Andre Van Heerden, the producer and director of the hit film, Shadow Government, joins Alex and Alex to discuss the film and the book that it s based on, "Shadow Government" by Grant Jeffries.
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00:01:41.000For the balance of the hour, Andre Van Heerden, the producer and director of the hit film Shadow Government, joins us along with the author of the book that the producer and director of the hit film Shadow Government, joins us along with the author of the book that it's based on
00:02:04.000He's a documentary maker, author, film producer in his own right, a leading film and documentary producer out there.
00:02:14.000And, of course, I was honored when they reached out to me to see if I wanted to carry the film or endorse it.
00:02:19.000And this is the best-selling film we've got next to my documentaries.
00:02:23.000And that's the market speaking that the people are really impressed with this.
00:02:47.000It's got J. Edward Griffin and so many others.
00:02:50.000And it's really waking people up because it's not just the naked body scanners that are going in or the cell phones tracking us or the RFID.
00:02:57.000This has been globally agreed to by the UN.
00:03:35.000I mean, you wrote the book, Grant Jeffrey.
00:03:37.000Break down what the shadow government is, why you have that title, and in a nutshell, what's being built, and then let's go through the film and break down the information in it.
00:03:47.000Well, I believe, as a result of twenty-some years of research, that we are very, very close to the imposition of a global government That none of the citizens of the Western world, in terms of a majority, want.
00:04:01.000Every time people have been asked if they want global government, the vast majority love their nation, their history, their culture, language, and they want to keep their things as they are.
00:04:13.000The global elitists that desire global government, they know that the only way to introduce this is by stealth.
00:04:20.000And they have found that they can go around the U.S.
00:04:23.000Constitution, which is one of the major impediments.
00:04:28.000Constitution were brilliant men that were very afraid that America needed to stay out of European entanglements and wars, and they made the Constitution very hard to change.
00:04:40.000But the lawyers in Congress found that there was a loophole.
00:04:44.000That according to the Constitution, if there is an international treaty signed by the President and 67-plus Senators, that takes precedence over the U.S.
00:04:56.000And so they began using treaties like the World Trade Organization in 95 signed by Clinton, a 2,000-page treaty that effectively robbed the United States of its economic independence and trade policies.
00:05:11.000Only one senator out of a hundred, Alex, actually read the treaty.
00:05:16.000Most of them have a one, eight and a half by eleven page summary.
00:05:20.000And based on that, the vast majority of them voted for this, which effectively put America's hands in handcuffs.
00:05:29.000Economically, they cannot respond to unfair trade practices, for example, from China.
00:05:35.000Otherwise, all the other nations will retaliate.
00:05:38.000America, though it's the leading economy in the world, has the same voting power as Haiti or Uganda.
00:05:44.000So we're outnumbered by people who do not share our Free enterprise policies are pluralism of religion and politics, etc.
00:05:54.000The next thing is these global elitists.
00:05:57.000Think of themselves as global citizens.
00:05:59.000They no longer think of themselves as Americans or French or German.
00:06:04.000They, I'm not suggesting that they're all evil individuals, but rather they believe that in a world with 200 plus sovereign nations and weapons of mass destruction that are widely available, inevitably they will be used and there will be a third world war and genocide.
00:06:22.000The only solution they can think of is a global government that would eliminate nations and their ability to go to war.
00:06:29.000Which just so happens to be authoritarian and I was playing in the background for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers a short clip of a census worker coming up and marking your GPS point on your home.
00:06:39.000I mean, the film covers the big picture.
00:06:43.000That's what's so powerful about it, and it's got great actors.
00:06:47.000I mean, the whole thing is illustrated where people can really get an idea of what's happening.
00:06:52.000Well, yes, I think that we were able to convey with Andre's help and direction the real truth that what is happening behind the scenes is our politicians are ceding our national independence, our constitutional independence.
00:07:07.000These people believe that global government is the solution to avoid a third world war as one of their motives.
00:07:14.000You and I both know that the history of the planet shows that civil wars are by far the worst type of war, whether the American Civil War, whether we look at the Russian Civil War.
00:07:25.000And there's going to be civil wars against this global government because it's authoritarian.
00:07:28.000Even in the words of the Financial Times of London, they endorse an authoritarian system.
00:07:33.000Meanwhile, the globalists always hand out weapons to other countries and actually stir up the conflicts.
00:07:38.000And internal memorandums like State Department memorandum 200, they talk about starting wars to reduce population.
00:07:47.000I agree they have a lot of useful idiots that support them at the governmental and academic and corporate level, believing in the propaganda.
00:07:55.000Right, and what I point out in both the documentary and the book, with very ample source citation, There are three major groups.
00:08:04.000The Bilderberger group, who call themselves internally the Alliance.
00:08:08.000Primarily European, royal, as well as multinational leaders.
00:08:12.000Incredibly wealthy people who want world government.
00:08:16.000Then you've got the group, the Council of Foreign Relations, that is primarily American, with about 3,000 members.
00:08:23.000And then you have a trilateral commission that was formed by Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski, his security advisor, back in the 70s, which basically has representatives from both Asia and from Europe and from North America.
00:08:40.000Absolutely are aiming toward global government by stealth, by international treaties, and by other means.
00:08:48.000These individuals have set an agenda which they know the public does not support, and so they're introducing it step by step without people being fully aware that we're ceding our national independence and our representative government.
00:09:02.000I really point out that the European Union, with 27 nations, Is really an executive commission of appointed individuals who make decisions behind locked doors and the so-called European Parliament is nothing more than a high school debating society because all the power is exercised by 27 appointed people and there's no remedy.
00:09:54.000My listeners are aware of this true global architecture, and of course the film covers that, but you also break down how they plan to implement their control and surveillance over the population.
00:10:05.000We're going to go to break in a moment, but I want to go to Andre Van Heerden, the director and producer for a moment.
00:10:12.000What do you think is most important in the film Shadow Government, the masterpiece that you've produced?
00:10:17.000I have to say right off the top that when I approached this topic and was talking to Grant, I was approaching it as a skeptic.
00:10:24.000I was looking at a lot of the stuff about the conspiracy theory.
00:10:27.000I didn't believe a lot of it was true.
00:10:28.000I thought there was nuggets of truth maybe buried within it.
00:10:31.000But as I started doing the research and working with Grant and looking at his book and started interviewing the various people you mentioned, some Dr. Kasson Albrecht, Daniel Estulin, Richard Griffin, Edward G. Griffin, sorry, the information that was coming out and the evidence, the support evidence for all this, the documentation for all this, made it No, implicitly clear that this was true.
00:10:58.000That's what's so frustrating is they're announcing world government on the nightly news and then next they cut to the Southern Poverty Law Center saying these Tea Party people are dangerous, they're delusional, they believe in a global government.
00:11:09.000And what you just said is the most striking thing about the documentary is that if you don't believe in it, suddenly you look at the headlines of your newspaper and exactly what the documentary is talking about is right there.
00:11:36.000That's what makes it so scary and so true.
00:11:38.000And then you look at the research of the terror attacks in the U.S.
00:11:42.000and other countries, and you find out the NSA, every time, bare minimum, knew exactly what was happening, and let it take place, like the case of the underwear bomber.
00:11:51.000Again, this surveillance cuts two ways.
00:11:54.000We'll be right back with the makers of the film Shadow Government.
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00:16:35.000Well, one of the aspects that makes Shadow Government a reality
00:16:40.000Is that not only do you have this very deeply held agenda by these globalist groups, which, by the way, as an example, the Bilderberg Group, during the 2008 election, back last summer, a year and a half ago, they invited both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to their secret meeting in Virginia, just north of Washington.
00:17:06.000And in knowing that one of them, within seven months, would be taking their inauguration as President of the United States, taking an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, domestic and foreign.
00:17:20.000And yet, they were invited to attend a secret meeting which they don't talk about.
00:17:26.000Part of the rules of the Bilderberger and the other two groups are what's called Chatham House Rules, which mean that no one who goes there by invitation only is allowed to quote anything that is said or identify who said it.
00:17:40.000And they were invited to go to this secret meeting, and the planners of that meeting definitely want to bring America down in both its economy, its military, and politically.
00:17:55.000You can't publicly say that, and China is the new model where they give tax incentives and everything else to move all our industry over there, and we've got all the phony environmentalists calling for a global government run by the very banks that meet at Bilderberg Group meetings, saying that we will pay our taxes directly to them.
00:18:13.000From your research, Mr. Jeffrey, there's no doubt, certainly in my mind, but I want to know from your research, that we are now entering the final phase of open world government.
00:18:22.000Absolutely, and I found an interesting document that you might find interesting, Alex.
00:18:27.000This document was written by the Council of the Club of Rome, and it was published in 1993 in a booklet called The First Global Revolution, and in fact is on the Internet.
00:18:43.000It says, quote, In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, meaning the globalists, We came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming and water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill.
00:18:57.000In their totality and their interactions, these phenomena do constitute a common threat which must be confronted by everyone together.
00:19:05.000All these dangers are caused by human intervention and natural processes.
00:19:10.000It's only through changed attitudes and behaviors that they can be overcome.
00:19:14.000The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.
00:19:19.000Because that means that back in 1993, the globalists identified man's natural love of Earth and the environment as a way to achieve their real goal, which is an incredible socialistic control of nations, companies, and individual activity, and to also achieve it on a global level and do it by stealth, appealing to something which they would emphasize and exaggerate so that people would
00:19:49.000We're willing to take any type of restriction whatsoever and taxes to achieve saving of the planet.
00:19:55.000And this is the underlying real motive that I have found in the research that I have been doing that is pushing the exaggerated danger of global warming.
00:20:05.000And they chose carbon dioxide, the life-giving gas, because that's what humans exhale.
00:20:10.000And now we have video from just two weeks ago of Bill Gates saying, here are humans, they put out carbon dioxide, we have to get rid of at least half of them.
00:20:23.000Ted Turner, Prince Philip, Prince Charles, the head climatologist at NASA says the global taxes are meant to destroy our industrial economy.
00:20:32.000I mean, this is a very dangerous group who have control of the issuance of currency and credit, and they don't want a free market.
00:20:42.000They want us poor and under their control, and they proposed three months ago at Copenhagen a global one-child policy.
00:20:49.000And that's why shadow government is so important, because it shows we are under a global shadow government, now coming out of the shadows.
00:20:56.000Through the G20, announcing that later this year, early next year, they're going to set up a global constitution of the banks, the private central banks, setting up a global government publicly, even above the UN, that we will pay our carbon taxes to, and it's here!
00:21:15.000And we have to warn people, and that's why the film Shadow Government is so important.
00:21:18.000We've got a long segment coming up, so we won't have these interruptions.
00:21:21.000When we come back, I want to get The director and producer's take on what we're discussing, Andre Van Heerden, and of course we've got Grant Jeffrey on the line with us, the writer of the book that this became a film, also the host of Shadow Government.
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00:26:23.000Okay, going back to Andre Van Heerden and of course Grant Jeffery.
00:26:28.000Andre, again, I've heard this story a million times.
00:26:32.000I mean literally, just callers, emails.
00:26:35.000People think we're making this stuff up.
00:26:38.000They think that Catherine Albrecht's making it up, or G. Edward Griffin, or Daniel Esselstyn in your film, until they actually look at the statements and publications of the government, of the elites, and what's being built.
00:26:50.000I mean, what was the process like for you?
00:26:52.000You get approached, because you're already a successful filmmaker in your own right, The author of the book that this film is based on, Grant R. Jeffrey, and, I mean, what was the process like?
00:27:08.000You thought it was conspiracy theory at first.
00:27:10.000How long did it take you to have a crash course in reality?
00:27:14.000Actually, it's a bit of a backward scenario for us.
00:27:17.000We had worked with Grant Jeffery 15 years ago on a documentary called Final Warning, which looked at a lot of the same things in Shadow Government.
00:27:25.000Now, very tellingly, 15 years ago, when we produced Final Warning, and we were talking to the cast and the crew, and when we were marketing it, we kept being told, well, you know, this stuff isn't really true, and so what if someone's watching me?
00:27:50.000Everything that we had said was going to happen in Final Warning has already happened, faster than we thought was going to happen.
00:27:56.000And now, when we're producing Shadow Government, everyone's paying attention.
00:27:59.000So, we were aware of Grant's book, Shadow Government, and thought, you know what?
00:28:04.000We're a feature film company, we're best known for producing the Left Behind series of films, but we wanted to get back to our roots of doing a documentary, particularly because of this title.
00:28:15.000And so we actually approached Grant and said, we would like to do the documentary for your book.
00:28:20.000Thankfully, Grant said yes, and we had a good relationship before, and really kind of dove into it.
00:28:26.000And I was planning to pull out the nuggets of truth, things that we could verify.
00:28:33.000I'm a former journalist, and so I'm always looking for background sources.
00:28:37.000So, you know, backup sources so I can say, yes, no, this is true.
00:28:40.000Now, the very best source of information is what you call an antagonistic witness.
00:28:44.000Someone who is not on your political side, someone who doesn't really like where you're going with the information, yet they will confirm what you're saying.
00:28:52.000Well, you go to the UN documents, you go to the Council on Foreign Relations documents, you go to the very source, Well, let's cut to the chase.
00:29:16.000The public is now ready to receive this information because we're so deep in this system now.
00:29:23.000But imagine what Hitler or Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot would have done with a cashless society.
00:29:30.000The power it gives the system to track everything you do, to be able to turn your card off, to turn your biometric scan off, to record your naked body in the body scanners and have a 360 biometric scan.
00:29:43.000Let's break down from your research what a totalitarian system can do once they fully get us on a cashless system, which they're now moving towards demonizing cash.
00:30:07.000Well, we're already about 98% cashless, and there are some northern European countries where cash It is really seen as an anachronism.
00:30:16.000For example, I have a computer ring called an iRing.
00:30:21.000It has a computer chip inside it with a credit, and you rather than pay for a subway, a train, a bus, you just simply touch that iRing that you wear as a ring, or you can have like a key fob on a child's book pack, and you just touch it to the screen, and instantly they withdraw the amount of money.
00:30:40.000But now there's a complete computer record of how long you were on that subway, Who else was in that subway car with you?
00:30:47.000And the tracking technology that comes with this type of technology is phenomenal.
00:30:53.000For example, after 1948, the English-speaking victors of World War II, Britain, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, decided to do something that had never been done before in intelligence.
00:31:06.000Well, they still have the James Bond cloak and dagger spies.
00:31:10.000They created a new type of system which would be an electronic vacuum cleaner that would listen and record on hard drives every single radio and telephone conversation, every fax, then with the introduction of personal computers, every email, and now all of your internet surfing.
00:31:29.000Because it's so vast, there's obviously not enough human listeners to monitor this stuff, and frankly, they're not interested in your conversation discussing, you know, yesterday's movie.
00:31:40.000But what they do is they use the tremendous computer technology, the cheapness of hard drive memory to store everything just on spec.
00:31:52.000And so they record every phone call, even the voices, and then they use deep data mining to instantaneously a trillion of calculations per second to look for key voices, addresses, names of weapon systems or names of individuals.
00:32:07.000And that's 25 years old with the echelon keyword, But it's a lot worse than that.
00:32:12.000They now admit that they're able to predict off your cell phone travel where you move, patterns you have, up to 93%, it's actually much worse, and to literally begin to predict mass movements of society and predict the future and test their propaganda on the media and see if people are buying it in their private emails, phone calls, and it's all crunched into giant graphs and data.
00:32:36.000And then if they want to zoom in and say, have your recorded voice, they then have computer programs that can copy your voice.
00:32:43.000Now, most of the toll roads, you don't pay with a swipe or even a tracker chip.
00:32:58.000And in states like California, Over a million government bureaucrats, police and others are exempt from the license plate camera tickets and things and are literally above the law.
00:33:11.000So we also, as one of the Rockefellers told Aaron Russo, we cover this in my film Reflections and Warnings, they said, look, we're all going to have a chip.
00:33:18.000And my chip will say, basically, I'm above the law because I'm an elitist.
00:33:35.000I mean, it's just, it's an absolute class system.
00:33:39.000Well, you're right, Alex, and one of the things the natural person who's an innocent, law-abiding, Christian, church-going person would say, well, look, I live an honest life.
00:33:49.000I do not break the law if you don't count speeding, and therefore, why should I really be worried, even if what you're saying is true?
00:34:04.000That's not only that, but let's say, while they're recording all this stuff, and, you know, no one's really personally listening to this, it's all going into the computers.
00:34:13.000But let's say your son applies for a high security position with the military, the government, a bank.
00:34:19.000Then, and at that point, they then go back and look at his family and friends and associates, and they do an instantaneous search of all the communications.
00:34:29.000Well, Alex, if I know all of your phone calls and your emails, and I know all of your internet surfing, I know more about you than your spouse or your parents.
00:34:38.000Because by our internet surfing, we reveal our religious, political, sexual preferences, we reveal our... the books we read, the magazines we're interested in, we reveal our whole life.
00:34:50.000When we expose our internet surfing, I talk about these social networking sites, the sites that are out there, Facebook and Twitter, and I point out that young people especially
00:35:02.000You know, a girl, for example, I used the illustration, a 16-year-old girl tells her 57 best friends on Facebook about this wonderful Christmas romance with a 22-year-old college senior, and they had underage sex and underage drinking, perhaps some illegal substances, and she thinks nothing of it.
00:35:23.000Six years later, she's going for the dream job of her life.
00:35:27.000And all of a sudden, they don't call her back anymore because as a final thing, Human Resources went back and did a check.
00:35:34.000And once you put something on the internet, or in an email, or in a phone call, it cannot be erased.
00:35:40.000It's a computer data shadow that will follow you the rest of your life.
00:35:44.000And let's expand on that, because you're now hitting at the very heart of it.
00:35:47.000And that's what shadow government covers and why it's so important.
00:35:52.000The air marshals, the head of their union in Colorado came out and said we're ordered every month with a quota to put innocent people on a list to create the illusion of security threats to get more funding.
00:36:06.000If a five-year-old takes a photo with their camera or an old woman does it or you order a vegetarian meal there's over a million, two hundred thousand people on the no-fly list.
00:36:17.000They're now saying they want to put You can't buy a gun.
00:36:21.000If you're on the no-fly list, they have these criminal databases.
00:36:25.000There's all sorts of corruption of the data.
00:36:27.000They've been caught putting fake data into the systems.
00:36:31.000And there's no judge, no jury, no review.
00:36:33.000You can't find out why you're on the list.
00:36:35.000This is an incredible discriminatory system.
00:36:39.000But, oh, they've got you all worried about, let's not profile people with turbines to then sell everyone being violated and discriminated against whenever they want because the corporate Borg beast machine says so.
00:36:52.000And then meanwhile, the NSA can also track when good cops, good military, good police Are aware of government drug dealing, child trafficking, sex trafficking, money laundering.
00:37:04.000It comes out they use NSA to actually block real investigations of the Global Corporate Crime Syndicate.
00:37:10.000So this is the criminal's surveillance network to make sure they stay safe and no one gets on to them or no journalist ever gets on to them.
00:37:20.000One of the most amazing things that's happened in the last few months, Alex, is that on December 17th, the President of the United States signed an executive order which has the force of law, which immunizes Interpol, the international police organization representing 157 nations, including such wonderful supporters of law such as Russia,
00:37:44.000And this organization can now operate inside the borders of the United States to arrest people, to do rendition or anything else.
00:37:54.000And it is no longer subject to congressional oversight nor to a judge's order.
00:38:03.000And therefore, Interpol, for reasons that no one can explain to me, because Interpol has never asked this of any other nation before, why Interpol should be allowed this immunization against American courts or congressional investigations.
00:38:19.000Yeah, they're given diplomatic immunity.
00:38:20.000And under diplomatic immunity, all these groups have been caught.
00:38:27.000I mean, this is, the global government is run by criminals.
00:38:30.000And, I mean, do you get my point, that this is actually their, it's not just to surveil us, it's to protect themselves, and to find out who's good in government and who's bad, so they can promote the bad people.
00:38:41.000Well, I'll point out that even in a dangerous world in which obviously our governments would be remiss in their responsibilities if they did not try to use technology to find the terrorists and find the criminals, etc.
00:38:56.000However, such incredible power, unprecedented in human history, a population surveillance system that Hitler or Stalin would have given their left arm for, cannot be able to operate with impunity and immunity And the watchers need to be watched by a genuine democratic oversight, but that, in fact, is not happening.
00:39:19.000And now they're expanding it with a cyber security takeover.
00:39:22.000Run through the film, going to the director and producer.
00:39:26.000Run through the film in somewhat of a chronological order, just the basics that people will discover and learn in it.
00:39:34.000There are four main sections, and it's great the way they all kind of interrelate.
00:39:39.000The first section is really looking at surveillance technologies, new surveillance technologies, how you're being monitored, how you're being tracked.
00:39:47.000And we give lots of examples of what's currently in place, what is just on the drawing board, what is coming down the line towards us.
00:39:54.000And it gives great evidence, great examples of all that sort of technology and what's Around today, we asked a few of the people, if you want to live off the grid, if you wanted no one to be able to track, monitor things that you're doing today, what would you have to do?
00:40:08.000And every single one basically answered, you'd have to live naked in the forest.
00:41:42.000But the issue here is if we can give this message to Christians, who are the majority of this nation, that will be a powerful force to say no to this big brother that's bad for everybody.
00:41:57.000And even if you don't believe in God in all this, and some people are deceived and foolish, no one can disagree that all this surveillance is being used to hurt people and to control And we know now that the establishment's coming out with all the surveillance and admitting more of it because they've already gone way down the road past what we even know they're currently doing.
00:42:18.000And so the Federal Circuit Court, 9th Circuit, two weeks ago ruled police can search your house without a warrant or probable cause.
00:42:26.000There's all these other rulings against freedom.
00:42:28.000They now want to come out with all the surveillance and openly use it in court.
00:42:33.000And so that's why they're having rulings for warrantless wiretapping of citizens.
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00:46:56.000Other parts of the film people should be made aware of and why they need to get it?
00:47:01.000Well, I was just saying off air to you, Alex, that We had some people come over to our house.
00:47:07.000They were parents of some of the friends of my daughter.
00:47:11.000And they were interested in, you know, my work and things like that, and mentioned that we'd done this documentary called Shadow Government.
00:47:18.000And they were immediately interested because they can see it, as I said, in the headlines.
00:47:21.000They can see it all around in their daily lives.
00:47:22.000They know they're being monitored and tracked and are obviously interested in how that affects their lives.
00:47:28.000But, you know, at the same time, they didn't know that the part of the theme was Bible prophecy.
00:47:33.000And oftentimes, when you're talking about Bible prophecy, people will kind of look at you a little differently than they had before.
00:47:39.000And so we started playing it, and it got through the opening, which is very gripping.
00:47:44.000It immediately dives right into it, and there's this dramatization that shows, you know, this everyday guy going through his life and what's happening to him.
00:47:52.000And so then I stopped it, and they all turned to me, and there was about eight of them, all said, don't know, we want to see more, we want to keep going.
00:47:57.000And it was like, this is at a dinner party.
00:48:01.000And they were fascinated, and suddenly they were asking questions, which is a wonderful opportunity to share just about anything, because now they're interested in that information.
00:48:13.000That's how you unlock their mind to see the wider world.
00:48:17.000And as the Bible says over and over again, the people perish for lack of knowledge.
00:48:24.000And if we can give people the knowledge, they know something's wrong.
00:48:27.000But when they see shadow government, they really start understanding just how serious this is.
00:48:34.000Comments from Grant Jeffrey on that point.
00:48:37.000Well, one of the things that I point out in my book, my book, and refer to it in the documentary, is in addition to the rather secret but also partly an open conspiracy plan by the global groups to achieve global government and destroy the constitution of free countries like Canada, the United States, there's another aspect and that is the practical preparation for what is called continuity of government.
00:49:04.000In this world in which there are weapons of mass destruction and the dangers from both terrorists as well as nation states, any government that does not prepare for the worst would be very, very irresponsible and foolish.
00:49:16.000For example, during the inauguration a year ago, one member of the Cabinet, the Defense Secretary, Robert Gates.
00:49:24.000He was in an underground city north of Washington, in Mount Weather, where he was designated to take over the presidency of the United States if the worst happened and the Capitol disappeared with the Supreme Court and Congress and the President.
00:49:38.000And governments have to prepare and think this way in such a world, and so one of the things that we noticed as a Canadian observer watching the 2005 Katrina disaster was the absolute appalling lack of organization and preparation by FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which has now become part of Homeland Security.
00:50:01.000And what I discovered and documented in the book, Shadow Government, is that 96% of the entire $30 billion budget of FEMA was in fact used not for natural disaster relief efforts like Katrina, but was designed for continuity of government with secret bases scattered throughout the United States, Thank you for listening to GCN.
00:50:23.000and equipment, backup computer records for every part of the functioning of government so that if the worst ever happens, they can take over.
00:50:31.000But this, together with the desire, produces global government.
00:50:50.000One major world crisis away from having a totalitarian type of system.
00:50:56.000The main event is the wholesale destruction of the world economy.
00:50:59.000The push for every nation on the globe to identify and number all of its citizens.
00:51:04.000Friends, I hope that you will order Shadow Government from Infowars.com.
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00:52:14.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:52:18.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:52:25.000We are back live, ladies and gentlemen, final segment with our guest, the Declan McCullough of CNET News, former head of CBS, person for the CBS News website, formerly Washington's top correspondent for Wired Magazine.
00:52:41.000He'll be breaking down the control grid coming up with us in the latest on cyber security.
00:53:38.000Throughout the world, dictatorships and tyrannies use their continual government system to circumvent the Congress or the Parliament or the legislative system.
00:53:49.000And as you see in the film Valkyrie, a true story about adolf hitler and uh... attempts on his life by parts of the german high command they use the cotton government program to try to take hitler out well it can be the reverse of that they can use content of government to take out congress uh...
00:54:08.000by uh... you got it was saying terrorists did it and then bringing in the world government This is a very dangerous system, and Congress back in the 80s had hearings about how this could be used to take over the legitimate government.
00:54:20.000So there's an amazing danger here, and we know what they're doing with all the surveillance.
00:54:26.000We have the internal homeland security documents that the main focus is Christians, conservatives, libertarians, patriots, returning veterans, gun owners.
00:54:36.000We're the number one enemies of the globalists.
00:54:38.000Absolutely, Alex, and I think most Americans ...are woefully ignorant of the fact that under the U.S.
00:54:46.000situation, the Constitution never even had a mention of something called executive orders.
00:54:54.000Yet executive orders now have been published, and some of them are still secret, that have the force of congressional law, and few Americans realize that the President, by the stroke of a pen, can suspend Congress.
00:55:08.000They cannot even vote on it for six months.
00:55:11.000And the President can seize all transportation, all civilian labor, all weapons, all energy, in fact, all financial institutions.
00:55:22.000And what we're seeing in the takeover of the one-fifth of the U.S.
00:55:27.000economy and the health care system after the takeover and control of Wall Street and the bankers and General Motors,
00:55:33.000Is that increasingly the government is manifesting a desire to not move in a free enterprise, capitalistic way, but in a managed society with central planning, so that they will, using a variety of pretexts, including the environment, global warming, etc., are literally moving toward a point where they'll tell you what kind of car you can drive, what kind of car will be available, what the thermostat must be set at, and they are creating a propaganda base
00:56:03.000Where people are willing to accept these unbelievable restrictions on our freedom.
00:56:08.000They're turning us into a prison planet.
00:56:20.000for an hour and a half, two hours in about two or three weeks, so we can open the phones up and get into more of what you were just now discussing.
00:56:28.000You guys are really on the ball, and I'm very impressed with what you've done, and I'm honored that you reached out to me to promote the film and sell the film, and I look forward to speaking to you both in the near future, gentlemen.
00:56:39.000Thank you for coming on with us today.
00:56:41.000And next time they're on, we'll talk more about other work that they've done together.
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01:00:08.000Declan McCullough, he's been coming on the show for close to a decade.
01:00:17.000Was the senior correspondent for CBS News website.
01:00:22.000He's one of the head guys over at CNET News.
01:00:25.000He's written for Wired Magazine as their Washington bureau chief.
01:00:30.000He, of course, Also has written articles for the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy.
01:00:39.000He just goes on and on, Playboy Magazine, you name it.
01:00:44.000And he's one of the leading experts on the full spectrum of what's happening with the Internet, surveillance, cybersecurity, shutdowns of websites like Cryptome, all these calls for censorship that are going on.
01:00:56.000So we're really honored to have him with us for the next 40 minutes or so.
01:00:59.000We're going to have Jason Burmess at the 33 After pop in briefly.
01:01:03.000With the actual cybersecurity house bill that passed to go over some of the subsections with Declan McCullough for all the PrisonPlanet.TV viewers and of course the radio listeners.
01:01:12.000Declan, it's great to have you here with us.
01:01:39.000It's a computer security company with the same name.
01:01:42.000And yesterday, you had a White House advisor, Obama's cybersecurity coordinator, called Howard Schmit, speak there about a secret cybersecurity directive that's in effect and is now a little bit more public. - And you've been at some of these meetings recently. - Yeah, there's, well, let me talk about yesterday's speech.
01:02:09.000This is Howard Schmidt, who's the White House cybersecurity coordinator.
01:02:14.000And the background is that two years ago, President Bush signed a secret cybersecurity directive It's known as NSPD 54, or National Security Presidential Directive 54.
01:02:30.000The government acknowledged that it exists, but the text has never been made public.
01:02:36.000You had Michael Chertoff want to call it a Manhattan Project for the Internet.
01:02:44.000It's a multi-billion dollar fund for it as part of a classified intelligence budget.
01:02:50.000I've heard numbers like 30 or 40 billion, which is huge.
01:02:56.000And also, one component of it is a network monitoring component called Einstein, which is aimed at monitoring people who go to federal government websites, but there have been concerns about how far that monitoring by the Einstein program goes, and also whether that would be expanded to Well, remember the Cash for Clunkers program?
01:03:17.000You would go to the Cash for Clunkers program and there'd be a message, the federal government has taken over your computer.
01:03:44.000But there's an interesting thing about this.
01:03:48.000Yesterday, if you go to whitehouse.gov slash cybersecurity, you'll see a three-page or five-page summary of this secret Bush-era directive.
01:04:01.000And the summary says that Obama basically supports what President Bush is doing on cybersecurity, so this is not something that's And that's not a surprise.
01:04:13.000He's basically continued everything Bush has done.
01:04:15.000There's not a whole lot of bay light between them on many, many, many issues.
01:04:26.000But on cybersecurity, the interesting thing is that at one point says that We want to expand the Feinstein program to involve the National Security Agency.
01:04:39.000And of course, this is the same NSA that was engaged in warrantless surveillance and might still be engaged in warrantless surveillance.
01:04:47.000And the second point is that Homeland Security wants to, quote, extend its cybersecurity into critical infrastructure.
01:04:56.000And that basically means the Internet, because nowadays the government uses the Internet Yeah, I mean, I have the bill and coming up in 15 minutes we're going to go over it with you, but it talks about going into all of the internet service providers that they have to have a licensed person that's federally approved, that they're going to track what everybody's doing, that you have to basically have their software initiatives in middle school, high school, college, creating an army of cyber security warriors.
01:05:25.000We know the government's surveilling people without warrants.
01:05:27.000They're tracking Well, we can talk about cell phone tracking if you want to change topics.
01:05:43.000This is actually probably more interesting than cybersecurity, but let's continue.
01:05:48.000So the interesting thing about the cybersecurity plan is the potential for NSA monitoring or Homeland Security slash NSA monitoring of the private sector.
01:06:01.000And you had, when this was Bush, and when this was the Bush administration running things at DHS, you had a lot of complaints from members of Congress.
01:06:12.000This is probably a partisan issue, but you had folks like, let's see, You had Barack Obama running around screaming bloody murder about the Patriot Act and warrantless surveillance, and then now that he's in power, he's reauthorized it.
01:06:32.000I won't dig into my notes, but let me just state this as facts from memory.
01:06:40.000Back when the Bush folks were doing this, the Democratic Congress was yelling about, you know, there's not enough information about the secret directive.
01:06:49.000Who knows what Einstein is going to do, and maybe this is their privacy issues, and let's just put the brakes on this whole project, if not slowing it down completely.
01:06:59.000And now that it's the Obama administration renewing what the Bush folks started, and actually even saying nice things about Bush in the document that the White House posted on the White House.
01:07:11.000The White House.com slash cybersecurity yesterday, you do not hear any yelling from the Democrats in Congress.
01:07:17.000Maybe it'll happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
01:07:38.000But then if you read the bill they've passed in the House that's now in the Senate, I mean it's incredibly draconian and you've had cyber security people come out and say it's the Pentagon and Air Force and NSA.
01:07:51.000Basically overtaking the internet and putting in the type of snooping hubs they put into the telecommunications systems after the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
01:08:01.000So we do know quite a bit of what's going on.
01:08:05.000But do we have any idea of what the secret directive is?
01:08:12.000We only have a few hints from administration members both Bush and Obama saying that this is the single largest request for funds in last year's classified intelligence budget, for instance.
01:08:26.000The single largest request for funds in the NSA and the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency and all these other black organizations The single largest request funds, this is a lot of money, folks.
01:08:38.000And we know virtually nothing about it.
01:08:41.000All we have is a very vague summary, and we don't even know if the summary adequately represents what's in the entire document.
01:08:48.000I mean, it only might cover 10% of the secret NFPD 54 directive, for instance.
01:08:55.000And so, basically, we have a little bit of, we have a tidbit or two from the White House, but we don't have very much information to go on.
01:09:01.000Most of it is still secret and classified.
01:09:05.000You know, the biggest classified funding request they put out in the last year.
01:09:13.000But separately, we saw congressional hearings two years ago about censoring conspiracy theories and other criticisms of the government on the web.
01:09:21.000We see Cass Sunstein, the regulations are, writing public papers saying basically, you know, restrict criticism, restrict global warming conspiracy theories, that it isn't man-made.
01:09:33.000Climate Gates, a conspiracy theory, even when it's admitted.
01:09:37.000And he talks about cyber armies out posing as alternative media to cause infighting, COINTELPRO type stuff.
01:09:46.000So I'm, I mean, we know they've got CENTCOM and others out blogging and writing their own reports and countering quote disinformation on the web.
01:09:54.000So I think a lot of evidence points towards this is massive funding, not just for the snooping and control grid, But also as a way to put more boots on the ground in cyberspace, pushing the establishment line.
01:10:12.000I mean, look, if you're going to defend the federal government network, I mean, what this means is it's the same thing that, say, you know, Google.com or Yahoo.com have to deal with all the time.
01:10:25.000People trying to break into the servers and read your Gmail or Yahoo mail.
01:10:30.000And you don't need to make how you defend against that secret.
01:11:00.000Separately, I mean, we have the secret copyright treaty that was leaked a few months ago.
01:11:07.000And in that, they're talking about using all these snooping systems, like John McCain said five years ago, to go in and basically kill your computer.
01:11:17.000And this was actually, your memory is good.
01:11:20.000I think this was actually, it was a bill introduced by Senator Hollings, and maybe McCain was a co-founder, it was a CBD PPA, and that did include these kind of kill switches and kill chips inside computers, and this was being backed by and that did include these kind of kill switches and kill chips inside computers, and this was being backed No judge, no jury, no proof.
01:13:01.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
01:13:06.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
01:13:09.000As we're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
01:13:15.000Tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
01:13:21.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
01:13:26.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
01:16:23.000We're going to have Jason Bermas in the studio in a moment for about five minutes to go over some of the cybersecurity subsections.
01:16:29.000But let's shift gears now, Declan, into all these calls for Internet censorship.
01:16:34.000Then we'll get into cell phone tracking that you've been reporting on.
01:16:37.000I mean, we're seeing the New York Times call for a kinder, gentler, gate-kept Internet, phasing things over to Internet 2, making you have a license to get online, WebID, worse than Communist China.
01:16:55.000There have been calls for something akin to an internet driver's license for as long as I can remember.
01:17:00.000I remember sitting in a, I think it was a House of Representatives Rayburn building steering room in 1998 when Louis Freeh said, you know, it would be something, it would be nice to be able to attract people online and we could do Do something like this that might also deter fraud, and more authentication, and security, and all these wonderful words.
01:17:23.000But what it amounts to is more surveillance and limiting anonymity.
01:17:27.000And we know from even the Supreme Court, which is not always a great protector of civil liberties, that acknowledged in the McIntyre case, I think that was a 1994 case, that Americans do have a right to remain anonymous.
01:17:47.000How do you reconcile the right to remain anonymous with the idea for an internet tracking system or driver's license system?
01:17:54.000We heard another mention of this curb on anonymity yesterday here in San Francisco when the White House of Cyber Security's Howard Schmitz said it would be nice to do something like that.
01:18:09.000I don't think it's really going to go anywhere just because of the tremendous technical difficulties.
01:18:13.000If the government could have controlled the way the Internet developed from early on, it would have been pretty easy for them to do.
01:18:22.000But unfortunately for them, folks thought online, millions of people were using it before they came up with this great idea of an Internet driver's license.
01:18:30.000I think, technically speaking, it's not going to work.
01:18:35.000The point is, though, they're proposing it.
01:18:37.000Are you familiar with Cass Sunstein's calls to censor the internet and put taxes on people that criticize the government?
01:18:44.000I've read some pieces that he wrote a few years ago.
01:18:49.000He seems to be someone who... Let me back up.
01:19:00.000I think that he would usher in a more regulatory approach to things, perhaps more taxes and less anonymity.
01:19:09.000But then again, the nice thing is that he is not in a position to do much about it.
01:19:14.000He has the regulatory reserve, but what this basically means is not pushing regulations, but slapping them down.
01:19:19.000He more has a veto power as opposed to something that he proposed it.
01:19:26.000Bottom line, we've seen Australia call for Chinese-style net censorship.
01:19:30.000We've seen Italy calling for licenses to get online, passing a bill to do it or to upload video.
01:19:37.000Why do we see governments I don't know if you agree with this, but I clearly see it.
01:19:42.000Calling for more and more controls over the internet, is it because mainstream media and government mouthpieces are being more and more challenged by the growing power of the internet and alternative news?
01:19:54.000I've seen reports in the last week that we finally passed that number where there's more people getting their news from the web than from traditional news sources.
01:20:03.000I should say that my employer, Sina.com, is owned by CBS Corporation, and I've spent over a year writing for CBSNews.com.
01:20:14.000This is a challenge for the mainstream media, and I guess I'm sort of at the fringes of it here, because unless we adapt and remain relevant to try to actually publish stories that are free from bias and that are true, honest, and accurate, our readers are going to flee to the Internet.
01:20:32.000And if that happens to us, then we deserve it.
01:20:35.000But to respond to your broader point, there's...
01:20:40.000I mean, governments don't like what they can't control.
01:20:45.000And they don't like people doing things that are unlicensed.
01:20:50.000I think that the bureaucrats that inhabit Washington, D.C.
01:20:54.000would be pleased to license every single person for any reason in any occupation, including journalists and radio broadcasters, if they could get away with it.
01:21:03.000And of course, once you're licensed, and your license comes up for renewal, if you piss off the relevant government entity, then, well, you may not have a job anymore.
01:21:26.000Things are getting worse, they rarely get better.
01:21:28.000We're going to get briefly back into the cyber security bill and whether or not, what form it will pass, the House or Senate version.
01:21:35.000The Senate, it appears, is even worse.
01:21:37.000Then we're going to shift gears into other surveillance that most concerns you and the latest developments on cell phones and things like Google's Buzz as well.
01:21:48.000We'll be right back with Declan McCullough of CNET News.
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01:24:26.000All of the republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
01:24:39.000And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
01:24:42.000Today, it seems like nobody does care.
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01:24:59.000Next hour, I'm going to break down the demonization of the tea parties.
01:25:11.000The media is saying that they're terrorists about to strike.
01:25:15.000Meanwhile, Rick Perry was swept back into office, an unprecedented third term, by posing as a Tea Party person.
01:25:23.000So you have the Republican leadership in some areas mimicking it, other Republican leadership attacking it, the Democrats attacking it.
01:25:29.000We're going to decode all this in the next hour.
01:25:33.000Declan McCullough, writer and editor over at CNET News, one of the preeminent news websites out there covering all things technology and internet.
01:25:45.000I mean, there's so many other things I want to cover with you, but briefly, I wanted to get Jason Bermas, who's been here with us the last year, working on his new film that's going to be out April 15th, and of course that is Invisible Empire, New World Order Defined, but Jason has gone over the cybersecurity bill, and I wanted Jason Bermas to just briefly read over some of the subsections to Declan McCullough and get his take on it, then we're going to cover the latest Other things that Declan's most concerned with.
01:26:14.000Well, one of the most alarming things in this bill, outside of the FCC takeover, outside of the non-profit organizations they will prop up as front groups, is Section 12, Federal Cyber Scholarship for Service Program.
01:26:30.000Now, earlier you were talking about all high school and college students.
01:26:38.000Now, this is grabbing the kids out of schools.
01:26:40.000Absolutely grabbing the kids out of school.
01:26:42.000Subsection 4 shall provide a procedure for identifying promising K-12 students for participation in summer work and internship programs that would lead to certification for what?
01:26:53.000Federal Information Technology Workforce Standards.
01:26:57.000And it says that anybody later in there that's going to work with any IT related stuff has to have this government certification.
01:27:08.000Out of the realm of things to get worried about, I'll be more worried about active surveillance and tracking and monitoring.
01:27:16.000I don't get as alarmed about this bill, but this is an area where reasonable people can But I think this is where they're coming in and engineering the society and creating the industry of surveillance and control.
01:27:31.000They're spending a lot of money, hundreds of billions of dollars on surveillance and control.
01:27:37.000And yet another example, I don't see why we need the federal government to spend this much money.
01:27:44.000I think it's something like The agencies already spend $6 billion a year on cybersecurity and about a third of a billion of dollars on research.
01:28:45.000Let's move into how they're creating a cybersecurity advisory panel.
01:28:50.000They'll have real-time cybersecurity dashboards where everything will be watched and monitored.
01:28:55.000They want to do this regionally as well.
01:28:57.000They want to make sure that the infrastructure is not only federalized, Alex, but it's in your local and state government.
01:29:02.000And they say they give it, sections of it, to private corporations and then you have all these sweetheart deals.
01:29:07.000It's like Chertoff, you know, making the order for the body scanners and then he gets money from it.
01:29:13.000I mean, isn't this also a big boon to the military industrial surveillance grid where they get to make all these big profits off cyber security?
01:29:38.000I mean, maybe eventually we'll be on Earth.
01:29:42.000There's also the secondary question of You know, if these people are conducting surveillance or watching the dashboard, and I'm not as familiar with the bill as Jason, I've skimmed it, but I haven't actually written about it.
01:29:59.000The folks who are running or monitoring the dashboard, I'm not familiar with the bill as Jason, but I haven't actually written about it.
01:30:07.000If we could, these people were paragons of virtue, the platonic ideal of civil servants that could be trusted perfectly, then maybe it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
01:30:18.000But the problem is that civil servants, bureaucrats, are human, they have flaws, the surveillance programs are abused, and who's going to watch the watchers?
01:30:32.000Well, you talked a lot about standardizing software, so I want to read that subsection as well.
01:30:36.000This is section 6, and we're putting this all under NIST, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, that we both know have been corrupt in the past.
01:30:47.000The Institute shall establish standard configurations consisting of security settings for operating system softwares and software utilities widely used in the federal government by government contractors and grantees and in the private sector owned critical infrastructure.
01:31:04.000But everything to them is critical infrastructure.
01:31:06.000Then they define critical infrastructure, any IT, down to anybody that has a company that serves 100 or more.
01:31:12.000In fact, they have special, they will, this is in subsection 6, right here, make loans on a selective short-term basis of items of advanced cybersecurity countermeasures to small businesses with less than 100 employees.
01:31:25.000They're going after everybody, big and small, to get this grid into place, Alex.
01:31:31.000I want to finish up with Declan McCullough from CNET News.
01:31:34.000Let's have you back in the last 15-20 minutes of the show to go through that subsection by subsection because I've covered it a few months ago, you covered it a few weeks ago.
01:31:42.000We need to go back over this because this is getting ready to probably pass the Congress.
01:31:45.000Declan McCullough, any word on when this could pass?
01:31:50.000I think it passed the House in early February.
01:31:52.000But, you know, a lot of things pass the House and die in the Senate.
01:31:55.000I wouldn't say the odds are very good it will not become law this year, but in part that also depends on whether this becomes a controversial piece of legislation that people are actually calling their Senators about or not.
01:32:10.000I don't know whether that's going to happen.
01:32:11.000Okay, we've got about eight minutes left with you.
01:33:11.000The Supreme Court has not yet ruled on this.
01:33:13.000And it depends in part on whether the courts are going to say that the Fourth Amendment applies, that is the Constitution.
01:33:21.000A reasonable expectation of privacy and unreasonable purchase of t-shirts applies.
01:33:27.000Uh, there's, uh, the Bush administration made the argument that warrantless tracking is perfectly okay, and the Obama administration has made exactly the same argument.
01:33:36.000Uh, DOJ is saying that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no reasonable expectation of privacy in their cell phones' wearabouts.
01:33:43.000And this is an important issue, because your cell phone is a radio transmitter and a receiver.
01:33:47.000Uh, wherever, um, it talks to radio towers, and through triangulation, or through GPS, the radio towers get out of pretty good idea of where you are.
01:33:54.000And now cell phones are becoming your briefcase, your calendar, your wallet, everything in computers, as you know, but for some of the audits that may not know, is going into cell phones.
01:34:05.000They are now, like my iPhone, is just a little mini laptop.
01:34:10.000And so they're saying you have no privacy in your own home business or your own corporate business.
01:34:19.000Now, regular airports inside the country are seizing people's laptops, phones without, and they put a ruling out two days ago on this, without any perception that you've done anything wrong.
01:34:40.000Let's put tracking aside for the moment and talk about examining your cell phone, which is really more of a privacy threat in some ways because your cell phone knows more about you than maybe your closest friends do.
01:34:52.000It knows where you're going to be for your calendar.
01:34:57.000It knows who you've been emailing with and all that.
01:35:00.000It's basically like a diary and probably even more personal than your laptop nowadays.
01:35:06.000And so this is another unresolved legal issue.
01:35:10.000When police arrest you, and maybe you're not charged with crime, maybe you're just detained, maybe you're at a protest and you're arrested and released an hour later without any charges being filed, can they look at your cell phone?
01:35:24.000Can they plug it into their police computer and copy over all the content?
01:35:28.000The court, on this one as well, the Obama administration and many local prosecutors in the Bush administration, their answer is that warrantless searches are perfectly constitutional during arrests.
01:35:40.000And I covered a hearing about two weeks ago in San Mateo County Court just south of San Francisco, and the judge said, yep, not a problem.
01:35:53.000Well, I saw that in the Ninth Circuit two weeks ago and the dissenting judge was the Chief Justice of the Ninth Circuit.
01:36:00.000He said there's no more Fourth Amendment.
01:36:02.000The police went in this guy's house with no expectation or no idea he committed any crime.
01:36:07.000I mean, it's just they're blasting past the Fourth Amendment and I think people are just too calmly accepting this.
01:36:13.000This presses hedge of the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
01:36:17.000Well, you know, is there for a reason?
01:36:19.000And every time governments go over that edge, they slide all the way to the bottom.
01:36:25.000The courts have, um, it's almost like the Bill of Rights has become, uh, the word lawyer has become untethered, um, from its actual language.
01:36:35.000Court interpretations don't really track what the Constitution says, in many cases.
01:36:42.000There are I mean, you had the Supreme Court yesterday in the Second Amendment case, the McDonald's case.
01:36:49.000Unfortunately, it wasn't there, but I read the transcript in its entirety, and you had all the blocks of liberal justices saying, well, we may have to extend the Second Amendment to the states.
01:37:04.000Both states can't infringe your right to keep and bear arms, but we'll make it a really weak right that can be infringed on any time the state government Exactly!
01:37:13.000This is being billed as a pro-gun ruling, the one a year and a half ago, and now the new one, because we haven't seen the ruling yet, but they're making noises from the court watcher's perspective, and they're saying, you got a right, and the right is, we can take your guns.
01:37:30.000The bad thing is that, you know, you have a right, but it's a really weak right.
01:37:35.000Maybe you can keep a single, or maybe a 12-gauge single-shot shotgun in your house, but you can't actually ever leave the house.
01:37:45.000I mean, you can imagine, you have the right, but the right is so small, it may as well not even exist.
01:37:50.000And he didn't have any justice, unfortunately.
01:37:52.000Not even, say, Justice Scalia, talking about the actual text of the Second Amendment, which is, it shall not be infringed.
01:38:02.000Well, we know what the founders said, we know what the state constitutions say, we know what the common law practice of the second amendment is.
01:38:08.000It's Vermont style, open carry, and they started out in the sixties, oh, let's stop felons, and all that did was make the felons safe to rob and rape the public in Chicago and New York.
01:38:20.000And, yeah, I've been reading the text of what the Supreme Court justices were saying in these arguments in the last few days, and it's very clear they're going to rule yes, states, You do have to extend some right, but as you said, that's a right for us to basically restrict your Second Amendment.
01:38:38.000So you have a right, but we have a right to restrict it.
01:38:41.000And so they're saying, oh, for the first time the Supreme Court's going to say you have a right.
01:38:45.000For the first time they're saying you don't have a total right, and it's just unbelievably evil.
01:38:50.000We've got Larry Pratt on about that tomorrow.
01:38:53.000In the last minute and a half, Declan McCullough Other areas, other areas of surveillance and tyranny and corruption that you're reporting on that people should be made aware of?
01:39:02.000Here's one that actually combines the internet and the phone, right?
01:39:08.000So, Palo Alto is a city where Stanford University is.
01:39:11.000It's about maybe 40 miles south of San Francisco.
01:39:14.000And you may have actually covered this.
01:39:17.000There was one of the police detectives in East Palo Alto Uh, apparently posted a note on Facebook threatening to kill anyone if he found openly carrying a handgun.
01:39:28.000Even if that person's carrying it perfectly legally, this is open carry.
01:39:40.000Even under California law, Sacramento hasn't gotten around to restricting this yet.
01:39:43.000It's generally legal for California residents to carry handguns openly as long as they're unloaded.
01:39:48.000But this fellow Rod Toulassan, who is a detective, said, well, if someone doing that would have pulled the AR out and thrown them all out, and if one of them made a furtive movement two weeks off, which is a reference to two weeks of death duty, if an officer discharges a weapon.
01:40:05.000And so I talked to the Palo Alto police captain about the Facebook.
01:40:10.000Not reflective of our department of policies, but then again, you know, it was a personal webpage, and I'm not really defending the officer, but he thought it was a personal webpage, so, like, let's not really get too worried about it.
01:40:19.000But it shows their attitude, and now we have the ATF seizing $30,000-plus of not even BB guns, rubber pellet toy guns, and then now I have news articles today where they're defending it saying, we want the federal government to pass laws restricting toy guns.
01:40:35.000I mean, they're arresting kids who draw a picture of a gun at school now.
01:40:39.000I mean, they're acting like guns in the hands of common slaves is like the ultimate evil.
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01:43:01.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
01:43:06.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
01:43:10.000As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
01:43:15.000Tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
01:43:21.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
01:43:27.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
01:46:11.000We know where the future of this country is going and the globalists have their way.
01:46:15.000I wanted to get some into the economy right now.
01:46:17.000I keep hearing the media out of one side of their mouth say it's gotten great, out of the other side saying it's fallen apart with record joblessness, factories shutting down, government growing.
01:46:26.000I have articles like USA Today, New Ghost Towns, industrial communities teeter on the edge.
01:46:31.000Gold hits six-and-a-half-week high, went up to $1,141.70.
01:47:47.000And if you do buy that one coin, you will get a full year subscription to the International Forecaster, which will give you the information you need to make sense of this crazy environment that we're in, of course.
01:48:33.000And that's what Bloomberg and others are saying.
01:48:36.000They're saying it's probably going to go to $1,160.
01:48:40.000If it goes past that, they're saying the sky could be the limit.
01:48:43.000Yeah, that's when you get past your $1,220, $1,240 like we did last time around.
01:48:48.000And of course, the only thing standing in the way of that is that the dollar is closer to 80 than it is to 70.
01:48:55.000The euro has already taken the dip, and they've already seen the market peak out to a level that it's never seen before in Europe and also Britain.
01:49:03.000So, what's the case here with the United States?
01:49:06.000I think that the United States dollar is in as much trouble as the euro, and I'm sure that gold will reflect that.
01:49:13.000And that's because all these currencies are being lowered and valued in a coordinated fashion by the G20, and they're now Economist, ABC News, another financial crisis on the way.
01:49:25.000But don't worry, the Nobel Prize winning group calls for stronger financial reforms, higher taxes, more money to the bankers, or we'll end up like Greece.
01:49:35.000We saw the leader of the Democratic Senate talking about that yesterday.
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01:52:55.000The most important news, after I cover some other information, that I'm going to really spend the lion's share of the time on is, The ADL, the Southern Poverty Law Center, they are demonizing Bachman of Minnesota, Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, myself, but really a lot of mainline conservatives.
01:53:17.000And implying that we're dangerous terrorists, that we're going to strike, that we're going to attack.
01:53:23.000And Paul Watson has written an article detailing how the FBI, the Southern Poverty Law Center and others were involved with McVeigh.
01:53:32.000They're using crises, staged crises in many cases, to demonize their opposition.
01:53:40.000And they're trying to demonize the only real opposition to their new world order program and that is what is known as the Tea Party Movement.
01:53:49.000And they're worried about it growing, becoming more mainstream.
01:53:54.000But you saw Rick Perry come to office, back into office, Well, to get the Republican nomination, he'll probably beat the Democrat easily in this Republican state by posing as one of these supposed radical Tea Party people.
01:54:08.000So we're going to be going over all the Democratic and Republican gatekeeping as they try to demonize the Patriot movement in this country, but they can't have it both ways.
01:54:18.000Republican leadership Acting like they're patriots, but at the same time demonizing patriots.
01:54:25.000Also, you heard Declan McCullough of CBS News, CNET News, explaining to you, and I agree with him, we've got Larry Pratt of Gunners of America coming on tomorrow, that this Supreme Court ruling they're set to make, and they've basically told the world what they're going to do in their arguments, Is anti-gun.
01:54:44.000They're saying, yes, you have a right to have a gun, but we have a right to restrict your right to a gun.
01:56:20.000Yes, we're spraying you to save you from global warming.
01:56:23.000We're geoengineering, as the White House science czar John P. Holdren has been saying.
01:56:28.000So, we're going to get into the Second Amendment issue, then we're going to get into the demonization of true Americans, and how I believe they're going to stage a false flag terror attack very soon to be blamed on us.
01:56:41.000The whole stack thing could have even been that.
01:56:43.000A lot of evidence points towards that being a false flag inside stage provocation.
01:56:47.000Jason Burmas will join us for about 10 minutes towards the end of the show to go over the Cybersecurity Act because even Declan McCullough wasn't aware of what was in it.
01:56:54.000So we've got a job to do to let everybody know what's really in this bill and just how bad it is.
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02:00:26.000Okay, we don't know exactly what the Supreme Court ruling will be in the next few months when they release it, but in the last week they've been hearing arguments on it, and court watchers from the Associated Press, anti-gun groups, pro-Second Amendment groups, all agree that it's bad news.
02:00:46.000Some of the media is billing it as pro-Second Amendment.
02:00:50.000But if you read what the justices were saying, including Scalia and others, they are saying that states have substantial latitude and ample authority to impose reasonable regulations, said Justice Anthony Kennedy, who was among the majority.
02:01:13.000And they talk about other previous rulings, and it appeared that all of the justices agreed, and this may be some type of unanimous decision when it comes out, that, oh yeah, you've got a right to keep and bear arms.
02:01:27.000But if we want to locally or federally totally restrict it down to almost nothing, we can do that.
02:01:33.000And that's why the Violence Policy Center, Handgun Control Incorporated, And others have now come out and said, oh, we kind of like this ruling.
02:01:44.000You see, there were never had to be rulings at the federal level about the Second Amendment because everyone knew what it meant.
02:01:52.000And so when they say there's never been a ruling on the Second Amendment until a year and a half ago with the D.C.
02:01:57.000versus Heller, and in that case, you know, People's own homes, their businesses, they would be robbed, raped, killed at gunpoint because D.C., New York City, and Chicago all have the highest crime rates in the country because they have absolute gun bans in place for the citizens.
02:02:17.000And the criminals don't follow the law.
02:02:30.000Every country in the world has banned or is moving to ban and restrict people's right to self-defense.
02:02:37.000And the police will tell you, all the federal and state courts have ruled over and over again, police have no responsibility to protect you from the commission of a crime.
02:02:48.000Rape, robbery, murder, torture, any of it.
02:02:52.000They are there to respond after laws have been violated.
02:02:56.000And that's why in court cases, people sue saying the cops didn't show up for 20 minutes to my 911 call, and you know, my daughter got killed, and they say, well, they have no responsibility to.
02:03:06.000We have a responsibility to defend ourselves, and they want us domesticated as a society.
02:03:15.000So, we've gone from, if you looked at polls 30-40 years ago, people kind of got brainwashed about guns for a while, it became trendy to be anti-gun, until people saw how crime went up when they started restricting guns, and the polls were pretty much 50-50.
02:03:30.000Now the polls are in the mid-70s, and it's growing every year, where the vast majority of Americans They know the Second Amendment is good and want no laws.
02:03:42.000They don't even want felons barred because they know felons will still have guns regardless.
02:03:49.000They want their right to defend themselves back.
02:03:52.000And they are going to fight in the courts and in the court of public opinion to defend it.
02:03:58.000And so the government's kind of shut up on the surface about going after guns, but is using the ATF to restrict legal importation of firearms, to harass gun dealers, gun manufacturers, to go after states like Montana and Tennessee and others that are passing laws or have passed laws saying they can manufacture their own guns in their state outside of federal control.
02:04:19.000Then the feds try to use the Commerce Clause to come in and shut that down and not allow that.
02:04:27.000So the fight is on for the Second Amendment.
02:04:29.000That's why, what is it, 16 million guns the last year and three months?
02:04:34.000Since Obama got into office, he got into office 13 and a half months ago, but after he got elected back in November, it's about 15 months, 16 months.
02:04:43.000Since then, you've seen a million guns a month being sold.
02:04:51.000You've got over 200 million guns in the country, over 150 million gun owners, and they've got a big problem.
02:04:56.000Now, anywhere they can, though, where there's not a lobby or anybody to protect the Second Amendment, They're going after it, like the case in Oregon where the guy for years has been importing to their toy store airsoft BB guns.
02:06:30.000In other scary news, New York Times, EU clears biotech potato for cultivation.
02:06:35.000The European Commission began a new push Tuesday to allow farmers in Europe to grow more biotech crops, clearing a genetically modified potato for cultivation despite persistent public opposition to the technology.
02:06:51.000And folks, every one of these tomatoes, potatoes, corn, you name it, in every study, In every study, reduces fertility or outright sterilizes rodents, guinea pigs, rats, mice that it's fed to.
02:07:06.000There's massive studies about honeybees eating the pollen from GMO Monsanto corn and dying.
02:07:15.000That corn grows in it a natural pesticide that kills bugs that eat it.
02:07:25.000But then you, a human, it's supposedly safe, they're saying, for you to eat that.
02:07:29.000When every major director or sub-director of the FDA in the last few decades has been a former Monsanto executive, and Obama just appointed a new one, over all the regulatory affairs, who will decide?
02:07:47.000And you have the globalist Deceiving the public saying, look, GMO, cross-species, you know, where they put insect genes in corn or human genes in salmon.
02:08:21.000And what Limbaugh and others will do, I've heard them do it over and over again, they'll say, look, George Washington Carver crossed different types of sweet potatoes and different types of varieties of wheat.
02:08:32.000And different varieties of watermelons, and different varieties of squash, and different varieties of soybeans.
02:08:41.000And, well, yeah, I mean, if you take two different varieties of plant and mix them naturally through pollinization, that's completely normal.
02:08:52.000You take different dogs and breed them together to get a new type of breed.
02:08:56.000You're still dealing with the original genetics of canine familiaris, the dog.
02:09:03.000When you breed different types of cows with cows, other cows, you're still dealing with the original water buffalo.
02:09:10.000You're still dealing with the original bovine species.
02:09:16.000But when you take spider genes and put them into goats, so the udders, the breast of the goat, produce body armor, and the goat is now part spider, or you make pigs part human, so you can take their hearts and transplant them in humans.
02:09:44.000And you're worried about terrorism or nuclear weapons?
02:09:46.000That is nothing compared to genetic engineering, nanotech, and the globalists could care less.
02:09:51.000They're just running headlong with all of this and every major GMO crop they bring out, for some reason, happens to reduce fertility in all mammal species.
02:10:01.000And you got these big Fortune 100 companies always having conferences about how they want to forcibly put stuff in the water to reduce world population.
02:10:08.000The White House science czar writing 1,200-page books about it.
02:10:14.000Proposing doing it, they're already doing it through the food.
02:10:22.000Now when we come back, I'm going to get into today's top news.
02:10:28.000I believe the establishment is getting ready to stage false flag events, false terror in America, to blame it on conservative libertarian patriot movement.
02:10:37.000And again, even Michael Savage has figured this out, and he's talking about this almost every day.
02:10:43.000And if we can get the public to wake up to this tried-and-trusted tool, the czars in Russia a hundred years ago would blow up a building, blame it on their enemies, round up thousands.
02:10:54.000The communists did it after the czars left.
02:10:57.000The Reichstag to launch the war against Poland at Gleiwitz.
02:11:02.000Our government has declassified that they do this and they demonize anybody that ever brings up government-sponsored terror.
02:11:09.000Anybody who ever brings up the fact that this is possible, that governments have done this in the past and that they have a motive to stage crises, to scare populations into submission.
02:11:21.000But people better wake up to false flag terror and realize it's part of history, it's real, and it goes on.
02:11:30.000And if we have a full awakening to this, they won't be able to do this anymore.
02:11:34.000That's why they hate 9-11 Truth so much, because it's damaged this program of control that they are engaging in.
02:11:46.000I'm going to get into this key news and break down the possible political futures that the different paths that we're on, many of these lines intersect.
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02:13:12.000They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
02:13:15.000I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
02:13:21.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
02:13:26.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
02:14:21.000How is it that we the people grow the cotton, weave it into fabric, engrave the ink, embed the strips and fibers that protect it from counterfeit, then cart the money off to a privately owned bank to have it lent back to us at interest, forcing us to pay taxes to service the debt?
02:14:36.000Or was Jefferson correct when he said, the central bank issuing a public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
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02:15:59.000so the american people are angry Thank you.
02:16:19.000They know private offshore banks engineered the housing collapse.
02:16:23.000Stole tens of trillions of bailout money.
02:16:46.000When we got the internal homeland security documents, when we got army documents, they're spying on Ron Paul, the tea parties, they've got police with sound cannons and microwave guns out at the events.
02:16:57.000Anybody tries to peacefully protest the G20, police dogs are used on old women.
02:17:02.000That's coming up in our film Police State 4, The Rise of FEMA.
02:17:17.000Will we go like Iceland, who's starting to say no?
02:17:19.000Or like Greece, openly run by Goldman Sachs, that set them up in the financial derivatives that have now destroyed them?
02:17:29.000And so the Republican and Democratic parties are all putting out public statements that we've got to keep extremists out of our parties, these anti-banker people, these anti-Federal Reserve people.
02:17:40.000And we've got to do something about them, and they're evil, and the Oath Keepers are bad, and Sheriff Mack is bad.
02:17:45.000Why he's going around to sheriffs explaining to them they don't have to go under federal control.
02:17:50.000And we've got FEMA and NORTHCOM and Homeland Security and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act and PD51 that states the federal government's going to come in and suppress the states.
02:18:00.000Because they know the number one move against the New World Order is by the 50 states, one by one, they're starting to do it, to say no to the federal government, no to their high taxes, no to their carbon taxes, no to their unconstitutional regulations.
02:18:35.000You've got, and she said what I meant by that was it's not real grass, it's not real grassroots, not that I'm walking on you.
02:18:43.000And we've got Rick Perry saying let's secede, which isn't Tenth Amendment.
02:18:47.000I mean, you could under the Tenth, we're just saying have the states say no to tyranny.
02:18:52.000But he's saying secession, fight the New World Order, fight the Bilderberg Group, fight the Trans-Texas Corridor, which he's the author of.
02:19:00.000So simultaneously, he got the Republican nomination yesterday by posing as a patriot when he's a consummate insider.
02:19:08.000Separately, I heard Kay Bailey Hutchinson's capitulation speech last night.
02:19:12.000She thanked George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush.
02:19:16.000She thanked Henry Kissinger for all endorsing her.
02:19:20.000That does say something for Perry, actually.
02:19:51.000Out of one side of their mouth, they say they lead the Tea Party so they can demonize the birthers and other people they don't like, when that's the majority of the Republican Party's been polled.
02:20:00.000They're saying the majority of their party's bad.
02:20:06.000The evidence of this is, here's a headline, London Guardian, Republican right-wing activists help secure Texas for Rick Perry.
02:20:15.000Moderate Republicans face being displaced by candidates backed by Tea Party and other grassroots right-wingers.
02:20:23.000What we really are is constitutionalists.
02:20:25.000So, the establishment, the New York Times, London Guardian, everywhere is freaking out saying, oh my gosh, These right-wingers, that's a label to make it left-right and divide and conquer people, no.
02:20:37.000We're patriots who are against the foreign corporate takeover known as the New World Order against our country.
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02:20:48.000Conservatives target their own fringe.
02:20:51.000And this goes on to demonize mainline people like Tom Tancredo, former Republican Congressman And they're demonizing Ron Paul in these reports.
02:21:04.000Ron Paul got a record for Texas Republicans.
02:21:10.00080% of the vote in the primary with three Republican Party-funded neocons posing as Tea Partiers, showing the public can differentiate a real constitutionalist versus a phony one.
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02:25:00.000So they've had Republican Party spokesmen Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, everybody else demonize the birthers because they're really worried about more than half Republicans in polls questioning his birth certificate.
02:25:18.000At the same time, They're not having success demonizing the American people and folks that are identifying the new world order.
02:25:30.000They're openly announcing world government, but then calling it a conspiracy theory if we don't like it and don't want an unelected, tyrannical world government ruling our lives.
02:25:40.000And so if you go back to Oklahoma City and other events, the government clearly orchestrated and provocateured that event.
02:25:47.000Paul Watson has an article that breaks all of this down.
02:26:15.000So I can tell you politically That I am seeing the media put out the talking point through right wing and left wing establishment news channels, predominantly cable news, and we have Cass Sunstein, the White House regulations czar, saying we can provocateur events, criminal events, And blame it on our political opposition.
02:26:38.000And there's no way they're going to be able to make everybody feel sorry for the government and have the pretext for the police state and to openly roll out homeland security against conservatives and libertarians and gun owners that their internal reports say they're really set up for.
02:26:54.000There's no way they're going to get away with this without staging events in this country against IRS buildings, against government buildings, against capitals, state capitals, federal capital in DC, against the military.
02:27:10.000So the government can feel sorry for itself and believe there's a real threat out there, and then demonize the Patriot movement.
02:27:16.000Because the Patriot movement that's been around for decades has been right about the world government, did their research, understand the threat we're facing.
02:27:25.000And folks, there's all these neocon publications that are attacking me.
02:28:26.000You criticize anything the government's doing, you may be a dangerous terrorist.
02:28:31.000Uh, so let's go ahead and play this clip.
02:28:34.000Right-wing extremist groups have gained even more support in the USA over the last year, fueled in part by anger over the troubled economy, the nation's first black president, and immigration issues.
02:28:44.000It's raising concerns over a potential rise in anti-government violence, like that deadly attack on an IRS building in Texas last week.
02:28:53.000I'm joined by Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center, the author of the annual report, Rage on the Right.
02:28:59.000What stands out to you this year in terms of these groups who are truly angry at the way they see the government acting?
02:29:09.000Really, what stands out the most is just the scope of the thing.
02:29:13.000I mean, there has been an enormous growth in groups on the radical right of all kinds in the last year.
02:29:18.000You know, when we look at the whole picture, though, the most astounding growth has come in the so-called Patriot groups, the militias that all of us remember from the 1990s.
02:29:29.000You know, these groups have very largely, if not disappeared, at least gone quiescent.
02:29:33.000But what we found was 363 new groups in the last year.
02:29:52.000What is it about them that concerns you in terms of the threat they represent against America?
02:29:56.000Because he's high up on the mountain and he tells us what to do.
02:29:59.000Well, the self-named Patriot Movement is really the movement of which the paramilitary wing was the malicious.
02:30:07.000So, you know, basically the Patriot Movement is a movement that sees the federal government as its primary enemy and believes that the government is involved in all that.
02:30:15.000By the way, our whole country is going bankrupt.
02:31:15.000The investigators produced a lot of havoc.
02:31:17.000You know, the investigators in that case, Mark, characterized that as criminal activity.
02:31:22.000But what we saw in the 1990s with Timothy McVeigh and what happened in Oklahoma City at the Murrah Federal Building was very similar.
02:31:30.000A vehicle being used to attack a government building because of anti-government extremism.
02:31:37.000Are you concerned about domestic terrorism?
02:31:40.000And are you concerned that the reluctance on the part of investigators Well, look, in the Joseph Stack case, one could argue about it, because there's certainly evidence in both directions.
02:31:55.000Joseph Stack was a man, according to his kind of suicide note, who was angry at a lot of things, the Catholic Church, unions, corporations, and so on, but he kept circling back to the idea of It was the IRS and the government was the enemy.
02:34:24.000The caller asked if Alex believes the sudden onset of earthquakes may be related to HAARP.
02:34:30.000Now it was Hugo Chavez reportedly said he thought that could be a weather weapon and the reason I talk about this sometimes is Secretary of Defense Cohen told Army Times in 97 they have these weapons.
02:34:41.000Other people have been pointing out that you keep seeing lights in the skies over places that are hit, but you've got giant tectonic plates.
02:34:48.000When you walk across the floor and there's static electricity, you can shock yourself.
02:34:52.000Well, imagine giant plates are moving.
02:34:54.000The Aurora Borealis in the Northern Hemisphere is caused by the magnetic field from the mass of the Earth.
02:35:00.000So, of course, you're going to see an aurora, and this has been reported for more than a hundred years.
02:35:04.000So, just because they're seeing lights in the sky over Haiti or over Chile, Doesn't mean that these are weather weapons.
02:36:17.000The bigger issue is, notice the government can't and won't protect you, whether it's Katrina or any of these events.
02:36:23.000You've got to be ready to take care of yourself.
02:36:25.000But I do want to play this MSNBC clip where one of the witnesses did see these bizarre lights in the sky, and a lot of people reported this before the Chilean mega 8.0 plus earthquake.
02:37:02.000I was sleeping as most of us, of course, here in the country.
02:37:07.000And all of a sudden I started feeling this tremor, and since we're really used to tremors, because this is a land of earthquakes, just as the Central America is a land of hurricanes and tornadoes, for example, this is a land of earthquakes and tremors.
02:37:22.000So I just said to myself, OK, I'm not going to do anything until it gets really serious.
02:37:26.000And well, it did get serious, but I still was laying in bed.
02:37:30.000I was just so shocked, because I was totally paralyzed.
02:37:35.000I didn't really know what to do because I was expecting all of a sudden, you know, you see my neighbor maybe getting through from the roof to my floor or whatever.
02:37:46.000It was so, so intense and I was seeing the sky changing colors and it was really sort of apocalypse now thing.
02:37:55.000So Cecilia, that sounds pretty frightening, but was it a sharp jolt or did it just sort of build and how long did this last?
02:38:05.000Well, I've been discussing the duration, the lasting of the earthquake, because for me it was sort of short, maybe no more than 40 seconds or so, especially the intense, the more intense part, probably half a minute, as I said, no more than 40 seconds, but the whole thing, which starts really...
02:38:30.000You can watch the whole clip where she talks about lights in the sky.
02:38:34.000The point is, we don't know if that's the case.
02:38:37.000Let's go ahead and play another clip from a caller from Quebec, Canada.
02:38:41.000Caller asks if the Copenhagen tax is passing in a form of gas tax in Quebec.
02:38:47.000Let's go ahead and play that question.
02:38:56.000Quebec is in the eastern part of Canada.
02:38:58.000They just passed regulation, even though the rest of Canada and Quebec on a local level passed regulation that's going to increase gas prices by 12 cents.
02:40:06.000Now, to answer that question, yes, until they put in the John Warren Defense Authorization Act in 2007, that they've reauthorized since then, saying that the President and the Congress can remove governors and appoint governors and controls the National Guard.
02:40:23.000This is the total illegal federalization of everything.
02:41:26.000positioning himself, just like Rick Perry or Sarah Palin, to act like they're the opposition to the New World Order, when in all their real actions, they support it.
02:41:49.000Yeah, I just wanted to say that we need to really, like you've said, be pretty wary of when they start to really push the Iran thing and start to really, you know, make a lot of mentions of Iran and stirring up that whole pot. - Yeah. make a lot of mentions of Iran and stirring up Yeah, seven years ago we heard all about the WMDs and here we are again hearing about WMDs.
02:42:14.000Right, yeah, and somehow people just don't get it.
02:42:18.000Oh, that thing again, well maybe this time it's true.
02:42:21.000Uh, but yeah, I think they'll probably, you know, my guess is they're going to try to push some sort of staged event that ultimately they're going to be able to try and blame on Iran and somehow tie in with the mythical domestic terrorists so that they can get more enforcement here at home on top of whatever they would normally do and then and then pushed their illegal war with Iran.
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02:44:09.000As we're finishing off this agenda, we're pulling the rug from underneath the Americans at home.
02:44:14.000I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
02:44:21.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
02:44:26.000All of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
02:44:40.000And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
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02:45:30.000We the people grow cotton, weave fabric, engrave ink, embed strips and fibers to protect from counterfeit, then carting to a private bank, having it led back at interest, forcing taxes to service debt.
02:45:40.000Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
02:47:32.000And about the earthquakes, I've been looking at the earthquake.usgs.gov government site and, you know, reading about earthquakes, Japan, Chile, Philippines, yada, yada.
02:47:46.000But I've been seeing a lot of recent activity in California.
02:47:49.000In the Haiti earthquakes, the epicenter, the depth of the epicenter was about 10 kilometers, they list.
02:47:55.000And the one in Chile was 30 kilometers deep.
02:47:58.000Now, obviously there were 8.8 and 7.0, whatever it was.
02:48:02.000But the California epicenters, the depth, of their earthquakes are 1.9 kilometers deep, 2.5, .9, 2.2, 2.5, even though their earthquakes are pretty small, if there is a chance of a large earthquake in California The epicenter doesn't look like it's going to be too deep, so I think... Alright, I've got a job, I've got to get to other callers, but I appreciate your call.
02:48:26.000Look, the Earth has natural earthquakes, is all I'm saying.
02:48:28.000Everything doesn't have to be a conspiracy.
02:48:30.000But it is true, the government admits they have these weapons, so it could be, I don't know.
02:48:42.000Good, well, my question is, I've been listening to your show a lot lately, and I know it's a key point you and along with Bob and Webster and a couple other guys make on the air is going through this revolution against, you know, these criminals.
02:48:56.000We need to go about this in a peaceful manner.
02:48:58.000My question is, how far are we going to let these guys, you know, go and get away with stuff before the violence, you know, it really needs to start taking effect?
02:49:11.000We're defeating their Copenhagen Treaty.
02:49:13.000We're defeating their swine flu fraud.
02:49:15.000We're defeating all their hoaxes, their health care.
02:49:18.000So if we're holding them back peacefully and starting to have traction, and they're going, oh, they're going to be violent, oh, they're going to be violent.
02:49:24.000We know the feds always stage attacks against themselves.
02:49:27.000They've been caught over and over again.
02:49:29.000It isn't smart strategically to start violence.
02:49:34.000Most of the people in government are idiots like the general public.
02:49:37.000We have to reach out and wake people up peacefully, but also defend ourselves from tyranny and expose tyranny so people know how to recognize it.
02:49:55.000Hey Alex, this is the Spirit of 1776 and thank you so much for inspiring us and our movement on Long Island.
02:50:01.000I just wanted to say that this Dylan Rattigan piece that you have on PrisonPlanet.com exposing another shill who's demonizing the Tea Party movement.
02:50:11.000I just wanted to thank you for all your efforts, and may the spirit of liberty and freedom live on forever.