In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with J.E.R. Griffin and discuss his new book, "The Creature from Jekyll Island" and his support for an audit of the Federal Reserve. I also talk with Tom Harris, Executive Director of the International Climate Science Coalition, a massive scientific group set up to counter the lies of the UN and the IPCC.
00:00:00.000Well, we just did 15 minutes before Christopher Monkton, and I appreciate J.
00:00:11.000Ever Griffin happily letting him cut into his time.
00:00:13.000J. Everett Griffin will be with us another 40 minutes.
00:00:18.000Then we have another guest from Copenhagen, Denmark, joining us.
00:00:21.000Tom Harris, engineer, executive director of the International Climate Science Coalition, a massive scientific group set up to counter the lies of the UN and the IPCC.
00:00:30.000But, T-minus 40 minutes with Jebber Griffin.
00:00:33.000Very exciting to hear from Laura Monckton about the victories we're having against the globalists.
00:00:37.000And now, new world orders admitted everywhere.
00:01:20.000But quickly before we get into meat and potatoes, you also have an event at Brave New Books tonight, right?
00:01:25.000Yes, and that's just kind of a preview to the seminar on Saturday.
00:01:29.000Also, I'll be answering a lot of questions.
00:01:32.000I hope I'll be answering the questions anyway.
00:01:33.000I'll be getting a lot of them, I know.
00:01:35.000My intent is to do an update on the creature from Jekyll Island, which is the title of the book on the Federal Reserve System, and put it into focus in terms of what's happening today in the economy.
00:01:46.000People want to know, you know, how did the Federal Reserve do this?
00:02:12.000It is not too late, folks, to get into that.
00:02:15.000Right, we expect a good crowd, so the earlier the reservation is made, the better off it'll be.
00:02:20.000Yeah, and you're powerful on the stage, and you're powerful in person, too, on my second time having you in studio, but you're really powerful up there giving a speech.
00:02:28.000I enjoy doing it, and I have a message that I feel very passionate about, so I guess I just worry about the message and forget about the speech.
00:02:36.000You know, every time you're on, I get all these emails from women who just love your voice.
00:02:58.000It looks like it's going to pass the House.
00:03:00.000The Senate may block it, but that's putting off the inevitable.
00:03:03.000People have finally gone past the left and right, the two parties, to the real power structure, the bankers, that you've been fighting for 40 years.
00:03:16.000I support that, of course, but I have some misgivings, which I'll mention for a moment, and then come back to my support statement.
00:03:24.000When I wrote the book, it was published in 1994, I had a little paragraph or two about the audit the Fed bill, which in those days was routinely sponsored by Congressman Gonzalez.
00:03:34.000And I commented, then I said, you know, we don't need to audit the Fed.
00:03:38.000What we need to do is abolish the Fed.
00:03:40.000And I complained then, I predicted then, that if we ever had a serious move to audit the Fed, that it probably would be an instrument by which politicians would make a big grandstand.
00:03:51.000They would say, we're going to do something about this Federal Reserve.
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00:08:33.000Later we'll play a clip of that and we can find it on YouTube or elsewhere.
00:08:39.000But getting into the positive part about auditing the Fed.
00:08:43.000Yeah, I think it's a very positive thing, because for the first time, people are hearing about the Federal Reserve, and they're hearing about it in a way that causes them to think that maybe something's wrong.
00:08:53.000You know, most people have never given a thought to this institution, and when they do think about it, they think it's a great government agency of some kind.
00:09:01.000So, now they're hearing, audit the Fed.
00:09:03.000Why does someone want to audit the Fed?
00:09:05.000So, the reason I support it is because it's Causing millions of Americans to realize that there's something fishy with the Federal Reserve System, and that's a big step forward.
00:09:15.000I want to get back into the Federal Reserve, but obviously the big issue is the public announcement of world government, the public announcement that it is to be funded by taxes on everything, a UN Directorate over energy taxation, 2% tax off the top of all countries' GDP, a police grid over all air traffic, taxes on that, taxes on food, taxes on fuel.
00:09:37.000Why do you think they're moving, throwing everything at us at once, A, and B, Well, two questions.
00:09:49.000I think that the reason they're throwing everything at us at once now is because we're coming very close to the finish line.
00:09:56.000I mean, there isn't much more to do, and they're just trying to tie it all up as quickly as possible, certainly within the next ten years, I would say.
00:10:04.000So, it's come time to button everything down, and you can't kid about it anymore when you're, you know, trying to tie everything down.
00:10:11.000You have to call it exactly what it is.
00:10:13.000I don't know if they're accelerating their program, or whether it's just like a natural phenomenon when a candle burns brightly, it means it's about ready to burn out, you know?
00:10:23.000So, I think it's accelerated, but whether they've planned it to be that way or not, I wouldn't have any way of knowing.
00:10:32.000But why would they go from admitting that they're doing, I mean denying what they were doing, to admitting what they're doing?
00:10:40.000I mean, doesn't that hurt them to say, there's no world government, there's no carbon tax plan, just two, three years ago, to, yeah, there's a world government, it's going to save Africans by cutting off their power.
00:10:50.000Well, I think the answer to that, Alex, is that if they had said, yes, we're building world government, they'd said that three, four, five years ago, people would have been shocked.
00:11:13.000So see how fortunate you are that we've got this masterful plan to save you?
00:11:18.000So I think now they're talking about world government because finally they can present it as a so-called solution to all of the problems that are infecting the planet.
00:11:28.000And in the Copenhagen Climate Summit, in disarray after Danish tech's leak of the official treaty that they want to get people to sign, they didn't mean to bring this out until the last few days.
00:11:39.000Get the third world all thinking they were going to get to loot the West, because they're playing groups off against each other, and now they find out, oh, the IMF and World Bank will have all the power, not the UN, and this tax money will be doled out to you if you reduce your population and set up a global one-child policy.
00:12:04.000And so the IMF, World Bank, these are arms of the same private central banking system that we live under.
00:12:10.000That's right, that has always been the source of the ultimate power.
00:12:13.000Certainly here in the United States, people are beginning finally to understand that the power is with the banks, not with the government.
00:12:20.000That the government supposedly was to control the banks, but we can see in the recent events in Washington when all of this money is created out of nothing and it goes to the banks and the The congressmen dutifully vote for it without even understanding what the bills are.
00:12:38.000I think anybody can see now that it's the banks that are running the show and not the government.
00:12:43.000So, there will be no difference at the international level.
00:12:46.000It is coming out in the open that the IMF and the World Bank will be the center of authority and power.
00:12:51.000But the banks want to create a new global government structure because there's no Bill of Rights, there's no Constitution, there's no Declaration of Independence.
00:12:58.000It's just pure, even the Guardian admits, secret world government run by private corporate interests.
00:13:04.000It actually says that in the text and now the London Guardian Is talking like G. Edward Griffin.
00:13:23.000The United Nations Unanimous Declaration on Human Rights.
00:13:26.00030 points, but in 29 and 30, all the rights given are privileges the UN can revoke.
00:13:32.000Yes, and you don't have to wait until you get to the 29th and the 30th one.
00:13:35.000Every one of them along the way says, for example, everyone has the right to freedom of speech, except, as may be provided for by law.
00:13:44.000Everyone has the right to employment, or the right to travel.
00:13:49.000Everyone has the right to freedom of religion.
00:13:51.000Everyone has, you know, all these rights, but in every condition, in every provision, they say except.
00:13:57.000As may be provided for by law, which means you've got these rights until they pass a law and take them away from you, which means you never had them in the first place.
00:14:08.000On the subject of the private Federal Reserve, the holding company, the private banks that own and control it, they have stolen trillions of dollars.
00:14:26.000I'm taking a moment to think about it because I don't think the mechanisms are in place right now for the will of the people to have much effect.
00:14:35.000The government of the United States is firmly in the hands of collectivists who are beholden to this financial global power.
00:14:44.000And they care what the American voters think, but not as much as you might suspect that they do.
00:14:50.000They don't care so much about people who write them letters as they do about people who write them checks.
00:14:56.000And so I think when the public becomes upset by this and starts to demand change, as they're now doing, the politicians are maneuvering and thinking not in terms of how we're going to bring about the change, but how we continue doing exactly what we have been doing and to shut the public out of the debate and to just proceed in spite of the public opposition and concern.
00:15:19.000So to answer your question, I see an increasing pressure for genuine rebellion.
00:15:26.000In this country, which scares the dickens out of me, because I don't think that would be a good thing.
00:15:30.000And we've seen the elite preparing for that.
00:15:32.000Preparing for it, and I think hoping for it.
00:15:35.000Because they know that if there is widespread civil violence, that will be the excuse they really want in order to clamp down with martial law.
00:15:44.000That's why they've got Northcom in place.
00:15:47.000So I worry a lot about that, but you asked me the question, where do I think it's going?
00:15:51.000I think that's probably where it's going to go, and I hope we can reach enough people soon enough to prevent that from happening.
00:15:59.000Obviously educating people is a big part of the solution and we're doing that.
00:16:03.000But at the same time, as you said, running for city council, county commissioner, school board, we need to start getting into the power structure at the grassroots and start moving into the federal government as well.
00:16:14.000The globalists have the long view, that's why they've been successful.
00:16:22.000That is the mantra that I have been preaching for so many years.
00:16:26.000Most Americans have a very short attention span and they have a very short view of the future.
00:16:33.000And even those who are greatly concerned about what's happening in America today want a solution that they think will happen within the next election.
00:16:45.000And if we can't do it in the next election, they're not interested.
00:16:47.000Well, I'm here to say it's not going to happen in the next election, or probably not even the one after that.
00:16:52.000Because they give us a Bush, they give us an Obama, same policies, different rhetoric, and just the rope-a-dope continues.
00:16:58.000As long as we're committed to this scam between the Republican and the Democrat Party, which appears to be offering people a choice, when in fact it's not.
00:17:10.000As long as people buy into that Republican-Democrat nonsense, there is no hope of changing the system.
00:17:17.000So that's where education comes in, and it's also where the Freedom Force strategy comes in, where we want people who are aware of this to go into government.
00:17:26.000To try and become influential in their own government.
00:17:29.000Instead of just standing on the outside of the halls of power, looking in, and writing letters of complaint and petition, we want them to organize and to run for office.
00:17:38.000And then, even if they're in low positions, they will gather support by the grassroots, be propelled into higher positions, they can leak documents, they can whistleblow, they can bully pulpit, they can sabotage globalist operations.
00:18:28.000We think that this can be turned around, but not by the next election.
00:18:32.000So it's a kind of a pessimistic view and an optimistic view at the same time.
00:18:36.000It's pessimistic in the sense that we'd all like to see a return to normalcy and prosperity and safety and all of that.
00:18:42.000We'd like to see that happen real fast, but it's not going to happen real fast.
00:18:47.000But the optimistic point is that if we lay the foundation today, If we get people to understand the basic principles of freedom, and if we get them organized and networked together so they can go into the power centers of society, including the political parties, but also the church organizations, the schools... That's what FEMA's doing.
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00:19:09.000The UN document came out last week, where over a decade ago they took over the public schools locally, brainwashing the kids.
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00:23:59.000All right, we've got this segment we've got this segment and part of the next.
00:24:28.000And then we've got a guest joining us from Copenhagen in the last 20 minutes of this transmission.
00:24:36.000G. Edward Griffin is in studio with us.
00:24:38.000He's going to be speaking at Brave New Books tonight in Austin, Texas at 7 p.m., and then at the Courtyard Austin Downtown Convention Center, 300 East 4th Street.
00:24:58.000because you don't need to go through the registration.
00:25:01.000You can come at 8.30 for coffee and pastries or get there at 9.30 as Mr. Griffin starts his presentation at 9.45.
00:25:06.000Don't want to miss that Saturday in Austin, Texas.
00:25:10.000Okay, we're getting a long view of history.
00:25:12.000I think these victories against the Federal Reserve, though, exposing them, their polling numbers going down to less than 20%, the environmentalists being unmasked as private corporate takeover artists, all of this is showing the people, though, that we can have victory.
00:25:29.000You know, being a public figure, I get off airplanes in Latin America, Canada, towns all over the U.S., and literally, cars stop as I walk down the street.
00:26:09.000I remember when I was a lot younger, I was in a bigger hurry than I am now.
00:26:14.000But it's comforting to know that You and I are putting in place principles and organizational structures and strategies that cannot be stamped out.
00:26:25.000I don't care how strong the engines of tyranny are.
00:26:29.000They cannot overpower the force of the knowledge and the principles that we're building right now.
00:26:35.000And that is going to build through the next generation and I think the following generation after that.
00:26:42.000Sounds like a far distance down the road, but it's not that far.
00:26:46.000I think we're going to see this whole thing turn around within that length of period.
00:26:51.000I can go to bed at night and really sleep well thinking that I have a part.
00:26:54.000But they are racing to put the technocracy in place, but that we told the truth, had a testament of who the bad guys were, and what liberty could be, those seeds Billions of them have been planted.
00:28:28.000I know a little bit about the Federal Reserve System and the first time I came across that strategy in the economic field was in the evolution and the origin of the Federal Reserve.
00:28:36.000The very people that conceived the Federal Reserve, then having got it proposed and an actual bill going before Congress, then they started to lead the opposition against it.
00:28:47.000In such a way that it was bound to fail.
00:29:06.000Yeah, they said, uh, this Federal Reserve bill is not good for business, it's not good for America, but they did this as bankers.
00:29:13.000And they knew that when that story got into the news, people would say, hey, Maude, look at this, these big bankers don't like this Federal Reserve system very much, must be a good bill.
00:29:23.000You know, they knew that that would be the reaction of the average person.
00:29:27.000So they're clever, they're smart, they didn't get to be in the positions of power that they are by being stupid.
00:29:32.000But we, on the other hand, can't be stupid either.
00:29:34.000We must understand that people do that.
00:29:37.000They do, uh, provide false leadership.
00:29:40.000They do present, uh, false, uh, images out there, just deliberately to trick the, uh, the mind of the... Absolutely.
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00:33:39.000But, G. Edward, in the last six, seven minutes we have with you, I want to give you the floor.
00:33:43.000We were talking during the break and you said it is really coming to a head.
00:33:46.000And I agree with the long view of history.
00:33:48.000They're not going to give up overnight.
00:33:50.000I've given the analogy of Climategate being the Death Star plans getting out, and now, with their whole program in disarray, the Death Star's blown up.
00:33:58.000But they're still Imperial Star Destroyers, the Empire's still occupying all our systems, they're still in all our nations, but it's shown the rebellion that if we can blow up one of their biggest operations in the Info War, we can destroy these people, we can defeat them with the truth.
00:34:15.000That's so true, and what can I add to that except that the thought that's always on my mind is it's relatively easy for people to know what they don't want.
00:34:57.000Congress controlling our currency, cutting down the size of government, getting state sovereignty, getting rid of the government run public schools, not making the superheroes the sports people or actors but being inventors again, getting back to a renaissance society.
00:35:14.000And also, even deeper than that, we could go and talk about political principles.
00:35:18.000What is the proper function of the state?
00:35:22.000Where did our system go wrong, or did it go wrong?
00:35:24.000These are the things that I want to hear more in the debate, and I recognize you have to mobilize people on the flashpoint, the anger point.
00:35:32.000You know, this is what they don't like, but the reason I created Freedom Force, as you so well know, is because I wanted people to think about the political and ideological principles The things that we should be building into the system, after we recapture control of it, and we have a chance to create a better system, what will it be?
00:36:11.000Yes, and what I want to see is for people to recognize that this is the same animal, whether it is in Nazi Germany or Red China, even today, or in Cuba, or if it's growing in the United States.
00:36:33.000Because once you understand the principles of collectivism, you will not tolerate its growth, even in your own country.
00:36:40.000Yes, I'm very optimistic about this rising tide of resistance to the growing tyranny, but now I think it's time for us to really focus on having people recognize on the positive things we want to replace it with.
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00:37:57.000All right, ladies and gentlemen, I am extremely I'm honored here today to have Engineer Tom Harris, Executive Director of the International Climate Science Coalition, a massive scientific group set up to counter the IPCC science fraud.
00:38:15.000It's been proven to be a premeditated fraud.
00:38:17.000We don't just have the Climategate documents, we have the UN documents last week, where they've been organizing the fraud together.
00:38:23.000And he is in Copenhagen right now putting on their own conference.
00:38:26.000The website is CopenhagenClimateChange.org or ClimateScienceInternational.org.
00:38:34.000And for the last 22 minutes of this radio transmission from Copenhagen, Tom Harris joins us.
00:38:41.000Tom, thank you for spending time today.
00:38:47.000In a nutshell, tell us about your group, your take on ClimateGate, the Danish text of the treaty where the third world will actually have to make more cuts than the West, devastating them.
00:38:58.000Lord Monckton talked about the millions that will kill a year, just like what the ethanol scam has done.
00:39:03.000And where do you think this conference is going in light of all this evidence of fraud coming out?
00:39:12.000Yeah, well, to start out with, the International Climate Science Coalition is a non-profit group of scientists who were not able to get into most of the UN activities.
00:39:21.000Some of them actually were, but they disagreed with the UN.
00:39:24.000We have with us about 60 scientists who are our advisors, and it was decided that we should actually ask the UN for some basic data.
00:39:33.000Because, you know, one of the main concerns after ClimateGate was, if the temperature data is corrupted, how much else is?
00:39:39.000And you know, we hear about extreme weather events increasing and all that sort of thing, but many of these scientists are actually experts in that field and they know that the extreme weather records were set in the 1800s and early 1900s when it comes to typhoons and hurricanes and things like that.
00:39:53.000So instead of actually making the point to the UN that they're wrong, we thought, well look, if they're not sharing data on temperature, why can't we get them to share data on everything else?
00:40:04.000So we sent an open letter to the Secretary General of the United Nations And it's interesting that the project actually started about a month ago, before the CRU scandal, you know, the climate gate.
00:40:15.000And at that time, you know, we were getting signature a day or something like that.
00:40:18.000But after the scandal in England, we've been swamped with signatures.
00:40:23.000We've been getting hundreds of signatures of leading scientists from around the world who are now saying, well, if that data was wrong and manipulated, we want to see all the data.
00:40:32.000So I went through the list and, you know, some of them are leading experts, but they're not.
00:40:39.000So I pulled out 150 of them who actually are climate experts from 17 different countries who are now demanding that the data be released in a whole range of fields.
00:40:49.000And it's going to be very interesting to see what the UN do, because in some cases, like their polar bear scare, the data shows that the population has more than doubled since 1960, and that they've been around for about 70,000 years, during which time it was hotter than they're forecasting for the 21st century.
00:41:05.000So it's going to be tough for the UN to answer our challenge.
00:41:11.000I'm sure you've been following that in New Zealand and Australia and Canada, NOAA, NASA, other universities are being caught fixing the data along with the IPCC, that the UN had this strategy, that people were already trying to get Oh yeah, exactly.
00:41:26.000the Climate Research Center data, because they were already being caught in fraud by the research.
00:41:32.000But now we know that it's premeditated.
00:41:35.000And so this is just the tip of the iceberg is more whistleblowers come out, more scientists that were persecuted.
00:41:40.000I mean, I think it's safe to say that the beginning of the end of the charlatans has begun.
00:41:47.000Do you agree that they're starting to really bleed out?
00:41:52.000And I think that if they do start to respond to our challenge, you know, in a way it would be good because, well, from our point of view, it would be good because then we can find more of these flaws.
00:42:01.000But the fact that the U.N. probably won't respond to our challenge is actually an admission of guilt.
00:42:07.000Because if you think about it, this data was collected with public money, It shouldn't have been 17 years of trying to get the data before a whistleblower, who is probably the cause of this, not a leaker, not a hacker.
00:42:21.000It shouldn't have taken 17 years to get the basic data that was Well, I mean, you talk about polar bears.
00:42:27.000And so I think that ClimateGate has been a great Christmas gift to us because it's shown an example of what they've suspected for years, and that is that when you look at the real data, much of the climate scare is just simply not there.
00:42:40.000Well, I mean, you talk about polar bears.
00:42:44.000I have seen on television, they're teaching children that penguins are drowning when it's an aquatic bird that can barely walk and can't fly because it's meant to swim.
00:42:54.000Polar bears, the greatest land-swimming animal, routinely swim over 100 miles, have been recorded to swim over 300.
00:43:03.000But just two weeks ago, Austin News said the polar bears are all dying, they're drowning.
00:43:08.000They showed video of them floating on ice packs, where they're out killing seals in Beluga.
00:43:14.000The fraud of the hockey stick, the fraud of carbon dioxide, simultaneously with temperature rise when it comes, as you know, hundreds of years after.
00:43:21.000I mean, everything these people say, the oceans will turn into acid, acid rain.
00:43:26.000In the 70s, Holdren said we had to put out giant terraforming factories to double CO2 or we'd be in an ice age by 2000.
00:43:34.000I mean, the level of fraudulent quackery is just, this is clearly the greatest scientific fraud in history.
00:43:42.000Can you comment on that and then what you're witnessing in Copenhagen?
00:43:48.000I mean, obviously, there were big scientific frauds in history, like thinking the Earth was flat, and that six-sevenths of the Earth was covered with land.
00:43:54.000There were lots of frauds, but I don't think any of them have cost the world as much as this one.
00:43:59.000I mean, this one, they're talking about literally trillions of dollars.
00:44:02.000You know, if OECD countries followed Kyoto, the cost, it's estimated, would be about a trillion dollars a year.
00:44:09.000And that would mean that for one year's of Kyoto expenditure, they could actually fix the freshwater drinking problem in Africa virtually forever.
00:44:17.000And right now, there's about 5 million people a year, mostly children, who die in Africa due to bad drinking water.
00:44:24.000And that problem could be solved with one year's expenditure on Kyoto.
00:44:27.000So independent of, you know, your politics, one of the points we're trying to make is that this is just a bad use of money.
00:44:36.000Not just for right-wing or center, but we're also trying to attract left-wingers, which we're slowly doing, because, you know, left, right, or center, nobody wants to throw a trillion dollars a year down the drain, although sometimes I wonder.
00:44:47.000But regardless, we're finding that one of the reasons we haven't been winning up to this point is because we only are attracting our traditional allies.
00:44:56.000You know, people like yourself and others who think about the issues, but also people who generally tend to be a bit right of center.
00:45:02.000But if we're going to win this debate, we have to get a lot more people on our side.
00:45:07.000We have to make allies with people ordinarily.
00:45:09.000Well, sir, I agree, but I mean, the way to reach out to the left, and I'm past the left-right period.
00:45:15.000And just a realist is conservatively we're talking about millions and millions of people dying a year of a fraction of these carbon cuts are made and now we learn in the draft treaty that third world has to make close to double the cuts of the first world.
00:45:32.000I mean, even if the left, you just believe this would be a big money grab to help the third world, it has nothing to do with that.
00:45:38.000It's an insider trading carbon derivative system developed by Ken Lay.
00:45:46.000I mean, this is just a giant carnival scam.
00:45:49.000One of the things that people forget is that there's a lot of investment firms who have invested billions of dollars.
00:45:55.000I won't mention the names because I don't want to get sued, but the bottom line is I said to one of the carbon brokers the other day, I said, such and such a company has bought a billion dollars worth of carbon credits.
00:46:44.000And so what you're seeing is an enormous vested interest in actually keeping the scare alive.
00:46:49.000And that's a scary thing, because how long can the scare continue if the data's wrong?
00:46:54.000Well, it might continue for quite a long time if there's enough people funding it.
00:46:58.000And that's basically what it comes down to, I think, is that there is billions to be made, even, you know, as some people say, hundreds of billions, if, in fact, the scare continues.
00:47:07.000So if scientists laugh, you know, at the conference that we organized, or helped organize, They said, how long does it have to cool before politicians stop calling it global warming?
00:47:17.000Well, actually, it might cool for a long time, and that's what many of the scientists are saying, but the scare may continue anyways, because there's so much money behind it.
00:47:26.000You're talking to a lot of top, real, non-political climatologists, and, you know, the sun, they say, is the main driver, but also this nuclei coming out of space.
00:47:36.000There's a lot of other things going on.
00:47:37.000It does appear that most of the climatologists we reach say, no, actually, it's a normal cooling trend.
00:47:43.000What is the majority view with the scientists you're talking to?
00:47:47.000Well, the majority view is that they don't know.
00:48:08.000Clouds are a hundred times more influential on climate than humans, all human activity combined.
00:48:14.000And yet, it was only 10 years ago that we thought the net impact of clouds was to contribute to global warming because, of course, it's water vapor and that's a greenhouse gas.
00:48:23.000But recently, they've found that, in fact, clouds are a net cooling agent because they reflect more of the sunlight into space than they actually trap in the atmosphere.
00:48:31.000So not only have they changed the magnitude of the cloud impact, which, as I say, is far more than humans, but they've even changed the sign.
00:48:39.000So the whole concept of the science is settled.
00:48:44.000It's probably not CO2, whether it's the sun, whether it's ocean currents, whether it's land use change, whether, as you say, it's cosmic rays from space.
00:48:52.000I mean, the bottom line is we're in an era of negative discovery, where the more we learn, the more we realize that we just don't understand.
00:49:01.000We're a giant planet hurtling through deep space orbiting a gigantic sun.
00:49:06.000I mean, and they're saying that humans exhaling five and a half pounds or flatulence from bovine that have always been on the planet are deadly.
00:49:19.000And the sad thing is that many conservatives who actually know it's wrong are saying the wrong thing.
00:49:26.000You know, the Conservative Party in Canada, for example, before they came into power, they said they were going to get to the bottom of the climate change Kyoto scare.
00:49:33.000Once they got into power, their spin doctors clearly told them they could get more votes if they just changed their tune and said the same thing as Al Gore.
00:49:41.000And so that's what they've done, and I'm really ashamed as a Canadian to have our government saying things they know very well are completely wrong.
00:49:48.000We find that it's strange, but with the Liberal government before our current Conservative government, they would allow the occasional climate skeptic to come into committee hearings to testify.
00:49:58.000But ever since this supposedly conservative government has come in, they've actually closed the door totally.
00:50:04.000Oh yeah, look at Newt Gingrich, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:51:22.000Executive Order 10-990 locks down all highways.
00:51:27.000Executive Order 10-995 seizes control of all media outlets.
00:51:31.000Executive Order 10-998 controls all farms and food supplies.
00:51:36.000All these executive orders are now cocked, loaded, and waiting for the right crisis.
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00:52:02.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
00:52:06.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
00:52:09.000As we're finishing off this agenda, They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
00:52:14.000I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
00:52:20.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
00:52:26.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
00:54:24.000Every time I think about it, I want to cry.
00:54:28.000With bones in the dirt, they'll keep Tom Harris, Executive Director of the International Climate Science Coalition, a massive scientific group set up to counter the IPCC.
00:54:38.000We've only got about five minutes left right now, sir, and so I'd like to talk about what you're witnessing, what the mood is there, how Climategate is affecting the different 191 countries there, how the Danish text, doubling the cuts for the third world, resulting in just genocidal starvation.
00:55:01.000Well, I think you have to realize, first of all, that both India and China have stated off and on throughout the whole year that they have no intention of restricting their economic growth to cut carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases.
00:55:12.000So, I think the chances that they would have agreed to even a more benign treaty on their part were pretty slim to begin with.
00:55:18.000And also, in India, we're starting to see the growth of a lot of climate skepticism.
00:55:22.000You know, many of the Indian glaciologists, for example, are completely rebutting the UN on Himalayan glaciers.
00:55:29.000So, in India, I had an interview today, actually, with an Indian journalist.
00:55:33.000We're seeing the rise of climate skepticism like you've never seen it before.
00:55:36.000And I think that what's going to happen is that with these increased demands on the third world, they're just going to turn the whole thing down flatly.
00:55:44.000And, you know, it's interesting because in the United States, I understand that Even the Democrats are saying that without agreement from China and India, they're just simply not going to go ahead.
00:56:15.000The trouble is, of course, What do you do with all those cheap imports that are coming from countries that are fed to heck with greenhouse gas controls?
00:56:22.000I mean, it's just a death sentence for the American economy.
00:56:40.000You only put carbon controls on the West, it moves to China, India, Mexico, where they have no controls.
00:56:45.000Overall, the devil gas, the man-bear-pig gas, that's a South Park episode if you don't know, sir, increases, increases, then we're all dead!
00:56:57.000Well, one of the craziest things is China passed the United States in net carbon dioxide emissions in 2007.
00:57:04.000And even without these kinds of international agreements, you know, even if they just allowed them to continue to grow, they're going to be double the United States within about 20 years.
00:57:13.000So, in fact, if you don't get them on side, the CO2 emissions for the world are going to virtually stay unchanged.
00:57:19.000I mean, they're going to continue to rise, I should say.
00:57:21.000But, you know, one of the important things to realize is that throughout the world, there's countries who are now starting behind closed doors.
00:57:28.000Saudi Arabia did it, actually, in the UN meeting.
00:57:31.000They're starting to look at the ClimateGate data and they're starting to say, this is actually a social engineering project more than it is environmental.
00:57:39.000And we've heard within the Canadian government people telling me, look, it has nothing to do with environment anymore.
00:57:48.000Let me just... I want to mail you a copy of my film, Endgame.
00:57:51.000Sir, they admit at the UN this is eugenics.
00:57:55.000They want to cut... Maury Strong, the head guy, says it's to destroy industrial society.
00:58:01.000And we need to... I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:58:03.000Yeah, Kyoto is the flagship of the world governance program.
00:58:07.000I mean, you can see that very clearly.
00:58:09.000If you control the world's CO2, you're controlling most of the world's energy.
00:58:13.000And if you're controlling the world's energy, just as Russia demonstrated when they turned off the taps on the natural gas supply to Europe, you basically control whoever is at the other end of the tap.
00:58:23.000All right, reporting to us from Copenhagen, Tom Harris, climatescienceinternational.org.
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01:00:55.000And it gives the private IMF and World Bank that the taxes are paid to, the power to selectively enforce the rules.
01:01:06.000We'll be discussing that on this Friday, the 18th day of December, 2009 edition.
01:01:13.000I've seen some comments on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and I've gotten a few emails saying, why are you spending so much time on ClimateGate and not more time on government takeover of health care?
01:02:10.000As big as government takeover of healthcare is, quite frankly, it's nothing compared to open world government being established and the President signing us onto a treaty and saying he doesn't care if Congress doesn't implement it, that the United States will submit to global governance.
01:02:32.000And he's up there demonizing America as this great evil.
01:03:05.000There's so many lies and so many intricacies you could analyze the lies and fraud of this forever.
01:03:12.000Because it just ties into so many facets of government and the corrupt system we live under.
01:03:19.000We are not just covering the climate gate fraud.
01:03:22.000We're not just covering whether man-made global warming is real or not.
01:03:27.000We're discussing the issue of a dictatorial, planetary government being established that once established is going to force global one-child policies, force drugging of the population, force sterilization and abortion!
01:03:45.000This is already going on in India and China and areas of Africa and Latin America where the UN comes in and pays off the governments to carry out sterilization, arrest, forced drugging.
01:04:10.000So, global government, the end of America, the president in a treasonous fashion signing onto it, as he's swearing to do this evening.
01:04:21.000He says, in fact, even if it doesn't pass, even if they can't get the other dictatorships and communist countries to sign on, because it's too tyrannical, he says he's going to unilaterally implement it over the American people, to the UN.
01:04:36.000He's bringing us under UN-IMF World Bank receivership, whether we like it or not.
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01:10:06.000In fact, I had a folder in here that had all the Lyrics for I stirs in the Fed in the Fed the answer to 1984 is 1776 I'm setting bushfires in the minds of men You can better believe this radio show in our work and Ron Paul's work is a big Big influence on some of the latest music from Iced Earth, who reached millions of fans.
01:10:32.000So we're excited about having him in here for a full hour.
01:10:35.000Of course, it's the end of the Copenhagen event, the global government establishing event, and it is an Iced Earth there.
01:10:42.000Record cold temperatures right now in Denmark and in Canada and in other areas of the world.
01:10:48.000It was snowing a week and a half ago in Houston, Texas.
01:10:51.000It's generally basically tropical down on the Gulf of Mexico, entering into the mouth of the Caribbean.
01:11:00.000So that is coming up later in the broadcast today.
01:11:05.000Oh, and we have Robert Wannick, the high school student, who's won some of our contest awards, an active 9-11 truther.
01:11:14.000Robert Wannick got beat up by a teacher and suspended for handing out flu vaccine inserts.
01:11:36.000You try to hand that out, they get very angry.
01:11:39.000And he's got witnesses to the fact that he was assaulted in America by this particular school teacher.
01:11:46.000And so he will be joining us to talk about this today.
01:11:50.000It's funny watching Wanek the last two years go from like a 13-year-old kid to now the chin and the hormones going up and he's turning into a man.
01:11:59.000It's amazing to see that transformation.
01:12:03.000He was a little kid a few years ago fighting the New World Order.
01:12:07.000Let's just hope he can get out of high school without them setting him up and sending him down the river for daring to be a thought criminal.
01:12:26.000And in the rest of this segment, the next segment, I want to attempt to play the Obama speech and then stop it and make quick comments about his lies.
01:12:36.000If I don't finish now, I'll finish this later when we're live at PrisonPlanet.tv so you can watch the teleprompter reader.
01:12:43.000He doesn't have a teleprompter here, so he's having a lot of trouble.
01:12:46.000And here he is, the media said he was angry, he was desperate, he commits America even if the rest of the countries don't sign on.
01:12:56.000So we're going to now critique and translate and break down the manifest congenital fraud of Barack H. Obama today in Copenhagen, Denmark, trying to force through, according to what Ban Ki-moon says, the birth of world government.
01:13:18.000It is an honor for me to join this distinguished group of leaders from nations around the world.
01:13:25.000We come here in Copenhagen because climate change poses a grave Okay, he just states that it's an absolute fact, like a unified corporate press has been doing, that it poses a great danger, we've got to establish the global government, you've got to pay these taxes to us, or basically the earth is doomed.
01:14:07.000Okay, from the 191 governments, there are conservatively, on record, more than 50 of the delegates there who are questioning man-made climate change and questioning Climategate.
01:14:21.000And there are heads of state for many of these governments who are publicly saying it is a fraud.
01:14:29.000But there he said, you are all here, you are all here in agreement.
01:14:32.000He just keeps stating the lie that everyone knows the earth is doomed, everyone knows we've got to have the global tax, everyone is in agreement.
01:14:39.000So he just keeps stating the Borg lie that not only will you be assimilated, you have been assimilated.
01:15:09.000Now, what you just heard is just, and the body language says it, it's like Bill Clinton when he shook his finger and said, I did not have sex with that woman Monica Lewinsky.
01:16:24.000You gotta love how the three top institutions, NASA, Goddard, East Anglia University, And the UN itself, the three top groups, the head of the IPCC, has admitted now that he took out five scientists in the report who said man is not contributing to climate change.
01:16:46.000The UN's own report says maybe a degree.
01:16:53.000But you've got to love how they always say, well, What's really happening here is, sure, there were some mistakes and some lying by a few low-level scientists, but we have all these other hundreds of peer-reviewed journals.
01:17:07.000The peer-reviewed journals are all based on those lies, and there's hundreds of them.
01:17:12.000Classic examples in the last decade is there are thousands of buoys in the ocean, there are thousands of weather stations, and all the United Nations did was go cherry-pick the particular buoys and weather stations that did have increases for the year, and then only enter that data.
01:17:31.000Or they zoom in on the ice core sample record of temperature that is detailed down to 1,000th of a degree per year.
01:17:42.000And they go into that and they only zoom in on the last 50 years or so to show an increase we had in the last 50 years that's now declining.
01:17:49.000They don't show you that 50 years before that there was a spike, and 100 years before that a big spike, and 200 years before that a giant spike, tripling the spike we've seen, when people were running around in togas.
01:18:05.000The earth on average was 9 degrees hotter.
01:18:12.000You want to go back to the Bronze Age, the beginning of the Bronze Age, 9,000 years ago.
01:18:16.000Stuff got hot, and so humans could grow more food, and weren't just on the edge of starvation, and there were more animals grazing, so there was more to hunt, and so that's where we got the beginnings of civilization.
01:19:35.000Before Robert Wannick comes on at 1 o'clock today, at the start of this third hour, I'm going to play all this video and just try to give shorter comments on it.
01:22:06.000You wouldn't buy gold if you believed that the government is doing a great job, that the Fed will stop handing out trillions of dollars like bailout candy, that Social Security would be there for you.
01:22:17.000You might even pass on gold if the stimulus package wouldn't fuel inflation, or that the dollar wouldn't lose value, or that your retirement would be secure.
01:22:25.000If all looks rosy to you, then now is not the time to buy gold.
01:22:28.000For the realists, there have never been more sobering reasons to diversify with gold.
01:26:11.000So they tax the West, send money to the third world with 30% or higher compounded interest and say, we won't loan you this money unless you sterilize your people and shut down factories.
01:26:26.000The corrupt dictators and thugs that run the third world cesspits That we're fast becoming because of corruption.
01:26:35.000That's why they can't get up off their feet.
01:26:37.000Can't get up off their butts because they're literally under corruption.
01:26:41.000These countries use corruption as a way to keep control of people.
01:27:39.000They've already got an accepted draft, and they keep adding to it, but what's currently been accepted, what's currently been signed off on, according to the UN itself and the London Guardian, and Paul Watson has reports on this right now, at InfoWars.com,
01:27:57.000What's been signed off on right now establishes a planetary government that levies taxes over nations on all financial transfers and travel.
01:28:11.000And they're adding more all day long into the night.
01:28:15.000They're seven hours ahead of Central time, six hours ahead of Eastern time.
01:28:21.000And they're saying they're going to work through the night on this agreement.
01:28:58.000See, now we're finally talking about real issues.
01:29:01.000Global police states, global one-child policies, global armies, global taxes, it's all out in the open!
01:29:09.000They stalled you as long as they could, as they were moving their armies up, moving their tanks up, moving their artillery up, telling you, oh, we're not going to attack you.
01:29:19.000And now they open fire with their full barrage, thousands of artillery pieces, tanks rolling across, shock troops machine-gunning us in our foxholes, full globalist assault overrunning us right now.
01:29:33.000But thank God, a lot of us went out and warned everybody about this, and so a lot of our people were ready, and we are repulsing a lot of these attacks.
01:29:43.000But we're fighting for our lives, fighting for freedom right now!
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01:33:17.000He was in a bind, cause he was way behind and he was willing to make a deal.
01:33:20.000When he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
01:33:24.000And the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, boy, let me tell you what.
01:33:28.000I guess you didn't know it, but I am a fiddle player too.
01:33:31.000And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
01:33:35.000Now you play a pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
01:33:38.000I bet a fiddle of gold against your soul, cause I think I'm better than you.
01:33:42.000The boy said, my name's Johnny and it might be a sin But I'll take your bet you're gonna regret, cause I'm the best there's ever been Johnny Ross, milk your bull and play your fiddle hard Cause hell's broke loose in Georgia and the devil deals the cards And if you win, you get this shiny fiddle made of gold But if you lose, the devil gets your soul Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.
01:35:20.000We also are going to be talking about the science behind it.
01:35:24.000And we're also going to be talking about the latest in Copenhagen as open world government is being announced and it looks like established.
01:35:34.000Pierce Corbin is a leading, I set out to find someone who is known as a leading meteorologist, astrophysicist, I mean the degrees go on and on, and from all the experts I've talked to and looked at, he's one of the top forecasters who has accurately I've been forecasting weather at levels much more accurate than even governments and NASA and others, so he's here to explain to us today how he's been able to do that as well.
01:36:07.000Mr. Corbin, the British press calls you Dr. Corbin, but it all gets confusing with all these different scientific areas you're an expert in, but in a nutshell, tell us your main area of study about weather action and then the fraud of man-made climate change.
01:36:23.000Yes, well I got a first-class degree from Imperial College in Physics and then went on and did astrophysics at Queen Mary College in London.
01:36:35.000I developed from that into studying the Sun and how the Sun affects the Earth's weather.
01:36:41.000And after some years of studying all sorts of ideas, we developed this method for long-range weather forecasting called the Solar Weather Technique, which depends on the magnetic particles coming from the Sun and how they change circulation patterns on Earth.
01:37:01.000Subject to certain modulations, such as what the Moon is doing as well.
01:37:08.000And it... I mean, from studying most of the scientists we talked to, more and more say the evidence is showing that the Sun is one of the main drivers, but the UN, again on Monday, just declared, as if they were the Pope, saying the Earth is the center of the universe, and flat, they announced that the Sun has nothing to do with it!
01:38:11.000There's only, uh, one part in 3,000, uh, is carbon dioxide.
01:38:17.000Now, of course, they argue all sorts of critical processes, but we say, well, show us the evidence, actual observational evidence, that carbon dioxide drives temperatures and Extreme events, and there is none.
01:38:30.000And I was on Russian TV a few days ago pointing at somebody from the United Nations Climate Committee, the IPCC, and said, all right, if you have the evidence, email it to me.
01:38:41.000And I gave him my email address, peers at weatheraction.com, on the air.
01:38:47.000And of course, he won't, because there is no evidence.
01:38:50.000Well, most of these guys know it's fraud.
01:38:52.000I've talked to a lot of them at events, on the street, at Smart Growth Conferences, and they just off-camera laugh and say, and say, buddy, we're getting rich.
01:39:03.000I mean, this is just a band of criminals.
01:39:07.000I mean, I know some of them, you know, friends of mine in some sense, or they were friends of mine, saying, well, Piers, you, you know, quite openly, you may well be right, and they might even say you are right, but I've got mouths to feed.
01:39:20.000And, you know, they'll go on this gravy train for as long as it's there.
01:39:28.000I mean, we believe that whether action or science and policy-making has to be evidence-based.
01:39:36.000And this is not evidence-based, it's based on fraud.
01:39:40.000As you mentioned, there's been a whole lot of revelations coming out of the fraud.
01:39:46.000Not just that the University of East Anglia have been meddling with Data to make their bizarre little models fit history and rub out the medieval warm period.
01:39:56.000But we now know, for example, in New Zealand, data was chosen so that although the real data showed a falling of temperatures of 0.7 degrees centigrade per century, they fitted it to turn it into a rising of 1.2 degrees per century.
01:40:14.000And we now know that in Russia, they Selected Russian weather stations to choose the ones which were nearest to what they wanted so they threw away 75% of the Russian data and the Russians nicely announced this a few days ago at the same time as a cold blast of air whacked through Copenhagen to England bringing blizzards on the way at the same time as
01:40:42.000As Obama landed and we, in fact, at Weather Action had forecasted just these blizzards.
01:40:48.000Uh, from, uh, in detail from 30 days ahead, although the general idea is we often forecast from longer ahead.
01:40:54.000Now, one of their favorite tricks is you have hundreds of thousands of different sub-weather systems, according to what I've read, correct me if I'm wrong, and they will just pick one little area that's having extreme weather, but you're always, out of thousands of different areas, going to be able to find a few areas that are having extreme weather.
01:41:14.000You see, because, you know, every town and city has got a maximum, a minimum, a wet, you know, an amount of rainfall, amount of sunshine and so on.
01:41:22.000So you go around the world, in any year or month, you can find somebody who's got an extreme and you can announce it.
01:41:28.000Which, of course, isn't just nonsense.
01:41:31.000Whereas at Weather Action, from a long time ahead, we can announce periods, very short periods, around the world where there will be I see a whole lot of simultaneous, more or less simultaneous, weather extreme events, which happened, for example, from the 17th to 19th of November this year.
01:41:49.000There were enormous storms and deluges, I don't know, in the USA, in Africa, India, Australia, and Europe.
01:41:59.000And we predicted those a long time ahead.
01:42:01.000So, you know, there are real extremes going on, and those type of things they cannot predict.
01:42:06.000All they can do later after funding is say, oh, there's an extreme, that must be CO2.
01:42:10.000Well, shifting gears with appears Corbyn, shifting gears, sir, why have you been so accurate with long-term forecasting at weatheraction.com?
01:42:20.000Well, the reason why we're accurate is because we understand the essential nature of the magnetic and particle relationship which drives the Earth's weather and climate.
01:42:36.000Obviously, it's vastly complicated, so we don't have supercomputers to do it, or models, which, just like financial models, would go wrong.
01:42:44.000What we're able to do is, understanding the periods of the forcing factors and the changing forcing factors, is we can identify when in the past there were very similar Sun-Earth magnetic forcing factors affecting the world as there will be at some time in the future.
01:43:03.000So by knowing the past, you know the future, understanding the science.
01:43:08.000The point we make is there's nothing new happening.
01:43:11.000All the weather you see now has happened before sometime.
01:43:14.000We've just identified when in the past is going to be very similar to sometime in the future.
01:43:20.000It might be 40 years ago, it might be 100 years ago, but we have ways which are quite mathematically clever of finding Have you read about John P. Holdren, the White House Science Czar who's also involved in the Climategate emails?
01:43:40.000They're always saving us from something new.
01:43:42.000He says with geoengineering or terraforming, He says they're doing tests to manipulate the weather.
01:43:49.000The Russians, the Chinese, they all claim they can control the weather.
01:43:53.000In your modeling, I know you're looking at the entire planet, the sun, the particles, the nuclei coming in from space, but do you ever see anything weird going on because of some of the weather modification testing?
01:44:12.000If they could really control the weather, I don't think they'd allow a blizzard to happen when Obama landed in Copenhagen, so it certainly couldn't be that good.
01:44:22.000But I'm aware of these things that they are doing experiments with, and I know some things do work to an extent.
01:44:32.000Now, there's a curious little story about what happened in China recently, because in this period, the 17th to 19th of November, Uh, which we had predicted would be a lot of extreme weather.
01:44:46.000In China, there was, uh, well, the Chinese reported 3 million people who had to be moved out of their homes because of absolutely massive snowstorms.
01:44:58.000And there was also a story around that, although there may have been natural processes going on, that they were also cloud seeding at the same time or just before, and it made things worse.
01:45:11.000The problem is, of course, we've got no way of verifying this, because the Chinese government aren't going to say that they did this, which resulted in 32 people dying when some buildings collapsed.
01:45:22.000But we do know, as well, there were very real events around the world which we predicted a long time ahead, and they're based on looking back in the past, so there's no way they could have
01:45:35.000Well, I tend to agree with you because I've talked to Ben Livingston, the father of weather weapons and others, and he said they can, with the right conditions, they could make a hurricane, they could strengthen one or weaken one, but he said that when the giant weather system is coming in, that it's so huge that it's hard to control.
01:45:54.000But he says in smaller areas, They can manipulate things, and I would know that, well, the Russians... They've got to have the situation there already to, like, be triggered.
01:46:07.000Absolutely, but on top of that, it isn't that they couldn't knock out a smaller snowstorm, the Russians brag they can do that, it's that if you've got a giant northern blast coming in, it would be too big for them to manipulate.
01:47:30.000We're also in the situation where the effect of the Moon is to limit the effect of particles which would cause warming.
01:47:44.000When you get into an even cycle things change and in fact even cycles are generally colder and odd cycles, and we're now entering an even cycle.
01:47:54.000Sir, what would, I mean, as a leading astrophysicist...
01:47:58.000With cycle 23, we're just finishing, and we started cycle 24.
01:48:04.000I mean, as a leading astrophysicist and someone who studies the entire Earth-Sun-Moon relationship, what type of cycle or what area of the cycle were we in 9,000 years ago when the warming was, according to the graphs I've seen, much hotter than it's been in the last century?
01:48:26.000Well, to be specific, we'd have to look carefully, but the The world temperature will depend on the solar activity and how well that activity actually reaches Earth, which is about magnetic connectivity.
01:48:40.000And that is going to be affected not just by the 22-year magnetic cycle of the Sun, but also by their close orientation of the Earth's axis relative to the Sun's magnetic axis.
01:48:56.000There's a question of the solar-lunar things.
01:48:59.000And then there's the question of the slow cycles of general solar activity, which are, they're not just operating on the scale of 11 years or so, but on hundreds of years, if not many hundreds of years.
01:49:12.000So it's going to be all those combinations of the solar activity, lunar modulations and orientation.
01:49:21.000So I couldn't be specific exactly to say, but we should in principle be able to predict When in the future, similar things will happen again.
01:49:33.000When will we have something close to what happened during the beginning of the Bronze Age?
01:49:39.000Well, maybe never, because you see, sometime there's got to be a return to an Ice Age.
01:49:47.000The natural state of the world for the last few million years is Ice Ages, with intermittent warm periods of lasting You know, typically 10,000 years, which we're in now, and we are, you know, in year 10,000 now.
01:50:00.000So, logically, there is an Ice Age due.
01:50:04.000Now, it might have been that there was almost an Ice Age coming at about 0 AD, because, you know, since then, or 1,000 AD, since then it has been notably colder, but we don't know.
01:50:21.000What we can say about the next 100 years is, according to our Our theory, and I don't like using the word model because we, you know, it is, we base it on observations and equations rather than playing games with computers, although we do use computers of course.
01:50:37.000Our theory shows that we're in for a continuing general cooling.
01:50:43.000There will be fluctuations in it, but we don't expect to ever get to above the 1998 levels of World War II.
01:50:51.000Let's get into their fraud when we come back.
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01:57:04.000Well, they take about a couple of thousand years to develop fully, but what happens is the ice caps in both hemispheres would increase in size and it just gets progressively colder and the sea freezes over in the polar regions.
01:57:22.000It all just makes the, you know, moves towards the equator.
01:57:27.000So typically across the United States of America, you'd have an ice front, you know, and an ice cap would extend there.
01:57:36.000And in the case of the last ice age in Britain, it went through the middle of Britain.
01:57:42.000So the south of England was actually ice, not ice, and Scotland and the whole of Northern England and most of Ireland was covered in ice.
01:57:51.000And you could walk to Europe and the whole of Russia would have been covered in ice and Scandinavia covered in ice.
01:57:58.000So if an ice age comes, all those people would come south.
01:58:01.000So if all the Canadians, Scandinavians and Russians would all come south.
01:58:07.000Or else they'd find ways of overcoming this by building things on the ice, which is an interesting idea.
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02:00:48.000I mean, you see them, you're in England, you're around them, but this has exposed fraud throughout the United Nations system where they went out and recruited, and those documents are now public for those that don't know, and created a premeditated fraud.
02:01:03.000Well, as a scientist, I find it utterly reprehensible, and I'm astounded by the depth of it.
02:01:11.000You know, just choosing data sets in New Zealand and Russia, just meddling with parameters to adjust actual measured data or losing actual measured data when they produce their so-called world forecast.
02:01:26.000I mean, as far as we're concerned, not world forecast, world data set, as far as we're concerned, A data set produced for the world by the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia is rubbish and we're never going to use it again.
02:01:41.000We're instead going to try and use satellite data and work with other scientists around the world in order to try and develop an accurate data set of what happened in the past, which would improve our long range forecasts of climate and if anything of course it would make our projections of cooling into even more cooling.
02:02:01.000What should be done with the scientists?
02:02:03.000I think all those involved in this fraudulent activity should be sacked.
02:02:08.000And we have to demand that governments do accountable and evidence-based science and policy making.
02:02:16.000By accountable, their data needs to be public.
02:02:19.000I mean, that was the big red flag from the East Anglia facility, is that they wouldn't ever let anybody see their raw data.
02:02:30.000Some of the data was available, but they had these computer codes, which they used to allow for various things, as they put it, to make it more Accurate?
02:02:41.000Well, actually, of course, they were doing the opposite, which is why they didn't want to show what they were up to.
02:02:48.000And we should take our hats off to the guys who released it.
02:02:51.000However, I think it's quite likely it was actually an inside job, and they were releasing the data in the manner they had in order to try and say that it isn't accurate and can't be trusted, because if they had have released it under the Freedom of Information Act, then we would have been able to quiz these guys directly.
02:03:09.000Instead, one of them has stepped down for the time being, so he can't be asked anything.
02:03:14.000So I'm very suspicious of the whole thing, but, you know, it is now clear that it is failed science based on fraudulent data, and this fraud has been activated around the whole world.
02:03:27.000Well, the world's climate system, as you know, but for the audience who may not, is so incredibly complex that not even supercomputers can even begin to grasp it.
02:03:35.000That's why you can only look at past systems just to understand trends to forecast.
02:03:40.000Because, I mean, here's the Christian Science Monitor.
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02:08:08.000Piers Corbin is a world-renowned British weather forecaster and consultant, and owner of the business Weather Action, which makes weather forecasts up to a year in advance, and has one of the most accurate track records out there.
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02:08:48.000Long-term weather forecasting from WeatherAction.com.
02:08:53.000And of course he did predict more than a decade ago the cooling trend and that's now begun.
02:08:58.000But going back to Pierce Corbin, astrophysicist, meteorologist, the list goes on and on.
02:09:33.000Well, what we think they want to do, and it is pretty clear, is they want to create another bubble of false value using carbon trading, which is now worth hundreds of billions of pounds a year.
02:09:43.000And through this, they hope to control the world economy, hold back development of underdeveloped countries, and keep food prices high by burning food and biofuels.
02:10:04.000The result of their policies is causing starvation and food riots in a number of countries.
02:10:11.000And it's also causing, they claim, they're trying to build jobs in a low-carbon economy.
02:10:17.000But in Britain, we've got an example where a steelworks in northern England, in a place called Redcar, is closing because Tata Steel, who own it, are getting a handout for reducing carbon emissions in England.
02:10:31.000And at the same time, they're getting another handout for building so-called clean steelworks in India.
02:10:38.000So they're taking two billion quid, two billion dollars, and making 1,700 workers in Britain redundant.
02:10:47.000And lo and behold, the interesting to note is that the director of the Tata Steel Energy Research Institute is Dr. Pachirai, who is also chair of the United Nations No.
02:11:00.000IPCC, i.e. their panel on climate change, which is promoting carbon credit schemes.
02:11:06.000And for those that don't recognize the name, he's the guy that looks like Osama bin Laden.
02:11:13.000So expanding on this, to put this in layman's terms, a group of crooks are in there using taxpayer money to move what's left of Western industry to third world areas where they control the population and have slave wages.
02:11:33.000It's like Al Gore's Occidental Petroleum that he controls, being one of the worst violators of the rainforest, and things that actually can be registered as some type of environmental loss, even though it can be regenerated.
02:11:46.000The point is, is that I've always noticed, like Maury Strong, they are the biggest polluters.
02:11:57.000this, and here's another example, of the $50 billion given to General Motors, $11 million was spent to create green factories for, quote, these better cars.
02:12:08.000In Eastern Europe, in China and Brazil, U.S. taxpayers paid to have our factories shut down and moved overseas.
02:12:20.000And of course, the consequence in America and Britain is that wages wages are going to be forced down, and living standards are forced down.
02:12:27.000And the people that are running this whole show, Tata, Steele, and their sidekicks, get rich.
02:12:39.000I mean, what we just stated is the cold, hard facts, and my mind can't believe it, because it's just such, we're paying taxes to have our factories shut.
02:12:54.000And you see, some of the politicians probably believe they're saving the planet, but I hope that with Climategate they will realise that actually it's a fraud.
02:13:04.000Just like when Tony Blair had his war in Iraq along with Bush.
02:13:09.000I mean, they made up stories to justify it, and they believed that any story was good because they were doing his right.
02:13:15.000Some of them believe that for this, but in the case of Britain, a lot of politicians now realise they were tricks and they don't like it.
02:13:23.000And it may happen this time that a lot of politicians will realise now that this is a fraud.
02:13:27.000And we'll see things change around the world, I think, in the coming year.
02:13:37.000This is devastating to them because now all the previous hockey stick frauds from Mann and Santer's fraud, just removing from the UN's own report that Mann wasn't... Oh yeah, that was monstrous.
02:13:49.000I mean, we knew about that at the time, but I was kind of gobsmacked.
02:13:52.000However, when we talked about it, no one believed us, you know.
02:13:55.000It's just... But now, because some people have been working hard on it, it's come out.
02:14:04.000No, I mean, that's how I feel every day.
02:14:06.000It's that they're just open criminals, running around stealing, engaged in every form of mischief, and instead of them all being arrested, they're running the planet!
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02:15:10.000I'm about to give you some forecasting for the USA and Canada till December, which we're giving you free, although normally we do charge for it.
02:15:17.000But, you know, it's important stuff happening.
02:15:33.000Okay, in the last five minutes we've got, sir, give us your forecast.
02:15:36.000Yes, important things happening in the last part, the closing of the last third of December.
02:15:44.000Basically between the 19th and 31st, there's going to be a series of waves of severe and at times dangerous and wintry weather, both in the USA and Canada.
02:15:56.000And the main periods are going to be the 19th to 20th, and there's a lot of them, 22nd to 25th to 27th over Christmas, so keep you indoors, and the 28th to the 30th.
02:16:11.000Now that is especially extreme and could involve storms as extreme as the things that happen between the 17th and 19th of November around the world.
02:16:22.000That'll be a simultaneous event around the world, but certainly major cold blasts and snowstorms.
02:16:28.000in the USA, probably, you know, certainly including the Midwest.
02:16:34.000Now, we normally have a bit more detail than this, and we will put out for that period some more details as far as we can ascertain it.
02:16:45.000And in the past, we have put out quite a lot of detail.
02:17:26.000We'll have to, we've got to do a lot more work on American forecasts because our most scale is Britain, Ireland and Europe.
02:17:36.000And there's going to be simultaneous events.
02:17:37.000You can get them free if you look in Europe, too, as is happening in America.
02:17:44.000The main driver or the pattern, the most significant pattern in America is a kind of 60-year cycle, which is about what's called the Pacific Decadal Oscillation.
02:17:57.000Yeah, the last drought was in the early 50s, the really bad one, and now we've had another drought.
02:18:04.000Well, that's right, you see, it's about 60 years later, you see, and these are driven, or, well, let's say, what happens in the Pacific is part of the climate system which gives these things, and that climate system, the 60-year cycle, can be understood in terms of the lunar modulation of the magnetic cycle of the Sun, and this is explained on our website in various
02:18:29.000Yeah, for those that don't know, the moon drives the ocean, it blocks out solar radiation... That's right, that's right.
02:18:38.000It interferes with the solar wind, so the plane of the moon's orbit has a period of about... it rotates around the sun every 18... But according to the UN, the sun, the moon, nothing!
02:18:51.000Well, they would say that, wouldn't they?
02:18:53.000I mean, you know, they have a mission to con us.
02:18:59.000But the cons are so big to say polar bears can't swim, their numbers are down, when it's a flood... Polar bears are doing very well actually.
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02:21:03.000one ounce gold coin to be purchased for 11 35 16 567 58 for a half ounce or 283 79 for the quarter us that's 11 35 16 568 58 or 283 79 how is it that we the people grow the cotton weave it into fabric engrave the ink embed the strips and fibers that protect it from counterfeit then cart the money off to a privately owned bank to have it lent back to us at interest forcing us to pay taxes to Is this capitalism?
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02:24:23.000My head really does spin sometimes that they're telling school children in government-produced documentaries that penguins are drowning and that polar bears are drowning.
02:24:37.000I saw it again two, three weeks ago on KXAN locally in Austin.
02:24:41.000I've seen speeches at the Copenhagen event last week, and I'm hardly even watching it, where they're saying the polar bears will all disappear.
02:24:48.000They've got giant billboards up saying, don't let the polar bears die, and giant billboards of little girls saying, please don't let me drown.
02:24:56.000They're telling kids the ocean, like the day after tomorrow, funded by Globalist, is going to come crashing over with 500 foot waves, knocking over the Empire State's building.
02:25:09.000I mean, it's as ridiculous as saying giant flying saucers are going to land and thousands of Marvin the Martians are going to march off with ray guns if we don't pay Al Gore money.
02:25:23.000The UN on Monday came out and again countered and said, the sun does not affect climate.
02:25:31.000And then millions of zombies went, the sun does not affect climate.
02:25:55.000And now, of course, it's come out, not just the White House memo, not just the Downing Street memo, But yes, it's come out in the last two weeks that Tony Blair, this is BBC reporting, confirms that Tony Blair knew there were no WMDs.
02:26:09.000Of course they knew there were no WMDs.
02:26:12.000Of course they consciously knew and lied and went to war.
02:26:17.000Not, oh they thought they were there and they were wrong.
02:27:21.000You don't know how to stage terror attacks.
02:27:24.000Because even if blowing up the World Trade Centers killed 3,000, if we don't fight the Arabs, they're going to take over the world!
02:27:35.000And America's weak and had to be taught and had to be shown a lesson so they'd get behind defending our sovereignty and stopping the Muslims.
02:27:44.000And then in every case, the radical Muslims are funded by our government, on record, and used to overthrow mainline and moderate and secular governments in the Middle East and Central Asia!
02:27:56.000Yes, I know there are wild-eyed Muslims that want to chop your head off and drown their daughters, because our stinking government and the British government put them in power!
02:28:06.000Our criminal government likes to deal with dictatorships!
02:28:33.000Kind of like an acorn existed before it was buried by a squirrel.
02:28:40.000And then watered and loved and taken care of.
02:28:44.000And then now is used to menace the West to give up all of our rights in the name of fighting the dangerous brown-skinned men that wear turbans that look funny.
02:28:58.000But then you find out it's all a Hollywood production.
02:29:03.000And you get the Homeland Security documents that we got and we broke.
02:29:09.000And it said, first people couldn't believe it.
02:29:13.000And people said, I guess it's alright if veterans are the number one threat and Homeland Security is really set up for American gun owners.
02:29:21.000That is a treasonous, larcenous, treacherous, criminal, illegitimate government.
02:29:27.000It's a corporate group of crooks that have hijacked the nation.
02:29:32.000Now, I know you know that, but we better get that message out to everybody we know, or these people are going to succeed in starting World War III with the American people.
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02:34:08.000It was written by the insurance companies.
02:34:10.000We're going to get Wayne Madsen's take on that.
02:34:12.000So, the more we learn about the Copenhagen Agreement, the more we learn about the health care agreement, we find out why they want to keep them secret.
02:34:19.000Because the minute you see them, you find out it's just like the banker bailout.
02:34:44.000Okay, break down Copenhagen, break down your take on health care, and then I want to get your take on Russia saying they may engage in preemptive war now because of NATO and U.S.
02:34:55.000Well, certainly with this Copenhagen thing has turned into a, you know, basically a three-ring circus, and I think a lot of people who went over there who had justified fears that wherever they came from in the world, whether it was low-lying South Pacific islands, Or in the Andes where the glaciers are disappearing and the water is becoming scarcer.
02:35:18.000They all went to Copenhagen thinking something good was going to happen.
02:35:21.000They're looking there now and seeing George Soros, Hillary Clinton with billions of dollars at stake, this carbon exchange program.
02:35:31.000I think the carbon exchange is something Bernie Madoff is now wishing he was Out of prison and involved with.
02:35:41.000Well, Ken Light had invented it, I mean.
02:35:44.000Right, and so what's all these people, what have they encountered in Copenhagen, but police tear-gassing them, arresting them en masse, just like we saw at the anti-G8 meetings, just as we saw it at Davos and other places where these same people get together, and I think many people
02:36:07.000Who are, you know, members of Greenpeace, The Air Club, World Wildlife Fund, you know, people, you know, concerned about the environment and the climate are looking and saying, what in the world is this mess?
02:36:18.000And, you know, to see their, you know, their supporters, you know, people from indigenous areas around the world being arrested on masks.
02:36:26.000You know, you've got Hugo Chavez going to Copenhagen, Evo Morales to Bolivia, Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua, they're looking at their Fellow countrymen being arrested, they're shaking their heads, and they're looking around, who do they see?
02:36:41.000I'm surprised Tony Blair, he probably wanted to be there, but he may be facing more crime charges soon.
02:36:46.000He tried to run for President of Europe, and he lost that.
02:36:49.000But it's that same crowd, they're looking around at these people, who you see at all these various global meetings, and they're shaking their heads.
02:36:57.000They said, you know, I'm sure they're thinking, this isn't a double-cross, this is really like a triple-cross.
02:37:03.000That's right, they suckered the third world and said you're going to get a bunch of loot from the West.
02:37:08.000They show up, they get the actual trading and it says they've got to make right at double the carbon cuts the West does.
02:37:14.000And the money's not even paid to the UN, it's paid directly to the World Bank and the IMF.
02:37:22.000Right, then you have Soros over there talking about special drawing rights, trying to get his hands into the IMF money.
02:37:29.000You know, anytime you see Toros involved in anything, you know, run for the exit because somebody's going to have their pocket picked pretty liberally.
02:38:36.000The third world's already learned about that assistance.
02:38:39.000Well, I think what we're going to see is basically a gridlock out of Copenhagen.
02:38:43.000There'll be some kind of motherhood apple pie statement.
02:38:48.000People will smile and say they agree to it, but there'll be a lot of world leaders leaving there, especially those from Africa, Latin America, South Pacific, Asia, shaking their heads and saying, this is what we expected.
02:39:01.000This was typical of these big countries, the Western countries, and I think Then we'll probably hear about some future meetings somewhere.
02:39:10.000We'll get a lot of propaganda about, I don't know where it'll be, and it may be some other city.
02:39:14.000We've already seen them in Kyoto and Jakarta.
02:39:17.000They'll probably pick out some other city.
02:39:21.000This is probably going to become like the Olympics.
02:39:23.000Everybody's going to try to get this climate change conference to make some money.
02:39:29.000Shifting gears to the war, for those that don't know, maybe give them some background.
02:39:35.000Of course, the Downing Street memo, the White House memo, it's confirmed that Blair and Bush knew there were no WMDs.
02:39:42.000It's not that they screwed up and were wrong.
02:39:47.000They wanted the oil, they wanted the weapon sales, they wanted to box in Iran and China and Russia and get their set pieces in there for future conflicts like 888 that blew up in their face, thank God.
02:39:59.000But now more is coming out that Blair knew was premeditated.
02:40:04.000And so there's talk of war crimes, charges against him.
02:40:13.000What is the rest of the world saying about this?
02:40:15.000Well, I think what we're seeing with Tony Blair, he's now going to be testifying before the Chilcot Inquiry in London.
02:40:21.000We've seen already some testimony that's pretty explosive out of there, saying that Blair, of course, knew there was no WMDs, decided to go to war against Iraq anyway.
02:40:33.000You know, preemptive warfare is against the Nuremberg, what we got out of the Nuremberg trials.
02:40:40.000And I think we're going to see greater calls for Tony Blair To be prosecuted in the Hague, and if that happens, Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, Mr. Rumsfeld better watch out because they may be in fact next.
02:40:54.000Now Blair's going to be testifying in public, we understand, and it'll be very interesting to hear what he has to say, but obviously he's been caught.
02:41:02.000He's been caught with his pants down on this one.
02:41:05.000Now he may try to get out of it by saying, you know, he wanted to be A good ally to George Bush, and if that happens, then of course the onus will shift to Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney.
02:41:15.000And notice they've been hiding out, you never see them anymore.
02:41:19.000Yeah, Cheney was kind of active with his mouth a few months ago, but I noticed he's been, he's probably, he's working on his memoirs, supposedly, and they're going to be out apparently in 2011, but he's probably spending a lot of time at his Nice home over on the eastern shore of Maryland or out at his private country club community in Wyoming.
02:41:44.000Right, well he also has a big house he built right near the CIA headquarters in McLean, Virginia, but he's probably, being the Artful Dodger, he's probably going between the various homes, though, in case there is any Interpol or Red Swarm put out, he's probably going to be pretty hard to nap.
02:42:04.000I don't think they're going to let Interpol go after Lord Cheney.
02:42:08.000But in closing, Wayne Madsen, I want to get into health care.
02:42:14.000Now, folks, I've been telling people since we got the first versions of these bills five, six months ago, there's been, I don't know, more than 10 versions now.
02:42:21.000Every one of the versions was written and their lobbyists have bragged to the Wall Street Journal.
02:42:27.000The head lobbyist for the health care industry and the other head lobbyist because they have consortium leaders for the insurance companies.
02:42:38.000Uh, we're talking about five years in prison, quarter million dollar fines, 2.5 to 5% of your paycheck, depending on your, your, your, your, uh, your, your tax bracket put into a fund.
02:42:51.000Uh, all of this is going on and, and it gives liability protection to the insurance companies and the doctors.
02:42:59.000Uh, It does federalize and let bureaucrats start setting the treatments for people.
02:43:04.000It cuts back on tests that are essential.
02:43:19.000Breakdown what's really in the bill, why we are seeing some actual honesty from the Democratic Party, some sectors of it, and what you think is going to happen with this bill, Wayne Madsen.
02:43:29.000Well, what we saw come out of the bill was a proposal to extend Medicare benefits to people 55 and older.
02:43:43.000We also saw another proposal to have a public option basically emaciated.
02:43:48.000That's why the Obama administration and their congressional supporters have lost the support of people like Howard Dean, Russ Feingold, all people I might add who may be potential challengers to Mr. Obama in the 2012 primary.
02:44:05.000We're hearing a lot more about him maybe even having more potential challengers than Lyndon Johnson had in 1968.
02:44:11.000Unpopularity over the war, the healthcare fiasco.
02:44:16.000Johnson, of course, had Eugene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy and decided he wasn't going to run again.
02:44:22.000But Obama may face, actually, more challengers than Mr. Johnson did in his final term.
02:44:30.000But what we're seeing is now we're hearing calls that people may refuse en masse to pay the fine nationwide.
02:45:07.000from some of the people on the progressive side of the Democratic Party in Congress.
02:45:12.000And I'd be surprised to see Mr. Emanuel last much past the new year.
02:45:18.000Politico and The Hill, both D.C.-based publications for folks that aren't aware of the fact that they're not just web publications but based out of D.C., They're both saying that Emanuel just calls up and screams at senior congressmen in a Hitlerian fashion.
02:45:37.000That is going to blow up in their face and I've seen this with hype machines.
02:45:41.000The bigger they build something up, if it doesn't deliver, it implodes even faster.
02:45:47.000And Obama, for the last six months, has had the lowest approval rating of any president this far into His first year, and now he's even breaking his own records.
02:46:00.000I mean, it is a dive straight downward because people are finding out this is a warmongering, police state loving, secret arresting, rendition promoting, lobbyist hiring, neocon, masquerading as a communist.
02:46:18.000You know, and I hear people call him a communist.
02:46:30.000I mean, they're joking, but they're really kind of serious in making those allegations.
02:46:35.000But the other thing that's interesting is we have a federal judge now who's been assigned the Rod Blagojevich criminal case in Illinois now, stating that he would not be opposed to the defense.
02:46:45.000Blagojevich's defense lawyer's calling his witnesses, Mr. Emanuel, and get ready for this, Mr. Obama.
02:46:52.000And on that whole thing with the selling of the Obama Senate seat, if that happens, if the President will try to invoke executive privilege, and so will probably Emanuel, I don't know how he'll do it, though, because all this happened before they were sworn in, or became, you know, in the case of Obama sworn in, Emanuel being appointed Chief of Staff, but we could have a real constitutional crisis on top of everything else, and that just does not bode well for this administration if that should occur.
02:47:19.000Well, if that starts happening, look for Blagojevich's aircraft to blow up, or for him to have a sudden aneurysm, or a 72-hour brain tumor.
02:47:30.000Well, we'll have to see how that one goes, but we all remember the hype when Bill Clinton, of course, had to testify in the Paul Jones case with the independent prosecutor, Kenneth Starr.
02:47:44.000We had talk of a constitutional crisis there.
02:47:48.000Uh, but that certainly did not do much for Clinton's paramembers when you have the sitting president testifying, uh, in a case like that.
02:47:55.000Uh, we may see the same thing happen to Mr. Obama and, of course, Emanuel and David Axelrod, uh, Valerie Jarrett and other key members of this administration.
02:48:05.000So do you think, uh, the healthcare is gonna pass?
02:48:09.000I think it'll pass, um, I mean, it's not gonna be, it's not, what we see come out isn't gonna be very much, I mean, I think people who were hoping to see something for people who are uninsured are going to be sadly disappointed.
02:48:22.000You know, the fact is, isn't it funny that the guy that this all hinges on is Joe Lieberman, the guy who supported McCain in the last election, was Al Gore's running mate, of course, in 2000, who was put in a Senate from Connecticut because William Buckley hated the sitting Republican, Lowell Wicker, so much, who he's considered too liberal, he said, I'd rather have a conservative Democrat in that seat than Lowell Wicker, and hence we got Lieberman.
02:48:51.000Lieberman is basically a Republican parading around as a Democrat.
02:48:54.000Finally, maybe some people are waking up and seeing him for what he really is.
02:49:00.000Well, Wayne, my issue is anything they do, even if you're for socialist health care, then it better be socialist.
02:49:17.000Russia is announcing they may preemptively use nukes if anyone gets in their business.
02:49:22.000Well, I think, obviously, looking at NATO now, coming right up to their borders, we have the NATO Secretary General, Rav, Rasmussen, who is the former Danish Prime Minister, he's a neocon.
02:49:37.000I mean, so he's going to basically do everything on the neocon playlist.
02:49:43.000And they're looking at all this, and they're saying, well, if you're going to play hardball with us, we can play hardball back.
02:49:49.000And I think we're going to see a lot more elements that are going to look like the Cold War, but I don't think we'll ever go back to those days.
02:49:57.000But there'll be a lot of grandstanding, certainly.
02:50:13.000Yeah, I mean Obama doesn't want to do much on that and there's a lot of complaints even out of the State Department that Obama's dragging his feet on that.
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02:55:14.000And he was just handing out the inserts at his government training camp, trying to warn his fellow students, and was assaulted by a teacher.
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03:08:23.000Coming up, health care bill wouldn't bring real reform.
03:08:27.000Howard Dean says he's getting ready to get somebody to run against Obama in 2012, because he knows Obama is going to be out of there.
03:08:38.000This is the third Administration of George W. Bush.
03:08:57.000And if you're a socialist who really wants government health care, you're a well-meaning liberal that wants to help people that don't have health care, you have to be against this bill.
03:09:13.000Because it's, as Dennis Kucinich said, it is nothing but a corporate rip-off.
03:09:17.000It raises your taxes and cuts your benefits.
03:09:27.000Now, I'm against free healthcare, because there's nothing that's free in this world, and it gives government control over your life, and any big government system turns into a rip-off.
03:09:38.000Because only big, powerful financial interests can come in and move the levers of government.
03:09:43.000So, any big government is always going to burn you, and is always going to be a fraud.
03:10:43.000And finally, the real elite is being revealed.
03:10:45.000Now, in Copenhagen, The meeting is in trouble because Africa, Asia, and Latin America have discovered that it's massive taxes paid directly to the IMF and World Bank from the Third World and the First World, the developing and the developed, to be paid to the IMF and World Bank.
03:11:48.000Then when you see Obama up there talking about how war is peace and how this is a great deal for the third world and how America's bad and has to pay its debt, that's meant to sell the left and America bashers on, oh, we're going to get behind this when it's actually genocide to their countries and is actually meant to target them and destroy the development of their industrial capacity.
03:12:15.000And as a death sentence, just the U.S.
03:12:18.000and Brazil, shifting to 30% of their cornfields to ethanol, doubled world food prices and killed an extra 10 million people from starvation.
03:12:43.000Now in this segment and the next few, I'm going to play Obama's speech today in Copenhagen, the final day of the official world government event.
03:12:51.000I mean, that's what Ban Ki-moon calls it, that's what Van Rompuy calls it, the head of the EU, head of the UN, Schwarzenegger calls it that, David Rothschild calls it that.
03:13:01.000No more denial, private world government.
03:13:04.000So I'm going to play Obama and briefly stop him and cover each lie.
03:13:53.000More than 50 of the delegates of the 190 plus that are there, on record have said they are questioning Climategate and the official story, and a bunch of world leaders from those countries are questioning it, and that's on record.
03:14:07.000You know, the President of the Czech Republic, countless others, the Russians, you name it.
03:14:12.000The Japanese, the Chinese, the Indians.
03:14:51.000university in England that produced the key documents and the head scientist for the IPCC, Santer, separately from ClimateGate, now admits, as of Wednesday on national U.S.
03:15:03.000television, This is huge news that he took out five areas of the report where the UN's own scientists said, man is not causing this.
03:16:39.000So he's saying this is science, this is fact, you can't question when their scientists have been proven in premeditated fraud.
03:16:49.000Here's a guy saying pay taxes to a private global corporation, the World Bank and IMF, or the seas are going to rise and you're going to drown.
03:18:08.000That's why it's going to get colder here.
03:18:09.000I mean, it's not a conspiracy theory, folks, that if you stand in front of a fireplace, it heats your hands, and that the sun heats up and cools off.
03:18:19.000It oscillates in cycles, in 21-year cycles, in 11-year cycles.
03:18:26.000I mean, ancients worshipped the sun because they knew it created the heat.
03:18:30.000The UN said on Monday, no, it's not the sun.
03:18:49.000The sun is what mainly drives climate.
03:18:51.000I don't know how many climatologists and astrophysicists I've got to have on to explain that.
03:18:56.000But when somebody tells you the sun isn't involved in the temperature, ladies and gentlemen, this planet would be below zero And would be hundreds of degrees below zero in days if the sun went out.
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03:25:48.000China's passed us last year of putting out the most carbon dioxide.
03:25:53.000Let's not stop them from putting lead, mercury and melamine in the baby milk and in the medicines and the foods and all the crud they ship over here.
03:26:52.000We've been sucked dry to fund this and we're intensifying our funding to buy all you third world countries off.
03:26:59.000And most of you Presidents and Prime Ministers and Parliament Heads, you've all gotten giant cash payments from us to sell your people out.
03:27:10.000You deliver cutting off the resources and fossil fuels to your millions of people, many of which are living on the edge of starvation, and millions of which do starve.
03:27:19.000You kill your people for the New World Order because that's what Dutch Rochelle and the Queen of England and David Rockefeller want.
03:27:29.000That's why we've taken bold action at home by making historic investments in renewable energy, by putting our people to work Increasing efficiency in our homes and buildings.
03:27:55.000And then they use all that fake environmentalism to block out real environmental action, real environmental controls, like genetic engineering and things that are truly dangerous, nanotech, CERN reactors, superconducting super colliders, a lot of these super advanced technologies the Pentagon admits they're messing around with antimatter, that's in the San Francisco Chronicle.
03:28:17.000Oh, let's not have any real controls on stuff that really is dangerous!
03:28:22.000Let's just, hey, you're for the future.
03:28:35.000By pursuing comprehensive legislation to transform to a clean energy economy.
03:28:43.000These mitigation actions are ambitious and we are taking them not simply to meet global responsibilities.
03:28:50.000We are convinced As some of you may be convinced, that changing the way we produce and use energy is essential to America's economic future.
03:29:03.000That it will create millions of new jobs, power new industries, keep us competitive, and spark new innovation.
03:29:12.000We're convinced, for our own self-interest, that the way we use energy, changing it to a more efficient fashion, is essential to our national security because it helps to reduce our dependence on foreign order and helps us deal with some of the dangers posed by climate change.
03:29:35.000So I want this plenary session to understand America is going to continue on this course of action.
03:29:45.000We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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03:34:11.000To mitigate our emissions and to move towards a clean energy economy, No matter what happens here in Copenhagen, we think it is good for us as well as good for the world.
03:34:26.000But we also believe that we will all be stronger, all be safer, all be more secure if we act together.
03:34:36.000They're going to make the climate cuts here, which is even better for them in phase one, just like the big, famous steel mill that just closed in England.
03:34:44.000The government paid them millions of pounds, millions of US dollars, to shut down and move to India with no emissions controls.
03:34:54.000So even if you believe that polar bears can't swim and that carbon dioxide that plants breathe is a deadly poison, this is going to produce more of that deadly poison.
03:35:04.000That's why it is in our mutual interest to achieve a global accord in which we agree to certain steps and to hold each other accountable to certain commitments.
03:35:18.000After months of talk, after two weeks of negotiations, after innumerable side meetings, bilateral meetings, endless hours of discussion, Among negotiators, I believe that the pieces of that accord should now be clear.
03:35:43.000First, all major economies must put forward decisive national actions that will reduce their emissions and begin to turn the corner on climate change.
03:35:57.000Even if you believe the UN's own Cook numbers, all of our evil carbon dioxide may increase the temperature by one degree and may make the seas rise between seven and twenty inches.
03:36:12.000The seas are actually slightly dropping right now, and you can just go to any major coastal relay center online and read their 10-year numbers on the level.
03:36:22.000Last five years, San Francisco's water level has gone down by a few inches, on average, but it goes up and down.
03:36:29.000The point here is That he's saying we've got to have these global emissions controls.
03:36:36.000All nations must implement this under this international agreement.
03:37:35.000Just like they attack your country if you try to build your own nuclear reactors, or if you try to have your own central bank, they will attack you over your carbon emissions.
03:37:45.000They will put sanctions on you and then, yes, physically attack you.
03:37:50.000These measures need not be intrusive or infringe upon sovereignty.
03:37:53.000They must, however, ensure that an accord is credible and that we're living up to our mutual obligations.
03:37:58.000on climate change, global governance, as they've stated.
03:38:23.000I don't know how you have an international agreement where we all are not sharing information and ensuring that we are meeting our commitments.
03:38:56.000Number three, we must have financing that helps developing countries adapt, particularly the least developed and most vulnerable to climate change.
03:39:09.000America will be a part of a fast start funding that will ramp up Okay, stop right there.
03:39:23.000They say they're going to help the third world.
03:39:26.000All these are IMF World Bank loans backed up with Western tax money, and the loans are given, this was going on in 73 under State Department memorandum 200, where Kissinger's talking about, we give them loans to sterilize their women and to cut off food.
03:39:42.000And in the future, you won't get Loans unless you cut the amount of food you eat.
03:39:56.000Hillary Clinton, my Secretary of State, made it clear that we will engage in a global effort to mobilize $100 billion in financing by 2020.
03:40:06.000If, and only if, it is part of a broader accord that I've just described.
03:42:04.000They're upset because they were told they didn't have to make cuts and the first world did, that they were going to get tax money.
03:42:09.000Now they learn they have to make cuts almost double, not quite double, almost double what the West has to make and that the IMF and World Bank will be collecting all this money and keeping it for themselves and the third world knows how corrupt those institutions are.
03:42:25.000So here he is, like he's the arbiter between the first world and the third world and the developing world.
03:42:32.000You know, he's the arbiter when he clearly is a representative of the Anglo-American New World Order.
03:42:38.000For those advanced nations who think that developing countries either cannot absorb this assistance or that will not be held accountable effectively and that the world's fastest growing emitters should bear a greater share of the burden.
03:42:54.000We know the fault lines because we've been imprisoned by them for years.
03:43:05.000Energy, cheap energy has allowed humans to grow and has lifted a lot of people out of poverty.
03:43:13.000He's now saying cutting people's energy off is cutting their bondage off.
03:43:19.000Meanwhile, governments actually try to block real technological development and in this treaty it says the UN will decide what new technologies can be funded and developed.
03:44:53.000You don't care about your children and grandchildren if you don't give in to this.
03:44:57.000When in truth, cutting off the fossil fuels of the third world, in their own Club of Rome documents, the State Department memorandum 200, is meant to kill people en masse by starvation.
03:45:08.000Which is how Mao Zedong did it, and how Stalin did it.
03:45:11.000This is a death sentence, and Obama knows full well what he's doing.
03:45:16.000That's why he's the brown face on this, Hoping to sucker the third world into their own death sentence.
03:45:22.000That's why he was put in power, was to sell this.
03:45:25.000That's why he was given the Nobel Peace Prize, to sell war.
03:45:31.000Falling back into the same divisions that have stood in the way of action for years.
03:45:37.000And we will be back having the same stale arguments, month after month, year after year, perhaps decade after decade, All while the danger of climate change grows until it is irreversible.
03:45:52.000Ladies and gentlemen, there's no time to waste.
03:46:54.000Europe's going to sign on and we're going to have our taxes raised to give more money to the IMF and World Bank to go buy off the third world, the third world leaders, to murder their people by starvation.
03:47:16.000And there's a lot of you out there that think it's the received knowledge that we've got to reduce world population and that it's the right thing to do.
03:47:23.000Well, you go ahead and kill yourselves then.
03:47:25.000Do not sit there and have a death sentence for these little African children and Latin Americans and Asians and others, and then see American standard of living dropped.
03:47:36.000There's tens of millions of Americans on subsistence right now.
03:47:39.000There's people that freeze to death every year in this country, having their power turned off.
03:47:45.000This is genocide for all of you people that have been sold on this being cutesy and cute by the corporate media.
03:47:51.000You know the corporate media is death!
03:47:54.000What are you doing being sold by this?
03:48:12.000There has to be movement on all sides.
03:48:15.000To recognize that it is better for us to act than to talk.
03:48:22.000It's better for us to choose action over inaction, the future over the past, and with courage and faith, I believe that we meet our responsibilities to our people, and the future of our planet.
03:49:40.000And he's won one of our postering contests before, and this time he got expelled for handing out the actual inserts that show you what's really in the flu vaccine.
03:49:58.000They don't want that being handed out.
03:50:00.000So he's trying to warn fellow students In his off time, at school, and this is what happened to him.
03:50:06.000Robert Wannick, tell us again where you're hailing from, and exactly what happened to you.
03:50:10.000Well, thanks for bringing me on today, Alex.
03:50:13.000I attend school in Breckenridge, Minnesota.
03:50:16.000I attend Breckenridge High School, and every Wednesday we have a group meeting of classes called Connections.
03:50:24.000Last Wednesday we were given forms to receive our H1N1 vaccine on Wednesday the 16th.
03:50:31.000I decided it would be a great idea if I'd fill out one of these forms and attend the clinic to educate others of the possible risks, which a school should actually promote self-education of students.
03:50:57.000The first step that was taken was my principal called my mom and asked her if she had signed this H1N1 form, knowing that I'm anti-vaccine.
03:51:06.000She said yes because she supports the education of other students who may not be aware of the risk.
03:51:15.000So they were already watching you and didn't know why you were agreeing to do it.
03:51:28.000And so the 16th came, this Wednesday, and they were calling the juniors down to the science room to get vaccines from Wilkin County Public Health.
03:52:30.000I was out of the room within 30 seconds.
03:52:34.000But I decided that I couldn't go back to class yet if these kids had no clue what they were putting in their bodies, so I decided to address the line.
03:52:43.000So I handed out about 30 flyers, one to each kid in line, except for the science teacher's son, who refused one, and many of them started dispersing and leaving the line.
03:52:53.000Others just said, you know, I have a choice, and... I mean, this is real rebellion against tyranny, but the science teacher kid... I'm a scientist.
03:53:02.000I don't look at what's in the vaccine.
03:53:18.000So they didn't even know they had a choice because all over the country it's come out they are forcibly inoculating mainly elementary students because they don't know.
03:53:27.000And the funny part about it was the nurse actually tried to almost tell him that it was, um, it was mandatory.
03:53:44.000And all you heard was the public health officials trying to lobby his opinion to keep him in there saying that... Well, see, that's how this works.
03:53:51.000One person says no, and half the people in the line go, yeah, I don't want it either.
03:53:55.000They were just intimidated under the group psychology, the mob psychology, to do it.
03:54:02.000And then once these students started walking in with these printed-off flyers, they started asking questions like, have you guys heard of this?
03:54:12.000And the nurses The nurses either wanted to take the flyers or get these vaccines done as quick as they could because every single student walked in with one.
03:54:20.000That's when my principal emerged in the hallway with a law enforcement officer and said, go back to class, Robert, yelled at me down the hallway, or I'll have you arrested and removed from school grounds.
03:55:49.000But what I did was I ducked and slid under her arm into the vaccine room where the, where some teachers were already, were already being vaccinated.
03:55:58.000I handed out about three or four flyers and the science teacher comes up to me and I said, just let me hand out flyers on You can get your vaccine, I just want to hand out flyers, and then I'll leave.
03:56:10.000He grabs me, both hands by the shirt, and says, get out.
03:56:14.000And right now I had a student with a camera, just for protection, in case I would get assaulted.
03:56:22.000And he goes, puts his hands out, and says, I'm not assaulting you, and proceeds to ram me with his chest, to make it look like he's not assaulting me.
03:56:30.000And he rams me out the door, and he notices that there's a student out there that has a camera.
03:56:36.000He doesn't know if the camera's filming or not filming, but this obviously upsets him because he just broke the law.
03:56:44.000He goes to grab the camera, and the student does a handoff to me.
03:56:49.000I start walking down the hallway with the camera, and it takes him a while, but he notices, runs up to me, and what happened next was something that I didn't expect to happen.
03:56:57.000I thought he would ask me for the camera, but before asking me, he grabs me by my shoulders and says, give me the camera.
03:57:06.000Now, this is... The policy is, if you refuse to give up an electronic device, you receive two detentions.
03:57:13.000Now, if the school was just and followed their policies, this would be definitely worth continuing my operation of... But this guy is Judge Dredd, so he's gonna physically punish you.
03:57:26.000Yeah, so I said, you know you're not getting the camera.
03:57:36.000As if he's bear-hugging me, but aggressively, and begins to jerk me around trying to get the camera.
03:57:42.000And, which leads to me being flung sideways into a locker.
03:57:46.000I then got free, and began to remove the memory card, because I didn't want to be assaulted anymore in the hallway, so I figured I'd give him the camera and keep the memory card for any footage.
03:57:57.000And, what he did now then was grab my wrist with the memory card on it, grab my wrist hard and say, And he said, give me the hard drive.