Alex Jones Show - 20100129_Fri

00:00:00.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk.

00:00:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:06.000 Hello, my friends.

00:00:20.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:00:21.000 We've got two hours and 52 minutes left in this syndicated radio broadcast.

00:00:27.000 Bob Chapman, the international forecaster, will be joining us in the next hour to break down what's happening with the economy and the New World Order, the private banking syndicate that is dominating and controlling our planet.

00:00:38.000 I'm also going to be detailing a key article that just went up on PrisonPlanet.com that I worked on with Paul Watson at about 530 in the morning when I got up.

00:00:48.000 Cap-and-trade scam to be enforced at state level.

00:00:51.000 Individuals and businesses in Austin and a plethora of other states to be taxed for emissions of life-giving carbon dioxide.

00:00:59.000 And it details how we may have defeated Copenhagen and exposed the fact that it was a pre- Meditated system to tax the pound and a half or so of carbon dioxide that humans exhale every day while ignoring all the other serious real environmental problems like genetic engineering, cross-species engineering, and other things that we talk Overfishing in the ocean, toxic waste dumping.

00:01:23.000 That's why it's come out Enron developed a scam in the mid-90s.

00:01:26.000 That's why it's come out actually Big Oil's funding it all.

00:01:29.000 That's why Howard Dean and even Dennis Kucinich are against the government health care plan.

00:01:33.000 They finally read the bill.

00:01:35.000 It gives liability protection to the insurance companies and hospitals.

00:01:38.000 It puts 40 plus billion dollars of taxes a year on Medicare and Medicaid.

00:01:42.000 It cuts the services you get.

00:01:44.000 And then actually jacks up the prices.

00:01:47.000 So the banker bailout, a scam.

00:01:49.000 The health care plan, a scam.

00:01:51.000 The forced flu inoculation system, a scam.

00:01:54.000 Now even the EU Commission says they bought off their leaders, paid them off, the vaccine's dangerous, the German government wouldn't even take the shots themselves.

00:02:03.000 All of that is going on.

00:02:04.000 So, but they don't care if we expose Copenhagen as a direct global tax to be paid to the IMF and World Bank, George Soros, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, Pachari, head of the IPCC, Barack Obama, a lot of Republicans are involved.

00:02:20.000 They don't care.

00:02:21.000 They're now coming into the states, the counties, the cities.

00:02:23.000 And they're going to put taxes on everything, shut down the power plants, make you go to solar and wind, which it's great to put that in, but it destroys 2.2 jobs for every job you make, and in Spain costs $700,000 per Job they created and it doesn't produce a lot of power.

00:02:42.000 It's hard to transfer it down the lines.

00:02:43.000 There's so many things involved with that.

00:02:45.000 So that key article coming up in the next hour now, Dean Hagelin, I guess four years ago, three and a half, four years ago.

00:02:54.000 Yeah, a long time ago.

00:02:55.000 I got a call, he was going to be in Austin, came over to my house, interviewed me.

00:03:00.000 So you've been working on this documentary for a long time.

00:03:02.000 For those that don't know, he did an episode of Bones last week.

00:03:04.000 He's been on literally dozens and dozens of movies, TV shows.

00:03:08.000 Of course, one of the big stars on The X-Files and The Lone Gunman.

00:03:13.000 And he's here with us, and he's making a documentary, I guess four years in the making, called The Truth is Out There.

00:03:20.000 And so we're very, very honored to have Dean Hagelin here.

00:03:23.000 And because I've got to leave early today for a bunch of other business I've got to do, we're going to conduct my interview with him, but also his interview with me here on air together today.

00:03:35.000 So we'll kind of have a double combo, kill two birds with one stone.

00:03:38.000 But Dean Hagelin, it's great to have you here with us, my friend.

00:03:40.000 Alex, great to see you again, my friend.

00:03:42.000 I can't believe that's been four years ago that I came over to your house, right?

00:03:46.000 That studio was in your, was it?

00:03:47.000 Well, first you came to my house to interview me, and then about two years later you came to my studio.

00:03:52.000 Your first studio, which was a small one, and now look at this operation!

00:03:56.000 This is very impressive to see how it grows.

00:03:58.000 Well, we're building a TV studio next door.

00:04:00.000 Are you kidding me?

00:04:01.000 Yeah, it's a simple one, but yeah.

00:04:02.000 Wow, that's impressive.

00:04:03.000 But anyway, yeah, we're doing this documentary called The Truth Is Out There.

00:04:07.000 It's an exploration, you know, as I played a conspiracy theorist on The X-Files for 10 years.

00:04:13.000 My life now has taken on to where I go to sci-fi conventions and stuff like that and people come up and tell me their conspiracy theories and experiences.

00:04:21.000 So now we're traveling around the world and these people are coming up to me.

00:04:24.000 And of course you're a big part of that because every time I've come on your show it's been fantastic.

00:04:28.000 I've always loved it.

00:04:29.000 I follow you online all the time.

00:04:32.000 And I just want to know a bit about your background.

00:04:35.000 I don't even know how you got to this place.

00:04:36.000 How did it all start for you way back when?

00:04:41.000 Sure, I mean, I guess we can do the questions first for me, and then I've got questions for you and news items.

00:04:47.000 I want to do back and forth.

00:04:48.000 Exactly, I want to get your take on it.

00:04:51.000 Well, Dean, to answer your question, going back about 16 years ago, I'd already read a lot of history books, so I knew how governments really operated from a wide spectrum analysis of history.

00:05:03.000 Did you go to U of T here in Austin?

00:05:05.000 No, I went to community college and learned that they were propagandizing me there, because I'd read so much You know, famous history books even.

00:05:13.000 It was totally different from what was being taught in school.

00:05:15.000 I was being taught global government's good, the Second Amendment's bad.

00:05:19.000 I was being taught a left-right paradigm.

00:05:21.000 It didn't fit into anything that I had read previous to that hundred years, where people were taught liberty versus tyranny, freedom versus slavery.

00:05:31.000 And I learned that the same interests were controlling both political parties in almost every nation.

00:05:35.000 And so I went and started an AXS TV show.

00:05:39.000 Fourteen years ago.

00:05:40.000 And within six months I had a local radio show.

00:05:42.000 They offered it to me.

00:05:44.000 The program director saw the show and liked it.

00:05:46.000 And then a few months later I was on two days a week.

00:05:49.000 And then a few months later I was on seven days a week.

00:05:52.000 And then I started self-syndicating my own radio show.

00:05:56.000 And so for 13 years now I've been syndicated.

00:06:02.000 To mom and pops and to underground AM and FM radio stations.

00:06:06.000 Right.

00:06:06.000 And I started Infowars.com in 1998.

00:06:11.000 And so we've had that for 12 years.

00:06:12.000 Yeah.

00:06:13.000 And it's gotten better and better.

00:06:15.000 And we just continue to slowly grow and slowly expand.

00:06:18.000 And slow and easy wins the race.

00:06:20.000 Really not slow and easy.

00:06:21.000 It's a hectic schedule.

00:06:24.000 Yeah.

00:06:25.000 But still, we just continue our work to try to shatter the left-right paradigm, to get people to start thinking outside the box, and really looking at the official history.

00:06:33.000 I mean, the elites admit what they've done in their own annals, their own documents, their own articles, and they always laugh at us and say the public won't read this.

00:06:41.000 Carol Quigley was led into the elite's own documents in the 60s, wrote Tragedy and Hope admitting, we control the left, we control the right, we put in the communist and the fascist, we want a global dictatorship run by the banks.

00:06:52.000 David Rockefeller wrote a book four years ago saying, I want a one world government.

00:06:56.000 You know, unelected.

00:06:58.000 They had a Financial Times of London article, they've had scores of them, but last year saying, and now for global government.

00:07:06.000 And he said, yes, we've kept it secret for your own good, and that publication is on with the Bilderberg Group, a Bilderberg Group member.

00:07:13.000 He said, it's secret.

00:07:15.000 We are going to basically take over the society.

00:07:18.000 It's authoritarian for your own good.

00:07:20.000 We're going to have carbon taxes on you.

00:07:22.000 We're going to control every facet of your life.

00:07:24.000 And they've now had thousands of articles the last year in every major publication going, OK, world government's real.

00:07:30.000 OK, planetary regime is real.

00:07:32.000 Right.

00:07:32.000 They're coming forward with this quite openly, it seems.

00:07:35.000 See, they stalled us until they think it's too late.

00:07:38.000 Right.

00:07:39.000 And that's the thing, right?

00:07:40.000 That we've sort of numbed our brain, we've gone into a robotic way of thinking, and that now they can just sort of bring this stuff forward and nobody will rise up against it?

00:07:49.000 That's it.

00:07:49.000 Is that the idea?

00:07:50.000 The public is on Soma.

00:07:52.000 They're drinking the sodium fluoride and all the other chemicals in the water that all the mainline studies admit causes cancer, brain damage, 20 point on average IQ reduction in children.

00:08:01.000 It is a...

00:08:04.000 Chemical compound that's just one that they put in that just builds up and builds up our whole food supply I mean, that's the GMO they admit killing the rats that eat it.

00:08:14.000 Yeah Baby weights are going down retardation is going up autism is going up.

00:08:19.000 It's shot infertility is exploding Yeah that for 10,000 years.

00:08:22.000 We've eaten the same thing until the last 30 years our entire food supply has changed Completely, nutritionally, chemically, to the point where our bodies don't, that's why there's an obesity epidemic, I suppose.

00:08:33.000 And you can hold up, exactly, you can hold up a thousand government studies, university studies, peer-reviewed, saying it kills the rats, it makes them sick, with every major cross-species genetically engineered food crop, the potatoes, the tomatoes, the corn, absolute fact, coming out every day, and they just say, get used to it, shut up conspiracy theorists.

00:08:55.000 And then we have all these UN documents and others from 30, 40 years ago saying we will engineer the food supply to incrementally sterilize people.

00:09:03.000 In fact, I have this book, Ecoscience, written by the current White House science czar.

00:09:08.000 And in there, he says we've got to engineer the water supply, the food supply, to slowly and incrementally sterilize people.

00:09:16.000 So it's an incremental infertility, 80-plus percent sperm reduction in men, baby weights going down.

00:09:25.000 I mean, they are chemically in the water supply and in the food attacking us.

00:09:30.000 And in government textbook, I mean, they're now proposing on the news putting lithium in the water, Dean.

00:09:34.000 I did not hear that.

00:09:36.000 What would be the purpose of putting lithium?

00:09:38.000 I mean, well, I'm there.

00:09:39.000 Well, they say if it stops one suicide, You're not for suicide, are you, Dean?

00:09:43.000 If putting lithium in the water stops one's suicide, it's worth it.

00:09:50.000 Are you kidding?

00:09:51.000 No, that's what they're now proposing.

00:09:53.000 Well, so, this is what I wonder now.

00:09:56.000 Personally, you've done this fight now for 14 years.

00:10:00.000 The emotional toll of this sort of thing, what has that done for you?

00:10:06.000 How do you get up in the morning and fight this fight so passionately and carry on?

00:10:10.000 Because I know a lot of people that will, you know, get into conspiracies, they'll give themselves a stroke.

00:10:15.000 Our own producers in the hospital every other day because of this.

00:10:18.000 You know, it's so stressful on a lot of people.

00:10:21.000 Because you know the truth.

00:10:23.000 You've seen the documents.

00:10:24.000 You read the elites saying they're going to do it.

00:10:26.000 Right.

00:10:27.000 I mean, I had Rothkopf, head of the Kissinger Group, on a few years ago.

00:10:29.000 He wrote a book called Superstate.

00:10:31.000 You ought to go interview him.

00:10:32.000 And he says, yeah, world government's here.

00:10:33.000 It's for your own good.

00:10:34.000 We're going to carbon tax you and take over your life.

00:10:36.000 And a few thousand leaders run everything.

00:10:38.000 And then I have newspaper reporters in here and they go, Alex, it doesn't exist.

00:10:43.000 I had a Texas Monthly writer in here off and on three or four times, and he would just say, no, they're not putting hundreds of chemicals in the water.

00:10:50.000 And I would give him all the documents, he'd say, wow, it's true, but still I don't agree with you.

00:10:54.000 And, hey, here's all these studies admitting that just this one type of GMO corn from Monsanto that has pesticide that grows naturally in it, so if bugs eat it, they die, is causing liver failure in all the mammals they tested on, massive death, and it's still, well, I don't want to talk about it.

00:11:12.000 I mean, because they can't understand it.

00:11:15.000 They can't believe someone's doing it on purpose.

00:11:17.000 Well, let's say they're not doing it on purpose.

00:11:18.000 Monsanto knew in the mid-80s when they got approval for this.

00:11:22.000 And they've got a whole bunch of varieties.

00:11:23.000 Everyone does similar things.

00:11:25.000 Some worse than others.

00:11:26.000 They know it's out.

00:11:28.000 They keep doing it.

00:11:29.000 Bayer Pharmaceutical for over a decade, knowingly, allowed for HIV to be at all their factor eight and hepatitis killing over a million people all over the world.

00:11:41.000 And then I said to the reporter, I said, see, they're killing us.

00:11:43.000 They know.

00:11:44.000 And he says, but they didn't mean to.

00:11:46.000 What the hell are you talking about?

00:11:48.000 OK, fine.

00:11:49.000 None of them went to prison.

00:11:51.000 Why is that okay?

00:11:52.000 I've got all these textbooks where they're doing is to us.

00:11:55.000 That's what I'm angry about, Dean Hagelin.

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00:15:58.000 Dean Hagelin's our guest, but he's really here to interview me, so we're multitasking right now.

00:16:15.000 Dean, go ahead and ask your question.

00:16:18.000 Well, I'm wondering about the personal toll of this quest, this mission that you've been on.

00:16:24.000 You said it yourself, this mission to bring out the truth to everyone.

00:16:28.000 I know other people who get into conspiracies often find it very stressful.

00:16:33.000 It is very stressful, but when people attack me, and people lie about me, and people make stuff up, and run their COINTELPRO operations, it only makes me more focused, and more angry, and more determined, and actually gives me energy.

00:16:49.000 So that's why I've seen the toll it takes on most people.

00:16:54.000 And it has taken a toll on me.

00:16:55.000 I look a lot older than I actually am.

00:16:57.000 I'm thinking you're looking younger than when I first saw you.

00:16:59.000 Well, I have lost about 35 pounds and I'm going to try to go down about another 30.

00:17:02.000 You're working out?

00:17:03.000 Yeah, I am jogging and lifting weights.

00:17:05.000 Good for you!

00:17:07.000 I mean, I have decided and committed myself, no matter if they put me in prison, no matter if they kill me, no matter if they destroy my name in the media and lie about me, I know I'm good.

00:17:17.000 I know I told the truth.

00:17:18.000 I know I did my research.

00:17:20.000 I know that I have accurately forecast so much of what's happened.

00:17:24.000 Two months before 9-11.

00:17:26.000 You're welcome for your film to use that clip.

00:17:28.000 I mean, locally on AXS TV and the radio, saying they're going to stage an attack, blaming bin Laden on the World Trade Center, to bring in these new wars.

00:17:36.000 And we said in January of last year, 2009, we said we're getting word they're going to stage a big flu freakout.

00:17:44.000 We don't know if it's going to be a money-making op or the excuse for martial law.

00:17:47.000 But we got secret documents, Bureau of Prisons, New York State, get ready for millions dead.

00:17:52.000 We got secret documents and interviewed guests.

00:17:54.000 And interviewed other media that interviewed emergency managers in Indiana and Illinois.

00:17:59.000 They were saying, get ready for martial law.

00:18:00.000 Millions dead.

00:18:01.000 The flu will come.

00:18:01.000 Right.

00:18:02.000 It will kill millions.

00:18:04.000 And I went on air and I said, there is a massive buildup from California to New York, from Texas to Michigan, as a federalization drill, bare minimum, to scare everyone into forced inoculation and submission.

00:18:15.000 And then it all happened, and then we got secret documents from the state of Texas, our sources, that they were really going to a level six to declare a global pandemic, when it wasn't even going to be a pandemic.

00:18:24.000 We posted those secret documents, got ridiculed two months later.

00:18:27.000 It came out that was the case.

00:18:28.000 We've been under level six the whole time.

00:18:30.000 Yeah.

00:18:31.000 I was then able...

00:18:32.000 to point out that the whole thing was a hoax.

00:18:36.000 Now it's being investigated by the EU, and they're saying it is a hoax, where the big pharma bought off all the major government advisors to say this was real and deadly.

00:18:44.000 And so what happens time and time again is, on so many subjects, I mean, I told people in January of 2009, I said, Obama will have the lowest approval rating of any president by the end of the year.

00:18:56.000 He will go back on everything he promised to do because I knew who his advisors were and what they had been saying.

00:19:01.000 They were sending out quiet press releases to heads of government and others saying, don't worry, he's not getting rid of NAFTA and GATT.

00:19:08.000 Don't worry, he's not getting us out of the WTO.

00:19:11.000 Don't worry, he's not going to end the wars, he's going to expand them.

00:19:14.000 Don't worry, he's going to keep the torture and secret arrests and rendition going.

00:19:17.000 I mean, they were putting out in the lobbyist reports, don't worry, it's a scam.

00:19:22.000 Just like the insurance companies six months ago put out releases to other lobbyist groups saying, don't oppose this, we're just saying we're against the healthcare thing so people won't know it's a big money maker for us.

00:19:36.000 Right.

00:19:36.000 But then the Democrats actually found out, Howard Dean and others, and said, whoa, don't vote for this.

00:19:40.000 See, so we go off their own documents.

00:19:43.000 Yeah.

00:19:44.000 Because the New World Order is so big that most of what they do isn't really secret, it's just not in the newspaper until after they've done it.

00:19:51.000 Well, and this is my question then.

00:19:52.000 How do you know?

00:19:54.000 I mean, there's all these alternative sources of information.

00:19:57.000 We live in an information blizzard right now, so any comfort zone that anybody wants to sit in mentally, they can go to any website that will, you know, feed that information they want There's a million different flavors and niches.

00:20:11.000 Absolutely.

00:20:11.000 And we're not in any niche.

00:20:13.000 Right.

00:20:13.000 We don't say the Vatican runs it all, or Jews run it all, or Seventh-day Adventists are bad and run it all, or Scientologists run it all, or the Chinese are behind it.

00:20:25.000 No.

00:20:26.000 We go to the real history.

00:20:27.000 Powerful guilds of psychopaths and criminal networks of every race, religion and group at the top meet and sometimes they fight with each other but they meet and discuss the rules like in the Godfather, a Mafia Commission meeting.

00:20:43.000 That's what they do, and it's different groups together agreeing on the next year's agenda.

00:20:49.000 And I don't go off the thousands of conspiracy sites.

00:20:52.000 I don't go off of rumors.

00:20:54.000 I get a call that they've shut down the Austin Gun Show.

00:20:57.000 I start making calls to the gun show owner.

00:20:59.000 I start making calls to the police.

00:21:01.000 I get the document.

00:21:02.000 I find out it really happened.

00:21:04.000 We break the big story, it becomes a national news issue.

00:21:07.000 Police send me secret MIAC and Homeland Security documents where they're saying Homeland Security is really for peace activists, gun owners, conservatives, libertarians, returning veterans, that the whole architecture is built for the American people.

00:21:21.000 We then put it out, the COINTELPRO, the government ops, all say it's fake.

00:21:25.000 Then the media is forced to admit it's real.

00:21:27.000 So every time Just like when I expose 9-11 or any other big issue, I know I'm going to be attacked, but then the truth is going to come out.

00:21:34.000 I mean, they had a stage psy-op earlier this week, but I know the truth will come out on that.

00:21:38.000 And so I understand the truth is invincible, and as long as I go forward and don't care what people say or do, we're going to win.

00:21:46.000 We're going to come right back, Dean, with more of your questions straight ahead.

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00:23:55.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

00:24:04.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

00:24:07.000 As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

00:24:12.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

00:24:19.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

00:24:22.000 Bernanke?

00:24:22.000 They're arsonists!

00:24:23.000 They're asking for more matches!

00:24:24.000 The Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

00:24:27.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

00:24:34.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

00:24:36.000 They're asking for more matches.

00:24:37.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?

00:24:40.000 Today, it seems like nobody does care.

00:24:42.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.

00:24:47.000 Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at Infowars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:25:13.000 Dean Hagelin is our guest, and I had intended to interview you when you called me a few days ago.

00:25:18.000 You were saying, you want to interview me, so that's fine.

00:25:21.000 Something different for the listeners, but I'm going to try to back Bob Chapman up 15 minutes into the next hour, so that, and I didn't know you just came to Austin to interview me.

00:25:29.000 I'm honored.

00:25:30.000 That way we can...

00:25:33.000 We can actually have some time to talk to you as well.

00:25:35.000 Oh, okay.

00:25:36.000 But I mean, I am ranting, Dean.

00:25:37.000 Please continue.

00:25:38.000 I love the ranting.

00:25:39.000 And this is the thing.

00:25:40.000 You know, you are, of course, connected to all this information.

00:25:43.000 But my question is then, how does a person like me, the average Joe, navigate their way through all of this and find this truth?

00:25:51.000 I mean, other than coming to your website, is there advice you have for some?

00:25:57.000 One that is trying to assimilate all these disparaging and seemingly contradictory stories and information.

00:26:06.000 Well, what the global engineers do, and we already knew this from COINTELPRO documents, like the one I have right here.

00:26:17.000 That was a government program to get alternative media groups, activists to fight with each other.

00:26:23.000 We know that there are those type of programs, but we have Cass Sunstein, the White House technologies arm, the White House regulations arm, rather, we have Cass Sunstein, the White House regulations arm, coming out in white papers Just saying we want to infiltrate people's groups, come up with wild conspiracy theories that are totally ridiculous, as we've done in the past, is what he says.

00:26:49.000 And he says we want to get everybody in fighting with each other, and we want to start moving towards making it illegal to criticize man-made global warming.

00:26:56.000 He said we'll even make it illegal to say that a little bit of sunshine is good for you.

00:27:00.000 We will set the parameter very wide where nothing is acceptable for discussion but what we say.

00:27:06.000 So it's more than just a label to discredit what people are saying to call him a conspiracy theorist.

00:27:11.000 Really, it's about saying, we're going to arrest Galileo if he says that the sun is the center of our solar system, not the earth.

00:27:19.000 If you say that the earth is orbiting the sun, you're a conspiracy theorist, basically.

00:27:24.000 It is a type of heresy.

00:27:27.000 And so what they're saying is, we give you a very narrow, and it's always getting more and more narrow in this Orwellian system, set of things that are acceptable.

00:27:35.000 You don't talk about politics or religion.

00:27:36.000 You don't get politically involved.

00:27:38.000 You don't talk to your neighbors.

00:27:39.000 That's bad.

00:27:40.000 You don't talk about the foreign banks.

00:27:41.000 You don't talk about the banker bailout.

00:27:44.000 You don't criticize the government.

00:27:46.000 All of that is unacceptable.

00:27:47.000 So they attack, they infiltrate, and then they have radio and TV shows and other things that will mix Just like the X-Files, and I'm not criticizing it, but we know they did it, and I'd like to ask you about this, you know, that would mix a Chupacabra one episode with deadly GMO crops that sterilize you the next, and that's actually what they're doing.

00:28:07.000 Just like you said the CIA would come to Chris Carter and others and say, we'd like to see this in your episodes, and he'd say, okay, gee, that's an interesting idea, and notice most of the episodes that they would push for would be real serious things that they or others were planning to do, Right.

00:28:22.000 So when it actually happened, people were psychologically inoculated in a revelation of the method subconsciously to say, oh, that's just entertainment.

00:28:30.000 Right.

00:28:30.000 And, oh, you watch too much X-Files if that's what you're believing, right?

00:28:33.000 Exactly.

00:28:34.000 So one episode, a flying saucer lands with a worm that gets inside people and makes them mind control slaves.

00:28:40.000 Ridiculous.

00:28:41.000 Right.

00:28:42.000 Not seeing in the universe that couldn't exist.

00:28:44.000 And the next episode, there's a private group of bankers that are running everything.

00:28:49.000 Well no, that's a fact.

00:28:50.000 So see, and that's how media, the only time mainstream media allows this to be programmed into mainstream TV or mainstream radio is to, this hour we're going to be talking to Katherine Austin Fitts about how when she was at HUD, the government was running giant fraudulent scams.

00:29:10.000 Totally real, totally documented.

00:29:12.000 And then next hour, We're going to talk to demon-possessed werewolf people.

00:29:16.000 Okay, so see, then it gets discredited because demon-possessed werewolf people.

00:29:19.000 And I'm not attacking folks that do that.

00:29:22.000 It's entertaining, it's interesting, it's fine.

00:29:24.000 And a lot of those folks have made the point, well this is entertainment on the show, this is serious.

00:29:28.000 I don't do any of that.

00:29:29.000 Right.

00:29:29.000 I don't, because listeners will find me talking about star children from Alpha Centauri are interesting.

00:29:35.000 This is not a variety show.

00:29:36.000 We don't do that.

00:29:37.000 Right.

00:29:38.000 I sit here and I go off the real facts and I take a mainstream news article Like a story I have over here, where it says, Ben Laden blasts U.S.

00:29:48.000 for climate change.

00:29:49.000 And then at the end of the AP article, this is worse journalism than a high school journalism department, it says, the new message authenticity could not be immediately confirmed, and neither could last weeks.

00:30:02.000 So now, any audio tape they put out is Ben Laden, and they've had the linguist listen, they've done the voice key identification, it isn't even anybody near him.

00:30:10.000 It's just fake, fake videos edited from old videos, they've been caught.

00:30:14.000 The Intel Center, admittedly run by two of Rumsfeld's former top guys, who were in PsyOps at the CIA previously, they always upload the Adam Gadon, grandson of the former ADL head.

00:30:27.000 He comes out as the American Al-Qaeda, and they put the Intel Center logo in the same video layer as the Al-Qaeda logo.

00:30:35.000 So it wasn't another version of a video they got and laid theirs in.

00:30:39.000 Anybody who understands digital pixels, people have degrees in this.

00:30:42.000 We'd already done it before it came out in Wired Magazine and other places.

00:30:45.000 We pull it up and blow it up on screen because it should be different pixel layers.

00:30:48.000 It's the same pixel layer.

00:30:50.000 Wow.

00:30:50.000 You understand?

00:30:51.000 Yeah, so they're putting the watermark in it so that they basically created it.

00:30:56.000 They created it.

00:30:56.000 Because that watermark's already placed inside.

00:30:58.000 And it's 100%.

00:30:59.000 Wow.

00:31:01.000 Wow.

00:31:01.000 I mean, if you see online videos where it's somebody's news video and then somebody slaps up, say, their website on it.

00:31:07.000 You notice it's crisp, but there's pixelation around the edges.

00:31:10.000 Yeah.

00:31:10.000 That's just with one generation.

00:31:12.000 This is scientific.

00:31:14.000 Scientific.

00:31:15.000 You can tell the compression rate, what it was done on, what type of compression, what type of machine.

00:31:19.000 They have computer programs a decade ago.

00:31:21.000 You can run them through with fingerprints and tell, okay, there were three generations before the Intel Center put their logo on.

00:31:28.000 No.

00:31:29.000 Same, first generation, crisp and clear, Al Qaeda videos coming out from the U.S.

00:31:34.000 government.

00:31:35.000 And that's just for disinformation to confuse people.

00:31:38.000 Well, it's to scare people!

00:31:39.000 Oh my gosh, there's a new audio tape found on a website!

00:31:42.000 It's bin Laden!

00:31:43.000 He says he carried out the underwear bombing!

00:31:46.000 Oh my gosh, he says we better pass global warming rules or he's going to attack us again!

00:31:50.000 Right.

00:31:51.000 Oh my gosh, he says we better, you know, give in to big government or he'll climb out from underneath the bed and eat us!

00:31:58.000 But now, okay, so let me ask this question, then.

00:32:00.000 If media and that media control, yet you're affiliated now with ABC, is that right?

00:32:06.000 Or ABC Radio?

00:32:07.000 No, absolutely not true.

00:32:08.000 See, that's how internet disinformation works.

00:32:10.000 Thank you.

00:32:11.000 And that's definitely COINTELPRO in that case.

00:32:14.000 Do you have a cell phone, Dean?

00:32:15.000 I do.

00:32:16.000 May I have it, please?

00:32:17.000 No, but I mean, may I have it?

00:32:18.000 Right there.

00:32:19.000 Okay, this is an iPhone, like I have?

00:32:21.000 Yeah.

00:32:21.000 Okay, I have an iPhone.

00:32:22.000 Now, I have an iPhone, too.

00:32:23.000 In fact, it's out there.

00:32:24.000 Will you bring it to me?

00:32:25.000 I don't own any stock in Apple.

00:32:27.000 Apple Corporation doesn't tell me what to do.

00:32:29.000 I have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.

00:32:31.000 I have absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

00:32:33.000 But I have an Apple phone.

00:32:35.000 Okay, and I have a Toshiba television.

00:32:39.000 Right.

00:32:39.000 Okay.

00:32:40.000 LG over there.

00:32:40.000 Yes, now if you wanted to do a radio show by yourself and syndicate it yourself, you'd have to go to Jones Broadcasting, you'd have to go to Clear Channel, or you'd have to go to ABC Satellite.

00:32:50.000 There's three providers and any radio station owner listening to this is laughing because they understand this is a fact and how ridiculous it is.

00:32:56.000 Right.

00:32:56.000 Now, Jones just won't sell a feed to anybody.

00:33:00.000 Clear Channel didn't tell us this until we actually leased one.

00:33:03.000 Ted Anderson did, the owner of the little network I'm on.

00:33:06.000 He went and actually leased one for a year and found out, oh, we didn't tell you.

00:33:11.000 We won't give you the decoding scramble code for stations that want to pull that, you know, they have thousands of feeds to sell.

00:33:16.000 So that was, Ted was out 12 times $5,000.

00:33:18.000 It was $5,000 a month.

00:33:18.000 So Ted went And he was trying to be on little TV satellites, but he'd have to ship those to stations because stations never had them hooked up because they get radio.

00:33:29.000 And then we'd buy a sub-frequency on some Christian network or a Mexican TV station.

00:33:37.000 And then people would say, we work for the Mexicans.

00:33:39.000 See, because they play on the public's ignorance.

00:33:42.000 Right.

00:33:42.000 Okay.

00:33:42.000 And so the only company that, because the satellite's on the verge of, in fact, I think they already switched to another one, was ABC.

00:33:51.000 So we go with our little $5,000, and we take weeks getting them on the phone, and we have to hook up the equipment, and then of thousands of feeds, gardening shows, race car shows, when you're listening to a baseball game from another state, it's going over one of those three satellites.

00:34:05.000 It's like if I call somebody in New York City, it's probably going over a satellite.

00:34:09.000 And see, if I go doot-doot-doot-doot and call on an Apple phone on AT&T, I'm not owned by AT&T.

00:34:15.000 So see, or let's say there's hundreds of corporations with Genesis in the name, which there are.

00:34:21.000 There's Genesis Porno Magazine, and there's Genesis Lightbulbs, and there's Genesis... Ted Anderson, incorporated in Minnesota.

00:34:29.000 Anybody can check it.

00:34:30.000 It's Genesis Broadcasting.

00:34:33.000 He set it up in 1998, I guess, or 97.

00:34:36.000 Disinfo comes out and says, there's a Genesis in Saudi Arabia!

00:34:41.000 And we're owned by that!

00:34:42.000 Total lie!

00:34:44.000 Or there's a guy named Alex Jones who's 60-something years old with Scientology.

00:34:48.000 I'm him now!

00:34:50.000 Or there's a billionaire named Alex Jones in Canada.

00:34:53.000 I'm supposedly him now!

00:34:54.000 There's Alex S. Jones on NPR!

00:34:58.000 I'm him now!

00:34:59.000 So see, just like the internet can expose the big banks and the government, it can also be used as a COINTELPRO operation to make up all sorts of lies.

00:35:09.000 I mean, they photoshopped my head on a Catholic priest outfit.

00:35:12.000 I'm Protestant, and there I am.

00:35:15.000 Or they photoshop my head on a woman and say, there's Alex in drag.

00:35:18.000 And they say it like it's real.

00:35:20.000 Or they photoshop my head on a Jewish man and put me in a Jewish wedding with a fat lady.

00:35:27.000 It's real!

00:35:28.000 It's proof!

00:35:29.000 And in many of these cases, it's not just haters or jealous people doing it.

00:35:34.000 Some of it is.

00:35:35.000 I have actually confirmed and documented that, and it's been in newspapers, we're tracked by the army.

00:35:41.000 We have informants following us.

00:35:42.000 We have people trying to set us up.

00:35:45.000 We have them planting disinfo everywhere.

00:35:47.000 We had an Israeli diamond dealer run a five-year program saying I'm a Vatican killer.

00:35:53.000 Oh yes!

00:35:54.000 And it all tracks back to government.

00:35:58.000 And so the key is, you're asking me about this today so I'm talking about it, but the key is I ignore it.

00:36:04.000 I get on air and I say, I know I'm good, I know I'm real.

00:36:07.000 80% of the people conservatively you talk to, Alex Jones will come up.

00:36:11.000 Alex Jones will come up, because Alex Jones, 98% of the time, stays on topic.

00:36:16.000 But 2% is going to talk about this to educate people.

00:36:19.000 Alex Jones stays focused.

00:36:21.000 Alex Jones says, here's David Rockefeller's book, where he says he wants world government.

00:36:25.000 Here's Helmut Schmidt, he published Men in Power's political retrospective saying it.

00:36:29.000 Here's Carol Quigley writing a book admitting world government's taking over and it's good for you.

00:36:33.000 Here's the UN saying they want a world government to cut off your resources, bankrupt you, then they're going to have CPS take your children and sterilize you.

00:36:40.000 Here's 70-something government textbooks saying they want to poison the water to sterilize you.

00:36:46.000 Here is all these peer-reviewed reports that all these major GMO crops are sterilizing you.

00:36:51.000 Then I have top genetic engineers involved in the development saying, we told them this was sterilizing people and they said, that's what we want.

00:36:58.000 There's too many people.

00:36:59.000 So what we do is, it doesn't matter if I'm sacrificing myself to all the attacks.

00:37:04.000 Because at another level, the attacks just make me bigger.

00:37:06.000 I use their celebrity system against them, because any publicity is good publicity.

00:37:11.000 And then so, even the attacks actually, and I never knew this, I just tried to do the right thing, and it turned out that doing right just always works.

00:37:17.000 It's invincible.

00:37:18.000 I mean, if they kill me, it's invincible.

00:37:20.000 If they put me in prison, I only get bigger.

00:37:22.000 It's invincible.

00:37:23.000 If they torture me or put a fake video of me saying something, people won't believe that.

00:37:27.000 It's invincible.

00:37:28.000 The truth... Lies have to be reapplied, Dean, over and over and over and over again.

00:37:32.000 Right.

00:37:33.000 But the truth is powerful.

00:37:35.000 It's explosive.

00:37:36.000 You can't suppress it.

00:37:37.000 If you try, it explodes with even more force.

00:37:39.000 Truth has just an incredible dynamicness to it, which just cuts through the lies.

00:37:47.000 And the more lies you pile on it, the more powerful it gets.

00:37:50.000 Okay?

00:37:50.000 And also, those who have discernment know I'm for real.

00:37:53.000 Those that have discernment have researched my facts.

00:37:56.000 Those that have discernment have learned about the COINTELPRO tricks.

00:37:59.000 And now they understand.

00:38:00.000 And now they're wise to what's going on.

00:38:02.000 Right.

00:38:03.000 And all this information, you put it on your websites and all that?

00:38:06.000 Absolutely!

00:38:07.000 Anybody can access all of this stuff that you get?

00:38:09.000 Yes, yes.

00:38:10.000 Everything we get.

00:38:11.000 Everything?

00:38:11.000 Everything.

00:38:12.000 Wow.

00:38:12.000 And so, you never find that then, as you're getting closer to what is a universal single truth, that as the lies pile on, you know you're getting closer to that truth?

00:38:24.000 Yes.

00:38:24.000 Oh, it's getting worse every day.

00:38:25.000 Is it really?

00:38:26.000 Absolutely.

00:38:27.000 Is it coming to a head?

00:38:28.000 Predict the future.

00:38:29.000 How do you see this all?

00:38:31.000 I just hope it gets worse.

00:38:32.000 Is that right?

00:38:34.000 Why is that?

00:38:36.000 Because all the hit pieces only bring people to me.

00:38:39.000 And then they're going to hear me say they're taking your baby's blood at 37 years at birth and putting it in a UN biological weapons laboratory.

00:38:47.000 And I have the documents, I have the congressman, I had members of the Parliament of Australia on exposing it 12 years ago.

00:38:54.000 And they hear me talk about it, people won't go check the document out, they won't even go to Infowars.com, and now they hear it on their news everywhere, going, yeah, we're taking your blood, it's been going on for 37 years, globally, for your own good.

00:39:06.000 And people go, whoa!

00:39:08.000 See, more often than not, I go, oh, here's 10 articles today calling for rural government saying how good it is.

00:39:14.000 Oh, here's a bill calling for FEMA camps for your safety.

00:39:17.000 I told you they would call for it for your safety.

00:39:20.000 Yeah.

00:39:20.000 See, they wouldn't come out and say, oh, it's an evil FEMA camp.

00:39:22.000 Right.

00:39:23.000 So see, I know their whole... I mean, I was able to say exactly what Glenn Beck would do with his debunking of FEMA camps with total precision weeks before he did it.

00:39:32.000 Because I understand the enemy's mind.

00:39:35.000 That's incredible, actually.

00:39:37.000 And it's also... You know, I hear that and I'm frightened.

00:39:42.000 And then that fear is what's actually working against me, because that's what they're trying to do.

00:39:45.000 They're trying to... When one stares into the abyss, be careful you don't...

00:39:50.000 Turn into the abyss.

00:39:51.000 But the good news is, I have turned into the abyss, but I'm still a good guy and have my humanity.

00:39:55.000 But I am now, literally, psychologically, mentally, I am able to, anytime I want, look into things with their perspective and their grand architecture.

00:40:04.000 See, now I'm so high up in my study of it that I'm what they would call illuminated.

00:40:09.000 And I've had elitists tell me that.

00:40:10.000 Because now I am above the fog.

00:40:13.000 Right.

00:40:13.000 I now see a thousand miles.

00:40:16.000 Wow.

00:40:16.000 Well, thank you for that.

00:40:18.000 That's awesome.

00:40:18.000 How else?

00:40:19.000 I mean, you did it, and it seems that you have an incredible interior personal strength.

00:40:26.000 It's just, other people need to rise up and do that as well if change will happen.

00:40:30.000 Is that correct?

00:40:30.000 Absolutely.

00:40:31.000 I mean, what I love is reading Thomas Jefferson, because I read the exact words I have already thought in my soul.

00:40:39.000 And see, that's the thing.

00:40:41.000 The elite are awake and understand the way the universe operates and works, understand the systems, but they use it for evil.

00:40:47.000 The power is good people, and that's what they're scared of, is actually awakening, okay?

00:40:54.000 Right.

00:40:54.000 To the larger system.

00:40:56.000 And that can happen for anyone?

00:40:57.000 Any individual?

00:40:58.000 Yes.

00:40:59.000 And how hard is that?

00:40:59.000 I mean, it took you 14 years?

00:41:02.000 Or when did this shift happen for you?

00:41:05.000 I always instinctively understood their programs and paradigms.

00:41:08.000 Everyone actually does, subconsciously.

00:41:11.000 The brain subconsciously, in scientific experiments, is thousands of times more popular, thousands of times more powerful.

00:41:19.000 Again, the subconscious mind in major studies, depending on which one you look at, is hundreds to thousands of times more powerful than the conscious mind.

00:41:28.000 The conscious mind is a tiny focusing of the entire brain power.

00:41:31.000 The average person is an idiot savant and can do incredible mathematics and things like that.

00:41:38.000 They just have never discovered how to harness that.

00:41:40.000 So we all have gifts.

00:41:42.000 I'm nothing special.

00:41:44.000 Okay, it's just that I've studied them so long and really read so many of their own source documents, their own manuals, their own reports, their own systems.

00:41:52.000 And then it just verifies what I already instinctively knew.

00:41:55.000 Right.

00:41:56.000 And it's only been the last two or three years that I've learned to trust my overall understanding and instinct.

00:42:01.000 Because so many times it's right.

00:42:03.000 But I still know I have blind spots.

00:42:04.000 I'm not, you know, all-seeing or something.

00:42:06.000 It's just that the human brain is unbelievably powerful.

00:42:10.000 And I have learned how to start really tapping into that.

00:42:12.000 Wow.

00:42:13.000 That's pretty cool, actually.

00:42:15.000 Wow, that's awesome.

00:42:16.000 You know, this is exactly as we do our documentary, and we're going around and we're finding, you know, different people in the UFO world and stuff like that, and they all have their individual truths that they believe, but it seems that you can sort of find a universal truth that I don't think we've found so far in this documentary.

00:42:39.000 I mean, I'll give you a big secret when we come back.

00:42:42.000 Okay.

00:42:42.000 Awesome.

00:42:44.000 Because, well, let's wait until after the break.

00:42:47.000 And I'll reveal something I've never revealed before to you, Dean.

00:42:49.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:42:50.000 You bet, buddy.

00:42:51.000 And hey, anytime you want to talk, just jump in.

00:42:52.000 But you say you want to interview me, that's what we're doing.

00:42:54.000 I think it's fun for the audience as well.

00:42:56.000 Absolutely.

00:42:56.000 I think everybody wants to know this stuff.

00:42:58.000 We'll be right back.

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00:46:07.000 Well, the time is flying.

00:46:08.000 Absolutely.

00:46:10.000 Everything I cover is 100% what I believe the truth to be.

00:46:14.000 Right.

00:46:14.000 And I have an amazing track record of being about 95% accurate.

00:46:19.000 And over 95% of what we cover is from original source documents and statements, or it's media propaganda that we are analyzing.

00:46:27.000 But the big secret is I actually understand a lot more than I even say.

00:46:32.000 And I have my views and understanding on things that are seen as more archetypal conspiracy theories, like UFOs, spiritual issues, things like that.

00:46:44.000 I deliberately don't get into those things because I can't document them or prove them.

00:46:50.000 Okay, so I've done my own research on a wide range of things, but I stick to what is real and tangible because if the Delta Force was doing drills in 96, 97, 98, 99, all over Texas, renting buildings covertly, all over Texas, renting buildings covertly, blowing them up to scare the public, doing psych warfare tests...

00:47:12.000 I had emergency manager Thomas Sanchez on saying they told him it was for psych warfare.

00:47:16.000 It's since been declassified.

00:47:18.000 It's an acclimation process.

00:47:19.000 They've got Marines out running checkpoints for DUI for citizens, saying what's wrong with the stopping drunks, for a PR thing to get their foot in the door.

00:47:27.000 Oh, the Army, the Marines are here.

00:47:29.000 Yeah.

00:47:29.000 Getting rid of posse commentatus.

00:47:31.000 If I couldn't get people, when it was going on all over the country, I mean anybody listening has had these drills in their city.

00:47:38.000 It's happened everywhere.

00:47:39.000 But then the media would say it didn't happen.

00:47:42.000 Remember when they Delta Force crashed a helicopter in Houston, they said it didn't happen on the news.

00:47:46.000 And then Soldier of Fortune did a big report exposing it.

00:47:48.000 So see, if I can't get people to admit that in the healthcare bill it puts you in prison if you don't get healthcare when it's in the bill, if I can't get people to read Section 802 of the Patriot Act that states it's for all misdemeanors, you know, any action that endangers human life, it's a violation of any federal or state law, Then how am I going to get them, how am I going to be able to then get into other things that are more nebulous?

00:48:12.000 Right.

00:48:12.000 Be it spiritual or UFO or otherworldly.

00:48:15.000 Is that what you mean?

00:48:17.000 So that you are focusing then your larger world picture into the stuff that you can actually get.

00:48:24.000 The documents that you can get that are sent to you.

00:48:27.000 All I'm trying to do is to get people to know it's bigger than Democrat-Republican.

00:48:31.000 It's bigger than black and white.

00:48:32.000 It's bigger than Europe and America and Asia and Africa and Latin America.

00:48:37.000 It's bigger than how we're all divided and conquered and played off against each other.

00:48:41.000 I just want people to know there's more out there.

00:48:43.000 There's more going on than you know.

00:48:47.000 Don't let the system get you frustrated and angry and upset.

00:48:50.000 It's fun to explore this.

00:48:51.000 It's fun.

00:48:52.000 I mean, it's fun.

00:48:53.000 It's kind of fun when the media attacks me and lies about me.

00:48:58.000 Do you find that fun?

00:49:00.000 I've learned to make it fun.

00:49:03.000 And it really takes the wind out of their sails.

00:49:07.000 Because, I mean, it really is almost a psychic thing with a stalker or the government or anybody else.

00:49:13.000 You know, when the government used to death threat me and do all this other stuff to me, I would just say, bring it on.

00:49:17.000 You know, I don't want to die, but I'm not afraid to.

00:49:19.000 And I'm just standing up for what's right.

00:49:21.000 And they just disappear like phantoms in the morning.

00:49:23.000 I remember last time we had dinner here in Austin, two, three years ago, there was some corporation here that was threatening you, saying we're on to you.

00:49:31.000 Do you remember that?

00:49:33.000 Well, I mean, I can't confirm.

00:49:34.000 It was DynCorp.

00:49:35.000 But DynCorp was in the congressional hearings.

00:49:37.000 DynCorp, it was admitted, was running giant child kidnapping rings all over the world with the UN.

00:49:44.000 It was in major papers.

00:49:46.000 And I was getting very serious death threats over that.

00:49:48.000 Right.

00:49:49.000 And then that, you found fun?

00:49:52.000 Well, I mean, not just saying, hey, they're scum, they're evil, I'm standing up against you, and that means I'm hurting you, that means I'm trying to bring you to justice, that means I'm exposing you, and so... That truth will set you free?

00:50:08.000 It does, it sets you free.

00:50:09.000 Wow, that's fantastic.

00:50:10.000 Well, thanks so much, Alex.

00:50:12.000 We're so honored, actually, to have you in the documentary, because I know You're a busy guy, you do the show, and it's actually been really inspirational.

00:50:21.000 Because up till now, the journey has been, you know, people going into their truth, and some of it becomes really heavy.

00:50:28.000 When is your documentary coming out?

00:50:30.000 We're going to finish shooting this summer, and we'll probably be out around October, November.

00:50:35.000 We'll be going to different film festivals.

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00:51:55.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:51:57.000 Big Brother.

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00:52:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:52:09.000 You want answers?

00:52:11.000 Well, so does he.

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00:52:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:52:24.000 Okay, Alex, one more question.

00:52:25.000 The whole concept of shoot the messenger, you know, that this is the idea that you are bringing this information and that people who are afraid of that or don't want to hear it attack you.

00:52:36.000 What's your position?

00:52:39.000 How do you handle that?

00:52:42.000 Well, I get on the highway every day even though it's the number one cause of death until you hit about 55 and it's cancer and heart attacks.

00:52:49.000 I put my children in my car.

00:52:51.000 I seat belt them in and try to drive safe, but still, I mean, I'm...

00:52:56.000 I mean, I'm endangering their lives.

00:52:57.000 But that's the danger that goes on in everyday life.

00:53:00.000 So why wouldn't I take a tax?

00:53:02.000 Why wouldn't I take physical danger?

00:53:04.000 Why wouldn't I put myself at risk for liberty and freedom and the adventure of knowing the truth and standing up for the little guy?

00:53:13.000 Who's being abused?

00:53:15.000 And I'll go back to what I said earlier.

00:53:17.000 So many things I've talked about have come true.

00:53:20.000 So many times when I come out first on day one and say 9-11 is an inside job and lose more than half the radio stations I was on within a couple weeks.

00:53:29.000 I didn't feel bad when my paycheck went way down and all that.

00:53:33.000 I told the truth.

00:53:34.000 I had honor.

00:53:35.000 I was for real.

00:53:36.000 When all these so-called other You know, people and activists, I've seen them all sell out for a bag of peanuts.

00:53:43.000 You know, to me, telling the truth is what's truly honorable, and then being successful doing it my way.

00:53:50.000 You know, that makes it that much better.

00:53:53.000 There's no blood on my hands.

00:53:54.000 And so I really feel good, and I'm trying to teach other people how to have courage and stand up against tyranny.

00:54:00.000 And that doesn't mean that they have to all have my view or my idea.

00:54:04.000 One of the few painful things But I've even learned to understand that, that you're going to cast seeds out, and some are going to fall in the rocks, some are going to fall into the water, some are going to fall into the good dirt but not sprout.

00:54:17.000 It's a very small percentage that are going to get into the dirt and really grow into beautiful oak trees.

00:54:22.000 And so I'm throwing out all this seed.

00:54:25.000 I've woken up conservatively probably 100 million people worldwide.

00:54:28.000 My films have been seen more than 200 million times online that we know of for free.

00:54:33.000 The media can never understand that when I tell them that.

00:54:35.000 It's free.

00:54:36.000 It's free because I want the people to wake up.

00:54:38.000 The global is trafficking the men's souls.

00:54:41.000 The global is trafficking the souls of men.

00:54:44.000 And I traffic in trying to save those souls from being pre-programmed and never really flourishing.

00:54:52.000 And so I can't expect it that if I wake up a bunch of people, some of them are going to go off and do bad things.

00:54:58.000 Some of them are going to do good things.

00:55:00.000 Some of them are going to do great things.

00:55:01.000 Some of them are going to do nothing.

00:55:03.000 Some of them are going to turn against me and become agents of evil and agents of weakness and agents of corruption and agents of greed.

00:55:10.000 But that's the way it works.

00:55:12.000 And so, I feel sadness for them, just like I feel sadness for the public who will never hear this message of truth, or will hear it and dust themselves off when they've been hit by the truth, and you know, keep on walking down the road.

00:55:24.000 As Churchill said, everyone runs into the truth in their life at one time or another.

00:55:32.000 But most people get knocked over by it, get up, dust themselves off.

00:55:35.000 I didn't do that.

00:55:37.000 And so I've been awake since I was a child to the wonder, to the majesty, to the magic of the world.

00:55:42.000 And I think it's because I had that poetic, loving heart that I was able early on to also see the bad.

00:55:52.000 It's because I see the good and the beauty and the innocence and the honor and everything pure that I'm also able to then see the things that are dark and degenerate and dangerous and aberrant and bad.

00:56:03.000 And look into that abyss as you said earlier.

00:56:05.000 Yes, look into that abyss.

00:56:06.000 Wow.

00:56:07.000 That's fascinating.

00:56:08.000 So you can balance the two and without the one you wouldn't have the other?

00:56:12.000 Absolutely.

00:56:13.000 Right.

00:56:13.000 Wow.

00:56:14.000 Well thank you so much.

00:56:15.000 That's awesome.

00:56:17.000 It's very inspiring actually.

00:56:18.000 Because I know times where even I'll just be like...

00:56:22.000 You know, it seems overwhelming, all this information.

00:56:24.000 Well, that's the system trying to crush your humanity, trying to overwhelm you, trying to... It's called learned helplessness.

00:56:31.000 They've done it with dogs and rats and other mammals, where they shock them and torture them in a cage.

00:56:36.000 Every time they try to get their food, they get shocked, so they just give up and go in the corner and die.

00:56:41.000 No.

00:56:42.000 We're not a dog or a rat trapped in a cage.

00:56:44.000 We can break out of the cage and go against our controllers.

00:56:48.000 The whole world is a giant mad scientist laboratory where they're trying to harness and dominate and dehumanize humanity because they're threatened by that dynamic human spirit.

00:56:58.000 They hate it.

00:56:58.000 They want to destroy it.

00:57:00.000 Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.

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00:57:35.000 Food is your ammunition to fight for your freedom and your life.

00:57:38.000 How much will you need?

00:57:40.000 We don't know.

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01:00:05.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

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01:00:22.000 Everybody is, Dean.

01:00:23.000 Dean Hagelin, final segment.

01:00:25.000 Bob Chapman coming up here in just a few minutes.

01:00:28.000 See, Dean, I also have a long view of history.

01:00:30.000 Right.

01:00:30.000 I know that...

01:00:32.000 I could get killed, set up, jailed, destroyed in the media.

01:00:35.000 Doesn't matter.

01:00:36.000 I did my work.

01:00:37.000 I've woken up a bunch of people.

01:00:39.000 I've gotten them to think outside the box.

01:00:41.000 Many of the terms that I developed to describe the planet are now in common use.

01:00:45.000 And I'm not even credited with most of it.

01:00:46.000 People are using it.

01:00:47.000 Another example of the human potential, human power, that everybody has.

01:00:52.000 And so I know whether it's 10 years, 20 years, 30 years down the road, my work will just continue on if even I, the image, or the, you know, an icon of this, is destroyed.

01:01:03.000 Because it'll just be reborn later.

01:01:05.000 And so it's that unselfishness that conquers evil.

01:01:10.000 And it's also recognizing there is evil.

01:01:12.000 You know, there is corruption.

01:01:13.000 Right.

01:01:13.000 There are psychopaths that see death and destruction and a pile of dead bodies as beautiful.

01:01:18.000 You and I think a Colorado vista and snow-capped mountains and a beautiful woman, you know, with us that we're, you know, having a great day together and a glass of wine and, you know, happiness and fields of flowers and driving past happy, you know, farmhouses and orchards.

01:01:34.000 That buoys our soul.

01:01:36.000 But the criminal psychopath, the high-functioning, sadistic psychopath, They enjoy domination control.

01:01:42.000 In fact, I want to read this on air for your peace.

01:01:46.000 Can you guys print me the two Orwell passages that I read earlier in the week?

01:01:53.000 Can you guys dig them up?

01:01:54.000 One of the... and if we can't find it now, I will read it outside during a break to you guys.

01:02:00.000 Where we describe the enemy, where O'Brien is torturing Winston.

01:02:06.000 Yeah.

01:02:06.000 And just 1984, Priest of Power, we'll pull it up.

01:02:11.000 That'll give you the passages.

01:02:13.000 Also, 1984, Trampling and Being Trampled On.

01:02:21.000 Right.

01:02:21.000 See, because to them it's all about power.

01:02:23.000 It's just the continued triumph, the domination of goodness, the evil society working together.

01:02:31.000 Because all that's good to them is very ugly.

01:02:34.000 Right.

01:02:35.000 And so they're seeking to tear it down and destroy it.

01:02:37.000 And that's from fear?

01:02:38.000 Or is it just the psychopathic mind?

01:02:41.000 Well, they do have a lot of fearful control freaks that also serve them.

01:02:45.000 But at the very top, they're psychos.

01:02:48.000 And a lot of psychopathic tendencies are in families.

01:02:53.000 And you have a lot of elites inbreeding.

01:02:55.000 When you have inbreeding, psychopathic tendencies, megalomania tends to manifest.

01:03:00.000 You notice these elite families have been inbreeding for centuries in Europe, thousands of years total.

01:03:05.000 And so they are a different group of people in many respects from the general population.

01:03:10.000 Wow, well that's sad because I come from Swedish royalty myself and I shouldn't perhaps let everyone know that that's in my system.

01:03:20.000 But thanks again, you know.

01:03:22.000 Well there have been some good kings too.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, yeah, a couple.

01:03:25.000 But we can trace our, the Haglund family line goes back to King Eric XIV who was Yeah, he was a little crazy.

01:03:33.000 I think most of us who have got European ancestors, I mean, almost everybody out there has quite a bit, because there's been so many other royal houses, and Germany had something like 20 different principalities in it, each one had a king over it.

01:03:49.000 Right, right, and there were smaller empires.

01:03:51.000 Absolutely, I mean, it's ridiculous if you look at my family line, how many people, but I've got a lot of ancestors from England.

01:04:01.000 Yeah.

01:04:01.000 But, you know, German royals, but that's all a dime a dozen.

01:04:05.000 I mean, everybody, everybody's related to those people if they're European.

01:04:10.000 And most groups, I mean, most people who are from Mexico, I guarantee you have got some bloodline going back to Aztec kings.

01:04:17.000 Oh, right.

01:04:17.000 I mean, if you study bloodlines, it's like my mom's side of the family, two people in the Mayflower, my dad's side directly to Captain Jones.

01:04:27.000 That's where the Jones names come from, from Captain Jones, the explorer?

01:04:31.000 Yeah.

01:04:31.000 You could trace it all the way back?

01:04:32.000 Yeah.

01:04:33.000 Wow, that's pretty cool.

01:04:34.000 It's odd that you're now exploring still.

01:04:37.000 I think all humans explore though, Dean.

01:04:39.000 Oh, really?

01:04:39.000 I'm finding some that don't, actually.

01:04:42.000 Well, I mean, there are some people, well, they want to explore the football scores.

01:04:46.000 Yeah.

01:04:46.000 They want to explore the topless bars.

01:04:49.000 They want to explore, uh, me, I mean, I want to explore the mysteries of the world.

01:04:52.000 The mysteries of the universe.

01:04:53.000 Well, yeah, and you certainly have on this show.

01:04:55.000 Do we have Bob Chapman?

01:04:59.000 Okay, good.

01:04:59.000 We asked him to call in at 15.

01:05:00.000 I just want to make sure.

01:05:01.000 Dean, I wanted to talk about you.

01:05:03.000 You're doing a lot of TV shows right now.

01:05:05.000 That's right.

01:05:06.000 I just did an episode of Bones.

01:05:08.000 I also have a weekly podcast called the Chill Pack Hollywood Hour, of course, with my co-producer Phil Larness.

01:05:15.000 And we talk about basically filmmaking and also what it's like to make a documentary.

01:05:22.000 And you can find that at ChillPackHollywood.com.

01:05:25.000 And of course, my ChillPack, which you know, the laptop cooling system that I believe I gave to you as a gift when I was here a couple years ago.

01:05:32.000 Absolutely.

01:05:33.000 Yeah, it goes right under your laptop in the freezer, underneath the laptop, and cools it down.

01:05:38.000 You can get that at ChillPack.com.

01:05:40.000 C-H-I-L-L-P-A-K dot com.

01:05:43.000 And, you know, that's selling around the world.

01:05:46.000 So I've been really busy, actually.

01:05:48.000 I can't find my 1984 stuff that I was reading earlier in the week.

01:05:53.000 It's the trampled and being trampled on.

01:05:56.000 They getting it?

01:05:57.000 We're getting it.

01:05:58.000 The problem is, I have so much stuff.

01:05:59.000 This is like... I know.

01:06:00.000 This is one day of stuff.

01:06:02.000 This is just one day?

01:06:03.000 This is one day.

01:06:03.000 Well, those magazines have been in there for about a month, but no, all of this.

01:06:06.000 Well, I mean, this is just, look.

01:06:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:09.000 This is just a smattering of one trip to the grocery store.

01:06:13.000 Falling fertility, how population problem is solving itself.

01:06:16.000 That's just in the economy.

01:06:18.000 Economists.

01:06:18.000 It says fertility is falling astonishingly fast.

01:06:20.000 And that's bringing big benefits.

01:06:22.000 Less people's good.

01:06:24.000 Here they are saying the heir to the Rothschild fortune is the hero gene.

01:06:28.000 And it says that he may be basically Jesus.

01:06:32.000 Good God.

01:06:33.000 And then it says Al Gore is an eco-prophet, and stuff like that.

01:06:37.000 And then they've got our heroes for us, not people who stand up against tyranny.

01:06:42.000 No, it's got to be Colt McCoy.

01:06:44.000 So see, just a quick smattering there.

01:06:48.000 This is an outside magazine talking about the hero gene, and this is rather shocking.

01:06:53.000 I thought you'd have to find this in much more obscure publications.

01:06:57.000 No, it's just they have billboards up when we were in Los Angeles doing some interviews and just worshiping David Rothschild.

01:07:05.000 He's just going to save us.

01:07:05.000 We're going to pay our carbon taxes directly to him.

01:07:08.000 He owns one of the major carbon trading systems.

01:07:10.000 Oh, you're kidding.

01:07:10.000 Isn't he gracious?

01:07:11.000 To save us?

01:07:12.000 That's amazing.

01:07:14.000 And by the way, when he was on my radio show, people can get these folks on there.

01:07:18.000 How did Alex get him on?

01:07:19.000 That's another big conspiracy.

01:07:20.000 Well, he had a book for kids teaching them that polar bears were drowning, literally, and that we had to have a global carbon tax and he would save us, that the public school system was buying for kids.

01:07:30.000 So we call up the publisher, and we go, we're a large syndicated radio show.

01:07:33.000 We'd like to have you on about your book.

01:07:35.000 And so they had him lined up in interviews all day.

01:07:37.000 He was supposed to come on for 10 minutes, but I challenged him.

01:07:39.000 He was on for about 45.

01:07:41.000 And he was so arrogant, Dean, he was so arrogant to everybody that...

01:07:50.000 He would say, number one, there's no plan on carbon taxes, that that's a conspiracy.

01:07:54.000 Then two years later, he came out and said it was good, we all needed taxes, the carbon tax.

01:07:59.000 And then I said, well, why are the ice caps on Mars melting?

01:08:02.000 And why are some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn melting that were liquid, methane and other things?

01:08:07.000 And he said, oh, because they're now closer to the sun.

01:08:11.000 They're closer to the Sun than the Earth.

01:08:14.000 And I said, no, it goes Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, and then out to the gas giants, all the way out to Pluto.

01:08:22.000 And he just said, no, that's not true, and laughed.

01:08:25.000 In his religion, it's about The religion of the elite.

01:08:30.000 Yeah.

01:08:30.000 It's about contempt for the general population.

01:08:33.000 It's about thinking my audience was so dumb that he would come on and say, no, the ice caps are melting because those planets are closer to the sun than the earth.

01:08:42.000 Wow.

01:08:43.000 But even if he meant that, no, planets have gotten closer to the Sun, well then that's also what's making the Earth hotter.

01:08:50.000 But in truth, the Sun had just heated up.

01:08:53.000 It's the main giver of heat in life.

01:08:54.000 Right.

01:08:55.000 Some, you know, underground magma touching the ocean and coming out, that creates some geothermal.

01:09:01.000 But most of it, I mean literally billions of times more in the equations I've seen, comes from the Sun.

01:09:06.000 Yeah.

01:09:07.000 And they say, no, that's a conspiracy theory.

01:09:09.000 And the IPCC at the UN that runs this whole global warming fraud, they openly say...

01:09:16.000 That it's a conspiracy theory to say the sun affects Earth's temperature.

01:09:20.000 You can pull up the headlines right now.

01:09:22.000 UN says sun not affecting climate.

01:09:22.000 Google this.

01:09:26.000 And you will get them announcing they say, Dean, the sun doesn't affect.

01:09:30.000 When the Earth's tilted towards the sun, you get summer.

01:09:33.000 No.

01:09:34.000 That's not it.

01:09:34.000 No.

01:09:35.000 That's geothermal.

01:09:37.000 Yes, it's your breath.

01:09:38.000 You did it, Dean!

01:09:40.000 You're bad!

01:09:41.000 I shouldn't be exhaling.

01:09:42.000 Listen, there were only 20-something thousand two decades ago polar bears, which are still a large population.

01:09:47.000 Yeah.

01:09:47.000 And all the major archaeological studies they've done show that when it does heat up, there's more of them.

01:09:51.000 Okay?

01:09:51.000 Because they almost die in the winter, and then they only eat during the summer.

01:09:55.000 So the warmer it is, and it was getting a little bit warmer for a while, it's a natural up-and-down cycle, they were doing a lot better.

01:10:00.000 Now, unfortunately, it's getting colder again, so the population of polar bears will start going down, according to the historical record.

01:10:06.000 But they just tell people no.

01:10:07.000 I mean, my son has textbooks and stuff that say the polar bears are all dying, Dean.

01:10:12.000 And they're dying because of the global warming.

01:10:15.000 And they say penguins can't swim.

01:10:16.000 I'm not kidding.

01:10:18.000 Really?

01:10:19.000 They say penguins are going to drown.

01:10:21.000 They're, well...

01:10:23.000 It's an aquatic bird.

01:10:24.000 It's an aquatic bird.

01:10:25.000 I saw March of the Penguins.

01:10:26.000 They don't do very well on land, it seems.

01:10:28.000 No, they have contests in public schools.

01:10:31.000 I was even down in Port Aransas at a pizza place, and on the wall, they had all the little kids' pictures they'd drawn, saying, please save the penguins, they're gonna drown.

01:10:37.000 And then they had the kids all do that, and the kids love penguins.

01:10:40.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:10:42.000 Wow.

01:10:43.000 It just never ends, does it?

01:10:43.000 Wow.

01:10:45.000 So tell us, what TV shows are you doing right now?

01:10:48.000 You will see me, other than the Bones episode, I'm working on a show for Discovery, a conspiracy show.

01:10:56.000 Sort of like Jesse Ventura's, a little more fun though.

01:10:59.000 I love Jesse's show, but he's coming at it a bit... You're doing a conspiracy show for what?

01:11:04.000 Yeah, we're looking to get it on Discovery Channel.

01:11:07.000 Oh, so this is separate?

01:11:08.000 This is a separate thing.

01:11:10.000 This is going to be for theatrical and DVD release.

01:11:13.000 But it'll be another show similar to that where I explore these kind of things.

01:11:17.000 You going to come interview us?

01:11:18.000 I would love to, if you have me.

01:11:21.000 Absolutely.

01:11:21.000 My only issue is Discovery Channel did a five-part series with me and Shell because it was too hardcore like Ventura's.

01:11:27.000 Oh, really?

01:11:27.000 So they're going to want you to look into chupacabras and stuff?

01:11:29.000 Yeah, yeah, all sorts of stuff.

01:11:31.000 I went and looked with Dr. Roger Lear at some alien implants that he had removed.

01:11:36.000 Next episode, vampires.

01:11:38.000 Episode after that, Loch Ness Monster.

01:11:40.000 And then, Net Yeti, the Abominable Snowman.

01:11:43.000 Maybe some of that, but yeah, it'll be sort of that kind of thing.

01:11:47.000 And of course, you know, I do stand-up comedy, so I'm still performing live all over North America and all over the world.

01:11:52.000 Well, Dean, you are kicking butt, and I'm not trying to be mean, I just knew I could guess what Discovery is going to let you do.

01:11:56.000 Hey, but you're doing this documentary, that is good.

01:11:58.000 That is good.

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01:15:57.000 We're going to Bob Chapman here in a moment.

01:16:08.000 We appreciate him joining us today.

01:16:10.000 Dean Hagelin is here with us for a minute or two left.

01:16:12.000 He told me, is it okay to talk about the production company?

01:16:16.000 No, I'm not going to do it.

01:16:17.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:16:18.000 Talk later, yeah.

01:16:18.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:16:20.000 I just watched your six there, buddy.

01:16:22.000 But man, you're doing so much.

01:16:23.000 You're doing a bunch of TV shows, movies.

01:16:25.000 I mean, you're busy.

01:16:25.000 I'm very busy, yeah.

01:16:26.000 There's a lot of independent stuff.

01:16:27.000 I just shot a movie called Atlantis Down, but the Space Shuttle has shot that, so that'll be coming out this year.

01:16:35.000 A couple of other, you know, these independent productions.

01:16:37.000 Hollywood is changing the way it's doing business.

01:16:39.000 There's a shifting sand going on there.

01:16:41.000 What did you think of Ventura's television show?

01:16:43.000 I liked it a lot and it was great to see you on it.

01:16:45.000 I think it's great the way his research team actually follows the research.

01:16:50.000 So they all follow it down the rabbit hole, which a lot of shows didn't do before.

01:16:53.000 It's almost like Perry Mason.

01:16:54.000 Kind of like Perry Mason, where you uncover layer after layer of an onion until you get to something.

01:17:01.000 Got top ratings on TruTV.

01:17:03.000 Is that right?

01:17:04.000 I think he's great.

01:17:04.000 I mean, sometimes he seems to be coming in with, like, his mind already set, and then he just finds the information.

01:17:10.000 Yeah, but that's the first time it's been from our perspective.

01:17:13.000 It's true.

01:17:13.000 No, no, I was behind the scenes.

01:17:14.000 Ventura would really go check it out.

01:17:16.000 Oh, he would?

01:17:16.000 I mean, Maury Strong really does want to destroy civilization.

01:17:19.000 He says that.

01:17:20.000 Global warming is a fraud.

01:17:21.000 They already exposed the fraud before Climategate even came out and got Bill Sanford to admit the UN fudged the reports.

01:17:28.000 Really?

01:17:29.000 So that's great to hear, but I often think, oh, I got access because I was in the government.

01:17:35.000 I got access to all sorts of things.

01:17:37.000 No, Ventura, I'm telling you, Ventura four years ago was arguing with me.

01:17:40.000 Was he?

01:17:41.000 About this stuff.

01:17:41.000 No, he really went out and checked it out.

01:17:43.000 He believed global warming at the start of the episode.

01:17:46.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

01:17:47.000 I mean, that's real.

01:17:49.000 They really sit around screaming at each other.

01:17:50.000 I've been in that room.

01:17:51.000 Is that right?

01:17:52.000 Yeah.

01:17:52.000 Because I don't know any of those other researchers on that show.

01:17:54.000 They just sit around screaming at each other.

01:17:55.000 One of them is his son, who's one of the guys that woke him up.

01:17:58.000 Oh yeah?

01:17:58.000 I mean, that's real.

01:18:00.000 I mean, you know, they have some stuff where, you know, we gotta have a different shot.

01:18:03.000 Well, it's not, I'll have this all in your office.

01:18:05.000 Here, we'll do it down the street at this warehouse.

01:18:06.000 Yeah.

01:18:06.000 You know, where I talk to Jesse with a different backdrop, but it's really me talking to Jesse.

01:18:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:11.000 I mean, it's all, it's real.

01:18:12.000 That stuff all happened.

01:18:13.000 And they must have a hell of a budget, because everybody's flying all over the world on different planes.

01:18:18.000 They seem to be doing very well for a group.

01:18:21.000 I like it, though.

01:18:22.000 I'm going to continue watching, for sure.

01:18:23.000 Well, Dean, I'm going to go to Bob Chapman, but it was really wonderful having you.

01:18:27.000 And I'm going to come out during a break and ran out this 1984 quote to you.

01:18:31.000 Thank you so much.

01:18:31.000 And we can talk with a few of those other questions during the breaks.

01:18:34.000 And I look forward to seeing your film coming out next fall, and it's going to be called The Truth Is Out There.

01:18:38.000 That's right.

01:18:39.000 Thanks so much, Alex.

01:18:40.000 Dean, great seeing you.

01:18:40.000 You bet, man.

01:18:41.000 Take care.

01:18:42.000 Good seeing you, man.

01:18:42.000 What a great guy.

01:18:43.000 Are you going to be around this evening?

01:18:45.000 Yeah, actually I am.

01:18:46.000 My son's here today.

01:18:47.000 I'm taking him to get him a new bike.

01:18:48.000 He's got a bigger bicycle.

01:18:50.000 But maybe if you're around this evening we can actually go out and get a bite to eat or something.

01:18:54.000 Something.

01:18:55.000 That'd be cool.

01:18:55.000 I got a couple things to do, but I... Well, that's fine.

01:18:59.000 Are you here tomorrow?

01:19:00.000 I'm here tomorrow as well.

01:19:01.000 Well, we'll see what happens.

01:19:01.000 Okay, man.

01:19:02.000 See you, bro.

01:19:03.000 Take care.

01:19:03.000 See you out there.

01:19:04.000 Okay, Bob Chapman, I apologize.

01:19:06.000 I know you're a busy fellow doing research.

01:19:08.000 You didn't mind sitting there for 15 minutes.

01:19:10.000 Good to have Bob Chapman with us right now.

01:19:12.000 Bob, what's going on in the world?

01:19:14.000 Well, our president today addressed the Republican retreat, as it's called, and the results were that the Republicans weren't all that happy about what he had to say.

01:19:25.000 And again, I think, like he did the other night in a State of the Union address, one purely political, with a look toward, a mind toward, next November.

01:19:39.000 And I think that's a mistake for him.

01:19:43.000 I think he would have been better off in both instances, waltzing down the middle and trying to be a populist.

01:19:49.000 But they must have some fierce hold on him, and he's still striking out for his programs, which I think are doomed, with the exception of the increase in short-term, I will call it, debt, which they rammed through, I think it was yesterday.

01:20:07.000 I increased it from like $12.1 to $14.5 trillion or something like that, and that's another $25,000 a head for Americans to pay back.

01:20:19.000 But I think that a lot of what went on today had to do with the ability of Congress to pass some measures which would increase employment, and he talked about Uh, the credits to be given to business for hiring people and that sort of thing, which he was forced to do.

01:20:47.000 And he wants to make it look like it's a Democrat program.

01:20:51.000 Again, politics as opposed to helping the people.

01:20:55.000 Uh, he intends to help the people, but politics come first, which they shouldn't.

01:21:02.000 And, uh, and so the reason he did that, Is that both parties have plans which are relatively similar.

01:21:12.000 And so he wants to put the stamp of the Democratic Party on it.

01:21:16.000 And that's, I think, what it was really all about.

01:21:20.000 Absolutely.

01:21:20.000 When we come back, I want to really try to give you the floor with just simple questions on the economy.

01:21:25.000 Soros is saying he wants to kill gold, saying it's a bubble.

01:21:29.000 Your take on that?

01:21:31.000 The fact that they reconfirmed Bernanke, but that Geithner's on the verge of being indicted and being told to step down.

01:21:39.000 That is coming up as well with Bob Chapman, TheInternationalForecaster.com.

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01:25:15.000 Bob Shatman is our guest, as he is every Friday in the third hour.

01:25:20.000 Bob, again, thank you for joining us.

01:25:23.000 Obama is in free fall.

01:25:24.000 Are you concerned about the danger of him now staging terror attacks or a new war to try to get his approval ratings up?

01:25:31.000 I mean, that's what they always go to in their playbook.

01:25:35.000 Under normal circumstances, I'd say yes.

01:25:38.000 But I think in his case, no.

01:25:41.000 And the reason why, to me, is that They have to have better reasons than that to do a false flag operation or a 9-11 or something like that.

01:25:52.000 These people are so easily replaceable.

01:25:55.000 You know, it's like we saw Geithner arrogantly and it's so much fits the personality and the same kind of experience that you had when you talked to Mr. Rothschild.

01:26:10.000 They think they're above it all.

01:26:12.000 They're in a plane that we cannot approach.

01:26:16.000 We're just a bunch of animals upon Earth for them to herd around.

01:26:20.000 And, you know, you get this dreadful example of what they shouldn't be doing in front of the public, but they do it anyway.

01:26:32.000 And I guess they just can't help themselves.

01:26:37.000 Like Kramer saying that there's an Illuminati.

01:26:41.000 Did you see that tape?

01:26:43.000 Absolutely.

01:26:44.000 Unbelievable.

01:26:46.000 I mean, did he mess up?

01:26:48.000 But anyway, what we're looking at is a president that can be replaced in a light second.

01:26:59.000 And I just don't feel that His waning popularity would bring that about.

01:27:08.000 There have to be more serious plans to do things than that because they can replace these guys in five seconds.

01:27:15.000 Just like the fight over Bernanke which was passed.

01:27:19.000 He's going to continue to be the chairman of the Federal Reserve.

01:27:22.000 If it wasn't him, it'd be some other goat that they would put in his place and say, look, this is what you do, and we'll arrange for you to live happily ever after.

01:27:32.000 And it's the same thing with the President of the United States.

01:27:36.000 You know, if it isn't working well, well, all of a sudden what'll happen is that they'll say, look, you tried and it didn't work, and so we're gonna find out that you're not an American citizen.

01:27:48.000 Much simpler.

01:27:51.000 Absolutely.

01:27:53.000 What do you see unfolding with the banks?

01:27:55.000 As the economy gets worse and worse, as the looting expands, as the shops and factories close, as the people discover the Federal Reserve is private, which they've now done, and that they are doing this by design, and as the calls for Geithner to be indicted for Bankstergate intensify, where do you see this going?

01:28:18.000 Uh, first of all, I've not known of any alumnus who's ever gone to jail.

01:28:25.000 I can't remember in the last 50 years one that did.

01:28:29.000 If anything, what they do is they say, yeah, he's guilty, but we're going to fine him.

01:28:37.000 And that'll be the end of it, and then they'll put him on the staff of some foundation, or several boards of directors, that sort of thing.

01:28:46.000 That's how they get away with that.

01:28:47.000 And they have to do that, because if any of their crooks ever go to prison, that sets the precedent that other crooks can go to prison.

01:28:53.000 That's like in the old days in Europe, if a king was overthrown, the other king would just have him exiled, or Napoleon would be exiled to a different island, because they don't want to set the precedent to ever Taking down a kingpin.

01:29:09.000 Especially one of their own.

01:29:12.000 And that's very important because their pecking order is important to them.

01:29:18.000 They cover for each other and even though sometimes they're at great odds with one another.

01:29:23.000 The conspiracy itself is foremost and first.

01:29:29.000 The generation of power from one generation to another.

01:29:35.000 And so they'd only let each other down.

01:29:38.000 And if they do, it's a mistake.

01:29:41.000 I mean, they do argue and fight among each other, verbally, about what should be done.

01:29:49.000 And people like Geithner and Rothschild keeping their mouths shut.

01:29:53.000 And Cramer keeping his mouth shut, too.

01:29:56.000 That would be a miracle.

01:29:59.000 But, you know, if you don't think all the time about what you're saying, you can really get yourself in trouble.

01:30:07.000 Right, Alex?

01:30:10.000 Bob, so how do you see this unfolding then with the banks and the economy?

01:30:15.000 And I don't know if you saw the Soros clip.

01:30:17.000 It's up on PrisonPlanet.com.

01:30:19.000 We're going to play it coming out of the next break so you can comment on it further.

01:30:23.000 He's really bad-mouthing gold right now, saying it's the biggest bubble.

01:30:26.000 When the currencies are all being simultaneously devalued, they're pumping trillions out into the economy to buy up assets.

01:30:35.000 I mean, gold is only going up because they're devaluing currency, so gold costs more.

01:30:40.000 Isn't the currency and derivatives the ultimate bubble?

01:30:45.000 They certainly are.

01:30:46.000 And you gotta look at George's background.

01:30:50.000 Convicted of stock fraud in France, he appealed and lost.

01:30:54.000 Convicted of stock fraud in Hungary not too long ago, no appeal yet.

01:31:00.000 Uh, the guy is an arch criminal.

01:31:02.000 He's a front man for the Illuminati and they say, look, this is what we're going to do.

01:31:07.000 So you go out and do this, this, this, this, and this.

01:31:10.000 And what will happen is you'll make about $20 billion.

01:31:13.000 And then you will take that money and this is where you'll put it.

01:31:17.000 And this is what you'll do with it.

01:31:20.000 And that's how it works.

01:31:21.000 And when you die, all of the money that you've accumulated, let's say it's $100 billion, that will go to these different groups and foundations, which we control.

01:31:33.000 But George is doing this because he's being told to do it.

01:31:38.000 Well, it's like that clip from...

01:31:44.000 It's like that clip from him a few months ago, where he said, of course I know where the dollar will be going, but I will not, of course, tell you.

01:31:52.000 I mean, just a completely arrogant, criminal piece of garbage.

01:32:00.000 Now, here's a separate question.

01:32:02.000 I'm going to go back to gold.

01:32:03.000 Incidentally, that's the profile again, Alex, of the three people we just talked about.

01:32:10.000 Arrogance.

01:32:12.000 Above all, above everyone.

01:32:15.000 It's a hallmark with these people nowadays.

01:32:18.000 They never acted that way in the 60s and 70s and 80s and 90s, but they do now.

01:32:24.000 Why?

01:32:25.000 I mean, everybody's waking up to them.

01:32:26.000 Why are they so arrogant now?

01:32:29.000 Well, I'm just telling you, you're not going to take us down.

01:32:31.000 And I get news of them, they're going to get taken down.

01:32:33.000 Oh, do you think the arrogance is a front?

01:32:37.000 Absolutely.

01:32:39.000 It's a psychological defense for a sociopath.

01:32:43.000 I mean, did you see Geithner?

01:32:45.000 Like, he treated those people like they were animals.

01:32:48.000 He looked like a cornered devil.

01:32:49.000 He looked like a cornered devil.

01:32:51.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:32:52.000 Yes, and did you see our friend, Mr. Paulson, was terrified.

01:32:58.000 He was terrified, and that's the second time I've seen that.

01:33:03.000 Yeah, he's losing it.

01:33:06.000 He reportedly collapsed once after one of these and he is now shaking and can't talk.

01:33:13.000 He didn't used to be like that.

01:33:15.000 That's right.

01:33:16.000 This is an evolutionary process.

01:33:17.000 He got himself in with the Illuminati and he was boosted to all these positions because he was one of their donkeys and did what he was told and now after he's made, I don't know, hundreds of millions of dollars, he's being Having opposition bring him on the carpet and he can't handle it.

01:33:38.000 There's going to be a lot of that.

01:33:41.000 Bob, you remember 25 years ago when Volcker would be brought up, or 15 years ago, 10 years ago when Greenspan.

01:33:49.000 I mean, they acted like the Queen of England was there.

01:33:51.000 Everyone was just shaking, and the congressmen were just, oh, oh, sir, oh!

01:33:57.000 Now they treat them with arrogance and contempt like they should be.

01:34:01.000 Their shield of infallibility has dropped.

01:34:05.000 It's gone.

01:34:07.000 They haven't got the Volke yet, but they sure are getting the brain span of the books coming out on it, and what a dreadful character he is.

01:34:14.000 And, you know, he sold out what was right.

01:34:18.000 I mean, that's really the bottom line.

01:34:19.000 Well, he was one of us.

01:34:20.000 He screwed his fellow man.

01:34:22.000 He was one of us at a time.

01:34:23.000 I mean, he was writing books about the New World Order.

01:34:25.000 He knows everything that's going on, and that makes it ten times worse.

01:34:31.000 You know, he is one of the few who was actually You know, anti-New World Order, pro-gold, anti-Federal Reserve.

01:34:37.000 I mean, you read his writings in the 60s and 70s.

01:34:40.000 He was one of us.

01:34:41.000 They literally turned him to the dark side.

01:34:44.000 It's because he couldn't make it as an economist.

01:34:48.000 He had one client left when he joined the Federal Reserve, and they propelled him up.

01:34:54.000 They said, let's make a deal.

01:34:56.000 You do this, this, and this.

01:34:57.000 We'll give you that, that, and that.

01:35:00.000 And he went for it.

01:35:01.000 He sold out his fellow conservatives, we'll call them.

01:35:07.000 Unbelievable.

01:35:10.000 And of course Volker has always been one tough cookie.

01:35:14.000 And he would never get in like Paulson and quiver under cross-examination, we'll call it.

01:35:23.000 And he would never be arrogant like we just saw Geithner or Rothschild.

01:35:31.000 He's too smart for that.

01:35:32.000 Well, Geithner literally looked like he was going insane.

01:35:37.000 I mean, he looked... I mean, he was... I mean, he was... I mean, just the faces he was making.

01:35:45.000 Well, just ask any psychiatrist and he'll tell you, Alex, you're absolutely right.

01:35:51.000 It's the reaction of a conned sociopath.

01:35:54.000 And that's what they all are.

01:35:57.000 I mean, in other words, some of them are absolutely insane, but they happen to be in control, and we've got to take them down.

01:36:04.000 And that's what this program's all about, and all the programs like it, and all the internet.

01:36:08.000 We're going to make their lives absolutely miserable until they finally are defeated or they give up, one or the other.

01:36:16.000 Meanwhile, they just want to get us in fighting with each other.

01:36:18.000 We can't let them do that.

01:36:20.000 That's right.

01:36:22.000 Absolutely.

01:36:24.000 And so Mr. Soros is just doing what he's being told to do.

01:36:29.000 I mean, you got to look at his background.

01:36:31.000 I mean, he is a Jewish man who helped the Nazis kill his own people.

01:36:37.000 I mean, what kind of a human being is that?

01:36:42.000 That is awful.

01:36:46.000 Well, it's the same thing with Madeleine Albright's dad.

01:36:48.000 Mm-hmm.

01:36:51.000 I mean, it just never ends.

01:36:53.000 When she discovered she was Jewish, maybe a year or two before she left the general scene, so to speak.

01:37:04.000 And all her life she didn't know.

01:37:05.000 And of course she did.

01:37:07.000 Now, expanding on the gold situation, obviously if currencies are continuing to devalue, gold is going to go up, and Soros is always trying to manipulate the markets.

01:37:20.000 What does that mean to you?

01:37:22.000 Does that mean they're having trouble suppressing it, and he's trying to further keep it down?

01:37:27.000 Yes, it does.

01:37:28.000 And I'll tell you, today I wrote a piece that's going to be in tomorrow's forecaster, and it's about the fact Last February, the Federal Reserve made a deal with five of the six central banks or currencies that they have that are in the USDX, the U.S.

01:37:52.000 dollar index.

01:37:53.000 And it was Japan, Canada, Switzerland, the European Central Bank, and who did I miss?

01:38:04.000 Well, the one I left out was Sweden.

01:38:07.000 And so anyway, they swap $500 billion.

01:38:09.000 And what they do is they give these nations, five of them, $500 billion or $100 billion each, which the Fed makes up out of thin air.

01:38:22.000 And in turn from that, they get the foreign currencies of those nations.

01:38:28.000 And you say to yourself, why would they do that?

01:38:31.000 They do that to support the dollar, because when the dollar gets weak on the USDX, they go in and sell those currencies into the market, making the dollar go up.

01:38:44.000 I found out today that it wasn't $500 billion.

01:38:47.000 The rumor is it's $2 trillion.

01:38:50.000 Now, they're going to unravel that swamp, which means that The manipulation that they were able to affect to keep the dollar higher isn't going to work anymore.

01:39:09.000 Second of all, the recipients of the dollars, they took those dollars and they bought treasuries at auction or in the market.

01:39:18.000 That's not going to happen anymore.

01:39:21.000 Now, whether they'll try to unravel by buying back the foreign currencies that they sold Or, by the other central banks buying back the dollars that they sold, I don't know that they'll do that, and I don't think that they will.

01:39:40.000 They will hold it on the books and say, uh, this is an asset, and this is a deficit, and they offset each other.

01:39:49.000 That's what they'll do.

01:39:50.000 But the point is, that the manipulation of dollars is going to get far, far more difficult.

01:39:57.000 And the dollar purchases, Of U.S.

01:40:01.000 Treasuries is going to diminuate as well.

01:40:05.000 So they're going to have some real problems.

01:40:08.000 Another thing that's akin to that, Alex, is that at its height about a year and a half ago, the U.S.

01:40:16.000 was increasing money and credit, which used to be called M3, by about 17.5%.

01:40:22.000 Now it's about 4%.

01:40:24.000 So they've come down in the creation of money and credit.

01:40:28.000 The European Central Bank went from 12.8%, listen to this, to minus 0.02% for two months in a row.

01:40:39.000 Now, what they've done here is pulled the excess money and credit out of the world market, essentially.

01:40:48.000 In order to keep the system going, they have to have more money and credit.

01:40:54.000 Now, that means that they can't raise interest rates early or easily, and it also means that the $12.7 trillion that they, from the Fed Reserve and the Treasury Department, posited into the economy cannot be pulled out.

01:41:13.000 And they're going to have to find a way not to pull more out, But to add some in before the whole thing collapses.

01:41:19.000 And that's why they want a new jobs bill, which congressmen admit they've been told is another banker bailout.

01:41:26.000 And that's why they want the new carbon taxes as a new way to pump more money in.

01:41:30.000 But as things get worse and worse, like last year they put out fake numbers on production, manufacturing increases, and then downscaled them six months later.

01:41:43.000 They put out new fake manufacturing, what, 5.2 today.

01:41:49.000 And clearly that's fake.

01:41:50.000 They say we've got 10% unemployment when it's over 22.

01:41:52.000 We're going to go to break, Bob.

01:41:54.000 I want to keep you five minutes into the next hour if we can so we have time.

01:41:57.000 I want to get into how George Soros and others, when we come out of break, are saying they're going to continue with SDRs to fund the new cap and trade system.

01:42:06.000 So the central banks will take tax money and give it to their own systems.

01:42:10.000 So, I mean, now I guess they're monetizing their own SDRs.

01:42:15.000 Explain that to people.

01:42:16.000 Then I want to get into the cap and trade scam to be enforced at state level.

01:42:20.000 They're talking about $2.6 billion new tax on Austin coming up.

01:42:26.000 They're taking over the cities.

01:42:27.000 The UN is here, running the operation in Austin.

01:42:31.000 So we're gonna go to break, come back with about a minute and a half of Soros on this, and then get Bob Chapman's take.

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01:46:02.000 Let me switch gears.

01:46:03.000 In Copenhagen, you talked about your proposal as a way to fund CO2 cuts.

01:46:08.000 Talk to us a little about that and how rich nations might tap into that special currency.

01:46:13.000 Well, Copenhagen, let's face it, was a bust.

01:46:20.000 It was a disappointment.

01:46:21.000 But I think that the global warming or the climate change doesn't go away.

01:46:29.000 And we have to deal with it.

01:46:31.000 And it's of course very difficult now with each country under pressure at home to make any large grants or financing to the less developed world.

01:46:46.000 So I put forward a plan that they can use the special drawing rights they received in the last distribution, for which they have no use because their credit is good enough, to lend it back to the IMF.

01:47:02.000 And then the IMF can use it to set up a green fund that would finance investments for clean energy and infrastructure, agriculture and so on.

01:47:15.000 And then the IMF would be responsible for paying the interest.

01:47:21.000 And that could be then financed either by the developed world Picking up that cost, which is actually tiny, through their overseas development assistance programs, or they could authorize the IMF to use its gold reserves to pay the interest.

01:47:46.000 And the amounts involved are insignificant, and as long as the countries that lend it to the IMF Have the IMF as the counterparty.

01:47:59.000 There is no credit to this.

01:48:00.000 So that's what...

01:48:02.000 Well, George Soros goes on and on in the interview, how they're going to continue getting our property.

01:48:11.000 They're going to continue coming after our land.

01:48:12.000 They're going to continue to try to set up a global dictatorship that decides who can have a business, who can't.

01:48:17.000 And Austin is the crown jewel.

01:48:20.000 They're hiring former Pentagon officials, black ops, it's in the paper.

01:48:24.000 Oh, the black ops commander, CIA black ops and psych warfare is running the program.

01:48:29.000 I mean, hellish inspectors coming into our houses, brainwashing our kids.

01:48:33.000 They mean business, Bob Chapman.

01:48:35.000 They certainly do, and they've never meant anything but business.

01:48:40.000 And they're not going to give up easy.

01:48:42.000 And as you can see, they're trying to bypass legislation through various means to implement this global warming climate change taxation model.

01:48:58.000 And they're going to continue to do it as long as we let them.

01:49:02.000 Now, Bob, when we went to break, you were starting to get a little bit into how much trouble they're in and what's going to happen with the economy.

01:49:09.000 I mean, they wanted to implode it, to consolidate it.

01:49:13.000 That's in the Goldman Sachs documents.

01:49:14.000 But you're saying this has gotten out of hand for them.

01:49:17.000 The greediness is, they've kind of over-gorged themselves on our blood?

01:49:20.000 I think that's true.

01:49:23.000 And I also, I don't know what they're going to do next.

01:49:28.000 They're either ready to pull the plug, Or they're going to have to re-inflate again.

01:49:34.000 And I don't know which, and I don't think anybody else does for that matter.

01:49:38.000 All we can do is guess.

01:49:40.000 But this is the smallest amount of money in credit that I've seen in a long, long time by a multiplicity of countries.

01:49:50.000 So this is centrally planned, this is not coincidence.

01:49:53.000 It's just like the comment and hearing that's going on, created by the administration to see what the public reaction is going to be to government issuing annuities for your retirement plans.

01:50:15.000 That's right.

01:50:15.000 They're saying they're going to take your 401k or your pension.

01:50:20.000 This is mainstream news.

01:50:22.000 I told you four years ago they were going to do it.

01:50:24.000 And they're going to tax it and manage it for you, Bob.

01:50:27.000 You're not going to be allowed to have your own bank account.

01:50:29.000 Not going to be allowed.

01:50:30.000 They're now saying this is again federal regulation.

01:50:34.000 They're saying that money markets aren't insured.

01:50:37.000 Stay there, Bob.

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01:51:57.000 There is so much I want to talk to Bob Chapman about.

01:52:08.000 We are out of time.

01:52:10.000 We've got Dr. Tim Ball, climatologist, coming up, but we know Paulson.

01:52:17.000 In a coordinated effort with the European Central Banks, plunge the housing market.

01:52:22.000 They started using their media to badmouth it in 2007.

01:52:25.000 Now they blame the Russians for the economic crisis of 2008.

01:52:29.000 He says a secret conspiracy when the Russian market went down by, what, over 60% with no evidence.

01:52:36.000 I mean, they're really getting desperate now in testimony, Bob Chapman.

01:52:40.000 Oh, they certainly are.

01:52:42.000 And I noticed the President came out and said, we're not putting those missiles and radar stations 35 miles away from Kalanenburg.

01:52:54.000 Well, the Russian city that's nearby.

01:52:56.000 And this is the exact opposite of what the previous administration said.

01:53:01.000 They had to have the missiles and the radar because of Iran.

01:53:05.000 And now the United States government is admitting that that wasn't the case.

01:53:09.000 Our previous president lied.

01:53:12.000 And it's really because we don't trust the Russians.

01:53:16.000 Well, I mean, what's incredible about this is, on record, the big banks, the central banks, the kingpin banks, not your Mayberry Bank folks, but the big global banks, they engineered this whole thing on purpose in public.

01:53:31.000 And to now have conspiracy theories about how the Russians did it is just asinine.

01:53:38.000 They are taking over the major highways for toll roads.

01:53:40.000 We're fighting them on that.

01:53:42.000 They just re-change the name and say they've cancelled it and then go ahead with it.

01:53:46.000 They say, OK, we won't put a toll road there, and then they just do it.

01:53:50.000 I mean, how long can they get away with this seizing everything?

01:53:53.000 It shows they're going for broke pretty much militarily to where they just keep denying, denying, denying as they keep doing it.

01:54:01.000 And now they're coming in saying they're going to seize all our major energy locally in every major city and have environmental inspectors in our houses and $2.6 billion in Austin alone of new taxes in the next three years.

01:54:13.000 I mean, my God, they are just going wild.

01:54:17.000 That's right, and it's up to people at the local level to stop them.

01:54:22.000 I mean, it's their cities, their towns, their counties, and their states that are being intruded upon.

01:54:28.000 Their sovereignty, collectively, is being misused by these people.

01:54:33.000 I mean, where do these people come from?

01:54:36.000 Get out of here!

01:54:37.000 Don't do that!

01:54:38.000 We don't want you!

01:54:39.000 Do you hear that in Austin?

01:54:43.000 Well, the public thinks they're going bankrupt now.

01:54:45.000 Just wait.

01:54:46.000 And again, that's the plan, isn't it, Bob?

01:54:48.000 It certainly is.

01:54:50.000 We've got 40 states on the edge, and three of them are really in trouble.

01:54:55.000 And of course, California is the number one victim, which has been coming for years.

01:55:01.000 I lived there for 36 years.

01:55:03.000 I left because they said, in 1994, they're going bankrupt.

01:55:06.000 It's over.

01:55:08.000 And of course, it took a little bit longer than I thought, but it's over.

01:55:13.000 There's no way they can get out.

01:55:14.000 They're going to have to cut pensions and salaries and have layoffs and they're going to have to get rid of their illegal aliens.

01:55:22.000 Bob, we've only got a minute and a half left.

01:55:25.000 When they make the federal declarations, which they've already made, that they're going to not insure money markets, which are savings accounts, and that they're going to take people's pension funds, but the government will keep it for you and give you part of it.

01:55:39.000 I mean, do they think the public's going to put up with that?

01:55:43.000 Well, they're bringing us closer to revolution, I'll tell you that.

01:55:46.000 We either take over with new people in the House and the Senate, and get 1207 passed as part of the Appropriations Bill, or it's over.

01:55:55.000 They will get it in the streets.

01:55:56.000 And they will not survive.

01:55:58.000 Believe me.

01:55:59.000 They don't stand a chance.

01:56:01.000 And our military is not going to shoot us.

01:56:04.000 Believe me.

01:56:04.000 Well, that's the good news, Bob, is the elites have for the last four years all been moving their main homes to remote islands.

01:56:13.000 And so they may just be robbing us and leaving a base here hoping they're going to win.

01:56:21.000 Well, I'll tell you, going to a remote somewhere is not the answer because today it's so easy to track people down unless you're really an expert.

01:56:31.000 It's not like after the Second World War and all those Nazis were hiding all over the world.

01:56:36.000 This is a different thing.

01:56:37.000 And they're not going to get away with it.

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01:56:45.000 Bob, always great talking to you.

01:56:47.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

01:56:48.000 Thank you and thanks everybody for listening.

01:56:50.000 Bye-bye.

01:56:51.000 Take care.

01:56:51.000 We'll see you next Friday.

01:56:53.000 Okay, Dr. Tim Ball coming up on all the latest on ClimateGate in the next phase.

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01:58:07.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

01:58:12.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

01:58:19.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!

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01:58:34.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

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02:00:08.000 We're going to be talking to Dr. Tim Ball, a renowned environmental consultant, former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg.

02:00:15.000 Dr. Ball employs his expertise, background in climatology and other fields as an advisor to the International Climate Science Coalition, Friends of Science, and the Frontier Center for Public Policy.

02:00:28.000 They've called for his arrest in England.

02:00:30.000 I mean, they've said that he and Lord Monckton and others should just be arrested.

02:00:34.000 Cass Sunstein, the new regulations czar, says, arrest people if they deny climate change.

02:00:40.000 So now, all these tens of thousands, I mean, thirty-something thousand sent letters to Congress, top scientists, climatologists, hydrologists, Meteorologist.

02:00:53.000 And Al Gore said that testimony won't be allowed.

02:00:56.000 His friends in the Democratic Party said no.

02:00:59.000 Not allowed.

02:01:00.000 And he said the science is settled.

02:01:01.000 No one disagrees.

02:01:02.000 And Obama said that in his speech two nights ago at the State of the Union.

02:01:06.000 He said, you know, there's no questions.

02:01:08.000 So we're going to Dr. Tim Ball here in just a moment to talk about all those issues with him.

02:01:16.000 Now we know this is all based on fraudulent science.

02:01:18.000 It's publicly admitted with their own internal emails and now More than 10 news scandals where the whole UN, all the universities they use, all a tissue of lies and fraud with them caught red-handed lying on purpose.

02:01:34.000 I mean, this is like somebody calling the fire department and saying, my neighbor's house is on fire, and then the fire department pulls up and there's no fire, and they see the guy laughing, saying, I lied, I lied.

02:01:44.000 I mean, he gets arrested for a false report.

02:01:47.000 I mean, there's no doubt.

02:01:49.000 We have them red-handed.

02:01:51.000 But they're not going to stop.

02:01:52.000 So I wanted to read this, because this is the new angle.

02:01:55.000 In England, the EU, their own government, common purpose.

02:01:59.000 In Canada, in the US, in Europe, in Japan.

02:02:01.000 the federal governments and the U.N. are just openly funding the cities and the banks and the federal money to seize houses, seize property, shut down power plants, huge boondoggles to Al Gore and others that own these windmill companies that you lose 2.2 jobs on average huge boondoggles to Al Gore and others that own these windmill companies that you lose And they cost $700,000 per green job they create.

02:02:25.000 So as they kill your economy, they say, Maury Strong's system to destroy industrial society, it will give you jobs.

02:02:33.000 And so yeah, one out of a hundred or so, they do get a job as enforcers of the destruction.

02:02:39.000 Meanwhile, China is the new industrial haven where everything's authorized.

02:02:43.000 So no one else is allowed to manufacture, this is really mercantilism, but China.

02:02:47.000 And a few of the third world countries.

02:02:49.000 They're bringing back mercantilism.

02:02:51.000 You know, the colonies couldn't produce anything that was a value-added good.

02:02:55.000 Only raw cotton, tobacco, things like that.

02:03:01.000 Corn, wheat.

02:03:03.000 That's how the British and French empires operated.

02:03:05.000 Mercantilism was developed 400 years ago into the system and is now to keep only certain elites in power.

02:03:11.000 That's what this fake environmentalism is.

02:03:13.000 We're going to Tim Ball here in a minute, but I wanted to start into this article from PrisonPlanet.com.

02:03:18.000 It's only been out for about two hours.

02:03:19.000 I'm asking everyone, especially in cities where it's happening, San Francisco, Austin, Texas, LA, New York, Boston, you had better Miami.

02:03:30.000 Small towns, they're doing it.

02:03:31.000 I mean, there's U.N.

02:03:32.000 representatives, the feds are here.

02:03:34.000 I've been to the meetings, they laugh and admit it.

02:03:37.000 Home inspectors taking your property.

02:03:39.000 I mean, it's already been hell here in Austin.

02:03:41.000 The mayor, former mayors openly take the property letter they took.

02:03:44.000 I mean, just, it's just walled.

02:03:47.000 It's like Geithner's thieving.

02:03:49.000 Cap and trade scam to be enforced at state level.

02:03:52.000 And earlier, I read to you, on air, All of the mainstream news articles out of Bloomberg, you name it.

02:04:02.000 I'll show you some of those coming up.

02:04:04.000 They're hearing my stack.

02:04:05.000 I need to dig them out.

02:04:07.000 Where they admit, okay, they can't get it at the Congressional level with the Senate.

02:04:12.000 They can't pass this tyranny.

02:04:14.000 So they'll have the EPA at the federal bureaucracy do it, and they'll have local governments do it, and international governments come in and fund your local governments.

02:04:21.000 So foreign governments coming in with a 2.6 million tax, 2.6 billion dollar tax in Austin alone.

02:04:32.000 Globalist Uh, intent on ushering in a zero-growth post-industrial society or bypassing the federal government's stuttering efforts to implement the cap-and-trade scam and going directly to the states in an effort to impose their control-freak tax on every life-giving gas that we all exhale carbon dioxide.

02:04:52.000 And it just goes on and on.

02:04:53.000 It says the Austin Energy, which powers the city, presented to the City Council, Austin Energy Carbon Reduction Plan, which goes even further than the federal cap-and-trade bill in calling for CO2 emissions to be reduced by 20%.

02:05:05.000 The fact that the energy companies are behind this, again, disproves the flawed notion that the oil and electricity companies oppose the global warming movement.

02:05:14.000 No, they get all the money to put in the windmills.

02:05:17.000 And that it's taxes on natural gas, it's home inspections.

02:05:21.000 I mean, folks, I'm going to read more of this later.

02:05:22.000 I want to go to Dr. Tim Ball while I dig out my other stories I wanted to go to.

02:05:27.000 But I mean, this is so diabolical.

02:05:30.000 And when I tried to tell Dr. Tim Ball during the break about this, he said, yes, I know, Alex, but it's all based on fraud.

02:05:35.000 And I know that and he knows that.

02:05:37.000 But you've got to go to your city councils and say, this is all an admitted bona fide scam developed by Enron and the U.N.

02:05:45.000 It's just so amazing.

02:05:48.000 Climatologist Tim Ball, thanks for being here with us.

02:05:50.000 Well thank you Alex, thanks for the opportunity and a very good summary of what's going on and I've watched them hijack climate science as the vehicle and as we've talked about before going back to the Club of Rome where they state that global warming is going to be the vehicle that they'll use to take control and we're seeing that and now even though the biggest scandal

02:06:14.000 And I think without hyperbole, the biggest scandal certainly in science history, and possibly in world history, where people at all levels of government have been involved, and the IPCC and so on, and yet it's virtually being downplayed and pushed aside as, you know, as somebody once said, it's like the policemen say, no, nothing going on here, move along, move along.

02:06:35.000 And it's absolutely incredible.

02:06:37.000 And I think what people need to think about, Alex, is if this level of malfeasance and sheer criminality occurred in any other discipline, I mean, people would be locked up instantly.

02:06:51.000 If it occurred in medicine, for example, even a fraction of it.

02:06:56.000 But somehow they're able to gloss it over and pretend that nothing's wrong.

02:07:02.000 And then the latest game is, oh, no, the fundamental science is still okay.

02:07:07.000 In fact, John Beddington, the head of the UK science group, saying this.

02:07:11.000 Well, no, it isn't.

02:07:12.000 That's the whole point of what the skeptics were trying to point out.

02:07:15.000 There's now universities, governments, admitting thermometer fraud always to make it look like it's hotter.

02:07:23.000 Caught red-handed in Canada, the U.S., New Zealand, England, Russia.

02:07:29.000 And we have the U.N.

02:07:30.000 documents where they went in the mid-90s and recruited these key universities to unify the fraud.

02:07:35.000 And Bill Santer, the head of the U.N.

02:07:38.000 program, admitting they took out all the scientists out of their report.

02:07:41.000 In the mid-nineties saying, man, is it doing this?

02:07:44.000 And Pachari making money off shutting down factories and relocating them to India.

02:07:49.000 And admitting they lied in the report about the melting of the glaciers in the Himalayas.

02:07:55.000 Admitting, oh, we did that to scare you.

02:07:57.000 I mean, there's just red-handed fraud everywhere.

02:08:00.000 Al Gore making money off of it.

02:08:02.000 The Rothschilds.

02:08:03.000 The Rockefellers.

02:08:05.000 Just all of it.

02:08:07.000 Alex and Pachauri himself.

02:08:09.000 He's made a huge amount of money.

02:08:12.000 And in fact, the scientist that was quoted by a reporter as saying that the glaciers in the Himalayas will be gone by 2035, he works for Terra, which is owned and run by Pachauri.

02:08:26.000 Exactly, it's all come out that every major scientist, whether it's the flu scare, the economists hired for the takeover of healthcare, all the major scientists and spokesmen are all on the payroll of the carbon traders.

02:08:42.000 I mean, it's just total fraud out in the open.

02:08:45.000 Right, and I watched it, you know, 30 years ago, there was a guy by the name of Tom Wigley, He was the guy that took control of the Climatic Research Unit, which is where all of the rot was centered from the climate science point of view.

02:09:00.000 I'm not talking necessarily now about the political side of it.

02:09:02.000 That was more strong in the UN and the IPCC.

02:09:05.000 Well, Wigley and Jones, and Jones has now been pushed aside as they had, those two attended the first meeting in 1985 to set up the IPCC, and then they provided the science that Strong and his gang needed to push this whole and then they provided the science that Strong and his gang needed to push this whole agenda of carbon And Wigley was the bad man, and if you read the emails, he's the go-to guy.

02:09:35.000 He's the grandfather, almost like the Mafia.

02:09:38.000 And when you read the emails, they're saying, look, we got this problem, and he's telling them how to end run it, and how to deal with it.

02:09:43.000 And he's the guy that's getting editors fired.

02:09:46.000 Well, then he moved to Canada, probably arranged through Environment Canada and the Assistant Deputy Minister here.

02:09:53.000 And he got into more funding in Canada.

02:09:57.000 Then he moved to NCAR, where they just had a big retirement party for him, attended by all the CRU people and all of these gangs.

02:10:05.000 And so much of the funding was going through NCAR in Boulder, Colorado.

02:10:10.000 And, in fact, a lot of the funding going to the CRU was from there.

02:10:14.000 So these guys were controlling the government funding that was going to perpetuate the bad science.

02:10:21.000 Meanwhile, what they were doing was then being used.

02:10:25.000 The IPCC reports then became the documents of faith for governments around the world, pushing the whole carbon and energy agenda.

02:10:35.000 Yeah.

02:10:40.000 I mean, I don't know how they're so arrogant.

02:10:43.000 I mean, I guess they've got all the banking money, all the power on their side.

02:10:47.000 They're brainwashing all the kids in the schools.

02:10:49.000 I mean, it is a serious wound to them, though, that ClimateGate now looks mild compared to all the other fraud coming out.

02:10:57.000 But they run the government that would prosecute them, and George Soros is saying, we're still going to do it.

02:11:02.000 And the Austin City Council says, we don't care if it wrecks Austin.

02:11:06.000 We are going to put a $2.6 billion tax in the next three years just to build all these grids and tear out the, and they say they're going to put a huge 20% tax on everybody's natural gas.

02:11:20.000 Yeah, well, you know, one of the things that has gone on with this is, as I said, using the science base, the false science, but what's come out so far is only the tip of the iceberg, and I don't want to sound cute with that comment, but I know, having watched them create this fraud for over 30 years, and how they commandeered climate science, I know that there's a lot, lot more to come out yet.

02:11:49.000 I mean, it's just a bunch of criminals, all making money off of it, and they're all a bunch of eugenicists, population reductionists.

02:11:55.000 Let's talk about that, and how they're taking over the states.

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02:16:15.000 with Debra Medina on and others.

02:16:18.000 You know, we have this article, cap-and-trade scam to be enforced at state level.

02:16:22.000 Individuals and businesses in Austin and a plethora of other states to be taxed for emissions on life-giving gas, carbon dioxide, and everything else.

02:16:29.000 That's... Read the whole article, get it out to everybody you know in every major city so you know what's happening.

02:16:36.000 They call it green jobs.

02:16:37.000 It has nothing to do with that.

02:16:39.000 Here's Bloomberg.

02:16:40.000 States to lead carbon markets as federal plans stalls.

02:16:43.000 Bloomberg.

02:16:44.000 In fact, give me a document cam shot here.

02:16:47.000 States to lead carbon markets as federal plans stalls.

02:16:50.000 Right there.

02:16:52.000 We have the other article here, which has a direct link to the City Council, saying $2.6 billion just to launch the program.

02:17:02.000 And again, for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, there's the Bloomberg article.

02:17:06.000 Here's, energy plan comes to City Council as legislature plans review.

02:17:10.000 How can the city be run by foreign private corporations?

02:17:13.000 Austin Energy unveils carbon calculator at Expo.

02:17:17.000 They're putting in the smart thermostats in your houses without asking you.

02:17:20.000 They say they're going to control the temperature in your house.

02:17:23.000 California's doing it.

02:17:25.000 Obama laughed at, after calling climate change evidence overwhelming, Dr. Tim Ball, top climatologist, who's been persecuted by these people.

02:17:34.000 I mean, this is total financial feudalism.

02:17:38.000 This is total domination.

02:17:40.000 Canada, where you live, is even worse.

02:17:42.000 You've already had multiple states up there past this.

02:17:45.000 I mean, it's devastated Spain, and they love it.

02:17:50.000 Well, you know, the province that I live in, British Columbia, on the West Coast here, and one of the problems that I have with Canada is we've got more oil and energy and resources than virtually any country in the world, yet we're paying top prices.

02:18:05.000 It's unbelievable.

02:18:07.000 It's like paying restaurant prices for food in your own home.

02:18:10.000 And one of the things in British Columbia here is that we were the first province, jurisdiction in North America, to introduce a carbon tax.

02:18:20.000 And what's annoying about it is that the Premier, before he got elected, he attended a presentation that I gave and said afterwards, I want to talk with you and get you to talk to my environment minister.

02:18:34.000 And that never happened.

02:18:35.000 Then the next year, after he'd been elected Premier, he heard me talk again and said, did you meet with him?

02:18:40.000 And I said, no.

02:18:41.000 He said, I'll make sure it happens.

02:18:43.000 The meeting was held in his office.

02:18:45.000 And he said, I can't stay for the meeting, but I want to make sure the meeting occurs.

02:18:49.000 And then, what happens three years later?

02:18:53.000 Suddenly, he's introducing a carbon tax, and they're putting a billion dollars of taxpayer money into all of these absolutely useless schemes to combat climate change.

02:19:05.000 And I discover who's behind it all?

02:19:07.000 Andrew Weaver.

02:19:09.000 And who's Andrew Weaver?

02:19:10.000 He's the lead author of the chapters on the computer models of the IPCC.

02:19:15.000 And he got a hold of the government, convinced them.

02:19:18.000 And when you read the government documents, the absolute Bible, again, is the IPCC.

02:19:25.000 Now, Weaver, by the way, being the weasel that he is, has just come out and said, oh, well, you know, there's problems of process with the IPCC, and we need to relook at how we're handling the science.

02:19:38.000 Well, he's one of the rats deserting the sinking ship.

02:19:43.000 And by the way, on screen, we have the Austin Energy Calculator.

02:19:51.000 It's similar to what Enron did.

02:19:53.000 Secretary of the Army White ran it before he went to the Army.

02:19:56.000 They had fake computer models to show people how they didn't have any energy, so they had to triple and quadruple, in some cases even more money, and then it turned out it was all just a made-up scam.

02:20:06.000 They're just seizing our energy and saying they're going to jack up our prices, and they make little fake computer graphics for the morons.

02:20:14.000 Well Alex, the carbon credit thing, there's been so many scams with it already.

02:20:18.000 I mean, for example, when they first introduced it at the international level, that is trading between nations, they very quickly discovered that Germany and Turkey were cooking the books.

02:20:32.000 That they were deliberately giving false information about the CO2 that they were producing as And India and China won't even sign on and don't have to, meaning all our jobs will go there.

02:20:43.000 Exactly.

02:20:44.000 And so they already have the scam going.

02:20:48.000 And one of the things, by the way, and I talked earlier about the tip of the iceberg, what people don't know is that the statistics on the amount of CO2 that humans are producing globally, and the current figure is given, I think it's about 7.5 gigatons, that number is produced by the IPCC.

02:21:08.000 They're cooking that number as well.

02:21:10.000 But even with that number, they say humans are 3-6% of carbon dioxide increase.

02:21:16.000 Now, you ask yourself.

02:21:16.000 Right?

02:21:18.000 First of all, they say, oh well, they get the basic number from each country.

02:21:21.000 How many countries in the world know exactly what CO2 they're producing?

02:21:25.000 No, they just make it up.

02:21:27.000 Dr. Tim Ball, stay there.

02:21:28.000 Long segment coming up.

02:21:29.000 Let's get into a chronicle of all their fraud, not just ClimateGate, and where they're going, and then a little bit more about how they're taking over in your town.

02:21:37.000 You'll hear it's green jobs and, oh, some windmills.

02:21:41.000 That's just the window dressing.

02:21:43.000 It means carbon taxes and carbon trading ripping you off.

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02:25:31.000 Alright, I've got a bunch of Twitter questions for Dr. Tim Ball.

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02:28:43.000 Okay, moving quickly now before I get to the Twitter questions for Dr. Tim Ball.

02:28:47.000 Sir, let's get into the fraud because any one of these stories, and it's got to be more than 10 of them in the last week, Scandals dwarfing ClimateGate, but all complimenting and proving ClimateGate even more.

02:29:02.000 You know, the red-handed emails of fraud.

02:29:03.000 I mean, it is just mind-blowing.

02:29:06.000 And as you said, this is all based on a fraud.

02:29:09.000 Dr. Tim Ball.

02:29:10.000 Well, yeah, it's based on the theory or hypothesis that CO2 is causing climate change, warming and then climate change.

02:29:20.000 And, of course, this is what the problem they got into.

02:29:23.000 They chose that vehicle.

02:29:25.000 And then, of course, what they had to do was to make sure that the science proved what they were claiming.

02:29:33.000 And that goes completely against the normal scientific method.

02:29:37.000 A scientist creates a hypothesis, then other scientists try to disprove it.

02:29:41.000 What they've been doing is trying to prove it.

02:29:44.000 And, of course, every time somebody asks a question, like myself, they either have to fudge the data to give a false answer or silence the person that's asking the question.

02:29:56.000 And they haven't hesitated to do either of those, as you and I have discussed.

02:29:59.000 And one of the things that was set up at the Climatic Research Unit was a website called Real Climate.

02:30:07.000 And they talk about it in the emails, how they were the goons, they were the hit squad that covered the backs of these guys that were creating the lies and covering the falsehoods.

02:30:19.000 And of course then they also got into the problem that once they convinced, once they as bureaucrats For example, Hanson at NASA GISS, once they convinced the politicians and the politicians had put their political career on the line, then they were on the treadmill even more.

02:30:35.000 They had to keep falsifying the data even though evidence continued to come out that the science was completely wrong.

02:30:44.000 But now a lot of the top scientists who have even been supporting this are coming out and saying, I guess it is okay to have a scientific debate.

02:30:52.000 That is the scientific method.

02:30:55.000 Well, exactly, but one of the things that's very interesting about this, and I wrote an article in Canada Free Press a little while ago about it, and that is the degree to which these people were able to bully individuals and powerful people at corporations and, you know, governments.

02:31:13.000 Because they had the government purse strings!

02:31:17.000 I know for example in Canada, they would put out documents and of course the Canadian public have a much more, a much greater faith in public, in government stuff than Americans do.

02:31:29.000 You've got a healthy disrespect for government, which is great.

02:31:32.000 But, yeah, they could use the taxpayers' money to lie to them.

02:31:35.000 And so, but they got on this treadmill.

02:31:39.000 But what's gradually happened, of course, and now all those scientists that were bullied into silence, and I can't tell you how many that spoke to me, Alex.

02:31:48.000 I remember government employees gave a presentation after this.

02:31:53.000 They said, we agree with you, but we're afraid to say anything.

02:31:55.000 So that's why this is imploding so badly for them now, is so many people were tired of being bullied, more stuff's getting leaked literally every day, devastating them more and more.

02:32:06.000 So what do you think they're going to do as all the fraud just mounts, it already has, to just completely biblical proportions?

02:32:14.000 What are they going to do, just rebrand it and keep stealing?

02:32:17.000 Well, the first thing that's going to happen is already happening, and that is they're appointing, they're doing the old phony thing of, oh, we'll have a The Warren Commission, or the 9-11 Commission, or...

02:32:31.000 And as I think we might have talked about, I've served on these commissions, and I realize that they're the perfect vehicle for politicians to avoid an issue, to push it aside, because while the commissions, they say to the media, well, I can't talk about it until we get the report.

02:32:47.000 But what I found out with the very first commission I was on, that the terms of reference that they wrote meant that I couldn't possibly reach to get to the truth.

02:32:57.000 Well that's like the 9-11 Commission said, we know 19 hijackers did this and all we're doing is recommending what should be done and that was pure police state.

02:33:08.000 It's in the terms of reference that this is how they control these commissions.

02:33:12.000 The commission looks like it's nice.

02:33:14.000 Oh, it's its arm's length.

02:33:15.000 No, we're not controlling it.

02:33:16.000 But, in fact, we're controlling it through the terms of reference.

02:33:19.000 And the classic story, when they asked Judge Warren about the Kennedy assassination, he said, well, what about the Mafia in Dallas?

02:33:27.000 He said, well, that wasn't in my terms of reference.

02:33:30.000 And bingo, I knew exactly what he was saying.

02:33:33.000 And because I'd gone through that.

02:33:36.000 But they look like they're good things.

02:33:37.000 Now what they're setting up in Britain, they're doing one, they've already appointed somebody to look at the climatic... And he's one of the top global warming people!

02:33:47.000 This is part of a continued cover-up, and so that will be the first thing.

02:33:54.000 But as the leaks and as the information come out, and what's interesting with this, Alex, is you look at the Pew Center poll that came out recently, where it showed that in a list of 21 concerns, global warming was the very dead last.

02:34:09.000 And it was only a concern for 28 percent of the people.

02:34:13.000 And yet the politicians are ignoring that, in the same way that they—you know, you see it in the U.S., the anger amongst the people about what's going on, and yet it's being ignored.

02:34:26.000 The politicians are not listening to the public voice.

02:34:29.000 Now, one of the reasons that's gone on is because the politicians were terrified that somebody was able to say, oh, well, you don't care about the environment.

02:34:39.000 You don't care about the children.

02:34:40.000 This was the emotional blackmail that went on.

02:34:43.000 And Michael Crichton wrote about this in his book State of Fear.

02:34:47.000 how they used this to manipulate the politicians.

02:34:50.000 And the only politician in the world that had the guts to stand up was Vclav Klaus of the Czech Republic.

02:34:59.000 And he said this is a criminal takeover of all the resources by a new Soviet.

02:35:05.000 Well, exactly.

02:35:06.000 And I remember listening to him in New York at the first World Conference of the so-called skeptics.

02:35:13.000 And he said, we've gone through 70 years of communism.

02:35:16.000 Why the hell would you want to go back to that?

02:35:19.000 But now they repackage it as loving liberalness, but it's the big banks financing it because they want a controlled market.

02:35:26.000 Government, absolute government, can give them absolute monopolies.

02:35:30.000 I want to throw out questions to you from some of the Twitter people, because we have the new Twitter account, twitter.com forward slash realalexjones.

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02:35:43.000 Somebody wants to ask you about the polar shift and the elites using this control on us.

02:35:49.000 I mean, I know they admit they have some tectonic weapons, they claim they have, but I don't think there's any proof that they could cause a polar shift, but we do know that naturally happens, and I've read reports that the polls have been moving lately more than they had previously.

02:36:04.000 The magnetic pole rotates in a circle over a period of time around the true pole.

02:36:11.000 And yes, there was a fairly rapid movement of it.

02:36:15.000 I think about 10 years ago it was centered in King William Island in the Canadian Arctic and it's been tracking south.

02:36:23.000 But the rate of that movement of that pole is variable.

02:36:28.000 That's a normal wobble.

02:36:30.000 So when the media says, oh my God, the pole's moving, that's normal?

02:36:33.000 Yeah.

02:36:34.000 Now, what is important is, and I raised this before a parliamentary committee 20 years ago, and I did it sort of tongue-in-cheek at the time, trying to explain to them how science works with hypothesis.

02:36:46.000 We know the strength of the Earth's magnetic field has been weakening for about a thousand years.

02:36:52.000 And some people think that this is heading towards a polar reversal.

02:36:57.000 That is, the magnetic poles literally flip.

02:37:00.000 So the South Pole becomes the North Pole magnetically, and vice versa.

02:37:04.000 And I raised it, as I said, tongue-in-cheek at a parliamentary committee, saying, look, I can stand up here all day and create scary scenarios.

02:37:13.000 Which one are you going to deal with?

02:37:15.000 because you've got to set some priorities here.

02:37:18.000 And this is part of the game that's being played, by the way, and how the fear distorts the priority list.

02:37:24.000 What about the U.N. a few days ago?

02:37:27.000 First Danny Glover, now UN spokesman saying global warming caused the plate shift that caused the earthquake in Haiti two and a half weeks ago.

02:37:36.000 I mean, I'm no climatologist, but I mean, I've read the science.

02:37:39.000 No one has ever said that the atmosphere is in any way a driver of tectonic plates floating around on the mantle.

02:37:50.000 The only way that there can be any possible connection is that the atmosphere creates the winds, and the winds drive the ocean currents at the surface.

02:37:59.000 But they don't drive the deep ocean currents.

02:38:02.000 And you can get situations where water can pile up in a particular area because of the wind patterns.

02:38:08.000 But those are relatively constant.

02:38:11.000 But when we're talking about movement of the tectonic plates, we're talking about movement within the mantle of the Earth, that is, underneath the crust.

02:38:18.000 The bottom line is, I mean it's ridiculous, I mean am I right?

02:38:22.000 It's ridiculous, it's literally out of left field, to say earthquakes are man's carbon dioxide and cows farting.

02:38:31.000 It's absolute rubbish.

02:38:32.000 And as I said, we could spend all day creating these kind of scary scenarios, and you know, which ones are you going to deal with?

02:38:40.000 This is part of the issue, of course Alex, you see, is they're saying, oh we've got to create a risk-free world.

02:38:45.000 It never was a risk-free world.

02:38:47.000 Well, I mean, now they've shifted, because it's not global warming, now they admit it's getting colder, to climate stability.

02:38:55.000 Everybody knows climate changes constantly.

02:38:58.000 Look at the dinosaurs, what they lived in.

02:39:01.000 I mean, it's just asinine.

02:39:04.000 Yes, this is part of the reason they've got away with it, and we might have talked about this briefly once before, but the Western view of the world is that change is very gradual over long periods of time, and that's a fundamental assumption that was made in order to accommodate Darwin and evolutionary theory and so on, and it was done by a geologist by the name of Charles Lyell.

02:39:24.000 It's called uniformitarianism.

02:39:26.000 That's built into the way that the public are educated That's why they believe that we were only hit every million years or so by a mega asteroid.

02:39:34.000 Now that they're studying the other planets, they go, no, looks like it's every 300 years on average.

02:39:39.000 We're going to get hit by something really big.

02:39:42.000 You've got the public believing that change is very gradual over long periods of time.

02:39:46.000 It allows them to say any change which is occurring naturally, oh that's not natural.

02:39:52.000 So what they're doing is they're telling you that natural events are unnatural and of course that means they could never be wrong and tomorrow there's going to be more natural events.

02:39:59.000 But I mean look at volcanoes blowing up on the Aztecs and the Romans and the Greeks and the Japanese.

02:40:05.000 I mean there's constantly asteroids hitting and earthquakes and floods.

02:40:10.000 I mean this is normal.

02:40:12.000 And when you start to plot out, for example, they're saying, oh, there's more tornadoes and they're more severe.

02:40:18.000 When you look at the record, that's simply not the case.

02:40:20.000 And in the U.S.

02:40:21.000 They just got better radar to record them all now.

02:40:23.000 Well, that, and also, there are more people out there to see them.

02:40:28.000 But one of the things in the U.S., for example, the worst loss of life to tornadoes in the U.S.

02:40:28.000 OK?

02:40:34.000 was in 1905.

02:40:38.000 Look, look, that's why all these farmhouses in Texas and Kansas and Oklahoma and Illinois have got storm shelters in them.

02:40:45.000 Exactly.

02:40:46.000 But as I said, this idea that they can present to you that normal change is not normal, and therefore if it's not normal, that automatically equates to, oh, it must be something that humans are doing.

02:40:46.000 Exactly.

02:41:00.000 Alright, and this is the common denominator.

02:41:02.000 Oh, it's always got to be the blame of humans.

02:41:05.000 And you see Osama Bin Laden, oh, it's the Americans causing global warming.

02:41:10.000 Okay?

02:41:11.000 Every time you look at any of these things, it always comes back to it's something that humans are doing that are causing these natural... But I mean, look how ridiculous that is!

02:41:20.000 AP says, we don't even know if this is Bin Laden, but the news is saying it's him.

02:41:25.000 They might as well have the Cheshire Cat say it.

02:41:28.000 You know, I was on a radio program a few years ago, and afterwards they showed me on the computer, they played my voice.

02:41:36.000 Now, voice recognition and the computer printing that out is old hat.

02:41:40.000 There's nothing new.

02:41:41.000 But then they could take individual letters out of the words I had spoken, make up new words, and the computer would say that in my voice.

02:41:47.000 And electronically, you wouldn't know that wasn't me.

02:41:50.000 And there's a lawsuit, I believe it's still in the courts now, where they want to produce Elvis singing songs he never sang in his lifetime.

02:42:00.000 And by taking individual notes out of it.

02:42:02.000 Exactly, they could fake video, audio, but they were so lazy they didn't even do that.

02:42:06.000 Quickly, some more.

02:42:07.000 There's no way of knowing that it, I think Osama Bin Laden is dead.

02:42:10.000 He's got liver, he's on dialysis.

02:42:15.000 I don't, you know, and $25 million award.

02:42:20.000 You haven't heard a word about anybody trying to get that.

02:42:23.000 Now, Dr. Ball, we're going to come back in the final segment and I want to go over a few of these other questions.

02:42:28.000 Like, how much of an increase in taxes do middle class people due to the global warming hoax?

02:42:34.000 And you can answer that as a Canadian.

02:42:36.000 Also, we've got another question.

02:42:39.000 Can you get into how a mild warming is good for farms and how cooling cycles are the abnormality in real change?

02:42:46.000 I don't know if that's the case.

02:42:48.000 I think change is the constant.

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02:46:39.000 Got a few final questions for Dr. Tim Ball.

02:46:42.000 In the last minute of the show, cue it up to Kramer talking about the Illuminati.

02:46:45.000 We have all these shows talking about the Illuminati, the New World Order, Bloomberg comes out and says secret Kabbalah bankers run the planet.

02:46:51.000 That's on Infowars.com.

02:46:54.000 The Kramer clip's up there.

02:46:55.000 It's insane.

02:46:56.000 Dr. Tim Ball, why do you think they're just coming out with everything now and just throwing it in our face?

02:47:02.000 Well, in the sense of, you know, BS baffles brains, I guess.

02:47:08.000 You know, if you throw enough information out there, people get so confused they tend to turn off from it.

02:47:14.000 And that's been one of the issues with the whole climate issue.

02:47:17.000 Because, for example, Alex, I would not participate in debates.

02:47:22.000 Not that I was afraid of a debate.

02:47:24.000 But if I debated with a Greenpeace person, it was all about emotion and pointing fingers and not caring and all that rubbish.

02:47:33.000 But if I debated with a scientist, then it was completely over people's heads.

02:47:38.000 And one of the problems with this whole climate issue is people say, look, I'm lost here.

02:47:44.000 I'm so confused.

02:47:45.000 And I'm hearing this on one side and that on the other side, and I don't know enough.

02:47:49.000 Well, bottom line, we've caught these people in fraud.

02:47:51.000 It's over.

02:47:52.000 Dismantle it.

02:47:53.000 Don't let them pass it in Austin or anywhere else.

02:47:56.000 This question about increased taxes on the middle class.

02:47:58.000 We know $200 billion in the last 20 years has been spent in the U.S.

02:48:03.000 alone pushing this propaganda.

02:48:07.000 Anything that puts a tax on energy is going to be the perfect vehicle for a politician to grab taxes.

02:48:16.000 I look at it, we talked earlier about the 3% carbon tax that was put on here in British Columbia.

02:48:24.000 It is generating huge amounts of revenue because it isn't just on the energy, the production of the energy and distribution of it at your gas pump, where so much of it goes to taxes.

02:48:37.000 But that then passes down into every single thing that's produced.

02:48:41.000 It is completely pervasive throughout the whole production part of the society.

02:48:46.000 And then they want to sell derivatives that are taxpayer-backed for the bankers, Last question here.

02:48:51.000 I got a question here saying, isn't mild warming good for the earth?

02:48:58.000 most vicious attacks when I wrote an article saying, look, there are some positive things about warming.

02:49:03.000 And the idea that warming is only negative has been one of the biases that they've pushed.

02:49:10.000 Cooling is the greater threat.

02:49:12.000 And we've seen this historically, the Little Ice Age back in the 16th and 17th century.

02:49:19.000 And look at the conditions during the pandemic.

02:49:20.000 Have a great weekend.

02:49:21.000 Thank you for your tireless fight in the face of all their intimidation and threats.

02:49:24.000 You've been proven right.

02:49:25.000 God bless you.

02:49:26.000 And food production, absolutely.

02:49:28.000 Cooling is a much greater threat.

02:49:30.000 And yet we're preparing totally for warming, and it's just ludicrous.

02:49:34.000 Dr. Timbole, we're out of time.

02:49:36.000 Have a great weekend.

02:49:37.000 Thank you for your tireless fight in the face of all their intimidation and threats.

02:49:40.000 You've been proven right.

02:49:42.000 God bless you.

02:49:43.000 Have a great weekend.

02:49:43.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:49:45.000 Take care.

02:49:46.000 He writes for Canadian Free Press, another great publication.

02:49:48.000 Just Google Dr. Tim Ball.

02:49:49.000 Alright, close out of the show.

02:49:52.000 Here is Kramer on Mad Money talking about the Illuminati.

02:49:55.000 Here it is.

02:49:57.000 This is AIG, AIG, Goldman, Goldman, and you know what?

02:50:01.000 The Bavarian Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission, Goldman Sachs, and the Queen of England are not all bad.

02:50:06.000 Wow.

02:50:06.000 We've got to squeeze a couple of things in here.

02:50:08.000 Sure.

02:50:09.000 Alright, first of all, let's do this one.

02:50:12.000 Apple.

02:50:12.000 This iPad.

02:50:14.000 Right.

02:50:14.000 See that?

02:50:14.000 Well, look, I've got to tell you.

02:50:15.000 Apple, buy an iPad.

02:50:17.000 That's good.

02:50:18.000 You want an iPad?

02:50:18.000 I will go and throwing it to wait 60 days in our face.

02:50:21.000 Throwing it in our face.

02:50:27.000 Constant little comments like that.

02:50:29.000 Back Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.

02:50:30.000 Retransmission starts now with Dean Haglin, Bob Chapman, Big News Blitz.

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02:50:40.000 Thank you for listening to TPN.

02:50:41.000 Great job, crew!

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