Alan W. Watt is a writer, philosopher, and conspiracy theorist. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, and a frequent guest on Conspiracy Theories. In this episode, he talks about the rise of the globalist agenda, the use of collectivist tactics, and the need for social control.
00:00:28.000And so that's why when I get Alan Watt on, I know he knows what he's talking about.
00:00:32.000Because he knows the exact same info I know, but from sometimes a different perspective, and his own way of delivering it.
00:00:38.000And so I've been asking some of the questions here.
00:00:40.000I want him to get into whatever he thinks is most important, and news that's happened lately, and things that are developing, and where he sees the world, what he thinks of these shootings, and at the Pentagon, and the kamikaze attack, and the calls for censoring the web.
00:00:54.000But you were getting into anti-social behavior.
00:00:57.000They now call taking a photo of your child in the U.S.
00:01:01.000or in England at a park anti-social pedophilia.
00:01:05.000They're arresting people who take photos of their daughters in bikinis in their own pool.
00:01:10.000That's now illegal, though there's not a law.
00:01:12.000They're now demonizing, I mean, it's political correctness into every level, where they're just coming after the citizenry.
00:01:22.000Yeah, this is the Fabian technique that was also used in the Soviet system, where they believe that through scientific alteration of the mind itself, through different techniques, they can create the type of person they want.
00:01:37.000And it's a form of political correctness.
00:01:39.000Now, they're trying it out extensively, In China, China was the prototype model after the Soviet Union for this more advanced form of collectivism, where everyone thinks the same, says the same things, behaves the same way, even sometimes dresses the same way, depends on the era.
00:01:57.000But they had two men working at the United Nations who dreamed up the idea to test out on China using social approval and social disapproval.
00:02:08.000And what they did, they studied the cultural history of the Chinese and they found out that traditionally With certain objectives in mind, depopulation was one.
00:02:20.000And traditionally, China had often, very often as a matter of its culture, had killed off newborn children, especially females, if they didn't need so many, type of thing.
00:02:31.000And they thought, how can we bring this into the new system where we want to drastically reduce their population?
00:02:35.000They actually encouraged that, as you know, and they brought in the one child per family policy.
00:02:42.000Uh, initially, and the guys at the UN said this in one of their own statements recently, they said, initially, the militia had to come to drag women to the abortion clinics if they had a second pregnancy.
00:02:54.000Now they've claimed the public, the neighbors themselves, will drag the woman in to the clinic because they consider it as antisocial to have a second child.
00:03:04.000You're rubbing the food from someone else's mouth type of thing.
00:03:22.000And so you need to get into the collectivist model.
00:03:24.000And once we have collectivist health care, then we've got to tax what you eat and do because we're all paying for it.
00:03:30.000And this is the nasty trick that the collectivist paradigm uses. - Thank you.
00:03:36.000Yeah, it's called social approval and disapproval.
00:03:40.000In China, the two guys, there was such a success, these guys dreamed up, these two neuroscientists, they dreamed up this idea, they said it was such a success that they then turned, they were the guys who brought in the United Nations war on smoking.
00:03:56.000And they train the children at school to have Pavlovian responses if they saw anyone light up a cigarette 20 feet away.
00:04:15.000And I was down at Port Aransas My wife and kids are inside eating.
00:04:19.000I don't smoke anywhere near them a few weeks ago and I fell off the wagon and was smoking cigarettes and I went out on the back deck and fired up a cigarette and a woman in the parking lot, no exaggeration, had to be 40 feet away.
00:04:34.000I just lit the cigarette and she starts waving her hands, coughing and freaking out and runs over and says, your cigarette is hurting me.
00:04:53.000I bet you don't have a problem with that.
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00:06:05.000There's hundreds of different ways that the establishment conditions us to be tattletales, to hate our fellow man, the torture porn in the movies, all the violence, the conditioning, the dividing us into all these different groups along race, religion, sex, But look at Europe.
00:06:26.000They say, we're going to ban Nazi websites.
00:06:42.000Now the White House says you can't criticize groups.
00:06:46.000And so once they set the precedent there, they expand it.
00:06:49.000They create the perception that guns are illegal with TV ads and billboards showing a picture of a revolver or a shotgun, legal almost everywhere but a few cities like D.C.
00:07:05.000I see every few days articles where some old guy comes out with his rifle to go to the shooting range.
00:07:09.000Neighbors call the cops, they pull him over, they go ahead and arrest him.
00:07:13.000So it's all this perception with this dumbed-down population and now they're going into the next phase.
00:07:21.000Alan's talked a lot about this and we're gonna get more into how they're conditioning us but then I want to get into contestants turn torturers in French TV experiment and how they're duplicating, give me a document cam shot please, the Stanford prison experiment And we're gonna go over that experiment.
00:07:39.000In 71, a team of researchers led by psychology professor Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University, 24 undergraduates were selected out of 70 to play the roles of both guards and prisoners in a mock prison in the basement.
00:07:54.000And they told them that we're gonna randomly torture them.
00:08:23.000They capture 50 of the other cool kids and they torture them and murder them, and it's a great good thing.
00:08:29.000So, this is the massive conditioning, so when our neighbor's being drug away, we don't care if we're being drug away later, and our neighbor won't care when we're drug away, because we're all being conditioned to it.
00:08:41.000Yes, in fact there's a movie, a very good movie came out in Germany called The Experiment and that was based on that particular experiment because we're doing it in other countries too and it works the same way wherever they do it.
00:08:54.000People really who don't know themselves, and that's the old Maxim from thousands of years ago.
00:09:00.000If you don't know yourself, you immediately get submerged into role-playing and you adapt into the role.
00:09:07.000And sadomasochism takes over actually in prison guard society between the prisoners and the wardens.
00:09:14.000And once the actors themselves, people who take on these roles as prisoners, once you start talking back to the wardens, the wardens literally react with anger.
00:09:47.000They shave your head, sleep deprivation, they torture you, and then you're no longer a maggot.
00:09:53.000Then you're now a human because you're part of our group, and that's your only identity.
00:09:59.000And now in the public schools, the terror attack drills where they tell the kids it's real.
00:10:04.000They tell them it's the gun owners that are doing this, it's the conservatives, it's the libertarians, it's the homeschoolers that are going to do this.
00:10:16.000And it's like all these different syndromes, the Stockholm Syndrome, they start loving their abuser and take all the FEMA drills and police training and government.
00:10:27.000And when they run terror attacks, they do it through a script.
00:10:30.000And so everything becomes role playing.
00:10:32.000If you don't have your own identity, you don't have your own moral compass that was Talk to you, you know, through your culture, don't trust the government, never snitch, stick together.
00:10:40.000Those were truly passed on ancient human attributes against tyranny.
00:10:44.000As they remove that, yuppies, you know, trendies, liberals, they're all in a role and they play a role.
00:10:51.000And it's like a three-year-old playing princess or playing cowboys and Indians.
00:10:57.000And I remember when I was three years old, Having a giant paradigm shift in my backyard, when me and my friends were playing Batman and Robin, and I, and I, it clicked.
00:11:40.000But remember, too, we're run by experts at the top with unlimited financing, with thousands of think tanks working on every possible repercussion for their agenda at every stage.
00:11:53.000And they work out what the reactions from the public will be.
00:11:58.000They have risen a generation on militarized video games, which were intended to desensitize the military from killing or turning on anyone they're told to turn on, including their own people if need be.
00:12:17.000And these guys now are the real Johnny with a gun.
00:12:20.000They're wearing the uniforms, and when they're told to turn on their own people, they will do so.
00:12:26.000Well, they found in World War I, soldiers would shoot people a thousand yards away, but over half of folks, unless they were fighting for their lives, wouldn't shoot somebody 20 feet away.
00:12:39.000By Vietnam, with pop-up paper targets to habitualize instinctual shooting, they got it to where about 90% would pull the trigger up close.
00:12:48.000You must heighten your killer instinct or you will be dead marine.
00:12:51.000Doom, the video game, was developed over 15 years ago by the Pentagon.
00:12:56.000We talked about this, and now they even use the PlayStation controller with the Predator drones, and they're actually hiring teenagers who have the top scores on these pilot programs that they now admit the Pentagon-funded Microsoft.
00:13:10.000And I talked to a high-level former, he's actually a Hollywood producer, who for five years worked at the highest levels of Microsoft, and it's all basically a Pentagon program to precondition.
00:13:24.000And it was like, what, 20 years ago they had the last Starfighter put in a science fiction thing where they put out these video games.
00:13:32.000To find out who can beat the game, then they land and say you're now going to be part of the Intergalactic Starfighters.
00:13:37.000But instead of really working for aliens off-world that put these video games in, the Pentagon now admits they are literally getting the best robot pilots to now be in these trailers in Arizona or Nevada or New Mexico with drones 10,000 miles away, and they've been habitualized on very games designed to pre-program them.
00:14:00.000Yeah, they also go through a very specialized testing for the ones who do that.
00:14:04.000And this was disclosed in a documentary in Britain, where the US nuclear subs are based at the Holy Lock.
00:14:12.000and uh the commander of the base was asked how they select the two men aboard every sub who put the keys in together they look at the little computers and so on everything's computerized so the little figures and so on aren't just continents and aren't just people uh they're just like cartoons to them but he said we select the psychopathic types because they will do what they're told And they will turn those keys and they will press those buttons when they're told to do so because they can't empathize with other people.
00:14:41.000So they actually have selective courses and tests to get the right people to sit behind, as you see in these trailers, while they kill hundreds of people thousands of miles away that they never even see.
00:14:53.000And they have drill after drill after drill.
00:14:55.000Now, people are asking, well, how do they know who is the best drone pilot?
00:15:01.000Well, now almost all the games are interactive.
00:15:07.000And now the Microsoft Xbox, the PlayStation with Sony, all these companies admit it's got voice identification, infrared face scan.
00:15:16.000They're now going to add pain sensors to the games.
00:15:20.000Remember, what, 20 plus years ago, that James Bond movie, where they're global domination, and they're playing the game, and they're getting pain.
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00:20:01.000You're listening to the Alex Jones Broadcasting Network.
00:20:05.000And now Bill Gates is giving free shots to the people in Africa, but then he gave a speech, and it's double speak to his people. but then he gave a speech, and it's double speak That's why the audience laughed.
00:20:26.000We played the audio and video here just a month ago and he says we've got to get everybody's vaccine so we can cut the population by half and everyone laughed and clapped.
00:20:35.000It was a it was a sick psycho enjoyment.
00:20:37.000We're saying we're killing them out in the open and they don't even see it.
00:20:56.000And the thing is too, they are super confident now because the public have never been so dumbed down, the general public, as they are today with scientific means through media, all media, entertainment.
00:21:09.000There's not a thing you can watch in entertainment that isn't full of predictive programming.
00:21:14.000and messages, and how you should behave, and how you should feel about this, and feel about that.
00:21:19.000You're given it all, and I've never had such a dumbed-down population with inoculations as they have today.
00:21:25.00030 injections before a child gets out of hospital after getting born, I mean, and then they're full of fluoride from then on.
00:21:33.000So we are really working on it at less than half speed, to be honest with you.
00:21:40.000Absolutely, and why do you think some individuals are predisposed to be resistant to this versus others that fall right into it?
00:21:50.000A lot of it's upbringing, genetics, but obviously the most aggressive anti-government, anti-tyranny group in the world were North Americans.
00:22:00.000Just because of the selection of who came here, the rebels, the criminals, the trailblazers.
00:22:06.000And so that's why we were the first to be fluoridated.
00:23:13.000Well, it's the same thing too with the oil and all the rest of it.
00:23:19.000We know it's just land grabs, it's mineral grabs, it's oil grabs.
00:23:23.000Not for our countries because we don't have countries anymore, to be honest.
00:23:27.000We're run by internationalists and we have been for a long, long time.
00:23:31.000But they're making sure that they have all these resources for themselves for 100 years, 200 years in the future.
00:23:37.000And I've read the Department of Defense's own projections for the next 50 years.
00:23:43.000They know, and they published it before the dollar bombed out and the crash came, they said there would be financial crashes, they said there would be food shortages, there would be riots as they bring down the Western world.
00:23:55.000Let's talk more about that, but let's go back.
00:23:58.000around the starting date for the actual riots.
00:24:01.000Well, we've seen the riots break out in Greece and other countries.
00:24:04.000There's articles in the paper now they're expecting riots in the U.K. shortly.
00:24:08.000Let's talk more about that, but let's go back.
00:24:10.000You made a big deal out of this in 2007.
00:24:23.000We got the whole hundred-page report, the British Ministry of Defense program, and they said we're going to financially collapse it into 2010.
00:24:34.000We're going to have flash mobs, riots, and they talk about how we are the enemy.
00:24:39.000They talk about using nuclear weapons or The neutron bombs, if the people were to ever try to take back London or Ottawa or DC, they will neutron bomb the population and they just admit it.
00:25:02.000And if you ever try to take a Capitol, we're going to neutron bomb you.
00:25:05.000I mean, this is, and then, so the cops, the military that serve this, and the bureaucrats, you're drinking deadly poison, you're being poisoned with GMO, your sperm count's dropped 85%, you're becoming sterile, you're dying of cancer, and you will salute the government and take your five-year-old that died of cancer and bury him, and then just salute the government?
00:25:41.000I love being a tyrant, so you go ahead and smash me!
00:25:46.000And also that was followed, remember, from the Guardian and the Department of Defense for the UK and NATO, all NATO countries, followed immediately a month later by the United States military one, which was pretty well identical to the British one.
00:26:01.000So this is the world agenda, and it's the same thing will happen in the United States.
00:26:05.000This all falls in again with Agenda 21, the agenda for the 21st century, which is the century for change, planned change, of course.
00:26:14.000And they're already starting to smash down a lot of the suburbs around the urban areas.
00:26:21.000And Detroit and places like that, that's all part of the planning.
00:26:25.000Everyone's to get forced into the already overcrowded cities.
00:26:29.000They said, we'll get everybody dependent through the trilateral banking system, and then we're going to destroy half of the homes in the cities.
00:26:37.000And Detroit is announcing they're going to destroy a third, and they're announcing massive new energy taxes, all designed to bankrupt us.
00:26:43.000Uh, they say you're going to have a brain chip to have a job, that people will have to accept it just to have a job.
00:28:27.000They won't keep you around as a pet, believe you me.
00:28:29.000These guys are all about economics, and what seems to be appropriate at the time.
00:28:35.000And if you, if they claim that you are eating up the resources that their future offspring, the least future offspring, will have for the next thousand years, they're going to get rid of you very quickly.
00:29:02.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
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00:29:10.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
00:29:14.000It means all the world under their control.
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00:29:19.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
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00:29:31.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
00:29:36.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
00:29:39.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
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00:33:26.000Unless it's the Borg mind of the computer system, and that's full of mistakes.
00:33:32.000But it's like yesterday, I was up on air talking about Pentagon technology to get the heat resonance biometric print of your body, or even your shoulders and the top of your head, and I got an email saying, Alex, they can't brain scan you from orbit.
00:33:56.000Then I went into identification, biometric systems of how you walk from the ground, satellites that can identify you once they have your heat resonance print of your shoulders and the top of your head.
00:34:21.000Revolution, flash mobs, brain chips, a grim vision of the future.
00:34:25.000I need to get Paul Watson, Steve Watson, Aaron Dykes, Kurt Nemo, somebody, one of my great writers, researchers, to go through this report three years later and show how much of what they talked about that would start happening by 2010 has now begun.
00:35:22.000who wrote about the fact that early on in Rome they didn't have gladiatorial events and that they scientifically, as a way to dehumanize and so people would put up with tyranny, first it was convicted hardcore criminals had to fight.
00:35:40.000And as long as the public could cheer for somebody being torn apart this week, that dehumanized everyone and made them enjoy seeing their fellow humans killed next week.
00:36:12.000Yes, and what you find too is that the big authors who worked for the Fabian Society, which is just an arm, a specialized arm to control left-wing for the socialized world of the brain, on behalf of the elite, in fact it was all started up by the elite themselves, and funded by them, and they're all issue of international affairs.
00:36:33.000They're all branches, specialized branches of the same thing.
00:36:37.000And you'll find that their authors have talked about this particular age we're in today.
00:36:42.000One of them was Arnold Toynbee, a professor at Oxford.
00:36:46.000He was the one who taught road scholars for world government on behalf of the elite.
00:36:50.000And he said in his own history books, he's a philosopher and historian, he said that this is what happens at the end of an age where an empire is going down.
00:36:59.000Now, the elite always move out before the empire crashes, by the way.
00:37:02.000You never see that the rich people get put under.
00:37:24.000Entertainment, drama, plays staged as never before.
00:37:28.000And it seems that this can be re-implemented at any time, in any culture, in any empire.
00:37:33.000And it's not always If you bring in the same formula and sequence, you can recreate that and bring the people down to basically a slave level.
00:37:42.000And that was also said by Carl Quigley, Professor Carl Quigley, who was a historian for the Council on Foreign Relations, and he taught at the US State Department.
00:37:51.000He taught the diplomats, and he also taught the guys in the Pentagon.
00:38:28.000Uh, to break all natural bonding rules that creates a strong cultural society.
00:38:34.000And it starts really with the man and the woman as a first target.
00:38:37.000You divide them, you conquer them, you then separate the children, the state we have the children with new values which are all politically correct.
00:38:46.000Every intake in kindergarten is taught To a scientific formula so that the intake in the previous year are given a little upgrade from the previous year before them for what they will expect to happen culturally in society in their lifetime so that when it happens, they think it's normal.
00:39:05.000And Beria, who was a KGB or NKVD head of the Soviet Union in 1934 at the International Communist Meeting, Talked about this.
00:39:14.000He said it used to take 70 years to alter society in a cultural way to our advantage.
00:39:20.000Now he said in 1934 it takes five years through indoctrination of the intakes of children.
00:39:27.000Today is down to year by year by year through kindergarten.
00:39:31.000It's a scientific indoctrination so that they'll get brought up in a world where yet brain chipping will be normal.
00:39:38.000You're now a blank slate that they can program anything they want into.
00:39:41.000and laboratories will be normal, all kinds.
00:39:43.000There'll be no such thing as pedophilia anymore.
00:39:48.000The destruction of all normalcy means you are defenseless against the big boys because you have no cultural values to hold on to and stand up for.
00:39:57.000When you can't stand up for anything, you are totally defeated.
00:40:01.000You're now a blank slate that they can program anything they want into.
00:40:13.000Contestants turned torturers in French TV game show experiment.
00:40:18.000And here's the Stanford experiment from 71 where the professors themselves went crazy with the mock prison and torture and even began actually trying to hurt people and kill people.
00:40:30.000And they were telling people to mock executions that they thought were real and they were actually carrying it out because of the mad, crazy power trip.
00:40:39.000And this was almost 40 years ago, ladies and gentlemen.
00:41:14.000Your power to hate and kill and to give support to killing.
00:41:17.000An evil culture by design so we're defenseless.
00:41:21.000Virtue, Sovereignty is the antidote, states' rights, cutting the size of government, not putting your children in government training camps, warning everyone you know, getting upset, getting through the comfort zone, breaking out of your bubbles, realizing how serious and real this is and that everything else you're being programmed with is fake.
00:41:43.000What's real is the government think tanks.
00:41:45.000What's real is what's really happening, not the false spectrum analysis projected on you that is literally a matrix-like system that we're now digitally, television all going now to 3D, which they admit is total mind control, makes you mentally ill, just total programming, drugging the water supply.
00:42:03.000We're deep into this technological dictatorship right now.
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00:47:19.000They have simulated cyber attacks, simulated terror attacks.
00:47:21.000They announced on US TV it's fake only at the beginning.
00:47:25.000All of this war of the world psychological brainwashing.
00:47:28.000This is done so people associate torture as fun.
00:47:33.000That's why they brought out the Abu Ghraib torture, was to get you ready to accept it.
00:47:38.000Now police all over the world are taught pain compliance and a federal court and a state court have ruled police can now break arms and taser you to answer questions without a warrant.
00:47:49.000Yes, in fact, as it's come out in different court hearings, I don't think he even goes to court when they taser people and kill them, that the police were now using tasers for compliance.
00:48:02.000Compliance, that's what it's all about now.
00:48:04.000Compliance, you comply, you do what you're told.
00:48:06.000There's no such thing as rights anymore.
00:49:12.000Scenarios, but people are wrapping that stuff up.
00:49:14.000They can't tell fact from fiction anymore They see the guys in the streets with the combat boots the cops and all the rest of it It's all quite normal to them and what happens is you get into a state of flux They call it flux at the top where you can't rationalize reality and separate it from fiction and use your own perceptions is to say am I really under attack right now or is it mainly in my head and But all the symbols are giving you is that they're under attack.
00:49:44.000And they can rush forward a whole agenda with rationing, fuel rationing, which will come to, as it is off the roads gradually, into the new system.
00:49:53.000And as they're doing it, yes, they will step up the decadence within society, because in the feudal systems, they knew that when they brought out someone who'd fought against them, a hero like Michael, like William Wallace, for instance, The peasantry would turn up, living in their own misery, and they would actually hate someone who tried and failed, and they'd watch them being drawn and quartered and sliced up in a ritualistic killing on behalf of the king, and they'd cheer because they hate the losers.
00:50:46.000And they've borrowed all the terms that they used to use in the Soviet Union, like political correctness is a direct translation from them.
00:51:40.000And now this medical tyranny that does have the ration care, does have the death panels, it's all coming in now, Alan.
00:51:49.000Yes, you also get compulsory sterilisation, that will be on the books, because look who's up there, Mr Holdren that wrote the book with Paul Ehrlich, Paul Ehrlich's wife is a high member of the Trilateral Commission on Cancer and Foreign Relations, and they wrote about that years ago, that they would bring in mandatory sterilisation for the unfit, and that's coming now.
00:52:09.000Yeah, they're saying now, look at this mother that had a genetic problem and she had a kid.
00:52:13.000We need pre-screening to license you to have kids.
00:52:16.000And then, oh, we have been taking your blood at birth for the Pentagon for 37 years.
00:52:27.000And again, generations haven't even known it.
00:52:30.000But the big, apart from the Federal Reserve getting created back in the early World War I, we'd know World War I if it wasn't for that being created.
00:52:40.000But the fact is, when FDR gave you the New Deal, that was the announcement of this is the new way, this is a new system, this supersedes the Constitution, the Constitution's out the window, and the bankers and so on.
00:52:56.000Absolutely, and he declared the War Powers Act in 33 and put the country into a permanent emergency, and that's what we're still under today.
00:53:09.000We can trust in our Creator to lead God and direct us, not the big organized religion.
00:53:16.000There is a big awakening happening, and the globalists are trying to manipulate that and control that, but their global warming taxes are in trouble.
00:53:24.000Uh, record numbers didn't take the swine flu shot or the seasonal flu, so we had record low flu.
00:53:29.000That was in Wall Street Journal, because it's the shot that gives you the flu, all the evidence shows.
00:53:33.000The people are trying to get healthier.
00:53:34.000That's why they're trying to wreck all the agriculture and industry where you are totally dependent on them, so even if you're awake, there's nothing you can do.
00:53:43.000And we're very close to entering a time when it's going to be even harder to beat these people, but I see a lot of positive things happening.
00:53:52.000Alan Watt, Well I think people will be standing up more on an individualistic basis.
00:54:01.000As you know, groups are penetrated so darn quickly.
00:54:04.000And taken over very very quickly because they've got unlimited financing at the top and unlimited agents basically to go and do that.
00:54:11.000I've got reports here of them doing it in Canada recently as well and living undercover with far-left groups and in Britain too.
00:54:53.000And the boys at the top, now here's the thing too, they've taught us to think that everything is fair and that we live in some kind of democracy where everyone gets to say and those who make the most sense will always win.
00:55:05.000The big boys at the top do not and never have played by any fair rules.
00:55:10.000If you want power and you want to maintain power, you don't play by the rules.
00:55:14.000That's why they don't care if they're caught out with all their lies.
00:55:17.000They continue regardless as though they've never heard you.
00:55:20.000And they'll stoop to nothing to get their way.
00:55:23.000If it's blowing up buildings or a whole city, they will do it, if need be.
00:55:30.000Never to panic when we see these things come down the pike.
00:55:33.000And that's why they're so... I agree with you.
00:55:35.000That's why they're so angry at 9-11 Truth and demonizing it everywhere, because we've taken their toy of false flag terror, and now people are automatically thinking, is it the government, Kibono, who stands to gain?
00:55:50.000It's angering them, and they put so much money out, and groups again, anti-groups you might say, and propaganda from the Pentagon through various agencies that appear as independent news clips, and I've read articles from the Pentagon where they actually do this, to brainwash the public and try and poo-poo it, and these silly radicals with their crazy paranoid ideas and repetition of language like that, that's what they hope to win over the general public with.
00:56:18.000The general public, unfortunately, as I say, you cannot live in reality.
00:56:24.000If you're consuming daily television, fiction is not fiction to entertain you, it's there to indoctrinate you.
00:56:32.000And I've lost count, I've tried to keep track of all the shows that come out since... All the messages, the anti-family, anti-gun, anti-homeschool, anti-free market, anti-pro-world government, all the messages and cartoons about the Illuminati making it a joke.
00:56:48.000I'm going to make this point and then go to calls.
00:56:51.000You mentioned how they create mass insanity where people accept Mass murder, war, torture, human sacrifice.
00:57:00.000Look at the Romans, look at the Aztecs, look at the Druids, where, oh, the sun won't come back during an eclipse if you don't give us your children to sacrifice.
00:57:11.000They make you give over your children to be burned in fires or flayed or have their hearts cut out, because if they can make you do that willfully, they have full mind control over you.
00:57:22.000So human culture always ends up getting dominated by the psychopaths.
00:57:26.000And they turn the world into the type of world they like.
00:57:29.000Death, destruction, torture and killing.
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01:00:12.000They are openly bringing in Marshall Well.
01:00:14.000They have troops deploying in every major city.
01:00:16.000We need everybody to go to Pittsburgh who loves this country.
01:00:19.000International media, government staffers and protesters.
01:00:23.000The G20 basically represent the largest nations which participate in the Western banking cartel, which I feel is behind a lot of the pain, anguish, and misery that exists in our world today.
01:00:35.000This is such a police state there, that they tried to talk to the military and talk to a spokesman last night?
01:00:41.000Defense Link put a press release out and they said, no, we're not going to talk to you, get out of here.
01:00:46.000Then they got their license number, had the police pose as Alamo rental car people from the county there, Allegheny County in Pennsylvania.
01:01:27.000You guys pulled up to the gate, you asked to talk to the public information officer, they called the police and lied and said that you were sneaking around.
01:01:58.000We tried to get as much information as we could.
01:02:00.000He refused to answer our questions, so then Rob asked him for his information and where we could contact him tomorrow if we could get a word with him.
01:02:30.000By the time that we had left, turned around, and exited the main military facility, there was another car parked on the other side of the road, waited for us, passed, followed us for an exit, then got off.
01:02:42.000And then we were shot when Douglas got a call trying to entrap you.
01:03:51.000They said the market would drop by 4,000 points, blood would flow in the streets, and lions would be devouring children in the parks of Los Angeles.
01:03:59.000It's got the same story, it's just FBI training, but it was FBI.
01:04:05.000That the military will fire on its feet.
01:05:02.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
01:05:05.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
01:05:10.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
01:05:15.000It means all the world under their control.
01:05:17.000The United Nations would take over America.
01:05:20.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
01:05:23.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
01:05:31.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
01:05:36.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
01:05:39.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
01:07:32.000It's so bad, I can't even find the proper words to cover how evil it is.
01:07:39.000And now that we've had a week and a half to go over the full final version, it's amazing even me, and I expect a lot out of these tyrants.
01:07:48.000I mean, it takes a lot to surprise me.
01:07:51.000Tom Daschle, three years ago, wrote a book, we've read the passages, saying, we need to get more like Europeans who just understand after 60, you have a duty to die.
01:08:02.000And they have this comparative care, they have these bio, There's ethicists that sit over the hospitals under federal control, and they decide if you get health care.
01:08:15.000And as you get older, they begin rationing the care, and that is in the bill.
01:08:18.000And AP reported, of course, that, oh, it was an oversight, but it's law now.
01:08:22.000Children and others with preexisting conditions, you don't get coverage.
01:08:26.000The insurance companies don't have to give it to you.
01:08:28.000And then you go on Medicare, Medicaid, and the taxpayer pays for it.
01:08:33.000But then you get a lower standard of care.
01:08:34.000That's how they cut Medicare, cut Medicaid, lower the standard of care, but raise taxes.
01:08:39.000It's nothing but a tax increase for government and a boondoggle payoff to the insurance companies.
01:08:44.000I'm going to get into that coming up next.
01:08:48.000But we've got the YouTube video itself posted up at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
01:08:52.000WorldNetDaily has an article about it as well that's excellent.
01:08:55.000New York Times columnist, death panels will save a lot of money.
01:09:00.000Paul Krugman tells Roundtable Economist, agree, it's going to be major.
01:09:04.000And their argument is, hey, these panels are going to cut what tests you get, what surgeries you get, just like in Europe or just like the VA.
01:09:11.000The one case we have of government-run healthcare, it's a nightmare.
01:09:14.000I was talking to a lady this morning from England.
01:09:17.000And she was telling me just how the health service is absolutely horrible.
01:09:22.000But you talk to Americans who've been told the lie, those that support socialist healthcare, they're like, oh, it's great, everything's free in England.
01:09:29.000Yeah, waiting a month on a gurney, that was in the news last week, and dying a month, a month, not being given any healthcare, 18 months for cancer surgeries that are almost 100% operable, if you get it within a few months, oh no, you wait over a year and a half, you die.
01:09:48.000So I wanted to go ahead and play the New York Times economic columnist Paul Krugman says the so-called death panels established by President Obama trillion-dollar nationalized health care plan will end up saving a lot of money for the government but he's operating under the false left-right paradigm saying Well, wait a minute, Republicans.
01:10:05.000You're saying this is going to cost too much money, but if these death panels cut the amount that's spent, which they will, then that cuts spending.
01:10:17.000The insurance companies get the lower standard of care for everybody, they get to force 30 million plus people to get insurance, and the government gets to raise all these new taxes on people and save money.
01:10:28.000So, more money goes to the banks and insurance companies in interest on the debt, you get less care, you get less service.
01:10:35.000So he knows people are watching at home and he tries to manipulate them by saying, well, wait a minute, if this cuts, if this cuts cost, how is this driving up the deficit?
01:10:49.000They admit it brings in more money, but does lower cost because you're being robbed.
01:10:55.000I'm going to go over the insurance companies that were behind this in a moment, but right now, let's go ahead and play Paul Krugman on ABC News program This Week.
01:11:04.000week here it is is actually think about people on the right there simultaneously screaming they're gonna send all the old people to death panels and it's not gonna save any money that's that's a contradictory point of view that's what's that money i mean the advisory panel which has the ability to make more or less binding judgments on saying this particular expensive treatment actually doesn't do any good medically and so we're not going to pay for it That is actually going to save quite a lot of money.
01:11:32.000The CBO gives it very little credit but most of the healthcare economists I talk to think that's going to be a really major cost saving.
01:11:42.000There you go, a cost savings and they admit over 40 billion dollars a year cuts in Medicare and Medicaid and they're not just all the new federal taxes and taxes on health care savings accounts and everything else, but they make the states come up with money for Medicare and Medicaid.
01:12:02.000They make them contribute to it completely unconstitutional.
01:12:05.000Now, I told you how three months ago I was in an airport.
01:12:09.000I already knew this, I already read it other places, but there was the head of the healthcare insurance lobby saying, hey, we wrote this bill.
01:12:17.000And if you put a public option in it, which I'm not for, by the way, because it'll always get stolen, it's wrong to take people's money for somebody else, it's wrong for the government to make you buy something, but it's even worse than stealing money to help people, because they're not even doing it for that.
01:12:42.000That's the point, you're always going to get cheated.
01:12:45.000But there they were saying, if you do try to actually cover people with pre-existing conditions, we're pulling out.
01:12:50.000We're for this if it makes people come buy our goods.
01:12:55.000If it makes them buy our service and lets us lower quality.
01:12:58.000And that's why in the last week and a half, all the major insurance, health insurance company stocks are up, and it's been leading the stock market up in the last week and a half, and that was all over AP, Bloomberg, you name it.
01:13:08.000There's your evidence for all you stupid liberals who really believe the nanny state cares about you, and the government loves you, and boy, you got the rich guys, you got the middle class, you know, you're gonna get your free giveaway now because you wanna be a lazy parasite.
01:13:25.000Or because you're so taxed, and so regulated, you can't make ends meet because of big government.
01:13:31.000Destroying our economy, and ruining the best healthcare in the world.
01:13:34.000Some people aren't lazy, they are being cheated.
01:13:38.000And the illegals are bankrupting, and it goes on and on.
01:13:41.000But a great article by Revolt of the Plebes, we've got it up on Infowars.com, The K Street Hustlin' of Obamacare.
01:13:52.000And it says, ooh snap, looks like we've been right along.
01:13:55.000All the K Street money pumped into the House and Senate has been overwhelmingly one-sided in favor of Obama's horrendous new healthcare legislation.
01:14:03.000According to a new study released over the weekend by the Center for Public Policy, a non-partisan public interest think tank in D.C., it is estimated that a record $120 million was spent lobbying for the health reform.
01:14:14.000In addition to direct lobbying, some of the top firms also rewarded members of Congress with campaign contributions through political action committees and individual lobbying donations.
01:14:22.000The largest of these firms, Patton Boggs LLP, contributed more than $55,000 almost exclusively to Democrats.
01:14:30.000Patten Boggs represents Bristol-Myers Squibb, one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the nation and the eighth largest corporation in the United States.
01:14:38.000On January 21st, 2010, Patten Boggs was one of several big-name health insurance, pharmacological, and hospital lobbying organizations who all Whose top executives got together to throw a fundraiser for Massachusetts Senatorial candidate Martha Coakley in hopes of landing her the Democratic seat at the crucial 60th vote needed to pass the health care takeover bill.
01:15:02.000The other top firms that participated, along with a list of companies they represent, are as follows.
01:15:07.000And it goes on for page, after page, after page, after page.
01:15:14.000And you can go, also in a link here, to the Center for Public Policy and look.
01:15:19.000Over 94% of all lobbying health care and insurance money, and the guy behind Obama more than anybody else, Berkshire Hathaway Insurance Company, Mogul, they are all there pushing this.
01:15:37.000Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, you name it.
01:15:39.000The biggest fortunes are made by controlling government contracts.
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01:20:20.000That's right, deep behind the propaganda lines, attempting to wake the people up, attempting To get the population to listen to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine and others' words, love your country, fear your government, or you will get tyranny.
01:20:38.000Now for the rest of the hour, Dr. Frederick Whitehurst is our guest.
01:20:44.000More than a decade ago, he is one of the most famous whistleblowers in U.S.
01:20:48.000history, perhaps the most famous in the more modern times.
01:20:53.000He's America's first successful FBI whistleblower.
01:20:56.000Dr. Whitehurst forced the president to issue an executive order ensuring whistleblower protection of all FBI agents who exposed misconduct.
01:21:04.000His case exposed forensic fraud in the FBI crime lab and subjected it to outside oversight for the first time.
01:21:12.000He's the director of the Forensic Justice Project.
01:21:14.000And pioneer whistleblower Dr. Whitehurst now joins us and exposes FBI misconduct and forensic fraud.
01:21:21.000And all over the country, every major police department in Texas, Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, have all been caught just framing people en masse all over the newspapers.
01:21:32.000San Francisco, a few weeks ago, I saw in the news.
01:21:34.000Tulia, Texas, literally filling the jail with half the town's black people framing them.
01:21:41.000Here's a New York Times article, DNA evidence can be fabricated, scientists show.
01:21:51.000years ago that they can fake your fingerprints.
01:21:53.000But I'm going to shut up now and go to Dr. Frederick Whitehurst for the balance of the hour to talk about are things getting worse, are they getting better, what's happening around the country.
01:22:04.000But first, sir, well, just going right back to you, I've got so many questions.
01:23:25.000Told him, 18 years ago, during trial of this man, it was before the commission, there were two tests that decided whether it was blood in the evidence.
01:23:35.000And, um, one of them said yes, and the other one said no, and he only reported the yes.
01:23:41.000And it has shaken up this state to think that a man in our crime laboratory, a lowly state employee, can put a guy in jail forever.
01:23:51.000Just unilaterally decide, well, I'm not going to report the stuff that would hurt the prosecutor's case.
01:25:11.000I have the indictment and the affidavits for the head of the Mumbai terror attacks and it's a US government agent.
01:25:20.000I have NBC here with the FBI Literally commanding and setting up and running the latest Muslim terror group that was going to bomb a synagogue.
01:25:31.000We have these groups infiltrating militias and the leaders are the ones who are government informants or agents provocateur-ing this and it's just case after case after case and then I myself have had people who it turned out were feds try to set me up for things.
01:25:52.000I'm trying to understand from your perspective as the former head of the FBI Crime Lab Forensics Division, how did you awaken?
01:26:00.000How did you start seeing the corruption?
01:26:04.000What percentage as a dead reckoning guesstimation Of police departments or FBI agents or their workers, what percentage For whatever reason, just love framing people because we now know because of DNA evidence and other issues in some states, a third of the people or more are completely innocent.
01:26:27.000And we know that the biggest industry now in this nation is prisons.
01:26:30.000And there's this incentive to just build, build, build and put more people in prison.
01:26:35.000And as you said, the paradigm is shifting as the population begins to discover that something is rotten in the state of our Republic.
01:26:43.000I don't support law enforcement officers that go outside that cross the thin blue line and tarnish their badge.
01:26:50.000I understand from being inside what the pressures are.
01:26:55.000When we have an Oklahoma City go up and we see bodies of little children being dragged out, we call for revenge.
01:27:02.000A call for revenge directs our politicians, and that's what they are, they're politicians too, to move forward with an agenda that we will at all costs, da da da da da.
01:27:13.000That vengeance drags at the foundation of our justice system.
01:27:25.000Unfortunately, in any enterprise such as law enforcement, where somebody who gives the right answer to the right question at the right time gets the right job and there's no oversight, Um, as a friend of mine and I were saying recently, we all know what floats to the top in a septic tank.
01:27:44.000And that, frankly, is what, without proper oversight, can float to the top in a law enforcement agency or a government agency.
01:27:53.000People that are willing to do whatever it takes, without any moral compass, go to the top.
01:27:58.000They control who then floats to the top with them.
01:28:02.000The problem you have in law enforcement is the kind of, in my opinion, let's take the FBI.
01:28:07.000The FBI is cram-packed full of very, very good people.
01:28:12.000And those that remain as law enforcement officers instead of managers and rear-echelon folks, those people, they see what's going on.
01:28:23.000They respond either as, you know, going to the media under the table, which I think is inappropriate.
01:28:30.000They respond by going forward through the system.
01:28:33.000For your listeners that don't know right now, there is a move to gut the Whistleblower Protection Act with a bill.
01:28:42.000It's the Senate Bill 372 for the Senate right now.
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01:33:05.000Kathleen Rowley and 15 or more other FBI agents tried to stop the exact hijackers and were ordered, you will not do that, and the guys that blocked them, their superiors, they got record cash bonuses, and the good FBI agents got demoted or run out.
01:33:34.000And you know that, sir, because FBI agents who they tried to stop came out because they're that kind of people.
01:33:42.000You know, I knew doggone well I might catch a bullet when I was in the FBI for the stuff I was saying.
01:33:47.000I mean, it was terrifying for me and my family.
01:33:50.000And where would the bullet have come from?
01:34:08.000It's happening from criminals who are loose in the FBI.
01:34:12.000And that is not the major percentage of them, but I can... In my experience, sir, most of those are top managers at the FBI that have managed, through lack of a moral compass, to move to the top and spread that kind of criminal activity where they want to, but they get stopped.
01:34:31.000If Senate Bill 372 goes through, the FBI agents, I guarantee you they'll find another way to stop that criminal activity.
01:34:47.000So when you say, you know, law enforcement's run amok, I think what's happening is because of the information uh...
01:34:55.000that we can get to now when somebody does run a mug to lead texas for instance whoever heard of that you know i lived in texas one time but i never heard of that place until by golly if we're showing up that half the town had been put in jail by a bunch of crooked cops but i want to go back to the beginning What happened at the FBI Crime Lab?
01:35:15.000Why were you forced to take that risk?
01:35:16.000As you said, there could have been a bullet with your name on it.
01:35:19.000Why did you go through all that hell to get the Whistleblower Protection Act through?
01:35:24.000And now they're coming back with SB 372 to try to reverse that.
01:35:29.000Well, the day I walked through the door of the laboratory, which was Well, I think it was June the 16th, 1986.
01:35:36.000It was obvious to me it wasn't a forensic crime lab.
01:35:45.000I saw some things in the lab that bothered me.
01:35:48.000We do in any organization, I'm sure people working with you or me would question some of our judgment.
01:35:54.000But I didn't, I didn't say, you know, scream my head off.
01:35:56.000I said, there's a system here to work this out.
01:35:59.000I took these issues over a period of six, seven years, up through the chain of command, step by step by step, and at every chain, at every point.
01:36:08.000Uh, somebody said to me, well, I know there's issues, however, it's not your cross to bear.
01:38:13.000And we see this system everywhere where 800 plus cities are sanctuary cities where illegal aliens here in Austin can drunk drive and kill people and they get released but citizens get the book thrown at them because politically the government wants more illegals here for whatever reason.
01:38:32.000Now from your experience What percentage of Crime Lab people thought somebody was guilty, and so they planted the evidence, like with what happened with O.J.
01:38:42.000Simpson with the LAPD, and then, and I know it's not an exact number, versus what percentage were just sloppy and didn't care?
01:38:53.000Well, you know, there's another percentage, sir, and that's the people who work very, very hard and really do care.
01:39:00.000What happens in the Crime Lab is, They've got the data, and back when I was involved with this system, and I still am, but gradually we've come out of it, they're stuck with this issue.
01:39:14.000The issue is, well, the guy's probably guilty of something.
01:39:18.000If I report this stuff, I'm going to lose my job, so what's more important, my family or my oath of office and my nation?
01:40:05.000You know, they call them crime labs sometimes because the crime is in the lab.
01:40:12.000But, you know, the labs are frankly completely, absolutely overwhelmed, overworked.
01:40:20.000Uh, when you're just reading an article during the break about San Francisco Crime Lab, they're doing 7,000 cases or, you know, each exam.
01:40:29.000There's no way you could do science that fast, period.
01:40:32.000And, you know, what's amazing to me is San Francisco is, uh, touts itself as one of the most progressive thought, uh, think tanks, if you will, in the country.
01:40:41.000I'm not sure about that because I'm from North Carolina, but, um, that kind of thing that's going on in San Francisco has been happening for years.
01:40:49.000And we've brought it to the attention of those folks out there.
01:40:53.000And judges don't do anything about it.
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01:47:05.000You can be executed because a crime laboratory that has no oversight at all but a doctor going into your throat to determine if you have a sore throat as a paperwork trail that he's very well aware could take away his license to practice.
01:48:08.000It's not going to happen unless the people that are in Texas and the United States decide enough is enough.
01:48:14.000Alright, Dr. Whitehurst, let's bring this down to the bottom line.
01:48:17.000Every major police department I've ever even randomly googled has had big scandals with their crime labs, and that's with most states having almost no oversight.
01:48:27.000It's the same thing as the National Security Act of 47, where U.S. intelligence has almost no oversight, unlimited secret budgets, can do whatever they want.
01:48:38.000And, of course, the CIA had to admit in 96 with their inspector general that they were shipping in cocaine.
01:48:44.000Because if you give people that much power and allow them to run wild with no oversight, criminals are going to run to get into those positions of power.
01:48:55.000Because inside a government position, they can get away with murder where they couldn't get away with it as a private criminal.
01:49:02.000We know that high-functioning psychopaths gravitate towards government positions.
01:49:10.000That's why nine times out of ten, you get a tyranny, not a free society.
01:49:15.000Freedom is a precious jewel that Thomas Jefferson said, even if you defend it, you're probably going to lose it.
01:49:21.000And so we know that these crime labs, by and large, are a fraud.
01:49:25.000There's this crisis of confidence as we learn that there's all this fraud.
01:49:31.000And instead of crime labs now, they're moving to new quackery that makes lie detector tests that have been proven to be a fraud pale in significance.
01:49:40.000They have All these other systems that supposedly show if you're really guilty and have been proven to be frauds, quackery.
01:49:47.000We have all these fake informants lying about people, setting people up, being caught over and over again, lying for money.
01:49:57.000We have police in all these scandals admitting that they lied on the stand and that it's condoned.
01:50:02.000So there is this culture of corruption.
01:50:06.000from the top going down throughout the system and you say the people have to fix it uh we know we have the biggest prison population in the world it's ballooning everywhere what do we do then if if the system is just rotting from the head down and and there's just so much corruption
01:50:24.000well you know i might add to that the safest place for a serial criminal in the united states is in a crime laboratory because he can get away with it again and again and again and he has there's no oversight and he's immune from prosecution And you can, you can count on your left hand the number of these folks that have been prosecuted.
01:50:46.000You know, if you put a man away for 18 years with a lie, then by golly, you ought to go take his place and finish out his term.
01:50:56.000And your retirement check ought to go into helping the country pay that man what he owed.
01:51:48.000Now, they made life miserable for me and my family and people around me that supported what I was saying, but we weren't killed.
01:51:55.000You have the right to come forward and do something to collect the data.
01:52:00.000One of the things Forensic Justice Project does, sir, is we're tracking all the victim defendants.
01:52:06.000I'm not saying defendants or victims, I'm saying victim defendants of the individuals that were pointed out in the investigation of the FBI crime lab.
01:52:18.000In most of our states, we have open records.
01:52:21.000Citizen groups Can take the iPod out of their ear, and petition the government for the names of every case that bad guys ever worked.
01:52:32.000And then go find those people, find out if they're in prison, if they've been executed, and we can do that passing the information around all over the country, and we will launch, and have launched, an army doing that.
01:52:45.000When one man goes to jail, sir, he has a family and he has friends, and if they know he's innocent, and they see the system do that to him, they do respond.
01:52:56.000And we've already won the first stage of the battle.
01:52:58.000We've gone from 20 years ago, the average person saying, no way the police ever frame anybody, to the population in polls know they frame whoever they want, whenever they want, and it's causing people You know what?
01:53:11.000I think I was on the inside of the FBI and I saw the stuff.
01:53:13.000lot of innocent people are getting out of prison when you talk to the average police officer or current fbi agent or other whistleblowers that you talk to you know the average cop on the beat because i know you travel around the country and talk to folks does the average cop realize how incredibly corrupt the system is and do they defend it you know what i think
01:53:33.000i was on the inside of the fbi and i saw the stuff and i saw how sick people were at the things that were going on from voucher fraud to time and attendance sheet fraud to to you know you go to court and there's a whole crew there and one of the guys is obviously lying and you know that they're sick about it They're sick about it.
01:53:54.000But sir, you know the structure we have right now?
01:53:58.000Those people, those good people, to decide between their family's security or their oath of office.
01:54:05.000And that's a dilemma we shouldn't put in their hands.
01:54:08.000They should know that when they come forward with valid, documented proof, that that guy who did what he did will not be protected by his, his, um, you know, his, what do you call him in the bureau, his juice man, not be protected by his management structure, will be tried in a court of law as a criminal, a serial criminal, and sent to prison.
01:55:24.000I've probably got another 20 good years.
01:55:26.000So the answer is we have to pick a criminal and hound them and bring them to justice and with the internet we can... that's what I've always said.
01:55:35.000If a politician... You don't need to hound them.
01:55:39.000A citizen's hounding is, what you need is just to collect the data.
01:55:44.000Collect the data, and as a citizen group, it's a fascinating thing.
01:55:49.000Any bit of data, by the way, I've got, I'll give away to anybody.
01:55:52.000Well, doctor, when I say hound, I mean a hound just keeps tracking and never stops.
01:56:38.000He deserves the right to a fair trial, and if the government won't give it to him, the elected government, the appointed government, then the government called the people, and we are the government of this country, can give it to him.