Governor Jesse Ventura is back in New York City and kicking off his tour of the country. He is joined by Alex Jones to discuss his new book, American Conspiracies, and to talk about his new movie, "Invisible Empire."
00:00:00.000And with all of that said, all of the groundwork, the seed work is there, along with the war, to cut all of these costs that the government doesn't want, and of course getting rid of older people, and lots of young people too in the wars.
00:00:18.000We the people are going to step up to the plate and say no.
00:00:22.000If we the people are going to declare that Ben Bernanke isn't truly the man of the year as Time Magazine propagates along with Hitler and others throughout history, while he tells us that we are going to be taxed to death and that we will no longer have the programs that our taxes supposedly paid for for all those years.
00:00:41.000I want to encourage people to get out into the streets, to become more active, to not fall for the Johnny nonsense.
00:00:48.000That is thrust upon you in the mainstream media of CNN, The Washington Post, The Washington Times, The New York Times, Fox News.
00:00:58.000They are still promoters of war and death.
00:01:00.000If you can't see that, please look at those reporters and children being gunned down, judge, jury, and executioner from the sky style by our very own troops.
00:01:11.000The people that are supposed to be defending this country from enemies.
00:01:23.000Please get my latest film, Invisible Empire, A New World Order Defined, and Police State 4. I'm in Police State 4. You can see me at the G20, really getting down and dirty with the troops that shouldn't be on the streets in the first place.
00:01:37.000None of them could even tell me what posse comitatus was.
00:01:40.000Bob, these are people that were Anywhere from 18 to 19-year-old new recruits to 45 and 50-year-old colonels and generals, they could not tell me what posse comitatus was, Bob.
00:01:52.000No, and they don't think it's necessary for them to know those things.
00:01:59.000They know military nomenclature, and that's where it begins and ends.
00:02:08.000We're here so you got a freedom of speech.
00:02:10.000And I'm like, no, you're here in violation of the emergence of police and military.
00:02:15.000When we have the police and military on the streets as the police, we live in a police state like that of China or Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany.
00:02:53.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
00:02:56.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
00:03:01.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
00:03:06.000It means all the world under their control.
00:03:08.000The United Nations would take over America.
00:03:11.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
00:03:14.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
00:03:27.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
00:03:30.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
00:05:22.000Just like the Huffington Post censored your article about 9-11, even though they asked you to write it, now you're seeing censorship in the book world.
00:06:06.000I just spoke earlier on another show, and they asked me why the mainstream media won't question the government.
00:06:14.000And I said it's simple, because if they don't play along with the government, they get no access to them.
00:06:20.000And if they're denied access to them, they're dead in the water.
00:06:24.000So therefore, they go along to get along so that they can do their jobs and continue to have access with the senators, the congressmen, the president, and all that stuff.
00:06:34.000Because if they question anything, they lose that access, which is the kiss of death.
00:12:13.000Well, his television show got picked up for a second season record.
00:12:18.000First season on TruTV, their number one news show.
00:12:21.000We're going to talk about, because I keep getting these questions and I know Jesse's wondering, with all this censorship, with all this control, not one major news book reviewer will talk about his number four on the New York Times bestseller list, American Conspiracies, four weeks in the top ten.
00:12:51.000But Governor Jesse Ventura, for those who just joined us, we started getting into Eight years of Iraq, or seven years of Iraq, eight years of Afghanistan, no end in sight, new wars, they're expanding, all this footage coming out of reporters being massacred, being targeted, children being gunned down by Apache helicopters, premeditatedly, all of that happening, and we were discussing during the break that this points out that the president isn't really the president, and doesn't have the power.
00:13:22.000I really don't think he does, and what's really educated me, Alex, is I've been reading, I've read, I'm in the process of finishing my second book by Colonel Fletcher Prouty.
00:14:12.000X, the guy that Costner goes to Washington and talks to him on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.
00:14:18.000Then they sit on that bench and he lays the whole thing out.
00:14:22.000Well, in real life, that was Colonel Leroy Fletcher Prouty, Colonel of the United States Air Force.
00:14:28.000And for, I think, 11 or 12 years, he was the top man, the liaison between the Pentagon and the CIA.
00:14:36.000And I can't tell people how much they need to read to understand.
00:14:43.000And when you read Prouty's books, you will become much more clear on what's happening.
00:14:48.000Because Prouty tells you in the books that the entire Cold War was a setup.
00:14:53.000That there was a meeting that took place at the end of World War II. Right before we were going to, we technically were going to invade Japan like Normandy.
00:15:05.000And then, of course, they dropped the two bombs and they didn't have to.
00:15:09.000But in preparing for that invasion, they moved massive armaments into Okinawa.
00:15:16.000Well, there was a meeting because Prouty flew in, Chiang Kai-shek.
00:15:21.000And it was between Chiang Kai-shek, who at that time was the head of China, Stalin, Churchill, and Roosevelt.
00:15:27.000And at that point, it was determined that all wars from then on would be fought in third world countries.
00:15:34.000That there would be no direct objective that the military could achieve in which to declare victory.
00:15:41.000Now look back, Alex, in our history since World War II. Is that not all true?
00:16:22.000Now it follows through with all of this shit, excuse me from the radio, I shouldn't have said that, but all of this stuff in Afghanistan, Iraq, and all of it fits right into what Colonel Prouty talked about.
00:16:37.000Well I'm chomping at the bit here and I want to sit back and shut up and you can tell us what you've learned, but this is what's so incredible.
00:16:42.000I've known you for about four and a half years now and the process, you knew about Gulf of Tonkin, you knew about the lives of Vietnam, you were very well informed, you've been visited by the CIA when you were governor, but it's been a process of you reading and researching and now to see you, I interviewed Prouty, had to be like in 1997, we've been digging around looking for the tapes.
00:17:06.000I've read his first book, not the second one you're talking about.
00:17:09.000And then you discover that Joe McCarthy was actually right, but he was being used to set up a police state domestically with low-level communists but as soon as he found out the pentagon was running everything remember that was what they said was so absurd then they set him up and destroyed him and use the term McCarthyism to demonize him but then it was declassified seven years ago or six years ago that the Russians said no it's true he was right and then you learn that the whole geopolitical system is a war against individual populations
00:17:39.000and there was a deal with the Russians to build up their police state they would take over half the world the US would build up its police state Well, You know, the thing is now is this, Alex, I have the time to do it now.
00:18:05.000You know, when you're being a governor or you're governing a state or you're working in that capacity, you don't have time to do any research because your day is full 24 hours a day, seven days a week, just doing your job.
00:18:19.000And now I don't have that job to do anymore.
00:18:24.000And living in Mexico, like I do for half the year, I read 15 to 17 books every winter down there.
00:18:31.000And it's amazing how reading can educate you.
00:18:34.000Something I think we're losing track of in this country.
00:18:39.000It's amazing to see your development, and I'm not like on some mountain saying that, because I've noticed your discernment with issues getting into the whole conspiracy realm.
00:18:48.000You go right to the best sources, the best documents, the best history, and it's just very exciting, Governor Ventura, to see you with a hit TV show, a best-selling book, and to really be one of the main leaders now of questioning our reality.
00:19:05.000Give people the name of the book again because I want to go buy it and read it.
00:19:08.000Fletcher Prouty, on record, the head of black ops between the Pentagon and CIA.
00:19:14.000He was sent away, you know, to the Arctic when they killed JFK.
00:19:20.000He talked about how they pulled the security off, how it was a Pentagon black ops job.
00:19:25.000We're going to play a clip from JFK coming up later, but take your time in the break with more of what you've learned and how you tie that in to all your other life knowledge.
00:19:34.000Well, again, it's a case that, you know, Fletcher Prouty just, he lived through it.
00:19:40.000And I enjoy reading what he knows about.
00:19:45.000See, the other thing he shows very clearly, which tells you how Obama isn't really in charge, Prouty shows you that most of the politicians only learn of these events until they're already in motion.
00:20:01.000They're set in motion by people in the government.
00:20:04.000You know, people in the CIA at lower, you know, not the high level positions, but in the secondary positions, they're the ones that move forward on all this stuff.
00:20:16.000The wars, all the dirty stuff that goes on.
00:20:19.000So that by the time our elected politicians are briefed on it, this thing's already halfway to life.
00:21:10.000And my whole point is, we have to come to the point as a nation to realize presidents come and go, but the secret teams run by the big Wall Street banks that set up the CIA, rule this country, and by extension, the world.
00:21:51.000And that's, you know, really, it gets to that.
00:21:56.000Then, of course, you have to question, is the voting real?
00:21:58.000Because with these electronic voting machines, they can be hacked into, so you've got to question whether your votes are actually legitimate even in this country anymore.
00:22:10.000Exactly. Let me back you up, what you just said.
00:22:14.000I sat through many hours of LBJ at his ranch outside Austin, Johnson City, a couple miles from where I sit, and McNamara, and McNamara is telling him what to do, and telling him they just staged the Gulf of Tonkin, and that this is what he's going to say at a press conference tomorrow, and Uh, the President's almost saying yes sir to him, and it's the same thing with Bay of Pigs.
00:22:36.000They launched that without Kennedy knowing, and then blamed it on him when it failed.
00:22:40.000Exactly, and you gotta understand too, it ain't McNamara.
00:23:32.000Incredible. Jesse Ventura, always wise, always informed, but just to know that he is really on the fast track to the key to planetary control, it's all staged.
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00:26:02.000A New World Order based upon collective action.
00:26:06.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
00:26:11.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
00:26:15.000It means all the world under their control.
00:26:18.000The United Nations would take over America.
00:26:20.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
00:26:23.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence We've worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
00:26:31.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
00:26:37.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
00:26:39.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
00:29:01.000Everyone out there that knows anyone in the state of California, please encourage them this fall to vote for the legalization of marijuana.
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00:30:23.000NATO rejects Russian call for Afghan poppy spraying.
00:30:27.000NATO Wednesday rejected Russian calls for it to eradicate opium poppy fields in Afghanistan, saying the best way for Moscow to help control the drug would be to give more assistance against the insurgency.
00:30:38.000Then I was listening to BBC a few months ago, and they were admitting that the U.S.
00:30:42.000protects the opium to be friends with the locals, and it's up more than 12 times what it was nine years ago, and there's opium flooding the world right now.
00:30:51.000What's your take on government drug dealing and that they're openly protecting the
00:32:22.000Governor Jesse Ventura, I have a lot of questions that I want to ask here in my list, but going out to break on this short segment, what else do you want to relay to this audience that you think is important?
00:32:31.000Well, again, just to be vigilant and pay attention and question your government at all times, because it needs to be questioned.
00:32:39.000Right now, like I said, it should be clear to everyone that Barack Obama is not in charge.
00:32:45.000I don't believe that he is now, because you see everything that he ran on, he hasn't come through on virtually anything.
00:32:53.000He's now in the opposite camp, really.
00:32:55.000And it's almost like he arrived there with this fresh, clean agenda, and it was like they took him to the woodshed and told him, well, you might be the president, but you don't run things.
00:33:28.000And then you look at Chile, Iceland, you look at Greece, you look at all these countries, first world, second world, They're all run by Goldman Sachs people.
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00:37:08.000Ladies and gentlemen, Tuesday, the 6th day of April 2010, Governor Jesse Ventura, an icon of true political independence in this country and worldwide, is our guest, and I'm really honored to have him and honored to count him as a friend.
00:37:22.000He's a great guy, he's for real, and I want to get into how Did he get his TV show on air?
00:37:27.000We talked about this last time and he marveled, but now we see the censorship of his book, no book reviews, even though it's number four on the New York Times bestseller list.
00:37:36.000We're going to talk about that in a moment, but first, Governor, I got an email from a lady saying, effective immediately, she's never listening to my radio show again because I played the gun pod footage from the Apaches killing these reporters, shooting these kids, laughing about it.
00:37:51.000And then lying about it later, all these other massacre videos.
00:38:00.000Obviously, we're not saying the individual troops are all bad, but Pat Tillman went over there, found that it was a fraud, wrote letters home.
00:38:32.000You know, we went through this in Vietnam.
00:38:34.000I would think that this country would have a little bit longer memory of the same type of affair took place in Vietnam, where you had the massacre at My Lai.
00:38:45.000You know, people, and believe me, I'm not blaming the soldiers, I'm blaming the politicians.
00:39:31.000And so war, there is nothing great and glorious about war.
00:39:36.000War is the worst thing man's ever come up with.
00:39:39.000And that's killing each other over what?
00:39:42.000Political reasons, religion, whatever stupidity we might decide to go to war and murder each other over.
00:39:50.000And so, no, you are not wrong in showing this.
00:39:54.000Because what's wrong is sheltering people from it.
00:39:58.000That's why these wars are going on, Alex, is because the American people have been sheltered.
00:40:04.000The media is not portraying what's happening over there.
00:40:07.000And they're not even showing the body bags when they come home.
00:40:12.000Well you're absolutely right, and you talked about Fletcher Prouty who ran Black Ops in the Pentagon, that's on record the liaison to the CIA, and he's documenting how they made the decision at the end of World War II to attack third world countries, to divide them, to never have an outcome, so the armaments industries could make a lot of money and get a lot of power, and then we sit here and say that's exactly what Afghanistan and Iraq are.
00:40:37.000We know this is the policy of divide and conquer.
00:40:40.000We know they're turning our country into a militarized surveillance police state, and it's our right as citizens to say that we don't want to be part of these illegal wars that George Washington said that we shouldn't be involved in foreign wars.
00:40:54.000Well, again, I guess sometimes a war is justified, you know.
00:41:00.000There are occasions, you know, where a war you've got to go fight because there may be a tyrant like Adolf Hitler out there.
00:41:09.000But ever since World War II, you cannot tell me one war that has been justified.
00:41:16.000But you talked about it being a failed policy, failed from our perspective, but if we know they're premeditated to be quagmires to make money, then it's not a failed policy.
00:41:26.000You know, they say the war on drugs is a failure.
00:41:27.000There's more drugs, more people in prison.
00:41:30.000But for the big banks and the military-industrial complex, that's a success.
00:42:19.000Yeah. Well, that's what helps create the wars.
00:42:22.000See, they were designed by Harry Truman to not set policy.
00:42:28.000They were supposedly to be there only to provide information for the president.
00:42:33.000And Alan Dulles, Proudy makes it very clear that Alan Dulles, and of course he's neck deep a member of the Warren Commission and all that on Kennedy, Alan Dulles is the one that created today's CIA.
00:42:46.000This independent, rogue, outlaw state that is uncontrollable now even by our own government.
00:42:59.000Because I have a Bloomberg report here in my stack where the federal government is telling private and public pension funds you must invest quote-unfailed banks and now they're getting ready to go after people's pension funds.
00:43:17.000Are they trying to push the American people into some type of armed revolt?
00:43:21.000I believe they're trying to destroy the middle class.
00:44:35.000Let's read this Bloomberg headline for folks that are doubting me.
00:44:38.000Failed banks may get pension fund backing as FDIC seeks cash.
00:44:41.000The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation is trying to encourage public retirement funds that control more than $2 trillion to buy all or part of failed lenders.
00:44:50.000Assets taking on a more direct role in propping up banking systems.
00:44:54.000And it talks about how the regulators are ordering them to do it.
00:44:57.000Since when do regulators order private and public pension funds to be invested in the failed banks?
00:45:03.000And since when would you with a clear conscience want to invest in a failed bank?
00:45:10.000Well, the government says, Jesse, they want to grab your 401k and give it to the bankers.
00:45:23.000Well, I know they've been setting up for it and infiltrating.
00:45:26.000I know they infiltrated these militias and set them up to create the illusion that there's about to be all this domestic terror, and I believe they're getting ready to stage terror attacks, Governor, to blame it on the American people, to use NORTHCOM against the American people.
00:45:40.000They could empower themselves into a Marshall Lab-type situation?
00:45:44.000I know they've been making preparations for two decades in earnest, starting with Oliver North, and I know I've never seen such a build-up towards it.
00:45:51.000Okay. Well, you've got a powerful voice as a political icon, an independent, a former governor.
00:46:11.000What would you say to the American people if we see some terror attacks, they're blamed on the American people, and they start trying to use these different enemy combatant acts, belligerent acts, to start grabbing US citizens?
00:46:23.000Well, you know, I think the first thing we need to do is this: I think we need to put huge pressure on the Obama administration to rescind the Patriot Act.
00:47:08.000that's what the Belligerent Act states that John McCain's introduced and Lindsey Graham's supporting.
00:47:13.000It says, for any intelligence reason or any direction of the president, citizens can be grabbed and given enhanced interrogation and never be seen again.
00:47:49.000Well, then let me say this on your show, Alex.
00:47:53.000I will never disappear by my own choice.
00:47:57.000point. So I've said it now on your show, so everybody knows that if Jesse Ventura suddenly disappears, they'll know that I wouldn't do that, other than to go surfing in Mexico, and you know that I'll come back every spring.
00:48:15.000Well, I tell you, that brings me to the next question.
00:48:17.000I mean, as things heat up, as you become even more prominent, if that's possible, but you are, and as people's respect for you goes even higher, we need to take good care of you.
00:48:27.000So watch out there aren't some frogmen out there when you're surfing that try to make you disappear.
00:49:52.000You've got to get rid of all of them groups, because there's actually more mercenaries in Iraq today than there are soldiers.
00:49:59.000Well, I've talked to Anthony Schaefer, Special Forces Colonel Commander, and he talked about how the CIA wouldn't let him kill bin Laden two weeks before 9-11.
00:50:08.000And he said that was being done because they already had contractors in the CIA with more power than the Army and the Navy, and that they basically are above the law and can do whatever they want.
00:50:18.000Well, in Crowdy's book you'll find out the CIA runs our military.
00:50:24.000Our military is used to back up whatever the CIA is getting involved with.
00:50:29.000Well, that's what Colonel Schaefer says, yeah.
00:50:36.000Well, he might be good to interview, Anthony Schaeffer.
00:50:39.000He's on Fox and MSNBC and CNN, all of them.
00:50:42.000Let me read this to you, just so it's on record.
00:50:44.000In fact, here's the bill, right here, racing through the Senate right now.
00:50:47.000The sinners to be detained as enemy belligerents.
00:54:31.000When you go in and attempt, just because a country has a different form of government than you have, what gives us the right to go into that country and attempt to assassinate their leader?
00:54:44.000Well, if they tried it here, they'd be called terrorists.
00:54:59.000I want to encourage all the listeners to not procrastinate and get Jesse Ventura's American Conspiracies at Infowars.com.
00:55:06.000You can get the book, $5 off the book and hardcover, and then get The film of your choice with the book when you get it.
00:55:13.000That's how much I want you to read it info wars.com Governor we've only got about 10 minutes left with your nine minutes left, and there's so many other things I wanted to talk about with you Shifting gears into something just as serious because you are informing millions of people every week Your television show when is it going to be back on the airwaves?
00:57:17.000And, again, we're just paring them down now.
00:57:19.000We'll probably see what happens is this.
00:57:22.000True TV will start off and they'll approve like two or three of them.
00:57:26.000So we'll go ahead and begin working on them.
00:57:29.000Then in the process of working on them, other approvings.
00:57:32.000Yeah. Well, you guys aren't half-assing this either.
00:57:49.000You do a lot of research, a lot of work, a lot goes into this television show.
00:57:53.000Well, I'll tell you, for our little purse-string budget that we're on, we do a hell of a job.
00:58:02.000Because, you know what I actually did in negotiations this year?
00:58:07.000What? I was already locked in for the second season, so I couldn't negotiate money at all, but I could negotiate artistically.
00:58:15.000I told my top agent at William Morris, I said, "Look, I want it in writing that this year we'll actually get a set of clappers for when we're out on the streets." You know what clappers are now, right?
00:58:31.000Well, there are those little boards you see in Hollywood where you put it in front of the camera, what scene it is, blah, blah, blah, and then they clap, and that's the way you can separate all your shoots.
00:58:42.000Well, we were so cheap in doing this thing, initially, we had to use our hands.
00:58:50.000And so I told them, I said, look, the only thing I demand is that I want it in writing that we will have a clapper sent to all shoots.
00:58:58.000And it was funny because my top agent at William Morris started laughing and he said, Governor, I can assure you, I'll take it out of our end.
00:59:23.000I can't even venture a guess right now because, again, it'll depend on how many of them they want done and in the can and at what point are we at to finish up whatever is left before they – because once they make the decision to start airing them, I've got a feeling they're going to want to have the majority of them done so that they can air them weekly like they did.
00:59:45.000last time, where 10 weeks in a row you will get a different conspiracy every week.
00:59:51.000So, venturing, and again, I'm just spitballing here, venturing a guess, I would say the soonest we'll be on will be sometime in the fall.
01:00:00.000Well, I look forward to seeing you again in person.
01:00:02.000You're so great, and so is your son and the whole crew.
01:00:05.000The book is American Conspiracies, available at InfoWars.com and everywhere else, but we have it discounted with a free film at InfoWars.com or by calling 888-253-3139.
01:00:17.000Governor Ventura, in closing, we got about three minutes left here.
01:00:21.000Studying the New World Order, studying the global elite, studying these shadowy organizations, Well, I still don't know exactly who is.
01:00:38.000You know, if you're asking me to name names, I can't do that.
01:00:44.000Well, to me, the agenda is simple, and it seems clear to me.
01:00:48.000Ever since 9-11, it's been an agenda to take away our freedoms.
01:00:52.000Slavery. You can leave it right at that.
01:00:56.000Slavery. The most dangerous thing I've seen that have come out of all of this crap in the last 10 years is the fact that they've suspended habeas corpus.
01:01:04.000They've literally shredded the Fourth Amendment of illegal search and seizure.
01:01:09.000Every person in America needs to understand that every phone call you make and every email you send, the government has the capability to be eavesdropping that.
01:01:19.000Now, are they doing it to all of them?
01:01:53.000The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and Betsy Ross'flag.
01:01:58.000And so it doesn't surprise me that they want to eradicate marijuana because they're eradicating our Constitution, they're eradicating our Bill of Rights, and they've certainly eradicated the flag, in my opinion.
01:02:11.000Governor, I'm going to say bye to you as soon as the show ends here in about 30 seconds, but I really want to thank you for coming on.
01:02:16.000Congratulations for doing it your way, telling the truth, not compromising, getting a number one hit TV show on your network, number four on the New York Times bestseller list for the book, and people are waking up, and we've got a good chance of bringing down this new world order, and thank God we've got you on our team.
01:04:12.000He's Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
01:04:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:04:22.000Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former editor of the Wall Street Journal, the father of Reaganomics, the head of Policy Department of Treasury under Reagan, best-selling author, syndicated columnist about a week and a half ago, wrote this article goodbye truth has fallen and taken liberty with it and he said he'll do a few more interviews in fact he wants to come on tax day to talk about the slavery on the 15th but then he's disengaging and fading off into the sunset and we're honored to have him here with us today to talk about a host of issues in fact he's got a list
01:04:52.000of things he wants to talk about and why he is saying sayonara And then we're going to get into Volcker, carbon tax, VAT should be on the table, on top of the income tax.
01:05:03.000We'll be discussing that with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
01:05:15.000It says, remind Alex that he wants to ask me about 9-11, Murrah office bombing, Waco, Operation Northwoods, JFK, and we'll talk about the economy.
01:05:26.000Well, Alex, you'd wanted me to explain why I was stopping Colum, and basically a bunch of things just came together.
01:05:40.000I've been trying to save the country all my life.
01:05:43.000main thing is, though, I think I came to the conclusion that it's futile to about what's happening, to write about the wars and the police state, the lack of our civil liberties, as long as the event that set those in motion itself can't be analyzed.
01:06:10.000And, of course, we're talking about 9-11.
01:06:13.000So it dawned on me sites, of which I was sort of a favorite columnist, like Antiwar.com, Counterpunch, where I have the big following, neither site, for example, would let me
01:06:43.000the evidence that the scientists who to have found nanothermite in the residue of the World Trade Center, that they wouldn't even let me report that there were 1,000 architects and engineers who had sent a petition to Congress demanding an investigation.
01:07:10.000And so it made me realize that here were sites totally to the war, totally opposed to the police state and the loss of our civil liberties, sites who don't believe a word the government says about anything except 9-11.
01:07:27.000I got to thinking, well, what is the point of this?
01:07:32.000How can you oppose the government when you give it the grounds on which it's acting?
01:07:41.000So I came to the conclusion that since 9-11, since it cannot be discussed, except, you know, in a few places like your site, since people believe that they were attacked by Muslims and that we have to have police state powers to protect us from more attacks, that really nothing can be done.
01:08:07.000And so I said it's futile and pointless.
01:08:12.000And then about that time I saw the latest poll that 59% of the Marine people, that's three-fifths of the population, are to go to war with Iran if they don't stop their peaceful nuclear program. And I got to thinking, well, how can people come to this conclusion?
01:08:39.000They've been lied to about weapons of mass destruction, Al-K, everything.
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01:11:03.000A new world order based upon collective action.
01:11:06.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
01:11:11.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
01:11:16.000It means all the world under their control.
01:11:18.000The United Nations would take over America.
01:11:21.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
01:11:24.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
01:11:32.000I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
01:11:37.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
01:11:40.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
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01:11:56.000PrisonPlanet.tv He's the t-rex of political talk Alex Jones on the GCN radio network Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is with us if you just join us for the rest of the hour He's gonna do this interview and then one on tax day with us and then bow out perhaps forever.
01:12:20.000He's not writing his column Anymore, he's been writing two a week for a very long time Yeah, you know, it's an unbelievable story.
01:12:45.000In fact, you know, if you just look, anybody that looks at the World Trade Center towers And anybody that looks at it for 15 seconds should be able to see the difference between a building that's falling down and one that's blowing up.
01:13:07.000And so Americans can't even use their own eyes.
01:13:12.000And then we have this fantasy figure, Sheikh Mohammed.
01:13:15.000Now, you know, they said that bin Laden was responsible, but now it's Sheikh Mohammed, the guy they waterboarded 183 times until he finally confessed to being the mastermind of 9-11.
01:13:31.000And if you look at this, it makes no sense, because at this guy's feet.
01:15:46.000It was an official plot by the United States military and various black ops groups in the government to gun down American citizens in Miami, in Washington, D.C., blow up boats of Cuban
01:16:08.000to fabricate crashed airliners, and to blame it all on Castro so they could invade Cuba.
01:16:18.000This is a known thing that we were prepared to do.
01:16:23.000And this was, you know, like 60 or more years.
01:16:26.000This was, what, 40, 50 years ago when we allegedly were still somewhat of a freedom and democracy country.
01:16:37.000And they were willing to do that then.
01:16:39.000And Kennedy, of course, fired Limitzer.
01:16:42.000And a lot of people believe that's why Kennedy was assassinated.
01:16:47.000And then we have this very curious Murrow Office Building bombing, the Oklahoma City bombing, that was pinned on McVeigh with this truck bomb. Well, General Parton, who was head of Air Force Munitions, spent his life developing testing explosives for the Air Force.
01:17:13.000He put out a very thick report in which he said that that building blown up from the inside out.
01:17:22.000And it most certainly was not blown up by a truck bomb.
01:17:26.000The truck bomb of that sort, 60 feet away, couldn't possibly have done the damage and produced the explosions and the structural damage to those reinforced concrete columns.
01:17:43.000So here was a real expert who put it on the line.
01:18:01.000So what you have is a situation where it's impossible for experts even to bring facts, not just to the public's attention, but to the attention of people in government who are supposed to be overseeing the government, such as the various congressional committees.
01:18:22.000So when you have that type of a situation, you know, what has become of truth?
01:18:50.000The most absurd explanations and fantasies they accept as if they were actually real, and yet they're completely deaf to experts, to facts, and so you can't help them.
01:19:06.000And so that's really the main reason I quit during the column.
01:19:11.000I just came to the conclusion it was futile, and the people are just so gullible.
01:19:18.000Well, Doctor, let me throw something in here, but I mean, we don't need to lose all hope.
01:19:23.000It did take time to expose Oklahoma City.
01:19:26.000Columns further back were blown off with blast points.
01:19:30.000Then columns right up beside the truck, bomb that weren't even damaged.
01:19:54.000Going back to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, backing you up there, he confessed to bombing buildings that weren't built till four years after he was incarcerated, and even the 100-plus water boardings wouldn't make him lie and say he ran 9-11.
01:20:09.000So then they threatened to do stuff to his family, and that's mainstream news.
01:20:12.000So finally, for his children, He confessed to it, but but it's a process and it was 5% Won the Revolutionary War or less and just because they do have a large portion of the public like Congressman Johnson from Georgia who believes that islands float and that they're gonna capsize if there's too many people on them That's I mean, you know a lot of dumbed-down people out there even in government It doesn't matter because your work and others work Uh, is really woken a lot of people up and I see a giant awakening happening.
01:20:42.000I don't blame you for quitting a twice a week, uh, twice a week, uh, column, but I think that you've got a fighting spirit.
01:20:49.000You should take some time off, but I believe that you're going to be back and that you're not going to be able to control yourself, even though you're 71 years old, because you have liberty and love of the truth beating in your breast.
01:21:02.000We know things will be much worse if we weren't here speaking out today.
01:21:06.000So I want to commend you for all your work, and I'm sorry that you were getting censored, but we'll continue going through the points you wanted to make.
01:22:12.000Polls could actually never even occur.
01:22:15.000I mean, I could see that the CIA or some government agency, the Pentagon, goes to polls and say, here's a bunch of money, give us this result.
01:22:49.000They've got no way of doing anything about it.
01:22:51.000The government doesn't represent them, doesn't listen to them.
01:22:57.000In every sense, they've become irrelevant.
01:22:59.000The government represents the powerful moneyed interest groups that finance the political campaigns.
01:23:08.000And so the people are really, even if we had them all, educated and aware which I don't think we short of arming themselves and rebellion no way they can impact or influence the government because paying attention to them could care less about the people I don't know what they think.
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01:28:10.000We're gonna win this thing, ladies and gentlemen.
01:28:13.000Thanks to the work of people like Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
01:28:15.000The fundamental situation we face is a decadent, entertainment-drunk, ... culture who don't see themselves in the role of being informed or involved.
01:28:26.000Our numbers are much greater than many know, because I'm here every day, I see the numbers.
01:28:49.000And... That's what we attempt to do here each and every day, but they say there's a sign as you enter hell, all those that enter here give up hope.
01:28:57.000Well, we haven't reached hell yet, but we have Dr. Roberts being censored in his Yeah.
01:29:36.000And, look, think about the, we covered, you know, the, you know, the McVeigh, Oklahoma City bombing, 9-11, Operation Northwards, but just think about the Kennedy assassination.
01:29:50.000I think when the black ops groups got away with that, that's what kind of sealed our fate.
01:29:55.000And the liberals, let them get away with it.
01:30:00.000of Kennedy, you see, The liberals had overcome the Eisenhower Republicans and were now going to use the government to do great things.
01:30:13.000They were going to use the government to do great things for the American people and remake society and make it more fair and just and all of this.
01:30:20.000So they couldn't possibly let it out that the government had killed the President.
01:30:28.000So they concocted another fantasy story about how Oswald, with a worthless rifle, shot Kennedy from behind and killed him with a magic bullet that also wounded Connolly and did all kinds of improbable things.
01:30:47.000And yet all the evidence is that Kennedy was hit from the right front temple, out the back of his head.
01:30:56.000You can see that in the films that tourists took.
01:30:59.000And you can see Jackie, his wife, crawling out on the trunk of the limo to recover the back part of his skull that you've just seen blown out from the front.
01:31:08.000You know, the bullet hitting the front, blowing it out.
01:31:14.000And then they get this patch of Oswald, and before he can ever be questioned, Ruby is somehow with a gun inside a jail where he doesn't belong.
01:31:25.000He has no right to be inside the jail, much less with a gun.
01:31:31.000And yet people still fall for the Warren report, which has been disproved over and over and over and over by expert after expert after expert.
01:31:46.000And yet we still have this sort of mythology of Oswald killed Kennedy.
01:31:55.000And then even after all the evidence finally forced the Congressional Committee to look at it again, And you had all these witnesses who saw a gunman at the Grassy Knoll shoot.
01:32:41.000And you're talking about the 79 report where they said a 98% chance that it was a conspiracy.
01:32:49.000Well, you know, they kind of, the conspiracy sort of, well maybe I don't remember it exactly right, but I thought the conspiracy kind of disappeared by the final conclusion that it was a second balloon.
01:35:04.000A new world order based upon collective action.
01:35:07.000Invisible Empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.
01:35:12.000The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
01:35:17.000It means all the world under their control.
01:35:19.000The United Nations would take over America.
01:35:22.000The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
01:35:25.000Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.
01:35:33.000I believe first of all That we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
01:35:38.000Global governance with the establishment of the G20.
01:35:41.000So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
01:36:50.000Remember, in a real crisis, Non-hybrid seeds are the ultimate barter item.
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01:37:04.000In our trailer for Invisible Empire, trailer 2, up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, we have a clip of Obama a few months ago at the UN, and he said, no new world order can have one nation above another.
01:37:19.000And people thought, oh, that means Have equality?
01:37:21.000No, that means lower all of us to third world standing.
01:37:24.000And that's what Bill Gates, Ted Turner, the U.N. This is the ultra-rich mafia, basically, coming in and taking over society through environmental taxes, through all of it.
01:37:35.000And we have the father of Reaganomics.
01:37:37.000We have a gentleman listed by Forbes, many other publications, as one of the top ten living economists.
01:37:43.000And I was talking to him about Kennedy cutting taxes between 50 and 30% depending on which tax it was, and he said basically that's correct, and more money came in.
01:37:53.000You cut taxes, the economy starts racing, but it's the free market, Main Street economy.
01:37:59.000And the big central banks don't want that.
01:38:01.000They want a controlled, vertically integrated economy, and they want to impoverish people.
01:38:06.000It's the third world rule, where you have more billionaires in Mexico than we have here in the US, but one of the poorest populations in the world.
01:38:13.000So I want to encourage everyone to understand what's happening, and it's all covered in the new film that premieres in just, what, about six, seven days on the 15th at PrisonPlanet.tv.
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01:39:12.000All right, going back to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, we've been having very interesting discussions behind the scenes.
01:39:15.000I want to get into the economy, but first going back to violent revolution.
01:39:19.000They've now framed it that even if you defend yourself when CPS without due process is snatching your kid, DynCorp runs many of the systems in the states, convicted white slavery traffickers, that's Chicago Tribune AP.
01:39:31.000if you resist them taking your farm, you're a terrorist.
01:41:05.000They still think the government is there to protect them in some way.
01:41:10.000I get a lot of emails from people who are already suffering these types of intrusions.
01:41:18.000They've read my book about how the law has been destroyed, and they wonder what they can do.
01:41:24.000Of course, they haven't got any rights, so they can't do anything.
01:41:29.000So, you know, I don't know how much of it is a plan with a direct goal in mind or how much of it is just the police agencies grabbing power.
01:41:43.000And, of course, it doesn't much matter because under either system, we've lost rights. And it's very hard for people, even if they're organized and have weapons, to because the kinds of weapons the Police and military have.
01:42:05.000I mean, you know, they have military weapons.
01:42:08.000And so the kinds of weapons people have are feeble.
01:42:11.000And now under NORTHCOM, we have the military everywhere conditioning the public at DWI checkpoints, at the Kentucky Derby, at football games, searching children, running checkpoints on the highways.
01:42:23.000Right. An armed camp drilling and training to go after us.
01:42:27.000Right. I want to cover one other issue before we get into the economy, Dr.
01:42:32.000Have you seen the gun camera footage from three years ago in Iraq that WikiLeaks released a few days ago?
01:42:38.000They said they've got scores of these videos they're going to be releasing where they are killing the people and shooting the kids in the minivan trying to get a wounded reporter off the street and then secondarily I get these emails, it's a minority of the emails, saying, how dare you criticize our troops?
01:42:57.000Well, yeah, this is a war that was built on lies and WMDs.
01:43:00.000We go invade the country, we kill over a million of them, and then there's this droning, brainwashed message that we've got to support the troops by keeping them in 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 tours and treating them like garbage when they get back.
01:43:15.000And it's just this mindless supposed patriotism To worship tyranny.
01:43:20.000It's very reminiscent of what happened to Nazi Germany.
01:44:33.000But that very system is destroying their future as well.
01:44:36.000And as you know, as someone who's researched history, once you get into one big lie, then it's a bigger lie, a bigger lie, and then things accelerate at the end.
01:44:45.000And do you agree that we're now reaching that acceleration point where all of this preparatory slide into tyranny and corruption has seemed fast?
01:44:56.000And if you look at the complicity of the federal courts, even the Supreme Court, I mean, how quiet they've been and tolerant of this.
01:45:04.000And the law schools and the law deans and the bar associations, the law firms, wherever you look, it's just acceptance.
01:45:13.000There's essentially acceptance of this.
01:45:18.000You would have thought that all the prestigious law schools would be on their high horse, the bar associations.
01:45:25.000People would be screaming, what are you doing?
01:45:27.000You can't destroy civil liberties on the basis of a hoax.
01:45:31.000But that's exactly what's happening, and people are accepting it.
01:45:35.000And they just try to find some way to make money out of it, you know?
01:45:40.000Well, the point I make is, all these people that dehumanize Iraqis, or Afghans, or others, or the Serbs, or the South Ossetians, they have to understand that 100% of the time in history, when you get sucked in by an imperial spirit of evil, and it's like a team spirit, once you do that, it's always visited on you.
01:46:28.000I mean, this is one of the key things in the Nazi history, that the brown shirts that marched through the streets for Hitler and, you know, attacked all the Jews, Kristallnacht, all of that stuff, all of this violent crowd.
01:46:43.000The first thing Hitler did was eliminate them.
01:47:27.000And then, of course, the police have to prove that they're on the government side, and the way you do that, you're always producing new terrorists or new enemies of the people.
01:47:37.000Or, you know, the KGB under Stalin, they used to have a lot of people who were in the You're And not just for parking tickets or speeding, but to just arrest people.
01:48:00.000And federal marshals have come out and said they're meant to put people on terror list for no reason in the airports, and that there are quotas to create the perception that there are all these criminals.
01:48:27.000people bullies, people who want power, they see opportunities to get it, and they grab it.
01:48:33.000Well, I agree with you, doctor, but there's a National Law Enforcement Think Tank Council, and Arne Saavedra takes blood without warrants, total police state, shuts down gun shows without any law, just thuggishly just does it under Fed control, and it turns out he was picked by the Feds from California, brought here, and is now the frontrunner for Dallas, and this secretive National Council is telling Dallas to hire him, and then if they do, federal funds come in.
01:48:59.000Yeah. Well, I'm not in the least surprised.
01:49:03.000We're running out of time for the economy.
01:49:32.000And if the dollar cracks, their power goes with it.
01:49:37.000I mean, what would stop the American empire and its tracks would be the failure of the dollar as reserve currency, because what American power is based on.
01:49:51.000It's based on the dollar as reserve currency.
01:49:54.000So their bank bailouts and their wars have produced such massive deficits that they cannot be financed by world savings.
01:50:04.000And so, I mean, even if the other countries were still willing to buy the treasury bonds, there's just not enough world savings to finance the United States government's deficit.
01:50:17.000So they have the dollar in danger and their power is in danger, so they've got to find some new tax revenues.
01:50:24.000And so that's what the value added tax is about because it's like a sales tax.
01:50:29.000You can't avoid it except by not purchasing.
01:50:34.000And if you don't buy anything, then you don't have to pay that tax.
01:50:40.000Now, the carbon tax, in my opinion, is just another charade that the corporations came up with because it lets them buy and sell the right to pollute.
01:50:54.000So they can turn environmental damaging action pollution into a profit-making venture.
01:52:58.000And so this is probably first time in history where a government has intentionally destroyed its own population.
01:53:11.000The economic prospects of American people are being destroyed by the government that they elect.
01:53:20.000They think represents them and has their best interest at heart.
01:53:25.000So this is a phenomenal development as well.
01:53:31.000It's just as extraordinary as the criminal actions of the government in a terrorist event that then let it launch wars against the rest of the world.
01:53:50.000They have a term for it, command destruction, and it vertically integrates the economy, accelerates the power of the super-rich, but destroys the engine of wealth development.
01:54:02.000But when you look at Maurice Strong in 1992, and you look at what all these other environmentalists have said, and you look at the head of NASA Climatology, he says, it is our job, this is a credo, a maxim, to destroy the industrial society.
01:54:37.000I'll see if I can twist your arm for another five, because I realize this is one of our last interviews with you, at least for a long time.
01:54:42.000You said you wanted to come on on Tax Day.
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01:58:17.000It tells how the offshoring of jobs, for example, has prevented the growth of middle-class jobs for over a decade and has suppressed the growth of American incomes and made the economy totally dependent on debt expansion, which has now, of course, ruined everyone because they can't pay their debts that lives in their homes.
01:58:42.000And it also then discusses the whole hoax of free trade, the free trade cloak for offshoring.
02:00:05.000You know, you approach it various ways.
02:00:07.000the New World Order and the planned world government and so forth, but there's no indication whatsoever that Russia China is on this path and would go along with it.
02:00:19.000And so the question is, what does the United States government do about Russia and China?
02:00:31.000obstacles to American domination of the world.
02:00:35.000And now Russia is relatively weak, but it has an unlimited number of nuclear missiles that can blow us up many times over.
02:00:44.000And, of course, the Chinese economy now is, in terms of industry, manufacturing, it greatly surpasses the United States economy.
02:00:56.000I mean, there's steel production, for example.
02:00:59.000There's many times ours, there's heavy equipment, there's manufacturing, advanced technology.
02:01:06.000We're a second-rate economy compared to Chinese industry and manufacturing.