Alex Jones goes live from Austin, Texas and talks about the latest in the Al Gore scandal, the Shanksville shooting down of a commercial jet and the Green New Deal. Big Brother and the mainstream media are covering up the truth, and Alex has the answers.
00:01:56.000This will result in the deaths of more than a billion people in the first decade of these climate cuts.
00:02:01.000Now we have the secret text, which The Guardian has reported is real, the UN is very upset, that they plan to double the taxes on the third world, not the first world.
00:02:13.000That will result in more than a billion deaths.
00:02:15.000The tiny cuts that were set up would result in a billion.
00:02:19.000Fifteen million people starved to death a year conservatively.
00:02:31.000You patchouli-wearing, fake, liberal, brainwashed cult members who follow the religion of eugenics and go around preaching that humans are evil and parasites.
00:02:55.000It is private banks taking all of our money and going in and saying, you've got to do this and that, or we won't give your governments money, and the governments keep the money.
00:03:15.000I just want to say you're an inspiration to us all and hopefully people will awake.
00:03:19.000I have a quick question that I always wanted to ask you.
00:03:22.000Is there footage, video footage, of the plane being shot down over Shanksville, Pennsylvania?
00:03:28.000No, the state police reported F-16s and explosions, and the debris fill was eight and a half miles long, and all the local eyewitnesses said explosions in the air, and the tiny debris filled at Shanksville was just one engine in the ground.
00:04:05.000Yes, and at this event, Maury Strong is also wanted for oil for food, robbing the money that was supposed to go to the Iraqi people for himself.
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00:08:32.000I wanted to get Patrick Henningsen, who was a mainline environmental activist involved trying to save the rainforest, and then he would try to go talk to these globalist organizations about, well, if we sell carbon credits, can we, you know, use this to buy up rainforest, which he was able to do, and they said, no, this isn't about that, it's about money.
00:08:53.000And now in the Copenhagen Treaty, we learned two days ago that they plan on cutting double the emissions in the third world than in the first world, which will admittedly kill more than a billion people.
00:09:07.000Billions and billions of people are on the edge of starvation, 15 plus million starve to death every year.
00:09:14.000The globalist state in their own textbooks, they want to use starvation and war, State Department Memorandum 200 to do this.
00:09:21.000All of you hippies and fake liberals and trendies, don't you notice all the oil companies are on the news financing the Hoppenhagen garbage?
00:09:29.000Don't you notice that the NFL's behind it and all the media's behind it?
00:09:34.000The IMF and World Bank, now it turns out will control all the money.
00:09:38.000The big central banks that have raped the third world.
00:09:42.000They've got all these fake, spray-painted, Hopenhagen signs up everywhere that are meant to look like grass roots all over Copenhagen.
00:09:51.000To make it look like it's grass roots and from the people.
00:09:55.000This is a global revolution against the people, and there's no more time for denial.
00:10:01.000In all the UN documents, in all the plans, they state that once this grid's in place, they want a bankrupt, industrialized society to force you to only have one child.
00:10:12.000Then they say they're going to phase that out next, and put taxes on even one child.
00:10:17.000Financial Post of Canada today, we see these every day.
00:10:22.000Ladies and gentlemen, I am knee-deep in the documentation.
00:10:38.000The UN's own numbers show that by 2022, That the Earth's population will plane off at 8.2 to 8.7 billion, then it will start drastically falling.
00:10:50.000If they ever allowed the third world to industrialize, even the British Royal Commission of 1949 said this, that would have caused a massive population reduction, even if you believe we're overpopulated.
00:10:59.000Because in industrialized countries, on average, have a 1.3 population replacement.
00:11:03.000Two parents, two baby boomers, have on average 1.3 children.
00:11:08.000That number's even dropping faster in Italy and Japan.
00:11:37.000Alright, I want to go to Patrick Henningsen.
00:11:40.000We had him on yesterday, but we had to cut him short.
00:11:42.000I wanted him to recap the story of how he's a real environmental activist that found out the truth, what he's seen in the last 24 hours in Copenhagen, Lord Monckton's talk being taken over by Brownshirts, and also plug some of his websites.
00:12:30.000No, well, firstly, I know that the U.N.
00:12:34.000spent, you know, tens and tens of thousands of dollars branding the Copenhagen Summit as Hopenhagen, but I won't take credit for this, but Christopher Monckton re-coined the conference the other day, and it's in our film, which is online, and I think we should call it Dopenhagen from here on out, because that's exactly what you're looking at.
00:13:02.000We spent the last couple days speaking to people from the developing world, scientists.
00:13:07.000We're going to be speaking to the parliamentary members of Mozambique tomorrow to talk about how the whole Copenhagen Summit is really kind of a ruse.
00:13:17.000They're using the developing world to get people, the left-wingers and the environmentalists and the activists, I really feel sorry about the plight of people in Africa, but really, the developing world is the one who's going to get the short end of the stick.
00:13:31.000Look, you've got to go to the African delegation and go, you know the IMF and World Bank have raped you by design, their documents have been public since 2002, how they do it by design.
00:13:41.000They are going to get all this tax money and use it to further de-industrialize you.
00:13:48.000No, we spoke to, we went down to the pit of the beast, which was the Outside of the summit, they have something called the Climate Forum, which is really where all this sort of anarchists and traditional left-wing activists that get important... Let's call them Nazi murderers, people that want to slaughter the third world, degenerate foundation, banker-funded, fake left-cover opposition, the absolute most dangerous people on Earth.
00:14:20.000Some of these are provocateurs woven into this, but the overwhelming majority of these sort of people are middle-class dropouts.
00:14:30.000They're sort of the, if you will, the hired Hessians of the left that come in for any event.
00:14:36.000We saw them at the G20 in London wearing balaclavas, not really knowing why they're there, but they're there just because they want to bring capitalism down or something like this.
00:14:46.000Now, it's very dangerous because we asked about a couple of dozen people a simple question, which is going to be in our film, which we're going to post online the next couple of days.
00:14:55.000If you had the choice, if you had $500 billion in your hands today, and you had the choice to either eliminate poverty in Africa and provide clean water for third world countries, or to combat climate change, which might happen in 100 or 50 or 200 years, 10 out of 10 of the people who are from Europe or America They said, well, I think climate change is more important than, you know, saving lives today in Africa.
00:15:22.000I mean, that is in eco-science that, well, we're atheists, but people have got to have a religion.
00:15:28.000We're going to make climate change a new religion.
00:15:31.000Sure, and people were espousing this idea of a utopia where, well, you know, people, 200,000 people a year are dying because of climate change in Africa.
00:15:42.000I don't know where these figures come from or how they, you know, sea levels are not rising.
00:15:46.000Those numbers are as real as man-bear-pig.
00:15:49.000Yeah, the Earth is not getting warmer.
00:15:51.000I don't see how climate change is killing people in Africa.
00:15:55.000Now, we spoke to Africans and every, almost every single African we spoke to said, no, I will take that $500 billion and I will eliminate poverty and provide clean water and lower infant mortality, eliminate malaria.
00:17:08.000I talk about the fact that there is a global decline in temperature.
00:17:12.000You can actually get them to open their mind and they will come around.
00:17:15.000But when you're talking to people briefly, talking to groups of people, the groups of people, the Nazis understood mass psychology really well.
00:17:22.000Some of these same principles, you know, hope, change, save the planet.
00:17:28.000These sort of mass concepts really work well on a mass scale.
00:17:32.000And so this battle that we're going to have to fight is going to be won one mind at a time.
00:17:37.000It's going to be won one person at a time.
00:17:39.000And if everybody goes out and does a little bit, gets proactive, talks to their neighbors, talks to their family, talks to their co-workers, and wins this battle one person at a time, eventually, when you turn a mind, when a mind is woken up, it will never go to sleep again.
00:17:53.000Patrick, let me ask you this question.
00:17:55.000It's been reported that the third world countries, the developing countries, are freaking out over the text of the treaty that states they have to make most of the cuts and that it's an IMF, World Bank, private system that's going to run it.
00:18:09.000Do they understand that the previous smaller cuts were going to kill a billion people over the next decade?
00:18:15.000Do they understand this is even more monstrous?
00:18:17.000I mean, do these feel good, lazy, trust fund punks realize that they're having a hand in mass murder?
00:18:29.000You know, a lot of the people who are activists and who come to these events or who are sort of green warriors, as it were, they're really like holdouts from the Beat Generation, just a sort of updated version of it.
00:18:42.000And, you know, what you're talking about, Alex, are facts.
00:19:39.000And all these small countries like Equatorial New Guinea and Mozambique, they don't have nearly the political clout that the United States or the European countries have, but they already see through what is probably... Good!
00:20:58.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
00:21:04.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
00:21:08.000As we're finishing off this agenda, we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
00:21:13.000I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
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00:25:07.000Played a little more of that clip than I wanted to.
00:25:20.000For some of the older audience that don't know what South Park is, they had a whole episode making fun of Al Gore and his fear-mongering about the man-bear-pig.
00:25:32.000And it's as real as man-made global warming.
00:25:36.000But it's not funny how many third-world people they're going to kill and how many middle-class people and poor people they're going to ruin here in the United States.
00:25:44.000In closing, with Patrick Henningsen, filmmaker, you've already released some YouTube clips of interviews you've done.
00:25:50.000Give us some of the names of those clips for folks that want to go find them.
00:25:53.000You're making a short film about Copenhagen that's going to be out in the next few days.
00:25:59.000And I would guess you haven't been able to videotape the man-bear-pig, the mythical mermaid-type creature that Al Gore's been warning us about?
00:26:07.000We've been looking for him all over Copenhagen, and we've spent most of our time trying to track down the man-bear-pig, but we haven't had any luck.
00:26:14.000What we have discovered, though, is Al Gore is basically captain of a ship.
00:26:20.000And what I can say to real green activists and real environmentalists is that you are on a Titanic, which is captained by Al Gore, and I advise people to get off that ship before you hit the iceberg of truth.
00:26:35.000Because if you do, everybody's going to go down who's on that ship.
00:26:39.000And it's bad for the science, the whole practice of science is under threat.
00:26:44.000Real environment is under threat, along with all the other things that you've mentioned.
00:26:51.000We've got a three-part film that's very educational, which we'll have up on YouTube tonight.
00:26:55.000It'll be at 21stCenturyWireTV on YouTube, and we'll also hopefully have a link at 21stCenturyWire.com.
00:27:03.000And then we're doing a more intensive film over the next week, which we need to spend time to hunker down.
00:27:09.000Give that website out again slowly for people, because you're doing groundbreaking work.
00:27:15.000It's www.21stcenturywire.com and on YouTube just go to 21stCenturyWireTV and you'll see some of the videos and there'll be some coming out, a few more coming out over the next few days.
00:27:31.000But the big news in Copenhagen yesterday was Lisa Jackson from the EPA.
00:27:36.000gave a speech to arouse of applause, basically saying that the EPA, under the Clean Air Act of 2007, will be able to regulate the poisonous gas of carbon dioxide without the approval or without the so say of Congress.
00:27:54.000So it's basically a run around the democratic process, saying that it doesn't matter if Congress and Senate pass the cap and trade bill.
00:28:04.000We're going to regulate greenhouse gases anyway.
00:28:07.000When they say greenhouse gases, they're not talking about really dangerous gases.
00:28:12.000Look, look, look, look, if they were calling for an international agreement that wasn't a global taxation system to private banks that would demand study before they open their plant or release cross-species animals and plants, that's what's already causing rogue viruses and I mean that's what's really dangerous.
00:28:31.000That's what can really mess up Our planet, nanotech, getting loose.
00:28:38.000I mean, that's what the real evidence shows is serious.
00:28:41.000The superconducting supercollider, the megacyclotron, the Hadron Collider.
00:28:46.000Their own scientists admit that that makes hydrogen bombs look like tinker toys and could destroy the planet.
00:28:53.000You know, no control over anything real.
00:28:57.000I mean, there are some real environmental things.
00:29:00.000The global government could care less about that.
00:29:02.000You know, I found out Prince Bernhard, founder of the big environmental group, World Wildlife Fund, the Nazi, and founder of Bilderberg, he openly used his environmental front for elephant hunting and making money off Tusk.
00:30:38.000And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
00:30:40.000Today, it seems like nobody does care.
00:30:42.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.
00:30:48.000Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.
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00:33:27.000Edward Griffin, author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, filmmaker, fighting the globalists for more than 40 years.
00:33:34.000He's here in Austin to give several speeches.
00:33:36.000We'll tell you about that before he leaves us.
00:33:39.000We apologize, we have to get Lord Monckton on with him for about 5-10 minutes.
00:33:43.000It's the only time Lord Monckton can do it.
00:33:45.000He was on with us for a full hour, or more than an hour, just the other day.
00:33:49.000But there has been a new New event where Brown Shirt Youth Corps from the Rockefeller Foundation and of course George Soros funded groups are admittedly with them came and took over his speech today.
00:34:03.000Didn't go like we are change and ask questions in the press conference and then drug out.
00:34:07.000No, they just came and took over and no one can stop them because Lord Moncton doesn't have all the big, you know, oil company security people like Al Gore does.
00:34:15.000Who owns, by the way, Occidental Petroleum and it's one of the biggest people cutting down the rain forest.
00:34:19.000That's how this scam works, so that is coming up here in the next 10 minutes.
00:36:12.000Lord Monckton coming up to pop in in a little while with us.
00:36:15.000The climate gate, and now the leaked Danish text, the actual treaty that the U.S.
00:36:20.000and others wanted to sign, doubles, or right at doubles, the amount of taxes on the third world, and it's meant to destroy their development.
00:36:27.000All these major newspapers like the Financial Post calling for, quote, Chinese style global authority to enforce one child policy.
00:36:35.000Isn't that from your research and give us your take on it, the heart of what this is really all about?
00:36:51.000Your listeners know it so well, Alex, that in order to convince the people of the world that they should give up their freedom and they should accept these draconian measures over their lives, you have to scare them.
00:37:03.000You have to convince them that there's something very terrible going to happen, either terrorism or crime or drugs or overpopulation or whatever it is, a destruction of the planet, so that people will be so grateful when these politicians come along and propose various types of legislation that's going to take away their freedom.
00:37:23.000But they say, don't worry about your freedom, we're going to save your life, we're going to save the planet.
00:37:28.000It's been going on and on for almost a hundred years.
00:37:34.000You know, reading the treaty, which I have here in front of me, the state global government, Van Rompuy, the head of the EU says it's world government, Ban Ki-moon, head of the UN, Secretary General writes editorials saying it's world government, they're announcing that the Copenhagen Global Treaty, A tax on all financial transactions, a 2% tax on the GDP off the top, taxes on all fuel.
00:37:55.000They admit this will devastate the third world and that they actually want to shut down their development, which will actually make them continue to have all these children.
00:38:03.000All the studies show once you're industrialized, you start having less children than you did before and the replacement rate drops to 1.3 children instead of more than two children per group of adults.
00:38:16.000Well, I think the mistake is made when the public gives credence to the motives of what these people are doing.
00:38:23.000They're always saying they're going to control the birth rate in order to decrease the population explosion.
00:38:30.000And supposedly, you know, this is for the benefit of mankind.
00:38:33.000Are they going to control us in this way or that way?
00:38:35.000It's always for the benefit of mankind.
00:38:58.000This is sort of like preaching to the choir here.
00:39:00.000I think that your listeners certainly know that very well.
00:39:05.000But what can I say in addition to that, that we have to really think about the master plan behind all of this.
00:39:12.000And the master plan really has nothing to do with controlling the temperature or climate control or preventing overpopulation or none of that.
00:39:23.000That's just propaganda to make us think that they're good guys and they're really looking out for us.
00:39:27.000Well, the colonial, neo-colonial system of the IMF and World Bank coming in that you talk about so much, loaning our tax money at loan-sharking rates, where Nigeria gets a billion-dollar loan, and today they've paid over 60 billion back on that one billion.
00:39:42.000The IMF and World Bank don't want to help the third world, and they've sold this, oh, global taxes on all carbon to save the third world, and they've told the liberals it's to help the Africans and the Latin Americans, when in truth, it will admittedly starve even more people.
00:40:04.000When will the American people wake up to the fact that these leaders, both national and international, have one thing in mind, and only one thing, and that's control over human beings.
00:40:15.000That's the bottom line, and all this other talk is nonsense.
00:40:19.000Tell us about what you're doing in Austin, and then I want to get into the treaty more, the establishment of world government, how long they've been working at this, and where you think they are in this plan.
00:40:29.000Because it seems that they're trying to accelerate their program because so many people are waking up to them.
00:40:59.000But also it's based on the recognition that we're in a crash economy.
00:41:03.000And people particularly want to know not just about money, but how to protect the money they already have from being confiscated through inflation.
00:41:11.000What kind of investments to make, if any, are good investments.
00:41:14.000And, you know, how to get out of debt and all the various aspects of how to protect yourselves.
00:41:19.000And also we're taking a look at the long-term strategies of how to protect your children and your grandchildren.
00:41:25.000So we're not just focused on the money side of it, but the system side of it.
00:41:29.000We believe very firmly that if you don't preserve the system, it won't make any difference because you won't have any money anyway.
00:41:57.000Go right to realityzone.com, and when they get to the landing page, there'll be a big banner talking about the crash course.
00:42:03.000Right, and we're going to talk about your event you've got coming up tonight in just a moment.
00:42:08.000But we now turn in just a moment to Lord Christopher Monckton, and while he's speaking, we're going to show you some video without the audio.
00:42:19.000Now, the difference is with the Tea Parties and We Are Change, they go to Al Gore events, buy a book, go up and say, Sir, what about Climategate?
00:42:25.000What about you lying about carbon dioxide rising and then temperatures rising when it's actually opposite?
00:42:31.000Sir, what about you making all this money off of this?
00:42:35.000At this event in Copenhagen, Lord Christopher Moncton, one of the chief people exposing the man-made climate fraud, had one of their little events.
00:42:43.000This is David having an event against Goliath.
00:42:48.000We have an article about this at PrisonPlanet.com.
00:42:50.000Brown Shirt Youth Corps invade Moncton's speech.
00:42:54.000And we have the article here with the groups that are funded by Soros and the Rockefellers and others, and by the UN there, taking over, not letting him have a speech.
00:43:05.000And of course, Monckton isn't funded by the powers that be, so he didn't have thugs there to beat everyone up and drag them off.
00:43:11.000So they just took it over, showing how they're a group of jackboots.
00:43:15.000And now we have the National Post calling for a planetary regime for one-child policy.
00:43:21.000They admit cutting off the food will reduce population.
00:43:55.000So the whole thing is being driven by your constitution, which still has enough force in it to stop them getting away with everything thereafter.
00:44:02.000But anyway, I was briefing them on how this was going to be pushed through by Obama.
00:44:06.000He was going to sign it in Copenhagen.
00:44:08.000He was then going to put it before both houses of Congress, try and get it through by a simple majority.
00:44:14.000But as I was beginning to speak, In walked, or rather up jumped, people who'd crept in and sat down quietly initially, and they began a kind of robotic Nazi chant.
00:44:28.000And indeed, the whole air of this Copenhagen conference has the stink of a Nuremberg rally about it, just at the time when we had hoped that in Europe, in the world, that kind of sort of centralist propaganda and only one system of thought being permitted Had been swept away forever.
00:45:42.000And, of course, that's how terrifying it is for all of us who are here to see the robotic drill with which these people simply talk slogans.
00:45:53.000None of them know any climate science.
00:45:58.000All of them have been told that the harmless trace gas without which every piece of life, whether plant or animal, on this planet would be dead, ...is somehow a dangerous pollutant which is going to set the planet on fire.
00:46:11.000It doesn't get more ludicrous or more sickeningly dangerous.
00:46:16.000But, Lord Monckton, there is a sense of desperation by these people as more universities come out and are proven to be engaged in fraud via UN collusion, directing this.
00:46:28.000And I would like you, in the last few minutes we have with you, to speak directly to the useful idiots, the same type that supported Lenin and Hitler and Mao, to understand that the climate cuts now in the treaty, the Danish text, will closely double more cuts in third world than the West has to make and that this will devastate the third world.
00:46:53.000Many of the of the useful liberals believe this was actually a tax on the West to help the third world.
00:46:59.000Clearly, the IMF and World Bank that have been caught engaged in predator or predator activity against the third world have now been caught that There's a man called Herr Ziegler, who is the right-to-food rapporteur for the UN.
00:47:09.000speak directly to not just the same slogans as Nazis, but that this will result in the deaths of more people than the Nazis killed if implemented.
00:47:18.000Let me quote from the UN itself just for once.
00:47:23.000There's a man called Herr Ziegler, who is the right-to-food rapporteur for the UN.
00:47:28.000His job is to make sure that people are aware that there are folks starving around the world.
00:47:33.000And he said two years ago that the biofuel scam was an outrage.
00:47:39.000He said that to grow biofuels instead of growing food on agricultural land for people who need it, you grow biofuels instead for clunkers that don't, in the name of saving the planet.
00:47:51.000What you're doing is causing mass starvation, food riots in a dozen countries of the world, millions dying not because of climate change happening, But because of the sloganising and the policies of these rich people who are manipulating this for their own profit.
00:48:10.000He said, at a time when so many are starving around the world, to divert agricultural land from growing food to growing biofuels is, and this is his words, a crime against humanity.
00:48:43.000Even mainstream news is saying the EPA coup of telling Congress, if you don't ratify this, we will quote, and this is ABC News and Reuters, we will quote, have a command and control system over you.
00:49:03.000What happened was I simply went to the microphones which were directional so that I could still be heard in Pennsylvania and the other parts of the United States, all over the states, thousands of people linked in.
00:49:14.000And the chanters could only be heard very distantly by them in the background.
00:49:18.000And eventually the chanters realized we were just carrying on with the meeting anyway, and they weren't getting anywhere.
00:49:24.000So in dribs and drabs they filed out and quickly, rapidly disappeared, no doubt to report on what they thought was their triumph.
00:49:31.000I saw them again this morning at their stand inside the conference centre in the area where people could set up stands to say whatever they want to say.
00:49:42.000And they came rushing up to me and they said, how dare you call us Hitler Youth?
00:49:46.000Because German television had been there.
00:49:48.000They had interviewed me and I had said, almost with tears in my eyes, these people have behaved like the Hitler Youth.
00:50:01.000If you come in chanting moronic, robotic slogans and interrupt the right of free speech of others who happen to differ with you on a matter of public policy, then I will once again call you Hitler, you, for that is what you are.
00:50:16.000Never has such behaviour been seen in Copenhagen since Hitler was in control of it.
00:50:20.000And if you behave in that way, I will call it like I see it.
00:50:37.000I think it's probably fair to say, of course it's very difficult to measure this, it's probably fair to say that more people have been killed By the Green Movement, with this climate scam and the biofuels taking land out of agricultural production, doubling the price of food, pricing food out of the poor people's pockets.
00:50:54.000They simply can't afford to buy the food.
00:50:56.000They're living on mud pies made with real mud in Haiti, for heaven's sake.
00:51:00.000And even they can't now afford the mud pies either, because they've doubled in price, thanks to the biofuel scare.
00:51:06.000And so, yes, we are now probably seeing more deaths.
00:51:10.000arising from the behavior of the Hitler Youth and, more sinisterly, the people who are behind them and paying for them and indoctrinating them.
00:51:19.000Those are the ones we really need to track down and root out and shove in jail for the rest of their nasty little lives.
00:51:24.000Because we are killing people probably in larger numbers now than Hitler did when he killed the Jews.
00:51:30.000We're killing them of starvation because the West doesn't care about anything except some putative icicle dribbling somewhere in Greenland.
00:51:41.000All of which is entirely within the natural variability of the climate, as we now know from the Climategate emails which expose the fraud that's been perpetrated by these scientists.
00:51:51.000On the one hand, they're telling us only this week that this decade has been the warmest since records began 150 years ago, which admittedly is not particularly a surprising conclusion because we've had 300 years of global warming starting in 1695.
00:52:03.000However, What they are saying privately, whatever they're saying publicly, privately they're saying, there has indeed been, as I've been saying on your program and elsewhere for many years, we've had global cooling for many years.
00:52:15.000In fact, we've now had global cooling for nine full years.
00:52:19.000They're admitting this privately in these emails.
00:52:35.000You've been fooled by your own propaganda.
00:52:37.000Time to go back, get out the abacus and the counting stones, and do your sums again, and throw away those big fancy Xbox 360 models, because they have been leading you astray.
00:52:49.000And get back to real science and real measurement.
00:52:53.000And you will find that the outgoing radiation from the Earth's surface is escaping to space, we've measured this just recently, just as much as it always was, which means that the greenhouse gases we're putting in the atmosphere are having hardly any effect on that outgoing radiation at all, therefore it isn't staying down here to cause warming.
00:53:10.000QED, whatever is causing the warming, it certainly isn't CO2, except to a very, very tiny extent.
00:53:18.000Lord Mocton, you gave us an hour earlier this week.
00:53:22.000We also have G. Edward Griffin here in studio with us.
00:53:25.000But in closing, I'd like you to give us your website.
00:53:27.000And then also, you sounded a bit pessimistic a few days ago.
00:53:32.000Now you sound buoyed, saying that it looks like they're going to have to go the dictatorial, bureaucratic way around the Constitution because it Even mainstream media is saying their fraud is imploding, especially with the Danish text of the treaty saying the Third World has to make right at double the cuts the West did, a bait-and-switch at the last minute.
00:53:57.000And then in closing, please give us your report, a brief synopsis on things brightening a bit.
00:54:06.000Or was I wrong in inferring that from what you said?
00:54:09.000No, that's very good, because the website, first of all, is scienceandpublicpolicy.org, and I'm doing a more or less daily blog from the conference on scienceandpublicpolicy.org, so you can get all the details of what's in this treaty, all the small print.
00:54:25.000It's all in there, because I'm giving quite detailed results on that.
00:54:28.000The reason why I think I remain Hopeful, apart from, you know, my religion which teaches us that we should always hope even in the darkest hour.
00:54:37.000But also I think it is very clear from the shrill hysteria of the propaganda here that these people know, the ones who are peddling this here in Copenhagen, they know this is the last chance saloon, not for that planet which was saved 2,000 years ago and doesn't need to be saved again, but for them.
00:54:57.000They know that if they can't get what they want, Copenhagen.
00:55:01.000They will never get it again because the investigations into the ClimateGate emails are going to lead to criminal prosecutions, not only for destroying data which have been validly requested by other scientists to check all these bogus results, but also because these results, in fact several but also because these results, in fact several of them, amounted to scientific and financial fraud.
00:55:24.000And I've had two professors on to me, one from America, one from Canada, just in the last few days, saying they want me to put them in touch with the right policemen in the United Kingdom, and in fact he's a police superintendent in East Anglia Constabulary, so that they can report and in fact he's a police superintendent in East Anglia Constabulary, so that they can report how they were maneuvered, manipulated, had their papers tampered with, delayed publication, prevented publication,
00:55:51.000They had papers that should have been in the IPCC's reports suppressed so they weren't considered.
00:55:56.000All of these games were going on and all of these in furtherance of what is now quite clearly the largest and worst financial fraud the world has ever seen.
00:56:06.000So if they don't get what they want at Copenhagen, They know they'll never get it later because the fraud prosecutions and investigations will have started.
00:56:14.000If they do get what they want at Copenhagen, they won't be able to make it stick.
00:56:19.000Too many people now have cottoned on to the fraud.
00:56:22.000Too many people, ordinary people that is, people who are not in the governing class, the little guy rather than the big guy, the little guy has now woken up.
00:56:30.000And if the little guy stands together with the other little guys and just says, boo, the big guys will run a mile.
00:56:36.000Lord Christopher Monckton, then it's safe to say, with your astute political analysis of this, you've been at the heart of fighting this for more than two decades, that the heart of world government, as Ban Ki-moon and Van Rompuy and all of them have said, their global carbon tax dictatorship is hemorrhaging to death, and are you saying all the king's horses, all the king's men, if we the patriots for liberty continue to expose them, that all the king's horses, all the king's men can't put the lying fraud Al Gore back together?
00:57:08.000That's right, I think Humpty Dumpty Gore is now in pieces on the floor, dribbling untidily.
00:57:14.000The fact that he has had to lie even about the date of the Climategate emails, where he's trying to say that they were all at least 10 years old, when most of them weren't even, well I say some of them weren't even 10 days old.
00:57:26.000Clearly, there is desperation there now.
00:57:29.000The fact that this serial liar is lying yet again, and this time about the Climategate emails, shows how utterly incredible and useless a figure he has now become.
00:57:40.000It's time for him to send back his Nobel Peace Prize.
00:57:44.000It's time for Obama to send back his Nobel Peace Prize.
00:57:48.000Because the people who should have won it, let's take Irene Sanchez.
00:57:52.000Who was nominated for it the same year as Al Gore.
00:57:55.000You know what she did when she was a kid?
00:57:57.000She taught herself plumbing so that she could go into the German ghetto with her huge toolbox of plumbing tools and into the Warsaw ghetto where the Jews were.
00:58:07.000And she would then take one Jewish child every day in the bottom, in the hidden false bottom, in her bag and she got the murder.
00:58:16.000She saved hundreds of little Jewish children's lives.
00:58:18.000That's what the peace price should have been given.
00:58:21.000Well, we're trying to save the millions of Africans.
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01:00:00.000Well, we just did 15 minutes with Ward Christopher Monkton, and I appreciate J. Edward Griffin happily letting him cut into his time.
01:00:12.000J. Edward Griffin will be on this other 40 minutes.
01:00:17.000Then we have another guest from Copenhagen, Denmark.
01:00:20.000Joining us, Tom Harris, engineer, executive director of the International Climate Science Coalition, a massive scientific group set up to counter the lies of the UN and the IPCC.
01:00:29.000But, T-minus 40 minutes with Jim McGriffin.
01:00:32.000Very exciting to hear from Lord Monckton about the victories we're having against the globalists.
01:00:36.000And now, new world orders admitted everywhere.
01:01:25.000And that's just kind of a preview to the seminar on Saturday.
01:01:28.000Also, I'll be answering a lot of questions.
01:01:31.000Hope I'll be answering the questions anyway.
01:01:32.000I'll be getting a lot of them, I know.
01:01:34.000My intent is to do an update on The Creature from Jekyll Island, which is the title of the book on the Federal Reserve System, and put it into focus in terms of what's happening today in the economy.
01:01:45.000People want to know, you know, how did the Federal Reserve do this?
01:02:11.000It is not too late, folks, to get into that.
01:02:14.000Right, we expect a good crowd, so the earlier the reservation is made, the better off it'll be.
01:02:19.000Yeah, and you're powerful on the stage, and you're powerful in person, too, on my second time having you in studio, but you're really powerful up there giving a speech.
01:02:27.000I enjoy doing it, and I have a message that I feel very passionate about, so I guess I just worry about the message and forget about the speech.
01:02:35.000You know, every time you're on, I get all these emails from women who just love your voice.
01:02:57.000It looks like it's going to pass the House.
01:02:59.000The Senate may block it, but that's putting off the inevitable.
01:03:02.000People have finally gone past the left and right, the two parties, to the real power structure, the bankers, that you've been fighting for 40 years.
01:03:15.000I support that, of course, but I have some misgivings, which I'll mention for a moment and then come back to my support statement.
01:03:23.000When I wrote the book, it was published in 1994, I had a little paragraph or two about the Audit the Fed bill, which in those days was routinely sponsored by Congressman Gonzalez.
01:03:33.000And I commented then, I said, you know, we don't need to audit the Fed.
01:03:36.000What we need to do is abolish the Fed.
01:03:39.000And I complained then, I predicted then, that if we ever had a serious move to audit the Fed, that it probably would be an instrument by which politicians would make a big grandstand.
01:03:50.000They would say, we're going to do something about this Federal Reserve.
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01:08:33.000Later we'll play a clip of that and we can find it on YouTube or elsewhere.
01:08:38.000But getting into the positive part about auditing the Fed.
01:08:42.000Yeah, I think it's a very positive thing, because for the first time, people are hearing about the Federal Reserve, and they're hearing about it in a way that causes them to think that maybe something's wrong.
01:08:52.000You know, most people have never given a thought to this institution, and then when they do think about it, they think it's a great government agency of some kind.
01:09:00.000So, now they're hearing, audit the Fed.
01:09:03.000Why does someone want to audit the Fed?
01:09:05.000So, the reason I support it is because it's Causing millions of Americans to realize that there's something fishy with the Federal Reserve System, and that's a big step forward.
01:09:14.000I want to get back into the Federal Reserve, but obviously the big issue is the public announcement of world government, the public announcement that it is to be funded by taxes on everything, a UN Directorate over energy taxation, 2% tax off the top of all countries' GDP, a police grid over all air traffic, taxes on that, taxes on food, taxes on fuel.
01:09:36.000Why do you think they're moving, throwing everything at us at once?
01:09:49.000I think that the reason they're throwing everything at us at once now is because we're coming very close to the finish line.
01:09:56.000I mean, there's much more to do, and they're just trying to tie it all up as quickly as possible, certainly within the next ten years, I would say.
01:10:03.000So, it's come time to button everything down, and you can't kid about it anymore when you're, you know, trying to tie everything down.
01:10:10.000You have to call it exactly what it is.
01:10:13.000I don't know if they're accelerating their program, or whether it's just like a natural phenomenon when a candle burns brightly, it means it's about ready to burn out, you know?
01:10:22.000So I think it's accelerated, but whether they planned it to be that way or not, I wouldn't have any way of knowing.
01:10:31.000But why would they go from admitting that they're doing, I mean denying what they were doing, to admitting what they're doing?
01:10:40.000I mean, doesn't that hurt them to say, there's no world government, there's no carbon tax plan, just two, three years ago, to, yeah, there's a world government, it's going to save Africans by cutting off their power.
01:10:49.000Well, I think the answer to that, Alex, is that if they had said, yes, we're building world government, they'd said that three, four, five years ago, people would have been shocked.
01:11:13.000So see how fortunate you are that we've got this masterful plan to save you?
01:11:17.000So I think now they're talking about world government because finally they can present it as a so-called solution to all of the problems that are infecting the planet.
01:11:27.000And in the Copenhagen Climate Summit, in disarray after Danish tech's leak of the official treaty that they want to get people to sign, they didn't mean to bring this out until the last few days.
01:11:38.000Get the third world all thinking they were going to get to loot the West, because they're playing groups off against each other, and now they find out, oh, the IMF and World Bank will have all the power, not the UN, and this tax money will be doled out to you if you reduce your population and set up a global one-child policy.
01:12:03.000And so the IMF, World Bank, these are arms of the same private central banking system that we live under.
01:12:09.000That's right, that has always been the source of the ultimate power.
01:12:13.000Certainly here in the United States, people are beginning finally to understand that the power is with the banks, not with the government.
01:12:19.000That the government supposedly was to control the banks, but we can see in the recent events in Washington when all of this money is created out of nothing.
01:12:27.000And it goes to the banks and the congressmen dutifully vote for it without even understanding what the bills are.
01:12:37.000I think anybody can see now that it's the banks that are running the show and not the government.
01:12:42.000So, there will be no difference at the international level.
01:12:45.000It is coming out in the open that the IMF and the World Bank will be the center of authority and power.
01:12:50.000But the banks want to create a new global government structure because there's no Bill of Rights, there's no Constitution, there's no Declaration of Independence.
01:12:58.000It's just pure, even the Guardian admits, secret world government run by private corporate interests.
01:13:03.000It actually says that in the text and now the London Guardian Is talking like, gee, Edward Griffin, this is incredible.
01:13:22.000The United Nations Unanimous Declaration on Human Rights, 30 points, but in 29 and 30, all the rights given are privileges the UN can revoke.
01:13:31.000Yes, and you don't have to wait until you get to the 29th and the 30th one.
01:13:34.000Every one of them along the way says, for example, everyone has the right to freedom of speech, except as may be provided for by law.
01:13:44.000Everyone has the right to employment, or the right to travel.
01:13:48.000Everyone has the right to freedom of religion.
01:13:50.000Everyone has all these rights, but in every condition, in every provision, they say except As may be provided for by law, which means you've got these rights until they pass a law and take them away from you, which means you never had them in the first place.
01:14:07.000On the subject of the private Federal Reserve, the holding company, the private banks that own and control it, they have stolen trillions of dollars.
01:14:25.000I'm taking a moment to think about it because I don't think the mechanisms are in place right now for the will of the people to have much effect.
01:14:34.000The government of the United States is firmly in the hands of collectivists who are beholden to this financial global power.
01:14:43.000And they care what the American voters think, but not as much as you might suspect that they do.
01:14:50.000They don't care so much about people who write them letters as they do about people who write them checks.
01:14:56.000And so I think when the public becomes upset by this and starts to demand change, as they're now doing, the politicians are maneuvering and thinking not in terms of how we're going to bring about the change, but how we continue doing exactly what we have been doing and to shut the public out of the debate and to just proceed in spite of the public opposition and concern.
01:15:18.000So to answer your question, I see an increasing pressure for genuine rebellion.
01:15:25.000In this country, which scares the dickens out of me because I don't think that would be a good thing.
01:15:30.000And we've seen the elite preparing for that.
01:15:32.000Preparing for it and I think hoping for it.
01:15:35.000Because they know that if there is widespread civil violence, that will be the excuse they really want in order to clamp down with martial law.
01:15:43.000That's why they've got Northcom in place.
01:15:48.000But you asked me the question, where do I think it's going?
01:15:50.000I think that's probably where it's going to go.
01:15:53.000And I hope we can reach enough people soon enough to prevent that from happening.
01:15:58.000Obviously educating people is a big part of the solution and we're doing that.
01:16:02.000But at the same time, as you've said, running for city council, county commissioner, school board, we need to start getting into the power structure at the grassroots and start moving into the federal government as well.
01:16:13.000The globalists have the long view, that's why they've been successful.
01:16:21.000That is the mantra that I have been preaching for so many years.
01:16:25.000Most Americans have a very short attention span and they have a very short view of the future.
01:16:32.000And even those who are greatly concerned about what's happening in America today want a solution that they think will happen within the next election.
01:16:44.000And if we can't do it in the next election, they're not interested.
01:16:47.000Well, I'm here to say it's not going to happen in the next election, or probably not even the one after that.
01:16:51.000Because they give us a Bush, they give us an Obama, same policies, different rhetoric, and just the rope-a-dope continues.
01:16:57.000As long as we're committed to this scam between the Republican and the Democrat party, Which appears to be offering people a choice, when in fact it's not.
01:17:09.000As long as people buy into that Republican-Democrat nonsense, there is no hope of changing the system.
01:17:16.000So, that's where education comes in, and it's also where the Freedom Force strategy comes in, where we want people who are aware of this to go into government, to try and become influential in their own government.
01:17:28.000Instead of just standing on the outside of the halls of power, looking in, And writing letters of complaint and petition.
01:17:34.000We want them to organize and to run for office.
01:17:37.000And then even if they're in low positions, they will gather support by the grassroots, be propelled into higher positions, they can leak documents, they can whistleblow, they can bully pulpit, they can sabotage globalist operations.
01:18:27.000We think that this can be turned around, but not by the next election.
01:18:31.000So it's a kind of a pessimistic view and an optimistic view at the same time.
01:18:35.000It's pessimistic in the sense that we'd all like to see a return to normalcy and prosperity and safety and all of that.
01:18:41.000We'd like to see that happen real fast, but it's not going to happen real fast.
01:18:46.000But the optimistic point is that if we lay the foundation today If we get people to understand the basic principles of freedom, and if we get them organized and networked together so they can go into the power centers of society, including the political parties, but also the church organizations, the schools... That's what FEMA's doing.
01:19:04.000They're doing what we should be doing, quietly taking over.
01:19:08.000The UN document came out last week, where over a decade ago they took over the public schools locally, brainwashing the kids.
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01:21:12.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
01:21:19.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
01:21:24.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
01:21:42.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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01:24:27.000And then we've got a guest joining us from Copenhagen in the last 20 minutes of this transmission.
01:24:35.000G. Edward Griffin is in studio with us.
01:24:37.000He's going to be speaking at Brave New Books tonight in Austin, Texas at 7 p.m., and then at the Courtyard Austin Downtown Convention Center, 300 East 4th Street.
01:24:57.000because you don't need to go through the registration.
01:25:00.000You can come at 8.30 for coffee and pastries or get there at 9.30 as Mr. Griffin starts his presentation at 9.45.
01:25:05.000Don't want to miss that Saturday in Austin, Texas.
01:25:09.000Okay, we're getting a long view of history.
01:25:11.000I think these victories against the Federal Reserve, though, exposing them, their polling numbers going down to less than 20%, the environmentalists being unmasked as private corporate takeover artists, all of this is showing the people, though, that we can have victory.
01:25:28.000You know, being a public figure, I get off airplanes in Latin America, Canada, towns all over the U.S., and literally, cars stop as I walk down the street.
01:26:08.000I remember when I was a lot younger, I was in a bigger hurry than I am now.
01:26:13.000But it's comforting to know that You and I are putting in place principles and organizational structures and strategies that cannot be stamped out.
01:26:24.000I don't care how strong the engines of tyranny are.
01:26:28.000They cannot overpower the force of the knowledge and the principles that we're building right now.
01:26:34.000And that is going to build through the next generation and I think the following generation after that.
01:26:41.000Sounds like a far distance down the road, but it's not that far.
01:26:45.000I think we're going to see this whole thing turn around within that length of period.
01:26:50.000I can go to bed at night and really sleep well thinking that I have a partner.
01:26:53.000But they are racing to put the technocracy in place, but that we told the truth, had a testament of who the bad guys were, and what liberty could be, those seeds Billions of them have been planted.
01:28:19.000Yeah, we know that they're doing that.
01:28:20.000That's a favored strategy, and we've seen it all throughout history.
01:28:26.000I know a little bit about the Federal Reserve System and the first time I came across that strategy in the economic field was in the evolution and the origin of the Federal Reserve.
01:28:35.000The very people that conceived the Federal Reserve, then having got it proposed and an actual bill going before Congress, then they started to lead the opposition against it.
01:28:46.000In such a way that it was bound to fail.
01:29:05.000Yeah, they said, uh, this Federal Reserve bill is not good for business, it's not good for America, but they did this as bankers.
01:29:12.000And they knew that when that story got into the news, people would say, hey, Maude, look at this, these big bankers don't like this Federal Reserve system very much, must be a good bill.
01:29:22.000You know, they knew that that would be the reaction of the average person.
01:29:26.000So they're clever, they're smart, they didn't get to be in the positions of power that they are by being stupid.
01:29:31.000But we, on the other hand, can't be stupid either.
01:29:33.000We must understand that people do that.
01:29:36.000They do, uh, provide false leadership.
01:29:39.000They do present, uh, false, uh, images out there, just deliberately to trick the, uh, the mind of the average... Absolutely.
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01:33:38.000But, G. Edward, in the last six, seven minutes we have with you, I want to give you the floor.
01:33:42.000We were talking during the break, you said it is really coming to a head.
01:33:45.000And I agree with the long view of history, they're not going to give up overnight, but I've given the analogy of Climategate being the Death Star plans getting out, and now with their whole program in disarray, the Death Star's blown up.
01:33:57.000But they're still Imperial Star Destroyers, the Empire's still occupying all our systems, they're still in all our nations, but it's shown the rebellion that if we can blow up one of their biggest operations in the Info War, we can destroy these people, we can defeat them with the truth.
01:34:14.000That's so true, and what can I add to that except that the thought that's always on my mind is it's relatively easy for people to know what they don't want.
01:34:56.000Congress controlling our currency, cutting down the size of government, getting state sovereignty, getting rid of the government-run public schools, not making the superheroes be sports people or actors but being inventors again, getting back to a renaissance society.
01:35:12.000Exactly, and also even deeper than that.
01:35:15.000We could go and talk about political principles.
01:35:17.000What is the proper function of the state?
01:35:21.000Where did our system go wrong, or did it go wrong?
01:35:23.000These are the things that I want to hear more in the debate, and I recognize you have to mobilize people on the flashpoint, the anger point.
01:35:30.000You know, this is what they don't like, but the reason I created Freedom Force, as you so well know, is because I wanted people to think about the political and ideological principles The things that we should be building into the system after we recapture control of it and we have a chance to create a better system, what will it be?
01:36:10.000Yes, and what I want to see is for people to recognize that this is the same animal, whether it is in Nazi Germany or Red China, even today, or in Cuba, or if it's growing in the United States.
01:36:32.000Because once you understand the principles of collectivism, you will not tolerate its growth, even in your own country.
01:36:39.000Yes, I'm very optimistic about this rising tide of resistance to the growing tyranny, but now I think it's time for us to really focus on having people recognize on the positive things we want to replace it with.
01:36:53.000And Freedom Force International does that.
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01:37:56.000Alright, ladies and gentlemen, I am extremely Honored here today to have engineer Tom Harris, executive director of the International Climate Science Coalition, a massive scientific group set up to counter the IPCC science fraud.
01:38:14.000It's been proven to be a premeditated fraud.
01:38:16.000We don't just have the Climategate documents, we have the UN documents last week where they've been organizing the fraud together.
01:38:22.000And he is in Copenhagen right now putting on their own conference.
01:38:25.000The website is CopenhagenClimateChange.org or ClimateScienceInternational.org.
01:38:33.000And for the last 22 minutes of this radio transmission from Copenhagen, Tom Harris joins us.
01:38:40.000Tom, thank you for spending time today.
01:38:46.000In a nutshell, tell us about your group, your take on ClimateGate, the text of the Danish text of the treaty where the third world will actually have to make more cuts than the West, devastating them.
01:38:57.000Lord Monckton talked about the millions that will kill a year.
01:39:00.000Just look what the ethanol scam has done.
01:39:02.000And where do you think this conference is going in light of all this evidence of fraud coming out?
01:39:11.000Yeah, well, to start out with, the International Climate Science Coalition is the non-profit group of scientists who were not able to get into most of the UN activities.
01:39:20.000Some of them actually were, but they disagreed with the UN.
01:39:23.000We have with us about 60 scientists who are our advisors, and it was decided that we should actually ask the UN for some basic data.
01:39:32.000Because, you know, one of the main concerns after ClimateGate was, if the temperature data is corrupted, how much else is?
01:39:38.000And you know, we hear about extreme weather events increasing and all that sort of thing, but many of these scientists are actually experts in that field and they know that the extreme weather records were set in the 1800s and early 1900s when it comes to typhoons and hurricanes and things like that.
01:39:52.000So instead of actually making the point to the UN that they're wrong, we thought, well look, if they're not sharing data on temperature, why can't we get them to share data on everything else?
01:40:03.000So we sent an open letter to the Secretary General of the United Nations.
01:40:06.000And it's interesting, the project actually started about a month ago before the CRU scandal, you know, the climate gate.
01:40:14.000And at that time, you know, we were getting signature a day or something like that.
01:40:17.000But after the scandal in England, we've been swamped with signatures.
01:40:22.000We've been getting hundreds of signatures of leading scientists from around the world who are now saying, well, if that data was wrong and manipulated, we want to steal all the data.
01:40:31.000So I went through the list and, you know, some of them are leading experts, but they're Not necessarily climate experts, so I pulled out 150 of them, who actually are climate experts from 17 different countries, who are now demanding that the data be released in a whole range of fields.
01:40:47.000And it's going to be very interesting to see what the UN do, because in some cases, like their polar bear scare, the data shows that the population has more than doubled since 1960, and that they've been around for about 70,000 years, during which time it was hotter than they're forecasting for the 21st century.
01:41:04.000So it's going to be tough for the UN to answer our challenge.
01:41:09.000I'm sure you've been following that in New Zealand and Australia and Canada, NOAA, NASA, other universities are being caught fixing the data along with the IPCC, that the UN had this strategy, that people were already trying to get Oh yeah, exactly.
01:41:25.000Climate Research Center data because they were already being caught in fraud by the research.
01:41:31.000But now we know that it's premeditated.
01:41:33.000And so this is just the tip of the iceberg is more whistleblowers come out, more scientists that were persecuted.
01:41:39.000I mean, I think it's safe to say that the beginning of the end of the charlatans has begun.
01:41:46.000Do you agree that they're starting to really bleed out?
01:41:50.000And I think that if they do start to respond to our challenge, you know, in a way it would be good because from our point of view, it would be good because then we can find more of these flaws.
01:42:01.000But the fact that the UN probably won't respond to our challenge is actually an admission of guilt.
01:42:06.000Because if you think about it, this data was collected with public money.
01:42:10.000It shouldn't have been 17 years of trying to get the data before a whistleblower, who is probably the cause of this, not a leaker, not a hacker.
01:42:20.000It shouldn't have taken 17 years to get the basic data that was Well, I mean, you talk about polar bears.
01:42:25.000policy and so I think that climate gate has been a great Christmas Christmas gift to us because it's shown an example of what they've suspected for years and that is that when you look at the real data much of the climate scare is just simply not there well I mean you talk about polar bears I have seen on television they're teaching children that penguins are drowning when it's an aquatic bird that can barely walk and can't fly because it's meant to swim but
01:42:53.000Polar bears, the greatest land-swimming animal, routinely swim over 100 miles, have been recorded to swim over 300.
01:43:01.000But just two weeks ago, Austin News said the polar bears are all dying, they're drowning.
01:43:07.000They showed video of them floating on ice packs, where they're out killing seals in Beluga.
01:43:12.000The fraud of the hockey stick, the fraud of carbon dioxide, simultaneously with temperature rise when it comes, as you know, hundreds of years after.
01:43:20.000I mean, everything these people say, the oceans will turn into acid, acid rain.
01:43:25.000In the 70s, Holdren said we had to put out giant terraforming factories to double CO2 or we'd be in an ice age by 2000.
01:43:33.000I mean, the level of fraudulent quackery is just, this is clearly the greatest scientific fraud in history.
01:43:41.000Can you comment on that and then what you're witnessing in Copenhagen?
01:43:46.000I mean, obviously, there were big scientific frauds in history, like thinking the Earth was flat, and that six-sevenths of the Earth was covered with land.
01:43:53.000There were lots of frauds, but I don't think any of them have cost the world as much as this one.
01:43:58.000I mean, this one, they're talking about literally trillions of dollars.
01:44:01.000You know, if OECD countries followed Kyoto, the cost that's estimated would be about a trillion dollars a year.
01:44:08.000And that would mean that for one year's of Kyoto expenditure, they could actually fix the freshwater drinking problem in Africa virtually forever.
01:44:16.000And right now, there's about 5 million people a year, mostly children, who die in Africa due to bad drinking water.
01:44:22.000And that problem could be solved with one year's expenditure on Kyoto.
01:44:26.000So independent of, you know, your politics, one of the points we're trying to make is that this is just a bad use of money.
01:44:35.000Not just for right-wing or center, but we're also trying to attract left-wingers, which we're slowly doing, because, you know, left, right or center, nobody wants to throw a trillion dollars a year down the drain, although sometimes I wonder.
01:44:46.000But regardless, we're finding that one of the reasons we haven't been winning up to this point is because we only are attracting our traditional allies.
01:44:55.000You know, people like yourself and others who think about the issues, but also people who generally tend to be a bit right of center.
01:45:01.000But if we're going to win this debate, we have to get a lot more people on our side.
01:45:06.000We have to make allies with people ordinarily.
01:45:08.000Well, sir, I agree, but I mean, the way to reach out to the left, and I'm past the left-right paradigm.
01:45:13.000and just a realist, is conservatively we're talking about millions and millions of people dying a year of a fraction of these carbon cuts are made.
01:45:24.000And now we learn in the draft treaty that third world has to make close to double the cuts of the first world.
01:45:30.000I mean, even if the left, you just believe this would be a big money grab to help the third world.
01:45:37.000It's an insider trading carbon derivative system developed by Ken Lay.
01:45:45.000I mean, this is just a giant carnival scam.
01:45:48.000One of the things that people forget is that there's a lot of investment firms who have invested billions of dollars.
01:45:54.000I won't mention the names because I don't want to get sued, but the bottom line is, I said to one of the carbon brokers the other day, I said, Such and such a company has bought a billion dollars worth of carbon credits.
01:46:27.000That's actually being funded in part by Swiss Re, which are one of the world's largest insurance companies.
01:46:32.000And you have to say, well, why would they fund a climate scare video?
01:46:36.000Well, of course, the answer is obvious.
01:46:37.000If people think that there's massive climate problems coming, they're going to buy more insurance, they can raise the premiums.
01:46:43.000And so what you're seeing is an enormous vested interest in actually keeping the scare alive.
01:46:48.000And that's a scary thing, because how long can the scare continue if the data is wrong?
01:46:53.000Well, it might continue for quite a long time if there's enough people funding it.
01:46:57.000And that's basically what it comes down to, I think, is that there is billions to be made, even, you know, as some people say, hundreds of billions, if in fact the scare continues.
01:47:06.000So if scientists laugh, you know, at the conference that we organized, or helped organize, they said, how long does it have to cool before politicians stop calling it global warming?
01:47:16.000Well, actually, it might cool for a long time, and that's what many of the scientists are saying.
01:47:20.000But the scare may continue anyways, because there's so much money behind it.
01:48:07.000Clouds are a hundred times more influential on climate than humans, all human activity combined.
01:48:12.000And yet, it was only 10 years ago that we thought the net impact of clouds was to contribute to global warming because, of course, it's water vapor and that's a greenhouse gas.
01:48:22.000But recently, they've found that, in fact, clouds are a net cooling agent because they reflect more of the sunlight into space than they actually trap in the atmosphere.
01:48:30.000So, not only have they changed the magnitude of the cloud impact, which, as I say, is far more than humans, but they've even changed the sign.
01:48:38.000So, the whole concept that the science is settled You know, as to what the other cause might be, it's probably not CO2, whether it's the sun, whether it's ocean currents, whether it's land use change, whether, as you say, it's cosmic rays from space.
01:48:51.000I mean, the bottom line is we're in an era of negative discovery, where the more we learn, the more we realize that we just don't understand.
01:49:00.000We're a giant planet hurtling through deep space orbiting a gigantic sun.
01:49:04.000I mean, and they're saying that humans exhaling five and a half pounds or flatulence from bovine that have always been on the planet are deadly.
01:49:24.000You know, the Conservative Party in Canada, for example, before they came into power, they said they were going to get to the bottom of the climate change Kyoto scare.
01:49:32.000Once they got into power, their spin doctors clearly told them they could get more votes if they just changed their tune and said the same thing as Al Gore.
01:49:40.000And so that's what they've done, and I'm really ashamed as a Canadian to have our government saying things they know very well are completely wrong.
01:49:47.000We find that it's strange, but with the Liberal government before our current Conservative government, they would allow the occasional climate skeptic to come into committee hearings to testify.
01:49:57.000But ever since this supposedly conservative government has come in, they've actually closed the door totally.
01:50:03.000Oh yeah, look at Newt Gingrich, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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01:52:00.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
01:52:04.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
01:52:08.000As we're finishing off this agenda, They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
01:52:13.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
01:52:19.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
01:52:24.000Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
01:54:18.000We may still have time, we might still get by.
01:54:23.000Every time I think about it, I want to cry.
01:54:27.000The phones and the data that the kids give me.
01:54:30.000Tom Harris, Executive Director of the International Climate Science Coalition, a massive scientific group set up to counter the IPCC.
01:54:37.000We've only got about five minutes left right now, sir, and so I'd like to talk about what you're witnessing, what the mood is there, how Climategate is affecting the different 191 countries there, how the Danish text, doubling the cuts for the third world, resulting in just genocidal starvation, what the mood is there right now.
01:55:00.000Well, I think you have to realize, first of all, that both India and China have stated off and on throughout the whole year that they have no intention of restricting their economic growth to cut carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases.
01:55:11.000So I think the chances that they would have agreed to even a more benign treaty on their part were pretty slim to begin with.
01:55:17.000And also in India, we're starting to see the growth of a lot of climate skepticism.
01:55:21.000You know, many of the Indian glaciologists, for example, are completely rebutting the UN on Himalayan glaciers.
01:55:28.000So in India, I had an interview today actually with an Indian journalist.
01:55:31.000We're seeing the rise of climate skepticism like you've never seen it before.
01:55:35.000And I think that what's going to happen is that with these increased demands on the third world, they're just going to turn the whole thing down flatly.
01:55:43.000And this, you know, it's interesting because in the United States, I understand that Even the Democrats are saying that without agreement from China and India, they're just simply not going to go ahead.
01:56:13.000The trouble is, of course, What do you do with all those cheap imports that are coming from countries that are fed to heck with greenhouse gas controls?
01:56:21.000I mean, it's just a death sentence for the American economy.
01:56:38.000You only put carbon controls on the West, it moves to China, India, Mexico, where they have no controls.
01:56:44.000Overall, the devil gas, the man-bear-pig gas, that's a South Park episode if you don't know, sir, increases, increases, then we're all dead!
01:56:56.000Well, one of the craziest things is China passed the United States in net carbon dioxide emissions in 2007.
01:57:02.000And even without these kinds of international agreements, even if they just allowed them to continue to grow, they're going to be double the United States within about 20 years.
01:57:11.000So in fact, if you don't get them on side, the CO2 emissions for the world are going to virtually stay unchanged.
01:57:17.000I mean, they're going to continue to rise, I should say.
01:57:20.000But, you know, one of the important things to realize is that throughout the world, there's countries who are now starting behind closed doors.
01:57:26.000Saudi Arabia did it actually in the UN meeting.
01:57:29.000They're starting to look at the ClimateGate data and they're starting to say, this is actually a social engineering project more than it is environmental.
01:57:38.000And we've heard within the Canadian government people telling me, look, it has nothing to do with environment anymore.
01:57:46.000Let me just... I want to mail you a copy of my film, Endgame.
01:57:49.000Sir, they admit at the UN this is eugenics.
01:57:53.000They want to cut... Maury Strong, the head guy, says it's to destroy industrial society.
01:57:59.000And we need to... I'm sorry, go ahead.
01:58:01.000Yeah, Kyoto is the flagship of the world governance program.
01:58:06.000I mean, you can see that very clearly.
01:58:07.000If you control the world's CO2, you're controlling most of the world's energy.
01:58:12.000And if you're controlling the world's energy, just as Russia demonstrated when they turned off the taps on the national natural gas supply to Europe, you basically control whoever is at the other end of the tap.
01:58:21.000All right, reporting to us from Copenhagen, Tom Harris, climatescienceinternational.org.