The government is selling an ID card for illegal immigrants. It s a complete retread of a plan they tried to pass in 2005, 2006, and 2007, but failed to get a vote on. They re selling it again in 2008, but this time with a twist.
00:01:21.000Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer with key 9-11 information and the latest on Pakistan claiming they captured Adam Gadahn, then reporting they hadn't captured him.
00:01:31.000That's coming up in about 25 minutes from now.
00:01:34.000Chris Pinto, documentary filmmaker and then member of the Icelandic Parliament, Birgitta Jones-Dottier, will be joining us on that key find in the last hour.
00:01:44.000She'll be joining us also, not just on the radio, but at PrisonPlanet.tv for all the viewers at PrisonPlanet.tv, getting a lot of new members.
00:01:52.000We're excited so many of you are joining us over at PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:01:58.000Okay, let me get into the most important news that we're facing and dealing with, and it all ties together.
00:02:04.000In fact, give me a document can shot, boys.
00:03:12.000He had the 20 smoking guns piece that he wrote, giving the subsections of the bill.
00:03:20.000Not only complete total amnesty, but all illegal aliens would be legalized, including felons, aggravated felons, rapists, arsonists, armed robbers.
00:03:32.000And they would swear to not do it again and be completely legalized.
00:03:37.000And for six years, it was sunsetted out after six years, they could bring unlimited family members into the United States.
00:03:44.000So you think it's bad with 30 million illegals driving down wages, bankrupting the welfare system, hundreds of millions of people wanting to come here.
00:03:52.000Imagine what this would do, allowing them to bring in massive amounts of family.
00:04:00.000It was a complete and total, well, the equivalent of a gubernatorial and presidential pardon for criminals.
00:04:10.000Now, in that plan, and remember, this was written up by the Security and Prosperity Partnership at their Banff Canada meeting in 2006, and Judicial Watch sued and got the documents.
00:04:22.000It stated, we're going to sell legalization in the name of legalizing the immigrants.
00:06:20.000And the Senate announced that they're going to go ahead and try to pass a bill to just put taxes on all fuel at the refinery.
00:06:27.000And this is what the oil companies are asking for.
00:06:30.000That was in the New York Times Sunday.
00:06:32.000Oil companies request ExxonMobil, Dutch Royal Shell, all of them requesting the taxes because they're owned and run by the big central banks.
00:07:03.000Now, the reason, in fact, here's another Wall Street Journal article about it, Economics Creating Environmental Capital, and it's the head of Dutch Royal Shell, Peter Vosser, you know, all the heads of the big oil companies, right here, saying that they want these taxes.
00:07:41.000Just like the health care takeover was written by the insurance companies, and every time it looks like it's about to pass, their stock shoots up.
00:07:48.000They gave four times the money to Obama they did McCain, because he promised to ram this through.
00:07:53.000Doesn't matter, McCain's supporting it as well.
00:07:57.000So Schumer-Graham used immigration to push a national biometric ID card.
00:08:01.000Now, again, before they can even pass this law, the government offers it to the slaves.
00:08:30.000They don't tell you that under this agreement, the Mexicans can come in here with it.
00:08:35.000Or the Canadians can come in here with it, and now they're just gonna say, free open travel, the UNSPP, North American Union Plan, it's a free-for-all now, if you have this card.
00:08:48.000And then you can come in and once you have a baby here, then you get all the welfare, the anchor babies, all of it.
00:08:55.000Now, you tie that in with this next report.
00:08:59.000CNN lavishes coffee party with favorable coverage after a year of Tea Party demonization.
00:09:04.000Two months ago, I announced that if I have the time or that somebody else should do it, we should start a coffee party stronger than tea to take over the tea parties that we started from the Republicans.
00:09:14.000Well, the globalists are worse than that.
00:09:16.000They now have an open Obama operative setting up the coffee party and every time I turn the TV on, We've got it on in the coffee room.
00:09:23.000I'm not even watching more than 20 minutes a day.
00:09:56.000The point is, is that we've got to fend off the Republicans trying to take over the Tea Parties and castrate them, geld them with a real code of constitutional systems and populism for freedom.
00:10:11.000And we've got to fend off the Obama takeover because the system wants to come in and take over the resistance to this globalist takeover.
00:10:21.000So we're going to get more into that, but I want to play, going out to break, the Hemispheric ID card ad that's been running for more than a year all over TV, and they have a radio version of this as well.
00:10:32.000So this is your North American Union ID card, but under this bill, you will need this to have a job.
00:10:38.000And the Canadians and Mexicans can come here, and we can go there, vice versa, and have jobs with this.
00:10:43.000But of course, it'll be selectively enforced.
00:10:51.000From painted deserts set ablaze to snow-capped mountain peaks, our travels last for only days, but our spirits soar for weeks.
00:10:59.000The salty air, a comfy chair, a place we can't unwind.
00:11:03.000But what it is we really miss is the home we left behind.
00:11:07.000On June 1st, 2009, new document requirements will make getting home from Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean by land or sea more efficient.
00:11:15.000Learn more about the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative at GetUHome.gov.
00:11:21.000Okay, so what they do is they show you driver's license, and then show them transform and turn, if you look, into North American travel passes.
00:11:31.000And so they're saying in the bill, we're going to give these to all the illegal aliens, because we've got to know what they're doing, and just legalize them.
00:11:40.000So this will fix illegal immigration, because it will just make it all legal.
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00:16:00.000Putting the structure of power, as we know it, on trial.
00:16:04.000There's a new film that seeks to do just that, looking at the history of political power, scandal, and the vision of some of the most well-known leaders in the world and how they shaped it.
00:16:14.000Jason Vermas is a radio host and filmmaker and is behind a new movie that we're talking about right now.
00:16:20.000It's called The Invisible Empire, A New World Order Defined.
00:17:07.000Well, I found that through organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Royal Institute for International Affairs, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, and many others, they have consolidated power on a mass level and are moving towards a world government.
00:17:23.000You're seeing this more and more with events like the G20 calling for a world currency and SDR units as the new reserve currency.
00:17:32.000So I'm really out to expose this agenda to not only the American people, but the world.
00:17:37.000I understand that you did also some work on the film Loose Change 9-11, which challenges what the authorities have said about 9-11 and identifies some of the main points of what's now becoming the 9-11 truth movement.
00:17:49.000Does the Invisible Empire deal with this issue at all?
00:17:55.000Actually, my last film, Fabled Enemies, exposed the international intelligence organization surrounding 9-11.
00:18:02.000Instead of focusing on the anomalies at the World Trade Center, at WTC7, or Shanksville, we exposed the Saudi Arabian, the Pakistani, the Israeli, and shadow government connections, and are now taking this a step further with Invisible Empire, a new world order to find.
00:18:17.000And this will be premiering at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv, April 15th, for the world to see.
00:18:24.000And as you just mentioned, you're releasing it on InfoWars and Prison Planet.
00:18:28.000Did you try at all to get this released on the big screen or to get some investors to back you so it could become more well-known by the public?
00:18:37.000Well, to be honest with you, I've tried to go that route before, and it can be an extremely difficult process.
00:18:43.000And with my films being seen by tens of millions of people online for free, that gets the message out.
00:18:48.000And we encourage people to take our films, make copies, and hand them out, because this is not about money.
00:18:53.000This is about getting the information to the public so that we can try to restore the Constitution and Bill of Rights in this country.
00:18:59.000This is to oppose tyranny, not to make a profit.
00:19:02.000I'm curious about Invisible Empire itself.
00:19:06.000Give me some of the specifics, the premise, and what you hope your viewers will get out of it.
00:19:12.000Well, a lot of times when people use the term New World Order, you're already into the conspiracy arena.
00:19:19.000And I literally have over 200 prominent people discussing that very term.
00:19:24.000So I want to shatter the image of what a New World Order means, and really put out the facts, the truth about this agenda.
00:19:32.000And that's what I've done in this film.
00:19:34.000Not only going over their organizations, but also their modes of control, such as assassination and false flag terror.
00:19:40.000You were contrasting, I noticed, especially in the trailer, some leaders.
00:19:47.000You also had, you know, President Kennedy, President Bush.
00:19:51.000Talk a little bit about, I mean, you seem to be arguing that there's sort of a congruent message between these leaders.
00:19:59.000Well, I don't think that I put Kennedy in a negative light.
00:20:02.000Kennedy warned us that secret societies and backdoor dealings were a major problem during his presidency, and we know where that led to, his assassination.
00:20:12.000So, when we have a person like George Bush espousing a New World Order under the United Nations and global governance, And then on the other side of the supposed spectrum, we have people like Al Gore calling for the same exact thing, and Bill Clinton calling for the same exact thing.
00:20:28.000In this film, you'll see Bill Clinton talk about a new world order not once, but twice.
00:20:32.000So really, I want to expose this, like you said, congruent agenda for world government.
00:20:37.000All right, Jason Vermas, thanks so much for giving us that inside look on your upcoming film.
00:20:40.000Film comes out, Invisible Empire comes out April 15th.
00:20:43.000I wanted to play Jason on RT yesterday, doing a great job, in the pre-build-up to the new film Invisible Empire, A New World Order Defined.
00:21:09.000but I like the term they used, the New World Order on trial.
00:21:13.000In fact, we're finishing the back cover right now.
00:21:21.000As we've been debating the catch line on the back of the film, or their greatest secrets revealed, or the secrets, you know, secrets exposed.
00:21:30.000I'm not sure, but I wanted to play that.
00:21:32.000Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer coming up, and your phone calls and a lot more.
00:21:38.000We'll continue to break down all the incredible news, legislation now in the Congress to secretly arrest and torture American citizens for any reason the Pentagon wishes.
00:21:50.000We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
00:24:06.000It is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
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00:24:20.000America is being deliberately destroyed by a cabal of international gangsters so that she can be forced into subjugation to a one-world government.
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00:25:42.000We're going to be covering this more coming up in the rest of the broadcast.
00:25:45.000But for the next 25 minutes, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, highly decorated veteran, they had Al Qaeda targeted, they had some of Bin Laden targeted in the months before 9-11, were not allowed to go in.
00:25:59.000A lot of that's been declassified, quite a bit of it isn't.
00:26:03.000His new book coming out in a few months is going to detail, but it's going through the review process with the Pentagon.
00:26:08.000Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shavers, a Bronze Star recipient, more than 25 years of experience in the intelligence community, including directing the Defense Intelligence Agency Task Force, Stratus Ivy.
00:26:18.000Under the lead, Stratis IV conducted some of the most daring and innovative human intelligence collection and information operation ever undertaken by the Department of Defense, as well as providing information to support the SOCOM program, Able Danger.
00:26:33.000And he is currently a senior fellow with the External Communications Director of Special Lecture at the Center for Advanced Defense Studies, Washington, D.C.
00:26:40.000He instructs classes in psychology of terrorism and intelligence analyst.
00:26:45.000And we're honored to have him on with us.
00:26:53.000I want to recap your story, get into the latest developments, but you had said off-air to me you saw my piece on Geraldo Saturday, and I thought it suspicious that within an hour and five minutes, the media was already knowing this guy was supposedly a 9-11 truther.
00:27:11.000question why does the media love to demonize 9-11 truth and try to tie it in with violence when there never was any history of it they they pre-programmed people for that i mean i really see some type of of a setup here i think this whole thing is very suspicious well i i think obviously there are people looking for rationale and reasons for for for actions that clearly are random and
00:27:35.000In some cases, I think, you mentioned, we talked about how there's kooks out there who simply get well off the beaten path.
00:27:43.000They adapt whatever view they think is closest to their view of the world.
00:27:47.000And I think, in this case, the individual just lost it.
00:27:51.000And I'm the anti-terrorism officer of the division I'm in right now, too, and this is something the Army's actually looking at, is how individuals Can become unstable.
00:28:02.000And it's an issue which happens all across society.
00:28:06.000As a matter of fact, Alex, if I recall hearing today, somewhere else one of the individuals went bonkers and started shooting people again in a workplace.
00:28:13.000So, you know, to try to equivocate a kook's attack on the Pentagon and try to lump it into a larger organization, Simply doesn't make sense, especially when you're talking about doing it within hours of the event.
00:28:26.000I mean, you and I both know to do a thorough investigation, even do a triage investigation, it would take days.
00:28:32.000So, you know, for anyone to jump within hours and say, this guy is associated, you've got to wonder what the agenda is, because clearly someone's not being objective.
00:28:40.000And it's funny, because if, and I'm going to say this, this is probably politically correct, if the guy was Muslim, They would have taken hours and days to try to push away the fact that he was of Muslim descent.
00:28:51.000Because, you know, there's a complete opposite take.
00:28:55.000If someone with a certain background, for example, the Major Hassan thing, it took him nearly five hours to disclose that he had a Middle Eastern name.
00:29:05.000So there's a real problem with perception going on in the press right now.
00:29:09.000They're ready to jump one way, but they will not jump another.
00:29:12.000And this to me tells of the fact that there's a real problem with objective reporting.
00:29:18.000Okay, well take the Fort Hood shooting.
00:29:20.000It turned out for two years he was walking around praising suicide bombers, he was communicating with these Al-Qaeda operatives who were well-known, and the CIA has declared national security and won't give Congress those emails.
00:29:33.000With the shooter at the Pentagon, his family warned months before and weeks before about it, nothing was done.
00:29:51.000Sounds just like what happened to you and Stratis Ivy.
00:29:55.000We were told to let him have his visa and help him get on the plane, and we have the witnesses, Kurt Haskell and others on the plane, saying a sharp-dressed man without ID, without passport, got him through security in Amsterdam, passed the scanners onto the plane.
00:30:11.000The FBI said that wasn't true at first, now said, okay, It is true.
00:30:15.000It looks like something more is going on.
00:30:18.000I mean, at bare minimum, they're leaving the door open for these people.
00:30:23.000Well, there's a real risk versus gain, and let me divert just a bit here, but I think it's still on topic.
00:30:29.000I believe the Bahtadar arrest was something similar.
00:30:31.000I think we were, frankly, getting a lot of intel take out of Bahtadar while he was still in.
00:30:37.000And Bahtadar, for those of you who are listening to this, maybe you don't understand, he was the number two Taliban guy in Pakistan, wrapped up in Karachi a while back, just a few weeks ago.
00:30:47.000I'm hearing, and I got this both from British sources and American sources, he was kind of neutralized where he was at.
00:30:56.000And Alex, that's one of the things that the intelligence community does do.
00:31:00.000They will target someone and let them sit.
00:31:02.000They will know everything he's doing because the simple fact of their existence and their actions allows us to track back who they're talking to.
00:31:09.000And again, this goes back to Abel Danger.
00:31:58.000And going towards the idea of Badr-Dar, I think Badr-Dar was not arrested because we wanted to get more intelligence out of him.
00:32:06.000I think in some ways he was arrested to neutralize him because one of the things we have to remember, Alex, is Badr-Dar was the main contact between the Taliban and the Pakistani ISI.
00:32:15.000So, you know, I think the last thing in the world the Pakistani ISI wants is a Taliban guy talking about who in the ISI, the Pakistani ISI, is bad.
00:32:24.000So, you know, I preach this on the air every time I go on, You've got to look deeper at a story.
00:32:29.000You cannot take things at face value, because there's always more.
00:32:33.000And frankly, there's multiple competing agendas, and it's very tough, as you know, to get past the agendas and get to the truth.
00:32:40.000Well, let me expand on that because we know about the airlift of evil.
00:33:09.000He's the grandson of one of the ADL founders, this super anti-Muslim guy, and now he's the voice of Al-Qaeda.
00:33:16.000We know there's all these double and triple agents out there, so we hear somebody gets captured over and over again, and we know about these airlifts of evil.
00:33:26.000Well, I think you're absolutely right.
00:33:28.000I mean, that's one of the issues we have to look at here is, what is the real story?
00:33:32.000And let's talk about the Ghaddan thing or Pakistan in general.
00:33:36.000Frankly, one of the things that's been seen several times lately is that Pakistan is trying to maintain control of the Taliban.
00:33:43.000And in many ways, they see the Taliban as Iran sees Hezbollah.
00:33:50.000They do view it as a separate but capable component of their national strength.
00:33:56.000Therefore, when you start looking at how it works, who's involved, you've really got to question what their motives are, what the Pakistani motives are, when they do anything.
00:34:06.000And to underscore your point, absolutely.
00:34:07.000Back in 2003 was one of the first indicators that we knew, and I briefed General Labardo, the commander of forces on it, that Taliban ISI elements were not only participating, they were captured.
00:34:20.000There was an ISI female operative captured in a Taliban raid in Afghanistan in 03.
00:34:26.000So, you know, we have indicators going back to 03 that they've been riding both sides of the rail.
00:34:31.000And in this case, we've really got to look at how they're doing it.
00:34:35.000Now, one of our senior fellows, Chris Mason, came out recently in Foreign Affairs, it's a publication, and talked about the fact that he thinks that everything we're seeing right now is being orchestrated by the Pakistanis, not because they support us, but they're working out of their own enlightened not because they support us, but they're working out of their own enlightened self-interest to re-insinuate themselves into the negotiations with us and the Taliban, because they know if the Taliban breaks off from them and negotiates with us, that the
00:35:06.000So I think you need to look at everything that goes on here as a big chessboard and figure out that sometimes sacrificing a pawn is a good thing if that means you can protect your queen.
00:35:18.000And I think that's what we're doing here.
00:35:20.000Every time a move is made, you've got to look at the chessboard and figure out, okay, what's going on over here on the other side of the chessboard?
00:36:09.000I mean, you go back to 1993, it came out in the New York Times and CBS News, and we now have the FBI tapes, they were declassified last year, that were in the trial.
00:36:19.000The FBI goes in, hires Ahmad Salam, an Egyptian intelligence officer, tells them we're going to set up local Muslim radicals.
00:36:37.000Telling him that yes, you were hired, you were told to build a dummy bomb, then we changed it to a real bomb, now we're letting it go ahead, clearly as a way to get more funding, crack down a police state.
00:36:48.000We have the Homeland Security MyAC report documents that came out last year where most of Homeland Security is now for gun owners, veterans, libertarians, conservatives.
00:36:57.000This whole anti-terror apparatus is really being used as a cashless society taxing and control grid.
00:37:04.000We have Sybil Edmonds saying now, until the day of 9-11, that the U.S.
00:37:09.000elements of it, involved with the Turks and involved with the Pakistanis and CIA and Mossad and British MI6 were all, in her words, Running Al-Qaeda, or elements of it, on the day of 9-11, and she's gagged.
00:37:33.000Because I look at this from a Hegelian dialectic of problem-reaction-solution.
00:37:37.000Or from some of the Army field manuals that talk about false flag to, again, allow this to happen bare minimum as a pretext to launch new wars.
00:37:48.000Well, let me cover the question in two parts.
00:37:50.000First off, I know Sabella, I respect her, I think she's a wonderful woman, and I admire her work.
00:38:12.000So I think I give her that right there.
00:38:13.000It's like, man, the more they try to sit on you, you know... And all the FBI agents that were gagged who tried to stop it.
00:38:19.000Well, and then there's some of our other associates.
00:38:21.000I know one of them was on the FAA Red Team, and, you know, there was a recent thing on Facebook I was watching kind of go where Condoleezza Rice talked about no one could imagine aircraft being used as weapons.
00:38:32.000Well, I don't see the FAA was trained against that scenario for years before 9-11.
00:38:37.000So, and that's all, you know, again, one of Sabel's... The Pentagon ran a drill the year before of it happening.
00:38:44.000I think, you know, this is one of those things where I think everybody can speculate all day, and I think Sabel has given some extraordinarily clear clues to follow up.
00:38:55.000The problem is always to get someone to investigate.
00:39:00.000And this is one of the things I've talked about both with my issue, with the 9-11 issue, with some of these other things.
00:39:06.000There's got to be a way of establishing a credible investigative body to sort through this.
00:39:10.000Because otherwise, and this is where I think I do take exception with the Obama administration talking about trying to go after radical groups.
00:39:18.000You know, frankly, I think by the fact you won't address Let's stop there.
00:39:33.000Let's stop there because we're running out of time, and this is so important.
00:39:35.000For people that don't know your case, maybe crystallize that in how you were stopped from doing your job and stopping 9-11, and then at every point the doors were opened, the embassies gave them their visas, and we're told this is part of national security.
00:39:52.000You have Ada and others popping up at U.S.
00:39:54.000military bases, I mean, this stinks to high heaven, but pulling back from that, We have this overall demonization of anybody who calls for a new investigation and you have Debra Medina getting in trouble for it, a gubernatorial candidate, you have all these talk show hosts saying you're the devil if you question anything in or around 9-11 when we have six of the ten 9-11 commissioners coming out and saying we need a new investigation.
00:40:21.000Well, I'm with you on that, and I think that's right there should be the beginning and end of it.
00:40:26.000If the 9-11 commissioners themselves, and I heard this on the news today talking about something, you know, there's apparently a belief now, by the 9-11 commissioners, that the report is speculative at best.
00:40:37.000So, if you're putting out speculation as policy, then there's something dreadfully wrong.
00:40:42.000I mean, come on, Alex, that's what is wrong.
00:40:43.000So, I think that should be the beginning and end of it right there.
00:40:46.000That should be the place where everything starts and ends regarding the justification for a new investigation.
00:40:51.000So it's not wrong to call for a new investigation.
00:40:53.000Not at all, and especially since the investigators themselves, the commissioners, have said that we didn't go as far as we probably could or should have.
00:41:01.000Now with that said, I think if you want to talk about Able Danger, there's a book out, and it's one of those things I rail at when people say, well, you know, the IG report doesn't say anything about Able Danger.
00:41:10.000The IG report talks about the fact that a car name was found in a database, but people don't bother to read the report.
00:41:17.000They read the summary and say there's no evidence, but they don't bother to read the body where they say, well, Yeah, we actually did find a top name.
00:41:48.000There's a page in there about Jeffrey Lambert, Major General Jeffrey Lambert, who was the operations officer at SOCOM when I was involved with AbleDanger.
00:41:58.000Major General Lambert admits, on the day of 9-11, his thinking was, oh my god, I know who did this, it was Al-Qaeda, and I know the guy who did it.
00:42:07.000I know it, Tom, because I was briefed on him a year before.
00:42:11.000So, you know, you gotta ask yourself, How is it that the DOD IG failed to interview Major General Jeffrey Lambert, and now here he is years later.
00:42:20.000The book came out, I guess, January of last year.
00:42:23.000How is it now that he's admitted this?
00:42:26.000Did he not get the memo to keep his mouth shut?
00:42:29.000Did he just not get contacted by the IG?
00:42:31.000So with that fact alone, Alex, I think that justifies a new investigation of able danger.
00:43:47.000It says, for any intelligence gathering or such other matters as the president considers appropriate, I mean, they're killing America on the altar of the Al-Qaeda boogeyman when this thing grew out of what the CIA set up in 1979 to the 1980s in the Mujahideen, and it's just every door open to the terrorists, every door they're protected.
00:44:08.000I mean, bottom line here, this looks like a staged event to me.
00:44:13.000Then we can debate, well, how much of it's staged, or to what extent.
00:44:17.000Well, I think, Alex, your listeners need to take a hard look at what's going on, and they need to put off the pressure of the representatives, because this is the one question I would ask them to think about.
00:44:25.000If we've... And as you said, these things are not new.
00:44:27.000These have been in the process of being implemented.
00:44:29.000People have had time to get used to them.
00:44:30.000The law enforcement intelligence community has these tools available to them.
00:44:34.000How is it, then, that the underwear bomber got so close to launching, as a matter of fact, had he not...
00:44:39.000Technically failed to ignite the weapon.
00:44:50.000The intelligence community has gotten everything it can.
00:44:53.000And for example, Mr. Brennan, the special advisor to the president regarding terrorism, he talks about 25% revitism as being okay.
00:45:02.000And now the number two guy in the Taliban in Pakistan who picked up where Badadah left off is one of the guys who released from Guantanamo.
00:45:11.000So, you know, again, you've got to ask yourself, what are we doing as a government with these enhanced laws, with these enhanced abilities of the intelligence community, Because to me, if you're having your misses after all these enhancements, something's wrong.
00:45:27.000And you gotta, again, if you've been given everything you want and you still aren't producing, that means, like you pointed out, somewhere we missed something in the early investigations.
00:45:37.000I argue, the 9-11 Commission not only got it wrong, they didn't get to the nub of what was really wrong at all.
00:45:43.000And this is where I think, you know, we've got to go back to that fundamental beginning.
00:45:47.000The 9-11 attacks, to look at that, and then make an assessment of what actually went wrong because they never placed blame.
00:45:53.000And I think, Alex, they need to go back and place blame.
00:45:56.000And frankly, I do some of that blame because I didn't scream as much as I should have regarding the fact we identified these guys and we're trying to get the FBI the information.
00:46:05.000And I testify to that fact that I feel horrible about the fact that I was not, you know, out of all the things I've made decisions about in my life, But Colonel Schaefer, you at least tried to stop it.
00:46:14.000I don't think you have any blame here.
00:46:16.000Instead, we saw the FBI commanders that blocked their agents from stopping people at the flight schools when they specifically said we believe they're training in Arizona, Minnesota, Oklahoma to fly planes into buildings.
00:46:28.000They got demoted, and the agents that blocked them got record cash bonuses.
00:46:45.000I mean, this is just absolutely staged out in the open, and we know that this threat of terror is being used to clamp down on the American people.
00:46:57.000And so you are calling for a new 9-11 investigation here, and that's good.
00:47:13.000Well, I think you've got to find someone getting out of the politics and doing it.
00:47:17.000Frankly, the 9-11 Commission was made up of people who all had background and agendas almost contrary to the good interest of the country trying to get to the bottom.
00:47:27.000So, you've got to find people who have two things.
00:47:30.000First off, the skill set to understand what they're looking at.
00:47:32.000I argue half the 9-11 staff did not understand the importance of certain things that were brought to them.
00:47:39.000Secondly, you gotta have people who do not have political agendas.
00:47:42.000And frankly, it's hard to find but not impossible.
00:47:45.000This is where one of those things, if there is a will to have someone allow a selection process to go through, a vetting process to go through, you could find the right people.
00:47:54.000I mean, you could find people who would do a credible job of telling the truth.
00:47:58.000But that process itself would be painful.
00:48:01.000It'd probably take about, you know, probably a year to get the right people selected.
00:48:05.000But simply because it's tough to do, There's no reason to not do it.
00:48:10.000So we need the people to continue investigating and lawsuits and other things.
00:48:14.000In closing, Colonel Schaffer, we appreciate your time here and your courage to come on and talk about these issues.
00:48:22.000They're vetting your book right now in national security.
00:48:25.000It's coming out, I guess, in the next few months, hopefully.
00:48:36.000How much are they going to allow you to put in there that the public hasn't known so far?
00:48:40.000Can you give us any tidbits of stuff that's been vetted and that you're allowed to release?
00:48:45.000Well, I guess the one thing I can talk about in good detail is the fact that there's an entire chapter devoted to my initial conversations with Philip Zelikow at Bagram.
00:48:56.000This is not something I was able to go into for any number of reasons when I testified, and I pretty much go through the entire, you know, verbatim, what happened.
00:49:05.000And so, you know, it is from my recollection.
00:49:09.000And I go through and provide the detail.
00:49:11.000The other thing I think is going to be notable about the book is it was, you know, it wasn't just me talking.
00:49:15.000We had collaboration and support from other members who were deployed with me.
00:49:20.000So when you read the book, you'll have to understand it's been bettered not only by, you know, a security review, but the folks who are actually there with me have participated in helping write the book.
00:49:30.000And we're going to get a bird's eye view into how you were specifically blocked from taking out Al Qaeda before the attacks.
00:49:37.000Well, don't forget, this is only the introduction of Able Danger.
00:49:39.000It's not going to be a teaser, but this covers my deployment to Afghanistan in 2003 and 2004, and where the disclosure made it.
00:49:48.000Basically, the thing that came after in 2005 and 2006 is an entirely different story.
00:49:53.000But this actually talks about, in great detail, my protected disclosure to Phil Zelikow, and what happened to me when they tried to shut me up.
00:50:05.000As a matter of fact, Stratos Ivy is brought up in greater detail.
00:50:08.000As a matter of fact, it's one of the new things.
00:50:09.000There's a little bit more detail on Stratos Ivy that looks like they'll be able to read about in the book.
00:50:14.000But bottom line, Colonel Schaefer, the establishment gets more power out of these terror attacks, and I find that very suspicious.
00:50:22.000I find the fact that we've given the intelligence community a lot more authority, a lot more money, a lot more resources, and we're still having problems to be something terribly wrong.
00:50:31.000And again, your listeners should really question, where is the money going and what are we spending it for?
00:50:36.000Because they're getting a lot of money.
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00:52:37.000Big victory against the banks trying to plunder.
00:52:41.000And continue their plundering of Iceland, sending shockwaves around the world in a national referendum over the weekend, saying no to the bankers taking over and running their society.
00:52:55.000Coming up in the next 50 minutes of the broadcast, a lamp in the dark by the documentary filmmaker Who made Eye of the Phoenix, Secrets of the Dollar Bill, Riddles in Stone, The Secret Architecture of Washington, D.C., and, of course, the first in the series, America's Secret Beginnings, The New Atlantis.
00:53:17.000All available, discounted, at Infowars.com.
00:53:20.000But this new film goes in another direction.
00:53:24.000We'll be playing some clips of this off the DVD in the background when he joins us today.
00:53:35.000I may let him go about 40 minutes into the interview, though, because I've got news here I've absolutely got to hit on.
00:53:42.000There is just so much going on that we need to cover that we haven't even gotten into yet today.
00:53:51.000In my stacks of news, the legislative front, the open borders, the amnesty, the gun grabbing, the naked body scanners, the police state, secret arrest and torture of citizens being prepared.
00:54:02.000I mean, it is just an all-out power grab going on.
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00:54:58.000The big issue here, and I know you as listeners know this, but our mission is to get this out to the general public.
00:55:20.000Now it's out in the open because it's really starting to clamp down on every facet of our lives.
00:55:26.000Like this article I have here in my stack I'm looking for and I meant to get to and I mentioned it earlier from Of all places, this is from ESPN.
00:55:43.000And we actually covered this months ago, but now it's getting attention because it's on ESPN, and that's good news, that under the Law of the Sea Treaty and separate environmental rules they're trying to pass, because Obama can't get that ratified, they're talking about seizing all inland waterways, lakes, ponds, streams, standing water, It's worse than the Wetlands Act we saw 15 years ago that failed, where if you had rainwater, the feds could come in and not let you use your land or build on it.
00:56:25.000They want control of every facet of your life, and so they tell you, oh, we're taking your land, we're taking your property, we're raising taxes on you to save the earth, and you're going to pay your taxes to these private banks.
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01:00:39.000In a moment we're going to Chris Pinto, an amazing documentary filmmaker.
01:00:42.000We're going to be talking to him and also you guys are welcome to get some of the DVDs or the films that we have at InfoWars.com in there and show a few short clips, a video behind Chris Pinto for presentplanet.tv viewers to see the quality of these films.
01:00:56.000But I mentioned this is the first of the show.
01:01:07.000And it says, when the World Wildlife Fund, a bunch of eugenicists, and the International Fund for Animal Welfare completed their successful campaign in Ontario, they were able to ban many types of hunting.
01:01:18.000And now they're saying it's mean to fish.
01:01:21.000Now there's big trawlers out there in the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic and Pacific that are overfishing.
01:01:29.000This is lakes, ponds, streams, rivers.
01:01:33.000And it goes on to say, now we see NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the administration planning the future of recreational fishing access to America based on a similar agenda of these same groups and other big green anti-use organizations.
01:01:48.000Because if they can train you what type of light bulb you can have, what type of toilet, what type of car, they can do anything.
01:01:53.000Home inspections through an executive order by President Obama.
01:01:58.000direction of fishing is direct parallel to what happened in Canada with hunting.
01:02:02.000The negative economic impacts on hard-working American families and small businesses are being ignored.
01:02:07.000And it goes into the announcements of this unelected panel run by World Wildlife Fund, Greenpeace, Defenders of Wildlife, Pew Environment Group and others produced a document entitled Transition Green.
01:02:19.000And it breaks down what they're going to be doing.
01:03:15.000And again, we're going to show you some clips of that from each of the films in the background while Chris Pinto is talking.
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01:03:42.000In fact, we'll get a document cam shot of this and we'll show the viewers of what's on the cover here.
01:03:48.000And then now, it's intriguing because he goes into a whole separate area, but it ties into all this.
01:03:56.000And I just finished reading a thick encyclopedic level book, A Dark History of the Vatican.
01:04:03.000and some of the things that went on there.
01:04:04.000Now, this is not a Catholic bashing fest, and there have been plenty of atrocities by Protestants in Europe as well, but it's important to understand what's happened to religion and our culture and why the Vatican today is calling for world government.
01:04:16.000And again, I'm not a Catholic, but I'm not here bashing Catholics.
01:04:20.000We've got Pat Robertson saying forced abortion in China is good and socialism is of God and of Obama.
01:04:26.000We have the clergy response teams today.
01:04:28.000Tens of thousands of preachers recruited to tell their flocks, Romans 13, submit to government, turn your guns in, take shots, go to FEMA camps when you're told.
01:04:36.000We broke that four years ago here on Genesis with Pastor Butch Paul with the secret documents and now it's mainstream news.
01:04:42.000But we're going to get into this today, because A Lamp in the Dark is stunning information.
01:04:48.000So we now go to writer-director Christian J. Pinto, who produced the award-winning documentaries that we just mentioned, and he joins us today.
01:05:04.000Again, I'm intrigued, because I know it all ties together, but how does this film Well, I think they dovetail because the whole concept of a New World Order is really Rome's original concept.
01:05:15.000by the Vatican and others, because then the Illuminati group, at least at its inception, was claiming it was anti-Vatican.
01:05:22.000So how do these groups dovetail together?
01:05:25.000Well, I think they dovetail because the whole concept of a New World Order is really Rome's original concept.
01:05:33.000You can trace it back to 1494 when Pope Alexander VI drew a line, literally drew a line down the center of the world map, gave half the world to Spain and the other half to Portugal and told them to go out and conquer everything.
01:05:52.000The claims of the papacy for more than a thousand years have been that the Pope holds the place of Christ and God upon the earth.
01:06:02.000And so he has the power over the world, over all kings and princes and rulers and governors and so on.
01:06:11.000They're all supposed to submit to his authority, whether they know about him or not.
01:06:16.000Some people might remember the film years ago with Richard Chamberlain, Shogun, the big, long six-hour series that was based on a book by James Clavel.
01:06:25.000Well, at one point, the storyline basically is this English sailor Who's stranded on the Isle of Japan, and he learns the ways of their culture and so on.
01:06:36.000And there's all of these Jesuit priests that are there in Japan.
01:06:41.000And they're working, of course, to try and take over the Shoguns and their empire and so on there in Japan.
01:07:27.000Well, let's fast forward for a moment.
01:07:36.000In my research for Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement, we discovered that the Bilderberg Group, with some key people from the Vatican,
01:07:45.000Actually, in the early 50s, and this has now been declassified, that they had the idea for the European Union, and that was the Treaty of Rome, then that was expanded in 1957, when they officially really started setting up the European Union, and that's why a few years ago they had the 50th anniversary in 2007 of the EU, when the EU wasn't officially set up until 2000.
01:08:14.000Yeah, the EU is said to be a total, it is said to be a total Vatican project by, oh, in the book, The Power and the Principality of Europe, that was set forth by an English Conservative Party member, Anthony, oh, I can't remember his last name.
01:08:34.000Why did the Vatican then go after the Templars?
01:08:37.000That's an interesting, that is really said to be the Templars, the suffering of the Templars was said to be more through the King of France, at least from what I've studied of it.
01:08:48.000And the Templars were bringing in, this is in the 1200s now, they had been over in the Middle East.
01:09:11.000That's kind of part of a lot of the research that I do is showing how the New World Order, the way that they're trying to unite the nations is by breaking down all the boundaries that separate men.
01:09:23.000World politics is one of them, but world religion is another.
01:09:27.000And we see the UN pushing this, Maureen Strong pushing it, but separately we see the last couple Popes getting up and having these big conclaves of all the religious leaders.
01:09:38.000They're in Vatican City praying together.
01:09:41.000Right, as they did back in 1986 and then again.
01:09:46.000And then the United Nations, of course, having their big Millennium Summit where they get all the different leaders of the world religions, you know, who claim that they're all praying to the same God.
01:09:57.000But that's all part of this move to create a one-world religion or a world religious belief system that will go hand-in-glove with a world political system.
01:10:08.000But from the beginning, Rome was using Christianity as a political tool once Christians were able to become dominant.
01:10:18.000We're about to go to break, but let's go through the chronological order of what the film covers, because it's key information.
01:10:25.000Well, we do this through the history of the Bible, starting in the first century, showing how the Gospels were set forth, and then how there are a lot of warnings.
01:10:34.000I mean, of course, I'm a Christian, so, you know, I believe the teachings of the Bible, and we show how Jesus and all of the apostles had warned of grievous wolves that would enter into the Church, And that would misuse the Christian faith for their own selfish designs.
01:10:52.000And so those warnings begin, and then we move up forward into the early centuries, and ultimately the conflict, really, in Rome between Christianity and paganism.
01:11:04.000And that conflict came to, or what seemed like it came to an end, with Constantine the Great in 313 AD.
01:11:11.000And Constantine was the, you know, the famous general.
01:11:18.000And then Constantine sees this vision where he sees supposedly a cross emblazoned on the sun, and he hears a voice tell him, in this sign, conquer.
01:11:29.000And so he then adopts the sign of the cross.
01:11:32.000He believes the vision is from Christos, or Christ.
01:11:36.000And he uses this symbol, goes into battle, defeats his enemies, and Rome becomes a single system under a single emperor.
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01:12:59.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
01:13:04.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
01:13:08.000As we're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
01:13:13.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
01:13:19.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
01:13:24.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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01:16:09.000Constantine was the first to legalize Christianity there in Rome, with the Edict of Milan in 313 A.D.
01:16:17.000So he legalizes Christianity, and then Christianity is over time merged with the pagan ideas or the pagan belief system of Rome.
01:16:29.000And Constantine, it's said, if you read different historians, that he confused Christos with the god Mithras.
01:16:37.000Okay, the sun god of the ancient world.
01:16:39.000And there are some, like when you see these big statues of Constantine, there's a very famous head and his arm and leg and this kind of thing.
01:16:48.000These were gigantic statues that he had set up around his empire with him dressed up like Saul Invictus, the sun god.
01:16:56.000Okay, and he believed he was the manifestation of Saul Invictus.
01:16:59.000Well, it's said that Constantine took to himself as Caesar, he became the sole emperor of Rome, He had the title Pontifex Maximus.
01:17:09.000That's the title for the Caesar that meant he was the head of the Pontifical College, the head of the pagan priesthood.
01:17:15.000So he adopted another title as the head of the Christian Church, and he called himself Vicarius Christi, meaning another Christ or the substitute for Christ, one who stands in the place of Christ.
01:17:29.000And so he would govern the pagans and he would govern the Christians with these two titles.
01:17:34.000And then in time, of course, he leaves Rome because of all the politics involved.
01:17:39.000He goes and he founds Constantinople, and then Rome falls to the barbarian tribes and this kind of thing.
01:17:45.000And in the aftermath, the popes arise as the bishops of Rome, and they claim these two titles of Constantine, the Vicar of Christ, Vicarius Christi, and Pontifex Maximus, which they hold to this day.
01:17:59.000That's why the pope is called the Pontiff.
01:18:03.000But anyway, so then from there, this system now, you know, because Constantine had set forth the edict against heretics, and so now heretics before, if you read the New Testament, if somebody's guilty of heresy, you know, they would ask them to depart from the church, or, as in the case of, you know, when the Apostle Paul is at the school of Tyrannus, He just separates the disciples from the unbelievers.
01:18:29.000You know, they would separate themselves from people who disagreed.
01:18:33.000But now Constantine, you know, the state steps in, and Constantine is passing laws that people who disagree on certain doctrinal issues have to be hunted down, arrested, in some cases killed, and so on, for heresy.
01:18:49.000And if you can, to this day, go online and read Constantine's different writings against the heretics, And, you know, he's very aggressive.
01:18:58.000You know, you can see the violence in his words.
01:19:01.000And there are some who believe that that was really the beginning of what would become the Dark Ages, when the Roman Church now would begin to persecute everyone who disagreed with the official state doctrine, and so on.
01:19:17.000And so we take it up, but what we show is that with the formation of the Roman Catholic system, There were still believers, Bible believers, who were never a part of the Roman system.
01:19:30.000And from the histories that we have, many of these groups fled into the north of Italy and the south of France, and they became known as the Polycans, they were known as the Donatists in some cases, the Waldenses, the Albigenses, they've been given different names.
01:19:49.000But probably the Waldenses and the Albigenses are the two most famous.
01:19:54.000And from reading the history from the beginning, the so-called Christian Roman Emperors, they would particularly persecute other Christian sects that they didn't control and ignore the pagans, but then later they started going after everybody?
01:20:15.000We kind of fast forward, because those, from the 5th century up until about the 10th, 11th century, it's difficult to find the records of what happened, you know, fully and completely, and there's a lot of disagreement.
01:20:28.000But the Inquisition begins now with a guy named Dominic Goodsman, who's called St.
01:20:36.000And there were a series of theological debates that were going on between these non-Catholic believers and the Catholic priesthood.
01:20:44.000And they had debates, like public debates, in their towns and so on, in the town of Albi in France.
01:20:51.000And there were sharp disagreements, but the one thing that the Albagenses were known for was that they paid strict attention to the Bible.
01:21:02.000They just believed what the Bible said.
01:21:04.000Whereas the Catholic priesthood would come in with the traditions and the official declarations of the Holy See of Rome and so on and the Popes and whatnot.
01:21:13.000And so in the final debate, Dominic, it was said he lost the debate, or so it's said, and he became so enraged that he swore slavery and death against the Albigensians.
01:21:27.000And then he goes back to Rome, meets with Pope Innocent III, We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
01:21:34.000the beginning of really the Inquisition.
01:21:36.000Okay, let's walk through your film, A Lamp in the Dark, again available at Infowars.com, and the type of persecution that went on.
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01:26:15.000And I know a lot of conservative Catholics that criticize the Pope's calling for New World Order.
01:26:20.000I'm not here to get people fighting with each other, but I have studied quite a bit of history, and we know there was a lot of really bad stuff throughout the Dark Ages and Middle Ages and through that that happened.
01:26:31.000I know in the Netherlands and other places, once the Protestants got in control, they did a lot of the persecution back to Catholics.
01:26:37.000Now, you look at the modern day, This ecumenical, merging the religions, not just different groups of Christians together, this call for world government, this is happening from the Protestants, it's happening from the Catholics, but the Catholic Church is at the center of the call for a new world order, a global government, in their own documents, with the Euro.
01:26:58.000And so, the establishment wants to play people off against each other.
01:27:02.000And, you know, I don't have a religious broadcast.
01:27:07.000And I watched Lamp in the Dark before we carried it, when they asked us to carry it.
01:27:11.000And I found it to be very accurate for my research, so we carry it.
01:27:15.000At the same time, though, I have seen kind of the Christian Zionist arm that's also a luminist.
01:27:23.000You know, saying we've got to have the end of the world, we've got to support Israel no matter what, and then they always put out an anti-Catholic view and claim the Catholic Church wants to run Jerusalem and do all this stuff.
01:27:34.000I mean, it's very sophisticated, and I've been studying it and trying to understand it, and I think That Chris Pinto, with a lamp in the dark, has really done a good job of breaking this down.
01:27:47.000But, I mean, going back to some of the issues, though, that I just raised here.
01:27:52.000That's why I believe in what our founding fathers did, saying freedom of religion.
01:27:56.000That's not what the UN and others are calling for.
01:27:58.000They're saying, no, a one-world religion, where you can be whatever religion you want, but you can't criticize any other religion.
01:28:11.000There's that case over in England of the Christian couple who witnessed to a Muslim woman, and the Muslim woman talked about her faith and the Christians talked about their faith, but now the Muslim woman felt like she was being oppressed because the Christians were criticizing Islam, and then they ended up suffering a certain amount of persecution over there in England.
01:28:31.000They're trying to make it illegal in Canada to read certain Bible verses.
01:28:37.000There's all these calls for censorship that are going on, that once you censor one group, you censor everybody.
01:28:42.000But getting up into the Middle Ages, the Dark Ages, when we start seeing the real persecution.
01:29:06.000Really, it was the establishment of the first police state, if you read some historians.
01:29:10.000That's what they'll say, that the Inquisition, where you developed a system of informants, you developed a police system that was intercontinental.
01:29:19.000There were no boundaries for the Inquisition.
01:29:20.000They could go to any country in Europe and hold people accountable.
01:29:25.000They were kind of like Interpol or the Feds.
01:29:31.000And that's when they began to outlaw the Bible, and that's why they outlawed the Bible.
01:29:37.000The Bible became a forbidden book, as it's called in one of the documentaries.
01:29:42.000And then we saw things like when they wanted to build the new Vatican building, indulgences, get your family out of purgatory, pay all this gold.
01:29:51.000And similarly, we see the UN and the EU selling, and Al Gore admits it, a global religion of Gaia, where they go out and persecute everyone and have a new Inquisition.
01:30:02.000I think it's the same spirit, the same principles involved, ultimately.
01:30:10.000You know, it's been going on for centuries and centuries and centuries, and as we show it in our film, we show the Bible, really, and the Word of God and those who believe it as the center of controversy and the oppression that came against them to forbid anyone from having another opinion.
01:30:30.000And if you follow that history, it brings you up through, you know, the 19th century into modern times.
01:30:36.000I believe this has everything to do with why they've kicked the Bible out of our school system, along with prayer and a lot of other things.
01:31:06.000You have people who believe that the Illuminati was actually formed by the Jesuit order.
01:31:13.000Which was when the Reformation got underway.
01:31:15.000You have these Bible believers, they're preaching, and then they start, the printing press comes along, and they start, you know, manufacturing Bibles faster than they can be destroyed.
01:31:24.000So as a way to control opposition, the Jesuit priest, Adam Weishaupt, sets it up.
01:31:29.000Well, you have the Jesuits were founded to destroy the Reformation, to destroy the Reformers, and those who were opposing Rome.
01:31:38.000Okay, so they launched a counter-Reformation.
01:31:42.000And they started getting into academics and they tried to do it that way, but what was happening was they weren't having success in persuading people to come back to Rome.
01:31:53.000And a lot of countries were being converted to, they were becoming Protestant countries, and they were casting off the authority of the Pope.
01:32:01.000See, because the Pope was a very political figure.
01:32:04.000If the Pope told Uh, a king or a queen or whoever what to do, they were supposed to do it.
01:32:08.000And the Pope was telling people, go and invade that other country, and you kill those people over there, and I give you the command.
01:32:15.000And if you don't obey me, I'll excommunicate you and your soul will be in hell.
01:32:19.000This is what was going on during the Dark Ages.
01:32:21.000So more and more countries were saying, no, we don't believe this anymore, we don't believe the Pope has the authority to do that.
01:32:28.000And they were listening to men like Martin Luther and William Tyndale and Calvin and others.
01:32:35.000The Jesuits had to come up with a plan to somehow or other do something about all of these Protestant kings and queens that were opposing them.
01:32:46.000There are some who believe that the infidelity, which is really what the revolutionaries were about, getting rid of God altogether, just rose up in the midst of all this.
01:32:57.000And decided to get rid of Roman Catholicism, get rid of Protestantism, get rid of all of it, and that that's what the Illuminati was about.
01:33:06.000But then there are others, Alex, who believe because the Illuminati was founded at the University of Ingolstadt by a Jesuit named Adam Weisshaupt.
01:33:18.000And he openly stated that he was going to use the methods of revolution and infiltration and information Warfare that the Jesuits had been perfecting from Sun Tzu's The Art of War that they brought from China and translated, and so on.
01:33:35.000And if you read authors like F. Tupper Saucy, who wrote the book Rulers of Evil, Saucy believes that the Illuminati is really a front organization for the Jesuit order.
01:33:47.000And that the Illuminati, because the Jesuits became so nefarious, they were kicked out of 40 countries throughout Europe, they were kicked out of Japan, The name Jesuit was synonymous with Nazi.
01:33:59.000You know, everybody thought, you know, if you met or knew a Jesuit, you immediately suspected him as a deceiver and a spy or something like that.
01:34:14.000One, above all else, not too much zeal, to be more subtle.
01:34:18.000And they said, let us shun too much light.
01:34:22.000Let's not put ourselves out there so that anybody will know who we are.
01:34:25.000We need to go back into the shadows here.
01:34:28.000And there are some who believe that Weishaupt was an instrument of the Jesuit order who set up the Illuminati as a front organization that could then infiltrate these secret societies like the Freemasons and others and begin to manipulate them to carry out Rome's thousand-year-old agenda of world domination.
01:34:52.000When the Jesuits take their oath, for example, they swear in their oath with a Jesuit general, and the general tells them, go into all the world and claim all lands in the name of the Pope.
01:35:05.000He who will not accept him as Christ, vice-regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.
01:35:10.000And this is why it is said you find Jesuits in every corner of the world, with schools and universities and colleges and so on.
01:35:18.000This is why they have gone into all the world.
01:35:21.000is to dominate the world for the Pope.
01:35:27.000And that's covered in a lamp in the dark, continue.
01:35:31.000Yeah, so, and what's interesting is you have all of these secret organizations that will admit, like the Illuminati openly admitted, that they adopted their methodology from the Jesuit order, that they studied what the Jesuits did and how they did it.
01:35:47.000The Rockefellers, There's a book written on the life of John D. Rockefeller, how he developed his whole Rockefeller organization around the discipline of the Jesuit order.
01:35:59.000My wife works for an accounting firm, and when she was going through college, she remembers these big accounting firms talking about how they study the Jesuit order to develop their systems for finance and so on.
01:36:13.000There was a guy, Alberto Izaga, like a year and a half ago.
01:36:18.000Who went nuts suddenly, over in London, and killed his two-year-old daughter.
01:36:23.000And it was a bizarre case, but he was like a millionaire finance guy, and worked for some powerful company.
01:36:31.000And when they arrested him, while he was on trial, he was muttering that he was part of an international conspiracy to take over the financial world, and he was working with a secret group of financiers Absolutely.
01:36:44.000who were using the methods of the Jesuit order to take over the financial world.
01:36:49.000Well, I read Heinz Hobel's Order of the Death Said, and it had the Nazi documents where Hitler modeled the Gestapo and his secret police SS off of the Jesuits.
01:36:59.000There's a number of books written about that.
01:37:02.000And we talk about that in The Lamp in the Dark as well.
01:37:06.000And that whole relationship, a lot of people are shocked when they learn about, you know, the idea that the Vatican was working with Hitler, and that they had a concordat with Germany and so on.
01:37:18.000But Adrian Hilton, in his book, The Principle and the Power of Europe, the guy who's talking about the European Union, he says the way to understand that is to go back and look at the relationship of the Vatican with Charlemagne.
01:37:33.000Charlemagne, who was the first Holy Roman Emperor, he reigned over Germany.
01:37:38.000So all the way back, 8th century AD, the Pope crowned Charlemagne as, you know, the first Holy Roman Emperor.
01:37:47.000And from then on, so many of these European families, if you get the National Geographic documentary inside the Vatican, And it's during the time of Pope John Paul II.
01:38:00.000You see all of this, these royal members of the European families and so on, who go to the Vatican, and they all bow down, and they kiss the Pope's ring, you know, and they venerate him like he's a god.
01:38:14.000Well, let's expand on that, because I want to, again, from your research, understand something.
01:38:19.000We know that the King of England, Eber the VIII, was a Nazi.
01:38:28.000The House of Windsor is really the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
01:38:31.000For those that don't know, why then, if the Vatican was so powerful and setting up this continental empire through Germany and through Mussolini, why then did England and the U.S.
01:38:42.000turn against them when we know the Illuminists were involved, as your films show, In a lot of the formation of the United States and the Freemasons, if that's all controlled by the Vatican, then why, and we know there was a secret peace treaty now declassified between England and Germany, so why then was Hitler rebuffed?
01:39:02.000Because it does appear there are some power shifts here.
01:39:05.000Clearly Bilderberg is dominated by the papacy, but then it interlocks with the United States, and so do these groups fight sometimes, or what's going on?
01:39:15.000It seems, you know, there are different theories that I've read, because that's a great question.
01:39:19.000It's the one that, you know, sort of drives the research, so much of it.
01:39:23.000But from the arguments that I've heard, it's kind of like the ordo ob cao, order out of chaos.
01:39:29.000You create the chaos, and from that, you know, through the chaos that you've created, you establish your world order.
01:39:37.000And there are some people who believe that Germany Was being used.
01:39:42.000There are some who even think that Germany was used specifically because it was Martin Luther, who was a German, who from Germany launched the Protestant Reformation.
01:39:51.000Well, it was... We actually know from the Lord Milner group that right after World War I, these are public documents, they said, we're going to finance a war leader, we're going to build Germany up, and then we're going to destroy them, just like World War I. And so it was a repeat of that.
01:40:11.000That concurs with the research that I've been getting and the theories that people believe that the reason Rome and the Jesuits wanted revenge on Germany, that they wanted to use Germany, if you will, as this kind of instrument of destruction, Was partly revenge for the Reformation, because it was from Germany that the reform was launched, you know?
01:40:37.000But I mean, why do that when Germany was pretty much a Catholic country at that time?
01:40:43.000And through the World Council of Churches the Rockefellers set up, most of the Protestant churches are New World Order now.
01:40:49.000I mean, because you're going back to the Jesuit stealth mode.
01:40:53.000Right, now that's a very good question, and I wish I had a more detailed answer for you.
01:40:58.000I think there's something to the doctrine.
01:41:01.000If you study the Jesuits in history, they were always known for their revenge, and that they would not stop until they got vengeance on whoever it was that had opposed them.
01:41:13.000And this is why John Adams says in his quote, he says that all the monarchs of Europe trembled in fear over the idea of Jesuit assassination.
01:41:23.000Because if you cross these guys, they didn't care how long it took.
01:41:27.000It could take a year, five years, ten years.
01:41:29.000They would come after you, and they would find a way to get you.
01:41:34.000One of the popes that suppressed them signed a bull, you know, of eternal excommunication for the Jesuits.
01:41:52.000The way that I see it, there's a medal that they, like a medal that they strike in Rome, or at least in the 19th century, where you have the Pope sitting up on a high altar in St.
01:42:04.000Peter's, and all these cardinals kneeling down in front of him.
01:42:07.000And there's a Latin phrase that says, Whom they create, they adore.
01:42:20.000The Jesuits, if you read their writings, they believe the Pope is kind of like their idol.
01:42:25.000Okay, just as a man would take a, you know, a chisel and carve out an idol from stone and then set it up on an altar, that's what the Pope is for them.
01:42:34.000They create him, they put him up on an altar, and he's got to be the Pope that they want him to be.
01:43:51.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
01:43:54.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
01:43:56.000Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
01:44:03.000This is our last chance to not relive history.
01:44:07.000As we're finishing off this agenda, we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
01:44:12.000We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
01:44:18.000I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
01:44:24.000For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world governments.
01:44:37.000And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
01:44:40.000Today, it seems like nobody does care.
01:44:42.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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01:47:12.000Other points you want to make about A Lamp in the Dark?
01:47:15.000Well, one point that I wanted to make, just to address something that you've been saying, Alex, we try to make the point in the film that most all of your major reformers through the Middle Ages and the Dark Ages were Catholic priests, Guys like John Wycliffe, William Tyndale, Martin Luther, Jan Hus, Jerome of Prague, all of these were Catholic priests who began reading the Bible.
01:47:40.000And they just fell in love with the Word of God and they began to speak out.
01:47:47.000And some of them never actually even left the Catholic priesthood.
01:47:50.000They were defrocked, like Tyndale and so on.
01:47:53.000Even in the 19th century, Charles Chinoquy, who, you know, wrote the book, 50 Years in the Church of Rome, where he's trying to warn America.
01:48:01.000About really Rome's infiltration of the United States and their plan to take over the country.
01:48:07.000Well, I know one thing, and this is what I really don't like.
01:48:11.000The Catholic Church is promoting breaking down our borders, not just in Europe, but with Mexico and bankrupting our nation and making us a third world police state like Latin America.
01:48:20.000That's something you can definitely nail on the Vatican's door.
01:48:24.000Well, they believe, those who research that from what I'm reading, they believe that the influx of the Irish immigrants, the Italian immigrants, These are all Catholics coming in.
01:48:36.000And that the Popes, for over a hundred years, have wanted to flood this country with Roman Catholics.
01:48:41.000And they believe that's the reason why they want all of the Mexicans to come in through the border to build up the Catholic population so they'll vote according to the commandments of the papacy.
01:48:55.000Here's a picture I would give, Alex, very quickly.
01:48:57.000and supporting Obama with this new fake coffee party, stealing our idea to actually help the Tea Party be more constitutional and take it back away from the Republicans.
01:49:07.000Again, I'm trying to figure all this out, Chris.
01:49:11.000Well, with Rome, here's a picture I would give, Alex, very quickly.
01:49:16.000When the Pope came to America, George Bush, the conservative Republican president, came and met him, right, and honored him greatly.
01:49:23.000And with him was Nancy Pelosi, the ultimate left-wing liberal, who came and bowed down and kissed his ring.
01:49:30.000People often think of Rome as being conservative, but they forget the liberal side of Rome.
01:49:35.000The Kennedy family is very Roman Catholic, and they're very pro-abortion, very liberal, and so on.
01:49:43.000It was Notre Dame that brought Obama in and gave him a uh you know his honorary degree and had him you know speak there even though he holds these wild abortion views and so on rome tries to grab everybody on the right hand and on the left hand and bring them all together into this world system but as you said just just as it was 500 years ago there are a lot of catholics worldwide who are very conservative and are upset about what's happening absolutely absolutely
01:50:11.000And it's often said that if Catholics in America knew fully what the Vatican was up to, they would be outraged.
01:51:56.000The entire world is watching what's just happened in Iceland.
01:52:10.000Goldman Sachs and others went in in the last five years, got the country deep in debt in derivatives knowing they were going to implode the derivatives.
01:52:25.000This is just the wealth they get with all this fiat financial made-off Ponzi scheme garbage.
01:52:33.000It's that once it implodes, the banks come in and loan more money to the government, literally indenturing the people as slaves.
01:52:44.000And the whole world is watching because Greece, the people are revolting.
01:52:49.000Ten years ago, Goldman Sachs went in, set up a system, got them deep in debt.
01:52:55.000Now they're saying the roads, the infrastructure, the famous places, the islands must be given to the private bankers.
01:53:02.000Top Democratic and Republican lawmakers are saying the same thing is now going to happen here.
01:53:07.000We're a year and a half into the banker takeover of October 2008.
01:53:09.000The financial terrorism, where they said, give us unlimited trillions or we'll have a depression.
01:53:15.000We're going to use it to unfreeze the mortgage market.
01:53:17.000Then they clamped down on the mortgage market even more, hoarded the money, and they won't say where the money went.
01:53:25.000So here's the headline, Iceland votes no to debt deal for collapsed bank.
01:53:30.000Now, a year ago they declared anti-terror powers on Iceland, froze people's bank accounts, wouldn't let them get their own money out, saying your money is ours for the Dutch, British and US banks.
01:53:41.000And Birgitta Jones-Dottier and others ran for office.
01:53:46.000She is the current chairman of the Civic Movement Parliamentary Group on the Icelandic Parliament, leading the charge against these people.
01:53:53.000They've got other initiatives to make themselves a free press zone against the shutdown of the Internet.
01:53:58.000She's with us for the next hour, joins us via video link from Iceland.
01:54:04.000And Ms. Jones-Dottier, thanks for coming on with us.
01:54:12.000We're about to go to break, but this is huge what happened, because if the rest of the world takes what you've done as an example, we could end up actually routing this group of criminals.
01:54:24.000I mean, I hope that what we did by forcing the government to allow the nation to vote on this will be an inspiration for other people, and it was actually More than 60%, almost 63% of the nation showed up to the polls.
01:54:51.000Tell folks specifically what happened.
01:54:53.000They basically were saying no of privatization or socialization of private debt.
01:55:00.000Or in other words, to bail out the bankers.
01:55:03.000The socialization of private debt, or the bankers come in, sell a bunch of derivatives, and then claim the people owe it.
01:55:11.000Well, the thing is, we had some of the Atlantic bankers decided to branch out because of EU regulations, branch out to Europe, open internet bank accounts there, and then when these accounts collapsed, The British government claims that the Icelandic nation should fork out the space guarantee for this.
01:55:37.000And you have to bear in mind there are like 317,000 people living in Iceland, and the accounts in Holland and Britain were around 320,000.
01:55:47.000So each Icelander should have shouldered around 20,000 euros per person.
01:55:53.000And to add insult to injury, they use anti-terror laws to try to take people's money.
01:55:59.000Yeah, what they did just shortly after the collapse, Mr. Darling, the UK finance minister decided to, and Mr. Brown, a minister of the UK, decided to put terrorist acts on Iceland, which classified us among other Well, let's break down the history of what happened, what it's led to, where you go from here.
01:56:25.000And what this did during our middle of financial meltdown in Iceland was that it dried up all loan lines to Iceland, and we were facing food shortages and medicine shortages.
01:56:37.000Well, let's break down the history of what happened, what it's led to, where you go from here.
01:57:37.000And the Congress is saying, "Who do we make the checkout to?" Today seems like nobody does care.
01:57:42.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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02:00:41.000Continuing, recap what the banks did, the fraud, the year of protest, the terrorism act used, the threats by the banks to shut your country down, food shortages, and the people standing strong.
02:00:56.000Well, I guess it all began... Well, I'm sure many of you listeners have seen the film about Enron.
02:01:04.000And Enron was about the same size as the population in Iceland.
02:01:08.000So, when we watched Enron on the national TV in Iceland, very many people felt that we were like the regular staff of Enron, not knowing what the tops were up to.
02:01:20.000And when everything collapsed in August 2008, Most people in Iceland had no idea what was going on, so it came as a complete shock to the nation.
02:01:30.000So what had happened five years prior, the banks were privatized with a little help from the Independence Party in Iceland and Progressive Party.
02:01:42.000They basically donated the banks at really very good prices, wholesale prices to their friends and allies.
02:01:52.000And because we are like 80% of our regulations around banks are based on the EU regulations, they managed to start to branch out to other countries.
02:02:04.000And they were basically, like very many of the bankers, high on world domination.
02:02:12.000I don't know, fantasies, and they wanted to take over the banks, the bank sector in the UK and in Europe, and I guess they didn't make a lot of friends and, you know, in general they were quite naive and they had no understanding about how the system worked in general.
02:02:29.000So it was like school children running amok with a lot of, you know, virtual money.
02:02:35.000Which they sort of sucked out of regular bank or, you know, people that save their money in banks and so forth.
02:02:43.000And they actually conned people into moving their savings into these unsaved accounts and it especially targeted the elderly people and immigrants and so forth.
02:02:55.000But that was during the last year of this insanity.
02:02:58.000So people in general thought that we were going through this incredible big boom.
02:03:04.000Which I guess was largely just an illusion.
02:03:11.000They offered 100% loans on mortgages and so forth and foreign currency loans on cars.
02:03:17.000And right now, very many people are facing foreclosures.
02:03:21.000They are facing foreclosures because of If they, you know, went bankrupt on a car loan.
02:03:29.000Because in Iceland we don't have that wonderful legislation you have where you can actually return the keys and then, you know, off your house and then you are sort of free.
02:03:37.000They will follow you with your debt for the rest of your life and you will never get a new one.
02:03:41.000And to be clear, the banks have done this in Argentina, in Greece, in Spain, in the US.
02:03:47.000They make This fiat derivatives bubble, it's just made-up crud paper.
02:03:58.000And then it came out that Goldman Sachs and others, by design, Mainstream News, McClatchy Newspapers and others, they then blow it out at the time of their choosing and use the implosion to then come in and buy everything up.
02:04:10.000And Iceland is the only modern country to be put through this scam to say no.
02:04:24.000But in general, what happened, you know, as I'm sure that most of the listeners to the show understand how the IMF works, so what happened after the Terrorist Act was placed on Iceland, the UK and the Netherlands government said, with a little help from our Nordic friends, said, OK, if you want to get any loans or the loan line is open, you're going to have to go into an IMF program.
02:04:52.000And in order for you to go into the IMF program, you're going to have to solve this ISAF dispute, which is this dispute about the banks that were in the UK and Holland.
02:05:02.000And so let me just stop you for a moment.
02:05:03.000Going back a year ago, the food's not being shipped in, everything's falling apart, they're saying we've got to sell all the government assets, take citizens' tax money, all for these banks.
02:05:15.000And the BBC reported Iceland, Britain's unlikely new enemy, this is from a year ago, And it says, until a few days ago, Britain was admired and respected by the average Icelander.
02:05:25.000But the UK's move to seize the assets of this isolated European state have provoked a backlash, a feeling of escalating resentment.
02:05:32.000They, quote, treated us like terrorists, grabbing the government accounts, grabbing people's bank accounts, saying, we're going to take your money under terror laws and give it to the bankers.
02:05:46.000It was, they took over an Icelandic bank called the Heritable Bank in London.
02:05:52.000But what it did, it dried up the credit lines to Iceland, the loan lines, so everybody had to fork up cash during time of complete financial... But that's what it said, that in some cases people couldn't even get their money out for a while, though.
02:06:08.000Students and people from Iceland living abroad could not get money out of their internet banks and so forth, so they had to either start or rely on friends and family if they had any in the area.
02:06:21.000But it also created A very difficult paradox because the Social Democratic Party that is in power now in Iceland have just one dream and that is to join the European Union.
02:06:36.000So within all of this turmoil They decided let's apply for an application or to join the UA.
02:06:45.000Just like Greece 10 years ago, you've got to go into debt and sign the deals with these bankers as part of their rules to get into the EU.
02:06:55.000Well, also how they basically used it.
02:06:59.000The UK and the Ireland governments basically blackmailed us with the EU application as well.
02:07:05.000They said, we will not support your EU application unless you decide to go to court over ISAFE.
02:07:15.000And unless you just choose to You're going to have to either choose to become isolated, become, you know, North Cuba, or Cuba of the North, or do as we tell you.
02:07:31.000And that is, they actually, they went even so far as wanting to make a hell of a lot of money out of us by giving us, forcing us to pay huge interest on this.
02:07:44.000But we managed to stop that and right now I am in a committee of the leadership working on finding a solution to this and I find it completely unacceptable that the Icelandic nation will take on any burden from this ordeal.
02:08:05.000A member of the Icelandic Parliament continuing.
02:08:13.000As you just told us, this is completely freaking the bankers out, because if countries realize this has been done by fraud, and that it's a made-off scheme, and that the money's not owed, the next step is talking about prosecuting the bankers that Ron Paul and others are talking about in this country.
02:08:32.000Well, the interesting thing and really disturbing thing about the bankers in Iceland, or the Icelandic bankers, is that none of their assets have been frozen.
02:08:42.000They are, most of them are living in London, and as many people know, London is one of, ranked among the fifth best tax havens in the world.
02:08:54.000They're actually getting back their companies.
02:08:56.000They're getting back their power in a lot of write-offs and that is making a lot of people very upset and angry.
02:09:04.000The bankers that sold you out in your own country, most of them don't even live in your country and the banks know that they're their minions, so they're staying in power.
02:09:14.000Yeah, I mean, they lost the banks, but they haven't lost their companies.
02:09:18.000So, I mean, one of the oligarchs, the Icelandic oligarchs, he owns the biggest independent media outlet in Iceland.
02:09:27.000So you can imagine what sort of news you're getting from that outlet.
02:09:30.000But the good news is 90 plus percent vote against him.
02:09:51.000And I guess, I don't know, it actually surprised me that the President of Iceland decided to listen to the nation, but there was a huge petition.
02:10:00.000More than 60,000 Icelanders called on him to allow us to have this national referendum.
02:10:07.000And it was interesting, there was actually some documents leaked from the U.S.
02:10:14.000Embassy in Iceland, Reykjavik, Iceland, and I found it on Wikileaks.org, and it was interesting how the British and the U.S.
02:10:25.000Treasury were very much interested in doing everything in their power to stop The National Referendum.
02:10:32.000And then the same thing applied to, I got some information that I don't know if you're familiar with the Paris Club, but they were very keen on stopping this National Referendum because, especially in Europe, they're very much afraid that like Greece and Ireland, the people there will demand to have a National Referendum about the situation in their countries.
02:11:00.000We're about to go to break, but start telling us about the documents and the Paris Club and how the banks don't like what's happened in Iceland.
02:11:11.000And the Paris Club, Carter, is a very interesting club.
02:11:15.000It is a secret club run out of Paris with some of the most powerful nations in the world and they determine the interest rates on nations that have debt moratorium.
02:11:28.000And apparently it is The case of Iceland and that national referendum has been discussed in that club.
02:11:35.000I did a research trying to figure out who is in the club, who attended the meetings, and it is impossible to find any information, at least on the internet.
02:11:44.000So I would actually call on, if anybody that's listening to this has any information about the Paris Club, please provide me with that information.
02:11:51.000We'll give your email out before you leave.
02:11:53.000A lot more coming up with a member of the Icelandic Parliament.
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02:16:02.000Can the Ken Lay, Bernie Madoff types that are running the international banking scam take over the planet, set up a bank of the world that you pay all your carbon taxes to?
02:16:15.000Can they make Spain, the U.S., England, Iceland, Argentina, Nigeria pay 30 plus percent compounded interest on fraudulent crud they created and sold to governments?
02:16:32.000Why aren't they being arrested for the fraud?
02:16:34.000Why aren't countries saying, no, we're not going to give in to your financial terrorism?
02:16:38.000They told Iceland they would destroy them in the last year.
02:16:43.000If they didn't capitulate and basically become debt slaves of these people in perpetuity.
02:16:48.000Iceland had a referendum, 93% said no over the weekend.
02:16:55.000And one of the ladies who came from nowhere, just like you can do as citizens around the world, with the truth, founded a party, is the leader of it, one of the main groups that got this done.
02:17:06.000Is Birgitta Jones-Dottir joining us from Iceland, and we'll give you her email and website before she leaves us later in the hour, so that you can send her any intel, because we're all working together on this.
02:17:18.000We'll talk about some other initiatives in Iceland, it being a beacon, a hub of freedom.
02:17:22.000So tell us about the threats, what led up to the referendum, what the referendum states, and now where you go from here.
02:17:31.000Well, what led to the referendum was that basically we had a contract made between the nations last summer and it was so bad that the Parliament actually had to spend two or three months making amendments to it in order for it to be safe for us to pass it.
02:17:52.000And it still had that incredibly high interest and so forth, but we did put some roof on the payment in accordance with GDP, so if there was no growth in Iceland, then we wouldn't pay anything during those years.
02:18:06.000However, it was extremely bad and we're still paying 5.5% interest.
02:18:20.000So just paying the interest would have, they're like, okay, so 317,000 people in Iceland, 80,000 Icelandic taxpayers would be paying only the interest of this ISAFE deal.
02:18:34.000And that's the same model they used in all these other countries, third world countries, where you'll have a billion dollar loan backed by nothing from the IMF or World Bank to say Nigeria and then 20 years later they owe 50 something billion on 1 billion dollars.
02:18:53.000And the thing is that the IMF, which is supposed to be, you know, supposed to be an institute, you know, something that all nations that are part of it pay into every year, and it's supposed not to be interfering between states or between countries.
02:19:10.000But the British, and they are a big shareholder in it, and they have been using it as, you know, to blackmail us into submission.
02:19:18.000And that upset Icelanders tremendously because most Icelanders are not very happy or keen to be in an IMF program to begin with.
02:19:25.000Because being in an IMF program means that there is a complete erosion of everything that we know as a welfare system.
02:19:35.000And before all of this, we had a very good educational system, very good healthcare.
02:19:40.000Everybody had the same access to healthcare.
02:19:42.000I would get the same doctor as the president without paying anything.
02:19:45.000So we feel that all of that is going to be lost if we don't stand up to these forces we're dealing with.
02:19:54.000And I actually put a proposal in Parliament last week about finding a plan B to get rid of the IMF.
02:20:02.000Because there's a lot of fantastic experts, economists like Joseph Stiglitz and many more who have offered to help us find a solution that would be different than... And he said the banks are engaging in criminal activity and the Federal Reserve is destroying America.
02:20:18.000He's a Nobel Prize winner for those who don't know.
02:20:22.000I actually had the privilege of meeting him last year and also John Perkins.
02:20:27.000And John Perkins said that we should form an alliance with countries that are facing similar situations as we are in.
02:20:35.000And I think that is actually a very good idea.
02:20:38.000And I've been trying to encourage this government, which is a left-wing government, Which should actually be fighting very much against having an IMF program in Iceland, which the IMF program goes very much into privatization of everything.
02:20:56.000You know, really the spirit in Iceland right now, having only like 1.3% of the nation saying yes to this ISA for deal, And 93% saying no.
02:21:06.000There is really a spirit of or demand from the general public that the parties move beyond party politics and start to work for us, not I and I and I. It's really a time for parties and people to start to focus on joint solutions beyond party politics.
02:21:25.000You've got to circle the wagons against the bankers.
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02:25:11.000We've also got callers like Rick and Herman and others for our guest, Birgitta Jones-Dottir, member of the Icelandic Parliament, and that is coming up in one moment.
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02:26:42.000I got a lot of questions from Twitter and emails and callers that want to talk to Ms.
02:26:48.000Jones-Dottir, but going back to the member of the Icelandic Parliament, one of the main leaders successfully getting this referendum through, How excited are the people about this referendum and how is the establishment, the banking cartel, striking back?
02:27:08.000It was a historical day and we had a little get-together on the Saturday night and the mood was fantastic.
02:27:21.000In general, I really hope that we can keep the spirit of The nation joining together and we need to move that ambience into Parliament.
02:27:31.000And into the government as well, so that they carry on the message from the nation.
02:27:37.000The bankers haven't really said much right now.
02:27:41.000I guess that they are planning their next strike.
02:27:45.000However, they're using the British and the Dutch government in their favor.
02:27:50.000And it was a bit sad that our democratically elected Prime Minister decided to sit home, sulking, instead of participating in this historical moment.
02:28:01.000And despite her doing that, and thus giving a strong message to the biggest party in Iceland, people decided to go out and vote anyway.
02:28:13.000But there are very many exciting things happening in Iceland, such as we just spoke for a proposal which we call the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative, which has gained worldwide attention, where we're suggesting that Iceland will take the lead in the freedom of speech, freedom of information and
02:28:35.000Freedom of expression by actually modernizing and pulling together the best possible legislation to protect sources, journalists, whistleblowers, publishers and ISP hosts in order to get that information out to the general public.
02:28:54.000In fact, I have the article right here, Icelandic Modern Media Initiative, saying the West is moving in Europe, England, the U.S.
02:29:01.000and Canada and Australia to censor the Internet, to shut down free speech.
02:29:07.000Wired Magazine last week had the headline, Cybersecurity, the end of the open Internet.
02:29:19.000We want people to move here and come here and put their servers here.
02:29:22.000Really, as an information revolution, the people are finding the power they have to say no to the banks, and this is really growing.
02:29:30.000Yeah, and I really hope that it... I mean, for some reason Icelanders are right now a bit shy about placing themselves as doing anything that would be considered the best.
02:29:43.000They don't want to fall in the same pit.
02:29:45.000So I guess the most sceptical people about this proposal are Icelanders.
02:29:51.000We, however, managed to get all the parties in Iceland on this.
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02:32:22.000Birgitta, going back to you, here's a Twitter question from E9Adam.
02:32:27.000What's the consequences of not conforming to EU demands?
02:32:33.000Well, there's been a lot of things, consequences, you know, scenarios told to the nation.
02:32:43.000I seriously have a feeling, because of this very strong signal from the Icelandic nation, and actually a very little interest among the nation to join the EU, that there was actually a statement made by the chief of the EU application So first they were threatening to not let you in.
02:33:04.000Now that you don't want in, they're saying, oh no, go ahead and come in.
02:34:21.000So it was a giant, just like the banks here that have robbed us, are all recording record profits, the same banks that are trying to rob you.
02:34:29.000I mean, that is such a key point that it turns out that they had the assets to begin with.
02:34:35.000Yeah, and the thing is that they actually decided, or Darling, the financial minister of the UK, he decided to move money within his own ministry and then earmark some of it, you know, 700 billion Icelandic to the Icelandic nation and then expect us to pay full interest, really high interest of that.
02:34:58.000Brilliant scheme, but we will not do it.
02:35:01.000Well, that's another exactly you're wise to it Americans should get wise as well.
02:35:05.000The collapse of Iceland was a private matter Why do they want the people to pay it is a question from resist archipelago?
02:35:14.000Well, I mean, in general, like every time you look at how the IMF functions, and I was actually reading a secret document linked to Wikileaks, which is a brilliant source if you want to sort of dig deeper into the real conspiracies of our world, and it was a manual from the uh... the military sector in the u.s.
02:35:36.000uh... talking about unconventional warfare and uh... in the unconventional warfare the section about financial uh... warfare they talk about the IMF as one of their choice weapons uh... so you know I encourage people to study how the IMF functions.
02:36:18.000I have a question that has to do with one of your Twitter questions.
02:36:22.000About, I don't know if you have, is it a president that runs Iceland?
02:36:27.000If the leader of Iceland, do they call him a president or?
02:36:29.000Well, we have a president and then we have a, which is, doesn't really have a lot of power, but the main power lies with the Prime Minister of Iceland and the Finance Minister, they sort of co-share their power.
02:36:44.000Okay, well here's the subject that I have here is, For Alex also, I don't know if your staff that watched the whole Benedict Beck last night, at the end of his show he was discussing the 93% voted no to pay it back and the 1% voted for it.
02:37:05.000And then at the end of that part of his segment he did mention that the leader of Iceland said that they will repay it.
02:37:13.000Was he saying this is good because he supported the banker bailout?
02:37:17.000Yeah, I don't know if that... But I mean, he always flip-flops, and he's calling for new taxes to pay the bankers, value-added VAT.
02:37:26.000I mean, did Beck imply it was bad that Iceland said no?
02:37:30.000No, he did not imply that, but he did mention that the leader of Iceland said that they will pay it anyway, and he was just kind of, you know... And so I don't know if he was doing a flip-flop like... So was he supportive of Iceland?
02:38:02.000I'm going to go with my comment first.
02:38:04.000Did you see the article about how the state might not be returning some of the illegal tax money that the U.S. citizens are paying to the bankers, that they may actually hold it due to their state deficits?
02:39:03.000Birgitta comments on what he just said.
02:39:05.000How do we mimic and learn from your success?
02:39:09.000Exactly like you said, just go and do it.
02:39:12.000I mean, we had eight weeks before election, we had no money, but we used the internet, we used all the resources we possibly could do, and we went and talked to people everywhere, and basically because people were hungry for change, You could involve so many people and what we decided to do was not to hang our agenda on left or right politics.
02:39:36.000We decided to have an agenda, a checklist, a sort of hit and run movement that would go inside, for example, the Parliament and try to implement real changes there.
02:39:46.000It's simple, you didn't know the money and you're not going to pay it.
02:40:04.000Well, ICAN was always the home to Figueroas, now seems to be the home to Freedom.
02:40:09.000And I just want to say that I've known a lot of Icelandic people, and I think that we as people who travel, we should visit ICAN and help support it.
02:40:17.000I'm just wondering, If we go there, I know there are issues with our credit cards being honored in Iceland.
02:40:22.000I'm just wondering, what are the day-to-day effects that Icelanders are feeling from this whole situation?
02:40:27.000Yeah, tell folks what the... I mean there was food shortages, everything.
02:40:32.000Well, we have all the credit lines opened again, and because it's a relatively small system, we could quite quickly recover or get back on track.
02:40:45.000There are no problems with any cards now or anything like that, so you can easily use your American credit card in Iceland, or any credit card.
02:40:55.000Well, the big problem we're facing now is that, you know, before the collapse we had like 1% unemployment.
02:41:02.000In one month it shot up to 10% and now we're dealing with something around 14%.
02:41:08.000And people are, you know, facing foreclosures and the government isn't really are capable of dealing with these problems because we're within this IMF program and they're keeping the interest rates really high, which is a total fail in a situation like this, where the interest rates should be similar as your interest rates, almost zero.
02:41:32.000So we are, you know, before, like in 2007, we were ranked according to the UN standard as the most developed nation in the world.
02:41:46.000There is, like, one of the richest nations in the world.
02:41:49.000So this is a huge leap in a really short period of time.
02:42:09.000First World, the only First World country in Latin America, Argentina has been destroyed by them.
02:42:15.000And we see them holding you hostage, cutting off the credit cards, cutting off the trade, trying to force you into submission, but you said no.
02:42:25.000So it is important for people to support what you're doing.
02:42:28.000We're going to come back in a final segment with our guest.
02:42:31.000Earlier this morning, I got a call from Tyrell Ventura wanted to talk to me and I was on a break.
02:44:37.000And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
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02:46:02.000It's Dick Russell sent us this, the co-author with Jesse Ventura, of American Conspiracies that we're selling out of the gates, discounted at InfoWars.com.
02:46:11.000Five dollars off the book, get a free film of your choice, DVD, at InfoWars.com.
02:46:18.000And this is, hello, I'm the co-author of the book American Conspiracies with Jesse Ventura, wanted you to know about this.
02:46:23.000He sent this to our office, and the Huffington Post Did an earlier review of the book.
02:46:29.000This review was just a part of a chapter, and they said, Huffington Post's editorial policy laid out in blogger guidelines prohibits the promulgation of conspiracy theories, including those about 9-11.
02:46:45.000They invited Ventura to do this, and then when they saw it, took it down.
02:46:49.000That's why this material is important.
02:46:50.000That's why Iceland moving for freedom is important.
02:46:54.000Birgitta Jones, Dr. Ayer, I cannot describe how wonderful this success is.
02:46:58.000I know you've got another hard road ahead of you, but the success you've had is a beacon of liberty and resistance worldwide to the parasitic banks.
02:47:10.000I really hope that it will be an inspiration for others and I really carry on my call for support and that people will follow what will be happening in Iceland because I think it has all the support we've felt from around the world, from the general public,
02:47:28.000Supporting the Icelandic general public is extremely meaningful and we set up this website, Save the People of Iceland, and we read some of the quotes from there.
02:47:42.000It was an official petition, a support petition, and it was amazing to hear.
02:48:44.000Jesse Ventura on with us for a full hour this Friday.
02:48:48.000And I've been wanting to get the co-author of the book on as well.
02:48:51.000We'll try to get him on tomorrow or the next day or maybe even on with Ventura briefly on Friday to talk about this censorship that is going on.
02:49:02.000And again, retransmission is about to start in a minute on the Internet streams at Infowars.com with Anthony Schaefer, Lieutenant Carlson.
02:49:46.000If Americans stop caring about football and their favorite sitcom as much, you might have a financial future.
02:49:52.000If not, you're going to be bankrupted and totally enslaved by these bankers.
02:49:57.000You can Google Birgitta Jones, Dr. Ear, find all her sites, other material, save the people of Iceland.
02:50:02.000You can find those sites with a simple web search as well.
02:50:06.000And again, we'll continue to have her pop in with reports for us from Iceland, the front lines in the fight against the global banking dictatorship, openly announcing world government that we are resisting here, ladies and gentlemen.
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