Big Brother and the mainstream media are covering up the truth about gun control. You want answers? Well, so does Alex Jones. He's on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas, Red Alert. President Obama has introduced bills in Congress like H.R. 1022 that allows the attorney general to have unlimited power, God-like power, to ban any guns or erect any gun laws he wishes through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).
00:00:26.000President Obama Has introduced bills in Congress like H.R.
00:00:32.0001022 that allows the Attorney General to have unlimited power, God-like power, to ban any guns or erect any gun laws he wishes through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.
00:00:44.000Cass Sunstein, his regulation czar, has given speeches and written white papers we covered last week saying he does not believe in a Second Amendment individual right and that they will overturn the Second Amendment.
00:00:56.000They've tripled the size of the BATF under Bush.
00:00:59.000Now Obama has them doing knock and talk all over the country, even in conservative states like Arizona and Texas.
00:01:06.000They knock on your door and say, may we come in and look at your firearms.
00:01:10.000They have local police under federal grants doing it.
00:01:32.000They want to be able to put you on a no-gun-buy list with no judge, no jury, no conviction.
00:01:37.000They've got a bill to do that called no-fly, no-buy.
00:01:40.000Now, last night on the Sunday radio show, I got a call saying that the Texas Gun Show, that comes to Austin once a month, That the police were there giving out notices saying, with the BATFE, now it's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, that there's no law, but we're ordering you not to privately sell guns.
00:02:00.000Now, you have federal law under taxation, under the 68 Gun Control Act, that they then expanded into the NICS system, and then they expanded that in the 90s with the assault weapons ban that got overturned.
00:02:14.000To where they instantly register you as a gun owner, handgun, rifle, or shotgun.
00:02:20.000And in Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, once they register and Handgun Control Incorporated and the Violence Policy Center admit their goal is Total disarmament.
00:02:59.000They first got a ban, you being able to sell it to your grandpa, your grandpa sell you one or give you one.
00:03:05.000They've tried at the Texas legislature and other legislatures under federal funds to get the states to ban the so-called gun show loophole, implying it's criminal and bad and it's a loophole for private sale of guns.
00:03:18.000The laws they tried to pass in 2000 and 2002 in Texas said you couldn't even sell a gun to your neighbor or to your son or daughter or your father.
00:04:00.000Now, I've got Officer Jack McClam waiting in the wings, but I want to go over this because we're now simulcasting the radio show at PrisonPlanet.TV.
00:04:08.000I want to put on screen the InfoWars.com article.
00:04:12.000There is the public notice, the actual scan of what was handed out in Austin Friday, Saturday, and Sunday at the Texas gun shows.
00:04:21.000We have a direct link to the Texas gun show.
00:04:25.000Give me a document cam shot on this please, Craig.
00:04:58.000Public notice selling of firearms at the direction of the Austin Police Department.
00:05:03.000At the direction, no law, not even a city law, that's unconstitutional.
00:05:07.000And the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, anyone selling a firearm at this show location, will be asked to comply with the following.
00:05:15.000So there, it's illegal, color of law, intimidation, they admit you're being asked.
00:05:19.000Now here's where the real felonies come in, of official oppression, of color of law, of civil rights violation of the Second Amendment, and also of commerce clauses for right to contract and sell.
00:06:23.000When government just comes in without a law, anything, and says it.
00:06:27.000Now all over the country, literally hundreds of times, cities and counties have passed unconstitutional laws saying you can't sell your neighbor a gun or go to a gun show and have a private sale.
00:06:52.000And the gun show, we're going to get on the broadcast, is asking people to sign a petition to the Texas Attorney General to stop this.
00:06:58.000But we've confirmed this is going on nationwide and BATFE, federally, and local police all over the country are knocking on doors saying, we want to come in and inspect your guns and trying to force their way in without warrants.
00:07:17.000All the guns will be taken, no one will be allowed to be armed.
00:07:20.000They went into high and dry areas, went into women, men, handcuffed them and took their guns even if they didn't resist and never gave them back.
00:07:27.000This is absolute lawless criminal treason by the city of Austin and by the BATFE.
00:07:45.000You better not follow unlawful orders.
00:07:47.000And for 25 plus years, Officer Jack McClam, Vietnam vet, most highly decorated police officer, cop of the year twice in Phoenix, woke up to this, became the most fired.
00:07:57.000He's with us for the rest of the hour.
00:07:58.000And we're going to open the phones up specifically on issues.
00:08:33.000This is insane and totally tyrannical.
00:08:38.000I'm looking at the But this isn't even a law, Jack!
00:08:44.000versus Madison that says all laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.
00:08:51.000And where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rulemaking or legislation which would abrogate the constitutional rules.
00:09:10.000And when they go into the gun shows to arrest somebody for doing this, I would like to see everybody in the gun show grab those police officers and ATF officers and arrest them under a citizen's arrest for tyranny.
00:09:26.000Because that's exactly what they're committing.
00:09:31.000The people ought to grab them and put their own cuffs on them and hold them for prosecution.
00:09:38.000Uh, but now, you know, when I was in Phoenix, Arizona as a cop, me and the other cops saw the most criminal prosecutors, I mean literal criminal prosecutors, that would destroy evidence, manufacture evidence, and pay witnesses to get on the witness stand and lie through their teeth.
00:10:02.000they're the only ones that got promoted up to judgeships in Arizona.
00:10:08.000And around the country, the same thing happened because the criminals at the top, the terrorists and the treasonous scumbags at the top of our system, they don't want to be prosecuted, so they only elect criminal they don't want to be prosecuted, so they only elect criminal prosecutors to judgeships But, Jack, there is no doubt that the Austin Police Department knows this is illegal and the BATF knows it's a crime.
00:10:37.000I mean, they know it's illegal to go around telling people they can't do things without a law.
00:10:47.000And so it's time for the people to stand up, brother.
00:10:50.000Psalm 94.16 in the Bible says, Rise up against the evildoers and stand up against the workers of iniquity.
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00:11:19.000And his communist By the way, every one of his czars gives public speeches praising Mao and, I mean, these people are criminals.
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00:15:56.000Okay, I'm going to Roy, Mitch, Kevin, Pete, and others.
00:16:07.000It's confirmed the gun show's fighting it.
00:16:10.000They're asking people to sign a petition to the Attorney General of Texas.
00:16:13.000They're saying there's these lawless people here in uniforms with no law or regulation or even fake ruling just saying you can't have private sales of guns.
00:16:56.000Jack, I've had a lot of constitutional scholars on, Larry Becraft, Ron Paul, countless others, but I'm asking you, as a peace officer and one of the leading experts in this, am I right that this is a violation of civil rights, constitution, official oppression, intimidation, racketeering, that this is being done through pure color of law?
00:17:16.000I mean, there's so many things that this is illegal on.
00:17:54.000Citizens arrest on these people because a citizen can arrest when he sees, or she sees, a felony committed in their presence.
00:18:07.000And there are thousands of federal... ...to arrest somebody under this.
00:18:12.000Then they are committing a felony in the presence of the people there, and the people have a right to do a citizen's arrest on these guys and put them in their own handcuffs and hold them until the police get there.
00:18:26.000But that's what they're doing is out in the open.
00:18:28.000We have thousands of state and federal rulings about cases with police.
00:18:33.000If a cop's raping somebody or robbing somebody, you know, it is a citizen's arrest.
00:18:39.000Because the citizens constitute the state that then charters the cities.
00:18:57.000I like Thomas Jefferson's quote, no free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
00:19:03.000The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves from tyranny in their own government.
00:19:13.000And that's exactly what's going on right now, brother.
00:19:31.000Yes, I've got another little tidbit of information that I found out.
00:19:36.000I had to leave the show at about 2 o'clock, and then I had to come back up there at about 5 to meet someone, and what I found out, what I'd missed, is that they actually led one of the vendors out, who I've known for a long time, they led him out in handcuffs after he apparently sold a firearm to an illegal alien.
00:19:57.000I'm not sure if they're using illegal aliens without IDs to set up some of these... Oh, they're definitely doing stings.
00:20:03.000That was my next point I meant to make last hour, was that they're setting people up.
00:20:08.000They're trying to set the precedent and a chilling effect so people don't exercise their right to have private sales.
00:20:14.000So someone refused to follow their illegal order and so they set him up.
00:20:20.000Yes sir, and what I found out also is that they confiscated some of his, everything he had brought to the show Again, I did not witness this, but it's from a very credible source.
00:20:31.000Recap, how they were giving out the notices, what you saw, the petition against it, what was going on in Austin.
00:20:38.000Well, a friend of mine, who had come from out of town, who met me at the show, he called me at 8 o'clock in the morning and asked me, hey, are they still having the show?
00:20:48.000I got on the website, and there's where I first initially saw the notice on their website.
00:20:53.000that you posted, and apparently that was posted Thursday or Friday evening, so it caught everyone off guard.
00:20:59.000And yes, they were handing out those flyers at the door, and every vendor had one of those flyers posted near their items for sale to let everyone know.
00:21:09.000And I was also informed that anyone walking around with a firearm from his personal collection, If he was to sell to someone else walking around, that they had to go over to a FFL dealer in order to complete the transaction and have a... So it's basically having this third party do a background check.
00:21:26.000But they didn't, but they cited no law or regulation.
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00:26:19.000through them, and I understand you're saying citizens arrest, but, you know, the average person feds show up with guns and, you know, they've got more courage than most to say, sign a petition and get everybody to fight it there, because the state attorney general is the person and the legislature to come because the state attorney general is the person and the legislature to come down on the APD Very true.
00:26:44.000Yeah, this is, you know, as a soldier during the Vietnam War, I took my constitutional oath to defend the Constitution from internal enemies and foreign enemies, and And now it's being attacked by internal enemies at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in that area.
00:27:05.000And then I took it as a police officer, a constitutional oath to defend the Constitution, protect the people's rights and freedom.
00:27:14.000And so these guys have to know, they have to know they're violating their oath.
00:27:20.000And so I say they ought to be citizens arrested.
00:27:24.000You know, if you have a hundred citizens that surround these guys, they can't shoot them all.
00:27:32.000And they just jump on them and push them to the ground and take their guns away from them and put them in their own handcuffs and hold them until they get somebody there that will enforce the constitutional law.
00:27:48.000That if men in uniforms show up and say, give me your daughter, give me your house, give me your guns, I'm God, and don't cite the law, even if it's unconstitutional, then you defeat that in the courts or by redress of grievance or petition.
00:28:01.000This is just literally the Fed showing up, just like knock and talk.
00:28:05.000Where they started it seven, eight years ago.
00:28:08.000All over the country, they come and...
00:28:11.000Knock on your door and say I'd like to come in and inspect your guns.
00:28:14.000They target middle class areas when the husband's gone.
00:28:23.000Just set the precedent to have men come and they have gun buybacks for the news images of police taking guns back and people getting $50 gift certificates to create the perception that guns are illegal.
00:28:34.000Arresting people that sell their neighbor a gun when it's not even illegal.
00:28:38.000to create the perception that guns are illegal billboards up everywhere saying report illegal guns showing a picture of a revolver when they're not illegal to create the perception that they're illegal and to now have the APD under the orders of the BATFE just show up and you know it's going on statewide that's what we're going to talk about in the next hour with the gun show spokesman and owner I mean this is so incredible we definitely We need lawsuits filed.
00:29:06.000We definitely need to find out who this man was that was arrested and set up for doing this.
00:29:12.000I bet a million dollars that illegal alien they sent in to buy it from the guy as a private sale, that that was a set up to try to scare everybody.
00:29:21.000Look, people are being arrested because they couldn't arrest somebody for selling it to a citizen.
00:30:54.000Thomas Jefferson, Sam Adams said that the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States from keeping their own arms.
00:31:06.000And so they were not ambiguous at all.
00:31:08.000And so these liars and scumbags that are judges and prosecutors and attorney generals and the president of the United States, the phony president of the United States, Barack Obama Nation, are lying to the people when they say that they can take these guns because it was meant for the National Guard only.
00:31:49.000One thing that I find strange about this possibly being a setup with this illegal alien is that at this exact same show, One month ago, I had brought a rifle out of my personal collection that I thought about possibly selling, and I was approached by someone who asked me, hey, how many is that for sale, and how many do you have?
00:32:08.000And then they told me, well, I have a cousin in Mexico that will buy all of them.
00:32:12.000And right then and there, I walked away.
00:32:14.000Because, and you see, this was last month at the exact same show.
00:32:17.000And that's what makes this occurrence that just happened this Saturday even more of a possible setup.
00:33:12.000I want everyone to get this article right now.
00:33:14.000This is breaking here nationwide, and we've got to let gun owners know that we're one second to midnight.
00:33:20.000If the feds are ready to come in without even local laws or federal laws and just say you can't sell guns at gun shows, private sale, when there's no law against it.
00:33:29.000I mean this is an... Jack McClam, why do you think they're coming out so bold and so arrogant right now?
00:33:35.000Well, we're coming under a communist system, folk.
00:33:40.000Obama Nation appointed 32 communist scientists as czars over America so he could go around the Congress and the Senate.
00:33:51.000And the czars are all communist Zionists, and he's a communist himself, and he's got to get these guns away from the American people so they can put us under this military rule system that he's got ready to put us under.
00:34:08.000And communist Chertoff was head of the Homeland Security Council
00:34:16.000He hired the two top communists right under him in the world, mass-murdering communists, Marcus Wolf, head of the East German Stasi, Communist Stasi, and Yugani Primakov, head of the KGB, right under him to set up the Soviet-style totalitarian military rule system, because he didn't know how to do it.
00:34:39.000And they've got it all set up today, ready to implement, but they're worried about people having guns.
00:34:45.000So they want to make the guns illegal, even though it's totally unconstitutional.
00:34:53.000They're using classic military tactics, where they introduce the legislation, outside of legislation, they do it by regulatory fiat, illegally, unconstitutionally.
00:35:08.000This is the executive order, January 11th, creating a council of governors under PDD 51 with Bush.
00:35:15.000You see seamless integration with the different governments, the different executive regimes.
00:35:22.000And it says here that the 10 governors appointed by him will speak for the states during emergencies And in Section A, it says, Homeland Defense, Civil Support, Synchronization and Integration of State and Federal Military Activities.
00:35:36.000In the United States, it goes on to talk about law enforcement integration with the federal government, other matters of mutual interest, including National Guard, Homeland Defense, Civil Support.
00:35:47.000And it goes on to say that it's all under NORTHCOM.
00:35:49.000So, I mean, we have open declarations of a federal dictatorship, and the Russian and European news is freaking out, saying America goes under total tyranny.
00:36:00.000The average American doesn't even know this is going on.
00:36:03.000I mean, they're not moving incrementally anymore, Jack McClam.
00:36:09.000And we've known for years and years and years That an unconstitutional executive order or a presidential directive or executive agreement has no power whatsoever.
00:36:58.000So anything the ATF says or local police or state police says that is unconstitutional is also null and void.
00:37:08.000Alright Jack, I want to, I know we got Pete, Kevin and Mitch holding, we're going to go to them, but I'm going to open the phones up.
00:37:14.000Four police officers, four lawyers, four people that have witnessed this at gun shows, but in fact just police officers at first or they won't be able to get through.
00:38:00.000But on the topic of this violation of our Second Amendment rights, I know somebody here in Michigan that was selling guns at his garage sale.
00:38:09.000Him and some of his neighbors put their guns together and was selling them, and the Sheriff's Department threatened to arrest him because they said he couldn't do that.
00:38:17.000And there's no law in Michigan, I've looked at the law in Michigan, just like Texas, because I've seen so many cases like this in Michigan, that you can't sell your private arms.
00:38:25.000You just can't start buying guns en masse and making it a business, but you can get rid of guns when you need money, and people need money in this economy, and they just show up, color of law, and do this!
00:38:36.000That's exactly what he was doing, and he wasn't selling assault rifles or anything.
00:38:40.000He was selling hunting guns, you know?
00:39:01.000And I'll just tell you that, you know, there's a lot of these people that are calling in and talking to you.
00:39:06.000I've heard him say a lot of good stuff about how, you know, we're being violated, we need to rise up and go against them, but I've never heard anybody mention the law Quo Waranto, and I think that Alex, you should research that.
00:39:19.000It's an old English law, it's called Quo Waranto, and it's under the writ of mandamus, and basically, if any city, say the police come, and they violate your civil rights, Yes, they sure have, and I've been through it repeatedly.
00:39:33.000The city is dissolved, no longer exists. - That's right, and the old times, if a lord, that's under Magna Carta, did something wrong, he would lose his lordship.
00:39:42.000Exactly, I appreciate your call, Pete.
00:39:45.000See, our ancestors have been through this over and over again. - They sure have. - That's why those of us that study history know, Jack, comment on that.
00:39:52.000- Yes, they sure have, and I've been through it repeatedly.
00:39:55.000When I took a constitutional class as a cop in Phoenix and started upholding the Constitution, I was fired repeatedly for upholding the Constitution and telling my fellow officers not to do this and not to do that because it was unconstitutional.
00:40:26.000And so that's been 25 years ago, brother, that I was fired repeatedly for upholding my oath under the Constitution and telling my fellow officers.
00:40:36.000And then you finally got medically retired.
00:40:40.000I was injured in the line of duty in 1986, again, the final time.
00:40:46.000And the doctors knew that the chief of police, Ruben Ortega, was trying to get me killed.
00:40:51.000Because he told all the officers, if Officer McLam calls for a backup, don't go to his aid.
00:40:58.000And they put me down in the war zone of South Phoenix, where almost daily you needed backups.
00:41:05.000And I was injured a number of times, but the last time I arrested a drug smuggler out of Mexico and was seriously injured in my back, shoulder, and neck.
00:41:18.000And so the doctors, the city doctors, said they were going to retire me out because they knew Chief Ruben Ortega was trying to get me killed.
00:41:44.000Yeah, I just wanted to say that really it is vital that every time that they try to push something illegal, we need to contest it through the courts and through... Yeah, they're trying to set a precedent through common law, through common practice.
00:42:02.000And too bad the people... Yeah, too bad the people are not... the children are not taught the Constitution anymore in school.
00:42:13.000Kevin, I'm gonna hold you over so you can make your point, or go ahead and start making it.
00:42:17.000and school system and demeaning our founding fathers so that the kids, if they hear anything good about the founding fathers, they will remember what the teacher told them, that they all raped their slaves.
00:42:29.000Kevin, I'm going to hold you over so you can make your point or go ahead and start making it.
00:42:33.000Yeah, just that we need to immediately initiate lawsuits and do whatever it takes in the legal realm to stop these people, because if you give them ground, they're just going to take more and more and more.
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00:46:09.000We need to get the gun dealers, the gun shows, the gun shops all over the country to file torturous interference, civil rights violations, you name it, suits against the BATF and cities that unlawfully and illegally do this.
00:47:23.000Yeah, I just wanted to say that I think with, you know, American Center for Law and Justice and all kinds of other lawyers out there, a class action lawsuit would be viable against any level of the government and any agency in the government when they're doing stuff that's illegal.
00:47:45.000Under Bush, when they tripled the funding for the VAT-FE and started moving in with regulations instead of laws and just color of law, we knew the storm was coming.
00:47:58.000And we have that tyrannical communist in office right now that are going to use these things.
00:48:06.000Because they've trained for the last 30 years the citizens in elementary school and high school to not look at the Constitution anymore, look at international law.
00:49:05.000LAPD on course to take over Explorer program.
00:49:09.000And then we have the New York Times with scouts trained to fight terrorists and more, and it says they train to take on disgruntled vets who won't turn in their guns.
00:49:34.000I mean, it's absolutely insane, but it's totally tyrannical.
00:49:38.000It's the same thing happened in Germany during the Nazi regime and under Stalin, under the Communist system in Russia, too, in East Germany.
00:49:52.000And by the way, when you say they hired Primakov and Wolf, that was actually in the news.
00:49:57.000They really hired the former head of the KGB and the former head of the Stasi to come set this up, and this is exactly what they've done.
00:50:06.000Yes, and now we have lesbian Janet Napolitano, who's head of the, who's a CFR member, who's the head of the Homeland Insecurity, and she's got the Thank you for listening to GCN.
00:50:20.000rule system ready to go with communist abomination tells her to bring it into power.
00:50:26.000Jack McLam, we really appreciate you joining us and spending time with us.
00:50:32.000And we'll talk to you again soon, my friend.
00:53:12.000Then had some illegal aliens sell it to some private seller who refused to follow it.
00:53:16.000And the BATFE is all over it trying to set you up because it's not illegal to sell it to your neighbor.
00:53:23.000Somehow they claim, though, that if it's an illegal alien, and of course the illegal always tries to tell you they're illegal to sting you, so they're doing anything they can to go after law-abiding citizens.
00:53:37.000I appreciate them having the courage to call in, in this once-free country, to give us their response to this.
00:53:43.000We talked to the brother of a police officer when the BATFE did knock and talk, coming to their door where they show up and say, we want to talk about your guns.
00:53:53.000Let us come in and inspect them and enforce their way in.
00:53:57.000Keith, in Ohio, what's your take on all of this?
00:54:01.000Well, Alex, it's just one more step down that path to trying to take firearms away from the private individuals.
00:54:08.000In Ohio, we had a couple years ago, state sales agents came to the Dayton Gun Show.
00:54:14.000And went around and started issuing tickets to everyone for not having a vendor's license.
00:54:18.000And they got about halfway through the show, and they went to this one guy who was set up there, and they asked him for his ID, and he gave it to them.
00:55:16.000He's even down in Florida sending his undercover people into other states so he can then try to sue your states like he is the king of the country.
00:55:27.000Yeah, what they did is they were coming into the gun shows and then going around and trying to buy off of private sales.
00:55:33.000And then after they'd agree on price and stuff, they would drop a hint that maybe they couldn't pass a background check or do some other stuff.
00:55:41.000And then they were using selective video, not using all the videos, and then trying to shut down the Dayton gun shows.
00:55:48.000Well, what happened is the guy that runs the Dayton gun shows, Came out on his own and he's issued little booklets that he hands out at the gun show, making sure everyone's following the state law.
00:56:06.000And what they did is he's issuing these little booklets to educate sellers.
00:56:09.000on how to recognize a straw buyer or how these things happen, and giving them out saying, look, you've got to just check he's a resident of the state, that they're over the proper age if it's 18 for a rifle or a shotgun or 21 for a handgun.
00:56:23.000You verify their driver's license, they verify yours.
00:56:26.000That makes it legal sale in Ohio without having to go through the next background check.
00:56:32.000But again, under common law, a citizen can sell to their neighbor.
00:56:36.000It's not their fault if it turns out the neighbor was a bad guy.
00:56:39.000You know, the answer is more guns, less crime.
00:56:41.000I want to come back to you, Keith, and let you finish from Ohio.
00:56:44.000A police officer, then Mark in Florida, police officer.
00:56:46.000And we need more police officers to speak out so you're not ordered to engage in tyranny.
00:56:51.000And it's the citizen's job to stop this.
00:56:54.000The Austin Police Department is outrageous.
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00:59:57.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:00:07.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:00:12.000For those that just joined us, this is how tyranny works.
01:00:18.000In the past, they would have cities and counties pass unconstitutional local ordinances against private sale of guns at Flea markets, gun shows, garage sales to your neighbors, to your grandson.
01:00:35.000Giving a gun under the law they tried to pass in Texas to your grandson is a crime.
01:00:44.000So the BATFE, the feds, are running around all over the country just intimidating, stinging, harassing, trying to set up people at gun shows.
01:01:09.000And Keith, as a police officer in Ohio who's seen this go on, but who have been successful against defeating it, I mean, what is your take on just how much trouble the APD and the BATFE should get in trouble for, or what laws you believe this violates, or regulations?
01:01:26.000And separately, what would you do if you were an Austin cop ordered to do unconstitutional things?
01:01:34.000If you do something unconstitutional, you have a process, and it's usually in most law enforcement agencies, it's written right into their standards and procedures, you do not have to follow a lawful order.
01:01:45.000If it's unlawful, it is unlawful and you do not follow it.
01:01:49.000If you get a write-up for it, you get a write-up for it, but you're going to end up winning that because it goes against your policies and goes against the laws of the state of wherever you're working.
01:01:59.000And any administrator who tries to force you to do an unlawful act by coercion is also subjecting himself to a USC 1983 lawsuit.
01:02:52.000The small county sheriffs are pro-gun and pro-Second Amendment.
01:02:56.000The big city ones are pretty much influenced by the large donors from those, say, left-wing radical organizations that don't want guns.
01:03:07.000They have a bigger crime violence in their cities, and they think that that's just due to the fact that guns are readily accessible, even though the Bureau of Justice statistics show that less than 1% of U.S.
01:03:21.000Well, people don't rob heavily armed rural areas or cities where people are heavily armed.
01:03:28.000The crime statistics are voluminous that the cesspits of crime are Chicago, New York, and L.A., every major city that has massive victim disarmament legislation.
01:03:40.000And I'm going to go to another police officer, but Keith, in closing, in 1775, the Revolutionary War started Over gun confiscation, and the resistance was led by the local constables, by the local police and sheriffs.
01:03:58.000And I believe that's going to happen again.
01:04:00.000That's why Obama is creating a Council of Governors, so he can rubber stamp and take over the states, but still claim that the states some have authority, but he appoints the governors.
01:04:10.000That's why they've set up Homeland Security.
01:05:59.000I mean, my mother, growing up in Austin, when somebody got out of the prison or the jail or the lunatic asylum, and she lived near that, the sheriff would just drive around and knock on doors and say, come help me.
01:06:20.000It's sometimes used in the rural areas where somebody's trying to apprehend a criminal and somebody, usually just a good citizen, will jump out and try to assist that officer.
01:06:29.000But the statutes are still on the book for that to happen.
01:06:51.000I mean, it's one thing if a law is unconstitutional, but just to show up with no law and say, we're shutting down your private sales at the gun show?
01:06:59.000Let's go to Mark in Florida, then Curt Nemo.
01:07:01.000Mark in Florida, another police officer.
01:07:09.000Totally unconstitutional and people should put up a red flag and not go along with it.
01:07:17.000What do you think went through the minds of the Austin police when they were ordered to go help the feds do this?
01:07:23.000You know I think it's like you were talking about the knock and talks earlier and you know people just give in.
01:07:29.000Most of the time they'll just let officers come in their house and search or do whatever and it's the same thing with traffic stops.
01:07:37.000Police officers make traffic stops every day for a traffic violation, and then they say, you might have fucked your car, and 95% of them won't stand up and say no.
01:07:48.000And they'll know that they have stuff in their car that's contraband, but they won't do it.
01:07:54.000And people just need to not be intimidated, and they need to stand up.
01:07:59.000And if we all stand together, they can't put everybody in jail.
01:08:05.000It's just disgusting what's happening in this country overall.
01:08:34.000And so all these domesticated cowards that are scared of guns and the Second Amendment, they need to know that tyranny isn't going to stop just with their guns.
01:09:34.000I'm trying to get people woken up to it.
01:09:36.000I'm trying to get people on the same page because we need to stand together.
01:09:40.000That's the only way that we're going to win this battle.
01:09:43.000And Mark, I agree with you because I told MSNBC yesterday when they came to interview me for Chris Matthews for a documentary he's making for MSNBC, I explained to the lady, I said, this has all been scripted and we have the Rand Corporation and all their own admissions.
01:10:23.000We need to not have this go to violence, but the establishment wants it.
01:10:29.000They are pushing because they're going to be off in their ivory towers in Europe and in New York with their bodyguards, and they're going to have you, Mark, with all these officers under you, sounds like you're an officer in your department, marching out to engage in tyranny as they bring in unlimited illegal aliens and criminals, as the society implodes, marching out to engage in tyranny as they bring in unlimited illegal aliens and criminals, as the society implodes, as crime rates explode, as the society falls apart, It's not just police that we see becoming more and more corrupt.
01:10:57.000I mean we are a sick society and we need good leadership like yours and others to take the risk Of sticking your head up to the tyranny, because the risk is greater to go along with it.
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01:11:12.000We've got to get out of the comfort zone now.
01:11:15.000We have got to... I mean, I've got chills right now, folks.
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01:16:41.000And then to make it look legal, they had some illegal alien, we're confirming this happened, people witnessed this arrest, go in and some old guy was trying to sell a shotgun.
01:16:50.000He sold it to the illegal, which wasn't illegal because it's a private sale.
01:16:55.000It's not his job to know that under the law.
01:17:04.000In these staged events, go into Curt Nemo.
01:17:06.000Curt, we need to really get on this and go over what Jack McClam pointed out, go over the points I made, the police officers that called in, how they've tried to use, I remember seeing that in the news in several states, Ohio, Pennsylvania, other places, where they go in and try to ban private sales through local business licenses, but they can't ban garage sales, they can't ban All of these different events.
01:17:32.000Though the Feds put a ruling out this year.
01:17:50.000When they just announce, I've got a gun, I've got a uniform, I'm your God.
01:17:56.000Yeah, you know Alex, even under the Federal Firearms Ownership Protection Act of 1986, people aren't required to do background checks on people they sell guns to.
01:18:06.000So they're even violating their own laws against the Second Amendment.
01:18:23.000You know, like I told you prior to coming on, this is a totally egregious violation of the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.
01:18:29.000And I think legally, if people are going to stop this kind of nonsense, that's what they're going to have to go to is, you know, go to the Supreme Court and argue that this is a violation of the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.
01:18:42.000Well, we need to hit them on all fronts.
01:18:43.000We need to stop this in Austin right now, Kurt.
01:18:48.000We need to just churn out more stories, more of the angles, and point out to people, you've done a great job with this one article, that this is completely illegal.
01:18:57.000I mean, they can't just make up whatever they want.
01:19:01.000But, you know, what they're trying to do in, you know, what's her name, Carolyn McCarthy, the notorious gun grabber, she introduced the Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009.
01:19:44.000Obama keeps saying, I don't want your guns, even though he writes all these letters, introduced laws as a state senator, even though all his czars are calling for complete banning, even though they're harassing everybody.
01:19:55.000They're coming after our guns while denying they're doing it.
01:20:01.000Well, the Democrats are really behind these laws.
01:20:03.000I mean, the Loophole Closing Act has 35 co-sponsors, mostly Democrats.
01:20:10.000And the Lautenberg Senate bill has 15 co-sponsors, all of them Democrats.
01:20:14.000So this is basically coming out of the Obama administration, as you pointed out.
01:20:20.000But again, he uses that military tactic of going with the bills, going with the regulations, going with the color of law, going with the tyranny, whilst getting on the news going, these crazy conspiracy theorists, they think that we want their guns!
01:20:35.000Well, it doesn't help that there's like 17 states that are, you know, regulating gun shows as well.
01:20:43.000California, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Oregon, New York, Illinois, and Colorado.
01:20:47.000And four states, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania require background checks at gun shows on handguns.
01:20:54.000So, states are working with the feds as well to implement this.
01:20:58.000Well, we know they're coming after our guns, but the issue is, this is a new development to just have the feds show up and say, we don't need laws anymore.
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01:24:56.000Ladies and gentlemen, fall of the republic, the presidency of Barack H. Obama It covers the banking heist, the environmental takeover with the carbon tax, the anti-gun activity being done extrajudicially by Fiat, color of law.
01:25:35.000Showing you the shadow national security state that's been set up, who have openly stated in the secret homeland security documents that we got released last year, stating that all gun owners, conservatives, libertarians, returning veterans, are the number one threat to the government.
01:26:55.000Darwin Bedecker is the operator of it.
01:27:00.000And, reading the notice, it says, public notice, selling of firearms at the direction of the Austin Police Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, at the direction.
01:27:11.000No law, not even a city ordinance, and that would have been overturned by the state.
01:27:14.000The city laws have to be in line with the state law.
01:27:17.000At the direction of the Austin Police Department, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, anyone selling a firearm at this show location will be asked, so it's color of law, they're asking, to comply with the following.
01:27:30.000Any person selling a personal firearm must, that's the felony, that's the color of law, the torturous interference, the racketeering, the civil rights violation, masquerading under uniform and with guns, under false authority, attacking commerce and civil rights.
01:27:49.000Any person selling a personal firearm must, you're being commanded now by uniform, Claiming the power of the state, illegitimately, must go through a licensed FFL dealer in the show to transfer the firearm to the new owner.
01:28:04.000Two, selling of firearms in the parking lot will not be permitted.
01:28:18.000And as far as I know, watching this closely, this is the first time in the country this has been done in my town of Austin, Texas, talking to Mr. Bedecker.
01:29:07.000Okay, you heard the things I just broke down.
01:29:09.000I want to go over that later with you, but now, blow by blow, tell us what really happened, what they told you, what unfolded.
01:29:16.000Okay, the exact story is Thursday at 2 o'clock we had a meeting in Austin, Texas with the Austin Police Department, the ATF, and the people from the North Market Event Center, and HEB.
01:29:35.000Now the reason HEB is important is they're actually the main leaseholder under Walmart.
01:29:40.000Walmart owns that building that everybody knows as the Crockett Center.
01:29:45.000We're now the North Austin Event Center.
01:29:50.000So what happened was they made these recommendations to me and basically because the gun show that used to be there before us was a lot larger, a lot bigger, they said that the APD and ATF had pending cases Uh, of people selling firearms in the gun shows without a license, actually setting up.
01:30:20.000Basically, we're going to end up setting you up.
01:30:22.000We're going to shut your show down if you don't let us, through color of law, intimidate people and go ahead and basically kill your show to begin with, running their fake stings in there with the illegal aliens they use.
01:30:36.000And basically what happened in this meeting when we first sat down, The detectives that are in this meeting did not even realize that we were a different gun show promoter.
01:30:46.000They thought that there was no difference and only after...
01:30:50.000Uh, only after we told them that we're not even the same gun show that you had these, these cases against, did she realize that... This is... I'm gonna stop you.
01:31:52.000Well, I showed up to the building that they specified it was.
01:31:57.000I don't remember the exact address of it, but it was one of their facilities that also PD uses for, I guess, interviews and stuff like that.
01:32:03.000And, well, they invited HEB to the meeting, and basically what it was was they scared HEB into basically telling me I had to follow these recommendations or I wouldn't have a show.
01:32:16.000And what, I'm going to stop, that's racketeering right there, organized crime, organized fraud, extortion.
01:32:22.000They get the leaseholder, you've already contracted, they twist arms right there to violate the Second Amendment and commerce and free market, they get H-E-B under threat, you under criminal threat, all these threats to agree to this, and you have the courage to come out and expose them.
01:32:44.000So, basically, we had about a two-hour meeting, back and forth, back and forth, and I asked them specifically, why is this happening in Austin and nowhere else?
01:32:54.000And they just backpedaled and said, well, because we're here.
01:32:58.000Meaning that the two detectives and the other ATF agent.
01:33:05.000And I asked them then, I was like, well, you realize I'm basically the smallest promoter on the totem pole.
01:33:13.000I don't find it coincidence that, you know, you found a promoter that you could actually, you know, pressure into doing this.
01:33:21.000Because, I mean, they told me Thursday I only had two choices.
01:33:24.000You know, it was either cancel the show on Friday when vendors have already driven, you know, long distances to set up.
01:34:08.000It's just that, you know, I didn't, they told me Thursday that, you know, this had to be done and by Friday, you know, vendors are starting to show up and I'm trying to explain to them, you know, what happened.
01:34:34.000This is how the mafia operated in New York and Chicago?
01:34:38.000Well, from the Austin Police Department, it was a Sergeant Fleming that was in the meeting, a Detective Long, a Detective Russell, and a Detective Vineyard, and from the ATF, it was a Daniel Jones.
01:34:52.000Those were the law people that were inside the meeting.
01:34:55.000And they took you in there and squeezed you to basically become their operative when you're a law-abiding citizen?
01:35:03.000Yeah, well basically, you know, they sat there and they read all this long sheet of 9-1-1 calls, pending cases, all this stuff that they had dug up over the four, you know, however many years that they were doing it against the other gun shows.
01:36:02.000Well, the worst part of it all was people coming in through the door that I handed these flyers to and that they willingly signed a petition for.
01:36:10.000The people that didn't take the time to actually hear what was going on because they were so frustrated basically called me every name in the book.
01:36:18.000I had one older gentleman Oh sir, that's your, hold on, that's one of your major.
01:36:23.000You watch, your next show, compared to previous shows, will be down by 50% unless we get the word out.
01:36:31.000They have engaged in an act of COINTELPRO, write that word down, it's illegal, they got caught in the 70s doing it, to destroy you.
01:36:39.000They infiltrated, they knew that this would destroy your operation, and they have, this is, this is assault, this is a robbery, this is grand larceny, sir.
01:36:51.000I feel the same way, and the sad thing was that they sat there and told me, well, if you do this, you'll get more licensed, you know, FFL, Federal Firearms Licensed dealers in there.
01:37:01.000Well, actually, I had two of my largest FFL dealers actually cancel the day before the show when I told them about it.
01:37:10.000They don't want to be in a major sting-off.
01:37:14.000Did they tell you Or if you would have gone along with them, I wish I had known about this and I told you to go along with it enough to really get into their criminal operation.
01:37:20.000Because we're infiltrating these criminals right now as the organic citizenry.
01:38:29.000So, I'm saying what the police did to him was illegal, threatening him and his business and your business if he didn't do that.
01:38:36.000What I'm saying is the police, so they used them to do this?
01:38:40.000Yeah, because I know where my morality meter stands and if they would have looked me straight in the face and said, you need to follow these recommendations, they know what I would have told them.
01:38:51.000But basically by them inviting HDB to the meeting, They knew that they could intimidate him, and by him telling me I had to follow his recommendations, or they were going to close the door, then, I mean, I would have had to cancel the show because... Now, did any of the police, or did the federal regulator, the federal thug, did they, did they ever say, you've got to do this?
01:39:55.000Yeah, they don't want a paper trail, because, boy, let me tell you, this is elitist.
01:39:58.000Look, they're in the jury in the land, won't burn these guys, because they're, you know, just like when the mafia gets caught with different layers to protect themselves, that only burns them worse.
01:40:10.000And like I said, I received, you know, I had a gentleman that was 75 years old come up to me in the show Saturday morning and says, I hear you're the promoter of this show.
01:41:44.000I don't want to say anything that's not true, but I did witness them escorting One of my vendors out that had sold a gun to somebody and then he was outside for, I don't know, probably an hour and a half and then they released him.
01:42:40.000The ATF agent, Daniel, basically, he was the one that proposed the recommendations that we followed, but as far as the rest of the meeting, he didn't say a lot.
01:42:52.000Yeah, but he proposed the regulations.
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01:44:12.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
01:44:19.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
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01:46:50.000When you put your kids in public school, they're learning to hate the Second Amendment.
01:46:54.000Sir, you fought back against this, so did the police or anybody, or it sounded like they knew what they were doing was really illegal, so they were being careful, but not careful enough, because of what we have here, and the fake arrest.
01:47:07.000Did they start getting upset by your petition to the Attorney General?
01:47:45.000You know, we're the only show that allows you to come back Sunday with your Saturday's emissions.
01:47:50.000So we try to do things differently to help people, you know, out.
01:47:53.000And I basically had to go $2 down on emissions to even get people to come in once they saw, you know, 65 of my tables were missing because of cancellations.
01:48:04.000So, I mean, I didn't know what else to do.
01:48:06.000That's where you can really get them, is the fact that they shut down your business and financially hurt you, and then emotionally hurt you, having people come up and call you a traitor.
01:48:16.000And then they didn't trust you to probably sign your petition, probably thinking the government wanted their names, because they've tried to get gun shows to get Social Security numbers in other areas of the country.
01:48:36.000I walked back to the concession stand, which is at the back of the show.
01:48:39.000Anybody that's been in that building know that it's in the back of the show.
01:48:42.000And the two detectives that were actually in the meeting were sitting down in civilian clothes at one of the tables, I guess, just watching and surveying everything.
01:48:50.000And I walked back to them, and where there used to be tables in the second half of the building, where you walk directly to the concession stand, there were no more tables.
01:49:00.000So you actually had to walk past a bare place, a building that was probably 50 feet wide where there were no tables anymore because of the cancellations.
01:49:08.000And I walked back to him and I said, take a look around.
01:49:11.000I go, I hope this is what y'all were looking for.
01:49:13.000And she kind of made a half grin and was like, well, you know, we don't want to shut you down, but we just want everybody that, you know, everybody that can't buy guns, you know, has to go through a background check.
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01:52:14.000All right, the phones are wide open for police officers or for lawyers or for witnesses of the crime against freedom, the right to contract, the right to have sales, the right to business, the right of the Second Amendment.
01:52:29.000You have the Austin Police under the command of the BATFE, federally, colluding This man contracted with the event center.
01:52:39.000They contract with H-E-B, who contracts with Walmart, that owns this old Walmart building.
01:52:47.000They've had a gun show there for more than 14 years.
01:52:49.000I mean, I've been going there since college, actually.
01:53:14.000They say, look, we got you on all this.
01:53:17.000You know, we might talk about dropping some of this if you do this.
01:53:21.000Go over what they said in the meeting.
01:53:23.000And you said they were mainly focused on the H-E-B leaseholder, intimidating him to stop you and to shut down your business.
01:53:33.000And then the cops are laughing and think it's funny when they're outside the law.
01:53:37.000There's no law you have to do this and the police are now secret commissars, secret police, running around and then forcing you to put up notices saying you must do this when there's no law.
01:53:52.000I mean, this is the very definition of extortion, of racketeering.
01:53:58.0001-800- 1-800-259-9231 for lawyers, constitutional scholars, police officers, anyone who is upset about this.
01:54:13.000You know, I'm sitting here ranting and raving, talking to Darwin here on the line, whose family owns and runs this gun show, the Texas Gun Show.
01:54:22.000And, you know, thank God you can operate in other cities.
01:54:25.000I mean, they're trying to put you out of business.
01:54:29.000The only other show that I have is the one in Live Oak.
01:54:33.000Like I said before, when it comes to gun shows, I'm the bottom of the total bowl because we are just all family that runs this show.
01:54:40.000So they ran the old gun show that had been here for more than a decade out, and now they're trying to run you out.
01:54:46.000Well yeah, and by doing what they did this past weekend, I can't survive.
01:54:52.000Under that, because I mean, I'll just cancel the shows.
01:54:55.000I'm not gonna keep on trying to put on gun shows.
01:55:07.000We're supposed to be there the third weekend of each month because we filled in the spot that the other gun show left when they left the building.
01:56:28.000Like I said, I've seen it coming and then I've had that gut feeling that it was coming and basically they proved my point with this meeting and this past weekend that my personal feeling is that they're just trying to get a foothold And if they can get one show to do it, then they probably feel they can get all shows to do this.
01:56:47.000Well, I'm going up against him, and boy, let me tell you, the BATF has even said threatening things to me at this very gun show you're talking about.
01:56:55.000They are an absolutely wicked bunch of un-American trash.
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02:00:10.000I want you to picture in your mind America, with secret police under federal control, getting the leaseholder together, calling the gun show operator in, and saying, hey, we got some cases against your gun show, we've set you up.
02:00:27.000Hey, I'm not the same guy, you ran him out of Austin.
02:00:58.000We need to stand up as a country to these people.
02:01:02.000And then, if they terminate your lease, Terminate your agreement.
02:01:08.000You've got all sorts of other lawsuits against the officers, all of them, for racketeering, official oppression, torturous interference, interstate commerce, because the feds are involved.
02:01:17.000I mean, they are committing so many crimes on the face of it.
02:01:24.000A bunch of police officers calling in, Keith in Indiana, and a bunch of others we're going to go to here in a moment for our guest, but we need to rally behind the Texas Gun Show.
02:01:35.000They picked a little target, they picked a Soviet town like Austin.
02:01:39.000Good people in Austin, but run by a bunch of really bad people.
02:01:42.000They're always stealing private property, you name it.
02:01:45.000Because if they're able to do this under the dark of night, it's going to be a precedent.
02:01:53.000They're doing this all over the country.
02:01:54.000We've got to set a precedent nationwide so people know how to stand up against them.
02:01:59.000We've been fighting them for 20 years trying to shut down the gun shows.
02:02:03.000And once they've shut that down, I've read the state laws they try to pass and the ones they have, where you can't even sell your neighbor a gun, can't sell some guns you want to make some money at a garage sale.
02:02:35.000TexasGunShows.net and people need to show up to this.
02:02:39.000Mark their calendars and be there and support what you're doing and you need to not be intimidated by them.
02:02:46.000I can be there with cameras and cram them right in their faces.
02:02:49.000I'm coming down there and you look into who I am sir.
02:02:53.000I mean I don't claim to be the You know, a tough guy or anything, but I'm not a wimp, and I'm a constitutionalist, and I'm committed to this republic and defeating these people, and I'm standing beside you.
02:03:02.000I'm going to get Congressman Ron Paul on this, Gun Owners of America Larry Pratt, Jews and Preservation of Firearms Ownership, the Texas Rifle Association, we're calling them all right now, sir.
02:03:13.000We're going to rally the troops to defeat these people politically.
02:03:18.000Well, that's music to my ears compared to what I've been hearing over the last 48 hours.
02:03:25.000Now, I want to go to calls with you, but I want to go back here to be very careful about this meeting.
02:03:31.000Specifically, they tell you, we'd like you to come down and tell us the whole story, how they did the intimidation, how the BATF told you how to write this, how it destroyed your show.
02:03:43.000I was invited to a facility at Austin PD.
02:03:49.000I guess to do interviews and stuff like that.
02:03:50.000I had a meeting with Austin PD, the ATF was there, and people from North Austin Event Center and HEP.
02:04:01.000And it was about a two hour long meeting that took place on Thursday, the day before my vendors were supposed to set up.
02:04:08.000And basically it was a long meeting over.
02:04:11.000They started off the meeting with, you know, we don't want to have to shut you down, but we will.
02:04:16.000It was straight intimidation from the get-go, and they made a long list of convictions or cases that they had against the former gun show, and they read off all these complaints and everything else, 911 calls, everything to this location, and they didn't even know in the beginning of the meeting that we were a different show promoter.
02:04:40.000And that was over a decade of the other show, one of the best records.
02:04:43.000People driving by on the highway were always calling cops, seeing people with guns, because the public's been trained guns are illegal.
02:04:50.000Nobody can put them in their pickup window.
02:04:53.000People can't walk out of their house and get in their car with them, because there's a large portion of the population that is completely ignorant.
02:05:36.000After that, they you know, said what they could do.
02:05:40.000They didn't want to have to do, but they said they could, you know, make it to where the building couldn't be used for anything because of the activities that happened in the past.
02:05:54.000Outside of a court, outside of law, threatening to shut the building down for everything else, the knitting clubs, the swap meets they have there.
02:06:02.000Threatening to just end the building, period.
02:06:07.000Threatening his entire business and his job as the leaseholder, H-E-B, the grocery store chain with Walmart, if he didn't then come down on you.
02:06:17.000And what was his name, the poor guy being grilled by these people?
02:07:39.000He was just like, he just told me, you know, I know that didn't go the way you wanted it to.
02:07:44.000You know, when I, when they called this meeting, I had, I said I would go, but they didn't tell me what we were going to talk about.
02:07:50.000I didn't know what was about to happen.
02:07:52.000So basically after they locked the doors and started the meeting, that's when they told me that, you know, they got to the point where if I didn't follow these recommendations, I wasn't going to have a show.
02:08:01.000So after I already committed all my resources that I could towards advertising and everything else, I mean it was either lose all that money and cancel it or try to recoup something and let the public know what was going on so I chose to let the public know.
02:08:16.000Well you did the right thing and we're going to stand beside you in this.
02:08:21.000Now how did the BATFE guy tell you to write this?
02:08:25.000He didn't tell me to write it word for word.
02:08:30.000What he said was you might have Oh, it's even worse!
02:08:32.000up there to notify the public what's going on.
02:08:35.000Because I told him, the reason I said that is because I told him, well, what's going to happen is everybody that comes in the show is going to think it's me.
02:08:42.000You know, it's going to think it's a Texas gun show thing and think that I'm, you know, flying in the face of freedom when it's not me at all.
02:08:53.000So basically then he said, well, you could write something saying that, or I told him, well, then what I'm going to do is I'm going to write something saying, you know, in accordance and in direction with Austin PD and ATF.
02:09:05.000This is, this is why, you know, this is happening this weekend.
02:09:08.000So that's the flyer that you're reading.
02:09:29.000It was under the threat of pressure of me, you know, losing everything that I invested and losing my business there, that I complied with your recommendations for that weekend.
02:09:38.000Well, this is an agency and police completely out of control.
02:09:41.000Let's talk to Kenneth in Indiana, a police officer.
02:09:47.000Yeah, I just want to thank you for, you know, acting on being obedient to your convictions and getting this information out and more power to your guests there as far as getting this lawsuit going.
02:10:01.000Hopefully we can sue the pants off of them and get that done.
02:10:05.000I just wanted to add, just encourage, you know, listeners and, you know, it doesn't matter if you own firearms, if you're interested, if you're not interested, if the last thing that you wanted to see But everyone needs to be involved with what's going on and stand up and fight because you may, next month, want to buy a firearm to protect you and your family.
02:10:29.000And, you know, being a police officer, knowing what's going on, I lived in a county that they had two deputies on graveyard shift and they had a major State route going through.
02:10:42.000If you have a serious accident, they're going to be tied up.
02:10:45.000And if you have a burglary, a burglar breaking into your home at that time, just think about what the response time is.
02:10:52.000Are you going to be able to protect you, your family, your property, your belongings?
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02:15:54.000No one knows what it's like to be the Batman.
02:17:27.000We all know what they want in the end.
02:17:29.000They're going to have a list and they're going to come and take them when they grant the time that, you know, they want to do that.
02:17:36.000And they'll start with 50 cows first to make it sound reasonable.
02:17:41.000It's just like you've said before, the frog in the pot that they just slowly start heating up.
02:17:47.000And we don't notice that it's getting hot, but, you know, it's starting to boil and we need to do something.
02:17:52.000Just going back to what I was saying again, yes, the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, I mean, it is for personal protection of ourselves, our family, but again, tyranny.
02:18:04.000It is that last line of defense to protect ourselves, to protect our freedoms, to protect our country, to protect our Constitution.
02:18:13.000Just to follow up on the story I was saying before, protecting yourself I'm a law enforcement officer and I love the guys and gals I work with.
02:18:22.000The profession is great, but we're there to supplement the citizens.
02:18:28.000And you're there to respond, you're there to enforce the law after a crime has been committed under federal and state statute.
02:18:34.000You have no liability to protect us because you can't.
02:19:11.000How many phone calls have we heard where the dispatch system's having problems or the dispatcher doesn't take them seriously and they get killed?
02:19:18.000The average time's what, 12 minutes for a 911 call?
02:20:14.000And like I said, I'll stand with you through it all and try to, you know, hopefully they'll get back to where, you know, shows used to be where you actually enjoyed going to them, taking the family, enjoying the collection side of it, trying to find that one piece that you've been missing trying to find that one piece that you've been missing from your collection.
02:20:35.000Listen, I don't go to a lot of them anymore because I know it's crawling with feds and special local police.
02:20:42.000I like buying those little bird bomb things.
02:20:45.000Those are fun to shoot out in the country.
02:20:46.000You know, the things that run off birds, but not for birds, just to shoot them or to shoot them in the lake and watch them, you know, make a red flash at night.
02:20:53.000I mean, it's fun to go to the gun show and, you know, buy camping gear or ammo.
02:20:58.000But I mean, now it's just feds everywhere.
02:22:46.000Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at Infowars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
02:23:04.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
02:23:07.000As we're finishing off this agenda, we're pulling the rug from underneath We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
02:23:18.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
02:23:24.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
02:26:14.000Okay, going back to Darwin Bedecker, who runs the Texas Gun Show, texasgunshow.net.
02:26:21.000You said you're getting calls during the breaks from vendors and people that are saying they're going to come out and support you.
02:26:28.000Finish up that story, and then I interrupted you earlier when you tried to bring up people bringing up my name at the front gate when they were coming in, seeing the notice.
02:26:37.000Actually, while we were on this interview, our business phone rang, and my mother is actually the person that takes reservations.
02:26:45.000She said that a vendor called and requested three tables at our next Austin show, and he's never done one of our shows.
02:26:53.000But what made me feel good was he said that he wished his son would have turned out like me, which actually made me feel good for all those people that have been sending all the hate email thinking it was, you know, thinking it was My doing, that it actually feels good to actually get the story out.
02:27:09.000Well, look, we've shot down politically a bunch of the czars that Obama tried to appoint.
02:27:14.000Others he appointed are even worse, openly saying ban free speech, second amendment.
02:27:19.000If we use the gun shows as political centers of the Declaration of Independence and Liberty, and got people organized to defend local gun rights on a city and county basis, That's why they hate it.
02:27:31.000They hate our gun culture, our 1776 liberty culture coming together.
02:27:37.000And so if all the vendors will start, and I guarantee a lot of them are listening right now all over Texas and the country, if people from even other states will come to your event, Coming up.
02:27:49.000And even if they try some nasty thing and shut it down, we'll meet in the parking lot and have a rally.
02:27:54.000And come there and pass the hat for your legal lawsuit.
02:27:58.000And if everybody will get a bunch of tables, people that sell books, videos, people that sell beanie babies.
02:28:04.000I mean, you know, I mean, it's not just guns that are sold.
02:28:12.000They need to cram every table you've got and fill it up To let them know that they're not going to shut you down and that you're not going down without a fight.
02:28:21.000I mean, they don't have a leg to stand on anyways.
02:28:24.000And I'm going to be there next Saturday, the three Saturdays from now, I'm going to be there with you next month.
02:28:30.000Give us the dates next month that it's going to be at in February.
02:29:48.000And it says, Austin Chronicle, which is a questionable source, but no, I mean, not on issues like this.
02:29:55.000A Travis County Grand Jury indicted December 27th, 14-year veteran of the APD, Detective Andrew Purkell, on one count of attempted sexual assault, a third-degree felony, one count of public lewdness, a Class A misdemeanor, and one count of indecent exposure, a Class B misdemeanor, in connection with the September 15th off-duty incident, according to a statement released by the APD.
02:30:16.000Reportedly, the alleged offense took place at a hair removal business, American Laser Center, and involved an encounter between Purkell and an as-yet-unnamed Laser Center employee.
02:30:28.000Purkell's attorney, Chris Gunter, told the statesman that the charges were not true, that everything that transpired between the two people was consensual, and that he and his client are anxious for a trial.
02:30:42.000So, we need to look and see how that ended up.
02:30:45.000But I wonder if they're trying to use that against him as the manager of the event center.
02:30:48.000Maybe it's another Andrew Purkell who was an APD person.
02:31:03.000The other thing that I was going to mention before that I really appreciate everybody coming in and saying that Well, I appreciate that.
02:31:11.000for this and luckily y'all contacted me so I didn't have to even try to find out where y'all were located but I mean it was hundreds and hundreds of people that threw out your name and said that this is the man that you need to get informed so I appreciate somebody in the position to support our rights actually standing up and saying they're willing to do that Well I appreciate that I guess it was 2000 and
02:31:41.000And they were going to pass the end of the gun show loophole.
02:32:09.000They, you know, to say, yeah, we're dangerous, you know, thugs, basically, and you need to ban guns and ban the gun show and, and, you know, we buy them at the gun show.
02:32:21.000And so Jews of Preservation Firearms ownership local member, Ran in and said, you've got a video camera, get out here.
02:32:30.000And like in a movie, this Smith guy, who's with the Violence Policy Center and Handgun Control Incorporated, was going, 100, 200, 300, and that video was all over the web, crashed our servers, and I've tried to find our original tapes.
02:33:03.000But the NRA, and it would have banned grandpas, given their grandsons at 22.
02:33:07.000No private gifts, no transfers of firearms.
02:33:10.000And when I really found out that the, and then later I saw the documents, that the NRA is actually an anti-gun group, and that Charlton Heston, who I was a fan of and interviewed, was hired in 68 to do TV ads saying we need the 68 Gun Control Act.
02:33:27.000And he later said that was wrong to do, but the point is that their board is run If they're going to get our guns, they can't let us have a group with 10 million members or whatever.
02:35:09.000Yeah, I have a couple quick comments and a big question for you.
02:35:13.000First of all, one of my local gun dealers here in Tennessee was at that show.
02:35:18.000I can't get a hold of him today because of the holidays, so I will get a hold of him first thing in the morning and try to have him contact you.
02:35:25.000Second of all, I think we have a duty to debrief and re-educate the citizens of the United States because we're being micromanaged so much that it's going to start with guns, CPS, Bows, knives, etc.
02:35:38.000Oh, they've announced all U.S. citizens will have three yearly CPS visits, all Head Start people to put their kids in it, get three CPS visits, guilty until proven innocent.
02:35:48.000I mean, it is an iron curtain of tyranny.
02:35:50.000Well, I had a run-in with CPS here about a month ago, and once I went into their office and started tape recording the conversation, things changed.
02:35:56.000And then the fact that they wanted to see my children or whatnot, and I started quoting constitutional rights.
02:36:02.000You know, you can't, you know, it's a violation of my First Amendment, Fourth Amendment, Fifth Amendment.
02:36:16.000Now, my main question is, is how do we rally around our sheriff to get him behind us?
02:36:21.000Because the sheriff... You educate them, and if they're not a constitutionalist and they're a lapdog of the feds, you run somebody for sheriff and you take your county over and kick the feds out.
02:36:30.000All right, and my final comment would be this, that as the United States, we are the last beacon of hope for democracy in this world that we live in.
02:36:39.000And a lot of countries are actually looking at us right now with everything that's going on.
02:36:43.000And if we lose our fight for our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and our God-given rights, then basically the entire world is going to suffer for this.
02:36:55.000All over the world, China, Africa, all these different countries and continents and regions are saying torture's okay, secret arrest is okay, because they say, hey, America does it.
02:37:05.000We've now become a beacon of wickedness.
02:37:07.000And it's because the people have sat on their big, fat behinds, and that needs to stop, folks.
02:37:22.000I remember what it was like to be that age and be confronted with several guys with shiny badges and guns.
02:37:31.000But a little education will empower you.
02:37:35.000First off, you just need to understand that these guys, no matter how many there are, how many badges they have, There are employees, and you have to think of them as such.
02:37:45.000Well, let me just interrupt, Mike, as I always do.
02:37:47.000I would have said, I would have punted.
02:37:50.000I would have said, I gotta get my constitutional lawyer on this.
02:37:53.000This is torturous interference to the HEB guy.
02:38:16.000Now, the first thing that should have come out of your mouth was, what is your statutory authority for telling me I have to do this, or telling me I can't do thus and such?
02:38:28.000Most of these guys operate under color of law, and they won't be able to tell you that when they can't cite any law.
02:38:37.000You tell them, then please leave my property, leave this building, whatever, or I will call and have you arrested for trespassing.
02:39:02.000Well, you need to have security there to keep their butts out of there and, and, and, and, uh, you know, our higher on off duty cop for the front door, you need to throw their butts out.
02:39:45.000And for studying just statutory law and civil law, you can't get any better than Mike Brown, a group called Erwin Rommel School of Law, which is at rommellaw.com.
02:40:31.000But I don't think the average cop or fed realizes that when the dam breaks, which they're sitting there trying to do, what's going to happen?
02:43:09.000We're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
02:43:12.000I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
02:43:18.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
02:43:24.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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02:47:45.000I mean, I didn't know all the legal jargon.
02:47:46.000and it was kind of put together last minute.
02:47:48.000It was basically just saying a petition, you know, sign a petition.
02:47:51.000You need to get people to sign up for a class action lawsuit next month.
02:47:58.000That way they can't go after individuals.
02:48:01.000We need to have everybody there who was violated this month there to sign up to be interested in a class action suit against the APD, BATF, and everybody else.
02:48:13.000I mean, because it's a lot of hard work, but we have to stand up to these tyrants and show everybody it's criminal what they did.
02:48:19.000We salute you for standing up, for doing the petition, for coming on the show.
02:48:24.000We appreciate what you've done, and we're going to stand beside you.
02:48:27.000We'll have you on a week or so before the event.
02:48:30.000And we'll come out and interview you at the event, and we'll be there surveilling the enemy operation, trying to stop them from any set-ups or anything as well.
02:48:41.000God bless you, and I appreciate you joining us.
02:48:46.000I appreciate everything y'all have done today, and it just feels good to have somebody that's powerful enough to have influence in our corner.
02:48:56.000And I thank everybody, you and your staff, for letting me have this time.