insight into how I think.
01:04:52.000 Absolutely.
01:04:53.000 Okay, the two final episodes, briefly, and your phone calls for Governor Jesse Ventura, giving us the exclusive.
01:04:58.000 We'll be right back.
01:05:00.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
01:05:04.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.
01:05:08.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
01:05:12.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
01:05:19.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
01:05:23.000 They're asking for more matches!
01:05:24.000 The whole of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
01:05:34.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.
01:05:36.000 They're asking for more matches.
01:05:38.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
01:05:40.000 Today, it seems like nobody does care.
01:05:42.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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01:08:11.000 Governor Jesse Ventura, he's worn a lot of hats, but now he is fighting the new world order.
01:08:28.000 And I don't want to put words in his mouth, but Governor, I think it's safe to say, I mean, you now know there's a world government, there is an elite.
01:08:34.000 The question is, how evil are they?
01:08:36.000 Are they monolithic?
01:08:37.000 What is their main goal?
01:08:38.000 I mean, is it fair to say that you're now officially not their label of conspiracy theorist?
01:08:44.000 But, I mean, you question JFK, you question 9-11, you question HAARP.
01:08:48.000 You're not buying the Kool-Aid they're selling.
01:08:51.000 Is that fair to say?
01:08:52.000 Well, let me put it this way.
01:08:54.000 Irregardless of anything, it sure is interesting stuff.
01:08:59.000 And, you know, we do a show on the Bilderbergs and I do understand that they're real.
01:09:06.000 I guess the thing that upsets me the most was I made it to governor and they never invited me.
01:09:13.000 And I would, and I guess maybe I gotta run for office again then so I get invited to this thing to find out what the hell goes on inside there.
01:09:21.000 Well, they would have invited you if you would have gone along with the CIA when they sent you down at the governor's office two weeks into office.
01:09:29.000 But I mean, you're not selling people out.
01:09:31.000 You're a swashbuckling, you know, loose cannon for freedom.
01:09:35.000 But, what is your view on the New World Order then?
01:09:38.000 Because I know you're anti-establishment and... Well, let me put it to you this way.
01:09:41.000 That I also look at it from a different perspective, Alex.
01:09:45.000 I believe in evolution.
01:09:47.000 The science of evolution.
01:09:49.000 And, maybe this is evolution.
01:09:53.000 You know, when you look at it, that we will evolve and that maybe it won't fully be here in our lifetimes, but a hundred years from now.
01:10:01.000 Because of the fact with technology the way it is, the world gets smaller and smaller and smaller.
01:10:08.000 And I guess, let me, just for the sake of argument, state that there would be one good thing if there was a one world government.
01:10:17.000 You know what that would be?
01:10:18.000 There couldn't be wars then, could there?
01:10:23.000 But see Governor, that is the... No, I mean literally.
01:10:27.000 Then you wouldn't have one country fighting another country.
01:10:30.000 No, but that's not their plan.
01:10:32.000 Oh, I understand that Alex.
01:10:33.000 Don't for a minute think I'm naive.
01:10:36.000 But I am saying that there is the chance that this could be almost an evolutionary thing, that we will evolve to the point Where there may well be a one world government and there may be no way around it.
01:10:49.000 Then the important thing, Alex, is what will that government be?
01:10:55.000 Well, that's the issue here, is that they always pitch it that we were hunter-gatherers, we were agrarian, we formed villages, then city-states, then nations, then empires, and the next phase is Star Trek, that we've been implanted with psychologically, the image of the global galactic empire, and we're always fighting green aliens, you know, the Klingons, so we've got to do this.
01:11:15.000 The issue is, they built this world government in stealth, and denied that it existed.
01:11:22.000 Until it was too late to really stop it.
01:11:25.000 And now they're coming out going, yeah, we're going to tax everything you do.
01:11:28.000 We're not going to let you have more than one kid.
01:11:30.000 And yeah, we want to carry out eugenics on you, and we're going to carbon tax you.
01:11:34.000 And Ban Ki-moon writes editorials saying the carbon tax is for the New World Order, and it's for a bunch of corrupt CEOs and bankers to play emperor.
01:11:43.000 And so if the people of the world ever wanted to create a world government, and it was democratic and under the republic system, then that would be one thing.
01:11:52.000 But this thing was created by a corrupt group of criminals, and it's a world tyranny.
01:11:58.000 That's why every ounce of my body and being, just like Thomas Jefferson said, I swear eternal resistance to all forms of tyranny over the minds of men.
01:12:09.000 And Jesse, I know you, I mean, don't you swear?
01:12:13.000 Alex, I wholeheartedly agree with you.
01:12:15.000 I'm not going to dispute anything you've said.
01:12:19.000 I won't.
01:12:20.000 But the point is, And you're correct.
01:12:23.000 If it was so good, why would they do it in secret?
01:12:26.000 And that's a very, very valid point to make.
01:12:29.000 But the point we have to make, if it's inevitable that we're going to come under one world rule, then we, the people, have to ensure that we're players in the game, that we have dogs in the fight.
01:12:42.000 But I don't want to be under the Communist Chinese.
01:12:45.000 Alex is making sure we got a dog in the fight.
01:12:47.000 No, no, I hear you.
01:12:49.000 But instead, so we never have a dog in the fight, They just say there isn't a world government, meet your world government.
01:12:55.000 I mean, they're still saying world government doesn't exist, so that we can never demand representation.
01:13:01.000 Well, what's interesting was I was out at that new Denver airport.
01:13:05.000 Right?
01:13:05.000 The new one in Denver?
01:13:07.000 Yes.
01:13:07.000 And on the plaque that they have out there, on the bottom of it, it says the New World Airport Commission.
01:13:16.000 And there isn't one.
01:13:18.000 Nothing, nothing of that name is in existence.
01:13:22.000 And there's murals of Nazis.
01:13:23.000 How would they put that on the dedication plaque at that big Denver Airport?
01:13:28.000 The New World.
01:13:29.000 Not the Colorado Airport Commission, not the Denver Airport Commission, but the New World Airport Commission.
01:13:37.000 And they have paintings of Nazis killing children above it.
01:13:41.000 Also, they're not Nazis.
01:13:43.000 I disprove that.
01:13:46.000 Well, there's people in fascist-style uniforms milling people in.
01:13:48.000 Right, but they are not Nazis.
01:13:50.000 You know how I disproved that, Alex?
01:13:52.000 How?
01:13:53.000 The guy's carrying an AK-47.
01:13:55.000 I saw it right away.
01:13:56.000 I said, this can't be a Nazi.
01:13:58.000 The Nazis didn't have that weapon.
01:14:00.000 Yeah, but I don't think the artist knows that the Kalashnikov is an Eastern Bloc weapon.
01:14:04.000 Well, I noticed it.
01:14:07.000 Hey Jesse, I want to take some calls in time.
01:14:09.000 Yes, let's do some calls.
01:14:11.000 But a plug right here in the middle of this conversation.
01:14:14.000 I'm going to mail you, I've forgotten to mail you, Fall of the Republic, because this details from the globalist-owned statements that they are setting up a tyrannical world government, that they engineered the banking crisis by the crisis by design and that they are setting up a citizen spy force police state system so i hope all the listeners will get a copy of follow the republic at infowars.com in the online video bookstore and support what we're doing here but also show it to everyone you know because this film exposes the wider agenda
01:14:43.000 and alex let me shamelessly add in please watch my television show because if we get such an overwhelming audience response it'll force them to buy it up for another and we'll be able to get that much farther into it.
01:14:57.000 it then and then like the x-files i get the spinoff like the lone gunman there you go okay now we're getting into real inside baseball look this show is important and i want everybody to tell their friends and family and neighbors True TV, December 2nd, airing every Wednesday.
01:15:15.000 Absolutely important, because this show is definitely from our perspective.
01:15:20.000 Okay, I want to go to some calls, but we got to finish up with the last point.
01:15:23.000 We just hit Manchurian Candidate, Secret Societies.
01:15:26.000 What about Big Brother?
01:15:27.000 You talked it...
01:15:28.000 Well, Big Brother is just simply that.
01:15:31.000 It's Big Brother, are they watching over you?
01:15:34.000 And I think in our show, you're going to hear clearly that they are and that clearly it's going to come from a place where the government is able to do it and work around the Constitution.
01:15:49.000 We have found that out and we will air that on the show to where you will clearly see how the government has looped the Constitution in which establishing Big Brother on you.
01:16:01.000 Okay.
01:16:05.000 Can we say the different federal groups you talk to or just leave that alone?
01:16:08.000 Uh, I don't think I talked to any federal groups again.
01:16:11.000 There was no cooperation from the government at all.
01:16:13.000 Well, you talked to their minions, though.
01:16:15.000 You talked to their Gestapo, their, their, their, their ground pounders, their citizen spies.
01:16:20.000 Well, yes, we did do that.
01:16:22.000 We'll just leave it there.
01:16:23.000 We'll just leave it there.
01:16:24.000 Yeah, just leave it at that.
01:16:26.000 Well, it's a very exciting, uh... Too many of them are right down in your country, Alex.
01:16:30.000 I don't want you getting in trouble.
01:16:33.000 Believe me, we know what InfraGard is up to.
01:16:36.000 Oklahoma's too close to Austin.
01:16:42.000 Okay, folks, Governor Jesse Ventura is our guest.
01:16:45.000 Best-selling author, wrestler, movie star, governor, football, National Football League, NFL commentator, surfer.
01:16:55.000 Jesse, what is there you haven't done?
01:16:59.000 I don't know, but I've got a few years to figure it out yet, Alex.
01:17:04.000 You never stop going because, you know, in the words of the late great Warren Zavon, I'll sleep when I'm dead.
01:17:10.000 Program note to stations.
01:17:12.000 This is a network break coming up.
01:17:14.000 We're going to the end of the we're going right to the bottom of the.
01:17:17.000 of the hour 29 after we're going to let the governor go here so we're going to take calls right now for the last 12 minutes or so with governor jesse ventura giving you the inside scoop jesse why did you give this show first the inside scoop i was very honored when you called me and said you were going to give us the exclusive one for a number of reasons alex your participation in the show was exceptional and we appreciated it and uh you know you flew out to la and i'm a couple times and all that to participate, and so why not?
01:17:45.000 I reward the people that reward me, and so that's a reason for it.
01:17:51.000 Plus, you have the listening audience, the base market that this show is designed for.
01:17:56.000 I would be crazy not to come on your show with my show because, you know, I'm not going to lie, we're out for success on this show.
01:18:04.000 I hope this show is hugely successful.
01:18:07.000 Yeah, but I know the TV shows you turn down.
01:18:09.000 I mean, I don't know if you want to say it, but you're turning down something with 30 million viewers coming up in a few weeks because you want to be out of the country.
01:18:16.000 I'm just really honored you came because I know you're turning down a bunch of really huge media interviews, but doing our shows, we appreciate it.
01:18:23.000 Well, no problem.
01:18:24.000 And like I said, you know, you're a wealth of information, Alex, that we can always rely upon.
01:18:31.000 And, you know, so doing your show is just simply the left hand washing the right hand.
01:18:37.000 Well, folks, we're going to post this interview up at InfoWars.com.
01:18:40.000 Over 200,000 people a day get the free podcast.
01:18:42.000 Get it.
01:18:43.000 Share it with everybody.
01:18:43.000 We're going to post a YouTube video of it.
01:18:45.000 Share it with everyone.
01:18:46.000 Because if this show can be a big success, the system may start letting more of this on the air as the Internet culture takes over the mainstream media.
01:18:54.000 We can beat the globalists.
01:18:57.000 If they can't beat us, they're going to try to join us, and we can slow down this whole system.
01:19:02.000 That's what Tweety Bird always said, if you can't beat them, join them.
01:19:05.000 Well, if we can beat them, they're going to have to back off.
01:19:08.000 And believing we can expose these people is half the battle.
01:19:12.000 Believing you can win.
01:19:13.000 Or as G.I.
01:19:14.000 Joe says, knowing is half the battle.
01:19:15.000 I believe taking action is half the battle.
01:19:17.000 Resistance is victory.
01:19:18.000 Matt in Illinois, you're on the air with Jesse Ventura.
01:19:20.000 Go ahead, Matt.
01:19:22.000 Well, Mr. Ventura, how are you doing?
01:19:25.000 Pretty good.
01:19:27.000 I wanted to know, I don't have a TV.
01:19:29.000 I gave up watching TV a long, long time ago because I didn't like being treated like I was stupid.
01:19:35.000 And it sounds like you've got a really good show, and I'd like to know if there's any plans to put it on the web or somehow that I'll be able to watch it without having to...
01:19:45.000 I don't know at this time, but then again, I'm not a good web person to talk to, but I certainly will inquire to find out what the options are about doing it over the web or whatever I want.
01:19:56.000 I don't know.
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01:23:59.000 Or if you're on the no-fly list, you won't be able to buy a gun.
01:24:02.000 So you're not convicted of a felony or a misdemeanor or a parking ticket, Governor, but then you lose your rights.
01:24:08.000 Isn't that 180 degrees the opposite from our republic form of government?
01:24:12.000 I would like to think so.
01:24:14.000 And as I said earlier, Alex, it's just the case of the big brother.
01:24:19.000 And in this case, it was dealing with the Bilderbergs that we have this particular guy we were going to interview.
01:24:25.000 He was coming from a foreign country to here, and he was on the no-fly list over there.
01:24:31.000 And to my knowledge, he's not a terrorist, so, you know, it's interesting how they'll disrupt people's lives by putting him on this no-fly list if he's simply out of, say, a different political persuasion or whatever it might be.
01:24:46.000 Well, Governor, you've got to get to a meeting in downtown Minneapolis, so we've only got four more minutes left with you.
01:24:52.000 Let's take two final calls quickly.
01:24:53.000 Gary in Washington, then Mark in Minnesota.
01:24:56.000 Gary, you're on the air with Jesse Ventura.
01:24:57.000 It's an honor to be here with you.
01:25:00.000 I have a very important piece of information for the Governor, and I have a big question for both of you.
01:25:05.000 First piece of information.
01:25:07.000 Shake maps.
01:25:09.000 Shake maps.
01:25:10.000 It's a product of U.S.
01:25:11.000 Geological Survey Earthquake Hazards Program.
01:25:14.000 If you look at the shake map in Sichuan, when the earthquake happened with a rainbow over China on May 20, 2008, the shake map is the exact same shape as the HAARP weapon.
01:25:28.000 That's point number one, and then we'll get to point number two.
01:25:32.000 Okay, what's your final point?
01:25:33.000 Because we've got to go here in a minute.
01:25:35.000 Okay, so check out the ShakeMap's final point.
01:25:38.000 There's too much fragmentation on the info war.
01:25:41.000 Prison Planet, Birthers, Oath Keepers, 9-11 Truth, Audit the Fed, LP, Gun Owners, Skywatch.
01:25:46.000 I would recommend both of you Join and help create a constitutional defense fund.
01:25:54.000 Sir, we can't do it all.
01:25:55.000 Hold on a minute.
01:25:56.000 People act like Jesse Ventura or Alex Jones or Ron Paul have magical powers.
01:26:00.000 We put our pants on one leg at a time, too.
01:26:04.000 Freedom is fractured.
01:26:05.000 It's good that we're not all unified because that makes us hard to stop.
01:26:09.000 Governor, your comment on that?
01:26:12.000 It's like when I was the third party candidate in Minnesota, I tried to bring all the third parties together so we could consolidate and become a force against the other two parties.
01:26:24.000 I got news for you, it's like herding cats.
01:26:29.000 And I couldn't even bring them together on an issue that we all agreed upon and that was campaign finance.
01:26:34.000 None of us, none of us took dirty money.
01:26:37.000 And it just fractured like nothing, and so I just threw my hands up in the air and I said, it may be impossible, but I think Alex makes a great point that they can't stop us all if we're all coming at them from different directions.
01:26:50.000 Yeah, it's a spirit of liberty.
01:26:52.000 Shrink government, bring accountability.
01:26:54.000 Final call for Governor Jesse Ventura from his home state, Minnesota.
01:26:58.000 Mark, you're on the air.
01:26:59.000 Go ahead.
01:27:00.000 Hi, can you hear me?
01:27:02.000 Yes I can, go ahead.
01:27:02.000 Hi Mark.
01:27:03.000 Hi.
01:27:03.000 Hi, I brought it for you Jesse.
01:27:05.000 I appreciate both of you guys' work.
01:27:07.000 And quickly, a couple questions about, I can't wait for your show to come out.
01:27:11.000 I look forward to watching that.
01:27:13.000 And I'll tell people about it, my friends and what not.
01:27:16.000 A couple ideas for the show, maybe you could look into the patent issue where people, individuals developing free energy and anti-gravity technology that The government then deems it a national security risk.
01:27:30.000 You know, Jesse, that's a great idea.
01:27:31.000 If it gets picked up for another season, is look at Cold Fusion.
01:27:35.000 We'll take that into consideration, but we've got to get picked up first.
01:27:38.000 We only did seven for right now.
01:27:40.000 Yeah, we've got to cross that bridge before we... We have to come to that bridge before we cross it.
01:27:45.000 Anything else, Mark?
01:27:46.000 Yeah, one last thing.
01:27:47.000 I just saw an article in the World Met Daily about data centers being set up by the NSA and Homeland Security Department.
01:27:55.000 And I'm very concerned about that.
01:27:56.000 They collect all our information, all communications, and it's just another incremental loss of liberty.
01:28:03.000 Watch my show on his big brother watching and all that, and you'll learn how they get away with it, how they loop the Constitution to do it.
01:28:12.000 Thank you so much, Mark.
01:28:13.000 Okay, we've got a minute and a half left.
01:28:15.000 Governor, I'm going to say bye to you when we go to break, so just hold one moment.
01:28:18.000 But I wanted to say in closing, it's been great working with you.
01:28:21.000 I hope the show airs.
01:28:22.000 Looks like it is.
01:28:23.000 They've started promoting it.
01:28:24.000 They're unleashing you to promote it.
01:28:26.000 So I think that's the green light.
01:28:27.000 But as you said, we won't believe it airs until we see it go on December 2nd on TruTV.
01:28:32.000 So spread the word.
01:28:33.000 But did you ever think, because I know all about this stuff and I still can't believe it.
01:28:38.000 I'm still flabbergasted.
01:28:39.000 I am psychologically speechless a lot of times.
01:28:42.000 I can still Babble some words out, but it's hard to articulate.
01:28:46.000 The NSA says they're taking over the whole internet.
01:28:49.000 They may shut it down during crises like bird flu or swine flu.
01:28:52.000 The NSA is going to intercept all internet traffic.
01:28:56.000 They're building NSA centers in San Antonio and New York and Florida and Minnesota and California and just admitting they're reading everything we're doing.
01:29:05.000 So they go from we're not spying on Al-Qaeda to we are spying on Al-Qaeda to we're spying on you and we don't need no stinking warrants.
01:29:12.000 Did you ever think that would happen?
01:29:14.000 Well, it will happen because, yeah, I can believe it happening, Alex, because of apathetic people out there.
01:29:21.000 People cannot be apathetic any longer.
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01:29:26.000 You can't sit back and have government tell you they're going to protect you, but in lieu of that protection, you're going to give up your freedoms.
01:29:33.000 You are better off to be in danger from terrorists than you are to lose your freedoms.
01:29:39.000 Don't let them take your freedoms and always remember dissension is the greatest form of patriotism.
01:29:46.000 Governor Jesse Ventura, amazing having you on.
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01:33:39.000 And he also is the guest host for Glenn Beck.
01:33:42.000 I wish he was!
01:33:45.000 The person doing that show because he is the real bonafide.
01:33:49.000 He wrote an editorial last week pointing out that the Republican health care plan was almost as bad as the Democrats and he is a constitutionalist right up there with Ron Paul and so he's somebody I actually agree with on like 98% of stuff Instead of Glenn Beck, 90%.
01:34:08.000 Because that 10% is a big area.
01:34:10.000 And so, I'm here for about 15 minutes to talk about healthcare, the big government takeover of healthcare, extrajudicial, these boards decide what to do, and to talk about the cap and trade, which I believe has a good chance of passing the Senate.
01:34:24.000 Both of these are now in orbit, like ICBM, Space stations about to drop nukes on our Republic and Judge Andrew Napolitano is there fighting it valiantly.
01:34:36.000 Judge, it's great to have you with us.
01:34:38.000 Well, thank you, Alex.
01:34:39.000 It's good to be on with you.
01:34:42.000 There's so much happening.
01:34:43.000 What's more important cap and trade and the total micromanagement of our life by special interests with Al Gore set to make the money or the government takeover of health care?
01:34:52.000 Oh boy, that's really a pick-your-poison, Alex.
01:34:55.000 It's all part of the same big government mentality.
01:34:59.000 Your kind comments about the piece I wrote was really from a monologue that I gave while filling in for Glenn Beck, which I'm also doing later today at 5 o'clock Eastern, by the way, on Fox News Channel, in which I argued that we don't have a two-party system in this country.
01:35:15.000 We have a one party, one political party called the big government party.
01:35:19.000 The Republican branch likes war and deficits and assaulting our civil liberties.
01:35:26.000 And the Democratic branch likes wealth transfers and taxes and assaulting our commercial liberties.
01:35:32.000 The heck with the Constitution, the heck with the Bill of Rights, the heck with inalienable rights, the heck with even the laws that we write, we know what's better for you than what you know is good for yourself and we will tell you how to obey or else.
01:35:50.000 Cap and trade is one manifestation of that.
01:35:53.000 Obamacare is another manifestation of it.
01:35:57.000 I was furious last week when I saw that even the Republicans, even so-called conservative Republicans, not Ron Paul, but many in the Republican leadership in the House, introduced Obamacare light, which basically presumes a federal a role in health care, of which there is none under the Constitution, tells insurance carriers you can't refuse to cover people because of preexisting injuries.
01:36:25.000 That's a very nice thing, but there's no power for the Congress to mandate it.
01:36:29.000 That's got to come about by the free market.
01:36:32.000 Bribes the states to change their court system, so they would basically go to the state of New Jersey and say, well, So we pave the Garden State Parkway and the New Jersey Turnpike if you put caps on the limits that juries can award injuries against doctors and medical malpractice lawsuits.
01:36:50.000 If you and I went to a state and said, I'll give you money if you change our laws, we'd be arrested for bribery.
01:36:56.000 So this was all the same mindset of we in Washington Judge Andrew Napolitano is our guest today.
01:37:14.000 Judge, what you're talking about and reading over the legislation, it's like Groundhog Day but on a bigger scale.
01:37:20.000 It's Chicago or New York, big city, crime boss, A machine doling everything out.
01:37:28.000 It's like with the takeover of General Motors.
01:37:31.000 It even came out in congressional investigations, as you know, because you covered it, that people that gave money to Obama cronies or to the Democratic Party, they got to keep their dealership and got to keep their client list.
01:37:45.000 But if you didn't, if you'd ever gone against them, Or hadn't paid the protection money, you lost your dealership, even though some of the dealerships were over 80 years old and made millions of dollars a year.
01:37:57.000 And so now you have this 10th Amendment destroying federal power coming in with these unelected panels.
01:38:05.000 And it just goes on and on and on and on.
01:38:09.000 And I fear it can pass the Senate.
01:38:11.000 I'm hearing some of the Republican leadership saying, oh, no, it won't.
01:38:14.000 They said it wouldn't pass the House in the last two weeks.
01:38:17.000 Well, they did say it wouldn't pass the House, and it did pass by a two-vote margin.
01:38:21.000 And, you know, you really can't tell with politicians, because the leadership will bribe them.
01:38:28.000 Remember the first time TARP, the so-called Troubled Asset Relief Program, went through the House, it was defeated.
01:38:35.000 I remember I was on the Fox Business Network at the moment.
01:38:40.000 Fist in air.
01:38:42.000 Just emoting joy, shouting, the beast is dead.
01:38:46.000 But I was naive because the leadership came back and bribed by, you know, we'll build a courthouse in your district, your friend wants to become a federal judge, he's got it, just vote for us on TARP.
01:38:56.000 And eventually people changed their vote.
01:38:59.000 I fear that the same thing will happen with respect to Obamacare, the government.
01:39:04.000 The executive branch, the leadership in both parties, in both houses, will bribe those who are wavering and give them something else that they want in order to secure their vote.
01:39:16.000 But you also raise a very important issue about the delegation of federal power to non-elected groups.
01:39:25.000 This is what FDR did, and FDR is the model for President Barack Obama.
01:39:30.000 FDR had over five 100 groups throughout the country appointed by local politicians who decided what prices and wages were.
01:39:41.000 There's a famous case in my home state of New Jersey where an Eastern European immigrant opened up a dry cleaning shop and the local wage and price group declared that you would charge 40 cents to clean and press a man's suit.
01:39:59.000 This guy charged 35 cents.
01:40:02.000 Literally a nickel cheaper than what the unelected local board said he could charge.
01:40:08.000 He was arrested by the FBI, he was indicted by a grand jury, he was put on trial in federal court in Newark, and he served a three-month prison term in a federal prison for charging five cents less than what the local board allowed him to.
01:40:23.000 Now, transform that ...into modern-day practice of medicine, you will have a board of bureaucrats, not even physicians, bureaucrats, that will be between you and your physician.
01:40:36.000 You will lose your privacy, you will lose the freedom of choice, because the bureaucratic board will give your physician a list of diagnostic tools that she or he can use to address your ailment, and then a list of procedures and medicines that she or he can prescribe.
01:40:54.000 And that's all in there.
01:40:56.000 And that's why they're saying they're going to get all these hundreds of billions out of Medicare and Medicaid by reducing the care.
01:41:02.000 Tom Daschle wrote a book admitting if you're old, you don't deserve it, you don't need it.
01:41:06.000 People are really about to find out who these eugenicists are, who these control freaks are that inhabit the Democratic Party and to some extent the Republican Party.
01:41:16.000 In the five minutes we've got left with Judge Andrew Napolitano joining us today in a very busy schedule, I want to shift gears now.
01:41:25.000 Uh, to war.
01:41:27.000 You talk about the Republicans want endless war, and the Democrats want to nanny-state you together, uh, to death.
01:41:33.000 But look at Obama!
01:41:34.000 He's increased troops before in Afghanistan.
01:41:37.000 He's now saying he's gonna send 40,000 more in, that we're never going to leave.
01:41:41.000 There's over 300,000 international and Afghan troops there now.
01:41:45.000 Uh, I see absolutely no difference between the parties, just different rhetoric.
01:41:51.000 I must reluctantly agree with you.
01:41:53.000 I say reluctantly, not because I don't like to agree with you, I do, but because I was naively expecting that we would not see this kind of build-up under him that we saw under George W. Bush.
01:42:05.000 But think about it, war is the health of the state.
01:42:08.000 When we fight a war, people will look the other way when our taxes are raised and when the government takes away their freedom because they accept the illusion that by fighting the war, the government is somehow keeping them safe.
01:42:20.000 Presidents love war because it lets them escape the confines of the Constitution.
01:42:26.000 It lets them become a little bit of a prince.
01:42:28.000 It even causes judges sometimes, if the president does something under the guise of war-making, to look the other way and defer to the executive branch.
01:42:38.000 Fortunately, the Supreme Court did not do that under Bush years, under the Bush years.
01:42:42.000 And every single time his war-making powers were challenged in the courts and made its way to the Supreme Court of the United States, he was zero and six before a Supreme Court that was appointed largely by Republicans.
01:42:57.000 Judge, were you surprised?
01:42:58.000 You're trying to rely on the Supreme Court to save us because their life's endured and you don't know which way they're going to go.
01:43:04.000 And because it takes too long for the issue to get to them.
01:43:07.000 And too much harm can happen between the time presidents wage war and the time their war powers are challenged in the courts.
01:43:14.000 Were you surprised that Obama flip-flopped so strongly and went from being anti-patriot act to zealously defending it and wanting to expand it and complete warrantless wiretapping, complete secret arrest, complete...
01:43:27.000 I mean, I mean, he's he's going further than Bush on the police state.
01:43:31.000 I didn't think that was possible.
01:43:32.000 I didn't think it was possible either, and I was absolutely crushed when I heard it.
01:43:37.000 He obviously was not my candidate of choice, but I took a little bit of internal intellectual solace in the fact that at least we were getting a president who would respect the Constitution.
01:43:49.000 How wrong I was!
01:43:50.000 His disrespect for the Constitution may not be couched in as harsh Exactly.
01:43:56.000 obvious and overt terms as in the bush years but it's just as bad just as destructive and just as willing to overlook specific restraints written in the constitution to restrain the president as were many of his predecessors well i've talked to a lot of will accept it exactly i've talked to a lot of lawyers and judges and i wanted to briefly see if you agree even though a lot of conservatives didn't like obama
01:44:23.000 true paleo conservatives libertarian types like ron paul yourself because he is a constitutional lawyer and practiced it for 10 years as a professor people expected that obama would try to at least on the surface restore some of the bill of rights But instead, you know, he's saying, Constitution?
01:44:41.000 It's just a GD piece of paper.
01:44:43.000 I, too, expected that he would show more respect for the Constitution.
01:44:48.000 I read some of the lectures he gave at the University of Chicago Law School.
01:44:52.000 I could have given some of those lectures myself when I taught Constitutional Law at Seton Hall Law School in Newark and at Delaware Law School in Wilmington, Delaware.
01:45:01.000 But, you know, something happens when you don the mantle of power, and that something is a disdain for the restraint on your power, a disdain for the natural law, a respect that we have natural rights beyond which no government can go, a disdain for the Constitution itself, a disdain for our inalienable rights, same as natural rights, and a disdain for the Bill of Rights.
01:45:22.000 They just simply don't care.
01:45:25.000 They will steal from the rich to give to the poor to create a class of people dependent upon them who will continue to vote them in office so they can continue to be taken care of, cradle to grave by a federal government that doesn't have one iota of constitutional authority to do all of this.
01:45:44.000 Final question.
01:45:45.000 I'm going to let you go because I know you've got to fill in.
01:45:47.000 Guest host for Glenn Beck tonight.
01:45:48.000 Congratulations on your huge success as your star rises because you're the bonafide constitutionalist.
01:45:54.000 We really, really appreciate you, Judge Andrew Napolitano.
01:45:57.000 But in closing, I would like to get you to comment, A, on just how special George Washington and Andrew Jackson were.
01:46:07.000 They got all this power and then did give it up.
01:46:10.000 They wanted George Washington to be a king.
01:46:12.000 These were amazing founding fathers we had, and what would they think of what's happening today where NOAA Satellite Information Service, the federal government, admits the coldest Winner so far in the last 50 years, the third coldest in the last 100.
01:46:32.000 Meanwhile, they're openly announcing that they're going to list carbon dioxide as a toxic waste and tax it when humans exhale it.
01:46:40.000 Can you end with speaking about our founders compared to the material we've got in Washington today and what they would think of taxing what plants breathe?
01:46:50.000 The founders tried to do two things with the Constitution.
01:46:54.000 One was to create a federal government strong enough to protect us from invasion and to do national type things like run a post office and make sure that there's trade between the states.
01:47:04.000 The other was to restrain the federal government so that it wouldn't interfere with our personal liberties.
01:47:09.000 They specifically gave us a constitution that kept the federal government away from any type of relationship with individuals because they knew that the greatest threat to freedom comes not from your enemy on the outside who you can see and look at.
01:47:26.000 But from the smiling face of the government on the inside, who claims that it's going to take care of you.
01:47:33.000 And Presidents like George Washington, whose closest advisor, Alexander Hamilton, wanted him to be king.
01:47:39.000 And Andrew Jackson, who basically said to the Supreme Court, you know, they've gone ahead and made their federal bank, let them find the money and put them on the deposits in the federal bank.
01:47:50.000 These were people who understood that there were natural limits on what government can do And written limits on what the federal government can do, and they stuck to those limits.
01:48:02.000 The present government and its predecessors, you know, from Lincoln to Wilson to FDR to George W. Bush to Barack Obama, have so distorted out of proportion what the federal government is to do that the founders would not recognize it at all and would probably want to take up arms against it.
01:48:20.000 What are you covering tonight and then we'll let you go.
01:48:22.000 I hope you're going to be covering the health care and cap-and-trade because... That's exactly what we're talking about.
01:48:26.000 We're talking about health care.
01:48:28.000 We're talking about the state of the economy.
01:48:31.000 We're talking about the government subpoenaing media entities wanting to know who earns how much money because they have to decide whose income taxes to audit next.
01:48:46.000 Wait a minute.
01:48:46.000 You're kidding!
01:48:47.000 They're not just The federal government is subpoenaing media people to- They're subpoenaing media companies to find out who earns what and what their social security numbers are.
01:48:58.000 This is getting so bad, so quickly, far worse than any of us imagined.
01:49:03.000 And the present president hasn't even celebrated his first year in office yet.
01:49:08.000 Well, since you brought that up- Since you brought that up, let me just ask you now.
01:49:13.000 Senator Lamar Alexander has gone to the floor and talked about he's confirmed there's an enemies list.
01:49:18.000 He warned him and said, look, I worked for Nixon.
01:49:21.000 Don't do this.
01:49:23.000 It's been reported I am on the enemies list.
01:49:26.000 I'm going from memory.
01:49:27.000 I think you are too.
01:49:28.000 But what is it?
01:49:29.000 I mean, this is crazy.
01:49:31.000 It is scary to know that there's a real enemies list.
01:49:35.000 And this is I mean, is this not illegal, Judge?
01:49:39.000 Well, it's illegal for the President to compile a list of people who disagree with him on the basis of their political opinions and their outspoken words.
01:49:48.000 That was specifically written into the privacy law in 1974, enacted and signed into law by President Ford shortly after President Nixon resigned.
01:49:58.000 These are restraints expressly enacted to restrain the president.
01:50:03.000 But this White House, just like it doesn't respect freedom of contract, just like it doesn't respect freedom of speech, just like it doesn't respect privacy, doesn't respect this either.
01:50:14.000 Well, I tell you, it's scary and everybody should pray for the people that are on that list, myself included.
01:50:19.000 Judge, what's the best website for people to visit to find out about all things Judge Napolitano?
01:50:24.000 Well, they can go to foxnews.com where my Freedom Watch appears, as do my monologues when I fill in for Glenn, as do many of my op-eds.
01:50:36.000 And Alex, I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed being on with you.
01:50:40.000 I hope we get to do this a lot more in the future.
01:50:44.000 Thank you, Judge.
01:50:44.000 Absolutely.
01:50:45.000 Take care.
01:50:46.000 Have a great weekend coming up.
01:50:47.000 You as well.
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01:50:50.000 It's Wednesday, but I'm already thinking about the weekend because I'm going deer hunting.
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01:50:54.000 Yeah, you go get your hamburger out of the drive-thru window.
01:50:57.000 I'm able to go hunting.
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01:54:18.000 Coming up, we've got the clip of George Soros, Obama puppet master, calls for carbon taxes and New World Order on PBS.
01:54:32.000 That is coming up later in the broadcast today.
01:54:36.000 General Stubblebine is joining us, along with his medical doctor wife, Dr. Rayma Labo.
01:54:41.000 Going to be extremely informative.
01:54:46.000 Judge Andrew Napolitano is anti-war, anti-Patriot Act, anti-New World Order, anti-carbon tax.
01:54:54.000 He's almost as good as Ron Paul on the issues.
01:54:58.000 And Fox uses him like you use a little cayenne pepper and chili.
01:55:03.000 They just throw a little bit of it in there.
01:55:05.000 And I like the fact that he's on more and more.
01:55:08.000 And I've talked to him off-air, talked to him privately, read his columns for years.
01:55:12.000 He's a good guy.
01:55:15.000 I don't like coming out and attacking Beck, because I know he's fooled a lot of people and it turns folks off, but I have to tell the truth.
01:55:22.000 And if Beck will stop stabbing us in the back and stop going sideways on issues, I'll support him.
01:55:30.000 The issue here is the owner, Rupert Murdoch, admits that he's supporting the global carbon tax, and is invested in it, and has all of his movies and dramas and non-Fox News shows promoting it.
01:55:43.000 In fact, call Paul Watson, because I couldn't find it this morning.
01:55:47.000 He wrote an article about it two years ago.
01:55:50.000 It has the Rupert Murdoch bragging, look at how I'm propagandizing, I'm proud of myself.
01:55:57.000 It's the montage of Fox TV programs that Fox put out where they're promoting the global techs.
01:56:03.000 You see, you won't hear Napolitano or these guys talk about that.
01:56:08.000 Look, I'm not stupid, and I'm not going to get into any details, but I could certainly go, if I played my cards right, go join Team Fox, ladies and gentlemen.
01:56:18.000 I wasn't ever offered a job by them, but I was offered jobs by people affiliated with them years ago.
01:56:25.000 I told him, no way!
01:56:26.000 Okay?
01:56:27.000 I'm going to fight the New World Order.
01:56:29.000 But I think we should recognize that Fox is beginning to be forced, because the audience has gone there, to speak out against world government.
01:56:40.000 Because all these years, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage and all these guys said there's no New World Order.
01:56:47.000 Glenn Beck said there was no New World Order.
01:56:49.000 Now, it's openly being announced we're in a world government by the people that are pro-world government.
01:56:55.000 And so they look pretty stupid.
01:56:58.000 And so they've got to bring somebody along, like Andrew Napolitano, who's been good the entire time, to not just keep their audience, but grow.
01:57:08.000 Fox is growing their audience, while CNN, CNBC, all the rest of them are imploding.
01:57:14.000 And that's because Fox isn't stupid.
01:57:16.000 They are going anti-New World Order, at least to a certain degree.
01:57:23.000 Well, we're going all the way anti-New World Order, and we always have, and that's who we are.
01:57:29.000 But I get emails going, well, why are you having Judge Andrew Napolitano on?
01:57:32.000 He's on with Fox.
01:57:33.000 He's telling the truth when he's on Fox.
01:57:36.000 We need to support people inside the mainstream media that are getting the truth out, while understanding the larger picture.
01:57:45.000 Before we go to break and come back with Governor Jesse Ventura, I just want to finish making the point, we must take over the system, we must get the power, and then re-establish our constitutional republic as many people have said.
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02:01:01.000 Let's go ahead now and go to Gabe in New York.
02:01:05.000 Gabe, you're on the air.
02:01:06.000 Hello, Mr. Jones.
02:01:08.000 I have a couple quick points I want to push forth.
02:01:11.000 Yesterday, you discussed the carbon taxation, and I got to tell you, I'm affected by that now.
02:01:16.000 I got asthma, and they just got rid of the generic companies, so now I'm stuck instead of paying $25 for my medication, I gotta pay $60.
02:01:23.000 And it's all for the environment, the eugenicists, they love us so much.
02:01:28.000 They also love my grandmother, who they gave DS, a fertility drug, which had serious birth defects.
02:01:36.000 And I also found some other interesting information I wanted to run by you.
02:01:41.000 I found an interesting New World Order quote on a German propaganda archives they talk about.
02:01:46.000 It's, uh, listen, the, uh, secret of Japan's strength.
02:01:50.000 That's, you can find it.
02:01:53.000 And, um, what else we got here?
02:01:55.000 Oh, yeah.
02:01:58.000 I have, uh, photos.
02:01:59.000 I have some photos I'd like to issue you because during the Memorial Day weekend, I had military troops on the boardwalk with .30 caliber machine guns.
02:02:15.000 Amazing!
02:02:18.000 How do I send those to you?
02:02:21.000 The best email, cca to Aaron at InfoWars.com.
02:02:25.000 Aaron with two A's.
02:02:27.000 Send them to ShowTips.com.
02:02:30.000 at Infowars.com and write a short blurb describing what you saw.
02:02:35.000 But no, the Homeland Security's announced they're going to put 379,000 troops on the streets of America.
02:02:43.000 And when Aaron and crew were in Louisiana doing interviews for the new film last week, they ran into City Year with camouflage on their faces.
02:02:54.000 No, you cannot make this stuff up.
02:02:58.000 And we're just drowning in evidence.
02:03:00.000 We've got so much evidence coming in, piling up of the slow incremental paramilitary takeover of the country that I don't even know where to start.
02:03:07.000 It's just mind-blowing.
02:03:08.000 What were the troops with their machine guns doing?
02:03:11.000 You're not exaggerating on any of this information at all.
02:03:14.000 I could throw out a million points here, but all my rich banking cousin does is tell me to get a life, and I'm delusional to even question this stuff.
02:03:24.000 His wife works for Pfizer.
02:03:26.000 I mean, these people are disgusting.
02:03:28.000 You want to know what the New World Order is?
02:03:30.000 Come visit my family for a weekend.
02:03:32.000 You can go find out.
02:03:33.000 Because these people have the same psychology that you have discussed with J. Edward Griffin.
02:03:37.000 They're the same type of people.
02:03:40.000 Disgusting.
02:03:41.000 And I don't look at the population, for example.
02:03:44.000 The Yankees, World Series, the Yankees fan won.
02:03:47.000 What I see these people doing, they're cheering in the streets.
02:03:49.000 They care more about the fact that they have Philly fans out there.
02:03:52.000 They're willing to go out and fight in the streets.
02:03:54.000 I have video footage where fans are fighting each other.
02:03:57.000 They have more passion to fight each other over a baseball game than Goldman Sachs robbing the country for $23.7 trillion in broad daylight.
02:04:07.000 I guess we gotta start telling these fans that Goldman Sachs are a bunch of Phillies or Red Sox fans.
02:04:12.000 And maybe these Yankee fans will start waking up.
02:04:14.000 That's a good idea.
02:04:15.000 Tell New Yorkers that Goldman Sachs is the Red Sox and Goldman Sachs will all be arrested next week.
02:04:22.000 No, I mean, that's a great point you make, that people will go out and riot and kill each other over a football or baseball or basketball game.
02:04:28.000 Or, you know, when the Bulls used to win in Chicago, they'd burn half the town.
02:04:32.000 Oh, but so what if foreign banks are openly killing the dollar and destroying our children's future?
02:04:36.000 That's wonderful!
02:04:39.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be right back.
02:04:40.000 Now, that was a good call, Gabe, in New York.
02:04:43.000 That's the kind of rants I want on the comment line that we're going to start playing more and more clips of here on the show.
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02:04:50.000 Thank you so much, caller.
02:04:52.000 We'll be right back with Jim McGriffin on the other side of this quick break.
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02:08:01.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.
02:08:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:08:07.000 Well, We'll be right back.
02:08:31.000 He's a writer and documentary film producer with many successful titles to his credit.
02:08:36.000 He's listed in Who's Who in America.
02:08:37.000 He's well-known because of his talent for researching difficult topics and presenting them in clear terms that all can understand.
02:08:43.000 He has dealt with such diverse subjects as archaeology and ancient earth history, the Federal Reserve System, international banking, terrorism, internal subversion, the history of taxation, U.S.
02:08:53.000 foreign policy, science and politics, cancer therapy, the Supreme Court, and the United Nations.
02:08:58.000 He's best known for his works include The Creature from Jekyll Island, World Without Cancer, The Open Gates of Troy, No Place to Hide, The Capitalist Conspiracy, More Deadly Than War, The Grand Design, The Great Prison Break, and The Fearful Master.
02:09:13.000 And, uh... He's had a long, long, long media history.
02:09:19.000 What is it, 45 years fighting the New World Order, G. Ever Griffin?
02:09:23.000 Well, Alex, I think I really was in full armor and on my horse about 1960.
02:09:29.000 So we're definitely 1960.
02:09:34.000 So we're talking about 49 years.
02:09:37.000 Yeah.
02:09:39.000 Well, you've certainly done well.
02:09:40.000 You're a living icon.
02:09:42.000 And certainly, you know, you're like good wine, though.
02:09:45.000 You've aged well.
02:09:46.000 You just get sharper and even better.
02:09:49.000 Thank you.
02:09:49.000 I love that.
02:09:50.000 An icon.
02:09:51.000 Well, OK, I have to be something.
02:09:53.000 Might as well be an icon.
02:09:55.000 Let me just put a plug in here right now, because you are a big part of Fall of the Republic, and I want to unveil to listeners the new cover, the first couple of runs we did with the Obama on the cover.
02:10:07.000 I started thinking, you know, I don't want to make this just about Obama, even though he's their front man.
02:10:11.000 And so we have the Statue of Liberty plunging down to its destruction, with Obama down here at the podium.
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02:10:24.000 And I gotta say, this latest print, we even did a better res, higher quality ENCODE.
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02:10:36.000 It just looks like dynamite.
02:10:37.000 The information is power-packed, and G. Edward Griffin is a big contributor to Fall of the Republic, so I hope folks will get it today.
02:10:43.000 Okay, going back to G. Edward Griffin.
02:10:45.000 G. Edward, I've got so many questions, so many things I want to go over with you today, but the first thing I want to ask you is, 49 years fighting this, publishing best-selling books, really The name, over the last half century, you're the person that people point at and say, he's the icon.
02:11:05.000 Even if some of the old timers were still alive, you would still be bigger than they are.
02:11:10.000 And I'm not saying that for ego, I'm pointing out, you have been a prime mover, a central force against the globalists, and with a long view of history, if we wouldn't have had you and others 50 years ago, fighting and planting seeds and getting laughed at, We wouldn't be having this giant awakening that's blooming today that is really threatening the globalists.
02:11:30.000 And they admit in their own documents, as you know, that they could lose control.
02:11:33.000 That's why they're trying to bum rush us right now and bring in the entire program and accelerate it.
02:11:38.000 So people need to understand it's not going to be an instant victory.
02:11:41.000 And we'll talk about your long view of history and how we can beat these people coming up.
02:11:45.000 But first, What is it like to see them openly announcing the world government, openly announcing the carbon tax, openly announcing it's going to be the IMF as the world rulers?
02:11:55.000 We will pay our taxes to private bankers, to Al Gore.
02:11:59.000 Everything you wrote about 20, 30, 40 years ago, because you were reading their own documents, to now see it, Well, that's quite an interesting perspective wrapped up in a question there.
02:12:08.000 I have to answer your question with a single word.
02:12:09.000 Government is rising.
02:12:10.000 Break that down.
02:12:12.000 Get into the health care takeover, the collectivists, the carbon tax, what we're witnessing, and with your long view of history, how you think this fight is going to unfold.
02:12:22.000 G. Edward Griffin.
02:12:23.000 Well, that's quite an interesting perspective wrapped up in a question there.
02:12:29.000 I have to answer your question with a single word.
02:12:32.000 It feels eerie.
02:12:33.000 It's like having a bad nightmare.
02:12:36.000 You wake up and you say, Oh, that was just a nightmare.
02:12:39.000 Oh, come on, get it out of your mind.
02:12:41.000 It's just a nightmare.
02:12:42.000 Repeat after me.
02:12:42.000 It's just a nightmare.
02:12:44.000 And then all of a sudden, the events of the nightmare start to unfold before your eyes.
02:12:48.000 And you go back and you say, Oh, no, it's not a nightmare.
02:12:51.000 This is reality.
02:12:52.000 And it's that kind of an eerie feeling.
02:12:55.000 You could probably write a good movie around that theme, a nightmare that becomes reality.
02:13:01.000 But that's really how I feel about it.
02:13:03.000 You know, when you read the documents of the elitists of the world and you know exactly what they plan and how they think, It is sort of an academic experience in the beginning because you're still living in a system of a lot of freedom and quite a bit of security and prosperity.
02:13:21.000 And so what you're saying, even though you know it's true, has this unreal-like quality, I think it will.
02:13:27.000 Am I right?
02:13:29.000 Are they really going to pull that off?
02:13:31.000 And then you look around and say, yep, yep, they're moving on it.
02:13:33.000 So then you go back and you get serious again.
02:13:35.000 But there's a long period in the beginning, Alex, when I have to tell you it just didn't seem quite real, even though I knew it was.
02:13:42.000 So here we are, all these years later, and now, of course, there's no question that these scenarios that we have put together, not our scenarios, it was their scenario, actually, that it was quite real.
02:13:53.000 And we're living through it now.
02:13:55.000 And it's kind of like, I use another analogy, it's like you're drifting along in a small rowboat or canoe and the water is kind of quiet and calm and the birds are singing, it's a beautiful sunny day and the water is very calm and you're moving and enjoying watching the fish jump and all that sort of thing.
02:14:17.000 But you know, you know because you've looked at the map, you know that you're in a river that's headed toward a huge Waterfall.
02:14:26.000 And you have a pretty good idea that it's down there maybe a couple of days away.
02:14:31.000 So you're not worried about it now but you know you've got to get out of that stream of water pretty soon.
02:14:36.000 And so you're drifting along and everything is fine, but the closer you get to that waterfall, the more rapidly water seems to move.
02:14:44.000 And now here we find ourselves with this little rowboat moving quite rapidly, and you can hear the sound, the roar of the water.
02:14:53.000 You can't see it yet, but you can hear it.
02:14:55.000 So that's another way of looking at it.
02:14:57.000 I'm trying to give you the emotional experience that I have.
02:15:01.000 It's a very unnerving thing.
02:15:03.000 Well, that is a perfect way to describe it, and we've now rounded the bend, and we see the mist and steam rising up from Niagara, and I believe we can now actually see the waterfall.
02:15:16.000 I mean, they're openly announcing world government.
02:15:19.000 They're openly announcing carbon taxes, micromanaging our lives, one-child policies.
02:15:26.000 Times of London comes out and says billionaire club and bid to curb overpopulation, secret meetings.
02:15:33.000 We know that this is a hellish system and just like people could hear the waterfall in 1917 Russia, or they could hear the waterfall in 1935 Germany, As bad as it already is, we know it's going to get a lot, lot worse.
02:15:48.000 And as you said, as we near the fall, the water gets faster and faster and faster.
02:15:53.000 And the globalists were denying, they were blaring on loudspeakers from the woods on the sides of the river for decades that there is no waterfall, everything's fine, go to sleep in the rowboat, relax, drink a beer, watch a ball game.
02:16:07.000 And now as we see the waterfall and see broken ships at the bottom from history, And tyranny passed, and mass murder passed, and we see all the ghosts of those killed by tyranny.
02:16:18.000 They're now saying, oh, it is a waterfall, but you're only safe by going over the edge.
02:16:23.000 Global government is the solution.
02:16:25.000 G. Eber Griffin.
02:16:27.000 Well, I think you said it so well, as usual, Alex.
02:16:29.000 Yeah, they're saying, look, if you stay where you are, you're going to be dashed against a rock.
02:16:34.000 So therefore, go over the waterfall.
02:16:36.000 Come with us.
02:16:37.000 We will lead you over the waterfall.
02:16:38.000 There's a nice big lake down there, and it'll be all calm again.
02:16:42.000 You know, the beginning of the video that you produced, that magnificent video, The Fall of the Republic, you've got a speech by Obama in which he's talking about the need for change.
02:16:55.000 It's kind of his campaign rhetoric, but re-wrapped up in post-presidential events.
02:17:02.000 Yes, we had no choice.
02:17:04.000 We can't look back, he was saying.
02:17:08.000 We can't ignore it.
02:17:09.000 We can't pretend like it's not there.
02:17:11.000 We must deal with it in all of those platitudes.
02:17:13.000 And he's right in that sense.
02:17:15.000 But then he says we cannot continue what we were doing.
02:17:19.000 But to any informed observer, that's the biggest laugh of all, because that is exactly what the present administration is doing.
02:17:27.000 They are continuing what they were doing, except they're accelerating it somewhat.
02:17:32.000 So there's no change in direction.
02:17:33.000 It's always headed toward that waterfall.
02:17:36.000 And yes, you're quite right.
02:17:37.000 They're saying you've got to go over the waterfall because you can't stay where you are.
02:17:40.000 Well, that's not much of a choice, is it?
02:17:43.000 No, it's not.
02:17:46.000 And on both sides of us are the republic, beautiful fields, forests.
02:17:51.000 You know, we could build our civilization back if we had the engine of liberty. - I think it's a great thing.
02:17:56.000 But instead, they're saying, oh no, don't get out of the boat.
02:17:59.000 Just keep going over the waterfall.
02:18:01.000 Everything is going to be fine.
02:18:04.000 But we know it's not going to be fine.
02:18:05.000 We know that's a thousand foot drop down to those rocks below.
02:18:09.000 We know that hundreds of other civilizations have gone over these falls, haven't they?
02:18:14.000 Oh, yes, they have.
02:18:15.000 And I guess it's time to abandon the analogy.
02:18:19.000 Because actually, the people who are calling the shots today, they don't like the rowboat we're in.
02:18:27.000 That rowboat provides way too much stability for people in them.
02:18:32.000 And they really want that rowboat destroyed.
02:18:35.000 They want the people in the water, they want the people clamoring for life Because they're sharks!
02:18:41.000 The banks, in their own documents, want vertical integration.
02:18:44.000 will throw out to them because they want the people out of those boats and into the water.
02:18:48.000 And that's the reality.
02:18:50.000 Because they're sharks.
02:18:51.000 The banks in their own documents want vertical integration.
02:18:54.000 As Maury Strong said, they want to wreck the economy so we all go on collectivist welfare so they can call the shots on everything.
02:19:03.000 Exactly.
02:19:04.000 They're power freaks and that's how they get their jollies and that's it.
02:19:09.000 They're the only trick they know.
02:19:12.000 They're collectivists.
02:19:13.000 They believe in that ideology of collectivism with all powerful government at the top and people serving the state at the bottom.
02:19:22.000 And that's just fine with them because they know that they're in the structure either at the top or far enough toward the top to have a very comfortable life.
02:19:32.000 Well, the rest of us are servants.
02:19:35.000 So it's as simple as that.
02:19:37.000 And the trouble is with most Americans, they can't imagine that there are people out there with that kind of a vision.
02:19:42.000 Because it's not their vision.
02:19:43.000 They think there is no one that actually wants to rule the world.
02:19:47.000 But they're so wrong.
02:19:48.000 History shows that elites always want to rule the world.
02:19:51.000 They always dominate.
02:19:52.000 They always enslave.
02:19:53.000 But somehow this psychological idea got implanted that corruption doesn't exist in government.
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02:24:34.000 But I am still alive G. Edward Griffin is our guest.
02:24:39.000 Short segment, long segment coming up.
02:24:41.000 We're going to break down what's happening currently.
02:24:43.000 But G. Edward, in this brief five-minute segment, can you give people an overview of, say, Norman Dodd and the Reese Committee, the Church Committee, Carol Quigley, documents from the elite, similar to more modern ones like Ecoscience, written by the White House Science Czar, where they admit planetary government.
02:25:01.000 And then now, Ban Ki-moon, Secretary General two weeks ago, editorial in the New York Times titled, We Can Do It, Yeah, I think it's important to get as close to the roots of this as possible.
02:25:11.000 Of course, you can go back practically to Adam and Eve if you want to, but you don't need to go that far.
02:25:15.000 for people that want to do research.
02:25:17.000 Yeah, I think it's important to get as close to the roots of this as possible.
02:25:21.000 Of course, you can go back practically to Adam and Eve if you want to, but you don't need to go that far.
02:25:27.000 One of the most eye-opening documents that I discovered early in my research, Alex, was the testimony of a fellow by the name of Norman Dodd.
02:25:39.000 Norman Dodd, this was the 1940s, right after the end of World War II.
02:25:45.000 There was a lot of concern among a lot of Americans, and particularly some newspaper editors.
02:25:53.000 The Hearst newspaper chain, in particular, was very concerned in writing editorials about Tax-exempt foundations in America, obviously promoting what was in those days blatant communist propaganda.
02:26:11.000 I found that hard to believe when I read those editorials, but I went to the documents themselves from the tax-exempt foundations, and lo and behold, they were right.
02:26:21.000 They were publishing essays written by, guess who?
02:26:25.000 Joseph Stalin praising the glories of communism and socialism and how the end of capitalism was the only way for the world to go and so forth.
02:26:36.000 This was stuff being distributed by some of the largest, most prestigious American tax exempt foundations.
02:26:44.000 And it was just amazing.
02:26:45.000 It was hard for me to believe that would happen, but there it was in the historical record.
02:26:50.000 And so the Hearst papers and others, a lot of newspapers around the country, were writing editorials exposing this, and of course that triggered a lot of alarm on the part of the American people, and they wanted their government People in those days, like today, still thought that their government, you know, represented them.
02:27:08.000 And so they wanted their government to investigate this, not realizing that already, even in those days, our own government was being heavily influenced by tax-exempt foundations and the financial interests that supported them.
02:27:22.000 But anyway, the idea was that they wanted an investigation of these tax-exempt foundations to see if they were, in fact, un-American, is the word they used.
02:27:31.000 That they were advocating systems that required the destruction of the American way of life, and using a process that was not constitutional.
02:27:42.000 I mean, the American system is designed to be changed if necessary, and if it's the will of the people, but there's a constitutional path for that change.
02:27:51.000 And so, they were concerned about groups such as the Communist Party in those days, pursuing an unconstitutional path.
02:27:58.000 Through a violent revolution, and that sort of thing.
02:28:01.000 So, there was a committee established in Congress, headed by Congressman Carol Reese.
02:28:09.000 And I've forgotten the exact title of the committee.
02:28:12.000 It's a long title, but they just referred to it as the Reese Committee, and its purpose was to investigate tax-exempt foundations.
02:28:20.000 Well, that's just background.
02:28:21.000 They hired a fellow by the name of Norman Dodd to be their chief investigator.
02:28:27.000 And Norman Dodd came from banking circles, actually.
02:28:32.000 He had worked for some of the largest banks of New York.
02:28:38.000 He knew how the power structure worked and all of that, and he was not very happy with it, as a matter of fact.
02:28:43.000 He had left banking.
02:28:47.000 Well, we won't go through his career, but eventually they did select him to be the Chief Investigator.
02:28:51.000 So, now we finally get to the Norman Dodd testimony, which I ran across, oh, I guess in the middle 1960s, when I was researching a lot of the government documents put out by the House Committee on Un-American Activities and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee.
02:29:10.000 And one of those obscure documents, and believe me, I had stacks of these things that probably, if they were all put on top of each other, would probably go eight feet to the ceiling of the house here.
02:29:23.000 And one of those obscure documents, I ran across the testimony of Norman Dodd.
02:29:28.000 And it almost knocked my socks off.
02:29:31.000 He was basically saying that when he investigated these tax-exempt foundations, he found out that there was nestled inside of them literally a cabal of people, very powerful, wealthy people, who were trying to destroy America.
02:29:47.000 Stay there!
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02:34:46.000 Okay, G. Edward, you're getting into the Reese Committee, reading the testimony of Norman Dodd, this high-powered investigator hired by Congress.
02:34:53.000 You have the actual foundation documents that we know of as the Carnegie Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, later the Ford Foundation.
02:35:01.000 They're now quite public about all this, and I want you to go through the testimony first and then into modern times, but here's a microcosm example.
02:35:09.000 Eco-barons lead the way.
02:35:11.000 Times of London today.
02:35:13.000 And it says the global rich are going green as never before.
02:35:17.000 The first Sunday Times Green Rich List shows that enthusiasm among the world's wealthiest for investments in areas as diverse as electric cars, solar power, and geothermal energy is unaffected by recession.
02:35:28.000 So they always say, oh, it's about better cars and things that sound reasonable.
02:35:32.000 But when you actually read the minutes of these meetings that have been covered by the media, it's population control.
02:35:38.000 How do we shut off the resources?
02:35:39.000 How do we destroy the industrial society?
02:35:42.000 How do we bring back a neo-feudal ...type of serfdom to control everyone.
02:35:47.000 And here's another Times of London.
02:35:48.000 Billionaire club and bid to curb overpopulation.
02:35:51.000 America's rich people, richest people, meet to discuss ways of tackling disastrous environmental, social and industrial threats.
02:35:58.000 And at the end of the article, it says the Rockefeller Foundation put it on at Rockefeller University.
02:36:05.000 It was secret, but they told the Times some of what happened.
02:36:09.000 And they said, why all the secrecy?
02:36:10.000 They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they could and said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government, he said.
02:36:21.000 Because this meeting went on a week before Bilderberg this year.
02:36:24.000 Now, you then see the Rockefeller Foundation as the nexus of the directorship, and you're the expert on this, I'm just telling the listeners about it, of all the new carbon tax laws, where they decide who can have a business, where they decide what gets developed, what governments fund.
02:36:39.000 This is the private banking cartel, through government power, in a tyrannical fashion, taking complete control over society.
02:36:48.000 Please continue.
02:36:49.000 Yes, well, boy, there's so much on that and it all, as you said earlier, it goes back to the earliest beginnings of which I'm aware where they actually talked about these strategies was when the tax-exempt foundations amassed tremendous amounts of financial firepower.
02:37:09.000 We're talking about, as you mentioned, the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace, the Rockefeller Foundation Fund, the Ford Foundation.
02:37:17.000 People cannot imagine the tremendous amount of money that these tax exempt foundations have in their bank accounts and invested in producing a constant flow of money.
02:37:30.000 And they use it, the general impression is that they use it for philanthropic purposes.
02:37:36.000 But now, we're talking about Norman Dodd, who started to investigate these organizations and found out that under the name of, or the cover of philanthropy, they were actually doing social engineering, and they were doing a government change, and that they were trying to change the actual, the characteristic of the American society.
02:37:57.000 And it was quite astounding.
02:37:59.000 And when I read this testimony, I just found it almost, almost impossible to believe.
02:38:07.000 And so I was traveling in those days back to Virginia.
02:38:12.000 And we had hired a television crew and we were putting together a little documentary on some topic.
02:38:19.000 It wasn't this at all.
02:38:20.000 I've even forgotten the topic at the present time.
02:38:23.000 But I do know that we had a weekend where we had no appointments and no interviews.
02:38:29.000 And so I decided to see if I could locate Norman Dodd because I knew the last reference I had, they said he lived in in Virginia someplace.
02:38:38.000 And so I just opened up the telephone directory and started to look through, see if I could find how many Norman Dodds there were.
02:38:45.000 There were only about three.
02:38:47.000 And so I decided to call the first one on the list.
02:38:51.000 And it was him.
02:38:53.000 It was almost incredible.
02:38:54.000 Good luck.
02:38:55.000 I said, Mr. Dodd, are you the same one who was the investigator for the Reese Committee?
02:39:00.000 He said, yes, that is I. And I said, well, how wonderful.
02:39:04.000 I'm here, I have a camera crew, and I'm interested in your testimony.
02:39:08.000 Would you like to speak for our cameras?
02:39:10.000 He said, well, of course, young man, of course.
02:39:12.000 This was many years ago.
02:39:13.000 And so we got him over to where we were staying, and I actually captured his whole story on videotape.
02:39:21.000 And it was a good thing because by that time he was advanced in years and he was not very well at all.
02:39:28.000 And it wasn't, I think it was less than a year later that he passed away.
02:39:32.000 So we were fortunate enough to get his testimony again this time spoken to our cameras.
02:39:39.000 And I had a chance to question him.
02:39:40.000 So I became very, very personally familiar with his story.
02:39:44.000 And I might say that if anybody is interested in this, they can find The complete description of what he said, and you can find even a reference to the film, the documentary film which we produced based on his testimony, which is called The Hidden Agenda.
02:40:02.000 And you can find all of that on our website.
02:40:04.000 In fact, since we're talking about documents, I think a good reference point would be to come to the Freedom Force website.
02:40:11.000 That's freedomforceinternational.org.
02:40:16.000 And when you get there to the landing page, you'll see across the top a subsection called The Issues.
02:40:23.000 And if you'll just navigate to The Issues, at the bottom of that page you'll see a series of essays and references which include almost all of the documents that we're talking about, Alex, including the Norman Dodd testimony.
02:40:37.000 Absolutely, and people can also Google Norman Dodd, and the video is out on the web, and it's all the key info is there at the Freedom Force website.
02:40:45.000 We'll give that all out before you leave us again as well.
02:40:48.000 We also have Carol Quigley, and I want to speak some about that and then get into what's currently happening as we come down to the end game.
02:40:56.000 And suddenly they go from denying their plans that they were building behind the curtains, now they're launching this warmock, this juggernaut against us, so they've unveiled it.
02:41:05.000 And they are pushing it and telling everybody how great it is and how wonderful it is and how fantastic it is.
02:41:13.000 So let's discuss Terms here because we start talking about a communist conspiracy.
02:41:21.000 People think it's a bunch of guys in black uniforms running around in Russia a hundred years ago.
02:41:27.000 Can you explain to people why the ultra-rich always fund wealth transferring programs and always bill it and paint it and package it as if it's a revolution of the people and why ultra-rich uh...
02:41:40.000 make their wealth and keep their well then expand their wealth through monopolies through collectivist governments in all their forms because people don't come in as a wire the rich funding it a lot of the rich love communist china so much explain that to people it's really uh...
02:41:57.000 looking at the wrong place if you're asking why they super rich are collectivists are gravitate into government The rich aspect of their characteristics is not the main thing.
02:42:12.000 It's their power mad people.
02:42:14.000 And money is one of the most important levers of power.
02:42:18.000 And so power mad people, these control freaks of the predator class, different ways of saying the same thing, They will gravitate toward any mechanism of power.
02:42:29.000 Well, that's government, isn't it?
02:42:31.000 If you can control the levers of governmental power, you can really control the population and you can have all the money.
02:42:38.000 So it's kind of a merger.
02:42:41.000 And they can pretend to be collectivists on the left or collectivists on the right.
02:42:46.000 It makes no difference.
02:42:48.000 Right and left wings are merely two wings of the same ugly bird, which is collectivism.
02:42:54.000 And, like any wings on a bird, they'll flap against each other in order to fly.
02:42:59.000 You need both wings to fly, and so this is the appearance of conflict.
02:43:04.000 So that, politically speaking, all the dum-dums down at the bottom of this mechanism think that they're, you know, participating in their own political destiny because they can go to the polls and they can vote the rascals out.
02:43:19.000 And vote Republican this time.
02:43:21.000 Oh, we don't like that.
02:43:22.000 We'll go vote Democrat the next time.
02:43:24.000 And the two wings beat against each other, and the bird flies.
02:43:29.000 And so that's true not only in our country, but it's true around the world, and it's true through much of modern history, that the conflict, that the big major conflicts of the world, of which we're familiar, World War I, Okay, we had our customary phone drop, so we're going to get G. Edward Griffin back on.
02:43:45.000 In fact, let's just have Genesis do it.
02:43:46.000 war three now going on is a conflict to a large extent between two branches of world collectivism okay we had our customary phone drop so we're going to uh get g ever griffin back on in fact let's just have genesis do it give genesis his phone number and we'll just go with the genesis phone system and uh test that out that way uh
02:44:14.000 Again, G. Edward Griffin is our guest today.
02:44:19.000 And while we're getting G. Edward Griffin back on the line, again, I'll just point out that he is in the film Fall of the Republic.
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02:44:56.000 A sign of a dictatorship is in its final stages of completion, and laws protecting basic human rights are now being abolished worldwide.
02:45:03.000 An iron curtain of high-tech tyranny is now descending over the planet.
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02:45:17.000 The image makers have carefully packaged Obama as the world's savior.
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02:45:43.000 Okay, going back to G. Edward Griffin, our line dropped to you.
02:45:47.000 Continue where you left off, sir.
02:45:50.000 Yeah, I don't know what happened.
02:45:51.000 All of a sudden I was talking to a dead phone.
02:45:53.000 But anyway, it was probably the universe speaking to me because I realized I was digressing from your initial question, which is why do these people always gravitate toward government?
02:46:05.000 And the word that was used was the super-rich or the very rich.
02:46:10.000 Well, actually, you know, in the beginning of this country, America Surpassed the rest of the world through a very simple principle.
02:46:19.000 It's called free enterprise competition.
02:46:22.000 And under those conditions, people compete.
02:46:25.000 They produce the best product and service they possibly can at the lowest possible price.
02:46:30.000 And this leads to great systems of efficiency and productivity.
02:46:35.000 And that, in my view, is what made America so great.
02:46:39.000 Because we came from a virtual wilderness.
02:46:42.000 Uh, Europe was already far ahead of us, but we bypassed Europe because of free enterprise competition.
02:46:48.000 Well, then about toward the end of the 1800s, um, these very wealthy people, uh, who had become the captains of industry, as they like to call them, you know, the Rockefellers and the Carnegies and so forth, had already reached great, um, Uh, fortunes, acquired great fortunes, and decided that competition was no longer in their best interest.
02:47:10.000 And they began to look for ways to eliminate competition.
02:47:14.000 In fact, John D. Rockefeller said it best.
02:47:17.000 He's quoted by all of his biographers.
02:47:20.000 He said, competition is a sin.
02:47:22.000 Well, of course it's a sin if you're at the top of the pyramid and you don't want anybody competing with you because you're already in first place.
02:47:29.000 Then you say competition is a sin.
02:47:32.000 And from that period of history, about the 1880s on, there was a rather substantial and rapid change in the way Americans did business.
02:47:42.000 Instead of free enterprise competition, they began to coalesce into cartels and form monopolies, and to go into partnership with government to pass laws, always in the name of protecting the people, but laws which in reality eliminated competition.
02:48:01.000 And was able to throw competitive advantage in the direction of those with political influence.
02:48:09.000 And so we saw a change in the way people became rich.
02:48:13.000 It used to be they became rich by competing and by producing goods and services.
02:48:17.000 And then by the 1900s, they became rich by not competing and instead using their prowess and their expertise to buy politicians, to create laws that would eliminate their competition and give them unfair advantage.
02:48:34.000 And so that's how...
02:48:35.000 That's how we see the big bankers publicly funding fascism and communism, now declassified that Hitler and Mussolini were MI5 and were basically set up.
02:48:45.000 I mean, this is the sophistication of the Milner Group and this British model, this imperial model of hiding your true government behind front men, and so elites can come in and Have the government give them the power to issue currency and credit and buy up the planet, but still some people don't want to sell, so now you pass big environmental laws, which the Rockefellers admit they founded, which they also founded the worldwide acceptance of eugenics.
02:49:15.000 Over a hundred years ago, as you know, the rock stars were scientists.
02:49:19.000 And these elites were smart, they financed most of the scientists, and they said, come up with systems of social control to divide and conquer people, to dumb them down, to take over government, to centralize control, to take over education, to render the public weak and impotent against us.
02:49:37.000 As Bertrand Russell said, through social engineering, that the elite finance, in his own words, A rebellion by the lower classes, or the proles, as he called it, he was using communist terminology, though he worked for the big money banks and was MI6 himself, and OSS before that, Nobel Prize winner.
02:49:55.000 He said, a rebellion by the proles.
02:49:58.000 Will be as unthinkable as a rebellion of sheep against the practice of eating mutton or sheep is what mutton means for those who don't know.
02:50:06.000 So they're saying we're blind dumb sheep that sheep don't rebel against their owner when they're getting slaughtered do they G. Edward?
02:50:13.000 Well no and cattle don't and a lot of all those domesticated animals don't and now we're back to Norman Dodd because what he discovered when he was talking with the heads of these tax-exempt foundations is that they were laying a master plan Which was, had as its goal, how to make the population of America docile, like cattle and sheep, and how to get them to accept all of these things without complaining.
02:50:40.000 And the strategy they came up with was absolutely brilliant.
02:50:44.000 Stay there, we're going to talk about that strategy on the other side, then bring it forward to current times, and then the future, with G. Edward Griffin.
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02:52:35.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
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02:54:02.000 What would you do if you knew all the things we know?
02:54:08.000 Would you stand up, would you?
02:54:10.000 Or would you turn away too?
02:54:12.000 And then what if you saw all of the things that's wrong?
02:54:18.000 Would you stand tall and strong?
02:54:21.000 Or would you turn away?
02:54:23.000 What would you do if you, you know the things we do?
02:54:28.000 Would you stand up for true?
02:54:31.000 Or would you turn away too?
02:54:34.000 And what if you saw all of the things that's wrong?
02:54:39.000 Would you stand tall and strong?
02:54:41.000 G. Edward Griffin is our guest with us about 45 minutes into the next hour.
02:54:46.000 Your phone calls are coming up.
02:54:48.000 Okay, G. Edward, you've got to the point of domestication and literally we have hundreds of textbooks, thousands of white papers, congressional reports, the foundations themselves, scientific dictatorship, global government to carry out a global police state, that's their quotes, to force one-child policy, sterilization, eugenics, Mainstream news reporting the elite are obsessed with this.
02:55:13.000 These are very very greedy people.
02:55:15.000 They want the life extension technologies.
02:55:16.000 They want the cancer cures for themselves.
02:55:19.000 They want total control.
02:55:20.000 They want it now.
02:55:21.000 So now Al Gore admits his new movies about how it's a religion.
02:55:26.000 How the environment's a religion.
02:55:28.000 They always plan to have the UN religion.
02:55:30.000 It's all now happening.
02:55:31.000 Please continue.
02:55:33.000 Well, yes, and just before the break we were talking about the strategy, the fact that this is not an accident.
02:55:39.000 This is not new.
02:55:40.000 The foundation for this was laid in strategic form well at the turn of the last century.
02:55:47.000 But we were talking about Norman Dodd.
02:55:48.000 I keep coming back to him because I think there's so much to be learned from his testimony.
02:55:54.000 And basically when he went in, he talked to the head of the Ford Foundation.
02:55:59.000 There's a guy by the name of Gaither, I think was his name.
02:56:02.000 And he said, Mr. Gaither, I would like very much to know what you folks are doing here.
02:56:09.000 And he said, without any hesitation, Gaither said, well, Mr. Dodd, I can tell you exactly what we're doing here.
02:56:16.000 He said, we are putting our resources to work so as to change the United States of America so it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.
02:56:28.000 Those were his exact words.
02:56:30.000 And Dodd said he almost fell off of his chair when he heard that.
02:56:33.000 And he said it wasn't just the Soviet Union.
02:56:35.000 It wasn't that.
02:56:36.000 It was communism that they wanted.
02:56:37.000 But the fact was, if you could merge the United States with the Soviet Union, which was at the opposite end, the people thought, of the political spectrum, well, you could merge it with any nation.
02:56:47.000 And that was the real goal, because they were trying to set up a merger process in which the United States would be merged with the Soviet Union, Red China, France, England, Germany, you know.
02:56:59.000 The world.
02:57:01.000 And he said, well, how can you do that?
02:57:04.000 And he got the answer when he visited the offices of the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace.
02:57:12.000 He said, you can take a look at our minute books and you can see what we do here.
02:57:18.000 And the answer came, here's the answer, the strategy that I'm finally building to.
02:57:22.000 They said the American people will never surrender their affinity to their legal system, their customs, their traditions.
02:57:31.000 You know, none of that.
02:57:32.000 The people in America are different and they'll never give up any of that unless, unless they're frightened into it.
02:57:41.000 If they thought that it was necessary in order to survive, Then they will give up everything because survival is the most basic instinct of all human beings.
02:57:51.000 And so therefore, if you're going to change life in the United States so it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union and any other totalitarian system in the world, you must make the United States a totalitarian system.
02:58:05.000 And the way to do that is to scare the people by getting them embroiled into wars.
02:58:10.000 And this is the amazing part.
02:58:13.000 The Carnegie Endowment Fund for Peace then plotted to get the United States into World War I and to prolong it, and they said, if you can get the American people into war and be afraid of their survival, they will accept a totalitarian government.
02:58:28.000 So let's be clear.
02:58:30.000 It is on record, in the congressional record, the foundations admit they started World War I and World War II to get the UN and the world government.
02:58:38.000 They are the warmongers.
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03:00:43.000 Let's go to Mark in Nevada.
03:00:46.000 Mark, you're on the air.
03:00:47.000 Good morning, Alex.
03:00:49.000 How are you doing today?
03:00:50.000 Pretty good, my friend.
03:00:52.000 I want to talk about stuff that's going on with the internet as well as the flu.
03:00:56.000 um The hundreds of different ways they're announcing they're going to tax, regulate, and shut it down?
03:01:02.000 It's official, yes.
03:01:04.000 The secret copyright treaty now leaked?
03:01:08.000 You can take this for what it's worth, but from internal sources, from one person that was a former employee at Fort Detrick Bioweapons Laboratory in Maryland, that then went to the CDC as well.
03:01:22.000 As someone who was very high-ranking military that, from what I understand, got direct info from Northern Command.
03:01:30.000 This was back in April.
03:01:31.000 They both said that when the original swine flu was talked about by the mainstream media, that they said that they were coming and that this was the endgame right there.
03:01:45.000 That this was a bio-engineered weapon.
03:01:49.000 Dr. A. Truat, who you've heard of, He has a paper that he wrote where he, one of the interesting things he cites is that this, that that virus was engineered using the PROMIS software.
03:02:03.000 That, which is the same stuff that Michael Ricconi-Shuto, who was a former CIA scientist, built a backdoor for in the 80s.
03:02:13.000 Well, PROMIS software is to track financial operations and stocks and bond trading.
03:02:19.000 What do you mean it was used to right the virus?
03:02:22.000 It's, well, it was originally, it was, okay, later, when it was originally developed, it didn't have those capabilities that I'm talking about, but later, artificial intelligence capabilities were added to it by GE Aerospace and have since been greatly expanded by a place artificial intelligence capabilities were added to it by GE Aerospace and have since been greatly expanded by a place called the System This is...
03:02:47.000 This is cited directly from the guy who was the Chief Scientist for P-TECH, Dr. Hussein Ibrahim, who Indira Singh mentions in her In her testimony regarding this.
03:03:01.000 And basically the software is used to analyze, it's run on supercomputers and they use it to analyze the genetic sequencing using something called reverse genetics.
03:03:10.000 Well I know that's what IBM and the Human Genome are doing at the Eugenics Headquarters, Cold Springs Harbor.
03:03:17.000 And this can be backed up by research if you just, you can independently verify this.
03:03:23.000 Well do this, write us an article because I think I recognize your voice, you've written some good Info at the Prison Planet Forum.
03:03:30.000 Why don't you write it all up?
03:03:31.000 Send it to writers and info wars dot com.
03:03:33.000 I appreciate I appreciate your call.
03:03:38.000 I know that a few months ago there was that Israeli spy who they said was threatening the White House and they were were gassing his car and no one knew how for hours he could take the tear gas and then they grabbed him and it did turn out that he reportedly called into radio shows And had warned everybody that there was going to be a bioweapon release in the flu vaccine.
03:03:58.000 And I've tried to look over that and it's not completely substantiated, but very interesting.
03:04:04.000 And we are trying to look into it.
03:04:05.000 There's just so much happening.
03:04:06.000 But thank you so much for reminding me of that report.
03:04:10.000 We put links to it.
03:04:11.000 Kurt Nimmo wrote a story two days ago with a hyperlink at the bottom to some of the sites that are reporting that.
03:04:16.000 And Kurt said, you know, we can't prove this, but this is what people are saying.
03:04:20.000 And ask other researchers to Look into that for themselves, but there's no doubt the globalists are moving on every front.
03:04:28.000 There is no doubt That we are in a very, very serious time right now.
03:04:33.000 We're going to go to break and come back with Congressman Ron Paul.
03:04:36.000 We're going to start simulcasting the radio show live on the internet via television at PrisonPlanet.tv as we fight the construction of the prison planet.
03:04:45.000 We'll talk to Ron Paul about his speaking tour, about the impending death of the dollar, about the flu, Afghanistan, the Republicans' big win in New Jersey and Virginia.
03:04:55.000 We'll talk about a whole bunch of issues, Obama's Cybersecurity Act as well.
03:05:01.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
03:05:05.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.
03:05:08.000 As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
03:05:13.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
03:05:19.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?
03:05:22.000 Bernanke?
03:05:23.000 They're arsonists!
03:05:23.000 They're asking for more matches!
03:05:24.000 to pay attention.
03:05:24.000 Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.
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03:05:35.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.
03:05:37.000 They're asking for more matches.
03:05:38.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
03:05:41.000 Today, it seems like nobody does care.
03:05:43.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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03:08:26.000 It is Thursday, the fifth day of November 2009, and for the next 20 minutes or so, Congressman Ron Paul joins us from Capitol Hill, and there is a lot to talk about today.
03:08:39.000 First off, out of the gates, you obviously got 290 plus sponsors to begin the audit of the private secret of Federal Reserve.
03:08:48.000 You've talked this week about some maneuvers by some of the committee chairmen to gut the bill.
03:08:53.000 Can you give us an update on where your legislation is going, Congressman?
03:08:58.000 Well, actually right now we have 309 and that's 130 some Democrats as well as all the Republicans.
03:09:05.000 And at one time, Mel Watt had indicated to me that he would get a provision put in the bill by Barney Frank, which would be a very, very limited version of an audit, which would be a distraction, if nothing else.
03:09:19.000 Even though the little bit he was doing, it was okay, it was just so small, it was canceling out most of what I wanted to do.
03:09:26.000 But his provision didn't get put into the bill.
03:09:28.000 We're now in the middle of doing the bill.
03:09:31.000 I thought there was even a chance today that I would get to offer my amendment, which is 1207, to the bill.
03:09:37.000 But it was just announced a few minutes ago that Barney Frank said that, well, the controversial type of amendments won't be done until after the Labor Day or the Veterans Day break, which is next week.
03:09:49.000 So it won't be this week and it won't be next week, but the following week.
03:09:53.000 I suspect they're just lining up their ducks and there'll probably be lots of attempts to water things down.
03:09:58.000 But I don't know.
03:09:59.000 We'll have to wait and see.
03:10:02.000 We're in the middle of it.
03:10:02.000 We're coming close to at least a initial climax of the bill on what the banking committee will do.
03:10:09.000 And it has to survive there.
03:10:12.000 It has to come out there pretty whole or things won't look so good for us.
03:10:17.000 But I'm cautiously optimistic about it.
03:10:19.000 But the momentum's clearly shifted.
03:10:21.000 Twenty-something years ago, you might get two or three co-sponsors.
03:10:24.000 Now you have over 300, a giant House majority.
03:10:27.000 So the momentum is shifting against the secretive organization.
03:10:32.000 Yeah, and if we can get a clean vote, I can't imagine very many wanting to be on record to vote against this.
03:10:39.000 It's just going to give them a lot of grief, especially...
03:10:43.000 Congressman?
03:10:47.000 Okay.
03:10:53.000 Okay.
03:10:53.000 Amen.
03:10:53.000 Amen.
03:10:54.000 Thank you.
03:10:55.000 Phone system glitch.
03:10:57.000 We will get Congressman Ron Paul back on with us in just a moment.
03:11:02.000 Tell you, we got gremlins in our phone system or the congressman does.
03:11:09.000 I I got a whole host of important questions that I want to ask the Congressman here today.
03:11:20.000 And we're going to be going over those Here in just a moment with him.
03:11:26.000 Like the death of the dollar, the flu situation, Afghanistan, the big Republican wins in New Jersey, and Virginia.
03:11:35.000 And a lot more.
03:11:36.000 All right.
03:11:46.000 and And of course we will post this archived Up at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
03:11:58.000 Okay, Congressman, got you back quickly.
03:12:00.000 Thank you.
03:12:02.000 Congressman, that is a phone system situation happening, obviously, on their end. - So we will try to get Congressman Ron Paul back on right now.
03:12:22.000 In the meantime, we do have Joe Rogan joining us later in studio today, and Lawrence J. Kotlikoff.
03:12:32.000 He, of course, is a Boston University professor of economics, to discuss the McClatchy newspaper article that he was quoted in, that we have been discussing.
03:12:50.000 Al Goldman Sachs secretly bet on the U.S.
03:12:54.000 housing crash.
03:12:55.000 Okay, maybe three's the charm.
03:12:56.000 Congressman, do we have you?
03:12:58.000 I'm back.
03:12:58.000 I don't know what happened.
03:13:00.000 Gremlins in the House switchboard.
03:13:03.000 Okay, you were finishing up with the Fed.
03:13:05.000 On monetary policy, Congressman, you've long talked about the central banks using the dollar to prop up the empire.
03:13:13.000 Now the G20's discussing abandoning the dollar.
03:13:18.000 What is happening from your research perspective with the dollar right now, and what will happen if the dollar is fully abandoned?
03:13:25.000 I don't think anybody knows right now.
03:13:27.000 If they just let it go and the dollar's rejected, then it'll be... people will have to resort to sound money, and they'd have to resort to commodity money.
03:13:36.000 But, as you say, the G20 or the IMF and the world leaders, so to speak, are going to try to replace it.
03:13:44.000 I think the market has replaced the dollar reserve standard.
03:13:48.000 They've gotten rid of that.
03:13:49.000 I don't think they can rebuild on that.
03:13:51.000 So they are rushing around trying to figure out what they'll replace it with.
03:13:56.000 I think what they'll try to do is come up with a basket of currencies.
03:13:59.000 They even might be tempted to put a little bit of gold in there, but it's not going to suffice.
03:14:04.000 If they don't have even a little bit of gold, even if they come up with another worldwide fiat standard, I don't think it's going to convey trust.
03:14:12.000 I think they're behind.
03:14:14.000 They're between the rock and the hard place, and it's not going to be easy for them to push something on us.
03:14:19.000 Absolutely.
03:14:19.000 But one thing for sure, I think there's going to be a lot of chaos, and I think there's going to be a lot more economic problems and more poverty and more, you know, depression in the world just because of this.
03:14:30.000 Absolutely.
03:14:32.000 So just to be clear, you agree with the big economic headlines we've seen the last month that the dollar as the world reserve currency has been abandoned.
03:14:43.000 China, India, the European Union, the Arabs are now buying more foreign currencies than they are the dollar.
03:14:50.000 They still hold an overall majority of dollars at around 62 to 63 percent, but they are now abandoning the dollar as reserve currency.
03:14:58.000 A, do you agree with that?
03:14:59.000 B, what will this do to our economy?
03:15:03.000 Well, it's going to hurt the economy.
03:15:04.000 I wouldn't say it's abandoned, but it's less important all the time.
03:15:08.000 I mean, the fact that they can still have 60% reserves means it's still there.
03:15:14.000 But I look at the market signals, and I think the thing that happened this week was very, very significant.
03:15:20.000 That is when the IMF announces that they're going to dump 200 tons of gold on the market.
03:15:25.000 Well, you know, ordinarily, a person would think, and they were hoping, well, a lot of that gold out there, that's going to drive down the price of gold and make all the fiat currencies look better.
03:15:34.000 But what happened?
03:15:35.000 A bank from Asia, India, buys the whole lot.
03:15:39.000 Which sent a signal, I think, to the world markets that, in essence, gold has been remonetized.
03:15:46.000 It never gets demonetized, but it has less importance as money when all the countries reject it.
03:15:52.000 But I think this is a major, major signal that the dollar's getting closer, it's on its last legs, and gold is getting more important.
03:16:00.000 And as the Chinese buy less and less, they have already started buying gold.
03:16:04.000 And they don't want to buy too much too fast and shoot the price up too quickly.
03:16:10.000 I think that's coming.
03:16:11.000 I think the gold price is destined to go a lot higher.
03:16:13.000 The dollar is going to go a lot lower.
03:16:15.000 And they cannot dethrone gold.
03:16:19.000 They can disrupt and play these games for a long, long time.
03:16:23.000 But in many ways, this is very, very good because it tells us that the governments no longer can get away with just printing money to finance their schemes.
03:16:31.000 And it's their schemes that are so damaging to us, whether it's the welfare or the warfare.
03:16:36.000 It all hurts the people because they have to pay the bills.
03:16:39.000 So some of these things are good signals, although it means that we have to be concerned about the chaos that might erupt.
03:16:46.000 Absolutely.
03:16:49.000 Congressman, the private central banks, as you know, are financing the Copenhagen Treaty.
03:16:55.000 I have the treaty here in front of me, all 200 pages of the Framework Convention on Climate Change.
03:17:01.000 It states, as Ban Ki-moon wrote last week in the New York Times, that this is global governance and that select groups of private interest ...are going to be able to decide who can have a factory, who can have a business.
03:17:18.000 They can decide who's going to get the carbon credits.
03:17:21.000 This scheme was designed by Ken Lay, as Congress has reported.
03:17:25.000 The Senate committee has now approved the climate bill, as Reuters reports.
03:17:33.000 If our economy under globalization and NAFTA and GATT is already sputtering, what's going to happen if we allow the very same central banks to create this new derivative system?
03:17:43.000 Well, if it works, it'll work for a short while, and companies like Goldman Sachs and a few others will rip us off, and they'll, you know, get even more wealth.
03:17:52.000 But it cannot help the economy.
03:17:54.000 It has to hurt the economy.
03:17:55.000 And it can't possibly help the environment, because they're totally off track on that.
03:18:00.000 It might turn out to be one of the biggest hoaxes of all history, this whole global warming terrorism that they've been using.
03:18:07.000 So, we'll have to just wait and see.
03:18:09.000 But it cannot be helpful.
03:18:10.000 It's going to hurt everybody.
03:18:13.000 What's the inside baseball word in Congress?
03:18:16.000 Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer say they're going to be able to pass it this year or next year, but more and more evidence on the ground shows that we're going to be able to beat the House and Senate version of the climate bill that is meant to tie into the Copenhagen UN takeover.
03:18:33.000 I think there is a chance, and I think these elections might send a signal.
03:18:38.000 I think the continual presence of the Tea Party movement and the people speaking out might wake them up finally, you know, and say, hey, maybe we are doing too much too fast, and they might back off.
03:18:51.000 Right now, they're not absolutely positive they have the votes on this medical bill.
03:18:56.000 We'll know shortly whether the House will see if they have the votes.
03:18:59.000 They think the House can do it faster than the Senate.
03:19:01.000 They're going to try to do that on Saturday of this week.
03:19:04.000 But they have two problems.
03:19:08.000 It's not automatic, and thank goodness for radio talk shows and the internet for us to get this information out.
03:19:13.000 That's what's rallying the troops.
03:19:15.000 It certainly is in the mainstream media.
03:19:17.000 Speaking of the internet, we're talking to Congressman Ron Paul.
03:19:20.000 We now have the Cybersecurity Act.
03:19:23.000 Three days ago, finally, the national security blocked.
03:19:29.000 Copyright treaty has now leaked and it says open taxing, open regulation of the web, ICANN being handed over to the UN, total control, guilty until proven innocent, copyright rules, shutting down websites, ISPs, and really UN control over the internet.
03:19:48.000 Where do you stand on that, Congressman?
03:19:51.000 Well, it's very frightening, and I think that if they're successful, let's just hope that internet is too big and too complex for them ever to have controls, but they're making... This is not a drill.
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03:24:00.000 About the time we're going to have all these flu shots coming in and not have the flu shot that maybe is much more important.
03:24:06.000 The point being, why should they be in charge?
03:24:09.000 And why should we turn over our health care to these clowns who are trying to distribute, you know, a vaccine?
03:24:16.000 So either way, it's a point that we shouldn't be doing it.
03:24:20.000 On top of that, all over the country, schools are injecting children even when their parents say don't do it.
03:24:25.000 And the schools are saying, oops, it's an accident.
03:24:28.000 Clearly, that's premeditated.
03:24:30.000 But shifting gears now, we saw Republican wins in New Jersey and Virginia.
03:24:37.000 The president's approval rating when he was first elected up in the 80s, now down in the low 40s.
03:24:43.000 But Republicans still, by and large, have low approval ratings, unless they're like yourself, who's actually a constitutionalist.
03:24:49.000 We know that in 2010, there's going to be a huge backlash.
03:24:54.000 Republicans will take back a lot of seats, but if they don't deliver on smaller government and fiscal sound constitutional policies, Then we're going to have a real crisis on our hands, and if we wait to get politically active until 2011 into 2012, so much of this globalization would have already been expanded and submitted.
03:25:15.000 I know that this is still off in the future, but LA Times, New York Times, everybody's talking.
03:25:21.000 I get calls every day.
03:25:22.000 Saying, when is Ron Paul going to announce for 2012?
03:25:26.000 Because if you announce early, you can build the coalition, you can get an even more elevated position in the media, you can speak for the people that don't want war, that don't want big government, that don't want banker bailouts.
03:25:40.000 If you wait to announce until 2011, after your congressional win coming up, but I guess I'm being presumptive.
03:25:49.000 I mean, you're not even saying you're going to announce in 2011.
03:25:53.000 No, I'm still thinking a lot about that right now.
03:25:56.000 It just doesn't seem like the best thing to do, even long term or even on a short term basis.
03:26:03.000 So I'm not, I'm just undecided about the whole thing, you know, so I'm not about to say that I'm planning to do one thing or another.
03:26:13.000 I think you make some good points, but I think time is still, it's still a little bit early to start talking about it.
03:26:21.000 But so much is happening, and if you step up even further, and no one's saying that you haven't done more than anybody else, and start building the coalition now, I'd really, unless there's massive election fraud, I see no way that you could lose the Republican primary.
03:26:40.000 I mean, how can we allow a rhino, someone who's not really a constitutionalist, like another McCain, another Mitt Romney, To lead conservatives and libertarians down another rat hole.
03:26:53.000 I mean, you are the man for the job.
03:26:55.000 And I don't pretend to understand your political strategy.
03:26:58.000 I know you're much more intelligent and wise than I am and have more experience.
03:27:02.000 It just makes perfect sense for at least sometime in the next six to eight months To announce, but you're saying you're not even sure at this time.
03:27:10.000 I mean, even if you didn't win, you would have huge fundraising.
03:27:13.000 You'd be able to buy ads.
03:27:14.000 You'd be all over the media.
03:27:16.000 You'll be the only candidate that will inject real issues.
03:27:19.000 I mean, you're the only man for the job.
03:27:20.000 I mean, fate and responsibility and destiny says that you are the man for the job.
03:27:26.000 Alex, you have to realize you're not the average Republican primary voter.
03:27:33.000 You're a little bit more optimistic about what we might be able to do.
03:27:38.000 We still have a lot to contend with when you get involved in partisan politics.
03:27:42.000 You followed that stuff that was going on over in Nevada, how they really handle us.
03:27:46.000 I think we'll do better if we ever did it again.
03:27:49.000 But, you know, they just close down the shop if they think you're going to win.
03:27:54.000 So you have a lot of obstacles to overcome.
03:27:57.000 But the most important thing, and this is what you've emphasized as well, politics are very important, but also is getting these issues out and talking about the philosophy and why we need it and get the people energized.
03:28:10.000 And that should be ongoing.
03:28:11.000 Of course, that's why we keep Campaign for Liberty moving in that direction, because People have to understand things like the Federal Reserve.
03:28:18.000 Just think, a couple years ago, not too many people even talked about the Federal Reserve.
03:28:22.000 And now, they can do national polling on the Federal Reserve to get opinion.
03:28:26.000 So, in that sense, I think we're making progress.
03:28:28.000 Exactly.
03:28:29.000 We've gone from almost no one knowing it's a private cartel to over 75% wanting an audit or for it to be abolished.
03:28:36.000 It's only a win-win for you to run because it will elevate you, it will have you in the debates, and I don't see any way you won't run unless you've got medical problems and you're in great shape.
03:28:47.000 You look like you're 60, Congressman, and I'm just begging you for millions of other people to kick off the campaign sooner rather than later.
03:28:55.000 I want to commend you for, you know, helping to get your son to run for the Senate.
03:29:00.000 People need to get behind him right now.
03:29:02.000 And as you said, The biggest movement now in the universities isn't the burnout fake left or the burnout fake right.
03:29:09.000 It is the libertarian, free market, non-collectivist movement that you have helped to grow and energize.
03:29:16.000 And you are the omnibudsman of liberty, the leading light for freedom worldwide, as even the Czech president has said.
03:29:23.000 And I just want to salute you and thank you.
03:29:26.000 In closing, we've got 30 seconds.
03:29:28.000 Are they going to be able to ram through the government takeover of healthcare?
03:29:31.000 Oh, they're going to get it through the House, but whether the whole thing gets through, I think they'll get part of it, but not the whole thing.
03:29:36.000 So, uh, we'll wait and see.
03:29:39.000 And we've adapted in this country to incrementalism.
03:29:42.000 We never socialize all at once.
03:29:44.000 We just take it by pieces and think that we've really resisted something.
03:29:48.000 So unfortunately, it's going to get worse rather than better.
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03:33:11.000 We just got a chance to hear Congressman Ron Paul on with us, though the Capitol switchboard cut though the Capitol switchboard cut him off twice. - I've heard him on other radio shows when that happens.
03:33:36.000 He must have somebody in that office.
03:33:40.000 A trained gorilla or something somewhere in the Capitol building that's running the switchboard.
03:33:46.000 I could get more conspiratorial and say that they were knocking him off air with us, but that's probably not the case.
03:33:52.000 Let's go ahead and take some phone calls right now.
03:34:00.000 We got this economist coming up.
03:34:02.000 I got a bunch of other news I want to hit as well.
03:34:04.000 Plus, there's a video clip of Robert Kennedy Jr.
03:34:08.000 on television talking about What vaccines are doing to people.
03:34:16.000 And you've got all these Hollywood stars coming out.
03:34:18.000 You've got even people like Bill Maher coming out against vaccines.
03:34:22.000 You've got the founder of Smashing Pumpkins coming out against vaccines.
03:34:27.000 You've got all these politicians coming out against vaccines.
03:34:30.000 It shows how the media and the vaccine cult keeps telling us we're kooks, telling us we're liars, saying there's no mercury, saying it can't brain damage you, we're mentally ill.
03:34:41.000 And that's only discrediting them.
03:34:43.000 And the momentum has clearly not just shifted against the vaccine pushers, but has fully shifted against them.
03:34:50.000 It's a route now.
03:34:52.000 And that's why you have this attempted hype with a non-pandemic flu strain.
03:34:56.000 A flu strain that's very weak compared to the regular seasonal flu.
03:34:59.000 That's why you have this incredible hype.
03:35:01.000 It's an attempt of them to say, you don't want shots?
03:35:03.000 You want to break the precedent and the mind control that you've got to take the Gardasil shot and all these other vaccines and Hepatitis shot?
03:35:11.000 Oh yeah, we're going to scare you.
03:35:12.000 We're going to hype it.
03:35:13.000 We're going to stage artificial scarcity of the vaccine and say we don't have enough of it.
03:35:18.000 And stage events where we tell people come down and get the free shot and then we don't have any of it to show people panicking.
03:35:23.000 We're going to throw everything we've got at you to try to manipulate you and it's not working.
03:35:29.000 Again, the globalists are in trouble on every front.
03:35:32.000 75 plus percent of Americans in Gallup polls wanted abolished or audited.
03:35:37.000 Over 90 percent of Americans want to get rid of NAFTA and GATT.
03:35:41.000 Obama had to lie and say he was going to get rid of it to get elected.
03:35:44.000 Now he says, I never said that.
03:35:47.000 We have that in fall of the republic.
03:35:50.000 A lot of good things are happening.
03:35:51.000 We're going to go to your phone calls, but let's go ahead and play this Robert Kennedy clip right now.
03:35:55.000 Now, here it is. - The generate, what happened was the vaccine schedule was increased.
03:36:07.000 We went up from receiving about 10 vaccines in our generation to these kids received 24 vaccines and they all had this thimerosal and this mercury and nobody bothered to do an analysis of what the cumulative impact of all that mercury was doing to kids.
03:36:24.000 As it turns out, we are injecting our children With 400 times the amount of mercury that FDA or EPA considers safe.
03:36:32.000 A child on his first day that he's born is injected with a hepatitis B shot.
03:36:38.000 Under EPA guidelines, he would have to be 275 pounds to safely absorb that shot.
03:36:44.000 And yet we're just constantly pumping our kids with these vaccines.
03:36:47.000 Where's the federal government on this?
03:36:48.000 what happened what happened was that on that in nineteen eighty eight one in every twenty five hundred american children had autism Today, one in every 166 children have autism.
03:37:02.000 And plus, one in six children have other kinds of learning disorders, other kinds of neurological disorders, speech delay, language disorders, ADD, hyperactivity.
03:37:11.000 That all seem to be connected, that are all connected, the science shows are all connected to autism.
03:37:17.000 You know, Bobby, we've always found, you and I could debate a thousand different issues, whether it's Terry Shiva or the environment, I think would agree on the environment.
03:37:26.000 But in this case, you've got the federal government coming and saying, well, there's no really, there's no good science.
03:37:30.000 And of course, in politics, science always gets diluted.
03:37:34.000 Why hasn't the federal government stepped up?
03:37:37.000 And it worked more, because listen, Bobby, I can't prove it tonight, you can't prove it, but intuitively, you look at the spike, you look at what happened with the Mirosol, there is no doubt in my mind, maybe it's two years from now, maybe it's five years from now, maybe it's ten years from now, we're gonna find out that the Mirosol causes, in my opinion, autism.
03:37:57.000 The science is out there today, for anybody who bothers to read it, and I have read it, Actually, on my website this week, robertfkennedyjr.com, I'm publishing an article that goes through all of the science.
03:37:57.000 You know what?
03:38:10.000 But the science is clear, and what happens is, I read the science at first, and there's literally hundreds and hundreds of studies that connect thimerosal to these disastrous neurological disorders.
03:38:22.000 Then I went, I talked to the scientists, then I went and I talked to the federal bureaucrats who are defending thimerosal, and I said, what are you relying on?
03:38:31.000 And I looked at the science they're relying on, and I can tell you, Joe, it is so weak, and you and I have seen, you know, legal practice with junk science, and we know You know what these phony scientists are who create this stuff.
03:38:42.000 It happens in big tobacco.
03:38:43.000 It happens in big oil.
03:38:44.000 It's happening in global warming.
03:38:46.000 And now it's happening in a way that's impacting our kids' lives.
03:38:50.000 This is classic tobacco science.
03:38:52.000 It is junk science.
03:38:53.000 And I was looking at these reports and saying, this is the best.
03:38:56.000 This is what you're relying on.
03:38:58.000 They know it's fraudulent, and now we have the transcripts... Explain it to me, Bobby, okay?
03:39:02.000 I mean, explain it to me if that's the case.
03:39:05.000 You and I both know about politics, obviously.
03:39:08.000 Politicians like to get re-elected.
03:39:10.000 Why are they sitting back and letting... If our children are being poisoned, if the science is there, why are they sitting back and letting our children be poisoned?
03:39:19.000 Because the same regulatory bureaucrats that green-lighted Flint-Marisol originally Absolutely.
03:39:28.000 What is Robert Kennedy Jr.
03:39:29.000 talking about?
03:39:29.000 PYA operation.
03:39:30.000 And they're working with the pharmaceutical industry, and we now have the transcripts of this secret meeting that they did in Simpsonwood, Georgia, in the year 2000.
03:39:39.000 And it's the most horrifying thing that you can read, Joe.
03:39:42.000 There are scientists there from the government who are reading the reports and saying, this is undeniable.
03:39:48.000 Absolutely.
03:39:50.000 What is Robert Kennedy Jr. talking about?
03:39:52.000 In 2000, and it's happened several other times, used congressional power to force CDC to release secret documents to them.
03:40:03.000 And then several congressmen who have brain damaged children and grandchildren released it.
03:40:09.000 Even though they weren't supposed to.
03:40:10.000 This was classified.
03:40:11.000 And it was the heads of the CDC and the scientists saying, I wouldn't give it to my grandchildren or my kids.
03:40:17.000 We've brain damaged millions.
03:40:19.000 And they say, well we gotta continue it.
03:40:21.000 We can't admit That we know this does this, or we'll all go to prison.
03:40:29.000 Now, they then, when that all came out in 2002, the documents were from 2000, but it took two years for it to come out.
03:40:37.000 It was even on ABC Nightly News.
03:40:42.000 Since then, they've lied and said the mercury was taken out.
03:40:47.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Under federal regulations, vaccine makers are supposed to, they don't always do this, make a small amount of non-mercury vaccines.
03:41:01.000 So that's all that happens.
03:41:03.000 Yes, are there vaccines without mercury?
03:41:05.000 Can the news hold up an insert of a vaccine that might be 1% of that type of vaccine that's out there?
03:41:11.000 It's even less than that in the studies I've seen.
03:41:13.000 Can you, if you're Andrea Merkel of Germany, or Gordon Brown of England, or Barack Obama and his daughters of USA, can you get one that doesn't have mercury?
03:41:23.000 Yes.
03:41:24.000 Can you go to an office and order it?
03:41:26.000 If you know what to ask for, they can order it, you can come back a week later and be shot up with it.
03:41:31.000 It's still got the cancer viruses.
03:41:33.000 It's still got the RNA.
03:41:35.000 It's still got the aluminum.
03:41:39.000 It's still all these foreign...
03:41:42.000 Because it's not just the viruses they're breeding up on caterpillar eggs and baby retinas and dog kidneys or monkey kidneys.
03:41:49.000 That's the main things they use.
03:41:52.000 Even most of the vaccine you hear about that's grown on eggs, the original virus for the original sample, the seed stock, is grown in tissue.
03:42:02.000 And then it's brought over and put in eggs.
03:42:04.000 But it's growing the same thing.
03:42:07.000 I mean, if I grow squash plants in a greenhouse, and then take those plant seeds out of the greenhouse, and go plant them out in the field, or up against a fence row next year, it's the same squash.
03:42:19.000 You understand that?
03:42:20.000 It's the same watermelons.
03:42:23.000 It's the same blueberries.
03:42:24.000 It's the same thing.
03:42:26.000 It's just they're children.
03:42:27.000 But the exact same genetics.
03:42:31.000 And they know this!
03:42:32.000 They know this!
03:42:34.000 They know this!
03:42:36.000 And Everyone is waking up now.
03:42:41.000 Literally, the vast majority, over 70% in US polls, think it's bad and don't want it.
03:42:47.000 But the media goes out and interviews 20, 30, 40, 50 people until they find the one person that will say they like it, and they put them on the news.
03:42:57.000 That's who they put on the news.
03:43:03.000 That's who they push.
03:43:07.000 And let me give you the news flash.
03:43:09.000 Four years ago, the Associated Press told the truth and reported, and the article said we don't know why, that all the major vaccine makers for hepatitis, for flu, for MMR, increased mercury.
03:43:24.000 They didn't just put it back in, they increased it, not one-fold, not double, not triple, not quadruple, Five times what the mercury was before.
03:43:38.000 So before, it was 400 times the safe level of mercury in a average one-year round of shots for a five-year-old.
03:43:49.000 400 times for their body weight.
03:43:50.000 It's not quite as bad with an adult.
03:43:52.000 It's like a big guy can drink more beer and not get drunk.
03:43:56.000 But for a child, imagine a newborn baby given three shots at birth.
03:43:59.000 Then six months later, five more shots.
03:44:01.000 Then when they're 18 months, more shots.
03:44:04.000 So, I see these fake studies by the media, and they're always deceptive.
03:44:08.000 Five minutes, you can prove they're a lie.
03:44:09.000 But when study shows, kids are still getting autism, even though mercury's out of the shots.
03:44:16.000 But then you go read the study, the study was done with regular vaccines.
03:44:20.000 I mean, ladies and gentlemen, they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie, and they lie.
03:44:28.000 But the good news here is, on the Federal Reserve, or on vaccines, or on the war, or on warrantless wiretapping, or the police state, in every poll, the majority, way over 70%, are against all this.
03:44:42.000 We're the people.
03:44:43.000 This is our country.
03:44:47.000 You can't make us do all this.
03:44:48.000 So the good news is, the momentum is shifting.
03:44:52.000 So the establishment is firing everything they've got at us in an attempt to make us capitulate.
03:44:59.000 And it's not going to work.
03:45:01.000 The police aren't bad.
03:45:02.000 Most of the FBI people aren't bad.
03:45:04.000 Most of them are investigating bank robberies and kidnappings.
03:45:07.000 It's the higher-up groups that are bad.
03:45:09.000 Most people in banking aren't bad.
03:45:10.000 They're just giving you a home loan.
03:45:12.000 It's the big bankers up at the top.
03:45:15.000 Most people in Congress aren't bad.
03:45:17.000 They're just corrupt and whores and competitive, so they sell out to be in power.
03:45:21.000 We have to get the message out about how bad this is if we continue along this line.
03:45:25.000 Now listen.
03:45:27.000 I'm going to come back in the next segment, the segment after that, and get through this bank of callers.
03:45:30.000 Have your questions and comments ready.
03:45:33.000 Woody, Malcolm, Raul, Eric, Derek, and Hawaiian others.
03:45:37.000 But I wanted to bring Ted Anderson up, and tomorrow I'm going to fish the clip out and play it.
03:45:44.000 Ron Paul said they tried to kill gold, it didn't work.
03:45:47.000 And that's what mainstream news is reporting.
03:45:49.000 They put hundreds of billions of dollars, in fact I have the Reuters article in my stack.
03:45:55.000 Ted didn't fill a cent on it.
03:45:56.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars.
03:45:58.000 What was it, a $200 billion buy?
03:45:59.000 They dumped this gold on the market, leveraged its trillions, thinking it would drive it down from above $1,000.
03:46:06.000 Instead, it shot up to $1,099.
03:46:07.000 And you heard it from Ron Paul, who's an economist, not just a medical doctor, saying they're going to lose the war on gold.
03:46:15.000 He believes it's only going to go up.
03:46:17.000 I don't know.
03:46:19.000 But all the smart money is on it going up, and at least as the dollar plunges and G20 meets to do it fully, they can't kill gold because it's real.
03:46:28.000 They may be able to drive it down for a while, doesn't look like that, but it will always beach ball back up like pushing a beach ball to the bottom of the pool.
03:46:34.000 Ted, take us out to break with what Ron Paul was saying earlier about gold.
03:46:41.000 And then today's gold offer.
03:46:43.000 Ted Anderson of Minus Resources.
03:46:44.000 Well, Alex, they've been playing those tricks.
03:46:47.000 I mean, going all the way back to the middle 1980s.
03:46:50.000 And we went to our market peak in 1980 where gold hit $800 an ounce, silver hit $50 an ounce, and then it started backing off down into 1982.
03:47:01.000 The central banks of the world, unitedly, had tried to suppress the market price of gold and keep it below $400 an ounce for the longest time.
03:47:12.000 Anybody that wants to have information on that can find it.
03:47:15.000 It's not like it's hidden.
03:47:16.000 You can go right over to G-A-T-A or GATA dot O-R-G.
03:47:22.000 That's G-A-T-A dot O-R-G.
03:47:25.000 Now, the latest thing is that, I mean, they do postings up there for just, you know, just recently as well.
03:47:31.000 And honestly, I mean, that's what I mean when I say that when the gold prices drop down And I'm able to buy in those dips.
03:47:40.000 Usually, most of the time that is occurring here in the New York market.
03:47:44.000 And the reason why it's happening is because the Federal Reserve System has such a Heavy interest in seeing the United States dollar stay strong and gold stay suppressed.
03:47:56.000 See, it's the game of the fiat currency makers is to try to keep you out of anything that stands in the way of their profit-making machine.
03:48:06.000 And I have to say that it is one insidious profit-making machine.
03:48:11.000 Because they have legal tender laws pointing at them that allows them to create the currency of the nation and they lend it to us and we have to service interest on that debt.
03:48:23.000 Now you have to realize what that means.
03:48:25.000 I mean, what has our country been doing here for the last at least 30 years is deficit spending.
03:48:32.000 So where does deficit spending, who does it help and who does it hurt?
03:48:38.000 Well, the United States people have to go into debt to get the currency, and you can see that the United States government has done nothing but deficit spending and put the taxpayers on the hook for even more and more and more of their hard-earned wages, and that money eventually filters right back up to this elite banking system.
03:48:59.000 And they have control of the world.
03:49:01.000 I mean, when Bill Clinton was in office, he would be telling you that this is going to happen in the economy and that and so on and so forth.
03:49:07.000 It was one of the few surpluses that we ever ran.
03:49:11.000 But back then, the United States people were going so far into debt that the government didn't have to.
03:49:16.000 You know, there just has never been a time since 1913 that the United States of America has been able to enjoy prosperity without having the equivalent increase in the debt.
03:49:30.000 And so it just puts people on the hook, you know, to such an extreme, it's ridiculous.
03:49:36.000 And we have the very parasites that have engineered this, not getting in trouble, but getting even more power now.
03:49:44.000 They're getting the bailout money, Alex.
03:49:46.000 We're having to even go further into this to give them the bailout money.
03:49:50.000 Which isn't bailout money.
03:49:51.000 They're using that to not loan and buy up real assets and they're bragging about it.
03:49:55.000 It's come out in McClatchy newspapers that Goldman Sachs secretly bet on the U.S.
03:50:00.000 housing crash to bring down their competitors.
03:50:03.000 I mean, this is a criminal group.
03:50:04.000 Ted, tell folks that you still have gold that you bought in the 920 market as it's up Let me say it this way, Alex.
03:50:15.000 Hold on just a second.
03:50:17.000 I was getting the numbers wrong there because I end up talking so fast.
03:50:21.000 You need to get that number right.
03:50:22.000 You still have gold at the $1,020 level of when you bought into the market with it now up at $1,090.
03:50:27.000 Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
03:50:30.000 That's the way to say it truthfully.
03:50:32.000 I have Franks currently right now at $238.
03:50:35.000 I have British Sovereigns at $293.
03:50:37.000 I have Walking Liberty Halves right now at $8.69.
03:50:41.000 And I'm also carrying the Lakota Nation Rounds at $22.30.
03:50:45.000 Alright, stay there, Ted.
03:50:48.000 Because I was just thinking back to two weeks ago when it was at nine-something again.
03:50:53.000 1,020 is now a super low that Ted bought it, and it's up at 1,090.
03:50:57.000 I mean, just getting my mind wrapped around... Hi, this is Steve Shank.
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03:53:58.000 You heard Ron Paul earlier say that he believes gold is only going to continue to explode upward.
03:54:20.000 The IMF sells billions and billions in gold, trying to drive it down like they've done the last few years.
03:54:24.000 It explodes.
03:54:27.000 And I believe Ron Paul's right.
03:54:28.000 They are failing.
03:54:29.000 Well, they admit they're failing to drive it down.
03:54:33.000 Ted, again, tell people the offer you've got.
03:54:36.000 So you've almost run out of gold you bought at the $1,020 level.
03:54:39.000 That sounds high, but it's actually low.
03:54:41.000 And it's up at $1,090 right now, pushed up to $1,099 yesterday.
03:54:47.000 Fire out the number for folks that want to call and talk to the brokers and order some silver and gold coins at great prices.
03:54:54.000 Yeah, the number is 1-800-686-2237.
03:54:59.000 Again, it's 1-800-686-2237, and Ron Paul's exactly right.
03:55:05.000 They create these little opportunities for me to buy gold law.
03:55:08.000 They sell their gold, they try to suppress it, they try to keep people away from gold, but they are losing in that battle.
03:55:15.000 And the reason is because the world wants to get away from the dollar, so every time they start selling, the rest of the world starts buying.
03:55:21.000 Because they want to get rid of their dollars and grab up the gold.
03:55:25.000 This has always worked in the past for them.
03:55:27.000 It's not working now.
03:55:28.000 Folks, the globalists are obsessed with gold and silver.
03:55:32.000 You need to get involved.
03:55:33.000 800-686-2237.
03:55:36.000 800-686-2237.
03:55:37.000 I believe people are insane if they don't take advantage of this offer.
03:55:44.000 Is anything perfect?
03:55:45.000 No, but it's as close as a silver bullet as you're going to get is silver and gold.
03:55:50.000 800-686-2237.
03:55:53.000 One more time.
03:55:53.000 800-686-2237.
03:55:54.000 And the brokers can hold those deals until midnight again, Ted?
03:56:00.000 Yeah, absolutely.
03:56:01.000 I'm real happy that the market's allowing me to do that, so you bet we'll hold it right through midnight.
03:56:06.000 Thank you, Ted Anderson.
03:56:09.000 Alright, let's go ahead now and go to Woody in Illinois.
03:56:12.000 Woody, thanks for holding.
03:56:13.000 Go ahead.
03:56:13.000 Hey Alex, how you doing today?
03:56:15.000 I just wanted to compliment you on your program to enlighten the general public on the plans of the global elitist to exterminate our population.
03:56:29.000 I've been doing my own research and I'd like everybody to look up HR 8791.
03:56:37.000 It's a house appropriations bill.
03:56:39.000 It's on YouTube.
03:56:40.000 You can see the representative from Pennsylvania talk about it.
03:56:40.000 You can pull it up.
03:56:44.000 And just about every other word out of his mouth as he's reading this bill is the word classified.
03:56:48.000 And it's Homeland Security Funding Appropriations Bill.
03:56:53.000 And it's designed in the event of some type of attack.
03:56:56.000 Alright, let me stop you.
03:56:57.000 Let me stop you.
03:56:59.000 There are real executive orders, Presidential Decision Directive 51, John Warner Defense Authorization Act, but what The Onion did is...
03:57:07.000 They, right after that broke last year, and real congressmen went to the floor and said basically what the Onion video says.
03:57:16.000 The Onion newspaper puts out fake news.
03:57:19.000 They almost copied it word for word and put the Onion on it to discredit it.
03:57:23.000 So that's not real.
03:57:25.000 But, in the Obama deception, we have the real clips.
03:57:29.000 Yes, I do.
03:57:29.000 Love them talking about that.
03:57:30.000 So I get these calls every week now, and people put flu executive order on it, again, to fool people.
03:57:38.000 Look at the lower right-hand corner.
03:57:40.000 There's an Onion there.
03:57:41.000 Do you know about the Onion newspaper?
03:57:44.000 Yes, I do.
03:57:45.000 Yes.
03:57:45.000 And you're not bad, Woody.
03:57:47.000 They just fooled you.
03:57:48.000 This is the type of diabolical crap they do, and I appreciate your call.
03:57:54.000 Here we have John Warner Defense Authorization Act, PDD-51 for martial law, the president to become a dictator.
03:58:01.000 all All these real congressmen, Senator Inhofe, all these real people.
03:58:08.000 Congressman Domenici coming out about it.
03:58:11.000 Talking about real things.
03:58:16.000 And then all anyone talks about is the onion with it's fake.
03:58:20.000 And that's what COINTELPRO does.
03:58:22.000 I'm not saying the onions COINTELPRO, but they might as well get a paycheck from the government.
03:58:26.000 Because now, anytime you talk about martial law legislation that's public, no one will look at it.
03:58:32.000 They'll pull the onion up, throw it right in your face.
03:58:36.000 That's how Black Ops works.
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